world-development

[full sluice]

I added this Video Player in my World But I can't click on the Buttons. How do I fix this?

[crimson trench]

How do you make a pickup

[solemn barn]

Is it frowned upon to publish in-progress worlds? The community seems pretty open ended within the regular vrchat content rules so I figured it would be fine.

[dusk sapphire]

There is nothing stopping you from uploading a world that is nothing but a plane and a sky box. However, keep in mind that when you publish a world it goes to community labs first, and first impression is a significant factor in graduating from labs to a public world quickly.

[solemn barn]

Thanks for the heads up. I've got a simple project going and I wanted to find out if it was worth uploading iterations for feedback so that's very helpful info.

[cobalt smelt]

Would anyone be able to point me towards assets or guides to make animated textures which are compatible with VRChat? My guess would be that I need to convert the animation frames into one, long texture and then make a shader that offsets the texture sampling based on time, but at the same time, it seems like there should be a more efficient method than doing all that from scratch.

[unkempt turtle]

sell, basically you got your object, add a box collider on the object and add the vrc pickup component. if you want it to be synced globally, add a empty udon behaviour and tick the sync position checkbox

[mild spade]

they changed the way you sync object´s transform in udon. You can now add an Object Sync component like the old sdk since the udon behaviour doesnt have that checkmark anymore

[unkempt turtle]

oh? i remember it that way from my last bigger project, guess because it was pre-sync update 🤷

[crimson trench]

So my world just says "open to friends"

[copper cobalt]

Can someone help me? Very simple objective, when the player touches the Collider / RigiddyBody of this object he will be teleported to the place where the Transform of this Empty is. But when colliding, nothing happens.

[mild spade]

There is a special event node for when the player enters a collider. It is called OnPlayerTriggerEnter (you will need to check the "isTrigger" on the collider for this to work) You will also need to make a branch so that only the local player gets teleported and not every player that sees the event.

[copper cobalt]

I will try! Thank you very much!

[bold ibex]

Is there a way to make HTTP calls in sdk3 worlds

[coral magnet]

Try video players. I used them in a prefab to do analytics

[warm bear]

Is there a simpler way to make rpg dialogues in unity for npc's in worlds?

[kind leaf]

was about to say enums until u changed it 😛 Ied use an array with a tacky long if else tree

[warm bear]

well its not just npc, but like can appear randomly too, i'll check this led

not sure where to find led

[kind leaf]

I'ed* I would use an array with an if else tree

[kind leaf]

that was a neat prefab, it's just binary though right? sending info on if the object is on/off. Do you know how to send displayNames and variables values using the videoplayer?

[coral magnet]

That's not possible

All URLs must be in the build, you can't make your own at runtime. Unless the user types it into an input field

[kind leaf]

yeah I didnt see your fax output, just read the readme and checked the scripts out. That makes sense. Would need 1 url per player and they would end up being indistinguishable without the ability to know who is who on the google doc.

the idea was to use the method as an online leaderboard as it is possible to use it as a score tracker. but without variable its impossible to keep it organized.

[coral magnet]

I use the preabs for seeing how many players read the tutorial, fall off the worlds... Even have a small survey with upvote and downvote buttons

Squat Racing also alerts me if someone beats the world record

[kind leaf]

trigger up, if player passes the trigger in < record time, toggle off? yeah. I was going to use it for binary scoring, was just hoping it had more flex. It is an incredible setup though.

[bold ibex]

That only works if unsafe URLs are enabled right?

[coral magnet]

Yes. Though I show a notification to players if the setting is off

[static rose]

My world shows up as released Private. but its not under "Mine" in game how can i go to it?

[kind leaf]

does it show up on the website under the worlds tab?

[static rose]

No

it shows up here tho

in the sdk

[kind leaf]

post the world id please

[static rose]

wrld_b4778901-0566-4fcf-92f0-f010efad1e96

[kind leaf]

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_b4778901-0566-4fcf-92f0-f010efad1e96 its there, for pc only

[static rose]

why couldnt i find it?

[dusk sapphire]

you uploaded with 2019.4.32f1

you need 2019.4.31f1

[static rose]

As i was off by 1 version number.

[kind leaf]

yeah, tried to join ^ its broken as Temp is pointing out

[static rose]

So im new to this

is there a fast easy way to port it to 31

[kind leaf]

install the correct version and use the version dropdown beside your world in the hub to downgrade and pray. Make a backup first. https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version should read the startup docs 🙂

[sudden lily]

Okay, I need a sanity check; If I've turned off literally everything in a scene they shouldn't still count towards the world size, right? I've pared my world back to literally just a plane to try and hunt down an errant file size increase from 160mb to 200-ish but that damn number sure isn't budging.

[kind leaf]

disabled items are loaded into the scene just disabled. If you want them not to count you have to delete them from the scene

[sudden lily]

Ahh, cheers.

[kind leaf]

also, just reduce your texture scale(resolution) the difference between 2/4k and 1 k is huge and not too bad on resulution.

[dusk sapphire]

go grab vrworldtoolkit which can show you a breakdown of asset sizes https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit

[sudden lily]

Oh I already do all that, Kev.

[dusk sapphire]

also if you want to test, don't delete items from the scene, just set them as editor only, it'll be easier to undo

[static rose]

okay

so i downgraded and reuploaded

and i think it still doesnt work

See its downgraded and it still uploaded as 32

[static rose]

anyone

wrld_323c9fb2-77d5-46ee-8e2d-ac12c7d6a27b

thats the world ID

[fossil hull]

I'm facing an odd issue where an object doesn't get rendered in vrchat (does work in editor/play mode). I can't explain to myself why. The setup is pretty simple:

I know that it should work, because the collider (identical mesh as a child) does block me from moving. It's just the rendering. I have another setup like this that does get rendered. Just this one doesn't for some reason. The settings in the inspector are identical (except for mesh references of course).

If anyone has ideas why this might be happening, do tell me.

[static rose]

my world just loads says go then goes black and kicks you back to orginal home

anyone
wrld_323c9fb2-77d5-46ee-8e2d-ac12c7d6a27b

[thorny zodiac]

DOes anyone know how to like have ur world in private?

using SDK 2

[bold ibex]

I dont understand your question

you would make an invite only instsnce ingame for any world if you want it to be private

if you want your world you upload to be private to you, just upload it but dont ever put it to community labs

[thorny zodiac]

talking about having ur world in private meaning no one cant go in world and say like everyone else world when they have it private

ok

[bold ibex]

?

turn your status ingame to orange or red

[thorny zodiac]

ya i know the world i want to have private is one my first build i did months back i didnt finish so i need it to have it close

months

no i need world only private but i dunno where to take it off public

[static rose]

do you know what would cause my problem?

[stone marsh]

You can set your world to private again on the website or by reuploading it.

Clicking on your world in the world's tab on the website will give you am option in the top right to set it to private

This will remove it from labs/public access

You will have to re submit it to labs when you want it to be public again

[thorny zodiac]

i had that issue with world i have when i had this bug that doesnt show on my unity ver and the name on my world just be blink so do that fiixing just have to remove pipline and then try to upload it

Ok MERC

problem is i hope it doesnt go in to lab when its been all ready compete from labs

[stone marsh]

If you make it private. It will go through labs again to be public

[fossil hull]

That's interesting. I don't see those options in the sdk 🤔

[stone marsh]

You have to submit to labs each time you make a world public

[stone marsh]

I was talking about the website wtf?

In the sdk it's only available during upload

[fossil hull]

I meant to say, it should be in the sdk without uploading it, just like avatar options.

[thorny zodiac]

i remember use show it for sdk 2

but im guessing got taken down one point

it was under the world and there another folder for it with it that

but dont see it anymore in there

unless only for sdk 3

[stone marsh]

That doesn't make any sense I'm sorry

[thorny zodiac]

there was another thing next to where vrc world

give me min let me upload something and take pic of folder

[stone marsh]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Been uploading content for like 4 years

Regardless. I mentioned the two options u have to set a world to private.

They've been the same two options for years

Basically as long as the labs system has existed that's how it's been done xP

[fossil hull]

I fixed it by recreating my mesh in probuilder. Same inspector settings, same setup, this time it does work.

I was previously reusing a collider to make a mesh, but although I removed all scripts and colliders it was still not rendering it. So my guess is that probuilder does some weird stuff in the background when you set a mesh as collider.

[thorny zodiac]

oh reminds me

anyone know how to even do collider for bed

or table

because keep failing that

[static rose]

just make it a convex collision or mesh

[stone marsh]

Add a mesh collider. That alone should be sufficient

Using a box collider would be best. But you'd need to position it so it's just the bed portion or table top assuming they are rectangular

[thorny zodiac]

ok

there use to be another thing before update it so u can put it in private or public before u upload it. Gives u two screen that was annoying at the time

[analog wyvern]

How do u make complicated/curving box colliders? i have a spiral staircase that might be tricky to make work/collidable

[stone marsh]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-MeshCollider.html

Use a mesh collider

[analog wyvern]

its all glitchy and triangular tho

I dont think id be able to use it

guess ill manually try to make box colliders for it

[stone marsh]

Glitchy and Triangular? you can't really see the collider so Idk what you mean

Like the stair case itself is glitchy and triangular? because it shouldn't matter. It just takes the mesh and creates a collider using the mesh.

You should not be checking the box "convex"

[analog wyvern]

ah ok that must be what was wrong, thanks

ill test it out later

[stone marsh]

yea, Convex will make a collider around the mesh limiting it to 255 tris. It's meant to reduce collision checks for high poly items, as well as allow collision with other mesh colliders, you don't need either of those for a spiral staircase.

Just know however, it has to be tall enough to fit the player capsule while walking up said stairs

[hollow raptor]

anyone know why my scene view looks like this. when i press play everything looks fine

same stage in play mode

[bold ibex]

Is there a easy/quick way to add faces on the back when using probuilder? Otherwise the small visible outside bit looks a bit questionable

[near escarp]

If you don't plan to texture them differently than the interior, then you can just disable backface culling the shader you'll use

[bold ibex]

And if I'd want to texture them differently? The quickest thing that came to mind was just clone and flip

[near escarp]

Yep that'd do it

[bold ibex]

cool

[sour pumice]

Anyone know what I may have missed here where when at a distance, the clear windows behind show though but when close, does not?

[analog wyvern]

whats the recommended resolution for skybox images on quest? I want to look decent if possible

[worldly hull]

Can someone help me with my world? I uploaded it onto community labs and was able to see it in the world browser. But when I joined the world, I got sent to the VRC Home world instead.

It worked fine when i was testing it before

[kind leaf]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit
check world debugger
possible spawn missing or collider under spawn
And don't upload to labs until your private upload is perfect to avoid the rush for a fix.

[full sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361741445352259584/912539870147248168/VRChat_1920x1080_2021-11-23_16-05-50.437.png

I added this Video Player in my World But I can't click on the Buttons. How do I fix this?

[stone marsh]

That is a super old player. Are you using UDON?

[full sluice]

I don't know

Is there a better video player?

[stone marsh]

If you're using UDON then yes, there are. If for some reason you're making a new world using SDK2 (you really shouldn't be) then no, not really, nobody actively develops SDK2 video players anymore.

This is probably the best free video player right now that's actively developed. There are a few others as well. But it requires you use UDON and will not work if you're using SDK2. https://booth.pm/en/items/2536209

[full sluice]

How do I know what SDK I am using?

[stone marsh]

check the name of the SDK you downloaded. Will say SDK3 or SDk2 at the start of the file name. Also, SDK3 will have the UDON folder in your assets folder among other things that are obvious.

[full sluice]

Ok I have SDK3

[stone marsh]

Then def try using the player I linked. He has a discord just for his assets too linked in the description

[crystal hazel]

This is likely an overwhelmingly simple question, but one that has been at the back of my mind for awhile. Do areas of a world that are set to be toggled off when not in use have a significant hit on overall performance? Assuming the two areas use a lot of similar textures / models that are batched.

[stone marsh]

If you're turning off the gameobjects themselves so that UDON behaviors can't run, then the overhead should be fairly minimal. If you're using occlusion culling, Far clip, or LOD to cull, then you're scripts will still be running as those only cull meshes.

[full sluice]

How do I use it?

[stone marsh]

by joining his discord linked in the description if you have questions/issues

It's just a prefab tho. Drag/drop into scene and place where u want

[crystal hazel]

Noted! That answers my question. Thank you so much!

[full sluice]

Why Can't I build and test my world????

[stone marsh]

If you're having issues with that asset, you might want to join his discord and get directed support.

speaking generally however, odds are you have a script error. Your console will show you all your errors. Only the red stop sign errors matter.

[full sluice]

Welp Restarting it made it worst since now I can't get my VRChat SDK menu back

[kind leaf]

The old video player looked like an sdk2 2018 prefab. make sure it is removed from the project. Also, CP wont show if you have compile errors

protv also required U# if you didnt import it already do so https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp

[full sluice]

Oh ok

[stone marsh]

you should consider joining that discord for further help with the asset xP

Always make sure you read the dependencies of an asset/prefab

[analog wyvern]

i teseted my world and its a bit smaller than intended, whats the best way to scale it up to avg height/size

[stone marsh]

Ideally you should adjust the scale of items on the FBX import screen for each FBX in your world.

however, You can pretty much just select everything in your scene and scale it up using the scale tool.

Average VRC height is around 1-2m. player capsule is 2m. spawning a capsule or just dropping an FBX of a model into your scene can make decent size reference.

[zenith solstice]

Does anyone have any issues with Wolfe's video player while having multiple players? for some reason the starter video is white in one while the other works fine

I have set multiple textures for each as the website instructed and they work fine but the starter video doesnt play automatically for one (which worked fine before the second). And they work fine independently when i put a video to play on them

[stone marsh]

If you scroll up a few posts, I actually just shared a link to ProTV. Wolfe's player is kinda dated. ProTV can do what you're trying to do out of the box.

[analog wyvern]

alright i did that, now my model positions are wack but ill fix em

speaking of which is a music player possible on quest? i know media doesnt work but does music work? I wanna try to make several song selections

[zenith solstice]

ah, let me take a look, i'm new to vrchat

[stone marsh]

If you have any issues with it, he has a discord link in the description on the Booth page to his discord server so you can get pretty good support with it

[kind leaf]

The Wolfe player actually receives updates lol and no I have not had that issue with multiple players. Make sure the second one has its own screen material and is properly linked to the 2nd controller. If the 2nd player is sharing linkage with the first you will have issues.

[stone marsh]

Well sure. Just nowhere near the frequency and has a prefab already setup to do exactly what they wanted which is why I mentioned it. Of course Wolfe player will do what they need as well, but easier to just say use this, it's already setup for that, than explain how to do it and to troubleshoot what they did wrong in multiple steps.

Besides. ProTV is objectively better

[kind leaf]

100% agree. ProTv is feature rich 🙂 Wolfe doesnt need updated as frequently. And it might be better 🙂 I just stick with what works for me 🙂 I do enjoy the ProTv tho just wont give up on a sure thing and ive written so many mods for the wolfe player for myself lol.

[zenith solstice]

Protv worked flawlessly

I guess I'll stick to it

But Wolfe is ok, it was just being wonky with the auto play with multiple sources so meh, whatever works works. But I have no issue with it and it's pretty well designed

[patent wave]

is there a way to get better quality audio from udonsyncplayer? it sounds pretty muddy. no effects, everything bypassed.

[covert copper]

hello everyone. I'm a beginner to VRChat, what version of Unity should I use to Create my world? The recommend version(20194.31f1) got error: 'PlayerSettings' does not contain a definition for 'SetVirtualRealitySDKs' when I import the sdk.

oh sorry, nerve mind, I use the wrong version

[odd wharf]

A simple start

Gonna try to make the world look somewhat realistic

[stark ermine]

Hey, does anyone know a way to convert Source maps (Made in Hammer, in my case the CSGO Insertion 2 map) into a Unity map?

[odd wharf]

You can convert Source maps into .OBJ I think

[stark ermine]

Okay, will try

[near escarp]

Sounds like a job for pragma engine

[true knot]

Source 🤢

[deep hamlet]

Can I use Unity to bake lighting with overlapping UV's?

I've heard Unity generates it's own light baking UV maps

Not quite found my answer in the Unity documentation, unless I'm missing something

[ruby jay]

uv2/light map uvs must be non-overlapping

a mesh has export settings, you check Generated Light Map UVs in it

if unity outputs insufficient results, i would recommend generating a second set of uvs in a 3d editing software (e.g. blender) as you can properly do uvs there

[deep hamlet]

Thank you! I'll keep that in mind

[ruby jay]

oh, and to directly answer your question, unity won't generate anything implicitly, that's what i meant by using the mesh export settings

[deep hamlet]

Dw, I got that bit, I can just create a new UV map I intend to use just for light baking like I do with normals I suppose

[ruby jay]

normal maps and uv maps are very different
unity will bake the textures for the lighting using the uv2 set/map
while shaders (this is not a hard-rule but the standard) use uv1, your mesh needs uv1 and textures
while light mapping only requires uv2, either generated by you or letting unity generate them

[deep hamlet]

Oh no, I mean I sometimes will create a separate UV map for my normals in some instances, say I'm using a trim sheet with details like screws and bolts, I'll just create UV islands over whatever piece of the normal map I need

[ruby jay]

okay, i understand

[deep hamlet]

Shame Unity can do that but doesn't support UDIMs

[warm rose]

hello I finally got an world to work for me lol (started an new one)

[next goblet]

why can’t i upload worlds

[bold ibex]

Can you be more specific on whats stopping you?

[next goblet]

idk i got the sdk (3) i made it with unity 19

[bold ibex]

wym idk

[unkempt turtle]

which unity version did you use exactly

[bold ibex]

are you getting a prompt thats telling you your account isnt trusted enough?

do you have an error in your console preventing your upload?

[next goblet]

i think the old one

[next goblet]

i’m ved

[unkempt turtle]

you need to use Unity 2019.4.31f1

[next goblet]

i have that one

@unkempt turtle

[unkempt turtle]

cant you log into tve sdk then?

[next goblet]

tve?

[bold ibex]

the

[unkempt turtle]

typo because of phone keyboard

[bold ibex]

we are trying to go through literally everything that might be the reason because you arent being specific on the problem

[next goblet]

sorry

so made the world

then i invited myself because it’s doesn’t show in “mine”

[unkempt turtle]

did you upload it to the correct platform?

[next goblet]

and then i joined and it sends me to my home

i uploaded it to quests and pc

[bold ibex]

relogin to vrchat and make sure you login wit the account you uploaded

[next goblet]

i have other worlds so it couldn’t be that

[bold ibex]

even if the world is borked it should still show up in the mine row

unless you uploaded it with the wrong unity version but you said its the right one so

[next goblet]

i think i didn’t wrong unity because it tells me to update it

[bold ibex]

Can you open your unity project, and then screenshot the topmost bar for me? it tells the true U version

[next goblet]

yeah

one sec

[bold ibex]

sometimes if you install a version incorrectly, like over a previous one, it thinks its a different version in unity hub but once its an open project its revealed

revealed being it will@show the true version

[next goblet]

@bold ibex send here?

[bold ibex]

yes

[next goblet]

it’s the quest version

[unkempt turtle]

wrong version

[next goblet]

bruhhhhh

[unkempt turtle]

you use 32f1

vrchat uses 31f1

[next goblet]

bruhhh

[unkempt turtle]

🤷

[next goblet]

:3 can you send me the download 🥲

link*

[bold ibex]

vrchat docs has a handy thing

[unkempt turtle]

its in the docs

[next goblet]

that’s were i got it from tho 😔

[bold ibex]

google "vrchat docs unity version" then clic this

did u click this one

also if you got it from the docs like a month or so ago it would be an older version

[next goblet]

thanks

[bold ibex]

and make sure you got the most recent VRCSDK 3.0 worlds and worlds only else it will break wit avatars 3.0

old VRCSDKs were made to work with the unity version that was out at the time, so using them now can very well break stuff

same thing if u use new VRCSDKs with old unity versions

lots of information!!

[hazy pebble]

is 128k a fair quality for inworld audio?

[bold ibex]

I mean listen for yerself and see if that is too bitcrushed for ye

best way to tell i recoon

yknow once its in game, dont just play the audio and call it a day

[hazy pebble]

maybe I should ask a different way: is 128 common? I'm no audiophile, can't really tell the difference :c

[stone marsh]

128 is normal for streams, videos, most content.

[warm sparrow]

Anyone know any good world prefabs people have made that are public

[green lagoon]

https://vrcprefabs.com/

[dusk summit]

Anyone had problems with post processing since last build? It works, appears normally like in all my worlds, but when people take pictures (including myself) the post processing just isn't there in the pictures :/ I haven't updated any of my other world's SDK for this reason and I have not figured out the cause of this

I didn't make a canny yet because I wanted to double check it's not my fault, thr post processing is on the water layer and is correctly referenced in the main camera, is not animated, and appears correctly in desktop / VR but is not visible on the main camera preview & when taking pictures

[near escarp]

Which post processing effects do you use ?

[dusk summit]

I use temperature, EV & bloom.

[near escarp]

Have you tried with only bloom ?

[dusk summit]

No but I can

Oh yea it's also in ACES mode but that's working on my other maps ...

[dusk summit]

nope, no post processing when using the vrc camera no matter if it only has bloom or both

in desktop capture F12 works fine

first post proc + bloom second only bloom

main camera's on default layer, both PP & camera are under an empty object but didn't seem to change anything when in hierarchy's root

boosted the bloom to be more visible, originally at .12

[near escarp]

Thanks, will ask the engineer working on the camera to look into it

[fossil hull]

I did feel like bloom disappeared for me in the game.

Wasn't sure and haven't tested it yet though, I only have very little as you can see in the screenshots

[dusk summit]

yea this world's project was made after the camera update (i remade it from scratch bc of issues with bakery & my files), and it just plain doesnt show up with the new camera

[near escarp]

Are you using Unity's fog ?

[dusk summit]

no

in case that'd matter, beside clipping planes everything is default, same settings as my other 5 worlds

all those are also on 2019, but not latest SDK

didn't make a canny bc for some reason doesnt show up in the camera preview either, but that's always been this way and shows up fine in play mode

[near escarp]

Have you tried making an extremely simple world with the newest and any previous SDK with just bloom to see if that seems to be the issue ?

[swift trench]

does this look like a clear sign?

[dusk summit]

i can update my synth cube rq but gotta update unity too & a bunch of addons, give me 10 and i'll post results

ye nvm

same here

this project is on 2019.4.29f1, sdk 2021.08.04.15.07

just checked another of my world and same thing

[near escarp]

So it's not just the latest sdk then

[dusk summit]

yup, just havent been taking pics much lately, trying to find one that works

okay this one the pp works but not bloom

[near escarp]

So it's bloom specific ?

[dusk summit]

2019.4.30f1, opening the project

on 3 of my worlds it hides all post processing

this one is bloom only

this one is on 2021.07.23.18.12

[near escarp]

bloom is pp though, I can't see how it could only have an effect on some of them

If you can write up a canny with all that info, we can then keep you and others updated on the progress

[dusk summit]

ah, just checked, i don't have pp beside bloom in this last one, that's why

sorry x)

okay, gonna try to explore other worlds to get some info

yup, gone on cam from a 2 year old world too

alright i'll put all that into a canny

[rocky ermine]

Does anyone know if there is a way to create a portal in a world that leads to a Friends+ version of it or does the portal have to lead to a public instance? Like say you have the world id, can you put that in the portal maker and use some argument to turn it into a friends+ or invite+?

[hazy pebble]

thank you

[foggy spire]

hey Is there a way to place something down in my vrchat unity map that shows me if my map to the right size for avatars to move around in? (i used to use the vr chat tutorial avatar model from SDK2 to do sizing but now thats gone)

[green lagoon]

if it's helpful the capsule collider for the avatars in vrchat are two meters tall

[foggy spire]

ah thank you

[peak flicker]

My friend mentioned that they can't set the world that I created as their home world. They say it's grayed out. Is there a setting I'm supposed to change to allow them to make it their home world? I can't find much info on that

[green lagoon]

have you published the world to the community lab yet

[peak flicker]

Yeah it's published and set to public

[green lagoon]

no clue then

[peak flicker]

:c

[bold ibex]

I dont think you can do that wit worlds in community labs anymore, I tried recently for a cool one but nop it was greyed out

[peak flicker]

Oh

What's the other option instead of Community Labs? I assume it has to do with rank, right?

[bold ibex]

there is: upload (private) not community labs; upload (public) up for community labs; upload (public) upload (an update) for a world that already made it through community labs

community labs is a buffer for public content, to make sure the bad and crap stuff gets sorted out

worlds submitted to labs will eventually leave labs and become normal public worlds

the more activity they get generally the faster they will graduate from labs

[analog wyvern]

whats a good way to get activity? also can i update a public world that is still in community labs?

[peak flicker]

Oh I see

Thank you!

[bold ibex]

a good way to get activity is to have your friends play it in wit u when ur on, or just have a generally cool world, also packing the world with avatar pedestals with swick avatars is good too

You can update a world that is in labs, and it will stay in labs

it wont knockout

[analog wyvern]

oh alright, whats the difference in having it reach public then?

[bold ibex]

once its through people can set the world as their homeworld and its easier to search

vrchat does have a community labs search but

it sucks

its so unreliable for me

either labs worlds dont show up or end up bottom of the list

[analog wyvern]

yea ive dealt with that before lol, I really wanted to make my world my home world, is that not possible if is not public?

[bold ibex]

I guess it isnt nope

must of been a recent update I dont remember it being like that

[analog wyvern]

hm, ill try it out once i release it

[bold ibex]

oh you can make your own worlds homeworld, but with others it doesnt seem to work

it doesnt evn need to be in labs or public

[analog wyvern]

ah alright, well thank you very much for the info

[bold ibex]

no problem

[scenic plaza]

What is the general go-to for a mirror material that reflects the environment?

[green lagoon]

pretty much any super shiny material will reflect a reflection probe

so you can just use like the standard Shader with a smoothness of 1

[rain radish]

any help ?

[near escarp]

unity console errors ?

[near escarp]

can you go all the way up the console to find the first errors

[near escarp]

how out of date is your sdk2 ?

[rain radish]

VRCSDK2-2021.11.08.14.28_Public

[near escarp]

Did you try importing other things in your project ?

[rain radish]

no

[near escarp]

what did you do before it stopped working ?

[rain radish]

its actually premade world i just download it from a friend and i put the sdk first and then i put the unity project and tried to upload it it wont work

[near escarp]

Are you sure that's the SDK they had made the world with ?

[rain radish]

they told me its sdk2

[near escarp]

yeah but you'll need to use the version they were using

[rain radish]

ohhh im not sure tbh what it is

[near escarp]

make a new project and start with that, hopefully will work

they'll have to tell you the version they used

and give the unity package for that version

[rain radish]

ok sure thank you for your time ^_^ ❤️

[meager anvil]

Do mirror toggles have to be cubes? I set them as plushie prefabs in my world and they don't seem to work

[near escarp]

they can be literally any object as long as they're setup correctly

[meager anvil]

I see! Thank you! I must have broke them then xD

These are my buttons and Udon scripts!

[green lagoon]

that's a cute way to toggle mirrors

[meager anvil]

Aw thank you! ^^

[near escarp]

Where are your trigger components ?

[meager anvil]

Oh, I'm not sure! I had just followed a YT tutorial as I've never used Udon before

Where would I put/find those?

[near escarp]

https://youtu.be/YuWbH5c9CBI?t=404

Root of the object ^

[craggy umbra]

Hello, I am in desperate need of a way to make a stage where the people on it have their voice amplified.

[kind leaf]

https://github.com/Guribo/BetterAudio

[swift trench]

Sdk2 was unity 2018 lts
Don't know what one tho

[craggy umbra]

Wow thanks so much!

[random sphinx]

Hey all, I'm looking for some water that I can use in my world; any suggestions?

[craggy umbra]

Wouuld you be capable of making a unity prefab that will make it easy to work it? I'm willing to pay for a comission of it.

[ebon linden]

Two that I know of: https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/clear-water or https://www.patreon.com/posts/32252234.

[random sphinx]

thank you very much!

[urban epoch]

How could you forget? It was 2018.4.20 aayyyy

I need to go to bed

[bleak sparrow]

@rain radish are you using Standard assets ?

[warm sparrow]

Anyone know any good world bases that are free?

[kind leaf]

Plane and Cube :)

[bold ibex]

anyone know where i can get scene descriptor

[kind leaf]

Its a component

[strange egret]

Do I need to change unity version in VRC scene descriptor

[dusk summit]

Just drag udombetteraudio prefab into the scene, drag the pickup microphone and then on both of these click set all references in scene and it should be good to go

[kind leaf]

Sent them a screenshot for setup instructions using the new Area Trigger. No need to hold a mic, which for some reason a majority of performers prefer to deal without. They want free hands 🙂

[dusk summit]

I mean they seemed to not know much so I just hinted at the absolute easiest thing to setup

[kind leaf]

naw, you can though if it covers an ocd thang 🙂

[craggy vigil]

someone make the dunder mifflin office

[analog wyvern]

any good videoplayer prefabs? or audio?

[frigid estuary]

[SDK3] I'm trying to make a video work on a material. It worked in SDK2. The way I did it in SDK2 doesn't work in SDK3 however. How can I get it to work again? It's just about the "Letting a video play on a material" aspect. No interactive video player.

[kind leaf]

https://booth.pm/ja/items/2536209
read the instructions for the video before downloading. Save yourself the stress

[kind leaf]

super basic office with plenty of models already online for download that can be imported. Give it a go yourself. Here is an interactive view https://legacy-editor.archilogic.com/3d/archilogic/nsh7wfvq?sceneId=3d6acff4-abcd-4c58-b3f3-d56d99642199&mode=view&view-menu=none&main-menu=none

[random sphinx]

What are the things that increase a world's size the most? Textures, materials, models? What's the best way to reduce a world's size?

[bold ibex]

Textures and models pretty much. If you want to see exactly what items are taking up space in your world, you can download VRWorldToolKit. It is a .unitypackage that you can import to your project, and it can tell you what items take what amount and % of space in the most recent world build

It also has a bunch of other tips and info about what to do with your world within

its on github for dl

[swift trench]

i didnt know that tool excisted, neet tool for devs as it tells you about places to optimize

[random sphinx]

thanks i'll check that out

[swift trench]

it even taught me that reflection probes excist

[bold ibex]

I have a question that hopefully wont be hard to answer

I'm right at the very beginning on my first world project, but I am having trouble finding the control panel under VRChat SDK

[bold ibex]

I installed the package, but all I can find is utilities and Udon Graph

Those are the only two dropdowns

[swift trench]

should show the full menu i have

make sure your useing the right unity version and latest sdk3

[bold ibex]

I'm running 2020.3.32f1 Personal

[swift trench]

wrong version for vrchat

[bold ibex]

And I got the correct version of sdk3 from the website

ohhhh

[bold ibex]

Was getting a bunch of compilation errors too so that makes sense'

[swift trench]

2020 probably wont be supported for ages as it changes how assets are handled

[bold ibex]

Ah

[bold ibex]

Also a quick newbie question, what would be the quickest/easiest way to add collision physics to a LiDAR scan .obj

I tried adding a collision mesh, but it doesnt seem to be working correctly

yo does anyone know how to like make it so that a characters eyes will follow the character in game

like if i put a model of a person in my world would there be a way to make its eye follow players locally

[green lagoon]

that would be some Udon scripting but how exactly you would script that I'm not quite sure at the moment

[quick lintel]

Is there an easy way to change the reach of the voices of the players ?

[bold ibex]

what is this bruh

[lapis shell]

This sounds fun, I'll code this up this weekend for the fun of it, I've done something similar in the past. Unity has a method called Transform.LookAt which will handle the majority of the logic here.

[bold ibex]

you mind helping me out with it

[lapis shell]

I'm down.

[bold ibex]

this is like my first time working with vrchat worlds so

[lapis shell]

Have you ever worked in code before?

[bold ibex]

nop

[lapis shell]

All righty. I'll call you up in a bit.

[bold ibex]

can we call like

tommorow

cause my friend is going through stufff and he needs me rn

[lapis shell]

Yeah sure that's more convenient for me.

[bold ibex]

alr

i added you

[vast spoke]

uhh, it wont let me upload the world at all

and its stuck like this

and everytime i zoom in its, this

do i have to restart everything from scratch?

[bold ibex]

no

[vast spoke]

how do i fix it

[bold ibex]

idk

shouldn't havfe to restart doe

pls help

[vast spoke]

💀

[near escarp]

Check your console errors

[vast spoke]

how do i fix it

[near escarp]

Are you using the latest versions of the SDK3 and udonsharp ?

[vast spoke]

yes

this is the right one correct>

?*

[near escarp]

that's unity, not the sdk

[vast spoke]

oh, then yes

[near escarp]

Looks like your car prefab is causing those issues

They might require a more specific debugging, i'd suggest reaching out to the person who made the asset

[vast spoke]

yeah, the car was the major problem

thanks

[odd wharf]

I want a simple video to play on loop on TVs, but I can't seem to find a way to get an MP4 to play as a render texture or whatever

I got one to work but it isn't supported by VRChat

currently i just have a placeholder image, im using a CRT shader.

the only ones that seem to work use links only and I want it to be Quest compatible

oo wait i think i got one to work

i have to reencode the video it seems

NVM still not working

[tropic warren]

why am I getting this on a PC world build

[odd wharf]

While this isn't gonna answer your question, I'd recommend trying to lower filesize as a smaller filesize is more assessible

Crunch compression on textures is easy and doesn't affect most textures visually

[tropic warren]

I am not at the world optimizing stage. I want to know why all of a sudden my PC world build is capping at 50MB, when I current have the last update uploaded that is 144MB

[odd wharf]

ah ok

i just optimize while making stuff

so i haven't gotten past like 20 megabytes

[tropic warren]

didn't answer my question, but I guess Thanks for your input? anyone from VRChat will to actually help me out?

[near escarp]

Did you just switch your platform to android ?

[bold ibex]

If you go to your Build Settings from File>Build Settings, does it say you are on Windows and not Android

one single time, it did not switch properly from the button within in the VRChat control panel

[odd wharf]

I just want a simple MP4 to play that will also play on Quest. No controls, syncing doesn't matter as it doesn't play audio or anything. It's just a looping video. I have no idea why I can't just have a local video play on the VRC Unity Video Player

[vast spoke]

is there any other car prefab that isnt the go kart one

[tropic warren]

This world build has never been uploaded as an Android build. I have uploaded it 59 times as a window build and have never changed it to android.

I keep my Window Builds and Android Builds in separate projects to not make that mistake

This project is strictly Windows and has never been changed otherwise

[odd wharf]

now i have another problem

(Ignore the weird resolution i had to compress for Discord)

[tropic warren]

I’ve never switched it to android in the first place. This has been a windows build from day one and I have uploaded it 59 times prior without changing any settings.

[near escarp]

Might have to try switching to android and back to PC in that case, as i've never seen this issue before

[near escarp]

Bake your lights

[odd wharf]

I thought I had

let me do it again then

[tropic warren]

Dear god.. if I do that I will break everything that is set up for pc.

[odd wharf]

It shouldn't

Switching to Quest doesn't change anything on it's own to my knowledge

I use the same project for PC and Quest

[tropic warren]

Switching to android runs a process of converting everything.

[odd wharf]

Yes, but it should convert it back

[near escarp]

Make a backup first !

[odd wharf]

That's true

Have you tried restarting Unity? I assume you already have but just checking

Im gonna go watch Youtube while my lighting bakes lol

I usually don't bake lighting as I've had issues with it in the past and it takes like 5-10 minutes to do it cause of my PC being from 2012.

[odd wharf]

I rebaked my lights and it seems the lights only show up if i look a certain direction and close to them

[near escarp]

Then they're not baked

Disable the objects with the lights components on them and see how it's working

[odd wharf]

It turns off the light

im confused

OH

you have to do it in the light's settings

wait what lights have i been baking then

uhh

i hope this isn't gonna take 30 mins

[kind leaf]

haha 30mins is nothing when baking with unity. There are many people that havent moved on to Bakery that will gladly wait the hours for a quality bake.

[odd wharf]

I don't use Bakery cause im broke lol

[random sphinx]

any suggestions for places to find good skyboxes, aside from Unity asset store? maybe 360 panoramic?

[green lagoon]

https://polyhaven.com/hdris

[random sphinx]

thank you

[scenic plaza]

Hey everyone, I am trying to make a platform that continuously rotates with the animator. In CyanEmu it rotates fine on start but in VRC it doesn't, any idea what I could be missing?

nm missing the animator portion

[scenic plaza]

I'd like to set a rigidbody on a spinning rigidbody and have it rotate with the platform it's set on. The platform is kinematic and the collider meshes are in contact. I have a high friction material set... It doesn't move with the platform though, it just slides off. Is there a trick to this one?

[kind leaf]

Parenting

[scenic plaza]

the non-kinematic rigidbody must be a child to the platform?

[kind leaf]

If you want the chair to move with the spinning yes

[scenic plaza]

I'll give that a shot, much appreciated

[scenic plaza]

That worked, but when the object isn't on the platform it still spins. Do you know how I can make it so that it spins only when it is touching the platform? I think I know how I could solve it with udon and constraints, but I'm hoping there is a unity-native way?

[kind leaf]

Not quite sure I follow. Is this like a chair that you can move around? You want it to spin with the platform while on it, and not when off?

If that is the case foster the child and setup a simple OnTriggerEnter script. When the chair comes in contact with the trigger of the platform, set the chair to be the child of the platform. OnPickup of the chair, set the parent of the chair to something not the platform.

[scenic plaza]

heh you're following, I was looking for a purely physics way of doing. The fostering idea is good stuff, sounds way cleaner than with constraints. I'm going to try that, thanks!

[kind leaf]

yep np. Yeah Unity physics arnt even close to reality. Those calculations might melt my pc. 😛

[scenic plaza]

lol

then we'll just keep it to booleans then heh

working on a record player prefab, when the record is set on the turntable I'd like it to spin with the turntable

[kind leaf]

Interesting way about it. I think the most common way is to just animate the turntable. Have the animation off by default. Have a record as an object and if you pickup the record and enter the turntables trigger zone the record would disable and vanish and the turn table would spin up.

[scenic plaza]

dang

well I'm hoping that you'll pull records offa shelf, put them on the turntable, turn the power on, and move the needle into place and then the music starts... sounds like that would be straight forward if animated

[kind leaf]

it would, your method will be far more immersive.

[scenic plaza]

that's the hope anyway

[meager anvil]

Certain pickups aren't appearing in my HQ mirror. I assume it's settings on the objects, as some of them do but they all seem to be the same

[unkempt turtle]

check the layers

[meager anvil]

What would need to be checked

[meager anvil]

NVM fixed it! It was the mirror settings. Everything shows up now besides a desk, but that doesn't really matter lol

[toxic wraith]

is it possible to add a button that opens a webpage to our world?

[meager anvil]

Don't know if this would be the channel, but I'm looking for the pool tables that are commonly seen in pool worlds or club worlds! You can grab the stick and hit the ball without going into a weird camera mode

[toxic wraith]

Any idea Guys ??

[dusk sapphire]

You can't. VRChat has only given that ability to certain partners/event worlds, such as virtual market.

[dusk sapphire]

https://github.com/VRCBilliards/vrcbce

[unkempt turtle]

there is a special sdk that can, its used for vket

[warm bear]

How does one go about making a Toggle button that mutes the world music and not disable the music?

i'm only aware of how to toggle set game object, but no further than that

[coral magnet]

You'd animate the volume slider of the audio source, and control it via an animator boolean.

The boolean would be controlled via udon.

[warm bear]

is there a way to use cyantriggers for that?

[wise osprey]

Hey guys, I need some light please... I've been trying to build my first world here, and after two days of work, I started to have this problem where whenever I open the VRChat SDK Build to Test my world, VRChat opens and it gets in a loop of "Loading screen" and "black screen". It keeps like that forever. :c So I'm unable to test my world to see if I'm doing it correctly or not. Any suggestions on how to fix that please? 🙏

[unkempt turtle]

apparantly its a common bug. id suggest to upload and publish it each time you update it. takes longer, but is more reliable

[wise osprey]

So I'd just need to delete the previous world and publish it again to test, right? I'll try that, thank you!!

[unkempt turtle]

no, you can upload directly to the existing world and it will update automatically

[wise osprey]

Ohhhhh, sorry for that, I'm really a newbie. XD I took some Maya and Zbrush classes 9 years ago, and I never opened Unity until last week. I've been following a good step by step on how to make a world, so I'm bound to make stupid questions XD <3

[unkempt turtle]

nah, dont worry, everyone starts somewhere after all ^^

[wise osprey]

Thank you a lot for the help!! <3

[unkempt turtle]

no worries, if you need help feel free to shoot me a dm or ping me here ^^

[wise osprey]

Perfect, thank you so much again! 🙏

[unkempt turtle]

always glad when i can help ^^

[warm bear]

black screen implies that a spawn point isn't properly set up

need to add vrc world

[kind leaf]

Normally that would be right, but because their black screen is looping instead of kicking to home, it's probably the bug.

Cyantriggers can be used just like sdk2, best to see the cyantriggers discord for help with setups if you need it.
If you are giving sdk3 udon a go, we don't animate sliders.. volume = slider.value.

[warm bear]

i see, i didn't even know cyan had a discord for cyantriggers

[coral magnet]

Yes, should be easier in cyantriggers than c# actually

[wise osprey]

Update!
Yes, the problem was the spawn point! I deleted the old spawn point that for some reason was causing the loop, and I created a new one! Now the test button works again!
I came with that conclusion after Izu's suggestion to just publish instead of Testing, because when I tried to publish, it wouldn't publish either!

[coral magnet]

I always animate that sort of thing if it's just a toggle 😄

[warm bear]

do you by any chance know how to toggle colliders too? is it the same thing with boolean?

certain worlds have bed colliders for example, but i can never understood how they did it

[coral magnet]

yep, that's how I always do it, if it's something like a toggle.
Interact() simply points at an animator, and I tell it to invert a boolean parameter. The animator does everything else.

So I offload all the udon logic into animator logic. (which is usually just switching between two animation states)

It's how I do all the visuals in my most recent world, I don't manually toggle anything.

[warm bear]

noted

[warm bear]

Does anyone know why Canvas Ui Text isn't working in the game? I use CyanEmu too and its the same thing. Ui Text isn't showing up.

nvm fixed > canvas needs to be world space + main camera

[tidal bear]

does anyone know if theres a way to control auto exposure with a slider?

[fossil hull]

You can't directly access those parameters. Afaik the only way is to interpolate between multiple post processing settings using the weight parameter.

[tidal bear]

i see

[meager anvil]

How do you make a portal between rooms? As I have an attic and I want to walk down the stairs to go to the living room

[green lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BheVIHD3Vrg&t=0s

or physically have some stairs connected to rooms

[meager anvil]

Thank you!

[green lagoon]

hope your world goes well

[cobalt barn]

guys i have a question

how do i even begin making a vrchat world

[kind leaf]

Login to the website, click downloads. click the Setting up the SDK button under content creation and start reading. Do that and you wont be here 20minutes later freaking out about errors.

[cobalt barn]

ok\

[cobalt barn]

do i need unity?

[kind leaf]

🙂 Thats why I said what I said

Requirements
We're going to need a couple things before we can get started.

Current Version of Unity. We strongly recommend using Unity Hub, available on that page.
VRChat SDK - See the Choosing your SDK page to see how to choose the correct SDK for your use.

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk

This is the most accurate video I could find. The Unity version and SDK are wrong so make sure to read the guide for the correct versions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpolR6NjNhw

[robust pawn]

Hey I need help with my world. I can't get the VRC_Trigger to work. unity will not even call it up. I'm using the sdk3 with the Unity 2019.4.31f1. I mite be doing something wrong but if some one could help.

[kind leaf]

VRC_Trigger is for sdk2 only

[robust pawn]

Okay what would I use in its place ?

[kind leaf]

Udon behaviors

The video above has a simple toggle graph in it.

https://www.youtube.com/c/VowganVR has many udon tutorials. Or you can look into CyanTriggers if you want to keep an sdk2 build style

[robust pawn]

Okay thank you I'm new and all the other vids call for that. I'll take a look thank you you been very helpful.

[analog wyvern]

my pickups dont work, it just seems to pick up the box collider and not the object itself

[mild spade]

Make sure the object is not set as "static" (top right corner of the inspector)

[analog wyvern]

thanks

[humble wraith]

i'm unable to use the vrchat menu when i have certain cameras toggled on in my world—have i screwed something up incredibly badly or is there a common footgun associated with cameras, LOL

[glossy jackal]

When trying to build and test a world I get the error msg "A VRCSceneDescriptor or VRCAvatarDescriptor is required to build VRChat SDK content" and I am not able to test the world. Anyone know how to fix this?

[near escarp]

That's the first step required to upload a world, I'd suggest to watch a basic tutorial, you missed the step where you're supposed to use the vrcworld prefab

[glossy jackal]

alrighty thanks

[broken mulch]

anyone know a fix to where on the build splashscreen the buttons just aren't there?

[near escarp]

Make sure there's no errors in console

[broken mulch]

there's none @near escarp

[near escarp]

Can you show your unity window ?

[broken mulch]

just shows nothing

[near escarp]

Alright save and reopen unity

errors might show up then

[broken mulch]

already done

[near escarp]

[broken mulch]

and I reimported the sdk about 3 times

[near escarp]

Can you show the rest of the window ?

[broken mulch]

sure

[near escarp]

And you're correctly logged in ?

[broken mulch]

yup

the only time it showed once was when I deleted rero shaders

then it disappeared again

I'm loosing my MIND

[near escarp]

reimport rero ?

[broken mulch]

mm

ok

tf

it worked!

[near escarp]

[broken mulch]

thanks a ton!! for real!

[bold ibex]

What would be a good way to add "fake" rain (preferably including the noise of rain hitting the walls/floor) to a world? Particle effects?

[warm sparrow]

Does anyone know where to download those rainy windows for a world?

[bold ibex]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/fake-glass

I've been using these in all of my worlds

[warm bear]

any generic rain shaders has them i'm sure

well yeah weather particles

Does anyone know why Particles destroys themselves after finishing their duration? i already check marked the looping option and it still destroys itself after awhile. In Play Scene, it loops, but not in cyanemu or vrchat itself.

[toxic wraith]

here is an Object Spawn graph. I wanna add "Time-Delay" node. Wer do I attach time-delay node?

[bold ibex]

After the event?

[toxic wraith]

Ty let me try

[ruby jay]

be aware that the vrc instantiate itself is not synced nor will late-joiners see it

[faint geyser]

i can see this text thro objets

[warm bear]

press play on the scene and stop it

[faint geyser]

it in game too

[warm sparrow]

Anyone have any free and good furniture assest

[random sphinx]

probably a dumb question; is there anyway to reduce the size of unity_builtin_extra?

[regal bear]

How to fix a world that went to kbps

[remote vigil]

Anyone know how to fix vrchat crashing when doing build and test? i already know theres nothing wrong with the world because it works just fine when i upload it.

[warm bear]

clean cache + delete pipeline manager

[regal bear]

guessing that was for tech and not me lol

[warm bear]

yeah

and as for world that went to kbps, thats a good thing, unless you messed something up such as deleting a whole bunch of stuff

[regal bear]

I have the glitch where it kicks me out instantly when I join it on pc

for quest people it still works

[green lagoon]

https://booth.pm/en/items/3406912 found some scripts that have the rain attached to the players

[gleaming plover]

im sure this gets asked often but in general if i make a world and add assets to the project but never use them in the world

and then make the world public, does downloading the map in vrc download all those assets?

[near escarp]

nothing that isn't in your scene gets uploaded

[gleaming plover]

okay thats kind of what i figured but wasnt sure

[regal bear]

I'll just make a new world I guess since the problem might be unfixable lol

[valid umbra]

Hi, I have seen that people have the 'Udon Graph' tab in Unity, how do I add it?

[gleaming plover]

i know you can access it in the VRChat SDK tab

which opens the udon graph tab

is that what youre looking for?

[valid umbra]

Lol yes, that simple. Thank you ❤️

[gleaming plover]

[valid umbra]

Its my first time using udon now, is it easier to use it rather than adding component scripts? Like pick up objects, open doors etc

@gleaming plover

[gleaming plover]

ive only ever written scripts for C# in game dev, never for vrchat but id say so yeah

i think that was the whole point of them introducing udon is to make it a bit easier

[valid umbra]

Fair, thanks for the info 🙂

[gleaming plover]

im pretty new to deving stuff for vrchat tbh so someone will know better than i

[valid umbra]

I have created a few avatars in blender, unity also recently Vroid. But it was around 1 year ago I made a world last time and I only remember the old stuff

Aight

[gleaming plover]

gotcha

[analog wyvern]

my textmesh pro text is showing through walls and stuff in the untiy editor, does it go away in game or how can i fix it ?

[faint geyser]

how do i fix this

[analog wyvern]

try reimporting it, if not I uninstalled it fully then reinstalled

[zenith solstice]

This is how my world is looking so far

It's staying around 90 fps

its got VRCBillards, Two proTV players for the club and lounge chill area as well as some unity store assets

it's got occlusion culling, and the filesize is around 200mb

do y'all have any input on how i could make it better or maybe more optimized

it's not public yet cause i'm not a trusted user yet and i have no idea on how to get it cause i don't play on griding hours and idk how else to get it

stuff like lowering filesize, etc etc

[stone marsh]

200mb is kinda rough. Ensure your crunching your textures and ensure your occlusion culling isn't set too agressive with very small occlusion areas which will drive up occlusion file size.

Also, you don't need to be trusted to publish a world. Only a User to submit to labs.

[analog wyvern]

you need to be new user i think

[zenith solstice]

i meant publicly

[stone marsh]

User. New user allows uploading avatars. User allows submitting to labs

[stone marsh]

I don't understand. You can publish a world to labs of you're simply a User rank

[analog wyvern]

aw shit well i cant submit my world? Im new user rn 😦

[stone marsh]

Nah. U need one more rank.

[analog wyvern]

damn, all that work, can it be private tho?

[stone marsh]

Yes

[zenith solstice]

yeah private is fine

[analog wyvern]

does private let me invite friends and stuff?

[stone marsh]

I actually forget if you can publish even to private as a New User. It might not let u. Been a long time. If it lets u, then yea, you can just invite your friends

[zenith solstice]

is there a tool to compress the texture files? i got a bunch, lightmap files i got the unity standard, i also just followed the tutorial on culling, i don't know about that file size

[stone marsh]

I'm pretty sure u just can't submit to labs is all

[analog wyvern]

i used world debugger

[stone marsh]

You select the textures and choose your compression settings in the inspector

[analog wyvern]

VRWorld Toolkit

[stone marsh]

At the bottom of the inspector for any given texture is the compression settings. Typically, sitting it to Crunch and then setting the slider to max will result in good reduction in file size. If you're not leveraging it, you can disable MipMaps as well and save even more file size. MipMaps are useful but most don't leverage them correctly anyways.

[near escarp]

VRWorld Toolkit does it automatically for you

[stone marsh]

Sure. But it's good to know how to do it yourself too

Regarding occlusion culling though, this is only needed if you have other rooms and segmented areas. If you have just one big room full of stuff. There's no reason to use it.

[zenith solstice]

ah cool then

[stone marsh]

Occlusion culling allows for objects to be culled behind walls or large solid objects. Unity normally only does frustum culling, which culls anything not in the view frustum, but occlusion culling allows unity to know where solid walls are to cull objects behind them.

[zenith solstice]

sorry, i'm just a hobbyist some stuff i don't get it XD

i have the toolkit

[stone marsh]

Yea, def use it, I'm just explaining how to do things normally so u understand them

If your lighting is baked, that tends to be a large amount of file size. Experiment a bit and try and use the lowest quality possible that still visually looks good or how u want. Baking lighting can easily be 80+% of a worlds file size or more if not careful.

[zenith solstice]

what are some good resolution settings for it

in the lighting settings

[stone marsh]

Really depends on your project and meshes tbh. There's some good tuts on YouTube and elsewhere though that can help you understand what everything does. I'd be a bit more specific but I'm not home. Maybe someone else can elaborate on specific sections that can be reduced to lower file size of a bake instead.

But as long as you have a somewhat decent GPU and you're using the GPU baker instead of CPU it shouldn't take too long to play with settings, re bake and checking the file size (listed in the lighting tab at the bottom shows bake size)

[random sphinx]

anyone recommend a good clock for in-world? hopefully a free one?

[green lagoon]

digital or analog

[random sphinx]

either way. i'd like to see each

[green lagoon]

https://booth.pm/en/items/2588912

https://mcphersonsound.booth.pm/items/3017500

https://booth.pm/en/items/2225650

[random sphinx]

thanks very much

[gleaming plover]

i think i broke it idk what i did

[stone marsh]

You most likely have errors in your console, possibly from a broken script, missing dependency, etc.

You need to go to your console tab, clear the errors, then attempt to enter play mode. If/when it fails, inspect your console again and screenshot ALL of the red stop sign errors, yellow triangles and info blurbs don't matter. Reading the red stop sign errors will typically direct you to the issue script or point towards what's missing.

[gleaming plover]

yea it occurred after i tried to add qvpens

[stone marsh]

I'm assuming you're using UDON?

[gleaming plover]

yeah

[warm bear]

Can anyone remind me how do i add Occlusion Culling again? i haven't dive into world since like 2 months ago my memories are vague

[stone marsh]

QVPen has U# as a dependency. Anytime you download an asset you need to ensure you check the dependencies. Dependencies should always be placed in your project FIRST so that when you load the prefab/asset you're using, it has all the stuff it needs

I'm guessing you don't have U# in your project. You need to add U# then reimport QVPen so it can find it's dependencies.

https://github.com/Merlin-san/UdonSharp/releases/latest

This should be listed towards the top of the QVPen page under dependencies. But yea.

[gleaming plover]

ohh okay i gotcha

that makes sense

[stone marsh]

Good luck :3

[analog wyvern]

tryna shrink my world size, its at 80ism mb rn however when i try to compress textures with toolkit it always says 20% of textures still there

[bold ibex]

Are there any good TV assets that work on both PC and Quest or do I need to setup a completely diff prefab for quest?

[gleaming plover]

dont think it helps but i do know many tvs dont work for quests from worlds that i venture into often

so i think its probably the latter

i only know english

[green lagoon]

and no need to post in every channel

[gleaming plover]

whats the best way to add a simple poster to unity

using the poster image as a material?

[green lagoon]

yeah that would work

[gleaming plover]

thx ill give it a try

[green lagoon]

and then add the material to a quad and resize it to the correct aspect ratio

[gleaming plover]

i dont really know how to do that

do you have a guide or something that could explain it?

apparently you can just drag them into the scene so that works i guess

[kind leaf]

Any tv in the sdk3 tab will play for Quest when setup correctly. Have fun in the prefab toybox https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml#

[bold ibex]

Running into this weird issue when trying to add a pickup to a existing mesh, rather than picking up the object I'm picking up something else? The object itself looks okay? What could cause this?

[kind leaf]

your picking up the collider. Make sure static is not checked

[bold ibex]

derp

static was checked

thanks 😄

[gleaming plover]

i have a toggle setup for the mirror

how do you set the mirror to off by default

this might be an udon question tho idk

[meager anvil]

Question! Is there a channel for searching for Udon games? I have pool, but I'm looking for another one to add in the main living space. Preferably a free asset! (If this doesn't go here I'll delete it!)

[gleaming plover]

im tryin to think of other games in general but i cant think of any

im p new tho anyways

[meager anvil]

I know there's a rubix cube, this maze thing that you can move and the ball moves with it, chess, checkers, etc! Really anything ^^

[gleaming plover]

oh yeah i guess so

i figured chess and checkers were just objects people could move and not so much udon games

[meager anvil]

I've seen an Udon chess! It had a score board and everything, showed where you could move the pieces

[gleaming plover]

oh damn thats dope

[meager anvil]

Ey I found it! XD

https://github.com/emymin/EmyChess

[gleaming plover]

ohh nice

[chilly hawk]

Ah, I added that to my unfinished world a few hours ago :)

[gleaming plover]

question, maps that have like cities below them and stuff

are those just skyboxes?

[chilly hawk]

If you can't reach them, then I guess so. But I'm a complete beginner, so I could be completely wrong.

Right now I'm stuck with an audio source issue.
I have a video player and I really want the sound in the blue area. Because audio sources are spherical, it pokes through the ceiling. :(
I have never scripted in Unity before and haven't used the program much.

[gleaming plover]

so are you trying to stop sound from going through the ceiling kind of thing?

i know in unity its possible but vrchat specifically idk thats why you can hear ppl through walls

im pretty new tho too

[chilly hawk]

Someone recommended muting/unmuting the audio source with a collider when I leave/enter the room

(Which I don't know how do do)

[gleaming plover]

<@&397642795457970181> i need to talk to a mod about somethin

[chilly hawk]

Plus the audio escapes through the bottom. Really wish I could use a cuboid instead of a sphere for audio range.

[gleaming plover]

mood

[chilly hawk]

I can shrink the area to this to keep it in the room, which would allow me to mute it when outside the room.

[crude garden]

Please do not ping that role for anything but in Discord (channel) emergencies.

If you have something ouside of a chanel to report, you can DM one of the ones on the list over there ->

[gleaming plover]

yeah i wasnt sure who was on mb

[kind leaf]

That request gets a bit complicated. There are C# scripts/ Unity assets that solve this issue but BetterPlayerAudio for VRC already did it for you. https://github.com/Guribo/BetterAudio/releases/tag/BPAv0.8 make sure to install any dependencies and try the demo scene first.

[chilly hawk]

Thank you! Hopefully I can figure it out 😅

[chilly hawk]

The example world didn't really explain anything...

[kind leaf]

no, just shows you how it works, including sound proof rooms

there are prefabs in the package

[chilly hawk]

The examples all seem to be for player voices

And I can't even test that by myself

I just want a simple way to stop the audio from this video player from escaping the room it is in. :/

Although silencing the people in that area would be a nice bonus for when people are talking on both floors.

No idea how I use BetterAudio either way, though

Might be because I'm a beginner with Unity, but I just don't get it

[gleaming plover]

so if im happy with my world

do i publish it or do i publish and send it to community labs

[kind leaf]

labs is for public. Dont tick the labs box if you want it uploaded as private

[gleaming plover]

ohh okay

[gleaming plover]

can i swap back and forth between labs and not labs too?

or is it like "once its set to labs its public for good"

[kind leaf]

yeah but it will cost you 7 days. Can only upload to labs once a week and if you cancel it you have to wait another 7 days before you can make it public again.

[gleaming plover]

ohh okay so if i set it as private, i can invite people over to it to take a look?

[kind leaf]

yep

[gleaming plover]

thank you so much for the help

👌

[zenith solstice]

Is there any prefab of a password lock that allows the first player to open it to set a password? I saw a bunch of prefabs but they were all set with premade passwords

[kind leaf]

nvm, dont think that one lets you set a password in game lol

[random sphinx]

if i wanted to put graffiti over a wall, is the best way just to use a standard shader cutout? the decal shader is deprecated. is there a better way?

[bold ibex]

you could give a part of the wall a texture, which youd then paid the graffiti on

keyword PART

I can show you what I mean if you want

[random sphinx]

ok

[bold ibex]

Have you ever used a software for 3d moddels like Blender

youd have to do things in there for this method but its simple

and I can record it in like 15-30m

[random sphinx]

yeah i use blender. I'm pretty sure I have a good idea of what you mean, but i'm wonder how the UV map looks

are you saying to use 2 materials?

[bold ibex]

you would have to make a new material in the process yes

[random sphinx]

if a portion of the wall is going to use a different material, but i want it to look like the same material, would I have to line up the UV maps by hand to make it look right?

[bold ibex]

just select the specific faces of the wall you want the grafetti on, make a new material, assign the new material wit the faces u selected, and then use an image texture for BaseColor w your painted graftti

[bold ibex]

I think? unless its a solid color i think so

can I see what ur wall looks like

[random sphinx]

ok, i know what you mean then; but i need something more modular than that

well currently i'm just putting a quad over the wall with a cutout material

it looks fine except when viewed in a mirror; in which case you can clearly see they are coplanar faces

it's a minor thing but it bugs me

[bold ibex]

Does that mean its backfaces are showing?

[random sphinx]

no it means the two faces are fighting each other for Z order basically

so they appear to sort of clip into each other

[bold ibex]

OH right

I dont think there really is any other practical way thats an improvement from your method now, but I havent done much world dev so

better get bakin it onto a texture

[random sphinx]

i need them to be easily changed

i'll figure somthing out, or i'll just accept the fact that they look a little wonky in a mirror's reflection

[bold ibex]

oh I see

wonder if there is some kinda light projection magik you can do

[fading ginkgo]

Im having issues with the mirror

its not acting like a mirror lol

its gray, only showing the skybox then flashes BADLY

[gleaming plover]

Im guessing youre using the mirror from the sdk or

[trail moss]

I've got a question regarding transparent textures, and displaying them in Unity. I've been able to get the transparent texture to "Cutout" on the Plane that I put down, but the texture itself (the pure white text .png file) isn't being displayed. Here's two view from in the Unity Editor and in-world.

Don't worry. This is just a test, and this little guy is just acting.

[kind leaf]

Surfaces are affected by their environments. White doesnt show as white if your lighting isnt setup right. If you want the texture to always be white no matter what enable emissions on the material, and just slide your albedo into the emission map slot.

[trail moss]

Thanks! I'll try that out first thing tomorrow!

[sudden lily]

I've seen a world or two that's managed to make player voices and sound effects echo around like they're in a large empty room when in a specific area in the world, what's being done to achieve that?

[kind leaf]

I'm not 100% but reverb, audio effect/reverb zones sounds like a good place to look.

[bold ibex]

How would I make sound effects play for walking

I am okay with something pretty jank

[kind leaf]

Mobile so not detailed but you could just get movement pressed and play looped until not. See vrc input on the dics

Docs

[bold ibex]

okay thank you

[kind leaf]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/input-events

[bold ibex]

I hope cyan triggers has a preset for inputs like that

[fading ginkgo]

I wasnt using the prefab, i had a plane that had the mirrorreflection material and the vrc mirrorreflection script

I used the prefab instead amd it worked so all good now i guess

Its weird how it doesnt work anymore tho. I been making mirrors that way forever

Especially mirrors that had rounded tops

[gleaming plover]

Yea i just use the prefab

[ebon linden]

Not really sure how to word this cause I'm not a texture person, but with Unity/ProBuilder is there a way I can stop texture UVs / materials from stretching with an object?

Like I have a repeating grid texture that I want every 1m in-game to be the same size piece of the grid and not have to change the UV scaling every time I resize the cube. I feel like I've tried every option in ProBuilder's UV editor and it acts the same regardless.

Found a way to do this in case anyone else is interested: https://youtu.be/vIh_6xtBwsI

[random sphinx]

does an object's size (MB) change in a world depending on whether it is a prefab or not?

[kind leaf]

No, prefabs are just preconfigured templates. Prefab things you want easy access to for instantiation at runtime, or quick duplication of in editor for building.

[graceful totem]

I’ve uploaded a world thats in obj, and the texures are in an .mtl format, how do i convert that to png or dds for materials?

[green lagoon]

mtl just stores the material properties the textures aren't actually stored in them

[winged arch]

Uh

Ping?

[dusk marlin]

yeah got pinged too lol

[harsh briar]

Ghost ping guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[graceful totem]

finding all the textures is gonna be the hard part, i got this from nifskope, lol ones an obj and ones an fbx, the all grey is the obj, it has bones for each prop thats inside of the world, and the fbx is just all in one item, however, it contains 466 materials, each material is the texture for each item, it just cant be selected specifically compared to the obj

[novel helm]

wait where's the ping message
I got a ping here (and nobody pings me unless its @ everyone/here)

[kind leaf]

your cars extended warrantee, no worries.

[novel helm]

Wait, you're saying I can save up to 10% on car insurance?

holy moly! this is a steal! where do i sign?

[vast spoke]

how do i add stuff like yeet-o-matic? do i just drag it into the hierachy?

[kind leaf]

Would appear so, but having never downloaded it I would suggest looking in the package for a readme or a sample/demo scene. If nothing exists but a prefab with maybe a couple of scripts then absolutely. You can also ask FairlySadPanda if you need further clarification. Google drive delivered packages are hard to determine setup ahead of time, no readme like github.

also Requires UdonSharp.

[analog wyvern]

whats the best way to transfer a unity/world file entirely? Im tryna move it to a new pc i got but It takes a long time with USB, any alternative?

[near escarp]

google drive

[chilly hawk]

I'm adding some games to my world. Got chess and a pool table so far. Gonna look for darts next.
What other games are out there?

I've spotted a simple arcade cabinet before and card packs.

[scarlet moon]

Anyone able to explain to me how many meshes/texture/polygons is too many when creating worldspaces?

[green lagoon]

there's not a precise number on that besides for lower is better

[scarlet moon]

What about terrain with tons of loopcuts and sculpting?

[green lagoon]

also that makes it a bit tricky to give a precise number other than lower is better is PC doesn't have fixed hardware specs

[kind leaf]

terrain isnt a single mesh, you use large obstacles to block visibility and use occlusion culling which unrenders terrain parts not visible.

[green lagoon]

like with the quest 2 because it's fixed Hardware has like a number of don't render more than 50,000 triangles at once

[scarlet moon]

thanks thats helpful

[idle jolt]

Is there a shader out there that lets me make a pulsating emission material? I want to have a reactor core pulsate with power.

[green lagoon]

but that wouldn't answer the recommendations for PC but I suppose if you start with building for with the quest in mind you're going to have a good time on PC

like what kind of world are you trying to make

[scarlet moon]

I am very green to Blender, what I am using is the sculpting function with a drawing tablet for terrain pieces. I dont know how much detail would effect performance.

[bold ibex]

thanks so much ^^

[silent night]

Anyone know how I'd get light to pass through these wall shades, to light up the room? https://gyazo.com/d304548c0ff6c1a993f0e77d1e6ced68

[latent goblet]

I am about to go insane man. I got this canvas. Typical shit with the ui script on it. The slider works fine, but the buttons and text field can only be pressed from weird angles and I have no idea wtf is going on. I made a dummy canvas with a slider and button and both worked fine. The only difference is the color.

And I feel like the answer is something super obvious that I am gonna feel incredibly stupid for

[latent goblet]

I am actually brain dead

The canvas size literally was not big enough for anything other than the slider

Making it bigger fixed it

[bold ibex]

I have a very important question when building a world! Is there a certain amount of skinned mesh renders you can have on the world to make it available on quest, or can you add as many as you want? I’m fairly new to world development for vrc, and I wanted to make a floor that had moving tiles to it with a looping animation, but idk how many skinned mesh renders you can have. I’ve seen that for standard avatar worlds it’s 8 on the vrc docs. Is it true? Thanks for the help!

here's an example to keep on topic

Oh I was just going to suggest trying to have a bone for every cube, so that you can animate them and also have one big mesh

although now its a skinned mesh and idk if the performance is net worse or better

If I were to export it from blender as is, would it count as one mesh?

or several

If its one mesh in Blender, I don't see why it would be more in Unity for this

oh, cool!

Thanks so much!

bones dont autoseperate meshs by their influencd once it hits Unity dat be maddness

no problems

[patent wave]

click the check box to disable it in unity. will enable on mirror toggle.

[random sphinx]

probably a dumb question but how do you make a climbable ladder?

[chilly hawk]

Another probably dumb question: how can I make my fan spin?

[unkempt turtle]

animate it

[chilly hawk]

I know almost nothing about Unity, including that 😅

[bitter loom]

Ik not right channel but what is the western shooter game called on vrc

[mild hamlet]

crease a animation track, slap it on the fan, animate its rotation 360 degrees. make it loopeble, and it should be done

[chilly hawk]

A component?

[mild hamlet]

yes, now drag a animation clip to that open slot

there are prob tons of tutorials for quick animations like this on yt

[dusk sapphire]

You need to use an animator, legacy animation components are culled

ctrl+6 to open the animation panel, and hit create animation with your fan mesh selected, and it'll automatically create the animator component with a new animation

use the record button and rotate your fan from 0 to 360 degrees with an appropriate length

and when you're done, ctrl+a to select all key frames, right click and set it to auto

[chilly hawk]

Do I rotate it with the transform box after pressing record?

[dusk sapphire]

yeah

you'll want your 0 key frame to be 0

and depending how fast you want your fan to spin, 360 on the appropriate frame

this assumes your fan mesh is centered properly on its axis of rotation of course

it looks like it might be? can't quite tell

[chilly hawk]

Turns out it isn't

[dusk sapphire]

make sure your selection is set to pivot https://nyanpa.su/i/YOvJ22zl.jpg

[chilly hawk]

...no idea how to centre it in the prefab editor

[dusk sapphire]

if its not centered properly, you'll have to do it in blender probably

[chilly hawk]

Ah, it's centred if I select pivot

[dusk sapphire]

thats fine then

[chilly hawk]

But it won't rotate on the pivot

Transform uses the center point, not the pivot point :/

Refuses to rotate on the pivot

[dusk sapphire]

huh, thought it was pivot

you could try making the mesh a child of a game object and rotate that instead

with the game objects center located appropriately

[chilly hawk]

Not sure why pivot doesn't work for rotation
(0 and 90 degrees - it is not using the pivot point)

(whenever I look up Unity questions I get a 5+ year old result and a bulky script as the 'solution'...)

[chilly hawk]

Looks like I had center and pivot mixed up and the pivot is placed incorrectly 🤦🏻‍♂️

Seems impossible to change the pivot point in Unity, so I have to that object a child as you suggested

[chilly hawk]

[dusk sapphire]

https://nyanpa.su/i/VFKL230I.jpg

set your inspector view to debug and uncheck the legacy checkbox

guessing you created your animation clip earlier with the animation component

[chilly hawk]

I unchecked it, but the warning is still there

Ah, same timestamp so it may be okay

[gaunt minnow]

getting these warnings originating from VRChat SDK

does anyone know what is the matter?

[dusk sapphire]

they look like they're fine to ignore, but in any case always make sure you're on the latest version of the sdk and udonsharp

[gaunt minnow]

that's what caused them to occur 😛

would it be sensible to reinstall sdk and udonsharp ?

[dusk sapphire]

I mean, if everything's still working and nothings wrong, its probably safe to ignore those warnings

[gaunt minnow]

gotcha

thanks @dusk sapphire

[chilly hawk]

@dusk sapphire the fan spins in the animation preview, but not in-game

Got these object settings

[dusk sapphire]

I mentioned earlier, you need to use an animator, not the animation component

animation components will automatically be removed

[gaunt minnow]

getting these too, any ideas?

[dusk sapphire]

cyanemu updated?

[gaunt minnow]

yup

[dusk sapphire]

any other errors?

[gaunt minnow]

i reinstalled all these a couple days back

grabbed latest version for all of them

these are all errors

all warnings

mind you this is on opening project, it happens every time on opening though i tested

only the CyanEmu errors persist after i clear console

[chilly hawk]

@dusk sapphire thanks for your patience; what do I put in here?