world-development

[bold ibex]

Ok

[worthy horizon]

the output you dont really need to deal with

it should default

if you want it to repeat indefinitely check the loop box

ffs.. even after deleting the map on the server and uploading fresh "corrupt file record" are you kidding me?

this is cursed

[worthy horizon]

suspect the last error is something to do with the multipart upload system

[bold ibex]

I'm sure someone already told you this, but you should totally use 2019.4.29f1 instead of 2018.4.20f1 ;P

Might be worth a try since other things aren't working out

[flat fjord]

This might be a dumb question but would any unity assets from the store work in vrc?

[green lagoon]

you cannot use any custom C# Scripts so you probably couldn't import interactive objects but like 3D models would be fine would be fine

[flat fjord]

thanks

[green lagoon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml but here is a database of interactive prefabs for vrchat

and it also has helpful editor extensions

[flat fjord]

This is helpful! Thanks

[green lagoon]

hope your world stuff goes okay

[flat fjord]

This is my first day attempting to learn unity and stuff lol

[green lagoon]

nice

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2507157026 found this to be a decent little guide on building worlds for the first time

[vestal oriole]

So I found a tutorial on how to create HQ and LQ mirror toggles, but I don't know how to make an off button or have the mirror be off by default. Can someone show me how to do that?

[errant beacon]

VowganVR has a tutorial on mirror quality loops/for loops o: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0D9Z8-HVBI

Having the mirror be off by default can be done by just disabling the gameobject, at the top of the inspector

[worthy horizon]

if your making an SDK 2 world I can help

[bold ibex]

Um my part is gone

What do I do

[snow crater]

Been having this problem since i upgraded the project to 2019

It's says corrupted file but i have no idea which one

[errant beacon]

might want to contact support? o: http://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[bold ibex]

My thing is gone what do I do

[errant beacon]

would help to tell me more specifically what is gone lol

[bold ibex]

Ok I was trying to upload my world to PC and then my SDK part where you can like press the upload button it’s just gone I don’t know how to get it back back

[errant beacon]

as in the build control panel button?
Check the console for errors/warnings? should be a button to open that at the top-left of the asset browser

also you can press Printscreen (should be above the Backspace key somewhere) and paste that directly into Discord to get a clean screenshot

[bold ibex]

Sorry I meant the sdk area to test your world and to upload it it’s just not there

[errant beacon]

yes, that's the build control panel

[bold ibex]

Oh

[errant beacon]

It's also not in the screenshot area you're showing, it should be under the VRChat SDK dropdown at the top of Unity o:

[bold ibex]

No my sdk part was with the inspector area

[errant beacon]

just to verify, mouse over the VRChat SDK dropdown at the top of Unity, then click Show Control Panel?

[bold ibex]

It’s not there

[errant beacon]

Check the console for errors/warnings? should be a button to open that at the top-left of the asset browser

[bold ibex]

Where

[errant beacon]

Scrolling down a bit might reveal more? o:
also in the asset browser, right-click something and click Reimport All? note that it might take a while depending on how big your project is

[bold ibex]

And where is reimport

[errant beacon]

In your asset browser, right click something and hit Reimport All in the menu that pops up

[meager anchor]

Anyone know if it's possible to make an optimized mirror that'll show.. Let's say "LayerTest" as a layer.
But also have that object be invisible in the Main Camera (Referenced in VRCWorld). I've tried this and it doesn't seem to work.

[dusk sapphire]

you can use MirrorReflection layer for this purpose

[meager anchor]

I know but then how would I make that object unseen for all players except the mirror itself?

[dusk sapphire]

objects on MirrorReflection will only show up in the mirror, and not in the players main perspective, isnt that what you wanted?
unfortunately you cant change the culling mask for the reference camera

[meager anchor]

huh okay, I'll try that then!

[shell trail]

Hey, does anyone know where I can find those pressable buttons for Udon?

[shell trail]

the same ones as in JustBClub

[shell trail]

okay, I found that

[worthy horizon]

Ok so it's not just me getting this, I have been getting it on multiple projects on different computers. I'm about 100% sure at this point that it's a server side bug

potentially also something in the multipart upload class

[dusty frigate]

How can I turn this into a physical object so I don't just fall through it? When I tested it, I go through the floor

[desert python]

add component -> mesh collider

[dusty frigate]

thanks

[sacred pelican]

Hello. I would to add a user counter to my world, but I do not know if there an existing prefab or if I need to create it from scratch.

By user counter, I mean an object that shows the number of users currently in a world. I’ve seen it in a few worlds, like MEROOM.

[dusty frigate]

How can I allow jumping in my world?

[sacred pelican]

You will need to add a prefab object called VRCWorld—which can be found in the VRChat examples, if you have added it.

The prefab should have a behavior that shows walk speed, jump height, etc.

[dusty frigate]

My map has the scene descriptor. Can I use that, or do I need the prefab?

Nvm, found everything

[sacred pelican]

Gotcha

Hope everything works out!

[bold ibex]

does anyone know a video or something to show me how to add music to a world buttons with music so you can turn it off and pick different ones

[errant beacon]

If you're using SDK3, you might want to look into for loops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0D9Z8-HVBI

[bold ibex]

thanks

[worthy horizon]

i performed the experiment to try and determine the cause of the infernal errors

it seems i was able to reliably publish and update the test world until the file size exceeded ~200mb

then the upload class starts throwing the errors about "corrupt file record" and "cannot start an upload against anything but the latest version of this file"

[graceful meteor]

Where can I find tutorials that aren't super beginner but also not super advanced?

[errant beacon]

for Udon, VowganVR has some pretty good tutorials! c: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3VeBzV9HgI
Xiexe's lighting tutorial is also petty great, though you should use Progressive instead of Enlighten, and you should also generate lightmap UVs for your meshes: https://vrcat.club/threads/xiexes-lighting-tutorial-how-to-get-good-at-baked-lighting-101.2081/
also Silent's wiki on postprocessing is vv helpful too: https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/-/wikis/Other/Post-Processing note you shouldn't have to downgrade postprocessing versions anymore, though

[shut brook]

Um question why cant i join the world i made

[unkempt turtle]

depends on what happens

you cannot see it -> wrong build or wrong unity version
you get booted back in your home world -> probably a corrupt vrcworld prefab or errors in your console
you crash -> you probably managed to build a crasher in a world form

[errant beacon]

Import https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/releases and see what it's wold debugger says? o:

[snow crater]

It might be, I trying for 3rd time and left my PC, only to come back it worked somehow. Tho after that it never worked, just keep failing to upload

Right at the end when the upload is finished is when it'll say it failed. So it sucks that I have to wait until the end for it to see if it worked or not

[worthy horizon]

welcome to my hell

a world with over a year invested into its construction and now I cant even push an update to it

[nocturne crown]

It’s looking good :)))

Added the petals falling and need to work on shaders and stuff

[bold ibex]

How do you save your world and be able to transfer it to another project like you know those demo world where they would give you like these little unity projects and you click on it and it put you into the world how do I do that

[graceful meteor]

What the heck Bakery settings do I use when baking ambient occlusion? What intensity do I choose? does it use the same scale as post processing?

[fast python]

So I know of the noriben water shader that's quest compatible, but it begins stuttering and lagging after a while. However, the water shader in the quest version of oceans away has no stutter. Does anyone know what water shaders exist for Quest worlds without stuttering?

[abstract plover]

Does anyone know what's up with the Ui and UiMenu layers? I made a layer that should collide with these layers. In the editor, this works fine. In VRChat, this layer falls right through.

I hope this can work because I would like to make a glass table that players can interact through (UiMenu and UI don't block picking up objects) and walk through, but my snack pickups can still rest on

MirrorReflection is almost what I need except it collides with players

[bold ibex]

jar I swear you have the most games popular

[rain shadow]

Not really sure if it's directly possible due to how UI layers work and the limited options with layers that don't block raycasts

Doing some testing just now though if you have a layer that collides with your snack pickups but not players that does block raycasts you can add a second collider that is set as trigger that has inverted scale and that will cause the raycast to pass through the object allowing you to pickup the object

[abstract plover]

Wow if that works that is a neat trick. Let me give that a try

[rain shadow]

Ah it somewhat works but having negative scale has nothing to do with it so possibly ignore that.

[abstract plover]

hmm inverted scale or not I can't seem to get the pickup raycast to bypass like you say. That would be interesting though. Tried it with the walkthrough layer

Should be something like this @rain shadow ?

[rain shadow]

Yeah though it may not work as well with smaller objects. I was testing with default cubes.

Yeah doesn't work as well with smaller objects

[abstract plover]

I'm having trouble getting it to work with even normal 1m cubes

Do you think that's too small

Either way yeah my table is not that thick

and the snacks are pretty smol

[rain shadow]

Oh if you had the tables on the Walkthrough layer that would prevent the weird raycast behavior with the trigger colliders

[abstract plover]

yea I was thinking the walkthrough layer collides with my pickups but not the player. If only it didn't block raycasts

What layer would you recommend then to do the weird raycast-pass-through trick

[rain shadow]

So my idea was that using the trigger collider to cause the raycast passthrough bug would possibly work

But the length of the raycast once it has passed through the trigger collider is based on how far the raycast is from your player to that trigger collider

[abstract plover]

oh interesting. ok

Well thanks for the idea. Looks like it wont work for me or at least what I need it for but that's ok

[rain shadow]

Rushed testing because I don't have much time right now

Will continue messing around with some other stuff in an hour or so and get back to you if I find anything

[rain shadow]

@abstract plover So it is possible but I can't find any non-jank methods

The most reliable way is to disable the collider on Update and Re-Enable it on PostLateUpdate so Physics collisions are still calculated but the collider is disabled when the Raycast happens

So it's an unfortunate way of doing it but if you really needed that behavior it is possible

[nocturne crown]

added the texture maps and turned on shadows

[torpid stratus]

No more heroes

[marsh sigil]

can vrchat use HDRP or URP? see a lot of it with 2019

[errant beacon]

No, VRChat uses the built-in Unity pipeline only afaik

[green lagoon]

it cannot as doing that would break all of the previous content

[errant beacon]

^

[marsh sigil]

gotcha

[river musk]

How Do I do the lazer point toggles instead of using cubes

[errant beacon]

You'd need to make UI buttons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU7ckfkUrw (assuming you're using SDK3)

[graceful meteor]

@near escarp I need help figuring out how to make my Ambient Occlusion heavier in substance painter

the scene is supposed to have dramatic contrast and it looks good it just needs to be increased

[near escarp]

You can use the generated AO as a texture mask and increase it's strength

I did that for my model

[keen wave]

ok so my map has fog is there a way to add more than 1 fog map in unity becuse fog is great at some parts and others have no fog

[near escarp]

it's camera based, where do you not have fog ?

[keen wave]

@near escarp i want to add fod to change higher in certian zones sorry didnt know how to discribe t lamo

theres fog but in tiny corrdiors its so small that i hate it

[near escarp]

You'd have to use Udon to control the fog parameters

[keen wave]

thank you

[vapid badge]

would anyone have advice on using hinge joints to make a door that I can pull open? I'm using a unity store asset fridge and I want to be able to open the door. I've tried messing with hinge joints but it never quite works right

[graceful meteor]

Why does unity randomly invert like one normal in the entire god damn mesh after importing? Looks fine in blender, everything is facing the correct direction, and then Unity has to go and be a prick

its not even normals unity is literally deleting faces from my mesh

WHY

[kind leaf]

what format are you importing?

[graceful meteor]

fbx

proof the normals are alright in blender

unity deleting faces

[kind leaf]

and if you spin the camera behind those faces they are still gone?

[graceful meteor]

yes

its not the normals

its unity being a horrible, buggy mess of a program

[kind leaf]

doubtful. Unity cannot edit the faces of the fbx directly. It can only interpret what the file is telling it to render and Blender is very flexible with mistakes, Unity is not. Ied encourage you to Google your issue while you wait for a solution, even try a blender or Unity discord.

[graceful meteor]

ill prove it

here

windows 3D viewer, the mesh looks fine

thus, unity must be fucking something up

because its a joke of a program

[errant beacon]

Try exporting as a Collada .dae instead of FBX? Blender's FBX exporter can be weird sometimes

[graceful meteor]

ok

@errant beacon how did you know that would fix it?

[errant beacon]

By having issues with Blender FBX files lmao

[graceful meteor]

200 IQ

[errant beacon]

don't even remember what the specific issue was but using .dae fixed it o:

[graceful meteor]

I'll carve your name into where the face was missing

[errant beacon]

lmao

[graceful meteor]

I noticed the DAE file size was bigger. What's the actual difference between dae and fbx?

[errant beacon]

.FBX is~~/was originally an~~ Autodesk file format, and .dae is a more general use 3D model file format afaik? not sure about the specific differences

Both support shapekeys, armatures, vertex colors and etc afaik

[bold ibex]

im curious if you try to export it as fbx again if it magically works or if its always broken

[errant beacon]

afaik Blender's implementation of it's FBX exporter is kinda janky for some reason
edit on .FBX: actually apparently no, .FBX is closed-source and is owned by Autodesk currently, but it was initially developed by Kaydara for their motion-capture software
Collada (.dae) is open-source fwiw, is owned by the Khronos Group and was made by Sony initially, and describes assets as XML files

[graceful meteor]

so this other problem im having... All of my normal maps look good except for the normal map for this pillar

when I export it it looks like this:

dafuq

from substance painter

just a little confusing

why the exported map looks different than the one in substancepainter

but my other maps look better

is it just because the pillar doesn't use a smart material?

[bold ibex]

those are from within unity right?

[graceful meteor]

yeah those are the exported normal maps

[near escarp]

Are you using openGL for your substance project ?

[bold ibex]

idk if it would make a difference but make sure that normal map is actually marked as a normal map and not just anything in unity

[graceful meteor]

where do I check

[near escarp]

Project Configuration

openGL is what unity uses

[graceful meteor]

no it looks like i've been using directX

should I only use openGL?

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-burning-hell-gif-4808980

[green lagoon]

yes as blender also uses opengl format

[graceful meteor]

so would the textures and maps I already exported that look fine change if I were to go back and switch to OpenGL?

I feel like not having an actual normal map is going to remove some of the detail from this pillar but most of my other normal maps look well.. normal

[green lagoon]

yes it would probably behave better as OpenGL normal Maps

[graceful meteor]

ok ill try

[green lagoon]

but looking at your screenshots it looks like there is no normal information on your normal maps from the pillar

[graceful meteor]

yeah there's not

[green lagoon]

so it's literally not doing anything at the moment except take up video memory

[graceful meteor]

well even switching to openGL it still exports like this

[green lagoon]

then your problem is you didn't bake any normal detail for it to work with

[bold ibex]

i am lowkey confused

[graceful meteor]

alright im going to re-bake and retexture it now and see if it persists

[green lagoon]

hope that goes okay

[errant beacon]

Add an empty gameobject to be your spawn location, then add that gameobject as a spawn in your scene descriptor. Alternatively, use the VRCWorld prefab as your spawn and delete your old scene descriptor object

[graceful meteor]

@green lagoon Every time I bake it I just end up with this monochrome normal map

even using low poly mesh as high poly

how is substance painter even going to know what normal map parameters to use

[green lagoon]

that's your problem you haven't told it anything to put on the normal map as you're using your base mesh for your normal map

[graceful meteor]

but I baked all of these other meshes for other assets in the scene and the maps look complex

so what's different about this pillar?

[green lagoon]

your substance painter materials probably provided normal map detail to those

[graceful meteor]

that's what I figured

but..

do you re-bake after applying a material?

say I applied a material with normal data, do I then have to rebake?

[green lagoon]

no you only bake at the beginning of the substance painter project

[graceful meteor]

but every time I bake it gives me the monochrome normal map

[green lagoon]

yes because you're using the low poly mesh as your base to bake and question what are you painting in substance painter

that is resulting in no normal information when you export

[graceful meteor]

just the pillar

im just adding some materials and painting over it. fill + brush layers

[green lagoon]

I mean like are you painting just solid colors and not substance materials

[graceful meteor]

no I'm painting materials onto it

[green lagoon]

can I see a screenshot of your substance painter project with the pillar

[graceful meteor]

see DMs

I forgot to check any of the height/metallic/rough settings in any of my materials.. I feel dumb >.>

its solved though

[errant beacon]

making programs work together can be fun sometimes lol

[graceful meteor]

I spend 90% of my time trying to solve really simple things and 10% of my time creating

any idea why shading smooth makes it look odd?

[green lagoon]

would you mind showing a edit mode screenshot

[vapid badge]

So i have a door on a hinge joint right, and I have the handle object there, that sphere. I have it position constrained to the door it's directly a child of. when i test it in cyanemu, it works fine. when i publish and try ingame, the sphere flies off as if the constraint wasn't there. why?

[green lagoon]

okay weird so you don't have any sharp edges like marked on the model

[graceful meteor]

not that I know of nope

[bold ibex]

Mooncrest just curses all the 3d models they have

[green lagoon]

https://i.gyazo.com/e60233f35ebfd3bbf5e443fe6f524a9f.png

maybe try this setting

[graceful meteor]

it was this box

yeah

Someone told me unity's terrain tool trees can't have baked shadows, is that true?

either cast or receive

[odd wharf]

Currently the world I've put the most work into, this is just a sneak peak of next update.

I try to keep it running well on Quest but this next update will be the one where I add low quality mirror toggle as this one worries me a bit.

I extended the water alot and I want to make sure Quest doesn't go below the good FPS it got with the 3D mirror

Next big update, I plan to replace the plane model as it's very basic.

It's from Cities Skylines, where you aren't even really supposed to see the planes upclose.

[green lagoon]

yeah but you wouldn't want something with a big polygon count on the quest

or having the airplane eat most of your texture budget

[odd wharf]

True

I use models from games that are usually Xbox 360 era.

One cause I like the style, and two they were very good at optimization

If it does lag on Quest I'll probably add some culling since there is fog to cover it up

[green lagoon]

you would have to be careful on downloading airplane models because anything intended for like proper flight Sims is going to be too heavy for the quest

[odd wharf]

Yeah

[green lagoon]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/vrc-mirror-proxy-area and you could try this on the quest instead of a 3D mirror

[odd wharf]

I have my eyes on an airplane model from Fallout New Vegas which is actually where the 2 platforms come from.

[odd wharf]

I'll look into it, thank you.

[green lagoon]

and question do you have a quest yourself for testing

[odd wharf]

Yes. I mainly play on Quest. I just can't test currently cause my parents took it.

[green lagoon]

oh dear that sucks

[odd wharf]

But I can kinda guess Quest fps by looking at what half my FPS would be

[green lagoon]

then you might want to get a friend with a quest to test to make sure the Mirror Works in the quest as the page didn't have any notes on how well it worked on the quest

[odd wharf]

Alrighty

[green lagoon]

slicing your framerate in half is not going to quite be an accurate measurement as your PC and Android Quest is going to render some stuff quite differently as far as how expensive it is for each platform

[odd wharf]

Yeah

It's a good guess from my testing as my GTX 660 runs the game around 120-130 fps while Quest gets 50-70 fps (depending if you look at the mirror)

[green lagoon]

also I would suggest making it to where your mirror is turned off and you have to push a button to turn it on

[odd wharf]

I plan to. For now I just plan to have a high or low toggle but later I'll have it off by default

The mirror placement isn't really final and I don't really want to set everything up when I'll probably mess with it alot.

I would do the mirror off by default but for now the map surprisingly doesn't lag much with it on Quest

[green lagoon]

if you put all of your mirrors stuff in a empty object you can move that empty object around instead of having to having to modify each object individual

[odd wharf]

I already do that alot

[green lagoon]

and have you looked into baking your lighting

[odd wharf]

I click the generate lighting button

I think it's baked

[green lagoon]

but do you have your object set to static so they can get their lighting baked

[odd wharf]

I'll have to look, I'm currently making sure my little sisters don't break anything.

[green lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRcfHCi3MZA

[odd wharf]

i think im baking now

taking awhile

lol the ETA goes up

[green lagoon]

you might want to make it where the water isn't included in your baking

as that's going to bloat up the size quite a bit

[odd wharf]

The water shouldn't be included

It's not set as static

Unless I need to do a different setting

[green lagoon]

okie dokie then it wouldn't be included in the baked are you doing CPU or GPU baking

[odd wharf]

idk but uhh it messed up things

[green lagoon]

you probably need to generate light map uvs for your platforms

[odd wharf]

How do I do that?

[green lagoon]

it's at the bottom of the model import settings and you might want to watch that YouTube video I linked

[odd wharf]

I'll look into it later. The lighting seems to be fine for now.

[green lagoon]

cool

[kind leaf]

ha! where did you get the sleep bag? Thats the exact same fallout 4 model. neat

[worthy horizon]

taking bets on the odds that if i press "build and publish" it will actually work today

[worn elk]

Can anyone tell me what the heck this means?

It wont let me build and test

[worthy horizon]

well system.io.filenotfoundexception means the file does not exist

i'm guessing the build process bombed because of bloom.cs

because the file not found is the temporary asset bundle

[worn elk]

Right

How do I fix that?

I dont know where this bloom thing came from

probably was part of an asset pack I downloaded

[worthy horizon]

its a part of standard assets package according to the log

[worn elk]

yep I just found it

[worthy horizon]

the swift and easy way to d the script, if you arent using it

[worn elk]

I do use post processing effects and bloom in my world

[outer terrace]

Today I discovered that a world I created for a user on VRChat, which I spent months on and was paid a contract rate for, just had a credit card reversal done on it now that the world was delivered.

[kind leaf]

not the same thing, you arnt using anything from standard assets

[worn elk]

Ah, alrighty. As long as its safe to delete

[worthy horizon]

somehow i dont think that bloom.cs is tied to post processing v2

[worn elk]

This is all new to me, so I'm not sure what files are dependent on what

and buhleeted

[kind leaf]

post processing will be hidden in Packages, no worries with that

[worthy horizon]

safest solution is copy it outside the project

[worn elk]

Its in my recycling bin if I need it

I once accidentally'd the entire section of my map

luckily it was in a folder

so I just restored the folder

[worthy horizon]

bruh.gif

[worn elk]

It wont let me build and test or play for Cyan Emu until all compiler errors are resolved, but I cant SEE the errors anymore

they are flagged but I cant get them to show

[kind leaf]

Yep thats a thing. If you go through a middleman they will only ever protect the buyer. Creators always get the short straw.

[worn elk]

I'm clicking everything but it wont show them anymore

oh

I'm stupid

it had my search term saved

[grave ginkgo]

Hi

does anyone know which trust level I need to upload a world?

[worn elk]

Same error

[worn elk]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-safety-and-trust-system

[worthy horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-13134027

[grave ginkgo]

New User right?

[worn elk]

Yes

[outer terrace]

Today is my RL souse and I's two year anniversary. And this person, a VRChat user, just emptied my bank account.

[worn elk]

Any ideas?

[worthy horizon]

maybe an antivirus preventing unity from generating the asset bundle?

[worn elk]

Shouldn't be....Its never stopped me before

I did a build a few days ago

[worthy horizon]

it still says scripts have compile errors, so i'm betting there is more .cs scripts with fault

[worn elk]

This is everything

I see one for sunshafts

[kind leaf]

best advice I can give you is to use Paypal and not have the paypal linked directly to your bank. Can't take something that isnt there and a negative paypal can be deleted. Doesnt help you now but will in the future if that pos didnt ruin the experience for you.

[worthy horizon]

nix sunshafts.cs

[worn elk]

tis nixed

looks like its letting me play at least

Waiting to see if I can build properly

[worthy horizon]

the other two shouldnt stop the build

[outer terrace]

Most of my work comes through fiverr. I am a pro-rated seller because I run a VR design studio that makes VR environments (for VRChat and other platforms). My company has a huge reputation there and it is such a huge source of income.

[worn elk]

Noice. CyanEmu is working. Lets see if I can build

Looks like its working

Will report back with results

Thanks for the help!

[worthy horizon]

wish my difficulties were so easily remedied 3_3

[worn elk]

If only...

It works!

But I'm hitting my head on a small portion of the floor above me when I go up the stairs. I just BARELY dont fit

[worthy horizon]

probably would be if i had source access, i already have a really good idea where the problem is

[worn elk]

I can squeeze through if I wiggle a little

gonna have to fix that

[worthy horizon]

the trick is regardless of your player scale, the hitbox is always the same size

[worn elk]

Right. I scaled the house to the rest of my world, and everything else is fine

That

Now its like this

[worthy horizon]

yay asset bundle upload failed

[golden spoke]

https://www.fiverr.com/support/articles/360010978618?segment=seller this is a fraud chargeback... so work with fiverr and see if they can help.

[hearty abyss]

Build & Test

[sour scaffold]

anyone here have experience with CyanTriggers?

I want to make a mirror toggle
but make it so if someone turns the HD Mirror on
it will disable the Optimized mirror if its already on

and vice versa

[kind leaf]

Cyan does have a discord and the link should be posted where you got CyanTriggers.

[vast nacelle]

I can't upload my world anymore and it gives me this and essentially gets stuck at the version record part. Any ideas?

[worthy horizon]

welcome to my world

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-communication-gif-12698955

[odd wharf]

Says something about the file being too big

Maybe try saving and relaunching Unity

[odd wharf]

I have a similar system in my world

[sour scaffold]

can anyone recommend a good text mesh for Unity?

[odd wharf]

I just got on the bus to school tho

[sour scaffold]

or does the default one work fine

[odd wharf]

I've used the default one but if I remember right, it always renders on top

[sour scaffold]

yeah not too fond of that

[odd wharf]

I don't know one tbh cause I've only used that one for a certain room and then had the text back face cull so you couldn't see it in the main room

[worthy horizon]

there is no z-order buffering in the default text renderer

[odd wharf]

I mean, the only other time I've used a text thing I just made a texture

[odd wharf]

Is there a text renderer that does have z-order buffering?

[worthy horizon]

i remember using a shader that does it at one point

[odd wharf]

Personally I've just used paint(dot)net and then made the text an image

[sour scaffold]

thats what I'm doing in photoshop

[odd wharf]

Yeah that should work too

[worthy horizon]

blender and text to mesh

[odd wharf]

That's probably better then what I do but mine was just a simple title when I made a texture

[kind leaf]

lol keep that font simple. Text to mesh is an easy way to nuke performance. Been there lol

[worthy horizon]

clean mesh > limited dissolve

[kind leaf]

good to know, never touched it again after the huge poly results.

[river musk]

I'm looking for a dark carpet material is it best to look on unity asset store or google

[odd wharf]

Both. I usually use Google

My worlds I like using assets of games I like so usually if I want a texture I either Google it or look through models and stuff I have currently

There are websites with textures. Polyhaven is one I've used

But idk if it has carpet as it's textures are kinda limited

[river musk]

well carpet is like fabric right so fabric textures might do

[odd wharf]

Yeah

They have fabric

They come with normal maps and such on Polyhaven

You may want to do some quick photo editing to change the color but they should have some basic ones

[river musk]

thanks

[odd wharf]

Also, I don't recommend putting the included height map on the object tbh, I've had issues when trying to do that

[river musk]

thanks for the recommendation

[odd wharf]

And the specular I put on metallic and that seems to work

But I usually use that and crank up smoothness to make things look wet cause my world is in the middle of the ocean

[river musk]

my brain dead self forgot how to use textures what shader do I use to add it?

[odd wharf]

I use standard

[river musk]

where do I add it

I'm being dumb

[odd wharf]

Are you in Unity?

[river musk]

yea

[odd wharf]

Click on the object and it should show the material in the inspector

[river musk]

yup

[odd wharf]

If the material is grayed out in inspector then you'll need to add your own material.

[river musk]

here right?

nvm I need to change the Albedo

to see the texture properly

[odd wharf]

Yes

[river musk]

I'm brain dead as u see

[odd wharf]

Normal map should be the weird blue texture

[river musk]

aight done thank you

[odd wharf]

Normal maps help make things look way better, but I recommend messing with the value of it

Valve loved them and I can see why

Honestly might see if I can extract some textures cause alot of them still look great 17 or so years later

[sullen notch]

Question. I'm making a bed and using the VRC Station to have a lay-down interaction, but the player becomes unable to move after getting out of the bed. Am I implementing this wrong, or is there some sort of workaround for this i don't know about?

[stone marsh]

If u don't figure it out, Reimajo has a prefab on his booth page for UDON that does exactly what you're trying to do with his improved stations.

[mellow sleet]

guys i need some help im trying to upload a world and its from a unity package and it says the (filename).vrcw doesn't exist how do i fix this issue?

[worn elk]

In Unity, my materials show up fine. When I build and test, they show up like this. Any ideas?

[odd wharf]

Maybe try different shaders?

Never had this happen before tbh

[worn elk]

Ah yeah. Thats a good idea

Ohhh you know what

Its on a Legacy Shader or something

I bet VR Chat doesnt use these anymore

Thanks for the help! Just needed a point in the right direction I guess. Will report back if its fixed

[odd wharf]

Yeah. Probably don't use those

I use standard for pretty much everything lol

[worn elk]

They came with an asset package, so I didn't have a hand in them. Everything else uses Standard so I guess I thought these would too

[odd wharf]

Yeah

[mellow sleet]

guessing no one can help?

[odd wharf]

I personally have never seen that filetype

I would help but I've never had that issue.

[mellow sleet]

yeah i just went filed a ticked

[odd wharf]

Have you tried restarting Unity?

[mellow sleet]

3 seperate times

[odd wharf]

I've had issues uploading before and doing that fixes it for me

Ah ok

[mellow sleet]

im about to restart my laptop too

[odd wharf]

I would help you but I'm very much not an expert

[mellow sleet]

thats ok i still apperciate the effort

[worn elk]

You sound like you're having the same issue I was having the other day

Do you see any critical errors (stop sign icon) near your console?

For me, it couldnt generate the .vrcw file because it was running into compiler errors with some scripts I had

I deleted them and the next time I tried to build and test, it compiled without issue and the issue was resolved

Before you delete anything though, you should make sure you arent using it

@odd wharfThe shaders were indeed the issue. Thanks!

[odd wharf]

This is just a good practice in general. Makes things run quicker, especially if your hard drive is slow like mine.

Plus it makes the organizing part of my brain happy

[mellow sleet]

Can i dm you the log?

[worn elk]

You can post it here so more people can see it. I truthfully didnt know what to do

[mellow sleet]

this is the Full log
Export Exception - System.IO.FileNotFoundException: C:/Users/zanek/AppData/Local/Temp/DefaultCompany/New Unity Project (3)/scene-StandaloneWindows64-QUEST HOTEL.vrcw does not exist
File name: 'C:/Users/zanek/AppData/Local/Temp/DefaultCompany/New Unity Project (3)/scene-StandaloneWindows64-QUEST HOTEL.vrcw'
at System.IO.File.Copy (System.String sourceFileName, System.String destFileName, System.Boolean overwrite) [0x000b6] in <eae584ce26bc40229c1b1aa476bfa589>:0
at VRC.SDK3.Editor.Builder.VRCWorldAssetExporter.ExportCurrentSceneResource () [0x00229] in <d66fa9d22d9945a2b8aa2d0e0c87378f>:0
UnityEngine.Debug:LogError (object)
VRC.SDK3.Editor.Builder.VRCWorldAssetExporter:ExportCurrentSceneResource ()
VRC.SDK3.Editor.Builder.VRCWorldBuilder:ExportSceneResource ()
VRC.SDK3.Editor.Builder.VRCWorldBuilder:ExportSceneAndPrepareForUpload ()
VRC.SDK3.Editor.Builder.VRCWorldBuilder:ExportAndUploadSceneBlueprint ()
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.VRC_SdkBuilder:ExportAndUploadSceneBlueprint ()
VRC.SDK3.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelWorldBuilder3:OnGUIScene () (at Assets/VRCSDK/SDK3/Editor/VRCSdkControlPanelWorldBuilder3.cs:253)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelWorldBuilder:ShowBuilder () (at Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Editor/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanelWorldBuilder.cs:127)
VRC.SDK3.Editor.VRCSdkControlPanelWorldBuilder3:ShowBuilder () (at Assets/VRCSDK/SDK3/Editor/VRCSdkControlPanelWorldBuilder3.cs:42)
VRCSdkControlPanel:ShowBuilders () (at Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Editor/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanelBuilder.cs:325)
VRCSdkControlPanel:OnGUI () (at Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Editor/ControlPanel/VRCSdkControlPanel.cs:200)
UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent (int,intptr)

[errant beacon]

That's just the log for the one error, posting a screenshot of the full console would be helpful o:

that error's caused by other errors

[worthy horizon]

+1

[mellow sleet]

Thats the full thing though

[errant beacon]

It's just the full log for that one error, not the contents of your entire console

[worthy horizon]

err generally that fileNotFoundException is because the build script didnt execute or bombed

[errant beacon]

note you can press Printscreen (should be above the Backspace key somewhere) or use the built-in Snipping Tool to take a screenshot, and you can paste it directly into Discord

[sullen notch]

Question, how do i sync two UI's? I made a UI system and copied it to another place in my world, but if i change something on one in game, it isnt apply to the other.

[kind leaf]

Using arrays

[sullen notch]

I dont know what arrays are

[kind leaf]

Best I can do while mobile https://docs.unity3d.com/2020.1/Documentation/ScriptReference/Array.html

[bold ibex]

How do I import a material

You cant

you can import the textures for the material

but there is not really a way to import the material from blender to unity

Sorry what I meant is I have a folder of textures for one material how do I combine them

[worthy horizon]

atlas

[bold ibex]

^ you are gonna have to atlas them prior to your model

if you plan on having it all fit in one material slot

[kind leaf]

^there are assets that will atlas for you but they are horrible at matching the uv maps. So yeah, you atlas first and then apply it to your models when making the UV map

[bold ibex]

KevBal make a atlasing tutorial for non avatar stuf!!

ill like it

[desert python]

has anyone used a videoplayer to display a worlds texture as an atlas?

[desert python]

mainly asking since im going to attempt to do that later

[bold ibex]

i have a question im having issus with unity not wanting to work with Vrchats SDk2 and SDK 3 im trying to make another world and this has happen multipul times

[kind leaf]

Unity 2019.4.29f1 (ONLY that version)
Latest SDK 2 or 3 but NEVER both.
If you start a clean project and have errors with that setup post your errors.\

[bold ibex]

got a question, I wanted to start mapping some VRChat stuff, and have been working on a map for a few hours. I dislike the way unity does things, and I personally like Blender better. Is there a way I can make my map in Blender and then export to Unity?

[green lagoon]

yes just build your map in blender and Export a fbx

[nimble hull]

literally just as rainwolf plush said, build a world as you would in blender and then export to unity

that being said that sounds like a pretty difficult pipeline and although i wont push to know more about what creation process works comfortable for you, please make sure you know what you are doing

[bold ibex]

okay, last time i tried to do something like that (i was using the steam version) it didnt export my textures and i wasted 20 hours of time (it was an attempt to export to blender)

[nimble hull]

like for worlds as an example do not ever combine every single thing into a single mesh especially if its a complex world with multiple rooms

[bold ibex]

okay, thanks for the advice

[nimble hull]

? i dont understand this question. were you creating a world in unity and then exporting to blender?

[bold ibex]

no vice versa

i was using steam versions of blender, went to export to unity, and it screwed the textures

i think i meshed it all together

[nimble hull]

yeah depending on what you do blender wont automatically setup textures for you in unity because were talking about completely different paths to where you store your image files and what not

[bold ibex]

ah, gotcha

but it 100% is doable right

like

i wont waste 30 hours

[nimble hull]

its tedious but ultimately trivial to just set up the materials yourself in unity

y e s.

of course its doable

[bold ibex]

well like i said its easier to do some things in blender over unity

there are cut tools and stuff like that

[nimble hull]

well if were talking about modeling, thats the idea. after all, unity isnt an asset creation tool, its a game engine

[bold ibex]

yeah thats what im talking about

pretty much going to be modeling a whole shlew of stuff

[nimble hull]

youre not really supposed to make entire worlds in unity with primitives unless you are insane (or making a roblox obby)

[bold ibex]

ohhh

that can explain

why

[nimble hull]

yeah

[bold ibex]

t h a n k s

[nimble hull]

0u0

yeah youll be fine

just replair your materials in unity, use standard shader, and remember to properly set the resolution of your materials and apply crunch compression where necessary

[bold ibex]

oh yeah i guess i need to ask this, is it easy to upscale or downscale things if they are too large?

[bold ibex]

also wtf is all of that you just said

[nimble hull]

of course

[green lagoon]

like if folks make maps in unity it's more like they've cobbled-together modular map assets they made in blender

[nimble hull]

youll figure it out / learn about it through questions and what not as you go

[bold ibex]

so like if i wanted a couch, i make it in blender, export to unity and then put it in the map? not make the whole map in unity?

[nimble hull]

pretty much. of course it also depends on whether youre building for PC or for quest

[bold ibex]

PC

[green lagoon]

yeah pretty much

[worthy horizon]

probuilder to the rescue

[patent arch]

quick question, if there's documentation could y'all point me towards it for this? just starting on SDK 3.0 for worlds so im learning it now qwp''

if i wanted to have a particle system bind to every player when they spawn and emit when they move, how would i go about that? or is that less of a do-the-thing and more of an udon rabbithole? :o

[mystic tulip]

i need help. all videos show really low quality.

i'm trying to recreate porter robinson's nurture stage

i'm gona make it bigger but it's super crunchy

[hollow fjord]

probably the best place to ask

Anyone have a clue what's causing this to happen?

The white glow part that is

It only happens when baking with GPU, while when I'm baking with my CPU it's fine

I used to bake with GPU and didn't have this issue before until I reset the lighting settings and now it happens regardless of what I do

[gilded void]

First world, pretty proud of it tbh https://twitter.com/Spectral_Owl/status/1438051139493130244

Spectral Owl (@Spectral_Owl)

I recreated mission 10 from Ace Combat 04 to go with my AC7 avatars.

The Tango line is a vital line of defense for the Erusian forces on the eastern mainland․ Istas Fortress is a strategic foothold on that line․ #VRChat #ACECOMBAT #acecombat7

https://t.co/hzlVbLZ8AN

Twitter · Sep 15, 2021, 8:04 AM

[languid salmon]

whats the best way to reduce the file size of bakery lightmaps while still keeping them look nice?

should i enable crunch compression on them?

[kind leaf]

no, no crunch compression on lightmaps because it has weird side effects like blurring. If you want to reduce the size than the only option is giving away some quality. Its all in the resolution; a detailed lightmap is going to have a large file size. You cannot have 8k resolution in a 1k file size because it just doesnt work that way.

[desert python]

try downloading the video and reuploading its highest quality to a hosting site and play it from there

[languid salmon]

i just did a bake with bakery, everything turned out really nice, but i got these weird shadows on some of these walls

its not happening on all of the walls, only on some

[hoary juniper]

hi the latest sdk3 is broken?

when i get to builder window will be empy

the project is a fresh one from unity, i just dropped the sdk3 world

[desert python]

have you closed and reopened unity yet?

[hoary juniper]

yes

there are these errors on console

i tried to load udon example too, same result

[desert python]

try copy and paste that into google. ive never seen that

[hoary juniper]

i retryng with a new project

[odd wharf]

Check and see if you got the newest version

[hoary juniper]

how?

[odd wharf]

Look at the filename of the one you got and the one on the website

The version numbers are just dates

[hoary juniper]

on vrchat.com... just downloaded it now

[odd wharf]

Oh ok

Try redownloading

[hoary juniper]

yeah i am importing right now again

[odd wharf]

May have just been a bad import or bad download

[hoary juniper]

can you test it too?

[odd wharf]

I'm at school

[hoary juniper]

okie dokie

[odd wharf]

Programs just like to break sometimes

[hoary juniper]

ok import doe

[odd wharf]

It's fine now?

[hoary juniper]

i have to use release or dev one?

[odd wharf]

Wdym?

Release

I've never used dev

[odd wharf]

I assume if it's for the games developers or something

[hoary juniper]

now i open example world

oh work

[odd wharf]

I've never used that tbh

[odd wharf]

Click those

It does it for you

[hoary juniper]

i think i broken it because i imported the post-thing addon before

and messed the project

[odd wharf]

Those always show up

[odd wharf]

Just click the buttons and it'll fix it for you. It always does this

[hoary juniper]

yeah

i am building and test

[odd wharf]

Ok

Is this your first time?

[hoary juniper]

seem fine now

on the world, no i created a sdk2 world but one year ago

and use sdk3 avatars

[odd wharf]

Add me and once I'm done with school I'll help

[hoary juniper]

sure 🙂 you are so kindy

[odd wharf]

I like helping

That's how I learned. It's easier to learn from people helping then a tutorial

Especially for me cause I have some disabilities

[odd wharf]

Nice

I've personally never use the example world

But that probably will teach you some things

[hoary juniper]

yeah is usefull

[odd wharf]

I also use some plugins to help with making things

[hoary juniper]

you use sdk3 too?

[odd wharf]

Yes

I learned sdk2 but sdk3 is similar

So I use it cause it's better

But I use a plugin to do triggers easier

[hoary juniper]

you mean like events?

[odd wharf]

I'm gonna go. Gotta get back to doing school things

[hoary juniper]

push a button for light the room ecc

[odd wharf]

Yes

[hoary juniper]

okie ty for the help

❤️

[desert python]

welp. i did it. theres now a world where the textures are governed by the videoplayer lol

[odd wharf]

I've thought of just making stupid stuff but you are brave lol

Sounds cool tho if you get a colorful video

[desert python]

lol. well now that i did it. it kind of allows me to control world music and have animated walls and such

[desert python]

exactly

so my plan is to have all of the pick up items in the world be textured by 1 videoplayer. then the world itself, and a skybox videoplayer so the world size should really only be the mesh and lightmap data

so far, i only have the main world mesh as atlasing textures for one mesh is easier than atlasing 17 different meshes

however. with that being said : what are good programs/plugins that are good at atlasing stuff?

[steel sundial]

How to enable jumping on your own worlds? on some peoples worlds you can jump and others you cannot. Why is that and how do i change it.

[odd wharf]

The creator has to add a playermod thing

[desert python]

in the scene descriptor. theres a set of settings that determine them

[odd wharf]

By default there is no jumping

[toxic fulcrum]

Am I being dumb, or has the "VRC Url Input Field" script disappeared from the latest SDK? O.o

Can't find it for the life of me.

[desert python]

dont put a space

[desert python]

which sdk and version?

[toxic fulcrum]

VRCSDK3-WORLD-2021.08.11.15.16_Public
Unity 2019.4.29f1

Top screenshot is from a previous SDK.
This SDK doesn't seem to have that script anymore... which is kinda important for video players.

Old SDK has it right there.

New SDK, nowhere to be found. 🤔

[toxic fulcrum]

Sorted. In case anyone else runs into this issue... reimport did the trick, as per this:

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/migrating-from-2018-lts-to-2019-lts#empty-control-panel-or-missing-vrcurlinputfield

The script is back again. ¦3

[jade dune]

[bold ibex]

check your unity error console at the bottom, check for a long red bar with a red error, and click on it to open the unity console and see ALL the errors

[jade dune]

thx

[bold ibex]

we need to see ALL of these red errors in order to begin troubleshooting

[jade dune]

...

[bold ibex]

what version of unity and the sdk?

[jade dune]

2019.4.29f

sdk3 2021.08.11.15.16

[bold ibex]

I am not sure, you could manually make sure every gameobject in your scene has only one later ig

Too bad it didnt tell WHAT gameobject

[jade dune]

thx

[wheat abyss]

hey guys, im new to making worlds and using the world sdk3. i have a world i uploaded yesterday with a mirror toggle-- but apparentally it doesnt work for desktop users for some reason? only vr users can click the button

how do i fix this

[kind leaf]

A link to Cyans discord can be found at the the bottom of the page. https://github.com/CyanLaser/CyanTrigger

[south kite]

I cant search this channel to see if it's already been answered but I'm wondering if dynamic bone scripts work on objects uploaded to worlds

works in unity, not ingame so I figure it only works on avatars?

[woeful junco]

Hi. Newbie here. Very new. Could someone please tell me what scripts are allowed? Or is it just Udon and the built in scripts?

[green lagoon]

you can only use udon as far as what will upload

[woeful junco]

Thanks

[near escarp]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/whitelisted-world-components

[green lagoon]

but if you don't want to deal with visual scripting there's https://github.com/MerlinVR/UdonSharp

[woeful junco]

Thanks to both of you

[green lagoon]

and if you're wondering why the upload caveat you're more than welcome to use custom script to make editor extensions to help out your map building just you can't use it for handling stuff that goes in vrchat

[woeful junco]

Ok. Great

[green lagoon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml a big spreadsheet full of pre-existing vrchat prefabs and helpful editor extensions

[woeful junco]

Thanks again

[green lagoon]

and if you have any other questions feel free to ask

[pale marlin]

Was the unity version for sdk3 just updated to 2019.4.30f1 right now? And how do I update my world?

[green lagoon]

yes & basically just open the project in the new Unity version

[pale marlin]

Ahh okay. Thank you

[pale marlin]

Okay so I updated to the newer unity version, and now my video player, which I programmed myself, won’t play any videos. It always returns the error “PlayerError”. It was working with the same programming before I updated to the newer unity version. Is there anything I can do to fix it on my end, or do I literally just have to wait for the vr chat development team to make the unity video player compatible with the newer unity version again?

[green lagoon]

I think that's something on your end as they would have checked to make sure the vrchat video player Works Works before putting out the update

[pale marlin]

I don’t think it can be, because it was working fine with the same programming before the update.

[green lagoon]

well I suppose I could just hop in vrchat and see if all the other video players are okay

[pale marlin]

They might not have updated to the newer unity version yet though

They might still be using the older one

[kind leaf]

All the video players not updated would work 🙂 because those are 2018 or 2019.4.29 if that was the case. Make sure you dont have any missing udon behaviors.

[green lagoon]

the video player in my world is working fine and it's a 2018 World

[kind leaf]

^ I like that, needs a TiVo or something for housing the tv controls tho

[pale marlin]

like we said, 2018 worlds would work fine because it's not using the newer unity version

only worlds using the unity 2019.4.30f1 version would have the problem

[green lagoon]

give me a sec to go to one of those

[pale marlin]

I just checked, and I don't have any missing udon behaviors

[kind leaf]

Just a thought, update was changed, check to make sure its not set to none

[pale marlin]

what's not set to none?

[kind leaf]

The udon Behaviors have an update state, used to be manual or continuous, now they added none as well

[pale marlin]

ahh okay let me see

[pale marlin]

no it's not set to none

the video player itself is working. it's the video player graph assembly that allows the error text to be displayed on the screen

it's just that when playURL is used, it always generates PlayerError

even though the urls are all valid

wait a moment

one of my friends just told me the video player is working for him. I think it must have been my client at the moment or something

I'm so sorry for causing all this stress!

[green lagoon]

it's not a biggie glad to know it not something vrchat broke as that's one less thing for the developers to worry about

[rough abyss]

Is there a way to show the same image at all angles so when i put it over someones head no matter how they turn they will see the same image? Maybe I can use particle system or custom shader to achieve that?

[kind leaf]

That would be billboarding

[bold ibex]

This real or glitch?

[bold ibex]

Is that your world, or did someone else share that screenshot with you

someone might of went a bit funny with inspect element and copypasting :vrcflame: kek unless all those 103 visitors went there in the last few minutes and the game is freaking out calculating heat

[sullen notch]

Question, is there a way to have a UI for a video player that has selectable playlists to choose from? That way I can choose from a list of my common stuff i watch/listen to without having to copy/paste the URL every time?

[bold ibex]

I just took it when I was looking at my worlds

[nocturne crown]

im going to ask this in two channels because it falls under two categories but, what is a good shader to use for a vrchat world? My world is a lab so its mainly metal material

[green lagoon]

the standard Shader would be fine

as you don't have any need for toon shading

[nocturne crown]

ok thanks, ill prob just go in and out of testing it to make sure its not too metallic or too smooth

[green lagoon]

that would be determined by like your material parameters

[bold ibex]

is it still that high on heat after refresin the page now

if so ur world just to gud

[kind leaf]

Glitch, A private world isnt going to gather heat because it cant be found. Unless you managed to give the link to your private world out to 43m people and they all visited it in 10 seconds.

[raw vessel]

any way to add or change hotkeys for blender's 2.79 gizmo 3D manipulator for TRS so it will act like unity

here is what i want to have when i press some buttons on my keyboard:
E = T-translate
R = R-rotation
T = S-scale

[rough abyss]

How to make the Kill icon(particle system) not get blocked by the avatar?

[swift trench]

There allready is an among us map

And it's Bella popular

[rough abyss]

I know, I'm making one with other roles like sheriff/Jackal/Jester and increase maximum player to 20, since there will be no more update to the old among us map

[kind leaf]

That is the wrong attitude for game development. If we all thought that way we would have maybe a handful of games available to us. Imagine a world with one game from each genre only. ugh I couldnt live like that.

[swift trench]

Yeh but 2 of the same game on the same map

Imagine TF2 reposted somewhere connected to alt survers

[swift trench]

Fair enough

Implement the improvements to the original games in a port

[sturdy lynx]

@rough abyss What do you render the shader at?

[rough abyss]

I'm setting the material Shader to UI/Unlit/Detail, texture set to sprite(2D and Ui) and use that material on a particle system, whose render alignment set to 'view'

[sturdy lynx]

I'm thinking of Render Queue

So if you put it on a render queue that is the highest, https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Rendering.RenderQueue.html

Does that solve the issue?

[rough abyss]

let me try

i set it to 5000 but it still get blocked by the avatar

[bold ibex]

I think you would want the priority to be a low value, but high priority

thats typically how priority works in other stuff so i assume its the same here

so it being at 5000 is like the lowest priority and the highest value

[rough abyss]

Sounds really reasonable, I set Render Queue to 1000 and it get blocked by floors/walls, any things around

[bold ibex]

set the value to anything lower than 200

I see that render que value alot for materials on avatars so knowing that setting it below that would make it higher priority

[rough abyss]

set it to 100 and it's completely gone

[bold ibex]

really? hmm

[sturdy lynx]

Higher queue = render on top

Screenshaders use Queue 9999

[rough abyss]

I think render queue should be the solution but seems that 5000 didn't work out

[sturdy lynx]

Bump up those numbers

See if that helps

[rough abyss]

5000 is the max I can get

unity auto set to 5000 if I put anything larger than that

[median briar]

@rough abyss Not sure if you've solved this, but I think you might want to use a shader that lets you disable ZWrite.

--
Does anyone know if it's possible to get the player/server time in the context of an udon graph to compare against 24hrs to determine a toggle? (day/night, for example)

[errant beacon]

might be something for #udon-general? should def be able to get the OSTime though afaik

[median briar]

ah, that is more of an udon question isn't it... I'll take it over there (and will investigate OSTime) -- thanks

[hasty heron]

I know people have used mixcloud as a streaming service into VRC, as it is used by many DJs, but I can't seem to find a video player for VRC that doesn't think mixcloud is an invalid URL. I do have "untrusted urls" checked, so it is not stopping me at that point. most of the players I have tried will play twitch just fine, but I'm trying to switch over to mixcloud because of licensing stuff, and having no luck. Anyone able to suggest a video player that is known to work with mixcloud?

[desert python]

send example url? i have never heard of mixcloud nor is google giving me details

[hasty heron]

https://www.mixcloud.com/live/fundaypawpetshow

they cover your licensing, so you can legally stream music.

unlike twitch who seems to refuse to adopt such

[desert python]

and people have used this in game?

[hasty heron]

I seem to think they have.

else I was given incorrect info.

[desert python]

well in theory. any vrc videoplayer with avpro and untrusted urls should play the link

[hasty heron]

or maybe there is a backdoor url they are having to use

[desert python]

if not. you may need to get a direct link or legal link

[desert python]

yes - like direct hls

so what you can do is open this in a browser. open the inspector by right clicking and clicking inspect. then go to the network tab. and refresh the page and see if the raw direct link shows up and try that

[hasty heron]

I've tried that, but I'm not really seing anything useable exposed

[kind leaf]

can the video play mp3? reading over mixcloud, sounds like its nothing more than a broadcasting middle man for obscure/unknown artists. You make your own playlist and stream that which tells me there is nothing really direct to link. If there is a way to stream your spotify to a vrc world then it would be that method.

[errant beacon]

As long as it's a CDN/file hosting website where you can get the video file directly, you could play it in a VRChat video player with untrusted URLs enabled afaik

[hasty heron]

yeah I guess my issue is not being able to expose the direct link to the video. Unlike twitch/youtube that will automatically feed that out

[kind leaf]

ok so make sure you're wrapped up before exploring i didnt vet the site but savelink.info exposes the dl.
https://www.mixcloud.com/maxvibes/late-night-chill/
becomes
https://stream4.mixcloud.com/secure/c/m4a/64/2/9/7/5/ed77-859d-45b6-8f47-c9a825d0bf50.m4a?sig=JBcsl3MJd-d8aRtN_ZvFFw

unity doesnt support m4a though

[fallow mountain]

has anyone done a pizza tower world

[kind leaf]

like the game?

Or the Tower of Pisa made of Pizza 😛

[wary birch]

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[past monolith]

I'm working on a world for star gazing and I want a way to switch between the Northern and Southern hemisphere night sky, a sky box of the milky way and maybe a sky box labelling constellations but I don't have a clue how to do that I have tried using an inverted sphere but the textures look distorted when resizing the sphere

[odd wharf]

Try using a cube. I'm pretty sure that's what the skybox is in VRChat

[cosmic juniper]

So i'm trying to create a world for the first time and i'm having trouble figuring out how to get to "Show Control Panel"

[bold ibex]

What unity version?

sounds like u got the wrong one in the first place tbh

[cosmic juniper]

Someone just dmed me about it but thanks:)

[knotty basalt]

As a noob at world creation, what format should Blender export to for Unity?

[green lagoon]

fbx

[knotty basalt]

Ok. Thanks.

[wary birch]

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[final flame]

Hello, I wanted to ask something and it is that I am creating a world for vrchat but I get this error

[bold ibex]

no thats perfectly normal

just worry about the red errors

[final flame]

It is not letting me upload or test my map

or something, I don't know, I don't see any red errors

[final flame]

help please

[past monolith]

Are you in play mode?

[final flame]

No

[hidden wave]

After Unity finishes importing the SDK, check the Console window in unity to ensure there are no errors (click clear first). Most errors on initial import are related to running the wrong version of Unity, or other scripts conflicting with the SDK.
Won't this just get rid of the 6 errors in the console that I should be reporting?

[kind leaf]

install this and see what its debugger gives you. https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit
A) There is an issue it will point out.
B) Just installing it will force a re serialization and script refresh which might auto solve your issue.
I am assuming you have the correct Unity version and SDK to match.

[kind leaf]

No, clear only get rid of pre-errors or errors no longer being created or detected. If you press clear and the error goes away its not an error that would prevent an upload

[hidden wave]

ah ok
either way, it apparently turns out that my version of unity was somehow off by one day

[terse turtle]

Hey, super basic question but, how do I fix an infinite falling spawn point?

[errant beacon]

Add a collider component to your floor object o:

[terse turtle]

Thank you!

[cunning tide]

@last condor the player booths are way too spread out and far apart from each other in Better Uno, can't hear anyone on the other side of the room. My feedback is to bring everyone in closer so we can all hear each other very clearly and everyone interacts together more as a result.

[last condor]

Could look into making voices louder.

[low quest]

Almost done with my RV world

[cunning tide]

Yeah that's another option

[low quest]

Now if only I had a map to put it in

lol

[wispy stream]

I have the same problem. From VRChat SDK option, i can only see "Utilities" -> "Re-compile all program sources", "Clear Cache and PlayerPrefs" and "Udon Graph", but not the control panel.
I tried deleting all VRC-things from Registry Editor, as some website suggested, but it didn't fix it either.
Any ideas for this?

[kind leaf]

Unity 2019.4.30f1/latest sdk, no CP? Right click VRCSDK folder in the programs asset folder and select re-import. Still No CP? Restart Unity.

[wispy stream]

Still no control panel :/

[kind leaf]

No errors in your console?

[wispy stream]

Only from videoplayer, and one "Error: Could not load signature of VRC.SDK3.Components.MultipleDisplayUtilities:GetRelativeMousePositionForDrag due to: Could not load file or assembly 'UnityEngine.UI, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' or one of its dependencies. assembly:UnityEngine.UI, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null type:<unknown type> member:(null) signature:<none>"

I'm new with unity so I don't understand this.

[silent adder]

Does anyone know if SDK3 videoplayers are still able to make render textures that aren't Clamp?

even tho I change it, it'll be kinda forced into Clamp

It appears as Mirror in there, the shader works, but the texture as soon as it's a rendered texture from the videoplayer, becomes Clamp

It can be noticed to be actual Clamp, not Repeat, here. The shader works with any other texture, but the video output becomes Clamp for whatever reason

(Yes, the video in that case is being projected into the screenspace)

(additionally, am I posting this on the correct channel for something like this?)

[neon schooner]

I’ve asked this over in udon channel but does anyone know how to make volumetric clouds work in game?

[lone frost]

is there a decent Way to link to your world?

[kind leaf]

just login to vrchat.com navigate to your world and copy the address.

[kind leaf]

No, Volumetric anything uses the HD RP, we are limited to faux volumetric. Particles and transparent sprites/textures.

[rain reef]

hi im new to create worlds i wanted to put udon and try to place mirror but when i import UdonSharp_v0.20.3 i got a lot 🛑 red ! on my console ... anyone can help ? :3

[odd wharf]

Did you import SDK3 first?

[odd wharf]

Also you don't need Udon to place a mirror

It's just a prefab with the VRChat SDK

[lone frost]

thanks.

[rain reef]

i know but i try to import Lura'sSwitch_ver2.01(SDK3)_2019 ( button and mirror ) for better look

and nothing work ^^'

[odd wharf]

Did you import the VRChat SDK first?

[rain reef]

yea

[odd wharf]

And then UdonSharp?

[rain reef]

when i import udon sharp error everywhere

[odd wharf]

Did import anything else other than the SDK?

[rain reef]

i think u need to see the project 👉 👈 and i import sk3 first and anything else

i already post the project on public labs and all work but when i put the package for udon red error

[odd wharf]

Yes but after SDK3 you then imported UdonSharp?

[rain reef]

not directly

[odd wharf]

If something requires UdonSharp, you need to import UdonSharp before it

[rain reef]

i try to import first before the lura button and same problem

[odd wharf]

I've personally never used Lura Button so I don't know if that could maybe be the issue

[rain reef]

i got some issues with light and i understand nothing i change the skybox and i just don't get shadow like the first skybox

[odd wharf]

Did you make sure to click the generate lighting button?

[rain reef]

in unity there is multiple button and i never see this one ... in my memory ...

this ?

[odd wharf]

Yes

Don't do auto generate tho

Just click Generate Lighting

[rain reef]

the light is too powerfull xD

[odd wharf]

Turn down the settings

I gotta go

[rain reef]

thanks i try to fix this :3

[wary birch]

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[errant beacon]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/fake-glass

[wary birch]

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[errant beacon]

yw! c:

[sullen notch]

Question, if i publish a world to Quest, does that publish both for quest and PC? Or do i have to have to then switch back to publish for PC?

[desert python]

you have to switch back and update the pc version

[sullen notch]

I see. Just wanted to make sure Thanks!

[steel sundial]

Does Vrchat Support depth of field?

When i try to use it i get two Blurry Vertical lines on my hmd on my world, they go away when i disable it

This is all post processing btw

[errant beacon]

Depth of field in VR is a vv bad idea for stuff like that specifically lol

it can also get pretty sickening - you should also avoid postprocessing Ambient Occlusion

[steel sundial]

Any idea on the vertical lines tho?

like maybe if its affecting the ui Layer?

[errant beacon]

Issues with rendering that effect in VR

the solution is to just not use that unfortunately lol, DoF doesn't work well in VR

[steel sundial]

Ok, i've used it in the past and didn't have this issue before but oh well

[kind leaf]

delete SimpleActivatorMenu.cs

[kind leaf]

well one problem solved anyway. try restarting Unity

So what version of Unity and what version of the SDK3 are you using.

30f1 is for the latest

unity 2019.4.30f1 is the only one that will work with the latest sdk

[vernal marten]

I have decided to finally make a world!
I am baffled nobody has made the entire world from Okami in VrChat yet, so that's what I'm doing

[kind leaf]

gl 🙂

[vernal marten]

Yee

[kind leaf]

yes

yeah we switched to 30 on the 15th.

[dim veldt]

Looking for a spin the bottle table, and beer pong table tbat can be set up for udon

[kind leaf]

everything you need can be found here 🙂 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTP-eIkYLZh7pDhpO-untxy1zbuoiqdzVP2z5-vg_9ijBW7k8ZC9VP6cVL-ct5yKrySPBPJ6V2ymlWS/pubhtml#

damn that is odd, seemed to solve it above. Ied try re-importing the sdk now that the unity version is correct by right clicking the vrcsdk folder and selecting re-import. If that doesnt work i dunno, maybe install the toolkit and see if it sees anything in the debugger https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit

re-importing the sdk as I described should actually ensure all those are actually there. Whats the top of the error list look like?

lol sweet, was just about to tell you to send it to me 😛

[neon schooner]

Do you know of any good options? I’m trying to add something at least that can be flown through

[errant beacon]

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/fake-lights or https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/XSVolumetrics maybe? o:

Either add polygons to the underside of the stall facing in that has the same texture as the top, or use a double-sided shader

That model only has faces facing outwards on the roof, so you're looking at the backfaces of the roof, which aren't rendered

at least afaik, that model looks like it has no faces facing inwards on the roof

Either add faces facing inwards in Blender, or use a shader that supports double-sided textures

double-sided shaders can def be unoptimized though
not sure of any specific ones unfortunately, sorry o:

I know the Unity particle shader supports double-sided rendering, but that probably shouldn't be used on that stall lol

[surreal nebula]

Are cubemaps seamless?

[kind leaf]

yep, just use a fog particle effect, make it white and reduce its size while keeping its particle density. should give you realish clouds.

[errant beacon]

They can be yeah, but it depends on how the individual cubemap is set up

[surreal nebula]

Going to export one from space engine so I hope its seamless

[merry imp]

can i get some help with teleportation?
it wont allow me to wire the game object to get position and get rotation.

[mild spade]

GetPosition needs a transform instance. You can get the transform from the game object

[hoary juniper]

Question: how I make a avatar piedistal usable by only certain people?

[bold ibex]

I dont believe thats really possible but I might be wrong

[hoary juniper]

I see some avatar that are "reserved"

And you are unable to interact with these

[kind leaf]

you check for local player's display name and if it equals what you have setup as authorized then allow interaction

[hoary juniper]

I think players have uuud too

[errant beacon]

on interact > is name (string)? if yes > change avatar

might be something for #udon-general though c:

[bold ibex]

udon peoples would know

[kind leaf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/l9y96w/how_to_check_for_player_name/

[hoary juniper]

https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_86b2da18-bd06-46c5-8898-57a0bc6b62df

Example this

As you can see it have Id

Usr_blabla

Checking name is useless

[kind leaf]

the fuck it is, i check names for access

[hoary juniper]

Kevbal like Minecraft uuid

So if he change name he will still have access

[kind leaf]

well ask in #udon-general maybe someone has something overly complicated to use instead 🙂

[hoary juniper]

That script is a start :)

[barren ice]

Does anyone know what this issue means or know how to fix it? This is the first time I have ever seen this before.

[bold ibex]

The one you have selected and the one above it are indicators of other errors, and the remaining 2 errors are telling you exactly whats wrong

I am not sure how to make those scripts have permission to write though

[barren ice]

The top two I know what they are, the bottom two are the ones I'm confused on

[bold ibex]

Oh then fix the top 2 and the other 2 will go away

they are caused by OTHER errors

[barren ice]

Gotcha

[wary birch]

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[sturdy lynx]

There are prefabs for it, If you want to create your own you can look into particle system videos and create rain from that

[stone marsh]

Leviant has a GPU particle rain prefab on his Patreon for the $25 tier.

[kind leaf]

Or follow a youtube tutorial since they all use the same standard assets.

[stone marsh]

Not GPU particles lol xP

[kind leaf]

You are aware that to get from cpu to gpu is a toggle and a shader right? 😉

[stone marsh]

You're misunderstanding what GPU particles are

Also misunderstanding GPU instancing >.>

Then your statement doesn't make any sense....

[kind leaf]

The premises of the GPU Particle system has always been rooted in GPU instancing, you can download a git for free.

[dusk sapphire]

when people refer to gpu particles they usually mean a shader that handles rendering all the particles itself, and doesn't use unity's particle system at all

[stone marsh]

indeed. GPU particles typically rely on a CRT/Camera or less commonly, a GrabPass.

GPU instancing is done on meshes, and can only be used on particle systems that use a mesh

One uses Camera/CRT with a custom shader, the other uses the unity particle system

GPU Particles are typically much more performant, especially for something like rain, where you want to generate a large amount of particles, and also frees up CPU resources which tend to be more valuable for other logic. Thus why I made the suggestion. It's an asset that's not going to be setup by a normal user following a tutorial as that requires learning how to write shaders, and it results in higher quality rain with less overhead typically. No fanboy sale persuasions, just sharing knowledge of a well made asset that anyone is free to decide if they want or not. cheers

[royal onyx]

im trying to make a trigger for my mirror off a tutorial but game activate isn't popping up in udon

[kind leaf]

just a basic local toggle. nothing special. Can be used with any gameobject.

[dusk sapphire]

delete that script in the error

unity never updated standard assets for unity 2019 so theres 1 or 2 scripts in there thats not compatible with unity 2019

but its safe to delete the script in question as its not used by any prefab to my knowledge

author mentions this in the booth page

SDK 2 version
* If an error occurs in the Standard Assets script in Unity 2019, please refer to the following and delete the corresponding script.
https://twitter.com/394VR/status/1423483850454298625
https://www.sbcr.jp/support/48965/
Specifically, delete ForcedReset.cs and SimpleActivatorMenu.cs in Assets / Standard Assets / Utility. 

(translated)

[graceful quiver]

im using the sdk3 but i JUST found a youtube tutorial .. thank ya

[dusk sapphire]

if you're on sdk3 then you don't need standard assets, its for sdk2 only

[royal onyx]

where is logs/packages-upgrade.log?

[kind leaf]

not sure about upgrade maybe try just the package manager log.
this link explains how to get to each available unity log on each OS platform https://docs.unity3d.com/2019.3/Documentation/Manual/LogFiles.html

[royal onyx]

hey wait, how and where is the world spawn

cause whenever i launch it i just fall through the world

[kind leaf]

The scene descriptor contains your spawn definition, usually set as the object the scene descriptor is attached to. But if you followed a tutorial some of them are weird with their setup.

Find the scene descriptor in your hierarchy (it is a component) and if the spawn says its itself then just verify that it is above the ground level and your ground has a collider

[royal onyx]

i see, how could i make a basic music toggle on undon btw?

[kind leaf]

I dont work with graphs only in U#/C# the few graphs I have written for tutorial purposes wont help. you can try this video its only 10 months old so it should be accurate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNzx5-OZo3c

[pastel beacon]

Guys, while creating a world, what affects the shaders on avatars? My avatars seem to look horrible only in my world

[kind leaf]

Light probes 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E0JXOZDTKA

[pastel beacon]

Hmmm that changed nothing other than made the shadows that were already there disappear

Static objects now don't even cast shadows

And it still doesn't change how bad the avatars look

[kind leaf]

sounds like you have compound issues. Light probes are how you make dynamic objects receive an appropriate amount of light from a baked scene so if probes are not fixing your issue its not that you dont need probes, its something else. If you try lighting players with realtime light you are going to see polarizing effects depending on the players angle.

so unity has a neat function that matches the suns position on a procedural skybox with the light source provided in the light settings. So if you create a sphere large enough to surround your build and place a light source top center facing down, disable the mesh renderer for the sphere and rotate it, the sun moves. If the sun rotated under the build it becomes night time. This can be automated with a simple rotation script/graph.

^ you end up with perfect smooth transitioning day/night cycles fully automated.

Using an animation? I know mine only worked when scripted. This wont work if you have baked lighting btw.

Baked lighting requires some UdonSharp as I don't think Udon can handle Lightmap switches. The baked method means you need to create a lightmap for each time of the day and setup a loop to rotate through them.

So you have a single directional light and it is also setup as the sun source in the light settings correct? If you script the light to move it gets finicky, I scripted the sphere to move and the light was a child of the sphere.

Also need to make sure the sphere is rotating in a manor that would simulate a sun set sun rise and not moving about. Should beable to test that in unity. After that I am all out of suggestions 🙂

[dusk sapphire]

if you're referring to the environment lighting settings under the lighting tab you can access them via Udon under RenderSettings
https://docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/RenderSettings.html

[kind leaf]

kinda curious what the original tags were 😛

[sturdy lynx]

They are still there

[desert python]

what is this?

[sturdy lynx]

Only people that had the world in FAV can go in it.

Nobody else can

[desert python]

what world is it?