world-development

[quaint creek]

please @ me

[fast python]

I uploaded my first world to labs and within 30 seconds had 6 visitors

VRC algorithm go brr

[fast python]

So got a question

I want a completely black skybox, but want to keep the lighting of the default skybox

How do I do this

[worn elk]

Is there currently a way to implement a third person camera on Udon worlds? A friend of mine had one, but they are not on Udon yet. The only tutorials I can find seem to be for a third person camera on avatars

[near escarp]

Flipped normals sphere with a black texture

[fast python]

I did that but in the optimized mirror it still shows the default skybox

[random owl]

Move the sphere to a layer that the optimised mirror can see

[fast python]

I am so new to worlds

How do I do that

[random owl]

https://docs.unity3d.com/2018.4/Documentation/Manual/Layers.html
For VRChat you can't change the layers VRChat has setup for you but anything after 21 you can name and use for your own things if the default layers don't serve the purpose you want
And the mirror component itself has the selector to set which layers are visible

[eternal summit]

how do i set mirrors off when spawing into world

[random owl]

You just turn off the gameobject in editor

[eternal summit]

like in vr trigger script

[random owl]

You just turn the gameobject off

[eternal summit]

thank you

[fast python]

Also I have another question

How can you set up a mirror toggle button?

I have the mirror and buttons in my scene

[eternal summit]

drop a object and add a trigger script

toggle mirror

[fast python]

I don't get this stuff

I set it up like this but the button does nothing in game

Like I can't even interact with it

[random owl]

#udon-general for getting help with Udon, and I don't see you having a collider on that gameobject.

[fast python]

That would probably explain that

[quaint creek]

Hey all dose anyone know how to stop my texture from stretching when i put it on my walls and floors
please @ me

[near escarp]

Make good UVs

or change the tiling

[fast python]

Made some spiffy buttons for mirrors and music. Getting the hang of this stuff now!

[random owl]

I love how you differentiate the LQ and HQ mirror looks very personal compared to most people's first world with just unity cubes for buttons

[green lagoon]

I know that's so cute and it visually demonstrates what it does

[fast python]

Thanks haha. Now just gotta figure out how to make them have a click sound when activated

[green lagoon]

that I don't know off the top of my head but it's doable

[fast python]

Yeah a friend of mine has that in his world and he collabed the world with me, so may just have to take a peek 👀

[bold ibex]

Good choice, but it seems that this is not suitable for my map,my map uses Lura'sSwitch to control the mirror

[fast python]

If you look in the Udon help channel, you can see my pain in setting these up 😅

[bold ibex]

It’s like this, but there doesn’t seem to be a music switch in this Lura’s Switch

[fast python]

Ohh yeah I've seen a lot of worlds that use those

Mine are fully custom (model, texture, udon) so I have a little more freedom I guess

Also how long does labs last?

In it's first 6 hours it has had over 200 visits and 4 favorites

[bold ibex]

I think we might need more visits or collections. My map has 155 visits and 9 collections so far, as you know, sometimes people will only see the latest map of the laboratory

[bold ibex]

I'm going to you're map it's good

[near escarp]

Very simple to do audio on click

[bold ibex]

Yes, you only need to put your content here to use

But it seems that most maps use these

[fast python]

How do you do it?

[bold ibex]

I try to improve this bed, because it seems that some problems before, but now fixed

[tardy ridge]

They looks lovely awwww 0w0

[tardy ridge]

Aww that's beautiful

Btw I've seen many worlds have this button set, may I ask where to get this button set? I mean the middle one that adjust the lightness.

😅

[tardy ridge]

Hi there, i love your button design, If you don't mind we can friend each other discord and I can show you how to do audio on click, Or any other fancy stuff you may interestes. UwU,

❤️

[fast python]

Sure, but I'm about to get to bed though

[bold ibex]

You can going to booth and search VRC_Starterkit

[fast python]

It's close to 5 AM for me

[tardy ridge]

Omg that's in starter kit?

[bold ibex]

Yes

[tardy ridge]

xD i never thought..... Oh wow okay, i will check it out, thank you so much.

😂

[tardy ridge]

Ouch, go to bed already, sleeping too late is bad for puro's health xD.

[fast python]

I am aware -w-

[tardy ridge]

@fast python I've sent you friend request, take a good rest and talk to you later. UwU

[near escarp]

SDK2 or SDK3 ?

[bold ibex]

But Ruuubick, do you know how to solve this problem? My VRCCam doesn’t match the light effect of my map.,i don’t seem to find anything wrong

[near escarp]

It's not the reference camera for the post processing

[lost roost]

will this error code prevent me from uploading my world?

https://gyazo.com/8d3e08623b95e92c1e87124b18eb69d5

[near escarp]

yeah

[lost roost]

how does one fix this

[near escarp]

probably want to delete the post processing folder

[lost roost]

ahh

haha it was that simple xD

[tawdry dew]

I put a hot tub in my world but dont know how to add water in it, can anyone point me in the right direction?

[near escarp]

you'd need to make a piece of flat mesh inside the hot tub, and apply a water shader on it

you can easily make a plane and scale it so that it fits

[bold ibex]

Where should I put it?

[near escarp]

Your VRCCam also needs the post processing stack, same as your reference camera

[tawdry dew]

Okay, I will try this, thank you!

[bold ibex]

I solved this problem myself, but thank you for your help

[tawdry dew]

I got an error message when I went build & publish, then unity closed, and when I re-opened it, there was no longer a control panel. Yikes. I wonder what happened. Anyone know?

[gaunt minnow]

How do i keep pickups from being taken outside of a certain room?

[cursive seal]

I dont know how simple this is, but I have a question. Is it possible to have a trigger in world toggle the emission setting on a material? If not, is there a way to have a trigger replace one material for another on all objects with that material (replacing the one with the emission with the one without)?

[leaden hazel]

You could use an animator and animation which you then set off using a simple parameter toggle from Udon.

I'm doing this in a world I'm building right now as part of an animated lighting sequence triggered when the player presses a control.

[cursive seal]

Well, My world is still SDK2

[leaden hazel]

Oh well, I don't know, I've never touched SDK2

Sorry about that. I don't know what is and isn't possible with triggers.

I was thinking trigger as in the more generic sense of something being triggered via some method :X

[idle jolt]

I have an audio source in my world for music, but whenever I turn around the music gets quieter. I have the spacial blend set to 3D. Should I set it to 2D instead?

[idle jolt]

Maybe try setting up invisible walls that players can pass through but objects cannot? That, or have the wall have a trigger where if it detects an object it’ll respawn said object.

[leaden hazel]

Yes, music and such should be 2D unless its diegetic (appearing to come from an audio source in world such as a music player, instrument, speakers, etc) or its very encompassing (like background music in a shopping centre which you can't go outside from so its pumped in equally everywhere from many speakers)

[idle jolt]

Alright, that’s for the tip

[fast python]

SDK3

[near escarp]

Ah

Nevermind then, a bit complicated

[brisk spear]

hey guys anyone know why i am unable to build and test when i build for windows or android it works fine but when i try to just test it doesn't work any one know why?

[fast python]

I can think of a way, but it would require timing which I don't know how to do with Udon

[near escarp]

https://youtu.be/YuWbH5c9CBI

[unkempt mauve]

The VR World Toolkit isn't working in my project.

[near escarp]

Are you using the latest SDK ?

[unkempt mauve]

yes

[near escarp]

What are the errors in your console ?

[unkempt mauve]

alot of different ones

[near escarp]

Screenshot ?

[unkempt mauve]

ill send a screenshot

yes

the VRCSDK won't work either

[worn elk]

Is there currently a way to implement a third person camera on Udon worlds? A friend of mine had one, but they are not on Udon yet. The only tutorials I can find seem to be for a third person camera on avatars

[near escarp]

@unkempt mauve

[unkempt mauve]

Thanks!

It works now

[idle jolt]

Do animated objects not have a mesh collider, or did I just put it on incorrectly?

[near escarp]

What are you trying to do ?

[idle jolt]

I want to be able to climb on top of a moving truck. Should I just put a teleporter connected to the truck and the end point on top of the truck?

[near escarp]

Ah, moving colliders can't really move the player that way, so not sure how you'd do it

[idle jolt]

Ah...
Maybe I could get rid of the animation then. They’re not traditional trucks. They’re from Star Wars and hover. Think it’d look okay if they were stationary?

[near escarp]

You could make an animation for them to hover up and down/side to side slightly, and have a separate collider that doesn't move

[amber heart]

So random question that I feel is a easy fix. I don't know what this error is

[unkempt mauve]

@random owl When I use the VRWorld Toolkit v1.11.2, it doesn't give me the option to use the World Debugger.

was it taken out?

[near escarp]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/wiki/Fixing-Build-Problems

[near escarp]

You have no more console errors ?

[idle jolt]

Does it let you test triggers in unity and other stuff?

[near escarp]

That's cyanemu

https://github.com/CyanLaser/CyanEmu

[idle jolt]

That’s what it’s called
Okay thank you

[unkempt mauve]

nope

[idle jolt]

I meant to download it but I forgot

[near escarp]

Can you show the whole unity screen with the toolkit opened ?

[unkempt mauve]

@near escarp

[amber heart]

Does this apply to sdk3?

I am not using Udon but just the sdk

[near escarp]

Udon is the sdk

[amber heart]

well I mean like none of the technical stuff like triggers and stuff like that

[near escarp]

Yeah, SDK2 = triggers, SDK3 = Udon

If it's imported in your project, you have it

[amber heart]

Okay well then I guess i am using Udon. Does the Link you sent apply to Udon stuff because i read a little and only saw sdk2

[near escarp]

Depends what's in your project, if it's just Udon then it should work by default

[amber heart]

I didn't add anything besides the things I wanted in the world and then like shader stuff

[unkempt mauve]

@near escarp This is all that it shows for me

[near escarp]

Check your console for errors then

[near escarp]

Might wanna try reimporting it then ?

then close unity and restart

[unkempt mauve]

ok

[amber heart]

When I go to upload it there are no errors. it gave me the same error I sent before.

then after I click okay it gives me errors that if I click clear, they just go away

[idle jolt]

So I downloaded CyanEmu, and now I can’t enter play mode? I deleted it and I don’t have the same issue...

Did I import it wrong?..

[near escarp]

What are those errors ?

[near escarp]

Are you using the latest SDK ?

[amber heart]

I figured out it has something to do with one of the shaders I have I am currently trying to see if I can upload it with it if not then i will need something different for water

[unkempt mauve]

I reimported it and it still didn't come up

[near escarp]

Even after restarting ?

Anything in your console ?

[near escarp]

Shaders can definitely cause issues

[amber heart]

Yeah does anyone have nice Shaders I can use for water cause the one I am using is defenatly the problem

[unkempt mauve]

Just this, but I don't think it has anything to do with it.

[near escarp]

Silent water shader 2.0, on her booth

[near escarp]

Any error is enough to cause menus to not appear properly

Especially if it's spammed like that

[unkempt mauve]

How should I go about fixing it? Is there a way?

[near escarp]

I've never seen this error before, so some googling would be required

[unkempt mauve]

Ok

[idle jolt]

2021.3.22.18.27 right?

[near escarp]

VRCSDK2-2021.06.03.14.57_Public.

[idle jolt]

Oh

Got it and it still has the same issue

[unkempt mauve]

How do I fix a skybox thats upsidedown?

[near escarp]

What's your unity version ?

[near escarp]

upside down ?

[idle jolt]

2018.4.20f1

[bold ibex]

flip your world upside down to match 😄

[idle jolt]

Go to Australia, lol

[near escarp]

What are the console errors you're seeing ?

[idle jolt]

Give me a sec

So a big one is about namespace called PostProcessing not existing in the namespace called UnityEngine.Rendering

[near escarp]

#rules 9 please

[near escarp]

Did you import post processing in your project ?

[idle jolt]

Nope. Never messed with it.

[near escarp]

That's the only error ?

[idle jolt]

Yup

[near escarp]

From a blank project with the SDK and CyanEmu ?

[idle jolt]

No, this is for my latest world I’m making

[unkempt mauve]

@near escarp

[near escarp]

Yeah i've never seen that, i guess flip the image of the skybox

[unkempt mauve]

🤷‍♂️

[idle jolt]

I did try to import a unity asset from unity to make a scrolling shader, and ever since I’ve had to wait forever for unity to compile shader variants so maybe it had to do with that

[near escarp]

Yeah, i'd try removing things you don't need

[idle jolt]

I did remove it, but ever since it’s done that

[near escarp]

You removed the whole folder ?

[idle jolt]

I ended up downloading a custom shader from a website that is actually supported on quest to get the scrolling

If you’re talking about Cyan yes

[near escarp]

You wouldn't have to remove cyanemu

You should remove random shaders that you got from random websites

any shader can do scrolling on quest worlds

[idle jolt]

Oh the other thing. I downloaded it from within the unity program.

It was an official asset

[near escarp]

Did it support unity 2018 ?

If not you most likely corrupted your project until it's removed entirely

[idle jolt]

It didn’t seem to, so I just got rid of it.

The compiling shaders thing has gotten noticeably quicker every time I make a new build, so I think I’ll be good

[near escarp]

You should close unity, open the project file, delete the library folder and reopen unity

[unkempt mauve]

Where do I find the Unity logs with the errors on my C: drive?

[fast python]

Retro sprite shader is so fun

[unkempt mauve]

I'm getting alot of errors from CyanEmu

[fast python]

I dunno what that even is

[unkempt mauve]

It's a VRC unity package

[fast python]

Ah gotcha

The only Unity emulator I've ever used is Lyuma

[unkempt mauve]

I've never used that either

[unkempt mauve]

#world-development message

[fast python]

It's basically an avatar emulator that allows you to test toggles and animations in Unity

[unkempt mauve]

cool

[fast python]

Also I love how that emulator you're trying to figure out is a Sonic Colors reference lol

[unkempt mauve]

👌

[near escarp]

You sure you got the latest SDK ?

[unkempt mauve]

the latest is 2021.06.03.14.57, right?

[near escarp]

Yep, as well as latest CyanEmu i assume ?

Did you delete the library folder after closing Unity ?

[burnt pilot]

anyone know what this error means and how to fix it? Assets\Editor\x64\Bakery\scripts\ftPreview.cs(763,35): error CS1061: 'ftLightmapsStorage' does not contain a definition for 'debugTex' and no accessible extension method 'debugTex' accepting a first argument of type 'ftLightmapsStorage' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

[unkempt mauve]

I only deleted the package through the asset folder.

[near escarp]

which package ?

[fast python]

Hey Ruuubick got a question for ya when you're done helping him

[near escarp]

https://discord.gg/g7KDnWu2

[near escarp]

I'm never done helping so go ahead

[fast python]

So one of my assets simply doesn't show up on Quest, but the collider is there

Specifically the tree I JUST posted about

[near escarp]

It appears on PC ?

[fast python]

Yes

[near escarp]

You tried with standard shader ?

[unkempt mauve]

The CyanEmu package

[fast python]

It wouldn't work with standard shader

It's a sprite

[near escarp]

Import the package again then

[fast python]

Can Quest not use the Retro Sprite shader?

[near escarp]

i know, but then you'll know if it's a shader issue or not

Not everything will work on Quest, different type of build

[fast python]

Seems to be one according to Unity

[unkempt mauve]

delete the Library folder and every in it to?

[fast python]

When checking the shader when build target is android, it just shows an empty shader

[near escarp]

just delete the library folder

[unkempt mauve]

ok

[near escarp]

Yeah i wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't android compatible

[fast python]

I have an idea as to why it's not compatible

[near escarp]

afaik error doesn't make any quest content

[fast python]

It doesn't use PNGs or standard image files

It uses texture arrays

[unkempt mauve]

and reimport the CyanEmu package to?

[near escarp]

after yeah

[unkempt mauve]

ok

[fast python]

Do you know of any other shaders that can face the viewer that ARE quest compatible?

I can think of one janky way off the top of my head

[near escarp]

Could just be a particle

[fast python]

That was the janky way I was thinking of

But the only problem with that

This shader only faces you left to right

If you view it from above it's flat

I think a particle would follow up and down too

[near escarp]

You can limit particle to horizontal billboarding iirc

[fast python]

Looks like we have a winner then

I gotta head out for a little but I'll try that when I get back

WAIT WAIT

I just remembered

particle + mirrors is never a good mixture in my experience

Will it look desynced in the mirror?

[near escarp]

I'm not aware of those issues sorry

[fast python]

Ah

Basically, if you parent a particle with a simulated space set to world, it will desync in mirrors

Or at least on avatars

[green lagoon]

then maybe just make your architectural design so you don't have any of those in the mirror room

[fast python]

I think it could work considering the issue with the particles on avatar has to do with the ik rendering

[proven oracle]

Hey Ruubick, Can I ask you a question? I haven't worked much with Occlusion and such. I was wondering does Occlusion areas/portals work with mirrors? I've set it up which seems correct, but how ever everything is still getting picked up by the mirror.

[near escarp]

What do you mean by "work with" ?

[unkempt mauve]

@near escarp I deleted the Library folder and everything in the scene is gone and more errors

[near escarp]

Do you have an avatar in your scene or something ?

Try loading your scene file

[unkempt mauve]

No, it was a world

[near escarp]

Welp, your skinned mesh objects are having a stroke then

[random owl]

If you delete the library folder it closes the scene you were in last you need to reopen it

[unkempt mauve]

ok

@random owl #world-development message

[random owl]

Looking back you had a bunch of compile errors did you fix those?

[unkempt mauve]

I don't know how to fix errors 🤷‍♂️

maybe some were fixed by doing certain things with the project.

[random owl]

Would need to see what errors you have now after pressing clear once

[unkempt mauve]

These are the last errors I had after deleting the Library folder.
#world-development message

Is there a file of logs I could send you?

[random owl]

None of those those look like compile errors, did you press clear in the console?

[unkempt mauve]

I think...

[random owl]

It doesn't look like you did

So I can't really say anything from that screenshot

[unkempt mauve]

The current errors I have now aren't clearing. there errors about CyanEmu

[bold ibex]

Can you roll back a project in this version of unity? I imported an asset from the store, the developer said it should still work. It wanted to download a dependency to work. Now the whole project is bricked with errors and none of the vrc sdk will work. Boo.

[random owl]

Well then remove cyanemu and see what errors remain after

[unkempt mauve]

ok

[random owl]

What are the errors

You can't really permanently brick a unity project

[bold ibex]

I'll have to gather them, there are several hundred of varying types. I didn't save the project after importing that asset and closed it out but I guess it auto saved or something.

[random owl]

Press clear once and show some examples

Doesn't really need to be all of them to get started

[fast python]

My world has been out for a little under 24 hours and already has 66 favorites :))

[bold ibex]

I'd send you the errors but now the world is only a preview cube and nothing else. It all turned pink then vanished.

[near escarp]

[unkempt mauve]

No errors after removing cyanemu

[random owl]

And is the SDK and VRWorld Toolkit working normally now?

[unkempt mauve]

No, same options as before with the VRWorldToolKit

[bold ibex]

I should've just uploaded it, all I wanted was some bottles hahah

[random owl]

The buttons in your screenshot would look like you don't have the vrcsdk scripting define in the project or don't have the vrcsdk in the project at all

[unkempt mauve]

I haven't imported it yet

[random owl]

Well yeah then things that depend on the VRCSDK to function will not work and will either error out or not appear

[unkempt mauve]

Gotcha! 😆

I didn't know that.

[near escarp]

#world-development message

Could have been avoided an hour ago lol

[bold ibex]

Well I removed some rider package that removed like 400 errors. Now there are only 6 left. Although I'm not even sure if it's worth it since my entire project disappeared except the camera and directional light.

This is all that's left after importing that incompatible asset.

[random owl]

SDK3 uses Udon and not triggers #udon-info

[unkempt mauve]

Yes 😆

[random owl]

That sounds like the scene you were working on got closed and you need to just reopen it

[random owl]

You can close Unity and delete the Library/PackageCache folder in the project folder and then reopen

[unkempt mauve]

There should be some kind of Unity Error Log Scanner so you know what's causing the error.

[bold ibex]

I tried, still just the camera and light.

Well I got rid of all the errors, vrc sdk works after importing it. Just everything I created is gone forever. Blah, only another 150 hours to re create it hahaha 😦

[short gulch]

It's probably saved in a different scene file

[bold ibex]

I Can't find it. It all turned pink then disappeared and wasn't there after reopening unity

[near escarp]

yeah, a scene file

[bold ibex]

all the assets and everything are gone, but I'm not sure where this scene file would have went

[near escarp]

your assets are gone ? What did you delete ?

[random owl]

Just filter by scene from here at the top of the assets toolbar

[bold ibex]

I imported an asset from the unity store. It wanted to download some 'dependencies' then threw 500 errors. Closed out unity. Reopened, nothing worked. The whole world turned pink. Unity crashed. And all was gone when reopened it.

[random owl]

If you never made your own scene it's gonna be in Assets/Scenes/SampleScene.unity

[bold ibex]

The assets folder is empty. 😦

[random owl]

Quite confused how your assets folder ended up completely empty

[bold ibex]

Me too.

[fast python]

Why are particles horrible

I just want this tree to follow my view without detaching from the ground 😔

[short gulch]

Set it to horizontal billboard

[fast python]

I did

It breaks

And gets super tiny when you get close to it

Also it floats away when you look at it from the corner

Far

Close

[random owl]

You need to change the max particle size in the renderer component of the particle system

[fast python]

I did

It also still slides away when looked at from the corner of your eye

[random owl]

If you don't want it to ever get smaller getting close you would need to set it to 2 or more possibly

But I also wouldn't use a particle system most likely for that effect and instead a quad with the texture applied on it and possibly a shader that rotates with the view point

[fast python]

Tried that

The shader wasn't Quest compatible

[random owl]

Why wasn't it quest compatible? You wouldn't really want to use any overly complicated shader for something like that.

[fast python]

Also my particle isn't showing up in the mirror now 🥲

[fast python]

I dunno, it just turned invisible when tested

[random owl]

Default particles don't really show up in mirrors because they always face the players camera while being single sided

So if you look into a mirror it's facing away from the mirror

You would need to use a particle shader that is double sided

[fast python]

Uhhh

I'm using unlit transparent rn I think?

What shaders are double sided?

Oh wait got one

Now we got another issue though

It isn't actually mirrored in the mirror

[unkempt mauve]

#world-development message

[fast python]

OR wait

Yes it is

Because it's the same on both sides?

[random owl]

You have a lot of requirements right now that get complicated pretty fast and would need a bunch of custom implementations

[fast python]

This works

I think my brain forgot how mirrors work for a second

[short gulch]

Lookin good 👍

[fast python]

Hopefully this doesn't cause any issue lol

[unkempt mauve]

the VRWorld Toolkit is showing Current project not detected

🤷‍♂️

[random owl]

Do you have a scene descriptor or a avatar descriptor in the scene?

Might have gotten the logic for that part a bit wrong

But if you have a descriptor it should work fine

[unkempt mauve]

That's probably why 😆

[fast python]

My grand plan worked muahahahaha

I uploaded a world, got a lot of visitors, now I got Trusted User 😎

[unkempt mauve]

@random owl I added VRCWorld prefab to the scene and fixed layers, and still nothing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[random owl]

Can you show a screenshot?

[random owl]

No idea how that is happening but I guess I'll just send you a version with a possible fix

[frosty goblet]

Does anybody know what could be wrong with a building model that would cause lighting artifacts like these? https://i.imgur.com/eZcuKPW.png

You see them from pretty far away too https://i.imgur.com/VpR9sEm.png

[near escarp]

what are your light settings ?

[zenith flame]

Is it possible to create an object that allows objects to pass through but not players? I want to create a barrier that stuff can be thrown past, but not crossed by players

[random owl]

https://docs.unity3d.com/2018.4/Documentation/Manual/LayerBasedCollision.html

[zenith flame]

Thanks!

[fast python]

Heya could I get an opinion on something?

The room that my world is based off of is very cluttered and I plan on replicating all the clutter

That begs the question, where should the mirror buttons go?

I had them on the left wall, but now the dead bush obscures them

[near escarp]

Fix the console errors you have and it'll be back

[raw glacier]

need help on post processing

Im making a world that has bloom. I set up the layers and stuff needed to make pp work properly in vrchat. When setting up bloom, Unity is normal and sees bloom. However, when doing a test build, Bloom gets disabled. All my other effects like chromatic aberration is not affected

bug only affects bloom

any idea why this might be happening?

[fast python]

I need some particle help

When the particle faces me in the game, it also faces me in the mirror

Now I know I could add a back sprite, but then walking up to the mirror would show the back sprite too since it's still facing the same direction

Is there any way to make it face the player object instead of facing the player's view?

[near escarp]

Did you set your reference camera in the world descriptor ?

[fast python]

Ruuubick do you have any idea how I could solve my problem?

[raw glacier]

I hope this isnt the reason lol

let me set it

...it worked

[near escarp]

[tawdry dew]

hey, how can i detach the blueprint from my world? I know how to do it for avis but don't see the option on the world i am building?

[near escarp]

It's the same process

vrcworld prefab > detatch ID

[tawdry dew]

i dont have a prefab though, i am making this world from scratch

is that under file?

[near escarp]

the vrcworld prefab is the first thing you should add to your scene

Don't manually add the components for the world descriptor & cie

[tawdry dew]

ohhhhh that thing

i thought that just determined the spawn point so i had it deeply nested. i put it back on the top, thank you! 🙂

[tawdry dew]

I keep getting this message when i try to build and publish

Which makes no sense, cause i am literally logged in and copying the exact id from my build list

[fast python]

I just realized this doesn't matter the final version of this map won't have a mirror in that room lmfao

This is what happens when it you are sleep deprived

[bold ibex]

Agree with

Is there a specific map name?Rinner

[restive drift]

is there a never have i ever with questions that non udon?

[cunning nest]

any idea why it's not uploading?

[raw vessel]

hallo
i'm trying to make sun rotation animation
but unity only record's up and down animation
why unity don't record what i did i'm confused a bit
what shod i need to do

here:

[unkempt turtle]

make a few more keys inbetween (like every 45°)
then just have the sun be at a different location on each key

[raw vessel]

@unkempt turtle
but when i do that i will not be able to make perfect rotation
it will be like sketchy movement if you know what i mean

[unkempt turtle]

ah i see
if you wanna make a perfect rotation, create a empty game object at the center of the circle the light has to go around. then put the light into the game object and give it an offset in one direction (radius of the circle). then animate the gameobject and let it rotate only by 360°

[raw vessel]

idk how i can achieve perfect animation rotation

ah sorry for late reapply

[short gulch]

Set the first key frame at 0 and the last one at 359°. When it loops the 1° jump is unnoticeable.

I'm doing this in one of my worlds with a day/night cycle

[unkempt turtle]

basically having something like that and rotate it around the game object itself. due to the hierachy the light will rotate too around the gameobject

[short gulch]

Oh, I just watched the clip you posted. What I did was I animated the directional light to rotate, which also affects the skybox

[unkempt turtle]

he uses a Point light though in the video

[short gulch]

Yeah I just noticed that when I saw the clip

He says that he's trying to make a sun rotation animation, so the way I'm describing is a lot more efficient

[unkempt turtle]

a direct light would be a lot more efficient for sure, but i presented a solution for his case with a point light

[short gulch]

I know I'm not trying to argue against your solution or anything lol, I'm just saying what worked for me when I made a day/night cycle.

[unkempt turtle]

i will probably make a day/night cycle like japan shrine has

it just replaces the model of the day one with the model of the night one (fully baked of course) with a fancy transition

[short gulch]

Here's how my method turned out. (Sped up for the sake of demonstration)

[desert python]

lookin good

[short gulch]

Thanks :p

There are a few other parameters that need animated when you do it this way, like the intensity needs to be lowered at night and I also animated the colors to reflect the color of the sky at each time of day

[raw vessel]

@unkempt turtle@short gulch
tank you i will try those solutions 👍

[short gulch]

If you're curious about the sky shader, it's RED_SIM's Beautiful Sky Shader.

I believe it's available through his patreon, but I can't remember for sure if that's the only way to get it.

[karmic iris]

quick question how many verts/faces/tris should i try to keep my world at?

[tawdry dew]

Message got lost in the feed. Still need help with this. Anyone know why it says this?

I am logged in and copy and pasted the id from my build list, so this error makes no send. Can someone plz help 💝

[raw vessel]

@tawdry dew
try to look at the unity console
maybe it will tell you what's wrong and what you need to eliminate
i mean to delete unsupported scripts

[white mauve]

you're rotating gameobject around the point light, thus the point light staying on the same position globally

you might want to click on this so it rotates around the gameobject's pivot point

[tawdry dew]

Its doesnt give any errors. I wish i knew

[raw vessel]

hmm...
it's strange though
i never have such problem like this
maybe someone else can help you with it

good luck

[near escarp]

Did you do either of the things that the text says ?

[tawdry dew]

Like the text on the game window? Yes. I detached the blueprint, copied the ID from by build console, and pasted it in and attached it. So i dunno why its is saying its i dont have access to the blueprint when i am literally copying the blueprint ID from my builds

[near escarp]

ID from the build console ?

[tawdry dew]

The content manager that lists all my published content

[near escarp]

Did you log in and out ?

[tawdry dew]

Many times :( I dunno whats wrong

[near escarp]

Do you need to reupload on the same ID ?

[tawdry dew]

I guess not, but if i upload in a new ID , wont that make it a new world instead of updating the current world i have published?

[near escarp]

wait, are you trying to update a world or avatar ?

Are you sure you don't have two scene descriptors ?

[tawdry dew]

A world. I dont think i have two. How do i check?

[near escarp]

Do you have the world toolkit addon ?

[tawdry dew]

I do, yep

[near escarp]

Does it tell you anything ?

[bold ibex]

I'm not able to upload my world

no idea why

i press upload and nothing happens

[near escarp]

https://github.com/oneVR/VRWorldToolkit/wiki/Fixing-Build-Problems

[tawdry dew]

Like on the debug screen? Edit: omg excuse the photo quality

[near escarp]

I guess you're fine

Yeah that's a bit odd, assuming you're on the latest SDK version as well i'm not sure

You restarted unity too ?

[tawdry dew]

I just tried dettaching the blue print and it still gives the same error message, which makes no sense, cause how could the blueprint be wrong if i am dettaching it. I wonder.. maybe it is logging me out after i click build and publish

[near escarp]

I'd try logging out, closing unity and then log back in

[tawdry dew]

I have tried that over 30 times now :( I dunno what else to try. I think its an issue in this project, cause I can still upload avis just fine

[near escarp]

You've tried that in that order ?

Are you uploading avatars from the same project ?

[tawdry dew]

I have, yep

[tawdry dew]

No, my avatars i keep in their own projects

[near escarp]

what's the world ID and your user ID ?

[tawdry dew]

isn't that like a password? should i post that here? lol.

[near escarp]

your user ID is public, it's the one in the URL of your profile page

starts with usr_

[tawdry dew]

I tried to build and publish again after detaching the blueprint and its giving me this error. i dunno what it means

[near escarp]

Yeah unsure either

[tawdry dew]

frig, I wonder if I need to just scrap my world and start over :/

[near escarp]

Nah, just try to remove the SDK entirely and add it back

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/updating-the-sdk#sdk2

[tawdry dew]

should i delete just the udon folder, or also he folder called "serializedudon programs"?

[white mauve]

i have a quick question regarding the audio: does vrchat manage output variable on all audio sources?

[near escarp]

Sorry for SDK3 it's this https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/updating-the-sdk#sdk3---world

[fathom moth]

hey, i have seen a couple of worlds that make other people bigger/smaller. is there a asset for this or any idea how to make it?

[tawdry dew]

Yooo this exists!? Cool!

[fathom moth]

yes

these for example

[fiery creek]

anyone know how to fix this the world was working perfectly fine before

[bold ibex]

@near escarp used that thing you sent to try and fix anything but now i just get this

[near escarp]

Detatch the blueprint ID

[bold ibex]

how does one do that

nvm found it

[near escarp]

Click cancel and open the console ?

[bold ibex]

so now i should be able to upload no problem?

[near escarp]

Dunno, we'll see

[fiery creek]

thye world was completly fine before idk what happened

[near escarp]

Click clear and check the console again

[fiery creek]

theres nothing

[near escarp]

Sweet, restart unity and try again

[fiery creek]

so task manager?

[fiery creek]

can i save scene as well?

cuz i added some stuff

[near escarp]

If you changed your scene yeah, but you should close programs with the red cross in the top right corner

[fiery creek]

okok i just didnt know if it needed a better close then just exit

[white mauve]

bumping

[bold ibex]

detatched the blueprint and same issue

[near escarp]

Don't know what you mean by output variable

Alright, i'll check with API then, it might be an actual issue

[white mauve]

the one that is found here in inspector

[fiery creek]

its saying the 1st shelf was not initialized in time same as the other avatar pedistals but i havnt touched them at all

im also in upload mode right now

[near escarp]

not initialized in time isn't an actual issue

There might be API issues preventing people from uploading atm, checking with the rest of the team

[fiery creek]

okay thank you ruubrick

[near escarp]

Oh i think we make it go through our mixer, why ?

[tawdry dew]

Omg same!!!

[fiery creek]

okay ruubrick i was able to upload my world with the file signature issue solved

[tawdry dew]

Same happened to me after i used the vrworld toolkit. @random owl do you have an insight?

[bold ibex]

yeah... i cant upload now lol

nothing i do to fix it works

[near escarp]

Can you both retry ?

Might have been a timing issue

[tawdry dew]

Same. I have tried everything. I just tagged the person who made the toolkit, maybe they will have some insight

[bold ibex]

retry how

[near escarp]

Retry uploading

[bold ibex]

i have been

its the same issue

[near escarp]

A minute ago ?

[bold ibex]

yes

[near escarp]

Either of you tried removing the toolkit ?

[bold ibex]

not sure how to remove the toolkit from a running instance

tried that with vrc sdk3 and it broke the entire scene

[white mauve]

i'm trying to make a visualizer using GetSpectrumData while having 100% 3D blend of the audio, the problem is that the further i go away from the audio source, the "quieter" it gives the results (i guess it is how unity behaves)

i thought to make a dummy audio source that outputs to nothing and has 2D blending so i get "100% volume" results but i guess vrchat automatically assigns the output variable to whatever it assigns, now i have no idea what workaround could work here (if any)

[tawdry dew]

Just did. Still no

[near escarp]

toolkit should just be the folder

[bold ibex]

alright, ill delete it and try

[tawdry dew]

Just deleted the toolkit now, trying to upload again

[near escarp]

So you're trying to get 3D Blend but also behavior of 2D with no falloff ?

[tawdry dew]

Nope. Didnt work

[white mauve]

yes

[near escarp]

You both can log in the website right ?

[near escarp]

The folks over at #udon-general might have a way to help you find a solution then, seems tricky

[bold ibex]

yeah, mine hasnt finished uploading yet though

its 138 mb so it takes a minute

[tawdry dew]

Yep

[crimson scarab]

Knowing I've probably missed something dumb, here goes;
Decided to try my hand at making a world, found the documentation and downloaded Unity Hub, 2018.4.20f1 and the world-relevant SDK3. Created a new project and imported the SDK as instructed.

Creating Your First World has you setting up a scene and placing the VRCWorld prefab in the scene, this is supposed to be in Assets > VRCSDK > Prefabs > World. Why then, do I not see any folder named Prefabs in the VRCSDK folder? 😢

[tawdry dew]

Okee, thank you so much for all your time and help!

[bold ibex]

i mean my project is udon free

im on sdk 2

so idk if that would help me

sure idc

[tawdry dew]

I'm on sdk 3

[bold ibex]

mine just finished uploading

still the same issue

[desert python]

in the assets tab. theres a search bar. try looking up “vrcworld”

[tawdry dew]

Is there a way for us to just start a fresh project with a fresh sdk and just import in our fbx and materials?

[crimson scarab]

Located. Saved in Assets/VRChat examples/Prefabs/.., that would've taken ages. Thank you

[bold ibex]

thats easy for you to say

https://gyazo.com/f06ea2038270b061e26c1cd0dba4693b

[near escarp]

I'll update the documentation to reflect this, sorry !

[bold ibex]

this is gonna be a pain to redo

[near escarp]

Don't redo anything yet please, we're trying to figure this issue

[bold ibex]

alr

it was def the toolkit

i know it told me i apparently had 2 pipelines or something

so i did quick fix

and now its an error with the pipeline not working period

[tawdry dew]

Ooooooh pretty!

[bold ibex]

thanks, but if i do end up having to redo it, thats gonna suck ass

[near escarp]

Did you both try to delete the VRCWorld object and make anew one ?

[bold ibex]

not yet

ill give it a try

[tawdry dew]

Yeah i tried that. Didnt work

[bold ibex]

after it finishes building

[crimson scarab]

Nothing to be sorry over, all is well that ends well ❤️

[bold ibex]

alr trying it out now

trying to build it now

no luck

same issue

that tool really fucks up unity projects lol

[near escarp]

I don't think it's related to the toolkit

[bold ibex]

well it brought me to the upload screen post tool kit

[tawdry dew]

Yeah i dont think its the tool. The tool seems amazing.

[bold ibex]

now it doesnt even bring me to the screen

[near escarp]

Any error in your console ?

[bold ibex]

and the only change was adding the tool kit and clicking auto fix

no errors

well other than this

even though im logged in

it worked fine and brought me to the upload screen before the tool

then after the tool i dont even get that

[tawdry dew]

Thats a strange error. A 3.0 avatar error on a 2.0 world

[near escarp]

You have both SDKs in the same project ?

[bold ibex]

nope

just sdk 2

no idea why its saying anything related to sdk 3

it wasnt earlier

[near escarp]

The error says you're not logged in though, so that would explain the blueprint error

[bold ibex]

but i am logged in

so some how im being logged out

[tawdry dew]

Yeah i think we are some how getting logged out mid upload

[bold ibex]

https://gyazo.com/93b23b5091914dcf7694792f0e7adb16

wtf

but yeah

it makes no sense

[near escarp]

Looking into it still, thanks for your patience

Since it happened for both of your out of nowhere, it's kinda strange

I'd expect more noise if it was a lot of people affected though

[bold ibex]

my bet is the tool messed it up

[tawdry dew]

Thank you so much, really really appreciate your help ❤️

[bold ibex]

because post tool its broken

[near escarp]

When did you get the version of the tool you're using ?

[bold ibex]

but pre tool its fine

when you linked it

i thought you were saying this might fix your issue by sending the link to it

[tawdry dew]

2 days ago in the #world-optimization channel

[near escarp]

I'll try adding the latest version to one of my own project

[bold ibex]

idk why but ive got a feeling its the tool that messed it up

[tawdry dew]

Eep careful haha. Let us know how it goes

[near escarp]

Yeah doesn't seem to be the toolkit

[tawdry dew]

Nothing broke after you clicked autofix?

[near escarp]

Nope

[tawdry dew]

Hmm. What a mystery. I wonder what happened with us

[near escarp]

Can you try logging out of the website as well as the SDK ?

Can i get your vrchat usernames ?

I'll see if you can log you out manually and that might fix it

[bold ibex]

noc turnal

[tawdry dew]

FemBoi.Fox

[near escarp]

Alright, logged out both of you, mind restarting Unity ?

[bold ibex]

alr restarting

should i try building it again?

[near escarp]

Did you have to log in ?

[bold ibex]

yeah

i had to log in and 2fa

[near escarp]

Sweet, try building then yeah

[bold ibex]

alr building it now

@near escarp i finally reached the upload screen again

[near escarp]

So it worked ?

[bold ibex]

yup

and i can upload it now too

[near escarp]

[bold ibex]

<3

that was hell but im glad i didnt have to restart

that took me like 9 hours to put it all together

[near escarp]

Should be solved for you as well

[tawdry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/froggy-dance-hype-hyper-kermit-the-frog-gif-12822945

[solid atlas]

sorry

i thought it belonged in optimisation xD

[tawdry dew]

yooooooo hell yeah!! its fixed!!! HYYYYPE

[near escarp]

[tawdry dew]

only thing is, I can no longer jump in my world rofl, it must have been disabled by the autofix, how do I turn jump back on?

[near escarp]

It was SDK3 right ?

[tawdry dew]

yuppers

[near escarp]

You didn't create a udon behavior with playermod jump ?

It's part of the examples

Unless it resets the vrcworld

[tawdry dew]

nope, i could just always jump in the world, it must have been autoenabled. ooh yeah maybe it got deleted when i deleted and readded the vrc world. how do i readd it? I need the jumpy jumps

[near escarp]

It should be by default with the vrcworld prefab

[tawdry dew]

rofl weird, yeah i thought so too

[near escarp]

Yeah looks like it's not the prefab anymore

You should copy the world ID, delete that and add the prefab back into your scene

[tawdry dew]

Did that, still can't jump. lol what in the heck

[random owl]

Unity might have lost the reference completely then

You could always just add it back in

If you click that small circle next to the program source and search for VRCWorldSettings

[tawdry dew]

nothing comes up when i type that, the only thing that comes up close to that is "vrc world udon graph program asset"

[fast python]

The best particle

[random owl]

Nothing shows up like this?

[tawdry dew]

nope

[random owl]

Any errors in your console?

[random owl]

[tawdry dew]

im not sure what that means

[random owl]

Can you check this folder in your project?

[tawdry dew]

I don't have that

[random owl]

Well that would explain things then

You could just try importing the latest SDK again into the project

[tawdry dew]

hahah oof, for the fifth time. okay, so am I correct in that I just delete the udon folder (and meta) and sdk folder (and meta), or do i also have to delete the 'serializedudon programs' folder?

[random owl]

You should be fine just importing on top this time, you can check in the import dialogue to see if that folder is getting imported at all

[tawdry dew]

so i can import on top of the udon and sdk folders? or i need to delete those first?

[random owl]

SDK3 can be updated without deleting anything

[tawdry dew]

ahhh shiii, really? i have been deleting it all this time to update. wonder why the vrchat documentation says to delete everything firs

[random owl]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/updating-the-sdk

[tawdry dew]

weird. was the documentation just updated? I just read it 2 hours ago and it didnt say that.

[random owl]

Last updated 5 months ago

[tawdry dew]

I was following the link Rubbick sent me: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/updating-the-sdk#sdk3---world

[random owl]

That also says you can import over the old as long as you are on a recentish SDK

[tawdry dew]

ohhh my bad, i didnt see that. okee. imported, testing now

[tawdry dew]

it worked, I can jump again, thank you sososososo much for all your help 😄

[random owl]

No problem

[tawdry dew]

side note, your tool literally cut my world size from 106MB to 46MB, so thanks for that too! 😄

[random owl]

Nice

[tawdry dew]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-12297363

[green lagoon]

where was all that file-size hiding

[tawdry dew]

75% of file size was textures lolol. half of which was in that damn viking archway I used at my spawn point rofl

[green lagoon]

the joys of grabbing stuff off of asset stores

like no I do not need a 30 mb dining table with 4k PBR textures

[tawdry dew]

hahahahaa legit, it was friggen extra. a 75mb archway, no thanks, i'm good rofl. i kept the archway, just optimized the hell out of it

[green lagoon]

hope that goes well and yeah that's why that tool is Handy to spot silly stuff like that

[tawdry dew]

hell yeah, now i can move on with my world checklist, hoping everything else i can figure out with just youtube tutorials 😛

[median briar]

(it's 60mb when published)

[near escarp]

wtf

[random owl]

Unity package with all the original assets and different compression vs assetbundle with only the processed assets and compression on top

[fast python]

Hey @near escarp got a unity layer question

[near escarp]

ye

[fast python]

So I have books with inverted normals for an outline effect

However, you can see some weird clipping issues

Is there a way to render that material below the material that the books are made of?

[near escarp]

With an outline shader maybe

But that's kind of the problem with outlines in general, they overlap and cross, and it's a lot of manual work

[fast python]

That's what I was asking though

[near escarp]

Behavior might be different with a shader than an actual mesh outline though

[fast python]

Just have it render behind the actual mesh

Using I believe render queue or layers?

[near escarp]

I don't think either would make a difference

Worth upping the render queue on one of the book though

Which means they'll all be separate objects

[fast python]

Yeah

That was the idea

Make it 2 separate meshes

[idle jolt]

What’s the trigger command to where only the master of the world can activate a button?

[fast python]

Does anyone know of an outline shader that works on Quest?

[median egret]

how do people usualy put videos on lights? like matching the video to the color of point lights or making the video play on lights

[fast python]

Hey @near escarp still strugging with this whole outline thing and got a question

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.render-pipelines.high-definition@6.7/manual/Renderer-And-Material-Priority.html

How do you get these options to show up in Unity?

[near escarp]

That's for HDRP

[fast python]

Wazzat and how do I enable it

[near escarp]

It's a render pipeline and you can't because it's not what vrchat uses

[fast python]

Ah damn

Man I am really wracking my brain trying to figure out how to do outlines on Quest

[median egret]

would anyone be able to show me a good way to do hot tub water? can't find a good shader/material and the only suggestion I have is silent's shader

[bold ibex]

How the fuck do I fix this?

[near escarp]

Why is silent's not good ?

[median egret]

idk I have been trying to do waves with height and it doesn't offer that :/

[near escarp]

waves in a hot tub ?

[heady otter]

does anyone know how to set up reflection probes on sdk2

[near escarp]

Create a reflection probe, edit the bounds, bake it

Box projection enabled if you're setting the probe for an enclosed space

[heady otter]

by editing the bounds do you mean rescaling it?

[near escarp]

Nope, there's an edit bounds button in the component

[heady otter]

oh ok

i don't see it

[heady otter]

nevermind I figured it out thanks for the help

[frosty goblet]

What's the maximum recommended size of a world before you start to encounter killer float errors?

Size as in... like how many square meters (or km) across

[frozen tundra]

hey quick question. a vrchat world can only be inside of a single Unity scene, right? players can't join different scenes like how you would load a new scene in a video game when the player enters a new section of the game?

[median egret]

yeah like bubbly kind of waves? like water height pretty much

[frosty goblet]

That is correct, it all has to be a single scene

[frozen tundra]

alright, thanks

[near escarp]

You're more likely to get better looking results with a sprite shader, as in sprite animation, maybe on a slightly non uniform mesh

[median egret]

ah ok

[bold ibex]

I updated my pool table.
When I do a test build locally it works.
However when I try to upload the world I get this.
I'm so confused. Anyone know what I can do?

[subtle relic]

how do i check the instance type in udon / udon#

[near escarp]

#udon-general

[steep condor]

I have a basic question. Im working on creating a world and Builder is showing I need VRCSceneDescriptor. I have one attached to an empty object and I have a spawn transform attached. Can someone help me out with what Im doing wrong. Appreciate any advice

[unkempt turtle]

there is a prefab for the scene descriptor included in the sdk

[hollow fjord]

that's relatively normal, if an udon script tries to call the VRC API during an upload it'll fail and the execution will be halted. This is because the value will be NULL during upload. Whereas it'll be filled in when when testing locally.

Also, I'm thinking of starting my own world jam/collab project. Since I have a fun idea I want to work on with others and compete with against others.

The theme is going to be "oasis" since it's getting warmer due to summer break being upon us, and I want to work on a world with that theme

but I also want to see what others come up with

and work with people on creating a nice oasis in the middle of a desert

[hard arch]

// deleted - I think I may have found the problem myself. I forgot one script that toggles the problematic audio source that may be at fault here.

[bold ibex]

Anyone know a way I can make a object interact with another when hit in sdk2?

[steep condor]

I tried adding the VRCWorld prefab from sdk2 buy I get the same message

[heady otter]

just made a PC world but I wanna port it for quest does anybody know how to do it (I want it for both versions

when I click switch target build to android it asks me if I want to and says itll take a while but then doesn't do anything

[barren canopy]

i have a world idea where its a dnd based world with actual battle mechanics, and a character saving system, and npcs

[near escarp]

OnEnterTrigger and change the layers on the object/trigger appropriately

[pallid dove]

Is anyone have dj assets so I can find or use

[fast python]

Does anyone know how to set up a system where you walk into something abd it changes your avatar?

I know it's possible as I've seen some worlds do it

[unkempt turtle]

try using a pedestal and make it OnAvatarHit instead of Interact

[fast python]

Hey @near escarp I know you're most likely mod to respond so got kind of a TOS question

[near escarp]

I'm part of the QA team sorry

[fast python]

Gotcha

Someone said doing collission avatar changers was frowned upon and could get my world taken down

But like if it's visible where the avatar changers are and they're disabled by default, is that really a bad thing?

Do you know who I should ping to ask?

[near escarp]

Frowned upon certainly, but not against TOS afaik

People will just hate your world

[fast python]

I mean if it's off be default, is it really something to be that upset over...?

[green lagoon]

very startling to have your avatar changed without any are you sure checkboxes

[fast python]

Oh well yeah the avatar changers will be off by default, with a button near the entrance to enable them

And I am making sure the avatars in question are highly optimized for both platforms

[finite jolt]

i need some help, how do i stop grass from fading out in my mirror reflection? everytime i move my head from left to right and vice versa fades out the grass in the mirror reflection?

this only happens in vr.

not on desktop

[proper light]

hello, im trying to do karaoke room. I want to put many songs with own buttons (30-60 songs). Video player and sounds are ready. I just need to figure out how to make buttons with url and make them play in video player. Thanks for help.

[fast python]

So here's the plan. The avatar swappers are not only toggled with a button, but there's a warning next to it. Do you think that's good enough?

Avatar quality on Quest and PC is excellent rating

[near escarp]

If it's with a button yeah of course that's fine

[fast python]

Well I mean

It's a button that toggles avatar swappers on the floor

Once you pass over the trigger on the floor (which will be visible) your avatar is changed and a auditory and visual queue will play to alert you

[near escarp]

Might be better to tell people in advance, but if it's an avatar world, then it'll be very confusing for everyone

[fast python]

I just thought that collision avatar changers were more accepted. I was in a scary world one time where it changed my avatar without me realizing and then put a mirror in my face

[fast python]

It's a hangout world. There will be a warning next to the button that says "Attention! This toggle will spawn triggers that will change your avatar. Do not toggle this unless you are okay with an abrupt avatar change."

[near escarp]

Why would you do that in a hangout world

Is that story/lore based or something ?

[fast python]

Yes

It's based off of a video game

[near escarp]

The bridge changing what you look like ?

[fast python]

Bridge?

[near escarp]

nvm thought you said bridge

I guess the areas that change your avatar

Do people joining your world expect that ?

[fast python]

Nah so basically in the game there are puddles that transform you

I figured it would be a cool feature to implement that part of the game into my world

[near escarp]

AH, in that case yeah that would make sense

[fast python]

And of course you can disable it if you just want to chill and talk with friends in that environment

[near escarp]

Giving people the ability to turn that on would be enough then yeah

[fast python]

I've asked all of the people in the world if they'd be interested in me adding that feature and all who were familiar with the game it's based off of all gave a resounding yes.

That's why I was shocked to hear it was looked down upon

[near escarp]

Because for every other world there isn't this expectation

[fast python]

Right right

[near escarp]

and it's never tied to any existing mechanic or story

it's just "Now you're an eboy/furry"

[fast python]

Yeah I'd definitely be annoyed if I joined a world and with no context my avatar changed

In my case, it will be a static sprite on Quest and on PC, an animated sprite using the retro shader

[near escarp]

You're using silent's pixel shader right ?

[fast python]

No, the retro shader v2

It allows you to make texarray animations

[near escarp]

For your entire world ?

[fast python]

Oh no no

Since it's a Quest compatible world, just standard

I am using the method of putting inverted meshes on all the props to give the illusion of an outline

However, all the meshes are going to be merged and one FBX to increase performance

And if that's not enough, a toggle to disable all world props

So far though, I've optimized everything enough that with the high quality mirror on and a very poor avatar, I average 60-65 fps on Quest

But to achieve a sprite avatar on Quest, where transparency is very limited, I actually made a model of the sprite lol

[near escarp]

That's a nice way to get around it

[fast python]

I COULD animate it by doing more models and a particle system like I did for an NPC in the world

But then it would lose the excellent quality since particle systems automatically make avatars poor on Quest

Truth be told

I like developing for Quest more than PC

Since there are more limitations, it forces me to think outside of the box and try new things I otherwise wouldn't have thought of

[fiery creek]

does anyone know how to fix object reference not set to an instance of an object

[limber panther]

Hi, I have a world out in the labs, but now it's showing that it's locked and isn't showing up in the 'labs' tab.
When I click on the map, it shows that's it's still out. how long does this normally take to fix?

[fast python]

Yeah I'm in the same boat as you but reversed

In game my world is public and not labs

But in browser it is in labs

[azure kite]

Is there any role to get notified on when the new world jam is happening?

[frosty goblet]

@fast python there are a lot of forced features that people look down upon, but it is ultimately up to you. I'm doing SAO, and I've had a nametag blocker for a while now, nobody's complained about it yet.

[fast python]

Well, even though it is a forced avatar changer, it is entirely optional and is disabled by default

[cunning nest]

So I am doing buttons stolen from the mirror prefab in the SDK any idea what is spawning these huge collider and how do I reduce it?

[velvet pebble]

Anyone know how to make a reset button for pickups

udon

[desert python]

udonsharp?

[fiery creek]

i trying to make my vrc mirrors local, and add a low quality version, can someone please help me with that?

[velvet pebble]

Graphs but if you know through sharp thats chill

[desert python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/796058001219125303/852305617942741042/UItoggle_example.prefab hopefully this might help you. should work on both sdks

[fiery creek]

do i just drag this onto the mirror?

[fiery creek]

it also has 2 missing scipts

[desert python]

might be the mirror scripts. but the buttons to toggle between 2 objects/mirrors should work

[desert python]

i have a reset object script you can use if you like

[fiery creek]

so i drag the mirror into one and my main mirror toggle on off button in the other?

[cunning nest]

so I'm using wolfevideoplayer, should it be working on the quest?

[spice crescent]

how do you make vrc worlds

[hollow fjord]

Not necessarily, the biggest concern is file size, the world itself can be as big as you want to, but it does look decently sized to me 🙂

[green lagoon]

okay technically after like a certain size you get floating-point errors but I doubt you're there yet and if need be you could rearrange the chunks to be closer

[silent night]

Blender render of a new world I'm making, critiques are desired and wanted~ Once everything is imported into Unity I'll have a better picture for in game~ All handmade in Blender.

[hollow fjord]

Except for the lighting (which will change when it's in unity anyway) my biggest points would be lowering the sign, and adding a lip around the top to break up the ceiling and the wall, since right now they look a bit weird. Also, reduce the intensity of the normal map or use a higher res one

[high summit]

yeah gotta agree

[silent night]

Yep~ Got a few tweaks to make, and of course it's in Blender so I basically did it the lazy way and just threw the defaults into it minus the tiling map with a generated tiler.

[high summit]

i love the purple-blue lighting strips and the glow they give off 🥰

[silent night]

I'm a big fan of my neon, tch, everyone who commissions me knows me as the person who throws way too many lighting strips into their rooms.

[hollow fjord]

if you need materials: https://quixel.com/megascans/home?category=surface&category=fabric

[high summit]

hehe, neon is cool

[hollow fjord]

that's where I usually get mine

[hollow fjord]

[silent night]

I use,

https://ambientcg.com/list?sort=Popular

[high summit]

so how do you make worlds because ive been meaning to try, is there like a world building kit with things like buttons and seats you can find and use or..?

[silent night]

I could DM you, Crypto.

[hollow fjord]

Well, for starters you read the wiki

[high summit]

that would be awesome

[silent night]

I'm a nerd I don't look at wikis, AHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[high summit]

i'll check up on it in like 4 hours when

[hollow fjord]

I also make worlds and I read it as a reference

[high summit]

i can access my pc

[silent night]

Though take it with a grain of salt, I learned both Blender and Unity in about 5 days, and most people say I'm a lunatic and that there's no way I did

[high summit]

i cant do much blender but i got some experience in it

very little

i can softbody meshes and thats about it, lol

[hollow fjord]

well

you don't need blender to make a nice world

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk

[silent night]

^

Technically you can use the Unity toolkit,

[hollow fjord]

that's the guide for setting up the sdk itself by the way and get started

[silent night]

But I'd rather kill myself than to work in entirely Unity again.

💔

[hollow fjord]

I mean, https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_c8f112b0-d945-4ebf-9047-c718f84133c6 (my world by the way) was entirely made with free assets either from the unity store or booth

[silent night]

I should sell this microphone model I made.

It's relatively low poly too.

[hollow fjord]

My biggest focus for that project was making a nice game world with pens for mute players, but also to prove people you can make a good, well optimized world without blender or spending money

[silent night]

There's some real good stuff out there that was made in Unity,

I just can't stand how hard it is to interlock pieces together and make windows and such.

[hollow fjord]

Anyway, the TL.DR for world creation is this:

1. You need unity 2018 and the VRC sdk, weather you go with Udon or SDK2 is up to you. but if you want to do some neat mechanics, go with udon.
2. Make a rough sketch of what you want your world to look like, make a top down view of the rooms and where things will be
3. In unity, place basic block shapes down as to where everything will roughly be, this'll help visualize the scale of things
4. Once you're happy with the layout, start adding your world's mechanics/gimmicks. E.g pens, mirrors, chairs, etc.
5. Once you're happy with the placement of those, start looking for props and stuff to slowly replace the blocks with the actual props and stuff

[silent night]

Here's the lighting changes. Not sure what you meant by the lip though.

[hollow fjord]

something like that

[silent night]

Ah, that's what you mean.

I suppose I could subdivide the ceiling and extrude.

[hollow fjord]

Eh, I'd just make it a separate piece

[silent night]

Though I don't know if this ceiling will even let me do that or even knife it.

Ye, that's kind of what I thought too.

[hollow fjord]

It'll help make the room less boxy

@silent night you can also do the bottom part like this to add more depth:

[pure hornet]

I want to play a long video with VRCAVProVideoPlayer, but the video and audio are out of sync.
Do you know why?
Please let me know!

[brisk spear]

Does anyone know why when a quest user try’s to join my world they can’t actually get in

[desert python]

no, that videoplayer asfaik was not designed and was probs made in a way to force creators to remove it from quest

[cunning nest]

that sucks, any one that would work?

[desert python]

protv and qvid does

was acc testing out the recently updated USVP. it does not quest sadly still

[desert python]

qvid is my private TV and i never really packaged it for public (mainly because my organization skills suck) but pro TV has a beta line up thats been the flag ship for even quest live streams

however its a discord only beta prefab

if you need link, jut add me

[hollow fjord]

if your world isn't well optimized (shaders, lighting, etc) it might kick quest users out for safety reasons

[desert python]

does the world have audiolink by chance?

[dull estuary]

I keep having this issue.
Whenever I go to add mesh colliders to my world, they are always sideways and too small. I looked up fixes and got more confused. Any easy solutions?

[brisk spear]

yes it does

but not for quest i don't think

[desert python]

double check, it has quest ban shaders

[brisk spear]

i believe i'm using VRChat>Mobile>Standard Lit shader

[desert python]

audiolink does not

[brisk spear]

audiolink not quest world compatible i believe

[bold ibex]

Is there a way to have a world allow more than just 40 people?

Setting the limit higher just defaults to 40 XD

[errant beacon]

Worlds can have up to 2x their player capacity with invites/portals, i.e a world with a 4 player cap can have up to 8 players in it with invites, and a world with a 40 player cap can get up to 80

[bold ibex]

0o0!

[errant beacon]

don't know how your FPS would fare with 80 people in it though lol

[bold ibex]

Fair

[fast python]

Got a blender snapping question

I'm trying to center a model and set up a subdivided plane to help, but I can't get it to line up properly

[near escarp]

Shift + S to snap stuff to the same 3D cursor position

[harsh wagon]

Has anyone used the Udon swim system lately? I just tried importing it now and it's broken for me.

None of the scripts are working