general-media

[obsidian shore]

h

[paper flint]

50% of vrchat avatars have missed the "think about it" stage and just whack it in high poly in-game

[pseudo jetty]

Heck back then I had like... maybe less than a month of c# behind me

[obsidian shore]

for example

[jovial marsh]

whats optimization? ive never heard of that arbitrary concept

[pseudo jetty]

I stored tve object data very wrong

[devout cedar]

The amount of edge loops..

[obsidian shore]

you look at the vertices and it just turns the entire model black

[jovial marsh]

heh

[obsidian shore]

entire thing turns into a fucken fresnel shader

[empty gust]

bUt lOw pOly loOks BaD
-person who's only decimated the hecc out of models

[pseudo jetty]

Instead of assigning each block type an ID and comparing against a list of some sort... I gave each object all the data it needed even if all objects of the same type shared it

[paper flint]

are you suggesting decimate isn't the way to optimise models? 😂

[jovial marsh]

for real

[tranquil spear]

maximum decimation

[obsidian shore]

beesh

[pseudo jetty]

Tbf I am relatively new to programming

[paper flint]

lgtm, upload

[jovial marsh]

u sound like a pro

[pseudo jetty]

Only been doing it for maybe 3 quarters of a year

[empty gust]

It's a way yes, but it can destroy your topology and can look bad real quick
dissolving edge loops is fast, can look way better and doesn't screw up joints if you do it right

[pseudo jetty]

I have heard "You learn way too fast" from people at my workplace with far more experience a lot

[paper flint]

Yeah 😦

[jovial marsh]

please keep track of what your doing to learn and what resources you access because your doing something that alot of people dont

[pseudo jetty]

Honestly all I do is actively pay attention, be interested in the topic and look up things I dont understand

[paper flint]

Yup, that's the way to go about it. I wish people at work did that haha

[pseudo jetty]

Thats how you end up learning things like regex basics in maybe 30 mins...

[paper flint]

VRChat_Optimise.py blender addon

[empty gust]

decimate model to 15 tris, it'll be great

[jovial marsh]

triangle gang

[paper flint]

just take front and rear facing screenshots of your model and make a 2d cardboard model out of it

[surreal scarab]

1 single polygon

[jovial marsh]

some people do that for fallbacks

[paper flint]

lol I was just thinking about that for Quest haha

[pseudo jetty]

I was involved in a vrc project that involved an invite bot, with no prior knowledge of JS I picked up the project from the person who wrote the connector and had a fully running bot within a few days with discord integration and everything

Too bad it never got used

[obsidian shore]

crazy bro

[pseudo jetty]

Also if I would rewrite it now id likely do it very differently as I have more experience now

But thats the joy of seeing yourself learn. You can return to projects and see many things you couldve done better

[paper flint]

Shame that in industry you rarely get to actually improve them 😄

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah

[paper flint]

Depends on where you work, but a lot of places are only interested in changes which directly benefit the business

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah that applies here too

[jovial marsh]

how much time do you have?!?!

[pseudo jetty]

I spent all my free time on that the 4 days I worked on it

Mostly testing tho

[jovial marsh]

whoo dedication

[pseudo jetty]

If I have a project I care about ill gladly spend all time on it

[paper flint]

I usually find I get 75% way through a project and then end up working on something else 😂

Because the something else becomes more interesting

My GitHub is like some scuffed graveyard

[pseudo jetty]

Sadly the team had some members that disrupted the entire thing so I ended up getting kicked by the person who ended up, afaik, making it all fall apart anyways

[empty gust]

pacing/not overworking yourself is important

[pseudo jetty]

Most of my projects stop when I have to make content instead of code

[devout cedar]

Lately I find myself going to Minecraft when something gets too tedious or frustrating for me

[pseudo jetty]

I made a c# console tower defense game framework with tower placing and units moving and such

[obsidian shore]

skin modifier is fucked as fuck

[pseudo jetty]

When I had to add towers and enemies I stopped working on it as I lost motication

[obsidian shore]

mood

[jovial marsh]

I feel like its much easier to make yourself do something if its for other people

or like other people are relying on you

[pseudo jetty]

I made that in like 2 or 3 days at work I was really bored

The c# console is awful for doing thigs that require you to update only areas of a screen

You also get flickering after each time you draw the text if you do it wrong

Thats what not having unity on my work laptop did to me

Having to write graphics functions for the c# console

And your own structs like vector2

with hilarious operator overwrites

[obsidian shore]

sorta stuck rn with blender

[paper flint]

I've got a love/hate relationship with Blender

[pseudo jetty]

Because why not allow
foo += new Vector2(x) + y;

[paper flint]

operator overrides 🤮

[pseudo jetty]

I like em learned them for my newest project

Really like em

Its how c++ for example does string concats

[paper flint]

One easy trick to obfuscate your code - programmers hate him!

[pseudo jetty]

If you obfuscate your code youll immedeately be hated

[paper flint]

I'm implying that operator overrides are indirect obfuscation 😄

[pseudo jetty]

Code needs to be readable so it can be fixed and understood

They only are if the overrides dont make sense

In my case Vector2 + Int only adds the int to both dimensions

It saves a bit of time

Id use blender more if I had ideas ngl

[empty gust]

doing random simulations and playing with Cycles is fun, if you don't have any idea what to model

Cycles got super fast in the 3.0 update too

[devout cedar]

I like Blender, but hate when Unity goes bonkers 6 times out of 10 after reimporting the object.. even though I just made a slight change to animation or mesh

[jovial marsh]

unity devolopment hehehehheh

[devout cedar]

Unity also doesn't respect constraints for say, when you attach a weapon to a character's hand in animation

[empty gust]

depending on what you mean, that might be fixed by exporting in something other than .fbx? Blender's FBX exporter's kinda stanky sometimes

I use collada .dae mostly

[jovial marsh]

whats the diff between fhx and dae

[empty gust]

practically, not much if anything

.fbx is more widely supported maybe™ but it's not like .dae is a rare format

historically there's lots of differences, and .fbx was originally meant as a file format for mocap software iirc that gradually got built up

[pseudo jetty]

time to actually nap

[empty gust]

for Blender specifically, it's .fbx exporter kinda bugs out at times and causes issues
I've seen stuff like some polygons just..not existing in the .fbx export, even though their normals and etc are otherwise fine

for some reason exporting in .dae with Blender is fine, at least in my experience

[sick bloom]

Paci fix sleep schedule?

How

[pseudo jetty]

I have work tomorrow it seems qwq

[sick bloom]

Poor bab

We need a faster one

[pseudo jetty]

Yes I get bullied a lot here

[empty gust]

gonna set them on fire with pats :monkas:

[sick bloom]

[pseudo jetty]

Is my only reply to this.

[sick bloom]

Matching pfps now you're edaters

[pseudo jetty]

I aint into guys really

[sick bloom]

[pseudo jetty]

Currently my best friend? Sure.

He said it first not me

[sick bloom]

Paci is a bottom to women

[pseudo jetty]

What

[sick bloom]

Valuable information indeed

[jovial marsh]

Hello guys

[sick bloom]

Do not worry about it

[pseudo jetty]

Theres a few guys who have a crush on me I think... I dont have the heart to say no

[jovial marsh]

Rip

[sick bloom]

Well you just gotta if you ain't interested

[pseudo jetty]

Still question how you can find a liking to someone like me...

[sick bloom]

I wonder the same thing too but it's happened before so

Well i was less ugly back then

[paper flint]

nope

[pseudo jetty]

Idek how to make friends its just akward

[jovial marsh]

I’ll be your friend

[pseudo jetty]

I have like 20 unaccepted FRs at thus point sitting in my vrc inbox

People keep adding me but like... "Who are you I barely talked to you???"

[sick bloom]

Paci you say that but still have a pretty big friend group and go to parties

Party's

I can english

[pseudo jetty]

I have active friends

[sick bloom]

And for these, just decline em

[trail plover]

yo so Question, is there literally ANY way around those damned Quest crashing avatars

[pseudo jetty]

I have maybe 375ish people on my list in vrc, during new years over 40% of it was online at the same time

[trail plover]

genuinely tired of having fun just to have it ended by a malicious player

[sick bloom]

I had like 15% active

[trail plover]

I had cleared all VRC data, set all safety to max, disabled literally everything

joined and he enabled crasher and my quest still managed to reboot

damn okay

[pseudo jetty]

Ok fr I need to nap

[trail plover]

These game devs deadass lacking lmao

[jovial marsh]

sleep

[pseudo jetty]

I planned to call at 11 pm so

[sick bloom]

Night night tiny german

[pseudo jetty]

I wanted to nap over an hour ago

You can just see that in your logs

[trail plover]

The fact that this exists is baffling tbh

like i doubt they're some lil 0 days or anything

[pseudo jetty]

Typical programmer thing. Overcomplicating solutions go brr

[trail plover]

They're probably really basic oversights

[pseudo jetty]

Its not, its an issue related to the networking they use. It can be fixed but it takes time afaik...

Vrc uses photon btw

[trail plover]

sounds like a real issue

[sick bloom]

I am hearing noises outside I've never heard

[trail plover]

guess I'll just avoid playing in public lobbies for now

[pseudo jetty]

Photon trusts the client way more than it has rights to, causing a lot of issues

[jovial marsh]

All I’m gonna say is don’t go to it lmao

[sick bloom]

Can't

[pseudo jetty]

Too late

[sick bloom]

Probably some twats with fireworks still

[pseudo jetty]

Also too expensive

[sharp pawn]

Well vrchat doesn't really have a notion of server

[jovial marsh]

Anyone wanna play vr chat with me later. I’m trying to find some friends. I’m a loner lmao 🥲

[sick bloom]

Imagine

[pseudo jetty]

Well youd think if you clone that itd check the API if the person has allow clone on, but if the client tells photon "Dw man its fine" photon just believes that afaik

[sharp pawn]

Yea there's a bunch of things like this that are kinda lame

[pseudo jetty]

Or they now just grab the avatar ID and change into it

[sharp pawn]

Not sure what can do about that because they need to load your avatar on their clients too

[trail plover]

Never understood why disabling avatar cloning is a thing lmao

Why is it a problem that someone wants to have your cool avatar

[pseudo jetty]

The crashing issue spews out hundreds if not thoudands of photon errors

[jovial marsh]

Selfish people

[pseudo jetty]

Its called uploading an avatar for friends but only friends

[trail plover]

I'll keep it disabled if I'm using, uh, specific avatars

but other than that I'll let people copy my avatars

[pseudo jetty]

You cant make avatars for specific people... yet

Lets see if groups change it

[trail plover]

Doubt it'll ever get added tbh

if you have to theorize and implement your own fix then something is wrong @stone loom

^

[pseudo jetty]

As long as you do nit modify vrcs code, add new files or reverse engineer vrcs own code you are good

[trail plover]

nah what

[pseudo jetty]

<@&397642795457970181>

Apps dont exist on phone, vrcat

[sick bloom]

apps still doesnt work you stupid cat

[pseudo jetty]

They do for me on pc

[sick bloom]

ive refreshed and had it not work

[trail plover]

Top tier options for reporting let's gooo

[pseudo jetty]

ty chat mods

[paper flint]

Yeah the apps button is missing for me too

Render every frame on the server and push it to the client 😉

[balmy lion]

Gotta refresh to get the cat app.

[trail plover]

Apps obviously isn't available on mobile

[sick bloom]

[pseudo jetty]

It cant be avoided, they can just grab the avatars id and change into it

[paper flint]

Yup, can't trust the client.

[trail plover]

I'm convinced discords built in report button doesn't do anything if you're not a furry

[paper flint]

I mean their API could easily block that

[sick bloom]

Also there are many answers to this

[paper flint]

Can't it? Don't they control the avatar assignment on the server?

[pseudo jetty]

The modded clients use the same avatar change api as the clients do

[sick bloom]

[trail plover]

Whatever answers you're gonna give I'm gonna disagree with so nah man sorry there are no right answers

[sick bloom]

there are paid models that you cant redistribute, and customized versions people use personally that fits them as a person

[paper flint]

Ahh sorry I was confusing private avatars and just disabling cloning.

[sick bloom]

[trail plover]

Skill issue

[pseudo jetty]

God again, I should be napping

[paper flint]

Disabling cloning on public avatars is a stupid feature

[pseudo jetty]

Its not

[sick bloom]

Paci go to sleep or else

[paper flint]

Because two people could just stand next to each other wearing the same avatar, with one guy having cloning turned off - I can clone it from one guy and not the other?

What's the point?

[pseudo jetty]

I made an avatar for a friend and its on my account because he cant upload

So he got to clone and favorite it

[paper flint]

Yeah, the scenario I described means it's basically impossible lul

[paper flint]

Sounds like he should just play more, get a trusted rank and then upload it himself.

[trail plover]

nah wait can't you just load the person's private avatar, extract it from VRC's game data, and upload it

Then use it? Or is that against ToS

[pseudo jetty]

He is known, just hates unity with a passion

[paper flint]

Yeah but that's creating a whole new avatar then (and 100% against ToS)

TIL

[sick bloom]

weak

[trail plover]

how is that against ToS if you're not messing with the game's code at all whatsoever

[paper flint]

Ripping the avatar is against ToS I'm pretty sure.

[trail plover]

It's not cheating either or modifying the game to your advantage

[trail plover]

Plus whos gonna tell on you /s

[pseudo jetty]

To aquire the files youd need to modify your game, to upload violates both TOS and in many cases also Copyright

[paper flint]

If you rip and re-upload the same asset, they can probably hash it and just tell automatically that you are doing something you shouldn't be.

[trail plover]

Jokes aside i can see why it's against ToS but I'm still kinda lost as to why it's such a heavy punish lmao

[pseudo jetty]

Bruh

[paper flint]

They could though 😄

[trail plover]

them again yeah as you all said, that DOES require modding the game in some form

these ToS rules are so weird to me ngl

[pseudo jetty]

Copyright Infringement

Theft

[paper flint]

Either way, doing it is not recommended 😄

[balmy lion]

Wah.

[pseudo jetty]

Theres a lotta reasons it results in very severe punishment

[paper flint]

I think it's not severe enough. They should send your local law enforcement to bust your door down and take you to jail.

[trail plover]

nah i don't think that's it, if CC was the issue at hand there wouldn't be trademarked characters walking around everywhere

[paper flint]

And ban you from owning a VR headset for life

[trail plover]

Feel like it's a different reason

[paper flint]

Maybe VAC ban you too

[pseudo jetty]

The companies could file a takedown

[split sinew]

lol

[pseudo jetty]

Example: Booth assets

[paper flint]

Ah fair enough, I thought it was just download & reupload bundle but I guess that makes sense.

Guess that would make things a bit too easy for people warning to rip avatars 😂

[tranquil oxide]

Oh yeah, @pseudo jetty have you heard some of the recent drama?

[pseudo jetty]

Cant because of something called blueprint ids

Blueasis got himself striked because of his own brushes and got banned for 100 years, then unbanned as it was a mistake

[jovial marsh]

i rememebr that heh

[split sinew]

tell that to the Disney corp.

[pseudo jetty]

Hm?

[tranquil oxide]

Re: Booth, someone who has been banned a gorillion times has been stealing and reselling them for cheap, making some big names really angry. Since it's trading money and selling stolen goods, it's immediately a huge deal.

I've seen it blow up on twitter lately.

[pseudo jetty]

Seen the page, desc is just a huge amount of copypasta memes

[tranquil oxide]

Plus it's all UGC so it's better/easier to nuke the users.

[pseudo jetty]

vrchat doesnt need to care, the uploader is held responsible

[devout cedar]

I see mp4s of Spongebob episodes and the Shrek movie get passed around a lot

[sick bloom]

[tranquil oxide]

Also, there's a weird animosity between movie world hosts.

[devout cedar]

You can also hide entire albums in a meme

[tranquil oxide]

I've seen some carpet bomb eachother with DMCAs for wanting to be the only movie world hosts.

[pseudo jetty]

Also that person will likely end up in actual legal trouble for pulling that on booth

[tranquil oxide]

I really hope so

[devout cedar]

I remember seeing an mp4 that had Barnacle Boy shooting a laser and featured Metallica's Master of Puppets. Whole album and everything

[pseudo jetty]

For booth you have to disclose your legal info so

[tranquil oxide]

The person doing it is probably not above legal fraud on top of that.

[devout cedar]

Is Discord ever gonna come down on us or leave it be

[pseudo jetty]

You need credit card info to open a shop

if you wanna make money anyways

[devout cedar]

At this point, I might as well share anime episode mp4s with people

[tranquil oxide]

They would if it causes enough problems/disrupts their business enough.

[pseudo jetty]

true that

[sick bloom]

Do I get some late night cereal

[tranquil oxide]

Like, having to process a bunch of unrelated nonsense because one person is busy being an assclown to everyone they can find.

[pseudo jetty]

Some creators live off their avatar sales

[devout cedar]

Discord's not going to come down on it, so might as well

[pseudo jetty]

And seeing whose avatars they are selling for cheap, they deffo picked the wrong target as they for sure have that be a main source of income

You overestimate how rational a pissed person can be

[devout cedar]

There was a short trend on YouTube, where people would upload slowed down versions of music albums to get around the copyright ID system

[tranquil oxide]

I've seen extraditions for less.

Usually they only care if drugs are involved, though.

[pseudo jetty]

Oh well we cant do much but watch so why bother discussing

[devout cedar]

Anime uploads also get by, whether through obscurity or adding video filters/flipping video

[pseudo jetty]

I really need to nap I have like maybe 70 mins left

[tranquil oxide]

"Haha, I forgot how to contract" is terrible.

[pseudo jetty]

Guys this will go nowhere.

[tranquil oxide]

gestures to the state of game markets.

[pseudo jetty]

Well just have to wait and see theres no point arguing about this topic we cant affect it its a private matter

[devout cedar]

Yep.

[tranquil oxide]

I think the part that kills me is it's being performed by someone who can and should and has been banned from VRChat as a service countless times.

[pseudo jetty]

What can you do if someone can create accounts with no connection to prior ones

[paper flint]

Require their fingerprint and DNA

Maybe a photo of their government-issued ID

[pseudo jetty]

I know thats a joke but its impossible for vrc to moderate that and store the data

[paper flint]

That's why it was a joke 😄

[pseudo jetty]

Just saying it before it becomes a debate

[tidal steeple]

i got vr chat today and made a account but idk how to use can someone vc me and guide me thru while i screen share

[paper flint]

Yeah, we use one at work to verify customer identity. Increases the entry bar though

[pseudo jetty]

VRC knows itd make them use most of their userbase so

[tidal steeple]

ah

[devout cedar]

Try one of the support channels

[pseudo jetty]

Same reason they cant ban client users en masse

They would nuke the userbase

[paper flint]

Do they really want a userbase containing third-party clients?

[pseudo jetty]

Thats the sad reality

Its too late

You know what i mean jfc

[tidal steeple]

i dont see support

[pseudo jetty]

Either that or lose a huge chunk of active users that pay for vrc+ and such

All they can do is lure them away from modding their game by adding the features they request and making it safer

[paper flint]

I guess it depends on if the income from those users outweighs the fact they're using third-party clients

[pseudo jetty]

It does by far

[paper flint]

I don't think you're in a position to say that 😄

[pseudo jetty]

I know a lot of people

[brazen basalt]

Curious who you know that's saying that.

[pseudo jetty]

Just having a lot of people who know client users

[brazen basalt]

So...no one internal.

Who can verify the metrics. 😛

[sick bloom]

woah, old man

[pseudo jetty]

If I did I would not disclose

[devout cedar]

Anyway

[brazen basalt]

If you did, and they were sharing that, we'd have a huge fucking problem.

[pseudo jetty]

That stuff stays where its supposed to

[brazen basalt]

I don't think you understand what I'm saying, Paci.

[pseudo jetty]

NDA violations

[brazen basalt]

So you're saying someone is violating NDA.

[pseudo jetty]

No

[brazen basalt]

It sure sounds like you are.

[pseudo jetty]

I dont have staff info

[balmy lion]

[sick bloom]

I think paci is just a giant nerd

Well, giant small nerd

[brazen basalt]

I think people need to stop speaking authoritatively when they don't actually have the authority being claimed. 😛

[devout cedar]

Is he tall or short?

[paper flint]

yes

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah because some of my friends wont stfu about client users ruining their experience

[pseudo jetty]

Im tired sache I wanna nap

[sick bloom]

go nap then!

[brazen basalt]

Do modders have data? Of course they do. A lot of it. But that doesn't really address the point of VRC wouldn't mass-ban modclient users because most of the userbase is.

[hot plume]

Go take a nap then .

[jovial marsh]

you said you were going to nap an hour ago

[paper flint]

pls nap

[devout cedar]

If Paci is short, he's going to outlive some of us 'cause short people live longer than tall ones

[jovial marsh]

o frick

[pseudo jetty]

Its just a guess, because itd be a dumb move knowing how many people use clients

[brazen basalt]

I see why you'd think that.

[tranquil oxide]

Anyone can say "Oh, I'm king chimpanzee and my fictional mod lets me know the colour of your dog", doesn't mean it's real.

[pseudo jetty]

Publics are pain

[devout cedar]

The catch is, short people have more heart problems

[tranquil oxide]

I'm just trying to draw an extremely outlandish example.

[paper flint]

and they can't reach things

[brazen basalt]

You understand I'm part of the proverbial "we" you're speaking of, yes? 😄

[balmy lion]

You got a fan, Sache.

[sick bloom]

as long as this doesnt turn into the nye situation again

[tranquil oxide]

NYE situation?

[sick bloom]

we where in the nye world and some incredibly weird shit happened

[tranquil oxide]

You mean where I got drunk and embarrassed myself in front of tupper and spent over a day sick after that?

[devout cedar]

@barren sluice Get over here.

[obsidian shore]

man modelling hands is one of the hardest things to do but it barely even matters since we can literally see 5 bumps on a circle as fingers

[pseudo jetty]

Ever go to public Room of rain? 90% of trusteds there use clients it hurts

[sick bloom]

then dont do that

[paper flint]

haha

[devout cedar]

Low or high poly?

[brazen basalt]

<citation needed>

[sharp pawn]

vrchat doesn't use vac

[obsidian shore]

i'd say in general

[pseudo jetty]

They dont even hide it, floating above the ground while in prone positions, clipping thru walls, touching each others dynvones

[sick bloom]

I feel like most people use "harmless" clients not the malicious ones

[pseudo jetty]

Well yeah

[brazen basalt]

You said 90%. Show me data, Paci. 😛

[devout cedar]

Low poly hands are a pain in the ass from my experience

[balmy lion]

Pretty sure they use playspace mover to float.

[obsidian shore]

isnt that just an effect of their avatars?

[sharp pawn]

dynamic 🦴

[tranquil oxide]

This is an odd topic, in any case.

[pseudo jetty]

Before those systems were prefabs

[pseudo jetty]

Overexaggeration again

[sick bloom]

late night cereal hits different

[sharp pawn]

There was a really janky prefab for that that involved colliders yeah but it didn't work very well and was killed off at some point

[brazen basalt]

Doing that undermines your point, man. Cmon. 😄

[tranquil oxide]

When you're citing this stuff, you need to be accurate.

[devout cedar]

Alright, new topic

[sick bloom]

I will personally murder you

[tranquil oxide]

I can tell you that my facial hair is shaved in the shape of Sacheverell's face and it's not going to be proven until I take a picture,a nd it's also a lie if I just shaved in Xiexe's face instead.

[obsidian shore]

do you think that goldfish need to go extinct

[sick bloom]

you know whats nice and interesting

[sharp pawn]

Yeah this topic comes up all the time, but for a reason. There's a fine line between being aggressive with banning people for mods and alienating your community tbh

[devout cedar]

I have a bad opinion of Apple products, due to the right-to-repair issue

[pseudo jetty]

I am tired and I already feel like I am in big trouble for my tired rambling

[sick bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U09pEelYWY old japanese car videos

[jovial marsh]

turn ur brain off

[tranquil oxide]

However, I can say as a result of my statement that makes no sense, that at least a few of you are wondering "What sort of drugs is Sham on and... can I have some?"

I assure you, I'm on no drugs.

[paper flint]

https://youtu.be/mR-6HUSYv5Y

[sharp pawn]

Go to sleep paci

[jovial marsh]

no drugs, drugs bad

[brazen basalt]

Not at all m8. Just saying, if you're gonna cite stuff like that, use actual data to back the points. Otherwise it's gonna get discarded. ❤️

[sick bloom]

No

Get good nerd

[devout cedar]

@raw wharf When Paci drops the topic, yes

[sharp pawn]

That's gonna work exactly once gote

Then people will get more crafty

[tranquil oxide]

Some people are persistent and some people seek only to an answer they agree with. There's a lot of complex topics here anyways with an answer that varies depending on the timeframe you're answering about.

[pseudo jetty]

All "data" I have I picked up from friends, observations and just listening to people in vrchat that are well more knowledgable than me

[obsidian shore]

i love when people do extremely sarcastic hearts at the end of their messages

[sharp pawn]

I think the way to go is just provide ingame alternatives to discourage people

[jovial marsh]

they should do stuff like that to make it harder until common peoples cant easily install vrchat mods

[brazen basalt]

That isn't data, that's speculation.

[tranquil oxide]

That's called anecdotal.

[pseudo jetty]

Aaaa im tired

[jovial marsh]

sleep

[paper flint]

They just need to hire people to stand behind every VRChat player and ensure they're using the official client

[jovial marsh]

when ur brain worky come back

[brazen basalt]

oh yes, we'll get right on that. 😛

[lusty spruce]

Refuse to elaborate and go to sleep

[sharp pawn]

People will never stop using and developing mods and that's ok. If you can discourage the majority of dummies from hurting themselves or others by getting a mod to touch each other's boobs and also 20 others that let them do shadier stuff while they're at it, it's good

[pseudo jetty]

Sache why you bully me

[brazen basalt]

No booli m8. But if someone comes to me saying X players are doing Y bad thing, I want to fix it. But I can't do that without data.

[pseudo jetty]

Im dum and I just want this topic to end but it somehow keeps goinnng

[tranquil oxide]

I care much for the wellbeing of everyone and I'd love for people to stop getting hurt over it, too.

[paper flint]

because you keep it going

[devout cedar]

Why not do like Doom and just allow mods?

[tranquil oxide]

Doom is a completely different topic matter!

[lusty spruce]

Doom is not vrc

[pseudo jetty]

I never mentioned them doing bad stuff did I???

[sharp pawn]

But vrc has doom maps

Is vrc actually just doom

[lusty spruce]

It's like removing all laws

[brazen basalt]

You said they used modclients, which as a direct TOS violation, would certainly qualify. 😛

[tranquil oxide]

Doom, and GZDoom, and Zandronum, all allow mods because they're source ports of a 30 year old game with express permission from the original creators because this sort of thing didn't even NEED to be thought about then.

[devout cedar]

It's not uncommon for FPS games on PC to be open to modding

[brazen basalt]

zandronum is dope af

[pseudo jetty]

I need to sleep I realized that shortly after hitting send

[sharp pawn]

Also singleplayer and not a spaghetti mess of an engine

[tranquil oxide]

Hey, @brazen basalt , have you checked out High Noon Drifter?

[brazen basalt]

wat that

[lusty spruce]

I have ptsd from nye rn. @sharp pawn feeling similar way?

[devout cedar]

and not many devs are against it

[tranquil oxide]

GZDoom mod. Pretty fun stuff, makes it wild west-ish.

[brazen basalt]

hm

[lusty spruce]

Yes vrc is an fps

[sick bloom]

I already mentioned that earlier dummy

[brazen basalt]

I mean we could make VRC an fps...

[lusty spruce]

Sache please

[sharp pawn]

What happened on nye? After I left you guys I later just stayed in some friends+ world with a friend

[brazen basalt]

VRBattleRoyale rebrand

[tranquil oxide]

As far as I know it should work in Zandronum as well now, but I'm a bit behind on there. Also, someone did make a VRCdoom but that's SDK2 and old as hell.

[sick bloom]

well, isn't there fps in vrc already

[paper flint]

This brings me onto a random question - what's with the prone animation for a bunch of avatars looking like they're holding a rifle? 😂

[devout cedar]

Minecraft has always been open to modding too

[paper flint]

Is it the 2.0 default anims or something

[lusty spruce]

Yeah I'm talking about the thing that happened when you were there

[sharp pawn]

Yes, it was from the unity asset store

[obsidian shore]

is there a quest compatible fps world lmaooo

[sharp pawn]

oh that guy

[lusty spruce]

Also Pum did you forward the message from that guy?

[sharp pawn]

no because i'm not a silly

[tranquil oxide]

I just suggest High Noon Drifter when most people talk about doom mods. Zandronum can support a lot of what GZdoom does and is more polished for multiplayer.

[jovial marsh]

hehehe that guy

[devout cedar]

Bethesda's allowed Elder Scrolls and Fallout to be modded

[pseudo jetty]

I shouldve just slept

Why am I dumb

[paper flint]

Agreed 😄

[tranquil oxide]

Bethesda also has tried to monetize modding a dozen times and is sucessfully gimping it with the creation club.

[sharp pawn]

Snow those are all singleplayer games. There's absolutely no policing those

[sick bloom]

Yeah paci go sleep or im coming over

[sharp pawn]

Bethesda's just lucky they have a engine that's mod friendly from the olden days

[obsidian shore]

dikko looks like he has a lot of good modelling tutorials for making 3d characters

[pseudo jetty]

Please gib cuddles I feel dumb

[lusty spruce]

@brazen basalt the guy from nye map said to call you a f.. Because you left without saying you are feeling uncomfortable and that he will talk to vrpill to ban poor Pumkin that decided to stay with him for a bit longer

[sharp pawn]

If it wasn't moddable their subpar games would be pretty dead

[sick bloom]

[jovial marsh]

cant be smart in everything

[brazen basalt]

Dang, that dude holds a grudge.

also lol @ pill banning anyone

[sharp pawn]

[pseudo jetty]

Dam u missed me on nye

[brazen basalt]

Paci m8

u not dumb

and

AND

if u call urself dumb

i will be forced

to

[devout cedar]

Valve's another one

[sharp pawn]

nah he didn't say he'll ask pill to ban me

[brazen basalt]

headpat ur faec

[obsidian shore]

where the heck are you guys going to meet eachother lmao

[jovial marsh]

excessive force uwu

[tranquil oxide]

I'm mildly envious about these headpats.

[pseudo jetty]

I am dum I feel like I said very bad stuff...

[obsidian shore]

I have not met a single person on here in the game itself

[brazen basalt]

You didnt say anything bad m8

[sick bloom]

faec

[lusty spruce]

Pill did post a stretching vid today

[brazen basalt]

faec

[devout cedar]

Would Left4Dead still be going, if not for modding community?

[pseudo jetty]

I saw that, pill moment

[obsidian shore]

I will headpat your face at an accelerated speed to cause PAIN

[sharp pawn]

w-was he stretching before getting ready to ban me

[sick bloom]

yes

[pseudo jetty]

God I wonder if pill still remembers me, he still has me on his friends list after all

[lusty spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7sCRIWJztE look at that s t r e t c h

[sick bloom]

bald man

[sharp pawn]

[obsidian shore]

BALD

[sick bloom]

I kinda forgot he was bald

[lusty spruce]

offbrand Scott Manley

[obsidian shore]

he sounds like seth rogan

[paper flint]

why is it a 360 video lol

beanbag on sofa, wut

[sharp pawn]

quick everyone check for CLUES

[sick bloom]

I didnt even notice that

[pseudo jetty]

He uploaded an image of himself with a mask and the lighting made him look like the "My brother josh blew himself up" guy

[sick bloom]

If I dont see a vrcat I will be disappointed

[sharp pawn]

is there a 27 somewhere in the background

[obsidian shore]

can i participate

[jovial marsh]

i dont feel like i should be watching this

[tranquil oxide]

Thank you.

[devout cedar]

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/are-gaming-companies-maddened-by-mods-51053/

[lusty spruce]

that guy is so weird

[sharp pawn]

Without even reading, most probably don't like them because they're run by old suits that don't understand the internet

[pseudo jetty]

"People asked me if I am autistic... I am autistic as fucc"

[devout cedar]

Nintendo hates game mods

[sharp pawn]

Yeah because they're out of touch boomers

[paper flint]

Nintendo hates their players

[sick bloom]

you know who hates their players, gaijin

[sharp pawn]

I wish people gave nintendo more shit for how they treat their community

[pseudo jetty]

You missed me again so you cant haha

[devout cedar]

SEGA towering over them in that regard

[sharp pawn]

But they're all blinded by nostalgia to care

[pseudo jetty]

no

[sick bloom]

oh you found a mistake in our code that gave everyone free premium? We will take away it all and an extra day because youre in debt

[sick bloom]

you have no choice

[pseudo jetty]

hhh

[sick bloom]

you will be patted

[devout cedar]

Patting animals is good. Patting people is strange

[sick bloom]

False

[paper flint]

dear god that's going to be some fast patting

[sharp pawn]

I would like to try.. ngl 👉 👈

[devout cedar]

If I went on the street and patted a random person, they'd find it weird

[strange mountain]

They can stay mad lmfao shitty game companies can’t fix their game so modders do it for them simple

[sick bloom]

yeah thats why you dont pat random people

you pat the people you care about

[tranquil oxide]

Some places can have different stances.

By the by, I will mod the SHIT out of Java minecraft.

It's not fun unless I can use laserguns and mechanically automated the entirety of this mountain destruction machine.

[lusty spruce]

[tranquil oxide]

All in the name of making wonder bread.

[sick bloom]

[sharp pawn]

I wanna get headpat by people who wouldn't find it wierd

And if you went on the street and did anything to a random person they'd find it wierd

[sick bloom]

pumkin get over here I will give pats

[devout cedar]

I like giving mobs different sounds and changing textures

[paper flint]

vrchat is definitely the place for you

[tranquil oxide]

I just worry my headpats are weird. I'll remember to pat you the next time I see you.

[sharp pawn]

But I wanna feel it

[tranquil oxide]

I have broad, sweeping pats.

[sick bloom]

Haptic pat hat

would probably sell well too, knowing the lonely degenerates in vrc

[tranquil oxide]

Yeah, I can only think of one real example that'd cause that.

[devout cedar]

I feel like headpats were something that started in the furry community and somehow spread to the weeb community

[strange mountain]

https://singularityhub.com/2019/11/25/synthetic-skin-is-bringing-a-sense-of-touch-to-virtual-reality/ the future is now motherfucker

[sick bloom]

No not at all

Pats are just a natural thing, why do you think we pat cats

[strange mountain]

Can be stuck to any part of the body

You know what’s about to happen when this shit comes out

[tranquil oxide]

I'm gonna stick this skin on my butt.

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

in relationship getting pats is a perfectly normal thing for ages

[sick bloom]

erpea

[tranquil oxide]

I wanna feel it when I sit on a virtual chair.

[lusty spruce]

shut. your mouthole

[tranquil oxide]

I'm thinking ahead.

[sick bloom]

imagine

[devout cedar]

Maybe in the 2010s

[lusty spruce]

you're just jelly

[sick bloom]

[devout cedar]

But not before

[sick bloom]

Jealous of what

[strange mountain]

Wtf

[lusty spruce]

getting true pats

[sick bloom]

No, I am the one that gives pats

[tranquil oxide]

Look, I endeavour to make you remember me.

Even if you remember me as "The person who stuck synthetic skin on their butt for virtual sitting"

[strange mountain]

Lmfao

[paper flint]

oh man that is how you pat

[strange mountain]

True immersion

[devout cedar]

Mm

[paper flint]

i hope the pat function is thread safe 😬

[strange mountain]

When we can feel in VR it’s a wrap nobody’s leaving it

[devout cedar]

Hmm, I remember "kawaii" and "uwu" getting popular in the late 2000s

[strange mountain]

Im desensitized to that word I find it cringe now

[paper flint]

is it cringe if it's used ironically

[devout cedar]

Then anime became more mainstream and the floodgates opened

[strange mountain]

It’s funny when you make fun of the people who use it, but honestly most people don’t use it ironically they act like loli anime girls when they’re like 20 years old

[paper flint]

https://tenor.com/view/f-bi-raid-swat-gif-11500735

[strange mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-vrchat-head-pat-gif-17596244

[devout cedar]

Welp, I have mindset of a boomer

[paper flint]

some 30 year old guy patting another 30 year old guy

[sick bloom]

[paper flint]

what a world we live in

[stuck crest]

[strange mountain]

Lmfaooooo

[devout cedar]

War has changed.

[jovial marsh]

i want to feel belly

[lusty spruce]

you are not even 30 yet you act like you are 60

[strange mountain]

Oh god I can imagine if you were to say you had synthetic skin applied there people would attack your belly in .5 seconds with tickles

[stuck crest]

what does that matter as long as they love each other

[sharp pawn]

they're not as cute

[devout cedar]

I have different values, Pea

[strange mountain]

I mean you can’t go against love as long as they’re not doing anything with a child it’s good

[obsidian shore]

I'm like half that age

[sick bloom]

waß

[tranquil oxide]

I love spiders.

[obsidian shore]

Was what

[sick bloom]

what are you sinking about

[paper flint]

now this is what the avatar dynamics permission system is for

[lusty spruce]

here I just se you blabing about yadda yadda young people bad, new standards bad, yadda yadda, back in my days

[obsidian shore]

I'm eating ice cream

[strange mountain]

Oh shit not a bad concept I wonder once haptics become mainstream what will be the new top dog vr platform.

[devout cedar]

Yea, cause at times it seems the world is either getting weird or going down a bad road

[obsidian shore]

Back in my day children threw rocks at the "silly man" who used to entertain us every xŕnxshđ

[paper flint]

VR isn't even mainstream yet 😄

[sick bloom]

back in my day,

[jovial marsh]

hehhehehh

[paper flint]

It's getting there thanks to Oculus (which is kind of annoying that it's Oculus but ah well)

[jovial marsh]

oh yea its getting mainstream

[lusty spruce]

people always were weird and always going weird ways. Old standards are no more. World is moving forward.

[jovial marsh]

my irl friends who are normal people are getting the headsets

[paper flint]

don't hurt me like this

[obsidian shore]

Back in my day we didn't have all these anime girls or femboys, we had rocks in the shape of our goddesses and prayed to the gods for a good crop harvest

[strange mountain]

I mean if it makes you feel better then everything is pretty pointless even living basically billions of years from now the planet will cease to exists along with all of us so the things we worry about now really don’t matter in the grand scheme of things so we just all have our fun.

[obsidian shore]

/srs

[paper flint]

synthetic skin dakimakura when

[tranquil oxide]

I'm expecting me to go "wow this feels so real" and someone's gonna swing by as Kiryu Kazama and just beat the crap out of me.

[devout cedar]

2020 threw everything into chaos, and people have been showing their true colors (nastier side)

[strange mountain]

Omg I can just imagine how I talk to my kids in the future hey we had these things called “Femboys” they liked things in their butt

[paper flint]

if you're explaining this to your kids then you've gone wrong somewhere

[jovial marsh]

the birds and the femboys talk

[lusty spruce]

move forward with the world and live your life normally or stay in your old days and suffer is my way to go

[strange mountain]

it’s the world not me if femboys become normalized you’re gonna see them in the street

[obsidian shore]

In the future we'll have virtual girlfriends and boyfriends

[paper flint]

idk man, I've seen the movie Her

[obsidian shore]

That's unlikely to happen if people don't stop acting so perverted towards them

[paper flint]

this is a brand new sentence

[strange mountain]

That’s not stopping people now lmfao

[devout cedar]

2021 was kinda worse.

[obsidian shore]

Makes me wonder how often boys who wear female clothing nowadays get sexually harassed

[lusty spruce]

we have them right now and had them for well over a year now

[formal matrix]

This Christmas just felt like December 25 and thats it.

[obsidian shore]

Source? 💀

[sick bloom]

edating is essentially having a virtual girlfriend

[lusty spruce]

I know many

[devout cedar]

I've heard of people not letting their family members come for holidays due to not being vaxxed, politic shit, stance on Rittenhouse, among other things

[obsidian shore]

Oh no I mean a girlfriend/boyfriend who is entirely ai

[lusty spruce]

oh no not in that way

[sick bloom]

[strange mountain]

I mean although I find the concept weird I don’t shit on people for what they like I wouldn’t really care about it, but I know some people who care too much about it and spend their every waking hour shitting on these kinds of people and the wild thing is there’s so many people who think like that so it’s gonna be a tough pill to swallow for some people when it comes to the lgbt stuff but I think taking the approach of not caring is the best.

Like let people do whatever the fuck they want like as long as they’re not touching up on kids

[rancid tendon]

ayo?

[azure mural]

[lusty spruce]

but I do know people that are far away due to life and other reasons and are edating in vrc. I also know those that met in vrc and then become irl partners

[rancid tendon]

i hate the term edating

[obsidian shore]

The same kind that girls would get

[rancid tendon]

it makes it seem like long distance dating means your relationship isnt real

[strange mountain]

And now we’re in 2020 too

[obsidian shore]

I edated a girl on discord
Did not go well
Never edating again

[paper flint]

ah shit so did I

that was awful @strange mountain

[devout cedar]

But I guess people in America have always been dividing each other over which presidental candidate they voted for and other controversial subjects.. only it's gotten worse

[rancid tendon]

its just like real dating. some people suck. some good are good. i met someone from online irl and they were kinda a jackweed irl. but that doesnt mean meeting someone online will always be bad

[sick bloom]

In my experience it's not like real dating at all

[strange mountain]

Edating is basically advanced friendship you don’t get to do much except flirt if you have VR I guess you can do more but at the same time you’re still not interacting with the real person soooo yeh it’s basically a blind date, but literally.

[sick bloom]

Now, to be fair I have chosen probably the worst girls in the world to ever date irl but still

[strange mountain]

Lmfaooooo 2022 is just 2020 part two

[rancid tendon]

it seriously depends on how you actually treat the relationship. ive been in irl long distance relationships before, so it wasnt any different from that for me.

[devout cedar]

Same here, kinda

[sick bloom]

What about stuff like actually hanging out together, hugs etc I feel at a certain point you have to realize its pretty important

[devout cedar]

The one time I got into e-relationship, the girl turned out to be poly and wanting a baby.

[terse wren]

People hate LGBTQ+ people just wait until dating AI becomes normalized

[sick bloom]

I know that, but most of them do just stay that depending on where the other person from

[rancid tendon]

For me, personally, I don't really need physical affection because my PTSD kinda ruins it for me. I don't wanna get into it, but regardless, VRChat allows me to be affectionate without actually having to be touched. It has helped me get over my problems, slowly

[devout cedar]

After that, much of my interest in finding my other half died

[strange mountain]

I’ve heard of this term called “Discord buddies” there’s some individuals that don’t date officially or anything like that, but they’re good friends and flirt blah blah blah they end up meeting each other irl after a while and then hook up. I think using the platforms as a way to just meet different people isn’t bad as some people might think I mean we all live on the same planet it’s not the other person lives on Uranus if you really interested in them then go meet them.

[sick bloom]

and also you cant just magically visit someone, the further away the more money it costs and not everyone has an endless stream of income

[rancid tendon]

Most of them? What online daters have you met man? All of my friends on VRC who have been in relationships have met each other at some point or have made plans to

[rancid tendon]

Sounds kinda creepy

[strange mountain]

Shouldn’t be a problem if they’re your literal girlfriend or boyfriend save up money to meet them

Wtf lmao

[paper flint]

fuckin C++

[sick bloom]

there's much more to it though, but again from my experience it just dont work out

[paper flint]

i get that u love it but dear god my eyes

[sick bloom]

also sailing and texting isnt a good idea god damn

[paper flint]

what on earth does englishOrdinalNumber do

So it's a big switch statement 😄

[jovial marsh]

your sailign!>!>!>

[obsidian shore]

Yea but it was incredibly rushed
Literally met her on a discord server, friend told us we should date, we talked for 5 days, then we edated for 2 months to the day

[paper flint]

But it could be 😉

Just write cases for the next 100 years or so

You'll be dead by the time it stops working anyway

[jovial marsh]

rushed relationships never work and u got to make sure both people are going into it with the right mindset

[strange mountain]

Well that’s you man it works for some doesn’t work for others rule of thumb get together shit together and pick a good time to meet up, and hey if you don’t wanna deal with that then just date irl like everyone else tells you, but you’re gonna have online daters regardless and it’s here to stay and becoming accepted like you see how many people date online especially during the time we live in.

[rancid tendon]

I mean, that sounds like a you problem mate. Not all online relationships go that way.

[paper flint]

Program a neural network to convert numbers to words 😂

[obsidian shore]

Now I really just want to know a girl for a bit before considering dating her

[strange mountain]

It’s absolutely insane

[paper flint]

That's not very web 4.0 of you

[jovial marsh]

teenage dating is rushed in general and it doesnt help when its eteenage dating lol

[sick bloom]

Yes I died horribly!

[rancid tendon]

shhh they dont like it when you tell the truth

[jovial marsh]

heheh

[obsidian shore]

😔 poor boys heart is broken lmao

[sick bloom]

and ofcourse by some bullshit reason I missed all my torps on a stupid american

[strange mountain]

Just date speedwagon

https://tenor.com/view/speedwagon-jojo-jobro-gif-14786325

Best waifu on god

[sick bloom]

I've edated a girl for nearly a year on discord, was from germany but due to muney I could never finish but honestly I'm happy it never went anywhere

[strange mountain]

You live and you learn except minus the learn part

[sick bloom]

What a weird ass mfer, got angry at me during a game because I was having fun instead of taking it seriously

and its not like anything was at stake with me having fun

[rancid tendon]

oh no. oh god. you met someone like that too?

[sick bloom]

Mhm

[lusty spruce]

same here relationship wise

[rancid tendon]

my ex would get mad at me for not doing well in apex

[lusty spruce]

bruh

[rancid tendon]

that was so fucking toxic and absurd

[sick bloom]

I have done a bit too much edating and I regret all of it but atleast its experience to add

[strange mountain]

Relationships are weird you want them when you don’t have it, but when you have it you don’t want it anymore.

[rancid tendon]

i have no regrets. taught me a lot of lessons without having to see them ever again

[jovial marsh]

yes lots of experience to gain

[sick bloom]

I only still talk to one of them, but theyre in my discord so

[rancid tendon]

ew

[sick bloom]

they're alright, it wasnt a total bitch or anything

[strange mountain]

I dunno bout you guys but I think a waifu body pillow has everything you can ever need

[jovial marsh]

why would you ever talk to someone of the opposite gender omg

[sick bloom]

both just went our own ways knowing edating wasnt the way

[jovial marsh]

you cant just do that Don

[rancid tendon]

🧍‍♂️

[sick bloom]

X3 you're just gae

[jovial marsh]

lmao i wish

i have no further jokes to make about that

[sick bloom]

god I hate british cruisers why couldnt they make their ships better so it could be fun in a virtual game that was made 70 years after

[obsidian shore]

As a British person I'm sorry

[sick bloom]

yeah thats understandable

I feel like if an online thing carries on too long it becomes a bit boring, thats what happened with the one in my discord as well

just lost interest, but we still talk so it fine

[sick bloom]

but if doom is eternal we must cherish what isn't

smh

[obsidian shore]

I will fuck the doom slayer

[rancid tendon]

imagine meme dumping smh

[jovial marsh]

reward for slaying the doom

[strange mountain]

That doesn’t work too much when you apply extreme cases to it

[obsidian shore]

Clap the cheeks

[strange mountain]

Would you cherish the life of some who kicks babies

Don’t think you would.

[sick bloom]

to quote something I posted on ig a year ago "It's ok, look at her, doom is eternal, but anime girls are temporary enjoy them while they last"

meme posting without posting the meme

[strange mountain]

Nah anime girls got nothing on doomguy

[sick bloom]

titties

[jovial marsh]

who says doomguy cant have titties

[sick bloom]

I mean in all fairness Doom guy hella ripped but you know

[strange mountain]

You can see tits anywhere they’re not that cool

[sick bloom]

true

its just fleshy meatbags

[mild nova]

Is someone able to help me with phantom sense

[sick bloom]

some have more some have less, but otherwise not that special

[strange mountain]

Fuck just go on the r/neckbeard subreddit and you can see titties everywhere

[jovial marsh]

heh

[sick bloom]

No manboobs, yikes

[jovial marsh]

hello fellow incels

[strange mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-lmao-laughing-hysterically-cat-gif-16935438

[rancid tendon]

[paper flint]

nichijou best anime

[mild nova]

Is someone able to help me with phantom sense

[rancid tendon]

what about it

[paper flint]

why is her face green doe

[strange mountain]

Never watched it, but the art style is pretty cool

[obsidian shore]

Fellow females of reddit, how boobily do your boobles boob

[jovial marsh]

you dont learn how to get it you just have it or not brother

[sick bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/simply-a-difference-in-skill-yuru-yuri-tower-of-babel-gaming-gif-22177252

[rancid tendon]

Fellow sex havers of reddit, whats the sexiest sex you ever sexed?

[jovial marsh]

dont let people convince you its something you teach yourself they just want to get you to pay them money to teach you something you cant learn

[strange mountain]

Be careful there’s some fucken weirdos who say “I’ll hypnotized phantom sense into you”

[obsidian shore]

tips fedora

[rancid tendon]

hypnotist sappho-

[paper flint]

just send me your passport and photos of you naked

and i can do it for free

[sick bloom]

[obsidian shore]

Send me a picture of your hand and I'll imagine a picture of your hand

[sick bloom]

funny man

[strange mountain]

I remember there was this guy who was asking girls for some pics before the new year started he was saying “It was a special occasion”

[rancid tendon]

i m s o r r y ?

[paper flint]

mans got the hustle

[sick bloom]

Imagine

[strange mountain]

The crazy thing is he probably got one there was a lot of drunk people there

[obsidian shore]

Fellow involuntary celibates of reddit, how many women have you not fucked?

[rancid tendon]

everyone hit ctrl + v and send whatever the last thing you copied was

[jovial marsh]

ive seen people unironically ask for hand pics

[strange mountain]

I mean they sounded like they were about to fall over

[sick bloom]

People willingly and randomly send thigh pics here, so I wouldnt be surprised

[obsidian shore]

I was a victim of this and I think they had enjoyed looking at my hand

[strange mountain]

WTF

[rancid tendon]

send hands

[paper flint]

why would you send them hand pics

[strange mountain]

Ppl send thigh pics

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-tantrums-angry-mad-rage-gif-6063953

[obsidian shore]

Because they asked politely

[sick bloom]

I can only send cat pics

[paper flint]

dem thighs doe

[strange mountain]

I mean that’s exactly what they want

[obsidian shore]

"TundruuuuummmMmmMmm lemme see ur handddd 😳 😳 😳"

[strange mountain]

SHEEESH

[jovial marsh]

i have sent once and only oce

[rancid tendon]

i find it ironic that this gif made my pc lock up

[strange mountain]

Lmao

[obsidian shore]

Hot

[paper flint]

spicy thighs

[obsidian shore]

I want some thighs on my face

[paper flint]

where can i find this avatar

[obsidian shore]

Pideman

Sidpcerman

[lusty spruce]

mood

[rancid tendon]

i crushed someones head with my thighs like a month ago and never spoke to them again

they didnt like it as much as they thought they would

[lusty spruce]

that's the way to go

[strange mountain]

What I don’t understand are the people who look good asf saying they look ugly to then send a picture to a public place saying “How do I look” they do it every fucken day and im just confused they probably have like lines of people in there dms and social media saying how good they look why do they need more validation of people they don’t even Like?????

[obsidian shore]

YOOO got 3rd place on the duolingo gold league

[rancid tendon]

its called seeking attention

[obsidian shore]

They are weak

[lusty spruce]

attention seekers

[sick bloom]

I call myself ugly, but I am ugly and I dont post my face everywhere

[jovial marsh]

elon musk with mars

milf

[obsidian shore]

This is why earlier when that japanese letters username user posted pictures I ignored her completely and talked about her guitar insteas

[jovial marsh]

milf gf

[rancid tendon]

i want a milf gf

[sick bloom]

x3 calm down you

[rancid tendon]

why was my picture deleted bruh

[misty spindle]

[paper flint]

too saucy

[jovial marsh]

i dunno its not a meme

[rancid tendon]

it had something to do with the converation we were having

and she wasnt naked lol

[obsidian shore]

Mods you shouldn't have deleted it you silly

[jovial marsh]

silly

[rancid tendon]

silly baka mods

[obsidian shore]

Both are true

[strange mountain]

I mean I hate my face too, but dam if I only have half of what these ppl have I would feel like a model

[rancid tendon]

compliments have become meaningless to me

[obsidian shore]

Often times when you're insecure about your appearance you're more likely to want more positive attention towards the way you look, hence being an attention seeker

In order to make themselves feel happier about how they look

[sick bloom]

Meanwhile guys still remember a compliment they got several years ago

[obsidian shore]

I got called charming once by a nice girl in vrchat and I miss her every day 🥺

[rancid tendon]

its mostly because a vast majority of the compliments are sexual or come from catcallers.

[coral pewter]

I don't give a damn how I look I just workout, get strong, feel great, and stay healthy.
I don't post pictures of myself for a variety of reasons I'm happy with my own validation.

[sick bloom]

Bruh I had someone ask me to be their bf after like one hour in vrc and that shit just

[rancid tendon]

y o?

[strange mountain]

Every girl I meet more or less bullies me not in a mean way tho well maybe just a little

[coral pewter]

Damn you should go for it, fake anime tiddies on point

[jovial marsh]

grandpa how tf

[sick bloom]

I dont even know how old they are tf yall think im gonna do

[obsidian shore]

Granted I did friend her but we're never on at the same time

[sick bloom]

shut up

[rancid tendon]

am i mean to you

[coral pewter]

Nah jk I've been around people like that, maybe jokingly do it but christ don't do anything serious

[strange mountain]

Oh like I meant meet on the game sorry I should’ve made that clear

[rancid tendon]

damn my feelings

[coral pewter]

One time I was in a NSFW server & some random Asian dude wanted me to date him and I knew him for like a week

[obsidian shore]

Damn why are girls mean to you lol

[rancid tendon]

ayo the rock got nitro? les go buddy

[strange mountain]

Nononono like meet on vrchat like directly in the game

[coral pewter]

[obsidian shore]

I am lucky because I haven't been asked out by anyone

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

it was sarcasm sh

[strange mountain]

I guess im easy to bully

[obsidian shore]

In vr chat I mean

[coral pewter]

Anyways about the Asian dude

Super obsessed with sex & had numerous other 2 week lasting boyfriends/girlfriends, weird dude and was only 18, major red flags

[obsidian shore]

😔

[strange mountain]

I get bullied here on discord too sometimes there were two girls making fun of my voice telling me I sound like the Burger King foot lettuce dude

[coral pewter]

I'm guessing he was lonely or some shit

[rancid tendon]

here's a pro tip for all you dudes out there- when a girl likes you, she'll give you a pet name, bully you, and/or either want to spend a shit ton of time with you or feel bad for wanting to spend time with you

[rancid tendon]

hot

[sick bloom]

I always tease people, dont know when it started but it be like that now

[coral pewter]

Number 15

[rancid tendon]

asian dudes are sexy tho

[strange mountain]

😭😭😭

[obsidian shore]

Thank you I will probably forget this but that's ok

[jovial marsh]

fact

[jovial marsh]

grandpa you're too old for that stop being creepy

[rancid tendon]

good luck o7

[coral pewter]

The worst part is he was a nice dude & I am attracted to asian people but wrong person wrong time. This was like beginning of covid

[obsidian shore]

Reading this again I realise that I sounded a lot more timid than i imagined myself being

[rancid tendon]

yikes

[coral pewter]

He had issues I simply could not tolerate y'know

[obsidian shore]

Was meant to sound like a joke but I just sound like I'm secretly saying uwu after every message

[rancid tendon]

wait is the rock gay?

[coral pewter]

I'm Pan though I lean more towards women nowadays, I had a finding myself journey

[obsidian shore]

Holy shit gay stone

[rancid tendon]

I mean, who doesn't

women are sexy

[sick bloom]

I'm not that old

[obsidian shore]

🪨

[rancid tendon]

men are sexy

everyone is sexy

[jovial marsh]

ok.

[obsidian shore]

@rancid tendon yay

[coral pewter]

I didn't know what I liked quite frankly & tried out a lot of stuff, and ultimately decided women made me feel better more often

[sick bloom]

look that you're a small baby isnt my problem

[coral pewter]

The men where I live are ugly af lol, online though yeah I can see that

[jovial marsh]

.

[sick bloom]

[rancid tendon]

women are really nice and cute, but i just dont quite feel.. fulfilled with them relationship wise? like hell yea, ill cuddle a woman and call her pretty but something dont quite feel right

[rancid tendon]

same-

[coral pewter]

Yeah I get what you mean, I like men's personalities better but usually women overall make me feel better

[obsidian shore]

I find guys really aggressive :/

Sometimes

[rancid tendon]

i like assertive guys, not aggressive guys

[coral pewter]

I connect with men more but I don't find myself psychically attracted to anything besides maybe the privates

Physically*

[rancid tendon]

there's a fine line between the two

[jovial marsh]

s i g m a heehehqwqhe

[rancid tendon]

go die

[obsidian shore]

Yea and I don't even mean romantically aggressive I just mean aggressive in personality in general

[coral pewter]

I like men like me, I usually am not a fan of muscle btw despite having quite a bit myself lol

[obsidian shore]

Sugma nutz

[rancid tendon]

i really dont like muscle on men or women. something about it kinda grosses me out, but also its harder to cuddle

[coral pewter]

Of course not all men are like this but I do understand what you mean

The aggression is different with both genders

[jovial marsh]

🤪 😔

[coral pewter]

Men tend to be more physical women tend to be more mental

[obsidian shore]

[sick bloom]

All I care about is if the girls cute , and ofcourse that their personality isnt a total bitch

[rancid tendon]

bruh moment

[coral pewter]

Look like all I want is a girl who likes me and I like back

[rancid tendon]

standards are too high, just gotta care if shes a girl or not

[rancid tendon]

this lmao

[jovial marsh]

my girl has to be based

[coral pewter]

Idc what they look like for the most part but they need to take care of themselves

So I have some limits when it comes to looks but I'm not expecting a busty blonde

[obsidian shore]

I'm glad that the other guys in my class aren't like "I'm gonna slit your throat if you so much as stare at me, cunt" it makes it easier to make friends with them

[coral pewter]

Based

[rancid tendon]

blondes

[strange mountain]

I want a girl that’s based

[sick bloom]

this

[coral pewter]

Yeah most men aren't THAT aggressive lmao

[obsidian shore]

Personally I'm quiet until you get to know me

[rancid tendon]

my type is most definitely dorky guys with dark, shaggy hair, and small redhead girls

[strange mountain]

Like finding a girl that memes around is rare, or maybe I’m tripping

[obsidian shore]

I've been told by my friend that I'm really social awkward until I'm with my friends

[strange mountain]

Who isn’t socially awkward

[paper flint]

based on what

[obsidian shore]

Probably doing it secretly

[coral pewter]

I like guys with a semi-fit bodytype & poofy hair, like some type of half-femboy

[strange mountain]

Based is just a meme word like a girl who doesn’t give a fuk and memes around a bunch

[rancid tendon]

finding girls who meme around is hard

[turbid yew]

https://tenor.com/view/bathrobe-dwane-charles-reed-gif-18393067

[coral pewter]

I don't like actual Femboys though they are a bit much for me

[obsidian shore]

Well I am not the guy for you because I have no muscle whatsoever and I'm skinny 🙂

[paper flint]

Yeah I know 😂 was pulling your leg

[coral pewter]

I like guys with some minor feminine traits

[strange mountain]

Oh

LMAO

[turbid yew]

like all the tiktok girls who meme around

[coral pewter]

I like some muscle because it shows you care about yourself though too much & it's a turn off

[rancid tendon]

im really not a fan of femboys

[strange mountain]

But yeah most girls I meet don’t meme around and that’s ok I wouldn’t reject a girl if she didn’t meme around

[coral pewter]

No offense to them but they are way too sexual most of the time and it's a turn off, I care little for sex.

[obsidian shore]

Based on what

[strange mountain]

DEEZ NUTS

[rancid tendon]

for me its just that im not very compatible with someone whos unable to take charge or be decisive, and assertive

[coral pewter]

Yeah I get this bro

[obsidian shore]

I wanna walk through a park and eat ice cream and hold her hand 😳

[coral pewter]

Speaking mad facts, I want an equal

[strange mountain]

That’s lewd

Hand holding is the ultimate lewd

[stable meadow]

[coral pewter]

Don't say lewd again in my house hold or I will be forced to subtract social credits