general-media

[jovial marsh]

watching Mercedes win literally every gp gets draining

at least red bull is challenging them

[sick bloom]

I mean I probably shouldnt be checking comments under mercedes twitter anyways

saw someone say lewis won his 8th championship, entire comment section was correcting them

[vital cobalt]

new keys :3

[sick bloom]

only 3 times mia

[vital cobalt]

bruh, literally just got new kys

[sick bloom]

but looks nice,

[worldly vessel]

Dear lord

what is that.

[sick bloom]

keys

[lusty spruce]

Pudding gang!

[vital cobalt]

wat

[stuck crest]

i prefer darker keyboards with rgb

[sick bloom]

RGB is gay

[lusty spruce]

pudding keycaps with the frosted thing on the lower side

[vital cobalt]

gah, looks so good

[stuck crest]

people who uses white keyboards are the same users who uses light discord :x

[keen needle]

[worldly vessel]

Sadly "looks good" is an opinion so i can't say you're wrong.
But i personally strongly disagree.

[vital cobalt]

whats wrong with it

[stuck crest]

now the one pea has is badass

[lusty spruce]

"but I want to say you're wrong"

[vital cobalt]

did u see my old one? jfc

[worldly vessel]

Standoff keys, RGB Overload.

The BW design it self isn't bad tho.

[worldly vessel]

I generally really dislike these free keys keyboards, they look akward

[stuck crest]

it looks better that way mia, why the change

[sick bloom]

Woah

[vital cobalt]

it was just RGB'ing cos i just plugged it in

[lusty spruce]

oh Paulie I ordered that numpad you recommended

[vital cobalt]

i have a detachable num pad, i use that for alot of my APM games which kill keyboards, so i only have to replace the num pad

[keen needle]

it looks fine

[worldly vessel]

I don't mean the missing nummad
That's dumb too, but not really a design factor

These Keyboards where the keys are in the air and not even surrounded till the base are just looking super weird

[vital cobalt]

figures thats what u meant by free keys

huh?

it goes to the base

they go inside the case even

the sides are just frosted

its still encapsulated

[stuck crest]

i personally liked keyboards better if they come with numberpads, cuz custom hotkeys

[worldly vessel]

That might contribute to the weird look.

[stuck crest]

[worldly vessel]

That key on it's own looks like some weird design chair

Important question

Where is ya hand rest

[vital cobalt]

i have a few

tho i dont typically use them

[worldly vessel]

You should

[vital cobalt]

if i use one i use the one from my cooler master crystal edition keyboard

[sick bloom]

Imagine hand rest

[vital cobalt]

i dont need one tbf

i rarely even rest my hands on my desk

im a hoverer

[sick bloom]

you're a hoverer without the verr

[nimble creek]

Great podcast episode about AR&VR in the cloud, metaverse and entrepreneurship

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1M1pMfN4KeKcO1OxOGUqqq

[sick bloom]

[vital cobalt]

personally, cudnt give 2 flying fks about the 'metaverse'

[worldly vessel]

While you don't bend in your joint with free floating hand's you also don't reset them at all so cause contant holding stress.

Also, that can't be comfortable over longer time.

[vital cobalt]

you say that, yet ive been doing it for years and participate in my high APM actions

[worldly vessel]

it's not about the performance

[vital cobalt]

it is when u play competative rhythm games

[worldly vessel]

...

That's not the point

[vital cobalt]

thats my point

xd

[sick bloom]

Mia is just a big nerd

[worldly vessel]

Resting your part's and removing stressen when possible isn't bad.
Especially constant monotone stresses.

[sick bloom]

fpauls german is coming through

[vital cobalt]

hovering is fine

very little strain compaired to resting

and can get additional leverage

[worldly vessel]

*to impropper resting.

[vital cobalt]

plays 6hrs in one session

[sharp pawn]

did you get rsi yet

[vital cobalt]

nope

[sick bloom]

Oh yeah I cant draw but I can osu now

[vital cobalt]

1v1 me

[sick bloom]

No

[worldly vessel]

Tetris me.

[sharp pawn]

i got random wrist pains or thumb joint pains and I don't even play rhythm games

[sick bloom]

I said I can osu, but not good

[sharp pawn]

[sick bloom]

also fpaul no thats boring

if I want to stack blocks I can go play minecraft

[vital cobalt]

i rather play DJMax

[worldly vessel]

If i want to click circles i click my good old round windows icon

What even is that comparrison

[sick bloom]

its a comparison

[worldly vessel]

Competetetive Tetris is just as Fun of a Game as Osu! Depending on playerbase.

It's physically taxing from execution but the thing making it really fun is t he mental strategical part that is on top of it.

Rythm game's are just "dumb" execution.

[sharp pawn]

[worldly vessel]

Still fun, i play some too

[sick bloom]

what

[vital cobalt]

what

[sick bloom]

how is it dumb

[vital cobalt]

ur joking right?

[tranquil quarry]

Pumpkin do you have arthritis

[sick bloom]

My brain can barely comprehend 3 star maps

[sharp pawn]

i dunno, isn't that an old people thing

[tranquil quarry]

Usually but not always

[vital cobalt]

rhythm games have so much dept and complexity built from simplicity which is why i love, not to be rude but just because you cant see that dont make it dumb

[sharp pawn]

i haven't had any wrist pains in quite some time now tho

[vital cobalt]

just like i wudnt call tetris players dumb

[worldly vessel]

I think you two don't get the comparrison.

In a rythem game you don't think. You primarily react and execute on inputs.

Tetris Adds a complex thinking chain on top

[sick bloom]

mia how does one setup tablets for clicking circles quickly

[sharp pawn]

and i try not to move my wrist much when playing vr and instead my whole arm

[worldly vessel]

I play Stepmania, Osu! and SoundVoltex my self

Again, these are fun too

[sharp pawn]

but thumb joint pain comes from one handed phone use, stretching weirdly a lot

[vital cobalt]

In a rythem game you don't think
what even

[worldly vessel]

But there is no "thinking" part to it, it's execution

[sick bloom]

what

[stuck crest]

what about DDR?

[tranquil quarry]

How are you going to do the interpretive dance then

[worldly vessel]

That's what the dumb referes to.

It doesn't mean it's dump to play it

[vital cobalt]

there is alot of predictive thinking and pattern recognition

[sick bloom]

I gotta think about when I need to press many buttons and how many times

[vital cobalt]

again just because you dont see it, dont mean its not there

[sharp pawn]

I can make some exceptions

tetris sounds hella boring ngl

[stuck crest]

does flappy bird count as execution?

[sharp pawn]

people can do anything competitively and that doesn't make it much more interesting

[vital cobalt]

i can make the exact same argument that tetris is just a repetitive game where all u do is pattern work

[tranquil quarry]

Competitive toilet cleaning

[jovial marsh]

anyone else get dms about VR Games?

[worldly vessel]

I still think you don't understand what i'm trying to say.
Again i also play and love rythm games.
I even own a DDR Arcade cabinet. (Yes, a real one)
But compared to Competetive Tetris is's a thoughtless execution
It's a reactive game then a proactive thinking one.

[keen needle]

where did fez go

[stuck crest]

ooo fun

[vital cobalt]

Tetris is just a game where u spin shapes, once u understand it its just muscle memory is is quite dumb

[worldly vessel]

You never played Tetris more advanced then.

[vital cobalt]

and u never played rhythm games to a high level

[tranquil quarry]

There's Tetris attack

[keen needle]

paul look mutuals :3

[stuck crest]

thats similar to messing around with a rubiks cube

[vital cobalt]

whats ur point, cos ur only just proving mine

[keen needle]

yo nah ppl who do rubiks cubes are crazy tho

some people do ot in like 5 secobds

[stuck crest]

insanely, yes and good memory

[tranquil quarry]

There's tetrisphere right

[worldly vessel]

Bold claim

[vital cobalt]

likewise

im just rewording what ur saying

[keen needle]

ok both games have high skill caps for different things is that good enough

[worldly vessel]

Sure...

I've not discredited your skill at any point yet you do mine

[vital cobalt]

where did i

[worldly vessel]

"and u never played rhythm games to a high level"

Is quite literally that.

[vital cobalt]

u said the same thing to me

[vital cobalt]

its ok for u tho yeah?

[worldly vessel]

No, i didn't say you're probably just bad at tetris
That references to Competetive with strategies and not just stacking for a score.

VS mean reacting to unpredictable things.

And that's where the difference is

A beatmap is the same no matter how often you play it.

[vital cobalt]

its literally the same thing worded diffrently

[bronze anchor]

Fpaul you do realize most high end competitions with these things have special made maps so you cant practice and do have to react right...

[vital cobalt]

i wasnt even going to bring that up or i would get shit on for some other reason

[bronze anchor]

Getting 3 tries and best one count isnt an odd competition system or part at all

[worldly vessel]

Ofc, but that's what im saying, it's a reaction game.
Rather then a strategical and though game on top

[vital cobalt]

its not tho

[worldly vessel]

Then what is it?

[bronze anchor]

You do have to pre-think your movement
As some things need different swings/taps then others

[vital cobalt]

alot of it is prediction, and pattern recognition

just look at any HD player

[keen needle]

in comp tetris no game ever plays out the same

[worldly vessel]

Correct.

[vital cobalt]

its alot of various kills

[keen needle]

why is hd easier for me than nomod

[worldly vessel]

Can you elaborate on that, cus i don't think i understand that sentence.

[bronze anchor]

Like Tetris is almost no reaction skill and all about planning
Its why all competitve tetris games got the 'up next' block so you can think where to place it
Placing it isnt what you do

So comparing it to beat games is whack anyway

[worldly vessel]

Reaction comes by the competitive part.

[stuck crest]

i don't think tetris is a rhythm game

[vital cobalt]

noone said it was?

[worldly vessel]

You don't know when the enymy send and you need to defend, sometimes it's good to play defensive, sometimes offensive and agressive.

You don't know where their garbage lines end up, that's random too.

[bronze anchor]

Like if you think tetris is a reaction game you didnt play tetris enough

Bruh are you literally talking about the battle royal version...

[worldly vessel]

No im talking 1v1 competetive Tetris

[keen needle]

omg battle royale

[worldly vessel]

Not High Score or Speed Tetris

[vital cobalt]

lol what even

[jovial marsh]

woah! i'm sorry!

[worldly vessel]

And that is the key difference.
Because that's what makes it so much fun to me

[vital cobalt]

so ur not even talking about normal tetris

[worldly vessel]

40L or Blitz are more comparable to rythm games

[keen needle]

paul wanna play a round

[worldly vessel]

But 1v1 Competetive is where the randomness and reactive part comes in

[vital cobalt]

fucking lol, talk about moving the bar

[worldly vessel]

Do you know how to play Tetr.io Rin?

[bronze anchor]

Also Fpaul, even with the junk blocks and lines you send, its not really a reactive game

[vital cobalt]

i would still say that falls under pattern recognition

[bronze anchor]

Maybe if you cant plan for shit, but in most cases it aint hard to plan for it
Its like saying that chess is a reactive game as the opponent can do whacky moves

[vital cobalt]

but its kinda a pointless argument anyways, i just wanted to prove that you was being an ass towards something because u dont fully understand it

[keen needle]

ye a little

[vital cobalt]

then getting defensive when somone did the same to you

[worldly vessel]

I still think you don't understand that i don't intend to discredit any skill on Rythm games.

But that 1v1 Tetris adds that Brain extra on top that (the common) Rythm games can't do.

Either game takes a big ammount of practice and skill to master

[vital cobalt]

your talking about side spin offs not even part of the orriginal game

[bronze anchor]

Its still pretty 5head to compare any rithm game to tetris

[vital cobalt]

so any limitation u create is in ur mind

[worldly vessel]

I mean, it did start on me saying that rythm games to me are a bit more "dumb" then Tetris
By which all i mean to say is, Tetris taxes a lot more mentally then the classic rythem games which are more reactive.
You can't compare em, but that's kind of the point i was trying to make.

[bronze anchor]

Thats an even more whack take

I too compare my cricket games with golf in the mental compartment

[vital cobalt]

holy shit stop moving the bar, modded tetris to 'classic' rhythm now

[fast pelican]

I don't like most rhythm games. I mostly like the Persona Dancing spin off games, and even then only because a combo of the music and hilarious at times cutscenes.

[vital cobalt]

ur arguments just make less sense the more you keep rewording urself

[fast pelican]

Someone will combine rhythm with tetris eventually

if not done already

[worldly vessel]

by classic rythm games i i mean literally nearlly all comon rythm games exclusing what ever special game might be out there that you could provide as a conter argument for some very special mechanic

[stuck crest]

isn't that just Puyo Puyo Tetris?

[worldly vessel]

Nah

[vital cobalt]

u mean ur excluding games that are more out there to prove a point that ur modded game is requires more thought than an class one

[keen needle]

puyo puyo

[worldly vessel]

I have compared against the named games.
E.g Osu!, or Stepmania or SoundVoltex

All that is for is that you don't google up a new random Game that might exist that has special mechanics.

[stuck crest]

stepmania is soo old

[worldly vessel]

Basically i mean beatmap based rythm games

[stuck crest]

do you play beat saber too paul?

[worldly vessel]

Not really, i have it tho

It's fun too but im a fat nerd, way to unsporty.

[stuck crest]

oh nice, beat saber is honestly a bit too advanced for me

[worldly vessel]

@keen needle https://tetr.io/#NLUC

[keen needle]

i never played beat saber llol i should try it out

[sick bloom]

smh

[vale niche]

rin are you serious

[keen needle]

yea

gimme ur steam account so i can try it

[vale niche]

bruh beat saber is like one of the first games to play when you get your vr... how have you never played it before

[keen needle]

wtf...

[stuck crest]

some people are slower than others

[sick bloom]

I also have never played beatsaber

[vale niche]

don you're joking right...

[sharp pawn]

it's really fun but sucks that lots of custom maps are expert++++

But it's very satisfying practicing and beating maps that you couldn't before because of the same physical issues like not being sporty

[sick bloom]

100% serious

[sharp pawn]

but i wouldn't say it's the best vr rhythm thing

[vital cobalt]

i dont like BS due to no judgement window

its a fun game, but not so much of a rhythm game

[sharp pawn]

but it is very good for entry level vr rhythm games

[vital cobalt]

much prefer audica

or synth riders

[sharp pawn]

yeah i actually liked synth riders as well

bs looks a bit more polished in it's visuals tho

I'm still not sure what the perfect rhythm game looks like for me

i only tried bs, synth riders and that one with the gun that i really didn't like

[keen needle]

gun rhythm game huh

[worldly vessel]

I think i have seen that one

[sharp pawn]

the one where the ground moves and you kinda stand still

[sick bloom]

I've seen mia play it

She's just a big ol nerd

[tiny dome]

pistol whip?

[sharp pawn]

yes

i found it really awkward

[tiny dome]

it looks too busy

[vital cobalt]

pistol whip i found to be too simple and not rly rhythm focused, its a basic BPM lining and thats rly it

[keen needle]

hater

[sharp pawn]

i also didn't really like the music

[tiny dome]

BPM but it's an on rails shooter

[vital cobalt]

no, thats just how the game is lol

[keen needle]

wtf....

[vital cobalt]

in their own marketing they refered to the game as more of a cinimatic which i agree with

not saying its a bad game, just that its tie to rhytm is loose at best

[sick bloom]

Rin, mia is an ultra tryhard rythm nerd

[vital cobalt]

wudnt say tryhard, im a casual player, but i mostly play exclusively rhythm games

[sick bloom]

Uhuh

Suuuuuure, very """casual"""

[tiny dome]

rhythm heaven is the only good rhythm games

[sick bloom]

Oh well of to sleep I go, one more day until weekend

[vital cobalt]

most i play dont even have online support or leaderboards

example: groove coaster

which is one of my fav rhythm games

[keen needle]

rhythm gamer

[vital cobalt]

unless u play in an arcade which i guess u could argue ur pplaying against locals, but most people never even played a GC machine so those scores are not exactly competitive either

:3

[sharp pawn]

[keen needle]

mias the type of person to play ddr while holding the back rail

[vital cobalt]

i dont play DDR

[keen needle]

WTF

of all things

[vital cobalt]

im actually dyspraxic so i have major coordination issues

[keen needle]

whats that

[vital cobalt]

i just said lol

coordination issues

[keen needle]

ohjh

[vital cobalt]

i got alot better though rhythm games actually, but some just dont agree with me

4B linear style games rly throw me off, especially when patterns are repetitive chords

[keen needle]

huh

[vital cobalt]

rhythm games are basicly my life lol, they helped me alot though the years with coordination and eventyally became my job to make / work on them too

so yeah, my life is fairly exclusivly rhythm games at this point

[jovial marsh]

good night

[keen needle]

y not the other ones

[vital cobalt]

hm?

[worldly vessel]

Rythm games are great

I really like adaptive ones but sadly the few ones i played aren't too great

[stuck crest]

i'm more into puzzles

[worldly vessel]

Exampel Audio Surf where you can just play your music you want and it generates the notes in real time

But not too much fan of that one

[vital cobalt]

AudioSurf is an awful example of a rhythm game

[worldly vessel]

Tho, for Osu! and Stepmania you will find most of your tracks as a beatmap anyway.

Yeah, Audio Surf is not that great.

[vital cobalt]

its fun, but i rly struggle to call it a rhythm game

i had a few mods for it to make it a bit better, but still

[keen needle]

fooni have u played the escape room game

[worldly vessel]

I mean, it ist guitar hero ish. but also not quite and less complex

it could have some more features with it's playstile that would help it.

Maybe 2 has that. like slide paterns and stuff.

But 1 definitely is rather basic.

It still takes a good amount of recognition and movement on faster stuff.

Movement windows can be really tight.

My most favorite Rythm game is definitvely Sound Voltex at the moment tho

I'm not a grind for speed fan.

Sound Voltex is a nice little change whith it's variations.

4 normal buttons
2 Laser Knobs, 2 Thumb Buttons.

Allows for really interesting patterns and is a really fun playstyle.

[vital cobalt]

play wise its complex, its a puzzle game more than it is a thythm game

[worldly vessel]

Yeah it's a lot more motional

And that's what i like about it

[vital cobalt]

side note, they ran a mod of my mod for the world competition

which i though was kinda funny since i made that to prove a point that the game could be better

[stuck crest]

nope

[keen needle]

D:

[vital cobalt]

then dean (the dev) went and vanished, removed a bunch of features and made them its own game (AudioSheild) which is just a cash grab

nice guy

[stuck crest]

i used to create arrows for stepmania, but that was like 11 years ago

[keen needle]

pro dev

[vital cobalt]

my most played games, and basicly all rhythm

i have a few off steam too

[balmy lion]

Gotta get the new Doom one next.

[fast pelican]

have you tried the Persona dancing games on console?

[vital cobalt]

i dont own a console

[fast pelican]

Oh, that sucks because those are really funny

[jovial marsh]

consoles don't hold enough games for a good price. pc is fine

[vital cobalt]

im a dev, so its just not rly ideal for me

[fast pelican]

I have both

[vital cobalt]

i would have to have to get a TV and shit, then find the strenth to pull myself away from discord etc to play on a console

[stuck crest]

people only play consoles because they don't really care for pc and be a geek

[vital cobalt]

last console i had was a 360 back in like 2009

[stuck crest]

my last console is a ps4 2 years ago

[fast pelican]

I play both because of exclusives I like being on consoles

likewise, there are PC exclusives I like

[vital cobalt]

actually thats a lie, i have a Wii, tho i use it to brush up on my C++ / ASM skills

[fast pelican]

Casio graphing calcs are good for that too. Mostly ASM.

[stuck crest]

[vital cobalt]

yeah but i can do web stuff on the WIi, i normally challenge myself to make a some form of server on it

which is a challenge with < 25MB RAM

currently its a NAS lol

[fast pelican]

my motherboard has a BMC in it with more RAM than that lol

[vital cobalt]

yeah its actually kinda amazing how much that console can do given its limitations

[fast pelican]

That's how Nintendo consoles tend to be

N64 ran FPS games on... 1 MB of RAM

[jovial marsh]

pog

[vital cobalt]

TBF, that wasnt rly bad for back then

[fast pelican]

still impressive though

esp stuff like Perfect Dark

[vital cobalt]

1996 i think?

[fast pelican]

sounds about right

[vital cobalt]

16k was a normal thing in the 90's

[fast pelican]

thought that was 80s

[vital cobalt]

yeah, but was still normal

[fast pelican]

I have an old 1999 PC with 768 MB of RAM

That must have been a lot for the time

[vital cobalt]

i was working on a stores EPOS system a few years ago that ran windows 3.1

and had like 2MB or something

still going, just needed a new PSU

(2MB wasnt alot even for win 3.1)

[fast pelican]

someone with the right skills could probably build a system that uses nothing but CPU cache to run Win 3.1 these days if they wanted to.

[vital cobalt]

i think like 8 - 16MB was normal? i dno its hard to guess it was before my time

CPU cache does nto work like RAM

and cant rly be used like it either

[fast pelican]

yeah itd have to be a custom cpu design

[vital cobalt]

some machines back then had RAM on the chip

and accelerators wer a weird thing back then too

[fast pelican]

I still find it crazy knowing this is in my machine

more L3 than my first PC had RAM

[vital cobalt]

yeah how far computers have come

that a ryzen 9?

[fast pelican]

Mine is a 3955 WX

[vital cobalt]

jelly

[fast pelican]

So, Threadripper Pro

[jovial marsh]

why do we still have the L1 cache if it has nothing

[vital cobalt]

im running a 5800x

u dont need much

L1 is faster than L2/3

[jovial marsh]

oh i see

[fast pelican]

but a LOT more expensive

[vital cobalt]

its 50x? faster than RAM

im just throwing numbers from the top of my head

might be more

depends on ur RAM and CPU too ofc

[fast pelican]

Sometimes, I wish I could disable the cache entirely on my CPU temporarily to see how big of a performance hit would happen

[vital cobalt]

it would hurt

lmao

[fast pelican]

ik it would

[vital cobalt]

im not sure modern CPU's could disable cache tbh

they use it for branch prediction etc

[fast pelican]

I also found that lowering clock speed too much = unstable. At least for RAM.

I got bored and went underclocking to extremes once.

[vital cobalt]

i can imagine this is more painfull on AMD

Zen LOOOOOOVES its RAM and loves it fast

[fast pelican]

Its kinda overstated, at least when you're running RAM in > dual channel.

I have a quad channel config right now

could do up to 8 channels with more DIMMs

[vital cobalt]

im running dual ATM, only cos i chose to get 2x16GB so i can get another 2 down the line if / when i need it

[fast pelican]

5800X cant do more than dual channel anyways

[vital cobalt]

5800X can do quad

and ECC

[fast pelican]

No, only dual with two DIMMs per channel. It can do ECC though.

Only Threadripper and Epyc have > dual channel on AMD's current lineup

[vital cobalt]

fair

im wrong yeah

[fast pelican]

TR Pro is an almost unrestricted Epyc, but much cheaper. Its why I got it.

and single socket ofc

it does up to 8 channels just like Epyc, and has 128 PCIe lanes

[jovial marsh]

u neeerrdds sound like neeerrrddss

[fast pelican]

my motherboard also doesn't need the RAM inserted in any particularly correct order. As an example, my RAM slot 1 is empty.

[covert mica]

Most motherboards unless they're from like the 90s work if you insert them incorrectly, modern ones might have a popup screen telling you to swap the slots, before you boot, but it Will still boot

[fast pelican]

I've seen a modern system that would fail post if you used RAM in the wrong order, or even mixed sizes

[covert mica]

Also i feel good now, i spent the crypto i had laying around to order the vrchat plushy, feels like i got it for free lmao

[fast pelican]

to be fair, it was a cheap OEM pile of trash though

[covert mica]

That might have been the issue

Like i have a board from 2005 with ddr2 that doesn't care

[fast pelican]

I've never seen any retail mobo be picky for RAM

[covert mica]

You can mix all you want

[fast pelican]

but OEM mobos can be horrible

[covert mica]

Yea especially HP with their proprietary ram

[fast pelican]

eMachines was especially bad as well

[covert mica]

[fast pelican]

This thing though... it really doesn't care if you use server RAM, or normal DDR4. Just don't mix the two.

takes almost any kind of DDR4 DIMM that exists, buffered or not

[covert mica]

That's nice

[fast pelican]

expensive, but it can be used for pretty much everything

[covert mica]

That's one thing i like about AMD, their just so open about anything, and doesn't lock stuff for zero reason

[fast pelican]

WRX80 is a beast even for AMD though... 8 memory channels, 128 PCIe lanes

[covert mica]

Someone might pick that cpu up 10 years from now, and actually get some use out of it

[fast pelican]

pretty sure it broke a record for most PCIe lanes on a single socket platform on release

[covert mica]

That's a lot of pci-e Lanes

Multi gamer PC when

[fast pelican]

and the board has 7 PCIe x16 slots

plus 3 NVMe slots

and comes with a card that has 4 more NVMe slots for a total of 7

I'm planning to RAID 0 some NVMes to see how it runs

[covert mica]

I honestly like maybe 2 you will noticed a difference, but more than that, i feel like you are getting into the territory of diminishing returns

[knotty idol]

You two are too big smart

[radiant vigil]

This worth the buy?

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/skytech-chronos-gaming-pc-white-intel-i7-10700k-1tb-ssd-32gb-ram-geforce-rtx-3070ti-win-10-eng/15657561

It’s a pre built but given the shortage it seems to be good enough for what I need. I know I’m going to upgrade the ssd and get a external hard drive.

will it handle unity/unreal projects? is the real question

[balmy lion]

With 32 gigs of RAM and an i7? Maybe 10 FPS.

[radiant vigil]

Yikes seriously?

Would I need a better chipset?

[night coral]

I am big stoopid I understand nothing about this

[balmy lion]

Poe's Law in effect.

[royal wedge]

https://youtu.be/3lvFwuqUjS8

[radiant vigil]

I just want a rig to do unity work on. Gaming is just a hope it works. From the reviews it looks alright and can play on ultra settings fine if I decide to game with this desktop which I probably will

VRchat related stuff like worlds avatars etc

[unborn scroll]

Depends on what your doing if your rendering stuff then prob need something better

[radiant vigil]

Drawing and art programs should work fine on this

[unborn scroll]

Yeah

Vrchat stuff should be fine then

[radiant vigil]

Ah okay, I’m not doing any art school stuff, I wish lol

[balmy lion]

I think you'll be fine with those specs.

[unborn scroll]

If you want to do stuff like 3d rendering then you should prob upgrade

But otherwise your good

[radiant vigil]

Should be a good start for what I want to get into, upgrades can come later.

But the external hard drives are a must tho

[knotty idol]

[knotty idol]

[drifting hearth]

uvu uvu

[tranquil quarry]

Those are pretty good specs

Pretty sure Artemus was being sarcastic

[radiant vigil]

I luckily fast read things so it seems like I have a idea of what I’m talking about when it comes to computers, I’m just a fast visual learner with a photographic memory. But I’m still a complete noob when it comes to pc builds. I have a good general idea of what I’ll need for the stuff I have in mind but not the experience.

Not enough experience I should say

[cold widget]

the specs are fine, vrchat is just a lot of unoptimized user-created content so you'll still lag out and get crashed and stuff like that

depending on your safety settings mostly though

[radiant vigil]

Which I can deal with so that’s to be expected can’t avoid that unless you adjust safety settings. Playing VRchat is a plus, but creating for the platform is more my idea

[cold widget]

those specs will be more than enough

[radiant vigil]

If it can handle halo infinite I’m set

[pseudo jetty]

That 3k dollar machine will crush every task in its path ngl

Its just overpriced...

Very overpriced....

I think youd be better off buying the parts its made of individually

[radiant vigil]

Got it anyways, gpus be expensive anyways these days, from what read too the gpu shortage is for another 2 years.

[pseudo jetty]

I paid maybe 3.2k max for my pc

I have a 3080Ti and an i9 10900k

[radiant vigil]

Tried a few different methods and went with what was easier to gather since I don’t live in the city and mail for delivery right now would take forever for some of the parts.

[pseudo jetty]

God did the prices go up again???

[radiant vigil]

Yeah, the same gpu in that pre built is almost 1400 online

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah but how does any of that add up to 3.5k

1.4k for gpu, 600 tops for that cpu, 300 for mobo maybe, another 300 for ram, 300 for storage

Id say thats maybe 3k

[radiant vigil]

It really doesn’t, likely for the work they put into it building it probably.

[pseudo jetty]

500+ for assembly?

[radiant vigil]

Plus I have to go back Saturday to meet the tech guy to help get everything set up and updated

[pseudo jetty]

I feel bad for you

But if you can afford it whats there to stop you

[radiant vigil]

Guess so, it’s best buy after all. Canadian best buys always overprice things

[pseudo jetty]

At least you get warranty and stuff

Best buy... explains a lot

[radiant vigil]

If I priced checked the same build for elsewhere for cheaper I could have got it for a little less, couldn’t find anything tho.

[pseudo jetty]

Just make sure the thing is actually completely assembled and secured

And do a clean windows install

Definetely do a clean windows install

Who knows how much bloat bestbuy installs

[radiant vigil]

That’s what I plan to do Saturday with the tech guy, he’s also into 3D modelling so that makes it easier to give him an idea on what I’ll want it optimized for

[pseudo jetty]

Yeah

[radiant vigil]

I wanna be able to lay down with fbt without the avatar glitching out jk

[pseudo jetty]

Oh god my gpu costs over 200 more again

How the fuck did the price increase again

[radiant vigil]

Crypto, and the shortage is getting worse because e mining is becoming a thing again

[pseudo jetty]

I saw it sold for maybe 1.5k a month after buying it

now its 2k again

[radiant vigil]

They actually had to stop selling high end gpus online, and are making it you can only get 1 per person.

But you have to go in store and order it etc

[pseudo jetty]

Very fun

[radiant vigil]

Scalpers moving on to gpus since mining rigs are becoming popular again

[pseudo jetty]

That never stopped tho

It should with etherium changing its methods tho

[radiant vigil]

But it does get worse the more people get into it especially with the holiday sales

[pseudo jetty]

Tru

[radiant vigil]

People saying omicron might shut everything down again I can see why people are looking for another method to stay financially afloat by other means. That’s my hunch on the e mining trend and expected shortage of gpus and good chipsets at normal rates.

[jovial marsh]

Watch your local ICU capacity.

In Canada, I think lockdowns will be determined by this. It won't be by number of infections and relatively localized.

[radiant vigil]

Anything I should keep in mind to ask when I talk to the tech guy who’s going to help me set it up at the store when I pick it up?

[jovial marsh]

ICU as in hospital beds. >.>

[radiant vigil]

Oh oops read that wrong 😑

[jovial marsh]

We don't have the data yet to know if this next wave is going to send more people to hospital or not.

[radiant vigil]

Been following that info in the states, a few have been filling up. Number of positive cases and deaths have been higher and faster in the weekly average since omicron was detected

[jovial marsh]

The South African reports show a dramatic drop in admissions after the initial spike. There's 3 variables but I think there needs to be more cleaning on the data since it's hard to determine whether vaccine/previous infection is the driving factor, the variant being less lethal or the people who would of would of been hospitalized already have from previous waves.

The biggest fear is if they are downplaying the statistics inorder to reduce what are pretty much economic sanctions due to lockdown and travel restrictions.

[radiant vigil]

That’s what I heard too something about the data not being updated right.

Last I check was America had 800,000 deaths. That’s a few provinces in canada..

I saw people doing a antivax rally in town the other day, but know their was people who had their vaccination because work made them. It’s weird, because people are pulling “it’s none of your business” card even if they are vaccinated.

Not sure how stating or proving you’re vaccinated is such a privacy issue but oh well

[jovial marsh]

@radiant vigil Watch the UK numbers, compare the hospitalized/infected % compared to delta. There's about a 21 day lag time between waves between the UK and US.

[stuck crest]

[sharp pawn]

[stuck crest]

hello pumkin watcha up to

[sharp pawn]

hello fooni

lying in bed

i fell asleep kinda late but woke up in the morning anyway

[keen needle]

@sharp pawn

[sharp pawn]

so dunno if i should get up

doesn't seem like I'll fall back asleep

thx rin

[keen needle]

u messed up ur schedule?

[sharp pawn]

no, it's actually too good now

but i think i slept like 4 hours

what are you up to fooni

[keen needle]

too good what

how can it be gtoo good

[lusty spruce]

Morning

[keen needle]

h ip;a

[sharp pawn]

waking up in the morning when you don't need to

[sick bloom]

[keen needle]

the morning is nice but i always sleep through it lol

[jovial marsh]

Thanks for the emoji’s

[keen needle]

😾

[lusty spruce]

It's always like that. Dying when you need to wake up but perfectly fine when you don't need to. Humans are weird

[sharp pawn]

[jovial marsh]

[sharp pawn]

[lusty spruce]

[stuck crest]

[jovial marsh]

WSPPP

[sharp pawn]

[jovial marsh]

[stuck crest]

unity baking time

[lusty spruce]

Bake that unity cake

[sick bloom]

My legs hurt incredibly bad

[jovial marsh]

weed cake?

[stuck crest]

[sick bloom]

Feels like the muscles are boutta pop

[stuck crest]

don that means you must have strained your muscles at some point

[lusty spruce]

We don't do that here shoo

[jovial marsh]

same i had to run 50 laps in a certain amount of mins

[sick bloom]

Too much sport for poor me, I need money so I can either fix or buy a new bike

[keen needle]

hi

[jovial marsh]

ahh

[stuck crest]

[sick bloom]

[sharp pawn]

how much is a bike in the land of wooden shoes

[stuck crest]

unsure

[sharp pawn]

how would you know fooni

aren't you from canada

[stuck crest]

ahh no i'm from u.s

[sick bloom]

Depends

Stolen bike very cheap, not stolen bike like above 200 buckaroos

[jovial marsh]

I sent 177,532 emoji’s

Insane

[sick bloom]

[jovial marsh]

[sick bloom]

[fossil turret]

well i am sorry to see one of the most pitiful movies on netflix ( tho the people tried their best )

[keen needle]

ok

[vale niche]

hi rin

[pseudo jetty]

<@&397642795457970181>

Yeah if theyd work id use apps, vrcat

Todays quite active for these bots huh

Ty mods

[jovial marsh]

You can get stolen bikes here foran 50 but if you want a new bike from an actual bike store it's more like 200-300.

It also depends if you want specific qualities, you'd probably pay more for higher quality bikes when it comes to both stolen and new store ones.

[sharp pawn]

Good because I doubt canada is actually real

[sick bloom]

Snusk

[keen needle]

it is real cuz maple syrup is real

[sharp pawn]

That's what they lead you to believe

[keen needle]

WHAT

[lusty spruce]

At least we all agree that bri-ish people don't exist

[sick bloom]

Lemon

[lusty spruce]

We are always here wdym

It's only 11am

[keen needle]

bri ish

[vital cobalt]

Trying to sleep but the sun is trying to blind me

Fairly convinced my cat can teleport too

[sick bloom]

Poor mia

[vital cobalt]

I looked over to see if the cat was ok and when I looked back see was on the other side of me

[sick bloom]

Cats

[vital cobalt]

Theyv teleport

[sick bloom]

They should teach me

Teleportation would be nice for like literally everything

[vital cobalt]

You just need to get out of bed earlyer

[sick bloom]

No I want to have good sleep too

[vital cobalt]

Even if you could teleport, you would still miss the bus

[sick bloom]

But I could teleport to school!

[vital cobalt]

Not allowed

[sick bloom]

Smh

I could teleport to you and finally give some pats

Would save me money too

[vital cobalt]

Not allowed

[jovial marsh]

joinwe need earape noone can wake him up sleeping like a rock ppl IRL cant wake him up 😂😂

[sick bloom]

Wha, why not allowed

[vital cobalt]

Because

[frigid mortar]

[vital cobalt]

One day you will learn the rules of teleportation

Prob not, your called dum after all

[sick bloom]

You just don't want me to visit

I see how it is

[vital cobalt]

If that's how it was there would be a much easier way to say it

[sick bloom]

True

Is the rule that I can't teleport to the destination directly

[vital cobalt]

No

[sick bloom]

Hmmm

Why do you know the rule if you can't teleport

[vital cobalt]

It's my rule

And who said I can't

I just don't do it to not show anyone up ofc

[sick bloom]

Come over here then!

[vital cobalt]

No

Anyways, I go sleep now

Nini

[sick bloom]

Smh

You just don't like me

Night night though mia

[vital cobalt]

If I didn't like you, you wouldn't have my personal discord

[sick bloom]

And also other things

Unless you send sussy stuff to other people too

[vital cobalt]

You leave my socks out of this

Anyways, nini

[sick bloom]

Not the socks

Nini lil dumdum

[vital cobalt]

Ah your going to bed too, nice

[sick bloom]

Bad girl

Shoo, sleep

[vital cobalt]

[sick bloom]

[keen needle]

😼

[obsidian shore]

God I always wish I got more sleep

[keen needle]

ok so sleep more?

[obsidian shore]

Easier said than done time always passes by so quickly

Like it would be 10 am rn and then it would suddenly be 4 pm and I would have no idea what happened inbetween

[keen needle]

ok

[sharp pawn]

rin don't be rude

[keen needle]

idk sounds like a personal problem

[sick bloom]

Smh rin

[obsidian shore]

Smh

[lusty spruce]

Shaking my smh

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

[sick bloom]

Sussy pea

[keen needle]

smh p

[limpid tinsel]

https://c.tenor.com/ra1eKneb4gcAAAAM/sleepy-nichijou.gif

[sick bloom]

Waw it's a suni

[limpid tinsel]

Morning

Last work day

[sick bloom]

[limpid tinsel]

[sick bloom]

Well deserved weekend

And time to bully you in vrc again soon

[limpid tinsel]

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

Henlo Suni

[limpid tinsel]

hewwo

the hdd of my little minecraft server died >.<

[keen needle]

did u lose everything

[fiery meadow]

pain

[sick bloom]

Suni has Mc server and I'm not even invited, so rood

[fiery meadow]

my 3tb hdd died recently too

it was even 7200rpm :^(

[limpid tinsel]

the hdd went from NTFS to RAW for some reason, i managed to get it working again with "hirens boot cd"
copying files now

[sick bloom]

[limpid tinsel]

still has some bad sectors tho, and not all files are 100% integrity... hope the minecraft stuff is still there, otherwise so much time would be lost ;-;

[sick bloom]

[keen needle]

how does it die

[limpid tinsel]

idk, i google it, and apparently this drive was prone to failures >.<

[sick bloom]

I'm guessing it was pretty old

[limpid tinsel]

hmmm.. 2009 already 🤔

[sick bloom]

When the hdd is older then most kids on discord

[limpid tinsel]

xD

i have drives that are older tho, and still operational

[sick bloom]

As long as none are older then me

[limpid tinsel]

dont think i have that old ones (anymore)

[sick bloom]

Well I think anything from my year would be outdated

[limpid tinsel]

my smoll brain forgot your build year anyway

[sick bloom]

Do you even remember how old I am

[lusty spruce]

Don is a smol Dutch gremlin

[sick bloom]

I am not

[limpid tinsel]

25 i believe?

[sick bloom]

Wha

[limpid tinsel]

18?

[sick bloom]

Where does 25 come from

Yes 18

[limpid tinsel]

[lusty spruce]

Tiny Dutch

Barely a teen

[sick bloom]

I am taller though

Also what do you mean barely, I'm 5 months away from 19

[lusty spruce]

[sick bloom]

I am close to America drinking age soon enough

[lusty spruce]

Eeh not really

[sick bloom]

Smol peapea

[lusty spruce]

5 years difference

[sick bloom]

Height though

[limpid tinsel]

im sure i have some old IDE drive's laying around in my storage locker

but not sure what year they are from

[sick bloom]

I c

I still want to know where you got 25 from

[limpid tinsel]

yeah, dont worry about it okay?

[sick bloom]

Sussycro

[lusty spruce]

I have an ide drive. It got wrecked when I was a kid and flipped the psu from 230 to 120V lmao

[sick bloom]

Dummy

[limpid tinsel]

oh that must have released some smoke then

[sick bloom]

I never had a pc until like 2017

[lusty spruce]

I was a kid shut!!

We had a pc since like 2000

[sick bloom]

I mean my dad had one but I never used it

[limpid tinsel]

slowly backs away

[sick bloom]

We went to the library and used the pc there

But it was time limited so you'd keep hopping pcs

[lusty spruce]

When I was like 6-7 I used to play solitaire on my dad pda

[sick bloom]

Ye good old times

[lusty spruce]

You are staying here Suni

[limpid tinsel]

[knotty idol]

[sick bloom]

You're staying or im taking one of your cats

[lusty spruce]

I still have some photos of like 5yo me doing stuff on my dad's pc

Anywho my phone is deded so see ya when I'm back home

[sick bloom]

Bring a charger

You schtewpid veggie

[limpid tinsel]

we had pc's when windows wasn't really popular yet

[sick bloom]

Suni you're nearly a boomer

[lusty spruce]

It will charge rn. My charging port is broken so it'll charge on my desk

[limpid tinsel]

[sick bloom]

Atleast you're a cute nearly a boomer though

[limpid tinsel]

no

[sick bloom]

Then what's this definitely not edited image!

[limpid tinsel]

felt is not the same as being one

[sick bloom]

I still disagree but I respect your opinion

I don't think anyone really thinks they look good

I definitely don't

[sick bloom]

Lyemon

[misty spindle]

[sick bloom]

[sick bloom]

Smh

All I got for food at home is bread, soup, hamburger and poffertjes

[jovial marsh]

hotdogs defrosting in the sink

[sick bloom]

What

[jovial marsh]

What

[sick bloom]

I'm too big for the new busses seats

It's made for Asian people I swear to God

I'm squishing against the window if I sit normally so I gotta take up the other one smh

[jovial marsh]

ah no, I'm in the other side. Small of height as well, but fortunately I can reach almost anything in my daily life (On tiptoe I get the height that the human race understood as "how far does someone average go?")

[sick bloom]

Smol

I'm not even that tall but this bus smh

The seats are just tiny

[jovial marsh]

like children in school hahaha

[sick bloom]

I don't even know why they suddenly brought out these hydrogen powered busses

[obsidian shore]

man you've had a pc for longer than i've been alive

[sick bloom]

Hydrogen engines sound interesting

[jovial marsh]

isnt that still bad for the earth

dont u get it mainly from fracking

[torpid gust]

fr lmao

[torpid gust]

no

hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe

[jovial marsh]

i mean yeah

but aint it all like in the stars and not in the earth

[torpid gust]

no

hydrogen is literally everywhere

i think you’re thinking of helium

[jovial marsh]

maybe

[torpid gust]

helium is what we’re actually running out of

but if we can figure out nuclear fusion then we’ll be able to have practically unlimited helium

but we still aren’t sure how or if that will be possible

[jovial marsh]

that sounds like it will cost alot of energy

sounds absurdly inefficient

[torpid gust]

quite the opposite

[jovial marsh]

huh

[torpid gust]

nuclear fusion would create practically unlimited energy lol

it’s what powers our sun

helium is just a byproduct because the hydrogen would be fusing into it

in the process

[lusty spruce]

it will create a lot of power but unlimited is a very heavy overstatement

[torpid gust]

not really

it would be almost the same as taking a star and incapsulating all of it’s energy

[bronze anchor]

Yes but no

It's not infinitely scalable and the fix all be all
But if we get it to work, it's for sure the biggest leap we made in energy tech in ages

[jovial marsh]

ur mom is infinitely scalable

[torpid gust]

true

and that’s not what i meant

obviously it’s not truly infinite but for us it would be able to power pretty much anything we’d feasibly need to do

[sick bloom]

My legs are in many pain

Oh yep that explains it my leg looks far too flexed

Leg isn't happy

[chrome turtle]

my computer is setup, my vr is now set up, and today is my last work day of the year

officially gaming tonight

[sick bloom]

Waw

[jovial marsh]

🎉

[chrome turtle]

happy holidays gamers

[lusty spruce]

samee. just couple classes today and tomorrow and I'm free till next year

[tawny portal]

[sick bloom]

I have one week left

[jovial marsh]

until wht

[sick bloom]

Vacation

[jovial marsh]

party hard

oo

i start my 3 week break today

i ended up being able to skip school today

[jovial marsh]

😈

[stuck crest]

[sharp pawn]

I remember planning to skip school

In cold winter days

Asking a friend to skip with me and we'd hang around the area until the pizza place opened so we could stay there all day

When you're surrounded by apartment buildings and you see a strip of sunlight and you step in it to warm up

[rancid tendon]

Winter break started yesterday for me because of bomb and shooting threats on TikTok lol

[lusty spruce]

I'm skipping couple lectures in college rn with friends

[sharp pawn]

back in my day

[lusty spruce]

there is no point in waiting 2 hours for 1,5hr lecture that starts at 7:30pm

[sharp pawn]

the only gosh darn tick tock we had was our grandfather clock

[rancid tendon]

Most if not all Illinois schools were warned and a lot of kids aren't going to school because they don't feel safe

Woohoo

[sharp pawn]

I don't think we've ever had a school shooting in my place

Truly an american passtime

[rancid tendon]

Our school didn't have one, but we've been threatened multiple times and the high school in the city over had a school shooting

[sharp pawn]

That's kinda fucked ngl

[rancid tendon]

It's terrifying. But I graduated literally yesterday so I don't have to worry about it anymore

[atomic widget]

"didn't have one" you say it like it's something normal like 1 out of 4 had one

[sharp pawn]

it's america

it's only a matter of time

which is unfortunate, but what can you really do about it

[jovial marsh]

find a way to council them kids who would do that kinda thing

[sharp pawn]

it's a consequence of deeper social and cultural issues

[atomic widget]

mmmhh... more guns smh

[sharp pawn]

yeah just give people more guns

[jovial marsh]

giving guns to dumb americans is bad idea

[sharp pawn]

so you have more shootouts instead of shootings

[jovial marsh]

especially when they are bad parents

[sharp pawn]

maybe if schools had a no gun sign at the entrance

[jovial marsh]

its not like the kids can get the guns themselves

[jovial marsh]

mine does

[sharp pawn]

then you're safe

[jovial marsh]

uhuhh

[terse wren]

I just want to say I hate customs, I had to pay an extra $30 to get my VR lenses because of import taxes, spent over $150 on them now because I payed for faster shipping because otherwise it would've been weeks and my glasses scratch the vr lenses and I can't use my vr without my prescription

[torpid gust]

yup

[limpid tinsel]

[sick bloom]

[limpid tinsel]

Guess what

[lusty spruce]

[sick bloom]

[brave elk]

ChIcKeN bUtT

[lusty spruce]

AtIaSh BuTt

[limpid tinsel]

Japanse school girl swimsuits don't come in tall sizes >.>

[lusty spruce]

Suni is a tree confirmed

[limpid tinsel]

1.82m

[lusty spruce]

Ati no angy plz k thx

[sick bloom]

Suni I thought we already established that

[jovial marsh]

can I have some height pls

[limpid tinsel]

Did we?

[sick bloom]

Yeah definitely

[limpid tinsel]

Oh

[sick bloom]

Suni you talk about swimsuits like non stop

[jovial marsh]

donra ur abt to get put in a swimsuit

[limpid tinsel]

Hard to hide my obsession xD

[mossy plume]

Same customs can suck. Back in the day I imported some games from Japan. And customs held it up for a month then I had to pay fees out the wazoo. It cost triple of what the games costed. Then I payed for next day delivery that was a very pricy import. First and last time doing that.

[sick bloom]

Nah

I'm not into ice swimming I'd rather not die

[jovial marsh]

who says u need to go into ice

oh rigt ur in the north

[limpid tinsel]

Swimsuits can be used in public baths?

[jovial marsh]

SAUNUA

lets all go to a sauna

[sick bloom]

I'm not finnish

Also yeah true suni

I haven't gone to a pool in forever

[brave elk]

You can't just deny my natural state of existence.

[sick bloom]

[limpid tinsel]

I mean me neither, but that's because I'm ashamed of my body...
I do love water activity tho >.<

[sick bloom]

Understandable, poor suni

[stuck crest]

[jovial marsh]

I'm 182 also.

[limpid tinsel]

Sometimes it's hard to find (good) clothes... One of the reasons why i only wear easy stuff >.<

[jovial marsh]

It's not an uncomfortable height. My friend seems to bonk himself a lot more.

For clothes I just wear outdoorsy stuff, it fits better and lasts longer.

[sharp pawn]

174 club

[jovial marsh]

I don't really care about trends I just buy the best.

[sharp pawn]

i want a tall person to grab me

[jovial marsh]

arc'teryx is the best brand at the moment for my clothing

[sick bloom]

Nothing wrong with comfy stuff

Pumkin smol

[sharp pawn]

i'm average

but i used to be absolutely tiny in school

[sick bloom]

I'm 180

[sharp pawn]

like at least one head shorter than the next shortest person

[stuck crest]

i'm tiny right now 😂

[limpid tinsel]

I mean 182 isn't super big, but it is when you try to search for good looking female clothes it's a bit harder

[lusty spruce]

BuTt

[sick bloom]

not that tall for a guy, but for a girl quite tall

I mean my friends 215cm

[lusty spruce]

tell that to me(175 boy). You are tall as hecc

[sharp pawn]

tall girls

[stuck crest]

[sick bloom]

180 and around is just the perfect height, not too tall, not small either

[limpid tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-good-girl-pet-pat-gif-9200932

[sick bloom]

[wise falcon]

crush their head

[sick bloom]

no

[sharp pawn]

woa pea same height

[jovial marsh]

Can't really go wrong with a red plaid, jeans and high tops.

[sharp pawn]

i might just be 175 already too i din't measure in a while

[torpid gust]

im 187

[jovial marsh]

Basically what I wore most of the time.

Grey touqe idk

I kept my head shaved just below the point I could grab it.

[limpid tinsel]

Wah?

[jovial marsh]

Yeah I'd cut my own hair.

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

[limpid tinsel]

Long hair club for me i guess

[jovial marsh]

Idk I see dudes with long hair and it's like bruh you look greasy AF or they spend way too much time on it.

If that's their thing then whatever.

[lusty spruce]

just cut my hair like 2-3 days ago

[sick bloom]

mhm same

[lusty spruce]

I like my hair longer but I need to keep them in order

[jovial marsh]

Imma get mine tomorrow I think.

It's starting to get long enough that it doesn't look kept.

[sick bloom]

I am just ugly no matter how long or short my hair is

[lusty spruce]

you're good shut the up fuck

[jovial marsh]

Well the longer you bear through being ugly, the better it gets.

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

Don looks good trust me

[turbid yew]

Someone here who plays Super People?

[lusty spruce]

just in constant pain mood

[jovial marsh]

I'm telling you once you hit 30 people start thinking more about lifestyle over looks.

[lusty spruce]

I couldn't care less about my looks ngl

[jovial marsh]

Atleast I never thought this way before.

Then it kind of hit me that you live a really long time.

[sick bloom]

I dont care that much but I keep getting shit from my mom and sister about not being in a relationship

[lusty spruce]

it will always be like that tho

[jovial marsh]

Idk I see most my friends I have now live a very similar lifestyle.

[lusty spruce]

family will shit on you for not having anyone because at your age most of them had 3 kids already

[sick bloom]

Imagine

[lusty spruce]

like bruh let me live my life my own way ffs