general-media

[brazen basalt]

yea the shoulder pain thing is especially common for the lapis...cop...whatever the hell that procedure's called

[jovial marsh]

wtf why

[brazen basalt]

like someone knifing you in the ac joint XD

[jovial marsh]

what did you do

[stuck crest]

at least you're not in pain anymore

[brazen basalt]

im not?

[regal hawk]

lmao

[stuck crest]

were you not?

[regal hawk]

Well, he's going to be hurting for like a week

And then

[jovial marsh]

Death.

[regal hawk]

The Phantom Gallbladder Pain Phenomenon

[jovial marsh]

holy hell

[stuck crest]

thats a cool name, but also scary

[brazen basalt]

saying "I dont feel an excrutiating pain thats literally keeping me awake for days, praying for death" and "i can barely move because moving hurts literally everything" is different, ill grant you that

but both are pain of a sort 😛

[regal hawk]

yeah idk it's weird, get like really sharp mild-ish pains a few times a year where my galbladder used to be

[brazen basalt]

yea had that when my appendix ruptured in 2003, kinda waiting for it

literally the same thing lol

omg my appendix hurts, its about to...wait no its not, i dont have one

[regal hawk]

Only had them for a good 5-6 years after

[brazen basalt]

guess on the plus side, i dont have to worry about it anymore XD

[regal hawk]

That's also true

But now you have to deal with acid reflux

[brazen basalt]

and hey, this was a good week for a holiday weekend! plenty of recoup time

well yes, but i had that already

[jovial marsh]

same

[regal hawk]

It's pretty common for your stomach to just over-produce stomach acid to compensate for the lack of bile.

[brazen basalt]

ugh

[jovial marsh]

i hate whe acid reflux happens

[brazen basalt]

though i kinda wonder if a lot of my acid reflux before was because the gall bladder was backed up 🤔

[regal hawk]

Ah, perhaps.

[mossy skiff]

[sick bloom]

[regal hawk]

Just avoid greasy or fried foods for a few months.
I still generally try to avoid them for basically ever, but it's not too too bad now.

[brazen basalt]

ye

[lusty spruce]

Since we are talking about our problems. I've had gastritis. Not as bad thing as yours but the diagnose was put after they shoved a camera dwon my throat

[brazen basalt]

stop deep-throating electronics, pea

omg

[sick bloom]

Gae

[regal hawk]

I was on some rx strength Nexium for a bit after as well, which helped a bit.

[stuck crest]

[brazen basalt]

they got me on some codeine/tylenol combo

[jovial marsh]

lolz

[brazen basalt]

oh hey fun thing, i found out im literally immune to morphine xD

[jovial marsh]

😔

[stuck crest]

i guess thats something

[sick bloom]

Cat pics

[regal hawk]

If it makes you feel better, I've had to have a tiny camera shoved up through my junk before for a thing

[brazen basalt]

...pea's thing made me wince less, omg

[jovial marsh]

idk if ur sharing cat pics don or just want to sneak a gundam in with every icture

[sick bloom]

[lusty spruce]

It was a one time thing and I have strong gag reflex!

[jovial marsh]

[stuck crest]

[sick bloom]

51 he just chills near my monitor

[jovial marsh]

📝

[sick bloom]

[brazen basalt]

also svel i blamed you for the organ failure because i was in pain and needed a scapegoat

and somewhere in the pain haze i remembered picking on u

so

like

[sick bloom]

[jovial marsh]

I accept that responsibility

[brazen basalt]

the sad thing is, gallbladder pain aside, this was hands down the best surgery ive ever had

[sick bloom]

Bad news I gotta work and it's like 34c

[jovial marsh]

clean and quick ?

[brazen basalt]

never been out of a hospital so fast after a surgery before

ye

was out of the place within 4 hours of them removing it

[jovial marsh]

holy hel

no need to eat the hospital food

but yeah, 4h is really fast wtf

[brazen basalt]

tbh food there wasnt bad. first thing they gave me was bacon

[jovial marsh]

oh damn

[lusty spruce]

But yeah half a year on antibiotics and heavy diet plus I got a diagnose that the stomach valve is not closing fully. I'm eternally doomed with reflux

[brazen basalt]

oof

any fix for it?

[jovial marsh]

contact valve for a rma

[icy epoch]

m jnmjjjjjjj

[jovial marsh]

kinda crap ngl

[brazen basalt]

that's a cat typing.

[icy epoch]

e

[jovial marsh]

feels fucking bad

[icy epoch]

i let dbrain rgr

[jovial marsh]

I have that reflux occasionally, usually at night
it's so annoying

[icy epoch]

brr

[brazen basalt]

not a lot of fixes for night reflux either

feelsbadman

[icy epoch]

monnnn n

[brazen basalt]

usually will just get up, drink some water, faff around on the net for an hour or something to let it calm back down XD

[jovial marsh]

aleways keep a bag of some salty food

[silk plinth]

Yall have surgeries?

[jovial marsh]

salt is alkaline. when im suffering out of the blue with gastric acid thats my weapon of choice if i dont have anything else

[lusty spruce]

Only some anti reflux pills n stuff. Luckily it's not a daily thing. It occurs only if I ate a lot of heavy food n stuff

[jovial marsh]

to balance the acid with alkaline

[jovial marsh]

i gotta try that

I usually drink a ton of water

[stuck crest]

sleep in comfortable position

[brazen basalt]

no u

[jovial marsh]

i always do

[hallow tree]

Sounds hot

[jovial marsh]

u r hot

[brazen basalt]

also learned the hard way a long time ago - milk is not the answer

like...at all

[jovial marsh]

Yep

[sick bloom]

How many people here are no appendix gang though

[brazen basalt]

yeeee

[sick bloom]

Fun times

[jovial marsh]

still got mine

[stuck crest]

still have mine too

[brazen basalt]

go get it removed svel, join the cool club

[jovial marsh]

still got it

do we still don't know what's the use of that thing ?

[brazen basalt]

it has literally no use

[sick bloom]

It's like a ticking time bomb

[brazen basalt]

vestigial useless extension of the intestine

[hallow tree]

When date

[sick bloom]

It has no use but attempting to kill you

[lusty spruce]

Still have mine too

[brazen basalt]

it sits there and plots your doom

[jovial marsh]

when i get fbt so we can properly go on a date

[lusty spruce]

Wisdom teeth going sideways anyone?

[stuck crest]

if it has no uses, how in the heck does it grow

[regal hawk]

I still have my appendix.

[brazen basalt]

also that, pea

[jovial marsh]

that's me

removed all 4 at the same time
I hated it all the way

[sick bloom]

Mines not sitting there anymore it already carried out its plan and nearly completed it

[hallow tree]

Real date means private instance date i hope

[brazen basalt]

mine actually ruptured lol

[sick bloom]

Same

[brazen basalt]

and ive got this weird thing with pain receptors, it doesnt always register right. so i didnt realize it ruptured

[jovial marsh]

[brazen basalt]

it was like that for 3 days

[jovial marsh]

u don't wanna share with others ? 👀

[sick bloom]

It was infected and then exploded on me

[brazen basalt]

went into toxic shock before i realized something was wrong

[hallow tree]

What happens in private instance stays in private instance

[jovial marsh]

[sick bloom]

I suddenly started feeling worse because I already couldn't eat but when I took a shower it didn't go away which told me enough

[hallow tree]

Why u bonk me

[brazen basalt]

if u two ERP in publics i will personally....well i cant ban u but I WILL SAY VERY MEAN THINGS AT YOU

[jovial marsh]

cause you deserve to be bonked

[sick bloom]

Yeeees

[lusty spruce]

One of my wisdom teeth went at an angle and broke after pushing itself into nearby tooth

[jovial marsh]

technically you could

and you would have every right to do so

[sick bloom]

Let's point at them silently the entire time

[hallow tree]

Who is dumb enough to do it in public

[brazen basalt]

ill just stand near them, doing the 🤏 gesture

[jovial marsh]

i had 3 of them pushing sideways

[jovial marsh]

the average eboy egirl

[sick bloom]

Seen plenty of people pulling up the naked avatars during amogus

[jovial marsh]

guys call active chat mods, sach said the forbidden E word

[regal hawk]

I will forever force you two to be in knuckles avatars, fight me

[jovial marsh]

I see it happen quite often in populated public worlds

[bronze anchor]

Who's to say they aint already

[sick bloom]

I hate all egirl and ebay models they are the absolute definition of cringe and people behind them are equally cringe

[lusty spruce]

Ebay models

[hallow tree]

Knuckles avatar freaky time lets gooo

[regal hawk]

[jovial marsh]

I saw a knuckle hentai merchant

[regal hawk]

this wasn't supposed to go that way

[brazen basalt]

broke: "do u know the wae"
woke: "do u know the gae"

[sick bloom]

I'm probably the most original mfer with my gundams

[jovial marsh]

which doujins on his stall

some shirts with hentai memes on them

what the fuck

Lube and toys
was pretty fun tbh

[regal hawk]

pride month twitter post?

[brazen basalt]

i mean...could see it happening XD

right before we got crucified, but

[hallow tree]

Each eboi be like:

• 10000 tatoos
• naked chest
• cap
• weird wolf eyes
• tail
• toggleable 'accessories'

[regal hawk]

?

[jovial marsh]

you don't even know if it's a shirt with some holes in it and the body covered in black tattoos

[sick bloom]

And then trying to sound like that amogus dude with a deep voice

[jovial marsh]

pride month is over
it's time for lust month 😎

im waiting for gluttony month

[sick bloom]

I can tell you're faking and you're being bullied by someone with a Dutch accent

[jovial marsh]

and greed month

[brazen basalt]

wish i had a deep voice. i sound like a chipmunk

[hallow tree]

Same

[brazen basalt]

its true

wanna hear

[regal hawk]

SACH WYM

[sick bloom]

I sound like ass as well

[jovial marsh]

ah yes, the Corpse impersonators

[sick bloom]

Peapea can confirm

[brazen basalt]

shhh dont ruin it

XD

[jovial marsh]

poor cow

[sick bloom]

Boomers trying to act cool = vrc team

[regal hawk]

More of a squirrel than a Chipmunk tbh

[regal hawk]

I'm not a boomer

[sick bloom]

[bronze anchor]

You are a boomer by soul nyx

[brazen basalt]

here, listen. im so ashamed https://goo.gl/sJtB15

[jovial marsh]

I prefer that than seeing eboys/egirls complaining or random shitposts tbh

at least the convo is fun

[regal hawk]

What does that even meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[sick bloom]

When vrc staff in publics so I can bully by pointing at them

[brazen basalt]

dont think you can really call a gamedev a boomer, thats like...the opposite

[bronze anchor]

Can i hire you to talk constantly to me?

[jovial marsh]

ohh that's a nice voice

[regal hawk]

lmao

[brazen basalt]

dont think u can afford me m8 lol

[jovial marsh]

sach, asmr's when?

[bronze anchor]

Well, what i said, your soul has the boomer energy.

[lusty spruce]

Sah your voice is so smooth

[jovial marsh]

it got that deep vibration, I like it

[sick bloom]

Me on my phone can't listen to audio

[regal hawk]

[hallow tree]

What about miiine

[jovial marsh]

what about yours

isnt 40ish baby boomers and 50+ boomers?

[regal hawk]

baby boomers and boomers are the same thing wym

[lusty spruce]

I don't have enough material to judge!

[sick bloom]

He's too polish to know

[jovial marsh]

i thought there was a age diggerence

[hallow tree]

[sick bloom]

[regal hawk]

nah it's just a shorter nickname

[jovial marsh]

ah fair enough.

im glad im a millenial

[lusty spruce]

I'm a zoomin Pea

[brazen basalt]

boomers are people born between 1946-1964.

[jovial marsh]

grandpaaaa

[brazen basalt]

aka olds

[sick bloom]

I'm a zoomer that's born too late to be actual 90s kid but born into a poor enough family to basically be one anyways

[brazen basalt]

that right there is why generational labels are stupid and pointless

[bronze anchor]

says you

[regal hawk]

Me over here being an early zoomer but all the zoomers hate me

[jovial marsh]

i'm younger than him !

[sick bloom]

[bronze anchor]

Wait how old are you Nyx

[lusty spruce]

Wdym I love you

[regal hawk]

at least 3

[sick bloom]

I don't hate you nyx but I like bullying people

[brazen basalt]

im technically a gen-x but also a millennial, depending what "expert" you ask. both are wrong, neither label applies right lol

[bronze anchor]

🗒️ ✍️

hmm hmm, noted

[sick bloom]

My mom's a boomer but she's 50 so

[brazen basalt]

50 isnt boomer tho

[bronze anchor]

But if your a zoomer, you cant be older then 25

[brazen basalt]

thats pretty deep into gen-x

[lusty spruce]

Nyx is like 18yo that is good at whatever he is doing as vrc dev

[regal hawk]

no

not quite

[sick bloom]

My mom doesn't understand vaccinations and it's pain to explain

[lusty spruce]

The age or abilities

[regal hawk]

yes

[bronze anchor]

Nyx is the coffee boy, making virtual coffee for the server people

[sick bloom]

I say nyx is 27

[jovial marsh]

just for tupper to spill it in the server room twice per month

[bronze anchor]

As is tradition

[regal hawk]

Nah that's usually my cup noodles cooking in the poorly-placed microwave that kills the servers

[jovial marsh]

food is important so it's forgiven

[brazen basalt]

keep saying you cant stick the microwave on the same UPS as the server clusters man

[sick bloom]

Just sneezed so hard it actually hurt

[regal hawk]

Nah, it's not, it's just the microwaves interrupting the wifi we have the servers on

[jovial marsh]

ruptured brain vein

[sick bloom]

Explosive sneezes very loud very not fun

[jovial marsh]

the Dad™️ sneeze

[brazen basalt]

if we ever figure out VR smell tech, gonna make every instance smell like ramen

[regal hawk]

Although I do trip the breaker in my apartment when I have my oven + a game on

[brazen basalt]

oof

[jovial marsh]

the hell

[regal hawk]

Which is why I have a really nice toaster oven now

[sick bloom]

Very cool

[brazen basalt]

how is that even on the same circuit

[sick bloom]

Kitchen gaming setup

Always near the fridge

[brazen basalt]

oh yea probably

[regal hawk]

idek, the room is attached to the kitchen

[brazen basalt]

weird

[regal hawk]

oh no

my factory has run out of coal

and iron

aaaaaaa

[lusty spruce]

Always fun when that happens

[brazen basalt]

wait...i cant blame svel for organ

i blamed pea earlier

svel i gotta blame u for something else later, im so sorry

[regal hawk]

lemme just break the servers real quick and we can blame svel for it :p

[brazen basalt]

yissss

[lusty spruce]

Back when I started playing factorio I've learnt how to make future proof smelters and I use the design since then

[regal hawk]

inb4 servers actually just explode

[brazen basalt]

pew

[regal hawk]

future proof in what way?

[lusty spruce]

that definitely wasn't caused by you both

[regal hawk]

I've just run into the issue of a single transport belt literally just not being able to supply enough to the huge array of smelters I have

[brazen basalt]

they figured me out really early on when i joined the team, im not allowed near code. or hardware. ...or anything. 😭

[lusty spruce]

As I can replace stone furnace for any later types without major redesign

[regal hawk]

Yeah, Sach just gives us occasional instructions via telegram in order to work

[brazen basalt]

ye

[regal hawk]

No computers for him

[lusty spruce]

Just by replacing like 4 blocks total

[hallow tree]

I have fun at work

[regal hawk]

Ah, interesting.

I've never gotten to the point of electric furnaces yet, but soon™️

[hallow tree]

I yelled at random person asking me a question

[brazen basalt]

oh dude elec furnaces are life

[hallow tree]

And i am having fun

[jovial marsh]

godamnit

[regal hawk]

Current setup is this

[jovial marsh]

[lusty spruce]

I'm gonna get home in less than 2 hours so I'll send you the design

[regal hawk]

hell yea 👌

[hallow tree]

What about avatar you were supposed to find for md

[regal hawk]

yeah, well

it do what it do

[hallow tree]

Inefficient*

[regal hawk]

I design my factories like enterprise webapps are designed

:p

It does, though?

Maybe not on mobile ig

[hallow tree]

Meow

[brazen basalt]

randy

oh my

[lusty spruce]

Welp found it

[hallow tree]

[lusty spruce]

Here just keep one space between stone furnaces

[brazen basalt]

what goes on the belts?

[regal hawk]

output bottom, input top

[lusty spruce]

First you do half coal half iron

Then you put iron only

[regal hawk]

Presumably coal+ore on top, but can switch to just entirely ore later game

[brazen basalt]

thats...pretty dang clever ngl

[lusty spruce]

It will be done be patient!

[hallow tree]

[regal hawk]

My actual factories are super tight, fwiw.

Tried to cram as much as I could in

[lusty spruce]

Stone furnaces are 2x2 and the steel ones are 3x3 so that additional belt and one space between them accounts for that

[lusty spruce]

Oh wow

[regal hawk]

Each one does a thing and sends output back to main bus at the top

[brazen basalt]

what about the arm lengths tho, wouldnt that mess it up later when going to 3x3?

[lusty spruce]

Replace the belt with inserter

[brazen basalt]

oh right yea

[lusty spruce]

Sachee

[regal hawk]

good god how do you manage that

I'm fine sacrificing some efficiency for the sake of manageability

[brazen basalt]

reinstalling factorio, cant even remember what my mess of a factory looks like anymore

[regal hawk]

My brain immediately goes into architecting my factories like I would my software

[brazen basalt]

object-oriented factories? 😏

-runs away-

[regal hawk]

Nah man, we don't do oop here ;p

eh it's not that bad tbh

[brazen basalt]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

[regal hawk]

Only the super old 2017-2018 code is wacky

[lusty spruce]

Holy calling out devs like that

[brazen basalt]

just for that, im never gonna code for vrc again 😭

[regal hawk]

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah if you've ever worked on any kind of production code, shit's just fucked lmao

We've been actively replacing older code because it just grinds everything to a halt under load of like 40k-50k though :p

[brazen basalt]

Really any project is gonna look spaghetti past a certain point of complexity, no matter how clean it is.

[lusty spruce]

The top joke would be removing vrc dev role

[jovial marsh]

Oh hi devs

[brazen basalt]

no u first >:U

[regal hawk]

[jovial marsh]

[lusty spruce]

Yes Gib role so I can remove it

[brazen basalt]

look i just want the vrc yacht without having to actually code anything, is that so much to ask

[lusty spruce]

Back to work again see ya in an hour

[brazen basalt]

later pea

[regal hawk]

Truth is that every project is secretly just a mess in some kind of way.
Even worse when you realize that this also applies to banking systems and systems that essentially keep civilization from falling apart

[brazen basalt]

what little bank code ive seen makes me...salty

[regal hawk]

Just wait til you see healthcare industry code

not too much tbh, small bits here and there that need to be fixed

[brazen basalt]

probably all of it, we're just gonna swap over to vb.net when that happens

wait no - qbasic

[regal hawk]

Let's just rewrite vrchat in udon

[brazen basalt]

XD

[jovial marsh]

[regal hawk]

ok mr hacker man that totally steals money from bank

[brazen basalt]

that is literally the first time ive ever heard anyone say udon was stolen lol. interesting

[jovial marsh]

Hopefully vrchat gets updated to an updated unity engine soon.

To many people crashing my game.

[brazen basalt]

Soon™

[regal hawk]

I'm just gonna screenshot that comment and put it in a frame somewhere to get me an occasional laugh tbh

[jovial marsh]

If they updated to 2021 version

Which they probably won’t

[brazen basalt]

Leaving the game in an eventually depreciated version won't do it any favors either.

[jovial marsh]

And the sdk

Fr

Add at-least more security settings idk

I got crashed even with avatars off

I got an earrappng crasher in my ear

tragic

finally

so annoying

Fr

[regal hawk]

how tragic the master hacker man that can totally hack into banks is gone

anywho

i have plastic now

[brazen basalt]

will probably just hack back in anyway

[regal hawk]

oh nooooo

bro he's gonna hack my vram

[jovial marsh]

L

[brazen basalt]

:OOOO

[jovial marsh]

your memory is not safe here

your bank account - GONE
hacked by an ethical hacker

[regal hawk]

yoooooo I can automate blue science now, lets go

[brazen basalt]

eyyy

alright lets load up factorio and see what disaster i left behind 7 months ago

[regal hawk]

hell yeah

[gloomy tulip]

[brazen basalt]

fml

[regal hawk]

wat

is it just.... gone

[gloomy tulip]

F

[brazen basalt]

dunno, checking

[jovial marsh]

You can probably find a way to go back to the old version

[brazen basalt]

yea seems like. just too old. i havent played since the big overhaul with RnD and all that, so its probably all kinds of bork rn

eh not worried about it, pretty sure it was a shitpost world XD

besides is it really factorio if u dont start over every 6 months

[jovial marsh]

make sure to crank up the monsters to max

[lusty spruce]

I should have 0.15 version

Yes I know I supposed to be gone but I have couple factorio instances saved xd

[brazen basalt]

pea ur gonna get fired omg

u cant live on my couch

[lusty spruce]

It's okie one pea can fit in your pocket

[jovial marsh]

I am still mad Markiplier didn't finish his factorio series on like supercrowded monsters

[lusty spruce]

Also that's my job rn. Sitting in front of a shipping container contemplating about life

Small workplace best workplace

[worn walrus]

I beat my meat and fried it. Had some cherry Cola and a mango. Shit goode

[sick bloom]

Poor peapea

I have to go work in like 2 hours to go sit behind a register for 3 hours

[brazen basalt]

hey man, i kinda miss sitting next to shipping containers and checking out from reality for awhile lol

good times

[sick bloom]

Dealing with people physically

[lusty spruce]

3 hours ez

[sick bloom]

Feels like 6 with what I'm doing

[brazen basalt]

though for me it was oil rig parts, just whole rows of valves

but no people

[sick bloom]

If nothing happens time accelerates but when it's busy running through 10 customers is like 5 minutes

[worn walrus]

when you scheduled for 4 hours but you have to work 8 instead.

[lusty spruce]

I just sit in front of my desk connecting cables for 8 hours

I'm 2 control cabinets ahead of schedule

[regal hawk]

I've had a weird spot of never not being in the tech industry.

[sick bloom]

Can't wait to be done with school and become captain donramax

[brazen basalt]

wat

im not saluting u donra

[lusty spruce]

Okay but for real time to clean up my desk and head home

[sick bloom]

Gae

I wish I could use my phone during work

But nope

[lusty spruce]

Hah I can do whatever as long as I do my job

[brazen basalt]

they lock me in the broom closet during work hours

[regal hawk]

We have brooms?

[brazen basalt]

not anymore 😏

[regal hawk]

i am concerned, where are the brooms sach

[jovial marsh]

How do I get this job what tell me

[worn walrus]

tfw no power washer to clean the garbage area

[brazen basalt]

well i figured the brooms would be better if we turned them into a log fort instead

[lusty spruce]

By being a smart boi and not taking first job that wants you

[brazen basalt]

so its like a short row of wooden logs for an ankle high wall, with a bristle topper

[sick bloom]

Damn both cats are sleeping in my room

[jovial marsh]

do I have to live next to a break of bulk point

[brazen basalt]

ha, shows what u know. i took the first job that would take me in high school and it....okay it literally did nothing lol

[sick bloom]

I didn't have much of a choice

Not even McDonald's wanted me

[worn walrus]

Taco Bell is a good place to work imo.

[sick bloom]

Not American

[worn walrus]

[brazen basalt]

what country u in m8

[worn walrus]

Antarctica

[brazen basalt]

not u

[sick bloom]

I'm living up to the name of the country, netherlands

[worn walrus]

Same place

[sick bloom]

Because it's fucking hot and I'm dying

[brazen basalt]

ah lovely, land of dutch lulz

[sick bloom]

I am small Dutch person

Only 178cm or 5 11

[worn walrus]

Wtf you live in the Nether. 2b2t legend?!?!

[brazen basalt]

that's not smol, wtf

[stuck crest]

does germans yell in anger in the summer?

[sick bloom]

I am small, for a Dutch person

[brazen basalt]

pff

[jovial marsh]

they are tall

[brazen basalt]

Only ever knew one tall dutch guy and he was like a few cm over 2m

it is a land of liessss

wait no, im wrong. Rami is tall af.

okay fine TWO ppl

[jovial marsh]

like you went to the dutchland tho? and saw the people

[brazen basalt]

they came to me, was at cons

i fear visiting dutchland. the sheer level of cultural sarcasm might kill me 😭

[jovial marsh]

Wont it flood over or something when the ice caps melt

I dont think their silly windmill thingys can handle it

[brazen basalt]

thats a lot of places tbh

[sick bloom]

We are literally build around surviving that

Some people literally live on boats in rivers

[worn walrus]

They gonna get wet

[brazen basalt]

but yea like, id like to visit it someday.

only ever been to france and germany so far

just maybe not amsterdam. there has to be something else

[jovial marsh]

The australian outback?

Amazon rainforest?

Madagascar?

[brazen basalt]

swinging too far in the other direction there

[jovial marsh]

I find them pretty hospitable

[sick bloom]

Amsterdam gay

You see the chads are all in the north

Where I am

[brazen basalt]

hence why i said "no amsterdam' lul

everyone goes there, eff that

i wanna see neat things, not "big city but just in another country"

i can get stabbed in an alley in any country, show me something dutchy

[sick bloom]

Groningen, assen, delfzijl

[jovial marsh]

Yeah go to Madagascar I can guarentee it will be a unique experience

[sick bloom]

Friesland, but they speak another language

[brazen basalt]

lolno

[sick bloom]

Not even Dutch anymore over there

[brazen basalt]

that isolated?

[sick bloom]

I have no clue what happend to them to get this bad

[brazen basalt]

also im one of those weird americans that feels super awkward not knowing the local language if i visit somewhere else. feels rude, like im intruding.

[sick bloom]

There's also waddeneilanden

Well there's 3 types of Dutch english, 1) no english 2) broken english 3) english so good you sound british

[jovial marsh]

waddleland

[pallid niche]

traveling europeans would also speak english, you wouldnt be much different, sach

[brazen basalt]

suppose so yea

[sick bloom]

Most people know english so you could buy stuff from stores, just not local ones

Those are usually old people speak Dutch and german

[brazen basalt]

i might be able to squeeze by a little if they know german, but itll be weird

[bronze anchor]

Tbh, most young people in europa do know english and would rather talk english then suffer the broken local language you would speak

[brazen basalt]

well yea thats my whole point lol. i dont wanna butcher someone else's language. feels rude af

like...where do i get off doing that yknow?

[worldly night]

why does it feel rude?

[sick bloom]

Oclac I was on VWO and heard people speaking horrible english

[bronze anchor]

Well if your like moving to a place then its really respectfull to do so
If your visiting its like eh, who cares.

[brazen basalt]

just...idk it just does

[bronze anchor]

Dont say steenkolen engels is bad 😤

[sick bloom]

Shut dicht

[worldly night]

is it rude to go in to a chess club while not knowing chess?

[bronze anchor]

Shut lid

[jovial marsh]

open, breathe in, now close

[brazen basalt]

only french i still remember is "sortie"
...coz thats how i figured out how to escape degaulle airport 🤣

[sick bloom]

Merde

[brazen basalt]

okay that too

[pallid niche]

it doesnt feel rude, but it feels extremely embarasing to not be able to communicate with someone

[brazen basalt]

yea that, mainly

[sick bloom]

Swedish all I know is mjölk

[bronze anchor]

Just do the money and point at things

[worldly night]

oh yeah, how are you guys feeling about seeing ads inside quest headsets?
I am guessing most of you have called this ages ago. But yeah its actually happening.

[brazen basalt]

like, i took the time to come to a place but didnt take the time to learn how to communicate effectively

[sick bloom]

I have a cv1, suffer

[bronze anchor]

Funny as people said facebook would never do it to me in 2018

[sick bloom]

Cats

And cat mug

[jovial marsh]

Wait where are the ads I havent got to use my quest in a bit

[worldly night]

also the claim that they wont use the info collected with the headset to target adds is a complete lie.

[brazen basalt]

c a t s

[worldly night]

they are starting to launch ads inside their headsets, only in a few games at start but it will spread quickly

[bronze anchor]

There is now an API to have facebook adds be displayed inside games
So devs can earn money from the adds they put inside the game
The mobile app also has advertisements now too

[sick bloom]

Adblock quest edition

[pallid niche]

theyre giving devs an option, theyre not forcing it themselves from what i understand

[worldly night]

and once eye tracking becomes a thing in oculus headsets. You will start seeing popup ads across any game.

[jovial marsh]

Oh well this will be great to see

Are they skippable tho

[worldly night]

pff who cares

[worn walrus]

Wtf gundam pfp has gundams

[worldly night]

it will be like youtube all over again

[sick bloom]

Waw

[worldly night]

first one skippable add at the beginning, than one unskippable add, than two, than mid rolls,

[pallid niche]

youll not get ads if you buy Oculus+

[worldly night]

nah

youd get reduced adds.

[jovial marsh]

just don't buy any Facebook product and you'll be fine

[worldly night]

you think facebook is that generous?

[jovial marsh]

fuck facebook

[sick bloom]

Cv1

[worldly night]

well yeah, sadly that just means no VR for most people

[jovial marsh]

tragic

[worn walrus]

Honestly things couldn’t get much worse than they are right now. I’d be better off with a brain implant and just go into the Realm even if it has ads. We living in dystopia now

[worldly night]

• we live in an age where people dont care about their personal information and being controlled by a brand. Its really sad

[bronze anchor]

Always has been a thing

We not just think we are free on this unlike before

[sick bloom]

You just can't escape it

[jovial marsh]

ACCEPT.

JOIN US. typ

[regal hawk]

@brazen basalt IT BEGINS

[worn walrus]

I have a Vive with TPCast. It’s the best wireless headset next to Quest 2. Plus compatibility with vive trackers and knuckles.

[brazen basalt]

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[pallid niche]

the hell is that

[jovial marsh]

[regal hawk]

Fully automated green, red, black, blue science to my lab array

[regal hawk]

Factorio

[pallid niche]

aah

[bronze anchor]

OhnoOhnoOhno

[brazen basalt]

and yes this could all go towards making the rocket, finally
but eff that

[regal hawk]

Also known as: ADHD, The Game™️

[brazen basalt]

moar factory

[bronze anchor]

Poor nyx wont be doing any work for the next few weeks

[worldly night]

you two playing on a server or something?

[brazen basalt]

hey, im on bedrest orders anyway lol. i can afford to lose the time to factorio now 😤

[regal hawk]

Nah I have plenty of stuff to do lmao

[regal hawk]

Nope, just trying to actually progress for once instead of quitting once liquids come in

[pallid niche]

had it on my wishlist for a while, never gotten to it

[brazen basalt]

and i literally just reinstalled it

[regal hawk]

do it

[brazen basalt]

dont get it if you value what free time you still have

[worldly night]

are you playing modded?

[brazen basalt]

it will be gone

[pallid niche]

[sick bloom]

It's 33c save me please

[brazen basalt]

get aircon

u normie

[sick bloom]

Even worse I have to wear long pants to work

[regal hawk]

Somewhat modded. I put my modlist somewhere previously, lemmme find it.

[worldly night]

I have been thinking of getting satisfactory, have you two tried it yet?

[pallid niche]

so far 1 to do it, 1 against
1 - 1

[sick bloom]

I can't pay for airco

[jovial marsh]

play factorio
it's a good game

[brazen basalt]

I've tried satisfactory. its fun, but it doesnt quite scratch the itch for me like factorio does.

idk why. its not a bad game at all tbh

[bronze anchor]

@pallid nicheThe game is without a joke drugs in virtual form

[jovial marsh]

it's less developed

[worldly night]

hmm, I am guessing factorio is more in depth

[regal hawk]

@worldly night

[pallid niche]

[jovial marsh]

you have way less stuff
it's simpler

[worldly night]

appreciate

dont have the game tho 😄 maybe one day

[brazen basalt]

get in loser, we're automating research labs

[worldly night]

But knowing that the game is inspired by minecraft tekkit modpacks I will sink way too much time in it

[brazen basalt]

oh god dont mention tekkit

getting flashbacks

mostly of actually smart people designing stuff i couldnt even begin to understand XD

[worldly night]

yeah

my favorite is still probably tekkit classic

because it had the best balance of needing to automate things yourself, but also not be overwhelming with all its mods

[regal hawk]

My lab array can do 100x research in about 30 seconds apparently

[brazen basalt]

ngl the quarrying was nice

[regal hawk]

time to expand it more

[brazen basalt]

damn man

[sick bloom]

I miss tekkit, I never understood shit but oh well

[brazen basalt]

like all the colors?

[worldly night]

i have only played a bit from new mod packs. Most of the new stuff just has way too much quality of life improvements and just way too many blocks that are useless or redundant

[regal hawk]

Yeah, all of the labs hold each color so far

[brazen basalt]

oh. oh no. nonononononono why no

[regal hawk]

wat

[brazen basalt]

they have an in-game mod loader

i have no excuse now

[regal hawk]

oh, yep lol

[worldly night]

listen

[regal hawk]

it also resolves dependencies :^)

[brazen basalt]

loading literally all of this

[worldly night]

its a rabbit hole you dont want to go down.

[brazen basalt]

too late, ive got nyx's list on another monitor and im putting all of it in

[worldly night]

what part of dev team are you?

[brazen basalt]

i mop the carpets

someone has to

[worldly night]

ah, well damn the vrc team will have the dirtiest carpets out there for the next 5 months

[brazen basalt]

wow rood

ill have u know i use the finest ammonia

[regal hawk]

phrasing

[worldly night]

if you install mods I doubt you will do much working lol

[brazen basalt]

read up, im not doing much rn anyway. post-operation bedrest :p

[jovial marsh]

he got ~~slaves ~~ children to do it for him

[worldly night]

well right now...

[regal hawk]

I have 126 labs currently

[worldly night]

I doubt the game will hook you for only a few weeks

[regal hawk]

It can do 250x in 40s now

[brazen basalt]

oh no, youre mistaken. im already acutely aware of how addicting it is. its already too late.

its been too late for years 🤣

[worldly night]

so its all over

[brazen basalt]

ye, sadly

Fs in chat bois

[worldly night]

many lives were lost in factorios hands. sadly it has taken another victim

[pallid niche]

he's past the event horizon, there's no going back

[slow wind]

Avoid factorios. Got it

[brazen basalt]

these mods install fast af

[worldly night]

just mean s you need more

[regal hawk]

They're pretty tiny

[brazen basalt]

wait hang on, there's two lane balancers

1.2.2 and 1.1.1

guessing 2.2 is the right one

[regal hawk]

I can check, sec

Oh, add Bob's Greenhouse mod as well

[brazen basalt]

omg miniloaders is something ive wanted for ages

yea?

oh the wood

[regal hawk]

Yeah that's the thing

[jovial marsh]

Are there mods that increase fps

[brazen basalt]

flooring

[regal hawk]

Also it's Lane Balancer 1.2.2 from CaptainWHot

[jovial marsh]

Because I need quality of life mods

How to install them?

[brazen basalt]

omg i love nixie tubes

[jovial marsh]

Oops

[pallid niche]

nixie tubes?

[brazen basalt]

ye, its a type of light

[pallid niche]

im sold

[regal hawk]

oh yeeeeeeeee

[brazen basalt]

basically in the stone age, nixie tubes were like digital output for numbers or some letters. but like, with incandescent bulbs

so cool, i love them

[pallid niche]

stone age
nixie tubes
wha

[brazen basalt]

figure of speech. theyre a very old design is what im saying. :p

[worldly night]

wait do you have to make computers mechanically in factorio?

do you have to make your own gates?

[pallid niche]

oh, alright

[regal hawk]

I mean, you can

But making a computer isn't the point of it, it's automating a factory

[brazen basalt]

Dont Potate, Automate

[regal hawk]

It does have a lot of circuitry stuff you can play with for cool stuff

[bronze anchor]

If you want, there are mods that go insane on this

Like close to realistic facotry lines just to make a PCB

And then even more to get automated crafting going

[worldly night]

damn

nice.

[brazen basalt]

omg power comb yes, wire cleaning thank you factorio gods

[worldly night]

I mean I have always though the endgmae of factorio is a big project like making a huge monitor that plays a game with a fully working raycasting engine

[brazen basalt]

this tree mod should be vanilla, wtf

[brazen basalt]

its definitely not the rocket, who even does that XD

[bronze anchor]

Its to put fish into rockets

[jovial marsh]

Anyone wanna play

no

[worldly night]

a few people from what I have seen

[brazen basalt]

theyre playing it wrong

shun them

[worldly night]

lol

"youre doing it wrong" "youre having fun"

[jovial marsh]

@brazen basalt

[brazen basalt]

@jovial marsh

[tiny lintel]

@tiny lintel

[regal hawk]

@regal hawk

aw

[brazen basalt]

XD

[jovial marsh]

Would quality of life mods be bannable in VRC

[tiny lintel]

i beat ya to it!

[jovial marsh]

I’m assuming they are

[tiny lintel]

XD

[brazen basalt]

Mods are against VRC TOS.

[jovial marsh]

Dum

[brazen basalt]

I mean...you asked :p

[tiny lintel]

also, your status is a good question

[jovial marsh]

Oh well

[regal hawk]

Just watched the movie for the first time the other day. Dude is clearly not a human

[brazen basalt]

Now does that mean they will be forever? idk. who knows, the future isn't set in stone 😄

but right now, this minute? yes.

[jovial marsh]

I see

Hopefully it isn’t the case in the future

[tiny lintel]

he seems to cause anomalous affects around him where ever he goes

[jovial marsh]

You guys should put restrictions and checks in for people who hack the game

To many hackers

[brazen basalt]

I will say this much - QoL/accessibility is very important to us too, we want everyone to enjoy VRC. So it's not something we're ignoring or just saying lol u cant play or anything like that.

What sort of checks or restrictions did you have in mind?

on the other topic: paul blart is definitely not human. euclid at minimum.

[tiny lintel]

Deadpool would be classified as an scp

[brazen basalt]

eh not so much. deadpool's pretty easy to understand.

[jovial marsh]

Like anti cheat checks

For people who fly and shit

[brazen basalt]

What I want irl for realsies is SCP 294. Just gimme one of those.

[lusty spruce]

finally home

[brazen basalt]

Do you think we're just ignoring all of that?

[jovial marsh]

I mean are there checks

[brazen basalt]

welcome back pea 😄

[mossy skiff]

the problem with a gameplay focused anti cheat is when worlds have their own gameplay mechs

[jovial marsh]

Ikr

[sick bloom]

peapea back

[tiny lintel]

Blart wouldnt know if he was an scp himself

[jovial marsh]

Blart is SCP

[pallid niche]

back from the frog shop, pea?

[jovial marsh]

[lusty spruce]

nah I go there only on fridays to buy alcohol

[pallid niche]

just like that meme from yesterday, it all checks out

[devout cloud]

I finally got my wii working and I checked my sad card and look at these gems

[brazen basalt]

dang, u got youtube?

[bronze anchor]

Wooww that youtube game is for sure a classic

[brazen basalt]

how'd u fit that on a wii

[devout cloud]

SD card

[mossy skiff]

curious if that youtube app works

[brazen basalt]

probably, cant think why it wouldnt

[mossy skiff]

cant imagine the interface having many of the current features

[jovial marsh]

doesnt work on my 3dsxl thats homebrewed

[lusty spruce]

Sache 52 hours in

[sick bloom]

the servers probably deded

[mossy skiff]

completely killed off APIs cause

guugle

[regal hawk]

it begins

[devout cloud]

The two missing ones are super Mario world and ocarina of time

[jovial marsh]

Those are big ones

do you have fluidity?

[lusty spruce]

darn green circuits

[sick bloom]

I gotta work soon

[tiny lintel]

oof

[chrome turtle]

Rip I was up at 5 with working starting at 7 and just said screw, staying home today

[brazen basalt]

is water still the worst thing ever in this game, i forget

starting a new game, trying to remember what i used to even set up for params

[iron jolt]

water is good, need less walls if there is a lake

[brazen basalt]

nice, nice

definitely not cranking all the resources sliders to max, nope not me

well not max, and not all of them

but always loved making little megacity resource islands

[devout cloud]

I can play brawl again

[lusty spruce]

go big or go homee

but I need to start fresh with Nyx mods cuz they look tasty

[devout cloud]

I forgot brawl had demos

[regal hawk]

They are quite tasty

[slow wind]

Anyone living in the US have recommendations for cheap eyeliner or mascara (I would use it as eyeliner) that is actually waterproof and requires remover or coconut oil to get off?

Someone stole part of my eyebrows and I have to wait for them.to grow back

[regal hawk]

sharpie

[lusty spruce]

also this is amazing to keep track of your production

[regal hawk]

(dont actually draw on your face with sharpies pls)

[regal hawk]

oooh neat, I need to learn how to do stuff like that

[slow wind]

I'm not using sharpie it's too bold XD

[bronze anchor]

smelting goes bbbrrr

[regal hawk]

They make fine-tip sharpies y'know

[pallid niche]

Someone stole part of my eyebrows
excuse me, what :YaoLUL:

[slow wind]

I mean the line itself is too dark

I've used sharpie on my eyebrows as a joke

[regal hawk]

I need to re-do my smelters since I have electric ones now, maybe later tonight or tomorrow

oooh, my bad

[slow wind]

Walked around the house like that haha

[chrome turtle]

Very popular crime recently. Stay safe.

[slow wind]

Yeah :(

[lusty spruce]

if I remember correctly 12 per side saturate one red belt

[brazen basalt]

this crashed ship is new.

can...can i salvage it

[lusty spruce]

yes

[slow wind]

All this just reminds me of minecraft

[sick bloom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/791714479854977074/855068787099172864/20210617_145745.jpg?width=512&height=683

when the water leaks in the kitchen

[slow wind]

Yeah you shouldn't let it do that

[brazen basalt]

open the door
water the floor
everybody walk the dinosaur

[lusty spruce]

also Sache I have 0.16.51 factorio if you want to get back to your old save

[brazen basalt]

nah not worried about it. was old enough that literally i have no idea what it has anymoe lol

already started anew

[lusty spruce]

gib save

[slow wind]

And then tell me to call her??? Why so I can read off our email? 😭

[brazen basalt]

baleeted it already

wish youd asked 30 mins ago XD

[left flare]

i has ocarina of time

[devout cloud]

I have it too

[left flare]

epic

[slow wind]

Bro if you're developing dementia just retire

[brazen basalt]

You uh...okay over there, jigoku?

Been ranting since you got here, and I'm not even sure who or what at.

[lusty spruce]

for my own sanity I keep older instances(if possible that is) just because of mods/saves compatibility checks

[brazen basalt]

Makes sense. Just manually clone em locally i guess?

[lusty spruce]

that goes with ksp too as I'm modding the hell out of it

yes

[brazen basalt]

oh absolutely with KSP. doubly so with mods, everything breaks

[slow wind]

My last 3 messages were rants yeah. Because work. I just don't get it. She didn't seem illiterate before.

[lusty spruce]

just don't let it update automatically and copy the game folder somewhere

[jovial marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-doing-this-cat-just-j-blocked-gif-21619262

[sick bloom]

not a vrc channel

[jovial marsh]

not a vrc channel

[sick bloom]

can this be renamed to not-a-vrc-channel maybe that'll help

[lusty spruce]

this

[coral citrus]

my bad

[lusty spruce]

you can try in #user-support-old

[brazen basalt]

Already have that in the first line of the title, not sure what else to do if people won't read it. :p

[slow wind]

XD lol someone said they've been buying product from.stores and they need a delivery really bad

I'll mark it as urgent

[jovial marsh]

glad im not working with customers

[lusty spruce]

move off-topic somewhere else. Make new category not-a-vrc-channels

[bronze anchor]

Make it so only cool people can see this channel

[lusty spruce]

this

[slow wind]

Don't separate off topic and notavrc

[jovial marsh]

dont make 2

[lusty spruce]

make off-topic a earned thing

[jovial marsh]

nooo

elitism

[slow wind]

Don't listen to pea

[jovial marsh]

make a new category called "not a vrc category"
with a channel named "not a vrc channel"
and everyone has to be named "not a vrc chat | Username"

not good.

then maybe, just maybe people will understand

[slow wind]

Svel that doesn't make sense cos what about when we talk on on topic

[jovial marsh]

talk about any topic u want, just not vrc

[lusty spruce]

off(vrc)-topic smb

[jovial marsh]

you literally have the rest of the server for it

[slow wind]

@-@

[jovial marsh]

brb in few

[slow wind]

Svel usernames aren't channel.specific. they're only server specific

[lusty spruce]

said green name

[slow wind]

Or am I slow

[jovial marsh]

bot will rename you to that as soon as you write in the channel

[slow wind]

And it'll be constantly changing in here too. For me usernames change immediately.

That's as annoying as deleted messages

[lusty spruce]

easy

[slow wind]

No don't want

[mossy skiff]

cat-chat

[lusty spruce]

cat chat but in reality it becomes a proper off-topic

[mossy skiff]

[slow wind]

A call from Veterans of Foreign Wars. Weird organization name.

[bronze anchor]

big brain idea

[mossy skiff]

exactly

[slow wind]

"Unfortunately this is the 4th time I've called"

[pallid niche]

you might as well live stream at this point with how much you talk about everything you do

[lusty spruce]

Streaming-chan vibes

[bronze anchor]

Ghosto this is just a live twitter feed by now

[devout cloud]

Hahaha. Are you alright snake?

[slow wind]

I've talked about around 1% percent of it. Feel free to block me. I won't be offended.

[pallid niche]

zoinks scoob, this is only 1% of my power

[slow wind]

Mortal Kombat or?...

[misty spindle]

Bumbum

[lusty spruce]

Hi lemon

[lethal galleon]

Wasn't it 13%?

[misty spindle]

Hi

[devout cloud]

Time to die sonic

[slow wind]

Lol before it was a feed for some game feature discovery and that was fine :p

[misty spindle]

Original xbox one detected.

[lusty spruce]

game /= personal life

[devout cloud]

And?

[slow wind]

It's still streaming something you're doing in real.time. not just discussion of a game.

[pallid niche]

[lusty spruce]

[brazen basalt]

okay so what im hearing is you guys want an off-topic and an off-topic-plus

[slow wind]

Lol

[devout cloud]

Goodbye Bowser

[pallid niche]

[lethal galleon]

Yes plz

[sick bloom]

off topic limited to all the regulars

[tiny lintel]

wat

[slow wind]

One off topic united under all

[brazen basalt]

we could also add off-topic-gold-members-only

[lusty spruce]

we are trying to come up with an idea of preventing dum people coming here babbling about vrc

[pallid niche]

pea i require all your Alma emotes

[slow wind]

Gold as in paying?

[brazen basalt]

i know, just being facetious 😛

[sick bloom]

I'm already poor

[devout cloud]

Snake has ascended

[brazen basalt]

also off-topic-diamond, off-topic-platinum, and finally off-topic-uwu

[devout cloud]

No

[lusty spruce]

owo-topic

[mossy skiff]

no pls not the uwu

[slow wind]

Nooooo

[sick bloom]

gotta go work

[brazen basalt]

rip

[jovial marsh]

off-topic-uwu sounds pretty neat

[devout cloud]

Someone is about to get rekt

[jovial marsh]

Incredible

[tiny lintel]

it sounds like somethings weird gonna happen there

[brazen basalt]

but then we'd need to be fair to everyone else also

so we'd need an off-topic-weeb

[slow wind]

Kinda just wanna delete hard-to-hear voice-mail

[tiny lintel]

and a off-topic-nerd

[jovial marsh]

ok I can see where this is going
so let's scratch that idea

[pallid niche]

factorio-topic

[brazen basalt]

right exactly

[tiny lintel]

XD

[brazen basalt]

87 off-topics

[mossy skiff]

enabling addiction is not okay

[pallid niche]

whos idea was this

[tiny lintel]

not mine

[brazen basalt]

but wait, it gets better

inside every one of those off-topics,

is a nested "off-topic" of its own

[lethal galleon]

Just talk with the discord devs to enable threads for this server

[sick bloom]

Foldered channels

[slow wind]

Threads?

[brazen basalt]

not doing threads

[slow wind]

Yeah sounds like a bad idea

[pallid niche]

too lazy to moderate

[misty spindle]

Leave.

The exit is that way.

[mossy skiff]

slack has threads, not a big fan of them in this style of chat

[lusty spruce]

cuz they are slacking

[mossy skiff]

[lethal galleon]

They still gonna implement them

[brazen basalt]

no u

[lethal galleon]

Hopefully there will be a toggle for them

[brazen basalt]

also dont run svel off

only i can pick on him >:U

[lethal galleon]

Wait you are going to implement me

[lusty spruce]

bahka the new vrc bot

[pallid niche]

oh no

[jovial marsh]

no u
you are just a lemon !

[tiny lintel]

i betcha if there is gonna be this many off-topics, there is gonna be an entire catagory for them XD

[lethal galleon]

[pallid niche]

that will be the end of vrc

[misty spindle]

!

[lusty spruce]

rename Bot Omega to Bot Bahka

[left flare]

lets just keep it normal lol

[brazen basalt]

Baht.

[lusty spruce]

how about no

no one is normal here

no one is sane

[lethal galleon]

You are exaggerating

[brazen basalt]

wait so you want more? we talking 300 off-topics or is that not enough

i could do 2000 if we really wanna

[tiny lintel]

true

[left flare]

no i mean dont make changes