#vrchat-general-2

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winged sun
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Me going on be chat VRCHAT: time to crash

uncut trail
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Need more fun and interactive worlds 😦 or more spoopy horror maps

sage lodge
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Virtual Market's kinda weird

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Like why

late void
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 26293 users in VRChat currently

sage lodge
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I'm glad they added invite messages

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Maybe next time they'll add actual messages

finite spruce
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Hi

dry tusk
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!online

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is anyone just mega crashing right now ? like 3 crashes in 30 minutes , everyone in the lobby gets an omega vrchat crash

vocal shard
dry tusk
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dam

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first time happend like idk , 1 hour ago ?

vocal shard
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Ye ik

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It happens to me and then I quit playing it

dry tusk
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feels bad

vocal shard
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It’s being like this these days

dry tusk
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Among us with 2 other people and we all just crash the game

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sigh

vocal shard
sweet mason
dry tusk
dry tusk
vocal shard
unreal verge
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Guess I'm lucky. My game doesn't crash without an actual reason but i sometimes get the timeout thing. But rarely.

vocal shard
maiden carbon
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How do u guys found ur regular Friend group in VrChat, i struggle finding Friend, is it bcs like i'm gay and i zct strange or smthing ?

trail imp
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I can't even log in. Fuck this game

nimble sandal
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same

hexed raven
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It's not easy to find a friend group

late void
vapid granite
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Bruh thats like an inspirational quotevrcWOAH

late void
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my best friend i met on vrchat, and i literally met him by sending him a friend request because i liked his avatars and we both made similar stuff. now we work together!

vapid granite
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Thats pretty cool

jovial kestrel
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I love hearing wholesome things like that.

late void
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😊

bold epoch
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hello anyone up for this hour ?

rancid jewel
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 26767 users in VRChat currently

rancid jewel
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uhh 26767 people are

open crescent
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I wish I had a few coins for each time people ask this

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I would put that money to good use

bold epoch
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what do they commonly ask you ?

rancid jewel
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and 54k people in this discord are rated as online

shut apex
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Something smells a bit fishy

rancid jewel
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i am very gooodo at typing nas you ogcan see

hexed raven
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Omg

shut apex
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Yes I am indeed fast at English too

rancid jewel
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egwagdsoawuhsda

hexed raven
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EspaƱol

shut apex
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Public's tend to crash a fair bit

dry tusk
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i type one letter per minute , beat that šŸ˜Ž

rancid jewel
dry tusk
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Right now i am actually sending my backlog , for i am 10 moves in front of you in this conversation

rancid jewel
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yeah well i will you

bold epoch
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anyone at the servers ?

rancid jewel
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 27450 users in VRChat currently

rancid jewel
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approx 27450 people are in vrchat servers

bold epoch
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no I meant

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by the time your typing this everyone on this discord is from different servers

rancid jewel
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there are 180,411 people in this discord server

vocal shard
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im one of them

hexed raven
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Yeah me too

bold epoch
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how do I meet you guys ?

rancid jewel
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you have done that already

bold epoch
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no I havent met anyone here since I have no clue what the names you guys have in vr chat

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so yea I technically not done it

hexed raven
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You ask for someone to play

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Then if they accept, you all for the vrc username

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Then you add them, then you invite/join them

bold epoch
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hmmmm

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may I ask yours then ?

hexed raven
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Depends, How old are you?

bold epoch
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21

hexed raven
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I think I'll pass

bold epoch
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yea its fine enjoy your day

hexed raven
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Thanks, you too

uncut trail
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wtb weekly maintance for vrchat prob help with server stability

hexed raven
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Wtb?

next garden
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wazzup all

lime raven
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wot

still lynx
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uwu

twin fractal
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uwu

shut apex
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Nein

bold epoch
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any diehard fans of evaneglion

shut apex
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Not really but I have seen it

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Isn't there a new movie?

bold epoch
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finished the 94 version and then a recomedation pops up

shut apex
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Ah I see!

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Yeah the new one just came out

radiant acorn
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UH OH

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darn issues

bold epoch
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and I have no idea where to start

vocal shard
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Anyone know when the menu fixes are coming?

rancid jewel
vocal shard
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I need to change up my groups tabs. I'm spending way too much time searching names.

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At least the worlds tabs works most of the time when cruising.

shut apex
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Hmm my group tab works fine?

empty yoke
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any one know why bluetooth setting not available in steam vr

hybrid vault
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Alguien de a qui habla espaƱol?

steel dagger
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Only when a mosquito lands on your balls you will realize that violence is not the answer.

rancid jewel
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oh

north gust
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anyone have a problem joined a world but no ones avi is loading?stuck at loadin

distant oasis
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does anyone know when valve index will be restocked in the EU?

hidden sigil
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@north gust I just wait

robust rapids
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I'm supposed to be asleep but I wanna go in the kitchen and play the pots like drums and beat pans together

vocal shard
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Lol

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Well I was playing VRchat with with Fully body then played Phasmophobia

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Full not fully wtf

robust rapids
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Damn. Cool. I don't have a vr headset yet. I was hoping to get one for my brithday or something

vocal shard
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Ok

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U play VRchat on computer tho?

robust rapids
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Not that often but yes

vocal shard
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U planning to get a Quest 2 or Rifts S?

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Or Index or Valve

robust rapids
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No clue

vocal shard
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If you go out a lot lot vacation or friends house I recommend to get Quest 2

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But if u stay home a lot like me then Rift S

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I do Ice Skating Every weekend tho

robust rapids
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Okay. Thanks for the recommendation

vocal shard
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No problem

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Also I have the Quest 2 and Rift S, also I used to use the Quest 1 but it was trash

tough ocean
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I would get the quest

robust rapids
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Okay

tough ocean
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Easiest to set up and works the best IMO.

vocal shard
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Quest 2 last 2 hours wireless but 4 hours wired

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@tough ocean I agree

tough ocean
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The mic is bad on the rift s

sharp saddle
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Use a headset.

vocal shard
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No its not?

noble depot
vocal shard
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the rift s mic does suck at least in people ive talked to

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I mean it depends on the computer too

sharp saddle
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You can use an external mic with a Rift, you know.

tough ocean
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It just happens randomly

shut apex
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Watch your quest 2 strap snap

vocal shard
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your going to be walking around your room so your pc mic wont cut it

sharp saddle
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I use my Corsair.

noble depot
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Quality-wise it's fine, until it inevitably gets bitcrushed - also yus, external mic

vocal shard
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My Rift S mic wounds fine if it does not I use my USB mic which sound good

tough ocean
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I’ve had all 3 oculus and the quest is the best IMO.

vocal shard
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Same

tough ocean
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Least issues and most comfortable too.

vocal shard
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quest 1?

tough ocean
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Yep.

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Especially if you wear glasses

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The quest 2 is way too small

vocal shard
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thank god im nearsighted I feel bad for people who need glasses for vr

tough ocean
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Yeah it definitely is a pain no lie.

vocal shard
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Not really

tough ocean
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But the quest is by far the best I’ve used.

vocal shard
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My dad tried fishing with the Quest 2

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It was fine

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He wears glasses

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perscriptionated vr lens whos taking the idea

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depends on your head ig

tough ocean
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Yeah glasses will fit in quest 2 but compared to the quest 1 it’s a lot smaller

noble depot
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prescription VR lenses are already a thing o:

noble depot
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VRLenslab and VROptician, though I can't speak personally on either's quality

tough ocean
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I thought about that

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But the quest hasn’t been an issue with glasses. Because they are so easily adjustable.

vocal shard
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didnt realize until now

tough ocean
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Easy to take on and off with no issues.

vocal shard
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the extra resolution on the quest 2 seems all nice until you plug it into your pc

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I need to figure out how to force lower res I know its a thing

shut apex
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ello Jamie how are you?

feral sparrow
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does anyone else on quest 2 just randomly crash or just me

empty yoke
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@feral sparrow same

shut apex
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It may be because it's getting hot? I have no clue

vocal shard
rancid jewel
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yo

shut apex
surreal crypt
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hand it over

shut apex
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Never... it's already eaten

surreal crypt
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fine we'll just have to do this the hard way

vocal shard
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Ive had my rift s for about a year and a half now and its constantly black screening and like 2 times in the past week made my computer restart :/

shut apex
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it's a potato, carrot, onion and pea filled pastrie pie

rancid jewel
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I wonder what neko pea would think of that

patent python
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Vrchat is still having ping issues

shut apex
patent python
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Vrchat needs to get a more stable server setup

shut apex
patent python
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It’s not

rancid jewel
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we literally have this exact conversation on repeat

shut apex
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Are you sure? Because I've been fine

patent python
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And I’ve proven you all wrong

shut apex
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Alright speed test

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Check for any packet loss etc

patent python
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I know it’s not my internet because I already fixed that issue

shut apex
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So you have had issues in the past

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Double check and ensure it isn't happening again

vocal shard
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i have a powered usb hub but my rift still black screens im getting so upset its doing this to me all of a sudden :/

patent python
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I’m getting .31 download and 6.97 upload

rancid jewel
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rift s doing what rift s does best
dying

shut apex
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O h

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You have uhh.. extremely slow internet then

patent python
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No

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Vrchat just takes up more bandwidth than necessary

shut apex
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0.31? DogeLaugh

rancid jewel
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alright now do the test WITHOUT VRChat open

patent python
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It’s usually faster

shut apex
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^^

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Show us without vrc open and then we shall see

rancid jewel
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I use ethernet and I usually get 100+ both download and upload

vocal shard
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agreed weewdiedrich this was a good starter headset but i think im ready to move on from oculus headsets 90% of the games i play are on steam anyway so im looking at steam headsets

patent python
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2.85 download, 10.89 upload

rancid jewel
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good idea sleepinglapcat

vocal shard
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lmao 2.85? hotspot speeds

patent python
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Now I’ll try my non 5g network

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It’s not even that bad

rancid jewel
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mcdonald's wifi

shut apex
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That's your issue

vocal shard
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some other kid came in here complaining on how vrc wasn't working when their download was fucking 3/MBps

cold quiver
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no offense, but 2.85mbps download in 2021 is pretty bad

rancid jewel
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yeah

vocal shard
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same for you man 2.85MBps isng gonna cut it

rancid jewel
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That's
really slow compared to today's standards

shut apex
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3MB is actually gonna have major issues especially when loading an avatar

rancid jewel
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or a world

shut apex
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Like if you have bandwidth issues

patent python
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On my non 5g, I get 6.38 download and 11.67 upload

rancid jewel
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if you get internet that slow using 5g then you're literally living on mars

shut apex
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I have some ridiculous speeds on my ol wired shit but I sometimes drop to 400MB straight

vocal shard
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I think the google speed test borked I get 10mbps but if I download a game its like 100

patent python
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It’s just 5g can’t send a signal through walls as easily

vocal shard
cold quiver
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I wouldnt be surprised if you have connection issues because at 3mbps thats barely 375kB/s, which is barely enough for all the network traffic such as network Ik, voice, world sync, APIs, etc

vocal shard
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yeah there we go now its actually telling me the speed dont use google speed test

rancid jewel
surreal crypt
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5g is worse going through walls?

vocal shard
patent python
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In the same room as the router, I get 20.50 download and 11.80 upload on the non 5g

vocal shard
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if your far away from your router use 2.4ghz

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20 is still slow but that should work

patent python
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Peak download is 27.54

prisma bone
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Are they fixing the VOIP completely dying bug? I am getting it every day at least once

patent python
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Voip?

prisma bone
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Voice

patent python
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Oh

rancid jewel
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they're fixing it in the open beta

prisma bone
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Randomly I cant hear any players and I have to restart my game. It started a couple of days ago and is happening daily

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Oh awesome

rancid jewel
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latest open beta is a release candidate

prisma bone
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Hopefully it fixes a crash where I hear someone's voice go weird then 3 little bits of static

rancid jewel
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and the "pringles mic" issue quest users have

prisma bone
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Ohhhh yeah. I hear that a lot

loud gale
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How's everyone's night

rancid jewel
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good hbu

tough ocean
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doing good you?

surreal crypt
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the goodness of my night will depend on whether my new avatar turns into a ball when i calibrate full body

rancid jewel
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s p h e r i c a l

tough ocean
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gamesphere

shut apex
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smug ball

rancid jewel
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šŸ‘€

patent python
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I’ve come to the conclusion that my ping isn’t really reaching 4-5000

surreal crypt
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success, it did not crumple

patent python
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And I can’t be convinced otherwise

surreal crypt
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however i have some other issues to attend to

patent python
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I keep getting false ping and then everything lags

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This game’s servers are straight up embarrassing

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I have a good enough connection to not get over 1000ms but still do anyway

surreal crypt
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nearly 13 years in the business of games and i've never heard of a "false ping"

patent python
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My ping goes into the thousands for no reason

surreal crypt
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there's always a reason

patent python
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But my ping shouldn’t be skyrocketing from 80 to 4000 it’s unrealistic

round steppe
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!online

jade copper
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i think loading avatars is broke

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nobody with me can switch and 2 of us are now pyramids

ivory relic
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!online

midnight eagle
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something just break, cannot login

vocal shard
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same here

thorny aspen
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yeh its down

vestal glacier
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yep

vocal shard
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safe to say shit hit the fan 10 people just started messaging outta nowhere

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gorilla tag better game

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mods put slowmode before its to late

vestal glacier
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there already is

elfin vale
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Are the servers down

vocal shard
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15s slowmode

patent python
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Where are my uploaded avatars?

vestal glacier
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ah

hollow ingot
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... Longer.

vocal shard
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5s is normal

plain edge
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in b4 slow mode

rancid vessel
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!online

rancid jewel
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people complaining about server issues? to the bunker known as #general-media !

forest estuary
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cringeeeeee

surreal crypt
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don't tell me avatar uploads broke again

floral flaxBOT
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There are 24586 users in VRChat currently

surreal crypt
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fuck's sake

thorny aspen
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even unity not signing in

royal panther
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everything be fucked

uncut trail
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no-image

patent python
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Now all audio is stuttering with my ping at 89

void hollow
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i cant upload mah wurld.

balmy axle
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let me guess vrc server is fu*ked up again

jade copper
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everything is just be patient for a bit

void hollow
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wait... nvm im uploading it. so weird.

balmy axle
iron cedar
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is vr chat down again?

balmy axle
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4 times a week

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new record

analog bobcat
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Here we go again servers down

forest estuary
void hollow
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soon its gonna be an every day thing i predict

potent fern
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right when i decide to login D;

thorny aspen
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weird blip should be back

manic sage
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It is an everyday thing

balmy axle
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ikr

manic sage
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At least everyday for the last week

charred drum
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reeeeeeeee

void hollow
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i said it was soon. never said how soon. as soon as u said it

rancid jewel
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the

dire ember
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Damn...

odd oak
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seems that the avatar list is broken, friends list, website, everything, but are able to stay logged in world

thorny aspen
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tupper just said it was back in public chat

feral blade
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i have an announcement to make

patent python
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That’s an old screenshot

noble depot
feral blade
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The Vrchat servers are now PERFECT and will never go down again The game is out of Earlt access and yoi have 500 avatar slots for Free now

covert chasm
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audio stuttering has nothing to do with ping

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usually has to do with CPU load

rancid jewel
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tupper
do you game

covert chasm
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sorta

noble depot
rancid jewel
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poggers

patent python
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Can’t be my cpu, amd apus aren’t that weak

rancid jewel
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stop drinking coffee in the server room
more often then not you spill it

lunar tangle
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Ha ha glad it's not just me

covert chasm
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server issues are over, and the server issues we had would not disconnect people, somethin' else goin on šŸ˜›

noble depot
covert chasm
jade copper
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something else? like a ddos or something?

rancid jewel
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no lol

noble depot
jade copper
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o.O

patent python
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It’s a 3500U 4 cores 8 threads

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All I can overload is my gpu

cold quiver
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If your network connection is saturated, it can easily affect your ping

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and given the speeds you have shown as, i wouldnt be surprised if that's the case

covert chasm
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you should try prime95! šŸ˜›

in all seriousness, audio stuttering depends-- if its voice only, it could be networking or decoding issues, if its all audio then something much worse is going on

rancid jewel
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tu šŸ…±ļø šŸ…±ļø er stop spilling coffee in the server room

craggy agate
noble depot
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It's very possible to overload your CPU, regardless of strength o:

jade copper
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so any idea what it might be or an eta to fix then?

noble depot
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coughs in dynamic bone collisions

covert chasm
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10 minutes ago? You should be able to log in now.

jade copper
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or should i go watch a movie on netflix or something

craggy agate
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k i well later

patent python
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My pc is bottlenecked by nothing but it’s amd gpu

noble depot
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API seems fine now, yeah o:

little grove
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I got off of vrc thinking the server issue was going to take long, now I’m too lazy to go back on ;-;

covert chasm
rancid jewel
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tupper youy r epical

jade copper
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oh i still cant load avatars maybe i should reload

craggy agate
rancid vessel
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So is the servers fixed? Like is it safe to change instances and worlds if anybody wants to without getting disconnected?

jade copper
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ok switching into alien worked

noble depot
noble depot
patent python
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My gpu is Radeon Vega 8

feral blade
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The servers are 100% fixed

covert chasm
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listen to ena

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she knows

craggy agate
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sounds like the network not cpu or anything like that @patent python i am still using a 1060

noble depot
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I'm on a 970M and haven't had similar issues either o:

craggy agate
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!online

rancid jewel
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ena is big brain

floral flaxBOT
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There are 24468 users in VRChat currently

rancid jewel
#

vrchat

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vr game

vocal shard
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whats vrchat

rancid jewel
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decagear if it turns out to be legit

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hp reverb g2

feral blade
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wtf is decagear

noble depot
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I'd recommend a Quest 2 - if you have a VR capable computer, you can use a link cable or virtual desktop with it too! c:

rancid jewel
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yeah quest 2's like one of the best options if you dont want hp reverb g2

lucid basalt
vocal shard
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I mean id just wait for deca but if your impatient just get the quest 2 or rev

feral blade
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I do not like the eye and Lip aspect.

rancid jewel
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quest 2's like 300 bucks so you'll still have a lot of money left over

feral blade
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Youd be able to see that im never looking directly at anyone im talking to And oh boy then would come the questions

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Its ok if you can see me move my head and arms but thats IT no more

vocal shard
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you buy an offbrand one thats usb A to usb C those are much cheaper and can charge your headset at the same time

kindred obsidian
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Bruh who wanna play vrchat with me tomorrow

vocal shard
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doesnt charge faster than it burns but it keeps it on much longer

rancid jewel
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it's like a really long battery life

vocal shard
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yeah its insane my only worry is it bending to much right where it connects to the headset but thats also a problem on official

rancid jewel
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and also going too wild with the cable and having the end snap

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rolling in gorilla tag was a VERY bad idea

feral blade
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If i had the expendable funds Id get the fiber optic cable from the oculus website

vocal shard
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bad? good to know

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I mean even if I had the money I couldn't use official dont have usb c

rancid jewel
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i'd use vd if the wifi at this end of the house wasnt so slow

feral blade
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I got a Super super long one instead that Wraps around my legs constantly

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so im always Detangling wires ans its Visible in vr

vocal shard
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how long is the cord

feral blade
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Like,,, 10 ft maybe?

rancid jewel
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i think mines like 8 ft

feral blade
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I dont Move around a Lot, But i turn around a lot and i dont notice

vocal shard
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I guess I just dont turn alot huh

rancid jewel
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that pain when you turn around once and your cable suddenly decides it wants to hold you hostage

torn python
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Quest 2 also known as the Pringles Can Microphone

noble depot
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bit late lol, but I'd recommend getting a 10ft Anker cable instead ($22 instead of $80) though def do your own research! o:

feral blade
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WHY does the pringleification happen? Hasnt happened to me so far

rancid jewel
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because suddenly the game decided "haha today i think i wanna fuck up quest mics"

rancid jewel
feral blade
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Iwonder if thats ever happened to me n ppl just Havent told me

rancid jewel
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probably

feral blade
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Now im paranoid

rancid jewel
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i know a way to fix it entirely and never have pringles mic
its called not talking šŸ˜Ž šŸ‘

neon mantle
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Have the servers calmed down?

rancid jewel
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yes

humble cloud
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!ONLINE

floral flaxBOT
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There are 23992 users in VRChat currently

west oasis
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 23951 users in VRChat currently

kindred obsidian
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!offline

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!online

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?

neat ferry
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Y'all still getting audio bugs in VRchat?

lavish scroll
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Nah

exotic kite
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lolol my avatars wont load

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i love this game

shut apex
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Become monke and no problems shall rise

bold epoch
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man Im so bored

vocal shard
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hi so bored, I'm Svel

white verge
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dude

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I saw a stand user

bold epoch
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I seen dio became the murderer in murder for 4

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and Im having a sus moment

untold bane
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Hewwo

sharp wren
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fr feel like jiraya fighting all this pain..

serene matrix
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im not gonna say anything :p

serene matrix
untold bane
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Hewwo

serene matrix
#

UwU

serene matrix
untold bane
#

okay

serene matrix
untold bane
serene matrix
# untold bane nope

will he is my friend if you saw him texting tell him to unblock me i really need to talk to him.. @warped stag
or tell him that i said im sorry for calling him jerk i called him jerk because my friends they hated him..
i dont want them to hate me and stuff...
so please tell him in dms to text me if he doesnt want to then tell him that i said sorry.

serene matrix
tough berry
#

Does anyone have full body tracking? Needed to ask something

ionic bane
#

yeah

torpid knot
#

shall i get vr?

regal furnace
#

yes

vocal shard
#

no

vocal shard
regal furnace
#

vive trackers?

vocal shard
#

I have no use for them yes

regal furnace
#

sell them

#

gets you some money back

vocal shard
#

I guess the only place to sell them is ebay?

regal furnace
#

depends on where you live

#

but yea, ebay is an option

#

if you have an BaseStation 2.0 you dont need i can take it :3

vocal shard
#

Hello, can i ask something about vrchat in here or in another channel?

regal furnace
#

just ask ^^

vocal shard
#

Oh thank you, i have some problem about camera, i can't find the photo camera.

regal furnace
#

you on quest?

vocal shard
#

No, i'm just a new user so i don't know how to find it

#

And what's quest in here?

regal furnace
#

i mean if you play on the oculus quest

vocal shard
#

I'm play on pc

regal furnace
#

the vr headset

#

oh, desktop mode i assume?

#

like no vr headset

vocal shard
#

Yeah

regal furnace
#

Desktop doesnt have the camera

#

you have to use the typical Steam Screenshot function (F12)

vocal shard
#

Oh i see, thank you.

regal furnace
#

the camera is only available for PCVR

vocal shard
#

Anyway, can you give me some name of vr set can play vrc?

regal furnace
#

pretty much any VR headset that does not use a phone

#

Oculus, HTC and Valve are the most common manufacturers, with oculus being the low end solution and Valve being High End

vocal shard
#

Ok , i will find they info, thank you very much.

regal furnace
#

look up reviews, read yourself into all the surrounding factors etc, its well worth it

#

hint: do not look for the LinusTechTips Oculus Quest review, its not accurate at all

torpid knot
#

so is oculus good?

#

for beginners?

regal furnace
#

for the price? yea
overall? meh at best

torpid knot
#

ok

white verge
#

@torpid knot if u can effort valve index get it

#

if u are fine playing with a bit blurry VR then go for oculus quest ig

#

but quest vrchat is secure and doesn,t load all avatars so u will need oculus link which is extra 75$

#

and strap is bad so u need elite strap if u wanna play for long time thats extra 50$

torpid knot
#

what bout oculus rift?

regal furnace
#

the original one?

#

outdated, support ended already, low resolution and low FoV
good things are very accurate tracking and Nokia Controllers (you literally cannot break them)

muted laurel
#

My account got appealed! I just want to thank everyone here who helped keep me calm and helped me stay hopeful, you all helped me so much through all of this.

feral blade
#

Dont need the cable from the website

#

can get a usb a to usb c cable from amazon

vocal shard
#

make sure it has sufficient data transfer

torpid knot
#

so basically i get oculus quest2 for now?

#

or what shall i get?

#

under like 400

sharp saddle
#

That's the best you're gonna get at that price.

#

Anything less would be WMR which has its own problems.

ionic bane
#

Yeah

vocal shard
#

hello

#

why am seeing people boosting nitro ;-;

cunning elm
#

Just don't buy the cosmos. Trash.

mint meadow
#

hey guys im starting up a new VR youtube channel and i need so help with making some vids anyone wanna help?

vocal shard
#

but vr isn't only vrchat or it is?

#

you have vr games too, like Alyx

unreal verge
#

VR is everything VR related

vocal shard
#

and few other popular

cosmic shale
vocal shard
#

how much for rift and why no index

cosmic shale
#

The rift s is the same price as the base quest 2 except you don’t need to buy extra shit for it

#

And personally if I could afford it I’d definitely go for the index

ebon aspen
#

...hello...?

odd oak
#

i think vrc died again

normal monolith
#

yeah

jaunty scroll
#

worlds go brrrr

balmy axle
#

For real?

normal monolith
#

i was gonna ask if anyone else is having trouble logging in

balmy axle
#

Twice a day, for real??

odd oak
#

😿 yee

normal monolith
#

"Could not log in"

pliant roost
#

wait this happened twice 😮

odd oak
balmy axle
#

It happened once in the morning around 12pm

pliant roost
latent widget
#

welp

normal monolith
#

it is early morning for me

balmy axle
#

Well it’s now happening again

ebon aspen
glossy island
#

Are the servers down again?
I jumped into a portal and the game froze, now i can't log in

balmy axle
#

Good job vrc team, we really see your hard works

normal monolith
#

i cant log in either

#

i thought i got banned or something

latent widget
#

Man, i just wanted to stare at myself in the mirror

normal monolith
#

same

void hollow
#

wat a surprise

vocal shard
#

I have to do it in real life now ughhhh

latent widget
#

i know

void hollow
#

vrc dev team... Soap trusted you!

glossy island
vocal shard
#

dam

pliant roost
#

idk about you guys but it is working

latent widget
#

It's probably working because you are already logged in and in an instance

#

try leaving that instance

balmy axle
#

Yes once u log out u won’t be able to log in

pliant roost
#

No i quit vrchat and restarted the whole client

latent widget
#

What's your region?

clever jay
#

Oh wait it's working now

pliant roost
#

Even their website is back up

latent widget
#

Server hiccup then?

pliant roost
#

Maybe ^^

latent widget
#

Gonna be getting a few more of those soon im guessing

odd oak
#

is work for log in now, but seems no friends list functionality

latent widget
#

oh thats fine, my friends are in private worlds anyway lmfao

pliant roost
#

Idk game seems fine, off i go

kindred dew
#

Welp now i know not to leave my current session

sick oar
#

down again nice

#

vrchat site down, can't upload

quasi gulch
#

Op, yep. my upload broke mid way through

#

WHEW lads

sick oar
#

oh i see cloudflare popping up on their site? ddos again?

latent widget
vocal shard
#

hmm i wonder

quasi gulch
#

cloudflare not reporting any issues yet

pliant roost
#

Must be a hiccup for sure then hahaha

kindred dew
#

Is it a mass cloudflare brainfart again or?

vocal shard
#

where does vrc+ money go

pliant roost
#

Tho, I have not been kicked out of the servers yet

kindred dew
#

^

vocal shard
#

i got kicked out of my entire account >:(

#

dam

#

now i cants play with my bf

odd oak
#

the website tells us in error message is the host being down, in this case VRChat

vocal shard
#

vrc go br

lofty wind
#

all I wanted was to just make an avatar

#

now I can't download the sdk

latent widget
#

I shall use this time, to charge controllers

wet forge
#

what happened with the game

latent widget
#

server instability perhaps

vocal shard
#

ah sit

lilac sand
#

maaan, it's sad that you can't even test worlds offline without their servers working

vocal shard
#

servers died

#

yay

wet forge
#

this is sad

lofty wind
#

oh no

#

not even I can play the game now

lilac sand
#

by the time theyre back up i won't remember how to fix the irreparable damage i likely did to my code by trying to add more stuff to my world

lofty wind
#

wait a minute

#

is the website fixed?

latent widget
#

It was for like 3 minutes

lofty wind
#

Ok.

acoustic umbra
#

Can't get on vrchat?

#

Its there a problem with the game?

stuck portal
#

I cant get in, so i came here XD

tacit panther
#

me too

clever jay
#

Server:

lime heron
#

RIP servers

vocal shard
#

F

lime heron
#

F

clever jay
#

F

tacit panther
#

F

vocal shard
#

teehee i cant be venti until i can upload avatars sadge

frigid plover
#

Mines working

lilac sand
hexed raven
#

Vrchat is having a series of issues recently, I think it became more frequent when some changes and optimization where added a couple weeks ago, devs are looking into it

rustic rune
#

it only works until you restart

acoustic umbra
#

Some of us don't

tacit panther
hexed raven
#

But yeah vrc has had server issues since the beginning

frigid plover
tacit panther
#

xD

subtle tendon
#

aaand ded

hexed raven
#

It's kinda part of the experience already

rustic rune
#

you figured they would fix it by now

clever jay
#

Soooooooo...

frigid plover
#

This is reminding me of recroom smh

jaunty scroll
#

This is just too funny god damn

clever jay
#

How's life guys

subtle tendon
#

my game has better working servers lal

pliant roost
vocal shard
#

somebody get a new haster for the hamsterwheel lol

hexed raven
clever jay
hexed raven
#

H a m s t e r

frigid plover
#

Hamter

clever jay
#

or potatos

vocal shard
#

hampter

subtle tendon
#

login server has issues?

clever jay
#

idk

gleaming kraken
#

oh boy..

vocal shard
tacit panther
#

does anyone knows how much time we have to wait aprox?

hexed raven
#

Na

gleaming kraken
#

avatars arent updating right.. guess its that lovely time once more, and on a wednesday this time!

acoustic umbra
#

Nope

clever jay
#

No idea

hexed raven
#

Yesterday they took like 4 minutes

subtle tendon
#

all of them? Sounds like one routing (Clouelare)

hexed raven
#

Sometimes they take an hour or 2

tacit panther
#

:,c

sterile spruce
#

!online

hexed raven
#

Just listen to a podcast meanwhile

subtle tendon
#

mmo devs, one thing to say from a fellow multiplayer dev -get a baxkup server

late void
#

Idk why but I feel like vrchat 2018 with no safety performed better (fps) than current vrchat 2021 with max safety. Did they do something to make the game just perform worse???

wanton fractal
#

game crashed and now I cant get back in, and I see im not the only one

vocal shard
#

ree i want my online reality back

late void
#

I can't be the only veteran player to notice this

vocal shard
#

i feel lost here

hexed raven
#

Maybe it's the number of new players introduced with the new quest?

subtle tendon
#

just unoptimized frontend <--> backend sync

gleaming kraken
hexed raven
#

Idk, the "too many people" thing is kinda old, but ey, idk

subtle tendon
#

hence random stutters

blazing coyote
#

im guessing its down again, yay

subtle tendon
#

even monster pc can't handle

tepid breach
#

vrchat need some explaining to do XD

late void
vocal shard
wanton fractal
pliant roost
subtle tendon
#

my world is, lol

vocal shard
#

same

#

Lol

subtle tendon
#

I spent more work on it (private world) - it has LODs, unlike 99% other worlds. Lack of LOD and other optimizations

frigid plover
#

It’s working now

#

For me

subtle tendon
#

the further away "player" is, the worse quality of further object to release memory. But it's too much work for big brain designers here (and map makers)

latent widget
#

@vocal shard I took another picture of you

vocal shard
#

@latent widget ill find you

#

lol

latent widget
#

hehe

vocal shard
#

its alive

blazing coyote
#

yeah, seems to be working for me now

vocal shard
#

yaaaas

latent widget
#

for now

blazing coyote
#

truth

lilac sand
#

alright time to see if i broke everything

vocal shard
wanton fractal
#

im in boys

blazing coyote
#

same

open carbon
#

can someone help i cant click on go and it happend 10 times

latent widget
#

restart your game perhaps

#

also turn that setting off so it doesn't stop you from loading in

open carbon
#

i already restarted

lilac sand
#

i didnt completely break it but my basketball minigame now counts.. backwards

lilac sand
#

certainly progress, udon is better than i initially thought, although i was getting lots of crashes trying to use audio

clever jay
#

big oof..

soft peak
#

@subtle tendon Doesn’t VRChat create LOD’s automatically when you upload a world?

subtle tendon
#

none

#

the further I went away, my VRAM and DRAM skyrocketted, loading more and more on screen - whilst far background images are highest quiality. LOD should be done by a choice (if we want to turn on or off) AND by map designers (that, the complaint should be sent to every map creator but who cares :P? )

haughty creek
#

Anyone else see the vive tracker 3.0?

#

And the vive face tracker looks cool for vrchat

subtle tendon
#

enlighten me?

haughty creek
#

I'll send a link, see for yourself

subtle tendon
#

awesome, thank you!

haughty creek
#

Np

kindred dew
#

Whats different about it

#

all i read was "lighter"

molten cloud
bleak copper
#

I need help

novel quest
#

With what?

bleak copper
#

I have the We've sorry! map

#

i cant join any worlds

soft peak
#

Oh boy...

novel quest
#

Hmm never happened to me idk

#

Sorry

bleak copper
#

oh okay

#

idk how to get help

lilac sand
#

ow are these trackers what vive was teasing over on twitter?

bleak copper
#

if someone knows how to help then please dm or ping me

haughty creek
#

also rumor is the face tracker only works with vive pro?? lame X2 if ture

#

DOA

lilac sand
#

ah, the trackers are still interesting i guess but, Oculus Momentā„¢ļø

kindred dew
#

Ehh the new trackers doesn't interest me, lighter smalller and longer battery life doesn't cut it when many people literally have powerbanks strapped up

lilac sand
#

yeah that's true, now if they were a little cheaper that'd be cool

#

now theyre only sorta worth it if you have an index or vive

#

base stations are expensive

kindred dew
#

I'd wish they can create their own finger tracking controllers that can be cheaper and more reliable then index

lilac sand
#

or anyone..

#

im sorta wondering why nobody ever copied the CV1 tracking system for full body, it'd be dirt cheap

#

the most expensive part (apart from RnD) would be the overglorified webcam with IR filter aka the sensor, and the trackers would need to send no input to the computer whatsoever, just battery banks with IR LEDs strapped to em
(yes CV1 also had accelerometers and such but it wouldnt be super needed for full body, it wouldnt need to be that fast)

#

heck, someone skilled enough could make and code that in their garage with enough time

vocal shard
#

whenever i click on one of my friends in the vrchat website it says "Service Unavailable: endpoint temporarily disabled". anyone know what this is?

lilac sand
#

servers were having issues a moment ago

vocal shard
#

ohh

lilac sand
#

maybe theyre not completely fixed yet

kindred dew
#

Could this be why?

open crescent
#

but as far as I know vrchat has their stuff in USA

kindred dew
#

Yeah Eu rust servers were down cause of it

vocal shard
#

yeah

open carbon
#

im waiting 5 minutes to log in and it says: could not log in - bad gateway

last fiber
#

ok bad gateway started again lol

versed reef
#

my minecraft server is down

last fiber
#

minecraft server also down means cloudflare is down

open carbon
#

what does bad gateway mean

kindred moon
#

wow it says i dont have internet so need restard. ummmm discord/ts3/steam/origin/uplay/firefox everything working finde but vrc wants some more? my conection is a 50MBsec download so how the fuk is that to slow?

versed reef
#

just go outside jesus

open carbon
#

welcome to vrchat xD

dull birch
#

and you cant blame vrc for all of them cause half the time cloudfare goes down

wet forge
#

are the servers down again

vocal shard
#

yes

wet forge
#

bruh

dull birch
#

cloudfare is down it seems

proud folio
#

just got back up for me, but friendlist doesnt work

dull birch
#

that sounds like a problem on your end I never crash

surreal crypt
#

bruv i have a $500 acer laptop that could fry an egg on the cpu and i never crash

runic obsidian
#

Looks login servers are down.

proud folio
#

I rarely crash either unless at events with 60+ people and even then its rare

latent widget
#

Its usually the world you're in or the people you're with that results in crashes and issues. Both are the result of world creators and avatar creators

surreal crypt
#

bruv my toaster can run the game fine

dull birch
#

lmao no its not a vrc problem

quasi gulch
#

Stop going into public worlds without saftey settings lol

dull birch
#

you clearly have zero coding experience

surreal crypt
#

vrchat's nature as a game where thousands of people are using custom content probably doesn't help things
all that constant uploading and downloading, it's no big surprise the servers buckle

dull birch
#

chief it isnt

quasi gulch
#

So many fools run avatars with awful perfomance stats and then still complain about the game running horribly.

vocal shard
dull birch
#

I never crash and I have a 4k gaming computer

latent widget
#

I crash a few times but again, its not solely because of VRC but the worlds you are in the avatars people are using.

vocal shard
midnight pine
#

bro i crash every time wth is that and my friend too

stoic inlet
#

Everybody has it rn

surreal crypt
#

i wish i could turn my performance limit to poor or medium but then all i see is robots because nobody can be arsed to combine meshes and materials

frank idol
#

i have 14 GB RAM and i still lag

#

people, please . USE OPTIMIZED AVATARS

surreal crypt
#

ram doesn't help you if ram isn't your bottleneck

quasi gulch
surreal crypt
#

poorly optimized avatars probably run up the cpu and gpu as well

vocal shard
#

Server down ?

twin fractal
#

wtf is wrong with your computer. I've been online for multiple days without crashing or logging out even on my low tier setup lol

frank idol
#

thats why i make avatars with only 3 or 1 materials

subtle tendon
#

everyone talking about lags - I want to say something. I have a monster-monster gaming pc. Like actual monster.
VRC still lags.
Not only vrc problem, but also USER'S and MAP/AVATAR CREATORS problems.

frank idol
#

please do full textures in the model and not these mateials

quasi gulch
#

works fine on my machine

vocal shard
#

is vrchat server down bec i cant get in

dull birch
#

that is a issue with YOUR COMPUTER

analog monolith
#

You could have a hardware problem

surreal crypt
#

considering it doesn't happen to me on a much weaker machine, sounds like a you problem

sinful wolf
#

servers donw right when i was helping someone from panic attack

subtle tendon
#

Optimize your map, please. Optimize your avatars. Please. Stop using eboys/egirls avatars - please!

quasi gulch
#

^^^ this

subtle tendon
#

Then we can play VRC lul

surreal crypt
#

got any overclocks? undervolts? maybe you should even test your ram for the hell of it

sinful wolf
#

thats insane every week something

proud folio
#

You seem to be the only person having it though, if it was VRC the rest of us would have the same issue

pallid wraith
#

Soooo errr.... VIVE Facial Tracker, when is the VRC support nudge nudge wink wink

subtle tendon
#

hence nowadays I rarely visit public worrrrllrrlrlrlrrlrlrrlrlrrlrds

surreal crypt
#

take note of what the blue screen says btw, the error codes ARE there to help

twin fractal
#

was on Sunday to Tuesday in one session, but "VRchat crashes 10 times an hour" lol

vocal shard
distant rampart
#

I dont have issues with box specifically, but yeah vrchat is just like that most of my friends and me accept that at this point.

subtle tendon
#

Windows 10 doesn't show codes for BlueScreens. Just "lol oops problem, dumping, bye"

surreal crypt
#

mine shows codes

subtle tendon
#

unless we are talking about critical red screens

#

which occured only once here

quasi gulch
#

Yes, a game with user based content is poorly optimized; it's almost like it's up to the users to optimize.

surreal crypt
#

nah, i mean blue screens
yeah it has the ":( oops" but at the bottom there's an error code next to a qr code or smth

runic obsidian
dull birch
#

the game isnt poorly optimized its the content from users that are poorly optimized

sinful wolf
#

10 times a day

surreal crypt
#

and in all fairness it's more "users don't optimize" than "devs don't optimize"

winter heart
#

servers are back up working?

surreal crypt
#

game runs juuuust peachy until the wolf egirls come out

subtle tendon
#

both sides are faulty, but recently - it's users to be blamed on

sinful wolf
dull birch
#

how do you optimize something when its the USERS who are responsible for making their stuff optimized, you cant

subtle tendon
#

hence I beg to ask map makers to optimize maps. Same with avatars.

surreal crypt
#

maybe the devs should start imposing hard limits on avatars

sinful wolf
surreal crypt
#

you know what happens when you don't follow the rules?
you get your permission to break them taken away

proud folio
#

Im not saying its optimized, but There is 10 thousands of people playing this game, and most of them arent coming here to complain about bluescreens. I don't know what you're doing but clearly its not just on VRC's end as most people dont get your issue

dull birch
surreal crypt
#

again look at the error code on the blue screen, troubleshoot

dull birch
#

again issue with your HARDWARE cause if it was VRC we ALL would have it

quasi gulch
#

I;ve never had a BSOD once while on VRC.

analog monolith
#

It's your PC, buddy, have it checked, that's not a BM, just an inflated ego on your side

latent widget
#

So, hows the weather? Pretty cold here

distant rampart
#

I don't get a bluescreen, but yeah the game can just tank randomly as well even without other users lots of my friends and others report it in game as well, vrchat just likes to die sometimes, prob memory leaks.

chilly mantle
#

somebody wanna play?

dull birch
#

dont call me a clown when you clearly have no knowledge of what you are talking about

subtle tendon
#

if bluescreen is reoccuring - it might be sysfiles critical error (not fatal, else red screen) or hardware issues

vocal shard
quasi gulch
#

I've had the game crash a few times here and there but never more than once in a 24 hour period unless there's a malicious person.

twin fractal
dull birch
#

I see lots of peeps who arent having that issue

subtle tendon
#

I spent too much time optimizing my pc build, lol. but I spent too much money on that baby

vocal shard
subtle tendon
#

proudly.

distant rampart
#

I don't think it's right to say he's "baiting", I run into people constantly in game who complain about it as well, but most of them don't even turn on settings half the time, so the egirl avatars dont help vrcTupper , unless he has no issue and really is just saying it to say it

analog monolith
#

Did you build it yourself?

proud folio
#

Then you explain why we dont have that issue

#

:)

sinful wolf
#

friend list is not working at all again

dull birch
#

hm lets see here, I have stuff very similar, and i can do the same thing and I dont blue screen

twin fractal
#

lmao

dull birch
#

its your PC

latent widget
#

I got all of that for only 2k

dull birch
#

yeah

twin fractal
#

LOL

quasi gulch
#

Damn 5k for that? wheeze.

distant rampart
#

I will admit tho if you're blue screening lag may happen with vrchat but bluescreen vrpill Might be a pc issue.

dull birch
#

I think we have found the problem

latent widget
#

LMFAO

quasi gulch
#

If you're getting BSODs it'd 100% a PC issue.

dull birch
#

we have someone who doesnt know what they are talking about

amber juniper
#

well, if all the Avatars and Worlds would be made by professional 3D artists and gamedevs... It would run probably better ;)

flint flint
#

LOL

twin fractal
#

wtf did I just read? pain 5494_idontlikewherethisisgoing

quasi gulch
#

Watch dogs is not a fair comparison; that's a flatscreen AAA title with assets that arent made by users.

sinful wolf
#

my pc is worth less than my rift sand i dont gave any fps issues : kekw:

latent widget
#

This person comparing two completely different games to each other

sinful wolf
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rift s

analog monolith
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Okay, so if you're ADAMANT that it's just VRC, did you try reinstalling VRC? Removing all related files to it from appdata? If not, try doing that

toxic valley
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They didn’t expect to get this popular

quasi gulch
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you should try to re-install windows.

proud folio
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Or just stop going on vrc and try a differnt VR social platoform

distant rampart
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I mean I will admit I find it odd that skyrim crashes less than vrchat for him, but if its BSOD that bad and its not one of those avatars that were patched out a long time ago, its a pc issue.

proud folio
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there are plenty to choice from

toxic valley
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System 32 is spam folder u can delete

distant rampart
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Lag is to be expected with vrchat at times, but BSOD means something going funkkky

vocal shard
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Who is having issues?

twin fractal
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100% a software issue if you're not capping btw

amber juniper
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if watch dogs 2 is poorly optimized garbage, what are all the worlds and avatars out there? >.<

quasi gulch
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obviously not if you're getting BSODs

analog monolith
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"bro" I don't know you, so I'm sorry if I've made a wrong assumption lmfao

subtle tendon
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I did delete System32 one day, everything worked f

dull birch
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if you think its the game so much then why do you keep playing it

amber juniper
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game != assets

subtle tendon
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not just game, but user creations on VRC are unoptimized

dull birch
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whos the real clown then

distant rampart
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I won't defend it, but BSOD sounds more on your side, I don't bluescreen at all but VRCHAT can decide to eat memory for breakfast sometimes, but thats normal.

dull birch
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also you realize they lost their grant right?

vocal shard
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I always play VRchat everyday with full body

subtle tendon
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but yea, assets here are terribly "optimized"

toxic valley
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Guess U gotta deal with it, how else will you be a grown man living out your loli fantasy

amber juniper
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calm down.

subtle tendon
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nobody LODs their worlds. All avatars are deep red.

quasi gulch
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Ange boy with bsods

fringe talon
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but user creations can be turned off via safety settings

dull birch
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ah yes resorting to toxicitity when you dont know stuff

subtle tendon
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Since we have some readers here, please, if you plan to create a world - read up LOD, at least that. Thank you in advance!

dull birch
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and when did I ever say its bad

subtle tendon
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and stop fighting mom and dad

dull birch
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never did I say that

latent widget
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Lol LODs are the least of your issues for vrchat worlds

dull birch
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so you can calm right down and pull up your pants

subtle tendon
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at least something

modern shard
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i'm seeing : endpoint temporarily disabled on the vrchat friends list

subtle tendon
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at least.

latent widget
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Poeple don't know how to use baked lighting, occlusion culling, small world file sizes. Its more than just add LODs

dull birch
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imagine being so triggered that you have to resort to toxicity @vocal shard

fringe talon
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@vocal shard no need to be harsh in the language if you wanna seek assistance with your problems

dull birch
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you words dont phase me

subtle tendon
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after LOD, use hammer trickery - but that's more advanced and doesn't work on open areas. THEN work on camera rendering. Why render everything that is behind you?

dull birch
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it shows how childish you are

analog monolith
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Idk, you've got loads of people telling you they're not experiencing the same problem with much weaker systems. The budget you've spent on your machine does not account for the issues you're having simply because any computer from the last 5 years can run VRChat, VR or not. You're the single odd one out with an issue you're experiencing alone, so maybe I'd turn around and look further for those issues before jumping the gun and saying the devs are at fault--developing a game or a program for PCs whose x86 architecture goes back to 1980's and the massive range of variables that could be causing the issue, I'd say they can have a little bit of slack when it comes to this kind of problem. Just cool off, walk away from your computer and come back when you can think rationally, because right now you seriously can't be helped.

chilly mantle
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somebody play??

dull birch
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hey @vast tulip

wanton fractal
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imagine using the same slur over and over becuase you cant make a valid argument

latent widget
dull birch
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imagine defending something cause I enjoy it and i dont have issues

distant rampart
surreal crypt
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i'm not defending anything, i'm just telling you that you have a problem no one else has, ergo it's a problem with your machine you need to troubleshoot

quasi gulch
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We've all mentioned the BSOD thing being not normal but he's ignored that up to this point so they just dont care

subtle tendon
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One more thing I want to state obvious - VRC is in late development. Like it has been for a long time. How do we - realistically - help it? Let's say people start creating new worlds and avatars that are optmized? Let's say in a perfect way. Old and unoptimized stuff will still exist. Any ideas?

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@latent widget yus. Lots of people on tutorials say "that avatar might have too many bones, but don't mind it"

amber juniper
subtle tendon
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30 avatars with "too many bones appeared!" oshit world rip.

distant rampart
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The only time I've had people report blue screening before this guy, was back when there was a avatar that really badly crashed people, but it was patched a long time ago, (year or two now?)

surreal crypt
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simple
we develop the SAO system irl, delete all unoptimized content, and people can't piss their pants and run away because of it due to the aforementioned system

subtle tendon
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SAO system?

distant rampart
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Imagine if we lagged irl

subtle tendon
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as a long term dev, I am ashamed to say I am clueless

analog monolith
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Different engines, different codebases, Unity 2017 by itself is not greatly optimized and was THE engine that took up VR early on. It's not that simple.

surreal crypt
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sword art online
can't exit the game unless you die, in which case you die in real life

latent widget
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we do, its called a stroke lmfao @distant rampart

frosty veldt
surreal crypt
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(the show itself is bad imo but ehhh not a convo for here)

subtle tendon
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oh, a game!

wind field
subtle tendon
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and sounds freaking awesome (and unethical, lol)

distant rampart
mint meadow
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guys can someone help me find a puppet from fnaf avatar?

surreal crypt
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lmao

quasi gulch
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oop. he gon

twin fractal
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crashing crossplay worlds day one

dull birch
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seems like the mods caught em

subtle tendon
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oh yeah, I forgot about existing crashers avatars

distant rampart
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He had valid concerns for lag, but he def got too angry, I've heard mixed issues about not lagging and people who lag in vrchat, but BSOD not really ever, his pc literally a firework.

subtle tendon
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Might sound brutal, but look realistically - what do you all think about high-limits for new avatar creations?

twin fractal
finite shoal
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There's a beautiful irony in the fact yall say I can't make a legitimate argument, then ask mods to ban me because I'm winning the argument.

Clowns. Every single one of you.

Tell me how, how on earth, I can be in an 8kb world, with no heavy avatars, and have 9gb of RAM being used by vrc?

frosty veldt
quasi gulch
finite shoal
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Still waiting for an answer.

latent widget
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polys are fine. Its dynamic bones and materials that kills performance

subtle tendon
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like, actual limits. People really would force themselves to optimize on purpose/by force. Creativity is the thing. Without limits, people don't feel it and go all out of it.

quasi gulch
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Dynamic bones on single core go BRRRRRRT

subtle tendon
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why am I laughing

frosty veldt
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I mean if someone goes over very poor I don't see them anyways, hard limits in the past were just walked around

latent widget
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If more people ATLASed materials and stopped using 30k dynamic bones we'd probably get 30+ more fps lmfao

amber juniper
true turtle
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creativity is a thing,but ability to optimize avatar is an other issue

opaque shard
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Welp.

twin fractal
subtle tendon
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VRCHAT only - why going above the limit?

opaque shard
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HTC pulled the rabbit out of the hat.

distant rampart
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I mean egirl avatars with lots of bones are nice, but not when theres 20 of them vrpill adds up

opaque shard
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EGirl Avatars. Ick.

quasi gulch
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dont allow public avatars to be cloned if they're very poor.

subtle tendon
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I go with cute robot avatars. Simple, nice, awesome, optimized enough. Also cute.

amber juniper
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two days ago I created a very nice avatar for a friend... I didn't even tried to optimize it specifically, I just did my usual stuff that I always do, and it ended up to be "good" even with all the features it has

distant rampart
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Mine ended up good as well, then I added 2 wings and my performance rating dipped

amber juniper
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I could do more, but I apply the 20-80 rule here

quasi gulch
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dynamic bones hurt a lot
merge as many bones as you can and use constraints to mimic a single moving dynamic bone onto multiple other bones

subtle tendon
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fine.

true turtle
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if you have 17 dynamic bones

twin fractal
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the sad part about the egirl avatars is that they wouldn't be that bad if they used a few simple ass steps to optimize them

true turtle
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you are in very poor state

distant rampart
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cries in 2 bones

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🦓

subtle tendon
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I must stop thinking dirty when you all talk about bones

amber juniper
twin fractal
subtle tendon
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I am just a robot