#vrchat-general-2
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Need more fun and interactive worlds š¦ or more spoopy horror maps
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There are 26293 users in VRChat currently
Hi
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is anyone just mega crashing right now ? like 3 crashes in 30 minutes , everyone in the lobby gets an omega vrchat crash
All the people are saying that so ye your not the only one D:
feels bad
Itās being like this these days
I meet a really cool guy and the game crashed 
I've been crashing like crazy or timing out. I have no idea what's up with VRC.
feels god damn ba(x9a)d , know that feel
only been happening in amongus for the past idk 1 hour , for me at least
It happens to me a lot theses days
Guess I'm lucky. My game doesn't crash without an actual reason but i sometimes get the timeout thing. But rarely.
Thatās very lucky idk why is happening to much ppl but Iām not the only one tho idk
How do u guys found ur regular Friend group in VrChat, i struggle finding Friend, is it bcs like i'm gay and i zct strange or smthing ?
I can't even log in. Fuck this game
same
No, it's not because you're Gay
It's not easy to find a friend group
no, its not any of those things, you probably just havent found anyone that you mesh with if that makes sense, find people you have stuff in common with. i found i first joined vrchat with one of my friends from another game and slowly we met more people as we explored worlds and a big friend group formed and ive even become a part of other peoples friend groups as well
Bruh thats like an inspirational quote
my best friend i met on vrchat, and i literally met him by sending him a friend request because i liked his avatars and we both made similar stuff. now we work together!
Thats pretty cool
I love hearing wholesome things like that.
š
hello anyone up for this hour ?
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There are 26767 users in VRChat currently
uhh 26767 people are
I wish I had a few coins for each time people ask this
I would put that money to good use
what do they commonly ask you ?
and 54k people in this discord are rated as online
Something smells a bit fishy
i am very gooodo at typing nas you ogcan see
Omg
Yes I am indeed fast at English too
egwagdsoawuhsda
EspaƱol
Ikr.
Public's tend to crash a fair bit
i type one letter per minute , beat that š
yeah well i type one letter per HOUR
Right now i am actually sending my backlog , for i am 10 moves in front of you in this conversation
yeah well i will you
anyone at the servers ?
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There are 27450 users in VRChat currently
approx 27450 people are in vrchat servers
no I meant
by the time your typing this everyone on this discord is from different servers
there are 180,411 people in this discord server
im one of them
Yeah me too
how do I meet you guys ?
you have done that already
no I havent met anyone here since I have no clue what the names you guys have in vr chat
so yea I technically not done it
You ask for someone to play
Then if they accept, you all for the vrc username
Then you add them, then you invite/join them
Depends, How old are you?
21
I think I'll pass
yea its fine enjoy your day
Thanks, you too
wtb weekly maintance for vrchat prob help with server stability
Wtb?
wazzup all
wot
uwu
uwu
any diehard fans of evaneglion
finished the 94 version and then a recomedation pops up
and I have no idea where to start
Anyone know when the menu fixes are coming?

I need to change up my groups tabs. I'm spending way too much time searching names.
At least the worlds tabs works most of the time when cruising.
Hmm my group tab works fine?
any one know why bluetooth setting not available in steam vr
Alguien de a qui habla espaƱol?
Only when a mosquito lands on your balls you will realize that violence is not the answer.
oh
anyone have a problem joined a world but no ones avi is loading?stuck at loadin
does anyone know when valve index will be restocked in the EU?
@north gust I just wait
I'm supposed to be asleep but I wanna go in the kitchen and play the pots like drums and beat pans together
Lol
Well I was playing VRchat with with Fully body then played Phasmophobia
Full not fully wtf
Damn. Cool. I don't have a vr headset yet. I was hoping to get one for my brithday or something
Not that often but yes
No clue
If you go out a lot lot vacation or friends house I recommend to get Quest 2
But if u stay home a lot like me then Rift S
I do Ice Skating Every weekend tho
Okay. Thanks for the recommendation
No problem
Also I have the Quest 2 and Rift S, also I used to use the Quest 1 but it was trash
I would get the quest
Okay
Easiest to set up and works the best IMO.
The mic is bad on the rift s
Use a headset.
No its not?
The Rift S is infamous for the robot mic issue
the rift s mic does suck at least in people ive talked to
I mean it depends on the computer too
You can use an external mic with a Rift, you know.
It just happens randomly
Watch your quest 2 strap snap
your going to be walking around your room so your pc mic wont cut it
I use my Corsair.
Quality-wise it's fine, until it inevitably gets bitcrushed - also yus, external mic
My Rift S mic wounds fine if it does not I use my USB mic which sound good
Iāve had all 3 oculus and the quest is the best IMO.
Same
Least issues and most comfortable too.
quest 1?
thank god im nearsighted I feel bad for people who need glasses for vr
Yeah it definitely is a pain no lie.
Not really
But the quest is by far the best Iāve used.
My dad tried fishing with the Quest 2
It was fine
He wears glasses
perscriptionated vr lens whos taking the idea
depends on your head ig
Yeah glasses will fit in quest 2 but compared to the quest 1 itās a lot smaller
prescription VR lenses are already a thing o:
VRLenslab and VROptician, though I can't speak personally on either's quality
I thought about that
But the quest hasnāt been an issue with glasses. Because they are so easily adjustable.
Easy to take on and off with no issues.
the extra resolution on the quest 2 seems all nice until you plug it into your pc
I need to figure out how to force lower res I know its a thing

ello Jamie how are you?
does anyone else on quest 2 just randomly crash or just me
@feral sparrow same
It may be because it's getting hot? I have no clue
I'm doing good. You?
yo
Doing great! Having some left over pie
hand it over
Never... it's already eaten
fine we'll just have to do this the hard way
Ive had my rift s for about a year and a half now and its constantly black screening and like 2 times in the past week made my computer restart :/
it's a potato, carrot, onion and pea filled pastrie pie
I wonder what neko pea would think of that
Vrchat is still having ping issues
Either way they would love it
Vrchat needs to get a more stable server setup
I'm starting to think it's just your internet
Itās not
we literally have this exact conversation on repeat
Are you sure? Because I've been fine
And Iāve proven you all wrong
I know itās not my internet because I already fixed that issue
i have a powered usb hub but my rift still black screens im getting so upset its doing this to me all of a sudden :/
Iām getting .31 download and 6.97 upload
rift s doing what rift s does best
dying
0.31? 
alright now do the test WITHOUT VRChat open
Itās usually faster
I use ethernet and I usually get 100+ both download and upload
Alright thanks š
agreed weewdiedrich this was a good starter headset but i think im ready to move on from oculus headsets 90% of the games i play are on steam anyway so im looking at steam headsets
2.85 download, 10.89 upload
good idea sleepinglapcat
lmao 2.85? hotspot speeds
mcdonald's wifi
That's your issue
some other kid came in here complaining on how vrc wasn't working when their download was fucking 3/MBps
no offense, but 2.85mbps download in 2021 is pretty bad
yeah
same for you man 2.85MBps isng gonna cut it
That's
really slow compared to today's standards
3MB is actually gonna have major issues especially when loading an avatar
or a world
Like if you have bandwidth issues
On my non 5g, I get 6.38 download and 11.67 upload
if you get internet that slow using 5g then you're literally living on mars
I have some ridiculous speeds on my ol wired shit but I sometimes drop to 400MB straight
I think the google speed test borked I get 10mbps but if I download a game its like 100
Itās just 5g canāt send a signal through walls as easily
use this https://speedtest.xfinity.com/
I wouldnt be surprised if you have connection issues because at 3mbps thats barely 375kB/s, which is barely enough for all the network traffic such as network Ik, voice, world sync, APIs, etc
yeah there we go now its actually telling me the speed dont use google speed test
I use speedtest.net
5g is worse going through walls?
test it on xinfinty speed test or speedtest.net
Iām using speed test.net
In the same room as the router, I get 20.50 download and 11.80 upload on the non 5g
Peak download is 27.54
Are they fixing the VOIP completely dying bug? I am getting it every day at least once
Voip?
Voice
Oh
they're fixing it in the open beta
Randomly I cant hear any players and I have to restart my game. It started a couple of days ago and is happening daily
Oh awesome
latest open beta is a release candidate
Hopefully it fixes a crash where I hear someone's voice go weird then 3 little bits of static
and the "pringles mic" issue quest users have
Ohhhh yeah. I hear that a lot
How's everyone's night
good hbu
doing good you?
the goodness of my night will depend on whether my new avatar turns into a ball when i calibrate full body
s p h e r i c a l
gamesphere
ball
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Iāve come to the conclusion that my ping isnāt really reaching 4-5000
success, it did not crumple
And I canāt be convinced otherwise
however i have some other issues to attend to
I keep getting false ping and then everything lags
This gameās servers are straight up embarrassing
I have a good enough connection to not get over 1000ms but still do anyway
nearly 13 years in the business of games and i've never heard of a "false ping"
My ping goes into the thousands for no reason
there's always a reason
But my ping shouldnāt be skyrocketing from 80 to 4000 itās unrealistic
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i think loading avatars is broke
nobody with me can switch and 2 of us are now pyramids
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something just break, cannot login
same here
yeh its down
yep
safe to say shit hit the fan 10 people just started messaging outta nowhere
gorilla tag better game
mods put slowmode before its to late
there already is
Are the servers down
15s slowmode
Where are my uploaded avatars?
ah
... Longer.
5s is normal
in b4 slow mode
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people complaining about server issues? to the bunker known as #general-media !
cringeeeeee
don't tell me avatar uploads broke again
There are 24586 users in VRChat currently
fuck's sake
even unity not signing in
everything be fucked
no-image
Now all audio is stuttering with my ping at 89
i cant upload mah wurld.
let me guess vrc server is fu*ked up again
everything is just be patient for a bit
wait... nvm im uploading it. so weird.
yep....
is vr chat down again?
Here we go again servers down
soon its gonna be an every day thing i predict
right when i decide to login D;
weird blip should be back
It is an everyday thing
ikr
At least everyday for the last week
reeeeeeeee
i said it was soon. never said how soon. as soon as u said it
the
Damn...
seems that the avatar list is broken, friends list, website, everything, but are able to stay logged in world
tupper just said it was back in public chat
i have an announcement to make
Thatās an old screenshot
Audio stuttering is likely an unrelated issue to ping - that said, I'd highly point to your network being the issue as I haven't heard of anyone else having 4-5000 ping spikes, with occasional wifi disconnects o:
The Vrchat servers are now PERFECT and will never go down again The game is out of Earlt access and yoi have 500 avatar slots for Free now
tupper
do you game
sorta
^
also The 4-5000 ping number is correct too - that number is how many milliseconds it took for a packet to go from your network, to VRChat's and back
poggers
Canāt be my cpu, amd apus arenāt that weak
stop drinking coffee in the server room
more often then not you spill it
Ha ha glad it's not just me
server issues are over, and the server issues we had would not disconnect people, somethin' else goin on š
That highly depends on the age and model of processor - what's the computer's specs? o:
god damnit thanos
absolutely could be your CPU, i can easily overload my i9 š
something else? like a ddos or something?
no lol
Not at all - from what I can see on Grafana, the API got really heckin' lossy for a bit o:
o.O
If your network connection is saturated, it can easily affect your ping
and given the speeds you have shown as, i wouldnt be surprised if that's the case
you should try prime95! š
in all seriousness, audio stuttering depends-- if its voice only, it could be networking or decoding issues, if its all audio then something much worse is going on
tu š ±ļø š ±ļø er stop spilling coffee in the server room
please fix it!! i need to be with my waifus i been collecting on vrchat all day lol
It's very possible to overload your CPU, regardless of strength o:
so any idea what it might be or an eta to fix then?
coughs in dynamic bone collisions
10 minutes ago? You should be able to log in now.
or should i go watch a movie on netflix or something
k i well later
My pc is bottlenecked by nothing but itās amd gpu
API seems fine now, yeah o:
I got off of vrc thinking the server issue was going to take long, now Iām too lazy to go back on ;-;
Well so much for that urgency
tupper youy r epical
oh i still cant load avatars maybe i should reload
lol np stay amazing i am glad you guys are working on the sever
So is the servers fixed? Like is it safe to change instances and worlds if anybody wants to without getting disconnected?
ok switching into alien worked
What's the GPU? o:
I'd still def point towards your network being the issue unfortunately, for the 4000 ping/disconnect issue - like Temporal mentioned it could def be network saturation, or just a general unstable/lossy connection? maybe? o:
They should be fine from what I'm seeing, failed API requests dropped to none o:
My gpu is Radeon Vega 8
The servers are 100% fixed
sounds like the network not cpu or anything like that @patent python i am still using a 1060
I'm on a 970M and haven't had similar issues either o:
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ena is big brain
There are 24468 users in VRChat currently
whats vrchat
wtf is decagear
I'd recommend a Quest 2 - if you have a VR capable computer, you can use a link cable or virtual desktop with it too! c:
vr headset with finger, eye, lip, and hip tracking
yeah quest 2's like one of the best options if you dont want hp reverb g2
just missing feet and knees!
I mean id just wait for deca but if your impatient just get the quest 2 or rev
I do not like the eye and Lip aspect.
quest 2's like 300 bucks so you'll still have a lot of money left over
Youd be able to see that im never looking directly at anyone im talking to And oh boy then would come the questions
Its ok if you can see me move my head and arms but thats IT no more
you buy an offbrand one thats usb A to usb C those are much cheaper and can charge your headset at the same time
Bruh who wanna play vrchat with me tomorrow
doesnt charge faster than it burns but it keeps it on much longer
i used to use an orange tether pro cable, can confirm.
it's like a really long battery life
yeah its insane my only worry is it bending to much right where it connects to the headset but thats also a problem on official
and also going too wild with the cable and having the end snap
rolling in gorilla tag was a VERY bad idea
If i had the expendable funds Id get the fiber optic cable from the oculus website
bad? good to know
I mean even if I had the money I couldn't use official dont have usb c
i'd use vd if the wifi at this end of the house wasnt so slow
I got a Super super long one instead that Wraps around my legs constantly
so im always Detangling wires ans its Visible in vr
how long is the cord
Like,,, 10 ft maybe?
i think mines like 8 ft
I dont Move around a Lot, But i turn around a lot and i dont notice
I guess I just dont turn alot huh
that pain when you turn around once and your cable suddenly decides it wants to hold you hostage
Quest 2 also known as the Pringles Can Microphone
bit late lol, but I'd recommend getting a 10ft Anker cable instead ($22 instead of $80) though def do your own research! o:
WHY does the pringleification happen? Hasnt happened to me so far
because suddenly the game decided "haha today i think i wanna fuck up quest mics"
half the time my quest friends mic goes pringles can
Iwonder if thats ever happened to me n ppl just Havent told me
probably
Now im paranoid
i know a way to fix it entirely and never have pringles mic
its called not talking š š
Have the servers calmed down?
yes
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There are 23951 users in VRChat currently
Y'all still getting audio bugs in VRchat?
Nah
Become monke and no problems shall rise
man Im so bored
hi so bored, I'm Svel
Hewwo
fr feel like jiraya fighting all this pain..
im not gonna say anything :p
oh hey jelly TwT
Hewwo
UwU
let me tell you something
okay
do you know stravr? @warped stag
nope
will he is my friend if you saw him texting tell him to unblock me i really need to talk to him.. @warped stag
or tell him that i said im sorry for calling him jerk i called him jerk because my friends they hated him..
i dont want them to hate me and stuff...
so please tell him in dms to text me if he doesnt want to then tell him that i said sorry.
Okay I'll try
thanks jelly you are the best
Does anyone have full body tracking? Needed to ask something
yeah
shall i get vr?
yes
no
yes do you want it, if you come to get them from my house you can have them for free
vive trackers?
I have no use for them yes
I guess the only place to sell them is ebay?
depends on where you live
but yea, ebay is an option
if you have an BaseStation 2.0 you dont need i can take it :3
Hello, can i ask something about vrchat in here or in another channel?
just ask ^^
Oh thank you, i have some problem about camera, i can't find the photo camera.
you on quest?
i mean if you play on the oculus quest
I'm play on pc
Yeah
Desktop doesnt have the camera
you have to use the typical Steam Screenshot function (F12)
Oh i see, thank you.
the camera is only available for PCVR
Anyway, can you give me some name of vr set can play vrc?
pretty much any VR headset that does not use a phone
Oculus, HTC and Valve are the most common manufacturers, with oculus being the low end solution and Valve being High End
Ok , i will find they info, thank you very much.
look up reviews, read yourself into all the surrounding factors etc, its well worth it
hint: do not look for the LinusTechTips Oculus Quest review, its not accurate at all
for the price? yea
overall? meh at best
ok
@torpid knot if u can effort valve index get it
if u are fine playing with a bit blurry VR then go for oculus quest ig
but quest vrchat is secure and doesn,t load all avatars so u will need oculus link which is extra 75$
and strap is bad so u need elite strap if u wanna play for long time thats extra 50$
what bout oculus rift?
the original one?
outdated, support ended already, low resolution and low FoV
good things are very accurate tracking and Nokia Controllers (you literally cannot break them)
My account got appealed! I just want to thank everyone here who helped keep me calm and helped me stay hopeful, you all helped me so much through all of this.
make sure it has sufficient data transfer
That's the best you're gonna get at that price.
Anything less would be WMR which has its own problems.
Yeah
Just don't buy the cosmos. Trash.
hey guys im starting up a new VR youtube channel and i need so help with making some vids anyone wanna help?
VR is everything VR related
and few other popular
Well if you have a pc you could always get the rift s, which can see further around your head than the quest 2 can
how much for rift and why no index
The rift s is the same price as the base quest 2 except you donāt need to buy extra shit for it
And personally if I could afford it Iād definitely go for the index
...hello...?
i think vrc died again
yeah
worlds go brrrr
For real?
i was gonna ask if anyone else is having trouble logging in
Twice a day, for real??
šæ yee
"Could not log in"
wait this happened twice š®
happened more early this morning
It happened once in the morning around 12pm
well damn
welp
it is early morning for me
Well itās now happening again
idk i just joined the server '-'
Are the servers down again?
I jumped into a portal and the game froze, now i can't log in
Good job vrc team, we really see your hard works
Man, i just wanted to stare at myself in the mirror
same
wat a surprise
I have to do it in real life now ughhhh
i know
vrc dev team... Soap trusted you!
If i'd do that, bet the mirror would break
dam
idk about you guys but it is working
It's probably working because you are already logged in and in an instance
try leaving that instance
Yes once u log out u wonāt be able to log in
No i quit vrchat and restarted the whole client
What's your region?
Oh wait it's working now
Even their website is back up
Server hiccup then?
Maybe ^^
Gonna be getting a few more of those soon im guessing
is work for log in now, but seems no friends list functionality
oh thats fine, my friends are in private worlds anyway lmfao
Idk game seems fine, off i go
Welp now i know not to leave my current session
oh i see cloudflare popping up on their site? ddos again?
oh look, i was right
hmm i wonder
cloudflare not reporting any issues yet
Must be a hiccup for sure then hahaha
Is it a mass cloudflare brainfart again or?
where does vrc+ money go
Tho, I have not been kicked out of the servers yet
^
the website tells us in error message is the host being down, in this case VRChat
vrc go br
I shall use this time, to charge controllers
what happened with the game
server instability perhaps
ah sit
maaan, it's sad that you can't even test worlds offline without their servers working
this is sad
by the time theyre back up i won't remember how to fix the irreparable damage i likely did to my code by trying to add more stuff to my world
oof
It was for like 3 minutes
Ok.
I cant get in, so i came here XD
me too
Server:
RIP servers
F
F
F
F
teehee i cant be venti until i can upload avatars sadge
Mines working

Vrchat is having a series of issues recently, I think it became more frequent when some changes and optimization where added a couple weeks ago, devs are looking into it
it only works until you restart
Some of us don't
try to change ur avatar and youll see xd
But yeah vrc has had server issues since the beginning
Nevermind lmao
xD
aaand ded
It's kinda part of the experience already
you figured they would fix it by now
Soooooooo...
This is reminding me of recroom smh
This is just too funny god damn
How's life guys
my game has better working servers lal
Yeah, this is what I initially thought, but still isnt the case
somebody get a new haster for the hamsterwheel lol
I don't play rec room
Need more hamster!
H a m s t e r
Hamter
or potatos
hampter
login server has issues?
idk
oh boy..
all the servers ā¢ļø
does anyone knows how much time we have to wait aprox?
Na
avatars arent updating right.. guess its that lovely time once more, and on a wednesday this time!
Nope
No idea
Yesterday they took like 4 minutes
all of them? Sounds like one routing (Clouelare)
Sometimes they take an hour or 2
:,c
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Just listen to a podcast meanwhile
mmo devs, one thing to say from a fellow multiplayer dev -get a baxkup server
Idk why but I feel like vrchat 2018 with no safety performed better (fps) than current vrchat 2021 with max safety. Did they do something to make the game just perform worse???
game crashed and now I cant get back in, and I see im not the only one
ree i want my online reality back
I can't be the only veteran player to notice this
i feel lost here
Maybe it's the number of new players introduced with the new quest?
just unoptimized frontend <--> backend sync
removing the 20k tri count certainly didnt help matters
Idk, the "too many people" thing is kinda old, but ey, idk
hence random stutters
im guessing its down again, yay
even monster pc can't handle
vrchat need some explaining to do XD
nah you aint alone
Ohhhhh yeah. But it also is just generally worse even with everyone as robots
hehe what in vrc IS optimised lol
yes...i said that
just saying
my world is, lol
I spent more work on it (private world) - it has LODs, unlike 99% other worlds. Lack of LOD and other optimizations
the further away "player" is, the worse quality of further object to release memory. But it's too much work for big brain designers here (and map makers)
@vocal shard I took another picture of you
hehe
its alive
yeah, seems to be working for me now
yaaaas
for now
truth
alright time to see if i broke everything
xD
im in boys
same
can someone help i cant click on go and it happend 10 times
restart your game perhaps
also turn that setting off so it doesn't stop you from loading in
i already restarted
i didnt completely break it but my basketball minigame now counts.. backwards
oof
certainly progress, udon is better than i initially thought, although i was getting lots of crashes trying to use audio
big oof..
@subtle tendon Doesnāt VRChat create LODās automatically when you upload a world?
none
the further I went away, my VRAM and DRAM skyrocketted, loading more and more on screen - whilst far background images are highest quiality. LOD should be done by a choice (if we want to turn on or off) AND by map designers (that, the complaint should be sent to every map creator but who cares :P? )
Anyone else see the vive tracker 3.0?
And the vive face tracker looks cool for vrchat
enlighten me?
awesome, thank you!
Np
https://www.vive.com/us/accessory/tracker3/
Lighter, smaller, more battery life
I need help
With what?
Oh boy...
ow are these trackers what vive was teasing over on twitter?
if someone knows how to help then please dm or ping me
ya it's kinda lame
also rumor is the face tracker only works with vive pro?? lame X2 if ture
DOA
ah, the trackers are still interesting i guess but, Oculus Momentā¢ļø
Ehh the new trackers doesn't interest me, lighter smalller and longer battery life doesn't cut it when many people literally have powerbanks strapped up
yeah that's true, now if they were a little cheaper that'd be cool
now theyre only sorta worth it if you have an index or vive
base stations are expensive
I'd wish they can create their own finger tracking controllers that can be cheaper and more reliable then index
or anyone..
im sorta wondering why nobody ever copied the CV1 tracking system for full body, it'd be dirt cheap
the most expensive part (apart from RnD) would be the overglorified webcam with IR filter aka the sensor, and the trackers would need to send no input to the computer whatsoever, just battery banks with IR LEDs strapped to em
(yes CV1 also had accelerometers and such but it wouldnt be super needed for full body, it wouldnt need to be that fast)
heck, someone skilled enough could make and code that in their garage with enough time
whenever i click on one of my friends in the vrchat website it says "Service Unavailable: endpoint temporarily disabled". anyone know what this is?
servers were having issues a moment ago
ohh
maybe theyre not completely fixed yet
wow, I have no idea which company that is but holy shit
but as far as I know vrchat has their stuff in USA
Yeah Eu rust servers were down cause of it
yeah
im waiting 5 minutes to log in and it says: could not log in - bad gateway
ok bad gateway started again lol
my minecraft server is down
minecraft server also down means cloudflare is down
what does bad gateway mean
wow it says i dont have internet so need restard. ummmm discord/ts3/steam/origin/uplay/firefox everything working finde but vrc wants some more? my conection is a 50MBsec download so how the fuk is that to slow?
just go outside jesus
welcome to vrchat xD
and you cant blame vrc for all of them cause half the time cloudfare goes down
are the servers down again
yes
bruh
cloudfare is down it seems
just got back up for me, but friendlist doesnt work
that sounds like a problem on your end I never crash
bruv i have a $500 acer laptop that could fry an egg on the cpu and i never crash
Looks login servers are down.
I rarely crash either unless at events with 60+ people and even then its rare
Its usually the world you're in or the people you're with that results in crashes and issues. Both are the result of world creators and avatar creators
bruv my toaster can run the game fine
lmao no its not a vrc problem
Stop going into public worlds without saftey settings lol
you clearly have zero coding experience
vrchat's nature as a game where thousands of people are using custom content probably doesn't help things
all that constant uploading and downloading, it's no big surprise the servers buckle
chief it isnt
So many fools run avatars with awful perfomance stats and then still complain about the game running horribly.
yeah, why would you ever do that
I never crash and I have a 4k gaming computer
I crash a few times but again, its not solely because of VRC but the worlds you are in the avatars people are using.
yeah and im using a nasa gaming computer and crash 30 times a day
bro i crash every time wth is that and my friend too
Everybody has it rn
i wish i could turn my performance limit to poor or medium but then all i see is robots because nobody can be arsed to combine meshes and materials
ram doesn't help you if ram isn't your bottleneck
@surreal crypt 80% of the time it's dynamic bones.
you can set a custom limit for that in the vrc config.
poorly optimized avatars probably run up the cpu and gpu as well
no, the darleks NEED their 1400 material slots
Server down ?
wtf is wrong with your computer. I've been online for multiple days without crashing or logging out even on my low tier setup lol
thats why i make avatars with only 3 or 1 materials
sleep
everyone talking about lags - I want to say something. I have a monster-monster gaming pc. Like actual monster.
VRC still lags.
Not only vrc problem, but also USER'S and MAP/AVATAR CREATORS problems.
please do full textures in the model and not these mateials
works fine on my machine
is vrchat server down bec i cant get in
that is a issue with YOUR COMPUTER
yeah i understand yout pain
You could have a hardware problem
considering it doesn't happen to me on a much weaker machine, sounds like a you problem
servers donw right when i was helping someone from panic attack
Optimize your map, please. Optimize your avatars. Please. Stop using eboys/egirls avatars - please!
^^^ this
Then we can play VRC lul
got any overclocks? undervolts? maybe you should even test your ram for the hell of it
same
thats insane every week something
You seem to be the only person having it though, if it was VRC the rest of us would have the same issue
Soooo errr.... VIVE Facial Tracker, when is the VRC support nudge nudge wink wink
hence nowadays I rarely visit public worrrrllrrlrlrlrrlrlrrlrlrrlrds
take note of what the blue screen says btw, the error codes ARE there to help
was on Sunday to Tuesday in one session, but "VRchat crashes 10 times an hour" lol
but we are having the same issue
I dont have issues with box specifically, but yeah vrchat is just like that most of my friends and me accept that at this point.
Windows 10 doesn't show codes for BlueScreens. Just "lol oops problem, dumping, bye"
mine shows codes
Yes, a game with user based content is poorly optimized; it's almost like it's up to the users to optimize.
nah, i mean blue screens
yeah it has the ":( oops" but at the bottom there's an error code next to a qr code or smth
Bruh, parallel talking in #vrchat-general-2 and #vrchat-general-1 about vrchat issues. Choose one of them please
yeah i am crashing like
the game isnt poorly optimized its the content from users that are poorly optimized
10 times a day
and in all fairness it's more "users don't optimize" than "devs don't optimize"
servers are back up working?
game runs juuuust peachy until the wolf egirls come out
both sides are faulty, but recently - it's users to be blamed on
i am in
how do you optimize something when its the USERS who are responsible for making their stuff optimized, you cant
hence I beg to ask map makers to optimize maps. Same with avatars.
maybe the devs should start imposing hard limits on avatars
you hide trash avatars, lol.
lets continue with the sesion
you know what happens when you don't follow the rules?
you get your permission to break them taken away
Im not saying its optimized, but There is 10 thousands of people playing this game, and most of them arent coming here to complain about bluescreens. I don't know what you're doing but clearly its not just on VRC's end as most people dont get your issue
well obviously, but im referring to their statement saying its the most optimized game
again look at the error code on the blue screen, troubleshoot
again issue with your HARDWARE cause if it was VRC we ALL would have it
I;ve never had a BSOD once while on VRC.
It's your PC, buddy, have it checked, that's not a BM, just an inflated ego on your side
So, hows the weather? Pretty cold here
I don't get a bluescreen, but yeah the game can just tank randomly as well even without other users lots of my friends and others report it in game as well, vrchat just likes to die sometimes, prob memory leaks.
somebody wanna play?
dont call me a clown when you clearly have no knowledge of what you are talking about
if bluescreen is reoccuring - it might be sysfiles critical error (not fatal, else red screen) or hardware issues
we are all having an issue
I've had the game crash a few times here and there but never more than once in a 24 hour period unless there's a malicious person.
you delete trash avatar, better yet don't allow them at all. too late for that now though, since they're part of the game already. they fucked up hard
im not crashing every 10 minutes, I dont crash, I dont have blue screen
I see lots of peeps who arent having that issue
I spent too much time optimizing my pc build, lol. but I spent too much money on that baby
yeah his issue is worse than ours, but were still having an issue
proudly.
I don't think it's right to say he's "baiting", I run into people constantly in game who complain about it as well, but most of them don't even turn on settings half the time, so the egirl avatars dont help
, unless he has no issue and really is just saying it to say it
yeah this is normal
Did you build it yourself?
friend list is not working at all again
hm lets see here, I have stuff very similar, and i can do the same thing and I dont blue screen
lmao
its your PC
I got all of that for only 2k
yeah
LOL
Damn 5k for that? wheeze.
I will admit tho if you're blue screening lag may happen with vrchat but bluescreen
Might be a pc issue.
I think we have found the problem
LMFAO
If you're getting BSODs it'd 100% a PC issue.
we have someone who doesnt know what they are talking about
well, if all the Avatars and Worlds would be made by professional 3D artists and gamedevs... It would run probably better ;)
LOL
wtf did I just read? pain 
Watch dogs is not a fair comparison; that's a flatscreen AAA title with assets that arent made by users.
my pc is worth less than my rift sand i dont gave any fps issues : kekw:
This person comparing two completely different games to each other
rift s
Okay, so if you're ADAMANT that it's just VRC, did you try reinstalling VRC? Removing all related files to it from appdata? If not, try doing that
They didnāt expect to get this popular
you should try to re-install windows.
Or just stop going on vrc and try a differnt VR social platoform
I mean I will admit I find it odd that skyrim crashes less than vrchat for him, but if its BSOD that bad and its not one of those avatars that were patched out a long time ago, its a pc issue.
there are plenty to choice from
System 32 is spam folder u can delete
Lag is to be expected with vrchat at times, but BSOD means something going funkkky
Who is having issues?
100% a software issue if you're not capping btw
if watch dogs 2 is poorly optimized garbage, what are all the worlds and avatars out there? >.<
obviously not if you're getting BSODs
"bro" I don't know you, so I'm sorry if I've made a wrong assumption lmfao
I did delete System32 one day, everything worked f
if you think its the game so much then why do you keep playing it
game != assets
not just game, but user creations on VRC are unoptimized
whos the real clown then
I won't defend it, but BSOD sounds more on your side, I don't bluescreen at all but VRCHAT can decide to eat memory for breakfast sometimes, but thats normal.
also you realize they lost their grant right?
I always play VRchat everyday with full body
but yea, assets here are terribly "optimized"
Guess U gotta deal with it, how else will you be a grown man living out your loli fantasy
calm down.
nobody LODs their worlds. All avatars are deep red.
Ange boy with bsods
but user creations can be turned off via safety settings
ah yes resorting to toxicitity when you dont know stuff
Since we have some readers here, please, if you plan to create a world - read up LOD, at least that. Thank you in advance!
and when did I ever say its bad
and stop fighting mom and dad
never did I say that
Lol LODs are the least of your issues for vrchat worlds
so you can calm right down and pull up your pants
at least something
i'm seeing : endpoint temporarily disabled on the vrchat friends list
at least.
Poeple don't know how to use baked lighting, occlusion culling, small world file sizes. Its more than just add LODs
imagine being so triggered that you have to resort to toxicity @vocal shard
@vocal shard no need to be harsh in the language if you wanna seek assistance with your problems
you words dont phase me
after LOD, use hammer trickery - but that's more advanced and doesn't work on open areas. THEN work on camera rendering. Why render everything that is behind you?
it shows how childish you are
Idk, you've got loads of people telling you they're not experiencing the same problem with much weaker systems. The budget you've spent on your machine does not account for the issues you're having simply because any computer from the last 5 years can run VRChat, VR or not. You're the single odd one out with an issue you're experiencing alone, so maybe I'd turn around and look further for those issues before jumping the gun and saying the devs are at fault--developing a game or a program for PCs whose x86 architecture goes back to 1980's and the massive range of variables that could be causing the issue, I'd say they can have a little bit of slack when it comes to this kind of problem. Just cool off, walk away from your computer and come back when you can think rationally, because right now you seriously can't be helped.
somebody play??
hey @vast tulip
imagine using the same slur over and over becuase you cant make a valid argument
Maybe we just need more tutorials for optimization than just written documents. I think people are just too lazy to read and instead need videos to guide them through
imagine defending something cause I enjoy it and i dont have issues
I mean lag is something that can happen even on high grade to be fair, I get many people who report it and some that don't, but BSOD def sounds like him more, I never bluescreened so 
Yeh
i'm not defending anything, i'm just telling you that you have a problem no one else has, ergo it's a problem with your machine you need to troubleshoot
We've all mentioned the BSOD thing being not normal but he's ignored that up to this point so they just dont care
One more thing I want to state obvious - VRC is in late development. Like it has been for a long time. How do we - realistically - help it? Let's say people start creating new worlds and avatars that are optmized? Let's say in a perfect way. Old and unoptimized stuff will still exist. Any ideas?
@latent widget yus. Lots of people on tutorials say "that avatar might have too many bones, but don't mind it"
get rid of the old stuff, one by one
30 avatars with "too many bones appeared!" oshit world rip.
The only time I've had people report blue screening before this guy, was back when there was a avatar that really badly crashed people, but it was patched a long time ago, (year or two now?)
simple
we develop the SAO system irl, delete all unoptimized content, and people can't piss their pants and run away because of it due to the aforementioned system
SAO system?
Imagine if we lagged irl
as a long term dev, I am ashamed to say I am clueless
Different engines, different codebases, Unity 2017 by itself is not greatly optimized and was THE engine that took up VR early on. It's not that simple.
sword art online
can't exit the game unless you die, in which case you die in real life
we do, its called a stroke lmfao @distant rampart
Incentives, stuff like AV3 creates an incentive to create new things, which are more likely to be optimized. A more accurate performance ranking system would probably result in more optimization techniques being used as well
(the show itself is bad imo but ehhh not a convo for here)
oh, a game!
i feel like i do before I've had my coffee in the morning
and sounds freaking awesome (and unethical, lol)
Respawn system is broken, my best friend still dead from 2 years ago.
guys can someone help me find a puppet from fnaf avatar?
lmao
oop. he gon
crashing crossplay worlds day one
seems like the mods caught em
oh yeah, I forgot about existing crashers avatars
He had valid concerns for lag, but he def got too angry, I've heard mixed issues about not lagging and people who lag in vrchat, but BSOD not really ever, his pc literally a firework.
Might sound brutal, but look realistically - what do you all think about high-limits for new avatar creations?
if you're with chill ppl it almost never comes up or is relevant
There's a beautiful irony in the fact yall say I can't make a legitimate argument, then ask mods to ban me because I'm winning the argument.
Clowns. Every single one of you.
Tell me how, how on earth, I can be in an 8kb world, with no heavy avatars, and have 9gb of RAM being used by vrc?
Any limit is a limit on creativity, how they give control to view what you want to see is the best way
Poly limit shouldn't be 70k imo. They should take into account how many blendshapes are used per mesh because that actually does take up a fair bit of ram with high poly meshes.
Alt account?
Still waiting for an answer.
polys are fine. Its dynamic bones and materials that kills performance
like, actual limits. People really would force themselves to optimize on purpose/by force. Creativity is the thing. Without limits, people don't feel it and go all out of it.
Dynamic bones on single core go BRRRRRRT
why am I laughing
I mean if someone goes over very poor I don't see them anyways, hard limits in the past were just walked around
If more people ATLASed materials and stopped using 30k dynamic bones we'd probably get 30+ more fps lmfao
there are reasons for avatars to go over the limits, but those avatars are usually not meant as a "daily driver"
A big problem, apart from the creators who make very poor avatars, are the users who just don't care, or don't know about the impact in performance their avatar has on others (looking at all of you, egirl avatars with 2000-4000 bone collision checks)
creativity is a thing,but ability to optimize avatar is an other issue
Welp.
Info 1: I have good specs but game doesn't work
Info 2: They have bad specs but game works
Obvious conclusion: Specs aren't the issue
"VRchat bad"
VRCHAT only - why going above the limit?
HTC pulled the rabbit out of the hat.
I mean egirl avatars with lots of bones are nice, but not when theres 20 of them
adds up
EGirl Avatars. Ick.
dont allow public avatars to be cloned if they're very poor.
I go with cute robot avatars. Simple, nice, awesome, optimized enough. Also cute.
two days ago I created a very nice avatar for a friend... I didn't even tried to optimize it specifically, I just did my usual stuff that I always do, and it ended up to be "good" even with all the features it has
Mine ended up good as well, then I added 2 wings and my performance rating dipped

I could do more, but I apply the 20-80 rule here
dynamic bones hurt a lot
merge as many bones as you can and use constraints to mimic a single moving dynamic bone onto multiple other bones
fine.
if you have 17 dynamic bones
the sad part about the egirl avatars is that they wouldn't be that bad if they used a few simple ass steps to optimize them
you are in very poor state
I must stop thinking dirty when you all talk about bones
well, that's true, constraints use the unity job system which is multithreaded

I am just a robot
