#vrchat-general-2

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torpid mason
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I wont, but that's beyond the point. Asking for it a scam

grand zenith
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Damn we're still talking about this XD

inner cape
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you said almost that exact line 50 minutes ago

inland knot
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yeah such a scam, because vrc development is funded by people roleplaying in voidclub and funny dreams

umbral reef
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Your opinion, i find it a big joke selfish people within the community think the devs asking for money is insane
Cant recall last time when an free game allowed me to upload whatever whenever i want with an almost 100% uptime for content i uploaded 4 years ago

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And its 8Pm for me
Im not being payed anymore to shitpost in here
So ima be leaving πŸ‘‹

grand zenith
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Now that you mention that I'm suprised we haven't had any kind of downtime or magical disappearing of content πŸ€”

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Atleast I haven't have never experienced that.

umbral reef
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The server team knows what they are doing. Most networking problems are relatively minor if we are honest compared to what other services have.

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And a big factor for that is that they have users with slow/bad internet all over the world and have to rely on specific services that can also mess things up

grand zenith
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I'm kinda curious to how much we've all accumulated storage wise with just our uploaded content.

smoky linden
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where find Nutter Butter?

plucky peak
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yeah i also need to know\

fast relic
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then don't pay the fee? Everything is still free anyway, they're not taking anything away.

plucky peak
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does anyone please know where to get the nutter butter i cant find anything omn the internet

regal ice
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i want it too

obsidian herald
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Amazon

umbral flower
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I'd rather pay a one time fee to increase the max favourites to 100. Not a stupid subscription to do so...

quiet plume
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anyone know where I can find seven deadly sins avatars on quest 2?

obsidian herald
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You are talking about the Cookies, Right?

quiet plume
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I'm trying here cause nobody is really active in the avatar lobbies really

plucky peak
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does anyone have the nutter butter skin that i can clone

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i cant find it anywhere

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anyone?

quiet plume
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I don't

scarlet dawn
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ahhh fuck i found a world yesterday but i cant remember the name

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if i find it again ill tell you the world

plucky peak
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do you guys know where i can find nutter butter

scarlet dawn
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isnt that just on public avatars, ive seen so many ppl use it in japan shrine

ripe hornet
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Why are so many people ignoring who funds the servers for which the user generated content is hosted lmao

plucky peak
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ok japan shrine

dusk tartan
analog bison
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Ima sleep in vr tonight... anyone got any tips on what world I should go to in vrchat?

inner cape
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advice: dont sleep in vr

grand zenith
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not the advice he asked for xD

vocal shard
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How do I download Beta

grand zenith
smoky linden
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Anyone found the nutter Butter skin?

vocal shard
grand zenith
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It literally says what you have to do.

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Read

inner cape
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not the advice he asked for, but the advice he needed

vocal shard
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Sleeping in vr is not horrible... Just not for every day.

ionic fern
jolly pawn
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sombody wanne play this whit me Ace Attorney

vocal shard
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yea

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sleeping in vr is trippy and fun actually its just hard to get comfy with a giant ass console on your head sometimes with wires attached too

tepid timber
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πŸ‹

vocal shard
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i love lemons

tepid timber
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same

vocal shard
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zesty and sour and delicious

exotic obsidian
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Hewwo

mighty seal
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Hello humans and other beings

sharp saddle
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Hello there.

vocal shard
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I can't comfortably sleep in vr sometimes due to the dial on the back of the Rift s and I wear Bluetooth headphone well playing so it's too bulky sideways lol

astral ibex
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my vrc is broken i can't launch it and steam tell me thats it allredy runing even if ist not how do i fix this ?

vocal shard
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Use task manager to kill the steam bootstrapper then relaunch steam @astral ibex

astral ibex
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alleredy did it and ist not working

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still tell me that the game is on even if ist not

sharp saddle
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Check to see if vrchat.exe is running.

astral ibex
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ist not runing

sleek sparrow
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check the processes tab in task manager

astral ibex
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allredy did and i don't see vrchat

sleek sparrow
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restart computer?

vocal shard
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Yeah just restart your pc

astral ibex
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well acutly i didn't did it yet i will try

sleek sparrow
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...

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we are trying to help lol no sense lying

quaint fjord
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Hi

sour forge
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πŸ‹

spice marsh
sour forge
pure sun
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I can't login

sour forge
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πŸ₯

spice marsh
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my child

steel prism
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Lemon

pure sun
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help :c

steel prism
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Rat

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I eat

sour forge
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What's wrong with lemons

sharp saddle
modern fossil
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Hey, how do I go into worlds with actual people in them? Seem to be going into blank worlds despite them being nearly full.

sharp saddle
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Depends. Are you on the beta build?

vocal shard
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Are you on the beta

modern fossil
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I am. Guess that's the problem

signal elbow
sharp saddle
vocal shard
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Yea beta can only see beta users also downgrade ur game back to see none beta users @modern fossil

pure sun
sour forge
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πŸ“

modern fossil
pure sun
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literally nothing

sharp saddle
pure sun
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yes

sour forge
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πŸ‹

pure sun
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and when I try to login with my vrchat account it says Invalid username/password

sharp saddle
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Use email instead of username.

pure sun
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I'll try

inner cape
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did you change your name by any chance?

pure sun
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It just f*cking logged in through steam

modern fossil
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And I just had to reinstall the whole thing when I tried to downgrade...

pure sun
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anyway thanks

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and sorry

vocal shard
vocal shard
deft citrus
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not sure exactly where I should ask this question, but last night when I was accessing the action menu I accidentally clicked something that moved the action menu from my hand to now move with my head movement... but now when I try to use the action menu it doesn't work. It will open but when I go to select the options or even emotes or anything it doesn't do anything, does anyone happen to know how to fix this? and if I asked this question in the wrong place, I apologize

vocal shard
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Go to it's settings and make it on your hand and not on hud for one that will move it back to the hand

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It's the setting called "On HUD"

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And you make have disabled flick select

deft citrus
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do I get to that from the action menu though? because I cannot access the settings

vocal shard
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So you may need to I believe it's pulling your trigger with flick select off to go through the action menus menu with out click on

deft citrus
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that is my problem, the action menu opens but then when I try to select settings or emotes or whatever the third one is it doesn't do anything, it doesn't open

vocal shard
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Go move the stick to it and then pull your trigger I believe it is

deft citrus
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oohhhh I will try that

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I thought I tried that last night but maybe not

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thank you very much!

vocal shard
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So it worked I take it?

deft citrus
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I am not in vrchat at this moment but I will try it later

vocal shard
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Ah alright

deft citrus
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I think you are correct though, I appreciate it!

vocal shard
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No problem

tranquil spear
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hi

scenic sail
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hi hi

hard mantle
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I can't believe you guys turned off comments on all your videos cause you're scared of the backlash for your terrible service. It's pathetic and I truly hope one day you guys grow up.

regal furnace
hard mantle
# regal furnace you know its optional, right?

Yes. I clearly do but it offers like nothing. Along with the security on vrchat still being completely garbage. Wish they'd prioritize actually fixing there game and making services that are worth paying for

regal furnace
ripe aurora
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wait can we actually buy vrc+ yet?

hard mantle
vocal shard
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No @ripe aurora

potent fern
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They should add a lower tier at like 4.99. I think people would be more willing to pay that. If you put it too high you just gonna get 0$ instead.

vocal shard
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Dislike bombing does not help the case though

scenic sail
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wait, is there an option to try the beta for free right now?

potent fern
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since comments are off, its not like there is another a way to add feedback (at least on the video itself)

hard mantle
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Exactly cause they are children and dislike bombing? People aren't setting out to do so. Maybe some but you can't even leave feedback because children are clearly running the game and can't take criticism

vocal shard
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Nah lol my friends called to dislike bumb it lmao

hard mantle
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Exactly "some"

dusk tartan
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I disliked because I genuinely doesn't like it. Not because I'm trying to dislike bombing

hard mantle
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Same here. Wasn't even told about it other than the announcement and playing the game. Than I talked with everyone and they all hate it. But can't criticize it since the video's comments are off

grand zenith
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You do realize they read this chat too right.

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Some even directly respond to people. I don't think Youtube comments are the only nor best way to criticize

potent fern
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Obvioulsy us in here can comment but Discord population compared to game population is just a small minority. (Also usually the most vocal that might not be representative of everyone)

grand zenith
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I mean there's Blogs, Discord, Forums, Youtube and the overall VRChat In-game community to chose from.

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Pretty sure it won't be hard for them to notice an either positive or negative response.

vocal shard
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The reason it's in an open beta is so everyone can try it and leave feedback. The whole point was to get feedback. You have to use the proper channels though so it gets noticed

golden scaffold
livid abyss
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Can i join friends through the website in desktop mode?

sharp saddle
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Quick question if anyone knows: will the loading tip things that haven't been updated in forever be updated with the new UI?

golden scaffold
sharp saddle
crimson laurel
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@golden scaffold Thank you for the Canny link! I wanted to know, has the VRChat team done any market research/surveys to find out what users would consider valuable? I of course want to support the devs at VRChat, but I am worried that this is a forest-for-trees situation, and the things being offered aren't what users would actually pay for.

vocal shard
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It likely has to be a balance since you don't want to hide really good stuff behind a paywall

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Enough that's it's a little kick back, but not enough to really cause a divide in features

crimson laurel
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I can imagine! The benefit definitely needs to be something people want, thoughβ€”otherwise you're just causing more culture division. And nobody wants that

golden scaffold
# crimson laurel <@!105073902807482368> Thank you for the Canny link! I wanted to know, has the V...

We're aware of every feature request that's posted to our channels and all Canny threads are read. Dunno what popular belief is, but we all spend a ton of time in VRChat with our friends as well and as such, the stuff you'd want lines up with stuff that we'd want too. VRChat Plus is just the start to some nice perks as we've got more things ahead, but Jamie is correct that there's absolutely a balance to be had.

crimson laurel
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@golden scaffold That's great to hear. I ask that as a guy with a marketing background. I want VRChat to be successful, and I know the behind-a-paywall dance is sometimes tricky. The big question is going to be (when VRC+ launches) whether people will look at that and say "that's worth it". Other social platforms current and past have had this issue and some have been successful and some haven't.

golden scaffold
languid beacon
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I'd pay for a persistent named public instances. Maybe with a named join URL. And please. never any VRC+ exclusive instances. I don't ever wanna see that

vocal shard
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glad to see your very open to feedback. keep up the good work.

torpid mason
hard mantle
torpid mason
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I'm not defending anything, here it gets lost in other unrelated chat messages. On reddit it wont. I dislike the idea too.

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VRChat plus that is, the amount that they are asking is outrages especially since their game depends on what their users create. It's as if they're just leeching off of that now.

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It could be done, as long as the amount is reasonable, the features are reasonable and maybe give back to the creators in some way, like a partner program or something.

vocal shard
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But the game isn't free for them to run

hard mantle
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yeah, I agree. But personally don't think they care.

twin fractal
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what is your idea on how they should monetize thhe game then? genuinely curious

vocal shard
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They need to get some form of income, that can help pay back the investment likely, and keep the game running for years to come

hollow grove
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But the game isn't free for them to run
@vocal shard So is your contention that a subscription is their only means of funding themselves?

twin fractal
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or just wait until they run out of money and just shut down overniight? lol

vocal shard
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A one time payment won't cover things

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And it's absolutely optional

hollow grove
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probably not, but that isn't what I was asking

torpid mason
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No doubt that it isn't free to run and yes, investors want their investment back. but really, you think "increased trust" w/e that is suppose to mean is gonna do the trick to make people pay 10 usd a month?

vocal shard
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We've lost nothing from the free game, infact gained more than we had before as free users

torpid mason
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Wether it's optional or not is beyond the point.

fiery fern
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Hello.

hollow grove
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Do you actually know that is the case, or are you speculating that is the case

vocal shard
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"increased trust" is badly worded

torpid mason
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If you see someone being scammed by a shady dude in the park, you'll feel bad about that too.

hollow grove
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because I don't know if it is an investment, and I don't know if you do either....

vocal shard
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It's basically the same about of trust points as adding some friends

floral aspen
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You get a small boost. Not even enough to rank up

vocal shard
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Not even enough to rank out of visitor

torpid mason
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what you mean increased trust is badly worded? That's literally what it says on the announcement post on steam

umbral reef
hollow grove
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But do you know that

vocal shard
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But some seem to think it's like you pay to rank up or stuff like that

twin fractal
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price is too high imo but there is literally no solution that ppl wouldnt cry about

umbral reef
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Because its literally public information on how much they get and from what group

torpid mason
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The whole ranked system was flawed from the start

hollow grove
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Okay.... but do you know if it was an investment that they expected a return on...?

torpid mason
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Why do y ou need a user rank system on a social platform

umbral reef
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Thats literally what an investment is my dude

hard mantle
# vocal shard But the game isn't free for them to run

I mean they've made money from partnerships with companies who have related interests in the VR. But also many users wouldn't mind supporting the game. But why with such negative reaction would they not listen to the community about change. How would we come up with a solution if feedback is eliminated

hollow grove
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Or was it money given to push products, like when they were shilling the quest really hard

vocal shard
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You can get the exact same amount of trust from uploading some content. It's a miniscule ammount, and actually makes sense.. since someone who is willing to pay is likely more involved with the game anyway

floral aspen
hollow grove
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Where is this information

torpid mason
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I've said this since the start, imagine being an elite facebook user because you've used it for a while, got 200+ friends and posted some rants about animal abuse. That makes no sense and you're no different from the grandma who made a facebook last week so she could see the pics her grandson posted.

vocal shard
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And the user ranks are hidden now. So that's nice!

hollow grove
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Giving money to push a product is called marketing.....

umbral reef
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We wont see the contracts no, but if you know how normal funding series work then its not hard.
Series C, whats the most recent and biggest one is meant for the team to scale, hire new people, get there base systems solid and set and get money going.

I literally work in a start up that runs of this type of funding and worked for companies who did this related style of funding. Its common knowledge within that type of world.

vocal shard
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We're all the same nameplate colour now

hollow grove
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Then you guys literally don't know if that is true or not

torpid mason
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Yeah, so what the fuck does "increased trust" even mean?

umbral reef
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Literally go google this stuff yourself if you want to know

dire thicket
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Wait what's this about the same nameplate color?

vast sky
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....I just want the more slots to save avatars......

hollow grove
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"we won't see the contracts"

umbral reef
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@vast sky Good thing everyone is getting an increase to 25 favorites

hollow grove
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where do I google contracts I won't see?

hard mantle
vast sky
vocal shard
torpid mason
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The limit on avatar slots was made after the outrage from avatar creators, cuz people wouldnt come back to their world if they had more slots, vrchat agreed and limited it, now the limit seems to be raised against what they said back then

umbral reef
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@hollow grove Your acting malicious or dumb on purpose by now just so you can pull a one upper.
You cant tell me your this dense

hollow grove
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Why are you attacking me rofl

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You literally admitted you have no idea if what you say is true or not, and now you call me dumb?

torpid mason
umbral reef
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Not knowing the contracts doesnt mean i dont know what im talking about.

twin fractal
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youre arguing againnst what an investment is

vocal shard
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My account is legendary too. Trust ranks mean nothing

hollow grove
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No I'm not rofl

umbral reef
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Thats like telling someone who designs airplanes that they have no idea how that new type of plain works because they havent been inside of it

torpid mason
twin fractal
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like if i said i bought a car would i have to tell you the exact contract for you to understand what "buying" is

hollow grove
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So you feel your self purporting and appeal to your own authority is being challenged? Sounds like a personal problem, but attacking me in a public channel looks kind of bad

vocal shard
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For the safety system, but now they don't appear on your nameplate or stuff like that. How it should have been. Now it's more hidden unless you open the menu

umbral reef
civic lagoon
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Trust ranks are useless the safety systems should just affect people you don't know.

vocal shard
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Yeah, I never pay attention to the ranks

crimson laurel
# vocal shard My account is legendary too. Trust ranks mean nothing

I don't think that's true. Some users use trust ranks to filter out shaders from visitors and new users. Some users use Trust Ranks to gauge who they can ask for help with something. Creators often rely on their trust rank for the level of legitimacy it gives their account. Some users even turn voice off for users below a certain trust rank.

torpid mason
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I've made a post about this on reddit when they where introduced, about how it created something for people to hate one, to discriminate towards, grouping people up based on their rank and calling them bad for oh you're just a trash visitor or such. I've said that it would happen, it's gonna happen again with the support badge. People are gonna target those with the badge.

twin fractal
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trust ranks are for the safety system (which sucks)

vocal shard
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I have everything on for everyone

torpid mason
twin fractal
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the only value is with the default safety which no one whos been playing for more than a few weeks even uses

vocal shard
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I made a video about my disagreement with ranks when it first launched

torpid mason
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The safety system doesnt need more then "Users" and "Friends"

vocal shard
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But the supporters bage is just on your profile. Not on your nameplate

umbral reef
# hollow grove So you feel your self purporting and appeal to your own authority is being chall...

Again, your trying to claim your right and that im wrong while you literally made clear you dont know how the industry works.
You dont know you can see there series funding, claimed it was money to push products (whats false as facebook never gave money to VRC in the funding series) and had to ask why an investment would expect something in return while thats literally the reason you invest. Its the definition of the word even.

hollow grove
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what are you on about dude

crimson laurel
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Knowing who's been around a while is useful for new users. If someone's having an issue, they can have some semblance of trust that a user of certain rank can be trusted when giving advice

torpid mason
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Right, we all know how secure profiles, accounts and such have been in the past. People will be able to figure out those things, hell, there's clients out there by the time that probably will see when someone is a supporter or not. I mean even right now people can already see alot of info.

vocal shard
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Opening the quick menu has an option to show ranks if you want

crimson laurel
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And for unaccustomed users, filtering out shaders from Visitor and New users is immensely helpful

hollow grove
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You are talking about stuff that YOU injected into my question - I literally don't care about your speculation. I asked if you know for a fact about what went on and you literally said we don't see the contracts, so you literally don't know..... I don't know why you can't accept that you yourself defeated your own premise

umbral reef
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Trust system is 'fine' if it was just guest, new user and user ranks imo

twin fractal
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i think its useful from a new players perspective as well

torpid mason
umbral reef
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Oh yea for sure friends, that one also, i dont even count that really into the system tho

vocal shard
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Yeah, there are too many ranks

torpid mason
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i've heard people say, oh those trusted users are the least trustable ones.

twin fractal
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i know i was more likely to ask a purple or orange plate for technical help in game over a visitor

civic lagoon
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I think the trust ranks offer nothing its actually a inconvenience when you have to turn off settings for 5 different user groups.

crimson laurel
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@twin fractal Me too. And now that I'me one of those users, I have more newbies ask my help. Which is a good thing.

hollow grove
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So now, I am going to block the frog breeder and move on because its clear he has no idea about the terms of their "investment" or if it was simply an advertising thing

floral aspen
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Bro, literally go google what an investment is

umbral reef
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Like keep guest the same,
New user get upload rights, disable some stuff by default.
User becomes as 'hard' to get as the orange rank (forgot the name) and get more unblocked by default.

torpid mason
hollow grove
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Yes, let me go google the terms of their contract,..... wait

twin fractal
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terms of investment will never change the fundamental of what an investment is (thats what everyone is saying)

umbral reef
# floral aspen Bro, literally go google what an investment is

The guys a literal clown, aint wortht he time
He is trying to grasp the straw that i said we cant see the contracts but that you can google who invested how much and how normal series funding works.
And trying to warp that into googling the contracts.

hollow grove
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I never asked about what it was...

floral aspen
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The terms of the contract are irrelevant. At the end of the day, an investor will expect a return on their investment.

torpid mason
hollow grove
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Do you all know what marketing and advertising is?

torpid mason
grand zenith
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So is everyone changing their nicknames now to think it makes their point stronger? xD

floral aspen
hollow grove
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How do you know it is a series c investment

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?

torpid mason
umbral reef
# torpid mason Their return could be something else then just money.

Series A and B often are like that. They are often high risk and lower to see if the product is worth future investments.
Series C are almost always for scale, if it isnt your doing major stuff wrong.
And with scale also comes any system to make an income, no need for profit as thats further on in the future.

regal furnace
floral aspen
vocal shard
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And that

hollow grove
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Thank you, that is literally what I asked at the very beginning

twin fractal
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Bookmark google. useful site

plain bluff
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i just want colorful symmetrical nameplates back

floral aspen
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Took me literally 2 seconds to google that info

umbral reef
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Can literally google these things yourself kekw

torpid mason
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Also, what's the deal with the guy being banned from this discord for saying "lemon"

floral aspen
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People have been spamming it

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It's not like some dude randomly said lemon and got banned

torpid mason
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Oof, that's sour.

jade carbon
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Why is there no way to submit anonymous feedback? via the feed back website?

torpid mason
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oof the dislike ratio on the video is 1 to 3.

vocal shard
torpid mason
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LOL

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So, vrchat has been getting that ontop of the ddos's attacks and other stuff

jade carbon
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with this update being so controversial id rather not be targeted for even posting my actual thoughts regarding this ordeal

dire thicket
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Im kinda wondering, how much more fragmented the vrc "community" will become after this vrc+ hits public. It's already in pieces.

torpid mason
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just add another group to the fragments we got now

floral aspen
torpid mason
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No, but the ones against the idea might push those with the support badge away.

dire thicket
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There was already division with the so called "Saftey ranks" you all were on about.

torpid mason
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Making them unwanted in lobbies, causing them to seek shelter among their own kin.

floral aspen
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If they push you away because you have a badge on your nameplate then were they really someone you'd want to hang out with in the first place?

worthy oracle
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facts ^

hasty wedge
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pls release vrc+ only worlds

torpid mason
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There's more then that, theres the streamer groups, the rp groups, private lobby only groups and such.

jade carbon
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It's already being suggest of vrc+ only exclusive worlds/instances

hasty wedge
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i dont want to see anymore tooth brush ppl

torpid mason
jade carbon
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That's the most cancerous suggestion ever

dire thicket
hasty wedge
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the tooth brush ppl are even more cancer this is the best suggestion in history

floral aspen
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If they give you shit for a badge, fuck'em and move on, that simple

vocal shard
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VRC+ exclusive worlds would be a terrible idea.

jade carbon
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And a troll has arrived

hazy obsidian
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Nice trolling

hasty wedge
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how is it a terrible idea u dont have to pay for it if u dont like it πŸ€”

vocal shard
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Nice name.

hasty wedge
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ty dood

dire thicket
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VRC+ exclusive worlds will ruin alot of things.

floral aspen
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There were 25,000+ people online last night. I'm sure you can find some who won't give a shit either way

vocal shard
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Hey

umbral reef
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@hasty wedge Go into PC only worlds πŸ‘Œ
A lot less quest kiddies there

dire thicket
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Regardless if someone doesn't give a shit, you'll have people who do. it's not about not saying it won't happen, it's asking how much of it will happen.

jade carbon
#

I agree with darkone

hasty wedge
#

the pc only worlds are lame tho its the same worlds for the past 50 years

#

atleast new worlds appear once every 8 months in the quest ones

jade carbon
#

Lol I bet your not even half of 50

floral aspen
#

And it's up to you whether you ignore them or not. Unlike the real world you can teleport to a different world in vrchat

vocal shard
#

Not really though, anyways, if you really wanted to avoid them so badly, than just use private worlds, making exclusive worlds would simply divide the community more. Just because you can't deal with them, doesn't mean you have to suggest a stupid idea like that.

jade carbon
#

Exactly more private aspects will make the game feel less populated

floral aspen
#

Or block them and make them disappear

worthy oracle
#

you guys worry too much, I am opposed to the idea in some ways but it’s really not that serious. VRC+ features aren’t even that bizarre. No one is going to care whether you chose to support the game and sub or not

jade carbon
#

That's detrimental to a game based entirely off social aspects

hasty wedge
#

everyone is in private already wdym less populated πŸ€”

dire thicket
vocal shard
#

when vrc+ beta close?

dire thicket
#

Maybe you understand that but refuse to acknowledge?

jade carbon
#

I request the ability to post anonymous feed back on the website

dire thicket
#

I request people to stop erping all the time

floral aspen
#

No I acknowledge it. People will always find a way to view themselves as superior to another group of people. That's just life.

dreamy gorge
#

Are you guys talking about racial politics or something?

meager solstice
#

I @dire thicket stop erping

jade carbon
#

@dire thicket get differnt friends?

floral aspen
#

No, some are just concerned about elitism arising from VRC+

dire thicket
#

@meager solstice sure... that's what they all say

vocal shard
#

Well, I really don't think anyone is going to be truly elitest just because they paid some money to support devs.

jade carbon
#

@vocal shard lol it's already happening how can you say that

vocal shard
#

Really?

golden scaffold
floral aspen
#

At least they are getting rid of colored nameplates. Aside from the VRC+ badge all nameplates will look the same

jade carbon
#

Did you not just read that one guys name just earlier

vocal shard
hasty wedge
#

which one

frosty veldt
#

There are a lot more important things to be elitist about than if you have a VRC+ subscription

torpid mason
vocal shard
#

I mean, I know it happens with ranks, but I wouldn't really except the same for VRC+.

#

It isn't much of a bragging right to go: Yeah, I spent 10$.

jade carbon
#

So when does the ban wave for clients start? Upon the new update?

worthy oracle
#

I don’t understand all the worry. Arrogant people and people that feel as if they are over others because of things will always do their thing. Y’all act like you haven’t run into toxic personalities before. This is like 5-10% of the community at most, you simply ignore those that feel that way. VRC+ in no way puts you over anyone else. Besides they are still spending their money to support this game.

torpid mason
dire thicket
#

^

ruby needle
#

75%... yeah...

twin fractal
#

not even close to 75%

torpid mason
#

Cuz who would still pay for VRC+ after that? Investers go brrr

jade carbon
#

Well it's against their rules sooo

torpid mason
dire thicket
#

Client users are atleast 40% of long term users though -realistically

jade carbon
#

If they dont enforce their own rules they going to hurt themselves by ignoring it

hollow grove
#

Which is why they haven't done anything to them in a general sense

civic lagoon
#

id agree with that figure

hollow grove
#

and most of those client users buy clients because of a lack of features in vrc in general

jade carbon
#

So I'm curious when the ban wave starts since said clients offer some of these features for free

twin fractal
#

way less than that. we've been over this before. 50% of the community can barely make a vrchat account without their hands being held.

hollow grove
#

fair point

frosty veldt
#

Downloading a keylogger to get more favorites πŸ˜”

torpid mason
#

There's multiple clients out there, most of them having their own discord channels, some of them having over 30k users.

twin fractal
#

but somehow they have clients LMAO

torpid mason
#

And you think that the number for client users is below 75%?

twin fractal
#

get outside of you're friend bubble and get some perspective

worthy oracle
#

I think it’s at least half of long term users.

hollow grove
#

probably true

torpid mason
#

Who said anything about friend bubble.

worthy oracle
#

New users though not so much (unless it’s an alt)

twin fractal
#

thats like me saying 90% of people use cocaine because i hang out with ravers

lean heart
#

I don't mean to butt in but the "long term users" is the key to that statement.

hollow grove
#

who has friends in vrc tho srsly

dire thicket
#

Well, theres alot of people who use cocaine on vrchat though

civic lagoon
#

ive ran into tons of new users who say they use a client

worthy oracle
#

yeah cause they been influenced by the long term

torpid mason
#

Considering peak users online was close to 20k in the past 30 days, and some of these discords having almost double the amount of people as member, i think its safe to say that there's a majority of client users.

civic lagoon
#

not only that its that they want features that arent in the game.

worthy oracle
#

you guys really think that modded clients are going to go away lol? they are not

floral aspen
#

Without accurate stats there's no way of knowing. Personal anecdotes don't count

jade carbon
#

@torpid mason I like how you use actual numbers instead of spewing baseless statements

torpid mason
#

Clearly, there's demand for features that the clients give that vrchat doesnt have by default

torpid mason
jade carbon
#

A true debater I like it

worthy oracle
#

Unity itself is full of exploits and those people that want to mod their client will do so. But I believe that a reason for a good portion of people using mods is cause this game lacks a lot of good features that third party creates.

dreamy gorge
torpid mason
#

Rather debate then masturbate during no nut.

jade carbon
#

Lmao

dreamy gorge
#

Do you enjoy debating @torpid mason?

torpid mason
#

Usually not.

dreamy gorge
#

And if so, do you have any interesting beliefs?

vocal shard
#

oh shit NNN started?

torpid mason
#

NOPE bye

jade carbon
#

Lmaoooooo

dreamy gorge
#

Oh, nevermind then.

torpid mason
#

Actually, here's what i believe.

jade carbon
#

I know vrc has some new method to check clients coming out for mods to instantly ban on release day of vrc+

torpid mason
#

I believe vrc+ is overpriced scam and misleading for the features they currently have planned.

jade carbon
#

@torpid mason this

vocal shard
frosty veldt
#

What are they scamming you out of?

vocal shard
#

rocks

jade carbon
#

Bruh XD

dire thicket
#

and sticks

torpid mason
#

Meanwhile, there's stuff posted on the canny 2 years ago that where listed as "planned" or "in progress" but still haven't been done.

vocal shard
twin fractal
#

they shouldve released it without feature then half these kids wouldnt be crying

floral aspen
#

Exactly. Those extra bonuses are just a thank you for supporting development

twin fractal
#

"Vrchat Donate" lmao

torpid mason
#

No, you're not understanding the point, the fact that it has features to begin with is wrong, if they wanted support, they didnt need to include features and nothing more then maybe a discord role like the nitro boosters have wouldnt been enough.

light acorn
#

If you upload your own models, the extra avatar slots are useless

twin fractal
#

non pleb move right there

vocal shard
#

I still haven't fill my 16

torpid mason
#

But if you HAVE to add features, current ones are disappointing to say the least.

floral aspen
vocal shard
#

The ability to send pictures with the messaging system will be nice

#

And ui reskins

torpid mason
#

Should be a basic feature in the game, not paid.

vocal shard
#

Kinda agree

#

But yeah

#

Well, VRChat got stuck between a rock and a hard place, if you add in Avatar slots people will just say 'You stole that feature from clients!' but if they don't than people will call them 'lazy'

dire thicket
#

Honestly, the vrc+ should just be advanced features by a few months so they're actually churning out things people have been asking for a long while.

vocal shard
#

Not everyone else is so willing to give money to the team though. The truth us many people just want features KomiPeek2

umbral reef
vocal shard
#

Yeah

jade carbon
#

Lol pictures with messages I sense lots of abuse on that feature

torpid mason
jade carbon
#

Like porn and ads or other grotesque things

umbral reef
#

Good thing you can only send it to people on your friends list

twin fractal
#

thanks to those people for funding the game

torpid mason
#

If you look at private server communities back in the day for some games, there was huge donations just to help out and keep the server running

floral aspen
torpid mason
#

So you can't say people wont be willing to pay without getting anything in return.

torpid mason
vocal shard
#

???? dont buy it then

twin fractal
#

the scope of this game is a lot bigger than people think. vrchat got fucked over by its own sucess tbh

umbral reef
#

Nice cope

floral aspen
#

Do you know how many people have claimed such and such will kill the game over the years? Lol

dire thicket
#

vrchat is constantly fucking itself over tbh

vocal shard
#

its a troll

umbral reef
#

So you expect them to run there servers on hope and prayers?

torpid mason
vocal shard
#

Honestly, if they added in no features, I don't think anybody would be complaining, because than it'd be seen as a tip jar of sorts.

twin fractal
#

these people live in a fairytale frog man dont bother

worthy oracle
torpid mason
#

investors expect a return.

floral aspen
#

Looks like we got another one that doesn't understand how investments work

twin fractal
#

another person that doesnt know what an investment is

torpid mason
umbral reef
#

So honest question
You actually believe yourself when you make that claim?
Do you really think they get thrown a big sack of money for no reason?
You know, like an investment that they gotta return and comes with limits?

twin fractal
#

really wish the userbase wasnt all 15 year olds

torpid mason
#

oof

umbral reef
#

KEKW
The seething

floral aspen
#

Yeah that's a troll

vocal shard
#

whos pill

twin fractal
#

lmao

dire thicket
#

Really wish the userbase wasn't always in private worlds or hiding behind orange status.

floral aspen
jade carbon
#

@dire thicket orange status is pretty cancer

vocal shard
#

Does everybody get called a troll in this godforsaken chat?

#

oh CEO of vrchat

worthy oracle
#

orange status needs to go

torpid mason
#

Pillboy from The good place

dire thicket
#

@jade carbon orange status is cancer and no one uses red when lots of people used to use it all the time

heady salmon
#

And some of ya'll complain about furries and weebs for just existing, while you're acting like this. smh

floral aspen
twin fractal
#

furries are chill

rough knot
#

paying for quality of life, like the avatar limit, is, honnestly, really stupid, the nameplate thing... maybe, useless, but some people would use it. The thing they should do, and that wouldnt be annoying, would be maybe running an add when you load a world. like im alrady stuck there for 2 mins, might aswell watch the add to not die of boredom

umbral reef
vocal shard
umbral reef
#

Literally sending the adds to people might cost more then the money they can earn kekw

dire thicket
#

then someone would just make a client to hide the ad.

rough knot
#

yah, they pay jack shit in low quantities

floral aspen
#

I wonder how many people actually use more than 25 slots?

twin fractal
#

Vrchat Adblock kek

vocal shard
#

Oh, I was confused, because people kept on saying troll and didn't specify who it even was.

calm bane
#

yo

vocal shard
#

loads into world RAID SHADOW LEGENDS

floral aspen
#

Lmao

umbral reef
# rough knot yah, they pay jack shit in low quantities

Highly targeted advertisements that track you while having an engagement option pay jack shit as you know from youtube.
VRC wont have any of that, you cant expect people to click the adds and buy stuff, tracking isnt in the game and ect.

The adds would be 100x less worth then even other adds if you even get that lucky.

twin fractal
#

Subscription or the game not being free. Pick.

rough knot
#

in all honnesty, when mods were not being broken at every updates by the game and I was still using them, I had more than 250 avatars saved up, memes and cool avatars, now Im using my own uploaded avatars and those mere 15 slots

hazy veldt
#

I'd be up for it if it was a one-time payment instead of a subscription, but I know that that doesn't always work well with actively developed games

rough knot
#

10$ US is a bit too much honnestly

floral aspen
#

In an average VRChat session how many of those 250 would you actually use though?

hazy veldt
#

I just don't like subscriptions

rough knot
#

yah, for a one time paiment, id buy it, not as a subscription

vocal shard
#

If it was just a 10$ one time payment VRChat would make jack shit.

umbral reef
#

Like i think we all agree the price needs to be lower until they actually add content
As even giving the team 10 bucks for development feels odd

vocal shard
#

They have to pay back the investment and keep the servers up

hazy veldt
#

I don't mean a $10 one time purchase, I mean much higher

heady salmon
#

I would gladly buy the game for like 30-40 bucks if it means filtering out the worst people and improving everything.

twin fractal
#

10 is too much agreed. specially for the lackluster shit they mentions so far

vocal shard
rough knot
torpid mason
#

De ja vu.

hazy veldt
#

If there was either a $10 a month, or a $150 for forever, I'd prefer the 150

vocal shard
#

It wouldn't be a reliable source of income for VRChat, how many people do you think of VRChat's playerbase are willing to shell out 10$ once for a few little perks.

rough knot
#

not a lot

vocal shard
#

I mean, most people are pretty young, I don't think they'd go up to their parents and go "Mom, can I spend 10$ for a cool little badge on My name in a VR game?"

floral aspen
#

I bet less than 10% of the total player base are going to get VRC+. If it was a one time payment that would be a drop in the bucket

jade carbon
#

I'm loving the lemon meme haha

torpid mason
umbral reef
#

If 10% of the playerbase gets it they are set lmao
Thats an insanely high number of all users tidus

vocal shard
#

To be honest, I’ve put so many hours into vrchat that 10$ a month is nothing. I’ve spent 60$ on games I never ended up playing so like..

umbral reef
#

Maybe 10% of those ' I got 150K hours in VRC' players

torpid mason
rough knot
vocal shard
#

I'm spending that much on a gmod server I never use KomiWhat

umbral reef
#

Spend it on me instead jamie 😳

torpid mason
dire thicket
#

I have a minecraft server i need to use more actually fuck

vocal shard
umbral reef
#

Way better investment spending it on me

twin fractal
#

instead of making the announcement, after getting 200k hours in game tupper should spawned in your instance and offered you the option to subscribe to VRChat Elite for $10/mo

umbral reef
#

'VRchat 2!'

torpid mason
vocal shard
#

Yeah, but on a daily basis VRChat gets around, let's say 15-20,000 users, having only 10% of them give a one time payment, well that wouldn't be a lot, especially considering how much money companies invest in them, they need to make that money back somehow, so I think doing it monthly would rake in more cash, but less people would be willing to do it.

heady salmon
#

vrchat 2 technically already exists vrcVPoorThinking

twin fractal
#

"You've passed the entrance test. You have proven yourself worthy." - Tupper

rough knot
dire thicket
vocal shard
#

I think people are forgetting this is optional

heady salmon
#

While I agree it doesn't make much sense, it's not 'hateful' either tho.

vocal shard
#

Optional, and free got perks as well

umbral reef
#

Please, we are not forgetting anything.
How can we forget something we refuse to learn and know.

twin fractal
#

eh even as an option its worth talking about

floral aspen
torpid mason
hazy veldt
#

Oooh! What if each feature cost a certain amount, like as microtransactions? For example, $20 to unlock the icons, and $1 for every extra slot you want?

rough knot
umbral reef
twin fractal
#

if it were half price id hop on but currently im on the fence

rough knot
#

otherwise, who cares about adding a picture to your nameplate

vocal shard
#

Except they’re adding more slots for free anyways

#

ah time for another lovely saturday night drinking in vrchat

hazy veldt
#

Wait, how many extra slots are being added for free?

rough knot
#

only 10

floral aspen
torpid mason
hazy veldt
#

Hey, I'm hyped about the 10 slots then

torpid mason
hazy veldt
#

I no longer care about the subscription, 10 more free slots is hype

ancient barn
#

$17 USD for Walking Dead VR + 7 other games over at Humble Bundle right now... Just a helpful FYI for anyone that doesn't own it yet

dire thicket
#

I mean, alot what is getting to people is how it's "Shilled" as good without taking in account the negativity it can bring or what's not being done. Getting to it, people have been looking at alt- vrc games since vrchat still has little to none security

rough knot
#

honnestly, that's pretty much the only good thing about the release of VrChat+ 10 slots for the avatars xd

umbral reef
hazy veldt
#

oh, 9 slots is still hype

twin fractal
#

Unlock 1 slot for ever 100 trust points you earn

#
  • Redpill, probably
vocal shard
#

Damn, I wish I actually started buying some shit from Humble Bundle.

frosty veldt
#

Other social games security won't work once the player base gets large enough.

dire thicket
torpid mason
vocal shard
torpid mason
#

Nevermind, there goes my theory

rough knot
#

what's with the thrust points thing... never heard of that .-.

twin fractal
#

they should make use of the trust system or rework it entirely

ancient barn
#

Thank you! I just saw it doga!
@dire thicket No problem, $17 USD for a $40 USD game is too hard to pass up especially for +7 other games, just sharing the love since someone told me

torpid mason
twin fractal
#

or that

vocal shard
umbral reef
torpid mason
umbral reef
#

Also if i could stop having hickups that would be nice
Been at it for 30 minutes now and kinda wanna sleep

dire thicket
rough knot
#

what if im alrady a trusted user .-.

ancient barn
#

@torpid mason No no, one time purchase. You can get humble monthly, but not for The Walking Dead VR bundle

torpid mason
vocal shard
#

Yeah, I really have been dying to play Walking Dead: Saints and Sinners, I didn't even know you could get it for that cheap off of the bundle.

floral aspen
ancient barn
#

@vocal shard /bow /bow I typically forget to check Humble bundle. Great way to save monies

torpid mason
#

I'm gonna play genshin on the toilet. So i'm out for tonight. Cya

ancient barn
#

@vocal shard Yeah I just picked it up, should be fun. The wifey has been dying to play it since we got a VR

vocal shard
#

So where exactly can I get VRC+? I’d love to support the developer team VRChat is legitimately my second life (maybe my first life??) and I’d hate to see it go because they couldn’t keep up with the cost

mild juniper
#

i dont think its out yet

frosty veldt
ancient barn
#

"VRChat Plus is coming soon. It isn’t released yet, but you can hop on our Open Beta to try out the new features for free for a limited time!"

vocal shard
#

I wonder if VRChat will ever get out of early access hell.

dire thicket
#

Hopefully beta doesn't end until after Christmas* (and the new year)

ancient barn
#

I've never had an issue dropping money on a "Free to Play" game, I do have HUGE issues though with other games that already have monthly subs and add loads of microtransactions though... I'm looking at you WoW!

golden scaffold
mild juniper
dark yarrow
#

I have a question about video players

ancient barn
#

@mild juniper Exactly... Purely cosmetic microtransactions are totally fine in my book.

dark yarrow
#

has anyone found a fix for the issue of video players not working. I was looking at the vrchat support ticket for it and did everything on it. uninstalled and reinstalled. Did it again. Nothing, I've just been trying to watch videos but no fixes I've found online have been a true "fix"

vocal shard
#

Hm, well I know a long time ago when my video player wasn’t working I deleted and re-installed the youtube dll file and re installed it. Not sure if this is an official way to fix this or if it even still would work since they’ve updated video players since then.

torpid mason
dark yarrow
dire thicket
supple viper
#

Lol^

torpid mason
vocal shard
dark yarrow
#

I've been trying to fix this issue for a minute and nothing works

torpid mason
vocal shard
#

When you delete and re install the game, did you delete your entire VRChat folder?

dire thicket
supple viper
#

I was gonna say that ^

dark yarrow
supple viper
#

Lol.

vocal shard
#

XD

supple viper
#

What is happy anyways πŸ˜„

torpid mason
dire thicket
mild juniper
supple viper
#

I’m gooood I don’t need hentai in my dmmsssss

dire thicket
#

I'm facepalming now @torpid mason

ancient barn
supple viper
#

LOL

vocal shard
#

Why are they called slim Jim’s when they’re starting to get less slim???

mild juniper
#

yes

ancient barn
#

lol nice, I don't miss living in commiefornia

mild juniper
#

but not commie also lets not get into politics

supple viper
#

DAMN

ancient barn
#

NP, thought it was a meme at this point

stoic topaz
#

graped beans

supple viper
#

facepalming also at @torpid mason

ebon sequoia
#

Im just getting into VRChat, where can I find some models? Either like web browser or in game

torpid mason
#

Mou.

mild juniper
#

i have had to deal with people saying that and i just find the insult unoriginal like if your going to insult someone or someplace make somthing original

vocal shard
#

I like beans, I like all kinds of beans. Baked beans, refried beans, green beans, jelly beans....

mild juniper
supple viper
#

Jelly beans are the only good beans change my minddddd

vocal shard
#

The red kind

heady salmon
ebon sequoia
#

Any worlds you'd recommend?

mild juniper
#

well what kind of avatars are you looking for

supple viper
#

You find avatars in game

vocal shard
ebon sequoia
#

Gengar (if possible)
Otherwise No real particular theme

mild juniper
#

i remember there was one

#

i cant remember the name though

worthy oracle
#

hey guys are you excited for the VRChat Battle Pass

steel prism
#

I'm sad

mild juniper
#

@worthy oracle what do you mean if anything its more like discord nitro

supple viper
#

Vrchat battle pass lmao wtfffff

vocal shard
#

Dude if VrChat had a battle pass I would legit unlock everything and more. I’m almost never not on the game when I can be.

worthy oracle
#

lmfao

#

when you didn’t rank up for the next season and you spend money on VR coins to level up

supple viper
#

Gotta play 100+ of vrchat to unlock the features.

#

damn battlepasses so annoying.

jade copper
#

that would be too easy

leaden finch
#

Worst decision they ever made lol

supple viper
#

Lmfao

worthy oracle
#

β€œayo what tier are you”
i just got done getting VRC+ only instance access pog

jade carbon
vocal shard
#

β€œWhich portal we droppin boys?”

#

Vrchat battle Royale when?

supple viper
#

Hell yeah we be dropping at tilted towers my bois

steel prism
#

I need a mother

supple viper
#

I need a father

languid beacon
steel prism
#

I'm just a lonely child

hasty bear
#

does anyone have lag issues with vrchat still? when ever i have it freezing or lagging i would have to wait for an hour or close it down and re-open it....

solid ice
#

hi

steel prism
supple viper
#

Yep sad sad lonely child’s we are.

languid beacon
#

wtf is this some weird rp

vocal shard
#

~I need a hug~

steel prism
#

Pls help

worthy oracle
#

I’m just tryna rank up my vrc battle pass

steel prism
#

Give me parents

supple viper
worthy oracle
hasty bear
#

i'm pretty possitive this is an world wide issue that most vr users and those who use laptops have quite often on and off....and that it's not me that it's happening to

supple viper
#

LMAO group xp boost

worthy oracle
hasty bear
#

i mean like we're in 2020 now and everything else that's built with tech is running smoothly for 5 or so years, i just don't honestly get why the developers give us updates to vrchat but still leave us with on and off issues that are very easy to fix and solve.

#

there's like consoles that run smoothly than vrchat that i currently know like for instance there's nentindo's consoles and playstations too

peak ermine
#

Comparing VRChat to game companies that have been around for decades with huge development teams vrcLaughing

vocal shard
#

Well, the thing you don’t realize is most of the issues don’t come from the dev team it comes from creators. Because nobody cares to optimize their stuff.

potent fern
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I do 😦

supple viper
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It’s kinda true people are sometimes lazy to damn optimize their stuff

potent fern
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but yea, those eboy avatar with 150k poly and wacky shaders are oof

supple viper
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Those are the worst

vocal shard
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The dec team is actually quite good but they can’t optimize people’s stuff for them. They have added options to help by hiding poor avatars and shaders and effects but that’s as far as they can go with that

hasty bear
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i'm not a tech wiz or geek who's skilled in these matters but i do know by experience from using certain things that it isn't a smart thing to leave a community based game with lagg/freeze type issues. I've seen other companies advance and further their developments in tech items but what i haven't seen improved in over i'd say 9yrs is VR based head gear that would last you about 6 or so years with most of them being questionably usable, i don't hate that we have these but am concerned and mildly frustrates me seeing it each year being the same thing and people easily buying into it without considering to look further into it when buying an VR head gear for anything VR based.

supple viper
hasty bear
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plus VR chat plus is made to were you have to use actual money to be able to develop and personalize things

supple viper
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Not really develop just personalize things. Honestly.

shell bear
supple viper
vocal shard
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I firmly believe the devs are not the issue. They are quite good actually. If there is a problem that is on their end they tend to fix it quite quickly compared to other game developers. Again the lag issues and freezing is a creator issue because nobody optimizes their models. Do you know how relatively easy it is to decimate a models poly count in blender? Yet we still see avatars every day with 200k polygons. And for some reason like 120 material slots

supple viper
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I mean if they were that fix it quite quickly wouldn’t they already fixed that chair glitch?

hasty bear
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true but still i do still get those issues on and off

thick dagger
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It's mostly the dynamic bones that cause issues, though everything adds up, the draw calls from almost anything, like materials, and accessories that were added in unity instead of blender, polys are managed by GPU, and the other issues are CPU bound. And there's issues with the game not utilising cores as well as you'd hope.

inner cape
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people have always been lazy and theyll never stop

supple viper
inner cape
#

bean you writting an essay again?

vocal shard
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I’m just saying it’s harder than it looks to fix bugs and issues and a lot of times they get blamed for things that aren’t even their fault. Sucks cause it’s probably such a thankless job when the community acts so entitled.

inner cape
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Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

supple viper
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Meh, people will always cry and blame. Even if it isn’t their fault.

dire thicket
#

I mean this kinda gets back into about the talk about clients like before, alot of the time if theres a feature people want they'll just put into a client and poof there it is.

supple viper
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Clients are ew. Heard a lot of bad story’s about them ripping your password and stuff.

inner cape
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ripping passwords

inland knot
supple viper
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That’s what I’ve heard πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™‚οΈ

worthy oracle
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ripping passwords

vocal shard
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And then those features break your game and then people come complain here about their game being broken and laggy. Maybe if you didn’t have global dynamic bone colliders you wouldn’t be as laggy

worthy oracle
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^ straight facts some colliders are way too huge

shell bear
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nin is back in the convo

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poggers vrcNoerito

thick dagger
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Dynamic bones have and always will be the biggest contributor to lag, having to calculate the individual movement of several bones per section of hair, each ear and tail, jiggly bubbs etc.

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Then yes, there is the materials, and the other stuff after that. It all adds up after 10+ people are in a room. More so for the constant movement.

twin fractal
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fuck colliders

inner cape
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fuck dain

vocal shard
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What I mean is people will download mods to be able to mess with everyone’s dynamic bones and then be like β€œWhy am I lagging?”

twin fractal
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fuck of and give me my frames back

inner cape
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hell no

vocal shard
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Collider has entered the battle

thick dagger
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Unless 90% of the community have clients, I don't think it's a solid conclusion to come to.

inner cape
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i havent seen people who used those mods complain like that, bean

thick dagger
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around 20% are likely to have clients for optimization and other non- malicious crap

vocal shard
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cough cough WORLDS and AVATARS are badly optimized

thick dagger
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^

vocal shard
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If you’re not rocking a medium avatar or lower can’t complain about lag issues and optimization

inner cape
vocal shard
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Thonk

twin fractal
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lag come from people loading in or me looking at someone who put the source code for crisis in their hair

thick dagger
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yeah those are just lag spikes from loading it all in one go.

vocal shard
forest moth
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Is 25k triangles fine?

hasty wedge
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if u dont like lagging then just dont lag

forest moth
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That's about what the avatar I'm trying to set up has

vocal shard
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Only if you have 12k Circles

hasty wedge
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have u checked how many squares u have?

inner cape
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some people just dont care and would rather have you hide their avatar than sacrifice muh hair physics or atlas

thick dagger
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the lag from someones avatar being dumped onto your PC in one go could be lessened by spreading out what gets loaded

forest moth
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That's just what it said in VRoid Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

vocal shard
twin fractal
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25k trigs i pretty good

hasty wedge
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its just that simple

inner cape
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yo is that smug hackspanner

twin fractal
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default tda model with nothing is around 25-30

hasty wedge
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wow is that the ο½…ο½˜ο½ο½Œο½”ο½…ο½„γ€€ο½‡ο½ˆο½ο½“ο½”ο½ himself

inner cape
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lmao

obsidian herald
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Depends on your Rig on the Poly Count

supple viper
hasty wedge
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np (/ο½₯Ο‰ο½₯)/

inner cape
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just buy vrc+ and all your problems will be gone

twin fractal
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why doesnt tupper add an unlag button jfc πŸ’―

forest moth
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This is my first model and I have no idea what I'm doing so I can't tell you much else

vocal shard
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She’s people are starving? Just eat lol.

hasty wedge
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vrc+ is the future

supple viper
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All my problems? How about depression will that fix it

fiery cypress
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hey guys
when u upload a model quest compatable and quest players cant see, how long should it take for them to see it? does it need to register in the servers?

inner cape
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yes, it will

fiery cypress
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aight nice

hasty wedge
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ask them to wear glasses

inner cape
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wait no, not you

fiery cypress
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oh sorry

vocal shard
hasty wedge
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no

worthy oracle
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the VRC+ reveal video literally has 3.3k dislikes compared to 1.1k likes

supple viper
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Nice I guess I’ll pop in 10 dollars for my depression to F off lmao

forest moth
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Triangles: 25990
Materials: 14
Bones: 91

twin fractal
thick dagger
hasty wedge
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14 materials tupper WOULDNT APPROVE

vocal shard
white latch
peak ermine
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14 vrpill

fiery cypress
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weird, some of my friends cant see it even tho its quest compatable

hasty wedge
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those wont work either only glasses

vocal shard
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Yea I cant-

worthy oracle
twin fractal
vocal shard
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Jinkies! I can’t see withou my glasses!

inner cape
#

chat speed has risen suddenly

fiery cypress
vocal shard
#

Several people are typing...

hasty wedge
#

excuse me why was my lemon removed its my favorite vegetable

worthy oracle
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bruh

hasty wedge
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moderator pls explain the reasoning instead of hiding in the shadows

obsidian herald
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It's a Fruit

inner cape
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smug youre my favourite vegetable

scarlet dawn
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Anyone have a quest and their mix gets all weird sometimes

hasty wedge
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no u \\\\\

worthy oracle
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😳

inner cape
scarlet dawn
worthy oracle
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did you just reply to yourself

hasty wedge
#

typing here feels so lifeless without emotes orz

twin fractal
scarlet dawn
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Yes lmao

thick dagger
vocal shard
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No, but I have an index so I might need to rma my controllers sometimes

scarlet dawn
inner cape
#

off to random chat with you, smug vrcMimi

hasty wedge
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but ppl dont talk about vrc+ dere

scarlet dawn
inner cape
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not atm atleast

supple viper
hasty wedge
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ppl are complaining about vrc+ but the real p2w is nitro boosting this server 😒

vocal shard
#

Ugh I so want my emotes but I suppose moderating everyone’s emotes would be difficult

twin fractal
hasty wedge
inner cape
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now you can have 2 absolutely usele- supportive subcriptions, nitro boostin and vrc+

worthy oracle
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yo bet? brb boutta boost

twin fractal
#

green gang

worthy oracle
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back

hasty wedge
#

yellow gang πŸ‹

twin fractal
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green gang has lemon rights. 100% worth

inner cape
#

another one fallen for the meme

supple viper
#

I would boost but meh this server has already enough boosters LMAO.

hasty wedge
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o no he actually did it LOL

worthy oracle
vocal shard
#

The mad lad

twin fractal
hasty wedge
#

wut a madlad vrcAevSlap

supple viper
#

LMAOemoji

inner cape
worthy oracle
supple viper
inland knot
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jesus

hasty wedge
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boosting instead of buying a 4 four 4 at wendys

twin fractal
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soon we'll have enough power to overthrow the server

worthy oracle
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we will take over

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this message is sponsored by Green Gang

supple viper
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4 four 4 Wendy’s lmfao

vocal shard
#

Did someone say... Wendy’s 4 for 4?

worthy oracle
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πŸ‘€

hasty wedge
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ya its wut im eating instead of boosting the server rn

inner cape
#

green peasants

supple viper
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Yummy foooood

inland knot
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I don't have Wendy's in my country

vocal shard
#

I’m jealous

twin fractal
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wendysparrot green gang on it wendysparrot

hasty wedge
inner cape
#

the only good green is the frog 🐸

worthy oracle
#

green gang is just discord+

inland knot
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but I still pay money to boost here for literally no benefit whatsoever

hasty wedge
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unban pepe 😒

severe root
#

?

supple viper
inner cape
#

🐸 πŸ‹

worthy oracle
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vrc nitro boosters should get vrc+ discount πŸ‘€

hasty wedge
#

monkaTOS πŸ‘‰ πŸ‹

inland knot
#

no

twin fractal
#

just found a pregnant pepe emote LMAO

worthy oracle
#

wtf

inner cape
hasty wedge
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post it

inland knot
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LMFAO

worthy oracle
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don’t

inland knot
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pm it to me pls

hasty wedge
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me 2 pls

supple viper
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Wtffff

terse holly
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It they will get a ban because Pepe is a no no

worthy oracle
potent fern
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wait, they banned pepe?

hasty wedge
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theyre racist to frogs and lemons

worthy oracle
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pepe is good

potent fern
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is peepo good?

supple viper
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Lemons lmfao

terse holly
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Because to certain people (idiots) they are a hate symbol

vocal shard
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They don’t like putting chemicals in the water....

worthy oracle
#

HOW

inland knot
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yeah pepe is banned

inner cape
#

so was i

terse holly
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Nice

worthy oracle
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they don’t like putting chemicals in the water that turn the (freaking) frogs gay

inner cape
#

*not really

supple viper
#

LMAO emoji

obsidian herald
#

I think that was some time ago!

vocal shard
#

πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ 🐸

potent fern
#

They have something against πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ 🐸

worthy oracle
#

there’s actually a very interesting documentary about it

potent fern
#

about pepe? or the chemicals?

worthy oracle
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the chemicals, it’s on YouTube

supple viper
terse holly
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Did internet historian do a video of it?

vocal shard
worthy oracle
supple viper
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LMAO

worthy oracle
supple viper
worthy oracle
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We should watch the documentary and gather in open beta πŸ‘€

terse holly
#

but you would break the pepe rule...

worthy oracle
terse holly
#

its not my fault if you get clapped

lucid sandal
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Pepe is based.

terse holly
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pepe is life

potent fern
#

Watch out vrpill is coming!

vocal shard
#

is it possible to change my VRC name?

supple viper
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Yep, on the website.

vocal shard
#

ty

worthy oracle
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Why haven’t they added simple things like

  • portal dropping to a friends lobby (friends+ or public β€” friends included if person entering is friends with instance owner)
  • portal dropping through invite if public
  • I mean heck better overall portal dropping system since it’s pretty eh rn
  • Instance history
  • Player history
  • Toggles for stuff like chairs, portals, pedestals whatever

^ and other useful features and fixes to the game.

instead we get extra favorites and invite message if you sub to VRC+

vocal shard
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Some pretty decent ideas^^ although chair toggle is usually a world thing. But it would be nice to be able to toggle it through the menu in case there is no toggle

potent fern
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option to toggle things in general seem to be more of a design choice. This would removed the ability of individual creators to control how their world should be.

worthy oracle
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Well yeah I just think a lot of the more wholesome features that some mods have should just be implemented well in VRChat, and this would reduce incentive for a decent chunk of people to use modded clients and just make the game experience more enjoyable.

potent fern
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well the free bump to 25 avatars will already cover what i think people have been asking the most ( other than stability update) for QoL change.
The rest of what you proposed are also good thing they could work on in the future.

vocal shard
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I mean they could always implement options for worlds to ignore some toggles

worthy oracle
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Stuff like maybe instance master icon and dynamic bone interaction (as an option) for those that want that. More favorites (which I guess we are finally getting). For the full body users, calibration saving for avatars. Quality of life features like that should just be implemented to the game honestly.

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Even just closing the game can have a big delay sometimes and you need to force close with task manager. That hasn’t been fixed yet xD

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Here’s to hoping for lots of good features and fixes vrcLike

supple viper
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That is still damn annoying ^

worthy oracle
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For real

supple viper
#

Like Christ just let me close the damn game, I really do they fix all that when they push vrc+

worthy oracle
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And give us like join notifications for when people join a lobby and etc

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apoi_angry nod πŸ‘€πŸ˜³

potent fern
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yis!

worthy oracle
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anyway there’s too many things to add and fix xD I won’t bother writing all that here

stuck jungle
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my username: joompei
people pronouncing my username: jompy

worthy oracle
#

jumpy

potent fern
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Jumper?

coarse grove
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Nah man, join any among us room

vocal shard
#

Definitely not buddy, kids and parents don’t pay attention to the age rating

worthy oracle
#

I’ve met a 5 yr old using a vr headset

vocal shard
#

I’ve run across a nine year old in a public Black cat that was being sniffed by some person in a Herbert avatar. Definitely had the whole lobby report that creep

supple viper
#

Wtfffffff

vocal shard
sturdy burrow
#

e

worthy oracle
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lmao

sturdy burrow
#

i'm bored

worthy oracle
#

same

sturdy burrow
#

do u want to play among us (on vrchat)

upper inlet
#

anyone here interested on making a custom avatar

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obviously ill pay for it

sturdy burrow
#

nu i do not

upper inlet
#

dm me

vocal shard
#

You might look for open commissions on deviantart or Twitter too

delicate perch
vocal shard
#

hi

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Hello

tacit trail
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Anyone know of any Christmas tree avatars?

exotic oriole
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why does the search bar does not work when i go to the avatar section

tacit trail
#

You have to go to worlds to find certain avatars

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I think

crimson forum
#

So like no one is going to talk about the crushers attacks from last night

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They killed full on events ! Twitch streams were harmed

hasty wedge
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if twitch streams were harmed then it was for a good cause πŸ™‚

abstract vault
#

@crimson forum lol

cyan cobalt
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ya when is VRC gonna do something about the crashers?

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like they been a prob for a long time not to mention the targeted harassment of streamers all the time too

vocal shard
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Crashing has been patched out many times, but modders keep making new ways. It's a back and forth that happens due to how much freedom we have. The only way to really get rid of it would be to remove most of our customization and add really hard limits

cyan cobalt
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oh one more thing anyone know how the trust system will be effected bt VRC plus? will my nametag still show known user and stuff?

clever mirage
#

i've even seen a streamer who was doing a charity event get crashed constantly yesterday

cyan cobalt
vocal shard
clever mirage
sharp saddle
clever mirage
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i'm new to vrc but giving the host the option doesn't sound too crazy

cyan cobalt
#

man Im gonna miss my purple nameplate

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the thing that strikes me is that they said this is only their first step to monetization. I wont lie im nervous to see how far they take it. I mean of course they could have a built in avatar store and such but they moment I have to pay to upload a avatar or something im dipping.

vocal shard
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I think they are also going to work on ways for avatar creators to monetize their content as well. Similar to the different events where some creators are able to show off their avatars and then you can buy them

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But that's just speculation

cyan cobalt
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im curious with the amount of avatars and worlds the servers must have loaded at all times will the staff ever do a purge of inactive accounts uploads and such in order to lighten the load om their servers? I know youtube dose something similar but in a different way. but Im not on staff so ill never know lol

dark harness
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Most of us would rather be working on fun features than monetization stuff - in particular any time I see a payment API my brain melts out my ears a little bit. But I think we've publicly established that we'd like to build a way for creators to earn money through our application - if anything because we hope that'd make the creations bigger and better, and keep our creators fed and happy.

shut zodiac
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I, personally am very hopeful for the future of monetizing creators content, officially supported systems would be lovely AmazePoi

cyan cobalt
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ya, I took one coding class and I couldn't imagen the pain of working months writing testing and fixing code for something you yourself don't even believe in.

dark harness
#

I can't imagine that pain either. πŸ˜„

#

I believe, deep down in my heart, that VRChat+ is a good product, a necessary evil, out of all of the ways we could have monetized it was one of my "top 10 least evil" picks

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number 1 was, of course, to have the whole company marry a very old, very rich man

cyan cobalt
#

yall are supported by HTC and Vive I think you already did

sharp saddle
dark harness
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Ah ah ah, we were "invested in" by HTC, that's not the same thing. Investors are not benefactors.

vocal shard
#

Usually investors want to be paid back

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That's kinda the whole point

cyan cobalt
#

true, im no business man im sure I wouldn't understand the half of it

dark harness
#

It means they own a piece of our company and they want that piece of our company to pay off. The fact that we happen to legitimize VR and sell a lot of their headsets is nice, but we don't ... actually benefit from that at all πŸ˜› (they do!)

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Aside from "by reputation" πŸ˜›

cyan cobalt
#

if it wasnt for VRchat I wouldn't have got a VR headset so that's true

dark harness
#

Plus we have other investors who are not HTC who want the company to be profitable because otherwise they wasted their money and we're all fired.

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I'd have to go back to writing infrastructure to run tests against smartphones you guys it is so boring THERE ARE SO MANY SMART PHONES

cyan cobalt
#

oh ya lets try and keep yall employed lol

shut zodiac
#

how long has VRC+ been planned?

cyan cobalt
#

also well I have you here a lot of people had dynamic bones and the ability to interact with other peoples avatars like touch hair and stuff in their clients not that I have ever ran a client. and I also know that it would probably increase the required specs just a bit due to how bones can be tolling on some hardware. has the team ever thought about implementing them as a base thing?

cyan cobalt
flat fox
#

Hi there. Is there are Nvidia ansel like screenshot tool for vrchat or it isn't supported yet

dark harness
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I started working on VRC+ in February, which is about as close as I can think of to the true start date of the project. Base payment tech was done by May. There are a lot of other moving parts that we've been working on since then - subscriptions, permissions, user icons, prep work for other features that aren't launching for a bit.

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I think I spent too long on permissions TBH - I built it intending to use it to replace our kind of duct-tape-and-gum existing permissions system which is almost entirely based on tags

cyan cobalt
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was there any permissions or features for VRC+ that were planned but didn't pan out?