#vrchat-general-2

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desert stratus
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look i know hard drives are slow but they'll always be faster than shit internet

umbral reef
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  1. Loading new avatars from the drive or online, what loads it onto the drive and then ingame instead of just from the drive should be the same.
  2. Thats not how it works, read above. And to add onto that, the services that perform VRC downloading are capped.
vocal shard
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you know you need clear cache to play little sister games

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it horror map by way

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and there people out there who dont want mest with c drive why well they might brake there computer try to mess with it

ruby burrow
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Yeah, I'm leaning on what Oclac is saying here. Anything downloaded surely still needs to be written to cache first and then loaded to the game right? I can't imagine how in any case it'd be faster coming via download.

vocal shard
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exactly squishy

desert stratus
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no did you know that in build 978 vrchat can now beam content directly into your mind

vocal shard
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the game isnt magically streaming the assets for you until it's downloaded in your cache
you download it and then it will retrieve from the ssd/hdd

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little sister horror maps has lot of cache and people who play map say you must clear the cache befor start the map

umbral reef
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Like the only reason you could be wanting to be having a clean cache constantly is so the drives dont fill up
But for that you can just change the folder it stores the information in

vocal shard
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google symlink for anyone interested in that ^

umbral reef
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Its a ingame thing now aint it

ruby burrow
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You don't need Symlink anymore Svel

vocal shard
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i only clear cache on vrchat it easy and some people are lazy

twin fractal
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so many people left VRChat that it doubled in concurrent users. that's a gamer move

vocal shard
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I'm not gonna rely on sometihng made by vrc, sorry

ruby burrow
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You can make a config for it as part of the game. It's not in game dirrectly, but is very simple.

umbral reef
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@vocal shard Not doing so can actually break the cleaning button
but at the same time if your doing it manually you can also just manually clear it like old

ruby burrow
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Lol. I suppose that's somewhat fair...
Though far as I understand this was added since Symlinks broke.

vocal shard
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I don't want to clear

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I have no reason to clear it
if i moved it somewhere else it's obviously somewhere with more storage space
so unless some big issue happen, there is no reason whatsoever for me to clear that cache

ruby burrow
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Makes enough sense, just so long as it's still recycling correctly.

twin fractal
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I haven't cleared in months either

vocal shard
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I ahvent cleared it in 3 years

ruby burrow
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That's one extra addition I'd like to see now. The ability to define a higher amount of max storage space.

vocal shard
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you know restart to clear cache is dumb

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and then delete the older stuff ?

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lot of my friend hate restart to clear cache

ruby burrow
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Far as I understand it's capped at 20gb, and then starts recycling older downloads.

vocal shard
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and no one will get it

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well too fucking bad for them, they'll still need to do it
get over it

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you know half people dont know to do that restart to clear cache and to chage c drive

umbral reef
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I love how the only reason you can argue for against it comes down to the game maybe keeping old data that it isnt supposed to keep that can ruin extremely big maps.

sacred wigeon
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Fuck this shitty update, it's bad and they need to revert it

static flax
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thats kinda on them for not looking at announcements for the game thats still in beta my dude

umbral reef
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Also most people dont need to use it so thats fine

vocal shard
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thank you mystia for get it

static flax
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imagine being upset cause a game still in development is being developed

vocal shard
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remove the restart to clear cache

umbral reef
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@sacred wigeon Whats so bad about it then?

vocal shard
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imagine being upset because you need to restart a game
fucking heresy dude
how dare they make you restart a game

languid beacon
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I’ve been charting the online users over time. Yes it’s only been increasing. It’s highest on Friday and Saturday nights but the low points in the middle of the week are steadily rising

sacred wigeon
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The fact that you have to actually change things in your C drive which I dare not touch because I might fuck something up and that goes to other people

umbral reef
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@sacred wigeon Oh since when do you have to change it?

vocal shard
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oh shit, i clicked on a folder in the C drive, time to format my pc

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that what i say mystia but these people dont get it

ebon hazel
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No you two are just being stubborn

sacred wigeon
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These are the kind of people that have a god PC and boast about it

vocal shard
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sleepy you being dumb

ruby burrow
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There's nothing that requires you to do that Mystia.

static flax
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If you're scared of doing things in your c drive because you're too lazy to research what to actually be modifying, you should probably go buy a console tbh

vocal shard
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i sorry to say this people who think it good thing is dumb as fuck

vital flame
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i agree

desert stratus
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touching things on your C drive might fuck up your PC? i have bad news for you if you've turned it on today or are using it right now, then

vital flame
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why are you people backing vrchat for a stupid update

ebon hazel
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Kids these days

umbral reef
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But since when do you need to change that C drive stuff Mystia?
Even for weak pc's it should be fine unless the drive is extremely full. But there isnt a lot the game can do about that. Good thing you can though.

vital flame
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agreed

static flax
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Who said they're not going to fix it?

vital flame
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and most of you people are quest users

vocal shard
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i dont care if i get ban for you people think this update is good thing stop being fucking dumb and i am 24 thank you

ruby burrow
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It's litterally just you choosing a different location to store your cache. You're not "changing things in your C drive" and you're not "messing with your C drive".

vocal shard
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good day

languid beacon
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You know you can create anything on your root c drive folder right? Windows used like windows, program files, and users. You can delete all of the other folders with no ill effects

ebon hazel
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You're 24 yet acting like a stubborn kid my dude

umbral reef
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@vital flame Been playing the game before the knuckle user boom even so kekw
Also instead of saying whats bad, voice why you think its bad instead.

vocal shard
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i leave

static flax
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👋

ebon hazel
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Lmao bye

vocal shard
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i been play vrchat sean start

ruby burrow
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If you've ever chosen to install a game or where to save a file, this is no different.

static flax
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congrats bye

vocal shard
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oh yah you all are think think this update to restart to clear cache is good

vital flame
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yet litterally restarting vrchat to clear cache is the most fucked up, ratarded thing i've ever seen vrchat of doing

lament siren
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does anyone here use a modmic? I have rift s robot mic and I’m trying to look for alternatives

languid beacon
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👋 welcome back

vocal shard
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didn't you say you were leaving ?
go away if you just want to insult us and be angry at nothing

umbral reef
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@vital flame Again why do you think its bad ebcause using insults against it wont make it any better

vocal shard
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24 year old and acting like an entitled brat

ebon hazel
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We really using the hard r here huh

ruby burrow
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Did anyone even ask him his age? I mean, I was hugely suspicious about it, but I didn't see anyone actually ask.

ebon hazel
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Nah they just got defensive when I called them a kid

vital flame
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that and saying im leaving as well

static flax
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I'm actually so floored that this many people believe that the devs are actively trying to improve something by removing it for awhile to make it better

umbral reef
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@ruby burrow Nah no one did but he felt challenged so had to show an form of autority.
And the most easy one is age.

languid beacon
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I once called this kid a 9 year old in murder2, he got offended and corrected me saying he was 8.

ebon hazel
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LOL

vital flame
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i never said i was leaving or giving out my age

ebon hazel
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We aren't talking about you

languid beacon
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I’ll give you a single guess as to what avatar he was wearing

vocal shard
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brush

vital flame
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knuckles

languid beacon
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Brush

vocal shard
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😎

ebon hazel
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Of course

vital flame
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ugh

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THOSE types of people...

ruby burrow
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Key part of this ridiculous argument, is the way people cling to bad myths and superstitions. This guy and several others were so convinced in their placebo that spamming clear cache would help performance, that they were willing to throw a tantrum and threaten to quit over losing imaginary FPS.

vital flame
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damn trendsetters

static flax
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Okay for real, what's this brush thing

ebon hazel
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Whenever I go to public worlds and see that brush avi it's been a 99% chance that it's a kid on quest, running and screaming all over the place.

umbral reef
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@ruby burrow Id pay to have the dev team make an announcement about an fake update that 'improves FPS for everyone' without actually changing anything and waiting for the flood of users complaining the performance is worse now

languid beacon
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Well it’s not entirely false there is a lot of truth behind it. If you have crap harddrive speeds and fast internet you really are better off with zero cashing. The difference is substantial in terms of load times. But it’s a drag on VRC’s bandwidth

vocal shard
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@static flax an avatar made by Blusaxis
used by joshdub in a video

ruby burrow
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Lol. Oh man. That would 100% happen.

vocal shard
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Joshdub is popular with children and so that brush avatar is super popular amongs them
also helps that the model is avaialble for quest user

vital flame
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idk why kids even get vr... even when they dont deserve it... oh wait, cause if they dont, they go on a bitch fit

static flax
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I take it there's some obnoxious phrase kids are saying to the span of "do you know the way"?

umbral reef
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@languid beacon Its cache, it still downloads onto the drive and then loads it within VRC.
Your talking about miliseconds for each avatar what makes it in tech therms worthless

desert stratus
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also changing cache directory is pog

vocal shard
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squizma > "nono zone" or some shit like that

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that's just wrong adeon, please stop

static flax
desert stratus
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i no longer have to dO DaNgErOuS ThIngS tO mY CdRiVe (read: continuously read and write 20gb from my ssd) and can just put it all on my hard drive instead which is nice

vocal shard
languid beacon
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Oh you haven’t seen the circle of hell that is quest-exclusive worlds

ebon hazel
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"stop don't touch me there, this is my nono square" is what blew the brush avi meme up

desert stratus
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@languid beacon those exist?

ruby burrow
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I was playing a bit of Total War last night, and couldn't help but facepalm when I told a unit to move and heard them say the voice line, "I know the way!" ._.

desert stratus
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last night someone made me remember that meme and i had to stop and let the ptsd subside

ebon hazel
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I die inside when I still hear people say dead memes

languid beacon
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Yes quest exclusive worlds exist, you can’t see them as a PC user because they don’t show up in search.

100% of the room is quest users and it’s invariably filled with squealing.

static flax
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I havnt gone to may quest stuff, never really cared tbh

desert stratus
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nah its been long enough that de wae^tm has graduated

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it is now legacy

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@languid beacon sounds cool. if the "quest lite" or whatever has pc passthru i might buy it sinc eitll def be cheaper than cv1 and has a higher chance of working with my new pc

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then i can...visit...the final layer of vrchat

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quest-only worlds, where the only thing that matters is how well your ears can stand the screaming of children in virtual reality

languid beacon
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You definitely don’t wanna go there once the quest 2 is out after the holidays

ebon hazel
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Sad that the Summer Solitude world that I really like going to is quest optimized so I have to deal with kiddos

desert stratus
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no thats what makes it great, i will be drowning in hell

languid beacon
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The worst one is the new hub, the portal in default home on quest leads to a public quest-only instance of the hub

desert stratus
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itll be like that scene from toy story 3

languid beacon
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Quest vrc has some nice worlds though. Suprised that Midnight Rooftop is quest compatable doesn’t even look different

ebon hazel
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Oh yeah I was surprised too, it's so gorgeous

desert stratus
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@languid beacon called it

vocal shard
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lex is good creator

desert stratus
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the only people who make worlds for quest are peoplew ho can actually make worlds

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now i rlly wanna see that

ebon hazel
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Not really, not all creators should cater to quest users

vocal shard
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i wish quest users would not play vrc

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they're all little shit kids

umbral reef
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Without them VR would have no future though

languid beacon
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I’ll jump on quest for private world chilling when it’s not important that I actually see my friends avatars. I don’t go in public on quest, can’t see anything and everyone’s in Pc only worlds anyway

vocal shard
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yes it would

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vrc was so much better before quest

languid beacon
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I don’t think it changed at all to be honest

umbral reef
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I said VR rain, not VRC

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Also kinda doubt that as the game is a lot less buggy and broken now then back then

loud lintel
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luckily i joined recently so idk what it used to be like

languid beacon
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As a quest user I am definitely not seeing any uptick in content that I can actually see

vocal shard
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i really want the 2017 loading screen

ebon hazel
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I mean it did bring much more attention to the VR scene, with it being a cheaper alt

languid beacon
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So I don’t think quest has had any major impact on VR chat

jovial kestrel
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I also miss the old loading screen.

vocal shard
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except bringing more screaming kids

ebon hazel
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Ahh the good ol days of the space loading screen

vocal shard
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i wish we have an option to pick which loading screen

umbral reef
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Imagine not being lucky enough with your internet and ISP that you barely get to see the loading screen

ebon hazel
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For some reason the music creeped me out

vocal shard
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i would love to have the 2017 loading screen with the music

languid beacon
vocal shard
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bring back gaia night golden days, thanks

umbral reef
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Cafe leblanc tho @vocal shard

vocal shard
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omg yes

loud lintel
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lol

umbral reef
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Legit, i dont have a big nostalgia bone, but the people who vibed in that world when it was getting popular and before it dropped where something else

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Also, i have made more props for my 'too be yet edited and ect' avatar then i made progress on the avatar kekw

vocal shard
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you still play the game ?

static flax
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God I do miss when gaia night was so popular

umbral reef
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Yea
But not with other people

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Exploring worlds and just vibing is way more fun then VRC people

vocal shard
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anyone remember fish person's cove

desert stratus
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exploring worlds is fun

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too bad i cant do it in vr for a while ;n;

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there's this cool old ass world called SleepoVR

vocal shard
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i feel like i lost some kind of feel like when i first started vrchat it was amazing now its like ehh idk what it is

umbral reef
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The freshness has faded

vocal shard
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i used to fall in love with worlds

umbral reef
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And most people are tbh not worth it in this game

vocal shard
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i wonder if people feel the same way i did back when i first started.

languid beacon
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I think favoring and cloning makes world exploration happen less

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These days new players get their avatars off others who have them already

umbral reef
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I personally think that cloning avatars was the biggest mistake inside the game

cedar rose
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i haven't even been playing for long and i feel like my attitude towards the game has changed

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just like 230 hrs

umbral reef
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Favorites are dope as fuck, but going to the world of the avatar instead of cloning it would have IMO helped the game foster a different type of community

languid beacon
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Cloning and favoring is fine. I just feel like the blueprint itself should be able to choose to opt out of it

vocal shard
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my favorite worlds were fish person's cove, open mic night, old japan shrine, avatar testing, never have i ever, nieR automata, silent beach, hangout and sleep, and the box

cedar rose
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one of my friends has a nice simple world we chill in

static flax
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Oh god, I remember having to go to the box to hang out with my streamer friends
Yikes

umbral reef
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The box KEKW

cedar rose
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i still go to public pugs but i don't go there to make friends like i used to i just kinda people watch now if my friends aren't online

jaunty oasis
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Lol same

languid beacon
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I would just open up my camera and talk to it and everyone would assume I’m a streamer and do things in front of me even through I never claimed I was streaming

cedar rose
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i don't like how ppl act when streamers are around tbh

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at least the ones i've encountered. quite loud

loud lintel
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yea same

static flax
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I made models for streamers back when the scene was actually worth something. You get kinda used to it after awhile

umbral reef
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Streamers are kinda a problem from both sides
People want attention and a streamer can give them lots of people to leach.
Streamers want content and explosive people count as content and push for it.

cedar rose
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a streamer joined our conversation in a public once and just kinda talked loudly over people and tried to control the conversation

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first impressions... bad

static flax
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Some are like that. They have to entertain a crowd after all and it can be difficult to figure out what to do in a given moment

cedar rose
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i get that, i just see that the vrchat that content creators play is different from the vrchat i play. doesn't mix well

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i guess that can also be said about a lot of people. everone comes to the game for different reasons

static flax
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Oh totally. I'm sure those creators would do well trying different styles then lolathon#462

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But saddly, the streamer image was made when thats what streamers did

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I remember hanging around bonfire and all he did was shout and make obnoxious comments, but people at the time loved it

cedar rose
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the vrchat that's on a deeper level than "funny moments compilation" is special to me and i wish more people knew about it

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maybe i just go to the wrong worlds haha

static flax
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I feel that so much. I've moved on from it all and just run a discord where we all hang out with each other and just enjoy each others company

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I'm kinda sick of all the noise to be honest heh

cedar rose
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i do sometimes hop in loud publics to just watch sometimes if i'm bored and alone

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but that isn't the sole reason i've spent over 200 hours in two months since getting my headset

static flax
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Yeeep I feel that haha

vocal shard
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🤔

grim tusk
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My dad is typing? 🤔

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And nice you got trusted powerlines

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I don't think professor oaks dad is ever shown

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Also dad I didn't know you used discord 👀

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( for context there was a user called 'your dad' who 'was typing' but maybe they stopped now'

vocal shard
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you are advertising ?

jovial kestrel
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Direct yourself to #rules please. That's pretty clearly an advertisement.

grim tusk
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Yea and no adoptions 😤

vocal shard
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someone help me with a account creation dm me

ruby needle
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Just state your problem

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Then someone can just straight up help you. cirPrise

jovial kestrel
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You didn't read the rules.

odd blaze
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🤔

grim tusk
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Plot twist they are the cops

regal furnace
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is it just me or are there a lot of loading errors recently?

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erroer avatars, worlds not loading etc

loud lintel
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i’ve experienced a lot recently

odd blaze
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There is, when i changed av i turned into error for other until they left / came back

regal furnace
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for me some avatars from others appear as error, but when reloading their avatars, they appear as intended

vocal shard
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Anyone have a nitro code I can have?

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no

twin fractal
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I'll give one away next week

raven solstice
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Does someone knows how many hours do we hav to play to get blue name color-?

twin fractal
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someone paste it

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Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

raven solstice
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Thank you

regal furnace
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boi the game is broken today

mellow palm
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where can I change this little circle on my vrchat profile again

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its currently on "join me"

languid beacon
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In social menu

mellow palm
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oh under edit status

grim tusk
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Yeh choose orange for best results

twin fractal
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more like Adeon Responder

mellow palm
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thanks I didnt see that

languid beacon
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:p I am not a writer it is just my last name lol

mellow palm
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that moment when all of your vrchat friends are in a private world and youre too scared to annoy them with an invite request

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guess im gonna play alone then

languid beacon
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I just start my own instance of a public world and let people come to me

grim tusk
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Dangerous game Yikes

mellow palm
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very dangerous

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the optimal way to chill is to have a friends+ map honestly

languid beacon
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I like meeting new people

mellow palm
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me too but sometimes I just wanna play wtih friends

jolly trout
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people are scary 😭

languid beacon
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Those are always in private lol

peak ermine
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I try to make the lowest instance number for a public black cat. Last time was instance #121

simple pike
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cogh yes

grim tusk
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people are scary 😭
Yikes

vocal shard
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i miss using pylon tower avatars

grim tusk
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GWjiangoPenguDab the good old days

languid beacon
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I miss the hub with apples you could pick off trees and throw at people

distant pivot
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hello

mellow palm
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the most fun I had in vrchat so far was when I was drunk I think

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sadly I cant remember much from that night hah

distant pivot
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whenever i try to login through steam and add the date of birth and then continue it say please fill the data and when i make a vrchat account i dont get an email

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can someone help?

modern harbor
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whenever i try to login through steam and add the birth
🤔 vrcThinking 🤔

twin fractal
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lost me there too

distant pivot
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LMAO

mellow palm
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I never had that happen to me

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odd

mental shuttle
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so guys, what's up with this latest big update? 😓 I'm really glad the head view stays the same now and calibration for FBT is better. but several things got worse for me and it's not a worthy exchange. it's really sad because VRC is so much to do with connecting with others, and now the visual interactions are out of sync in position. and the fact that you wanna feel like your avatar is your body. horrible to experience. I thought this was the same for everyone (with at least FBT), several of my friends have the same problems but I really havent been on much lately or done much testing. did some though but will try more

  1. hands go in to an animation and move when you walk even if your hands are still
  2. my hands/head doesnt line up with other people's hands/heads
  3. moving my body up and down stretches my body, like head/shoulder/hip moves independently

1 and 2 are only seen by yourself and not other people. this is at least better than what it could have been, but then another problem appears where it'll look different when recording yourself compared to others. what's even more concerning is that I had an exchange with Tupper on Twitter and seemed he wasn't aware of this. I was assuming it was known and being worked on already. and he said there's no change to tracking, but then how is FBT better and these problems possible, some bug just some people have? doesnt everyone experience this and does anyone know of anything we can do to make it better? 🙁

I got Oculus Rift with Kinect. a friend suggested that the HDM and controllers also matters in how these things appear

vestal imp
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this update fucked things up a little bit, they are fixing it hopefully

languid beacon
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All of that stuff is optional if you want hands that always track there are options for that when you make the avatar. It’s up to the avatar maker to decide how it works

mental shuttle
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he has done a bit of testing but apparently doesnt experience all the things I do. I'll try to make a simple video demonstrating all fo it

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ok, it was never there before but is that an option in Unity?

languid beacon
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Yes the new SDK3

mental shuttle
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also are you sure all of it is optional? how can the syncing with people be?

languid beacon
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VRC Animator Tracking Control can turn different body parts form tracking to animation at any time

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Everything in Avatar SDK3 is network synced.

mental shuttle
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I have not yet looked in to the new SDK, thanks

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what do u mean? I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to these technical things

languid beacon
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Then you’ll probably have a lot of stuff to read and learn. It took me a bit but it’s all customizable.

mental shuttle
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Im finding it hard to believe that it's a setting that will let people sync up but maybe that's what Tupper is doing and then assumes I've tried... odd option though, why would anyone ever want to be out of place in space with everyone?

languid beacon
mental shuttle
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Im really worried about this, because it's such a big part of VRC and VRC is so important to me 😓 I care very much for these basic things to work, I dont often complain but this is horrible to experience. I wanna help/get help as much as I can

languid beacon
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Sounds like you’ll have a lot of motivation to learn the new stuff!

mental shuttle
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well I would only wanna learn things I need to work on. I have learned a lot of Blender stuff, though forgotten a lot now. if there's something I can do then I'll do it but not sure that's the case with all of it

languid beacon
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SDK3 has reduced reliance on blender

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You’ll still need it for optimization but for setting up things like eyes mouths and blinking not so much

mental shuttle
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I see. but using Blender for that is still not a problem is it?

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I wanna do as much as possible in Blender, I've done many many edits there

languid beacon
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Better to just do it in unity now. Stuff like cats eye tracking is no longer needed

mental shuttle
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oh... 😓 that's worrying. I fear more things will break when I get to upload again

languid beacon
#

But if you want to do it the old way you can keep using SDK2, at least for a little while

mental shuttle
#

"Use this if you are creating:
— New VRChat avatars powered by Avatars 3.0"
what does this mean?

languid beacon
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Avatar 3.0 is avatars made with SDK3

mental shuttle
#

oh wait I get it. but...

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does this mean... I have to start my project from scratch in Unity in order to use SDK3?

languid beacon
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Yes

solid flint
#

hey what if you dont get the confirmation email

mental shuttle
#

oh... um... nooo ooo...oo!

languid beacon
#

For signing up? @solid flint

solid flint
#

yes

mental shuttle
#

omb... how is that spam? 😓

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cant express myself orz

languid beacon
#

Give it like 20 minutes.. check spam too

mental shuttle
#

I dont know what the last part of that sentence means

languid beacon
#

It was directed at Cold

mental shuttle
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ok

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but Adeon, why do u think there is an option in Unity to make people be synced up?

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do u know the problem Im describing?

vocal shard
#

?

mental shuttle
#

I made a big post a bit above Svel

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and Adeon said you can solve these things with settings in Unity. Tupper didnt mention this but maybe he assumed I already were using them...

languid beacon
#

I believe you are talking about your hands not moving with you during certain animations. If you are talking about something else it’s possible I don’t understand the issue.

mental shuttle
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I wrote the 3 issues, u said all of them could be solved...

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is that now not true or not? Im confused and my newfound hope is... fading

onyx laurel
#

I'm late to the conversation, What Kinect are you using and also you could try the Launch options for VRChat, --legacy-fbt-calibrate

mental shuttle
#

using XB One's. I've never done that but what does it do? I suspect it has nothing to do with that

languid beacon
#

They actually mentioned they liked the newer calibration.

mental shuttle
#

me? (Im a guy btw)

languid beacon
#

Yes you

mental shuttle
#

yeah it's great

languid beacon
#

I find it more accurate myself too

onyx laurel
#

I wouldn't know about kinects setups, as i said you can go the launch options for VRC on steam and put --legacy-fbt-calibrate

mental shuttle
#

I'll try anything but I dont think it has to do with that

languid beacon
#

That activates the older calibration mode where you had to rotate and stand inside your avatar.

mental shuttle
#

Adeon, will you answer me?

languid beacon
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I don’t think that’s related

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I already did

onyx laurel
#

can't hurt to try it tbh

mental shuttle
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no u didnt

languid beacon
#

Good luck with all this I’m out lol

mental shuttle
#

"I wrote the 3 issues, u said all of them could be solved...
is that now not true or not? Im confused and my newfound hope is... fading"

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no! you gave me hope and now I dont know if you were confusing yourself or what

onyx laurel
mental shuttle
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@languid beacon you said all of those issues could be fixed in Unity and then said something contradicting... T_T

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it's a bigger issue than that but... I'll try...

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do you not experience these things? because of Adeon I'm even more confused @onyx laurel

onyx laurel
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I stated earlier "I wouldn't know about kinects setups"

mental shuttle
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it's not exclusively linked to Kinect for sure

onyx laurel
#

all I know is they have weird issues with tracking

mental shuttle
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it was my first thought but my friends have the same problems and they have all different setups

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these are big and new since the big update

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do you have any of the ones I described?

vocal shard
#

Did they make it so your display names cant use special characters anymore? They instantly disappear in my name, but when I do the confirm name it shows them?

languid beacon
#

I think specific characters have never worked.

vocal shard
#

✩☽ i was trying to use these but they're not working, but I've seen other people with them in there user ? it's doing this with all the special characters i've used

rancid talon
vocal shard
#

Anyone have a nitro code I can have please ? Mine ruins out today

rancid talon
#

It seems to happen on non-index controller setups

languid beacon
#

Wow a neck issue is related to controller type ?!

mental shuttle
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Oh hey Kung. I was suggested that it has to do with that yes.

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Adeon, you're back. ._.

rancid talon
#

Yeah it seems to be controller type, I use OG Vive but with index controllers. It seems consistent that people on OG Vive with Vive controllers have the issue

mental shuttle
#

For me it's not just the neck. Tupper tested with a friend and his friend had the neck stretch. The stretching is the least problematic out of these issues for me. While I dont want to be stretched I'd prefer it if everyone saw it.

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I have friends with Index, havent asked them yet. I havent been on very much so that's why Im so late to this. But very weird how a controller can make your avatar stretch. 😓

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The out of sync is way worse of an issue though.

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they took one step forward and two back with the update...

rancid talon
mental shuttle
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I only comprehend 50% of this orz

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too much technical talk so I dont know what Im reading

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but thanks

rancid talon
#

The "Upright" parameter in the animator changes your base layer between different idle states, which has an influence on pose, changing from standing to crouching

mental shuttle
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the animator, is that in Unity?

rancid talon
#

if you switch to the crouching animation but that's not synced, then there will be some amount of desync between the local and remote poses

mental shuttle
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when u say crouching animation do you mean actually crouching?

rancid talon
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In unity is where you'd configure it, but it's in the default animator, the locomotion layer

mental shuttle
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I dont use SDK3 yet so maybe that's why Im confused, not that I do much in Unity anyway

rancid talon
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"Upright" might be used in the default av2 animator as well

vocal shard
#

Hey guys, my emote menu isn't opening when I press on my thumbstick. IS there something new i need to do

mental shuttle
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doesnt ring a bell at all 😓 no need to try and explain it

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there are bindings now in VRC

vocal shard
#

oh finally?

rancid talon
#

(pose desync) it's something you could maybe bypass with a custom locomotion layer in av3, but if you're using av2 it's up to them to fix the parameter syncing

languid beacon
#

Wait how would you bypass it exactly this is interesting

mental shuttle
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Adeon, seems you spoke too much without knowledge before

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I got good news from Tupper

languid beacon
#

You are very hard to help, Nekotaku. Feels like some kind of language barrier

vocal shard
#

Does anybody knows how to fix the "I can't hear anyone" problem?

I litteraly can't hear anyone, and sometimes they all freeze.

mental shuttle
#

noo Adeon

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I posed my issues, you said all of them can be fixed in settings in Unity, then it turns out it's not the case

languid beacon
#

Congratulates on solving your issue

mental shuttle
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so you misspoke, but I wont pester you over it, I was just getting hopeful by your words and then confused

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who, me? it's not fixed

languid beacon
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@rancid talon Kung, how do you bypass pose desync with locomotion in SDK3? I’ve known it is possible but I haven’t personally tried it out.

vocal shard
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Can anybody help me pls?

languid beacon
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From my understanding everything in the locomotion layer plays over network Ik

mental shuttle
languid beacon
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Tupper gave you the same answer I did lol

mental shuttle
#

Good news except for that third one of course still being very weird

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yes partly. 1/3

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but now I feel relived

next ore
#

I’m looking for vrchat friends. Add me and pm me on discord!

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Let me know if this is the wrong sub

hollow kiln
#

Eee, likewise! If anyone wants to explore sometime, add me on VRchat: almostcompetent

glacial arrow
#

Howdy gamers

rancid talon
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@languid beacon If the desync is caused by lack of "Upright" parameter syncing, the only place that's used is for determining which idle pose to play in the locomotion layer. So you'd make a custom locomotion layer that doesn't depend on that parameter. This would only address the issue due to lack of syncing default parameters, it wouldn't fix anything due to local neck/torso stretching

sage pewter
#

I think someone just blocked me

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For having big breasts and black lipstick?

#

Oh, no. It's because I have the eye movement on the high end of "confident" and on the far end of "calm"

steel ingot
#

Is something wrong with vrchat since last update? Even opening menus and staying at home and opening mirrors spikes my game and lags alot, not actual fps lag, the game freezes and stutters alot. I'm on 32 gb ram , rtx 2080 , optimized process for vrchat etc.

sage pewter
#

Same here, except for the video card

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My specs are above minimum though

#

Sometimes is just stops loading a world, too

rancid talon
#

I've seen people report jittery behavior when playing on the Steam version while using oculus devices

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which goes away when they play the oculus version of vrc

coral crater
#

So. Real curious here. When I'm playing vrchat I've gotta restart it every 1-2 hours or so from crashing on average. I accidentally forgot to close the game when I went to bed last night, and I've been afking in a public lobby for a solid 20 hours without any issues. Tf?

languid beacon
#

I never crash in VRC

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I think it highly depends on who you are hanging out with

coral crater
#

only shows avatar, avatar shaders, and voice
Ok

vocal shard
#

Yeah I haven't been crashed in a long time. Have had moments of hitching though when visiting publics

mossy coral
#

how do you get a server verified as a community server?

vocal shard
#

Normally you would send in an application to get your server added to the community list, but the person who was managing that recently stepped down. So that's on hold right now

coral crater
#

Vrchat likes to completely eat up my gpu.

Tensorflow? ✅
Training gans? ✅
Hosting a web server for deepdream? ✅
Vrchat? vrcStop

mossy coral
#

okay, im with the SCP foundation of VRchat and we've been trying for a good while now.

coral crater
#

Yaknow, no one in the scp foundation server has ever explained to me how I'm supposed to start getting into it lol

mossy coral
#

define "getting into it"

coral crater
#

I'm in the server
I've got my ranks
Now what

mossy coral
#

well tomorrow at 10 pm utc there will be an orientation/training event, in order to rank up you Must attend one of those and then a test (on Sundays at the same time)

coral crater
#

Cool, can't. Maybe I should just leave lol

#

Actually we could always take this to that server instead of flooding the vrchat one

mossy coral
#

well im sure that we can get someone could host one at a different time

#

good call

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@coral crater

languid beacon
#

only shows avatar, avatar shaders, and voice
Ok
@coral crater I don't use safety settings at all though. I don't pref block or limit dynamic bones, either. As nature intended. Still don't crash. 2070 super if it matters, but I don't think it's related to my GPU.. I think it's just which world you're in. vrcVPoorThinking

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Either someone comes along and intentionally crashes you, or they don't. Lol.

heady salmon
#

So someone is 'intentionally crashing' some folk every hour or every 10th world loading screen or so? :v

coral crater
#

I can guarantee it's not someone crashing me, haven't even seen a crasher in ages on my end. And it's not the worlds, because it's regardless of what world I'm in and even happening in world's I've used since I started

vocal shard
#

i barely can stay on longer than 30min most times other wise i crash freeze or stuck on 0.00 and got to force it closed

#

95% of time just wander the worlds alone its a crazy world out there

mental sky
#

I was in VrChat few weeks ago and I liked this kon avatar, it was the one with LEGO and a little companion that would say Hi every time you entered a room but ever since then this avatar has been deleted or not support anymore and would like to know why? This the world I got it from but disappeared https://en.vrcw.net/world/detail/wrld_0d830e16-a398-42cb-874c-b109f3176827 but did find the companion as main avatar in this world https://en.vrcw.net/world/detail/wrld_388cb446-8aea-41c7-84a4-4ed27ffdce17
Thanks and what this new policy is as well

devout island
#

Guy deleted the world so avatar is gone too

vocal shard
#

lots of that going on these days.. im always looking for new avatars everyday as they always keep vanishing kinda just get use to it without questioning it

vocal valve
#

Is there a way to make VR chat go completely fullscreen?

vocal shard
#

i wish it did or have some windowed full screen option though full may help with performance some... some games i have run worse in window mode/full window modes than in full

heady salmon
#

I did wonder why it opened in windowed trying to be full-window-but-not, if that makes sense.

vocal valve
#

It does technically have windowed fullscreen if you move your cursor out and click the maximize button. It just doesn't have "Fullscreen"

minor salmon
#

hey

vocal shard
#

@vocal valve press and hold shift when the game is launching and ittl open up gfx options, uncheck the windowed button and itll go fs

vocal valve
#

Thank you @vocal shard !

vocal shard
#

interesting never knew that one

#

nice much better

minor salmon
#

how r u guys

uneven rock
#

Anyone know any fun social minigames I should try out? I'm tired of bouncing between freeze tag and various games of murder and most of the Udon category are basically single player sandboxes like robot arms or grapple guns

thick elbow
#

@uneven rock Maybe a escape room?

uncut trail
#

So is it true you need to have license to play music on twitch now ?

ruby needle
#

That's more a question for random caht

#

And depending on local place it's quite normal to need a license to disctribute music.

#

On every place technically, cus copyright and music licensing isn't new and platform bound.

uncut trail
#

No this involves people streaming VRchat

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like VRChat DJ's

ruby needle
#

I mean, still more a Twitch thing but especialy as a DJ you will need a license in a lot of countries

#

at least for it to be legal.

uncut trail
#

Ah okay

ruby needle
#

Btw this is nothing new, there has been some cases recently that brought a big upror, but it's been like that for ages.

marsh stump
#

wth I'm getting sick and tired of joining a lobby and out of nowhere the screen goes black and rejoins some random instance

ruby needle
#

Thats either connectivity issues, or the lobby was full and you dropped to a random public as a result.

marsh stump
#

Lobby was def not full, was 16 out of 30

#

Could be connection because spectrum

hearty pine
#

❤️

ruby spoke
#

ramtruckguy thats been happening to me too

#

and i also have spectrum

marsh stump
#

I went through the trouble of running ethernet upstairs and installing a switch but because of that every device upstairs uses ethernet except for the amazon echo

#

is nice beuase it's less latency

ruby spoke
#

has internet been cutting out and reconnecting a bunch around this time?

#

mine has

marsh stump
#

It's been stable for a while but a few weeks ago the internet went down every day at exactly 3:20 pm

#

and came back at 4 then went down and back up every 20 or so minutes

#

then it goes back to normal around 8

#

thank god I don't work from home

ruby spoke
#

for me, every night around midnight my internet cuts out every 5 minutes then reconnects after 30 ish seconds until like 6am

marsh stump
#

a while back (and this is why i installed ethernet upstairs) around 10 or so my internet would have real high latency because everyone around would be using internet and the 2.4 band was all clogged up

#

And my pc is circa 2015 and doesn't have 5g

ruby spoke
#

oof

#

i just use ethernet all the time. my pc doesent have wifi

marsh stump
#

Really the only stock parts in my pc are the cpu and motherboard, everything else is new

ruby spoke
#

most of my computer is from 2013 except the ssd and gpu

marsh stump
#

I have a 2011 dell latitude sitting in my closet

#

the battery is shot but if you just do day to day browsing and everything, it does it very well

sage pewter
#

This lag is ridiculous

sonic lodge
#

are there any like good vrchat horror maps besides the devouring that I can play with friends

white lodge
#

Wait y is a photo squared but the lenses are circle

#

👀

hollow sluice
#

Because a square monitor is easier to manufacture than a circle one

white lodge
#

O

#

Thanks I was wondering g

vocal shard
#

And the photo sensor is square

white lodge
#

👀

#

The more yk

vocal shard
#

The lense is a circle, but the actual sensor that reads the incoming light is square. And on old cameras, the lense was a circle as well, but the active area of the film that received the light was squares as well. (Rectangle actually)

white lodge
#

Wtf my mind can’t process

#

Bruh

vocal shard
#

hi

last rapids
#

imagine trying to rotate a square lens

heady salmon
#

be there or be square

vocal shard
#

anyone know were i can get a walking animation for unity

vocal shard
#

Hiii

worn jackal
#

i just linked my steam acc to vrchat, and everything transferred except for my recent and favorite worlds, is that gonna fix or nah?

vocal shard
#

no

#

it can take up to one hour to sync everything up
after that it's probably dead

worn jackal
#

i just linked like around 10 mins ago

vocal shard
#

then wait

worn jackal
#

lmao amazing, i just got made into a new user, that's hot

worn jackal
#

colliders?

vocal shard
#

Yes, that is planned this year

#

It's now possible for a future update due to the new avatars sdk

heady salmon
#

as in direct physical-esque touching?

#

ah yeah lemme hug people

regal furnace
#

interacting like dynamic bones touching or like hands dont clip through everything anymore?

hollow sluice
#

thats way easier said than done lol

vocal shard
#

I meant interacting with dynamic bones. But we don't really know the extent of what's coming. The devs just teased a new physics system

hollow sluice
#

interacting with dynamic bones is doable

#

interacting with their entire bodys is next to impossible.

vocal shard
#

can't wait to discover new ways of crashing people with that system

hollow sluice
#

I mean it is possible to implement in to the game

#

but if you want to"slap" someone

#

that wouldnt really be possible

#

I dont care if it was sarcasm, its irrelevant to what you said

regal furnace
#

i would rather prefer hands colliding with the environment than interacting with other dynamic bones

hollow sluice
#

its next to impossible to implement interaction with peoples entire bodies, not just dynamic parts. It would be insanely intensive to process and also could very well be used maliciously

#

I am just informing you, I dont think its "deep" But you stated two different actions.

regal furnace
#

at least interacting with the world

hollow sluice
#

same goes for environments @regal furnace

regal furnace
#

it doesnt need to be boneworks level of interacting

#

it would just be cool to not clip through everything you touch

hollow sluice
#

okay lol. Its actually called using your brain, what I talked about was how computers work, it wasnt vrchat specific at all.

vocal shard
#

what's up with the salt

hollow sluice
#

the not clipping would add a lot of collision checks in to the game thus making it much more laggy, it would also need to be manually implemented in to every avatar as every body is a different therefor you cant just design a one size fits all solution

vocal shard
#

depend on how it's implemented

#

Lavender got some basic collision between avatars, it's not that bad in term of performance

hollow sluice
#

what would be your suggestion?

#

They want half life alyx style collision of your hands with the world

regal furnace
#

box colliders for your fingers and one for your palm

vocal shard
#

source ?

hollow sluice
#

maybe not as detailed but the idea is the same,

#

source 2 vrcSmooSmart

upbeat dove
#

hello i`m newbie

#

:3

hollow sluice
#

hello newbie

#

I am dad

hallow temple
#

Vrchat on vr = 🆗️
Vrchat on pc =🆒️

jolly trout
grim tusk
#

Boomer on vr = OKBOOMER

vocal shard
#

is anyone having really slow loading times on vrc or is it just me

#

usually it'll take like 10 seconds but now it's like 5 minutes

vocal shard
#

like i don't get why everything in my vrchat is so slow when my internet is just fine

velvet flint
#

Hi i want English swordmaster,i'm going to watch your conversations and study! Thank you bros

raven venture
#

How do you change your profile picture? And is it a green tag+ feature?

twin fractal
#

huh?

broken plover
#

It uses the avatar Thumbnail

raven venture
#

Some people have custom ones though

#

OH!

broken plover
#

Yeah they uploaded that as the avatar Thumbnail

raven venture
#

The avatar itself... got it!

#

I have two Avatars on the way.

#

One of the perks of being a brony is an immensely talented and super awesome fan base to help you with cool stuff like that.

hasty stratus
#

DeAtH

twin fractal
#

if youre half brony you can get all the benefits while also only being half brony vrcSunglasses

gusty dust
#

avatars arent loading, anyone else with the same problem?

regal furnace
#

if you change world now, you are gonna get stuck at 0.00B/ till you restart the game

gusty dust
#

lol

regal furnace
#

the game is having some strokes recently

gusty dust
#

good timing

#

sigh

regal furnace
#

had these issues yesterday already

signal gazelle
#

RTX 3080 comes out and I'm buying it

#

Even if my power supply is 100w below the recommended

#

I believe it's that way due to Intel's i9-10900K, which is a power hog

vocal shard
#

Could anyone recommend avatars good for dancing? I've got my full body tracking yesterday but the avatars that I use are quite janky

shut jewel
#

Perhaps you should buy a new power supply too, Smash.

#

I'm not sure what the ramifications of having an insufficient power supply are, but I assume in the worst case the card won't function at all, and in the best it will reduce performance

vocal shard
#

if your psu is not enough then your PC simply wont turn on

#

It most likely will just without the GPU

signal gazelle
#

I have a 650W PSU. My case can barely fit the 3080 founders edition but I'm thinking of buying a new mini ITX case

#

My platform is Ryzen, so it should be more efficient than intel

broken plover
#

I think it will turn on, but if it requires more power than the psu can supply it will just shut off or something. I haven't used a system with a psu that can provide less power than all the parts need so I don't have any experience

signal gazelle
#

Efficiency rating matter in this case too

regal furnace
#

im gonna upgrade PSU. My 500W wouldnt take the 3080 probably

shut jewel
#

These cards are the size of cruise ships, can they fit into a mini case at all? They seem designed to use all of the available space in a standard case.

broken plover
#

I think linus built a power efficent pc where he like underclocked or undervolted the parts to be as efficent as possible and I think it was a 2080ti with just a 500W psu or something

regal furnace
#

2080ti doesnt use as much power as a 3080, doesnt it?

#

320W for a 3080 alone

broken plover
#

yeah but I was making a point. Because the recommended amount for a psu isnt 500W for a 2080ti system

signal gazelle
#

The 3070 uses 30w less than the 2080 Ti, but since I have a 650W, I should be fine

regal furnace
#

ill wait for the custom cards anyway

vocal shard
#

Chieftec A-135 is a good choice performance\price wise if you are looking for 850W

shut jewel
#

You can consider the 3070 as well, save quite a few bucks, get similar performance on a card that is designed to be replaced in a few years, plus it only requires 650W instead of 750.

signal gazelle
#

Their recommendation is based on a system configured with a i9-10900K

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@shut jewel I care about blender renders, so I want the 3080 instead of the 3070

vocal shard
#

get 750 at least if you want to use a 3070/3080 with an intel i9-10900k

signal gazelle
#

I am gonna use a ryzen 7 2700x, and will upgrade to a 3900x

vocal shard
#

@vocal shard choose a better motherboard

#

no

#

Gigabyte are not super reliable when it comes to heat

#

I've used 3 different gigabyte mobo and never had any issues with those

#

and since you are planning to use your system for rendering id be concerned about that

#

oh if switching motherboards more frequently than 1 every 3-5 years that yeah it wouldn't matter much

#

I can't find any issue about overheating on that mobo

#

.

#

same jamie

shut jewel
#

Aside for my personal superficial preference and gut feeling, I tend to judge a product's quality by the percentage of 5-star reviews. Probably not a precise measurement but it does the job well enough. Every product I've ever seen has a few 1-star reviews saying it's broken and useless. If something does have a significant problem it'll emerge even in favorable reviews

green flame
#

Hello!

pseudo basalt
#

Not necessarily, it's more like the low rated reviews have the most important information

#

Because they're low rated for a reason

#

If it's a 1 star with "it sucks!!" then obviously it's a useless review

shut jewel
#

Half of them are complaining about shipment problems

steady maple
#

3080 insta buy

#

day 1

vocal shard
#

Nice

steady maple
#

It's funny, VR has essentially wound back the clock 5 years when it comes to visual fidelity in games. Bleeding edge hardware isn't cutting it anymore for high graphics in VR. I'm sure FS2020 in VR will bring even the 3090 to it's knees.

midnight nacelle
#

I finally got the known user rank! After all these (1) years.... I finally have it

raw pine
#

Congrats, hope u have a nice day with that rank fragment!

tall stag
#

Hello?

regal furnace
#

ello

tall stag
#

yo

#

wannna see a avatar i just made

#

its a jojo skin

regal furnace
#

yea, why not

tall stag
regal furnace
#

that link looks weird

tall stag
#

How

brazen mirage
#

It's funny, VR has essentially wound back the clock 5 years when it comes to visual fidelity in games. Bleeding edge hardware isn't cutting it anymore for high graphics in VR. I'm sure FS2020 in VR will bring even the 3090 to it's knees.
@steady maple just buy two 3090's
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tall stag
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its just a avatar

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its a op file

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like a line of code

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u there?

regal furnace
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yea

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im here, you should put the image on some image hoster though

mellow palm
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shitty unoptimized anime neko avatars

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alow us to introduce ourselves

tall stag
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what do u mean

regal furnace
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use imgur or something for images

tall stag
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oh ok thatnks

regal furnace
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not some weird link thats not even a valid url

tall stag
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its a line of code

grim tusk
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53

tall stag
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its not a normal vr chat avatar

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im using a personal one

mellow palm
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what do u mean

have you never seen them?

tall stag
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when im done i will copy and paste the code over

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i now know what he means

regal furnace
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just post the URL of the image

tall stag
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ok

regal furnace
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its not even hard or anything

tall stag
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i was a changable link

regal furnace
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i dont need your sourcecode for something i have no idea of

tall stag
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meaning u could move it

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ok damn

regal furnace
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i could share my sourcecode for an image modifyer i wrote once too, and no one would understand anything since my code is absolutely garbage

tall stag
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lol

placid juniper
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e

loud lintel
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e

midnight nacelle
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i clicked on the link and it just blacked out my screen until it restarted oof

vocal shard
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bag

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put the money in the bag

twin fractal
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E_bag17 are you a girl?

languid beacon
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pfp of a dude but still ask just in case

twin fractal
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just trying to fit in to the server PogEYES

languid beacon
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Oh ok. How do I get upload

twin fractal
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lol

broken plover
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where can I fidn cool skin with epic animation

twin fractal
#

can I ask a question?

inland knot
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Adeon Writer are you girl I look for friends on vrchat I am new are you singel

languid beacon
inland knot
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Adeon Writer are you avatar maker do you have avatar I am new

broken plover
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🅱️uper fix update i crash all time grr >:(

inland knot
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Shh nico they will put on Slowmode again

languid beacon
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Does anyone want to watch me sleep in vr here’s my twitch

inland knot
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pulls out credit card

languid beacon
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How do people move their hands

broken plover
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wHeN vRcHaT fOr Ps4!?

finite steppe
#

If you tried to run VRChat on a PS4, the fans would be spinning so fast the console would literally take flight.

regal furnace
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Modern Warfare menu wants to talk

vocal shard
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am i supposed to lose frames when loading avatars?

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sure

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uh idk

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i dont really roleplay

regal furnace
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@vocal shard yea, framedrops when loading avatars is normal

vocal shard
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ok good i keep getting scared my pc has flaws

regal furnace
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7600k and 1070ti and get framedrops/lagspikes too

vocal shard
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i dont have those and i still get low frames loading avatars

fading flower
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there are help channels here, and a heft amount of tutorials

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i presume you are talking about 3.0

ruby oar
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Hi everyone. I've got a question. How can I share music without a microphone?

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I've only got my headset mic but can't share that way

shut jewel
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When using FBT, is it possible to have my avatar still sit in chairs or use other similar functions (thus disabling the belt/feet tracking for the duration)?

vocal shard
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@ruby oar you can try and find a soundboard and download the music

unique mauve
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@shut jewel No. Tracking is always on when using FBT. You will be locked in the seat, but sitting poses will not activate when FBT tracking is active.

vocal shard
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hi how to trow stringth whit avatar spiderman at PC

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:I

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no problem

ruby oar
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@ruby oar you can try and find a soundboard and download the music
@vocal shard Thank you, i'll try that

ancient axle
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a

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b

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c

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d

twin fractal
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or don't

minor salmon
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im am sad dm me

gritty jacinth
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I can't see my recent world's I been in wtf

hoary dagger
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Hey

vocal shard
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Just ordered a quest, coming to my house on the 15th anyone wanna add me show me around ?

hoary dagger
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Sure I got u

vocal shard
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Yeah when I get my quest I'm selling my PSVR

fair hill
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@covert chasm Sorry for the ping, is it possible to have the "Report > Avatar > Stolen" flag for the worlds too? And not only related to users

ruby needle
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You can put in feature requests on canny and similar, there is no need to ping and admin for that

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§23. Do not ping Admins or VRChat Team for non-emergency reasons or you may be kicked from the server.

fair hill
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Oh, shii, sorry

languid beacon
warm hornet
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anyone use a rift s with an ipd of 54 to 55 i don't know if i just need to get used to it its my first vr headset but my eyes do seem to get tired

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I would take it back if i could get a quest or 399 not used or people selling the for 600 heh

native plank
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Hi

vocal shard
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@warm hornet that's definitely beyond what I would recommend. My ipd is 59 and I wouldn't recommend the rift s for lower than 58.

The new quest is supposed to be coming soon (announced this month) starting at $299

native plank
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I’m new here ☺️

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I’m quite most the time cause I’m shy 😅

raw pine
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Welcome moon, you'll have a lovely time here

native plank
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I hope so, I haven’t been in a group in so long the last group I was in they were cry babies , always getting mad at me cause supposedly my jokes were pointed towards them when really I’m just having some fun, I like to make people laugh not make them cry 😅

raw pine
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yh those type are people are annoying

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but how's Vrchat for u moon?

native plank
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Yeah , that’s why I’m glad I was kicked out of it I wanted to get out of there and I hope I don’t sound weird but .... please don’t judge me but I don’t have vrchat or a headset 😅

raw pine
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Let me guess u don't have a PC?

native plank
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I do I just don’t use it much

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I’m busy now a days with stuff in real life I don’t go on a computer much 😅

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plus it’s to much money to get a headset anyways , rather save it for something good u know ☺️

raw pine
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Understandable hope u have a lovely week and day and also hope one day u can play vrchat!

native plank
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But u all seem like nice people ☺️ anyhow

fierce oriole
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How do I search for an avatar

merry parrot
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Woo I just got Trusted User!

ebon hazel
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Oh they left, welp

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But congrats !

merry parrot
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Been playing since mid-June, about 500 hours, uploaded 1 world and 9 avatars, throw it to the guessing game stats pile

vocal shard
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help i cant stop spinning

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esfsfdegsef

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sorry my cat walked on my keyboard

vestal imp
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idiásj´fiojgafae

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you'll never know who typed that

modern harbor
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🤔

lean lance
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does anyone play the awakening? me and a friend are trying but we need more than two people

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like i think we need help. my ingame tag is kazatimiru, if u wanna join us shoot me a friend request (i’ll accept immediately) then join our game

sharp arrow
#

is there anyway i can speak to a staff member

vocal shard
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So im on vrc sdk 2 and I need help how do I add multiple songs to my world

onyx laurel
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wym?

sharp arrow
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@placid umbra hello sorry in advance if your busy, i just had a couple questions

ruby needle
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@sharp arrow §23. Do not ping Admins or VRChat Team for non-emergency reasons or you may be kicked from the server.

lapis rain
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bad doggy! angry face

sharp arrow
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nevermind then

tulip owl
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Is the head glitch getting fixed or is there a fix we can do in unity?

mental shuttle
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@tulip owl what's the head glitch?

blazing adder
#

Man I wish avatars were searchable by tags or title like worlds. Would make it so much easier to find specific ones instead of going on a hour long journey to find it.

foggy edge
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It's all about those nice keywords.

vocal shard
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Avatars aren't meant to be searched. The way things are set up, you're supposed to visit world's, avatars are just people's personal creations that they allow others to borrow

tulip owl
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@mental shuttle
I think it’s mainly because before the head sometimes glitches around and the headset view didn’t line up with the avatars head so the new system also attaches the head to the headset like for example the foot is attached to the tracker so it doesn’t offset itself

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So is any avatat with FBT done in blender just useless now in vr?

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Because almost all of my avatars that have been bought have a weird neck problem that glithces in VR.

mental shuttle
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I'm not familiar with what you're talking about

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wth with those emoji?

vocal shard
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We've been told for the last year not to use the FBT "fix" in blender because it would break in a future update

mental shuttle
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yeah I was gonna say

vocal shard
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That's why CATs removed it as a default option a long time ago

mental shuttle
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might be that "fix" that is ruining it for you

lean lance
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does anyone wanna play with me and my friend

tulip owl
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Hmmmm, okay thank you

lean lance
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seriously we need a third person

jolly trout
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I am not a person 😔

foggy edge
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Don't even know what you are playing. @lean lance

lean lance
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the awakening

foggy edge
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You don't need 3, go play it.

lean lance
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ehhhh but i lowkey want a third

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also we need help in the sewer thing??

vocal shard
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what happened to the studio Ghibli world ??

ruby burrow
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I still wonder what other peoples rigs look like that have this or other issues.
Because I've got two years worth of avatars now, some that I made without any fixes, some with neck and hip, others with only one of them, and newer ones made according to current specifications. None of my avatars have ever had these issues, and even the older ones work fine with the new IK setup and FBT calibration.
I keep expecting stuff to be broken after patches due to hearing about complaints, but somehow for me it's always been fine. So what's the distinction? ._.

lean lance
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has anyone finished the awakening?? are there different emblems??

west yoke
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The awakening?

ruby burrow
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There's just always been so much superstition regarding models in this game, along with bad habits and flawed solutions passed down from person to person.

rustic vault
#

anyone else lagging horribly?

calm steppe
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no

heady salmon
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in any multiplayer game, there's always bound to be someone somewhere lagging.

abstract verge
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idk how to get a good avatar since im new, any tips?

lean lance
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go to avatar worlds

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type avatar into worlds

abstract verge
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ok ty

lean lance
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np

abstract verge
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ohhh

lean lance
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i can recommend some

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@abstract verge

abstract verge
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yeah

thorny delta
#

anyone know why my ping only in vrc is back to being trash again when my firewall ain't blocking it

ruby needle
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where are you located and how high is the ping? (Country is enough)

thorny delta
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US east, fluctuates from my usual 100 and jumps to over 5k

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sometimes 8k

ruby needle
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Ah, yeah that's definitly some issues 😅

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Are you playing on wifi by any chance?

thorny delta
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yeah, i fixed it once by turning off my firewalls but now it's back

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i always have, these problems only started recently

ruby needle
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Your firewall shouldn't be the issue when it just spikes sometimes.

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On WiFi it's often a good idea to try restarting your router, might also be local interferance.
Else it ofc can always be hickups on the route to the servers. cirPrise

thorny delta
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see but it's constant high spikes, I've also flushed my DNS, i have gigabit internet so idk whats happening

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i restarted my router already with no help

carmine nebula
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You know

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I always wanted to ask this one question

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More than 2 accessible cores when?

ruby needle
carmine nebula
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You know, cause the game only uses 2 cores

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Since it chomps at that RAM, and is cpu heavy

ruby spoke
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that's unitys fault

twilit pecan
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i get the same with wifi

vocal shard
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I don't think it's limit to 2 cores... Although it could be more efficient. But it's the engine

covert chasm
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@carmine nebula VRChat accesses way more than two cores 🙂

carmine nebula
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I'm screenshotting that and determining if this statement is true or not

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I'll be back in 10 minutes, one sec

tight scaffold
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how come I can't take screenshots anymore?

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I play with Steam

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my problem or bug?

covert chasm
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How do you normally take screenshots? It should be F12. Depending on your bindings, might also take a steam screenshot in addition to the one stored in Pictures/VRChat.

tight scaffold
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yep F12

ruby spoke
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@carmine nebula for me it used all 4 cores and 8 threads of my cpu

tight scaffold
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Been 3 days that when I click it doesn't happen

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I could till a week ago

carmine nebula
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I'm a little unsure if these statements are true or not

ruby spoke
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somehow still stuttery tho but i think i need more cores to fix that

carmine nebula
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People with high end PCs die in worlds with users with, models that don't have a garbage amount of bones

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Well, okay not die

vocal shard
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More cores doesn't always mean better gaming performance.

ruby spoke
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im pretty sure its just the fact that most models are unoptimized

carmine nebula
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The game could afford to not eat away at that tasty ram though

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Even for 16GB, it starts digging into the CPU, too

covert chasm
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very few games properly utilize true multi-core optimizations-- DOOM is a good example of one that does

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most do not

carmine nebula
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Its hard to compare a normal game to something in VR

covert chasm
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unless you've got full control of the engine, you can't really fully optimize for maximum multi-threading

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eh, kinda sorta. they're still basically identical at the core

carmine nebula
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I say this because I played doom when I was running ddr3 ram, a 9year old intel mobo

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And an i7-2600k

ruby spoke
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yeah but other processes take up some preformance

carmine nebula
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That game still ran like a race car

covert chasm
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i played doom when i had a 486 and 8MB of ram! 😄

carmine nebula
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Tupper what's wrong with you

twilit pecan
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486 😄

covert chasm
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my age exceeds the number 30, that's what

carmine nebula
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Understandable have a good day, chief

covert chasm
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also RAM is completely directly tied to loaded assets

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afaik unity isn't super good at unloading assets unless you swap scenes (change worlds)

carmine nebula
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Also, to go at that what you said @ruby spoke That's a bit of a stretch

covert chasm
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so if you sit in a world with someone that swaps avatars every 10 seconds, you'll eventually run out of memory

carmine nebula
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No offense to VRChats rating system

covert chasm
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all of that memory is cleared if you swap worlds, though

carmine nebula
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It makes ANYTHING look unoptimized

vocal shard
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I never really dip below 40 fps in populated world's like the pug or black cat. Although I am playing on vr low graphics settings.

i7 7700 4 core 8 thread, 4ghz
B130 motherboard, 16gb ddr4

covert chasm
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i rarely drop below 30, and if i even hit 30, its because i'm in an absolutely crammed world-- but my PC is cheating a bit

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9900k@4.9, 2080, 64GB DDR4-3200

carmine nebula
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I mean personally for me, I stress tested an event in a private server that hit 60 members, with a mixture of green avatars, and a fair amount of red with some slots a bit high but I find that to be an excuse, my frames were around 30-40 give or take

ruby spoke
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i play low graphics settings normal desktop and get around 90fps average. but it stutters so much it make it almost unplayable

carmine nebula
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If you have specs that are pro gamer kind of specs and you're still dying. Being that unoptimized is agitating, especially if you use safety settings for some people

weary jungle
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VRChat mostly eats 3-4 GB of my RAM. Goes up to 16GB if I stay really long in a public world and it starts to affect my experience, especially lag. I have 32GB.

covert chasm
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60 is very high and approaches the number of people in a world where we say "hmm yeah you're pretty much gonna have problems no matter what"

twilit pecan
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you enabled 32gb in windows though yeah?

covert chasm
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and notably material slots is one of the worse things to go over VP for

carmine nebula
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VRChat swallows that RAM

covert chasm
#

avatars and worlds*

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🙃

carmine nebula
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@covert chasm I would argue and say that's not true

vocal shard
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Random stutters have been my biggest annoyance lately. But overall, performance feels more stable than a year ago. Would crawl to 18fps in populated world back then

carmine nebula
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Materials don't impact much performance for me

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Its the damn bone collision check

covert chasm
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watching FPS isn't a great way to meter performance

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sounds silly, but is true

carmine nebula
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I mean

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D'ehh, it kinda does, kinda doesn't

covert chasm
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several performance-related things will not affect your framerate until you hit a certain number

carmine nebula
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But to be fair, I've got a couple up to date models wiiiiiith

covert chasm
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VRAM, RAM

carmine nebula
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I wanna say 15-17 materials but that's because most of the work was done in unity to test a couple things

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I run a mirror where I can see everything in the mirror, not a single frame drop

covert chasm
#

material slots in particular hits tons of things-- CPU usage for draw calls, GPU usage for non-batched draw calls, memory swap for texture copy, etc etc

stone plume
#

is it usual to randomly be playing and get a disconnect message saying " Unusual client behavior " i was playing lazer tag and it popped up

carmine nebula
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All in all, I know VRChat could afford to use some optimization work on it internally

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I know for a fact it can, whether you wanna agree with that or not

covert chasm
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well of course

carmine nebula
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Having a more stricter rating system won't make it any easier

covert chasm
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you could say that to anything

carmine nebula
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Also, it wouldn't kill to have a refresh button for the UI menu

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XD

covert chasm
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manual refresh is the wrong way to think about it, we have a better solution on the way with the new UI

carmine nebula
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Is it really though? Sitting there waiting for those tabs to Fricking update is a pain

covert chasm
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until X application is hand-written in x86 assembly by carmack and torvalds fueled by red bull and vodka, it isn't fully optimized

vocal shard
carmine nebula
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say improving performance to the issues 3.0s menus been causing that was recently updated

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Is a NICE touch, so props there. Credit is due

covert chasm
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??? we didn't really do a perf pass on the action menu (other than the standard passes), it was pretty well optimized from the start

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same to the systems powering 3.0

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they're pretty low impact overall

carmine nebula
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Well whatever issues the squads been having must've been personal

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Shrug

covert chasm
#

i will note that usually what you hear about VRChat code or optimization while sitting in front of a mirror somewhere is almost always wrong, trust me-- my alts hear things that are so incorrect that I sometimes wish i would blow my cover

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i have heard thousands of vrchat rumors

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none of which have been true

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maybe one day one will be true

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until then they're pretty entertaining

deft girder
#

Someone def would have a heart attack if someone random suddenly unmuted and it was actually Tupper

covert chasm
#

every text to speech user might be me, you never know

ruby needle
#

Time to respond with "Oh hey Tupper" to every TTS users encountering in game now. 👀

covert chasm
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i never said i used TTS

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voice changers are pretty good too

thorny delta
#

Still having my ping issues but they calmed down a tiny bit. I really dunno what's going on.

ruby spoke
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so i just used rivatuner to benchmark vrchat under normal usage and got an average of 68.5 and a 1% low of 3.2

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like i said, a lot of stutter

oblique fjord
#

hi

vocal shard
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Heya

oblique fjord
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wonton here

indigo dock
#

hi

thorny delta
#

Think I fixed the ping issue, disabled IPV6, hoping it works out

ruby needle
#

Make sure to keep that in mind if you ever run into other networking issues, you dont really want to fully disable IPV6 for everything.

sand sage
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hello

simple river
#

Hi all, this is gonna sound wild but, does anyone know where I could find a Gardevoir avatar? Me and my friend have spent 2 hours looking for one with no luck. It's absolutely wild how difficult Garde is to find

untold portal
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are you on quest or pc?

simple river
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PC

vocal shard
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Fuc

untold portal
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i Think i saw one befor but i need to chek my list

vocal shard
#

Apparently you cant spam emojis

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This succs

simple river
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Thanks so much if you find a nice garde! We've just been laughing over how hard this is after going to literally every place we can possibly think of that has Pokemon avatars

untold portal
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i know the fealing hehe i spent wqeeks searching for a cat that was not lewd or over sized

simple river
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Man understandable, the one garde i did find had some odd looking human proportions to it instead of being your standard looking one

untold portal
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oof i hear that

vocal shard
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Can definitely be hard looking for a specific public avatar. Eventually makes people want to learn to make their own cirBlech

untold portal
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i wish vrchat's sight just let you use there sight for it

vocal shard
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For which?

untold portal
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both

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something like one menu for wuest avitars and one for pc

slim forge
#

anyone with an oculus headset ever have an issue where even though they were in VR their game was acting like it was in desktop? Like I cant move my hands unless im pressing a button and my mute button will automatically switch to mute when i unmute it.

vocal shard
#

Ah.. that would probably be hard to convice the creator community to accept. Just getting avatar favorites added to the game caused a lot of upset in the avatar/world creator side of the game

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@slim forge are you using steamvr, and have any custom controller bindings?

Vrchat just had an update that let you reconfigure the controllers in game, but this can cause issues if you have custom bindings in steamvr

slim forge
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No im playing through oculus software

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it started midway through a play session earlier today

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i cant find anyone with a similar issue online either. so its a little wierd

untold portal
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Ah.. that would probably be hard to convice the creator community to accept. Just getting avatar favorites added to the game caused a lot of upset in the avatar/world creator side of the game
@vocal shard i mean like avitars that people post like in the avitar wolds

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Man understandable, the one garde i did find had some odd looking human proportions to it instead of being your standard looking one
@simple river sorry i thought i had one in my list

vocal shard
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Yeah, that's what I mean.

untold portal
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why would people who post the avatars for use get upset?

vocal shard
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When avatar favorites were first being added, world creators were upset because it meant people would come to their world once to use an avatar and not return much. Where as before, we had no favorites, so avatar worlds were always populated and became like hubs

slim forge
#

Lmao i had an xbox controller upside down and plugged in on my desk! Thanks for trying to help @vocal shard

untold portal
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ooh i see

vocal shard
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Adding an avatar search would reduce world visits even more... Unless the avatar search directed people to a world... But that may require a change to how avatars work. Since they're not attached to the world

simple river
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Man darn, thanks for looking though

untold portal
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maybe the way the could is like make it so whne people make avitar hups they have to add a list which the sight could read

vocal shard
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Being able to search for an avatar, and being directed to a world could be nice. Would need to be an opt in thing though.

Who knows, we're getting a UI overhaul, and anything is possible

untold portal
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yeah i mean nything other then spending 100s of hours going from one room to another

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i mean if you are searxching for something you wont want to just hang out any ways

vocal shard
#

I guess

#

And the community does change over time

#

A lot of things we are kinda holding onto from old times, but realistically doesn't make sense now

gentle orchid
#

Yo; who can I talk to about someone who's avoiding ban?

vocal shard
gentle orchid
#

Beauty; thanks!

vocal shard
untold portal
#

yeah i get it

vocal shard
#

I feel like this game gets more problems for me with every update tbh

restive marlin
#

lol vrchat is fun and i found a cute guy so win win

vocal shard
#

is there anyone i can talk to about game problems cause i feel like i have 6 of em

hollow leaf
#

I can't sprint anymore since the new update on oculus rift since it changed the button layout... anyone know how to be able to sprint again?

broken plover
#

in vr you sprint automatically tho. You only have a sprint button in desktop mode

hollow leaf
#

oh? That's strange. I don't know why others seem to be faster than me then... In the fall guys world, I am significantly slower than others and am always last place

broken plover
#

do you sit while playing? If you sit too low it will use the crouch animation instead of the normal walking/running animation

hollow leaf
#

that may be my issue :l thank you !

viscid abyss
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anyone on?

vocal shard
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I am but only for a little but

wraith jungle
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the worlds arent loading theres no go button

honest bison
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is it just me or when ever you click on the dynamic bones menu it messes with a cam?

cosmic wind
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ya the player name GotCarrod ever on

hollow sluice
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@cosmic wind you mean GotCarrots?

cosmic wind
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ya

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i need to talk to them about a avatar

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i want to talk to them about one of there avatars i want to ask them a question

mellow palm
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there avatars?

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ohh you mean their

jolly trout
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lol

cosmic wind
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ya i want ot ask them a question my vrchat momgot her avatar from there world i want to see if the person who made the avatar can make a little kid boy verson of it

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my vrchat mom got her avatar from there world and i want ot see if they can make me a little kid boy verson of it so i can look like my vrchat mom

mellow palm
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am I the only one whos feeling like having a stroke while reading this?

slow dove
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nah just you

jolly trout
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yeah

slow dove
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oh yea i have a question too

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whats a good desktop for gaming and its cheap?

vocal shard
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define cheap

cosmic wind
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yes desktop bec gaming laptops cast more

mellow palm
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define what specs you want

slow dove
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specs?