no problem; helping how i can, mind you it might not all be accurate; but it hopefully gets you the outcome you're looking for, pinged with a photo of my current projects feet for a example. this one had no issues with FBT, no rotations, rig hacks, etc, so its probably a fine reference point.
#vrchat-general-2
high tiger
polar gulch
Does anyone know how to find a Payday 2 crew avatar
high tiger
if it's not on a site like deviant art, or some of the other local sites for models, i would not be able to guess, just make sure if you do find it; read the TOS for the avatar and usage in other games.
off to rig test my work, ping if needed and i'll get back to em when i get out of headset.
violet dew
Anyone know about a night vision shader?
Like a shader that allows you locally to see in the dark
grand wave
Another question: when I try to switch it to android, it just crashes my unity. How can I fix that?
echo wasp
So far I have not found a world where people talk maturely. All I found were cussing kids.
violet dew
Dont worry there are mature people too tikia
echo wasp
where
violet dew
U just have to look and talk to as many people to find out
echo wasp
any recommendation?
echo wasp
ok thanks. I gonna go check it out now
marsh stump
Don't know what they changed in the update, but my legs no longer cross when idle.
That's good.
sacred wigeon
Multicore threading, when?
I'm not joking, when is it happening?
World with about 40 or so people maybe more, and the game becomes unplayable for a PC like mine and I'm not even in VR
sacred wigeon
No idea, but it's not normal for a game to become unplayable with a goodish gaming PC
runic stone
my GPU is a GTX 970 4GB
sacred wigeon
Mines a GTX 1050 ti, the GB is RAM correct?
runic stone
sigh
sacred wigeon
I don't really know too much about PCs
slate verge
does the update fixes avatar 3.0 knee's thing? cuz only av3 are broken
runic stone
okay, VRChat has crashed so hard, that even quitting steam doesnt close it.
obsidian herald
Someone made good use of that Large Snake Avatar in the World Deep Blue by Fins!
sacred wigeon
I do know that an AMD FX-8300 8 core processor, GTX 1050 ti, 16 GB of ram PC shouldn't be lagging
dusk tartan
I have a rtx 2080ti and i7 9700k and the game have difficulty sometimes when there's alot of players like 30 or when the world is not optimized, I'm playing in VR, it's just the game don't worry. If you are in VR you should have at least a gtx 1070 or the game will crash often
dusk tartan
Yes, don't buy a PCVR headset if you don't have at least a 1060 or 1070 and a cpu who can make the gpu run properly, otherwise you will run into crashes and freezes
@runic stone It's normal, vrchat take up to 7-8gb of vram on my gpu
runic stone
thats half the ram in my entire system
dusk tartan
ram and vram is different
runic stone
is texture compression not used?
dusk tartan
vram is gpu memory, ram is different
runic stone
i know what they are
dusk tartan
also 4gb of ram used by vrchat is nothing, vrchat have some memory leak problem. Vrchat take 15gb of ram for me and 8gb of vram
hi
runic stone
also it crashed so hard not even windows can kill it
high fog
HELLO
dusk tartan
Disable your shaders / animation / avatar audio in your safety and hide the avatars who got too much poly in your settings
runic stone
when i try and kill it, it says either 1). Access is denied. or 2). There is no running instance of this task, when i use TASKKILL from the admin command prompt
sacred wigeon
Yeah, I've tried that, still doesn't work
dusk tartan
World with about 40 or so people maybe more, and the game becomes unplayable for a PC like mine and I'm not even in VR
@sacred wigeon It's normal
Welcome to vrchat
sacred wigeon
I mean with 25+ in a world my FPS goes to hell
runic stone
i just cant fathom what takes up so much Vram, like what is in there thats eating it up
dusk tartan
avatars / dynamic bones
runic stone
but GTAV only takes up 2-3 and it has all thoes things going on
sacred wigeon
I really can't fathom how people can play with VR in a world that has a load of people
dusk tartan
@sacred wigeon get a 3000$+ pc tower like I do, problem solved
sacred wigeon
Oh yeah let me buy 3
I lack money to do such a thing, I don't even have enough money to a VR headset
dusk tartan
Talking about vrc perf I'm not surprised about that, worlds with alot of people in it will always kill your fps, no matter what's your pc is
dusk tartan
Tried what ?
dusk tartan
Trust me it's not gonna change anything
You gonna lag more with 30 players for a total of 2 millions poly rendered vs a world with 50 millions + poly
It's just how the game is, more people mean more lag. The thing that will affect your perf by a huge amount are players dynamics bones and avatars crasher (a shit ton of particles)
runic stone
polys? here on our PS5 demo, every pixel is a poly
subtle yew
lol the advice of VRChat, Block, Mute, Kick, Or go to a different server. Yeah Right as if that can work against a Modder
vocal shard
?
dusk tartan
?
visual kayak
I wonder if VRC is gonna fix the double thumbs up bug any time soon.
safe shuttle
Does anyone know how to make a vr chat avatar?
dusk tartan
Like making from scratch ?
safe shuttle
Mhm
dusk tartan
You can creat your own model with blender or upload a premade one
mellow palm
@sacred wigeon get a 3000$+ pc tower like I do, problem solved
@dusk tartan
yeah he just has to sell one of his kidneys
sacred wigeon
Lmao
safe shuttle
Eeeeee idk how to or probably dont have the time too
mellow palm
i mean you can comission someone
safe shuttle
Looking for someone
dusk tartan
Oh yes this telegram fox sticker rofl
mellow palm
hah only true furries know the origin
Looking for someone
oh you already are looking for one to comission?
safe shuttle
Mhm
hot mesa
after the last few updates my character in desktop look like they on their tippy toes lol
dusk tartan
Alot of avatars broke
earnest swift
He's just trying to workout his calves lol
vocal shard
I'm trying to get good at rapping, started like yesterday but I found this lyrics I made or something from my last brake up and im rapping it.. I also wanna play vrc with someone so if anyone would like to play with me, just ping me or Dm me plssss
;-;;;
Anyoneeeeee plzzzz T.T
lol
The offer is still up if anyone wants
proper tendon
The last update before this one fixed the tiptoe issue. Today's update put it back in.
vocal shard
lmao
What tip toe issue?
my offer is still here so like ya, ima stop saying that cause its gonna get annoying for ppl
mellow palm
What tip toe issue?
@vocal shard
something with avatar rigging being bugged i dunno
I can only partially rehearse from stuff that i read
small spire
broken plover
"- Fixed an issue that was preventing analog trigger values being read on the Vive Wand controller" still broken on wmr :/
visual kayak
And the thumbs are still broken too- which makes sign language SUPER annoying.
dire night
Are some avatar's feet lift up and float a little off the ground for anyone else since the this last update? or is that a thing that I may have messed up in 3.0?
Do* not re
visual kayak
Well, I did notice that 3.0 allows me to float using playspace mover without FBT, which means you probably need to recalibrate your height.
visual kayak
Same, I've been having all kinds of coordination problems, I choked so hard on osu all night
broken plover
when I started vrchat a few minutes ago to see if they fixed the controller issue already I also noticed that. But then I went into the settings and saw that my height was set incorrectly. Then I set it to my irl height, did a floor fix in steam vr advanced settings and then everything worked fine and I wasnt floating anymore
visual kayak
Nice! Glad I was able to help!
They still REALLY need to fix the double thumbs up bug though. It's broken so many signs, and since I'm a mute, it really, really sucks.
grim tusk
use pens?
or if you have vr you can draw words or use sign language or improvised sign language or nod or shake head etc
vocal shard
lmao
tru tru, I used to have a good friend like that. they voice revealed. There voice was so cute @.@
grim tusk
tru I appreciate it when ppl dont feel comrtable talking but they still try to communicate , its wholesome
vocal shard
Yaa, the person got comfortable with me so they started talkin lolz
mellow palm
its always just adorable when i talk to someone mute and they just hug
i cant really explain it
vocal shard
Omgggg yessss, thats so truee! I love head patz and when there taller than mee
omgggg that makes me blush so hard
mellow palm
👍 💕
since im currently a desktop play i cant give any affection back but i make it vocal that I apreciate it a lot
i love dem head pats
vocal shard
yaaaa, I appreciate anything wholesome, I am on desktop too
grim tusk
kekw just use morse code via head pats 200iq 🤔
vocal shard
hahaha
small spire
I need help.. does anyone know how should i delete old messages?
mellow palm
kekw just use morse code via head pats 200iq 🤔
@grim tusk
hah
vocal shard
@small spire what plataform
small spire
um discord?
grim tusk
I need help.. does anyone know how should i delete old messages?
@small spire do you mean delete messages you sent in a dm? or close the dm in general so you dont see that person?
small spire
yes i need to close it in general so i won't see it again , um do u know how?
thank youuuuu
vocal shard
I’ve tried several times to log in into my account, changed email several times and password, but it won’t work.
😔
I can’t even make a new account because it says you need to wait awhile, I’ve waited 24 hour most likely.
I just want to play some VR😔
fossil zinc
uhh, have you tried logging in with a vpn?
fossil zinc
ah i meant have you tried using one then trying to log in?
vocal shard
I tried changing my password also, says it’s still invalid.
Now it says incorrect parameters.
fossil zinc
hmm, I've got no clue brother sorry
alpine turret
someone by the username of "Lo ve" just crashed an entire lobby.
vocal shard
alpine turret
@vocal shard are you a mod?
vocal shard
?
alpine turret
No, youre not, so why sit in a vrc discord chat, linking chats when this can still go in here, theres no rules against it. You just seem condescending asf.
inland knot
fossil zinc
he was just directing you..
vocal shard
I am
I've been here long enough to know that it's useless
mods will just tell you to stop name dropping and to properly report the person with proof through the official way which is indicated in #moderation-reports
but it seems you absolutely want to be right so i'll let your smoothbrain waste your time here
inland knot
He wont get help unless he goes to the moderation reports section. Sounds a lot like youre trying to be condescending.
cold spindle
whenever i sit somewhere in vrchat the hands seem to go into the legs, anyone else having that?
grim tusk
hi bear
vocal shard
If you have any controller plugged in your PC, you need to disconnect it
buoyant mirage
Then stand still in your room
Are you sure you aren’t spinning in real life?
lyric python
I have everything disconnected, and I am sure, I'm not spinning in rl xD
buoyant mirage
Hmm
I’ve done all I can do, this must be dealt with by the pope
lyric python
Haha
buoyant mirage
Am I the only one experiencing my quest overheating after a long session?
Like it’s really warm
Once I think I could smell how warm it was
vocal shard
Ayyyy, Anyone wanna join me and chill?
loud bough
Hi all, so I’m in need of help if anyone could offer a hand. I’d like to be able to stream the likes of vr chat and other vr games but I’m finding it very difficult to know what headset to get. I was looking at the oculus quest 64gb but I’m being told that it’s only for mobile use? I’ve seen YouTube videos of people using it on pc however. Anyone any suggestions or advice?
bright valve
@loud bough i use the quest wireless with the pc. allowing me to do gameplay without needing to be careful with a cable,
broken plover
the quest is a standalone (mobile) vrheadset but it can be used on the pc. However, if you only want to play vr on your pc, then the rift s would be better. And also if your wallet is infinite you should get the valve index because its the best consumer headset out there right now
bright valve
@broken plover the quest is a wireless version of rift s. if you set it up correctly
loud bough
Thanks for the advice lads. So the quest can work just fine on pc through obs etc? Would you need a casting device? I think you can mirror it into obs
broken plover
it still has a few throwbacks. Like only 72hz display, its front heavy (unless you strap something heavy to the back to counterbalance the weight)
vocal shard
My vive trackers just got delivered, time to see how scuffed the Ik is
bright valve
@broken plover i used both the rift s and quest my perf is the quest. unless you run duel 2080 ti the hz doesnt matter, the display in the quest is better than rift s aswell.
vocal shard
Or u could just get a good old cv1
grim tusk
i used both the rift s and quest my perf is the quest. unless you run duel 2080 ti the hz doesnt matter, the display in the quest is better than rift s aswell.
but quest avatar limitations make me sad and cant see frds lol / some worlds
vocal shard
Quest broke the game
broken plover
quest connected to pc
grim tusk
ah i see
vocal shard
It’s quest is the reason why this game went down hill
bright valve
@loud bough but dont buy a new vr headset currently as alot of new headsets are on the edge of releasing. Oculus is releasing a Quest 2.0 with a 120hz monitor in it,
vocal shard
Apart from the fact the devs are stubborn and won’t let outside developers or the community help them code the game properly
loud bough
So would I be right in saying the rift s suits pcvr a lot better as opposed to the quest ?
bright valve
aswell as new oculus controllers are releasing. the current once needs a change every 2nd month
@loud bough no you are not right.
umbral reef
@vocal shard Id love to see a company have other users install exploits into there code
broken plover
rift cv1 is outdated tho. It has lower res screens and the tracking is meh. Its not bad but not that good either
bright valve
alot of my friends have sold there rift s's to buy a quest after they tried my setup out. i am wireless connected to my pc anywhere in the world making the quest the ultimate vr headset on the oculus market,
umbral reef
And it would extremely devalue there company because its a lot more open about its code and software
What means they dont have full ownership over most code anymore unless they want to add a big ass legal note that hard to enforce and puts them at risk
vocal shard
@umbral reef having the devs watch over people or at least contribute like a github would work
It’s not forced into the live code it more like what if this was this and that was that
bright valve
Guys.... Oculus is still releasing quest v2 that has full handtracking controllers like the index controllers, 120hz monitor and being able to be wireless is the biggest upside on it,
vocal shard
U can fbt with the cv1
umbral reef
It’s not forced into the live code it more like what if this was this and that was that
@vocal shard Still an insane security risk and would devalue the company extremely
broken plover
full handtracking? Where'd you get that?
broken plover
I only saw these leaked pictures with the controllers that look like they somewhat went back to the cv1 design but kept the tracking ring at the top because of inside out tracking
vocal shard
@umbral reef it’s not if it’s controlled properly and the code is double checked
vocal shard
Just look at emmvrc they are not malicious they simply adding solutions to problems that vrchat have not fixed
umbral reef
Might be smart to not drop names as to not get banned/kicked
But how are you so sure its not logging all your passwords or using you as a bitcoin mining machine?
vocal shard
I couldn’t care less I’ve been banned of this bloody game 3 times
I don’t use emmvrc
I decompiled it took a peak under the code and it looked clean
wowzers
umbral reef
And your 100% sure about that? Because its not hard to properly hide stuff
vocal shard
I spent about 30-40 mins looking at each section
umbral reef
Can even just inject the code from an remote point after it launched so the most simple code check gets overlooked
vocal shard
Maybe, maybe not
Another thing is unity is a very very easy game to create a utility for
For instance a debug tool for subnautica
That can be done quite easy if you know how to code in c# worth the unity api
new update was a w
Not rly
umbral reef
But again, your not sure if its totally safe or not
And the fact your someone with dev knowledge makes you an extremely rare expention within the game.
You know how long it takes to check over the most simple code to debug it, make it compatible and make sure there is nothing janky in it.
Even if we ignore all the rights on code writen, company value, legal stuff and co you know how not good it would work
vocal shard
knee knock gone issa W
nice
I know I’m just thinking of ways the people who have created fixes In The past can step forward and contribute
Instead of sitting by idly
umbral reef
Find me a company that accepted large scale user development input that isnt some small indie game
umbral reef
Because its not something that works in function
It has to be an full opensource project or its not able to function properly
umbral reef
Because big things like udon and there avi system take a while to develop
Factorio, imo one of the best games out there took 8ish years to get out of early access
vocal shard
In my opinion they should slow down all the new features and optimise old features and or fix them
Such as the ram issues where avatars don’t get unloaded properly
umbral reef
Oh trust me im in favor for that
There are a lot of halfassed systems that could improve the QOL an lot
vocal shard
I started playing this game on jan 13 2018 and ever since the I’ve seen it go down hill
If I’m honest
I’ve had my avatars ripped from me, My pc blues screened, unity crashed the whole nine yards
umbral reef
Thats always been a problem tho
vocal shard
3 weeks ago some kiddie threatened me saying he could make it so I could not login again
Ik
umbral reef
And most of that can really not be solved for all
Also people claim a lot of bullshit in this game, doesnt mean its true
vocal shard
I’ve spoken to vrpill about it before
But anyway I hope this game will pull its finger out as it’s a great concept for a game
I kicked from a world where tupper was because I was being “toxic” I was sitting there as my nikei
ruby burrow
I don't agree with the down hill thing, and every complaint you listed there could have happened in 2016.
vocal shard
@ruby burrow those complaints are my own in which they happened maybe mid 2019
And they still happen
ruby burrow
No, I mean that they're nothing to do with anything going downhill.
Ripping has always been possible and always will be, but is now at least slightly harder than in the past.
Unity crashing is nothing new.
vocal shard
I’ve had to rip my own avatar because my drive corrupted
The api is not secure at all
ruby burrow
It's not no, but it's not gotten worse. It used to be far easier to abuse it.
vocal shard
Ofc
ruby burrow
It needs a major overhaul, but they have been gradually fixing certain holes.
vocal shard
They fix one thing they break another 2 things
umbral reef
There is no real way to prevent users from ripping ever at all unless they go away from unity
umbral reef
You gotta uncrypt it at one point my dude
And with how VRC works it cant be done in chunks, so you would still have the full files
vocal shard
Ye true
The one thing g I wish for is for the ram issues to be resolved
So I don’t have to keep using process lasso to clear my virtual memory
16gb of ram should be plenty for a game
umbral reef
Thats in large part because of the avatar files out there
vocal shard
Yes and no
umbral reef
Some shitty leaks out there too but those are pretty fine now
vocal shard
Still one where over time avatars don’t get unloaded nor worlds
Pretty sure hackspanner is in charge of the avatar systems
So if I see him in game I’ll ask
ruby burrow
I did notice that with the recent update, the avatar loading lag issue has been significantly improved on.
I no longer freeze up for 5 seconds with every avatar load.
ruby burrow
Also I'm glad to see avatar size included in the avatar perf stats now. I'd been saying it would be a beneficial thing to add for a while now.
vocal shard
I’ve turned mine off
ruby burrow
Off? The stats viewing page?
vocal shard
No the avatar size limit so every avatar loads
As space is not an issue for me nor internet download speed
Or upload, I’ve got a Ubuntu server running rn and my internets fine
ruby burrow
Oh, I don't mean the limit. Just the fact that you can se and check size now. The limiter is useful for some though, to prevent waiting 15minutes for a room to load, because one person is consuming all the bandwidth.
I've already seen several cases where people have been surprised at the size of their avatar, and taken steps to fix it.
So has done good.
ruby burrow
One friend of mine was baffled at why his very simple avatar was 69mb in size.
He checked the project and realised he was still using the PSD file in the textures by accident.
Exported a Png and the size went down to 3mb. Zero loss of quality.
vocal shard
Ahh ye psd will kill u
ruby burrow
I met someone else the other day with theirs at 160mb. Could see no visual reason it possibly should be. They'd recently commissioned it, and commented that they'd talk to the artist to figure out why it was huge. No one wants to enter a world and wait for ages before people can see them.
vocal shard
Substance painter exports for unity in PNG format. the textures consist of the albedo, the normal map, and the maos map which has metallic and ambient occlusion
If u do textures properly then they should be quite small in size
One thing people dont do which they should if they do keyframed animations like me is compress the audio file into ogg format
That decrease the file size from like 20 mb to about 3-4mb
stone current
u can export 2k and 4k textures just fine from substance no biggie
vocal shard
Ye Ik
ruby burrow
For a lot of people texture optimisation still isn't even a concept they consider.
Which is part of why I always felt avatar size would be beneficial. People are very conditioned to paying attention to simple numbers.
stone current
if you crunch compress they can take up little to no space in comparison to minor, usually indistinguishable, quality loss
which is great if you want your texture to look nice from up close without suffering from loading times
vocal shard
Most people don’t crunch their textures
ruby burrow
Talk to people about megabytes or "This is bigger", and they pay attention. Talk to them about draw calls and more detailed profiler stats, and they glaze over.
stone current
yea i always optimize my avatars to use less materials and well atlased textures at 2-4k
with mip maps of course so that it doesnt always eat memory and look sharp
vocal shard
will there ever be a time where the name vrchat will be changed
If your in ybot haven like me, you will get skinned alive for not crunching
Anyone know where I can find the Mexi-kon avatar
jolly trout
vrchat2
stone current
to what? "Chat"?
ruby burrow
Same as how many electronics products are sold with stuff like capacity or RAM as their forefront stat, even if it's not remotely a real metric of how good the product is.
vocal shard
Yeah chat prob
@vocal shard why change it?
vrchat is a really misleading title
It’s not
ruby burrow
"Prebuilt gaming PC, 2 terabyte!" right in the headline.
stone current
its called vr chat bc u can chat in vr, no one said that u can only play trump simulator at the white house
vocal shard
It has desktop yes but it not meant for desktop
grim tusk
vrchat2
@jolly trout vrchat2 : battle royale 😂
stone current
people think vr chat is vr only because theyre also the kind of people who think ur not allowed to put anything else in a water bottle
ruby burrow
If you truly want desktop chat, then G-Mod provides more desktop friendly features.
But VR-Chat is built for VR first and foremost.
vocal shard
@stone current I play in desktop all the time I just think that changing the name would have no reason
stone current
desktop users are the majority actually i think
stone current
but vr users are at like 40%-ish
vocal shard
It’s 50 / 50 I’d say
ruby burrow
I'm not sure how the stats are right now, since it might have shifted since more youtube personalities brought in new users, but based on the past stats provided by the VRC devs, the ratio of VR to desktop was basically even, leaning on there being slightly more VR.
vocal shard
Every since last Christmas vr went up
ruby burrow
VR was at least 40% yeah. I'd need to find the stats again to figure out where I got that conclusion from.
stone current
no its more desktop because ugly knuckles, jameskii, no no square, tigers, and uh
vocal shard
I’m good friends with jameskii
ruby burrow
How many of which user type you see depends entirely on where you go and which community you hang with.
stone current
i hate him like any other troll lol
vocal shard
Can people help me get more avitars?
Hate him or love him he brought a lot of attention to the game
dire thicket
Did vrchat get a update today or something? My hips just broke when they were completely fine yesterday
stone current
yea
stone current
no thats someone else @vocal shard called juicy
vocal shard
oh
ruby burrow
Go to common public worlds and you're gonna see 75% desktop, 20% VR and 5% FBT.
But in the instances I spend most of my time in, that ratio literally reverses, with FBT users consistently being the most common by far.
broken plover
wasnt it joshdub and eddie or someone like that?
vocal shard
@ruby burrow I add to the 5% the I guess
stone current
juicy vr whatever his name is when he made the dumb song parody
vocal shard
gonna be honest i just straight up block brushes
stone current
i don't like that vrchat added quest support
vocal shard
not worth the time at all
frosty veldt
Quest support is fine, the bugs that came with it not so much
vocal shard
Anyway I’m going to head out if any of yall want to add me in game my name is WOLFIE_OG
stone current
i am alright with quest linking but if you use unlinked quest you only have access to like 10% of vrchat and the majority of them are children who i immediately mute
ruby burrow
I've never really seen any of these brushes... >_>;
frosty veldt
I can't remember the last time I saw a quest user lol
stone current
@ruby burrow go to murder 2 lobbies until you join the one with only quest users
its disgusting
broken plover
go to public vrchat hub and youll see alot
vocal shard
I see quest users all time in murder 2
stone current
almost all the quest users i see shouldnt even be allowed on vrchat in he first place
vocal shard
Imma make a scuffed nikei which has fucked up visemes and is decimated to fuck and call it quest friendly
wary wigeon
whats a brush
broken plover
this green no no square thing
stone current
i made an avatar that has a quest version and the quest version just says "robots are gay but i wanted to say i support quest so here have a big wall of text on a single triangle. Optimized!"
vocal shard
Lmao
stone current
PC users who cloned it were none the wiser
broken plover
I have a low poly version (which looks really bad) with standard mobile shader and no visimes because they got lost during decimation as my quest version
stone current
tbf linking to pc with quest is ok
vocal shard
He crashed after saying that
stone current
im all for that but not playing unlinked
vocal shard
I havent seen anyone other than Rift s users bashing the rift s
stone current
robot voice time
vocal shard
exactly
spiral mason
Poor desktop gang rise up
stone current
its funny when someones using quest/rifts and all u hear is kfiwhdkejfiekfnskkskd brbrbrbrbrbrrbrbababrbaccevahwbrbbananemelekeme 🤖
vocal shard
i feel blessed that i wasnt cursed with the robot voice
wary wigeon
Rift S users are the only ones that have to put up with the Rift S nonsese thats why
stone current
instead of STOP KILLING ME U F WORD!!!! WAA
vocal shard
Yeah i hope one day they fix that mic issue
stone current
i kinda do kinda don't
its funnier than muting them personally because to me it happens when thye get mad
wary wigeon
They wont, Oculus didnt even make the Rift S, lenovo did. Its just a stand in until the Quest is better
vocal shard
F
ruby burrow
Is also sad how the Rift-S cutting it's corners was a golden ticket for Vive to effortlessly hold onto the mid range consumer market, and they threw that chance away.
vocal shard
I got the rift s because of the halo and because i wanted pcvr and link apparently isnt reliable
ruby burrow
Literally just keep selling the original Vive, with the audio strap included as standard, and offset the cost by using the same cheaper display as the Rift-S. Sell that for no more then $500 and they'd have won easy secure sales with virtually no new investment or R&D needed.
stone current
vive and valve is stealing away customers from oculus so fast
like i absolutely hate oculus and thats coming from someone whos used a CV1 for a very long time
ruby burrow
Rift-S is perfectly decent. But it just has those rough edges, than a rival selling for $100 more could easily round out.
vocal shard
I think every headset has rough edges tho
stone current
so glad i bought index
ive found nothing bad about index so far aside from the finger tracking obv not being perfect
vocal shard
same about the rift s for me
wary wigeon
Im still using my CV1 with no issues, and the Quest is selling pretty well, tho not being used for VRC really
stone current
major upgrade from what i used to have and its super fun for me especially since i communicate with sign language in VR
ruby burrow
Well, Valve and Rift are on opposite ends of the spectrum. It's more like Valve is taking customers from Vive mainly.
But yeah, Oculus not catering to the mid-range or enthusiast markets does leave Valve as the only appealing option.
stone current
oculus is basically like "here u can play games"
ruby burrow
Yeah, right now no one headset is perfect.
stone current
its not like "here you can play games with better tracking in a professional environment"
vocal shard
I havent had a single problem with rift s and i dont regret the purchase
the tracking on rift is pretty good imo
stone current
i hate oculus because their software is poop and i have to run it and steamvr together
ruby burrow
But there's a decent range of options at least. The only thing missing is an option for FBT that doesn't cost you $1380 to start out.
wary wigeon
Thats good, hope your S lasts long
ruby burrow
When I started with Vive, I had my FBT for only $880
stone current
what
my fbt cost like 350 with straps, my index kit already came with stations and such
ruby burrow
I'm adding the cost of the headset+trackers+straps together, plus some cables for charging the things.
stone current
yea vr is great especially during covid and its the only exercise i ever do because its fun and makes me move at the same time
vocal shard
beat saber is amazing
wary wigeon
My FBT only cost like $500-$600 for the two baystations and the pucks
vocal shard
also when i got my rift i was not expecting it to be 3d
stone current
theres only 2 good things i have to say from my past experience with my oculus rift:
ruby burrow
I generally cite the price of FBT to people as being roughly $380, due to the extras they're inevitably going to want. Trying to charge FBT with only two cables is a nightmare.
stone current
- It got me used to VR so i didnt break my Index in like 2 seconds and will make it last like forever without RMA
- I miss the oculus keyboard, steamvr keyboard is aids
ruby burrow
Heh. Yeah, a lot of people don't quite seem to understand what VR is until they try it.
stone current
i learned to not have jump on my joystick to prevent long term damage and drifting
vocal shard
i accidently hit my wall its that immersive its insane
stone current
and not to hit things with my controllers even tho cv1 controllers stronk af
just to let you know there is a reason why only my right controller has drifting
ruby burrow
I'd been following the tech for a long time, so the concept of stereo vision and what it's really about was already firmly in my mind when thinking about it.
wary wigeon
Ive cracked the blade on my ceiling fan by hitting it with the CV1 controller, controller is fine and tracks normally
vocal shard
The 3d effect in vr is so real its insane
vocal shard
yeah my controller is pretty good even tho ive hitted stuff before
stone current
i used to play in my bedroom with no space and whacked a lamp across the room like a baseball
definitely won't touch a single thing in my playspace now
vocal shard
is anyone else when they get out of the headset you are reminded you are in your room
stone current
no but i had a framerate issue with real life
vocal shard
or is it just me
stone current
first few times i took off my headset i was like wow my frames are so goo- wait a minute
vocal shard
nice lol
mellow palm
haha
stone current
my index runs lighter than my rift too its funny
ruby burrow
Yeah, I had that potpot. When I first got VR, I'd wake up at night needing the toilet, and still feel like I was in VR. I'd take a step forward and then freeze, having to think about how to move and afraid of bumping into invisible walls.
mellow palm
oh my
stone current
i didnt have motion sickness when i started vr but one time my headset stopped tracking and i almost fell onto my desk
mellow palm
didnt know VR would work so extremely well that it fucks with your sense of reality
i wish that will happen with me once i get one
ruby burrow
It really can. You soon get accustomed to it, but at first it can be pretty crazy.
Especially if your early experiences are binging something like VR-Chat for up to 12 hours at a time like I did. xD
vocal shard
I tried this rollercoaster app and it deadass felt like i was on the coaster
inner thistle
anybody got any ideas for a gamertag, I'm getting Vr chat and I can't decide
ruby burrow
For me it was also that I started VR-Chat with VR. Never did desktop. So it had that "new game" effect on top of things where my brain was obsessed about it, not really stopping even when sleeping.
mellow palm
what a shame im already on desktop so i cant have such
ruby burrow
@inner thistle My one recommendation for a name in VR-Chat, is to imagine people saying it to you. Because much more than any other game it will become very much your name as far as people are concerned.
inner thistle
Ohhh ok thanks Squishy
ruby burrow
If it's long or made of multiple words, people will simplify it when they say it.
inner thistle
oh ok
ruby burrow
Also they'll naturally judge just very slightly based on the kind of name you use.
Eg, pick something aggressive and edgy, and they might be more inclined to think you're a crasher. Pick something memeish, and you're a memer. Pick something cute and derpy like mine, and everyone will randomly grope you to check if the name checks out.
... >_>;
proven kernel
fix avatars we are floating and tiptoeing
potent furnace
proven kernel
making me run around looking like a chicken
solid oracle
I have a question that might be dumb to ask but does the desktop vr resolution size matter when you play in vr mode? If I make it tiny so that it doesnt use cpu power does it affect my vr experience?
proven kernel
Like two updates ago working fine now chicken walking
tacit plank
are friend api requests limited to 500? they load really slowly
btw playspacemover can fix tiptoeing
knotty ferry
Is anyone else able to favorite & unfavorite avatars?
I've been unable to since last night and I do not know why.
ruby burrow
Random fun fact. You no longer need FBT to leave the ground and climb around with playspace mover since the update.
All VR users can now go climb stuff.
knotty ferry
Wait, really?
frosty veldt
Yeah your feet are not forcefully grounded in normal VR so you can play space upwards
ruby burrow
Yeah. There's also this silly trick you can do now, where if you jump and whilst in mid-air open a static menu (like the settings menu), you can then playspace away from the menu, and your avatars feet will continue aiming at the spot you were standing.
Meaning you can sort of lay down without needing FBT.
Is janky to pull of and easy to accidentally close the menu, but I've had some sly friends making use of it to infiltrate the FBT cuddle blobs.
Can move playspace in any direction to end up laying on front, back or sides.
One key limit of it though, is that you can't move the playspace too low, or else once you reach crouching height (relative to your starting location), it will close the menu and cancel it.
So you either have to lay in the air, or find some lower point in the world to start from if you want to reach the ground without it breaking, such as starting from down a step.
split reef
They fixed analog trigger values not being able to be read on the vive controller.
But not the Quest, apparently.
yay. i love resetting my headset multiple times in order to launch the game.
The Quest sucks, sometimes.
mellow palm
My one recommendation for a name in VR-Chat, is to imagine people saying it to you. Because much more than any other game it will become very much your name as far as people are concerned.
@ruby burrow
My choice of name is very fitting then
thinking back i should have done it differently
elder cloud
god I fucking hate crashers
hazy thistle
world hopping tend to meet crashers.
inner tapir
havent had alot of crashing
vocal shard
Some VR users float when they look down
hazy thistle
i crash some one before by mistake in one of my maps on a object due to particle effects where on high number and i had to lower it
there where 4 layers of particle effects each at 1k so it was 4k animation
so i set each to 50
mellow palm
god I fucking hate crashers
@elder cloud
adjust your safeties settings then
hazy thistle
yep i leave white blue green orange half of the animations off
i only leave purple and yellow on
so i heard couple of days ago the avatar legs where bent in crouching position for like a day and then they fixed it
grand wave
Does anyone know why my unity crashes whenever I try to switch it to android mode
hazy thistle
not me i only upload pc worlds
grand wave
Is there another way to upload a pc skin to quest?
hazy quail
can someone tell me where i can find info on how to fix my occulus control bindings pls. i found the settings on the steam things, but when i click bind notting happenes
grand wave
Or can I copy it from pc to quest in game?
quaint hill
question, fbt user. my torso looks stretched after the new update. ;-;
round flame
Does anybody wanna play vrchat?
civic merlin
What’s that?
jolly trout
Yeah what is that? Never heard of it
copper apex
Heard of what? VRChat? What the hell? Where can I get it?
vocal shard
who is vrchat, and what does he do? how much it costs?
modern harbor
Who is VR and why does he chat?
broken plover
because hes lonely
vocal shard
whos desktopchat and why isnt he vr?
severe dew
Who's android and why isnt he properly vrchat?
bronze folio
Anyone know how to work with unity 2018?
bronze folio
I have a prefab down and everything I am just tryna figure out how to do basic stuff
severe dew
Ahhh Is it 2.0 or 3.0?
severe dew
Then I suggest watching some tutorials
bronze folio
okii
severe dew
I suggest doing 2.0 before touching 3.0
toxic dagger
wow, they actually fixed the issues with my avatar :)
trim oracle
bad suggestio,n if you are starting just learn 3.0
why learn habits that will be unsupported
harsh iris
so i just got my trackers andd everytime i try and set up my avatar i cant. like i move around my playspace to try and get the balls in the feet and hips but when i move my avatar moves too and i cant get the balls to go where they should because my avatar is always in front. and i have tried multiple avatars. even one that my friend has that he has working with full body
broken plover
most anime avatars have legs longer than your irl legs. But you can still use them in full body. Just tpose irl, look straight forward and then press both triggers. That should give you pretty good results
trim oracle
thats the new fbt calibration system, just put your legs comfortably shoulder length apart and do what nico said
if you wanna do the old one you will need to set steam launch options "--legacy-fbt-calibrate"
harsh iris
when i just stand there and tpose irl with the balls behind my legs it just forces my legs together and i cant acctually use them
trim oracle
balsls houldnt be behidn your legs
harsh iris
i cant get them infront
trim oracle
then try to old calobration launch option
harsh iris
how i set that up
trim oracle
read literaly what i wrote beforee your post
harsh iris
mhmm. how do i set that up in steam. IE where do i go in steam to do that
trim oracle
oh, rightclick vrcaht in your libray, properties, set launch optins
harsh iris
assuming dont use the " just the dashes
trim oracle
correct
harsh iris
alright ill try that
vocal shard
😊 👋 Yooooo
harsh iris
that works better. two more issues tho. i cant lower the feet balls to my acctual feet even if i move the trackers lower irl. also my hip ball is 30 feet in front of me when i get my legs fine
broken plover
the avatar proportions arent like your real life proportions because most anime avatars have longer legs. Idk about the hip tho. Maybe its loosing tracking a bit
harsh iris
idk. maybe i can find an avatar that works for me. or make one.
broken plover
in the legacy avatars row there are two avatars that have human proportions. Theyre called y-bot and x-bot you can try them out to see if everything works correctly
brittle furnace
i know this is random as can be but i wanna start streaming again for VRchat and was wondering if there is anyone that can help me out with some things anf figuring out streamlabs more
harsh iris
now that i can help with when im not busy. maybe later i can help you out with streamlabs. i cant stream because of poop internet but i do know how to use it
crimson patrol
are you having issues with just that avatar or other avatars as well when calibrating
harsh iris
every avatar ive tried. even one that my firend uses for fbt
i just cant get the feet balls to acctually go to the feet on any avatar or the hip to stay in the hip
crimson patrol
The stilts thing is normal per https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/full-body-tracking - there's nothing you can do about that with the balls being in your shins. Goofy proportions will do that. Your viewpoint being in front of behind you sounds like the viewpoint within the VRC avatar descriptor is off though
harsh iris
well. i know 100% the avatars ive made have the descriptor correct. i have 6 different ones and i know thats not the problem. im fine with the feet being the shins. it still moves the legs. but the hip is just broken
crimson patrol
Is your hip tracker in the correct position when you open the SteamVR menu and look down?
harsh iris
yes
vocal shard
I have a question.
crimson patrol
I've got zero thoughts on why your trackers would be in front or behind you if the VRC avatar descriptor position is appropriately aligned and your trackers are tracking properly . Maybe someone else who knows more than me and can weigh in
I have a question.
@vocal shard you don't need permission to ask a question you can just ask 🙂
open kraken
I have one question for @harsh iris . is your height set correctly in settings? that could be what screws up everything. that is also the major reason people tiptoeing or float right now.
At least it is one thing to test out
vocal shard
Can I log in with my email in the game then user?
ruby needle
You can
vocal shard
Even if it only stands user?
harsh iris
yes i have my irl height set. ive just been trouble shooting. changing locations of base stations. trying to change tracker positions. nothing seems to be working with anything i try
fast oxide
If an avatar had jiggle physics but only on the eyes, what would that look like? Very deep thoughts
vocal shard
the eyes would move around like googly eyes
fast oxide
Nah like, the entire eyeball. Squishy and jiggly
whole wharf
is the website not loading for anyone else?
vocal shard
works fine for me
whole wharf
it's been stuck loading for the last 30 minutes. refreshing doesn't work
round flame
Am I the only one who can’t favorite/unfavorite avatar?
crimson patrol
I've had an avatar that went private saved to my favorites, now I can't unfavorite that slot going on a month
fossil void
fleet raven
Have they added the ability to see how many people cloned an avatar you made yet? Arguably you put in the same effort into an avatar as you do a world.
vocal shard
no that's not a feature
fleet raven
oof maybe one day
visual crater
can somebody tell me how i can disable that debug thing i am on vive
vocal shard
Open the circle action menu. >Options> debug
proper tendon
@vocal shard Sorry for the delayed response. When the avatar 3.0 update rolled out, it caused a problem where any model with toes bones would stand on their tip toes at all times, and models without toe bones assigned still stood with their legs unnaturally straight, even so far as to make it look like the legs were bending a bit backwards sometimes. The update on 8/13 fixed that issue, but then the latest update brought it back. That's what I meant last night about a "tip toe issue."
meager rose
Sometimes you need to adjust your height to above or below real life height in VRC to get tracking to line up better
Also in Avatar 3.0 Not sure which sdk you are using you can move the viewpoint with the mouse which is way easier, it shouldn't be in front of your head
vocal shard
Weird. I logged on for both updates and didn't have that toe issues. Wonder what the cause is
meager rose
@proper tendon lower your avatar height in game settings it will take you off your tip toes
proper tendon
If it helps I've been playing on desktop for the past while. I noticed it on other desktop users, and at least one VR user who's usually in seated play.
visual crater
that circle isnt showing up
proper tendon
@meager rose That probably would be what I'd do, but that's not an option when playing on desktop.
meager rose
I totally understand have you considered adjusting your avatar in unity to change that? perhaps lowering the view point might help?
vocal shard
Try deleting the VRC descriptor and put it back in
proper tendon
I haven't tried adjusting the viewpoint to fix it, but it happens on avatars at a lot of different heights, so I'm not sure how helpful that would be.
And I'm not sure how much a new descriptor would work because I've seen it happen on avatars uploaded with 3.0 too.
vocal shard
than maybe it's a bug on your end cause it never happens with me
meager rose
Yeah I usually adjust the view point in Unity or height in settings and it resolves it
Unless you have a complex avatar with meshes that might be at a different height, but I wouldn't know much about that.
proper tendon
The problem is universal at least as far as avatars go. So adjusting the viewpoint on literally every one doesn't seem hugely practical. Especially since it was back to normal for a day.
And the devs at least seemed aware of that at one point because the 8/13 update announcement specifically addresses the issue I'm talking about.
gleaming vine
How do I turn off safe mode?
ruby needle
@vocal shard i dunno who you're pointing to, but #general-media is for vrchat unrelated topics(Thats what random chat actually is for.), public lobby is suposed to still be mostly vrchat related. 
vocal shard
Greetings! ❤️ Currently looking for some friends. My username is Cheerful. Thank you. 18+, please.
wet notch
How can i take a video on VRchat camera?!
raw pine
Stream Camera (VR Only) - Access in the “Camera” menu. While using a VR headset, use the Stream Camera to mirror the camera's view to your desktop. Ideal for recording or streaming in third person! - See Active Cameras - You can see all active cameras around you by opening your Quick Menu @wet notch
grand wave
Can I clone a Pc avatar if I’m on quest?
wet notch
Aww thank u
raw pine
your welcome
olive wing
There's been reports of slow world loading lately and I was wondering if anyone here has had the same issue?
west yoke
Doesn't look like I am considering I can download from their servers at 91 Mbps
waxen mortar
I have the issue where some world will be stuck at loading screen in a loop... and launch option:vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wld_97fda4a1-f820-4f09-a88c-2d2a95b668f7:1~friends is not fixing it 😕
gleaming vine
Same @waxen mortar
dusty epoch
hey does anyone know how fix my mic? it wont let ppl hear me, im on a desktop rn
grand wave
@dusty epoch you might have to manually grant it access to your mic in settings
olive wing
Check to see if windows is using your mic by default
dusty epoch
how do i do that
like ik to press v to talk, doesnt work, went to setting in vr chat, nothing, when i plug in my headphones it as me what device im using and i select head phones
raw basalt
anyone know how long it takes for ur account to change from visitor to new user
final thunder
about 20 hours or so
raw basalt
ty
honest flume
what did they do this time? all my prone idol animations are broken and my arms on all of the models i have are wonky?
I'm guessing they fixed something for fb users but didn't think about the other 60% of their general populous.. How about taking back 3.0 into beta where it should be until you ACTUALLY have things in a stage where it's acceptable... this is frustrating. I know you guys are working hard on this and its appreciated by many, including myself.. but all of this looks bad and it feels like the gun was jumped. js
dapper coral
yeah they broke proning
solemn wedge
You gotta recalibrate the spaghettinegator drive and update the big chungus drivers
After that you’ve gotta reactivate the reddit wholesome generator and fuckin uhh punch your pc a few times
honest flume
Sense makes. Domo thank you, MonkiPants! 😉 @solemn wedge
solemn wedge
I genuinely cannot make sense of this sentence.
Is this what foreigners feel like reading English as a foreign language?
honest flume
oh.. Gomen.. Watashi wa eigo shika hanasemasen! 🤷♀️
undone sierra
Anybody watching UFC 252 tonight
solemn wedge
Bruh reciting the lyrics of Baka Mitai
snow trellis
Anyone else's downloading speeds on Vrchat's servers slow? I did a speedtest and everything and it seems like vrc is the only thing thats very slow downloading anything...
solemn wedge
Oh that’s the fighting league right? I used to watch that all the time with my aunt @undone sierra
undone sierra
Yes mines was slow last night
undone sierra
HEADSET
snow trellis
wait hold on the mention was gone
vocal shard
after long last someone told me my mic went to shit and i sounded like a robot
oh wait no it was cause of obs
inner tapir
Sometimes you just be robot
crude kayak
Supp
inner tapir
Hey
vocal shard
Hello.
jolly trout
Howdy
modern harbor
👀
last lichen
hey guys my grandpa is trying to talk he has nothing muted all his volumes turned max and hes using normal mic that comes with quest any sugestions
modern harbor
Lmao.
vocal shard
lol
jolly trout
Mhmm
vocal shard
cough cough
jolly trout
:0
vocal shard
Anybody wanna play VRchat?
modern harbor
Take your sweet-ass time when typing then.
vocal shard
I was being serious
lol
because people can't type fast so if 4 people are having a conversation at the same time in this channel it will prevent a bunch of messages being sent fast or it'll prevent spam
Take your sweet-ass time when typing then.
@modern harbor I will take my sweet ass time! thanks for reminding me,I almost forgot!
modern harbor
👌
vocal shard
marsh stump
So for some reason blocked avatars can still show effects
vocal shard
hmmm
marsh stump
Pulled shift esc because someone attempted to use a crasher, it blocked the crasher stuff but was still able to shake the screen slightly
marsh stump
Must be buggy on my end then alright nvm carry on
vocal shard
hmmm,okay.
chrome cloud
I am trying to locate a specific person she has blade at the end of her name dose anyone here know a vr chat player with blade at the end of there name?, MLP fan I think
modern harbor
Not saying so in 3 channels would be a good start.
chrome cloud
haw would that help
modern harbor
It would help by not annoying people.
civic merlin
We don’t care either
modern harbor
@civic merlin I don't care about YOU!
civic merlin
Yes you do bby uwu
modern harbor
That was a lie!
chrome cloud
i just don't care what other think im looking for info
vocal shard
that's a bit messed up m8
civic merlin
I didn’t want to be rude but if you didn’t add the person and they didn’t add you she’s probably gone or doesn’t want to talk to you
chrome cloud
she wants to talk to me believe me she probably quit the game but I will never know
vocal shard
LOL
chrome cloud
she JW two
civic merlin
Idk you’re creepy
vocal shard
jw?
chrome cloud
she knows what I mean
vocal shard
ah,jehovah's witness. Wow
civic merlin
God we have to worry about jehovahs witnesses invading vrchat
modern harbor
Lmao lol.
vocal shard
Can we just stop. Rule 5
yes sir!
orders have been followed because I am a good mtf soldier
chrome cloud
ok will not bather about this here anymore just I have never tried to look for her here before
civic merlin
Can we just ban animal dude since it’s in his name
vocal shard
fr
ok will not bather about this here anymore just I have never tried to look for her hear before
@chrome cloud hear? or did you mean here*
chrome cloud
ok
civic merlin
Or maybe the rules don’t matter and I can put things in my name that support the Germans during world war 2
vocal shard
Oh,now I see. jw is weird af.
We should stop talking about this.
End of the conversation.
opaque hawk
what is the desktop afk button?
civic merlin
alt f4
chrome cloud
I have only bin in one server dumb enough to ban be just for what is in my name
I have seen people with name then (killer) or name (666) or name (lewd) so ya my name and then my religious group is nothing to get upset over I have had a cool discussion with someone about it once or twice to in the privet dm of course
opaque hawk
Oh that worked, thanks @civic merlin 😏
vocal shard
dude just shut up @chrome cloud
onyx laurel
click the END key on your keyboard @opaque hawk
brave compass
Lol what
reef gale
could the devs make the controls back to how they were on htc vive?
vocal shard
hot mesa
i feel like im from that spongebob walking meme when i look down and walk in vr lmfao, my legs look so weird
heady salmon
why
jolly trout
Cause he’s mentally unstable and he hopes this will make him feel better
It won’t though
mellow palm
hmm
why the need to put your religion in the name. it will just spark discussions at the end really, hah
vocal shard
heya Fox.
mellow palm
hello there mtf
civic merlin
Hello there mr foxy uwu
modern harbor
AM?
vocal shard
it's 9:44 pm rn.
modern harbor
Where?
vocal shard
My country?
civic merlin
Swaggetry squarty vrchat is now your country
vocal shard
I live in America.
modern harbor
Cool.
vocal shard
Ikr
civic merlin
Mtf do you put milk in tea
modern harbor
I don't put anything in tea because I don't like tea.
civic merlin
U r banned 😤
modern harbor
You wouldn't ban me from anything!
civic merlin
Fox is the chosen one
modern harbor
He is not.
mellow palm
pseudo flume
What's up with the new world category? I honestly don't know what it's about.
modern harbor
Further data is pending.
vocal shard
Does anyone know what happened to the Studio Ghibli world by any chance?
Who wants to vibe with me?
@tranquil python I can sorta help with that
quaint sage
what's the afk key in desktop
outer fractal
hii
mellow sundial
Maybe the sleep button? If your keyboard has one?
outer fractal
what world should I go to?
mellow sundial
Heyo... right, slow mode is on. Forgot about that.
outer fractal
a place where people drink and look at trippy things
I will randomly explore around... my VRchat username is the same as my discord one (exit42)... see you around 😄
vocal shard
alrighty then.
fresh fable
anyone fancy attending Harmony Virtual Music Festival? Have the stream opened up in a world. Live DJ's, Live Visuals. (Dubstep/Drum and Bass)
Bukez Finest playing rn
ill-gates up next
dm for invite,
outer fractal
that sounds dope tho I didn't have prior plans
cosmic delta
when will steel and gold and ctf come back to vr chat?
outer fractal
CTF? wow so many things
small spire
grim tusk
morning! ☀️
cloud ginkgo
Who's a weeb
regal furnace
everyone
cloud ginkgo
Me too
grim tusk
I have seen 50 anime which isn't much though 🤔
fast oxide
In an alternate dimension there is no VRchat only RVchat. It's the same game but every world is a trailer park
grim tusk
Woah crazy, does the game still crash in that world 😂
fast oxide
It crashes every time
grim tusk
I cri every time 😭
fast oxide
Plus tornados all the time
small wing
and each and every avatar is just squidbillies
glacial swift
wheres the big pink crystal key?
safe fractal
hm?
glacial swift
and also, do you have to do anything with the books or toys?
frosty fulcrum
what's the difference of this channel and public-lobby
vocal shard
description of public lobby : A lobby where anyone can read messages. The rest of the channels are locked behind a role
you needed a role to see the other channels but they removed it but didn't delete the channel
safe fractal
Yeah. If you didn’t get verified yet, you could only see Libby.
Libby what- I meant lobby.
frosty fulcrum
ahh, got it
is there a VRC world that's like a moon base (other than the Mars base one)
or like a space station
stone quest
How do you display fps when testing a world?
jovial lion
Slowmode
stone quest
Are you suggesting something for the mars world or is that an addon for fps?
vocal shard
that person was just talking about their annoyance of slowmode.
pure sparrow
cosmic wind
the people who was in one of the great pug who was bullying the poor guy saying he has down syndrome he doesnt i know what someone with down syndrome sounds like and acts like he doesnt have it me other hand i have MR and asperger autism and iam happy thats who iam and that how god made me people who bully other people only do it better it makes them feel better and it usely mean something happen in there life to do that to bully people if a mod gets hold of this msg pls whisper me i can tel lyou what all happen they was being a ass to this guy
jovial kestrel
The best way to report incidents in-app is to report the user via the ingame report system, in addition to using the steps in #moderation-reports with relevant screenshots or video if you have them available.
cosmic wind
ok
wraith sable
are hand gestures now completely gone?
exotic wadi
Has anyone who uses Voicemeter Bannana and OBS encountered an issue with the audio volume from VRChat being really quiet? Everything was fine till recently. I'm concerned an update made the audio from the app, which is fed into Voicemeeter and then into OBS, much quieter than it used to be, while my mic, which is fed into Voicemeeeter and then into OBS is still at normal volume.
cosmic wind
i dont uses Voicemeter Bannana bec i dont rely think you need it to rec videos on vrchat this need obs
vocal shard
does anyone have tips on how not to run into creeps on vrchat?
stay in private worlds with your friends and just don't go to public worlds.
if you do go to public worlds and encounter a creep,immediately block them or something
yuh
or just report them or something
yeah probably
raw pine
yh i agree with coffee
vocal shard
Anyone know where I can get a doom Slayer model
mellow palm
I prefer only friends worlds over private
you can still meet new people but the chance of creeps is lower i believe
junior meteor
Are there any skilled vr chat avatar creators out there that still do commission work ?
Does this mean you can ?
cold knot
Anyone elses new worlds and recently updated busted and stuck on the same ones?
grim tusk
what isnt happening here
vocal shard
there's quite a simple explanation really
cosmic wind
There is creeps everywhere even goes for bullys to you this have to block them or report them but ya i came cross a lot of them
tough berry
Anime is too popular in vr-chat
vocal shard
the avatars you will most likely run into are either comedy or weeb, there's barely an inbetween
tough berry
the avatars you will most likely run into are either comedy or weeb, there's barely an inbetween
@vocal shard furries.
vocal shard
oh yeah them
mellow palm
is it normal for vrchat to randomly run as if my computer came out of the 90s?
tough berry
Ok, I will try to make my own avatar
vocal shard
give him a cool hat
tough berry
I will give my avatar a flamethrower, to burn all weebs and furries
vocal shard
i just noticed you have "Fefchan's slave" in your username so i cant help but think that you might be a weeb as well
tough berry
Fefchan is "Fefchanskiy" but shortened, cuz there is a limit of 32(or less) letters in nickname
i just noticed you have "Fefchan's slave" in your username so i cant help but think that you might be a weeb as well
@vocal shard your statement is invalid, now buy Skyrim
opaque oriole
I'm on WMR and my controllers aren't showing up on VRC
maiden torrent
junior meteor
Can someone help me, when I try to upload an avatar it says no asset has been set for This build
vocal shard
Honey nut cheerios.
ruby burrow
Weeb avatars are more common for many many reasons.
The first reason probably being because Miku Miku Dance exists, and Batman Batman Dance does not exist.
Half the avatars people were using in 2017 and early 2018, already existed for most of a decade before VR-Chat did. Fully featured with lip-sync, facial expressions, an easily converted rig perfect for even full body VR, and a huge pool of highly compatible pre-existing assets to customise them with, whist also using an art style that is comparatively easy to modify, doesn't rely on advanced texture work, and avoids the uncanny valley effect.
ruby burrow
The comparative sources of models from Western culture are 98% video games, with highly contrasting art styles, often ripped without a rig, and very rarely have quality lip-sync or any VRC suitable facial expression. (Game assets more often come with face bones (if any) rather than blendshapes, which are a lot harder to work with for a casual user)
rough pulsar
The worst part is that toon shading can hide lazy modeling practices so low quality models don't look that bad, despite being atrocious when looked at closely.
Which makes it easier for inexperienced users.
rough pulsar
Yeah. The easiest to get are also the lowest quality.
ruby burrow
Also, whilst it's fun to be able to use diverse and unusual avatars in VR, for the social side of things people do generally like to feel a degree of similarity between themselves and others. "Human enough" to relate to the character, whilst having room for personalisation.
People like to feel like their own self designed character (even if common assets get passed around and over used like fads), and they like to feel comfortable, and that's easier with the semi-casual theme that the anime art style gears towards.
(Just speaking broadly. There's obviously a lot with absurd showy outfits or features too)
quaint cedar
I've got an icon that says afk with a slash through a keyboard and I can't move or figure out how to get that to turn off. I'm on WMR if that makes a difference. Anyone able to tell me how to fix?
rough pulsar
Disable AFK mode, hold the menu button to get one of the radial menus up, push the stick towards an element and pull the trigger to select, find your way to config and disable AFK.
vocal shard
no
ruby burrow
I suppose another point I'd not actually considered til now, is how the simplified faces and exaggerated facial features also work well for the early limitations of VR. It's much easier to appreciate that eye tracking or facial animation from a further distance when it's four times larger than life, colourful and has easier to distinguish bolder lines.
gaunt bridge
Its firee thoo
jolly trout
-_-
tacit plank
That new horror world says "Made without Udon", that's some great banter
rough pulsar
Considering they started on it almost a year ago, yeah made without udon.
tacit plank
Woah, that makes sense then
Still, Udon is a bit lacking. Can it be that sharing Udon prefabs is difficult? At least I'm not seeing things like media players and such. There also seems to be issues with synchronization. I don't believe that people are avoiding Udon because it's difficult
rough pulsar
Any kind of web access is being delayed due to security issues (you could reliably identify and track users and a fair bit of other info about them). There are udon prefabs popping up and part of it is definitely the complexity.
Sync is another one, yeah.
ruby burrow
Where do you get that impression? It has some minor side issues, but the examples out there speak for themselves.
If people are avoiding Udon it's only for one of two reasons far as I see things.
Either they don't need the features it offers for their simple chillout room, or it's too challenging for the ideas they'd otherwise like to make but aren't willing to commit to.
Lakuza is one of the last kinds of people to fall for boomer mentality in development. He just happened to already be committed to an older ongoing project.
tacit plank
Maybe VRC should make its own modules for Udon? Optimized whitelisted scripts to take care of the heavy lifting that some people are trying to do with the much slower Udon.
And it's mostly that I can't find a music-player prefab for Udon, or any way to sync spawed items. I really don't think Udon is any difficult, it's fairly easy to me but I couldn't make my own keypad with SDK2 if I tried.
I made a game of lights-out in Udon in like an hour.
Also, nice username Coffee
rough pulsar
And it's mostly that I can't find a music-player prefab for Udon
If you're wanting one for remote playback (from youtube or whatever) that ain't gonna happen for a bit yet.
Local playback (files included with world), idk, definitely possible.
tacit plank
C# -> Udon is about a 1000 times slowdown, I've heard. A "VRC_Synced_objects_bank" and "VRC_udon_video_player" included in the SDK would make more people use it.
I see, maybe people are waiting for that. I'd be fine with a local player, but like I've said, I can't find one
junior meteor
can someone help me with this
shadow hollow
does someone know i keep having "vrc time ou" something
it worked fine last day , but now i keep having this issue each 5min
brave compass
Ah toasty you still having those WMR controller problems?
shadow hollow
fuck it did it again
cosmic wind
I wish i can find the person who came to me and say y not go wish you die
brave compass
Interesting
cosmic wind
Ya tell me about it and he sound like he was stoned to
vocal shard
I can't use the menus,whenever I open it I just can't click anything
grim tusk
are you on pc , its esc button > left click
vocal shard
Im in fbt
ruby burrow
If someone tries to upset you inside VR-Chat, the most effective response is often to laugh them off and show how little they matter to you.
They're utterly powerless over you, so why worry? Chasing them or giving them an emotional reaction only legitimises their efforts and empowers them.
stray hamlet
Is anyone else experiencing slow world downloads
I reinstalled windows and now it is so slow
broken plover
I am because my internet is shit
grim tusk
If someone tries to upset you inside VR-Chat, the most effective response is often to laugh them off and show how little they matter to you.
nah they have inflated egos so wont know that, best is just block/mute and go to another world
ruby burrow
That'd be my next step, minus the go to another world thing. Why let them feel they have any power.
sterile ingot
Why do you care what they feel?
ruby burrow
But even then, I only block if I really need to, like if they're making it hard to speak to others.
It's often more satisfying to make it seem as if I've muted them, hear them comment that I've muted them, and then eventually tell them, "No, I'm just ignoring you".
And continue to ignore from that point on.
Spiteful people utterly thrive on being given attention, and showing them how meaningless they are to you hurts their egos like nothing else.
sterile ingot
I think this says more about you than them. That sounds like spite. Like you want those people to suffer. Not that they are deserving of much of your sympathy, I'd rather just ignore folks like that because they are a bother and beneath any attention as you said so yourself. I care not whether they suffer, I just assume they do because their behavior isn't conducive for making friends. They are likely always alone. I think they are more deserving of my pity than my spite.
In a perfect world, and this isn't one, those people would simply get better, not be assholes, and become your friend. Not suffer.
frosty veldt
People wont improve if they are just pitied. They should be treated the way their demeanor demands
sterile ingot
People don't change until they see in it something beneficial for themselves.
The goal isn't to change them, it's to live your own life positively. To keep your own emotions healthy. Spite isn't healthy. What does it do constructively? It just makes you mad.
Maybe it might make you feel righteous if you can get their panties in a twist and realize how easy it is for you to manipulate them, though do you want to feel that? Doesn't that make you the . . . jerk.
grim tusk
even if it doesn't make you mad, it might perpetuate a sense of self -righteousness (that you have the right to judge people heavily and make them feel bad for it) , laughing at them in mockery is falling to their level - on the whole I agree with ArchAngel here
interestingly it would be a jerk in self defence though (they were a jerk first offending you ) , eg in cases of voilence if you use violence for self defence the charges and backlash ethically and legally are lower for yourself than them ie manslaughter vs murder so that point (of them being the real jerk/manipulative) is not quite at the extent as it may seem - again I agree with you on the whole though @vocal shard this is why Im in this server, for these topics 😂
frosty veldt
It's more effort to feel sad for someone than to just brush them off or laugh at them though. Why should I feel sad for someone who is no position to illicit that emotion?
sterile ingot
This is VRChat. How many intellectuals do you run into? 😛
This is mostly about . . . wolf-boys, and mirror sitters, and effects that make VR users like myself want tp puke. 😛
grim tusk
It's more effort to feel sad for someone than to just brush them off or laugh at them though.
Im only sad for them for a second and then block them - blocking takes no effort for me, and the sad thought doesnt linger
sterile ingot
Yeah, don't live in the pity. That isn't exactly a healthy emotion to feel, though at least it serves some empathetic purpose.
brave compass
If you don’t puke on an hourly basis, your not a real VR user
grim tusk
technically spite is empathetic too and in this case even more directly relevant to the empathising notion of context (the fact that the instigator is being spiteful too) but overall I would prefer to live with pity than spite even if just for a moment
frosty veldt
Yeah as long as the emotions you feel are for a split second then it kinda boils down to your personality imo. These types of people don't deserve the attention anyways
karmic pollen
I like bees
civic merlin
I like bees too
sterile ingot
I see bees as necessary, like the sun, yet I do not like them.
In fact becoming a bee keeper at a time like today I would consider altruistic.
karmic pollen
Some kid better kill someone and say its because he was never allowed to play video games
near saffron
Why that?
vocal shard
Hello!
trail plank
So, I had this police helicoptor avatar saved into my favorites, but since it's no longer available, I can't interact with it in my menu to remove it.
brave compass
Oh yeah I got that some problem
ruby burrow
Hmm. I stepped away from discord and didn't realise the discussion would continue quite like that.
Seem to have slightly missed the chance to explain. ^ ^;
It's certainly not out of spite, though I can sort of see how it might seem contradictory. I also never said the slightest thing about continuing to laugh or mock.
It's also not about making anyone suffer, but more about not rewarding toxic attitudes.
When the first reaction is to block a troll, that is very often considered a victory for them. It can serve as validation that they got to you.
A dismissive half assed chuckle "yeah ok" whilst not showing any change of your mood, and going back to your business, is kryptonite to malicious attention seeking.
grim canopy
ruby burrow
Hopefully that explains what I was saying above better.
Targeting and actively mocking toxic people is the opposite of what I intend.
Opting to dismiss them, also gives them the chance to change to a more friendly tone, after they realise their attempts to antagonise are proving futile.
junior meteor
could someone do me a huge favour
who has an mmd converter for unity
i have a deadpool model here but need a helpful someone to convert it as i dont understand after several tutorials
ruby needle
You definitely want to pipe it trough blender
you'll need to adjust a few things and optimize some parts from a typical default MMD setup
there is many tutorials out ther efor blender and the cats plugin for it.
vocal shard
I changed my Display Name is it possible to change Account Name? Using my old one is confusing me
karmic pollen
Some kid better kill someone and say its because he was never allowed to play video games
@karmic pollen parents cant say videogames cause violence if someone kills because he didnt have them
drifting field
Hey umm... So lately I've been afraid of VRChat and I hate that. Does anyone feel like helping me restore my faith? Where did all the nice and respectful people go?
plush plover
Honestly
broken plover
theyre all in friends+ worlds
I recently met someone who has friends of friends that are only in those worlds and now I met more nice and respectful people
outer fractal
it's the internet there will always be trolls and such you just gotta find your niche.
-- coming from someone who just tried vrchat yesterday for the first time
languid pebble
y'all think its reasonable to have a shitty vr headset using phone and joycon controllers? itll be like $16 in total TwT i just wanna get into VR but im super broke
untold holly
Can I post some specs and ask if they're okay for max settings in crowded worlds?
night ingot
dm me im bored
serene mulch
So i found a girl called SharleenChan who says that she is on the support team on vrchat, Is this true thats she is in this team?
vocal shard
no
serene mulch
she was saying that her 'boss' was gonna ban me in 24 hours just cause i had an argument with a salty trusted user X)
rough prism
umm wtf is vrc rn
jolly trout
lol
rough prism
nvm it fixed it self, for some reason every time i stood still my avatar would just walk off and it freaked me the hell out
grim tusk
she was saying that her 'boss' was gonna ban me in 24 hours just cause i had an argument with a salty trusted user X)
read that as "salted trusted user" and thought it was a vrchat dish 👀
serene mulch
LOL
dapper coral
She's not even Trusted User
grim tusk
Im not even trusted either 
vocal shard
Can you trust them tho?
hollow kiln
Blub blub blub
grim tusk
Can you trust them tho?
I only trust known users
soft lava
I need help... my vrc is using the bindings for my index controllers even though im using my vive controllers rn... anyone know how to fix?
cold knot
anyone else have updated recently and new bugged in vrchat? its been stuck on the same stuff for like 3-4 days now or so
oh and im apparently missing the first row of saved worlds x-x
last mist
@ruby burrow thanks for the advice
hollow kiln
:(
vital brook
yeah, nobody asked for our bindings to be changed. switch it back.
hollow kiln
Oh gawd, are the bindings poopy now?
vital brook
For wmr at least, which were absolutely fine and working for 3 years before they changed them.
vocal shard
I just don’t like how the new menu system is binded to both controllers
hollow kiln
Do you guys know if the Index bindings have changed?
quiet mica
that would be in the Announcements tab @hollow kiln
vital brook
We have published default bindings for Valve Index, Oculus Touch, Windows Mixed Reality, and Vive Wands to the SteamVR platform.
vital brook
If it doesn't break your controller bindings then I wouldn't worry, but for someone like me, i have to change from the default.
grim tusk
Back in my day it was only 5 seconds
mellow palm
does anybody else also have issues with the video players in worlds?
Like they just bug out
and then dont work
its happening so frequently
jolly trout
Ye I think everyone does
solid plaza
Hi everybody im new here
whole rapids
just me that cant remove avatars from favorites that is removed? i legit havrnt been able to remove 2 for 3 weeks soon..
whole rapids
Its getting really annoying
civic merlin
No u
prime grove
vocal shard
hm?
serene mulch
Has anyone done any research on that person who thought they were mod
vocal shard
Hmm?
@serene mulch send a report into the mod team from the link in #moderation-reports
Mod impersonation should be dealt with