And be all alone
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
hola
cold talon
๐
Also wdym "don't be me" every time you are in private you are with svel 
Irl is public, just get out of yer room, but watch out for crashers
grim moon
It's good that we can go to public worlds then lol
Irl is public, just get out of yer room, but watch out for crashers
@cold talon My irl public crashes way too easily
indigo fern
cold talon
Gotta make sure the avatars are behaving perfectly for when going in publics ๐ณ
grim moon
When I see a single brush in any world I get out as fast as I can
cold talon
๐ so you won't stay to see me
maiden mirage
the brushes are always children
modern harbor
The only brushes I like are Hammer brushes.
grim moon
I don't wanna talk to people under 15 on vrchat and all the brushes are like 12 lol
modern harbor
I'm -1.
grim moon
Thank god this isn't vrchat then
Huh?
Somebody said something about block and report and just deleted it
cold talon
Huh, guess we will never know
grim moon
xelixil is above your message
@inner cape
What do you mean lol
wanton matrix
๐
grim moon
Ahhh
cold talon
That's a 5G move right there
barren plover
grim tusk
Welcome enjoy your stay
vocal shard
Hey, does anyone want to play together? ๐
spice anvil
Does anyone have a genji avatar from overwatch
scenic hedge
?
vocal shard
๐ฅณ
vocal shard
Whenever there's an update or something, the chat absolutely floods
smoky swan
lol
vocal shard
smoky swan
tea going off
vocal shard
I don't recall that ever being a thing. Whenever someone would use an unsupported character, it would appear as a question mark
vocal shard
Usually a false ban evasion is flagged if you upload something on someone else's account for them. Or visa versa. Or using the same IP as someone banned
Since that's an automated system
silk badger
hi how change character on pc pls am dumb pls
vocal shard
Not really
silk badger
ok
smoky swan
that foot looks so crusty
smoky swan
lmao
silk badger
me
rugged lynx
oo bloody foot
smoky swan
it's not bloody looking just crusty looking
vocal shard
@silk badger open your menu in game and open the avatars tab. Or you can go to avatar worlds and click on avatars there
vocal shard
Then open the world's tab and search under avatar world's
vocal shard
What?
polar badge
I have a really weird question about VR.. Is there any way to just have tracking without the ~immersive headset experience~? I'm really new. Not super interested in having a headset (and can't really afford it), so is there a way that I can track my movements without using.. well, a headset? Thanks so much :D
Essentially I'd like to actually be able to wave at people but I'm perfectly happy with using a regular monitor LOL.
old swallow
use driver4vr with TVR
ruby frigate
Something up, me and group of friends all got booted
old swallow
still in alpha but its the closest thing you can get
vocal shard
Nothing official. Some have made third party programs like driver4vr which try to simulate arm movements. It works, but still isn't comparable to a proper 6dof controller experience
polar badge
still in alpha but its the closest thing you can get
@old swallow Hey, thanks! :D
I'm a super casual player so I don't think it would make much sense to get a whole headset thing going..
old swallow
yeah
its super broken and i would use it for games like beat saber
vrchat is better with headset
vocal shard
It's really one of those things that changes the whole experience if you do have a headset. Can't really explain without trying it. But until then, gotta make the best of a situation
old swallow
indeed
polar badge
Yeah, that makes sense :( I wonder if there's anything in a more affordable range in terms of a headset..
old swallow
use a phone and a phone mount for "virtual reality"
vocal shard
There used to be. I used to use a Lenovo windows mixed really system for a couple years. It was $200, but unfortunately they went out of production because people were too negative about them. Elitests were so focused on Vive and Rift, and trashed the cheap WMR competition. Even though some aspects of them were better
polar badge
Aw man, that's a shame D: Yeah, I can't excuse spending like.. as much as I spent on my PC.. LOL
old swallow
vr is just expensive
sadly
polar badge
I think I've got an old 360 kinect somewhere, but it looks like that tends to be used with a headset anyway?
vocal shard
So yeah, right now the cheapest options are around the $400 mark
polar badge
Yep yup :( Thank you anyhow though! :D
vocal shard
Hoping for some new cheaper competition. It's already been proven it can be done. just need a name behind it that people actually respect
polar badge
That's this guy, yeah? https://www.amazon.com.au/Oculus-Quest-All-Gaming-Headset/dp/B07HNW68ZC/
vocal shard
Well you can still get a Samsung Odyssey+ for around $250 sometimes, but thats only during sales
old swallow
true
odd blaze
without a pc thats the cheapest, but eeh you are going to miss out , same price as a Rift s
old swallow
missing out?
boi
polar badge
I was wondering if it'd be cheaper using a PC; my pc runs vrchat super well, so i'm not fussed about getting a standalone system..
odd blaze
quest is a potato ,cant do most shaders used
odd blaze
That means you have a pc
old swallow
oh yeah i forgot some people dont have pc xD
the sign that i got used to pc masterrace
vocal shard
Yeah, for many, the quest stand alone is all the have
Quest on PC is alright, but not my preference
Don't like the pentile pixels
old swallow
hm
well it was the only way at the time for me to get in vr
maybe if i have the money later i could purchase index
vocal shard
Cool
Tbh, I would probably go with a reverb myself. For sim racing clarity
I am using a phone with a vr headset with nintendo controllers
vocal shard
Yeah, that's why I made a video about my complaints with the controllers.
polar badge
I am using a phone with a vr headset with nintendo controllers
@vocal shard Joycons? .o.
vocal shard
@polar badge yes
Although the wmr battery issue can be helped with 1.6v aa batteries. I switched and my wmr controllers started tracking more accurately and the batteries lasted a few days at a time.
With normal 1.2v aa rechargables, they would run under voltage and die within hours
old swallow
Driver4VR is godlike
polar badge
@polar badge yes
@vocal shard Hey, sweet! That actually sounds do-able..
odd blaze
Rift S controller is the right way for camera tracking not another led lightshow
dawn rune
I have a friend who uses the wii remotes in vr
vocal shard
Yeah, I'm quite happy with rift s and quest controllers
@polar badge Beatsaber and vrchat works with them
and those are the main games I play
dawn rune
And by wii remotes, I mean wii remote and nunchuk
polar badge
I don't think I'd be playing anything else, so that's really cool actually.. May I ask how you set up your phone with it?
vocal shard
@polar badge riftcat on your pc, usb cable or wifi connected to your phone and if you use wifi your pc and phone have to be on the same wifi
get vridge on your phone and open it when you open riftcat
and then connect a controller
or you can downlad ivry on your pc and phone
open ivry on your phone and then open steamvr
and play
polar badge
Oh, sick. That's awesome, thanks so much :) I'll have to see if I can get everything to connect to everything, but that sounds super promising!
old swallow
oh
one thing
if you want to use driver4vr
you have to pay for it
polar badge
One time or subscription?
odd blaze
one time, sometimes on sale
polar badge
Thank god lol, sweet : D
old swallow
woops
polar badge
@polar badge riftcat on your pc, usb cable or wifi connected to your phone and if you use wifi your pc and phone have to be on the same wifi
@vocal shard Hey, sorry to tag you and ask so many questions, but do you have any reccs for a phone headset?
vocal shard
@polar badge What phone do you have?
polar badge
Iphone 7 (with a kind of big case if that matters >_>)!
vocal shard
veer falcon vr headset with controller and take off the case if you can
polar badge
Sweet, thank you!
vocal shard
Also clean your phone to have a better experience
@polar badge I found a cracked version of driver4vr Iโm not sure where I got it from but might want to try and find it
Iโll find it when I wake up and send u if you want
polar badge
Oh thank you!!
inner cosmos
Hey anybody looking to hang out on VRC sometime DM me, I'm nice (also I'm 15 hope that's not an issue)
warped goblet
How's it hanging in here?
tranquil whale
Is there a asuna yukki with a sword cuz i cant find anything asuna
formal rose
vocal shard
Someone want play lol
Im can talk in english, portuguese or chinese (mandarin) and need friends lol
Nayazoo my nicknamw
Nickname*
warped goblet
Pretty intelligent there!
vocal shard
Oh i like doki doki too!
warped goblet
Cool! Who's your favorite?
warped goblet
My favorite happens to be from a mod
If an act 2 Yuri gained sentience, might be interesting... but other than that idea, I like the Bun!
lament zinc
Quick q out of curiosity. How do you remove the FPS cap/limiter that ensures that the fps stay around the same number? I'm on desktop, so I'm not worried about getting sick quite yet.
warped goblet
That sounds like a GPU setting to me.
lament zinc
It isn't.
It works perfectly on the majority of different games, other than Overwatch
warped goblet
Is it vertical refresh maybe?
lament zinc
Shrugs
I'm not use to having a Nvidia GPU tbh
Though I did check the settings for fps lock, which is off.
warped goblet
If it isn't that then it's vertical refresh
turn it off and it shouldn't limit the fps
having vertical refresh on caps it at 60
broken plover
In steam properties add the launch argument โfps=newnumber
(Example โfps=240)
lost quiver
I need help
ever since I started vrchat I've noticed many video players, and I really like them
except for the problem that not once have I heard their sound, I've redownloaded the cache three times, one even specifically to enter a world with a video player and still nothing
I've talked to others users and apperantly it just worked for them, I wanna know what I can do to fix this
also I reinstalled vrchat itself and that did nothing
this effectively locks me out of karaoke and I REALLY want to karaoke
and sitting down to watch videos with friends too
flint socket
Watching vids with friends is op I love it
lost quiver
oh wait this is the wrong channel
fossil dagger
btw I'm not sure if this is true or not but I've heard things about "The banning of all nsfw models" which is ill-advised because if my data is correct that's like 70% of the players that are trusted on VRChat use nsfw models. If this is the case i hope your ready to destroy the VRChat social community because everyone is going to leave your game Admins and creator of VRChat
jolly heron
facts
vocal shard
cool
it was always banned
it's in the rules and in the TOS that you agreed on when you start playing the game
jolly heron
oh fr KFHDJA
fossil dagger
and if someone is paying you to do this, well money over community is not going to work out for VRChat your going to kill your game
honest snow
NSFW wasn't banned, it wasn't allowed in public worlds but they never banned it, hence the reason NSFW tags exist when uploading models and that one loading screen that says to only use NSFW stuff in private worlds
fossil dagger
and dont run your mouth about TOS to me it states that any nsfw model with nsfw tag is ONLY allowed in private worlds
@vocal shard
deft girder
NSFW content has always been against TOS and will get you a ban if you get reported for it
honest snow
Nsfw based stuff is such a big part of vrchat behind closed doors in private worlds, vrchat boutta go the same way tumblr did
fossil dagger
not if your in a private world
deft girder
Yeah if you are in a private world you most likely won't get reported for it but that doesn't mean that it's not against the TOS
fossil dagger
your arguing with someone with avatar creating experience
deft girder
๐
sacred quest
Definitely gonna report that right now lol
vocal shard
the tag when you upload doesnt do anything, including the nsfw tag
fossil dagger
its still there
sacred quest
I had the pleasure of being verbally abused by someone for disrupting their NSFW scene by accident, and then advertising that they are an "video actor" online and started showing people their links and everything and so much of it all in a public world.
honest snow
So long as it wasn't streamed or shared from private worlds it was fine, says right on that loading screen
vocal shard
nsfw avatars are tolerated in private, as long as it stays in private (meaning no streaming)
if you use nsfw stuff in public, don't be surprised if you get banned, that was always the case.
sacred quest
Yeppers.
honest snow
@deft girder
zenith idol
i love erping uwu
deft girder
@honest snow doesn't change what I said if someone reports you, you will still get banned private world or noto
olive dawn
Please help
honest snow
How'd u figure that
olive dawn
my vrchat said incorect parameters
wut the heck does that mean can't we make our own pass?
honest snow
So long as the logs say ur in a private world the report will be dismissed
fossil dagger
also nsfw avatars have a feature where it hides the nsfw parts so if you start banning people over it, there will be a revolt against vrchat and i would expect people to start trying to ddos the game more frequently and eventually kill it because whats going on here is not fair to that 70% of trusted users
honest snow
General chat isnt the place to make support requests @olive dawn
void blade
tried steam client, same issue, happen more often with certain mirrors
void blade
vrchat freeze like hell
was working fine like some months ago
also i was in a simple map ALONE with only mirror
and keep to frezzing, if i have a mirror enabled
i got geforce GTX 1070 SLI
deft girder
@honest snow
https://www.vrchat.com/community-guidelines
Under "Inappropriate Content"
"Pornography & nudity is not allowed." and that's a period it doesn't matter what kind of instance you are in. I'm not gonna bother arguing about this further.
fossil dagger
support goes in SUPORT Channel
olive dawn
you mean #user-support-old ?
fossil dagger
Good because no one asked you non admin
olive dawn
we need support here cause this is the only channel that is not dead
fossil dagger
so don't argue it @deft girder
olive dawn
lel
fossil dagger
also banning it is not going to stop people because you would have to ban the majority of vrc so have fun with your dead game or about to be
vocal shard
The wording was a bit confusing to some. But when asking the devs, the official word is that yes, nudity is not allowed anywhere
honest snow
'Live-streaming, advertising or** publicly **sharing content that is sexually explicit in nature or simulates sex acts is not permitted. '
fossil dagger
well tell the devs there about to kill the game
vocal shard
This isn't anything new
fossil dagger
because thats whats going to happen
and also its not going to stop the people from doing it
vocal shard
And they have every right to have those rules for a social game, rated 13+
olive dawn
can anybody help me in #user-support-old
honest snow
why make a loading screen saying to keep it to private worlds, if its bannable there aswell
vocal shard
The loading screen never says it's alright in private
next cypress
someone, please help me quick.
vocal shard
The loading screen says not to have anything in public, but never says anything about private
next cypress
How do I play with keyboard and mouse while wearing my vr headset?
My controllers ran out of battery...
fossil dagger
im well aware
honest snow
dmd it to you
fossil dagger
please go to User support
vocal shard
Do you have an Xbox controller? That works with just the headset.
VR and keyboard and mouse used to work well, but they changed it a while back so it doesn't take control of your mouse
fossil dagger
And @vocal shard i under stand but i think not all nsfw models should be banned because a lot of them are hiding the nsfw if you know what i mean
fossil dagger
stop I-Swaggy
vocal shard
I'm not great with tech support 
I don't know what you're talking about.
fossil dagger
its no different than wearing clothes irl
devout cedar
I have never understood why they are so against any adult content.
All they need to do is have the API with a Nudity clause that will only show the default robot avatar to anyone that does not OPT-in to see adult content.
fossil dagger
exactly
vocal shard
Because this is not an adult game. It's 13+, and backed by investors
devout cedar
Similiar to what the quest displays when viewing models with too many triangles or materials
misty crypt
does anyone know about blocking vs unfriending. Ie, is there inheritance. Does blocking someone remove them from your friend list or vice versa, and what effect does it have on online/offline status. Or does blocking simply hide/mute the avatar, effectively.
vocal shard
If they make this some sort of adult, 18+ game, they'll likely loose funding, and also cut out a huge demographic. Also the game reputation would be worse
devout cedar
I understand the reason why, its just that its an issue that is easy fixed
fossil dagger
which is more important the community or you investors
vocal shard
Blocking just hides them and mutes them
misty crypt
Ok
vocal shard
because they don't want their game to be a porn game.
misty crypt
Here's an idea, want a porn vr game? go find some investors.. make a ton of money.. instead of arguing it here..
"build your own castle rather than knocking others down"
vocal shard
I would leave if that's what the game became. I'm here for the creativity, friendly community, and amazing things to experience with friends around the world
Some 18+ game for people to get off on... I wouldn't support that
i'm here to take panty shots
Well I chose an... interesting time to join. Uh, what channel would I go to, to ask about controls triggering emotes?
Oculus touch controls?
Rift S, but according to Steam, Oculus Touch
Yeah, that's what they are
Ahh, that explains it
You need to keep your index and middle finger touching their triggers while you move around with the thumbstick. The controllers try to sense your real hand gestures, so having your fingers lightly touching the stick and triggers at the same time is the neutral emote.
Soon we're getting a new system called Avatars 3.0, and with this you will also be able to toggle emotes on or off
Ohhh, okay. I hope that's incredibly soon then. Apparently there's no other workaround for it
At least, not from what I've tried
misty crypt
It'd be nice to toggle controllers off all together so when i'm sitting down/chilling i dont have to have my arms up in the air
'pause motion' mode
devout cedar
Avatars 3.0 looks pretty good. The menu system is nice
vocal shard
Its currently in open beta
So exited
Wait is that part of the open beta now, or soonโข? ๐
It's in the open beta now. So it should be on the live branch pretty soon
Aaaand immediately going to my PC
Well, you can't use it on the normal servers until it goes live. It's just in the open beta if you want to try it
gaunt mango
e
vocal shard
Aww. Well at least it's a thing that's being worked on
Yeah. The whole new avatar system works well. One of the biggest updates for avatar creators imo
lilac sparrow
i have as much courage booting up vrchat as when im forced to talk to somebody at school
vocal shard
So does that mean I can have a setting where my avatar's arms won't extend longer to match my IRL arms??
Probably. There's a lot of possibilities. People have made things that allow them to scale their avatars, have inventory for props and clothes, change colours, and some really advanced stuff that I don't understand yet how it works
It basically adds a level of scripting to avatar creation
Dang, I hope so. VR is weird when it comes to my arm length compared to a character ๐
A lot of that is due to the character proportions
lilac sparrow
i always wanted to make my own avatar but i wouldnt be able to show it off because im too nervous going into public worlds
vocal shard
Awe
Aww
You can do it
It might take some time
But I've seen a lot build courage through vrchat
I'm still nervous sometimes as well, otherwise I'd end up in a corner in VRC ๐
lilac sparrow
yeah i guess so
vocal shard
Depends on the world, mainly
lilac sparrow
when i first started i got lucky because someone wanted to be my friend for some reason, i need to be with them if i wanna go anywhere with people lmao
warped goblet
You guys are nervous in a virtual chat room? How are y'all in real life then? ๐ฎ
vocal shard
Well I haven't left my house consistently since March soooo
lilac sparrow
terrible, thats why vrchat
warped goblet
What's there to be nervous about? Do you not like who you are?
Not trying to be rude, just genuinely curious
lilac sparrow
i dunno i guess im afraid of some other people
vocal shard
Anxiety is hard to explain
lilac sparrow
i originally wanted to join to make some friends but damn thats tough
vocal shard
For me, I try to make irl friends but I'm usually the one who starts convos and stuff. I end up staying in my own bubble for both choice and fear of bothering anyone
It's like, I don't have a fear of people, and am quite confident in myself. But when it comes to conversation, it feels like I'm suffocating
Well, not "fear" but- yeah kinda that ^
warped goblet
Try asking deeper questions
vocal shard
I would do that but I'm like "I don't want to make them uncomfortable or cross boundaries aaahhh"
lilac sparrow
hah i remember this one guy was pretending i was the bartender in the pug because i was exploring and instead of saying anything i just gave him my creepiest smile
even if he couldnt see it im still ashamed
warped goblet
Don't worry about how other people react
Don't be careless either, but don't get so pent up you never get out what you're thinking
lilac sparrow
he was nice about it, thank you milk man
vocal shard
I find it more annoying than anything now. I want to have a conversation with someone. But most of the time, it's like my vocal cords tense up to the point I can't talk. And I just get pissed 
I've never known someone that has that kind of a reaction, honestly ๐ค
The brain is weird many times, apparently
warped goblet
Sounds like you're very anxious
I have a therapy world for that, I used the home kit and made it myself ๐
lilac sparrow
i have a lot of movies i wanna watch, so im interested in that movie world
i hope it works if your by yourself
warped goblet
I prefer anime myself
vocal shard
Oh I've been meaning to watch Into the Spider-Verse for months
warped goblet
It's been in labs for like 5 months lol
lilac sparrow
damn have i really been doing nothing for half a year?
warped goblet
I didn't care, I just wanted to get the 100 avatar two world goal for trusted user
warped goblet
I already got trusted 5 months or so ago lol
That way I can sometimes hide from people that don't change their default safety settings, mwahaha ๐
vocal shard
Sneaky
warped goblet
Now it's gone quiet
vocal shard
Question actually :P
warped goblet
?
vocal shard
VRC is currently running on AV2 for avatars, right?
Yeah
Sweeet. So I won't have to worry about changing much when AV3 is fully out?
warped goblet
As long as I can keep my Michael Jackson avatar I'm happy
Well it's not mine but it came from this world I forgot
vocal shard
All of the moonwalking
Avatars 3.0 is a new way everything gets uploaded.
2.0 avatars will still work normally and have the circle quick menu as well. But from here on, 2.0 will be more like on long term support. While 3.0 gets updates and new features
Seems pretty understandable. Now I definitely need to get an Index beforehand ๐
warped goblet
I'm not too worried about new avatars. I find the people more enjoyable
vocal shard
I'm just waiting for the flame to start 
An update that changes avatar creation enough that almost everyone will have to relearn... It's gonna be busy here for a while
I figured it's a good way to be fluffy without having to... spend.. $2k on a fursuit... instead $1k on what's essentially a digital fursuit... hmmmm
I may have to rethink my life choices here :P
It has more uses. Better investment 
And yeah, I imagine you'll get more immersion in VR than a suit anyway
vocal shard
It has more uses. Better investment :SataniaThumbsUp:
And I won't have to wash it!
Default, not much. But now it's possible to make a control to move your arms on desktop
vocal shard
Oooooh
warped goblet
Might be wonky at first
vocal shard
I just thought of something. arm movements when speaking, virtual TedTalk confirmed!! :P
Here's an example
https://youtu.be/d1ZO33ptU44
That menu looks so cleaaannn
warped goblet
I guess can't move the left arm?
vocal shard
You can do whatever you want if you know how to use the new SDK.
That was just a quick demo I made. Next time I'll make one with a bit more finesse. With the arm bending and such
But yeah, you can move the arms independently if you build a control system for it
warped goblet
I don't know anything about making avatars, I just uploaded ones already made
vocal shard
There will be prefabs made
Yeah, the canny was attacked yesterday by spam bots
They posted like 40k spam posts
wary hollow
Says login with G suit then @steep rover.com login in fails says you are not in your company email.
Aha isee
alright that explains it
vocal shard
So they locked it while cleaning up
vocal shard
wary hollow
๐
warped goblet
Where are the shy people I was talking to, lol
vocal shard
wary hollow
No one seems to know
warped goblet
Ah lol
vocal shard
Speaking of failed login attempts on VRC, why the heck does it take my email and not my username >->
warped goblet
Weird
vocal shard
Yeah, I dunno either. Really weird since I thought I got banned or something
Ah lol
Just trying to find jobs and such at the moment. Totally not stressed ๐
Have you changed your username?
Nope
Weird
Well, yeah, but I'm not sure if it takes the old username for... whatever reason
Actually I don't think I changed it, I'm sure of it ๐ค
warped goblet
When I upgraded from Steam account I had to change my username
vocal shard
It always uses the first username of the account for logging in
warped goblet
and then merge them
vocal shard
It always uses the first username of the account for logging in
That's... strange
warped goblet
I just logged in now, hmm
vocal shard
Not really. The username on account creation is the one that identifies the account, and any changes is more like a nickname. Even if you change your name, it still shows the original one as well on the website
Thaaat seems more confusing than it should be to me. Maybe a bit counter-productive? I'm not sure. I'm just used to logging in with updated usernames (and it's 2 AM so I'm slightly tired)
vocal shard
what's confusing about it ?
you have an account name and an in-game name
you change your in-game name with the website
the account name is always the same
can you not ?
I'm just used to things like Rockstar's Social Club or Twitter having you log in with your new username instead of the original one. Although I can kinda see it now, it's like Steam's login stuff
because they actually change the account name
vrchat only change your displayed name
i think LoL has the same system
account name is always the same but you can change your name in-game to whatever you want
Yeahh, now it's starting to make sense now that I thought of how Steam is
lmao its time to speedrun getting soft banned in vrchat
I'm just glad we can change names. Unlike reddit 
Forever stuck with a username I don't like
What's a "Reddit"? /s
sup
its over
why that name jamie
I really don't remember. It was like from some stupid animation back when I played tf2 a tonne
olive dawn
Guys is vrchat going crazy or hwat?
Im from Malaysia and my internet is fine it is not lagging like crazy
why is the recovery thing always says :incorrect parameters
now it is saying i tried to many recovery what the heck is this machine thinking
once i did recover my acc but when i put in the pass it wont accept it
i just copied that from the other channel cause im too lazy to type all of that
anybody?
why i can't dm the vrchat team?
i really need help
olive dawn
can anybody answer me
please is the browser or the link in east asia lagging or what?
vocal shard
@olive dawn stop asking in every channel. It's all the same people. If you need to, you can send in a support ticket to the vrchat team #vrchat-support
btw to create avatars do i need to pay for something?
blissful matrix
#vrchat-general-2 is going into lockdown in 2 minutes.
vocal shard
o no
visual citrus
paper heron
why cant one of my friends load avatars when he has 8 mb/s download. I know its not great but he cant load any and Im confused why
alpine parcel
is his hard drive full
nova abyss
Newsense*
vocal shard
how old are you
paper heron
100% 13
vocal shard
very sad if that's true
polar badge
I hope it's okay to ask here, but what would you folks recommend as the best budget VR headset? ;_;
Sweet, thanks :D Is vr capable just determined by graphics card/processor power/memory?
polar badge
Cool! Mine should be okay :) It's been running VRchat really well (except for some lag spikes, but they seem to be experienced by everyone in the world when they happen)
vocal shard
running VR + VRChat at the same time is fairly demanding
be sure it can run both at the same time
polar badge
Would you say an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 would be okay? .o.
wary pine
@polar badge
new: rift s or quest, which you can now connect to pc with included charging cable.
used: as long as you understand that they do not have warranty and you need to diy your own fixes if stuff breaks (there are forums to help tho, and I do happen to have rift cv1 spare parts for sale) - rift or vive.
in my opinion at the very end of that generation when the prices were comparable to rift s / quest, those headsets were better in many ways. I still think the rift is the best overall package out of the box aside from the index and higher end headsets, and the vive gives you compatibility within the steamvr ecosystem so you can use full body trackers natively, upgrade controllers later on, etc.
as long as it's not the cosmos... that thing's horrible. Mixed reality headsets are better than nothing when they're all you can afford, but again better to save and get at least a used rift if that's the case
I own/have owned rift, vive, vive pro + wireless, index, odyssey+ and quest, so my info on other headsets are second hand info but I've done my research.
polar badge
Oh cool, i have that downloading atm!
wary pine
and what system specs do you have? I could let you know how vrchat in vr will run on your system ^w^
polar badge
OH my gosh that's awesome, thanks so much for all of the info!! ;_; I'm curious about full-body tracking in the future but not entirely sure (and, of course, still on a budget) - my system has the AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 16gb ram, and Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 GPU
vocal shard
XD
wary pine
no problem, I love talking about vr tech ^^ you can use full body tracking with non steamvr headsets if you buy the base stations too and use third party software to use them together, however can't say I recommend that, the software to make them work doesn't always work well in my experience and the base stations are an expensive extra cost.
vrchat will run in vr on your system. you maybe have to have lower supersampling, adjust your safety settings and may still struggle a bit in worlds with lots of people but it will certainly run
polar badge
Sweeeeet, thank you! What would you say is the greatest point of limitation there out of curiosity? .o. (Also I can definitely agree from an outsider perspective >_> The base stations look pretty pricey..)
wary pine
the 1660 would be the bottleneck in your case. what frequency does your 3600 run at?
polar badge
I actually don't know on frequency to be honest with you LOL, but ahh, that makes sense D: Shame about that since the damn thing is like a brick
vocal shard
<@&397642795457970181> can you warn this ora kid please ? he already got kicked once for it
wasted years
polar badge
if you wanted fbt getting a rift s would be quite a set back
@inner cape So the vive is better there to be clear? :(
wary pine
yeah problem is, all steamvr headsets you can buy new now are pricey. vive pro, index, pimax stuff, cosmos elite (ugh) I'd say it wouldn't be the worse thing in today's market to not mind full body compatibility at first and if you want fbt later on buy another headset if you can and sell your old one
yeah if you really want full body and you don't have the budget for a more expensive headset definitely a vive.
polar badge
Ohhh fair enough, argg.. What's the exact model on the vive, sorry?
wary pine
it's just call the vive, or vive ce as in consumer edition, there's different revisions but they're sold as the same product
polar badge
So far (in Australia) the difference looks like about $400 Q_Q
vocal shard
rip your budget
polar badge
YEAH. YEAH
wary pine
pimax has the artisan which looks cheap but that's just the headset, get the base stations and controllers and it's not as cheap, plus I haven't tried a pimax product but have heard very mixed opinions on them
polar badge
I literally cannot have ANY hobbies ANKSHNFD
vocal shard
i mean, you can go hiking
polar badge
I wonder if there's anything more.. uhh.. exclusively affordable in Australia?
vocal shard
don't have to pay anything to walk
wary pine
well I'm in new zealand so... ^^; had to jump through hoops to get that index but god I love it
polar badge
In Australia..
wary pine
pretty sure I'm the first index owner in nz back in last year lol
polar badge
Good gravy, congrats hahaha!
wary pine
ty ^^
polar badge
The rift S is abouttt $650AU here, whereas the price I can find for the HTC (?) vive is around $950..
Thank you.. I wanted to do sewing but I can't even get fabric imported for a decent price
wary pine
had to paypal a friend in american to order it, send it to a service that then shipped it to me :p
aww
can you get a vive new?
polar badge
Looks to be $1,300 here..
wary pine
$950 sounds about right for a new vive in nz/au, used ones should deff be cheaper
polar badge
I wonder if I can find a used one in Australia! I've been finding a few from the US but they're auctions and already up there :(
wary pine
yeah you might, my friend did find a super good deal on a vive pro headset in australia
polar badge
Ooh! I'm curious.. I'm seeing some sell them for pretty cheap HMD only, but I imagine that adds up..
wary pine
a good condition rift might be a cheaper option, it's a really good headset out of the box imo
yeah you'd have to get base stations and controllers and those aren't cheap
polar badge
I'm definitely seeing more in favour of the vive now that I'm lookin'..
but it does sound like the rift is more.. accessible?
wary pine
personally I think it's underrated compared to say a rift s, I can go into a bit of detail on why I think that
polar badge
Happy to hear it!
(Also - would vive or vive pro be better? I don't really know what the difference is ;_;'')
wary pine
the rift is lighter than the rift s and has a headstrap design that would be more comfortable to more people, including me. the audio is much better with on ear headphones compared to speakers, the mic is better and doesn't run into bandwidth issues that causes the infamous rift s robot voice glitch. the tracking volume is wider, meaning accurate tracking in more situations - hand resting by your side, right behind your head etc. as a game where you're not always being active and as a game with mirrors it can be pretty noticeable in vrc. when I had my quest I did not find the tracking satisfactory for my level of play on beat saber and pavlov either.
the controllers are just a little more ergonomic than the rift s ones, and even as an index owner I consider them the best controllers in the industry aside from individual finger tracking.
the vive pro had a different headstrap design - deff more comfortable than stock vive strap (I mean, anything is, DAS is almost mandatory imo) but to me about the same as the vive with DAS (deluxe audio strap) although less stable on the head. the resolution is higher, though you can still see screen door effect unlike the index thanks to the pixel arrangement. it's blue... that's about it. headphones sound same as DAS headphones (average quality, less than rift and definitely index but better than quest/rift s) mic still sounds as bad as the vive despite advertising dual mics. imo not worth it unless not too much more than a vive
polar badge
Hmm.. man, it's tricky - I guess i have to figure out is fbt is worth the additional $400?
vocal shard
play the game in vr first and then decide if it's worth it
wary pine
also I still don't get why people would have a problem with outside in tracking if you're planning to actually use vr a fair amount and don't move living places a lot. I guess inside out is more convenient for a super casual user? but it's definitely got tracking volume drawbacks and the main reasons manufactures are going towards is now is cost
yeah I would agree with svel since it's not cheap. personally I find it does a lot for immersion. I find it super weird now when I go in half body and recline back and don't see my legs stretched out in front of me, or stand in front of a mirror and don't see my stance being accurate, and don't get me started on the difference it makes for dancing
polar badge
Dancing is kind of what sold me on VR in general, so I'm certainly conflicted! >_>
Oh - out of curiosity, you mentioned individual finger tracking; which of these can and can't do that? (or is it less black-and-white?)
wary pine
ooh if you want to dance you'd definitely not feel great when you can see your friends move their feet and hips but not you.. and I can tell you from experience that the kinect tracking isn't great for dancing if you're considering that
vocal shard
only index got that for now i believe
wary pine
only the index controllers can track individual fingers, but I'd say the rift/rift s/quest controllers give you a decent and somewhat immersive translation of your gesture from real life to vrchat
since to point, you press in the grip button let go of the trigger and rest your finger on the top of the controller, allowing you to point irl, etc
now index finger tracking is great because it allows you to actually control your fingers, usually either one out of ok hand and middle finger is mapped onto an avatar's gesture for example, but you can do both and a lot more with index. however it's not perfect, the tracking can be a little off. personally my biggest problem with the index controllers are the lack of physical grip buttons. with the force sensing grip button, sometimes I pick up things without meaning to and sometimes when I try to pick up something it's difficult, and it slows down my reload time in pavlov too.
in my own ideal world I'd actually have a rift like controller for steamvr to use with my Index HMD (or better yet index and full body using the rift's constellation system, unpopular opinion of mine since most people actually favour steamvr tracking, I'd argue most people didn't take their time to learn to optimize constellation tracking :p) and if they can add finger tracking on top of that, that's a neat bonus
vocal shard
rift s
polar badge
Can you.. out of curiosity, basically manhandle a kinect into doing the fbt part?
quasi phoenix
Hello
wary pine
hard choice, they're similar, I've only used the quest, not the rift s. the quest is less comfortable out of the box because there's more weight in front and the headstrap doesn't support that weight that well. but you can diy fit the vive deluxe audio strap with 3d printed adaptors, then it should be as comfortable or more comfortable than rift s. the rift is should have a bit better tracking in theory because it has 1 extra camera, but the camera setups are different and I can't confirm that. the quest has a lower refresh rate (72 vs 80 on the rift s) the quest has a higher resolution, but connected to pc the render resolution should be about the same. the quest has an oled screen which has better contrast.
overall a rift s might be a slightly better pc headset but the quest can also play standalone games. so if you are away from pc you can still use it. if that appeals to you probably get a quest
wary pine
yes there is 3rd party software to use a kinect with pc adaptor to simulate vive trackers.. it's not that great back when I used it, I heard they may have improved it but I still wouldn't count on it being even half decent
np I got some time and like talking tech ๐
vocal shard
i used the kinect
can NOT recommend it
actual trash with way too many variables to make it work properly
it's garbage even for basic tracking
wary pine
yeah same experience ^^;
polar badge
Daaang :( I wonder what the cheapest but still passable fbt is, then.. arggg..
wary pine
vive trackers, really.. people have tried both versions of the kinect, nolo, katvr, nothing really comes close to doing as great a job
polar badge
Hum hum..
Say, if it's not too pushy a question, can I ask in what $ range your aussie friend got the vive at? .o.
wary pine
seeing as steamvr (at least 1.0, dunno about 2.0) is open source, I'm pretty surprised that no one make their own cheaper steamvr tracker after all this time
polar badge
Honestly?? I'm so floored it's not more affordable/accessible!
It's one of the things holding me back right now; I'm worried whatever I get will be ridiculously upstaged/cheaper within a matter of years..
wary pine
I bought my vive used back in 2018 for about $700 nzd including DAS, one of the face cushions were manky beyond cleaning and both controllers trackpads broke after maybe 100 hours of use, maybe less, but at least I got a deal of $200 for 2 of my trackers from the guy. new they were around $1000
really I should've bought a new one from the US for $500 usd /$750 nzd and shipped it here, still no more warranty but at least it's new
but we have nzpost youshop that I use to send stuff here pretty cheap, my aussie friends haven't found anything equally as cheap in aus, and that was back when I didn't have to send proof of purchase price so I may have evaded some taxes on the headsets that I did buy from the US
my friend had nolo tracking, better than kinect but not great, hip had no rotation and it's still not nearly as accurate as vive trackers from what I've seen
oh yeah I know dj gelo as well, he does a pretty good job with his but someone used to seeing fbt movement with vive trackers can still see how it's a lil off
kindred finch
hey
wary pine
heyo
honestly despite having no experience in making hardware I played around with the idea of buying a steamvr tracking dev kit and seeing if I can develop some better/cheaper trackers, and lighter controllers for beat saber players back in the day
seems like more work than 1 or 2 people can do half time tho so I gave up
fallen jungle
need help in vr
fallen jungle
i can't see the avatar nor hear them talking except my friends online
warped summit
check your safety settings
wary pine
turn voice and avatar options on for all ranks of your choosing in safety settings tab
fallen jungle
welp it didn't work
wary pine
woops accidently pressed enter before finished don't mind me
uncut pendant
tortillas de albarricoque ._.XD
wary pine
@polar badge I missed the last line you said. You shouldn't worry about that. VR tech for the near future will advance slower than say PC hardware or phone tech, because of the niche market. When I bought my rift in 2017 it was $350 or $400 usd. if it was sold for that price today that'd still be my choice for that tier. even now there is nothing on the market that can do what the vive can do back then. The Index for the forseeable future is still gonna have more demand than supply and there's nothing new from valve or anything that's gonna be superior than the cosmos lineup from htc coming in the near future. the oculus headset coming later this year is sort of a sidegrade from the quest, a reduced cost design that aims to deliver the same experience for a little less. rumoured apple headset is still far away. it's not like gpus where in 4 years an *80ti is outperformed by a *60 card
vocal shard
im hosting a movie thing
pls join me if you have my vrchat tag in your friend list
and if you want to
unique mauve
It's actually gonna slow down quite a bit since they're going to have to do som R&D on display panels. Until now, it's been riding the wave of phone display tech and that's kinda hitting a plateu now...
short totem
does anyone know why my steam is not connecting to the internet?
languid beacon
Good news everyone, I purchased my Valve Index just now, meaning due to karma, the Valve Index 2 will very likely be announced soon!
modern harbor
the Valve Indexer
jolly trout
That always happens :(((
You always purchase something and then something better comes out shortly after
modern harbor
The Opposite happened to me when I ordered my Index.
Because 1 week later, a certain game was announced and all the Indexs were sapped up.
tired yarrow
Will there be Finger tracking support for htc? Htc released some time ago
modern harbor
?
vocal shard
I don't think so. HTC hasn't really done anything with it themselves either
It's not as advanced as quest finger tracking
tired yarrow
I the best would be to buy index controllers. Already planed that for christmas
serene citrus
In Turkey, vr is very expensive, I wish I would have
somber rain
I use an OG Vive with the wireless adapter and index controllers, works great
tired yarrow
I am using a htc vive pro and a xbox 360 kinect at the moment. but I plan to buy vive trackers and index controllers for christmas
somber rain
Make note that you could convert your vive wands into trackers and buy special dongles instead
then you only need one real tracker
much cheaper
covert blade
Is the Vive controller really that much cheaper?
Because you still need a total of 5 trackers, two for hand, three for fullbody if you actually want to use FBT
somber rain
He said he's getting index controllers
so his vive wands will be available, he won't need to buy them
So 2 Vive wands + a real tracker for FBT, Index controllers for hands, and headset for head tracking
covert blade
Ah I see
Then he would only have the problem of the Vive controllers being even less suitable than the trackers for FBT
somber rain
Better than shelling out $300 imo
covert blade
ehhh
somber rain
I've already spent over $1000 on my headset setup alone
Like I'm kinda over spending money on it lmao
covert blade
I'd argue that it is better to invest into the most suitable hardware rather than using cheaper less suitable alternatives
vocal shard
supra
covert blade
Also the reason why I would never recommend anyone use Kinect for FBT
somber rain
In a perfect world where I have unlimited money sure
but this is the real world in the middle of a pandemic while I'm unemployed
covert blade
Then it's probably best not to invest into anything gaming related
vocal shard
ikr
somber rain
Yep, but I feel like my point stands. Even if I did have the money rn investing yet another $300 seems awful
covert blade
Not to me
somber rain
Especially when I could spend about $150 and have leg tracking that works perfectly fine
vocal shard
what r u guys talking bout
ashen lichen
@languid beacon lucky you lol we have been trying to get one at work for the longest while
somber rain
I've thought of something that at least for me and probably a lot of content creators would be great for VRC
Being able to hold the stream camera on a stick like a selfie stick
languid beacon
@ashen lichen
Ordered: March 9, 2020
Shipping confirmed: August 4, 2020
Total wait time: 5 months + 28 days.
ashen lichen
@languid beacon worth the wait i hope , ill have to rock with the vive for now ...maybe we will get one next year
languid beacon
Knowing my luck index 2 will be announced before this gets delivered lol
ashen lichen
@languid beacon nahhhhh have some faith lol , that would def hurt tho T_T ....we just ordered a quest and two weeks later they said theyre releasing a new version ...but the new version doesn't look like its anything to be too worried abt 
covert blade
@somber rain There used to be a stick that increased the range you could hold the camera from but it was removed
vocal shard
hi
ashen lichen
wait green gang is a real thing lol @vocal shard i was a part of one in the GTA map
final vale
looking for a fat master chief avatar that can sort of fly and fall on the ground, making a massive fall sound effect
pls dm me if you have it or know it's name
vocal shard
Its real..
somber rain
Wow they should have kept the camera stick, I think it would be much easier to use
sharp chasm
the lock is more valuable tbh with how prevalent the game is for streamers
somber rain
the lock is useful yeah I'm not saying get rid of it
but actually moving the camera around kinda sucks imo
a stick would make it a bit easier in my eyes
covert blade
All the stick did was increase the grab range, which could've just been made the default setting
languid beacon
The stick was absolutely fake and cosmetic just extended the grab range
Sashaโd
somber rain
I just think the mechanic of grabbing the camera itself feels really clunky
covert blade
Grabbing is fine, clicking the buttons can be annoying
somber rain
The buttons are actual hell for me lmao
languid beacon
Buttons should become laser targets
covert blade
^
ruby needle
Im 100% convinced that there are no buttons
somber rain
I feel like the camera doesn't release as soon as I open my hand which makes it always move a bit when I try to release
which makes me angry lmao
ruby needle
Instead there is a badly functioning brain reading api trying to identify what you want to do
Change my mind
*
covert blade
No need to change a perfectly valid opinion
inland knot
@covert blade 
covert blade
aaa I can't use emotes here so I'll just, * pat pat *
inland knot
modern isle
What version of unity is needed to edit and upload avatars at this point in time, 5.3.6p1?
languid beacon
2018.4.20f1
lapis atlas
i need help with my rift s bro i cant play help me
languid beacon
@modern isle
vocal shard
What's wrong? @lapis atlas
lapis atlas
ok so
it says my stuff is active
and connected
but its red
and it keeps saying i need to restart the software
and i did that like 100000 times already
vocal shard
You unplugged the USB cable?
vocal shard
Check your computer for any updates. Sometimes my Oculus software won't run properly if some drivers need to be updated
rancid pilot
Yo what is that application that allows you to levitate while sitting
languid beacon
Playspace mover
rancid pilot
Thank youuu
lapis atlas
UGHH
modern isle
So 2018.4.20 not 5.6.3p1 unity vr for avatar uploading yes?
vocal shard
Yeah
vocal shard
Cubed is pretty old now and not really updated. There's other shaders which work better now. You can use pretty much whatever you want though.
modern isle
Ok cool
languid beacon
Sounds like you might be following an old tutorial. 5.6.3p1 is two versions (~2 years) ago and cubed is discontinued
spice steppe
emm hello
I play on desktop version and I have an azerty keyboard...
I can't change the keys, can I?
burnt crescent
I dont think so D:
modern isle
I need help making a shader for an avatar thats cosmic/space like and that moves or rotates i used to know how to do it but that was 2 years ago and im not figuring it out at all now i have noenoe shaders and snailโs shaders
languid beacon
@spice steppe most Dvorak keyboards have a mode to switch back to QWERTY. That will let your WASD work again.
Or at least, the location it would be at
spice steppe
imma try that
burnt crescent
Does anyone know why interactables in levels would have stopped working? Every car level i visit stopped letting me interact with cars when it worked mere hours ago.
Is there a weird setting or keybind issue? Tried reinstalling, tried clearing cache, tried restarting the computer
unique mauve
@languid beacon AZERTY is a common configuration for French keyboards. It's not a Dvorak keyboard.
languid beacon
My bad! I believe Windows can emulate most alternate keyboard layouts though, so if English-US/UK is available it will move WASD keys to the correct location
And the game doesnโt have text chat so it probably wonโt cause any issue except searching for worlds I guess
cloud saffron
im bored
grim tusk
Same
carmine reef
hi
grim tusk
Hey how's it going
timber basalt
hi Evebody love vrchat and you guys are awesome
languid beacon
I forget to blurt that out more often tbh
normal prawn
I found someone with the nuisance rank that doesn't deserve it; like he's a good guy, and has genuinely no clue why he had been blocked; all he knows is he got blocked by a lot of people
I did some research, but to no avail; does anyone know if it's possible to remove the nuisance rank and if so, how?
vocal shard
What is security code for raptor club
sterile dock
Does anyone know where to find the darksouls avatars in the firelink shrine map?
covert blade
@normal prawn As far as I know you can get it by getting mass blocked by bot accounts, you can theoretically contact support (look in #vrchat-support ) but as far as I know, they're not going to help you
vocal shard
what if I donโt have vrchat because my pc is i3 and I donโt have a console
covert blade
VRChat's not on consoles
muted orbit
I...?
vocal shard
Isnโt it on ps4
odd blaze
@normal prawn You can check the api, then see who blocked you and when, if its a bot its usually massive amount at same time,
covert blade
Nope
muted orbit
nope
covert blade
VRChat is on Steam and the Oculus Store, also available on Oculus Quest
muted orbit
can play desktop mode
vocal shard
oculus is how much?
normal prawn
@normal prawn You can check the api, then see who blocked you and when, if its a bot its usually massive amount at same time,
@odd blaze I talked to the guy and apparently a whole lobby blocked him, and he doesn't know why; he said he said random stuff, but nothing offensive or ear-rapey
also it's not me with the rank
covert blade
Best to look that up yourself due to regional pricing
normal prawn
it's a guy named "A Cause For Concern" (his name isn't really helping him out here lol)
vocal shard
well itโs out of my budget either way ๐
odd blaze
Takes more then a lobby to get nuisance
normal prawn
I'm aware of that; I'll try talking to him more when I get back
he's still fully unaware of how he got it
but he is a chill guy
covert blade
I get random blocked every now and then as well
normal prawn
like your average VRchat user
odd blaze
have 100's who blocked me ๐คทโโ๏ธ
normal prawn
wait where can you check users who blocked you again? I kinda wanna see who has me blocked
nvm gotta go
covert blade
There's been literally people who were former friends who I haven't talked to in a long time who blocked me, people I never interacted with while being in my normal private avatar, people that I've never met ingame whatsoever
odd blaze
majority i never seen either
covert blade
Apparently because of a Tweet I made, the friend of the person it was directed to decided that I was a bad person and blocked me on Twitter and ingame, never met them
And I'm pretty sure there are some people who blocked me because others were using bad avatars and they couldn't tell that I wasn't even doing it
@normal prawn https://nyanpa.su/vrchatblocked/
But it's whatever
heavy timber
excuse me but how the hell did i get a ban for modified client that lasts 2 months after i got a 3 day ban for the same reason, without even having played since i originally received the message about the 3 day ban?
muted orbit
Pardon the obvious but, are you using a modded client?
if so thats why. If not my follow up is if youre playing through a VM
upbeat thistle
VMs are causing bans?
muted orbit
I dont think with vrchat but I know its an issue in other games
ruby needle
VM's can lead to bans in games where things like aimbots are of bennefit
heavy timber
Nope. And the point i'm holding here is that i got banned after getting unbanned without having launched the game once, logged into the site, or anything in the timespan of when i got banned again.
ruby needle
since within a PC you could eventually analyse input and such, but if the aimbot runs on the host and controll the mouse of the VM, the only way to know is by analyzing the movement, but you can't detect if any program is doing it without movement analytics.
muted orbit
ah
ruby needle
@heavy timber please open a moderation ticket at https://help.vrchat.com/new for official support / appeals / clarifications in that regard
No one on this Discord will be able to help you / answer you.
covert blade
answhere
muted orbit
answho
flint socket
Whatโs yโallโs favorite thing to do in vrc?
muted orbit
๐
flint socket
You dirty dog
muted orbit
Stand silently looking into the mirror for 4 hours
flint socket
lol
muted orbit
๐ฉ
odd blaze
see how many people i can make fall asleep lately
muted orbit
How do you manage that??
odd blaze
Drunk people , talk to them about their worry / stress then tell em to go to bed
heady surge
wholesome
muted orbit
awe
flint socket
Based
rocky blaze
am surprised there isn't a colour blind option for the ui
boreal ether
vrc dead?
undone mica
same here
boreal ether
๐ฆ
gloomy remnant
ded
pine current
big oof
royal pewter
back up now
rocky blaze
mass crash?
vocal shard
Anyone wanna play a horror map with me?
prime wave
Is anyone in posession of a Hobkin model?
lapis urchin
Iโve finally uploaded my first world
frail parcel
If you all like to add me on vrc my username is chicagobh4
vocal shard
I have a problem with the game
I have a problem with my life
well fix it
then fix the problem with the game
simple
no game is hard
dang,that sucks
ikr
yeah
yeah
ok no seriously
I need help with this issue
then fix it
Would probably help to say what the issue is
grave cedar
where can i ask people if they want to play
vocal shard
Would probably help to say what the issue is
At the beggining when I start the game I press "Go" then goes on a black screen and it won't respond saying VRChat is not responding
And you've played the game before without issue?
This is my first time actually
Oh, ok. Trying to rule out if you maybe got stuck in a self crashing avatar. But maybe not
I can do a clip to show you
if needed
No it's fine. I understand what you're saying
I really want to fix it because I want to play this game.
I'm not tech support, not the greatest at troubleshooting, sorry. I don't know what could be causing the issue. Although I'm sure it's nothing major
Is there a support channel after I get roled?
You already have the required roles. But most of the help you'll get here will be from other users. You can send in a ticket to the vrchat team from the link here though #vrchat-support
Alright thanks!
muted orbit
anyone wanna jam, i need music
rapid lion
Hello everyone
rugged lynx
hey
nova abyss
Hi
nova abyss
Fricking online classes, assignments and quizzes wbu
nova abyss
Yea, I'm about to pass out in a month tho so that's a sign of relief
rugged lynx
damn-
unreal halo
HELLO!
If anybody knows how to make custom avatars very well then hit me up, I will pay money. Tell me your prices and we can agree on something. Going for a very personal and original design cause I be like that ๐
DM me
vocal shard
580 is better than 1050
warped goblet
I have an rx 480 and I can run this game, some worlds are a bit laggy but it only really gets bad if people start spamming obnoxious particles and what not
vocal shard
And I've ran vrchat in VR on a 1050, but it wasn't the greatest experience, and was using a wmr headset, which actually runs quite well on lower spec systems
muted orbit
o my b
One lobby of the world where its raining and everyones stands infront of the mirror is popping off
room in the rain?
zinc barn
Can anyone help me get ahold of Buttercup-Senpai? Their posted Discord is wrong, so I can't find them
scenic crest
@muted orbit my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu for some reason
warped goblet
Hmm, which cpu is that?
vocal shard
Contemplating on jumping into VRC rn
jolly trout
I would but I have to sleep
tardy swift
@zinc barn I would ask them agen and then if it's the fact that it's not on no expire mode may that's why
muted orbit
That's odd @scenic crest what cpu?
bronze swallow
how do I go to vr mode in vrchat, i have my quest hooked up with a link but I dont know how to go to vr mode
vocal shard
when you launch with steam, it should ask you if you want to go in vr mode or desktop mode
You have the Oculus client running and connected as well?
scenic crest
@muted orbit Intel Core i7-8700
vocal shard
that's a better CPU than me
nova abyss
yeah i am running an i7 6700HQ with 1060. And this usually gives me 70+ fps.
vocal shard
Remember when I said 2 hours ago I was contemplating on going into VRC?
Yeah I'm still on my couch xP
hard crag
Hello everyone
twilit mural
why when i go in menus it always scrolls down and wont let me click anything?
desktop mode
nova abyss
Hi
sturdy walrus
UwU
vocal shard
is the sdk login down?
no
second question, if you have a hidden character in your name, how do you log in to the sdk
nvm it was just not responding for like an hour and just now let me log in >_>
severe dew
vocal shard
i'd tried that, it just didn't do anything for a while idk why
severe dew
Steam or vrchat account?
vocal shard
ใใญ
quasi snow
Was VRchat really screwing up for people today? Seemed like a bad day.
vocal shard
Yeah, I crashed a couple times, and when I tried to restart, my controllers were messed up. Needed to restart my PC and then it worked
the joy of VR
glass spade
can someone help me in #avatars-mmd
spiral spade
vrchat be shitting itself
nova abyss
A good shit is healthy
spiral spade
oopsie!@!111.
vocal shard
howdy there partner
heady salmon
I've seen folk playing in full set-up mode plenty, but what is playing in desktop mode like? Just, like, comparable to any other first person game?
vocal shard
it's pretty crappy playing in desktop mode
after all the game is named vrchat
vr
chat
vr is 100x better
heady salmon
Yeah, I didn't wanna start playing just yet since I don't have the proper equipment.
vocal shard
ๅ ็ๅคงๅฅฝใ
spiral pendant
In desktop mode, it's just like any other first person game, but since it's made with vr in mind, there's no way to rotate items or anything in desktop
You have no "virtual hands" or anything, grabbing stuff just locks it in whatever position you found it in and has it follow you around
Honestly I think they should at least add some buttons for rotation, card games are terrible without a headset
vocal shard
buy a headset
spiral pendant
I have one
vocal shard
problem solved
spiral pendant
But I feel for my keyboard comerades
vocal shard
then they should buy a headset
spiral pendant
What's the point of cross platform desktop and headset play if your answer to half assing the desktop version is just "buy a headset"
spiral pendant
VRchat is free, a $400 headset is not
vocal shard
I am aware of that
spiral pendant
I'm not mad, but its just such a small thing that would go a long way
inland knot
just buy a headset 
storm stag
That's = Happiness.
vocal shard
?
mental viper
Not sure why Iโm here even though I donโt have a pc or a headset lmao
vocal shard
upper cradle
sturdy harbor
grim canopy
vocal shard
what's that
hard flicker
heyo
white grotto
.
rich veldt
Who got the furthest in carnival climb
true lantern
if you wanna listen to a song with your parents listen to anime thighs
rich veldt
Oh yeah my parents love listening to that while playing vrchat
vocal shard
if possible, could a mod of any sort DM me? i need some advice on something
rich veldt
M๐Ds
final vale
i can't see any world instances even afer restarting game
severe dew
grim tusk
nice
to the old town ROAD!
jolly trout
Ram ranch?
grim tusk
nah mayo ranch sayce
grim tusk
well being a Dr is pretty cool I guess
vocal shard
vrc having issue now?
warped creek
late lake
yoooo 500 ping pog
vocal shard
Not sure where to ask this but; me and some friends have had constant crashes for the last hour or so. in two worlds. is anyone else having issues? we crash one after another, about 5 seconds apart. anyone know anything about this??
when we log back in into the world we ere in, we cant see each other or hear. like we're alone. but we're on the same world???
please do @ me or dm me if youve heard/seen anything
actual crash or "Your connection to VRChat timed out" because if its the message that aint a crash, there server are "having issues" and its happened to me a half dozen times, i get punted to another instance permanently with my head below my knees,
old flume
hi
grim tusk
Hi deadpool big fan of your films
old flume
im bored out of my mind
grim tusk
Then just go inside your mind since you're only bored out of it
crude fable
XD
old flume
lmao
when i see my grades for the first time and have to show my mom when i get home
vocal shard
languid beacon
Iโm hearing that a lot but I have no issue unfavoriting them.
Maybe there is a difference between oculus and steam?
covert blade
It'll let you do it eventually
vocal shard
sup gamers
nova abyss
Yeah I had the same issue. I tried restarting the game but it didn't help. However when I logged in the next day everything was the way it was supposed to be. I am on PC btw
tawdry geyser
i'm on pc, it's been happening for like a week
nova abyss
Oh that I don't know the solution of
Maybe try clearing cache and/or reinstalling vrc
vocal shard
i still need some sort of... i guess staff, not chat mod to talk to real quick about something, if possible, dm me?
i've went through the 'proper' channels already, that's why im here, because i'd like to talk to a real person
its not something i can talk about i guess in public
although i appreciate that you'd like to help
they don't do support through discord
use their email or the ticket system
its game related and my email was already responded to but the issue wasn't resolved
actual response
it's a really simple issue, it just needs some back and forth to resolve
vocal shard
a grafana link for vrchat
who made this
@vocal shard me
all from the api ?
api and https://mtr.sh/ for pinging the servers from over 100+ locations worldwide
๐ nice
wooden isle
Hello people
old flume
hi
late coral