#vrchat-general-2
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ok who here has played a game called "wall ball" or something similar in elementary school?
I have!
hola a todos soy nueva aqui
I vaguely remember wall ball.
I'm going to test out my quest with link
@twin fractal kk
Is VRChat crashing for anyone?
bruh bringing up the menu lags me a bit
What do you mean by testing headsets first? Is it because of the headsets or is it just the game?
I'm having a very frustrating issue with VRchat's idea of what my height is, it keeps putting me 2 inches or so taller than I really am and usually that wouldn't be a problem because I'd just swap to sitting mode while at my usual standing height but I got full body now and am realizing it's overplacing my viewcam as if I was in standing mode. Redoing room setup didn't help either.
it doesn't work if you try on run it from steamvr
I can't find any help on the VRC support site either
is it me or vrc started crashing after update
It’s for a lot of people apparently
holy heck everything is broken
fluffy I'm test the controllers
VR controllers aren't working at all for a few people
I wish I could figure out the commonality with what's working and what's breaking.
it's only in the steam client I'm guessing since oculus client works for me
uh...well all of my friends avatar stuck at 10 or 0 percent and avatars shows up but hands down standing still in pose doing nothing.
What's your set up, Fooni?
oh what do you mean set up? specs?
Yeah, are you in VR, or Desktop? What's in the computer (If there is one), etc.
Vrchat has been broke all day for me
Oh desktop mode atm, have nothing in my pc
w10
i5 4690k 3.5ghz rtx 2060 super
24gb ram

And I bet everything was working fine before.
Is there an update for your video card, maybe?
nope everything is up to date, think its vrc update that killed most things
Hrmmmm
Well, I’ll give VRChat a try now anyway.
Has it actually worked for anyone else?
My friend said that him and his friends are having trouble rn
it's working for the majority of people it seems
It worked perfectly fine for me and the update was a good experience, so no it's not broken for everyone.
I wouldn't say it's a small number that it's broken for, though.
It's kinda hard for me to figure out what could be causing it.
Dain, it's not working for you, right?
controllers not detecting
Odd bug
I can load in but I'm stuck unable to do anything
And it works with other games / programs?
yep
hello friends
just VRChat. apparently some people cant even have their tracks for full body detected either
I am expecting a fairly quick patch to these problems. They seem to be a bit too prevalent.
My FBT worked just fine.
yeah the controller issue is either all or none of seems
Someone explain udon like im 2 years old
For making worlds.
So, it’s different from Unity?
That’s what I’m wondering. What’s the incentive to use it over unity?
its still unity
You use it in unity
udon is a programming language
It's like extra tools to make cool worlds and games
an example of that would be like, being able to make actual team deathmatch for like shooting games in a world
niceE
imagine someone making gmod game modes
anyone else having problems with the avatar inventory system?
i can see changes apply to my avatar but my girl doesn't see them
and same vice versa
What I have noticed is I can see my lips move, though others can't. The new update may require reuploading those avatars to get those sorts of bugs fixed.
Anyone having issues connecting to the server(s). Get a device not connected to internet message on launch.
iv tried just about everything to try get my index controllers and trackers to work in vrchat but nothing yet. #feelsbad
When I open VRChat, it says "We're sorry something went wrong! 1) Try using menu to load into a different world. 2) Close VRChat and restart it." I did these two and it doesn't work. I even tried uninstall and removing all the VRChat files then reinstall, but its still not working. I even tried validating but still it does not work.
you tried clearing the cache?
yes
probably a lot of folks still chilling on 2017 for god knows what reason
2017?
The version of VRChat right before the update
using Unity 2017, instead of this current new version, which uses Unity 2018.
If you see people talking about the "2018 update" it's this one.
tell your friends to update their game, or update yours
^
Pens are useless on the new version, they worked fine yesterday :<
And I'm getting audio crackle on my left ear phone, and only in VR chat, since spotify playing behind it does not have the same issue.
think you have to update the pens, However i can vouch that the new pens drawing would be better
perhaps it was just unlucky in the worlds I tried then.
Also, after about 5 hours, I had bad stutter every time I opened the menu. Felt like a memory leak, but that could be system dependent.
ah well, bedtime!
👋
anyone else keep joining empty worlds tonite for some reason
@white shard or they cant even run it anymore
my game keeps crashing
May I ask how long does it usually take to rank up from user to known user by spend time in public worlds?
Dm me cause I have to go to bed
It takes NaN
@covert chasm Does new vrc update support unity 2018 vfx graph particle systems?
needs HDRP, wont work
Ok ty
trying to play werewolf atm and non of the cards are showing are inside the house. any reason why that is broken?
pens still work for me
qv pens use object sync for position, because with the old net ik, that worked a lot better than using hand movement through net ik to sync drawing.
but in this specific update, object sync seems to have a few issues.
yea and werewolf atm is fucked since you cant see what you are inside your house
Avatar menu seems to be messed up. After a certain point, avatars vanish from the list despite there being more.
it's already a known bug apparently
new jumping / ground collision detection could use a bit of cleaning up. When you hit the floor, you stop a bit above it, then slowly sink to the floor to the correct position.
is there a way to change FOV? i know you can change the fps but idk about the fov.
you can change your viewpoint. but FOV in game, nope
Quest is practically unplayable now, oof
Avatars kinda not loading in game, only some works
they broke seats on avatars, can’t use the seats anymore
in case anyone is still having the controller issue , the temp fix is to uninstall VRChat and manually delete all the VRChat files then reinstall
just reinstalling won't cut it
You can use seats on avatar but you need to use an animator to turn them on, as stated in their release notes @flint kayak
^which is a bug and will be fixed eventually
my fps are still fine
How would I increase my fps over 90? I just read that the framerates are changeable
if you have index you can set the framerate from 90fps to 120fps or 144fps
What about flatmode?
I think its locked at 90
oof
its locked at 90. you CAN go above it but later on it just go backs down to 90
any idea why my microphone level is default 0 everytime i login?
- the last time i checked people couldnt hear me
also every now and then people sound like there mic quality dropped. like we are back in the old MW2 days
yes :/
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go
These lags are annoying..
I wish I could use pc avatars on quest...
probably not happening
I wish people would just look for quest avatars
they exist and in decent quality too
biggest problem with quest is that this game is 90% user content and quest users (in general) don't make anything for themselves
any idea why my microphone level is default 0 everytime i login?
So I loaded up after the new update, jump to one of the Black Cat servers and just.
...Public servers and 3 people have nsfw avatars.
greaaaaat...
glad to see VRChat is back to normal
lol
Lack of any moderation will help with that happening yes
it's 2am guess I'm playing asian hours later...
@vocal shard when you say they need to be turned on with an animator, do you mean a toggle emote or a gesture?
So is anyone else just unable to launch the game at all now? I and a couple friends cant get past clicking 'play' on steam.
someone mentioned doing a clean install and manually delete all VRChat files
how i like getting my vrchat crashed by an avatar
how do i make friends
positive interaction with people
Ok, so i uninstalled vrchat and controllers still didnt work. i then decided to go into beta mode for steamvr and now they work
nice. so beta fixes it for some people
vrcbot isn't displaying active users at the moment?
tupper unplugged bot? D:
F for VRCBot 😭 his game probably crashed 😭
is anything in this server related to the letter Q?
huh
e got the quest headset channels
no I'm confused. Why do you need a channel related to the letter Q?
this new update broke this game for me
Same
everytime i open it, it hangs with "not responding" message
I had to logout then it fixed my VRChat but my account got deleted or something
wtf
i wont do that
i've friends there
@broken plover uits important
very important
That's why I sent a damn support ticket
my brain hurts
Vrchat audio just suddenly stopped working as I was chilling and now won’t work, steamvr overlay audio and desktop etc is working fine, and vrc menu saying I have no mic (Default - none) too. Anyone know a solution?
friend mic shows he is talking but no sound
ummm the solution is get rid of udon
this update has broken the game farther than it already was
no, udon probably has nothing to do with it
udon is a programming language for worlds. it won't cause any of these things
so any idea
@wary hollow Does it function properly outside the game, did he select the right microphone. Has he restarted the game yet
Also if that didnt work make sure he sets the mic he wants as the primary microphone within windows itself
hey guys, would anyone be interested in supporting a new streamer with a follow or youtube sub? 😄 trying to expand my following and id really appreciate it 🙂
F to avatar creators, im doing commisions and because they released 2018 im no longer able to upload or make avatars... thanks again vrchat
And whats not working then because so far all you did is complain
it forced me to update to 2018
or did you not update at all?
for avatars you need the sdk2. The skd3 is only for worlds btw
Unless you say whats broken we cant help- if you got a billion errors we cant see them or know about it unless you tell us
^
Anyone know why I can't start up the game after the patch? X)
check integrity files maybe? verify it i mean
dont know if this is a thing but why cant i move my fingers with the index
reinstalled the entire thing and still happens xD
Yo
Anyone else FPS drop from the new update
and i would like to move my fingers plz :3
Does it not work anymore
nope after this update the only thing that moves is my thumb and ive reinstalled 6 times already so ive just about givin up
I don't even have input controls
My index controllers work fine in VRC
@umbral reef out of game works in game no
yeah that's the thing for me they work fine out of the game but once i get inside of it i legit cant move them at all and everytime i step somewhere it locks and unlocks my gestures
Do you use a different binding?
I use the Index for Sane PPL
and it works fine for me
Can anyone comfirm if invite requests/invites are working?
Not of recent. Early yes
take a drink evry time someone posts the error world in #user-support-old
Reading about the update before downloading something 🕺
@vocal shard is that the VRC site because it works fine for me as im on it right now lol
it works from everywhere else but the vienna cf location
hmm weird
Anyone unable to register new accounts/change usernames on the website?
I have seen someone not able to do that. Same thing happening with you?
Couple friends of mine, yes
Seems there are issues with the site maybe
everything entered into the username comes back as taken, even things like "34y34g4e5hrt"
Okay so seems like it is down right now from what it seems
btw
when starting it up I got "VRchat installation helper" pop up
my friend did not tho
This helper is to install webhook functions
@umbral reef @vocal shard
Switching to desktop vrchat and then to vr mode fixed it
Now mic works for him
There is a Voice unlike before just talk icon but no voice
go on
I wish I could post screenshots, but when I'm trying to import it, I get this "Copying file failed" error.
Something about access is denied.
Click cancel
delete ALL VRCSDK files
plus Plugins folder
then try reimporting the SDK
take a shot
如果有人Collab更新2018之后同步失败的话
先关闭unity,然后删了老SDK的所有文件,要不然同步会提示无法删除文件(DLL因为在运行删除失败)并且报错
踩了个坑..
So pretty much now there is coding?
Yes
@lucid sierra I did have that issue and all I needed was to delete the Plugins Folder and VRCSDK folder in unity and it went through fine
maybe try deleting and then restarting Unity
Anyone having issues with their world being super dark, and there not being any textures since the update?
Almost all content should work without an update, but if you run into issues you should try updating and re-uploading.
The only issue I saw with my worlds, and it really isn't a big deal, is some of my fire particles aren't working.. even after reupload..
Is it normal to hear you're own voice in VRChat when you talk or is that with the update
its normal to hear your own voice but not replayed from the vrchat client
so no its not normal you hear your own voice in vrchat. And it also isnt part of the update
It's not from any other people because i'm in a private world
dumb question but do you still hear your voice if you close vrchat?
weird
lemme screw with the settings and see if it fixes anything
maybe you have some weird avatar equipped?
how do i get vrc back to fullscreen?
alt + enter
nope it's not the avatar cuz ive been using these godzilla's for a week and nothing happened
it's not the mic cuz i changed it thru every single option and hear my voice in every one of them
It's probably also the cause for my non working lip sync
just to save people that havent done it yet, don't switch over to the new unity or the new SDK until they fix whatever they have done
K i reported my issue to the support
Hopefully this will be fixed for me soon
Some of my avatars The lame ones don't have mic problems but alot do
Ok so i figured out wich of my avatars are broken @broken plover
It's an issue with the avatars, there's nothing support can/will do about it. It happens when the visemes aren't mapped properly.
Whoever uploaded them needs to fix them and reupload them.
i have problems in unity right now, so i installed the 2018 and import the latest vrdsk on a new fresh project and for some reason the vrchat sdk option won't allow me to upload anything it just said " clear cache and playerpref " and when i check the console there is a 5 error 4 blank errors and 1 " NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance object "
but then the thing is when i just reinstalled vrchat the mc was fine
@broken plover
Apparently the " NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance object" is normal now as the devs decided that the SDK shitting itself every time you try and upload is the preferred behaviour. Assuming it appears at the point AFTER you click to build.
i was just chilling in a world and a popup appeared and it said unity 2018 with a loading bar and then the game crashed
epic
any fix with my controllers yet?
i had that one earlier today, but then again vrchat is occasionally unstable for me @proper lynx
it sucks too because i was in the middle of doing a bit
it's not worth it anymore man
Did you ask in the shader channel?
Is there a way to use the old vr locomotion? Like right stick turns you and left stick is movement?
how long do I have to play before uploading avatars?
it depends on a lot of factors like having friends and actively playing instead of afking
you get the ability to upload when you get new user
it's not a fixed amount of time
I wanted to start with friends but I don't like not having custom avatars
@scenic patrol what? i've not had that issue
For me turning is done with right stick left and right, up is forward and down is back
left stick does.... nothing
i mean crap
i messed up lol
Does anyone know who made the original doom eternal version of the doom slayer?
OKAY so, left stick, to the sides turn me left or right, and the right stick does pretty much nothing @vocal shard
the first one? @haughty galleon
if possible yeah
nikout13 i think, but it wasn't a full model
there was shit missing it wasn't 100% as we had no model
@scenic patrol check steamvr bindings
im glad people are not having controller issues where they dont show up in VR chat
My steamvr controller settings havent changed since yesterday
I love this update cuz it screwed with the viseme but on the bright side the mirrors show my godzilla's atomc breath and lighting up dorsal plates so there's one good thing
the loving the screwing with viseme is sarcasm
i was discussing with someone how disabling the mirrors for a day for an April fools joke and listing it as a bug would be the funniest thing
@vocal shard thanks, i just wanted to talk to someone who had the assets for the new version of him, so i could ask permission to create a custom one
@half notch i had someone earlier in chat that fixed it but starting the game in desktop mode without steamVR and then booting it up again with steamVR
Can be worth trying it
yea locomotion is just messed up for me, right thumb stick values dont turn me like it used to. Now i turn AND move with the left thumb stick.
anyone elses fps slow down
I think it's a good idea for more avatar favourite slots.
quick question to whoever has vive trackers, is there a way to adjust the position of the hips? whenever i lay down my viewpoint is in my chest and i can't see anythin
Very avatar specific. As a general rule try to make your avatar proportions match your own body. Also laying down just doesn’t work as ik tries to keep your head and chest afloat. Not an expert, just my findings.
Advanced Settings and the User Real Height adjustment are the only ways you can potentially fix that, unless you fix the avatar's proportions in blender
Does anyone know the old chair bug that allowed you to rotate other players an even the world? It was fixed but I'm interested in how it works and if Udon can do it
Does anyone know if the poiyomi toon v 5.1.1.08 still works with the new unity ?
Does anyone know how I can talk in VRC like Kromia does? Without a mic but with this bot voice. (In desktop mode)
Are chairs (in worlds) broken for anybody else? (For vr users)
Desktop work but there a weird animation for 1 sec
Quest people work too i saw. But if you start to physecly move your caracter. He will start to move around like something pulling him
@half notch i had someone earlier in chat that fixed it but starting the game in desktop mode without steamVR and then booting it up again with steamVR
Can be worth trying it
@umbral reef ill give it a try
nope still dont work
its almost like its trying to run desktop mode in VR D:
i have submitted a ticket but waiting 24-48 hours for a reply is silly
Request. consider a PSVR version please. currently as there is a stay at home order, I have loaned out my Quest to my Pastor so his dauter can use it, so I am left with only my PSVR and I would like to get back into VR chat, but I can not right now. So my request is consider a PSVR version.
Unless sony changes their mind about user generated content, vrchat isnt coming on PSVR :/
😦
@umbral reef so i just was in desktop mose and come across someone using the same headset and controllers and they are havign no issues
so I can't get vrchat to even load up. I click play and it doesn't even try to go anywhere.. the button turns to stop then right back to play. I reinstalled and restarted my pc still nothing
The steel'n gold map is broken after the update, will it be fixed soon? ;_;
@vocal shard You'll need to ask the author
Ohh I thought VRC was the author of it
Might take a while as they got more important stuff to fix for now
@vocal shard Oh, it is, curious.
Yeah, VRC is the official author of the map.
Also, while we're on it, what happened to the snow battle royale map they had a while back?
It was a fun map to play around in but at some point it just disappeared
@eternal epoch Try Googling - there are tutorials to get at least the PSVR headset working with PC. You could then play with controller.
I don't have windows, I am a Linux only user, and VRchat does not have a Linux client so not going to fly here saddly
but you could install windows as a 2nd os?
Sigh... Why everyone neglects Linux users?!
@devout berry because the market is fairly small for the amount of work it takes
Good morning friends
@eternal epoch There's literally zero chance for a PSVR version. It would need to be done from scratch, they'd have to pay the significant PS licencing costs, then it likely wouldn't be allowed anyway due to the user generated content.
@eternal epoch wine
And then ALL content (avatars and worlds) would need to be built again specifically for the PS platform, the same way Quest content has to be built.
The question is why is every one saying "sony prevents user created content" when there is Dreams (true is is a Sony first party but they still have user created content there)
If software I need worked on Linux, it would have been my primary OS, because I like customizing stuff and windows won't let you do much.
And how about Valve Proton runtime?
@eternal epoch dream is content within a prevuold software already
It's the same reason they allow Minecraft
Because Dreams is user created using the in-game tools, not "random shit some guy found on a website".
Also, the PS4 publishing licence for Unity is a paid feature, so you'd have no user content anyway
Not unless people go out and buy a licence for themselves explicitly to publish content.
Wouldn't Steam VR and VRChat run on Valve Proton? @faint skiff
VRChat would/could, SteamVR wouldn't (or if it does, it would be a terrible idea).
VRChat does work on Wine though, or at least it used to.
So at least desktop mode is available even on linux.
So out of curiosity, has anyone else heard the “robot voice” when other players talk on occasion?
???
OC
Ooh I see
Quest users @vocal shard
My rift s always works.
I hadn’t heard it from a quest user, they were all pc when they talked. It wasn’t constant either, just a few times when they would speak it would distort really bad
I think the robot combination is Rift/S + AMD chipset motherboard
Something to do with USB on that setup
Just installed proton, I will test it thanks
i cant believe it my unity is lagging now cause of update for 2018
Concerning the Rift S use a USB 3.1 Gen2 port....The headset exceeds the bandwidth available from USB 3.0 & 3.1 Gen 1
Probably not a bandwidth issue, but some clocking issue or some other weirdness. The issue only happens on AMD systems AFAIK.
Well at least for me and several people I know that fixed the problem
I do have a x370 mobo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
It's the best fix I've found
How can I see if my avatar has a prop with it? And how do I use it? Like if it has a knife you can pull out
I dont think theres a way to see if an avatar has any props without cycling through the gestures and emotes. If you're on PC, you do shift + f1 through f8.
If you're on VR, it depends on which controller you use
Shift + f1
If I have the Oculus Rift S, what do I do to use it?
is there a website showing me what all the buttons do?
Pretty sure you pose your hand in different ways.
There most likely is. Try and look up Oculus controller vrchat gestures.
Oculus kinda emulates moving your fingers sorta so its somewhat real.
You'll memorize gestures based on how you pose your hand
Easiest thing would be to find a mirror and try to different button combos that the avatar uses
Thanks!
Keep in mind some artists set gestures that require a different combo on each hand
Guys like Codename:ASKL are known for that
Alright, i'll keep that in mind, cheers
👍
So I found performance to be a mixed bag when I was playing last night. Is it safe to assume worlds was in that were performing badly were worlds that have not been updated yet?
Big odds for that being true
Cant say for sure though
No, updating worlds shouldn't have any effect on their performance. It's down to the client.
Well when I was in Dodecahedron performance was amazing even with all the mirrors on
Some worlds are more optimized than others
That world used to kill me even in desktop not that long ago
with only 4-5 mirrors on
Now with all 13 on I was still at 90
The latest client patch notes detail improved cpu usage under most circumstances
I did observe better behavior yes
Still parks most of the processing on a single thread 😕
4-5 mirrors on at the same time?
Oh well I've only seen better multi thread on 2019 Unity anyhow
Yes that used to be the limit in the world before it became unplayable
Now that I think about is there anyway to remove the 90 fps cap when you are in desktop mode?
Launch option -fps= should work
What's the fix for var desc = pipelineManager.GetComponent<VRC.SDKBase.VRC_SceneDescriptor>(); in the SDK not returning anything. It's broken the camera in world uploads.
Desc is null, leading to a script crash
i fixed my controller issue
@white cairn Sounds like it might be a bug. Does it happen if you remove and recreate the Scene Descriptor?
The prefab might not be correct, I think the scene descriptor might need to be SDK2 and not SDKBase
Look it's an AEV
My old vrchat install... Still there ❤️
if you have a controller issue where its not picking up your controller uninstall VRChat and remove the VRChat folder in Locallow in %appdata% and also remove the VrChat folderin steamapps: common
Hmm -fps in launch options doesn't seem to work
-fps=number
is what aev meant
Ah kk ty ill try it
I think it just gives me a black screen
yeah. Just replace number with what number you want the cap to be. I think.
cries
Speaking of launch options, is there a list of launch options VRChat supports somewhere?
Eh still locked to 91 max
We should get a docs page up for it
did -fps=240 and no change
It might need to be --fps=
Pretty sure its the --
Ow too slow with responding
okay I'll try that
@placid umbra I just want to say, thank you for helping me out with my issue a while back.
Okay kool that unlocks it
Now is that going to try to override my headsets max of 80 when I load into VR?
Yes
And yeah importing a new VRC Scene Descriptor doesn't work
It's hardware baded
Still gives the Desc failure
You can't override it.
Okay Just wondering if it would cause a conflict
Any news on when the Pug will be back?
nopee.. we just have to wait i think
Does anybody else see avatars shaking/shivering on vr users when they're sitting completely still?
Is it when they are interacting with something ??
Yupp that most likely the case as almost every avatar now is foked when change from unity 2017 to the current version
Tho ... lets wait and see if anyone else has this problem too?.. or a solution to your problem :)
Or maybe even a patch, I'm just surprised that I can't find anybody talking about it xD
Alright this is great now I can take advantage of monitor when i'm in desktop mode
Haha i think its because people cany even load into a world or log into vrchat at all to play , thats why no one talking about it
Haha poggers square XD large screen FTW
Oh no D:
No worries , next patch will fix all the major stuff , maybe for now go to the vrchat support channel and report it first :)
VRC at 240fps is butter smooth
If you can get it there
I did the opposite and limited it to 45 fps and enabled motion smoothing, but wmr motion smoothing is bad
or maybe its because amd cards are bad at reprojecting frames
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Never had that problem with my Vega64
just to get it right, we CAN'T use 2017 unity anymore right
right
and people still have a problem to launch the game ? bc i still cant
I heard reinstalling the game fixes it. Idk if it actually does because it always worked fine for me
About 50% or more people have issues with it vincent , no worirs you arent alone
Yupp but you can try it yourself to see if it fix the problem for you
The solution may not work for her but it may work for you ...and if shes willing to wait for the next patch, by all means encourage her ♡ , go to discord , share screen and let her watch too and you can help relay msg :3 many ways to go around
we just play bdo xD
that works too, play other ga es first, use discord as your social tool till next vrchat patch comes up
tfw you live in germany and it takes 3-5 days to install a modern game (60-80GB)
I see a lot of comments about people not being able to get in and that VRC is broken. Did something happen recently? I was in with no issues last evening.
it got a big update (switching from unity 2017 to unity 2018)
@vocal shard i deleted the VRC folder and it worked
Ahhh niceee vincent , share with your waifu , see if it works
yee
have funnn
why do i load so slow into a vrchat world ?
same here
Is vrchat back to normal or no
Sever can be a reason for it ( your region sever )
Frost its not , not till the next patch ><... lets be patient and wait for them to fix it. Almost 70-80% are having issues too
Thats an stupidly large exaggeration
Most people are running the game fine if not better.
There are for sure plenty having problem but not '70 to 80%'
Waaa
I wonder why today menu and game freezes often if yesterday everything was fine? 
Waaa
hmm XD haha true maybe a extrag to say so manyy
@wide crypt uhm
?
So, tomorrow what else happens?
I mean yesterday
I know bud, just messing with you XD
Yeah some things are fine, others aren't
Like open composite is broken now which is upsetting to me but other things like mirrors are magically better.
yeah
A friend ran into that thing where he's there and no-one could see or hear him last night, that was weird
I had a certain friend like duplicated
But I think that's just with me using old vrc install.
are we not allowed to sit on avatars anymore?
Hey guys, who can I speak to on the dev team about partnership inquries?
Gotta email them/send a ticket
at the bottom of #faq theres this email hello@vrchat.com I think you can ask there
Ok thanks
No, chairs have been allowed on avatars since 2019 new years. There should be no work around needed. (Max chairs is 6)
If they're not working anymore, then that's a bug from the new update.
Hello
I remember hearing chairs being disabled for avatars. Idk if it was changed again so I thought it was still like that
just a heads up if anyone is having issues with VR chat not picking up your controllers uninstall VRchat and remove the VRchat folder from the steam folder and the Appdata locallow
Hey, I've got a question. Is there anything than can be done about crashers? Other than blocking them, is reporting them of any use or are they in some sort of gray area?
@drifting vector Are you still seeing them since 2018 dropped?
@drifting vector Crashing in any form is against the rules.
You can report them by sending in a video and or outputlog towards the moderation team #moderation-reports
@faint skiff yup. Literally saw one a minute ago.
@faint skiff avatar crashers still work you know
@umbral reef thanks! Where can I find the output log? Don't know if anything will be done about said people but might aswell report them
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
If you report them with fairly fool proof proof they will be banned. I have reported plenty of them in the past and almost all got banned
Thanks! It's surprising seeing Known/Trusted Users doing this sort of stuff for virtually no reason :/
no matter rank, there's still annoying people out there
People dont know how to report and dont report flat out. So they get to run scot free
I definitely was not aware I could report them w/o video since I don't record every session I play but if the output works that's good to know
Should be put somewhere in the game as PSA so more people notice or something
Its really best to record them though
Makes the odds of them being banned way higher
There are programs that record passively for the past 30 seconds + what you want.
Makes it fairly easy to get them, my sick ass cant recall the name though
Yeah but it's hard to if your whole PC and not just VRC crashes lol
@umbral reef But that shouldn't be an issue unless they can still force-change people's avatars in 2018...
rare occasion but it's the only reason I got convinced to start asking now
@faint skiff He asked without blocking people...
And they still can, just not as easy because all old clients are bricked..
I have my safety options set and all but it's the known/trusted users that do it that get me
and sometimes unless it's a known crasher avatar there's no way to tell
very much appreciate the pointers and the info!
You can as most people do disable jsut the animations.
That way they cant trigger there crasher most of the time @drifting vector
I should do that! I thought it was the shaders that crashed for the most part
I'll definitely turn those off
@broken plover It changed. Now not working chairs on avatars are in the bug tracker - it broke with the update. Look: https://vrchat.canny.io/open-beta/p/890-chairs-on-avatars-do-not-work (it is in open beta, but according to the blog, here are the new update bug reports)
How do I know which of the outputs is the correct one? @umbral reef
They should have a date
can someone explain to me how to fix the black bars on the left and right side of the screen?
Also else check at what date they got made
Ahh, will the output contain enough evidence of the person that caused it? Having a brief read over it it doesn't have the user's name in there
Has user ID's
But its really best to include the name manually if you know who did it
Ok! Thanks a lot for your help
Cant provide them with too much info really when it comes to reporting
I've reported them now and sent a ticket, thanks! The help is very much appreciated
anyone have issues with steamvr crashing steam?
All the time for weeks lol
I keep shaders + custom anims off, my one crasher friend tries to crash me sometime and I laugh about it
Well for some reason my VRChat is not launching now, gives a few errors about 'Checkboxes' missing/DontDestroyOnLoad among a few others
my avatar doesn't seem to have been changed, seeing from the vrchat website
Edit: deleted my cache to fix it
Has anyone else had this problem? Trying to log in with steam and it asks for my DoB but it says "Please fill out valid data for each input" every time I click update. It just won't take my DoB and let me log in >_>
I guess it's just me then?
Top edge group yea
I feel SAO Fan presence!
No
Lol bunch if dumb kids like every other group
Yes
Let's start a competitor mic
:^)
I'm sure we can go more edge then yhem
LMAO! I bet you would be cringing if you saw my IDEs - I have applied custom anime themes on them, because just black window with code is meh.
have I blocked so many users that I'm missing half the conversation
Odd flex
Probably
@hybrid aspen Goto your graphic settings and change it to streched.
Owmy selling a free game
wowie and you dont share that with me jamie
Why do you think I never have any of the problems people seem to have. 
joking btw in case anyone doesnt realize
I got that even with me free version 
Oh man... I've been ripped off
is that a jamie i see?
Yeye
well hello there :3
Heya
well since i play vr chat things changed
i no longer need a IRL gf
congratulations
Thank you
Just need an IRL trap now?
No
lads
if i delete vrchat from my pc but my account is bound to my steam account will i still have the avatars i favorited?
I have no idea
Jup all account info is saved on the internet not on your pc
i'm like 5 days old in the game
What’s the talk about paid vrchat
the best way to have fun in quarantine
@wheat moss Its me and jamie joking around

I'm a VRChat premium member as well
thanks a bunch lads
also, is anyone having problems like me joining friends in other rooms?
it sends me to a random one of the same type of room when i try
no i havent gotten past the start up screen
either the room is full or your on different versions
@topaz dome try the steps within #user-support-old .
If that fails try deleting the Version.dll in your install directory
okay small brain question how do i figure out which vrchat version im using
@vocal shard It should show a build number when you open the menu

Imagine not having a VRChat gold account
What
yeah gotta support the teams and creators
So e z to do light monetization one things actually work ok 🤤
Buy them t-shirts
I wouldn't be caught dead in that shirt.
XD
Lmao if they had better designs and not just Logo
It's the same reason I never wore anime merch even when my power level was st it's peak. Anime fans are garbage why would I wanna meet more and have them talk to me because they saw my shirt
^
I hate when people walk up to me to talk when I never met them before or even care to listen to them
was surrounded by weebs since high school and to this day I wear a lot of anime merch. but it's different now because my friend group is different
Like... leave me alone and let me drink my 2 shot of vodka coffee
I hid my power level outside of my friends. I made sure they were just "anime fans" and not weebs.
actually maybe anime merch isn't the right word? more like anime styled merch
More like stickers on a shirt
I groomed them from highschool to the pedigree cultured savants they are today.
Lmao
lol
Groomer gang
Lol
Without me they would've been the biggest weeb garbage I swear
RIP
Not like I'm miles away from everyone else that exists in another town
But least I get to sleep for once without 7pm to 3am music blasting from everyone that lives in other homes
Get a VR sugar daddy then Dain
But don't find fakes
my town is poopoo as well
but like i got 4 years till i can make a decision about anything sooo
The nearest town has a shut down fast food, shut down bank and a very bad McDonald's
my town has one McDonalds and farms and lakes
Oh here has one huge lake
Gotta be sure, you live in the US right?
average age is probably like 60+
I don't
Canada
They might
Why the fuck do your towns have MCd's then
Only the largest towns here got a MCd close to the highway connections or cities lmao
Theres McDonald's in every town in Wales, even ones that aren't that big but still taste like crap and find chicken parts in the nuggets
Well dont get mac then
its so dead here. the internet is the majority of my social interaction now
I can damn relate to that
so I finally figured out that VRC was defo crappy last night due to update and I couldnt see my friend list properly...
Yeah, speaking about the update.. Before I could easily see avatars, but now everyone (including myself) has broken avatars where they dont show up. The default avatar doesnt even show up. Is anyone else experiencing bugs like this?
@covert steeple You playing on a really old machine or a notebook?
i heard the update broke the game but i have no problems
i dont play vr so maybe that is why but idk
No, not really. It used to work, so Im a bit confused
Make sure then that your windows is up to date, that your GPU is up to date and if those are all perfectly up to date then you can try updating your directx drivers
All right, thank yoy for the help :)
maybe they hang out in private worlds with friends they made?
I'm in home world unless I'm not
go crash the party
A new networking and IK system should make our connections better? well that was a lie lmao
Not sure how you made that logic leap
maybe ure braindead
Is that rude?
Private just means "not public" so they could be friends+
new ik system making your connection better isnt something people were saying to begin with
ping
Do you know anything other about networking beside ping and down/upload speeds?
Just checking how complex i can explain it
Well my stomach is utherly fucked IRL from eating spoiled food
So saying im braindeath aint too far off
Hmm yes, the floor is flood
mmm
Is the game still recovering from like a DDOS attack?
ddos attack?
been trying to resolve and issue for about a week and a half now, and when I asked on Reddit, the only person to reply told me they had one Friday night and to be patient
They always announce if a big attack happens so thats bullshit from that user
Also send in a support ticket to the team and actually get a respondse and it prob solved instead of waiting for it to solve on its own
ye it IS unplayable
I dunno wtf you talking about I am playing it rn and no glitches
good for you
fake news mic
all 13.7K users are robots from russia
good thing I started learning russian!
damn the agenda has been exposed
I am thinking of learning Russian and German
better learn russian if robots sent by putin are taking over vrchat
Yes
Especially sense I joined a world no one spoke English only one language I don't know of, in the Great Pug thing
Hoi all
this update is awful
russian is a weird langauge. Or atleast the grammar is weird. Like you dont have "a" in the langauge like in "this is a bottle of vodka". You just say "Это водка" and thats it (translated word for word means "this (is) vodka"
I dunno the IK and performance boost doesn't seem that awful 🙂
everyone moves so smoov
Well that's good
https://twitter.com/hazuki_vr/status/1245630032560541696 @rigid crescent
Is that a gif of old vs new version of VRchat?
Yeah I was at a few dance club maps and even before that could tell the difference immediately
I couldnt really tell the difference (might also be that I dont have that much bandwith to begin with)
@vocal shard Jup
@broken plover Its hard to notice it directly as there are a shit ton of subtile improvements
Heads now should nod when the other person nods for example. Before it wasnt a thing
The new is so much smoother and less all over the place
I did notice that me slightly nodding went through to the person I was talking to instead of just slightly moving my head a bit and them not realizing it, but other than that I didnt really notice that big of a difference, but that could also be that I dont have a direct comparison. It did seem a bit better now that I think about it though
Question is there a member of the VRC support team in here?
There is most in here, tho support is not done on Discord
You can ask users on here in #user-support-old (USERS!) and maybe they can help
Else you need to submit a ticket if you need official support.
I submitted a ticket I just want to talk to someone from VRC real quick
That's not how that works tho 
Oh
This is my first time haveing to do this so
I’ve been playing for 2 years and never had an issue till just now lol
They really only handle stuff over tickets
That way they can logg down things and if you need deeper support it goes over a secure channel
Oh...well that sucks...so much for getting some help :/
sup gamers
LaGuHH cruhashhhing ahhhhhhhh
._.
selam
;-;
steamvr can go f itself
Which part of it?
They probably trying to use it for FBT
Oof
Well its VRchat for ya
Which is impossible because people almost do anything in the game
We were already using network ik
It's just been updated
Whatever happens in VRchat, stays in VRchat
It's a new build of it to help accuracy. Previously a year or two ago we were using a different IK system that was more accurate, but caused some more lag. We switched to network ik a while back, and that helped performance, but was inaccurate. Now network ik has been updated to look smooth and accurate again

pretty sure they rewrote a big part of it to improve literally everything

rewritten yeah
now has dynamic rates so when people are close / in view they sync more to you then when you are far away
And cause less lag
Like if it was like Destiny then my PC would be dead, because it can't handle Destiny at all
I mean with load everything at once
Kinect is a cheap alternative to Vive trackers. You need the Kinect, an adapter to plug it into your pc, the Kinect drivers, and a program like kinect2vr or driver4vr
dont expect good tracking form a kinect tho
is there a memory leak with avatars? Everytime someone load in my fps hits 5 lol then back to 90
its always been like that for some reason
Its only latest update It started occuring, atleast worst.
ironically they fixed many memory leaks
I was using like 90% ram usage just afking in pug lol
ye.. well the pug is also a bit of a shitter for RAM aswell
But the thing is, i restart my game it always just sits at 30% usage
unles i hit 1-2hrs, then its like 80-90 lol
thats unity for you lol
happens to me aswell, just restart the game like... every 30 mins
every 30 mins?
ye, so your ram doesnt die
Hi I have a question
How do I turn down the graphics
My pc sometimes cant handle it
Hold shift when you start the game. It will open up a separate window for graphics
why is my migrated project a bunch of missing prefabs
Is there some kind of form to report someone?
oh, true. Thanks!
Played for two hours and got bad eye strain 😦
did they roll out an update?
anyone getting that issue where everyone voice is like coming from somewhere else
anyone else crashing as soon as the world loads in?
me and two of my other friends avatars are not avaliable
it just suddenly happened
same for me and my friend
yeah same
any idea as to what happened
same, probably something broken again
probably
yh i cant log on at all
this is weird
server messing up probbaly
oof well all of my favorite avatars are not available dam
oooof
with all this unity 2018 madness...I wonder if things well be stable for vket 5...
lots sponsors on the line
avatars are back!!!!!!!
avatars seem to back
well there back now
is anyone elses friends list broken?
Didnt update today after i added new friends but otherwise seemed to work
Mine doesn't work either
So yeah
Hi
Before the update this game was my favorite game. I'm at 700 hours since christmas. I planned on getting full body next month. After this update, I can't even speak while an avatar is loading in without it lagging. My ping skyrockets if I'm playing with my eu friends. Public rooms are basically out of the question now. It's great knowing a game that once worked perfectly once before is now unplayable for me.
Did they remove the ability for a quest player to glide?
Maybe. I was able to glide earlier with touch controllers
@echo sigil the lag is due to the amount of web traffic caused by corona virus
and the past few days they have locked down alot more places
I just find it convenient that immediately after the update released is when all of these problems I've never had before started appearing. I did a clean reinstall of the game with no luck
Like minutes before the update I was fine. Minutes after it begins
Yeah
I can say from the quest side that this update made it so I cant even go into a world with 5 or more players
Yeah I'd imagine the quest would have a hard time
I get great ping with my american and canadian friends
The second I'm in a room with 3 eu players my ping hits 1000
Like quest users are used to crashing but I've never heard a pc or pcvr player black screen
Until now
Yeah my friends have been experiencing that lately
This update clearly wasn't ready to launch in this state
So vr chat messed up big time making even pc players black screen and ruining it for questers I hope they fix this quick or I'm going to start playing rec room again
A lot of players are fine. If you have great internet then you're good aside from the 90% gpu bug
I'm not fine since my internet is moderate
what? really? you would rather spend time with a bunch of 10 year old kids than vrc?
Lol
I'd rather just sit there depressed unable to play the game without my ping being 900
Well if I can't even get into vrc then might as well deal with toxic ten year olds
write a ticket to support...and focus on other things. It will pass. It is just a question of time
I'm working on avatars on the side until things clear up
Focus on other things? It's really easy to just set aside the game I spend 12-16 hours on every single day
lmao vrchat is so broken rn, rip update
Yep
I also need to figure out if I need to fix anything on my avatars
But if I'm going to be unable to play with a stable ping then what's the point
They said something in announcements about some problem with the sdk but I don't understand a bit of it
I'm not a avatar creator
I see
Your ping is kinda caused by your ISP tho
Other people should nto dirrectly effect that so far i understand with VRC systems
I don't have the patience to create my own avatars
So I'll use the best one I find in a avatar world
Yeah I'm really not sure. My internet was fine with vrc all along until the update. I used to play music and everything using the internet. Now with just my pc using the internet everything else in my house having the wifi off and nothing updating in the background, the second a player joins my game my ping jumps, and earlier my ping wouldn't stay below 300 with my 3+ eu friends
Really disheartening to basically say "sorry, I can't speak to you since my ping is too high. I'll talk to you whenever they fix it."
American and canadian friends? 5 in a world with perfect ping
I had that problem as well. I don't know whether or not the ticket I submitted helped, but that problem seems to be resolve from my end. If I am fixed, it means that support is aware of the connection stability right now.
I hope so
and they might attempt to fix the same problem for other users
I really would like to continue playing this game. It's become my second life lol
yeah, I get that. A lot of people here see vrc as a second life. More so know with the pandemic
It helps me stay social
And I get the sense that the support team knows
I detailed what works and what did not work in terms of connectivity in my ticket
The more detail the better
I think also telling them your region might give them a hint what went wrong on their end
apparently my avatar had an issue for quest. none of my friends told me. now this update has made it hard or impossible to fix
What kind of issue?
do images work here?
appears not
basically all my clothes are black after a remodel which my editor didn't check if,it was good or not
but none, none of my quest friends said anything
not sure, i know next to nothing about avatars but the person who edited it does
Either it is trying to use more than 1 mesh, or it's the shader
they tried fixing it but it didnt work
This problem came with unity 2018, or did it exist with 2017
i think the reason the fix didnt work is cuz of all the new update bugs
Shaders definitely seem to be taking a hit with 2018
I think it might be your issue. Do you know which shader your avatar is using?
again my editor knows but i dont, i could ask him
Totally off topic question but anyone know sirenkiller?
just asked him, waiting on reply
Take your time!
do you know much about avatars?
why can't i upload my milk carton avatar
Did you update the project to 2018 AND import the new sdk2?
well i dont have the right trust level
Was the VRChat problem fixed yet? Can people get in now?
People have been able to get in. It's the skyrocketing ping that's the issue
hmm
@plush plinth if you have the project click on the model and see on the bottom right should show the shaders being used
.. again my editor has all the files.
Yes
@vocal shard to rank up have a bit of time playing
People have to add you
Not you sending them friend requests
And being in public worlds not afk
Ah, so everything is just real laggy right now then
You should really get into avatar making @plush plinth
breathe
Your editor might even be willing to teach you
i want to, i just need to do research and he probably could
ah, i do have 2 meshes
idk, i checked my stats,
Here
i can see,the number but not the contents
not sure how,to do that
I sent a pm
dm
Anybody know what would cause me to always get VRChat installation Helper to popup after closing VRChat every time?
I already let it fix it so i can use links to open worlds.
Hit the "don't show this message again"
Click
I saw that ping awesomeXMaster
a synonym for a synonym 😉
Is anyone else having the dark gui issue with 2018 right now?
I've only found one other person who's experiencing it
It's literally unbearable to work in Unity when shit is this dark
and yet not many people seem to have the same issue, damn annoying
what vrheadset should i get
i've never done any vr things
im thinking of getting the valve index
@elder badger If you have the budget and are able to wait about 8 weeks sure go for it, it's one of the best you can get
@grand zealot you cleared your cache right?
I'm not talking about vrchat
the update woke me up XD hi there
I'm talking about Unity
dont know
No problem...i mean i'm still fighting with the new SDK for now, seems to fail the install despite the usual (delete meta, folder and plugins directory)
@grand zealot well...if you don't noone will..., try to check your log if you have some and try to clean install it
😐
How come whenever i join a world i keep falling
@blazing lion could be a lot of thing, your avatar, the world etc, was it ok before the update?
I mean i played the world like 5 days ago and it was fine
did you tried another avatar and another world?
Im in the home world right now with the same avatar and everythings fine
possible that the update broke something on the said world, try the problematic world with another avatar, if the same happen you have your answer ;)
hiii
hi
Wich movie
Sup hoes
ey
humm I have to retract what I mentioned earlier about how the server seems better for me. I still have a horrible ping but only in mildly to heavily populated worlds and only when people constantly switches avatars.....
from what i've heard the new update broke more things than it added/fixed huh


