#vrchat-general-2
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Lol
@wide tundra I have no idea why this fixes the problem, but I have found that unplugging my router power and restarting the computer and then plug in the router in after the computer has restarted fixes it and let me connect to VRChat. I think something gets cached wrong and this fixes it
Regardless of why it seems to fix it every time for me. Definitely an overkill solution
does anyone here know how to add a item to a avatars hand or something?
guys if u wanna go to never have i ever right now just be careful the guy called zeporiah or what his name is is running around and lagging everyone
this monkey tried to ping 50k people 😂
sry
I fixed it. my pihole was blocking config.uca.cloud.unity3d.com cdp.cloud.unity3d.com ns.exitgames.com
nice to see the same name being mentioned for weeks :)
g'day'
@languid beacon hey adeon didn't you say that you have the money for valve index and you said that they don't have it in stock? just to remind you that index is restocking next monday
hi there
I'm interested to buy some universal vr controller
and i read that it support android,pc and partially io's
i read that this controller has 360 Degree Movement Location with High precision control
does it mean that this vr controller has gyroscope ?
any help please
If you plan on buying that thing to use it with vrchat (but without a headset) dont.
Sound's like a simple controller for smartphone vr.
if you wanna play vr you need a full PC VR setup, not just any controllers. (Or the Oculus Quest)
Be careful, there’s a person in the Avatar Testing place changing avatars of other people.
@slate verge yup I got their email. I’ll be at work and will most probably miss it
Thanks, though!
i think if you order it, it will auto fill in
I’ll just have to wait until they can maintain a decent stock
thats fine too
Refresh that browser like a bad habit come monday.
Yeah I just don’t want to spend they money and then wait months
place the order and refresh lol
XD
i would do it, but such at a bad time....i only have $512
only enough for the rift s
😭
Were their controllers fixed?
no? index controllers still has issues i think
Don't want to put an order in and have to deal with known hardware issues in a month
Rip
someone fighting with some vive pro user in the comment section of a video said that just a few day one units had that issue
sometimes i wonder if they even try to fix RMA-ed controllers
but knowing how business works, their workers are pretty lazy to even check
Wonder if the virus affects that
Might as well wait until they are easily obtainable with fixed controllers
nope
controllers being broken is a day one thing and valve just don't care to overlook, they think its near perfect
Fumar cumaé
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Ggjgdbjrv chuteira big brother que ele não vai daria pra vc ir aí pra casa e o outro dia pra min é só pra mim e pra ela usar o celular tá carregando não vai dar pra min é só isso que eu tô com a cabeça e não tô conseguindo falar com é um daqueles dias como eu
I guessed, and was correct
so its portuguese?
Should be
doesnt even look like a language to me
me neither i was confused
just looks like words from some languages spammed together
anyone wanna dm, im bored
weird
I know
hai
haaaaaaaaaaaai
@ruby needle
yes i agree
but the thing is that i already have VR-smartphone with headset
that is emulated trough RIFTCAT
which work's excellent in vrchat and other vr games.
so i think...
when i read info on unbranded VR controller that has 360 motion control
so i think that it have gyro
am i correct?
Uhm
I have a strange screen appearing on vr chat whenever I log in
is it normal? it says "No Sightz"
probably not
Oh, and there is even a giant bloody anime girl with it... I definitely think I got hacked by someone
Well, I dunno. It's just like everytime I join on vrchat so I think it's the only way to call this
if you have a vrchat account you can on vrchat website
The thing is that it's pretty hard as I literally don't even see the menu
and reset your avatar
the thing is that I play via Steam
either use ctrl + / (on the numpad) to try and reset the avatar before you load into it
if that doesn't work you'll have to contact support
Afterwards you should really create a vrchat account and link your steam account to it
https://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/24-i-want-to-turn-my-steam-oculus-account-into-a-vrchat-account/
Using a steam account for other than just quickly trying the game has just downsides
What is the best VR Headset to use for VRChat?
idk
index
index
What about an Oculus Rift S?
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Where can I ask for help?
depend what help you need
Someone forced changed my avatar and my entire view is just an Animegirl with the text NoSightz on it
and I can't open the menu
you have a vrchat account ?
No, steam
yikes
contact the support then
clear cache then spam ctrl + \ when loading in
it'll reset your avatar from the crasher
How do you clear your cache?
Valve Index and Oculus Rift S are the two best Vr headsets for VRChat right now. One is 999 usd and the latter is 399 usd. Buy the one in your price range they are both worth their price tags
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
Okay, Thank you!
👍
How do you do backslash? I have swedish keyboard
oh hmm
Ok
ive just been cross checking user support since i never use the reset avatar function ingame
@gilded helm help this fellow swedish person out
hello
Oh yeah
english speaking devs are retarded and don't understand that other languages exist
you can probably bypass it by installing the english language onto windows
one key is tied to backslash on your keyboard
you jsut have to find it if you set your keyboard lang to english
yes
I tried with normal slash. didn't work
contact support then
is normal slash a key on us keyboards?
/ yes
ah
yes
english devs
Well if you have the keypad that is right?
very smart
i dont have a keypad
okay
its been on literally every US keyboard ive ever used
on the german layout / is right next to num lock
No, Steam
not a vrchat acc lmao
😔
contact the support.
will support even reset your avatar
If this doesn't work I will just make a VRchat account
yes
where is the / key located
On swedish keyboard it should be Control + §
I fixed it!!
ayyyy 👏
But how do I change the profile picture?
hmmm
classic dev moment
But I have a hatsune miku avatar but it's still the picutre
it doesnt update immediatly.
Also is there a way to block people from being able to change your avatar?
afaik no
there is, but it's not allowed
why?
well yeah but i dont count that as a legitimate method
uses a modded client, which is against TOS
Well I just have to watch out
atleast now I know how to change if something like that happens again
stupid but i guess devs dont want to do anythjign about it
i dont even know why it works but whatever
just avoid public instances, although technically you aren't even safe cuz your username appears on the online list
Yea devs don’t care about security dw
Thanks, all fixed and ticket sent, i thought i had my sheild on custom
hey, so im a noob in this game, I want to talk and socialize, but when i join a world all i usually see and hear are obnoxious and screaming kids, is it always like this?
Depends what lobbies you join plenty are more laid back and chill
But you are on the internet. If you care that in a room of 30 people there is a group of 4 kids you maybe should adjust your idea's of the game
oh, okay , thanks for the response
Also what time of day you play changes a lot
Some timezones are really popular for younger teenagers because of school
I prefer gmt evening as you seem to get more mature people btw (that probably only applies to Europe)
Some things I just can't stand about VRChat, but I don't wanna push anything, some people can't take criticism. (My Anger issues are peak)
||I feel like I am being silenced||
does anyone know how i would go about getting my avatar to sit or lay on the floor without FBT (someone said i need (Playspace Mover) but that didnt help
OVRAS
Oh wait, without fbt
Custom animation override on your avatar
There are a few free sitting and laying down ones on booth
I can't really feel anger even if I try. It's not a bad thing to have some personality
The apathetic miss even pain. Personality is attractive
Sorry about the timing but I'm off, good night
@fossil agate Exactly what Aria said. Custom animation override. Also, hello fellow Ambiguous person!
I just happened to have clicked the channel just as the message appeared. Reacted within 10 seconds~
@hollow ingot won a free deep fried shader lol https://gyazo.com/65da3b8a6f68b0abdff74c0d80b66e87
thanks for curing my boredom
lol
legit rigged
Maybe next time
nah rigged
Actually i'm still bored, first person to give me the answer to what 16 x 16 is gets a free song lol. (Spoiler alert, the answer is something nerdy)
Last time I will do this xD
dope
lemme render this out real quick xD
oof your settings keep me from messaging u lol
guess i'm gonna hit up someone else
oof u really had to do it to em
yeah i was also gonna send you 77652$ but your dm's are off
so guess i'll find someone else
awhhh maaaaaan
yeah sorry dude
I have seen some negative chat with my name attached. Y?
Y not
everyone beware! theres a hacker going around force changing avatars to be blinded by an image and earrape! it has its name in the image so if you encounter the hack write the name down and use the website to change to the default as theres no way of opening the menu with the image!
then report him...
You can also press Ctrl \ to reset your avatar if you don't have access to the website
hey there was a person that changed everyone's avatar to something that blinds you and now i can't look at the menu to change my avatar is there anything I can do to change my avatar?
two in a row, if we get 3 i heard we all win a holiday retreat!
I havent encountered any hackers yet. But it sounds really easy for people to hack on vrchat
i miss the good old days that they don't have the features that mess with the hud
There, is hackers in here and a lot of people who’ll also crash you on purpose which, is a problem.
im lucky i havent encountered any hackers yet.
didn't think a sith pure blood would complain
i go in a public world to visit a friend i find him by the mirror with like one zoidberg hommer model a joker that is almost naked doing loud rap music and a loli blasting sounds and a female thick avatar acting like a prosotute
what's strange about that
oh yea and now a alien playing a kkk song with the iron man theme song infront of the mirror on his mic
I’m at the great pug on the 2nd floor I look like Inuyasha there’s only me and another person in this pug.
I want SO MANY avatars to save but have only 16 slots to save
Same here, I like all the Dead by Daylight avatars that, there are.
Have you favorited the world(s)?
Yes, I have I save all the ones I like expect for the ones that pop up when you open the worlds tab.
My name on here is the same in vrchat so if you do see me come say hi.
You guys aware of this new griefing thing where your avatar randomly changes and it infects your client and if you go into another room it infects other people and they accuse you of griefing? Because that just happened to me.
Been like that for a few weeks now
does anyone have asmr chan?
.f @little plaza
Wait, how the hell?! There's no way to infect clients! Only way I see is a client user somehow modding remotely your game. @foggy pecan
While it is indeed possible for modified clients to trick your client into changing to a different avatar, they can't just manipulate your client code.
Could possibly be a screen space shader on that avatar that renders something on everyone's screen, but why would you not immediately switch out of the malicious avatar?
people were accusing me of switching peoples avatars when i moved to a new room after i was attacked by someone switching peoples avatars. after I cleared my cache and restarted my client, it stopped
Weird.
now that i've thought about it, it's possible their was another person in there with a modded client griefing and i was being accused.
Yes. That's what's possible.
people were blocking me and voting to kick me and was freaking out.
I felt soo bad like i was a carrier of a virus
If someone starts to excessively black you and vote kick you, run away! @foggy pecan It can destroy your truat rank.
Corona virus is even in vrchat 😔
Also one type of attack is, that the attacker selects a person and then launches a mass block attack trough automatized users via VRChat's web page to rip people's ranks.
oh my gawd
Yeah
The rank system is a double edged sword, on one hand an absolute asshat can get blocked because of his asshattery and he rightfully looses his rank, but on the other hand an even bigger asshat can just spam block someone they remotely dont like using a client and in rightfully take his rank to shit
You guys got some prof pics?
Yes
A couple
You sharin'?
It's not much of a double edged sword seeing as the rank doesn't matter to begin with
if you get spam block, it all appears in the API so there's no reason you can't just report it to support/moderation
Isn't there any voice channel? Or is it because Im no vrfd yet?
there arent any voice channels here. The game is a big voice chat already
and its hard to moderate voice channels
Yeah that makes sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1CKiO8CbEs
This song is too good
Hey guys, trying to help a friend out. Any idea how to disable hand poses/gestures when moving around in-game? My friend just got a Rift S and his avatar emotes when he's trying to move around.
They need to keep their index finger resting on the trigger. touching the trigger while they touch their thumb on the thumbstick is the resting hand gesture.
Heyo
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Question, how do I rank up in VRChat?
I have almost 40 hours and I'm still a New User
play more. I have 376 hours and I'm trusted user
Morning
@scenic fern play more, make friends/have people add you, explore different worlds, dont try and AFK to pad your game time it doesnt work, when you can start uploading avatars and worlds.
Okay. Also, is there anything I can do if I see like a kid play the game and you can tell they are under 12?
I know the game is supposed to be 13+
record it, or just provide any kind of evidence and report it trough #moderation-reports
@scenic fern
g'day mate
@scenic fern Most likely not since you have no proof of their real age unless they mention it
i know one way to detect kids from adults who uses a childs voice
Open hand, pointing, and fingergun gesture overrides are the bane of oculus users. They always trigger accidentally
It’s good to keep them non-intrusive like closed eyes on open hand is common
Stuff with sound or spawning stuff on open hand is bad
Spawning stuff on fist is equally as bad for the vive, as it usually instantly triggers as soon as the avatar loads
Since you do it when you literally aren’t touching the controller
#desktopOptimized
Ironically fist is a safe one for oculus
Even with how much people shit on the Vive controllers for being bad, when it comes to gesture control in VRChat, they're superb
Everything would be solved if they just gave us all gesture toggle instead of making it index exclusive

I would honestly keep it off I actually prefer oculus’s method of hand gesture matching
Tying them to face animations is harmless and cute but annoys me if the hand poses don’t match anymore
Then again, it also means people randomly do all sorts of facial expressions unrelated to the situation
@covert blade you can override the index controls for gestures to work like the vive ones if you want, or you can have BOTH!
general question! Does anyone with an RTX have a report on the new VRSS in vrchat yet?
now that it's officially supported by nvidia
That’s why I try to make them relevant. Happy closed eyes works well for Open hand it also makes a nice afk cuz your avatar closes its eyes lol
Peace is usually something positive and fist negative and rock out silly
I avoid thumbs up as it happens constantly when holding a pickup or using the big menu
too easy to pull, yeah
Interesting, though I only own Vive controllers and dont have much issues with gestures @Lhun
i have rtx, but i didn't even know vrss is a thing i'll check it out later
for sure! but, if you wanted to rebind something, steam has an incredible system for that
Opening oculus dash forces open hand so friends have learned closed eyes means busy or afk or just I can’t see you
most people don't know it exists, but there's an entire section where you can rebind your entire controller layout no matter what vr controller you have
valve needs to push that more, because it fixes literally every game
that has issues with controls
VR is still quite new so issues comes out as expected tbh
also, I believe you can enable gesture toggle for any controller that way. 🙂
I mean, I'm poor as f
I don't know controls in vr that much
I can definitively tell that it's gonna get dizzy lol
touch controllers rise up!
Yeah I remapped jump away from joystick click on oculus to one of the face buttons, makes wall spam much easier
And makes me feel like I’m killing my controllers less; excessive joystick clicks feels rough
yo're correct there. I immediately remap joystick click if it exists
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1545634111 here's Valve's controller rebinding guide
it works for every controller, oculus, windows mixed reality, index, whatever you use
most games (including vrchat) have steam control bindings for the game. For example, "jump" and "gesture toggle" and "quickmenu" are all defined by vrchat itself as actions.
so you can make something on the controller one of those things. You can also simulate keypresses with chords, which is handy.
Wait are you saying oculus touch can have gesture toggle on the steam version of vrc?
yep
Boost this on reddit or something omg
here's how to enable VRSS for VRChat if you have a nvidia RTX card: https://uploadvr.com/how-to-enable-nvidia-vrss/ it will probably improve your performance a lot, or at least making having sharp visuals nbd without tanking performance due to SS.
VRSS is automatically applied to a game where you are using MSAA, and it's a bit technical but vrchat usually "always uses" msaa. Because of the lens predistortion filter, and the way VRSS changes the image in a spiral pattern, if you're going for performance most of all, try setting your steamvr supersampling to 1.0-1.4 instead of adaptive since VRSS works passively on spare frametime.
they do interact with one another in weird ways and not every game likes it
but since nvidia certified vrchat, it must be working well
I just wanna know HOW well so I can justify a 2080ti in my future
or 3k series whenever that is
I’m guessing you can’t rebound touch on pure oculus?
Sup
if you're not running through steam, nope
valve needs to market their advancements more, they've done so much for vr
Vrc didn’t make it
all these little things people don't know about 😦
Didnt they release the plans for index's screens and lenses a billion years ago
To be fair I sort of live exclusively in the oculus SDK. The SteamVR version of VRChat lags me pretty bad
Nd the whole reason why index exists is because nobody else in the industry used those parts, so they made a headset themselves?
if you nix oculus home it performs the same as vive or index hardware because it can be more directly rendered, but that requires some workarounds
windows mixed reality on the other hand has a brilliantly designed passthrough with very little overhead
Valve is still cool
no, not at all,
people talk about valve like theyve been dead inside for a decade when its more or less been like 3 years
Gabn and many others at valve are very passionate about vr. They want to be like nintendo and make games around the controller, not adapt to it
Mhm
that's why they tried steam machines and steam controller
Steam contrroller was cool and i kind of want to get my hands on one but no money
Steamlink tho is fucking awesome
I have all of those 🙂
praise valve
luckyy
steamlink on TVs is also great
steam con have been discontinued tho havent they?
praise gaben
they sold the rest for like 5€
Nah i think the only discont. Thing was the steamlink box
steam controllers have gone the way of the dodo because they use that facility to mfg the index now
the index is only ASSEMBLED in china
valve really needs to get more factories if they want to continue developing vr hardware
fun fact: Valve owns one of the largest fully automated manufacturing facilities in north america
theey need to get more metal extractors
still not enough lmao
Didnt it used to be the largest until elon musk's crotch touting giga factory
Yeah thats what i thought
Tucked away in buffalo grove IL...
is literally aperture science
this is an incredible video if you haven't seen it. Just imagine all that stuff making the index now.
did they really put aperture on their machines?!
LOL yep
Mhm
thats so fucking cool I love that
so yeha, when people say "valve is deaddddd!" because they haven't released things I'm like lul wut
no, they've just been re-writing linux for gaming and literally building hardware and machines
bbbbut theyre not making stuff for the superior desktop platform :<<<<
uhh uhh fuck cloud gaming and VR
btw, proton and WINE were also taken over by valve
nobody can escape the logic of boomeronics
I mean didnt they release the splitscreen online thingy recently?
most games now run on linux nbd
huh. Interesting
often just as fast
install mint, install steam, play your games
vr is a bit jank still
Oh yeah, im supposed to be monitoring for when linux VR support gets better
but they're working on it
most games work fine. VRChat uses some special systems so while it works, it's weird
personally portal 2 is my favorite valve game and the first title that I ever played from them was portal 1 so I really love the fact they did this lmao
"special" systems
I already own two 1.0 base stations and three 2.0 body trackers. Should I just get the 750 usd index or go for the full 1K to get newer base stations? Worth it?
I tried vr on ubuntu a a few days ago
@languid beacon I use 1.0 base stations so I have backup controllers and HMD
get the kit without the base stations
2.0 basestations will not operate 1.0 hardware
it was laggy as hell and the tracking had like a 2 second delay so it made me feel terrible but thats probably just my case and I need to do some extra work
@hollow sluice you might have had a driver issue or you were not going through proton.
3d is actually better on linux for a few very, very technical reasons
but for example blender will render 50% faster
I mean steam vr doesnt need proton
its natively supported. And it didnt make a difference anyways
I tried steamvr home and beat saber and both had same issues
ubuntu by default does not install the closed source gpu driver
so that's probably what it was
honestly yes since it refused to accept anything than a generic nvidia driver
so yeah I probably had the wrong gpu drivers
@languid beacon but 2.0 hardware works on 1.0 base stations, so it's good to save your money
yeah but 2.0 last longer
at least until you HAVE to replace them. HTC is still mfging 1.0 basestations
and all that
My 1.0 stations have lasted since the day they were released with the vive
if you have 1.0 just keep them untill they break
Speaking of headset durability
2.0 DOES offer better reflection fixes and wider spaces. They have SLIGHTLY better fidelity, but if you set your room up right it's hard to notice. 2.0 hardware offers that too, so it's a mixed bag
My anxiety goes up every day that i touch my oculus cord
Im the only person who hasnt had to go ut of my way to replace it but its been seeing some pretty big touching for the past two years
How it hasnt even gashed open yet is beyond me
I replaced my vive 3n1 two times 😦
But i have a hunch that its days arelimited
Because cords are stupid. So i might have to go to ebay soon
I regret buying a wmr headset everytime I turn it on
Damn nico :<
that's unfortunate! I own all of them and WMR is one of my favorites
the performance of WMR is astounding, actually. Most people have two issues with it
For me
1: bluetooth set up wrong
2: controller tracking, which is usually due to wrong batteries!
Wmr fr when i briefly used it and according to my friends
Is a good product trapped inside the engineering of a company who doesnt know that it's a good product
WMR is also the only device with a full sixed touch trackpad AND stick, lol
Theyre decent, apart from the tracking. I'm not talking about that it constantly glitches around. I'm talking about when I enable it, in 90% of the time, it doesnt detect my room. Even if I did everything to get the optimal detecion it still mostly doesnt find my room and I have to either walk around my room for 5 minutes or set it up again and then have my kinect offset
oh, how dark/barren is your room @broken plover
Like there's little things that bother me. Why not add more cameras? Why do so many use halo straps? Why is there hyper focus on certain components (screens) and not others (audio)
two cameras means the sensorfusion tracking is actually faster lint
Just stuff like that which makes me believe that all the WMR shippers
for head only
makes sense
I always switch on the lights, and when I see through the "flashlight" in the wmr I can clearly see everything (apart from the low resolution and the grey only thing)
it does that very, very well. Stupidly well even, better in some cases than rift S and better than cosmos by a mile, somehow
still, WMR companies had the R&D to beat oculus to a "mixed-reality insight" system, no?
okay, so to make head tracking work well you need "noise" in the room
high contrast pictures that the system can remember
windows mixed reality can actually tell the difference between rooms
like, you can set up two room,s and your tracking volume will modify itself to a different tracking volume
Woa
if it recognizes the room
I got stuff at almost every wall, but even when a wall is empty, its colored at the bottom half and the top half is white
So, here's what I reccomend doing
print out some black and white tracking glyphs
you don't need a lot of them at all, just a few. Just some simple, high contrast, easy to identify pages. Put one up high, one up low, and on blank walls. Make them artistic if you want. They should all be different enough that you couldn't confuse the algorithm.
Tracking glyphs are next level
clear your tracking data in mixed reality home
then set it up again.
the next time you put on your headset, make sure to look up and down, and side to side... and wait 5-10 seconds
windows will "catch up" and you'll see (hear if you turned on siri) a message that says "WAIT, I figured it out!"
and it'll snap in
all windows needs is something unmistakable to go "aha! I've been here!"
also making sure your chair is in the same place every time you start too
I've done some development using the WMR sdk, they put SO much work into it
also make sure you're using 1.5v batteries and if your headset doesn't have a bluetooth built in, make sure your bluetooth dongle is line of sight to your placespace. Turning off 2.4ghz wireless and only using 5ghz helps a ton too
all of that will get better in gen 2
but yeah, wmr is super underrated!
the supersampling algo is second to none too
plus like, the samsung od+ has one of the best screens next to the index, and it's like 250$! o.o
and it has the lowest system requirements, too.
I want megahard to make WMR gen 2
but yeah, they uses tracking glyphs in big microsoft convention demos for that reason. 🙂 oculus uses a "patternwall" too for big quest things
Beat the rift s(hit)
i don't know how, but i've never seen that done before. that's really cool.
imo wmr just feels cheap. The controllers feel like really cheap plastic (compared to the vive wands) and also the fact that there is no built in audio (not even a mic). I know that the built in audio issue is resolved on the odyssey and odyssey+, but theyre not even available outside of the USA
No arguments there. The controllers do feel cheap as fuck.
Although I do agree that WMR is impressive, despite its shortcomings like most of them having really poor lenses and distortion/dispertion compensation profiles.
I was able to get mine to continually track over about 100 meters, with someone carrying my laptop and making sure I didn't bump into anything.
So I have Oculus Touch controllers, but in SteamVR, Oculus Teach legacy bindings doesn't have Gesture toggle as an Boolean action. Unless I am actually expected to select Index controller as my controller in bindings for VRChat.
That'd be the only way to do it, and as far as I know VRChat does some rather hacky controller detection which renders that method useless.
VRChat is hacky in general it's fine
does somebody have an anime avatar with a sniepr on the back?
a small one which is like half the size of the normal vrchat avatar
Sounds like a crasher avatar.
I have a normal sized avatar with a sniper rifle on the back. (its my old personal avatar) and I also added the fortnite heavy sniper sound to it lol
@broken plover they were designed to be super light most of all. I actually prefer htem for beat saber.
Ugh Nico y u do dis?
it was 2018 and I wanted to hunt knuckles
nope it was a normal one @snow wadi i just loved it but it was a russian kid who had it and he left
@warped creek you need to create a non-legacy binding
I hope vrc ends up with a fully complaint bind path at some point! but for now you can do what @rough pulsar suggested
alternately! https://github.com/ousttrue/OpenVR-InputEmulator/ this up to date version of input emulator if you're feeling fancy
Don't assume it'll work either. Before VRC added basic index controller support I tried using SteamVR to tell VRC I was using Oculus Touch controllers and send those inputs and it told me to get fucked because it was detecting input type by which HMD was being used.
that must have changed because many people use vive pro with index controllers
I was using a Vive Pro at the time, from what I could gather the check was something like
if Oculus HMD use OculusTouch
else SteamVR
could that also be the reason why vrchat stopped showing vive controller outlines with the tooltips? It did before but after some update it stopped showing them. I want them to show again though...
I am not too sure how to add a non-legacy action too within SteamVR.
And like I said, this was before the Index Controllers had even been released.
I remember on one of previous beta versions I could see Vive wands instead of Touch controllers in my hands in-game.
I could be wrong here because I'm not in front of my computer but does steamvr allow you to make a new binding?
like completely new
Not as far as I can see.
Or actually it allows, but again, there is no Gesture Toggle.
start here, Start steamVR Open your browser, (old edge and IE don't work) paste in this url - http://127.0.0.1:8998/dashboard/controllerbinding.html
that'll make it easier to configure outside of vr
it might be that because the controller/headset are detected as rift there's some trickery going on here - but I could have swore that people using hybrid setups had gesture toggle
Or even easier, click on the SteamVR window menu and go to devices and then controller settings.
Yes, but it only allows me to select Vive Controller, Oculus Touch or None.
There is no Index Controller.
None of these show more actions, Hidden actions shows just an empty popup.
Okay, I tried something
I have no way to test right now but
I made you a binding
@warped creek
look for "test gesture toggle" in the bindings, I made a binding for touch controllers legacy and bound in the alias remaps
left "a button" which I guess is "x" and joystick press, might be gesture toggle, and right "a button"/joystick press should be jump
the action aliases might pass on, but maybe not
I do not see this binding in Community bindings though.
if not, I'll dig into it tonight, it should be possible to do
it might take some time to propigate. Is your current controller set to "touch"
Yes
this may have only set an alias, but I'm real sad right now because "pretend to be this type of controller" doesn't give index as an option
developer output was what I needed!
I think, unusually, it's bound to vive grip press left?
but the action needs to be there from the game itself
I'm a little distracted, but I want to help, there is a setting in developer called "Enable global input from overlays"
Any overlay app (like openvrinputemulator) that provides an action set priority between the min and max values above will override scene app actions bound to the same inputs. This is currently button-by-button, but there's some talk of making it apply to the whole controller according to joe. This will prevent the app from getting input, but if there's a will there's a way. I'll dig into this a bit and see if I can make it possible
according to the blog post from may 31st, the gesture toggle system was intended to be possible for all controllers at some point, but the current input documentation doesn't illuminate that. When I'm more free, I'll see what I can dig up
there's also the fact that oculuscrossplatform has it's own bindings in the exe that remaps a couple buttons to standard joystick buttons
I can't find the option for "Enable global input from overlays", assuming it is required for me.
I looked in developer settings for SteamVR.
sorry, no, it's not requred
this chat be like "wall of text" about now
that was a tangent from me
I was considering writing a program, but that could get complex and very specific really fast for one button
also, sorry, I'm really passionate about this
I feel like theres not many people on there
middle of the day, probably not
Timezones.
^
I feel like you have to play when the Americans are done with work
Easier said than done, I have a job, so either need to go to work or go to sleep early.
9k people "Not many on there"
there are 7.7billion people on earth so 9k isnt many (haha so funny)
I feel like it's too empty
But it really aint empty
hola
hey guys, yesterday uploaded a new world but it's only to be found vrchat.com not in the game menu ? anybody knows why?
Which version of Unity did you use to upload it?
Enable community labs in the settings
When a world is uploaded it enters community labs
Those worlds are not visible unless you enable it in the settings
Your own worlds appear in their own category unrelated to labs
good afternoon
@thick marsh
where can i find these settings, sorry im such a noob, first world ever for me
Which version of Unity did you use to upload it?
2017.4.28f1
yep
You just... talk to people and send friend requests?
the same as making friends in real life really

@thick marsh if you dm me your world id I can check why it's not showing up
it really isnt
Then what is your question exactly?
just talk to people and if you have the same interests BAM friendship
Except you do
do people need a guide on using their brain?
I interact with people, get to know them, and if I like 'em enough and want to meet them again, I'll send them a friend request
And over time if I get to see the person often enough afterwards, it'll likely become a proper friendship
Imagine forgetting what a medium is
Hmmmm
please
Convince me

Slowly steps away

I am a furry

isnt that great? dont you love those? arent they just wonderful wholesome people?
🤢
its the bad eggs and the fact that people want to hate someone so they just pick the furry community
because if a few members of a community do something bad the entire community has to be like that
literally any person thats not retarded knows thats just stupid
its not reasonable at all
hows someone saying that you should go kys and saying that you r*pe animals reasonable just because I have a furry pfp?
theres a reason to hate literally everything
bruh he vrchat
Insert PaciWut
@zinc nexus whats your point?
I have more lmao
I do
again whats your point?
why do you feel the need to mention that is what I dont get
is that a problem? are you jealous? I am confused
I also have 1088 in terraria lmao
Don't feed the troll Red
I disagree
Because you cannot change my opinion of people just by saying so
I should jump into vrc soonish
Sasha I am your friend and you cant change my opinion on that 😏
but you can literally say that about every community
No, I can't, but it'd be quite disappointing if that feeling wasn't mututal amirite? :)
And now imma have to go
Mmmm yes the minority being displayed as the broad mass in a bad way
Because people have no clue what they are talking about
Like the news!
You dont understand what im saying
The minority of furries, the extreme ones, are being displayed as the entire large community
They are because thats how our brain works
Ofc the 98% that aint bad wont stand out
Same with the vrchat community
Or "gamers"
Because the media draws a huge shadow on the 99% of people that act normal
and make the 1% seem like the whole community
they are not called weebs
again thats the minority
hello yes i am a furry what are we talking about here
Because they stand out more to normal people
Gaming is becoming more and more normal
Anime Fans
the minority is the weebs
just what sane people already know. that people love making the negative minority of a community represent the entire community
Oh my god
weaboos are people more obsessed with anime, but some people just call everyone weebs cause its easier ig
People who call everyone who says they watch anime a "Weeb" can cease
i call myself a weeb for shits n giggles but im not actually one
Same with people that thing just because someone plays video games is very brutal and agressive
@vocal shard can you stop
We are having a serious conversation here and you are saying completely irellevant things
we in the middle of talking here fam sorry :/
Can we please get thi channel back to VRChat related topics, thanks 
no
its heavily distracting
How about #vrchat-general-1 then?
^
just put vrchat in front of every sentence
🤣
now we are talking about vrchat weebs and vrchat oppression
weebs are weebs :O
I mean it theoretically is partially related to vrchat
as the vrchat community is also affected
I mean it ***theoretically is partially related *** to vrchat...
@molten gale
Not fully. Here is your problem
@zinc nexus okay what the fuck
i don't own a suit but i'm assuming that question's answer is a no
@zinc nexus no they dont
Minority
@copper pasture Suit?
again youre making the minority sound like the majoriy
i meant fursuit hecc
🤦♂️
you know that a lot of people wear dippers outside of the furry community right? You genuinely just want them to look bad, your entire point is malicious
he is
this convo is too much for me
honestly no question about it. Even if not and hes just an ignorant fuckhead he should be treated as a troll
Welp bye
IKR
good riddance
oh they got banned
Looks like not only #general-media is total randomness on this server...
random chat was full
hello all
hi
what u doing
I am doing
ok
anyone else having problems loging in?
I just got hit by an entirely new crasher
Just in case it hasn't been brought up before
Changed the avatar of everyone in the lobby and then everyone crashed
just figured it out.
it seems like for some reason "ns.exitgames.com" which vr chat uses is on my pihole blocklist
whitelisting immediately solved it
That's not new
is it mentioned somewhere?
Not officially
But people force switching others into crasher avatars? Yeah, happens, a lot too apparently which is why you can reset the avatar on the website
just met a force avatar changer, its stupid ass hell, probably smugging his ass off, but childish prank. Dumb kid.
hello
stoner moment
Lads, imma require some assistance. I'm learning multiple languages, and for now i need questions that i should learn how to said in those languages to get people in the internet to speak about something. So far I've been using "which city are you from" and "do you speak any other language". Ideas for good things to get people to speak?
it can be any other topics, but you can't force a "mute" to speak up
yeah i know that
yep, just be yourself. Maybe talk about your daily life a little bit for introduction.
talk about something popular and on-going such as the corona virus and what do they think of it
really enjoying the weekly blogposts btw, keep them up
Vrchat devs being idiots... Just openly talk about how u secure passwords.. GL sorting all the account thefts!!!
they said 0% about how they are securing passwords tho
sovling the issue part 3 is sadly on the users them self. (compromitting mod clients)
And passwords in plain texts watf!
they... didn't say they stored passwords as plaintext at all

ah yes the journal approach
its such a crafty piece of magnificent and a wonderful way to go about it
@leaden finch where did you get those lies you just said from?
woaa
it's been a knowledgeable thing that people know, people are curious
that was directed at Mimi too. The way to get around the leak was to put a special character/invisible one in the password.
that's not true at all
It seems someone here does not know a dime or nickel about passwords...
sigh This is why people dont say things. Some people don't listen what's wrong.
get around what leak tho
there was never a vrc password leak. the "leak" is people using custom clients that stole their passwords and login info
theres custom clients for vrc?
If ya say so
People make modded/hacked clients. They're bannable to use, but people do it anyway. But some who have used these shady clients have had their info stolen because they're logging into an unofficial client that who knows has access to
I am aware of this.
ah ok, i just login by steam so i had no idea that was a thing
That is not what I am referring to
The fact that you didn't even know about modified clients explains alot.
that i didn't?
did you all even read the medium post? :P
xD
I did
Myself?
i was confused that someone was like wow passwords in plaintext wtf vrc devs
bc they said in the blogpost
we hash your passwords, we dont know what they are nor can we find out
people love to take things out of context
Perhaps you are now worried that maybe we are sending your password, in plaintext, to a remote server that is controlled by someone who is not us. Let me reassure you — that is not at all how this works.```
WAY out of context.
in fact, anyone who thinks that probably has to be trolling
Tupper go back to bed D:<
2:30am
Go anyway!
Tupper you should know who I'm referring too ._.
Also even if the passwords were being stored as plaintext somewhere adding invisible characters to your password wouldn't help at all since any purported "leak" would also include the data of the invisible characters
^
password hashing doesn't magically get broken by special or invisble characters either
Btw Tup will you be able to pop by for the event this coming sunday?
it's not like a leak would be a screenshot of a password database lmao
Someone whips out their phone in the vrc server room and takes a picture
any password leaks would have your password in a way that bots would copy to use. no characters you use would help in this
I'd still like to see some kind of "temporary password" so those that are giving it out to people making avatars can use that instead...
this is why you use a password manager, like last pass, so every password you have is unique
Sweets are you only here to stir people up or what
No.

password managers are really good
Tupper can you come the the event and dab on me? then I can die happy thanks
I was just saying. Someone inquired about it and I responded.
people almost never hack people by guessing your password, they do it by finding large leaks of passwords online
using a password manger makes it so even if a password is leaked, its only a single password for a single site
We're going to continuously disagree on what has/hasn't happened in the past so just drop it yeah?
the topic... moved on?
So basically I had to get some clarification to ensure that the statement would be safe and accurate, but: VRChat does not store plaintext passwords or unsalted hashes. We store salted hashes of the password, which is industry standard.
i would be surprised if it was any other way
Me too 😛
yeeaah, I never expect anything else form anyone
Especially since you can get the libraries set up to do that in like 30 minutes
fun emergency i'd never want to be around at my own work either 😅
why would anyone be surprised from this?
turk?
mimi, its 2020: the current meme is making panics out of misinformation
Why'd my message about those people get removed though?
I know. it's why I try to fight misinformation as much as I can. because I know people are trying to cause panic as much as they can
The article says that you can't use password12345 anymore but I just tried and it works, I feel lied to.
Alright. Ignore the question chatmod
technically character-wise its solid
too bad its more basic than the bread u can buy in the bakery
Sorry for fueling a fire. Imma head out. My apologies.
Where am i able to get help?
depends on what
How can i talk? I talk, set my microphone up but it doesnt work 😦
@vocal shard need some help?
Yes pls :c
I cant talk. I have my microphone set up, toggle voice and voice on also but no one talks to me
Ok are you on windows 10?
Yes
Open up the sound menu by right clicking the slider, and make sure windows is reconising your mic
Thank you very much

It worked
Nice
Have a nice day/night
Is it possible to look at your favourite Worlds lists on the VRChat website without having to actually go into the game?
I want to make a list of all of my favourite worlds right now but I can’t remember some of the names and I don’t have access to my computer right now; only my phone
Anyone else having a "failed to connect"?
2020.03.06 21:35:00 Error - Connect() to 'ns.exitgames.com' (InterNetwork) failed: System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: The requested address is not valid in its context.
you from norway @mellow mango ?
Neg, US
florida?
Neg, northeast
these two places have issues atm. so not sure what yours is then
Someone just earlier said that exitgames was on their pihole list and stopping them from playing
So most likely your issue
Good call, strange that Pihole would false positive that
Yeah most likely gonna be more people asking about this if it only started happening today
Good to know what might cause it
can full screen ?
Only if you believe
Alt + Enter?
thank
Cool, whitelisted the exitgames.com even though I couldn't find it on my list as blocked, got through the hole
What’s the world called that teaches sign language?
i think its 🖐️ 👍 🤙 🖖
is it possible to filter worlds by date of creation, or year ?
Not a thing even on their backend sadly
it would be a great feature actually
with pagination of course to avoid spamming the api
If you really want you could use the api to sort by the created time and then use offset to browse where you want to
If you don't mind reading it in json
can we get a hotdog emoji please
does anyone have a solution for the oculus rift s? usb 3.0 not being compatible. i bought a new pci card, installed latest drivers, tried every usb port, and done the compatibility.json thing but it makes a new compatibility.json folder when i start oculus software.
with the joysticks
BEWARE of user xen777 User is crashing people with a modifed client
Man no one is selling VR headsets. Everything's out of stock.
@jagged zodiac you need Light Houses for vive trackers
Hm...
I wish, vrchat had a list of people who you recently were talking to.
I was talking to these people on the 3rd floor of the Great Pug and now I can’t find that one great pug because my internet decided to go disconnect for a second.
Do you get points for just updating an Avatar
I'm just updating this one avatar a bunch as I add stuff to it lol
If anyone wants to be friends on vrchat let me know.
guys does anyone know where i can get some acejay avatars
I asked this one guy who had one on and he wouldnt tell me what world he got it from
I check the author info and ace doesnt seem to have a world, so anyone now?
Hey
yo, has anyone made a zelda avatar?
im sure someone has
is there an easy way to find it?
not sure bruh literally JUST started playing but im sure theres gonna be a few zelda models somewhere, most likely botw models
like I mean like ZELDA not just botw
I'm making this more complicated lol
botw zelda
does anyone want to join me and just talk (im a little intaxicated)
no
well why not
hey
hello
Hello
Hello
why my friend list ipdating so wierd
is always been a problem just give it an hour i guess
oh people using beta now ?
Is there like a plan to integrate say stuff like view Steam profile of other players if they merged their accounts/log on through Steam?
prob not
I’m also thinking of actually getting a budget headset put together
Any decently priced ones that can let you wear glasses in them?
Some headsets make custom lenses
wmr has enough space for glasses
I could wear glasses in my odyssey ye
Isn’t odyssey phone?
@broken plover @coarse chasm how good are acer wmr and odyssey for say stuff like Pavlov and how compatible are they with steam stuff in general
Controller compatibility too if you know that
They are compatible with every game. If not native then they are used as vive controllers. They’re good for beginners, but if you want advanced high end vr that’s not the right option
And the Samsung odyssey is also just a wmr headset
@outer patrol Pavlov worked great, only issues were with throwing stuff (you can’t throw nades worth shiii), can’t really use bows, climbing was annoying sometimes, etc cause the tracking was fine but it only tracked in this fairly small window
But yea every game works fine nowadays just don’t go playing QuiVr or smth bow related
I was an early adopter so 2-3 years ago when I got my odyssey the support was awful and atrocious, can confirm it works pretty good now though
lol, good to hear
I’ll hit up my local tech store and ask them to break down everything for me
I thankfully don’t have to deal with it anymore though cause I upgraded
Local tech stores rip people off often
Can I get any suggestions on affordable laptop that i can use to VR chat using A VR headset
affordable plus vr is allready hard
but affordable laptop for vr does not work out, im sorry.
you'll be looking at quite some higher end laptops which are costy
laptop lplus vr is also 
Nah generally it's fine. You can take and bring it anywhere.
But you'll be paying the premium.
2000 dollar ish ??
i mean 2k sounds about right for laptop + vr, 1.5k if you were gonna get a PC
I will also use it for college and games
If it like 2,2k i can like save up for 10 months and i can get it (hopefully)
smarter to use a separate machine altogether for schoolwork
otherwise you justhave a hard to repair/upgrade laptop
It will be more expensive to have a PC to play games and laptop for college.
But it will be more practical
Make sense
it actually wont if the college laptop only needs basic functionality
aka, dont wanna game on it
Im going to IT
as long as you stay in 2d world you'll be fine with all the entry laptops
slight 3d wont be unsuable either, only if you gonna do actual 3d work or rendering / movie cutting you want to spec up
Yeah if youre willing to spend 2grand you can just build a vr box for 1k, laptop for 300-500, rift s for 400usd
I literally have a cat on my lap
Do i need special vrheadset if im wearing glasses??
friendly reminder that the odyssey + exists which, last i checked, has not been a victim of being overbought
no
I was only thinking will it fit
your lenses can rub up against the lenses and scratch them. Mine have never scratched so it depends on the glasses
the only headsets that are not reccomended with glasses are the pimax headsets but those are too expensive anyways
It will fit
My glasses is not that big
If not you can buy vrcovers w / lens lab custom-made lenses
just enter in your prescription and the headset youll be using
Nice thanks for the info
Popular or unpopular opinion, i think that VRChat should remove the colours for the different ranks and still have the Safety and ranks
Just make it people cant see, I find myself, aswell as others judging people faster the lower the rank they are
Even if you are subconsciously doing it
It's a popular opinion I believe

I only judge people with more than 10 materials and 2k+ dyn bone collision checks
Actually found myself to not have nameplates enabled these days. Just makes interactions with people much better
don't care about the rank
dab
caring about ranks 
I would play with nameplates off, but my friends constantly change avatars or all change to the same avatar, so it would get confusing
care about the ranks 
smh
@vocal shard are you saying that you judge me?
"I only judge people with more than 10 materials and 2k+ dyn bone collision checks" thats not everyone
It’s the majority
Luckily not me
And most of my materials come from stuff that is on gestures, so ya know

I feel like I’m the only one who thinks that the excellent status limits are very easy to meet. I’ve never uploaded anything past worse than ‘good’ and that’s only because they broke props on walk overrides so I needed to drop some mesh particles on movement.

