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pale timber
pale timber
ateo ohou clalling me@dumb
desert stratus
"Are you calling me dumb"
twin fractal
everyone else>desktop meme kids>desktop edgelords
desert stratus
People > everyone else
vocal shard
At the very bottom you have desktop mutes
twin fractal
you're cute
desert stratus
Am i the only one who finds everyone entertaining
twin fractal
muted are cute
pale timber
no un nkt
slate verge
@desert stratus not the only one, i find everyone else fascinating and fun except for crashers and client users
twin fractal
and generally inoffensive for obvious reasons
desert stratus
Like fuck this ranking shit if someone isnt entertaining enough then mess with them or join a different lobby
half shadow
Is it just me or did my mind say
astral granite
mutes are cute
half shadow
Muted are cuted
astral granite
but scary
pale timber
ni ifknd everyone enterntaining but boi one paysu yattention to me
astral granite
imagine a 40 year old mute with a loli avatar
pale timber
i havwntn olayee vrchat in twoi monthsh
astral granite
thats scary
vocal shard
No thanks
twin fractal
no I like the mix
desert stratus
"I find everyone entertaining but no ine pays attention to me"
pure hemlock
I don't mind mutes, I used to be one. But sometimes it feels awkward trying to make them feel involved or keep them involved in a discussion
pale timber
ith horing no fun
slate verge
i actually know someone who is a 40 year old in a loli avatar
desert stratus
"I havent played vrchat in two months, it boring no fun"
pure hemlock
I feel bad since it's easy for mutes to get ignored
twin fractal
just that some groups tend to be more problematic ime
vocal shard
Don't be mute then xd
pale timber
hiw okd am i
pure hemlock
Svel some people are mute IRL. Some people (Like I do) have really bad social anxiety.
Yah eventually if you can talk, you should learn to open up. But that can take awhile
desert stratus
Who cares
vocal shard
No excuses
desert stratus
Mutes are cool
pale timber
svebn whenn i tajkl no jen does
desert stratus
So are people
slate verge
i actually started off mute, but i'm talkative now.
twin fractal
muted are cool
vocal shard
Same
pale timber
so io dni itouch im heyaees
pure hemlock
I was mute for my first 450 hours or so
desert stratus
The only not cool peoplearent mutes, theyre just simply not cool
pale timber
imm notk nmutre
desert stratus
"svel when i talk no one does, so i ddont (talk much here?)"
twin fractal
❌
desert stratus
"Im not mute"
pure hemlock
I still am 'mute' a lot because of social anxiety but I won't like completely refuse to talk. I just go very quiet in situations where I am overwhelmed with anxiety.
vocal shard
That's fine tho
desert stratus
The only frustration with being mute begins and ends with said muted
twin fractal
I'm mute 30% of the time
slate verge
i go quiet when i see someone i don't know immediately even though its probably some one else's friends in the room
desert stratus
Like i could make the argument that someone making no attempt to interact is taking up precious server and world real estate
But they could really easily be shy as fuck aand just trying to get comfy being around people in this game in the first place
twin fractal
true but muted still interact
faint skiff
Ironically being mute just makes matters worse, because it makes social interactions with you much harder and many people in general won't really engage you. You're essentially going from being neutral initially to being "a bit of a pain to interact with". I know I just ignore most mutes now because trying to understand them is just an exercise in annoyance and, ironically anxiety inducing itself.
pale timber
ieither wayy nocoen rpayss attneoton to me so oit soesn tmagterr gmame si boring
pure hemlock
Also playing mute I found my anxiety to be less because in a way, I was't really being me. I was kind of playing a character based on my avatar. It helped me relax a lot. Defence mechanism of some sort maybe I guess? Since I've unmuted, I feel a lot more vulnerable.
desert stratus
Its why i always say hi. if someone still seems to just be there for jack shit then i wonder why theyre not in a private world alone
twin fractal
in fact long term mutes are usually more interactive than most
pale timber
sooslr csn o lay iwtih u ten
slate verge
@faint skiff i can understand that frustration.
trail bane
oh god I just had a stress attack
pale timber
i uhaventn played ij jaklongntome
desert stratus
I get not wanting to interact with mutes, nothing wrong with that
vocal shard
Why
slate verge
its even worse when they don't respond with anything back when they could've with emoji's and emotes
pure hemlock
I think it's a bit unempathetic but to each their own
pale timber
spoalr can i
desert stratus
"either way no one pays attention to me so it doesnt matter game is boring, solar can i play with u then, i / you havent played in a long time"
twin fractal
eh
desert stratus
Yeah i was gonna get on today u can joij me
pale timber
i jchave w concert
desert stratus
I have a concert?
pale timber
inm firiest chsir
desert stratus
nice.
pale timber
o ihavevto ogo
twin fractal
a lot of the time when i join a friends+ the first person I don't know to interact with me has been a mute 
broken plover
if you would replace the "t" with a "d" your name would be expensive chocolate
desert stratus
byebye~
pale timber
:(
pure hemlock
I was more social as a mute tbh
broken plover
"Lind"
pale timber
whwt amm i
desert stratus
Hasnt lind becomw shitty over recent years or am i mixing up brands
twin fractal
you're rin
pale timber
no
desert stratus
Being mute when youre not genuinely mute is like picking a different class
I can believe you being more social when muted
vocal shard
I don't mind vr mutes that much, at least they can mimic stuff and be fairly entertaining
pale timber
howi ofi i talk to beeppeoppe
desert stratus
Speaking takes weird ass effort. Too many people dont project or breathe enough
"How i often talk to people"
vocal shard
Desktop mutes tho? I usually block them
pale timber
i hattey hrwaring myself
desert stratus
"I hate hearing myself"
pale timber
shur
pure hemlock
I was more courageous as a mute. I didn't mind getting in peoples faces or roleplaying, or just being physical with other people. Now I am really reserved and keep my distance from people in VR because I again I feel a lot more vulnerable and I am putting my self out their, where as a mute I was mostly just a 'character'.
pale timber
ikakgien eplating vr
desert stratus
I know you also talked alot about getting jumped on cuz "OMG girl voice!?!?!?" And i 100% get that
like thats definitely a challenge for anyone who opens their mouth in this game
vocal shard
Girl? Where???
twin fractal
shsh
desert stratus
I sometimes go mute but thats only if its infinity am and i dont want to get crucified by mother or neighbors
pure hemlock
Well yah I dealt with that a lot when I unmuted too. It's not so bad now since I am more quiet in public worlds and I deny a majority of my friend requests. But yah that definitely adds to my anxiety.
astral granite
girl????
pale timber
brueg heberytime i tlak to osmeoje 500 peoprew stamprrte tjem and thry ditch me
astral granite
omg where 
pale timber
ivivsnnt tosk oto ajyonw ritifs no fin
astral granite
rin are you ok?
vocal shard
Rin is tired
twin fractal
girls in public are just annoying most of the time hot take
desert stratus
"Bruh every time i takk to someone 500 people [join] them and they ditch me"
pure hemlock
oof'
steep bough
oofies
pale timber
bo oeornt enwht thechek o mym wo ido
vocal shard
Don't be mean ffs
pure hemlock
It legit sucks being a girl in a public world that isn't some attention whore
desert stratus
"It isnt ok to [join?] It's no fun"
twin fractal
not because of them but because of the cancerous orbiters
faint skiff
Everyone hates the sound of their own voice, it's literally a standard human trait.
vocal shard
It's ok Onee-chan
desert stratus
Okay i cant fucking translate that
pure hemlock
I heard some guys talking about Runescape in a public world a few days ago so I joined in and they legit said 'STFU you ethot go away'
vocal shard
I love you and appreciate you as a person, you have a good personality and should be proud
pure hemlock
I played Runescape for a really long time and wanted to join in the discussion 😢
astral granite
lmao
faint skiff
@pure hemlock Were you using an eThot avatar?
desert stratus
Im sorry rin you're speaking the devil's tongue now
desert stratus
The only avatar ive seen you in yin is exactly what i think you look like in real life
vocal shard
You make your own?
twin fractal
people really be fucking trash sometimes
pure hemlock
I don't know what avatar you've seen me in
faint skiff
Because I mean it's entirely possible to be called an ethot because of the avatar #moreguysshouldactuallyusemaleavatarswhydonttheyitsweird
pale timber
what of you tinink i look liek
desert stratus
Literally a tall blond girl in jeans and a green ass tshirt with a massive ponytail tied up
vocal shard
Because male anime avatar are usually shit
faint skiff
Sounds like an excuse
indigo fern
being inside a man ok buddy
pale timber
vrry true
pure hemlock
I don't remember that one
desert stratus
That is you @pure hemlock
vocal shard
I have a male model
pure hemlock
I am really tall IRL but I am a brunette
desert stratus
Well it was something likethat, i dont remember colors well
vocal shard
Took me 3 days to fix
pale timber
sooaler wht do yyriu think i loejek like
desert stratus
God fucking i always confuse blod and brunette
vocal shard
How tall?
broken plover
send pics
desert stratus
Um. This is going to sound weird
twin fractal
no I wanna be cute 
pale timber
lo lgisnt
pure hemlock
5'10-5'11ish
faint skiff
@indigo fern You're inside a man right now. Checkmate.
indigo fern
😱
vocal shard
Taller than me lmao
twin fractal
no male avatar
pale timber
no fucking way
desert stratus
But theres a guy i sit next to in AP that sounds almost exactly like you but a little older
And also has a little bit of your speaking mannerisms
pale timber
who me
desert stratus
So whenever ithink of "rin but in real life"
pure hemlock
Rin is stalking you
desert stratus
I think its that guy
Rin did not sprint all the way to florda to stalk my fucked up ass lmao
coarse chasm
What’s wrong with Rins english
pale timber
am i iwhite
vocal shard
What are you doing in Florida
desert stratus
Rin gave up on typing even tho he can type perfectly fucking fine and at 80wpm on his damn phone
coarse chasm
Who broke Rin
pale timber
shytuo up yij you giant
desert stratus
No
twin fractal
rin ate the zzz candy
desert stratus
Not white, unless you meannin skintone
pale timber
fuck you caught me okay fine B(
vocal shard
The fez juice
coarse chasm
I see
desert stratus
Lol hi rin
coarse chasm
Rin you drunk
pale timber
but that takesntoo much effort
pure hemlock
@faint skiff that avatar is not an ehot i dont think
vocal shard
Yo is that the real Onee-chan
pale timber
no im not this dead when i am
twin fractal
looks like yin
pure hemlock
Yah that's me IRL
desert stratus
Rin probably types faster than most people in this chat now that i think about it
vocal shard
😳
pale timber
who emlse is east asian here
desert stratus
Yin is that your avatar
pale timber
yin youre actually a fucking giant wtf
pure hemlock
That's what I've been using the last few weeks
It's technically a 'femboy' avatar but.. it's cute
pale timber
shut up giant
pure hemlock
😢
twin fractal
mean
vocal shard
How small are you rin
pale timber
shutu op il
twin fractal
treat your sister nicely rin
desert stratus
East asian? Does 🇵🇭 count?
slate verge
are pink eboys femboys?
pure hemlock
you notice he finally speaks actual english... to insult me
vocal shard
Yes
desert stratus
That is a cute avatar yin
slate verge
okies
vocal shard
Didn't call you boomer yet
desert stratus
Definitely not just because its a femboy avatar
pure hemlock
It's sweater has the words "Fuck off" with a picture of praying hands. I love it
vocal shard
Wow mean
desert stratus
lol thats awesome, i kind of want that sweater now
slate verge
twin fractal
thicc sweater
twin fractal
paci moment
molten gale
Insert PaciThink here
vocal shard
Are you, lint?
twin fractal
no I am skinny tall
molten gale
Oh wow that coincidence
twin fractal
I wear the skate shoes and wallet chain and mismatched arm warmer
vocal shard
🪓
twin fractal
fite
vocal shard
Fix it
twin fractal
no paci do what paci do
river ibex
Does anyone know the differences between VR High and VR Low in graphic options?
2 years ago I needed to use VR Low with my old graphics card to get better performance.
I would like to know what differences there are.
Lighting, antialiasing?...
twin fractal
antialiasing
vocal shard
Pins in #development-advanced
pale timber
of course i speak proper english to someone i love <3 
vocal shard
Ok rin, i see how it is
river ibex
Ah, perfect. Many thanks Svel.
pure hemlock
o.o
twin fractal
rin why do you play with hearts you naughty boy 😶
pale timber
svel ilym thats why u get me
sterile ingot
I am starting to see news that the index is going to become available
twin fractal
it will last a day
pure hemlock
It'll be available for like 15-30 minutes before selling out again
a day is way too long not gonna happen
i will bet 5 vbucks
twin fractal
20 hours
desert stratus
So din, ur skater boy?
pale timber
what am i i need to change my blank space
pure hemlock
The Stroked
twin fractal
vbuck's moment
vocal shard
Cute
twin fractal
I'm a poser scene kid
desert stratus
Hahah virgin euros
pale timber
hi solalr il love u
twin fractal
"I'll love you"
pure hemlock
I wish someone loved me
twin fractal
top 10 weirdest anime confessions
pale timber
what
twin fractal
I love you daughter
pure hemlock
pale timber
dain love me
twin fractal
I love you Rin
pale timber
no you dont
twin fractal
I do.. :d
pale timber
prove it
twin fractal
but how, you're always gone :(
pale timber
exactly. you cant
pure hemlock
Ur supposed to bulli me
pure hemlock
twin fractal
pale timber
stink.
pure hemlock
I actually take like 2 baths a day 😦
pale timber
do it again
river ibex
Is the change in LOD Bias from 1 to 2 very significant?
I love the options of VR Low, the antialiasing at x4 and the shadows at "High Resolution" seems obligatory in VR High.
I think I remember that antialiasing consumes many more resources than a simple rescaling.
languid beacon
Most people don’t set lod models on vrc at all. Lod bias I’d assume will do almost nothing
pale timber
imagine playingn vrc
languid beacon
Imagine imagining
pale timber
who
river ibex
I think it would be necessary to review these graphic options in later versions.
I have a ryzen 3900x, 34 gb of ram 3600 cl 16 and a GTX 1080. I rarely play VRchat at 90 FPS, even when I am alone in a world.
When I get home I will try "VR Low", maybe the performance change will be high without much loss of quality.
Or maybe with the next generation of graphics cards we can have those continuous 90 fps, hahaha
trail bane
Just Posted a Image in #vrchat-pictures
sharp trout
@river ibex VRChat isn’t very optimized in itself, and user-made avatars and worlds are not always very well done or optimized either. Your own avatar of use can also be a preformance factor but most often not
desert stratus
Actually too many people have had problens using bad performant avatars themselves
Which is interesting
pale timber
hi sollar
slate verge
@river ibex i think your cpu isn't up to the minimum recommendation
slate verge
oh
desert stratus
You might be mixi it up with older amd or intel CPUs
slate verge
ahhh
desert stratus
The 3900x used to only be beat by the 9900k
Then AMD made a handful of more powerful processors
3950, 3970, 3990
scarlet flare
3990
desert stratus
But what vanilla said holds true, more LOD options would be nice but all of the graphic-lag issues are the burden of content creators to solve
pale timber
i have 2700 good
desert stratus
This game has at least a thousand ddevelopers. 30 are working on the client, servers, networking, API and security. Everyone else is making the content
slate verge
am i technically a dev then?
desert stratus
You should be carrying yourself around as one if you make public content such as worlds
slate verge
i do yeah, have you check my world?
desert stratus
If you make a lot of private or personal avatars i wont rag on you as much unless you make some for other people as well
i have barely played recently so noot yettt cuz im bad and evil and mean :<
slate verge
D:
slate verge
😊
pale timber
me too
river ibex
Yes, its a 3900x from AMD. VRchat only uses 20-30% of CPU, but always 100% of GPU or 60% with only 30fps.
As I said the VR Low option will be a high improvement
desert stratus
damn, your eprobably like the only person who is having their GPU overloaded on vrchat
either that or for some reason its forgetting to properly eat up your CPU
everyone i know including people with 8700ks have their CPU at like 100% load and their GPUs (2080tis mind you) at like 30 or 60% when playing
jesus
river ibex
90% of VRChat uses the same e-girl wolf girl model with 5000 Dynamic Bones collisions hair.
I always do "hide avatar" with this people.
unkempt spoke
Wzap boy
desert stratus
yeah, dynamic bone collisions are supposed to spell death for CPUs. huh
before IK wouldve caught up, but now it generally comes down to just client overhead (for some reason VRC tends to lag for everyone when world sizes approach and surpass 40 users) and world features like audio
also that hard limits were removed and they dont exist in the client for at least public content and avatars because...reasons
you have VRC's priority set to high or realtime in windows?
river ibex
Yeah dynamic bones uses CPU for calculate positions, but the movement of that verts is done by the GPU
80000 polygons of hair with 5000 colliders = death
pale timber
my cpu goes to 500% gpu fine
river ibex
And nope, I didn't touch nothing aout priorities in the task bar
desert stratus
lol at least teenagers cant figure out how to work cloth
that would be the death of VRC as we know it
hollow ingot
Is that the worst of them all? :o
river ibex
hahah yeah, 2018 was the era of "cloth", was done in 1 month when people saw is a computer killer
desert stratus
it definitely can kill but i think at this point theres a lot of people who dont know how ot set it up
i know i dont and everyone ive asked has said that its really complicated
i want to do it for a whitediamond-esque cape at some point
pale timber
hi
desert stratus
@hollow ingot whereas dynamic bones does maths for bones in your armature and the weighting takes care of deformations, cloth literally controls and tracks the transformations of every individual vertex in your mesh
think about that for a moment
pale timber
english pls
desert stratus
i
river ibex
Cloth = no no no no
desert stratus
okay then. dynamic bones add dynamic movement to bones. cloth adds dynamic movement directly onto meshes
pale timber
to where i can understabd pls
desert stratus
wow. damn
river ibex
The effect with cloth is very realistic, but costs a lot of performance
pale timber
are u calling me dumb
desert stratus
no, im justvery fucking surprised since usually people i talk to in vrc are familiar with this stuff 0 0
even random ass people
dynamic bones do math on these things
pale timber
i dont touch vrc wdym
river ibex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFio7wMTQ2k
First time I saw cloth in a game.
2009, Nvidia PhysX.
pale timber
wtf
desert stratus
dynamic bones need to worry about the movement of 5 different bones. cloth needs to worry about the movement of 500+ verts
pale timber
ya
mossy zenith
Any clue how to fix a bug that i cant look up or down and slightly in the floor? Can't even open menu or enter a world it just stays black and plays music. Im a desktop user please help ):
desert stratus
cloth also isnt 100% ideal or even necessary in most situations
river ibex
Look at those clothes breaking through the bullets. D:<
desert stratus
for things that more closely resemble links such as thicc anime hair or chain links dynamic bones would be ideal
scarlet flare
uh, dynamic bones causes weighted vert movement though...
desert stratus
well yeah, but i dont think weighted verts take nearly as much overhead as completely dynamic verts
scarlet flare
maybe
desert stratus
i could be wrong. i am not a game devloper. please correct me and crucify me if i am mistaken.
scarlet flare
i do know that working with dynbones in a single thread is not great
desert stratus
but based off of pure intuition cloth has to be a fuck of a lot worse. i know the VRCSDK isnt the most reliable source for it, but IIRC the very poor ceiling for cloth components was 200 triangles
scarlet flare
but thats a unity restriction
pale timber
wtf nerds
desert stratus
going off of oculus's old devblog numbers and even bigger bullshit intuition that implies that the very poor limits for avatars creates a soft cap of 10 very poor avatars in a room if you want to keep frames, that is a pretty fucking big restriction on cloth and says a lot about how performant it is if true
but of course, i could be wrong. i am notagamedevloper.pleasecorrectandcrucifymeifiammistakeniwanttolearn.
also i should really just be answering these questions with the profiler anyway but im too busy fucking around in blender lmfaoo
pale timber
nnenrrnebrrnenenrrebenrnd
desert stratus
holy fuck im trying my best not to laugh really hard at that
pale timber
i cant read that
languid beacon
Man I wish oculus, or, anyone really, would make a better standalone headset with more powerful specs to run vrc
pale timber
wait 10 years
pseudo basalt
or like two
languid beacon
I feel it’s already possible just put the hardware in back to avoid front heavy
Quest ruined me
I need powerful standalone
I can’t go back
desert stratus
the way that magic leap does it is by having the hardware in a small satchel around your waist
slate verge
i can say that there are enough techs out there to make a portable vr that can run vrc
though it will heavily be customized and trial and error
desert stratus
that would also solve the exponentially larger volume and weight of cooling for higher-powered hardware
i feel like thats the real reason why the quest cant use a stronger mobile chip when they exist anyway
or at least, someone earlier suggested that
desert stratus
quest is really good as a standalone experience i agree
languid beacon
I used a rift classic for 2 years but borrowed a quest for 2 days
desert stratus
got to use it for beat saber and another really weird university tech demo
its a very fucking nice headset
languid beacon
It’s hard to go back to being wired
ruby needle
did you try the third party solutions for streaming?
slate verge
languid beacon
As soon as standalone headsets are as good as 2018 pc’s it will be good enough. No need to catch up to pc’s
desert stratus
hey, PCs are gonna develop too during that time you know >~<
slate verge
ahh i think i get it now, so you're saying you are liking the portable feelings for quest vr?
desert stratus
then again, with how fucking tightly were packing shit onto dies i think we may actually hit the point where the next logical step would be quantum processing. in which case, maybe
languid beacon
Yes that’s what I’m saying. I don’t think it’s necessary to “be as good as” pc’s. Just be as good as Pc’s are now at some point in the future
desert stratus
thats...also a good point.
slate verge
yeah don't do that here
desert stratus
we can do quite a lot with current PCs. find a cooling solution and it's GG
standalone VR for everyone.
slate verge
maybe oculus just needs to upgrade their hardware in the future possibly
desert stratus
the whole whatthefuckisitcalled weird ass cooler thats coming to PCs looks nice'
but the whole problem is making it compact
slate verge
could be a thing yeah
desert stratus
we can have it built into the headset, in satchels or backpacks or other person-mounted solutions, or if streaming gets really good, simple console boxes to lay on the side
slate verge
you mean like how ready player one does it?
desert stratus
which... a satchel could also be if you made it wireless
kinda
rn tho the next best thing to the full pCVR experience with as much cordlessness as possible is cable bungees
slate verge
probably
languid beacon
The only deal breaker for me on Quest was the 2 hour battery. Gonna need longer than that chief
slate verge
what battery does it use? double A's?
desert stratus
it's rechargable
it gets to be rechargable since its basically a console, unlike vive wands and
can i talk about this? why do controllers and pucks have built-in batteries instead of swappable ones like normal?
slate verge
how does it recharge
desert stratus
even swappable propreitary rechargable batteries would be nice
languid beacon
If Quest was exactly as it is now but with like a 8 hour battery I’d consider it amazing even without proper VRChat support
desert stratus
through the same USB-C cord it came with in combination with a proprietary AC adapter
i guess the only thing then is belt-mounted battery packs
slate verge
Oh, huh the quest doesn't sound that bad then
desert stratus
its a really good experience
okay just like forget that vrchat exists for a moment
then think about what the quest is
its an amazing headset and any notion that it isnt is 100% generated from a group of angry vrchatters who are upset that they have to play nice with crossplay users
languid beacon
I did try wireless pc streaming but it was early on and it was kinda bad over my router. Positional latency was pretty sick/inducing. Rotational latency was covered due to time warp didn’t notice it at all
But hands were clearly movement delayed as was head swaying
frosty veldt
Only malice for quest users is due to having avatars hidden by default iirc
languid beacon
Not just hidden by default. No one. Like, no one, uploads an android model
desert stratus
not necessarily quest users, there's just an overwhelmingly prevalent meme in vrc circles that the quest is a trash piece of hardware when it's probably the greatest thing since the switch
languid beacon
You won’t see anyone
desert stratus
since it's basically nintendo labo done right lmao
languid beacon
If it had a longer battery it would be more hype than switch to me
2 hour battery is painful to me
desert stratus
ive made a decisiion
frosty veldt
I feel people will always look down on hardware that is weaker, regardless of the goal it's trying to achieve
desert stratus
i think im going to individually retopo all of my quest avatars instead of making another base to roll with them
languid beacon
Quest has the whole PCMR people trashing it because it’s a console
desert stratus
it would make sense. at 5-10k tri mesh it doesnt take that much time to re-do weighting, UVs, and shape keys, and I can just rebake textures from the PC mesh
like making an entirely separate base system for just that isnt worth it
frosty veldt
Also uploading Android models is discouraged since you can't see the final result and your rarely see people who will see the final result
languid beacon
Android vrcSDK is what you see is what you get
desert stratus
i usually upload the mobile version first on PC to make sure it's working fine. then i overwrite that and then switch the platform to andorid
languid beacon
Not sure what the issue is
desert stratus
its the best bet i got. only other issue then is actually seeing how it would perform in game, which the best option i would have as someone who only owns a PC is the profiler and a lot of shitty guesswork
slate verge
@desert stratus did i show you my recently quest avatar? i thought i did
languid beacon
I did tons of android models before I used quest they all worked as expected when I tried it
slate verge
👌
desert stratus
the only time i made a big oopsie woopsie in my pants with quest is when i discovered that if the rig you use for quest is even slightly deviant from the PC rig then it straight up T-poses
languid beacon
The only issue is remembering to keep quest version up to date if you change the skeleton structure
desert stratus
yeah exacctly that
slate verge
thats easy
frosty veldt
Can't trust the editor for seeing if the model works, but yeah uploading it as a PC avatar is the only way
slate verge
quest vr is going to sold out soon as well, and i wanted to get one soon
languid beacon
In blender I just have two meshes parented to the same armature only one armature and export independently
desert stratus
thats fucking clever
vocal shard
@desert stratus source for cloth being more performance heavy?
frosty veldt
You can see it in the profiler as well as unity just straight up crashing if you overdo it or cause impossible geometry
vocal shard
I've used cloth extensively and never crashed
Never had any friends telling me that i drop their fps either
With 1500 vertices cloth
frosty veldt
Well that's a good number so I wouldn't expect lag from that
frosty veldt
The limits are arbitrary, it used to be 500.
vocal shard
I started to notice drop in performance at 5k
frosty veldt
Trying to get to 200 for cloth is not worth it imo. Better to just use dyn bones at that point
vocal shard
I want proof of that
20 dyn bone for a skirt
Vs 200 vertices skirt
Both with 2 capsule colliders in the legs
languid beacon
My pc version is 32K tris and my Quest one is 10K
slate verge
@vocal shard wow i have to test that sometimes. For skirts.
languid beacon
I really can’t bare to target lower than 10K
frosty veldt
20 bones for a skirt is a lot but testing the direct comparison is interesting
vocal shard
I love using cloth
languid beacon
Cloth is the only vrc thing that crashes me
vocal shard
Used it so much in 2018 and shared a lot of stuff in the Avatar channel
slate verge
@vocal shard do you know if it works for multi meshes? all at once
like ribbons and scarf
vocal shard
Got so many dms to help
languid beacon
Cloth ONLY works as a separate mesh
vocal shard
You need a separate mesh
frosty veldt
My main issue with cloth is how it's desynced but I usually don't splurge much. Need to try cloth on final IK at least
vocal shard
One cloth components per mesh
slate verge
ohh
languid beacon
Yeah cloth is meant for things that don’t need syncing
languid beacon
If you avoid colliders sync isn’t an issue
frosty veldt
Only time I want cloth is for dresses which need colliders
frosty veldt
That's good because I throw em on like candy
vocal shard
Especially if you compare them to dyn bone colliders
languid beacon
I feel like a shader can do more efficient cloth
frosty veldt
Yeah but that's voodoo
vocal shard
I made removable panties with cloth 😳
pseudo basalt
umbral reef
wowie
slate verge
👀
vocal shard
worldly swan
Anyone know if a user called devil. has a discord account?
vocal shard
Probably?
forest snow
When you send an invite request to someone in an invite only world and they're not the instance owner, does the request get forwarded to the owner?
covert blade
Nope
coarse chasm
It says people with blue status automatically accept invites but there are times when requesting from a blue status friend that nothing happens or it takes a bit
I feel lied to
covert blade
If they aren't the instance owner, you can't join unless it's invite+
Yes, it does automatically accept invites, but if said invite cannot be accepted, nothing will happen
rough pulsar
It's pretty fucking dumb that invites cannot be forwarded to the instance owner, but here we are. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
proper warren
uhm im totally new to vrchat but i cant seem to click on people to copy the avatar
coarse chasm
Clone avatar can be disabled
frosty veldt
You cant clone private avatars which many people use
languid beacon
As long as the message is forwarded properly “Adeon Writer is requesting that Trolling McTrollface be invited” and as long as they are allowed in the instance (it’s invite only, not friends or friends+) it should be fine. I don’t think non-friends should be able to get into friends only instances by any means
covert blade
Friends+ doesn't even require a request
Personally, I think this should work even in friends only
After all, it is entirely up to the owner of the instance whether they want to let that person in or not
languid beacon
I guess
covert blade
Right now it's just kinda stupid because you get a message telling you to ask the instance owner to invite said person, but the instance owner can't actually invite that person unless those two are friends
languid beacon
Well in general I don’t think you should be able to invite anyone who isn’t your friend. That would enable spam
covert blade
Ofc not, but then that message is pretty much useless
Why would it tell me that if that's most likely not possible to begin with
languid beacon
It is better than not having the message
And there is the option of moving to friends + or public
covert blade
Point being: Forwarding the invite to the owner should absolutely be a thing
Speaking of which, inviting people in invite+ worlds should to
languid beacon
Instance owner kinda decided who they wanted when they made it friends only. But I do agree
covert blade
Still, there's no harm in that and if you don't accept any requests, only friends will be able to join
languid beacon
As long as it’s only forwarded if the friend of the instance owner chooses to forward it along I think it’s safe
covert blade
Pretty much what I would expect the "Ok" button to do
coarse chasm
Friends+ quickly grows into stupidly big lobbies with lots of clients, crashers, forced avatars, etc
So me no like them
languid beacon
Yeah maybe change buttons to request/ignore for readability
covert blade
Friends+ is a more filtered experience since everyone in the instance is friends with someone
So the odds of that being the case are significantly lower compared to public where anyone can join whenever they want
languid beacon
At the moment there is only one button, “ok” it does nothing but is also the only option
covert blade
There's three buttons
"Ok", "Cancel" I think, both do the same, and "Block"
@Xandi I dunno what kind of friends you have, but in my 558 hours of playing VRChat, I literally never had that happen to me whatsoever
languid beacon
Depends on your circles. It only takes one friend who has a rowdy crowd following them
In lots of cases that is me. If I join your friends+ world, it’s the calm before the storm.
covert blade
Huh
languid beacon
So happy to get Ask Me status
coarse chasm
I just have custom animations set to off for everyone
rose sequoia
Yeop
coarse chasm
Has saved me a ton
languid beacon
(Rides invisible skateboard)
rose sequoia
I have them on for known users and trusted users though
covert blade
I don't and I haven't run into that many big inconveniences
rose sequoia
The white names have been extra cringe today.
languid beacon
“Adeon why are you sliding everywhere”
Adeon: :(
coarse chasm
I keep them off too cause The people I see with crashers and clients are often known or trusted
So it’s off for everyone for me
rose sequoia
Nah, they usually wont crash.
covert blade
You know people can just force kick you if they want right?
rose sequoia
The problem now is the clients.
frosty veldt
If your friends+ ends up in crashers then your friends need to do some list cleaning
covert blade
rose sequoia
You can end up getting kicked or a portal dropped on you and that's inevitable.
coarse chasm
There’s always that one friend
rose sequoia
Clients aren't bad, its just some of the people who use them.
languid beacon
Friends+ is the same as public it just isn’t listed on the directory. The whole dang game can join as long as someone they know is in. It’s not only “friends of friends” as it says. It’s any degree of friends of friends of friends
worldly swan
Surely you can’t get a portal dropped on you, or can clients override that?
frosty veldt
I still think clients are wholly unnecessary, even for QoL changes
covert blade
It is friends of friends, just not "Friends of your friends"
rose sequoia
clients can override that
covert blade
Hmm no
rose sequoia
@worldly swan
frosty veldt
It should be an infinite friends of friends, its the best way to meet new people imo
worldly swan
If you read the whole description I believe it does say something like it’s “you can join if you are a friend of a user in the world
Also good to know
covert blade
Mods are what allows you to combat other people's malicious stuff
Something that the game should be able to do on its own but ouch
coarse chasm
Clients can override anything
rose sequoia
yes
coarse chasm
Can’t be kicked, can’t be blocked, force steal avatars, force kick, anything
Noclip, speed hacks, teleports
worldly swan
Surely blocking is user side
coarse chasm
Clients still prevent it somehow
worldly swan
Damn
rose sequoia
almost every client has a IP puller as well. Which isn't illegal, but its a little eh.
languid beacon
Yeah it sounds like a thing clients could override. Behind the scenes friends + is just public that isn’t listed on the directory
coarse chasm
Clients can even force join invite worlds without an invite
languid beacon
There’s no special authentication
frosty veldt
Im good
covert blade
Still against the ToS
languid beacon
Being always bad is kinda irrlelvent. Always banable is all that matters
frosty veldt
Having a client is like conceal carry, I usually lost trust in the people that use them
coarse chasm
The quality of life stuff and basic stuff is chill, all depends on who uses it
rose sequoia
Yes it is against the ToS but people are still gonna have them.
Every lobby I joined today at least 2-4 people had a client of some sort.
languid beacon
“But I didn’t do anything wrong with it” my butt, you broke tos that’s enough to warrant a ban lol
coarse chasm
Right just having it is enough
frosty veldt
I generally treat people telling me they have client as TMI or just a bizarre flex
rose sequoia
The thing is, is you aren't able to play a game where nobody cheats.
You can report someone with a client but they usually will not end up banned.
covert blade
Even if they get banned it's probs just a temp ban
coarse chasm
Yea I mean friends will tell me about clients in private worlds but never use it or mention it anywhere public
worldly swan
Some clients I can see as being fine in the same way that for example optifine in minecraft is fine, although most are not fine
coarse chasm
Just depends on who uses it
rose sequoia
Exactly.
worldly swan
Yeah
frosty veldt
Just the main problem is you dont know what someones client can do. They can claim its only for something like global dynamic bones and then they rip your avatar or something
rose sequoia
Well ripping avi's can happen either way.
worldly swan
If it’s a QOL thing such as the not going through portals thing I’ve heard about or maybe some kind of FPS improver I can’t see an issue personally, but things like fly or teleport are more abusive
rose sequoia
People can just make a exact replica which is even worst.
coarse chasm
Mhmm
frosty veldt
I usually just use game rips when in publics so ripping avatars doesnt matter much to me
hollow sluice
most people dont rip avatars because they are not stupid
coarse chasm
Theres always anticheats to detect and ban but then people will make undetectable clients cause anticheats aren’t perfect and always have loopholes
covert blade
That's bold of you to assume that VRChat has any sort of anti cheat
worldly swan
Most people don’t rip avatars because they respect the time and effort that went into them
rose sequoia
Especially trusted users.
coarse chasm
I never said it did Sasha
peak vale
Anyone know where I can find a male pikachu avatar? I only found a female one.
hollow sluice
theres a very large amount of people injecting malicious code in to their avatars so they either hijack your unity assets or straight up destroy your unity
covert blade
I thought Pikachu is Pikachu
coarse chasm
How do you tell a Pikachu’s gender
worldly swan
advantages of quest
frosty veldt
Tail is different on the female
hollow sluice
@worldly swan I meant from the malicious kind of people
rose sequoia
Yes
peak vale
Female has a tail indent
worldly swan
Ik
hollow sluice
those people dont really have much respect for anyone but themselves
coarse chasm
I see
rose sequoia
Yes but thats just how life is.
frosty veldt
coarse chasm
I was opening up Unity and it crashed my entire PC spamming windows, could that have been something injected into something I had imported?
peak vale
Thanks
coarse chasm
My friends gave me weird asset packs so guess one of them might’ve been something bad
hollow sluice
@coarse chasm most definitely
frosty veldt
@coarse chasm Dont use unity packages without checking the content first
hollow sluice
that or memory leak
peak vale
Is it in game or? Im new to the game...
coarse chasm
I see
hollow sluice
you answered you own question lmao
coarse chasm
Lol
frosty veldt
@peak vale No sorry I sent you a 3D model to make your own avatar, to find one in game I would search for "pokemon" in the world search in hopes of finding the avatar
peak vale
Ok
coarse chasm
Oki
peak vale
$500? Wow
hollow sluice
scratch avatars are worth that kind of money
hollow sluice
making avatars that are worth 500 takes years of practice and patience so he definitely deserves it
rose sequoia
He made most of the major avatars for LC and some of the other major groups. But I could get you a pikachu avatar for nothing, I have a few friends who do avatars for free.
peak vale
Ok kitten
rose sequoia
just pm what you would like
frosty veldt
Well if its just a port its really quite easy
worldly swan
I knew a world that might have one but I think it got privatised
frosty veldt
tree fitty
hollow sluice
@rose sequoia whats LC if you dont mind me asking?
peak vale
Pmed @rose sequoia
devout berry
Wait, WHAT?! Now hijacking the game is not enough for the hackers, so they f*ck up your Unity and SDK too?
coarse chasm
Yee
frosty veldt
Downloading a virus is of your own volition, you should check any sort of zipped filed you download. Unity packages included.
peak vale
Kitten?
rose sequoia
Yeah sorry I was making dinner!
frosty veldt
Generally you shouldn't use unity packages that arn't made by friends but, if you do, you should make sure there are no file extensions that are not needed. For example you only need 3D meshes (.fbx, .dae, .obj , ect.) and textures (.png, .psd, .jpg, ect.)
peak vale
Its okay
frosty veldt
Wasnt Laughing Coffin bad? I never keep up with VRC drama
covert blade
@Scionzenos ^ that, excluding things from the Unity Asset Store and Booth though
hollow sluice
I have no idea what that is but eyy lol
rose sequoia
They are a VRC gang
hollow sluice
ahh thats sad
covert blade
SAO wannabes by the sound of it
rose sequoia
older members know who they are
hollow sluice
so they are just shitty kitbashed crasher avatars?
rose sequoia
They were a group of people that would go around and wreak havoc on people.
They had avatars that could fry graphic cards.
Even some could completely destroy a computer.
devout berry
That is a BS, isn't it?
rose sequoia
Idk what they did .
devout berry
My BS alarm is on highest defcon.
rose sequoia
But they had a recording of a kid crying on discord saying they messed up his computer.
covert blade
If an avatar kills your PC, odds are high that your PC was likely on its last leg already
rose sequoia
Im not sure what the full story was.
hollow sluice
I always found the whole " I will fry your pc" claim kinda unrealistic. I dont think you can let a gpu destroy itself before it shuts down for safety reasons
covert blade
You're right, you really can't
vocal shard
hi
frosty veldt
Yeah while unity packages can be trusted from some sites its usually good practice to check them all, its rather quick as things that shouldnt be there are pretty obvious
rose sequoia
I never heard that saying. Ive only heard the saying "Fry your router." which can be done.
devout berry
Thermal throttling will stop any temp based fry attempts.
hollow sluice
yeah
covert blade
Well let's just assume that anything from the Unity Asset Store, especially paid things, all include things that you actually need
Including scripts for various reasons
devout berry
And safety shut down is the last ditch, but the throttling should handle it, provided you have right cooling and keep it in good shape.
hollow sluice
I mean I could see an unity package bluescreening your pc but thats as far as that can go besides straight up viruses and miners
rose sequoia
Not everyone has that though
frosty veldt
Stuff hidden in unity packages have more access to your computer than some rando in a vrchat world
covert blade
elfin cloak
rof's home is totally screwed up
nothing work
everyone is robot
and no any video working now
wary nice
😦
covert blade
And you should also never mention it here
devout berry
Blue screen is not a hard think to do - just mess with something in RAM bad enough to make it take the system with itself while crashing.
hollow sluice
its difficult to encourage people to stay away from the site if we cant talk about it
covert blade
The point of that rule is to not raise awareness to a site everyone already knows about
But hey, wasn't my idea to make it like that
coarse chasm
I used it but i’m new so didn’t know it was bad
covert blade
hollow sluice
its kind of unavoidable, especially because of how offten you see new people trying to upload vrcm avatars in the help channels
devout berry
My BT driver in laptop sometimes does a blooper, where it locks up in start up or shut down of the transreciever and it takes down windows.
frosty veldt
Its one of the first results you get when you look up "vrchat avatars". It would be better to talk against it instead of pretend it doesnt exist
hollow sluice
you are? why?
devout berry
Really but some parts of making an avatar could be really hard and scary to a total newbie. I can just imagine, how jaws of all those newbies dropped, when they asked how to make avatars and I listed the whole process.
hollow sluice
well things are just not easy sometimes. Kitbashing is really simple once you understand what the process is
its overwhealming at first but what isnt nowadays
really having the motivation is all you need
and understanding that you wont get far if you just wait for people to spoonfeed you answers
devout berry
Well, kitbashing is like a building from Lego
more or less when you learn it. But I meant the situation, when they ask about completely custom models.
covert blade
Anyways, imma nyom to sleep now
But before that
@languid beacon Boop, are you available for DM's?
hollow sluice
well even for people that dont know anything about modeling all you need to know is that the process is very similar to the stuff that people get payed for in companies so it cant be an easy process
devout berry
Yeah.
tacit plank
Why can other people force my avatar to change to one which crashes me? It's annoying, I had to restart twice (and use the website to reset the avatar)
hollow sluice
because this games security is more than lacking
tame island
i believe it exploits a world's ability to change ur avatar if i remember correctly
languid beacon
Yes @covert blade
tacit plank
Sounds likely, some dumb RPC-call triggery thingy message sent to all avatars
Speaking of which, I think it would be better if users could decide if they trusted other peoples worlds, or if every avatar-change should be done manually
hollow sluice
the devs wont do anything about it anytime soon probably
no matter how easy your suggestion is to implement they probably wont do it
hallow trout
guessing servers just died im getting a spam failed to connect to vrchat
everytime the screen fades away it just hits me with the big ol' no u and sends me back to another screen of failed to connect
peak vale
Is there a way to make the game fullscreen desktop?
hallow trout
what do you mean
peak vale
Not windowed
tacit plank
Real fullscreen? Maybe alt+enter, otherwise you need to hold ctrl (or was it shift?) when starting VRC and change the Unity launch settings
hollow sluice
I use borderless windowed
peak vale
Alt enter worked
tacit plank
Cool
hollow sluice
works just fine
hallow trout
i did alt enter but there is a small black bar at the bottom of the screen ^_^ what fun
tacit plank
Probably something like the ratio being off after it attempts to compensate for the windows task bar? Try the launch settings if it's important
languid beacon
I’ve been waiting four months now for an index. If they go out of sale before I can order one on Monday, I’m giving up and getting a quest instead
peak vale
Quest?
frosty veldt
Oculus Quest, its an entirely mobile VR headset
flint stirrup
Quest isn’t even Pc, and it’s so limited
vocal shard
Adeon has used the quest already and knows what it's like. No need to convince them otherwise
And I can understand it to a degree. The option to use the quest as both stand alone and PC is nice
It's all where your priorities are in a device
frosty veldt
People misunderstand what the purpose of the quest is, obviously if you want the best visuals and framerate you wouldnt go for the mobile headset.
But yeah with the PC link the headset is in a much better spot imo
vocal shard
Why I still recommend rift S over quest with link for pure PC experience
hollow sluice
@flint stirrup pwankwake
flint stirrup
Reee
astral granite
g'day mate
hidden locust
I really hate being socially awkward... people try to interact with me and I just... I freeze up... I don't know how to respond, and any way I feel like I COULD respond, I'd wind up just messing it up and people start laughing at me. And not in the good way...
sharp trout
You could try just waving ”Hi” to them @hidden locust
hidden locust
I could... if I had a VR setup. I'm on PC with KB/M
Honestly, it's been a mental struggle and a half not to just get a credit card and outright buy a VR headset and upgrade my computer enough to have it run well...
sharp trout
Ah I see.
I currently have a worn Rift (CV1) and I want to buy a new VR HMD but I can’t choose and I want to buy a new pc/parts
twin fractal
rifts s or index
hidden locust
Yeah... I'm about there as well. My computer is in desperate need of an upgrade...
twin fractal
desperately need a new CPU
sharp trout
Yeah well I would buy a Rift S if they had headphones for it, and the Index is just a bit much for what I want to play etc, and my computer is not great- vr compatible but not great
vocal shard
There are some PSVR headphones that clip onto the headband. They work well for the rift S and feel similar to cv1
hidden locust
Yeah, my graphics card is sub-par, my CPU is crap... everything else is okay.
sharp trout
Plus the room I have is an L shape and the longside has a slanted cealing.. so setting up lighthouses optimally seems almost impossible
twin fractal
I feel like anything else wouldn't be nearly as upgrade worthy
vocal shard
I just got a 200$ dollar laptop.
sharp trout
Yeah I know about the Mantis headphones- I just haven’t seen enough about them to feel comfortable with them plus I believe when I looked on amazon they did not ship to my country :(
hidden locust
But yeah. Minimum graphics card is looking for a GTX 970
vocal shard
Ah. Yeah I've just been using normal headphones over my rift s
Im working on upgrading and stuff.
sharp trout
I feel like that’d be too clunky for me. I am picky enough about fit and comfort as is
hidden locust
My graphics card may be a GeForce GTX 1050, but it's stupidly underpowered from what other specs I could have gotten...
twin fractal
VR doesn't take nearly as much power as people imagine
hidden locust
It has a little less than 2 gigs of VRAM
twin fractal
I started with a GTX 1050 ti
hidden locust
I wish there were a proper compatibility checker other than Steam's crappy version...
twin fractal
then upgraded to an Rx 580 which is still mid tier
sharp trout
I have an RX 480 8GB and an i5 7600k
hidden locust
My CPU is an AMD FX-4300 Quad running on 3.8 GHz per core.
vocal shard
How much was the core?
hidden locust
I forget.
vocal shard
O.
hidden locust
My roommate bought this rig for me about 6 years ago. 400 bucks.
twin fractal
lol my cpu fucking died so I had to swap in the only one I had on hand: i3 processor
still suffering but it's okay
sharp trout
Probably 4 cores on the fx-4300 since you wrote ”Quad”?
twin fractal
it's become an issue when I have too many programs on at once
vocal shard
Yo my laptop trash it only got 1.1 ghz
when i bought it said it would have more
So i got scammed
twin fractal
laptops be like that
sharp trout
Well laptops- especially older ones or lower perfoemance ones don’t run high clocks
vocal shard
Did you build your pc?
twin fractal
yeah
sharp trout
It could also be downclocking due to heat @vocal shard
vocal shard
Its not hot.
sharp trout
Checked temps?
vocal shard
No How do i check?
sharp trout
Aaaaaaaaa like any tool you prefer
There are many applications that can show temperatures
vocal shard
Like?
sharp trout
I mean I know MSI Afterburner is pretty good for graphicscard info
But for cpu I am not sure what to recommend
vocal shard
O.
sharp trout
I have only recently used and still use SpeedFan
pastel imp
Hey all 😄
sharp trout
But it seems to crash for me fairly often for whatever reason
I haven’t bothered looking for a fix but yeah that’s why I dunno if I can recommend it
pastel imp
So what if you have an extremely personal question, that you don't feel comfortable emailing the team about.. Is there a way I can contact a mod about my question? Its kind of private 😛
vocal shard
Yo im downloading speedfan.
sharp trout
Aight
It may seem weird cuz it’s a bit not super user friendly (I think) but there should be plenty of youtube videos
hidden locust
Belatedly, yeah. 4 cores.
vocal shard
Ok.
hidden locust
Hence Quad
rigid crescent
@pastel imp What's the difference? A team member is gonna see it anyway
pastel imp
True, but the difference is one will see it, vs possibly hundreds ;p
I just wanted a private chat with one '
vocal shard
.
indigo fern
i wanna private chat with system too c;
hollow breach
Guys I can finally go to drinking parties in vrc 
Ur young childish boi is now 19
Hek yeah
canadian btw
sharp trout
Bruh
vocal shard
Im selling accounts for sites dm if intrested.
languid beacon
I want the full body experience of valve index but also the portableness and world development of quest. Can’t decide what I want to do more. Quest dev would benefit others more. Index would benefit me more
hollow breach
@vocal shard do any of the accounts have the name Original?
languid beacon
Quest dev looks fun tho
vocal shard
?
languid beacon
Quit talking so fast man space it out one word at a time
vocal shard
Yeah.
sharp trout
Most names that are ”simple” are taken
hearty pine
Can someone help me..? I'm having model troubles..
sharp trout
Wouldn’t it be better to ask in #avatars-2-general ?
hearty pine
It keeps saying I need to put in VRC_Avatar_Descriptor on my avatar.. And I did, and it still won't work..
I dunno..
sharp trout
Ask in the proper channel and everyone will be happy
hearty pine
I'm scared I'm not gonna get any replies.. -w-''
hollow breach
@sharp trout when I search up the name it doesn’t come up though ;;
But somehow it’s “taken”
No idea how that works but oh well
languid beacon
As opposed asking in this channel which will get replies, but they'll just say to ask in the other channel xD
sharp trout
Search it up where?
hearty pine
Yup..
sharp trout
With a zero?
hollow breach
It’s so sus
sharp trout
But I gotta say, not a very original name
hollow breach
If it was I should be able to find the person
languid beacon
I can't tell 0 from 0 they look exactly the same
hollow breach
Woah never heard that before
sharp trout
O - 0
hollow breach
@languid beacon they do in VRV but I rather have the O tbh
sharp trout
One is not as wide
hollow breach
*VRC
languid beacon
Depends on your font
sharp trout
Well that’s in-game
hollow breach
Yeah
languid beacon
There's a dude that owns the name Adeon, which I used to own, and he never uses it. It makes me sadface
hollow breach
😢
languid beacon
they cleared unused names and i didn't renew mine quick enough, someone else got it first
vocal shard
OWO
hollow breach
@languid beacon WHEN
sharp trout
And some ask if it’s spelt like that because ”Vanilla” was taken, but no that’s not it
languid beacon
@hollow breach June 8 2017
hollow breach
Oh lmao I joined VRC Dec 2017
deft girder
The search is pretty busted for finding specific names
languid beacon
deft girder
I'll check it for you
hollow breach
@deft girder I’d appreciate that thanks
languid beacon
They did it at the same time literally every internet service was sending out spam to agree to a new TOS or become deleted, and it got lost in the spam, so RIP VRC account
so unless some new UK law happens that makes everyone do that again, I doubt it will happen again
merry mesa
@hallow trout Are you still having connection issues? I'm having the same problem and it's not computer specific.
indigo fern
oh no
tiny sable
Wish VRC was for PSVR also
languid beacon
For anyone interested in purchasing a valve index, those already on the email list are seeing "on email list" button changed to "Coming Soon" just FYI
It no longer appears possible to get on the email list if you weren't already
I'm guessing they'll send out emails with buy links before the actual store page becomes active
cosmic shore
Any advice on what vr headset to get? I was thinking Oculus Rift S but it's hard to find it in stock lol
hallow trout
@merry mesa it seems to have stopped now
meager solstice
i mean depending on ur budget, but yes the oculus rift s is fine @cosmic shore
hallow trout
the rift s is a good choice if your on a budget and have limited space
meager solstice
if u have the funds, the index comes back in stock monday
vocal shard
Hi guys
cosmic shore
cool, thanks :)
vital reef
This wait period to upload the avatar is taking so long because I don’t have friends.
I have decided to sit in a empty world for the next 20 hours
maiden sand
Hey! Is there anyone that can publish a model for me?
vital reef
@maiden sand why don’t you try yourself?
maiden sand
@vital reef Not enough storage space
vital reef
Dang
maiden sand
Yeah...
vocal shard
Delete useless stuff to make more space then
steep crater
maiden sand
Not that easy
vital reef
stark forge
rigid crescent
it's crazy how people on twitter are only just now realizing that moderation doesn't work lol
vocal shard
It only worked early 2017 and before
When only 50 people played and the "call moderator" button actually did something
rigid crescent
well most people still don't seem to realize that the email/ticket support is almost surefire
at least in my experience
indigo fern
it still feels like half the people who write emails/tickets just put
"halp i got hacked heres their name"
rigid crescent
I've had one situation where an email with vid and/or pics didn't lead to anything and it was a ban evader
indigo fern
and complain why it didnt do anything
vocal shard
Vrchat mods should be able to read my mind and ban the appropriate offenders
Dead game anyway lmao
rigid crescent
like with all these tiddy avatars people have been complaining about, if you just report with screenshot and output log and nothing is done, it seems pretty clear that it means it ISN'T deemed a violation of the comm. guidelines
vocal shard
There are no rules anymore
Anyone can do anything they want and they won't be banned for months, if they even get banned
rigid crescent
what
i definitely have capped a few racists, even recently. just took video
the one case where it didn't stick was the evader, but out of those they're the only user I even know that evaded. Not everyone is "smart" enough to get a client, vpn, etc.
Like their response time has always been less than a week
indigo fern
hes just doing the doomer talk thing
wet sluice
I kinda wish I wasn't so damn lazy and had a computer capable of recording
For now, I'll use one as the excuse for the other
visual raven
Obviously record a lens with your cellphone
hollow sluice
Cant the quest take screens?
wary hollow
PS2 20th year anniversary
Since March 4th 2000 ✨
indigo fern
download a better childhood
bitter cargo
that is pretty sad
wide tundra
I keep getting "Failed to connect to VRChat" in a loop. any idea how to fix this?
already reinstalled it and removed local data folder
bitter cargo
are u using vr or desktop
coarse chasm
@hollow sluice how do Questies take screenshots?