#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 1001

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 12:39 AM

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grass moment

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Not our fault if you dont inform yourself before you buy something to be honest

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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i didn't buy the computer

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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O?

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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I didn't think you did tbh

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:41 AM

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everyone who helped buy it did

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i didn't even know that it was an office laptop

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this is just great

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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You can try reducing the graphic settings

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Hold shift while starting the game to do that

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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i can't even get in the game because i don't give enough time to get in because it's so slow

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i tried that

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Damn

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:42 AM

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nothing happens

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it just asks if i want to play in vr mode or in desktop mode

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nothing else

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even if i hold shift the whole time

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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After you selected that

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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yeah

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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finally i uploaded my avatar!

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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i select "Launch in Desktop Mode"

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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You select desktop mode and then hold shift

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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and then i hit "Play" with shift held

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still just brings me into the game

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Afterwards

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:44 AM

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nothing else asked

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Just hold shift after you select that option

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And wait until a graphics setting window opens

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:46 AM

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ok

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'll go see if it works

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i'll be back later

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bye

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it's still slow

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nothing has popped up either

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nothing has popped up

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i held shift THE WHOLE TIME

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@molten gale nothing showed up and i had shift held the whole time while launching

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it's been like 5 minutes and nothing has showed up

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10*

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Hmmm

opaque hawk Mar 3, 2020, 12:56 AM

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ctrl?

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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it's definitely shift

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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i'm already in the tutorial, i think it's too late

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i geuss i'll deal with laggy/slow gameplay

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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i mean i just did it with CTRL so

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:57 AM

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did it work

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did it bring something up

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Yep

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both work for me

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but i doubt itll help much on a laptop like that

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worth a try i guess

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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was it about a graphics setting?

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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yes

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:58 AM

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ok

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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don't expect it to magically make your computer good though

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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i'll google it and see if anything will help

opaque hawk Mar 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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block very poor avatars and don't show dynamic bones.

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 12:59 AM

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i- i'm not even in the game, how will that help me

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nothing helped on google

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well, i geuss i'll go try ctrl

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brb, i'll see if it works

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i can't turn it off

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Seeing as it's a 200 dollar laptop i really don't see it helping at all

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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help!

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wait wait... $200??

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that is cheap

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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yep

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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daaang

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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i think it was more like 350 - 400 new depending on spec

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but still a low end laptop

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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hm

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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dual core processor (4 threads) 1,7ghz base with 2,7ghz boost.

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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i can't turn it off

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 1:03 AM

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oh there were different tiers

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honestly i wouldnt worry about turning it off, it probably wouldnt help

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:04 AM

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i don't understand what that stuff is

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ok

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i'm gonna restart my pc

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brb

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wait, i'm gonna try again

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 1:04 AM

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gotta be honest, nothing is gonna help besides having a better PC

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:05 AM

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i don't have the money for it tho...

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 1:05 AM

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we concluded that a few times now, so i'd be great if you can move on

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nothing is gonna change that and you will have to deal with that

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Thanks cirComfy

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:06 AM

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i geuss this is why i started youtube

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not for the other things i said i started it for

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i mean... one thing was true

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only that one part

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wdym

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my email?

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:14 AM

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why can't you use your own

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or just make a new one

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:14 AM

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vrcBlush vrcExclaim

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:14 AM

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did you send it to MY EMAIL

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how did u find it?

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who told you it?

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where did u find it

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why mine

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nothing showed up

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Is this the famous a one person role play as 2 persons act?

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:15 AM

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make one

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go to gmail.com

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start making one

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 1:16 AM

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If you don’t know how to make a gmail you’re too young to play this game

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:16 AM

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yeahhh lmao

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:16 AM

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exactly

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:16 AM

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and how'd you even get discord without an email

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:16 AM

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how did u get here if you don't have one

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how did u get on discord without an email

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did you use mine for that too?

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Nice roleplay

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:17 AM

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wdym

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we aren't

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this is legit

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:18 AM

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when did delta say they were using your email i-

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:18 AM

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oh

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ok

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i misread

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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we really got people in this game that don't know how to make an email address

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Totally legit

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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how did you get discord without one

indigo fern Mar 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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it really be 2020 tho

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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kinda sus

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:19 AM

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yeah'

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oh

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that's REALLY a feature?

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this is just sad

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 1:20 AM

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you don't want to play VRChat trust me

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:20 AM

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the only way you access the internet, just killed by a little button...

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 1:20 AM

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your power level is far too low

indigo fern Mar 3, 2020, 1:21 AM

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who would win, any service that needs an email vs guest account

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:21 AM

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criiinge

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any service that needs email

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obviously

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having an email makes you OP everywhere

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:22 AM

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The plot t h i c c ens

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:22 AM

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lol

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 1:22 AM

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understandable

indigo fern Mar 3, 2020, 1:23 AM

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i dont have any games on it, so nah

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Ah the plot makes less sense now

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Plot

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I will be safe in my email address

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Ive never been so confused by a convo here

coarse rock Mar 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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cringe

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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i feel like i'm having a stroke reading through it lmao

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Ikr

coarse rock Mar 3, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Sounds about right 👍

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Maybe a youtube link on how to make an email can help

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 1:30 AM

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lol

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Still confused on how they got a discord account??

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 1:30 AM

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maybe troll dunno

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probably troll

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Tldr

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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@teal bison This Discord, and especiallythis Channel is VRChat related.

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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definitely troll

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Please keep it on Topic

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Looks like it is employing the power of coffee pasta

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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cirHuh

vernal forge Mar 3, 2020, 1:33 AM

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And its gone , off to find an email on that VRChat horizon

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Lmao

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 1:47 AM

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mmMM someone probably used a hack that changed my avatar and im pissed

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i could change it back tho so im good now lol

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 1:48 AM

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how come the author didn't port the old vrchat hub to quest

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Oh I'm new to vrchat, just got it last night (ik I'm kinda late to the game). Any overall advice or tips would be great lol

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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i can't play it very well

hollow breach Mar 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Stay away from the void club @cosmic shore

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Tryna save up for a headset for it and some other games too

hollow breach Mar 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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And the box

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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i can't play it

hollow breach Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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dont ask just trust me

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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i can, it's just really slow

hollow breach Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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please

cosmic shore Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Thanks for the heads up lmaooo

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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i just got off the game cause i got scared of something but yeet

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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what did u get scared of

hollow breach Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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@cosmic shore honestly just be yourself and talk to people, it’s a social game to make friends with

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No tips really needed

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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someone called "THE NARRATOR" talking in a Herbert The Pervert voice?

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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i got on the avatar testing world, got my avatar "hacked" and it had an animation that nearly made me fall off my chair

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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with a Herbert The pervert avatar

hollow breach Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Specific

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 1:58 AM

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and looouuud fuckin music

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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do you have a vrchat account, as in an actual one and not a steam or oculus account

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if so, go to the website, there is a button that will change your avatar back to the default one

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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is vrchat on ps4?

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i can't play it on pc

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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if not, clear your cache and spam CTRL+\ while loading into the game to force switch to the default avatar

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 1:59 AM

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oh no dw i actually could change it in game, but thanks for that!

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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you cant play it on PC at all? like desktop mode wont even run? because vrchat is not and will never come to PS4

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ah thats good!

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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i can

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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i wish i had time to report the avatar but my gamer fight or flight mode was activated so lmao

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

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it's really slow because i don't have a gaming desktop

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i don't have a desktop at all

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Solar how long will that 3 letter name trend persist

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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hahah

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trend

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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i'm just rocking on a dell latitude e5540

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Dell

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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yes

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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@molten gale whats the 3 letter name trend about

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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That explains everything tbh

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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No.

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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No.

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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i don't know how to do tht at all

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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u h-

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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i cant even play

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i can play, it's just really slow

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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My options would be "Pin" and "Sin" for the 3 letter trend

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:02 AM

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k

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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And tbh those are both terrible

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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ha

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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lmao

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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@desert stratus you know lin is the name of the girl in spirited away

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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cool

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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the one that helped the protagonist

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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i just like the name

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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don't spoil it

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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i loved that movie

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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i love that movie too

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Its 3 am frick

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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go to sleep!

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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go slep!!

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I should yeah

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Typical me

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Wanted to sleeep 2 hours ago

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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i'm a huge night owl and my sleep schedule is nonexistent

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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staying up isn't healthy for you

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Yesterday I slept less than an hour!

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:05 AM

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oh oof

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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hi gang!

copper pasture Mar 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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wassup!

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 2:07 AM

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just playing some eve right now. gonna get back into vrchat this weekend 🙂

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need to hook up my darn vr stuff >.<

lime umbra Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 AM

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hook it up. :) now is better than later.

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 2:38 AM

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gah i want to but i have so much things to do right now

grizzled pawn Mar 3, 2020, 2:55 AM

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How do I load into a created world. Any time I try to it just takes me to the main VR where you can then access the VRchat hub

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 2:57 AM

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make sure its fully uploaded correctly onto your account

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 3:01 AM

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bored

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 3:21 AM

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omg i got in the game

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i'm still slow so i'm having trouble turning down the graphics

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ok bye, i'm gonna go play the rest of the game now

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 3:25 AM

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u< nice

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 3:28 AM

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vrcThinking

topaz fiber Mar 3, 2020, 3:35 AM

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hewo

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 3:37 AM

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i was really slow

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i couldn't find out where i turn down the graphics

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 3:43 AM

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yep

deft iron Mar 3, 2020, 3:47 AM

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omg paci is so cute

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where is he at

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 3:48 AM

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oh no

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 3:49 AM

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shh

hushed veldt Mar 3, 2020, 4:22 AM

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endless loop after logging anyone else?

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 4:25 AM

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not yet

light niche Mar 3, 2020, 5:03 AM

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some people are saying there's a client that can somehow literally delete your entire ass VRC account now? literally how would that even be possible?? shit like that should be server side and encrypted??

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Thats not possible

light niche Mar 3, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i.e. no one should be physically able to affect someone else's account on the server using a client?

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Please dont talk about things that are obviously impossible because if you do then 100 more little children qre going to come in here asking the same question

light niche Mar 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I mean, tbh, I would have thought force changing someone's avatar was impossible, too, but, well.

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It's possible VRC's security is somehow just that bad I guess lol

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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AFAIK clients can only kick you, crash you in many ways, fake a ban, or grab your ip. Anyone who claims they can do more maliciously is bluffing or trying to scam you unless it consistently happens

light niche Mar 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Figured I'd just poke in here to make sure.

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 5:05 AM

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were all waiting on 2018 to fix that

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 5:12 AM

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They can also switch your avatar

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Falls under "many ways"

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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🤔

desert stratus Mar 3, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I think most clients at this point only switch avatars for crashing purposes

stuck iron Mar 3, 2020, 5:20 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlykuD3mwP8

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 AM

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oh neat, a "funny" vrchat video by some youtuber 💤

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 5:54 AM

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And posting it in the wrong channel

hasty anchor Mar 3, 2020, 6:06 AM

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VRChat slow for anyone else?

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VRChat is not loading anything at all, can't get into any other worlds, friends take forever to load their profiles, extremely slow startup screen

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Alright

proud marsh Mar 3, 2020, 7:43 AM

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When i play VRChat on my Pc, All the textures are messed up

broken plover Mar 3, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Did you update your graphics card drivers?

wild wadi Mar 3, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Servers are slow it seems

knotty tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Who wants to watch a movie

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 10:40 AM

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@proud marsh What GPU?

cosmic belfry Mar 3, 2020, 10:57 AM

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plop

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 11:13 AM

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For anyone interested; As of Virtual Desktop's recent updates, streaming PCVR to the Quest with it now has virtually imperceivable controller latency (it was pretty obvious before) so in VRChat it basically feels completely native. Compression artifacting is still sometimes visible but that's about the only caveat.

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:41 AM

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Does anyone have any experience with these vive tracker straps?- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tracker-Wristband-Tracking-Trackers-Capture/dp/B07PB7JKS3/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Tracker+Belt+%2B+2+Wristband+Straps+%2B+2+Palm+Straps+Full+Body+Tracking+VR+Bundle+for+HTC+Vive+Trackers+Motion+Capture&qid=1583235681&s=videogames&sr=1-1

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:47 AM

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@keen trench yeah I have them

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:47 AM

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How are they fairing ?

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Thank you so much for the responce btw ❤️

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:48 AM

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they are nice but the Velcro on one of the leg straps started giving off a bit. its still more than usable and doesnt limit me at all though

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I have been using them like every day since november

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:48 AM

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can you just sew the velcro back on ?

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:49 AM

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its not falling off. its just not as sticky anymore

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:49 AM

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oh hmm that sucks

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:49 AM

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there is some general wear and tear from the usage on teh pads where the trackers go but as long as you dont take the trackers off the starps offten that wont be a problem either

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Oh hmmm

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

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honestly I bought them from 20€ on aliexpress and they work amazingly for that price

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:50 AM

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seems like a bad set off straps then ahaha

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I paid 45 pounds for my set ahaha

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:51 AM

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thats way more than what I paid for these and they work perfectly fine

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:51 AM

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Ah right well the uk pricing is pretty bad

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track straps go for 85 pounds

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:51 AM

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well the trackstraps are like 60€ here which is insane

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:51 AM

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So these seemed like a good alternative

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Yeah i think that is very pricy for god dam strap ahaha

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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yeah its just a velcro with a screw

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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ahaha

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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they should be like 10 bucks to be honest lol

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Yeah true ahaha

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You haven't had the thread break on you right?

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Heard some horror stories about cheap trackers

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:54 AM

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not at all

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they never fell off even if I smacked them against the wall

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(I kicked a wall like the idiot I am)

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blade and sorcery is too immersive

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Ah ok great

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Well replacing the velcro is very cheap and easy anyways

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ngl I was kinda scared that I made the wrong choice of straps ahaha

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

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ehh I used corcks and my belt before I had the same experience really

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but thats just me I am cheapskate

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Well i'm not a cheapskate but I think 85 pounds for straps with velcro is a giant scam

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

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well its an undersaturated market

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

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True!

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

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they should only be 35 now

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

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I agree

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 11:58 AM

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the pricing went down some time ago for the rebuff reality ones

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:59 AM

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What were they priced at?

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 11:59 AM

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I mean they are charging overkill and people are buying it because theres no other option so they can get away with it

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 11:59 AM

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True

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Well i still paid a premium for mine but what ever

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I mean so long as there somewhat comfy and last idm

hollow sluice Mar 3, 2020, 12:02 PM

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doesnt really matter how much you pay if they last long

keen trench Mar 3, 2020, 12:03 PM

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True

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I mean bought these hoping they would be decent

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Should have asked the community before i purchased them tho ahaha

worthy grove Mar 3, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Does anyone know what this world is called. A world with horror Disney. I need this name. That was my favorite world

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Pls

rigid crescent Mar 3, 2020, 12:10 PM

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probably Fever Dream

worthy grove Mar 3, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Ok thx

lucid elk Mar 3, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Hi, roma

worthy grove Mar 3, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Hey

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 1:54 PM

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is anyone having the same issue as me where it takes forever to upload an avatar?

north axle Mar 3, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I heard there were issues with the servers last night. We couldn’t upload any avatars for a while because of that.

lucid socket Mar 3, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I've Been hearing things about VRChat to update the unity ver, make dynamic bones global/peer-to-peer and etc etc for 2020. Well, I don't believe that will happen any time soon, and if it does it is probably in the distant future.

Take all rumours with a large grain of salt.

north axle Mar 3, 2020, 2:25 PM

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VRC usually releases only one or two big updates a year max.

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Pretty sure we already have dynamic bones lmao

north axle Mar 3, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Maybe Ned was talking about global dynamic bone colliders? Lots of people have been asking for that but I doubt this sorta thing will get added any time soon.

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 2:28 PM

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that would be nice thou

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Probably but the devs have already said they don't want to add it due to optimization even with an option to disable/enable

umbral reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:29 PM

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@lucid socket they produced a road map of things they want to make
A dbone replacement was on that

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Yeah if anything it's a topic to wait for if/when we are using a seperate system

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 2:30 PM

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you can only take vr so far...laptop lagged like hell when i first got on i had to turn the settings down..i dont lag at all now

lucid socket Mar 3, 2020, 2:30 PM

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i m w a i t i n g

umbral reef Mar 3, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Also just because it's on the roadmap doesn't mean they will do it

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As the group that it's part of had loads of things under it

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Well unity update is probably going to happen in 2nd quarter but can't say since we're waiting on unity rn not vrc

lucid socket Mar 3, 2020, 2:32 PM

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I jus wish I had better patience lol, like I don't mind but at the same time I'm like -blank expression-

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 2:33 PM

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I've just done other things, not too hyped about the 2018 update as it doesn't address my biggest issues

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@lucid socket Why do you think you'd be privy to rumours about features that other people much closer to the team or development wouldn't be?

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But given how much in VRC is just direct Unity stuff, I'd be surprised if they made their own dynamic bones replacement (and could competently make it more performant than the current implementation).

pseudo basalt Mar 3, 2020, 4:13 PM

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current implementation is from like 2017

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or 2015 even

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with new unity systems could be done

sly fiber Mar 3, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I have 216 hours and I've been stuck at orange for like 200 hours

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how df do I get to purple

broken plover Mar 3, 2020, 4:16 PM

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did you upload any avatars or worlds? If not and you plan on not uploading anything then prepare to play for 1000 or more hours

sly fiber Mar 3, 2020, 4:17 PM

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bruh I'm to lazy for all that

polar jasper Mar 3, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Just make a new scene, slap in a plane and the VRCWorld prefab, upload, done 👍

glad bolt Mar 3, 2020, 4:43 PM

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And that lack of motivation is precisely why you're not purple.

plain citrus Mar 3, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Hey uhh whenever I try to play VRchat in VR mode it doesn’t respond. Like it’s just a black screen and then wont respond. But desktop mode works fine. Idk what to do, I’ve reinstalled the game and restarted my computer several times.

meager solstice Mar 3, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@plain citrus does ur pc play other vr games in vr?

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 4:51 PM

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You’re orange at 200 hours wha

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Orange at 200 with no uploads is normal imo

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Really?? I’m still green at over 200 hours and a few avatar uploads

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I guess that’s why my friends told me I should be orange anytime now

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I was purple at 280

indigo fern Mar 3, 2020, 5:00 PM

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theres no set req so it varies a whole lot since people play different

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Many of my friends need around 1k to reach trusted

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Wat the hecc

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Oh im legend now

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Lmao

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I didn't think that rank was actually assigned anymore?

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 5:16 PM

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shows up in the api

opaque hawk Mar 3, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I don't remember when the trust system came out, but I think I had around the same amount of hours as Paci at the time and had trusted.

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so I do think time is not something to be concerned about if you want to rank up.

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Active time is probably an exponent (or at least has minimum gates) rather than not being involved at all.

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 5:22 PM

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it's involved for sure

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I got to new user in one play session with one friend and idling in void club

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on an alt acc

pseudo basalt Mar 3, 2020, 5:27 PM

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No reason for it to not be involved honestly, it's the easiest thing to track. They just say idling doesn't work to discourage people from doing it

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And because it's probably not that effective

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah also got new user in less than 10 hours

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Idling likely is tracked, in that it doesn't count which is why people on desktop rank slower, because they're "idle" a lot more, where as in VR, you're always moving, even when you aren't.

plain citrus Mar 3, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@meager solstice I tried to open another Brahms and it didn’t work

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Vr* tf

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Brahms

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:45 PM

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For some odd reason on VRC some people were removed and I did not Unfriend them at all whatsoever x_x

still lark Mar 3, 2020, 5:46 PM

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But did they unfriend you? :P

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:46 PM

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no they didnt

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some other people reported the same thing on their end

still lark Mar 3, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Might have been an API hiccup.

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:48 PM

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API Hiccup? O_o

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that doesnt sound good..

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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no it's fine

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not the first time

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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one time i had a friend joined me and i see them orange and they said they have me on friendslist when i didn't for them

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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^See? I told you x.x

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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but that was like last year

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Im not sure what is going on with VRC honestly, but this is sort of becoming an issue

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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maybe its a small bug, you can fix it by telling them to unfriend and re-add you

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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It happened to me two times earlier

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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both do it actually

lofty cipher Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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:x

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 5:51 PM

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🙊

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 6:00 PM

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gr

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vous parler francais?

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Hey there cirComfy
If you want so speak French and take a look into the -> #french Channel

Please stick to English in other places of this Discord cirComfy

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 6:02 PM

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vous parlez français*

twin fractal Mar 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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cease

ivory frost Mar 3, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Hey has the word been spreading about NVidia adding VRSS support for VRchat as of the driver released on Febuary 27th? Game-Ready 442.50

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 6:37 PM

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no

ivory frost Mar 3, 2020, 6:37 PM

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VR-SS means super sampling for your focal point instead of the entire display. This allows for better resolution with less impact to frame rates and it should be a pretty big deal for VRchat performance for anyone using an NVidia card. As an example VRSS nearly doubles the framerate of a PC with 4x VRSS vs what 4xss was for the entire scene.

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Well I guess it won't help frame rates for anyone not currently using super sampling at all, but it might let those people add some SS without hurting their existing frame rate. 2x super sampling makes VRC look great even on the OG Vive and Rift

faint skiff Mar 3, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Or maybe they unfriended you and didn't want to admit it. "Oh hey, that's weird, you're not my friend anymore..." "Oh really? Wow, I wonder how that happened, heh, darned VR Chat..." "Oh no worries, let me just readd you!" "... yaaaay...." lol

stoic adder Mar 3, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Is anyone else having issues with avatars in VRC rn?

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My favourited avatars are not showing, I only see the public default ones, recommended avatar worlds and that..

frosty veldt Mar 3, 2020, 7:08 PM

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While I'm positive that vrc removes people at random rarely, I have used it as a cover up to remove people.

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@stoic adder seems fine to me

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 7:29 PM

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How do they measure “idling”? Do you have to actively hop worlds or some?

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 7:30 PM

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any action other than just standing still

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in a way you could say that its harder for desktop users to gain ranks, but not impossible

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if they like...you know talk or grab objects and stuff

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Hmmm

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Interesting

devout patio Mar 3, 2020, 8:18 PM

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is there a fastest way to report that my account was stolen? i sent an email to support a day ago

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 8:27 PM

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no sadly, everything is handle through support

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can try and dm a mod though(but don't do that)

jagged zodiac Mar 3, 2020, 8:33 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/564963244481970201/671217259003248640/VRChat_1920x1080_2020-01-26_20-56-51.106.png I know I asked this yesterday in random in the middle of the night during a conversation about these, but since it’s day in the US, does anyone know where I can buy/get this model from? 💖 Thank you sm~

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 8:36 PM

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i think they are booth models? not sure

jagged zodiac Mar 3, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Mhm, I’ve tried looking through booth and haven’t found them yet though

obtuse root Mar 3, 2020, 8:58 PM

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how do i get a friend to see my movie aswell as me in my world?

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 8:58 PM

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wait for it

obtuse root Mar 3, 2020, 8:59 PM

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no i meant in unity anyone know?

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 8:59 PM

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oh

obtuse root Mar 3, 2020, 8:59 PM

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the settings of the video screen bugs me

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 9:00 PM

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ask in the specific channel and you might get more advices. I assume thats a world thing so... #world-development

obtuse root Mar 3, 2020, 9:00 PM

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ok thanks

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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@jagged zodiac https://booth.pm/en/items/1093504

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Hey all

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Look how much they ruined that cutie

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 9:47 PM

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What

indigo fern Mar 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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they just made the hair pure black and gradient the tips lmao

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but to be fair i never liked her original rain boots

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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she looks fine as she is, i don't see the issue

jagged zodiac Mar 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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awhhh,, thank you so much!! the original is much cuter

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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They ruined it yea

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Its also not supposed to be a public model

jagged zodiac Mar 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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oof, i wonder how people don’t feel bad redistributing stuff people worked hard on w/out permission

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Western community in a nutshell

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well a big part of it

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 10:06 PM

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You right

opaque hawk Mar 3, 2020, 10:07 PM

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yes, there is big difference. I sometimes see public kons which is another model that is not supposed to be public.

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There was a booth model base I ended up deciding to abandon because the usage rules were too vague.

tame seal Mar 3, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Where are you guys' main places to go for avatars or character models/assets to create your own avatars?

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 10:33 PM

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??

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Uhh wat language do I need to watch bot

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 10:33 PM

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capitalize letters

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Hmm

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Please do not mention that website here

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Thank you

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yeah that

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i assume as much.

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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It’s a model site so I was just answering the question, my bad

covert blade Mar 3, 2020, 10:36 PM

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One that is best avoided

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I see

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I did not know

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My apologies, i’m new to VRC

slate verge Mar 3, 2020, 10:40 PM

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don't worry about it

coarse chasm Mar 3, 2020, 10:43 PM

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It’s the only place I know so derp

molten gale Mar 3, 2020, 10:43 PM

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3rd outfit attempt

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the weightpainting made it so I had to remove a lot underneath

sinful matrix Mar 3, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Same
I cannot log in VRCHAT
Invites system broke when you wanna restart VRCHAT just giving an error

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Anyone having this issue?

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Hey there cirComfy

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I was inviting someone, but they can't see it

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Please keep questions to one channel and dont ask it across multiple simultaniously cirComfy

sinful matrix Mar 3, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Just a thing for everyone in the VRCHAT community because this is strange.

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Invites dont work no one sees it but if you log out VRCHAT you cannot go back in.

ruby needle Mar 3, 2020, 11:17 PM

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That definitely sound's like some connectivity problems.

sinful matrix Mar 3, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Also the fact that i got loaded twice in an instance is already strange like for example homeworld and when it was full loaded once again another load then out of no where a public instance.

vocal shard Mar 3, 2020, 11:20 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Mar 3, 2020, 11:20 PM

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There are 7810 users in VRChat currently

opaque hawk Mar 3, 2020, 11:23 PM

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that's not bad for being in the middle of the day/early evening in the Americas.

vital reef Mar 3, 2020, 11:54 PM

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So I have just found out this game is social anxiety simulator

sharp saddle Mar 3, 2020, 11:59 PM

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LUL

slender pebble Mar 4, 2020, 12:00 AM

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some dumbass dropped a toilet on me and it crashed me

pseudo bobcat Mar 4, 2020, 12:04 AM

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something you only hear in vrchat

plain citrus Mar 4, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Ugh I need help. My VRchat won’t start up when I try to play in VR mode. It was doing perfectly fine yesterday but now when I open it it’s a black screen then it stops responding. I tried another VR game but it wouldn’t open either. I uninstalled and reinstalled steam but it still won’t work?? Is there something wrong with my headset? Idk what to do

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 12:09 AM

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vrchat does a better job at real life therapy and you can do it for free right at home

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@plain citrus usually its because of some other program or apps interfering with your steamvr, Might want to re-set up your vr in the steam vr tutorial.

plain citrus Mar 4, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Ok, how do I do that? Do I start in desktop mode and switch over?

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 12:17 AM

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uh...no....i don't think thats how it works

plain citrus Mar 4, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Oh in the steam VR, I misread that. I’ll try it

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 12:18 AM

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yeah~

cursive scroll Mar 4, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Quick question but does anyone know a good GPU that will run VRC but is like $200-250

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or should i just go for broke and save for a RTX 2060

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:22 AM

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can anyone help me with something?

plain citrus Mar 4, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Uh so the steamVR tutorial just flashes and I can’t move or look around

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:23 AM

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hi guys

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(W)hy
(A)re
(S)quids
(D)ying

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Plus side of every headset over Valve Index: +You have the ability to purchase it if you want to buy one

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 12:25 AM

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@cursive scroll requires decent cpu and gpu. I would recommended an i5 generation or higher along with any graphics card that is 970 gtx

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any rtx works well with i5 and will play vrc decently well

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:26 AM

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hello

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can anyone help me with something?

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 12:26 AM

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however, depending on avatars and worlds It won't always save you from performance. You will be pretty much the same as anyone else who has a minimum pc specs.

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@stuck iron whats the need

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:27 AM

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i need people to help me make an anime episode

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no money required, all on our own

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i need voices, characters, and cool stuff what anime's have

cursive scroll Mar 4, 2020, 12:27 AM

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is a AMD FX-6300 a good CPU? i have no idea about computers

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:27 AM

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idk

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me either

plain citrus Mar 4, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I give up lmao I guess I just have to play desktop mode

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 12:28 AM

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i'm not too technical on the amd side unfortunately. but on steam Minimum requirement for cpu is: AMD FX 8350 equivalent or greater

cursive scroll Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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huh the steam program said i was good with my CPU thats weird

delicate copper Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It's like, i3 level performance

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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it says that on default i think

delicate copper Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Ryzen would be your best bet

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

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yeah

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expensive, but reliable

cursive scroll Mar 4, 2020, 12:30 AM

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i find multiple models of Ryzen

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 12:30 AM

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how would i know, i have a dell latitude e5540

thorn fern Mar 4, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Mm.... Ryzen is goood....

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I currently am forced to play with an i3 processor

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 12:55 AM

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i shall pay my respects with a formal F

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 12:57 AM

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big f tbh

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game is still mostly gpu so I can still run VR at 90 Hz

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you mainly have to look out for BG processes

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Trying to decide between an upgrade build to a Ryzen 9 vs Intel I9. I think the Ryzen may run this game better then the I9 due to the extra threads and cores. What do y'all think?

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:27 AM

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yeah

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you should switch to Ryzen

bright jolt Mar 4, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I run the game pretty great with a i9

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:29 AM

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@vocal shard power is irrelevant for this game cuz you can still get crashed and lags as well as major fps drops due to avatar and world variants and some idiot players. On to the question though, it really depends on which you want.

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i know a streamer and he had an i9 and still gets crashed from random people he met in public instances, specifically the great pug cuz he sings there

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 1:30 AM

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single thread speed would be better no?

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I am currently running an i7700hq 4 cores overclocked to 3.8G and with 32 gigs of ram and a GTX 1070. With my VR headset I get like 40 fps in the pub. So I guess I am wondering the best way to get that up to 80fps.

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:32 AM

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you can't because you already have the relevant power

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its the worlds and avatar that are decreasing the fps

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:33 AM

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oh ok

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:33 AM

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yeah for example if you hang and chill out in Room of the rain or mostly Quest worlds, you will see a major boost in your fps

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:33 AM

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wow

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how major u talking

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:34 AM

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that cool I had no idea

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 1:34 AM

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basically this game is just shit performance wise

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:34 AM

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idk it varies, but i notice my fps was decently high when i was in room of the rain Until a friend joins with one of their stupidly 100k+ poly avatar

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:34 AM

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dang

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how do you make an avatar?

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is there a specific program?

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:35 AM

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but being as a friend i can't block them straight up so whatever. I just let them be and suffer the fps drop.

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:35 AM

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or can i just make something with zbrush and upload it to the game?

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:36 AM

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you need Unity and a package called vrc_sdk. I believe you will learn more about it in #avatars-2-general pins

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:36 AM

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oh ok

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i don't want to download it

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:36 AM

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In that situation why is the frame rate go down. Would better hardware help at all.

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:36 AM

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so, nvm

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@vocal shard nope. Its the worlds or avatars like i said.

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so the next time you see your frame drops, you look around carefully and check the users Poly.

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:37 AM

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ok.

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:38 AM

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if its very high for the users, then you hide their avatar which will evidently change them into a robot.

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Or you can change everyone into a robot by default in the safety settings first.

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:38 AM

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can anyone help with something?

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i'm making an anime episode, and I need help with it

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Thanks for the info

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 1:39 AM

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you're not gonna find much help for making anime episodes in this discord sadly

stuck iron Mar 4, 2020, 1:40 AM

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ok

pine grail Mar 4, 2020, 2:42 AM

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hi\

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 2:57 AM

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hi

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 3:03 AM

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hi

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Is it hard to make friends in vrchat if you don't talk?

vital reef Mar 4, 2020, 3:40 AM

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@wide void I too would like to know

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I am scared of social interactions

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Everyone is nice

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Well everyone i’ve met

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Honestly for the last couple days I would run past everyone to the top room in the pug then slowly try coming down to meet people but get too nervous so I go back up

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Hello

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 3:50 AM

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@vocal shard hello

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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sup

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Nm on Netflix what about you

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Chilling on voice channels

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What do you watch?

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And ik someone who has anxiety like that.

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She is scared of ordering food.

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I used to be like that but then i discovered it was the medicine i had to take for my adhd that made me like that

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I got got off of it

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And i was normal

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I just finished watching I am not okay with this it was pretty good had an ending I was not expecting, I have to order pizza over an app tho I think I'm getting better, it's good you found out about your medicine

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Sorry I type slow

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Ye

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Mine wasnt that bad i could talk its that i always had a dry throat and i always walked slow.And get nervous outta no where

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I still had friends

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Were you born with it?

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And yo do you have a job? sorry for personal questions.

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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I don't have adhd sorry if I gave you the impression I did, I don't even think I have anxiety problems I'm just socially awkward once I get to know someone I open up a lot, yea I'm a heavy duty mechanic

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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O nice

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Adhd is really big

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i get the impression it doesnt affect me

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Yea I'm from a really small town so I haven't met someone with adhd irl but I do hear about it a lot

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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o

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Well i hope you overcome it somehow and be really happy.

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Gn.

wide void Mar 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Thanks for talking with me Gn

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Np.

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question, i'm curious where i could advertise something to do with VR Chat? It isn't a world or an avatar or anything, basically like a group. I would explain but I don't want to turn this into an advertisement lol.

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If anyone needs information to answer just DM.

elder nexus Mar 4, 2020, 7:47 AM

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request: distance based dynamic bone culling

pseudo basalt Mar 4, 2020, 7:56 AM

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isn't that already a thing

ruby needle Mar 4, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Yes. And the setting is forced on too I believe.

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(Distant disable)

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 8:28 AM

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#moderation-reports

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:06 PM

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@slate verge most people avatars are too high poly example the e girl avatars 300k is normal to see and more materials then a ps2 game tons of bones coliders etc they by far the fps blackholes in vrc so bad that a friend with wireless adapter has to hide those e girl avatars or his at 144p VR

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but polys not the worst thing actually but having 300+k on like 20 people goes to insane numbers i think vrc should increase the limit to 100k before avatars become poor or very poor

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 12:18 PM

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It's at 70k and that's more than enough

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 12:21 PM

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VRChat public has basically become: Allow all avatars = 40fps (painful in VR) or Block Very Poor = 1/2 to 3/4 of the lobby disappear.

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They need to start enforcing limits in some way.

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Hard limits is not the worst thing in the world

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Its not gonna kill the community or the creator community. It will force out everyone who isnt giving a shit, who wont be missed

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There will always be modded SDKs but the client itself can already autoblock heavy avatars

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Hell, why arent there any very strict hard limits for at least public avatars?

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Basically. Creators can easily pack things into sane values. 99% of offenders are grabbing crap from VRCM and just uploading it. If you ask any of these people about their terrible avatar, the response is always "I don't care". Great, thanks...

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Really

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At the very least if you want to preserve cool animation avatars

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Just impose both sdk and client hard limits on public avatars. Dont allow people toanually show public avatars if they are over medium

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Manually*

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:28 PM

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was tough to get my avatar to med Rank
but something has to be done to make people not make a avatar with ton of things on it like 400+ bones

dusk mesa Mar 4, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Well, my models are ususlly atlased and under 70-80k poly, they are usually orange, but as soon as I add dynamic bones on EVEN short hair with a ponytail, it goes red 🤷

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 12:28 PM

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I'd say the "poor" rank is fine. It's just people overshoot into Very Poor by insane amounts these days.

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:28 PM

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the issues is when everyone is using those heavy avatars

dusk mesa Mar 4, 2020, 12:29 PM

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The issue is the MATERIAL count and colliders

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Models with 30-40 materials + 10Colliders + is insane

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:30 PM

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@dusk mesa the limit perhaps should be higher on bones and few other things but not high enough where everyone just has insane numbers

dusk mesa Mar 4, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Yes i agree

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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perhaps add a new Rank upove very poor where someone exceeds the limits by 100%

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call it Trash Rank

dusk mesa Mar 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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🤣

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:32 PM

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😂

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#vrchat-pictures @dusk mesa

dusk mesa Mar 4, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Pff thats nothing 🤣 hold up lemme search something

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:39 PM

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@dusk mesa took me 1 min to find people using those avatars

dusk mesa Mar 4, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Check now 🤣 @wary hollow

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 12:40 PM

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@desert stratus there was a hard limit

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But that went to the bin when the lab shit was done

wary hollow Mar 4, 2020, 12:41 PM

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damm

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that looks like a crash avatar from those numbers

hot barn Mar 4, 2020, 12:50 PM

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guys can i take a own selfie with PC type without Mirror ?

devout berry Mar 4, 2020, 12:53 PM

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???
Do you mean desktop mode?

hot barn Mar 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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yah !

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i'm new around so can't sure gonna buy VR soon :"<

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just want to take some memories with my friend here

devout berry Mar 4, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I think there is no way to make selfies in Desktop mode without mirror.

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Desktop mode has limited camera set to only panoramatic ones.

hot barn Mar 4, 2020, 12:56 PM

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aaah ! now that clear all my confuse while i'm searching ..
@devout berry tks

devout berry Mar 4, 2020, 12:58 PM

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There is request to be able to use other cameras using xbox controller on canny, but I think they haven't got to reviewing it yet.

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 1:11 PM

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What a surprise

west roost Mar 4, 2020, 1:37 PM

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hello

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 2:32 PM

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My safety settings are all avatars shown fully featured for all ranks. Except very poor is always hidden. Friends manually overridden to always show even if very poor

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:34 PM

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for mine friends have everything enabled, non friends just have voice and avatar only enabled no matter what rank (except visitor which is set to voice only)

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so it usually takes 60-70 players in an instance for it to get 30-ish frames for me usually

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(unless its a world that doesn't perform well)

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I have 15fps or less with 25-30 players

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:37 PM

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it takes a lot for me to feel even slightly motion sick so I don't mind running around in 30 fps. Only becomes an issue when its below 15 frames and the game is a slideshow XD

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but the world creator meetups are a good example of how 60-70 people can work in vrc

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and we've sometimes hit full 80 there

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all optimized avatars for the most part at these events too

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my world hop events are constantly around 40 people and performance for me was fine

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but this is all with the safety settings I use above

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I also have the dynamic bone setting turned on too

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whatever the default value is ingame

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 2:40 PM

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32 transforms / avatar

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:40 PM

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🙂

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 2:40 PM

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8-16 collision checks / avatar

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:41 PM

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sounds right 🙂

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but i've generally had a good time performance wise in vrc for a long time now

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most of my friends tend to have optimized avatars so that helps a lot

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i stopped using dynamic bones myself for new avatars now, didn't like how they behave when you move about

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and I'm not the type of person who finds sits in the same spot ingame for hours so soft tilts to see hair flop around is not something I experience XD

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 2:44 PM

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My biggest wish list is for Blocked avatars to have profile pictures on the chest like quest does

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:45 PM

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oh like the thumbnail of the avatar?

dapper kelp Mar 4, 2020, 2:45 PM

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What if they marked if someone changed avatar when you blocked

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Unless thats what adon means?

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Adeon means just showing the avatar thumbnail on the chest I think

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so you can indentify each person in the robot avatar

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which I think would be cool 🙂

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yeah quest already does it no idea why Pc can’t have it

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Makes a room full of robots less confusing, especially if nameplates are off

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:51 PM

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ooh, good point

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it'll probably come around eventually for pc in that case 🙂

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Well it has been a while

viscid seal Mar 4, 2020, 2:52 PM

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well they've had their hands full

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so lets wait to see what they focus on once 2018 and udon are out 🙂

indigo fern Mar 4, 2020, 3:00 PM

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🙃

white kettle Mar 4, 2020, 3:29 PM

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does anyone know a car avatar where u can sit in it?

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 3:30 PM

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There is one in the toga ikita avatar world unless they removed it

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 3:31 PM

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saved?

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 3:34 PM

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🤫

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 3:39 PM

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🤫

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 3:40 PM

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🤡

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 3:43 PM

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how dare you

proven spindle Mar 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Hi

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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How r u

proven spindle Mar 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I just saw a avatar used in vr chat maybe

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But I'm not sure about where to get it

half shadow Mar 4, 2020, 4:03 PM

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an avatar*

proven spindle Mar 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Is it ok if I send a picture or smtg

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It's sfw and i saw it from YouTube

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:05 PM

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So may I ask why world leader avatars aren't okay, yet panties on 9 year old anime girl avatars are okay?

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 4:06 PM

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every girl wears (or should wear) panties so thats why theyre allowed I guess

proven spindle Mar 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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I just saw a avatar used in vr chat maybe
^

half shadow Mar 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Www

proven spindle Mar 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Is it ok if I send a picture or smtg
^

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:15 PM

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That isn't a valid reason. This is on child-like figures. And I'm pretty kids don't wear panties for everyone to see, especially in public. I haven't even touched upon the giant genitalia avatars yet.

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Wait what, they shouldn't be wearing panties? O_o. That's gotta be a first

white kettle Mar 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Why are there so many kids screaming

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in vr chat\

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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cause its vrchat

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when you say "screaming" do you mean as legit screaming?

silent whale Mar 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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its free and theres a desktop mode, that helps with getting screaming kids

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:20 PM

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true

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i'm fine with kiddo's if they don't scream

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no point in hating a person for being born later than yourself

odd lava Mar 4, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I am fine with them if I do not see em :D

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Sure, but it gives you something to focus your problems on—how annoying they are. That's why people have issues with kids. Because they lack maturity.

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I've meet ton of kiddo's who are mature

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saying every kid is immature is a weak mindset

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but thats just how i feel

odd lava Mar 4, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Idc honestly mature of not, I do not want then around irl or vr 😅

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:25 PM

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They are immature—physically

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:25 PM

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good point

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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And the ones I'm talking about are like below age 11

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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if the kid is above the age of 13 he's "good"

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Idk about that

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Not necessarily

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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he's old enough for the game atleast

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I've met 22yo who aren't mature

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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There are immature adults out there in their 40s

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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true

polar rose Mar 4, 2020, 4:32 PM

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for some reason i get really uncomfortable around young kids in VR when im in VR too. i can't explain why but there is something deeply unsettling about it.

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like under the age of 15.

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i think it's something to either do with their avatar, or that they're the same size as me, or the way they approach me or act, im not really sure, but i do not like it at all lol

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Yeah same

polar rose Mar 4, 2020, 4:35 PM

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and it's specifically VR kids, not desktop ones. those are fine.

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it almost feels like its just an environment they dont belong in.

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im all for them being there tho for sure, i just get a lil freaked out for some reason

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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If only we could mute or block them or something

frosty veldt Mar 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I always just ponder how they convinced thier parents to buy them a VR headset

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:38 PM

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true

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Nothing wrong with gatekeeping things that people clearly shouldn't be in. VRChat is full of, what is essentially girls of questionable age dressed as hookers.

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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people below the age of 13 def's shouldn't be in vrc

frosty veldt Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Well that's against TOS anyway

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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yeah

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Nobody care about tos lmao

silent whale Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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im pretty sure its law that they cant have accounts for stuff under 13 regardless of platform

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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But is it though? Given that nothing has ever been done about it and those avatars make up most public lobbies these days?

silent whale Mar 4, 2020, 4:40 PM

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i dont remember

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Talking about several things at once here

frosty veldt Mar 4, 2020, 4:41 PM

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@faint skiff While it isn't as common as it should be people are banned for being younger than 13 and for having suggestive material. It's against the rules but the rules are enforced once in a blue moon

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

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agree'd

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but there's no point in gatekeeping kids (above the age of 13) in vrc

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they have as much right to be there as you

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Do they?

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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yes

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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they do

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but I don't particularly like them

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:46 PM

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correct

polar rose Mar 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I ain't gatekeeping, they can be there it's great that they are and get to have fun and experience it, I just personally get a little weirded out.

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Some situations more than others

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:48 PM

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This is like, something on all of the internet

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Just don't go to quest compatible worlds lol

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@frosty veldt That'll be due to the complete lack of moderators/moderation.

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Problem solved

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 4:49 PM

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there's like so many different things going on here than just gatekeeping

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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only people born before 1400BC can react with 🗿

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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1 - you cant keep kids away from everything especially if you personally know kids who have the maturity, knowledge, and experience to handle something like VR

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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oh this type of gatekeeping

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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2 - you can reasonably bar" kids" (pick an age) from interacting with you for a number of specific and strong reasons. Maturity is valid and okay, to keep kids away from you, not the platform. sometimes it can be more specific, like how commissioners do not accept business from young people in case they can't properly manage money

frosty veldt Mar 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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People always say that it's the players job to report people but it's usually easier to just move on

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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3 - who you interact with is up to you, and block / mute tools decide this. In a more ideal future we would finally have that guild feature or at least rhe ability to mark lobbies as 18+ or some other form of restricted

wet sluice Mar 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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What if I'm a 900yo mature lolibaba?

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Thatll never happen XD

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Unless i allow it

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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true

hollow ingot Mar 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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~~ID verification for 18+~~

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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there should be worlds that are 18+

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Oh and 4 - i wont deny that there is radical differences between platforms that are exclusively 18+ and only 13+, even if people try to fake ages. I think for VRChat specifically you really only need circles that are 18+, hence there should be guild or restricted instance support, which i think lends itself to guild support since thats already a feature that the dev team has entertained

molten gale Mar 4, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Dont exclude me aaa

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Too late

polar rose Mar 4, 2020, 5:08 PM

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bruh i just said they made me uncomfortable

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lul

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they should still be allowed to do w/e they want ofc, i was not nor did i mean to imply otherwise

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me being uncomfortable is my problem

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Don't be mean

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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don't think anyone likes being around unsupervised children Tae I'm with you on that

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Tell that to weebs

polar rose Mar 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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oh god

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I am weeb

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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To jail with you

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Oh yeah def, children who need supervision when the chaperone is gone are the real evil

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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no I'm not going

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Alright then 😔

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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police: go to jail
me an intellectual: nah

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I feel when things are heavily age-gated it makes the community even more lewd and gross because people start to feel it’s other people’s problem if they don’t like it.

polar rose Mar 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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yeah, i think things are fine as they are. simply more moderation is required.

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(for those actually under 13)

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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You also risk having the platform labeled a sex game, like with Second Life

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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It basically is

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I see so much porn, naked models and erp in public it's pathetic

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Exactly. There's also the whole social aspect to consider, as much as a stupid problem it is

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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I'm very against 18+ lobbies

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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[X] competitor might be able to get away with simply stating that while the game is obviously 13+ like any other content online there can also be 18+ lobbies where restricted streaming among other rules apply

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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then again Why are kids playing vrchat? is the question, where are their parents?

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Idk. Why are kids playing anything?

broken plover Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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everyone 18+ should be banned from vrc, aswell as anyone under 13 so its just teens vibin' with memes (jk)

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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maybe they just wanna have fun?

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isn't that crazy

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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who cares. If its a shitty kid then i ask that question, much how i ask if a shitty adult is still living with their parents

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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that people below the age of 18 wants to have fun?

indigo fern Mar 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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theyre playing to talk and have fun, same reasons why social things like gaia or habbo existed

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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thats crazy right?

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Okay im sorry i didnt mean that, nothing's wrong with stillnliving with family if ur an adult > <

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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kids should be aware that there are consequences and prohibited areas to reach

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but nah, they don't care.

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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It's wrong actually if you don't actively try to get out but that's another subject

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Mmm, it's only wrong if you're leeching IMO

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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my parents need me more than I need them. I'd say it's circumstancial

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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it all depends on context. Usually you should at least be paying rent

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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That's what i meant lin

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Mhm

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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If you are just a parasite then fuck off basically

indigo fern Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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a lot of cultures have the mindset of, you dont move out until you get married

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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LINT >~<

indigo fern Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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dirty lint lookin ass

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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My culture is "dont leave us ur supposed to be our maid"

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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😂

indigo fern Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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belly button lint

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Im fucking leaving next year fuck that lmao

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Same

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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lint is kinda a cute name

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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also lint id both gross and satisfying

indigo fern Mar 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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pocket dust

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Oh wait i already did ayyy

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Lint trap peeling

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lint vr?

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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omg cute

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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~<

molten gale Mar 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Wha

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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VRChat is perfectly safe for kids with parental supervision ngl.

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yes

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: omegalul:

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Lol wat

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Anyone who does anything that would be illegal if a child was witnessing it shouldn’t be doing it in VRChat public in the first place

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Not unless the parents have one of those memory wipers from men in black

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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we playing the same game lol

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Yes I’m simply shifting the responsibility

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@pure hemlock neuralizer

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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If you're standing on good ground then your memory wiper is right there ayy

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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@languid beacon Like walking around wearing stripper / erotic show attire? lol

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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that doesn't make it kid appropriate though

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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So hold them responsible

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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it is the parents or adults to cover their eyes and say No

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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still doesn't protect the kids by telling other people to follow the rules

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I can easily put a gore picture on your face and crash you at the same time and you won't be able to exit vrchat

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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oof

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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And the safety system won't help you either

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Parental control or not

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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yeah

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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IMO when talking about stuff like that it becomes a lot more of a parental problem anyway

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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If there’s a kid seeing a latex fetishest walking around Walmart do you blame: A.) the kid for being in Walmart B.) The fetishest for being in public or C.) Walmart

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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B and C

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Don't play vrchat of you want to be safe, simple as that

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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B

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Walmart actually has staff to remove latex fetishists

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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there's a good amount of 18+ people who shid and cum in #user-support-old when they get crashed by avatars

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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VRChat has no staff, it's the wild west

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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@languid beacon legit facts

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:43 PM

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They don't have devs either anymore

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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And how often do you run into latex fetishishsts in walmart compared to VRChat

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Something something dead game something

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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7359_Nyanyan_think

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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like the parents have a burden to help their kids grow and react better to these situations among other things

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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It's like taking your kid to the strip club not walmart

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Vrchat doesn't represent the real world thankfully

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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parents are irresponsible these days 😔

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Even if the burden is shared between them and the platform to keep kids from experiencing something shitty or doing something shitty

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:44 PM

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If you raise your kid properly he won't go on vrchat

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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not every public world is filled with nsfw stuff

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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lol

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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most people just wanna have a good time

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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False but ok

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Pretty much every world has avatars that are probably 'nsfw' and not safe for kids, even if they aren't nude lol

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@astral granite Hah. Find me a single fucking public lobby where most the avatars aren't in super skimpy clothing, or creepy lolis.

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:45 PM

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actually every public worlds is filled with e-boys and e-girls at least 1 or 2

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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aight i give up

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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most of the time their skins are mostly revealed

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Strip clubs are safe to bring your kid to too based on the arugments I am seeing here, shift the responability to the club not the parents

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Public lobbies are really random tbh

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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correct

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I guess that’s my whole point. I don’t want VRChat to be “like a strip club”

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Im like the last person wo stays in lobbies that dont have skimpy eboys and egirls but a lot more questy boys or bananas

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Too late for that

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Everyone who else - who usually complain about nsfw content being a lot more prevalent publically - leave my lobbies cuz theyre apparently boring

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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By age gating you make the platform worse. By forcing it to be age friendly you can take your lewd stuff in private and punish those who don’t

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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I agree with that Adeon. I don't want it to be that either. But it basically is.

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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blame vrchat memes for the attraction on kids, or better yet blame the youtubers that records the memes showing it to kids to attract them

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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I get that its a problem but its not that massive and world type is also critical

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The void and black cat are literally a world apart

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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It's almost like moderation in game would help

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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black cat is mostly chill

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Black cat is pretty chill most of the time tbh

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Still wouldn't bring me kids their though lol

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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yeah

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Lol yeah

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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For one thing, how would you feel about making use of and enforcing the correct categorization of nsfw content checkbox on upload and put a filter in place that won’t load it in public instances

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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F you ddid have a son or daughter and were like "hey wanna try out vrchat"

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Mommy why does that catgirl have a jiggly bulge under her skirt

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Id probably boot up a friends only world and open up a lot of quest stuff

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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lmao

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Very quest stuff like Blue's worlds

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Black Cat is normally a 12 year old filled mess now. Twice in the last few times I've been there, there were kids under 10 running around.

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@languid beacon still wouldn't matter cuz kids will still want to bypass it

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I think a nifty udon script to write in the future should be an instance MOTD

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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How do you make sure someone is tagging his avatar properly?

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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maybe add an icon in-game? dunno

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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they should just moderate public avatars

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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upon joining you get either a screenspace message(bad) or world element like a TV or billboard (good) that explains why it exists

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just find a world bigenough to put some distance between spawn and where you are and boom, thats probably mostly safe

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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The problem is the lack of moderation
Its been so carefree that people are doing whatever they want and don't care about rules

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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that is actually true, no offense.

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Not sure where the obsession that anywhere that disallows kids would immediately become some sort of orgy den though, weird jump.

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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And if you try to impose stuff now you are just going to anger a lot of people

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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it would

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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It’s a change in attitude when you know kids aren’t allowed

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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By your logic, most Friends+ instances would be that then...

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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adeon is right, the orgy jump wont come from a change in restrictions but a change in implications

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I think you're all projecting to be honest, or just weirdly fixated on it.

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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happened to second life, anyway

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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what you would get is a spotlight on "18+ acceptance" that would bring more people to the game specifically for that

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Or at least thats hat i always fucking hear every time its brought up

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cuz people are dumb

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like thats literally the only reaon why it happens. Its stupid but it will happen

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Actually with SL it's a case of Correlation does not imply Causation. Most people got bored of the platform, that simply left people using it for "other stuff".

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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never played second Life but I think that's my point

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Plus people have always liked to shit on SL so "omg it's a sex gaaamme" was just another way to do that.

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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is that how it actually went down?

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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No

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Then you have the parrots, like Lint just admitted to being, who "heard" it off someone else, then other people hear it off them.

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Before you know it, your mum definitely banged the milkman, because I heard of it off a guy down the pub so it must be true.

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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the VRChat team literally go out of their way to not even acknowledge the adult content in this game to avoid this (my assumption)

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Don't be mean

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Can you blame me? I don't think there's a better way for me to find out if I wasn't there on the platform

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Yup. That’s exactly what happened to Second Life. They had illegal issues with adult content so they addressed it with a +18 age gate. That only served to make the adult content even more prominent and eventually it became the only thing the platform was about.

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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so, vrc is fine as it is?

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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yeah my issue there summed up

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Like if i'm gonna get it wrong then i'm gonna get it wrong and learn better, you can't throw shade at me for being a parrot when literally everyone including you learns shit by getting them wrong first

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Vrc is garbage

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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no

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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the game might quite literally die. because I'd imagine they'd lose funding if there was an "adult content is being encouraged in a 13+ game" scandal

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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If you don't have a friend group or dislike all the ethot eboy, I find it hard to enjoy it

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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true

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also true

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Depends

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I played since early 2017 and was always hopping in public worlds

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i actually don't mind all the content

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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The most toxic degenerate cultures seem to have just taken over, over time

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Vrchat to me is like...its better discord lol

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Like i can talk to people on discord. Or i can get in vrchat

vocal shard Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I didn't touch the game regularly for like 6 months now

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Ymmv

astral granite Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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vrc 2017 > vrc 2020

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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vrchat to me is better than real life, cuz real life is a joke

pale timber Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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whyy udidi ebvegrurone ltjevs e me in crandok hayat

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ik ejas tkakine for 10 minjtuees

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Real life is better tbh

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I can't make an accurate comparison since I've only experienced 2019 onward

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I can make friends in rea life and I don't have to watch them erp randomly

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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well thats your perspective so i guess you are you

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I cant rank physical interaction against virtual interaction

twin fractal Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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why not dancecat

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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People throw respect for other peoples comfort and boundaries out the window completely in VR

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If you aren't lewd you aren't cool

pale timber Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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iantkiene pgsyycial annd virituwl interaction

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I cant spend more than 50% of my time either outside or online

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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must be seeing the wrong folks

pale timber Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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ikn wndojrnt lnow e ehwyts ikrnjaythitn ios

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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So many friend groups I've tried to join you basically get pushed out if you aren't lewding everyone

pale timber Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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fndnant fkeprnt sny ytikene by iskusuelf

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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rin what the heck are you talking about

pale timber Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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ikwjgone ehgavign firjeds

faint skiff Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Really? I find desktop users the worst, they don't even take into consideration that they're stood in front of, or IN someone else a lot of the time.

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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like

pale timber Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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i iwuwh i ihad sthose

pure hemlock Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Rin is having a stroke I apologize for his behavior

desert stratus Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I like both online time and offline time rqually

languid beacon Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Just use personal space checkbox

slate verge Mar 4, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@faint skiff in public probably, but not when introducing a friend specifically