#vrchat-general-2
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everybodys awful these days
Huh?
We truly live in a society
No one is mocking you. The fact is just that avatar creation is a little game content development task, so it is not easy. The things on VRChat website are the right ones, but if you made a mistake in it, it won't work - it is as unforgiving as if you do stuff to make a game and screw up. @turbid lotus
you dont listen do you.. you ask the same questions every week hows your job are you having any negative thoughts all i have are negative thoughts but you dont listen anyway
jk im just spelling joker quotes
but yea i under stand
thanks
I am at university, doing my best to check the chat every now and the, so if I write BS, I am sorry.
nah its okay
yea ive tried everything it just wint work idk
is there a way to publish your model without going to the control panel
Weird. Maybe a server issue. Yesterday there was a wave of server issue questions from the community.
I had a look on screen share and I can confirm he isn't doing anything wrong and the control panel just won't appear and doesn't even have any errors
@turbid lotus Nope. When it not works, you are screwed. @deft girder That is weird.
uhh so i guess i cant get my joker skin
Have you got another computer available to try it there?
no
@deft girder did you make him create a new project with only the sdk in it?
The project only had the sdk in it
Hmm... Idk what breaks it, but it is a little lotery, how stable VRChat and the SDK will be on a computer. There are some things that break it, but we don't know them.
Contact the support then
Good luck
If something is broken with the SDK it should atleast throw a error
ok
This is more a case of the window not appearing for whatever reason
Never ran into it before on anyone
mabye i draged it off my screen
how do i use the monster hunter avatars on pc mode?
For example some people say, that Voicemeeter is destabilizing their game, but I have it and nothing. Even got it set as input!
I just tested the window should always spawn inside of screen bounds even if it was closed outside of the bounds
;-;
@clear trout You mean the animation overrides - gestures?
so i guess ill never get my joker skin then thats annyoing
Honestly might wanna contact support on this issue and describe it in the ticket
Stop pinging him
He'll answer when he can if he needs help
Ok. Stop lecturing me! I just want to show I have not ignored him, because I was talking someone else when he asked.
You mean you want to find the avatar?
yea
Idk any avatar worlds with Monster hunter avatars. Would try to find some if I wasn't at the university at the moment.
Btw did you know, that you can activate the expression gestures on PC? Just hold L or R shift to select hand and then select gesure(s) by pressing F1 to F8.
@devout berry can you mabye send the the drect links so i just hit download mabye i am doing somthing wrong
Which links? From the site?
I'll lecture you anytime I want boyo
Most of the usual people around here can't stand you so maybe try to evaluate how you act with others before getting pissy
@clear trout Screw the school! Try looking at the top 3 of this query: https://vrchat.com/home/search/Monster hunter
Yeah, I chat even at the lectures.
is there a way to see how close you are to becoming the next "rank" of user? (like visitor -> new user etc)?
that probably makes no sense, that question
Nope. It is invisible by design of the system.
If you saw the points, you could write down what affect them how and abuse it.
You will not be able to make content forever. + it is harder to recover from crasher avatar.
i see why a vrc account is better, but everyone knows me/has me added on my steam account
Merge them!
you guys think the 2018 update will be a miracle and the dev team will fix most of the common exploits with it? that would be cool
is that possible?
Yep.
how do you do that? i'll do it when i get back
@vocal shard you literally have an "upgrade account" button in your settings tab
hello
and that explains the whole process of making a vrc account and merging it with your steam account
really? i don't check settings except that one time i turned off personal space
well you should
just an fiy. once you merge and you dont see your friends transferred right away, it can take up to an hour to get all transferred so dont panic
@hollow sluice It'll fix the exploits for about a week probably, then back to fun-time screen-rape avatar-switch land.
The 2018 will break modded clients for a few weeks
Obnoxious avatars will still be a thing
honestly I am fine with them coming back if the dev team at least shows us that hey care and did something about it
but i doubt they will break because of the dev team doing something about it
When they break self crasher injection, I expect comback of crasher avatars, that crash you by looking at it.
it will just be because of the unity incompatibility
well crasher avatars are not that hard to avoid
The self crash is an API request
Unity 2018 won't fix that
Well, if they're "normal" and the crasher is an emote, they will work first x times.
Remember that crasher in Jamie's video? That one had it as animation override in eyes.
Question: How do I report an avatar if I have it fav'd?
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Easily - just get name and creator from the about page.
Do you, like, not play vrc?
You cant so that to yourself
Isn't there an ID in the logs?
You can do a manual report, but not the in-game report button
Unless someone has the API spec for reporting
Then you can do it like the in-game report button
log in on vrchat.com , avatars ,click the profile picture of it you get the avtr_uuid in the url link , report that
Oo
you can then just check the log for the same uuid to figure out who
Right I forgot that's a thing now
@odd blaze Thank you very much
Oh yeah, that's a thing
Completely forgot about it
second
good morning lads
Morning?
yeah right.... where are you from?
It's like 1pm, wdym morning
7am gang
i'm from buenos aires argentina
we share timezone with gringos
...at least some of them
au...australia
N1ce*
π
I'm so excited! Can't wait to go home and play
its addictive π but incredibly fun
i have been ambushed by work but all i can think of is getting this work done and logging on lol
get used to 20 fps if youre in a public world
Well I currently have a quest so it can't be worse than that π
The cable for oculus link is arriving today!
hallo
yes it can
it will be worse in performance. But you will see peoples avatars at least
deppends on your pc
Eyoooo
and its gonna be worse because the quest can handle way more than the game throws at it. They enforced high limits to make sure the performance is consistent. But on pc theres no such thing. Good luck trying to find out which person in the lobby is that one guy with a 2 million poly avatar thats destroying your framerate
Gaming laptops 
Gaming laptops Drake nah
Workstations capable of running games Drake ye
gaming laptop just means you payed high end pricetags for entry lvl hardware or INSANE pricetags for high end hardware just because compact factor
Tbh Razer Blades are worth it
If I get a laptop I want something ultra portable, high end which can run games just fine and the Blades are just that
but the price
I'll be traveling a ton this year and in 2021 so a laptop would be worth it for me
It depends on the person
yeah very true
gaming laptops are not bad. But its definitely nothing to brag about
I dont see the point of having a high end laptop while having a desktop as well. Just have something that can do your daily drive things and be portable
They're worth it for people who have a need for them but if you just game at home/don't travel much it isn't worth it
which phones are replacing now for most of the things I need a laptop to do for me
Ill get a Ryzen 9/2080 rig next year and a blade 15 with 2060 for the go (or whatever is current by that time) because I wanna game on the go and for content creation stuff (that's why next year: I don't have the money currently and idk if I'll keep doing content creation so I got enough time to see if it's something I'll continue doing)
And I don't think a phone can replace a laptop running after effects, premiere and 3d applications yet π
like I said
a phone can do all I need from a on the go device nowadays
as long as its snappy I am fine
Same for the most part
butyeah I am broke because of vr
Welp we're arriving in a few so I gtg :c so cyaaaa later
wich version of unity do u guys reccomend for making avatars (That works and will publish)
I donβt have room for a full PC. Laptop plus oculus link will be perfect for what I need. Iβm only looking to do social VR.
Don't underestimate how unpleasant low performance feels in vr
Yeah, I have a quest already π It crashes so much
The laptop I got has more power than the recommended stats
In general or?
I'm also a complete n00b when it comes to this
I've never had a gaming pc at all
π
I'll report back on how it works
@vocal shard also read the rules
ayyup, ive been on and off with this discord, i will try to stay this time
Hello. I'm new
Are you?
I'm Aoi
Vsauce music
Yep.
hi new i'm rin
I'm new Trance π
So seems there an avatar stealer on the loose right now in VRChat already stolen few streamers models already
Proof?
no proof no talk
Without proof it's just rumors and false info
And that's against the sacred rules so it will require the removal of the knee caps
afaik most gangs will basically disown you if you actually steal custom models
Nothing seems to be as it is anyway
i got one kneecap removed
Proof go check Sean twitter
Don't shill, thanks
Gosh I hope the cable I bought works. π¦
avatar stealing is a given anywa6
like its a popular video game and model ripping is one of the first professions
Didn't you check compatibility before buying them?
next to masonry, prostitution, and hunting
No it's not your just stealing people hard work (custom models)
Of course I did... but USB's are complicated!
And what do you think they can do about it?
And finding a cord that works is tricky, according to YouTube reviews
Its not like the avatar files have to be downloaded to get rendered what means they always have acess to it...
Ow wait, they do.
Sure, they can write a full engine without anything in it at all without any support at all.
No devaintart (just pure scratch)
Then don't upload it
Move vrchat to stadia. No more local copies of files c:
Would just take some years to make and we would only have to wait for them to redevelop everything in the game so thats like a good 4 more years
@mighty nest I too enjoy non functioning products
As soon as somebody download your model, it's over
He can just rip it
Fix one thing, break everything else yah
You want to be truly safe? Don't fucking upload it online
forbidden topic
Here's the short cord I got.... longer one arrives tomorrow
I'm 99% sure it's gonna work for the link
monoprice has usb c cables for half that price.
all about keeping the ego busy...
It needs to have data transfer also I'm impatient.
Due to how current graphics cards function it's practically impossible to prevent ripping. Preventing extraction maybe but we're using unity so that's a far cry as well.
@uncut trail I like how you say "go check Sean twitter" like anyone knows who the fuck Sean is.
@eager wyvern What CPU and GPU in that laptop out of interest?
what, you don't know Sean? Everybody knows Sean. It's Sean, you know.
The one and only.
Probably Sean Murray since he is a hack too.
@faint skiff https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000A-05HR8
Thats the laptop, unsure about GPU
The GPU is good but the CPU is rather weak which will be a problem for VRChat.
Whatβs good cpu?
not a laptop cpu sadly
π well I kinda knew that
That mobile i7 is rated slightly slower than the enthusiast desktop i5 processor
idk vrc requirements but take a look at mobile benchmarks
are you ready
for?
this
I was wondering if you had an extra heart. Because mine was just stolen.
i got bored so...
Oh, I'm sorry
just wait until you can be bored at work
great well three more years then work "yay"
Oh yeah, it's great
that laptop is fine for vrchat
You are an actual queen
am i?
In my eyes
π thank you
oh no don't be sad, i can easily read specs and determined them
π
30 minutes until I can leave!

wew
tfw you buy vive from friend but both the USB cables for the controller chargers have been chewed to death by cats and all cables but one that you have are too big to fit in the controllers
scammed
@tacit crystal controller chargers uses micro usb cable, ones that charges androids and ps4 controllers
you can get a pack that comes with 5 cables on amazon
i was ripped off too when i bought my vive from someone and had to do that
Yeeeah, I have a terrible lack of those cables considering I actually have a PS4 and two controllers for it
I only have 2 and one of them is just way too thicc to fit
I just noticed how much notifications I get from here.
Well, that's great!
It worked right away!
hi have a question, how long do you have to play Vrchat to get your trust level up?
, from visitor to
new user?
There is no number
it's not time based
ok
Its not just play time
Meet people and get lucky enough for them to friend you
Its not just play time
@vocal shard I'll do it
π
@eager wyvern 
Who cares about a meaningless rank just play the game
Hi atlas
Who are you
for the love of god why does vrchat allow somebody else to change my avatar
@worldly summit They do not allow it normally - the user spoofs the action to look like you did it and feeds it straight to the API trough modded client.
shouldnt there be basic authentication for that? Heck you can even check if the request comes from the correct ip
a simple auth ttoken shouldnt be hard
:/
The only auth that raw API needs to acknowledge actions is an API key and that can be pulled from legit client when you know how.
/end rant
There for sure should be. Just like with how most other stuff works. But it doesnt so
Gotta wait untill 2018 version gets released (next update) and then wait for them to fix it
Its only been really bad for a month
"Only!" π€£
Well when i started out we had worse stuff that also only took a month to get fixed π
More than enough to p*ss people totally off!
a month? it's been longer than that
Worse? What was it?
The problem on its own has been there for ages.
Its been really rampent the past month tho
Hackers becoming mods and sending bans?
it has only gotten worse since december
@devout berry World shaders, but no safety system, panic mode or any way to fight against it.
All you could do was wait or reboot the game
The avatar clone client went got publically leaked about a week ago I heard thus why it's been getting a lot worse
Oh this! Saw few YT vids. Nasty stuff!
Was real fun
Happened for a few weeks before it happened like daily
Then it took a week or two before they made panic mode
Oh yeah? Exceptionally when you were a streamer and they put up gore or NSFW stuff over all of your vision!
im already glad that i can disable particles and shaders
So stuff like this is really just annoying and not world ending like its for most for me by now
There's actually quite a few avatars spreading around now that bypass a lot of safety settings sadly. It allows them to use custom animations and thus anything you can trigger with custom animations.
Twitch and YT have been having ban slaughterhouse because of that!
i disabled everything except for friends
Hey! Thats one of the complaints people had when it first got released Yin
The only way to prevent the forced bypass of safety settings is to disable their avatar completely
Was in a world last night and a friend of a friend was showing off some of his crasher and annoying avatars that bypass safety settings and I wanted to kill myself
oh god
He got blocked I didn't even give af he was a friend of a friend
Should have reported π
Someone changed my avatar to one that crashes my game immediately and plays a loop of maniacal laughter.
I can't seem to do anything about it.
You use a VRChat account?
Yeah. Am I able to fix it from that?
Easier atleast, Log into the website, go to the avatar tab and reset it there
Right on. Thanks for the help.
Yup, that WAS easy.
The avatar that was forced on me was total offensive nonsense.
was the avatar picture say "zephoriah" with a russian name?
Hi
It's not the same account
Dats not an insult
hello
no
...

What are playlists?
y
Iβm lagging for some reason
I have ranks for everything
Desktop peasants, upper body casuals, full body gods, and for models microwave ripping, take and bake vrcadmins, google tutorial copy pasta from scratch,
is there any way to tell which world instances have friends in them?? I want to avoid my friends
By uninstalling vrchat, cause you be making new ones
Why would you want to...
I'm antisocial and I think it'd be rude to randomly join my friends
Well go to a public world none goes there
Most of my friends go in public worlds
@sonic lynx bruh I wish my friends were like that
All mine just go into privateβs to do the cringey stuff
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I've been having some issues with VRChat on WMR. Two of those are: after a certain time, my right controller will stop being able to move in certain directions and use certain gestures, and if I open the SteamVR menu my FPS will drop
my game also lags after i open steamvr so i think thats on valve's end
@vocal shard 1) Broken controller / inputs are broken
2) reinstall SteamVR
I've reinstalled SteamVR and I think the controller has worked fine in other games. I'll try it again soon
I remember when my controllers didnβt work properly
But then someone told me how to fix it
I had to blow my controllers(this isnβt a lie) and it worked
VRChat has had an ongoing fun time with SteamVR where there's a chance opening the dashboard will cause FPS to drop horrifically. Subsampling a little bit often 'fixes' it.
@hollow breach blow then how?
Probably won't work for me then guessing it's through a port
Seems as if it is broken
Has anyone else seen this B.S. report that VRC is shutting down?
Yeah people keep spreading that around
It better not be. I bought more RAM just for this game
It's not
Freaking jerks
I mean itβs obviously fake , I just didnβt know if anyone made the devs aware so they could make an official statement saying itβs b.s
They probably figure it's fake enough it's easy to tell it's not real. Lol
Oh itβs so obviously bogus, but it is spreading throughout the content creators discord servers and unfortunately some people are defaulting into panic mode

cool rumor say dynamic bone is coming to quest
Gotta love rumors, I get them all the time lol
The amount of times Iβve seen people discuss the whole βVRC Shutdown imageβ really gets me scared how fast things spread
I've yet to see it
Sometimes we jump to a wrong conclusion because we are looking for it.
Sometimes, people are also very gullible
So I heard VRChat is massively banning people who use mod clients like VRCTools?
Any mods, yeah.
Any third-party clients or things that modify the game code is bannable, yes
This has been stated for a long time now
No editing the source code or youβre a bad boy / girl
bad girls and boys loose their accounts and avatars
and trust ranks
But I'm not crashing people Jamie!!!
I'm just protecting myself by using a modded client
The devs should ban the real hackers and not normal players like me
Doesn't matter anyway, dead game lmao π π
ok doomer
IM COOMING
side note, i like how people are blatantly using projekt melody rips
Yo desti, You weren't around when the CPU fryer was spreading around?
apparently people will get sued if their caught with their model @indigo fern
In like 6h there were some many people panicking in this discord
Honestly I just wish the client interactions didnβt affect other clients
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i just got in here and woah, what happened?
With?
i read cpu fryer
oh oof
mhm
Dumb kids spread that rumor
Memes
Took only 6hours for people to start asking about it all the time in the discord
Fun times
mobo fryer
I cAn bR3ak y0ur internetz router permanently. Haha lolz
I'll fry your monitor by flashing lot of colors
router LOL
Okay, just unscrew your heatsink pls
tbh my computer is laggy as hecc so i wouldn't be surprised if it got fried by one flashy character
lmao
Apparently some new amd GPUs had slightly loose heatsinks
I was in a map today where everyone decided to use avatars with crashy animations
then everyone copied their avatars and did it too
o h n o
I l o v e 2 f p s
love when it gets to the point when even openvr is like βVRChat Loadingβ
I got booters connected to my shell botnet, hella booters
Man, too bad that all the cpu friers got removed, they were faster than any other deep fryer that I have owned, worked with any kind of oil and the thermal paste gave the fries a very intresting taste..
hey that rhymed
i hate it when he rhymes
Can someone help me with my game crashing
let me guess, you load in and hear laughing then you crash?
I donβt hear laughing. Itβs just crashing super bad. Some guy was showing his cat avatar and I just started crashing bad
I tried everything but it isnβt working
ctrl + \
if you have a vrchat account then go on the VRChat website - login - click avatars on the left - then click reset the default avatar
I did and I still have an issue
At this point Iβm so annoyed I donβt even want to play anymore
Do you spawn in your home map or some other? There was a case, that somehow forced user to go straight to their world, that forced on a crasher on spawn. The bad thing is, that it was somehow tied to their ID and no resets worked.
Then contact support
Really, those hackers would deserve a nice deep brain fry! But that would need microwave based VR.
soa vibes
?
At least someone gets my references. @jade charm
@red grove try using another account
That November 2022 was also one.
@devout berry can i get one microsoft ban please
???
12/31/9999
Oof I just saw the comments
Try using another account on VRC
If you change your VRChat name does your login name stay the same as your old one or does it get updated to the new one sooner or later?
stays the same
Im literally tired of someone has a client and changing us avatars
But it doesnt effect on quest vr
o . O a person able to change your avatars if you're a PC user? O . o
Y e s
Sounds like a weird torture room.
Its really annoying tho
Im also using quest vr but in PC version no wires. If I use wires, sometime vr frame drop but not the computer cause it doesnt drop at all.
Thats impossible to know who has it
Welp could always take your friends with you to a new friends+ room and if it keeps happening you know it's one of your friends or one of their friends, then you try a just friends room and if it still happens, it just means time to cull the flock.
And you can't kick them even if you know who it is
you can if the vote goes through to everyone if everyone else votes.
No you can't.
then I guess VR Chat should remove vote to kick.
Thats a bad idea
oh boy the security really is as bad as I've been told xD
Welp it's Early Access for a reason then lol
In other news, enjoying VRC so far. Pretty fun, better than the other two platforms I've hung out on.
its been "early access" for how long now? pretty long? and they dont have basic security?
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How does Discord pull the current world you're in from VRC even if you're in private?
My Discord tells me that a friend is currently in private, but it writes the name of the world and the time he has spent in it
Thats not a base VRC thing so your friend uses a client π
Oof report him for a sweet sweet ban
Why
Could just be checking the vrchat website as well to get the name of the world your in
That tells you regardless of if it's a private world or not
Also what you were talking about had nothing to do with vrchat and was discord so no reason to ban him either
Discords rich pressense isnt supported by default
Only way to do so means your running extra stuff π€·ββοΈ
Even if it just uses the api stuff the website does, depending how they did it they can get clapped
Also hey soul
You're
you're
Bruh...
Brother
Bruder... 
Bruh is short for Bruhemian Rhapsody
Rich presence not supported? That makes me less worried my Discord will say "online in Lets just H private"
Just read a wall of text in #user-support-old. About the whining, it is a pretty normal praxis, that it is forbidden to discuss game bans on the game's Discord under a Discord ban threat. If it feds up people, that the bans are discussed, just forbid it by server rules.
It is not. I am pointing out, that if it starts to be nuisance for the community, it could be a cure. @umbral reef
Pretty sure communicating more helps
Forcing users to talk behind the devs back, muster more hated but unvoiced is a good way to lose users and get a disconnect between the userbase and dev team
Rampa you're so naive
Fun fact: From what I saw until now, only Ruubick ever joined convos.
Your suggestions could work in a perfect world, but it's not the case
Yeah, we can only dream.
Yeah ruubick helps people with stuff all the time, the rest chime in once in a while saying that everything is fine
But since the beta I'm assuming they're all super busy
But it's still annoying to receive 0 communication
such is the way of vrchat
@faint skiff don't focus so much on making vrc content, focus on making content
@devout berry Ruubick is quality assurance, it's basically part of his job to find issues so it ties in there.
announce stuff
dont follow up
don't let the community know what's going on
it feels more rewarding to learn it and apply it elsewhere honestly
since you can pretty much throw your worlds into any unity game with a few tweaks
I don't use anything else Unity based and I don't intend to make any games. It's fine, I'm being at least slightly creative elsewhere.
There's plenty of upcoming social vr games on unity at least
Lavender is DoA. HiFi shut down. Sansar is basically dead and is disliked by most of it's userbase by this point (and they've sacked all the staff anyway)...
Project athena is a fork of hifi, chillout vr I'm yet to check out but it seems like they have a proper sdk, helios is on unreal but still
Lavander.. well.. yeah
If they will finish the unfinished desktop mode on neos, I'll definitely try it.
Still waiting for s&box but there haven't been news in a while
Meh, I'll go to a platform that feels good and has content
Will drag a few friends over as well
The problem with the HiFi forks is that they're all unofficial, there's a bunch of them and that it's all a bit of a mess. I'm not sure they'd ever really turn into anything.
Any FOSS alternative if everything goes worng, that you would recommended? @pseudo basalt
Well, I don't know much about hifi other than it didn't feel as good as vrc
No, we're screwed
Also yeah, if it's open source and there's lots of forks then it'll end up being a super fragmented community
Exactly, 50 crap ones rather than 1 good one.
But eventually one should take over the majority
crypto comes to mind
@pseudo basalt You should try out Neos at some point, although they're redoing the UI at the moment which is still the "hacked together as we went along" technical design which sometimes scares people away. It's being redone to be much nicer though.
@pseudo basalt Make your own fork according to your tastes! That's the beauty of FOSS!
Yea, that really helped the crypto market... oh wait
something is wrong with vrc
Yeah
@faint skiff eventually
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@devout berry waste of time when a game like this lives and dies in it's community
anyone got any idea whats happening?
RIP VRC
DDoser
big RIP
Love how people immedeately assume its a ddos
oh boy time to move to another discord
Yeah
works now
what happened
wouldn't be surprised if it is honestly
I doubt
Midweek with barely anyone on wouldnt be worth it
Could always be a catgirl eating the power cable.
I'm sad, lemme just flip the switch
So if this is a ddos
and read vrc discord
the person behind it is just an idiot
keep logging in to black screen
me too @light maple
Can't even play keep getting logged out
i can't even see the "go" button
@pseudo basalt What you mean hiding
Chats lovely and not repeating the same exact thing every 2 msgs π
π
is it allowed to say something not related to vrchat at all?
no
okay
only in #general-media
login to the website and reset your avatar v @vocal shard
Could I be directed or assisted in Video playing for VRChat? I'm in my own instance that is setup to play a video. I thought it was just a simple copy and paste URL into the bar which then loads the video but nothing happens.
it should just play but sometimes it doesnt work for some reason. I think clearing the cache fixes issues with the video player
How would I do that? I'm not the room creator.
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
So the video player won't play YT videos that I've bought..
@feral sinew it wonβt play youtube videos you own on your youtube account?
No meaning like I bought videos from Youtube Movies they won't play those
but if I put a regular link to a video from youtube it's no problem
Yeah, itβs because the player only can play public videos
@umbral reef good point, the appeal process hadnt even crossed my mind.
There needs to be a more linear moderation system in VRChat
wut moderation
Uploading copyright material and getting banned for it is pretty linear. Unfortunately the uploaders knowledge of the material does not matter.
@meager rose about the projekt melody ... she bought it from the creator of the model( digitrevx)
Sure, getting banned for that is reasonable. But for 4 years?
While a functionally permanent ban might be a bit too much if you don't know..
Yeah the time is extreme that's true
It makes me question where the priorities of the moderation lies
Is a bit too much, but maybe you can appeal it and not be told "fuck you" by vrpill
Well copyright is probably too priority as that is a legitimate threat to vrc as a whole
If it is for upload, why they ban whole game? They could just temporarily cut your SDK access.
it's not 4 years
Plus, isnβt VRChat technically open source?
Nope.
it's a perma ban
No lol
I mean youβre able to upload content to it right
nope vrc is closed source
so ?
I'm back!
I feel like a month ban and a warning for future uploads would be a more suitable punishment for a copyright related ban
Want open source? Try one of those early alpha FOSS clones.
the old original vrc 5-6 years ago is open source and now deprecated
If thereβs such a concern over copyrighted content then why hasnβt Big Al gotten banned yet
Thereβs a real question
Because nobody complained
because big al has permission to all songs he parodies
Do you now, how the DMCA takedowns work? @mystic carbon
I think they meant big al's avatar corridors
π
The owner has to file it - it is not as YT's infamous content match.
If the copyright holders would target vrc, his world would be taken down
Yes Iβm aware, Iβm just trying to point out the hypocrisy in permanent bans over this vtuber avatar
But big companies don't care as much
It's not hypocrisy at all, it's a reactive measure
Hmm
you can choose hundreds of avatars to use
Pretty much all of us technically could get dmca'd unless we make our own avatars
and you decide to use a ripped model made for a specific person
you deserve the ban at that point
Well I think their point was that the people who got banned didn't know that
Exactly
But as others pointed out, not knowing the laws doesn't make you immune to them
Not sure, but if they want, they even can claim avatars for looking similar don't they?
Yeah but you can counter if you have proof of creation
"didn't know"
yeah sure.
And they will say, you ripped the base and changed data.

Only if you did not have proof of creation. I'm talking old saves of half made shit and whatnot
Then you are technically save.
Also, youtube, with it's broken copyright system, does the same (but more extreme)
@vocal shard I was the same when I started out. As soon as I saw an avatar I automatically thought βI like that avatar, Iβm gonna upload it!β
People upload music and are fine until it gets DMCA'd
guys i heard vrchat closing π±
That would be a better moderation system than what we have now
It's only one strike lol
strike me daddy
yeah it's closing
dain strike me
Itβs not closing lmao

Wait vrchat is closing?
I'll strike you 3 times then you get clapped 
yeah
yeah tomorrow
Why
because it's garbage
Where did you get that? Cannot find anything on the web.
So is every other online game in 2020 though
I request proof!
don't insult club penguin
NeosVR hit us with the copyright claim
you have proof that it's not closing ? checkmate
innocent until proven guilty, or as us Canadians like to say, right bud
yeah but you are weirdos so it doesn't count
oh boy who is closing π³
but i like you
I'm open
for me?
π
I'm open
hi open,
im bahka
the shutdown image is fake. if you would've checked their socials you would know.
I just did that!
you are fake
wait omg vrchat is closing that's so sad :((
:///

socials are outdated
https://twitter.com/VRChat See anything there?! NOPE! We've got some premium fake news here!
vrchat team don't communicate so that twitter is unreliable
I'm selling my VR. useless now π
If it was someone from the team saying this, I would trust that, but until now I heard it from just normal users!
the fact the image says it's next month and nothing from vrc makes it obvious enough imo
like you said, that's your opinion
rip vrchat π
It was fun will it lasted
hmm hey alright
Find someone that will use it then lol.
Pc master race desu.
i want to start playing again but i have literally no motivation
like how i have no motivation to
same and now it's closing
π
only VR users can access my premium content 
π€
can i access
yes u are exception
what's the premium content like
it wouldn't be premium if I let anyone see 
feet pics probably
but i'm VR therefor i have access no? π
i get daily feet pics from dain
ποΈ
wait who's taking those?? 
uh
I'll use my vr to get the content and be a true robinhood (men in tights version) and share it to the masses.
a subscription fee of 111$ per month in NeosVR ? Are they realy that good that i want to pay them sooooo much?
Eh? Source?
Neos Commercial Subscription
Updating
Neos Pro Monthly Subscription
Renews every month . Next charge: $111.00 on 20 Mar. 2020
Neos Pro Subscription for institutions and/or commercial use, valid for one VR station. Leverage the full capabilities of Neos for collaboration, presenting, education, science and beyond. Enables additional business oriented features like central account and content management, local asset server and custom launch sequence. Supports further development of Neos metaverse engine.
source: NeosVRs Website
why don't they close already?
__ institutions and/or commercial use__
That's not what the average player falls into
i can read that sasha
Enables additional business oriented features like central account and content management, local asset server and custom launch sequence.
i also can read that
Are they realy that good that i want to pay them sooooo much?
Maybe ask yourself if you even need that first
you are not answering my question

Whether or not you want to pay that much depends entirely on whether you even need such features to begin with
its not about me

stop making it about me
Are they realy that good that >>i<< want to pay them sooooo much?

You're the one that is concentrated on that specific part of the update.
Besides, this isn't really related to VRChat so should be continued in #general-media or #gaming
bravo people π
Sup.
proud of you guys

That amount is quite low for institutional/commercial settings, actually.
Besides, its none of your business (literally you arent a buisness) so why do you care.
that is incredibly low for commercial purposes. And that too, why are you asking? You're a consumer, not a business, of course you don't need it
you do not know anything about me, stop assuming things about me. This was intended to spark a conversation about NeosVR. If you guys have to make it personal like this, i do not want even talk to you than.
I asked why do you care, thats a conversation.
and i have intention to answer that question BlueAsis
Ok the floor is yours.
tada
man clown college has really been pumping out these graduates recently
heres my clown identification papers π§»
Seems to check out, Welcome aboard!
didnt need em for you, its like asking a senior for their id if theyre old enough 
π
Pretty much all commercial licenses for games are more expensive than regular ones
Regardless if it offers anything special
Does anyone know where i could find a Toad(from mario) Avatar? I have a good toad impression, so i want the avatar to go with the impression
Nvm i found one
I can't wait to get VR, do only specific VR headsets and controllers work...?
Basically anything that can run on the steamvr or oculus client works. So basically any decent PC VR system. Phone VR systems won't really work
So the 250$ oculus rift headset will work good
which one?
uhh...
Used or new?
A used oculus rift would work. A new Oculus go would not. (Similar price point and can be confusing. That's why specifying)
Their site is broken for me....
@iron pine Look into getting a rift S as a starting point
rule 1 of vr: never buy an oculus go
rule 2 of vr: only buy a vive cosmos if it's 50 dollars and your only option
rule 3 of vr: your IPD (the distance between your pupils) is extremely important
so, protip right?
- christmas made every headset sold out till next year
- half-life alyx made every headset sold out till the next decade
- coronavirus made every headset sold out till the next millenium
And the HTC VIVE is oficially discountinued
Yeah the rift S is good. Sadly most VR systems are sold out right now. A combination of half life Alyx hype, and the virus in China halting production
my OG vive is a collectors item π
I want so bad a Deluxe Audio Strap
There is none in Stock in EU
They might have stopped making them
Aw⦠shit...
Since the og Vive isn't made anymore
The pro and cosmos have their own straps
Welp, that's true
I might try and get a Oculus off ebay
theres some being sold for like 200$.... i just gotta hope they aren't scams
Rift CV1?
Those are probably the original rift CV1. A bit older model
Still good
That isnt a scam⦠but CV1 breaks with only touching it
Had 2 CV1s, same broke with the same problem
Also the Audio Issue in Rift CV1, which happens to everyone because it is a error design
I would recommend you getting a HTC Vive or a Rift S
Audio issue (flex cable contact issue) might be a common issue, but that is far from "everyone"
More than 50% for sure
Nah.
Nah really, my group of friends who had CV1, we were like 11-12... so only 2-3 didn't have the audio issue
ah
because the product it self is linked by it's product number
rating's arent based on individual sellers (on the good pages)
but on the goods.
oh...
Is there any 200-300$ VR headset thats decent and I could buy off a actual site or...?
Apparently there is a way to get the bhaptics vest working in vrchat. Guess i gotta get one now
i should send this in #general-media but welp here ya go @iron pine
They're on sale for $230 new from Microsoft.com
@iron pine Recommend just buying a new oculus S
Now i have a Dilemma
Just i go to the Deluxe Audio Strap
or save and go to the Index?
I mean, it's really worth it coming from Vive?
I dont like original Vive Strap, it's small for me (yeah, i have a big head thou :c
Yes. A million times yes. Even the rift S is worth it coming from the Vive. Comparing new VR to older headsets is really a big jump visually
im that odd guy that prefers comfort over visually
index is my next jump, going from og vive to index
hopefully there's a very big significant change in quality
so i don't know if i should stay with my vive and do a little jump with the DAS or just save, sell the VIVE and go Index
It's Index comfort similar to Vive with DAS right?
I have a 200$ commission coming up for an avatar, so that could potentially go towards my index.
The index is one of the more comfortable headsets. Some say it's the most
The og Vive without das really is one of the least comfortable

what to do... what to do...
I'm gonna be working on a bunch of unity tools for the community to use.
Free of charge cause I'm cool.
The specs alone between the two don't do things justice, because the difference technology and how it's used makes things better than just head to head paper comparisons
Would there be any interest in an easy prop tool for avatars?
Allowing for easy adding of prop models as animations to avatars.
you just tweak the finger positions, etc.
I mean... most of the time i am using VR is for VRChat; I almost have 2000 hours⦠so updating to a Index would be very expensive⦠that's why im thinking getting only the DAS
The OG Vive has 2.5 million subpixels per eye. The index has 6.9 million per eye
(Vive pro is 4.6m and rift S is 5.5m)
Yes, i know the specs are different; that it has better FOV and clarity, but⦠i dont know what to do
SDE is not a thing I really care, also
Index comfort is better than the Vive+DAS by a long shot
For me the biggest thing that makes the Index so comfortable are the earspeakers. Having nothing on or in my ears for several hours helps a lot
Just what i needed to heard
are there any other beat related games in Vr chat besides beatsaber
Yeah they are like hovering your ear, but that wouldn't be too loud?
Their max volume can be pretty loud, but just turn them down.
I mean, ||that would be dangerous for Enterprise Resource P*lanning|||
In terms of sound leakage, you have to get right close to them to make out audio detail, and even at high volumes if you're not in the same room what's left doesn't carry far.
So it is really better than the DAS?
Hell yes.
Audio quality is easily the absolute best of any HMD I've used ever.
I remember when i visited my friend, when she was trying to move out. I was here helping them moving box and stuff
She showed me the Index, i holded it with my hands. But couldnt test it because it wasnt connected T_T
I tried to see if i could do financing... but i'm not 21 yet.... I turn 21 in 3 days..... XD
Financing smal things no good.
Only buy things you actually have the money for. 
additionally
if you have 2,000 hours in this game and plan on spending more, i dont see why you wouldnt invest in really high quality VR at that point
Because⦠i'm just a Student, i have 20years and i don't have any incomes :c
I have some savings
So that's why im thinking in buying DAS; or just save more, sell VIVE and get the Index in this Christmas because who knows when it's back at Stock xD
this fucker goes around forcing you to put on an avatar that crashes you when you load it
@little rampart please do not call out users here, instead open a moderation ticket and include a detailed description and include any prove you got
just gives them attention they want
Blocking them will also not really help so
Post it on Twitter to warn people

Is VRChat closing on March 27, 2020?
no
someone posted in another discord that VRChat ran out of funding and that is why they are closing, but that is why I am asking here.
Yeah, that's a hoax that's been spread around like crazy
mmmm hoaxberries
didn't they just get some more funding recently? Like within the last year?
Glad Iβm in here. Someone in my server started asking and I just hopped in here to check if anything was happening and let them know itβs not real.
It's a hoax that i think pops up from time to time
I'm pretty sure I've seen it a while back
Hey folks. I need help. So, I was in a server, this guy wearing an irwin thanos skin crashed me. Now my game lags to hell, and crashes within a few minutes of me playing. And any time I go to my avatar screen, the entire game starts stuttering till it crashes and I can only see Ugandan knuckles in the background.
Tried deleting cache to no avail. Logged in and out. Restarted computer. Nothing works
sounds like you probably got forced into an avatar that's crashing you - if you have time when you log in you can hit ctrl + \ to switch to a default, or you can log into the website and find the button the reset your avatar to the default
@hollow forge Go to the website and reset avatar.
can i have some help by someone that knows alot about unity
please
its not with a modle just a bug that keeps happening
im able to make modles and i was ableto upload now its greyed out and cant....
has happen to 10 unity projects now and cant use em
Happened to me too today, some guy set my avatar to one that would display an image on my screen, loop a laughing sound effect and ultimately crash my game around 15-20 seconds (according to log files) after loading in my home world
@worthy narwhal reset your avatar via the website
I've done so
did that fix it?
Yes
@steep lantern show the screenshot of what it looks like when you try upload
I'm now waiting for a friend that also got the same treatment to send me his log file from the event so I can see the avatar and user IDs that did this
make sure you report it over to VRC staff via a moderation report when you get it
That is what I'm gonna do
So far I've only got the link to the thumbnail of the avatar used to crash us, I'm sure the vrc team could track them down through that but I don't think it'll suffice for any moderation actions
the ID is probably enough.
I hope so, I'll try to get it from my friend since I deleted everything related to vrchat while trying to unbrick my account before reinstalling it, including my log files(bad move)
some people smh
@vocal shard is VRChat ending?

Everything must come to an end @indigo fern
The end is nigh π₯

2012 all over again
Everyone talks about the end of 2012
Im convinced that 2012 was some orchestrated meme
Bcausee th ere are too many nutcase who claim that the end is coming every year
The Mayans were the OG memelords
What about the original, Twister?
You know, that flick with Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt.
wow, imagine not liking san andreas featuring the "dwayne johnson" rock
I can't wait 4 weeks.... I want my VR headset now.... but i gotta save for at least a week or 2 to be able to buy it, and then it'll take somewhere from a week to two weeks to get here.....
I'm just waiting for my taxes to come back in and then imma go and get mine
590 bucks, gonna get me a good head set
I'm not going expensive since its my first one
I'm hoping to get the money before the 230$ samsung one goes back up to 400$
Good luck
I have my birthday in 3 days, a paycheck tomorrow (11PM here) but only 110$ in my account right now.... (Don't have any big expenses because living with family)
Could be worse, I got paid today, also 11pm here, and I have 3 dollars in my bank
I already sold over $700 in MtG cards and still am struggling. On to selling D&D Minis next.
Too bad you don't have an alpha black lotus
I lost a beta black vise in the shuffle somehow. I think someone swiped it.
Probably, I think those run 700 by themselves
It wasn't in fantastic condition.
Depending on condition, obvi



