#vrchat-general-2
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hey guys, anyone using vrchat to learn a language?
hey my cousin is finally active 
yeah, Japanese
yeees
well sort of
and sign language
lol hey nor
cool. How much formal practice are you using for japanese?
Many people I'm sure Loquen. Have you seen any of the videos about the sign language community in VRC?
i wanna learn sign language
you been in a private world alot lately
yeah to learn english
yes, i've seen some of the sign ones

Yeah I have Wishes, it's the end of the day relax and watch something before bed time
Also just in case you've not see it yet, there is also a #portuguese channel down below that you might be interested in too.
lol come and watch something with me
Hey Jamie.
i saw it, already talked in it @ruby burrow
A bit @timber jasper , going to start with reading text soon
@polar jasper o haii

@snow wadi I seriously have no idea what their logic is.
@polar jasper that's neat men. If you have any tips to make things faster lemme know
I've always been alive ๐
Phax always been alive, just sleeping.
oh shit, an immortal

Yeah, don't rush it. There is no shortcuts to learning a language faster, unless you catch onto it naturally
that is true. Even though i'm a native spanish speaker, its still a bit difficult to learn portuguese
nor, lol i use to call you Fax snore lol idk why i use to pronounce your name like that..
you can randomly stab your brain until your learn it
apparently it happened to a few people

Start with common sentences when speaking, and the basics when reading
i have a speech problem most of you already know lol
oh yea true. just make sure you dont forget your native language... since that also seems to happen
do you want to erp?
Already happened @ivory igloo ๐
ye, thats what i said you lil pp >:U
how do you know he got a lil pp ?
dont you want to know.
...nooooooo dont do this
I read that as something else.
i'm adding that as your notes

that i know phaxy's lil pp?

Fast lane to learning.
http://www.scifiideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/transfer-of-knowledge.jpg

Could try that too, sleep with a language program running
lol youll wake up singing your abcs lol
Just got to grind up books and download them into your brain.
Gotta get that language dlc
hey you making fun of my singing lol
Wanna get "pushed" in the night? @ivory igloo You know the rumors...
hey people love my singing in vrchat..
For some reason I'm now imagining someone with an avatar in VRC, that has headphones playing one of those sleep learning tracks.
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sleep learning tracks that teaches you how to roll your R's
Sleep in VR with 200% more productivity.
Oh man I love me some sleeping in VR
ALRIGHT i never understood people sleeping in VRC. why yall do this???
I'd have no qualms with doing it myself if it weren't for the risk of damaging my VR gear.
cant be comfortable. impossible. the pushing of the screen on your face. the headset on your ears. why???
So, you would like to get stuck in VR?
Also, tracker battery life. Waking up with rigor mortis isn't very immersive.
Depends on the padding you got on the headset
well i have a usb headset and a seperate thing for my VR
plus I can just replace new batteries if mine die
Probably easiest in an OG Vive with the stock strap
^^
Yeah, I came to the same idea Jaime. Never actually tried it though.
i got razor nari.
i could see sleeping in vrchat being somehow relaxing
i mean if im in a rain world ill fall right asleep
Only ever used the deluxe strap myself. (Spare when trying out my brothers Vive before I got my own.)
Nari delux?
like, the same reason people would use those white noise things. For example my mom has tinnitus, she uses audios to sleep. VR could be an alternative?
i think maybe once they are more compatible with laying down.
@vocal shard "Just 2 more years and you will get your perfect VR life!"
VR is not a alternative to tinnitus
i prefer laying on my sides and its not comfortable laying on my side with a big headset on.
Basically yeah. If you happen to be in a nice relaxing world, are tired and comfortable enough, but have no motivation to leave VR, it could be easy to fall asleep for some.
laying on your side is probably the best for vr sleeping, offsets the full weight on your face
this is true!
Personally I always get up and say goodnight, since I simply don't want to risk damaging my headset, but is easy to understand the appeal.
I usually fall asleep when we have lectures in the listening rooms at faculty of applied science, because the seats there are just too much comfortable! Btw, have lots of lectures there, because I study ICT, so it is my root faculty.
very hard
from scratch of course
I find a few main issues for any long term rest in VR.
- If on your back, the headset weight is on your face, and is also likely to pull your head to one side when you loose consciousness.
- If on your side, unless using earbuds, the headphones will press into your ears, and are at high risk of damage.
- Regardless of how you lay, the cable is at high risk of damage, more so especially once you pass out and can no longer ensure it's at a safe angle and not kinked.
You won't be able to do it properly, but you'll get the basics
hmm... well. i think VRsign is different then normal sign language. since its not as... handsey?
If you got Index it is better (still not available in this country)
not to mention.. with the cables theres a change of strangelation. which is my main reason for not sleeping with vr on
yeah i forgot that, you really need index to be able to sign
Anything on/in your ears while sleeping is bad - it keeps moisture inside and helps the bacteria in there to grow.
ye
VR sign language is based upon but different to any normal IRL sign language yes.
It makes modifications to better suit the current limitations of VR.
Guess why? Because not a lot of users have index to track whole hands.
They have versions for both with and without Index. It all started before Index released, afterall.
but i heard there are people who give.. lectures? on vrc sign language
Going shopping. Be right back!
tyt! c:
2 more years and ill have one of those full body suits like in ready player one
even if its over $1000+
oof. imagine being hit with one of those fullbody suits
i think they would modify that tbh
or adjustable
yeah, probably not the full length of ready player one but you know
full body but without the straps
what's the weirdest/rarest language you guys heard in VRchat?
words and not asl

every language ecxept english, japanese, russian, and german
Danish.
Finnish
no I consider it rare because I havent heard it on vrc
wait for real?
weird is every langauge that I dont understand (every language except for german and english)
i find a shit ton of fellow latinos going around
...unless they separate eu/na servers?
i found very few EU people
I'm half Latino, but can't speak Spanish ;-;
@vocal shard no better time to learn than right now
I guess timezones... When its daytime in north america its not daytime in eu so only few europeans will be online then
yeah but even if i connect at 2am i dont find eu lads
what part is latino ?
pretty much everything below murica
XD
go to "sauerkraut high" and youll find some eu lads (germans and maybe austrians)
dont expect to meet alot of friendly people though... the german community is really weird... there are alot of friendly but also alot of toxic people
and the friendly ones mostly hang out with people that speak english I guess
idk... the toxic ones hang out in their groups and trashtalk anyone that isnt part of their group
well me gran granpops were german, i'm argentinian after all
gonna be like the weird cousin or something

hmm hmm... its really easy to get into toxic trashtalk groups tho if you seem even a little fun to them.
fuck you
but i'd stay clear of them, as they have a lot of drama as well.
gasp I can't believe you just said that
i speak from experience...
yeah, well we know what happened the last time a foreign culture angered the germans
... aah...ha..
(yeah really bad joke)
well. you invaded my country.
well you guys invaded pretty much every piece of land possible on the planet
(assuming you're brit)
I AM DUTCH
The speedbump of europe
we ruled the seas
ahh, a swamp german i see
You also had an economic due to some flowers
there is a lot of you in this discord surprisingly
waitaminute when did argentina invade the dutch
we did! XD

I hear it sometimes now because of my friend but before VRC I had never paid attention to Hungarian. Im sure I have heard it sometime in life but not when knowing it was Hungarian or where I had a good listen. So to me it sounded really weird cause it's really different from Germanic languages and even if related to Finnish it's not very much like it in sound (Finnish I've heard a lot as a Swede). And it is pretty rare to hear in VRC as well. Oh and it's now one of my favourite sounding languages.
playing civ 6 i heard about hungarian, sounds dope
only languages i think sound even cooler are aztec and incan, but gl learning those lmao
haha. you mean from other players or from game's voice acting? (I know what CIV is but not familiar with it enough)
i tried learning basic nahuatl (aztec), i almost summoned some eldritch abominations
game voice acting
I can hear some similarities to Finnish and Swedish in Hungarian, and apparently Turkish sounds similar but haven't had a comparing listen myself yet
speaking of dead languages I do love latin
@mental shuttle type "civ 6 leader introductions" on youtube
interesting question. Language is an intense interest for me X3
oh I've seen this before. but it doesnt say who is from where
but I should be able to tell when Hungarian comes
its basically a joke, it means rome is invincible
ok
do you know any romance language?
no
Is nobody gonna address this bloody issue. I can't enjoy this game. It takes so fucking long to download any world at all. I've been trying to download a 4MB world for like 5 minutes. 50MB take like 20 minutes. Is it just me??
I only speak Swedish and English fluently and then some Japanese
i think french is also? correct me if i'm wrong honhons
My teacher called me a terrorist
@mental shuttle i can teach you basic spanish
Heaven. QwQ poor heaven
if u want
My teacher called me a terrorist
@cursive ivy ah i see u're learning arab
oh my god..
haha. Im always up for learning a bit of any language. but I wouldnt try hard with Spanish. a lot of others Im more interested in but will always focus on Japanese. but if I run in to you in VRC I'd like that
@timber jasper are you also very interested in languages like me? then I'd love to see u in VRC
yes
i'm still new in vrchat but i'd love to try and learn the basics of a lot of languages
being a polyglot sounds like a neat idea
I want to be one for sure. you can add me if u want. same name as here
haha, u dont have to tell me that. I can see it
ok sry
no problem, no need to say sorry
sorry for saying sorry
be sorry for saying you're sorry for being sorry.
Are there any like decent vr things that arrnt crazy pricey
Define crazy pricey
Baseline for good vr is about $300-400usd
unless its on sale, there isnt eally anything cheaper and at or above "decent" than those prices
That is decent ecerything im seeing is about 500-1000
rift s is 400usd
If samsung O+ is still on sale its 230usd which is basically a rift s trapped inside a headset that doesnt realize its value
most things above 500 usd are jokes for consumers (like the vive cosmos which is a quest trapped inside four kinects and a psvr)
The next step up from rift s would either be hp reverb or valve index
I litteraly have no clue what any of these are lol shows how much about vr i know. Any advice? I remember when i first baught my pc they said it was vr compatible does vr not work on some pcs?
This wqs like 3 or so years ago
it's all on specs
tell us your specs and we'll tell you
At work lol. Maybe later
uwu
quest or rift s?
wdym?
What do i buy?
rift s
Why?
true
For VRChat defiantly rift s
Rift S
But what about oculus link?
because you can't play vrchat on the Quest
you can barely access any worlds and most avatars are replaced by ugly robots
Even with oculus link, the quest is limited compared to the rift S experience. The quest has video compression, and a less clear screen,.
Understandable, have a nice day
it also has a different refresh rate. 72 on quest, 80 on rift s
Nah, Rift S is 80
fixing
So I was in a public lobby and my avatar changed (it wasn't by me so u have no clue how it happened) and it lags me out, I even spam (Ctrl +/) but it won't revert to the default avatar anyone know anything about this?
Is an annoying hack going around. You can change your avatar to default on the VRC website to escape it.
Thank you
go on the VRChat website - login - click avatars on the left - click reset to default avatar.
^
there should be a launch flag you can specify in steam launch settings to reset avi for steam users
if there isnt already
Potato Chips Cause More Weight Gain Than Any Other Food
why does anyone not do anything? the answer is simple. pure, refined laziness
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its a miracle I actually made one, too
Is it true that VRchat closes?
Ah I see thanks
I was very confused by this. Why would they still work un unity 2018 for vrchat when they are closing anyway
tired of randoms creating weird rumors and having no communications from the team
Yeah. I saw some poster that someone made about the "closing announcement" and it's really bad. Lol
Wait you dont love to explain how people need to reset there avatar for the 100th time?
because it's bullshit like everytime some random idiots get banned
wtf is wrong today only idiots with clients which are switching your Avatars ban this ass...ho.es..
k
staffing great pug bar rn
People falling for the "vrchat closing" image shows me how those scam companies keep finding victims.
wait vrchat is closing?
No
are u sure?
can u prove it
Yes, Do you see anything in #announcements saying that it's going to shut down?
"legitimate" lmao
Hmmm what if I do
You won't find anything lol
So are you saying the lack of proof of it means it isn't happening
Yes it it not happening, If it was shutting down we would hear about it in #announcements
And not some rumor
Hmmm I don't know if that's true
Maybe they decided to announce it via untraditional means
Conspirations? OK! Now persuade me, that they have real aliens in Area 51 and you work there! ๐คฃ
You think there is aliens in Area 51, Rampa? Do you have proof of this
Idk. I am saying YOU should try to persuade me!
It is just a conspiration! Same as the shutdown rumor!
Listen, you're the one suggesting there is aliens in area 51, not me.
Don't lump me in with those crazy people
of course rampa is starting more shit
I think the aliens are actually in the white house and using human skins to cover their lizard bodies. Area 51 makes no sense
everytime i see him in a chat. same thing
And on what basis you claim that shutdown is not a product of some freak?
pseudo intellectual god complex
And on what basis do you claim there is aliens in area 51
Jeez do your research rampa, you look silly
Vrchat is actually closing
I just got a message from tupper by a homing pigeon
On none. I say persuade me that it does or doesn't exist.
same
sorry weebs, party is closed
svel :0
it's literally always the same
Clowns!
You guys really like getting eachother going. 
rampa starts shit, is wrong, starts defending and being more wrong until he gets the last word
@vocal shard
I am just here existing, I don't know why ramp is bullying me
I'll remove your small toes jamie, you'll never be able to stand up properly
I just said it is is an conspiracy.
O.O
what about the big toe
the small one is more annoying
(sorry for loose ping - hit enter instead of shift)
ye but u can't walk without the big toe
Rampa thinks I claimed the shutdown picture was real, since he misinterpreted everything I said. And then he compared people believing in the fake shutdown to believing aliens exist in area 51.
but I want him to walk, just not being able to walk straight or stand up without falling
i mean it's the same loop when he gets into any type of conversation
I mean Aliens DO exist, just not in Area 51, which is why I called Rampa silly for not doing his research
how can you look at him and say that aliens don't exist
i'm an alien and i'm not in area 51
I knew it was not real. The persuading should have been a poke, that shows I really think you bluff!
Maybe Rampa is an alien
shut it god complex nn
silence mortal
svel ur a mortal
you got no proof of that
ya i do
ah shit
i'm sorry
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i called u out 
In Czech I would say: "And now the one about the Little red riding hood!", which means I don't believe it and it is totally made up - ergo a fairy tale.
yeah, barrier language is really a bitch
just know every language 4hed
If I said the thing I wrote about the aliens IRL, you would have got it, that I bluffed. But chat can't carry emotions.
I know Rampa I am just playing along
@pale timber Who I am? Well, the killer terminator android, that will come for your skin, to use it as disguise and then comes to get everyone on the next IRL community meetup! MUHAHA!
who?
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u have to try out for the role
@vocal shard You can have that role. It was just the first bluff I could think off.
air cooling
Idea! Make a terminator version of your avatar for next Halloween Jamie!
(Then go and jumpscare VR Pill... hehehe!)
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I had an old Terminator version a couple years ago. Half skin, half metal limbs and a shotgun
Nice!
shoot me 
And try adding maybe some voice changer magic! That could work nicely. Would be pretty funny to find out, how many people would jump!
Could be pretty funny to approach someone normally, then switch model, enable voice changer and watch the reaction! ๐คฃ

lol
Are you saying that you're a robot @vocal shard ?

Yeah. That's my avatar lore anyway 
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If you meet me in game you'll see like my eyes are robotic style with an aperture and glow
When Life gives you ๐
you don't make lemonade
that's new
insert the rest of the Cave Johnson quote here
I think Cave Johnson was making a LemonADE (Lemon Grenade)
Btw, I think that ZBrush could work nicely on avatar creation, but not everyone has a license.
You were once the youngest person alive.
anyone know if its possible to get VRChat to read a drawing tablet as the mouse? Im trying to use my display tablet and the only thing it can do is left click and right click but it wont let me actually control the movement of the screen
yet when I navigate menus like login it clearly shows its reading it but only works in game with a mouse
You have to set the tablet into mouse mode. The game takes what the driver and OS serves it.
is that just like a control panel thing I have to flip or
What manufacturer you have? Wacom usually have external app to set this on app by app basis.
XP-Pen 22
Idk, try Google. Query with <tablet name> settings and it should give something.
So I got a quest with a link cable and tried PCVR vrchat, My poor PC is going nuclear and my brain is too because of all the people talking and shit
Was I fooled by the "This game helped my social anxiety" meme?
It's not a meme
It definitely helped my anxiety, but it took lots of time
^
I went months without talking
same but i built up to small sentences then went on to full-on conversations
I'm guessing public instances of the great pug is a bad example of this game?
Yeah
I can tell
Pug, room in rain and black cat are the most likely to have kids and chaos
Yah it helped me anxiety a lot as well. Took like 400 hours of gameplay for me to work up the courage to start talking. Started off not even being able to 'make eye contact' with other players and I'd run away if anyone tried to talk to me
I played as a mute for awhile and my defence mechanism was playing a yandere murder type character while I got used to the people around me and warmed up to interacting and socializing more. Would start typing to them on discord and eventually on voice after a long time
don't let Yandere Dev hear you lol
C o n s u m e t h e C u m C h a l i c e
but yeah, if public pugs and other popular things like that are filled with kids and stuff, how did you guys managed to eventually make friends and stuff?
Well for me I started in 2017 when publics didn't suck
we started when everyone was nice
You'd never see a kid back then, everyone was like in their 20s
So i'm boned?
Ofcourse not.
You have to find the rare 'chill' person sitting in a public and latch on to them, follow them to friends+ worlds and steal all their friends
All the chill people sit in friends+ or private worlds
^
Go to lower pop worlds, more relaxing type worlds. More likely to find some older users just chilling. Suck up to them and they'll take you to the friends+ worlds and you'll be set.
I've always struggled to find users in late twenties when it comes to public worlds. I've had to do exactly that, latch onto someone in a chill world and sneak in that way.
Never fails!
VRchat Lunatic diffuculty true ending walkthrough part 1
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Now, here's part two of the challenge. If you want to find wholesome people, GOOD LUCK.
Is there any way to do push to talk in VRChat? Like, not global, I don't want to mute my Discord, just the game?
So that doesn't mute the entire mic, just for the game?
Oh... uhh.. that mutes the entire mic. yah.
@zealous musk hold V
ye you open the menu and click the mic sign
good luck finding us thirty-somethings in public.
There is a VRC mic toggle botton option for Index
Sorry forgot to say I'm on HTC Vive
,, ye you open the menu and click the mic sign
I've found a few in their thirties but it's rare indeed.
I finally find some adults and I get excited only to realize they're lewd and just all erp each other
LOL true
WTB wholesome adults
I do not ERP!
the only people ive actually met that are chill on vrc are over 20 though
I find plenty of younger twenties but not so much later twenties.
I am 28 and my boyfriend is 30 and we are suppperr chill
But we struggle to fit in since everyone in the game is super lewd and wants to erp each other and stuff
Yeah! Agreed!
Hiya Cal.
i meet a lot of chill people idk wym
Rin u dont even play the game
Btw, my friends list in VRChat was made by assisting others and then being friended by them. So you also have chance by actively helping fellow VRChatters.
@sharp saddle Hi!
Ferrari man. 
I think the worst thing I am guilty of is meeting someone great and leaving the session forgetting to add them like a big dumb dumb and realising it later.
but when i do, i meet some
i should start playing more. its not like i have anything else to do
For me, I'll add someone I like, but then not see them for a few weeks and forget who they are >_<
I need to try to be better at joining on people
I think we're all guilty of that xD I sometimes add someone and then completely forget who they are unless they always use the same avatar.
Yah I've been doing better at making mental notes lately. I'll add someone and specifically say in my head 'Okay, remember, this persons name is X... '
I miss it when everyone wore a different avatar and not all the same or simular
I like using the same style or same avatar for the sole purpose of it being my VR identity. I'm easier to remember or so I hope.
I switch avatars so much now tbh. Public avatars and favorite lists... My first 500 hours were in the same handful of avatars I made but now I have a new fav one every few days
public avatars spoil me
ok add me ill join you if i ever get on
@stoic haven You're the Ferrari man. 
I have no idea who you are.
Seriously? I was in that Nanachi world with Mason.
Nope, sorry. Can't recall a Mason either xD
So you don't remember me either?!
Not sure if bad memory...
Bad memory.
Sasha Mason?
Who's Sasha Mason
I was the white-haired guy with glasses.
who?
The "unicorn" on your chest piece reminds me of the Ferrari logo.
Who's Rin
who's yin
I feel terrible now because I honestly can't recall.
Nanachi world, we were all standing at the mirror.
Though Sasha seems familiar to be honest.
The avatars there had backwards hand gestures attached to them. :l
who
I'm sorry Strix >< I honestly can't remember.
S'alright.
I feel terrible now. xD
I will still call you Ferrari Man because of your unicorn piece.
I can accept this.
I swear, one day, I will make it white when I find the motivation to boot up blender for 5 seconds
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@sharp saddle Is Strix the same name you use in VR?
Yep!
Except mine is with a dotless I.
Regular I was taken so I used a dotless version.
You can still find me in the social thing by typing it in normallt.



Moop
Beep
Boop
I exist again
You sure about that Paci?
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Do any of us exist?
Yes I am sure
But what if you are my imagination and are just saying that?
bread is just raw toast
Mind blown
Im 60% sure im not an AI
._.
It's time to wake up
That would mean im sleeping already
But if im sleeping already how can i still be tired?
Hey you, you're finally awake.
Can someone explain this nonsense to me please, i search for "chill hotel" and get completely unrelated popular crap instead. https://i.imgur.com/slpM91n.png
Tags
What id expect is the world that matches - https://i.imgur.com/8EiqFAs.png
You get anything with the tag chill and hotel
Most of these likely have "chill" as a tag
@faint skiff VRChat's search is an OR search
search is set to title not tags
My bets is that doesn't work
title then, but as Gallium said.
Your search isnt 'chill hotel' but 'chill' and 'hotel' and anything that triggers one of those two gets thrown up there
Christ...
Yeah it's pretty shit. โน๏ธ
I wonder how hard it would be to fix that
Cant see it being a nightmare unless the code is pretty ๐
What i also dont doubt
@umbral reef But most the results dont have EITHER of those words in the title
I'm not to happy with the search function either. IMHO best way to find a world is to search the creator if you know who they are.
Which is useless if you're trying to find stuff on a specific-ish theme.
World discovery is not in a good state, especially regarding search.
How can we be 6 years into development and not have working world search? lol
Lets be honest. Almost nothing is in a good state...
Its all in an 'functioning' state
The feature creep has been bad
id agree on feature creep if there were... features...
From world searched not functioning
To full systems like the particle limiter not being properly in the game
Loads of removed things not getting a replacement
Exploits being able to run rampent for months....
Hmm, also do you remember there was an update that massively improved avatar loading speeds? Is it just me or has that completely stopped working and gone back to slow as fuck.
Honestly the one thing i can not complain about and that has been functioning better without feature creep but really needed features is the website and some of the loading times
But thats because system prob summoned a demon and made that demon do all the work ๐
@rough pulsar yeah, that worked for like a week then reverted
For sure it back to its old state yea
Okay good, I thought it was my system falling apart after 3 years of daily use on the original thermal paste.
Still went and replaced it and maxing out at 80c instead of 98c ๐ก๏ธ
Also the "audio update" that just made it harder to hear everyone because the cone volume thing clearly doesnt work
Wowie thats a big jump
What do you mean, we never talk to people without looking at them directly IRL enverex
So why cant we have that in VR also ๐
Even had two thermal cutoffs around 100c or so ๐ฌ
Ow wait, we dont do that in both places..
Should try using a 5 year old laptop that has been running pretty much 24/7 for the past 3 years.
When i replaced it i first cooked on it. Worked fairly well, but it became 110c without a problem.
anyone who lives in the eastern side of the usa and are 18 and older (cuz i rather talk to adults) who want to play later
i need more vrchat freinds
is it only me stuck on the loading screen in vrc ?
Why only East side of USA? You're even excluding Canadians in the same time zone as you.
Also why 18+
because he rather talk to adults
true
agree
also one thing I noticed
people here asking about how vrchat is buggy for them or whatnot, but I think people who are actually playing arent even here to answer that
That is assuming people exclusively do VRChat and never leave
yesh but, if youre playing youre not here, and if youre here you arent playing
and if youre here and can play, why arent you playing?
Because not everyone wants to be in VR 24/7 
Playing VRChat is a large setup and a big time sink. You can easily be creating content and watching the discord at the same time
Or some people like to text while doing things
I played just fine earlier today and I could play right now, doesn't mean that I'm gonna
"Large setup"
I use my phone for discord while I am in VR if I need it.
How's it a large setup?
just use discord in VR
i mean. say I asked if im the only one that cant log on. others would already be in-game if they could check, which means theyre almost certainly not here
Mind blown.
i have 40 hours on the game now and i still cant publish my model
Well generally those types of questions about short term problems are designed to fall on deaf ears
yeah but who uses discord actively while playing vrc. if you want to use discord why even launch vr
I use OVR because there's no way I could read my phone via the Vive camera
40 hrs doing what?
playing the game and adding peeple
yeah @frosty veldt which is more or less what im pointing out
I just peak under around my nose to look at my phone
Not all the time, sometimes you could just dm them, hey who's on or whatcha doin in vrc rn
It's like using your phone in public, unless you don't do that then I guess
Really only look at my phone when I need to do something with discord or if someone is boring the hell out of me
I just use OVR Toolkit, lol
ahaha, Vive Camera...mine constantly disconnects...I have to peep down through the headset to see my phone usually.
My messages take forever to send
Is that just a me problem?
I updated discord and it fixed it
My messages on discord are taking a while to send.
Ye, I use ovr toolkit for checking discord, but for typing it's still leagues faster just to pull my phone out of my pocket and text
You're
i have 40 hours on the game now and i still cant publish my model
I use OVR because there's no way I could read my phone via the Vive camera
oh, there is an update monka
and if youre here and can play, why arent you playing?
How's it a large setup?
wtf is discord doing lmao
also one thing I noticed
its sending old messages for me
I just use OVR Toolkit, lol
oh no
API issues, known
When I restarted Discord, I had the message about API issues and latency and it is being investigated
It's a large setup due to FBT and boot times. I dont want to get strapped in just to log off in 30 min so I usually go for at least a couple hours.
When I restarted Discord, I had the message about API issues and latency and it is being investigated
ok this is kinda silly

discord died for like 2 minutes
discord died for like 2 minutes
discord died for like 2 minutes
@frosty veldt Fair, though without full body, the setup is quite a bit faster
Staying for one hour is minimum though
discord died for like 2 minutes
discord died for like 2 minutes
I couldn't have said it better.
mine arent even taking long to send, but it still double posting something lmao
@frosty veldt Fair, though without full body, the setup is quite a bit faster
Staying for one hour is minimum though
Hard to chat with a 30 second delay lmao
Time to take refuge in steam chat ๐๐ป
Hard to chat with a 30 second delay lmao
anyone trying to play
discord died for like 2 minutes
That they still haven't fixxed it besides multiple times change loggin it that they fixxed it is mind blowing.
Client could create a simple id for each message transmitted, and if the server receives the same message with the same key it knows it's double and could drop it or something.
But well. Can only wait it out. 
Did it stop
Paul no spam pls 

anyone trying to play
yea i have 40 hours on the game and i still cant upload my model i want
It's not time based
me but it's 1 am gotta get some sleep
could someone explain how the whole new/regular/trusted tiers are achieved? I've also been playing for a while but I've got no idea, and there isn't much explanation in game XD
Thanks in advance!
no one really knows how they are achieved. Best guess is that active playtime, uploading, and not getting blocked/hidden/muted is how you achieve higher ranks
interesting, and mysterious! How do I see my own rank?
Profile
in game?
Yup
hmm... i dont know if i've ever been able to find that tab either lul
gonna launch right now and fiddle around, thanks for the info btw ๐
When you have your menu open in game, just move the pointer off the menu into the background and your rank will show up as a colour around your avatar picture
last night
And before last night?
a few days

i've been playing on and off for a few hours at a time for over a year now. Occasional monthly breaks, but more or less popping in here and there
i've got about 20 friends on my friendslist, and only been muted once afaik
20 is very low
Yea
I got trusted at 420 hours
i'm not very good at being social ;w;
380 here
Chad
it still should be fine, he doesnt even have new user yet
ahh ok, thats valid XD
also *she, but yes
ive gotten new user on an alt just walkin around, like 5 friends maybe
something seems off
mood
damn, why VRChat gotta be like this ๐ข
The systems strange
Its to lessen creating alt accounts to harass
I should sleeep
maybe try sending a ticket to support
https://help.vrchat.com/new/
let me check how many hours I actually have, because it might be more in my mind than it is in reality haha
still, year old account with at least some play time at visitor seems really strange
ahh i'm at 35 hours in total
I got new user after a week
Just got a message stating that VRchat will be gone in march sometime? Is that true?
no thats a meme
well its usually >40 so
35 hours over the course of a year
gotcha
one or two hours here and there with long breaks, it can happen XD
Average anyways
also like i said, i find it hard to actually make friends, so i usually just hop through worlds for ~1 hour before bed. doesn't rack up a lot of playtime that way haha
meanwhile i've got 500 hours in Rust lel
alright, time to get those last 5 hours!! gimme dat new user >:O rubs hands together
If you take super long breaks, its no surprise to me
^
I got new user in under 10 hours
huh, interesting
Because I made quite a few friends and visited many worlds
In private?
nope, public lobbies
And the people there helping me and being with me helped me
Another tip is favoriting worlds any avatars
ahh i see, i've got favorite avatars but no favorite worlds
i think it is probably my low playtime, and my sporadic frequency of play XD
thanks for all the info!! I've been curious for a while, haha
Good luck!
I have a index and a vive but I dislike how the index makes me physically do the gestures because most times it doesnโt respond, and the vive keeps flipping through my gestures when walking around.. any fixes or addons I could do to make it easier
Have you tried using the Vive advanced controlls?
I havenโt used vive after getting the index, any new updates?
No
For the index, is it just not doing the gestures u r doing with ur hands? @finite kraken
Whenever I do a gesture like rock n roll the pinky doesnโt move up in game or I would have to put my fingers in uncomfortable positions that reacts for short periods of time like extending my pinky out far as I can
touch controller moment
Index controllers have a slight learning curve on how to adjust and calibrate them properly
They need to sit in the right spot on your hand, and you gotta wiggle your fingers.
hey can anyone here make avatars?
Nope, No one does
if you're looking to have someone make an avatar for you, you can go to #community-servers-old and find VRC Traders
If you want help i think you go to one of the channels under the Avatar tab
i have like 40 hours on vrchat and i still cant publish a model i have a bunch of friends added and they added me this is very annyoing
are you a visitor?
i used to play on my steam account but i switched and i now have 40 hours on my new account
doesn't answer my question
yea i am
how do o check that
you just said you were a visitor..?
idk how do i check what rannk i am im sorry im a little confused
you can go on the website and check what the color of your border is, or in-game you can open the menu and it displays your rank and your user
it says im a new user and its blue
what rank do i have to be
and i have been doing that for 40 hours
it will just say user
playtime has nothing to do with rank
i know that
to upload you need to be at least New User, or have the blue border
my rank is new user how close am i
then you can upload
are you on the right version?
yes
i have the 2018 one unity
Are you using beta?
thats kinda dumb
How
imagine trying to upload to a version the game doesn't even support and calling it dumb
There's a stable, beta, and alpha(sorta) version.
stable
Stable most likely.
Woah a full lobby with 24 people I was in just all got their avatars changed and everyone had to close the game.
Someone was using a modded client.
Ohhh, why are they so common? Had it happen to me yesterday too.
What world were you in?
Room of the Rain
Stay away from there, it's a common target.
the huge worlds that are popular have many client users
I feel like the fact the world file's small is another factor, but probably just because more people can fit in a single room.
I wonder if that's something that's preventable
not at all for now
Ah..
i mean just don't go into populated worlds
Right, kinda ruins the point of the game, haha.
not really?
10 people lobbies are fine.
Oh I can see who made the avatar that they changed me to.
Would reporting them do anything?
Sapnu puas
is it possible to forcve the computer to run vrchat on the graphics card
how would you see the game without it using one?
the game splits the prioritization between cpu and gpu
i want all of i to run on GPU cuz i have an RTX 2080 super and a 5 year old processors
you can't not use a cpu
That's not how it works

sigh
the game is already mostly gpu
There are methods to optimize code and having been in the beta, they're definetly getting working on that. But an old crappy CPU is an old crappy CPU ๐คท
The Vrchat devs can't make a miracle happen lol
i have a 2011 cpu and it does its job
also isn't 2018 going to support multithreadding
The game already does, but 2018 does provide a far better way to share the workload across threads and cores
I assume that's what a lot of work has been done on, because 2018 already does use way less CPU
oh so one thread is prioritized or something in the current version?
It's more that the threads don't do efficient pooling and scheduling. That's what the unity jobs system helps with.
oooo
Though one thread is still sorta prioritized because of the way dx11 works. If only we could go to Vulkan, but that would break basically 100% of shaders :3
oh true
umm I think ive been hacked
My model changed while I wasent even in game and i just play creepy laughing when I try to go into vrchat
log in on the site and reset your avatar
it's the same avatar people keep describing
The 4 days aren't even up yet.
because the actual malicious clients were probably fine 
its was called something with alot of caps
you can reset your avatar through the website
login, avatar tab, reset to default button
Imagine how miserable one must be to feel the urge to ruin someone's experience in a social game.
bad people switching your avatar
you dont, just reset when it happens
don't go into a world with a scary man
Where you in room of the rain?
You can't really. It's a modified client.
yeah
ofc
It's always the same worlds xD
aria this is enough proof B)
prevention not possible, avoidance would be dont go into super full places like room of rain, kinda known for that stuff
Yea, I've heard at least 30 people or so now, and it's always rotr
of course, room of rain is the new box, ez to see everyone poof
damn well I guess Ill never go there again
do you guys know how to activate expressions on the valve index, its really inconsistent and weird
:0 and udon's coming too
Press the left thumbstick down.
i know that
now everyone is hating rotr 
you have no way of selecting what you gonna do tho
things activate on its own without you doing anything
wait so what do you mean by trigger
It's the positions of your fingers.
i know that certain actions activate them
like gripping your controller with all fingers
Usually it's pointing your finger and thumbs up.
The rest of your fingers are closed, but your thumb isn't touching anything.
So what im hearing is doing anything in the room of rain will mess you up
Yeah
guess im a vrc boomer already if people dont understand box comparisons ๐
like having the long finger and another to activate a certain one?
box box
Just explore with your hands. Pun really unintended.
no. you're fine. other people with bad bad clients do it
. . . I dunno about that one . . . ๐ค
so just avoid it until it's fixed is what i'd say
im guessing there is not much support for valve index
I bought index controllers but ended up going back to my wands for VRChat.
rip money
id rather use something that i can use expressions on more easily than the index
I want to get wands because I can double them as trackers as well as Raw Data doesn't have knuckles support.
i bought index for boneworks lol
The wands r bad
Boneworks makes me ๐คข
oh yeah lol
Yeah, I use my index controllers for every other game, just not VRChat.
Still working on those VR legs.
i feel epic playing boneworks
the game is absolutely amazing
literally havent gotten motion sick once
never
Lucky
I mean people complain about motion sickness because most people in vr r prone to motion sickness
Very common side effect of vr
Where did I complain?
Not talking to u
not you, but like everyone on youtube
I mean my friends I let play my index got motion sick in vrc and boneworks
bruh lol
Because they simply r not use to vr
anyway thanks for the help angel man
Only game I ever really gotten motion sickness from is echo VR
Nothing else really
Actually, smooth turning took a bit to get use to
But after that I was good : D
Also came natural to me, never got motion sick
First time I put on a headset, I was not sick. only time I got sick was the camera moving during me watching a video.
i explained that bad
i've never been motion sick. immersion would honestly be a lot better if i had it imo
or at least something to feel different
I am perfectly fine with echo so far. Climbing stuff gets me.
And smooth locomotion.
I did Mission: ISS, and wasn't sick despite the fact that is probably the most illness inducing vr game I can think of.
Some a-hole force-changed my avatar into something that froze the game and played distant creepy laughing (continuing to do so with every start-up), no idea who but it was a pretty full public room ๐ Was a reddit post about it already thankfully so found a fix but ugh, god
Seems someone mentioned it 50 minutes ago too so well, yeah, just know they're very likely still on the run ruining fun because why not "haha". Not sure how to track such a person down since I'm a newbie with VRChat but the avatar is a Jerry memeface wit hthe text "green gray cracked unseemly & bunny was here :)" and then "n-word what"
Basically would avoid public rooms for now, I got it again just trying to join a world
so im in unity and i hit vrchat sdk and hit open control panle and it wont open
can anyone help ?
Repeat it some times
it just wont work
can somone send the right link for unity and vrchat sdk beucse is aint working me please send it would really help
?
does anyone here know if https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-particle-system-limits is still a thing?
I believe it still works.
I have mine set
Yeah it works
I put some high numbers in it so I can see every animations but can't be crashed with particles
Yea, haven't been particle crashed since I set it either. Tbh can't tell if that's just cause crashers move to new territory or it worked, but I think it does work.
Scripting mate
It works because most of those smooth brains are too dumb to use something else to crash
From 10 crashes a day I went down to like 1 crash per week when I set it up
@vocal shard witch lts do i install theres like 30 2017 versions
im on there website now where do i go on there websitw
did you read that setting up sdk link? the version you need is the first one highlighted in blue
yes i download both of those and they still dont work
anyone else having problems uploading?
yea i am
i'm having issues even loading into vrchat in general
witch one do you have becuse i need to download unity lts 2017 but theres like a millon versions
the one vrchat is using
witch one is that sorry kinda new to this
2017.4.28f1
heckkk no worlds are loading or anything for me, i can't join anyone
Everything you just asked is in the link I posted
@turbid lotus read


Hi qhalla

yea i installed the right stuff then i hit open control panel in unity and it still wont open does it matter what sdk i use i used the one on the vrchat.com
You have a error in your project stopping it from appearing
nope it just wont open
hi peep
i click on it nothing happens
anyone wanna do stuff on vr chat?
Have you checked your console for errors?
Warnings during import of AudioClip Assets/VRCSDK/Examples/Sample Assets/ow.ogg
FSBTool WARNING: This source file was truncated. Length reported 242948 bytes, length decoded = 240384 bytes.
ImportFBX Warnings:
Mesh 'Plane' has 4 (out of 4) vertices with no weight and bone assigned (they will be assigned to bone #0 with weight 1). The list of vertices: 0, 1, 2, 3
vvFile 'Walk' has rig import warnings. See Import Messages in Rig Import Tab for more details.
vFile 'Idle' has animation import warnings. See Import Messages in Animation Import Settings for more details.
The problem is, that it is too much clusterf*ck for people who don't know how to work with Unity. The team should make some uploader for done models that don't show unity and uses it somehow in the background I think. It would be easier for people who just bought/downloaded finished avatar.
Also wrong channel #user-support-old
Yeah was just about say let's move there
k sorry
Rampa, there are a shit ton of good, perfectly working tutorials out there
If someone cant read or really wants to install random files on there pc (cough stop using the website that allows you to download unity ready avatars cough)
So making a system like that, what would take a shit ton of extra work would be silly




