#vrchat-general-2

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umbral reef
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Fix the way to change everyone there avatar πŸ™‚ ?

wet sluice
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No, true justice

devout berry
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@faint skiff I wouldn't poke it too much - don't wanna get in status quo where any post about anything suspicious become banable offense.

sterile ingot
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VRC is unsafe.

umbral reef
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If you think of the legal way its easier said then done
And its laughable depending where the guy lives

sterile ingot
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Class action suit from the community for being a nuisance. Everyone gets $10 from him.

wet sluice
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That's why I mean they could've begun some time ago. It's a slow process, but one that usually has results provided the dumbass is active.

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Which he is...

grim canopy
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vrcAlert Hey we’re trying to encourage people to play VRChat... please do not talk or post anything or realated to any bad things!!! #rules Thanks... If you have a problem go to #user-support-old... WishesGaveThumbsUp

umbral reef
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πŸ’€

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Just ping a chatmod instead of mini modding

devout berry
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Let's just add temporary rule 26 - Too deep technical talk or otherwise suspicious talk is instant banable offense! 🀣

vocal shard
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what rule exactly, wishes ?

faint skiff
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@grim canopy Ahahahaha

umbral reef
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What we talked about was not anything technical lmao

vocal shard
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which one prevent me from calling out a script kiddie ?

faint skiff
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@grim canopy Careful you can still breathe if you brown-nose that hard.

sterile ingot
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Cause nothing is more encouraging for players than telling them they can't air their grievances when clearly the correct avenue that should work doesn't. /s

devout berry
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Let's make a totality regime, where unwanted words are banable offense @sterile ingot ! 🀣

umbral reef
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@wet sluice But they have not really anything to get him on. Best option is trying to get the cops to take action but them fixing the problem would happen 200x faster...
And into court? Well for that.. Trying to prove damages is gonna be hard

sterile ingot
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He'd stop once he was served. Turn a paler shade and turn his stomach.

wet sluice
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Not really. In America, he's already committing a felony. Damages would be icing on the cake.

umbral reef
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If he can even get served~

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@wet sluice A company wont take you to jail though πŸ‘ The cops do

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So unless the cops give a fuck, what often isnt the case. Nothing would happen

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Legit there ISP might be the most caring to take action of anyone

faint skiff
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Pretty sure he's in Russia. In the video (which the mods have removed to hide that this even happens) shows Cyrillic characters in the login section.

devout berry
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It is still on YT. Anyone can find it.

faint skiff
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The ISP won't care as they're not technically breaking any laws, only the ToS of VRChat. It may technically violate laws like the Computer Misuse Act in the UK, but it would be too minor for the authorities to care.

devout berry
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Until the devs take it down somehow. Maybe copyright - it has the loading music not removed and they have copyright for it.

torpid tree
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Im getting an error on VRChat "Could not log in. Please try again later"

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😐

umbral reef
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@devout berry
Thats not how copyright works

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@torpid tree Try using your email to log in instead

torpid tree
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Kk

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Logged in with vrchat

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thanks

faint skiff
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There's a video from 4 days ago of them going into the Room of the Rain and turning everyone into that crasher avatar.

umbral reef
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Legit the best option they have to stop this is flat out fixing the problem..

faint skiff
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The moderation is so painfully lax that people are posting videos OF THEMSELVES ON YOUTUBE doing it, to no result.

umbral reef
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Moderation has nothing to do with this. Please explain what they can do beside ban someone the second it happened.

torpid tree
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Anyone got a tutorial on how you can play music thru your mic without repeating other application noises

devout berry
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This destroys the game's image. Any way to start taking them down?

umbral reef
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@devout berry By removing there way of doing it πŸ™‚

faint skiff
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Ban the user doing it (via something other than just account), ban the user that uploaded the avatar in the same way and then proactively keep on top of the issue rather than trying to brush it under the carpet. Obviously actually fixing the exploit needs to be done too.

devout berry
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@torpid tree I do it trough voicemeeter banana and player with selectable output device.

umbral reef
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So you ban by ip what does not function as VPN's are common this day and age.
You want to proactively ban users? How can you pin point the guy? Details are needed for plans not just idea's.

torpid tree
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Any way you could screenshare/Sshot your settings?

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Machine ID ban vrcLaughing

umbral reef
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Ow yea, forgot that. Totally no way at all to avoid that /s

torpid tree
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Thats how synapse blacklists people from their rule breaking users

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as well as ip

umbral reef
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There are programs that change all the data a program loggs on you on boot...
Privacy communties love that stuff you know

devout berry
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@torpid tree Until what time in UTC you will be online? I can make you a video tutorial, but first I have to get to my university dorm from home - catching train in under half hour.

torpid tree
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Im up the whole day.

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Let me check

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4pm - 7am next day

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lol

devout berry
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Ok. I'll record it, put to my g-drive and send it to your DM.

torpid tree
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πŸ‘Œ

faint skiff
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@umbral reef Not trying because "there are ways around that" is a poor excuse. There are ways around everything, doesn't mean people still shouldn't try, especially when it acts as a deterrent too.

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Plus, the more effort they have to go through to do something, the less likely they are to do it.

umbral reef
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@faint skiff They already ip ban
HWID bans are just an extra hard step to add without large gain

faint skiff
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Is it a hard step? It doesn't seem like it

umbral reef
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And more effort indeed means less bad people
But it has to be effective

faint skiff
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Given the current amount of "bad people" then any effort right now seems like it would be worthwhile.

umbral reef
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Ow please explain then why almost all games IP ban for really bad things but almost never HWID ban.

torpid tree
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I wonder if someone made a lyrics video with the n word in it if they would have to be black or not to type it in vrcThinking

sterile ingot
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Ban based off the MAC address. Sure it can be spoofed, and a good hacker likely does, though then it's down to the Hardware* level.

umbral reef
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I know literally one game that does HWID and IP banning.

faint skiff
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Most online games actually have some form of cheat protection and don't need to resort to this level of nonsense

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That, that's why

umbral reef
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@sterile ingot You cant and thats dumb/useless to do

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I wont care to explain why but a quick google should show you enough

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@faint skiff So becaues games have anti cheat they dont use HWID banning?

faint skiff
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"Well, there are ways around that, so why bother?" Apply that logic to most parts of laws or your daily life and see how much of a mess it would be if you followed that logic.

umbral reef
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Stawman logic :5head:

faint skiff
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Their anti cheat catches most, so they don't need to

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It's not strawman, it's common fucking sense that you're trying your damndest to ignore

umbral reef
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Rainbow6 siege community would like to talk with you

faint skiff
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Well enjoy stewing in your ocean of piss then because you don't think anything should be tried because it's not 100% foolproof.

umbral reef
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Let me jump into your logic then
So even if the software blocks most things. Why do companies still resort to using IP bans over HWID bans?

torpid tree
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Imagine saying "Your welcome"

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😐

sterile ingot
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So you are going to explain πŸ˜›

faint skiff
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Their anti-cheat plus IP bans likely get almost everyone, so they don't bother with hardware ID bans. Who knows, why don't you go ask them?

umbral reef
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HWID bans are not effective
Ow shit, i forgot that actually means i am all for hacking and not at all for effective tools to punish users πŸ™‚

devout berry
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You know, I see only way - make the game "paid" by price of an auth token. Then you can ban that auth token from logging in.

faint skiff
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I'm sure they're not completely effective, but they aren't likely completely ineffectual. These are two different things.

torpid tree
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HWID and IP bans are pretty effective though.

devout berry
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In a way, "destroy a copy".

sterile ingot
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Not quite the explanation I thought. More like a claim.

cold talon
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bruh, just make it so that when the auto cheats detects a user cheating it detonates his pc, cant bypass that

torpid tree
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lmao

cold talon
umbral reef
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If someone can bypass an IP ban they can eat enough glue to bypass an HWID ban

torpid tree
sterile ingot
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Fair

indigo fern
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Why did you use discord quote when you weren't quoting anyone vrcThinking

devout berry
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Gtg.

sterile ingot
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I did mention only a dumb hacker wouldn't spoof it.

torpid tree
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Cya

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Quote function can be used to stylize text too, say if you're emphasizing something that could be used for it

umbral reef
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@indigo fern > could be used before quote... And as i used it way before the quote stuff got added its well uu janky

indigo fern
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Ohh, does > auto do that

torpid tree
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test

deft iron
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This server isn't the same without Jamie posting

indigo fern
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Yikes, don't like that, should turn that off immediately

umbral reef
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Its all about jamie dm's tho

indigo fern
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😏

deft iron
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I wanna slide into Jamie's DM

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Okay that came out wrong

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But you know what I mean

vocal shard
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you want to lewd talk with him in DMs ?

cold talon
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nono, we all know what you mean, its fine, we all do

vocal shard
umbral reef
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Just slide in softly fox

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Else you will scare the jamie

deft iron
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vrcJamieVatarga ❀️ ❀️

vocal shard
deft iron
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Yay it's Jamie the one and only. Now my day is complete

vocal shard
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O.O

ruby needle
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cirCop mine

vocal shard
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XD

torpid tree
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bruh

deft iron
torpid tree
deft iron
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Jamie's is just too adorable and irresistible

ruby needle
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And allready reserved cirREE

vocal shard
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I haven't done anything

barren igloo
vocal shard
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why haven't you done anything btw ?

grim canopy
cold talon
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well, jamie might have not done anything, but that does not say anything about what others have done to jamie vrcJamieVatarga

vocal shard
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πŸ‘€

grim canopy
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Wait @vocal shard Are you ok?

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no one hurts my cousin!!!

vocal shard
grim canopy
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jamie whats wrong?

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text or call if its personal

vocal shard
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I'm just joking around

grim canopy
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oh

cold talon
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sure he is

vocal shard
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eyes dart around

grim canopy
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anyways i was thinking why would people hate you when your so well loved..

vocal shard
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AkkoConfused nobody said hate

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I hate jamie

covert blade
grim canopy
cold talon
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wow

vocal shard
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I love you too svel NekoLove

thick rock
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Can i download Vr cHat without steam?

indigo fern
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Jamie sucks eggs

thick rock
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question

polar jasper
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You can get it on Oculus, so yeah

indigo fern
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But not as many eggs as Paul

vocal shard
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You can download vrchat on steam or oculus

covert blade
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@thick rock Steam and Oculus Store are the only two places you can download it from

deft iron
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Hating Jamie is a crime

grim canopy
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lol hey Nor...

cold talon
deft iron
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How daare u

indigo fern
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Lmao the tabs

polar jasper
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Hello Wishes.

cold talon
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i pay very good attention to minor details n8, thank you for noticing uwu

grim canopy
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my screen keeps going dark then light again hmm

vocal shard
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That's from blinking

cold talon
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oh wishes, its not random, its morse, he is trying to comunicate

grim canopy
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hmm

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ha ha ha very funny

vocal shard
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"download haxx"

torpid tree
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"Download PFHaxx"

vocal shard
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literally me
Bahka knows me too well

cold talon
torpid tree
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bruh

cold talon
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no legos allowed here

torpid tree
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A man has fallen for a man in lego city

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Build the relationship

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And get married in lego city

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Lego City (each box sold separately)

indigo fern
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lego city has gay marriages vrcThinking

broken plover
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A city has fallen in a man in lego hey

cold talon
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nice repost nico

broken plover
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a hey has fallen into a city in lego man

torpid tree
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A lego city has fallen into a man in river

willow kiln
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Hey

torpid tree
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Build the hey

broken plover
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A city has fallen into the city in lego HEY

torpid tree
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And rescue the lego city

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AnYoNe WaNnA sEe SoMe AvAtArS i MaDe

cold talon
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im getting "aww man" flashbacks :bahkascared:

torpid tree
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@cold talon πŸ”« wanna see

vocal shard
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no

torpid tree
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didnt ask u

cold talon
torpid tree
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Please 😭

humble vapor
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h

torpid tree
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bahka

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No

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unreact l and p

cold talon
humble vapor
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e

torpid tree
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😐

humble vapor
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y

torpid tree
cold talon
vocal shard
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ok how does trust levels work

torpid tree
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trust

cold talon
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they go up and down, just like stonks

torpid tree
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what

cold talon
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but they mainly go down

torpid tree
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no

cold talon
torpid tree
vocal shard
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they go up and down, just like stonks
@cold talon dead meme but good enough explanation

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ok better question, how even does it go up

cold talon
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you have to invest in the STONKS, by visiting worlds, sending/reciving friend requests, account age, and playtime, and making contint cough

torpid tree
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so... not making content vrpill

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hours of avatar making WASTED

indigo fern
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uploading contributes too

torpid tree
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k

indigo fern
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contint

torpid tree
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contint vrpill

cold talon
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receiving friend requests form trusted level users seems to be the fastest way, but also risky since if they unfriend you the stock price drops too, aka your rank

vocal shard
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sending/reciving friend requests
yeah pretty good challenge

grim canopy
torpid tree
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I’m new user vrcMimi

grim canopy
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Well Welcome @torpid tree

vocal shard
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i am literally user

torpid tree
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Cry

vocal shard
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like the registered thing with no ability

torpid tree
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Wut

vocal shard
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i do

torpid tree
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Green rank 😠

cold talon
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or, between you and me dirt,
comes closer
comes even closer
comes so close its just a couple of cm away form your face
you can use haxx
police sirens start
shit gtg!
πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈ

torpid tree
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Once I’m user I can make my avatar world public and not just for friends vrcFPaulSip

vocal shard
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i searched for vrchat hacks and now fbi is on me, thanks @cold talon

torpid tree
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Ok so we’re pinging people now when we talk? @vocal shard

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Ok @vocal shard

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😐

vocal shard
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yes everyone

torpid tree
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Ok @vocal shard

cold talon
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@torpid tree please dont ping the mods for non urgent matters

vocal shard
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So you can ping the devs for non urgent matters?

torpid tree
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I didn’t

cold talon
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vrcThinking you pinged dirt

vocal shard
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you don't ping the devs at all

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mods

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since they don't do any support here

torpid tree
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Dirt isn’t a mod

vocal shard
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^

cold talon
vocal shard
cold talon
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oh wb jamjam

vocal shard
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Hi hi

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blue jamie

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he joined us little peasants again

cold talon
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actually wasn't Jamie blue haired for a very short while?

torpid tree
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This scrafty rig I just made has his Mohawk go thru the player viewmodel

vocal shard
indigo fern
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nah that was the other jamie

torpid tree
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Cri

broken plover
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fake jamie?

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:O

cold talon
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not really fake, just another unit

vocal shard
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Jamie is a robot. There are other models
KomiShocked

cold talon
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we merely know this instance of jamie , but they are spread far and wide across the interwebs, ranging from myspace, youtube newgrounds to many more sites and servers, each a different unit, and each slightly diffrent.

torpid tree
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Miku miku dance more like

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Pika pika dance

vocal shard
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Gonna grab my can of paint again I guess

torpid tree
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kk

umbral reef
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Can we order our own jamie model?

vocal shard
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O.O

snow wadi
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@modern sand BBkiss

boreal kelp
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What was that ping for

molten gale
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Ruuubicks face looked kinda scary but after the kon was used, I cant unsee the slight owo the face contains

vocal shard
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I feel like vrchat's systel should work like VAC when it detects and injector/external script/client it should just stop it entirely

umbral reef
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Thats not how anti cheat works..

vocal shard
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it should woprk liek that tho

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somany hackers in csgo and vrchat

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vac needs better shit

umbral oracle
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Anyone ese having trouble logging in?

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it's taking a few minutes to get through the login screen

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very slow

vocal shard
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On the website at first, The game is fine

umbral oracle
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2020.02.16 10:46:07 Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Resetting game flow because "Photon connection in bad state: PeerCreated": [RejoinInstance, ShowUI]

vocal shard
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Yeah that's what the website kinda said

covert blade
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@vocal shard "It should work like that tho" yeah, ideally it should, but the reality isn't that simple

vocal shard
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ik

covert blade
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But anti-cheat doesn't please the investors I guess

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🍜 Does

vocal shard
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I want some actual 🍜 now

covert blade
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And many hackers in VRChat? I dunno where you hang out but I haven't seen many at all

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Might be because I generally don't go to the few places where they go all the time so I always manage to avoid them

vocal shard
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people say they are mostly in The Black Cat and The Room of The Rain

covert blade
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I pretty much never go to Room of Rain

vocal shard
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You’re not alone l0l

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Tbh instead of the team banning people, They should find a counter against the hack (until someone figures out how to crack it again)

covert blade
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You know that's not that simple

vocal shard
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I know, But I can dream

covert blade
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Even competitive oriented AAA games struggle with it
You can minimize it, but you can't really fully stop it

vocal shard
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I know that you cannot stop it, But at least make a patch to stop it for a small period of time.

covert blade
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Though, those games aren't free to play and do perm bans exclusively

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It'll be worked around after hours cirSlain

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I bet that even 2018 Unity will have mods very fast

vocal shard
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Yep.

covert blade
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But for as long as people can create new accounts, it's like

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Eh

vocal shard
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Viper was right this is basically CSGO

pseudo basalt
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Unlike csgo, you aren't forced into official matchmaking

covert blade
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^

vocal shard
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but instead of paying 20$ each time you get banned this game is free

pseudo basalt
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Just stay out of the more dangerous/popular instances and you'll be fine

covert blade
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Which is why there's a guy with like 200 accounts or something

polar jasper
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Don’t be an ass and you’ll be fine. Nothing to do with popular instances

vocal shard
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Phaxe

covert blade
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When it comes to people crashing you, it doesn't work like that

umbral reef
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Just detach from most users in the community who want to meet new people without being a power user

covert blade
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Legit seen a video just random crashing entire instances

vocal shard
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You could be a mute and people will still do something

umbral reef
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@polar jasper Room clapping is the new hot thing
Change a whole rooms avatar into a selfcrash in one fell swoop

covert blade
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And popular instances are target of such things more often than not because someone who just made a new alt account can join without friends

polar jasper
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I am well aware. But most of the cases that have come up, people haven’t really been the best

pseudo basalt
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It has nothing to do with who you are or what you do, people just go to popular instances one by one and crash everyone

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Until they get bored and go get upset at league of legends or something

umbral reef
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From the examples i have seen the past few weeks? That does not apply at all anymore
2 monthish ago? Yea you would be right in most cases but now people learned about avatar swapping again its zzz

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@pseudo basalt Or when they dont know how to reset there avatar after getting a crashed one...

covert blade
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If you don't have a VRC acc, that can be tricky

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Because then you can't just go to the website and reset it there

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At least I'm glad that I haven't had such issues yet

pseudo basalt
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Well considering the people who do this are dumb

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And have a 9mb avatar with a self crash on it just because meme tupper avatar, you can clear cache and just change avatar quickly half the time

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Without even ctrl+\

vocal shard
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I wish you could change your avatar on the website

pseudo basalt
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you can

polar jasper
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You can reset (to default), not change

vocal shard
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^

pseudo basalt
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What's the point if you're not online

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Just change it ingame

polar jasper
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From the RP side, I can see it be a good thing to swap before joining on a posted instance link

covert blade
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Well

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While that would be nice, you can just go to your home world first, swap to whatever you want, and then use the instance link from within VR via your preferred desktop view

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I have a speedloader world as my home world which is like 50kb

polar jasper
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You can yes.
I don't have a issue with it personally, as I've written my own and use the API to do what I want to do.

covert blade
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Ah, very fancy

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I load into my home world so quick that changing ingame isn't an issue, and using instance links while in VRChat works pretty well

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Yeah the game kind of restarts and I lose my calibration for full body but, that's a problem with instance links themselves

polar jasper
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It does, but the whole effect if getting the "{Logo} Next up.." isn't really that good looking

covert blade
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Hmm

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I mean that's more or less what ends up happening when I'm already ingame waiting for the Community Meetup link

polar jasper
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Yeah

covert blade
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It's also what happens when we run into problems during the meetup and need to regroup in the meetup world

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Not a very good way of doing it but, it works, so like, KromiaShrug

polar jasper
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It does, but wouldn't mind having it more streamlined

covert blade
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Agreed

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Like, copy shortlink params into clipboard, then ingame have a button to paste clipboard shortlink and join

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Β± or similar

polar jasper
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Or just have the site send a websocket request to your client and have either join automatically or when accepted

covert blade
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Or that

polar jasper
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I have this on my discord bot, so I can send !vrc inv {worldInfo}

covert blade
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I mean, ideally you are already logged in with the relevant account so should work like that

polar jasper
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Yup

crimson basin
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hello, i have a question because i want to go somewhere, how can i add friends in vrchat (with the pseudos)

devout berry
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@crimson basin Are they in the room with you?

crimson basin
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no

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what

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sorry i've just found it

devout berry
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Then open menu, click social and search for them.

crimson basin
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at the second

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the searching bar is not very different than the others

devout berry
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It is never different, but is tied to the open tab.

crimson basin
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ok

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thank's to your reply

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and sorry again for the annoying

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have a great day

devout berry
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No problem. English is not your primary language, I guess.

crimson basin
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yes

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i try to speak right but i need to learn

jagged fable
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vrchats bugging out for me, i reinstalled it 3 times, non of my avatars are showing, no worlds are showing and non of my friends are showing

vocal shard
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yeah, idk vrchat isn't even launching for me, so wondering is something is just down?

sterile ingot
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The number of users dropped below 10k, though not by much.

olive flume
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ive been having issues where it just sits at the loading screen with the spinning vrc icon

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and when i do get in i cant go to my social tab or avatar list

vocal shard
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mine is doing the same thing^

olive flume
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and the sdk is acting up too where when i log into it, it stays as signing in and when i do try to upload an avatar it just stays at preparing for upload forever. vrc is the big scuff today

timber pulsar
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yeah i have been having login issues

vocal shard
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i cant see anyone on my friends list or my fav and personal models

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took me a while to log on but nothing else loads

glass crow
#

Hi I joined the server just to check in on this actually. I'll toss my hat into the ring of "get stuck on loading screen then it crashes" The outage sites all say VRC is fine and their twitter is silent, so I thought it was just me until the mods approved me and I saw this

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Also hello

vocal shard
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ahh

deft girder
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Someone force switched you to a crash avatar log in on the website and on the avatars section reset back to default

vocal shard
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Even when I’m able to log in, which takes forever to do and half the time it times out, nothing loads. My friends list is empty, avatar list is empty and world list half the time is empty. This is the worst the game had ever performed for me

glass crow
#

You're not alone, I'm thinking the problem is on VRC's end.

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And it's a bummer. I get time to hang in VRC a couple times a year at most so 🀷 Sucks that today's a wash

jade charm
#

I’ve been pretty active all day and I’ve had zero issues regarding login times and the world browser and such.

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avatars, etc.

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Maybe you two are having connection issues?

vast current
#

Hm, VR Chat always takes a long time to load and things for me too, makes my computer slower, but I always assumed it was my computer since it's just a simple laptop

glass crow
#

I've done everything on VRC's troubleshooting list, reinstalled the game, uninstalled from Steam and installed on Oculus. Nothing has worked and my PC is above average

jade charm
#

Might be a connection issue, I’ve had zero issues regarding VRC

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@vast current maybe the specs of your laptop aren’t the best for VRC if it makes your entire laptop slow down.

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And take long to load ETC.

glass crow
#

Any tips for troubleshooting a connection issue then?

vast current
#

That's definitely what I'm thinking. Oh well, soon I hope to get a better laptop haha, are there any tips for possibly making it run a tad bit smoother? Because it does still run for me.

jade charm
#

Contact your ISP, restart your router, there’s often a multitude of reasons for connection issues that could be firewall related on your PC or much more @glass crow

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@vast current Try going to your graphics card settings (Nvidia panel for example) and turning down graphics quality, also look into disabling avatars that are β€œvery poor” etc.

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Some avatars can cause major slowdown due to particle effects and complexity etc.

vast current
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Thank you, I will definitely try this!

jade charm
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The main way you’re gonna see a performance increase is through a hardware upgrade though, especially regarding VR (if you’re using a VR setup) VR can be very taxing to low power machines and make it unplayable

vocal shard
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Remember that you can hold Shift when launching the game to change the graphics presets. By default it's on the highest

jade charm
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^ that too.

vocal shard
#

im on west coast USA and me, and my friends in that region are having the same issue.

jade charm
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None for me, strange.

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I only got off like, an hour or two ago too, so not too long.

olive flume
#

its a shame because i needed to test out some animations i was working on. guess i wont be able to until this issue is resolved

fading finch
#

Does anybody remember the song from this world. The world was called the "Anti Krew HQ" They used to have a bunch of deadmau5 looking characters and they used to have one with a megaphone that would play this Joji song. I don't remember the name of the song. I was hoping maybe someone knew the song. It seems like the world still exists but the deadmau5 characters are all gone. I'm just trying to figure out what joji song it was.

jade charm
#

Do you remember the Lyrics?

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I can get ya it, I own Ballads 1 on Vinyl @fading finch

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Let me just...

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Press my emergency run button.

ruby needle
#

Dont worry... Sometimes my chat decides not to scroll. cirBaka

jade charm
ruby needle
glass crow
#

Okay so I signed in with Oculus but my name doesn't match my Oculus account. Does anyone know how to fix this?

ruby needle
#

generally doesn't match? or has some random number/letters in the end

#

the latter one is normal

#

It's highly recommendet to use a VRChat account.

glass crow
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Generally doesn't.

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And I can't log into my vrc account for whatever reason

ruby needle
#

What's the problem?

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Crashing uppon the world loading?

fading finch
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@jade charm is that where the song came from?

jade charm
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Ballads 1 is one of his albums (but lets leave it at that because the mod is watching us, vrc discussion or we die) vrcFPaulSip

glass crow
#

The problem with my VRC account is that I changed the name a few days ago and now it gives me "Invalid username or password" for both my new and old names

shell narwhal
#

What is the minimum graphics card needed to play VR chat with VR?

fading finch
#

oh

ruby needle
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1060 6gb version would be a good base

jade charm
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2060 if you want a decent VR Card with the latest support, from the newest nvidia line

shell narwhal
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i ask because the computer i bought has a 1650, which stated it was VR ready, however a few people have told me i will not be able to run it at all with a 1650

ruby needle
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1650 should be fine isnt it?

jade charm
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My first VR setup was with a 1060, you’re good.

shell narwhal
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Well the thing is, i assumed, since the requirements are at least a 980 GTX, i thought 1650 was higher than a 980

ruby needle
#

Oh, it is worse then a 1060 cirSlain

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The new series namescheme is so fucking awfull cirSlain

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slightly better then a 1050ti, so yeah absolute minimum

shell narwhal
#

so i should be able to run VR at the very least

ruby needle
#

you should be able to run it yes.

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but it'll not be the greatest, tho there is people with a 1050ti out there.

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it should at least work.

shell narwhal
#

so what exactly is it that makes it worse with a lower grade Graphics card? becasue it runs fine withought VR

jade charm
#

It’s weird how Graphics card naming goes regarding vidia

glass crow
#

should I open another ticket then?

jade charm
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@shell narwhal Less Power and processing, Less vram etc

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Nvidia naming goes with the first two numbers being the series and the second two numbers being the cards in increments of how powerful they are

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its weird

ruby needle
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nvidia's naming was super consistent till 1xxx gen, then the RTX crap and now even super and what not started. cirLaugh

shell narwhal
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@jade charm from what iv been told, the naming is based on the numbers for example, my 1650, the 16 is the generation of card and the 50 is its power, 80 being the highest lower being 50 atleast from what i was told

jade charm
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Yeppers.

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that’s it.

shell narwhal
#

well, what issues should i expect to happen with VR then?

jade charm
#

Well, a 1065 should be okay

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If your CPU and Ram are sufficient too

shell narwhal
#

*1650

jade charm
#

Yeah, my mistake

#

But, they should be fine, if your cpu and ram are too.

shell narwhal
#

and yea, everything else is above and beyond, its just my graphics card

jade charm
#

Obviously it won’t be as smooth as a more powerful card, but it’ll be useable

wet sluice
#

I've seen the game run at 45fps on a laptop with a gtx 1050, 7700hq, and odyssey+. In vrlow, but with very poor shown. The only thing that caused problems was my brother's friend who had an avatar with like 80mats and 400k poly.

shell narwhal
#

smooth as in itll be jerky while using VR?

jade charm
#

With VR, you should be aiming for FPS’s of 90+

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Most headsets have atleast a refresh rate of 90

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some higher, vive for example has 90

ruby needle
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you aint getting that in filed lobbies tho

wet sluice
#

took a fair bit of tuning though.

jade charm
#

Yeah.

shell narwhal
#

what about oculus rift s?

wet sluice
#

Yea, you'll never get 90 even on a high end rig, unless you play on beta (and have oodles of ram >24GB)

rancid flame
#

In vrchat I'm happy getting 20+ fps

jade charm
#

But, in regards to general VR, you should be aiming for atleast 90 for a smooth experience

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Lower can cause sickness and such

shell narwhal
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@wet sluice well i have 32 gb of ram so i think ill be fine for ram related stuff

jade charm
#

What about your cpu?

shell narwhal
#

uh how would i check that specificly

rancid flame
#

I'm pretty sure it's ram that saves you from crashing

wet sluice
#

I would assume the ram issue will be fixed eventually for beta, though it runs butter smooth if you have the ram

jade charm
#

You can check via programs such as spec y

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*speccy

rancid flame
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As I've never crashed with my 32 gb of ram despite my mediocre specs

shell narwhal
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alright one sec

wet sluice
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just open task manager and check performance tab

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cpu name in the top right when selected

shell narwhal
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz

jade charm
#

Yeah, that’s fine

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Mainly you just gotta look into a better card if you want the best performance

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But, your other specs are totally okay

shell narwhal
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on a laptop xD

wet sluice
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stay plugged in and ensure airflow

jade charm
#

Oops, Laptop Card then.

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They exist.

shell narwhal
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couldnt upgrade the card if i wanted, let alone afford it

wet sluice
#

you'll just have to hide very poors and accept that you'll always be around 45fps (it reprojects to 90, so you won't be nauseous at least)

#

laptops... just kinda suck for vr vrcSad

jade charm
#

^

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Desktops will always be the best options for VR

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Issue is just that they arent portable.

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Which sucks.

copper gulch
#

I'm on a laptop right now though and I'm doing fine

shell narwhal
#

which is why i tend to stick with laptops because of the portability

wet sluice
#

good for you, if you're wealthy or bad with money then laptops can do just fine

timber pulsar
#

yo is vrc back up? is anyone having major issues?

shell narwhal
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im sitting in vrchat now idling

timber pulsar
#

ah

copper gulch
#

I'm still having issues with VRC idling

timber pulsar
#

k

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ima check myself

wet sluice
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Duh, you're on a laptop (/s)

copper gulch
#

Welp, to MCC I guess in replacement for VRC

jade charm
#

See ya

shell narwhal
#

so my main question is, when a VR headset isn't hooked up, i have pretty good frame rate, ect, so what's the difference between that and using a headset?

timber pulsar
#

F. its still broken atm

shell narwhal
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it should be the same shouldnt it?

jade charm
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@shell narwhal you’re streaming to a second screen inside your HMD

rancid flame
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Well a vr hmd renders 2 displays at a higher resolution and fps

jade charm
#

That means you’re basically running a multi screen setuo

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*setup.

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hence why your HMD uses a HDMI slot

shell narwhal
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i get that, but shouldn't it run just as smooth as the computer dose with out it being hooked up?

jade charm
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No, it uses more power.

shell narwhal
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oh rip

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well, long story short, it wont be the best experience, but i should be able to run VR games at the very least right?

jade charm
#

If VR headsets didn’t take as much power we’d all just be using sub-par laptops strapped to our backs for full movement wireless vr chat

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you should be fine, don’t worry

wet sluice
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It renders 3.33x more pixels than a 1080p60 display

shell narwhal
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oh damn

wet sluice
#

With lower latency requirements and with a tracking algorithm tacking up more cpu time.

shell narwhal
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(also i do appreciate everyone's help and input, its greatly appreciated)

jade charm
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Most of the time, I find that overthinking about if my device is gonna run something doesn’t help, usually its fine.

shell narwhal
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well, what would be a good option for vr then? currently im looking twardds the oculus rift s

wet sluice
#

If you're laptop isn't enormous (ie massive heatsink), then you'll need to take extra precautions to reduce overheating

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Do you have displayport output?

shell narwhal
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you mean an HDMI port?

wet sluice
#

no

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dp on right, hdmi on left

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You cannot go from HDMI->DP

shell narwhal
#

uh lemme check

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rip i do not

wet sluice
#

what about a type-c port? Open the nvidia control panel and go to the "configure surround, physx" page if you do

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You'll need the usb type-c port symbol to be ontop of the GeForce GTX 1650 section

jagged fable
#

VrChat keeps making people cute in and out on their talking

wet sluice
#

If it is not there, your only option is the Oculus Rift (not Rift S) and Odyssey+. The two HDMI based VR HMDs

shell narwhal
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ok so what im seeing is, PhysX box, Geforce GTX 1650 on the left, and Intel UHD Graphics on the right, with a laptop display of the intel one

dreamy saddle
#

🀑 's

jade charm
#

Vive is HDMI

wet sluice
#

Where is the symbol for the type C port?

shell narwhal
#

i dont see anything that says type c

wet sluice
#

It won't say it, it's just a symbol

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the oval

shell narwhal
#

you alright if i just call you and screen share?

wet sluice
#

sure

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og vive is garbage

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Not even worth mentioning lol

jade charm
#

Still useable

harsh star
#

I use og vive because my laptop (yeah, laptop right?) doesn't use display port.

lunar shell
#

OG Vive is not garbage. Perfectly usable especially with super sampling. Having wireless can make it a good headset especially if you move around a lot.

vocal shard
#

i need help

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i dont have a my creations tab

jagged fable
#

Anyone know whays going on with vrchat right now?

jade charm
#

Apparently some people are having problems, might be resolved soon.

jagged fable
#

Its bugging out for me

jade charm
#

I can’t tell on my end, it was working fine when I was playing last.

jagged fable
#

It was working fine eairly but now everyone keeps cutting out and i keep crashing

jade charm
#

I wouldn’t think crashing is a part of the issue

#

Have you tried clearing your vrchat cache

jagged fable
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Ya i have 0.00

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But yet i keep disconnecting

jade charm
#

Try reinstalling VRChat

jagged fable
#

Ill try

vocal shard
#

@ancient hedge why?

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Just got blocked muted and unfriended for no fuckign reason

sharp heron
#

I keep getting kicked from my home world, sent back to VRChat Home.

jade charm
#

Elaborate? The Default home? @sharp heron

sharp heron
#

The game will not allow me to join the world I made as my home world. It sends me to VRChat's default Home.

#

I have Cafe' Summer Sky as my home world. The game loads it, then it's like it fails to join and reverts me to VRChat Home.

jade charm
#

Clear cache and rejoin so it redownloads the world?

sharp heron
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I have tried that.

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It has been working fine for a few days, and now it's acting up.

jade charm
#

can you actually join it normally, but going home bugs it and sends you to the default home?

sudden dagger
#

@sharp heron same thing happened to me. And I was stuck on the loading screen for like 5 minutes

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Seems like it's happening to numerous people tonight

sharp heron
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Tried to join it normally. The game seems to detect it as a home. It loads it, but when it prepares to put me into the world, it suddenly loads VRChat Home instead.

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I haven't had any instances of being stuck on the loading screen for 5 minutes though.

jade charm
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Probably another issue with whats been happening tonight

#

People have been having connection issues left right and centre, they should be fixed soon

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Guess all you can do is wait it out

sharp heron
#

Fair enough. Just confused why I haven't seen any other reports coming in (as they usually happen when something like this happens).

jade charm
#

They’ve been pouring in all night from people complaining from being kicked from VRChat after joining another world, sign in issues, no avatars showing up etc.

woeful ember
#

oh so these problems are happening to everyone

signal sequoia
#

When is Unity 2018.4 moving from Open Beta to Release? (are they aiming for a specific date?)

#

I've already moved my avatar to v2018

vocal shard
#

Nobody knows yet @signal sequoia

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The team are mainly just waiting on Unity to update something on their end

wet sluice
#

Haven't seen you in a while hystero

#

@vocal shard if you want to point fingers, look no further than Oculus (and the Quest)

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It's way better in the beta though, so it won't be like this forever

vocal shard
#

Network IK was planned and briefly tested before the quest was even announced. It was just implemented quicker than initially planned due to the quest

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5 years later

#

Wasn't hackspanner one of the main dev working on it?

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

wet sluice
#

If you mean the actual IK algorithm, that's provided by FinalIK. Calibration and height is on the Vrchat side though.

#

Hi

wide mural
#

Hello

slate verge
#

you know you have a forbidden pfp

cold talon
#

:banhammer:

brave geyser
#

Is it bad if I see nuisance rank as a trophy

cold talon
#

Post that in one more channel and you'll get nuisance from me

brave geyser
#

Make me

cold talon
pale timber
#

o

grim canopy
cold talon
#

:extremecloseupofeye:

#

Close enough aria

wet sluice
#

ye

scarlet obsidian
#

i think someone just changed my avatar to one that crashes me upon loading

#

what do i do

pseudo basalt
#

If you have a vrchat account, log into the website and in the avatars section reset your avatar

scarlet obsidian
#

thx

#

how does that even happen

vocal shard
#

Uninstall vrchat so you can escape that weeb hell and make your own company

pseudo basalt
#

Client users

blissful tinsel
#

does anybody know a map where you could get spiderman sitting in a wheelchair?

hollow sluice
#

@pseudo basalt actually its called "modded clients or hacked clients" technically every person is using a client

#

I will now jump off a bridge

pseudo basalt
#

If you want to get super pedantic, you're not actually modifying your client, you're using a third party mod loader to inject code into memory

#

That then allows you to load other stuff

vocal shard
#

if only you knew how bad things really are

cold talon
#

Yo svel, Pease don't spread misinformation vrcPerfVeryPoor

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@vocal shard

wet sluice
#

πŸ”¨

vocal shard
#

πŸ“

cold talon
#

Pong 200ms

faint skiff
#

The modded "clients" are normally just using the public API so you can probably just use that to change someone's avatar, it's quite funny because it accepts a lot of things it doesn't. e.g. you can just change the IDs in the API call and do things you'd expect not to work, e.g. I could create a public link to (someone elses') private world and also create the session in someone else's name. Not sure why it's like that.

pseudo basalt
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It would have probably been fixed without a client update if it was just the api

faint skiff
#

That or the official client relies on the inherent broken/openness of the API to function, and thus fixing the API would break everything else.

pseudo basalt
#

Don't think it accepts as much anymore

#

Some sort of login token would be a common security practice

#

I think it's just that it tells the server that you requested it

faint skiff
#

It does use a login token, it just still doesn't do any sanity checks and lets you do it anyway.

#

You can also query the API for private or hidden worlds, which you'd obviously not expect to be able to look up, given the name.

pseudo basalt
#

Well wouldn't you be able to just change other people's avatars with external tools

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If all you need is to query the api

cold talon
#

πŸ‘€

covert blade
faint skiff
#

Huh yeah, that would be a real problem, just being able to change other people's avatars. Good job that isn't happening at all, on a frequent basis.

covert blade
vocal shard
#

You could change them to a self crashing avatar and people without a vrchat account wouldn't be able to switch off of it

#

Really glad that it's actually secure

cold talon
#

wooow guys all the misinformation, pleeasee

vocal shard
#

πŸͺ“

pseudo basalt
#

It's happening ingame tho

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If you could do it outside then it would much easier to do en masse and harder to report

vocal shard
#

Fake news

pseudo basalt
faint skiff
#

It's more that you need to know the IDs of the players and places to use it, thus the people doing it are in-game.

devout berry
#

I think, they should log the API calls and ban IPs that do malucious requests.

vocal shard
#

Hi

hasty rune
#

AYYYEEEE

bronze raptor
#

Im on the rift s. and my gestures on my avatar is playing when im not even touching the controller. Is that normal? its pretty annoying since some of my avatars has some messy gestures...

vocal shard
#

yes

mint pewter
#

ffs it's been 2 weeks now, is it really so difficult to fix people force changing others avatars @covert chasm

vocal shard
#

why do you ping tupper ? he is not a dev xd

mint pewter
#

Ill let you think about that one

vocal shard
#

you should be the one to think actually

pseudo basalt
#

Taking one for the team πŸ™πŸ»

vocal shard
#

what do you think pinging tupper will do to help it go faster ?
exactly, nothing smooth brain

pseudo basalt
#

fix ur game devs ffs

#

there we go

vocal shard
#

Jokes aside...

#

Unity 2018 update when?

#

It's been quite a long time since the last actual update

#

Can't find anything about that

#

Maybe i didn't look hard enough...

#

πŸ˜”

covert blade
#

@vocal shard There is no release date

timber pulsar
#

and i still cant log in to vrc

vocal shard
#

Understandable i guess.

vocal shard
#

Djay? Whats the problem?

surreal escarp
#

I've been playing VRCHAT recently, and its super cool, but nobody can hear me? I through everybody was ignoring me at first, but then this girl took me to a room with a keyboard in and we typed messages to each other and it turns out my mic doesn't work in vrchat 😦

sterile ingot
#

Try recording something on your voice recorder to test it and get it working.

#

What kind of mic are you using?

surreal escarp
#

just the windows 10 voice recorder? I have a built-in mic and a mic attached to my earphones I can use also

twin fractal
#

your desktop user?

sterile ingot
#

Yes, with the win10 recorder. Make sure you're using the right mic there, then when you go to your VRC settings make sure the correct mic is chosen there too.

twin fractal
#

make sure that you have the right input selected in settings and that you're pushing to talk

surreal escarp
#

I tested the built-in as well as my earphone mic. The built in sounds fine, the earphone one sounds a bit crackly if I hold it really close to my mouth, but decent if its further away.

#

I'm worried it's a bandwith issue, but that doesn't make sense if Skype, Discord etc all work fine

twin fractal
#

so the mics work? and it's just vrchat?

surreal escarp
#

Yeah. Is VRchat particularly demanding on wifi? I've tried to avoid rooms with more than 100 players to reduce lag.

twin fractal
#

no not really

#

you're pressing V to turn on the mic right?

surreal escarp
#

Yes holding v

#

Other players can hear me, they just tell me I sound like crap

#

and they cant understand me

twin fractal
#

oooh

surreal escarp
#

I work in IT so I feel dumb not being able to figure it out.

vocal shard
#

Ever been to the. Void Club???

#

no never

#

ive heard bad things about that place

brisk bone
#

Well, it doesn't matter. Nothing matters.

pseudo basalt
#

that's just fez

twin fractal
#

Fez moment

slate verge
#

void club lmao

pseudo basalt
#

avoid club vrcAevSip

olive flume
#

i think they should make it so people cant breakl the limits of joining worlds

#

if a world is only 27 people. keep it at 27 and not let anyone else enter said world instance

tardy crag
#

I think nude avatars should be illegal especially for streamers just trying to make some new friends

#

Btw hello peoples

vocal shard
#

They aren't allowed. Nude avatars can lead to getting banned

tardy crag
#

Oh I've been seeing them way too much lately

devout berry
#

Couldn't we add something like YT or others, that detect if there is too much of skin, or make something that checks if unwanted parts are exposed (torso, crotch, ...)?

tardy crag
#

Like I'm almost scared to stream vrc anymore cause of the nudies in public lobbies

sterile ingot
#

All sorts of obscene shit that can't be unseen, unfortunately.

vocal shard
#

Most 'nude' that's acceptable is barbie/ken doll

devout berry
#

When you make humanoid rig, it shouldn't be hard to implement texture check in selected areas based on rig.

sterile ingot
#

Fortunately I'm an adult and can handle it, for kids it's not cool.

tardy crag
#

I'm dont care about the nude avatars like I'm old enough now but I just dont wanna get banned on twitch

sterile ingot
#

Private rooms

vocal shard
#

Not even just twitch, There are more and more children coming on VRChat now

devout berry
#

Few hours back I read someone has melody model. Probably that person now roams VRChat with it.

#

πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

sterile ingot
#

There are so many kids in there, and they ask.

#

One asked me yesterday about worst thing we've seen on VR chat, and I couldn't answer him.

devout berry
#

@sterile ingot Tell them, that the crashers are worst.

sterile ingot
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Well he told us about seeing some dude killing himself with a shotgun.

vocal shard
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wtf

tardy crag
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Yeah vrc needs to limit the avatars a bit

devout berry
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?!

sterile ingot
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Kids are seeing this shit.

devout berry
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Easy fix - no custom emotes. Just those from the staff.

sterile ingot
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He said they had put it up on the YouTube thing.

vocal shard
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Most likely their parents don't care

sterile ingot
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Which means it was on YouTube.

devout berry
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Let's go paranoid! 🀣

vocal shard
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Worst thing i saw on VRChat is when I started

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when people used screenspace shaders of pictures of gore etc

devout berry
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Oh, that S*IT!

tardy crag
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I dunno, if theres a way to filter it somehow then please for the love of god tell me how, I would hate to get everything I worked for banned just bc of an avatar

sterile ingot
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I've seen some shit on those YouTube screens as well.

vocal shard
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hi

sterile ingot
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The audio doesn't work for me, though I'd like to disable them.

devout berry
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@tardy crag Idk how. Maybe don't stream, but record and edit out.

indigo fern
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Well, it's not a YouTube player, in vrc you can play a lot of different videos

vocal shard
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Yet vrchat allows gross underwear avatars and yet we cannot use pepe and mac2nite/moon man

devout berry
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Frog ban! 🀣

indigo fern
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Whoa people wearing undies, scandalous

sterile ingot
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That does seem kinda silly, though it's their platform their rules.

vocal shard
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Really @indigo fern lol

tardy crag
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its an option, dunno how that will hold up especially with the youtube vrc hackers (referencing to naddition)

indigo fern
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Don't even show those ankles

tardy crag
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it just seems like youtube doesnt give a flying fuck when it comes to that kind of stuff

sterile ingot
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You know what you are getting into to- or don't because you don't bother to read the terms and get banned doing something pretty stupid anyways. Of all the hills to die on.

vocal shard
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yeah because it's covered with tattoos

sterile ingot
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I bet YouTube catches it, just takes a while.

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How many hours are uploaded a day?

vocal shard
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Youtube will just demonetise it @sterile ingot

sterile ingot
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300 hours every minute.
300x60 minutes of every hour x 24 hours of every day. 432000

vocal shard
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at least 2

tardy crag
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jesus christ

sterile ingot
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Mmmmmmmm, Pi

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Pi day is coming soon! 3/14 Go out and enjoy some pizza, it's likely on sale (And maybe appreciate some math).

vocal shard
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πŸ€”

static crow
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uhh why did i de rank from trusted to known? i've been trusted for 2 months now and ever since i just got more friends, made more avatars and played a ton more

vocal shard
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I feel like we couldn't trust you so I just dropped your rank

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play more and you'll get it back

static crow
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srsly tho xd

devout berry
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@static crow Have anyone blocked you? There are malicious mass blocks to derank people.

static crow
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nope not really

vocal shard
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Can't give trusted rank to everyone
it's a special rank for truly the very best

pseudo basalt
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like me

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i am trusted

devout berry
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So it is timed? As if you take a break, you derank?

vocal shard
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you are very special

static crow
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aaaaand i just got it back

pseudo basalt
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thank you

static crow
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shrugs

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prolly a bug idk

brisk bone
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That's really weird.

jade charm
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I’m guessing the way to get trusted is to continue to create and develop high quality things, worlds and avatars.

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Which won’t be too much trouble for me.

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As soon as I get new user, I’m dropping mainly out of playing and straight into generating content.

devout berry
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Do avatars first because worlds are available from user up. New user have only avatars.

jade charm
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Ah, Well that’s not a problem.

devout berry
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If you can do it good, you can start even before you can upload and do commissions.

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If you like 3D, it is nice way to make some moolah I think.

jade charm
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I’d rather prove myself and my quality by releasing some free avatars, then I’ll start taking commissions right afterwards.

devout berry
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I will try my hand on modeling after I get my lingebra exam done. Got ZBrush Core back with my graphic tablet, so sculpting should be easier, than in blender.

jade charm
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I’ll have to take a deeper look at the SDK as soon as I get my permissions, it kinda upset me how you have to be a certain rank to be able to contribute but I can see why it’s in place, I just wish there was a way to get permissions to upload without actually playing, I’m not too big on playing VRChat but totally into generating content for others, if that makes sense.

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The last platform I created content for me netted me around 3.6K members on my discord server, that I’d like to turn into a server for my VRChat Content, I’m more used to creating things than actually playing other peoples things.

devout berry
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Also try doing some art in Krita, because when you can do your own character sheets for reference, it is easier to model original models.

jade charm
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My biggest thing I’ll have to learn is correctly rigging models, I’m not the greatest at rigging but I’ll have to improve to provide more.

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But I usually get stuck into it and crank out some interesting things.

devout berry
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Which type of models you want to do? Humanoids?

jade charm
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Anything that my imagination provides

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Humanoids, Weird Interesting Avatars, anything really.

devout berry
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For humanoids, there are some prefab rigs available - just strech the bones and place them.

jade charm
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Yeah, that’s true, but a prefab rig won’t help if I do anything other than humanoids, so I’ll eventually have to learn to rig from scratch

devout berry
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Yep.

jade charm
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I’ve made rigs in the past, but they weren’t the best honestly.

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That’s something I’ll improve on in time.

devout berry
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Or maybe delete some bones from the humanoid and use the rest in unusual way.

jade charm
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Could do that, I’ll always get my way around it, I have some pretty interesting ideas in store.

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Just gotta hang out until I get my perms

gritty island
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Is there something preventing worlds from being uploaded at the moment? I don't see anything in announcements/server status or anything.

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Oh my god, Im so dumb, nevermind

vocal shard
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how should we know if it wasn't announced ? xd

devout berry
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There is a lot of connection problems that are not announced, because of them being regional - many times people complain and my connection is OK.

bright widget
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my friend just got into the discord he ca't see all channels and everything is that normal?

vocal shard
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tell him to read his DM from vrcbot

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^

warped creek
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When someone in a public Black Cat just casually walks to you and nicely asks if you have crasher avatars.

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WTF is wrong with people these days.

brisk bone
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I mean that's been normal behaviour for a very long time.

warped creek
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First time happened to me and I have like 900 hours in this game. And that person was already wearing a crasher avatar and was a visitor with Steam account.vrpill

vocal shard
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do you have a crasher avatar ?

cold talon
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mayhaps

gaunt scaffold
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vrc is infested with skids ...

vocal shard
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Ok

brisk bone
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The sky is blue

covert blade
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Water is wet

gaunt scaffold
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all solid facts

deft iron
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Oh no, is jamie not online today

slender otter
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Water isn't wet

cunning terrace
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Not sure how to get ahold of the people who run this. But there seems that there is a post going around saying vrchat is to shut down next month.

slender otter
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Probably not

brisk bone
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So random.

umbral reef
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Ow that is as true as me being a bilionare

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Hint: Im not one

ruby needle
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@cunning terrace where did you hear that from?

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Definitely not true, but you ain't the first one who has seen/heard such thing.

viral hill
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theres so many things going around rn like people in some servers im in saying people are being banned for having playspacemover

cunning terrace
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Friend from another server just posted the picture.

vocal shard
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Never believe everything you hear in VRChat or your best friends

umbral reef
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@viral hill Thats also fake news

viral hill
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yeah i know its just annoying to hear lol

cunning terrace
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Just thought I would check. Also let people know.

covert blade
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"let people know"

dark elk
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i saw the picture too

covert blade
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Spreading misinformation is against the rules isn't it?

sterile ingot
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Do your own research. Believe nothing offhand. We love our friends, though sometimes they see a vastly different world than our own.

dark elk
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so its 100% fake?

covert blade
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Ofc it is

dark elk
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πŸ‘Œ

viral hill
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Its so easy to spread misinformation and lies, like look: Sasha isn’t a 100% cutie

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big lie right there

brisk bone
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WTF I knew something was wrong with Sasha

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Damn it I need to tell everyone else now

covert blade
wet sluice
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Yea. That's fo sho.

molten gale
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I exist

winged igloo
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woah

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nice

molten gale
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I finally took some pictures again

wet sluice
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Hej

molten gale
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Since I finished my by far most difficult models today

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I had the motivation

fast marsh
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@molten gale Nice

wet sluice
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Getting the new outfits on firina?

molten gale
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One of them is a new firina outfit

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Well not new

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I combined parts from 4 different outfits to make a really cool one

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Thats why it was hard to make

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Ill send pics later

wet sluice
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Can't wait to see it. I'm going back to sleep now. I'll be up in like 3.5hrs again :p

molten gale
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Ill start postingg in the next 20 mons

surreal escarp
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Is there a way to make vrchat run faster?

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Especially on a low-grade laptop?

gleaming tulip
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stop pretending laptops are "gaming rigs" helps

fluid ether
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Any of yall trynna vibe?

tight gyro
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ok hisoka

slate verge
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@surreal escarp nope sorry

fluid ether
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Lmao @tight gyro it be like that sometimes

olive flume
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alot of us can only afford low grade laptops for vrc. my dell laptop has an intel core i3 7th gen processor and it runs the game like shit but my hp has a ryzen 5 processor and runs it better but still dies when theres an instance that is suppose to only have 18 people but it has 40 instead

crimson pier
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:(

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the normal flow is

  1. buy better pc
  2. buy vr set
    otherwise pc bottlenecks everything and it /hurts/
turbid lotus
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i have 30 hours on vr chat and i still cant upload my model what the heck

vocal shard
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Does anyone know how I can contact the author of Mids avatar world? I kind of want to request a customized Meliodas.

obsidian ravine
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@turbid lotus It's not based strictly on hour counts. To upload your own content you have to be using a VRChat account and have a trust rank of New User or higher. You get that by making friends and hanging out in public worlds, and avoiding being muted/blocked/kicked.

vocal shard
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Is anyone else having issues using gestures and using the right touchpad on WMR? I've tried a lot of the community bindings but my right hand still won't do gestures or move left and right most of the time

mental shuttle
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A friend told me he benefitted from using more than 16 GB RAM when it comes to VRC. From my understanding you don't really need more than 16 for anything when it comes to gaming today. Why would it help with VRC? Opinions on this?

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I also wonder how good your CPU/GPU can be before it stops mattering for VRC.

rough pulsar
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VRC isn't much like regular games as 95% of the content is user-made and a fair chunk of that isn't optimized, unlike in regular games.

mental shuttle
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Yeah that I've come to realize. So at a point the lag is unavoidable, also depends on the ping ofc.

rough pulsar
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Networking and framerate are barely linked

rancid flame
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ram helps with not crashing due to the crasher avatars

rough pulsar
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Just a lot of people use lag interchangably to refer both to network latency, and low framerates.

mental shuttle
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When I say lag I just mean... lag, regardless of the reason for it.

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I hardly ever crash. I would want to minimize lag as much as possible.

rough pulsar
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network-related lag and framerate-lag have very different causes, hence the need to differentiate them.

mental shuttle
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well both then...

rancid flame
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lag is for client fps lag, latency is for network

hollow ingot
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Highest Single-Core performance... Go!

vocal shard
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@mental shuttle just got a RAM upgrade from 8GB to 16GB today and I haven't had VRChat crash since. It used to crash all the time

mental shuttle
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It would make sense that someone has figured out when specs stop mattering.

rough pulsar
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Never.

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It just makes things better.

mental shuttle
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@vocal shard well to have 8 even a few years ago was... very bad...

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but that's good for you

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Never what?

rough pulsar
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Except when it comes to multicore CPUs, as VRC doesn't make extensive use of multithreading. It does, but not in a way it can currently parallelize massive amounts of the workload.

rancid flame
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it will be making better use of multicore cpus in the 2018 update though

rough pulsar
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For example, my i7 6820HL and my Ryzen Threadripper 1950x both run VRChat on a Vive Pro at equivalent framerates.

mental shuttle
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Well of course I have a multicore. But you can't answer my question then?

rough pulsar
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I'm saying it's not a question with a simple answer.

mental shuttle
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It should be... but ok thanks for the info anyway. I feel like someone must know.

rancid flame
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well with vrchat specs never really stop mattering because everything is so unoptimized

mental shuttle
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oh that's what you said never to...

rough pulsar
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Like I said, outside of massive amounts of CPU cores/threads, better perf hardware means better perf in VRC,

mental shuttle
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so specs will always matter for VRC?

rough pulsar
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yes

mental shuttle
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just less the better stuff you get Im guessing

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well then you did have an answer. but I'd like to hear it from more people to feel confident it's true

crimson pier
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the better the better

mental shuttle
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at least I heard that CPU matters the most

rough pulsar
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Single-core speed/performance mainly, yes.

covert blade
crimson pier
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ye cpu is bigger concern

rough pulsar
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And I've run VRC on 3 different PCs, each better than the last and in most cases it runs better on each one as they got better.

mental shuttle
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so then having 32 GB RAM would make a difference?

rough pulsar
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Yup.

mental shuttle
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with lag I mean

vocal shard
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[Alerting] ICMP latency/loss to Photon servers alert
when all the banned modders start ddosing vrchat servers?

rancid flame
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you will notice that things loading in are smoother and if someone brings in a crash avatar you wont crash

mental shuttle
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my friend seems to think he lags less thanks to it

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could you tell me a CPU/GPU that would be well enough for VRC at this point?

rough pulsar
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Both RAM and VRAM help if you're a mirror squatter since mirrors use a lot.

mental shuttle
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I upgraded my CPU not long ago and will upgrade my GPU soon

vocal shard
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ry5 3600x and 1080ti is probably good enough?

rough pulsar
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GTX 980 and above

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Maybe 980Ti

cold verge
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if you run out of Vram, the pc start to use RAM, and if your RAM runs out you are pretty much down to 9fps

mental shuttle
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980 is equivalent to 1080?

rough pulsar
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Not at all

crimson pier
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depends on the crasher. ive heard ppl with 64gb ram+ still crash

mental shuttle
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I'm looking to buy RTX 2060 in a couple of months

rancid flame
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I have 32 gb of ram and the laughing avatar doesnt crash me

crimson pier
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reasonable card

rough pulsar
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]With Nvidia cards the first (in 3 digit card models, first two in 4 digit cards) is gthe generation number, second is perf class (8 is highest) and third is Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

crimson pier
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great card, great price

rough pulsar
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A RTX 2060 should be fine

mental shuttle
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well Im not buying it new, that's way too expensive haha. but ok

rough pulsar
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Do you plan to use VR and if so what HMD?

smoky cedar
mental shuttle
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Im never in VRC without VR

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I'm not new to VRC. I got an Oculus Rift, with Kinect

crimson pier
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im running a rtx 2070 super, and its kinda pricey for performance, so you might be better off with a 2060 price wise

mental shuttle
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Im also gonna get Super

rancid flame
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the kinect uses a lot of cpu also

mental shuttle
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"ROG Strix Gaming OC" or "Dual EVO OC" Im confused by all the different names but after a lot of research I've landed on these

crimson pier
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depends on budget really. if you got the money then get a 2080ti and flex on everyone 😎

opaque hawk
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Congrats Nekotaku, pc upgrades are super exciting

rancid flame
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it will be best to wait until amd and nvidia release their new cards this year

mental shuttle
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haha

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oh yeah... another friend told me I should do that. thus these will drop in price ye?

rancid flame
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yep

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or you can get a better card for the same price

mental shuttle
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do we have any estimate on when they will release?

rancid flame
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no

mental shuttle
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or at least when we'll know when they'll release

rough pulsar
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Depends on if the 30xx series have a reasonable price-perf ratio, unlike the 20xx on launch.

mental shuttle
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Im new to this so, do they usually not announce dates long beforehand?

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so could be like anytime this year

rancid flame
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they usually annouce dates at events

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sometimes there are leaks

mental shuttle
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when are the big events where it could happen?

crimson pier
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tbh cards above the 2070 are kinda pointless unless you do some serious AI and/or rendering, not much that can take full advantage of them on the market yet

rancid flame
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like ces, computex

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vr takes advantage of the 2080 and 2080 ti

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the extra vram really helps

crimson pier
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yeeaah but price wise

mental shuttle
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I was gonna pick 1080 but then I was like I'll push it a bit more to future proof it as well

crimson pier
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Future-proofing your content!

umbral reef
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1080 is still a fair bit above average
For sure if your ram and CPU are a bit more future proof

mental shuttle
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I went from 1050 to 1060 quite fast. so want it to take much longer before I feel like I wanna upgrade again