#vrchat-general-2

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onyx cape
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Reinstall n delete your files.

vocal shard
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Pfft

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Vrc discord server was down for me

vocal shard
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@rigid crescent I fell asleep pc experience was better than the quest much more entertaining & fun playing vr chat on the quest was a mistake I shall not repeat wireless is fun but nah I feel like it causes motion sickness a lot

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That's all vr

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You gotta get used to it

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Not to confuse it with oh my pc is better in a way to show off

winter juniper
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my mom left me

vocal shard
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?

zinc scaffold
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Im an Quest user as i have one thing to say change your avatar to PC plaform to PC and quest plaform at same time so i dont have to look at grey bodys

vocal shard
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?

zinc scaffold
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Two i have tight budget as trying to get two thing that i want is costum pc and valve index

hollow sluice
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@zinc scaffold if you think its that easy that do it for us

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good luck decimating a 70K poly model to under 7k so some toddlers can see it

zinc scaffold
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@hollow sluice i have friend sasha that he have 40k poly avatar as i survive his avatar
Ask him about it
@covert blade

umbral reef
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So your logic that one avatar being totally unoptimized for the quest means they all can be that bad?

zinc scaffold
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Now i have to go and do something.
As it depend

gilded helm
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i don't make the avatars so

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yeah

covert blade
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@zinc scaffold Hm?

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Watup?

hollow sluice
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@zinc scaffold learn fucking english before complaining about people not optimizing their avatars

gilded helm
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whoa

covert blade
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❔

gilded helm
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let's calm down a bit tho

hollow sluice
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I am fucking curious how many of them you have converted to be quest compatible

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than talk shit

covert blade
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I don't get what's going on so imma head off somewhere else now

gilded helm
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idk why this even started

covert blade
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Oh well

vocal shard
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I think they were just saying that even if you don't have a quest optimized avatar, as a quest user they still appreciate people uploading their "unoptimized" avatar to the quest build so they atleast have the option to see them

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It feels more like they are demanding that we optimize for quest

gilded helm
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prob language barrier

twin fractal
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a lot of avatars can be uploaded to quest basically as is but people don't even try

gilded helm
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even though that person is quite weird

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got dmed and he asked for "nsfw avatar worlds for quest"

twin fractal
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LMAO

waxen lark
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why is there like no good male avatars im so confused a lot of female ones look sick but so hard to find male avatars

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do i gotta pay someone to make me one or what is this

gilded helm
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Cause men don't look as good

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and nobody wants to be a man

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in a place you can be a woman

waxen lark
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I would not be comfortable playing as a female avatar thats kinda weird

broken plover
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same

gilded helm
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ive played female avatars my whole life so I'm used to it

broken plover
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I just look around for wolfboys and take the best ones

waxen lark
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I have to play as meme male avatars my whole life i guess

worthy tapir
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Anyome know about a glitch where someone keeps getting blocked?

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A friend of mine keeps getting blocked, ig just happened in front of me

hollow ingot
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Maybe I can be User forever~

gilded helm
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you can display yourself as an User

hollow ingot
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Does it never automatically switch back for ya?

gilded helm
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no

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unless you do it yourself

hollow ingot
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I'm just a User right now. I sometimes would get blocked and/or kicked though. ._.
Being muted by others won't hurt you? Mic always disabled here.

devout berry
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Want to see Quest user yelling the hell on someone to fix their avatar, when the PC user have a commissioned one and cannot do anything with Blender and with Unity can just upload.

covert blade
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@vocal shard That was the original reason I uploaded mine for Quest, but I got rid of 'em

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The only Quest avatar I have now is one that is actually Quest optimized vrcPerfMedium

rigid crescent
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Yeah sure I'll upload a Quest avatar. Oh wait, I can't test it nor will I ever get to experience it in any way whatsoever nor will most people I meet

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sounds like the best way to waste a bunch of time lol

covert blade
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Pretty much

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That's why the only Quest avatar I have is the one that came with a Quest optimized version

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Otherwise, it's just annoying to switch to Android build and reupload an avatar that barely anyone will ever see and that is vrcPerfVeryPoor on Quest

rigid crescent
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It's so strange that a platform is released that requires cooperation and creation almost exclusively from people who will never be able to experience it lol

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Like how much Quest content is actually made by Quest users lol

covert blade
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There are Quest only avatars tho

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Gives me a headache

rigid crescent
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i mean there's quest only worlds too

covert blade
vocal shard
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so it's just a bunch of opaque planes `?

rigid crescent
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yet we get people in here who dont seem to realize that and i feel like its because theyre empty lol

covert blade
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Oof

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The only thing I actually bother porting to Quest are worlds

rigid crescent
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its like quest users dont wanna hang out with quest users lol

covert blade
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But that actually has practical uses and benefits

rigid crescent
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Like just imagine the thought process releasing the quest version the way they did

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"so yeah, basically most of the content has to be made by people who can't even experience it"

vocal shard
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"let's release a game that barely function on PC for a phone VR"

rigid crescent
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Because really, how much tech'savvy Quest users do we get in here vs all the "unga bunga quest good me want see all avatar just give it time" type?

snow wadi
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@modern sand BBkiss

twin fractal
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I will become the God of Quest

vocal shard
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i cant rank up from visitor

verbal hamlet
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Are you using your Steam account?

vocal shard
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yes

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soo why doesnt it rank me up

verbal hamlet
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You need to use a VRChat account.

vocal shard
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like i downloaded on steam

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and created an account on VRChat

snow wadi
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Did you log into VRChat WITH your VRChat account?

vocal shard
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yeah

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bruh i crashed again on VRChat

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yeah there is
usually in their own groups

pseudo rivet
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Okay.

pure hemlock
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We exist but we hide in friends+ and private worlds now-a-days because of said kids and teens

verbal hamlet
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Heh

pseudo rivet
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Ah ok. Thanks for the reply. Will keep a look out.

vocal shard
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just need to be lucky and find a good group for you

pseudo rivet
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Ok thank you :)

vocal shard
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with my old group we usually hang around in private for 1h max, just talking about random things and then we would jump in public worlds to meet other people

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so you may find some groups like that

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Its hard to find older people, every day more and more teens play the game and its hard to meet people. I've had generally okay luck finding older people to talk to in Drinking Night. Though they are usually drinking/drunk.

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but you'll just have to world jump a lot to find a world that isn't cancer

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it's a lot of luck to find a decent instance where people are actually talking normally

pseudo rivet
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Yep I'm usually having a few beers but nothing too harsh. Just would like to experience Vrchat in a decent adult manner, rather than seeing hundreds of teens in front of mirrors talking trash and groping each other. But yeah I'll keep looking for a group. Thanks all. :)

devout berry
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Yeah. Last time I came to hub and a whole group of kiddos just totally annoyed me. I think, that maybe raising age limits to those of social network (18+) would help.

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And make the user enter birth date in registration. I don't know, how the registration form looks now, but when I came, there were just fields for username, email and password and a "I read TOS" checkbox.

pseudo basalt
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lol

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when has a birth date ever stopped anyone

verbal hamlet
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Really.... Like a teen doesn't know how those fields work.

vocal shard
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you'll remove more than half the playerbase

devout berry
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That is a "little" problem. And I see no solution to that.

pseudo rivet
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There could be a 18+ server which would solve a lot of issues.

vocal shard
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@covert blade think you could make a wedding world?

devout berry
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Yeah.

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@pseudo rivet

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That would be pretty good, but I don't think that devs want to maintain two release servers.

covert blade
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@vocal shard Negative

verbal hamlet
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You two think an 18+ server would do much?

tight spade
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help

covert blade
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I have very little experience in making worlds and the stuff I do is not specifically intended for others

vocal shard
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@covert blade awww

tight spade
devout berry
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Not so much - imposters are everywhere.

covert blade
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@pseudo rivet Would it?

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How would ya know they are 18+?

pseudo rivet
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Yea I do. If by creating an account youd need age verification such as a credit card for example.

covert blade
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Take your parents credit card

verbal hamlet
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Some teens even have their own.

devout berry
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Ok, easy - make them verify through their ID card.

covert blade
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Also what if someone doesnt have a CC?

ruby needle
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Yeah... no. You definitely dont want to do that.

devout berry
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But that is overboard.

tame sapphire
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Yeah there's mostly thirsty teenagers, furries, and memesters

pseudo rivet
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Really? With a statement saying VRchat on it? I'd kill my kids if they did that.

covert blade
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Uhm

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That's edgy as fuck

pseudo rivet
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I'm sure there are other ways of age verification if not a cc

ruby needle
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"Ok, easy - make them verify through their ID card." Is easy yes, if you just care about ONE country that actually supports that
(Still all the data protection things aside)

covert blade
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Slowly back off out of the convo

tame sapphire
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My group I roll in youngest is 16 and oldest like 30

unreal folio
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goddamn rock sand

devout berry
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Yeah. That would kill the international availability.

tame sapphire
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Lmao im not giving vrchat my personal details fuck off normie

pseudo rivet
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@covert blade erm yes I would as a responsible parent.

devout berry
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And EU wouldn't make it easy... thank you, GDPR!

verbal hamlet
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Killing your kids = responsible?

tame sapphire
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Maybe if you weren't toxic youd get along with ppl younger than you

covert blade
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^ @Β­Lost

pseudo rivet
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Fuck sake.. guess I'm talking to kids on here too. I'm out.

tight spade
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hey how i download VRC SDK 2017 ?

unreal folio
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;-;

devout berry
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I don't see any toxicity here.

tame sapphire
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Bro I'm 25 just not an asshole

covert blade
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I'm 23. No, you shouldn't kill people

pseudo rivet
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Jesus christ it's a figure if speech..

covert blade
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Especially your kids, and you should absolutely not mention doing that in a public Discord server

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*Figure of speech

pseudo rivet
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Omg get a grip. It's a figure of speech

devout berry
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πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ
Where is this going...

covert blade
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You said that already....

tame sapphire
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Dude you shouldn't threaten teenagers it doesn't make you look cool

pseudo basalt
pseudo rivet
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Threaten how??

tame sapphire
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Got to assert physical dominance over literal children

pseudo rivet
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Wtf

pseudo basalt
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Dude.. killing your own children.. that's dark man...

devout berry
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Chill everyone! I really don't like the tension building here!!!!

pseudo rivet
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πŸ˜”

devout berry
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Air - Quotes!

verbal hamlet
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Muscle tension.

tame sapphire
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Alternative to complain you can wonder around vrchat and just talk to ppl and you'll likely meet someone your age eventually

covert blade
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I don't even know how long it has been already since I ran into kids

verbal hamlet
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I fooled all of you!

tame sapphire
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Ban all the vrchat babies

unreal folio
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tu me tienes loco contigo

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e

devout berry
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?

unreal folio
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i saw lolathon

vocal shard
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and did lolathon saw you ?

covert blade
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Ran into Lola like three times now

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But he only ever runs around in his meme avatars so like

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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

pseudo rivet
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' I ran into Lola'

verbal hamlet
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Who?

covert blade
vocal shard
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Lola is just spamming all his stuff to get a reaction

covert blade
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Pretty much

vocal shard
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quite annoying.

verbal hamlet
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Who is Lola?

covert blade
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A streamer

vocal shard
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lolathon

covert blade
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Aka one of those people who just try to get a reaction out of you because other players are just content basically

vocal shard
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a vrchat streamer that actually do something instead of looking at a mirror

pseudo basalt
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Isn't that most streamers

covert blade
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It is

verbal hamlet
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Hmmm

vocal shard
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it is but at least he make some stuff to show off from time to time

pseudo basalt
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People looking for content surrounded by people who are desperately trying to get noticed

covert blade
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Which is why I mostly look down upon people streaming

twin fractal
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lolathon is alright

covert blade
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He has a mic but doesn't use it ingame

twin fractal
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moons avatars are funnier imo

covert blade
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Goddamn that person and he's on my friends list too

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Then again, I didn't know Moon was a streamer until later

vocal shard
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I avoid those streamers like the plague
Quite sad because I'm sure they are quite decent if they didn't just try to go for content

covert blade
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

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I just know that if they keep shoving blue gnomes into my face I won't be stickin' around with 'em for very long

vocal shard
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I usually leave as soon as I see them

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All their followers are going to join and the instance will just be unplayable

covert blade
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Well, I'm not that deep into the VRChat YouTuber and Streaming scene so most of 'em I won't recognize

broken plover
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I once ran into VRTrapman while he was just chilling without streaming and he was like half a different person kind of

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and also oathmeal and lanfear

rough pulsar
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The vast majority of them do put on an act for the stream. Off stream they're very different.

gilded helm
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I usually end up blocking the streamers I meet

covert blade
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Which usually makes them annoying

vocal shard
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but you rarely see them off stream unfortunately, so you usually just have a bad experience with them

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I don't know most YouTubers or streamers. Usually if they and their orbiters join, I shy away in the corner and eventually leave. They're usually loud and not really my personality.

Although if I ever meet any when they aren't streaming and their fans aren't joining they're usually chill

covert blade
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So most of the people I know who are streaming are just, playing the game

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Not doing anything special just for the stream

gilded helm
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pretty much what you should do while streaming

vocal shard
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Jamie, you're a bean

covert blade
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And then there's people who just use silly avatars all the time

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That's nice the first time, after the 3rd time I'm kinda done with it though

gilded helm
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I swear way too much for twitch

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maybe youtube would work

vocal shard
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you can also use an anti stream shader 😈

covert blade
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Meh

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Bothering others isn't part of my play style

gilded helm
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wait what is that svel

covert blade
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Probs something that is equally as annoying as the people streaming

gilded helm
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I just block the streamers cause I would probably end up having them banned

vocal shard
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it's a shader that only works when you look at it through the camera/stream-camera

devout berry
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I like Nagzz21's VRChat Adventures. Shame he discontinued the series. Just catching up, what I haven't seen.

broken plover
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what about the streamers that stream through "first person view"

vocal shard
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so the streamer will see nothing special but the people watching the stream will see the image i decided to overlay

gilded helm
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I hate when people stream though the camera

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it's annoying lol

broken plover
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imo its like someone doing a vlog irl

gilded helm
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aka annoying

broken plover
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not really that annoying for me

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my preffered way of watching streams is when they have 3rd person view and 1st person view. So you can see it like they see everything and an extra view angle for the stream

covert blade
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I prefer playing the game rather than watching streams

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I wanna meet people myself, not watch someone do it

gilded helm
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I just wanna know the fuck people manage to have proper setups with their OVRToolkit

rough pulsar
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Sometime back during the population surge of 2018 when there were regular service outages, I remember getting stuck in an instance (user-user networking was fine, but vrc API was down, so world switching, logging in, etc didn't work) and a bunch of us long time users were out in a public instance and we had some small-time streamer with us and ended up playing some party games and stuff while the servers came back online.

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Also yes Sasha 1000% agree. If I want to have an interaction I want to do it myself, not watch other people do it, like why?

broken plover
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The only streamers I watch are meme streamers because the avatars are funny

gilded helm
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people who are shy i guess

broken plover
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^

gilded helm
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or people who can't afford a VR headset

covert blade
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Which would make sense if VRChat was VR exclusive

gilded helm
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Desktop VRChat is shit

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actual pile of shit

covert blade
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Desktop VRC > Twitch Streams

tame sapphire
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Desktop is pretty bad

vocal shard
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most people are on desktop πŸ˜”

gilded helm
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I rather watch someone have fun than not have fun in VRChat

covert blade
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Before I even think about wasting time watching a stream, I'd rather spend that time being ingame myself

near saffron
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^

covert blade
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I do have VR and Fullbody though

sterile skiff
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I've got a used Lenovo explorer and it's actually pretty good

rough pulsar
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If I can't be in VRC in VR for whatever reason I'd rather go play an actual game.
To me VRC isn't a game at all, it's where I go to hang out with friends.

covert blade
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There is only a single person who I would consider watching their streams, and that is someone I actually know myself

rough pulsar
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For all the shit people give WMR it isn't awful, just not as good as the rest.

broken plover
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I sometimes watch streams when I got nothing else to do because 1. I'm lazy 2. my internet is slow and it takes forever to load worlds and avatars and 3. I often don't have anyone to join on and then I'm bored and just exit out of vrc again

gilded helm
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Also, to be fair

devout berry
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User xbox controller when on desktop. Mouse + keyboard have less functions.

gilded helm
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people who are bored at work or can't play

devout berry
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With controller, it is really a lot better.

covert blade
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The only thing that changes is that you can rotate objects, assuming the world creator allowed it

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Not a huge game changer for me imo

near saffron
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Pretty funny to do tho

gilded helm
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why can desktop users not rotate shit

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like just why

covert blade
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They can, with a controller

rough pulsar
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Only streams I've watched that weren't painfully cringy are event streams where the focus isn't on a single person, or is to act as a portal through to what's going on, like the community meetup streams.

gilded helm
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controllers are shite

devout berry
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Ahh, do I see a member of "Purge desktopers" club?

covert blade
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Subjective opinion

gilded helm
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true, but most people use kbm

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so why can they not rotate

covert blade
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

devout berry
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Not implemented.

covert blade
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Yeah, but why not

gilded helm
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wow

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thanks for telling me that, i didnt know

covert blade
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Amnesia has the rotation of objects by holding down a key and moving your mouse

vocal shard
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they don't have hands

devout berry
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Vote for it on canny and pray the mighty VRPill.

covert blade
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VRChat has it for controllers

vocal shard
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so it makes sense

covert blade
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No, it doesnt

gilded helm
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Canny LMAO

covert blade
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Controllers aren't hands either and it works
Amnesia has object rotation with KBM

gilded helm
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canny more like never implemented

vocal shard
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Is there any value index users?

covert blade
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Value?

gilded helm
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valve

broken plover
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value index

rough pulsar
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Valve probably, also yes me hi

gilded helm
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yes I have the value index

vocal shard
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Yep typo my bad πŸ˜…

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Is it actually good value though?

gilded helm
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no

rough pulsar
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Considering the quality of the BMR earspeakers, 100% yes absolutely

gilded helm
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The headset, yes

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the controllers, no

devout berry
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BMR?

rough pulsar
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They seem to be quietly fixing that

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Balanced Mode Radiators, a hybrid speaker design.

gilded helm
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I wish you could take off the speakers tbh

rough pulsar
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You can

vocal shard
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You can

rough pulsar
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they just screw on

gilded helm
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I don't mean in that way

rough pulsar
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then in what way

gilded helm
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Taking it off without having a goddamn screw

vocal shard
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It is a nice headset though I really enjoy it

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But nice

gilded helm
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a plug of some sort, being able to take it off whenever you want to

rough pulsar
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I hate going back to on-ear speakers after using the index for a bit

broken plover
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I wish I could try the index, but I don't know anyone near me that has one :/

vocal shard
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I'm sure it sounds awesome. My only concern is when I play at night and noise leaking when others are trying to sleep

gilded helm
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Also, I wonder if it's possible to turn off the directional sounds on the speakers

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like having no surround sound

verbal hamlet
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I would just like a VR headset.

gilded helm
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You haven't gotten your socialism money yet

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When you enter highschool you will get it

vocal shard
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Take my quest ( jk) 😭

rough pulsar
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@vocal shard The noise leak doesn't have any significant range. If they're in a different room to you it will not be an issue at all.

vocal shard
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Cool

rough pulsar
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The volume has a really strange falloff to it, probably because of the speaker & back design.

pseudo basalt
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Actually really curious about those speakers

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Would like to try it some day

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But i'm also wondering why haven't we seen similar third party solutions just yet

rough pulsar
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Valve did have custom drivers made for theirs, so the set in the Index may not be exactly from off the shelf parts.

devout berry
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Btw, fun fact about WMRs in Czech Republic - it is usually like this:

  • new WMR is announced with international release
  • Czech e-shops list it as waiting for
  • it releases, but not in Czech Republic; shops still list it as waiting for
  • the manufacturer discontinues it, but Czech e-shops still wait for the Czech release

I know it, because I looked JFF at models listed on one of our e-shops. Over half of them got already discontinued and the shops still give "waiting for" status on the listing.
πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

cunning basalt
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Anybody having troubles whit loading youtube vids into VRChat?

deft girder
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You need to update your youtube-dl most likely

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It's inside the streaming assets folder in your vrchat folder and you can find a new version from google

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I can provide longer instructions if you need but that's the short version

cunning basalt
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Its every world i go where it wont load anything in

deft girder
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Yeah that's most likely youtube-dl problem I'll dm you better instructions on what to do

weary sky
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Hey, quick discussion on modified clients

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I just learned that they're a thing, and for a while too

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has VRC dev dealt with any of them?

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why are they still around?

devout berry
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When you deal with one, another pops up, that does it another way. To stop them, it would require a pretty big "anti-cheat" system, but that would hinder the performance. That is my view.

wet sluice
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C# was not a language that accounted for security, though it has improved with AOT/IL2CPP

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That isn't in vrchat live though, only vrchat beta is using that

weary sky
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I've seen one that's sold for 18.99, which seems kinda absurd to me

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to pay for something that might stop working sooner or later

wheat cape
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People are idiots

weary sky
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let alone, unofficial and discouraged by the devs

wet sluice
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It will break and the entire skillset of the mod author won't be useful to break the AOT compiled version that's coming vrcSoon

weary sky
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So when should we expect that modded clients would finally not work anymore?

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or can't be made anymore

devout berry
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Totally stopped? I think never, but reduced when the next update comes.

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Nothing is unbreakable.

wet sluice
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Since the beta has no release date, that's not really answerable

weary sky
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I understand that the practice will never be stopped, but what I would like is to see it get heavily reduced to the point of being no longer in the greyarea

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as it is now

soft bear
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hey

wet sluice
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Sure, nothing is unbreakable, but the current mod author's don't know how to hack a native game. Not to mention that even if they did, the amount of time required is greatly increased. Definitely not worth bothering considering low profit and low gain from it. People with that skillset hack csgo and overwatch, not vrchat.

gilded helm
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I don't mind clients as long as they don't have the stupid shit

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i hate the portal placing features and other malicious shit that people think is considered as "fun"

weary sky
#

yes, generally the malicious features that I don't approve of

rough pulsar
#

Just in case it's unclear to anyone, use of any client modifications are against the TOS and can result in a ban, no matter how 'harmless' you think it is.

It also opens you up to potentially bad shit because wow running untrusted code on your system? Hello malware & more.

weary sky
#

^

gilded helm
#

Very true, but I won't disapprove of people using clients to improve their experience

rough pulsar
#

That said, you're free to do whatever the fuck you like with SteamVR itself as that is not part of VRChat.

weary sky
#

unfortunately, some VRC players are paying 18.99 for the modded client

pale timber
#

woa

wheat cape
#

Just release an official mod that sends email of whoever logs in to be banned

gilded helm
#

wow Gallium said fuck you

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:^)

wet sluice
#

Yep, overlays and api tools (or API tools in the overlay 😎 ) are allowed

wheat cape
#

vn

devout berry
#

That is making profit from someone else's code! Sue that SOB moder!

rough pulsar
#

Lol dude you should hear me talking, I swear like there's no tomorrow πŸ˜‰

gilded helm
#

Hopefully we will actually get improvements than just having clients/mods cracked down on

devout berry
#

Don't know what should I think about ReShade, but to be safe, I won't use it.

weary sky
#

I like ReShade, but I don't mind the rule of thumb of not using it in MP games

wet sluice
#

Il2cpp luckily doesn't just break clients, but provides a potential for significant performance gains.

weary sky
#

Thank god

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can we get Vulkan/DX12 support while they're at it?

wet sluice
#

Ha, in a game that makes heavy use of community shaders and legacy support? Not gonna happen sadly.

weary sky
#

I was being half-sarcastic there

rough pulsar
#

Oh man, another content wipe? I'd be down for that 🀣

weary sky
#

same

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just take me away with them

gilded helm
#

another?

wet sluice
#

I really like Vulkan. You can do some really high performance things with a multi threaded render pipeline(s).

rough pulsar
#

5.3 to 5.6

inner cape
rough pulsar
#

FIVE SIX

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Ahh, thems were the days

fossil root
#
  1. please bring on the content wipe, we need it, there is so much fucking trash now
  2. I would love to hang out with you if you're as foulmouthed as you say.
gilded helm
#

I would wonder what would really happen if all modifications that people have done to the game suddendly just dissapeared

fossil root
#

all the edgies would leave and move on to another game to hacc

devout berry
#

That would make peace - the crashers and crazy particle/shader vision manipulators are really annoying.

frosty veldt
#

I genuinely think that a content wipe is practically suicide for the game lol

fossil root
#

just put a worker that downloads every avatar, then checks it for crashing or extremely laggy shit, and just deletes it off the server, giving a tempban to the user the amount of days equivalent to the number of avatars that they had deleted.

gilded helm
#

tfw death to unlimited favorites though

fossil root
#

me when I see somsone scrolling through for 20 mins, and then they just bring up some random public avatar

rough pulsar
#

Oh no, whatever shall I do when I can't favourite more than 16 horrid avatars that cause a 20+ fps drop

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Oh nooooo

gilded helm
#

Gallium I am the exception

frosty veldt
#

That's impossible to check automatically. You would end up banning people with intricate systems because it's "too laggy"

fossil root
#

all my favs rn are optimized booth models people have accidentally uploaded as public

gilded helm
#

I have 10 felixes in my favorites

fossil root
#

I view it as "I aint the one who uploaded them, not my problem"

#

we'll just wait for Avatars 2.0 to force a content wipe

rough pulsar
#

Pretty much the only two in my favourites I even slightly care about are this disasterous ARK otter port that squishes in on a gesture, and the Tesco Value version of my avatar someone semi-accidentally made.

It farts glitter.

frosty veldt
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The devs have done so much to prevent content loss in the 2018 update there's no way they would say fuck it and wipe it anyways

rough pulsar
#

Unless a change to the graphics system has more benefits than trashing a load of old content.

#

and to be fair if you don't keep your source files to be able to re-upload it's your own fucking fault.

frosty veldt
#

Well there's a difference it "5.6 stuff breaking" and a full content wipe

fossil root
#

I need to make a Walmart Great Value version of my avatar lmfao

frosty veldt
#

It's fully understandable if old stuff breaks but a full blown content wipe would just make the game empty for like 1-2 months

fossil root
#

vrchat quest

verbal hamlet
#

Fuck the quest.

fossil root
#

wow, close-minded much

rough pulsar
#

It wouldn't, because it didn't with 5.3-5.6
Everything had to be re-uploaded but there was a long transition period.

gilded helm
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do not put your penis inside the quest

vocal shard
#

Nerd

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Wait wat

verbal hamlet
#

Hmm

devout berry
#

I think, that content wipe would be around the same disaster seriousness as purging all desktop players, like some VR purist want on canny.

frosty veldt
#

If they were to do a long transition period then we need better info on our avatars. You can check which unity versions your world is uploaded on but not for avatars.

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At the moment if you want info on your avatar you need some crazy naming sequence to remind yourself

fossil root
#

as always
vr players, fine
vr mutes, fine
desktop players, fine
desktop mutes, can you not...

It's called VRChat either you VR or you Chat, or both.

vocal shard
#

Lel

gilded helm
#

ERPChat

verbal hamlet
#

How about no

rough pulsar
#

It was a case of everything had to be re-done. Nothing came through from 5.3

gilded helm
#

I'm sure y'all will love this

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let's just hire yanderedev as a vrchat dev

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he'll fix the game

frosty veldt
#

While a content wipe may be eventually inevitable I don't think hoping for one is healthy

verbal hamlet
#

Oh god no.

devout berry
#

@gilded helm Yeah. Best additions - maniacal laugh button and ability to stab other players. 🀣

verbal hamlet
#

You know what sure.

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Stabby stab.

gilded helm
#

panty shots

verbal hamlet
#

You can get those anyways though.

gilded helm
#

wait that already exists

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I just realized

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if there are no clients then there would be a possiblity

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for a true 18+ world

verbal hamlet
#

Heh

gilded helm
#

purge the clients

verbal hamlet
#

My brain isn't adding up on how that would solve it.

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Please explain.

gilded helm
#

people use noclip and shit to go through barriers

vocal shard
#

Nerds

gilded helm
#

oh fuck I forgot playspacemover is a thing

modest epoch
#

hm?

vocal shard
#

a mute desktop user ?
easy block for me

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I don't need a random rock dropping my FPS for no reason

wet sluice
#

The actual, collided position could be used to make people occluded from there not render.

modest epoch
#

man this game never cease to amaze me

devout berry
#

Only time when I am found muted in game and never touching voice button is, when I do world exploration and accidently stumble into portal to public instance. Otherwise I use invite only instances to be able to explore and not bother other people in the world.

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When not exploring, I am pretty talkative.

fossil root
#

same

vocal shard
#

@devout berry you know you can set it so you don't need to constantly hold the talk button, right?

fossil root
#

good the talk button

devout berry
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Yeah, but my parents and brother don't like when the mic is picking them up, so I minimalize by having it on PTT.

vocal shard
#

Fuck off, I'm tired, been awake since 6 basically rebuilding my house irl

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πŸ€”

devout berry
#

And on the controller it is not as annoying as on keyboard.

#

If I remember correctly it's on B, and hitting any other button while holding this one down is pretty easy.

wheat cape
#

V

devout berry
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Yeah, V on keyboard.

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I talked about xbox controller.

bronze plaza
#

Question: how do I find somewhat normal world's that aren't either empty or full of people not really talking and just showing off meme characters?

gilded helm
#

go into a hot world pref first 10

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click on like the 4th instance with a pop that is 70% of player cap

bronze plaza
#

Alrighty, thanks.

abstract nymph
#

ee I'm trying to find a Zero Two avatar that has her red uniform and white jacket ._.
apparently though there is no avatar world that has it :( feelsbadman

deft island
#

how come most of the avatars I try to use have their eyes closed by default and pressing the trigger buttons opens them.

rigid crescent
#

it sounds like there might be an issue with your controls

deft island
#

I use oculus touch controllers

sour lily
#

this feels out of order

bronze plaza
#

That feel when you were just in a great world but then an error happens and your game closes unexpectedly and you're thrown back into the wmr loading area

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Is there a way to go back to the exact world you were just in?

fossil root
#

yes, lookup VRChat Rejoin Tool

tacit plank
#

Sounds like a modification which isn't allowed and might take your password. Well, potentially

fossil root
#

it looks at your game log to get the IDs of the last instances you were in and starts the game with the link to it

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it is NOT a game mod

ruby needle
#

@lime sage Hello there cirPrise

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Please submit a moderation report and dont call out names publicly here.

tacit plank
#

That needs to be sent to admins

lime sage
#

Thank you

tacit plank
#

For the time being, I guess you should find somebody with a gigabit connect to laugh at him, doubt he can take that down

fossil root
#

also @bronze plaza try switching to the wmr for steamvr beta, or steamvr beta itself, ik there was a random crash bug that got fixed for wmr at some point

lime sage
#

FPaul, can you DM me

ruby needle
#

a gigabit connection doesnt safe you against real DDOS's

lime sage
#

I have his information

ruby needle
#

no @lime sage i just gave you the place to read into and it tells you everything else

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im not a ingame moderator

lime sage
#

10-4

tacit plank
#

True, but if he's reading peoples IPs to them chances are he's a dumb teenager getting a kick out of a client he downloaded from a script kiddie forum

lime sage
#

he does have a client

ruby needle
lime sage
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he can see it in VR chat, he teleports and is immune to lobby host kicks

ruby needle
#

im not going to tell you this one more time

tacit plank
#

And that he isn't really a threat. Immune to kicks sound strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a security hole there lol

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If you have his info, call his mom and tell her that her son is being mean to people online πŸ˜›

languid beacon
#

2000+ hours of VR in VRChat and other applications, can play for 8 hour marathon sessions and not even flinch. But 5 minutes of Minecraft in VR makes me feel like I'm going to puke and require emergency headset removal. How can you mess up VR so badly?

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wrongπŸ‘channel

fossil root
#

vivecraft or bedrock?

hollow ingot
#

Wow game why u du me like that?

I'ma known user now~

bronze plaza
#

Bedrock MC felt pretty good so I dunno what you're saying

rigid crescent
#

Minecraft VR is a 3rd party mod isn't it? That's probably how

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or is there a first party one

wet sluice
#

Bedrock is 1st party and very smooth

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90 fps 100% of the time. It doesn't handle roomscale very well though.

#

Never tried vivecraft

pseudo basalt
#

I played vivecraft

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It's just.. vr minecraft

#

But it has lots of settings to play around with

desert stratus
#

official minecraft vr build lets you have "a stand" according to my friend

pseudo basalt
#

So it's probably a looot more customizable than bedrock

desert stratus
#

basically your player character is actually bound to the world / center of your playspace instead of your hmd + controllers

pseudo basalt
#

heck

desert stratus
#

so you can walk beyond bounds, through walls, and generally extend your range of affect with wallhacks

pseudo basalt
#

that sounds pretty bad

wet sluice
#

It's a sitting game

#

By default it shows you on a couch looking at a TV

pseudo basalt
#

vivecraft lets you do pretty much what you'd expect

desert stratus
#

Fuck sitting

pseudo basalt
#

you can swing your stuff manually or click your trigger to do things

#

mining blocks is super slow if you swing

sterile ingot
#

I am waiting to get an RTX card before diving into minecraft vr

pseudo basalt
#

rtx vr sounds like trouble

#

I'm lagging playing vivecraft with smooth lighting turned on lol

wet sluice
#

Both increase the GPU load lol

pseudo basalt
#

Gotta turn it off so it becomes block based

sterile ingot
#

Well, I always tend to get the nVidia 80 series cards so . . .

vocal shard
#

Hi everyone! Has anyone bought controller grips for an Oculus Rift cv1? I can’t seem to find any for the older controllers

inner cape
#

well, they dont make those anymore, no wonder its rare.. or just downright extinct

rigid crescent
#

are those needed

#

i thought the controllers stayed in your hands pretty well

vocal shard
#

Do the ones for the rift S fit the CV1 controllers?

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I guess it depends what type of grip you're talking about

twin fractal
#

I think the design are pretty similar between cv1 and rifts/quest?

vocal shard
#

Does anyone know how to search for worlds? The website search doesn't appear to be working well.

inner cape
#

in game in the worlds tab

#

theres a search bar

#

just like in social

#

πŸ€”

vocal shard
#

Does that search any better than the website though?

#

I'm told it searches descriptions but that might not be true.

inner cape
#

it can search by tags

brisk shadow
#

i hate when video players work for me, but not my friend. Or the other way around.

inner cape
#

relatable

brisk shadow
#

it seems to just be certain videos though

inner cape
#

some might take longer to load for others, as thats done localy

steady carbon
#

I'm looking for good games in vrc. any recommendations?

foggy pecan
#

I don't know where to ask this. I'm looking for good quality furry avatars ingame. any recommendations?

inner cape
#

🀑

gilded helm
#

Search for furry in the search

foggy pecan
#

i tried. a lot of troll rooms

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i'd rather not deal with that if i don't have to

steady carbon
#

best way I have found is find others with anthro avatars and ask them

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or commission a custom one

vocal shard
#

i got voicemod pro and it says i have to wait a few hours is that normal?

white current
#

is it normal that youtube playlist wont work in vrchat ?
i can only play normal videos which is kinda annoying to always take off the vr-headset to play the next video / song

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also do you know if there is a player for music in vrchat?
for soundcloud for example

gleaming kraken
#

wish my beatles avatar world would leave community labs soon, its been in there way longer than i expected

vocal shard
#

First you go on the Ed Sullivan show

steady carbon
#

Anyone else experience others being able to clone your avatar when it is unchecked locally for you?
had that happen tonight. I had to check and uncheck it for myself to get it to be actually off.

vocal shard
#

Since modified clients are used by half the players, I would guess that you actually had the setting properly working but they can just ignore it and clone anyway

indigo fern
#

one of two things, there are clients that can clone any public, and sometimes the thing actually does scuff

steady carbon
#

ya seems to be the later since checking and unchecking it turned it off for others as well

still lark
#

used by half the players
@vocal shard Got any proof for that stat?

rigid crescent
#

no

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lol

#

Worst place for the discussion, but I wonder if the "force clone" just grabs the avatar ID and changes your model or if it actually makes use of the clone function and exploits it

indigo fern
#

if occams razor is anything to go by, its probably the first since you can even do it without a client

rigid crescent
#

yup

raven mango
#

you are ther for

vocal shard
#

@still lark my own experience when i go to any random instance and I won't detail more πŸ‘€

still lark
#

πŸ‘€

rigid crescent
#

vrcThinking owo

deft island
#

why is it so hard to find good male avatars πŸ˜”

fading flower
#

Because everyone wants to be the "cute" anime girl

deft island
#

I tried using a anime girl avatar and people kept asking why I was using a female avatar

#

all the male avatars that pop up for me are the eboy and wolf boy ones

fading flower
#

Yeah

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I always go with male models

#

Even if it's a pokemon, they sometimes have gender differences

deft island
#

yeah

fading flower
#

Catch me as long horned sudowoodo or smaller abdomin scizor

#

If it's not them I'm either a different male character or a spartan

#

Such as the recent AZ model I made or the pyro

deft island
#

nice

#

most of the pokemon models I've seen don't work that well with vr

fading flower
#

Have you tried inevanables world

deft island
#

I don't think so

fading flower
#

He makes them specifically fornVR

deft island
#

I'll check it out

fading flower
#

Pokenexus

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Or even my stadium I made

#

I gotta update that world but I got some mons there

deft island
#

you made one?

fading flower
#

Ye

deft island
#

neat

fading flower
#

I mean they are just basic rigs

#

Some with dynamic bones

#

But its better than the generic rigs with game animations

deft island
#

yeah

fading flower
#

I think I might update it when I get home

#

It needs one

deft island
#

is it public?

fading flower
#

Yeah

#

It's just "pokemon avatar stadium"

deft island
#

ah alright

south viper
#

LOL?

"NETWORK MISSING
Something has gone wrong with the network! Maybe our servers are down, maybe you're offline, maybe it's just a horrifying clown-packed surprise.
You could try again?
200 : "

fading flower
#

Kek

#

Vrchat down again?

south viper
#

things break, everything about this is funny

#

but what I want to know is the meaning of that "200" at the end

fading flower
#

Yeah

#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 7359 users in VRChat currently

fading flower
#

Well

south viper
#

and it's back

#

but "200" for an error πŸ™‚

#

that's almost as good as the classic microsoft error dialog saying success

fading flower
#

Lmoa

steep laurel
#

Did VRC break?

fading flower
#

Scroll up homie

steep laurel
#

Woooo

#

Me and the boys trying to play vrchat

#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 7215 users in VRChat currently

fading flower
#

As I checked the player count is still normal

#

You know

#

For early monday

vocal shard
#

anyone mind helping with avatar stuff ?

fading flower
#

Welp I gotta bounce

#

A

cunning basalt
#

What are going on whit all the clients?

vocal shard
#

Nothing much

cunning basalt
#

The VRChat team dosent care that people are using them?

devout berry
#

Not that they don't care, but they work on port to unity 2018, which should reduce number of them. Shouldn't that easy to hack as this version.

#

To stop them now, it would require some technics, that would make the performance worse.

vocal shard
#

From c# to c++ so all modified clients will be broken

cunning basalt
#

Ah okey

vocal shard
#

Until someone make one in c++

cunning basalt
#

I just started to see more people that fly or use force cloning and one that could respawn people

#

And also saw one on steam that said someone got some personal information from him

#

How long you thing it takes before they are done?

devout berry
#

Don't know.

#

But we can go play beta.

#

Just persuade your friends to go to beta release with you.

#
  • I think that there will be less annoying kids on beta release.
cunning basalt
#

The kids arent the problem

#

Mostly the people using clients making everybody unsafe

devout berry
#

Yep. I meant that just the way, that by using beta you get bonus of less annoyances. And yeah, you will run from the hackers this way.

#

Hackers are on release only, aren't they?

cunning basalt
#

I only played on released and thats where i seen them

#

But whats diffrent whit beta then?

umbral reef
#

that no one plays on it as its only for testing really

devout berry
#

New features, can have bugs.

#

And, it is dedicated on it's own server from normal release.

cunning basalt
#

So it arent really a place to meet new people?

devout berry
#

Nope. You have to bring your own friends, because on beta are just volunteer testers.

#

But if you cannot wait anymore, you can try it.

cunning basalt
#

Think im just going to stick whit the already released then.

sour ruin
#

Damn I'm absolutely loving VRChat I'm brand new and am only playing for 2 days on desktop mode with no vr. I've always been terrible at communication and this is just too fun. I do hope the new release solves a lot of the hacked clients.

umbral reef
#

well some things will get fixed but not everything
Something like avatar stealing cant go away because of how tech works and how unity works

sour ruin
#

Yeah that's not a big concern for me but I get why it is for people.

#

Ive met soo many cool people already and it's only been 2 days... I played for like 16 hours today... or yesterday i guess

cunning basalt
#

@sour ruin you got alot more to explore and try

sour ruin
#

Oh I'm sure lol

cunning basalt
#

Took me some time but i found a group of lovely people that im talking whit nearly every day now

sour ruin
#

That's awesome I talked to several groups of people today for hours each.

tacit plank
#

If my headset has a problem and is disconnected, my windows sound change back to another device. Even if I change it back, I can't hear anything in VRC before restarting it.
And usually, SteamVR dies as well, which is only fixed by restarting my computer.

If any of my trackers time out when i use FBT, my controllers switch places, making my feet trackers act like controllers, this makes it impossible to interact with anything.

Any way to solve these problems? I might be a firmware version behind on some of the devices and maybe I can dedicate controllers to a specific role? Besides that I'm not sure what to do

cunning basalt
#

@sour ruin i will say that you should keep being yourself. Just keep talking whit people and one day you may find a group that you really like

tacit plank
#

It sucks to having to restart my computer, configure sound settings, start steamVR to turn on all devices as about half of them are on when my computer is, then close steamVR to close all devices, then turning them on in the right order, and then starting VRChat

vocal shard
#

Not gonna lie, I'm a little intimidated to try VRchat. It looks so vast and complicated in terms of making avatars. Can't seem to get a Ditto one working.

umbral reef
#

ironically enough something like a ditto is way more complex then a humanoid avatar so your not really wrong

vocal shard
#

I've seen ditto avatars on Youtube too. So I know they work, lol.

umbral reef
#

They work, but are not easy to get going and take more then one tutorial to properly make

tacit plank
#

It's a bit of a hurdle to learn, but once you learn it you can do most things

vocal shard
#

They are mostly made as a generic rigged Avatar but you don't have access to gestures
So what people do is use a dummy humanoid armature but that's out of scope for a totally new person

hardy acorn
#

Idk if this is the best place to ask but anyone who uses full body how do I stop so much hip jiggle? I have the track strap around my hips pretty tight and from me just jigging around, not really dancing much it jiggles a lot compared to other people no matter the avatar I've found

vocal shard
#

Do you happen to be a thicker person?

cunning basalt
#

@umbral reef you know any good tutorials for making humanoid creatures.

desert stratus
#

@hardy acorn if the strap is secure its probably tracking fun times

#

check lights and reflective surfaces in your room

hardy acorn
#

@vocal shard I should have checked over the channels, thanks for sending me in the right direction :')

#

@desert stratus I don't have the best setup and I'm using 1.0 base stations so could just be up to bad tracking yeah

desert stratus
#

reflective surfaces will cuck you over

#

idk about lighting but generally you want even lighting throughout your room

#

not 100% dark, nor 100% sunlight

hardy acorn
#

I already got rid of anything reflective, I'm even turning my phone over just in case LOL

#

Guess I'm just gonna have to mess around with my setup and lighting and see what the other channel says etc.

faint skiff
#

I had that issue, if none of the other trackers are doing it, it's not likely the room.

#

Where are the receivers for the trackers positioned?

hardy acorn
#

Yeah my foot trackers seem to be okay, not great because old base stations but better than the hip does

faint skiff
#

The issue in my case was because the receivers were too close to each other. Spaced them out, all the issues went away.

hardy acorn
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I usually just pop them on top of my laptop keyboard, I have spaced them but unfortunetly due to using a laptop I'm a little short on usb ports

faint skiff
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Make sure there's at least 10cm between them and don't put them on/next to anything that may reflect the signal, e.g. a metal laptop

desert stratus
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usb hub / extension time

hardy acorn
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Ahh god damn I didn't even think of the laptop having reflections, gonna have to do a mess about once I can get to it

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I have a usb hub but I thought that could be messing me about too

devout berry
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USB extensions should be a part of toolbox of every VR user. You never know, when the USB screws you.

desert stratus
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both powered and unpowered

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either or os better on a case by case by situation by circumstance by hardware by peripheral (individual) scenario

devout berry
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What am I saying? Extensions for everything the setup needs should be part of VR user's toolbox!

desert stratus
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since you have to balance range with overloading bandwidth

devout berry
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Usually it boils down to graphic cable extensions, USB extensions and power extensions.

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And for USB and graphic both active and inactive types.

wet sluice
#

Using a powered USB hub at the end of one 6ft works well, but audio doesn't make through the first unpowered extension.

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An unpowered 10ft HDMI cable handles quite well, at least when an Odyssey+ is on the end of it. Not sure about others.

vocal shard
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@hardy acorn no problem

faint skiff
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The receivers come with extension cords anyway.

vocal shard
#

I love this game!

wheat cape
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Good for you

charred tulip
#

what did i miss?

vocal shard
#

Everything

vocal shard
#

hey guys i cant load peoples avatars fast any problem with that

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it happens on both vr and pc

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it takes a while to load 2 people

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its probably not my gpu i have a 970

broken plover
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must be your internet

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my internet is slow and it takes me forever to load avatars and worlds

vocal shard
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I don't know i have 150 to 250 mbps

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my friend has a lower gpu and lower mbps and still loads all characters ):

wet sluice
#

What CPU? Also 970 is lowest possible card to run VR. It's not surprising you can't run the heavy unoptimized avatars that stress out 1080s and 2080s

vocal shard
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after 10 mins of japan shrine

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cpu: I7 6700

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im playing on pc rn but still

wet sluice
#

That should be okay, last critical part. How much RAM?

vocal shard
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16 gb

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my pc is the Rog g20 970

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you can read all the specs in the ROG website

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i deleted the game and re installed it

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that didnt work

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my Vr headset is the vive

wet sluice
#

Are you around 85% full on an SSD?

vocal shard
#

hmm

wet sluice
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Or more

vocal shard
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have 400 or so left on my 1.8 tb

covert blade
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Oof

snow wadi
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You should never use above 80% on SSD space.

covert blade
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Random question: Why not?

broken plover
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because

covert blade
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Wow

vocal shard
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problem is

broken plover
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(jk idk why)

vocal shard
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i've been running with issues ever since my pc fell on its side

broken plover
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get a new 10k$ pc

vocal shard
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bro

covert blade
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That is an entirely different problem

vocal shard
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give me money

covert blade
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Pff, earn it yarself :D

vocal shard
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should i get an external hard drive ?

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for backup yes

broken plover
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I only have to tell you that I have a probably 10year old cpu and an rx560 and you would already know that I don't have any money myself :/

wet sluice
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SSDs use free space to manage physical file positions

vocal shard
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also fairly sure that SSD thing is outdated with new ones now

snow wadi
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If you use up over 80%, the performance will degrade.

vocal shard
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i noticed that

wet sluice
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Nope, manufacturers still don't overprovision enough because they can make storage sizes larger

wheat cape
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I'm over 50% I'm going to go delete files now

snow wadi
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You basically leave no blocks for your files to get dumped into for temp write.

vocal shard
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so what your saying is i format my pc?

snow wadi
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No actually you should see what's taking up your space there.

wet sluice
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Just do some cleaning, no need to format

snow wadi
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Use Treesize to check.

vocal shard
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treesize?

wheat cape
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I think one of my fans stopped working

snow wadi
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It will tell you exactly where all your space is going.

wet sluice
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Or du -hd 1

snow wadi
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Yes it's an app, totally free.

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Been using it for years myself.

vocal shard
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ok ill try that Thanks.

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or WinDirStat

wheat cape
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Second treesize

wet sluice
#

All you non Linux users here....

vocal shard
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Gives you some nice visuals too

snow wadi
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Pro-tip : Hibernation takes up space so disabling it is a good idea. You get about 4 to 6GB of space back.

wet sluice
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WSL is great

charred tulip
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i missed even more-

wheat cape
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I'll dual boot Linux for development otherwise I never use it

vocal shard
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@snow wadi if i restart my pc it takes atleast 4-5 minutes max 6 just to load up

wheat cape
#

Yikes

snow wadi
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Yeah that's because there aren't enough blocks to temp write.

wet sluice
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Get WSL, so many basic tasks that either require complex powershell or more third party software can be done in a simple default ubuntu executable

snow wadi
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So what's happening is it's hot swapping between your RAM and SSD way too much.

charred tulip
#

hmmmmmm

frigid zenith
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hey uhh does anyone know if theres a way to find someones steam account from the Steam_numbershere thats on their vrchat profile on the website? was my first vrchat friend years ago and we havent talked in a loong time xd

snow wadi
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If they're using a VRChat account, no.

vocal shard
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i think ill need a new SSD

frigid zenith
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feelsbad

vocal shard
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rip wallet ):

frigid zenith
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well they have the numbers after their name so ithinks its a steam name

covert blade
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steam_ID is a Steam ACC, not a VRC one

gilded helm
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i dont get those who have vrc accounts

covert blade
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What about those?

gilded helm
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but keep the letters after their name

frigid zenith
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hmm i dunno. o well. i tried doing a steam ID finder of his but meh

vocal shard
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1.4 tb on windows tf?

covert blade
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You just take the ID and paste it into the URL for Steam ACC's

fading flower
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i wish i could join

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but like im clueless on how ram and shit works

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head empty

covert blade
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@gilded helm I'm more curious about people who merge their Steam account, have a new name, but for some reason on the website it'll still say it's a Steam acc

vocal shard
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with magic usually and a lot of luck

covert blade
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I've seen people change the user name of their Steam acc like that.... or remove the random letters from their name even though it still says it's a steam acc

frigid zenith
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oh ye i tried that but it said profile could not be found, yet on the steamid finder site theres a username and profile pic preview

vocal shard
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@snow wadi Sorry for @ing you but it says 1.4 tb on windows

gilded helm
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honestly I have no idea

vocal shard
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check your temp folder

snow wadi
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^

vocal shard
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and empty your bin too

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how???

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wdym how ?

snow wadi
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Actually Ccleaner can chuck your rubbish out.

wet sluice
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Settings->System->Storage->cleanup

vocal shard
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go where the tmp folder is, right click on it and go into property

gilded helm
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ccleaner KEK

vocal shard
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and check the site of that folder

gilded helm
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There should be a program called disk cleaner

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on your computer, it deletes all that shit

vocal shard
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alright im opening up ccleaner

snow wadi
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Ccleaner does the same thing... >_>

vocal shard
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xD

fading flower
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hmmst

gilded helm
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why would you download a program that does the same job

vocal shard
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Ccleaner removes a lot more stuff

snow wadi
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Thing is the built in one doesn't clean everything.

vocal shard
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like the cache from internet browsers

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and it's basically idiot proof since you can just press one button and it does everything for you

gilded helm
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true retard proof

snow wadi
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And it most certainly does not clear out broken registries.

minor flame
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%temp%

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Win + R

gilded helm
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or just temp

snow wadi
#

Just get an app that needs one click and you're done.

gilded helm
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ive never actually needed ccleaner

minor flame
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Or system 32

vocal shard
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or Windows

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so i went to blizzard launcher to see if destiny is still installed it said no on the app it says it is

minor flame
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Just kidding

wet sluice
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Me neither. Chrome storage clear and windows built in storage clear is equivalent.

gilded helm
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ye lol

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cache clearing extensions are king tho

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i used that shit a lot for my web dev classes

fading flower
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hm

vocal shard
#

CCleaner just said i could save 58 gb

wet sluice
#

Protip: Hold down the refresh button with dev tool open.

snow wadi
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Oof.

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That...is alot of rubbish.

vocal shard
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I found random games i never played that are over 50 gb

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i expected way more than 58 tbh

snow wadi
#

Also do you only have that one SSD for storage?

vocal shard
#

also dude

gilded helm
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@wet sluice Dev tool? You mean Shift + I?

vocal shard
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Yeah .

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is your "download" folder full too ?

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wait lemme check

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if you have useless stuff there just remove stuff

snow wadi
#

You need to invest in another storage device.

vocal shard
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And properly delete files that you don't use at all

snow wadi
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So you don't dump all of heaven and hell on the same SSD.

wet sluice
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Yes, or F12

vocal shard
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I should really get a hard drive huh

wet sluice
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Hold the refresh and pull down with it open

snow wadi
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Seeing that you managed to have 400mb left? Yes I believe so xD

wet sluice
#

Single page clearing

gilded helm
#

hm

#

basically the same as the extension

wet sluice
#

Just built-in to chrome

snow wadi
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You should leave the SSD that has windows on it for minimal apps and storage but not as everything else as well.

gilded helm
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I like having the devtools on the side though

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of the page I'm on

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so it's easier to use the extension

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fuck responsive design

minor flame
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Delete previous win file after an update

wet sluice
#

Hmm, but isn't the refresh button is always there? Do you mean an extension to the dev tools?

vocal shard
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Thanks guys im at 600 gb right now (:

snow wadi
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Also I think it might be a good idea to move this to #user-support-old now, since this is now going way off track xD

gilded helm
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Just a chrome extension Aria

snow wadi
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@vocal shard LucoaOkay

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VRChat should behave normally now.

gilded helm
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the refresh button is there but your browser gets smaller

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which can be annoying when you want to work with responsive design

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which is like the only time when you actually clear cache for that shit

hot gale
vocal shard
#

still seems to be the same thing

snow wadi
#

Have you had this issue before?

vocal shard
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Yes months ago too

snow wadi
#

Hmm tried clearing your Cache ingame already?

vocal shard
#

i haven't been able to play vr chat at all

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Mhm.

snow wadi
#

What about your safety settings?

vocal shard
#

none

fading flower
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funny you mention safety settings

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to survive sundays i now crank up my safety to the max

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avatar show rate is medium

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and only friends and people who have show avatar are seen

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so its now a sea of grey robots but at least i get stable framerate now

twin fractal
#

yeah it be like that

fading flower
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but now i dont crash every 20-30 mins

twin fractal
#

hopefully I can have a stronger PC by May

fading flower
#

also how does the open beta role work?

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are there like specific beta builds you can take to get it?

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or is it if you have used the beta a bit bewm

vocal shard
rough pulsar
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Head on down to the open beta channel and read it, you get the role and then you'll get notified of open beta builds & important info and instructions on access to the open beta.

faint skiff
#

Turning off custom animations stops 99.9% of badness. Disabling Very Poor avatars results in a world of robots these days 😦

rough pulsar
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The perf blocker would be much more useful with an option to filter with it being checked against the rest state of the avatar. So even if someone has a few disabled objects that otherwise would mark it as very poor, with them not active they're not very poor right now so shouldn't be blocked.

vocal shard
#

disabling animations will also sadly remove all expressions and cute quirks like that

rough pulsar
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I run with animations off and it makes public instances bearable since there isn't ridiculous amounts of unfunny memey bullshit flying around 24/7

vocal shard
indigo fern
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i play with everything on and there arent too many memey bullshit anymore regardless vrcThinking

vocal shard
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you usually get the odd 1

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you just block and move on

devout berry
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Depends who you bump into.

covert blade
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I usually have safety off and it is usually fine
Then again, I pretty much only join on friends

wet sluice
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Yea, I leave safety off unless it's pub hopping time

vocal shard
#

it's always off for me

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I prefer to choose people that I want to block, there aren't that many usually

frosty veldt
#

Nice part of the saftey settings is it doesn't hide everything. Grey robots still arnt scaled properly with the avatar

devout berry
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Last time I played, there was user with avatar, that got songs in it and visualizations for them. And these visualizations were full of particles screen shaking, blinking and dimming. It annoyed me and was kinda making the game not navigable. Had to use safe mode.

covert blade
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But I guess I'm mostly lucky that I don't run into too many people having stupid stuff going on that forces me to use it

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That's something I honestly hate, same with the loading avatar

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I dunno where to look while they load in, and it can take a while for avatars to load

rigid crescent
#

You know you don't need safe mode right

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Just hide them

wet sluice
#

That really depends on your hardware and what you've got running in the bg

devout berry
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When you have covered screen in shaders and particles, it is kinda hard to do anything.

rigid crescent
#

Animations off for non friends is typically the best though

covert blade
#

Until you meet that one person that has a spawn in screen space shader that won't go away because you turned off animations

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Aka, the type of person I will block when I find out who it is

wet sluice
#

When all it takes is one monster to avatar to bring you to "unable to use the UI to hide people" state, just hiding them doesn't work

covert blade
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Then ya hide all the avatars via safety settings, select him, manually hide, show everyone again

vocal shard
#

if you drop below 20 fps, you also cannot aim at people anymore

desert stratus
#

i dont show a lot of people with safety on rlly

#

that too

vocal shard
#

the player capsule just breaks

covert blade
#

Beef up your PC or use perf settings

gilded helm
#

y'all dont use safety?

devout berry
#

I think that a helpful function would be, that when you trigger safe mode, it would dump users in room into a txt file and mark those doing any animation at the moment.

rigid crescent
#

Seems useles

covert blade
#

Me not but it's usually fine in the instances I am in

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I don't go to public Pugs btw

gilded helm
#

i love safety so much

#

only robots

covert blade
#

xD

rigid crescent
#

That'd register anyone doing any animation

#

So largely pointless

covert blade
#

But sometimes that is something I accept if it helps getting my frames up

gilded helm
#

i only have avatars on for known and trusted users

rigid crescent
#

The Virgin "All off" and the Chad "Animations off"

#

That's stupid lol

devout berry
#

Usually when this type of animation starts, no one is able to do anything. So it would mostly catch just the offender.

indigo fern
#

just leave everything on 😲

gilded helm
#

I'll do that when I feel like having 20 fps

rigid crescent
#

You're absolutely wrong about that.

covert blade
#

Ranks =/= Performance

devout berry
#

VR shortcuts?

rigid crescent
#

It's catch anyone who is doing any animation

gilded helm
#

Takes away a lot of people though

covert blade
#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

gilded helm
#

is what I hinted at

devout berry
#

I meant emote animations.

covert blade
#

If the room is full of trusted it won't do anything

rigid crescent
#

Including pointing smiling

gilded helm
#

it usually isn't

covert blade
#

Usually is where I hang around

rigid crescent
#

Those big anims are usually gestures.

gilded helm
#

It is if I go into a friends+

#

but if nobody is online and I go to a public world, nah

covert blade
#

Usually doesn't happen for me

#

Though I sometimes do have days where there's just nothing going on at all

gilded helm
#

I mostly see visitors tbh

covert blade
#

Huh

devout berry
#

Dumping out users with playing emotes/gestures would help catching the offender, wouldn't it?

gilded helm
#

yup

covert blade
#

Visitors tend to run around with stupid stuff more often than not vrcAevSip