#vrchat-general-2
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@rigid crescent I fell asleep pc experience was better than the quest much more entertaining & fun playing vr chat on the quest was a mistake I shall not repeat wireless is fun but nah I feel like it causes motion sickness a lot
That's all vr
You gotta get used to it
Not to confuse it with oh my pc is better in a way to show off
my mom left me
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Im an Quest user as i have one thing to say change your avatar to PC plaform to PC and quest plaform at same time so i dont have to look at grey bodys
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Two i have tight budget as trying to get two thing that i want is costum pc and valve index
@zinc scaffold if you think its that easy that do it for us
good luck decimating a 70K poly model to under 7k so some toddlers can see it
@hollow sluice i have friend sasha that he have 40k poly avatar as i survive his avatar
Ask him about it
@covert blade
So your logic that one avatar being totally unoptimized for the quest means they all can be that bad?
Now i have to go and do something.
As it depend
@zinc scaffold learn fucking english before complaining about people not optimizing their avatars
whoa
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let's calm down a bit tho
I am fucking curious how many of them you have converted to be quest compatible
than talk shit
I don't get what's going on so imma head off somewhere else now
idk why this even started
Oh well
I think they were just saying that even if you don't have a quest optimized avatar, as a quest user they still appreciate people uploading their "unoptimized" avatar to the quest build so they atleast have the option to see them
It feels more like they are demanding that we optimize for quest
prob language barrier
a lot of avatars can be uploaded to quest basically as is but people don't even try
even though that person is quite weird
got dmed and he asked for "nsfw avatar worlds for quest"
LMAO
why is there like no good male avatars im so confused a lot of female ones look sick but so hard to find male avatars
do i gotta pay someone to make me one or what is this
Cause men don't look as good
and nobody wants to be a man
in a place you can be a woman
I would not be comfortable playing as a female avatar thats kinda weird
same
ive played female avatars my whole life so I'm used to it
I just look around for wolfboys and take the best ones
I have to play as meme male avatars my whole life i guess
Anyome know about a glitch where someone keeps getting blocked?
A friend of mine keeps getting blocked, ig just happened in front of me
Maybe I can be User forever~
you can display yourself as an User
Does it never automatically switch back for ya?
I'm just a User right now. I sometimes would get blocked and/or kicked though. ._.
Being muted by others won't hurt you? Mic always disabled here.
Want to see Quest user yelling the hell on someone to fix their avatar, when the PC user have a commissioned one and cannot do anything with Blender and with Unity can just upload.
@vocal shard That was the original reason I uploaded mine for Quest, but I got rid of 'em
The only Quest avatar I have now is one that is actually Quest optimized 
Yeah sure I'll upload a Quest avatar. Oh wait, I can't test it nor will I ever get to experience it in any way whatsoever nor will most people I meet
sounds like the best way to waste a bunch of time lol
Pretty much
That's why the only Quest avatar I have is the one that came with a Quest optimized version
Otherwise, it's just annoying to switch to Android build and reupload an avatar that barely anyone will ever see and that is
on Quest
It's so strange that a platform is released that requires cooperation and creation almost exclusively from people who will never be able to experience it lol
Like how much Quest content is actually made by Quest users lol
i mean there's quest only worlds too

so it's just a bunch of opaque planes `?
yet we get people in here who dont seem to realize that and i feel like its because theyre empty lol
its like quest users dont wanna hang out with quest users lol
But that actually has practical uses and benefits
Like just imagine the thought process releasing the quest version the way they did
"so yeah, basically most of the content has to be made by people who can't even experience it"
"let's release a game that barely function on PC for a phone VR"
Because really, how much tech'savvy Quest users do we get in here vs all the "unga bunga quest good me want see all avatar just give it time" type?
I will become the God of Quest
i cant rank up from visitor
Are you using your Steam account?
You need to use a VRChat account.
Did you log into VRChat WITH your VRChat account?
Okay.
We exist but we hide in friends+ and private worlds now-a-days because of said kids and teens
Heh
Ah ok. Thanks for the reply. Will keep a look out.
just need to be lucky and find a good group for you
Ok thank you :)
with my old group we usually hang around in private for 1h max, just talking about random things and then we would jump in public worlds to meet other people
so you may find some groups like that
Its hard to find older people, every day more and more teens play the game and its hard to meet people. I've had generally okay luck finding older people to talk to in Drinking Night. Though they are usually drinking/drunk.
but you'll just have to world jump a lot to find a world that isn't cancer
it's a lot of luck to find a decent instance where people are actually talking normally
Yep I'm usually having a few beers but nothing too harsh. Just would like to experience Vrchat in a decent adult manner, rather than seeing hundreds of teens in front of mirrors talking trash and groping each other. But yeah I'll keep looking for a group. Thanks all. :)
Yeah. Last time I came to hub and a whole group of kiddos just totally annoyed me. I think, that maybe raising age limits to those of social network (18+) would help.
And make the user enter birth date in registration. I don't know, how the registration form looks now, but when I came, there were just fields for username, email and password and a "I read TOS" checkbox.
Really.... Like a teen doesn't know how those fields work.
you'll remove more than half the playerbase
That is a "little" problem. And I see no solution to that.
There could be a 18+ server which would solve a lot of issues.
@covert blade think you could make a wedding world?
Yeah.
@pseudo rivet
That would be pretty good, but I don't think that devs want to maintain two release servers.
@vocal shard Negative
You two think an 18+ server would do much?
help
I have very little experience in making worlds and the stuff I do is not specifically intended for others
@covert blade awww
https://i.imgur.com/teplbRM.jpg what i do?
Not so much - imposters are everywhere.
Yea I do. If by creating an account youd need age verification such as a credit card for example.
Take your parents credit card
Some teens even have their own.
Ok, easy - make them verify through their ID card.
Also what if someone doesnt have a CC?
Yeah... no. You definitely dont want to do that.
But that is overboard.
Yeah there's mostly thirsty teenagers, furries, and memesters
Really? With a statement saying VRchat on it? I'd kill my kids if they did that.
I'm sure there are other ways of age verification if not a cc
"Ok, easy - make them verify through their ID card." Is easy yes, if you just care about ONE country that actually supports that
(Still all the data protection things aside)
Slowly back off out of the convo
My group I roll in youngest is 16 and oldest like 30
goddamn rock sand
Yeah. That would kill the international availability.
Lmao im not giving vrchat my personal details fuck off normie
@covert blade erm yes I would as a responsible parent.
And EU wouldn't make it easy... thank you, GDPR!
Killing your kids = responsible?
Maybe if you weren't toxic youd get along with ppl younger than you
^ @ΒLost
Fuck sake.. guess I'm talking to kids on here too. I'm out.
hey how i download VRC SDK 2017 ?
;-;
I don't see any toxicity here.
Bro I'm 25 just not an asshole
I'm 23. No, you shouldn't kill people
Jesus christ it's a figure if speech..
Especially your kids, and you should absolutely not mention doing that in a public Discord server
*Figure of speech
Omg get a grip. It's a figure of speech
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Where is this going...
You said that already....
Dude you shouldn't threaten teenagers it doesn't make you look cool
@tight spade https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk
Threaten how??
Got to assert physical dominance over literal children
Wtf
Dude.. killing your own children.. that's dark man...
Chill everyone! I really don't like the tension building here!!!!
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Air - Quotes!
Muscle tension.
Alternative to complain you can wonder around vrchat and just talk to ppl and you'll likely meet someone your age eventually
I don't even know how long it has been already since I ran into kids
I fooled all of you!
Ban all the vrchat babies
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i saw lolathon
and did lolathon saw you ?
Ran into Lola like three times now
But he only ever runs around in his meme avatars so like
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' I ran into Lola'
Who?

Lola is just spamming all his stuff to get a reaction
Pretty much
quite annoying.
Who is Lola?
A streamer
lolathon
Aka one of those people who just try to get a reaction out of you because other players are just content basically
a vrchat streamer that actually do something instead of looking at a mirror
Isn't that most streamers
It is
Hmmm
it is but at least he make some stuff to show off from time to time
People looking for content surrounded by people who are desperately trying to get noticed
Which is why I mostly look down upon people streaming
lolathon is alright
He has a mic but doesn't use it ingame
moons avatars are funnier imo
Goddamn that person and he's on my friends list too
Then again, I didn't know Moon was a streamer until later
I avoid those streamers like the plague
Quite sad because I'm sure they are quite decent if they didn't just try to go for content
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I just know that if they keep shoving blue gnomes into my face I won't be stickin' around with 'em for very long
I usually leave as soon as I see them
All their followers are going to join and the instance will just be unplayable
Well, I'm not that deep into the VRChat YouTuber and Streaming scene so most of 'em I won't recognize
I once ran into VRTrapman while he was just chilling without streaming and he was like half a different person kind of
and also oathmeal and lanfear
The vast majority of them do put on an act for the stream. Off stream they're very different.
I usually end up blocking the streamers I meet
Which usually makes them annoying
but you rarely see them off stream unfortunately, so you usually just have a bad experience with them
I don't know most YouTubers or streamers. Usually if they and their orbiters join, I shy away in the corner and eventually leave. They're usually loud and not really my personality.
Although if I ever meet any when they aren't streaming and their fans aren't joining they're usually chill
So most of the people I know who are streaming are just, playing the game
Not doing anything special just for the stream
pretty much what you should do while streaming
Jamie, you're a bean
And then there's people who just use silly avatars all the time
That's nice the first time, after the 3rd time I'm kinda done with it though
you can also use an anti stream shader π
wait what is that svel
Probs something that is equally as annoying as the people streaming
I just block the streamers cause I would probably end up having them banned
it's a shader that only works when you look at it through the camera/stream-camera
I like Nagzz21's VRChat Adventures. Shame he discontinued the series. Just catching up, what I haven't seen.
what about the streamers that stream through "first person view"
so the streamer will see nothing special but the people watching the stream will see the image i decided to overlay
imo its like someone doing a vlog irl
aka annoying
not really that annoying for me
my preffered way of watching streams is when they have 3rd person view and 1st person view. So you can see it like they see everything and an extra view angle for the stream
I prefer playing the game rather than watching streams
I wanna meet people myself, not watch someone do it
I just wanna know the fuck people manage to have proper setups with their OVRToolkit
Sometime back during the population surge of 2018 when there were regular service outages, I remember getting stuck in an instance (user-user networking was fine, but vrc API was down, so world switching, logging in, etc didn't work) and a bunch of us long time users were out in a public instance and we had some small-time streamer with us and ended up playing some party games and stuff while the servers came back online.
Also yes Sasha 1000% agree. If I want to have an interaction I want to do it myself, not watch other people do it, like why?
The only streamers I watch are meme streamers because the avatars are funny
people who are shy i guess
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or people who can't afford a VR headset
Which would make sense if VRChat was VR exclusive
Desktop VRC > Twitch Streams
Desktop is pretty bad
most people are on desktop π
I rather watch someone have fun than not have fun in VRChat
Before I even think about wasting time watching a stream, I'd rather spend that time being ingame myself
^
I do have VR and Fullbody though
I've got a used Lenovo explorer and it's actually pretty good
If I can't be in VRC in VR for whatever reason I'd rather go play an actual game.
To me VRC isn't a game at all, it's where I go to hang out with friends.
There is only a single person who I would consider watching their streams, and that is someone I actually know myself
For all the shit people give WMR it isn't awful, just not as good as the rest.
I sometimes watch streams when I got nothing else to do because 1. I'm lazy 2. my internet is slow and it takes forever to load worlds and avatars and 3. I often don't have anyone to join on and then I'm bored and just exit out of vrc again
Also, to be fair
User xbox controller when on desktop. Mouse + keyboard have less functions.
people who are bored at work or can't play
With controller, it is really a lot better.
The only thing that changes is that you can rotate objects, assuming the world creator allowed it
Not a huge game changer for me imo
Pretty funny to do tho
They can, with a controller
Only streams I've watched that weren't painfully cringy are event streams where the focus isn't on a single person, or is to act as a portal through to what's going on, like the community meetup streams.
controllers are shite
Ahh, do I see a member of "Purge desktopers" club?
Subjective opinion
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Not implemented.
Yeah, but why not
Amnesia has the rotation of objects by holding down a key and moving your mouse
they don't have hands
Vote for it on canny and pray the mighty VRPill.
VRChat has it for controllers
so it makes sense
No, it doesnt
Canny LMAO
Controllers aren't hands either and it works
Amnesia has object rotation with KBM
canny more like never implemented
Is there any value index users?
Value?
valve
value index
Valve probably, also yes me hi
yes I have the value index
no
Considering the quality of the BMR earspeakers, 100% yes absolutely
BMR?
They seem to be quietly fixing that
Balanced Mode Radiators, a hybrid speaker design.
I wish you could take off the speakers tbh
You can
You can
they just screw on
I don't mean in that way
then in what way
Taking it off without having a goddamn screw
a plug of some sort, being able to take it off whenever you want to
I hate going back to on-ear speakers after using the index for a bit
I wish I could try the index, but I don't know anyone near me that has one :/
I'm sure it sounds awesome. My only concern is when I play at night and noise leaking when others are trying to sleep
Also, I wonder if it's possible to turn off the directional sounds on the speakers
like having no surround sound
I would just like a VR headset.
You haven't gotten your socialism money yet
When you enter highschool you will get it
Take my quest ( jk) π
@vocal shard The noise leak doesn't have any significant range. If they're in a different room to you it will not be an issue at all.
Cool
The volume has a really strange falloff to it, probably because of the speaker & back design.
https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/index/deep-dive/ear-speakers
If you haven't had a read of this I suggest doing so, goes into a lot of detail on the designing and subtler features of the earspeakers.
Actually really curious about those speakers
Would like to try it some day
But i'm also wondering why haven't we seen similar third party solutions just yet
Valve did have custom drivers made for theirs, so the set in the Index may not be exactly from off the shelf parts.
Btw, fun fact about WMRs in Czech Republic - it is usually like this:
- new WMR is announced with international release
- Czech e-shops list it as waiting for
- it releases, but not in Czech Republic; shops still list it as waiting for
- the manufacturer discontinues it, but Czech e-shops still wait for the Czech release
I know it, because I looked JFF at models listed on one of our e-shops. Over half of them got already discontinued and the shops still give "waiting for" status on the listing.
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Anybody having troubles whit loading youtube vids into VRChat?
You need to update your youtube-dl most likely
It's inside the streaming assets folder in your vrchat folder and you can find a new version from google
I can provide longer instructions if you need but that's the short version
Its every world i go where it wont load anything in
Yeah that's most likely youtube-dl problem I'll dm you better instructions on what to do
Hey, quick discussion on modified clients
I just learned that they're a thing, and for a while too
has VRC dev dealt with any of them?
why are they still around?
When you deal with one, another pops up, that does it another way. To stop them, it would require a pretty big "anti-cheat" system, but that would hinder the performance. That is my view.
C# was not a language that accounted for security, though it has improved with AOT/IL2CPP
That isn't in vrchat live though, only vrchat beta is using that
I've seen one that's sold for 18.99, which seems kinda absurd to me
to pay for something that might stop working sooner or later
People are idiots
let alone, unofficial and discouraged by the devs
It will break and the entire skillset of the mod author won't be useful to break the AOT compiled version that's coming 
So when should we expect that modded clients would finally not work anymore?
or can't be made anymore
Totally stopped? I think never, but reduced when the next update comes.
Nothing is unbreakable.
Since the beta has no release date, that's not really answerable
I understand that the practice will never be stopped, but what I would like is to see it get heavily reduced to the point of being no longer in the greyarea
as it is now
hey
Sure, nothing is unbreakable, but the current mod author's don't know how to hack a native game. Not to mention that even if they did, the amount of time required is greatly increased. Definitely not worth bothering considering low profit and low gain from it. People with that skillset hack csgo and overwatch, not vrchat.
I don't mind clients as long as they don't have the stupid shit
i hate the portal placing features and other malicious shit that people think is considered as "fun"
yes, generally the malicious features that I don't approve of
Just in case it's unclear to anyone, use of any client modifications are against the TOS and can result in a ban, no matter how 'harmless' you think it is.
It also opens you up to potentially bad shit because wow running untrusted code on your system? Hello malware & more.
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Very true, but I won't disapprove of people using clients to improve their experience
That said, you're free to do whatever the fuck you like with SteamVR itself as that is not part of VRChat.
unfortunately, some VRC players are paying 18.99 for the modded client
woa
Just release an official mod that sends email of whoever logs in to be banned
Yep, overlays and api tools (or API tools in the overlay π ) are allowed
vn
That is making profit from someone else's code! Sue that SOB moder!
Lol dude you should hear me talking, I swear like there's no tomorrow π
Hopefully we will actually get improvements than just having clients/mods cracked down on
Don't know what should I think about ReShade, but to be safe, I won't use it.
I like ReShade, but I don't mind the rule of thumb of not using it in MP games
Il2cpp luckily doesn't just break clients, but provides a potential for significant performance gains.
Ha, in a game that makes heavy use of community shaders and legacy support? Not gonna happen sadly.
I was being half-sarcastic there
Oh man, another content wipe? I'd be down for that π€£
another?
I really like Vulkan. You can do some really high performance things with a multi threaded render pipeline(s).
5.3 to 5.6

- please bring on the content wipe, we need it, there is so much fucking trash now
- I would love to hang out with you if you're as foulmouthed as you say.
I would wonder what would really happen if all modifications that people have done to the game suddendly just dissapeared
all the edgies would leave and move on to another game to hacc
That would make peace - the crashers and crazy particle/shader vision manipulators are really annoying.
I genuinely think that a content wipe is practically suicide for the game lol
just put a worker that downloads every avatar, then checks it for crashing or extremely laggy shit, and just deletes it off the server, giving a tempban to the user the amount of days equivalent to the number of avatars that they had deleted.
tfw death to unlimited favorites though
me when I see somsone scrolling through for 20 mins, and then they just bring up some random public avatar
Oh no, whatever shall I do when I can't favourite more than 16 horrid avatars that cause a 20+ fps drop
Oh nooooo
Gallium I am the exception
That's impossible to check automatically. You would end up banning people with intricate systems because it's "too laggy"
all my favs rn are optimized booth models people have accidentally uploaded as public
I have 10 felixes in my favorites
I view it as "I aint the one who uploaded them, not my problem"
we'll just wait for Avatars 2.0 to force a content wipe
Pretty much the only two in my favourites I even slightly care about are this disasterous ARK otter port that squishes in on a gesture, and the Tesco Value version of my avatar someone semi-accidentally made.
It farts glitter.
The devs have done so much to prevent content loss in the 2018 update there's no way they would say fuck it and wipe it anyways
Unless a change to the graphics system has more benefits than trashing a load of old content.
and to be fair if you don't keep your source files to be able to re-upload it's your own fucking fault.
Well there's a difference it "5.6 stuff breaking" and a full content wipe
I need to make a Walmart Great Value version of my avatar lmfao
It's fully understandable if old stuff breaks but a full blown content wipe would just make the game empty for like 1-2 months
vrchat quest
Fuck the quest.
wow, close-minded much
It wouldn't, because it didn't with 5.3-5.6
Everything had to be re-uploaded but there was a long transition period.
do not put your penis inside the quest
Hmm
I think, that content wipe would be around the same disaster seriousness as purging all desktop players, like some VR purist want on canny.
If they were to do a long transition period then we need better info on our avatars. You can check which unity versions your world is uploaded on but not for avatars.
At the moment if you want info on your avatar you need some crazy naming sequence to remind yourself
as always
vr players, fine
vr mutes, fine
desktop players, fine
desktop mutes, can you not...
It's called VRChat either you VR or you Chat, or both.
Lel
ERPChat
How about no
It was a case of everything had to be re-done. Nothing came through from 5.3
I'm sure y'all will love this
let's just hire yanderedev as a vrchat dev
he'll fix the game
While a content wipe may be eventually inevitable I don't think hoping for one is healthy
Oh god no.
@gilded helm Yeah. Best additions - maniacal laugh button and ability to stab other players. π€£
panty shots
You can get those anyways though.
wait that already exists
I just realized
if there are no clients then there would be a possiblity
for a true 18+ world
Heh
purge the clients
people use noclip and shit to go through barriers
Nerds
oh fuck I forgot playspacemover is a thing
hm?
a mute desktop user ?
easy block for me
I don't need a random rock dropping my FPS for no reason
The actual, collided position could be used to make people occluded from there not render.
man this game never cease to amaze me
Only time when I am found muted in game and never touching voice button is, when I do world exploration and accidently stumble into portal to public instance. Otherwise I use invite only instances to be able to explore and not bother other people in the world.
When not exploring, I am pretty talkative.
same
@devout berry you know you can set it so you don't need to constantly hold the talk button, right?
good the talk button
Yeah, but my parents and brother don't like when the mic is picking them up, so I minimalize by having it on PTT.
And on the controller it is not as annoying as on keyboard.
If I remember correctly it's on B, and hitting any other button while holding this one down is pretty easy.
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Question: how do I find somewhat normal world's that aren't either empty or full of people not really talking and just showing off meme characters?
go into a hot world pref first 10
click on like the 4th instance with a pop that is 70% of player cap
Alrighty, thanks.
ee I'm trying to find a Zero Two avatar that has her red uniform and white jacket ._.
apparently though there is no avatar world that has it :( feelsbadman
how come most of the avatars I try to use have their eyes closed by default and pressing the trigger buttons opens them.
it sounds like there might be an issue with your controls
I use oculus touch controllers
That feel when you were just in a great world but then an error happens and your game closes unexpectedly and you're thrown back into the wmr loading area
Is there a way to go back to the exact world you were just in?
yes, lookup VRChat Rejoin Tool
Sounds like a modification which isn't allowed and might take your password. Well, potentially
it looks at your game log to get the IDs of the last instances you were in and starts the game with the link to it
it is NOT a game mod
@lime sage Hello there 
Please submit a moderation report and dont call out names publicly here.
See #moderation-reports for more info
That needs to be sent to admins
Thank you
For the time being, I guess you should find somebody with a gigabit connect to laugh at him, doubt he can take that down
also @bronze plaza try switching to the wmr for steamvr beta, or steamvr beta itself, ik there was a random crash bug that got fixed for wmr at some point
FPaul, can you DM me
a gigabit connection doesnt safe you against real DDOS's
I have his information
no @lime sage i just gave you the place to read into and it tells you everything else
#moderation-reports <- see this
im not a ingame moderator
10-4
True, but if he's reading peoples IPs to them chances are he's a dumb teenager getting a kick out of a client he downloaded from a script kiddie forum
he does have a client
Please follow the instructions in #moderation-reports
he can see it in VR chat, he teleports and is immune to lobby host kicks
And that he isn't really a threat. Immune to kicks sound strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a security hole there lol
If you have his info, call his mom and tell her that her son is being mean to people online π
2000+ hours of VR in VRChat and other applications, can play for 8 hour marathon sessions and not even flinch. But 5 minutes of Minecraft in VR makes me feel like I'm going to puke and require emergency headset removal. How can you mess up VR so badly?
wrongπchannel
vivecraft or bedrock?
Wow game why u du me like that?
I'ma known user now~
Bedrock MC felt pretty good so I dunno what you're saying
Minecraft VR is a 3rd party mod isn't it? That's probably how
or is there a first party one
Bedrock is 1st party and very smooth
90 fps 100% of the time. It doesn't handle roomscale very well though.
Never tried vivecraft
I played vivecraft
It's just.. vr minecraft
But it has lots of settings to play around with
official minecraft vr build lets you have "a stand" according to my friend
So it's probably a looot more customizable than bedrock
basically your player character is actually bound to the world / center of your playspace instead of your hmd + controllers
heck
so you can walk beyond bounds, through walls, and generally extend your range of affect with wallhacks
that sounds pretty bad
vivecraft lets you do pretty much what you'd expect
Fuck sitting
you can swing your stuff manually or click your trigger to do things
mining blocks is super slow if you swing
I am waiting to get an RTX card before diving into minecraft vr
rtx vr sounds like trouble
I'm lagging playing vivecraft with smooth lighting turned on lol
Both increase the GPU load lol
Gotta turn it off so it becomes block based
Well, I always tend to get the nVidia 80 series cards so . . .
Hi everyone! Has anyone bought controller grips for an Oculus Rift cv1? I canβt seem to find any for the older controllers
well, they dont make those anymore, no wonder its rare.. or just downright extinct
Do the ones for the rift S fit the CV1 controllers?
I guess it depends what type of grip you're talking about
I think the design are pretty similar between cv1 and rifts/quest?
Does anyone know how to search for worlds? The website search doesn't appear to be working well.
Does that search any better than the website though?
I'm told it searches descriptions but that might not be true.
it can search by tags
i hate when video players work for me, but not my friend. Or the other way around.
relatable
it seems to just be certain videos though
some might take longer to load for others, as thats done localy
I'm looking for good games in vrc. any recommendations?
I don't know where to ask this. I'm looking for good quality furry avatars ingame. any recommendations?
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Search for furry in the search
best way I have found is find others with anthro avatars and ask them
or commission a custom one
i got voicemod pro and it says i have to wait a few hours is that normal?
is it normal that youtube playlist wont work in vrchat ?
i can only play normal videos which is kinda annoying to always take off the vr-headset to play the next video / song
also do you know if there is a player for music in vrchat?
for soundcloud for example
wish my beatles avatar world would leave community labs soon, its been in there way longer than i expected
First you go on the Ed Sullivan show
Anyone else experience others being able to clone your avatar when it is unchecked locally for you?
had that happen tonight. I had to check and uncheck it for myself to get it to be actually off.
Since modified clients are used by half the players, I would guess that you actually had the setting properly working but they can just ignore it and clone anyway
one of two things, there are clients that can clone any public, and sometimes the thing actually does scuff
ya seems to be the later since checking and unchecking it turned it off for others as well
used by half the players
@vocal shard Got any proof for that stat?
no
lol
Worst place for the discussion, but I wonder if the "force clone" just grabs the avatar ID and changes your model or if it actually makes use of the clone function and exploits it
if occams razor is anything to go by, its probably the first since you can even do it without a client
yup
you are ther for
@still lark my own experience when i go to any random instance and I won't detail more π
π
owo
why is it so hard to find good male avatars π
Because everyone wants to be the "cute" anime girl
I tried using a anime girl avatar and people kept asking why I was using a female avatar
all the male avatars that pop up for me are the eboy and wolf boy ones
Yeah
I always go with male models
Even if it's a pokemon, they sometimes have gender differences
yeah
Catch me as long horned sudowoodo or smaller abdomin scizor
If it's not them I'm either a different male character or a spartan
Such as the recent AZ model I made or the pyro
Have you tried inevanables world
I don't think so
He makes them specifically fornVR
I'll check it out
Pokenexus
Or even my stadium I made
I gotta update that world but I got some mons there
you made one?
Ye
neat
I mean they are just basic rigs
Some with dynamic bones
But its better than the generic rigs with game animations
yeah
is it public?
ah alright
LOL?
"NETWORK MISSING
Something has gone wrong with the network! Maybe our servers are down, maybe you're offline, maybe it's just a horrifying clown-packed surprise.
You could try again?
200 : "
things break, everything about this is funny
but what I want to know is the meaning of that "200" at the end
There are 7359 users in VRChat currently
Well
and it's back
but "200" for an error π
that's almost as good as the classic microsoft error dialog saying success
Lmoa
Did VRC break?
Scroll up homie
There are 7215 users in VRChat currently
anyone mind helping with avatar stuff ?
What are going on whit all the clients?
Nothing much
The VRChat team dosent care that people are using them?
Not that they don't care, but they work on port to unity 2018, which should reduce number of them. Shouldn't that easy to hack as this version.
To stop them now, it would require some technics, that would make the performance worse.
From c# to c++ so all modified clients will be broken
Ah okey
Until someone make one in c++
I just started to see more people that fly or use force cloning and one that could respawn people
And also saw one on steam that said someone got some personal information from him
How long you thing it takes before they are done?
Don't know.
But we can go play beta.
Just persuade your friends to go to beta release with you.
- I think that there will be less annoying kids on beta release.
The kids arent the problem
Mostly the people using clients making everybody unsafe
Yep. I meant that just the way, that by using beta you get bonus of less annoyances. And yeah, you will run from the hackers this way.
Hackers are on release only, aren't they?
I only played on released and thats where i seen them
But whats diffrent whit beta then?
that no one plays on it as its only for testing really
New features, can have bugs.
And, it is dedicated on it's own server from normal release.
So it arent really a place to meet new people?
Nope. You have to bring your own friends, because on beta are just volunteer testers.
But if you cannot wait anymore, you can try it.
Think im just going to stick whit the already released then.
Damn I'm absolutely loving VRChat I'm brand new and am only playing for 2 days on desktop mode with no vr. I've always been terrible at communication and this is just too fun. I do hope the new release solves a lot of the hacked clients.
well some things will get fixed but not everything
Something like avatar stealing cant go away because of how tech works and how unity works
Yeah that's not a big concern for me but I get why it is for people.
Ive met soo many cool people already and it's only been 2 days... I played for like 16 hours today... or yesterday i guess
@sour ruin you got alot more to explore and try
Oh I'm sure lol
Took me some time but i found a group of lovely people that im talking whit nearly every day now
That's awesome I talked to several groups of people today for hours each.
If my headset has a problem and is disconnected, my windows sound change back to another device. Even if I change it back, I can't hear anything in VRC before restarting it.
And usually, SteamVR dies as well, which is only fixed by restarting my computer.
If any of my trackers time out when i use FBT, my controllers switch places, making my feet trackers act like controllers, this makes it impossible to interact with anything.
Any way to solve these problems? I might be a firmware version behind on some of the devices and maybe I can dedicate controllers to a specific role? Besides that I'm not sure what to do
@sour ruin i will say that you should keep being yourself. Just keep talking whit people and one day you may find a group that you really like
It sucks to having to restart my computer, configure sound settings, start steamVR to turn on all devices as about half of them are on when my computer is, then close steamVR to close all devices, then turning them on in the right order, and then starting VRChat
Not gonna lie, I'm a little intimidated to try VRchat. It looks so vast and complicated in terms of making avatars. Can't seem to get a Ditto one working.
ironically enough something like a ditto is way more complex then a humanoid avatar so your not really wrong
I've seen ditto avatars on Youtube too. So I know they work, lol.
They work, but are not easy to get going and take more then one tutorial to properly make
It's a bit of a hurdle to learn, but once you learn it you can do most things
They are mostly made as a generic rigged Avatar but you don't have access to gestures
So what people do is use a dummy humanoid armature but that's out of scope for a totally new person
Idk if this is the best place to ask but anyone who uses full body how do I stop so much hip jiggle? I have the track strap around my hips pretty tight and from me just jigging around, not really dancing much it jiggles a lot compared to other people no matter the avatar I've found
Do you happen to be a thicker person?
And this would prob be best in #full-body-tracking
@umbral reef you know any good tutorials for making humanoid creatures.
@hardy acorn if the strap is secure its probably tracking fun times
check lights and reflective surfaces in your room
@vocal shard I should have checked over the channels, thanks for sending me in the right direction :')
@desert stratus I don't have the best setup and I'm using 1.0 base stations so could just be up to bad tracking yeah
reflective surfaces will cuck you over
idk about lighting but generally you want even lighting throughout your room
not 100% dark, nor 100% sunlight
I already got rid of anything reflective, I'm even turning my phone over just in case LOL
Guess I'm just gonna have to mess around with my setup and lighting and see what the other channel says etc.
I had that issue, if none of the other trackers are doing it, it's not likely the room.
Where are the receivers for the trackers positioned?
Yeah my foot trackers seem to be okay, not great because old base stations but better than the hip does
The issue in my case was because the receivers were too close to each other. Spaced them out, all the issues went away.
I usually just pop them on top of my laptop keyboard, I have spaced them but unfortunetly due to using a laptop I'm a little short on usb ports
Make sure there's at least 10cm between them and don't put them on/next to anything that may reflect the signal, e.g. a metal laptop
usb hub / extension time
Ahh god damn I didn't even think of the laptop having reflections, gonna have to do a mess about once I can get to it
I have a usb hub but I thought that could be messing me about too
USB extensions should be a part of toolbox of every VR user. You never know, when the USB screws you.
both powered and unpowered
either or os better on a case by case by situation by circumstance by hardware by peripheral (individual) scenario
What am I saying? Extensions for everything the setup needs should be part of VR user's toolbox!
since you have to balance range with overloading bandwidth
Usually it boils down to graphic cable extensions, USB extensions and power extensions.
And for USB and graphic both active and inactive types.
Using a powered USB hub at the end of one 6ft works well, but audio doesn't make through the first unpowered extension.
An unpowered 10ft HDMI cable handles quite well, at least when an Odyssey+ is on the end of it. Not sure about others.
@hardy acorn no problem
The receivers come with extension cords anyway.
I love this game!
Good for you
what did i miss?
Everything
hey guys i cant load peoples avatars fast any problem with that
it happens on both vr and pc
it takes a while to load 2 people
its probably not my gpu i have a 970
must be your internet
my internet is slow and it takes me forever to load avatars and worlds
I don't know i have 150 to 250 mbps
my friend has a lower gpu and lower mbps and still loads all characters ):
What CPU? Also 970 is lowest possible card to run VR. It's not surprising you can't run the heavy unoptimized avatars that stress out 1080s and 2080s
That should be okay, last critical part. How much RAM?
16 gb
my pc is the Rog g20 970
you can read all the specs in the ROG website
i deleted the game and re installed it
that didnt work
my Vr headset is the vive
Are you around 85% full on an SSD?
hmm
Or more
have 400 or so left on my 1.8 tb
Oof
You should never use above 80% on SSD space.
Random question: Why not?
because
Wow
problem is
(jk idk why)
i've been running with issues ever since my pc fell on its side
get a new 10k$ pc
bro
That is an entirely different problem
give me money
Pff, earn it yarself :D
I only have to tell you that I have a probably 10year old cpu and an rx560 and you would already know that I don't have any money myself :/
SSDs use free space to manage physical file positions
also fairly sure that SSD thing is outdated with new ones now
If you use up over 80%, the performance will degrade.
i noticed that
Nope, manufacturers still don't overprovision enough because they can make storage sizes larger
I'm over 50% I'm going to go delete files now
You basically leave no blocks for your files to get dumped into for temp write.
so what your saying is i format my pc?
No actually you should see what's taking up your space there.
Just do some cleaning, no need to format
Use Treesize to check.
treesize?
I think one of my fans stopped working
It will tell you exactly where all your space is going.
Or du -hd 1
Second treesize
All you non Linux users here....
Gives you some nice visuals too
Pro-tip : Hibernation takes up space so disabling it is a good idea. You get about 4 to 6GB of space back.
WSL is great
i missed even more-
I'll dual boot Linux for development otherwise I never use it
@snow wadi if i restart my pc it takes atleast 4-5 minutes max 6 just to load up
Yikes
Yeah that's because there aren't enough blocks to temp write.
Get WSL, so many basic tasks that either require complex powershell or more third party software can be done in a simple default ubuntu executable
So what's happening is it's hot swapping between your RAM and SSD way too much.
hmmmmmm
hey uhh does anyone know if theres a way to find someones steam account from the Steam_numbershere thats on their vrchat profile on the website? was my first vrchat friend years ago and we havent talked in a loong time xd
If they're using a VRChat account, no.
i think ill need a new SSD
feelsbad
rip wallet ):
well they have the numbers after their name so ithinks its a steam name
steam_ID is a Steam ACC, not a VRC one
i dont get those who have vrc accounts
What about those?
but keep the letters after their name
hmm i dunno. o well. i tried doing a steam ID finder of his but meh
1.4 tb on windows tf?
You just take the ID and paste it into the URL for Steam ACC's
@gilded helm I'm more curious about people who merge their Steam account, have a new name, but for some reason on the website it'll still say it's a Steam acc
with magic usually and a lot of luck
I've seen people change the user name of their Steam acc like that.... or remove the random letters from their name even though it still says it's a steam acc
oh ye i tried that but it said profile could not be found, yet on the steamid finder site theres a username and profile pic preview
@snow wadi Sorry for @ing you but it says 1.4 tb on windows
honestly I have no idea
check your temp folder
^
Actually Ccleaner can chuck your rubbish out.
Settings->System->Storage->cleanup
go where the tmp folder is, right click on it and go into property
ccleaner KEK
and check the site of that folder
There should be a program called disk cleaner
on your computer, it deletes all that shit
alright im opening up ccleaner
Ccleaner does the same thing... >_>
xD
hmmst
why would you download a program that does the same job
Ccleaner removes a lot more stuff
Thing is the built in one doesn't clean everything.
like the cache from internet browsers
and it's basically idiot proof since you can just press one button and it does everything for you
true retard proof
And it most certainly does not clear out broken registries.
or just temp
Just get an app that needs one click and you're done.
ive never actually needed ccleaner
Or system 32
or Windows
so i went to blizzard launcher to see if destiny is still installed it said no on the app it says it is
Just kidding
Me neither. Chrome storage clear and windows built in storage clear is equivalent.
ye lol
cache clearing extensions are king tho
i used that shit a lot for my web dev classes
hm
CCleaner just said i could save 58 gb
Protip: Hold down the refresh button with dev tool open.
I found random games i never played that are over 50 gb
i expected way more than 58 tbh
Also do you only have that one SSD for storage?
also dude
@wet sluice Dev tool? You mean Shift + I?
Yeah .
is your "download" folder full too ?
wait lemme check
if you have useless stuff there just remove stuff
You need to invest in another storage device.
And properly delete files that you don't use at all
So you don't dump all of heaven and hell on the same SSD.
Yes, or F12
I should really get a hard drive huh
Hold the refresh and pull down with it open
Seeing that you managed to have 400mb left? Yes I believe so xD
Single page clearing
Just built-in to chrome
You should leave the SSD that has windows on it for minimal apps and storage but not as everything else as well.
I like having the devtools on the side though
of the page I'm on
so it's easier to use the extension
fuck responsive design
Delete previous win file after an update
Hmm, but isn't the refresh button is always there? Do you mean an extension to the dev tools?
Thanks guys im at 600 gb right now (:
Also I think it might be a good idea to move this to #user-support-old now, since this is now going way off track xD
Just a chrome extension Aria
the refresh button is there but your browser gets smaller
which can be annoying when you want to work with responsive design
which is like the only time when you actually clear cache for that shit

Have you had this issue before?
Yes months ago too
Hmm tried clearing your Cache ingame already?
What about your safety settings?
none
funny you mention safety settings
to survive sundays i now crank up my safety to the max
avatar show rate is medium
and only friends and people who have show avatar are seen
so its now a sea of grey robots but at least i get stable framerate now
yeah it be like that
but now i dont crash every 20-30 mins
hopefully I can have a stronger PC by May
also how does the open beta role work?
are there like specific beta builds you can take to get it?
or is it if you have used the beta a bit bewm
Head on down to the open beta channel and read it, you get the role and then you'll get notified of open beta builds & important info and instructions on access to the open beta.
Turning off custom animations stops 99.9% of badness. Disabling Very Poor avatars results in a world of robots these days π¦
The perf blocker would be much more useful with an option to filter with it being checked against the rest state of the avatar. So even if someone has a few disabled objects that otherwise would mark it as very poor, with them not active they're not very poor right now so shouldn't be blocked.
disabling animations will also sadly remove all expressions and cute quirks like that
I run with animations off and it makes public instances bearable since there isn't ridiculous amounts of unfunny memey bullshit flying around 24/7

i play with everything on and there arent too many memey bullshit anymore regardless 
Depends who you bump into.
I usually have safety off and it is usually fine
Then again, I pretty much only join on friends
Yea, I leave safety off unless it's pub hopping time
it's always off for me
I prefer to choose people that I want to block, there aren't that many usually
Nice part of the saftey settings is it doesn't hide everything. Grey robots still arnt scaled properly with the avatar
Last time I played, there was user with avatar, that got songs in it and visualizations for them. And these visualizations were full of particles screen shaking, blinking and dimming. It annoyed me and was kinda making the game not navigable. Had to use safe mode.
But I guess I'm mostly lucky that I don't run into too many people having stupid stuff going on that forces me to use it
That's something I honestly hate, same with the loading avatar
I dunno where to look while they load in, and it can take a while for avatars to load
That really depends on your hardware and what you've got running in the bg
When you have covered screen in shaders and particles, it is kinda hard to do anything.
Animations off for non friends is typically the best though
Until you meet that one person that has a spawn in screen space shader that won't go away because you turned off animations
Aka, the type of person I will block when I find out who it is
When all it takes is one monster to avatar to bring you to "unable to use the UI to hide people" state, just hiding them doesn't work
Then ya hide all the avatars via safety settings, select him, manually hide, show everyone again
if you drop below 20 fps, you also cannot aim at people anymore
the player capsule just breaks
Beef up your PC or use perf settings
y'all dont use safety?
I think that a helpful function would be, that when you trigger safe mode, it would dump users in room into a txt file and mark those doing any animation at the moment.
Seems useles
Me not but it's usually fine in the instances I am in
I don't go to public Pugs btw
xD
But sometimes that is something I accept if it helps getting my frames up
i only have avatars on for known and trusted users
Usually when this type of animation starts, no one is able to do anything. So it would mostly catch just the offender.
just leave everything on π²
I'll do that when I feel like having 20 fps
You're absolutely wrong about that.
Ranks =/= Performance
VR shortcuts?
It's catch anyone who is doing any animation
Takes away a lot of people though
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
is what I hinted at
I meant emote animations.
If the room is full of trusted it won't do anything
Including pointing smiling
it usually isn't
Usually is where I hang around
Those big anims are usually gestures.
It is if I go into a friends+
but if nobody is online and I go to a public world, nah
Usually doesn't happen for me
Though I sometimes do have days where there's just nothing going on at all
I mostly see visitors tbh
Huh
Dumping out users with playing emotes/gestures would help catching the offender, wouldn't it?
yup
Visitors tend to run around with stupid stuff more often than not 




