#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 962

crystal fossil Dec 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@languid beacon Last I tried 2factor, I had to use literally every time I used the website.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Like they don't have cookies.

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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cant you click remember me or trust this device

crystal fossil Dec 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Not when I did it last. I remembered wishing I could.

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I don't have a steam account. i log in with a vrc account via the oculus client

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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if youre really worried id say, just make the most ridiculous vrc password, connect it to a steam account with 2step

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because steam wont ask you ever, unless you log out

river fractal Dec 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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isn't the mass friend request stuff api abuse? it doesn't seem to be rate limited in any way

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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it was already a steam account but i merged it into a vrc account in order to have my stuff on Oculus Home

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Okay but please helppp, does anyone know anything about why my game crashes, constantly

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Either your graphics card or you are hanging out in The Box

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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?

vocal shard Dec 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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@river fractal its api abuse

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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I can play any other game i have tried

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Yeah, but VRC is user created client. They're the most stressful kind of games

hybrid zenith Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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where is sending links allowed

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aka pictures

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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If I upgrade my processor will the graphics of my rift s improve?
Like it looks just fine on my pc, but on my rift s it is cancerous

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Links are allowed anywhere. No need to embed

hybrid zenith Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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oh

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/656913536349503513/660577552783638550/image0.png

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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my friend has a rift with the same gpu as me

hybrid zenith Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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is this fake or not

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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and he has no problems

river fractal Dec 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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they are bots, just block and ignore

hybrid zenith Dec 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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mk

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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No reason a pcvr headset would look different than the game running on the same computer in desktop mode

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unless you mean you're getting lower framerate

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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I have a I3-9100 F processor

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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What issue are you seeing in vr?

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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i got a friend request to i just blocked it and deleted the user from contacting me

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Its like very blurry

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Well that's just your lenses

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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How do I fix that?

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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clean your lenses, or get a headset with a higher resolution

ruby needle Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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make sure to the up the IPD correctly and that you have the HMD correctly on the head

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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it's a rift S. has no IPD

ruby needle Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Also, you might need a bit of time to learn how to focuss.

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I measured the IPD and changed it on the settings

ruby needle Dec 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Software IPD is still a IPD adjustment that can be off and worsen it Adeon cirHuh

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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So like I have no damn idea, let me get my microfiber cloth

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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from my experience software IPD helps address eye strain but doesn't change blur/focus sweetspot at all

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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so if there anything I can do to fix it other than buying a different one and cleaning it

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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if you have the headset on while changing it

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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is*

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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you can see a very clear difference

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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for me it makes everything seem to change depth, like on a Nintendo 3DS messing with the depth slider

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cubes look like flat rectangles etc

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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eh

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where have you tried it

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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only VRC

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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what headset

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Rift S

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classic rift did the same but also adjusted blur

worn nova Dec 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Quality still looks horrible

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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on wmr headsets its good though

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The only problem with wmr

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I guess it depends

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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is there seems to be issues with it that the vrc devs dont care about

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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you say the game looks blury, but i'm sure you can understand if it looks blury due to lens focus or blury as in pixelly?

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:38 PM

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like for example, the game crashing and messing up wmr portal

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everytime it crashes it tells me that since the game crashed i need to reinstall windows

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Because if you are using the steam version of VRC, it's possible you have the scaling tuned to a resolution lower than your headset

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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windows is sucking mega wiener rn

violet pelican Dec 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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is vrc crashing ?

rich dirge Dec 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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a lot

heavy sandal Dec 28, 2019, 8:47 PM

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ujtgatguif

snow token Dec 28, 2019, 9:25 PM

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So true

round fog Dec 28, 2019, 9:38 PM

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whats everyone up too

knotty smelt Dec 28, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@worn nova my rift was very blur - i use for one year - was replace twice because faulty - you will get use to it but only other way is upgrade - i have use vive pro (is ok) now in box unused because ipd software - I have now index and is awesome.

languid beacon Dec 28, 2019, 9:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/nickyoung-questionmarks-what-excuseme-huh-gif-4486363

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Glad it worked out for you!

feral ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 10:19 PM

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so what's up with random invites?

covert blade Dec 28, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Apparently people just trying to crash people who join their game

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:20 PM

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It's malicious, ignore and avoid

verbal hamlet Dec 28, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Someone who could be doing something a lot better with their time.

feral ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 10:21 PM

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how hard one has to try for attention seeking

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damn

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:21 PM

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You think people who do this really do?

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Either starved for attention or depressed to hell and too lazy to get better

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I can almost guarantee that these same people who hate vrchat spend all their day in it

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Yeeeep

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If i really hated this game i wouldn't play it

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i just hate how its managed despite most issues not really affecting me

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Better start ddossing the servers mic, that'll send them a message

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Tape a letter to a brick and throw it into an amazon webserver hosting building's window

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:24 PM

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lol its easier just spreading the good word 🙂

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more effective too

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I don't think it's necessarily people who don't like the direction the game is taking

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There's personal issues in the mix

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Oh it's definitely not

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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It's easier to just attract attention by being malicious

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:25 PM

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People often say they're "bored salty kids" but i can almost guarantee you these people are, at least age-wise, almost all adults

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most of the client users and malicious assholes I've met are sadly well into their 20s lol

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Maybe but not necessarily

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(that's true tho)

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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its really a lot more sad than them just being dumb kids

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:26 PM

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With some of them heavy alcoholism is also involved lol

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It is pretty sad

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Yeah they've got plenty of mental issues, if it was just some dumb kids trying to be funny it wouldnt be excusable but at least understandable

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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It wouldn't be consistent

vocal shard Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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wait what is vrchat doing that people disagree with?

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Too many things to list honestly.

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:27 PM

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But I wouldn't like to put bad morals into the same bucked as mental issues

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:28 PM

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oh true

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I'm plenty depressed most of the time and I don't feel like hurting other people with petty shit

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:28 PM

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i meant moreso the alcoholism you referred to

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but youre right

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One of the more consistent users ive seen and heard of doing just overall fucked up stuff is like....well into his 20s lol so are the e-girls that get in with the client user crowd

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and the edgy wannabe vigilante client users too

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it always seems like they're like...actual adults.

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:33 PM

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From my experience they are but i'm not sure if you can call them adults lol

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Because there's lots of petty childish behaviour involved

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Well I mean in the literal sense

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like they're the age of an adult yet feel the need to do that stuff. there's screwing around and being childish with friends and then there's being malicious to strangers for literally no reason lol

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Look at some of the worse chan crowd

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It's not much different

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:38 PM

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ah thats a good comparison actually

hollow gazelle Dec 28, 2019, 10:44 PM

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ive only recently gotten index for christmas and holy frick the difference is actually amazing.
im yet to play vrchat specifically.

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Vive.

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main motivation was the fact that my headset after 2 years finally gave up on me

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ive still got it just unplugged laying on my bedside.

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Yup full body pretty good

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its why im not playing atm, cause they charging.

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i use the vive wands still just because they are indestructable and easy to repair.

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good for beatsaber and gorn, the games which i like and my controllers dont.

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yeah my knuckles dont like being swung like a sword for 3 minutes straight

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but i use the knuckles for literally everything else, blade and sorcery, vrchat,

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clicking issue?

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nope, i had my knuckles before my index

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i can always click it, its just finnicky because i have short thumbs-

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just checked, i can click in any position

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the only thing with my setup that is a bit messy is my base stations, they are 1.0 still

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Take care of the box. You may need to RMA the controllers

hollow gazelle Dec 28, 2019, 10:55 PM

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im still super hyped for march, playing a full length half life game after all these years is a godsend.

ruby needle Dec 28, 2019, 10:55 PM

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batch 2 had some tweaks to it allrady i belive?

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I hope I can get my hands on some index controllers by march

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Maybe a new graphics card too

hollow gazelle Dec 28, 2019, 10:57 PM

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might need a spare pair of 2 gig ram sticks, just cause im like 2 gig below the ideal specs for Hl:A

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either way, im hoping i dont die of ping or something the moment i join.

ruby needle Dec 28, 2019, 10:57 PM

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2 gig sticks?

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is this the year 2k cirBaka

hollow gazelle Dec 28, 2019, 10:58 PM

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2 gig ram sticks.

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i already have 8 gig of ram, i dont need any more to run minecraft at 60 fps

ruby needle Dec 28, 2019, 10:58 PM

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back when a 4GB XP was the shit and you could only use 3,5gb of it

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cirBaka

hollow gazelle Dec 28, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Vive craft is pretty neato, other than its severe lacking of servers.

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Desktop minecraft with 200 mods is a pretty good flex.

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Like what can 16 gigs ram do with a proper rig ? What can it do which games that say a 8 gig ram computer with the best parts do? Just curious

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With games *

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Games are gonna use the ram they need

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If you have more nothing will change, if you don't have enough they can crash

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Oh ok thanks

pseudo basalt Dec 28, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Or it's gonna start using your hard drive to page some of that ram to use more than you have, which will just make stuff run slower

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

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What’s the most powerful rig anyone can use at this point of time what can it do

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For personal use

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Computer games let’s say

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Say for example cyber punk 2077

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On 110 FPS

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With no lag nothing just perfect frame rate etc

rough pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Games don't benefit much from what some of the more powerful rigs provide.
For example my desktop isn't designed as a gaming system at all, it works pretty well at being one, but when it comes to tasks way more intensive than gaming like photogrammetry or running neural networks it runs way better than a 'gaming' system.

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I have no idea what that is. Sorry I would love to learn what your talking about though

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Photogrammetry what is that?

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Is there YouTube videos about that kind of stuff?

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Basiaclly it depends on what tasks you want your PC to do

brazen girder Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 PM

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anyway where i can find ASL avatars?

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 PM

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What do you mean by ASL avatars?

shell basalt Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Do all rift s come with a mini displayport adapter? I didn't see one with mine

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 PM

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I’m just looking

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Holy crud that’s intense

brazen girder Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 PM

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avatars that have gestures for sign language, but idk how to make one myself

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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A gaming rig for example may not work as well for things like rendering

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is that a thing?

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Yeah I see your point in that totally this looks really cool

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I've only ever seen ASL users in avatars with the normal gestures

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I know a bit of asl

brazen girder Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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there was one world that used to have avatars designed for it, but i guess it got removed

tacit dust Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I don't know any

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Really? That's interesting

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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But I can’t sign with just a desktop frelsbadman

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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have you tried the ASL worlds?

brazen girder Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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yeah

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Maybe try asking someone in the ASL worlds if they know of any then

tacit dust Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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do an avatar with a drawng board

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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They don't want a drawing board, they want to speak ASL

peak cipher Dec 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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I want a vr set so I can do asl that would be so cool

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But going back to the photogrammetry that’s really really cool wowzers I’m really actually impressed

rigid crescent Dec 28, 2019, 11:35 PM

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I'd try asking around in the ASL worlds, and if there's no one there or no one knows, try joining one of the discords

rough pulsar Dec 28, 2019, 11:36 PM

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There's a fantastic free program called Meshroom that does it. I've used it a lot and with a good camera can get detail down to around 1mm out of it. Requires a Nvidia GPU since it uses CUDA.

lofty roost Dec 29, 2019, 12:17 AM

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i keep getting mentioned about these two "bots" that are allegedly ddosing and stealing personal avatars. anyone got anything about it? i think it's baseless but i just wanna know your opinions

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someone named aihitoru and "photon-free"

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 12:20 AM

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yep, baseless

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just block em

lofty roost Dec 29, 2019, 12:24 AM

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and i just got two friend requests by photon and a "littlegirl uwu"

ripe bough Dec 29, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Met a lot of people today! VRchat always brings good people if you treat other respectfully! So fun lol

lofty roost Dec 29, 2019, 12:24 AM

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epic .

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:34 AM

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i gotta get a sad/depressed girl avatar but idk how xD

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don't ask why but i got to

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:36 AM

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yeah they tried to add me too

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Anyone able to help me out with finding a Sad/Depressed girl avatar? xD

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:38 AM

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back in the day there was a saying fool me once and also a saying eye for an eye so take that for what you will

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:39 AM

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Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

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yea and an eye for an eye as to the three people who massed upon us ...

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not trying to revengeful

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thats not right

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:40 AM

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i mean i can't ask the person i know for help finding a sad female avatar as that person is the reason why i am sad

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so yeaaa xD i don't know how to find the sad/depressed chars yknow

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:41 AM

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but i do believe in a right way and a wrong way these guys did it the wrong way.... fright let me see if i have one ok

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:41 AM

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ok

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thank you 🙂

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:42 AM

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i have some but its not sad enough

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:42 AM

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i need sad/depressed mostly

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:42 AM

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i have a face that is a ladies it is huge but i dont think its very sad looking

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:43 AM

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all my chars don't have a cry face emote thingie

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I want a sad female char

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:43 AM

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it looks like the face from the fairy fountain fairies in legend of zelda ocarina of time

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i have some that have the cry emote

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do you want one of those kinds of avatars

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:44 AM

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if its female sure

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:44 AM

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just a sec

round fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:45 AM

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help me

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:45 AM

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with?

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:46 AM

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let me know when you added me k

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@final fog

round fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:48 AM

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a yandere but they offline

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there name is Tato

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:49 AM

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@peak cipher i thought i added you?

scenic briar Dec 29, 2019, 12:49 AM

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so what is being done about these ddosers that are friend botting people. how do i get them off my social menu its setting off my ocd having them there and making me anxious to even play the game. ive been told all i can do is ignore them and i shouldnt block them because it can be seen by their api and the less interaction the better. So then what are vrchat and the devs doing about this

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

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I mean they can try to ddos me i'll find their Ip and their adress then 😉

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Raven what i got told

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well i got a decent/good Protection

pure hemlock Dec 29, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Teenager drama. Stop ddosing people and mass adding everyone and grow up. It doesn't make you cool, just makes you cringy.

drowsy timber Dec 29, 2019, 12:55 AM

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It is a little petty.

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Unless it is being done as part of an attack to grab user data

pure hemlock Dec 29, 2019, 12:57 AM

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And yes that was aimed at whoever is writing the bot to mass add everyone because I know you're in here to watch people complain so you can gloat about it to your buddies. Stop being such a cringe lord, grow up, and get a job.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 12:58 AM

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i added you back

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i hope that helped @final fog

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 12:59 AM

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it sure did

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:00 AM

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anytime

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like i said i will always help out where i can

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i say what i say and i mean what i say

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@scenic briar sorry bout the ping. but im a good dood a lot of people can vouch for me. if you need someone to come into the game with you just to help please feel free to dm me il join when i can to be an extra help for anyone that needs a friend to just idk just to support you guys ok

flint stirrup Dec 29, 2019, 1:04 AM

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is anyone aware of the random friends request?

pure hemlock Dec 29, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Everyone is

flint stirrup Dec 29, 2019, 1:04 AM

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of these people aihitoru, little girl uwu, and Photon-free

snow token Dec 29, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Yes

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Don't accept them

flint stirrup Dec 29, 2019, 1:04 AM

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was just informed about it, some fucks are trying to grab your ip

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:05 AM

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just say NO!! and then block them

snow token Dec 29, 2019, 1:05 AM

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yosh unity_chan_dab

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:05 AM

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if you have a hard time with anyone in vrc come see me ill help out anyone that would like it ok

umbral reef Dec 29, 2019, 1:05 AM

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@scenic briar Next unity update it should be fixed.

pure hemlock Dec 29, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Don't worry, security is VRChat's top priority.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:06 AM

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i wont let my friends be buged by these silly people and you all are my friends here ok

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 1:11 AM

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🙂

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:11 AM

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I was literally about to ask about the little girl uwu and others if that's real or not because that person was on someone's stream where I were as well, sooooo...I guess that's a real thing now since it's here on this server?

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 1:11 AM

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One of my friends apparently did get DDoS'd though, hmmmm

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Someone close enough I'd trust not to be bullshitting.

umbral reef Dec 29, 2019, 1:11 AM

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people say dumb stuff constantly in here scoot so next time dont go out from tha
And yes, that person did use the api to just spam friend requests

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Aaaah, okay

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:12 AM

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scoots its fake

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chim and a couple of others said they are not nice people

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:13 AM

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I'm just curious

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:14 AM

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yes?

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:14 AM

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As far as I know little girl uwu is a 15 y/o boy since I asked when he joined the stream, but hey could be a 78 y/o from Botswana with a voice changer xD

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:15 AM

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wow... thats actually traumatizing me ... a voice hanger???

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Changer...

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:15 AM

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oh ok

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:16 AM

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There, corrected

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:16 AM

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yeah dood needs to be tied up the old western style

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toes hung up

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i would listen to what the guys here say though for real dont add anyone that you feel is suspicous and if in doubt just ask the main people here

jolly elk Dec 29, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Uh, anyways have a nice day I just wanted to see if other servers mentioned that topic

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:18 AM

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man this udon soup is the most awesome soup i have had in a while tbh sorry for the off topic thingie

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heya no worries

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 1:18 AM

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wonder if vrc bans the 3 bots

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their rank is already going up xD

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:21 AM

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they are

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they jsut need to get as much info or evidence

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they need to know certain things

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 1:22 AM

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i agree @peak cipher is a good friend

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thanks a lot still Dahmmni

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:23 AM

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im just who i cam im just a person who helps out your welcome

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i am just who i am*

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sorry spelling typos

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 1:28 AM

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I tried being who i am 🙂 the rest imma keep secret

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:28 AM

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thank you 🙂

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ill be back later i h ave to close the coffee shop

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 1:29 AM

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damn coffee shop impressive

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:29 AM

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too bad i couldnt drop off a coffee for anyone that needed it

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id love to do thats actually on my wishlist to bring a cup of coffee to all my friends

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 1:30 AM

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I like a milky coffee

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like half milk and 3 spoons of sugar

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 1:30 AM

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sounds good its goin in my notebook for my friends coffeeperferences

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anyways i gotta get going or ill be late

wheat moss Dec 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Dec 29, 2019, 1:42 AM

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There are 11625 users in VRChat currently

final fog Dec 29, 2019, 1:43 AM

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oh boy

atomic topaz Dec 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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any update on the 3 bots? or will it fade into obscurity?

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Update like what

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why

atomic topaz Dec 29, 2019, 2:19 AM

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if they are still adding people or they got banned

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 2:20 AM

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🤔 not sure if that knowledge even matters

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so no, no update

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 2:20 AM

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when there is no further reports of people getting added you know they stopped or something else happend

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you'll likely not receive any other information/ a ban confirmation

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That's no info thats publicly given out.

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(Like you'll not hear back on the emails/tickets)

atomic topaz Dec 29, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I see, I mean, I just logged in my account to check if my world was published and saw 3 friend requests, and all 3 where the ones that are being accused

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Let me.heck.mine

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I'm interested in the fact that I didn't get any invite to adds

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am I just that bad ;-;

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 2:24 AM

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i noticed something interesting when someone i reported was banned

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Your account obviously still exists, even with a 4-year

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but someone i reported for a super racist avatar seems to have had their account disappear completely

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I've searched both their username and their account name and they no longer exist

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even though other perma'd people ive seen still have their account to this day

inner cape Dec 29, 2019, 2:27 AM

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maybe they changed their name vrcTupper

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Wtf

atomic topaz Dec 29, 2019, 2:27 AM

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wat

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I think we found a bot here bois

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Yea

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Danke

atomic topaz Dec 29, 2019, 2:28 AM

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that aint even the correct url to hentai haven, is a phishing hacking tactic

drowsy timber Dec 29, 2019, 2:31 AM

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It's almost like I'm from the future xD

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 3:00 AM

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yo love u

molten gale Dec 29, 2019, 3:17 AM

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12k online

misty glen Dec 29, 2019, 3:21 AM

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anyone else getting random friend requests from people even though you're not entering any public rooms?

pseudo basalt Dec 29, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Yes, there have been some malicious ones going around, you should decline them

misty glen Dec 29, 2019, 3:22 AM

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okay

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Yup

plucky rampart Dec 29, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Does blocking do the same thing as declining?

analog hull Dec 29, 2019, 3:29 AM

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ahm, is vrc dying to anyone?

inner cipher Dec 29, 2019, 3:36 AM

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why a bunch of avatars and worlds getting red "?" for images instead

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and also more and more avatar pedestals getting killed by the black and yellow

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 3:37 AM

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sounds like you're having some issues reading the according assets / previews

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 3:52 AM

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ah nice chat mods support people getting crashed and ddosed

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Thats a interesting claim cirHuh

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Calling out names regardless of strenght or prove has never been left up. cirHuh

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Moderation ticket.

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Nothing else. cirComfy

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 3:55 AM

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who doesn't actually use an exploit to crash your game ayaka

shell zinc Dec 29, 2019, 3:55 AM

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yes, fpaul's game

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 3:55 AM

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hope they banned the accounts then

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 3:55 AM

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What game, im watching Firefighter documentations cirREE

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Can't crash those @shell zinc cirBaka

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 3:57 AM

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there has been announcement on vrc related servers and Twitter about the exact same people iris

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Bot sends out friend requests to 90% of VRChat Users

must be normal then emoji

shell zinc Dec 29, 2019, 3:59 AM

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y-yes?

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:01 AM

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I understand your anger about it, but this "rule" applies to every sittuation the same.

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There is way to much abuse potential or even potential of self justice. That's the main reason behind it here. cirComfy

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And you're not getting any negative standing by trying to friendly warn people, we simply a removal of the message. cirComfy

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:05 AM

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they should go ahead and fix the problem aka exploit then^^

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:07 AM

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The VRChat team is normal employed staff that can't work 24/7 (in terms of mail support)
As in fixing underlying exploits, thats very easy said. 🙂

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I'm sure they can limit their api actions

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or atleast notice there's something wrong when someone sends thousands of friend requests to people that aren't even online xD

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:13 AM

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I can only hint to the first message again. They're also only employed workers like you in your everyday job. cirPrise
Ofc im sure many will also do things outsite their official working time, but you gotta stay reasonable and have a little bit of understanding. cirComfy

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Good morning Paul

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:15 AM

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sure they are but it doesn't feel right, new people will add them and it might be not the best idea

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I accepted one of the "bots" but haven't been online. Few people confirmed that they had issues after they accepted the friend request tho they never entered their lobby

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Why would you even accept that

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:18 AM

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im sure many people will accept a incomming friend request

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ofc the core people likely wont

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but the average is likely to just say "okay"

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Well yeah I know people who accept just about everyone. I'm a bit more picky, though my requirements aren't that high

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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if someone randomly adds you with a normal name and avatar picture why not

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Because I have my Discord information on my profile

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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i don't accept mostly steam users and visitor's

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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If someone who I don't know really wants to be my friend, they have ways to do so

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:19 AM

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i have my tag there but well don't care much

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Yeah most people dont really care unless you specifically mention it

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:20 AM

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aslong you don't join their call there's nothing to worry

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or voice chat

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one day i hope vrc makes the option to make rooms for ranks aswell

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everyone over the needed rank could join

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Why would you need that?

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Artificial need for ranks?

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:26 AM

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It's kinda been an all day thing, so it feels like they don't even work weekends

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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since Christmas came you don't wanna know how many squeakers are playing murder now

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Play on PC only worlds

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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it's so annoying

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Bruh the quest users are epic lmao

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Play in F+

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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murder is quest

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Party in VRChat home 🕺

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Yeah, I know, that's why I'm saying to play on PC only worlds

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:27 AM

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yea but there's no pc only murder sadly

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atleast we can mute them

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Don't forget, if users are below the age of 13 and admit to it (often easy to trick to tell their age) you can report them too.

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:30 AM

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if the mods would check reports sure

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tanabae

wheat moss Dec 29, 2019, 4:30 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Dec 29, 2019, 4:30 AM

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There are 13024 users in VRChat currently

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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The biggest issue with reports not getting handled is usually insufficient prove.
Or people still use a mail directly insted of the new ticket form.

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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If you actually make a ticket they will

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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@ruby needle There is no in-game "underage" option...

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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They 100% will

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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they don't

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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They do

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A while ago I reported an avatar and within 24hours it was gone and the creator got a temp ban

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I've reported multiple nude avatars by Id and they are still public

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:31 AM

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I did the same thing and they got clapped

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:32 AM

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with pictures / video prove?

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:32 AM

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nop but avatar id

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Figured as much. Include a picture and see what happens then 🙂

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:32 AM

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it's literally loli hent**

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Avatar id is even better than a single picture lmao

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Technically yes it should be sufficient to check.

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:33 AM

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they don't sadly

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 4:33 AM

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oof

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:33 AM

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I sent an email saying that I had suspicion about a person and to check them with nothing else, and they were banned
It's legit just rng

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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just had a team of crashers crash out a world i was in, they came into the world with a cancerous full screen animation intro proclaiming themselves as "Bloody Hound Gang"

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anyone heard of em?

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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No

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Next time you do report a avatar, include a picture and im sure it'll be a better outcome cirComfy

supple depot Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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i just got VRChat and i dunno how to upload avatars

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Check out a video tutorial cirPrise

supple depot Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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ok

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:34 AM

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just make sure it's using Unity 2017.4.28f1

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Anything using a different version is outdated

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:35 AM

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couldnt get the name of the crasher though as they had some shit to cover over their name and i got crashed out too quickly with a WHAT THE FU BOOM crash emote

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:36 AM

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the email was written on 17.10.2019 vrcAevSip

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:36 AM

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but i guess as a general warning, if you see that cancer intro with "Bloody Hound Gang" enable safe mode immediately

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not sure if i should file a report on this or DM some of the team members on this issue

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:37 AM

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#moderation-reports is what you should read

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:37 AM

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DM is not a contact way

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:37 AM

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email but nothing will happen only if you add a crash log

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:37 AM

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DM'ing team members does absolutely nothing

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:37 AM

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They don't allow dms anyway

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:37 AM

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email also not

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TICKET FORM

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:38 AM

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meh

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:38 AM

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forget about the emails please. TICKET FORM

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:38 AM

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#moderation-reports <<<<<<<-------

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:38 AM

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ah, didnt see that channel

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ill go though that method

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:38 AM

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email works tho just reply is slow 😩 xD

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yea

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:39 AM

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hopefully, this "Bloody hound Gang" can be rooted out, and those users banned from VRchat

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Emails work ye, but like the purpose of the ticket form too

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I still prefer emailing 😂

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:39 AM

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vrchat can't stop any people or gangs

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Yeah, but they can cause at least 5 minutes worth of inconvenience

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:40 AM

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once banned they will come back no matter what

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they even want to be banned, all they look for is attention

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:41 AM

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and with careful moderation, repeated bans can be assessed until they tire of it and move on to some other game, perhaps Fallout76

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 4:41 AM

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The point is anoying them till they lose interest

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if it takes 1 account or a 100

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Exactly

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:41 AM

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i know someone who has a list with banned accounts and it's over 40 xD

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:42 AM

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some are dedicated to getting back into places they are banned from

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but, most script kiddies usually give up after 5-10 perm bans

sick crystal Dec 29, 2019, 4:42 AM

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hi

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:42 AM

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well

noble trout Dec 29, 2019, 4:42 AM

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the more information available to the moderation team, the better

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the quicker they can recognize the pieces of shit, and the faster the bans can be doled out

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:43 AM

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i don't record in vr because vrchat is already heavy enough

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i am mostly in public and never had safety mode on or even dynamic bones limited

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Ya can just use ShadowPlay

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If you have an Nvidia card

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:44 AM

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Some people legit have over 100 accounts 😂

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:44 AM

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GTX 1070TI meh

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Yeah can just use Shadowplay and have the same performance

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:45 AM

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people are even selling vrchat accounts for few cents that have the new user rank^^

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friending people gets a higher rank easily

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Also speaking of reports, just reported someone

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:49 AM

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reported tons

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they are still around

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Because bans are rarely permanent

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And even if they can always ban evade

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But that doesn't really stop me from being a nuisance to that person

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:50 AM

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making a single email feels useless when they don't even respond back even they did nothing

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I dont email tho

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 AM

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i did few times and got answer's on only some

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 AM

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And again last time I reported a bad avatar the guy was clapped

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Took only like a day for that to happen too

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 AM

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I reported crash avatars and see them still around from the same guy

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:51 AM

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Did you report them with screenshots?

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Also 13k people holy cow

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:52 AM

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no.

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Yeah, that's probably why

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They kinda expect you to provide screenshot proof, or video

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:53 AM

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if the avatar has few million particles and already looks malicious..

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would be a cool idea to add images to ingame report

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:53 AM

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So that means you do it the lazy way and skip screenshots that take no time to make?

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Ingame reports are a joke

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:54 AM

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don't feel like reporting tons of people by mail what takes forever

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also figuring out the id

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:54 AM

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I dont ever join instances where I would have to report tons of people

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:55 AM

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the box is a place

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Taking a few screenshots while ingame + hiding their avatar so you can get their name and ID via website works really well for me. Then once I leave and I dont forget I just make a quick report and done

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:56 AM

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there is no way to see the avatar id ingame so how am i supposed to report it by mail

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:57 AM

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First of all, forget the Email
Secondly, just reporting the person wearing it with a screenshot of him wearing it + reporting the avatar author do the trick

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For me it just seems like you persist on doing it your way and wonder why it doesn't work

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:57 AM

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the author has not only one avatar prob

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:57 AM

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Dot is at like account 160, at the very minimum lol

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:57 AM

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It worked for me within 24hours when I did it

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Yep, same here

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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gl reporting the author with 60 avatars being public

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Why would that be hard

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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So?

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I'm not the person having to go through the list of uploaded avatars

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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they would have to go through 60 avatars then

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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I just need to give them a reason to look into

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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Uhhh....do you know public worlds used to be handled Toga?

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:58 AM

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@vocal shard Ofc

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Dots a bro, I was gonna make a world with all his banned account names on a memorial

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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You realize they can scan every avatar on your account and spit out all the stats in a matter of seconds, right? It took like 4 minutes for a world of over 200 models

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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@covert blade Apologies for being so scuffed today

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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public world's don't get moderated nowadays 😋

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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So?

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You act like checking 60 models would take any time at all

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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🙄

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Usually in the case of crash avatars, if they find one they delete all the avatars on the account

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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He's here justifying that his own method which doesn't get him results is better than me taking a few screenshots

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Yep

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What's their method?

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Avatar ID and no screenshots + email

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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lol

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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could be also shader or mesh what isn't seeable by default

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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All those things show up?

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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🤦‍♂️

open fossil Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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nossi lookin ass

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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🥴

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:00 AM

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All they have to do is do an account scan, which takes seconds, and it's fine

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 5:01 AM

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I guess it's time I move onto a different channel now

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Nah this is VRChat related

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Mic it's not easy if they crash people by shader tho

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Again why is that such a big concern of yours?

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Sure it is, they've got plenty of automated ways to see whats on your model

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Imma just, hang on

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🍿

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:02 AM

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vrcAevSip

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:02 AM

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if you have 60 models and 1 of them is a crasher, I'd be willing to guess that it'd take them less than 20 minutes to figure out which, and that being generous

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:02 AM

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yea kinda

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:03 AM

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but screenshot or video reports almost have gotten results for my reports every time

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Apparently they don't work weekends on prime-time

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:03 AM

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you can easily use fur shaders on multiple models and then use the same shader with extreme values for those bad things

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as example

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:04 AM

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Don't even need a shader, you can fuck with the normals of a regular model and have it lag to shit

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:04 AM

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everyone knows how unoptimized fur can be xD

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yea i guess

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:04 AM

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With a reasonable amount of polys

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Tessellation Shader is also fun vrcTrollThinking

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Most people aren't using methods like that to lag or crash people is the thing, most of the time is extremely simple

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:06 AM

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yea most people use particles

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that's easy detectable

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:06 AM

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That's why 9 out of 10 times it's simple to detect with an account scan

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"Ah this model is kinda sketchy lemme pull it up in unity yep ok ban"

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:07 AM

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^^

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people always find new ways to be less performance detectable vrcPerfVeryPoor

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Can be and will be are different tho, with the bulk of reports I feel like some of em get lost in transit

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My reports seem fine, but I've heard others with awful rng

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That's how it always is tho with this game, the it worked for me try it again 🤷‍♂️

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Yeah, everyone knows all these "bonus" ways to crash/lag people yet they're not nearly as common despite them being harder to detect

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Just because it's possible doesn't make it probably

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:10 AM

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ingame reports seem useless. Could try by ticket but gathering proof is always meh

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Ingame reports most likely just flag accounts after X amount within X amount of time

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Just make a copy pasta about how you're concerned for security and replace the name

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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lol my report emails are all "ay this guy crashed someone"

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Mhm, pretty much

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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or "hey this dude did a thing"

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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sadly my private models are still public tanabae

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:11 AM

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im barely paraphrasing, lemme find one

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:12 AM

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🥵

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:12 AM

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oh one is "reporting racism" as the only text with a vid

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and "nude avatar" with a screenshot

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Oh yea, if it's like a verbal thing that's a definite you need a video

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:13 AM

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dude imagine some of the weird shit they have to watch

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Lmao

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:13 AM

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Community Labs gets zero checked somehow, there was a world with one single avatar and it had gestures for nsfw things and the world&avatar was still there after 2 days like OK not sure if it's still there can't check rn

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:13 AM

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They probably have an archive of some cringy ass shit

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:13 AM

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i'd kill to be able to just watch along with a mod team member to see some of the videos theyre sent lol

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Community Labs aren't checked because it depends on the community reporting

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and people don't report very much

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Yea, that was the purpose of community labs, to automate it and make us do the work

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Something tells me that having the Report button essentially do nothing for nearly a whole year wasnt the smartest idea

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:14 AM

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they should hire ingame report checkers as rank xD

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:14 AM

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Because the manual checking started to get god awful with the amount of garbo people attempted to put up

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:14 AM

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It used to call a mod back in the days of only a few hundred users but its obviously not viable any more, yet they just let it float and do nothing lol

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:14 AM

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yea

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:15 AM

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It was mostly automated as far as avatar worlds

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the most time consuming part probably wasnt the checking of the model themselves but all the other things to get the world to public, and every single time someone wanted to upload a new world

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:15 AM

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My avatar is checked as nsfw tho, so it's fine right?

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:15 AM

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tanabae

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like why is that there?

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They said "oh it was part of a scrapped thing" or whatver but they also revamped the entire SDK's UI

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Very old holdover of a half-implemented system that was abandoned

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Yeah but why is it there

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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i don't know, why are you here

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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It scares me that it was a thought to begin with

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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MHXAStare

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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thats a good question tbh

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Revving up for the erp train, but backed off

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:16 AM

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A lot of the UI was redone in that SDK update though yet those things stayed, it just doesn't make sense vrcTupper

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:17 AM

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the UI that was redone was the unity panel UIs, if you recall

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not the UI in the upload prefab

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:17 AM

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also wait while youre here do you guys share around some cringy report videos in whatever discord you guys use to communicate?

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Why in the world would a company use Discord as their central means of internal comms

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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No business answer

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Gimme the real answers

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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because you can use emotes

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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i wonder what application was around before Discord, but is basically real time chat targeted at businesses

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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i bet the Moderators secretly play around with our private avatars after they got taken down vrpill

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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But does it have chat emotes?

ruby needle Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Skype cirBaka

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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be careful takes a very large brain

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Hm

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:18 AM

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Definitely not Slack, that answer is too easy

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Yes Paul, that was the joke and you had a typo in it

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:19 AM

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those checkboxes aren't gone yet because we haven't removed them, that's the answer essentially

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they do absolutely nothing

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Actually Lync has been around for so long that it isn’t even funny, and everyone forgot it existed as soon as it got rebranded as Skype for Business

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:19 AM

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and most certainly do not permit breaking of the TOS just because you applied it

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Skype and TS3 is so old

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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I hate those buttons

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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They clearly use MS Comic Chat.

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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They offend him on a personal level

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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VRChat uses a Ventrilo server for all company communication

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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no, roger wilco

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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NetMeeting clearly

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:20 AM

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meetings are hosted in a Furcadia laser tag lobby

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:21 AM

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there are no meetings

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Lmao, not meeting up on Gaia online, when you wanna discuss real business matters meet me in barton

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:21 AM

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to reverse a bit-- community labs is (most of the time) very good at what it does, and rarely requires someone step in

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there's some edge cases we've smoothed out over time but mostly its good

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moderator reports also aren't ignored, but there are a lot of them, so

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:21 AM

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Yeah I don't really see any yikes stuff these days that makes it public, not any more

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

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best to report using the button in vrchat, and also shoot an email

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or make a ticket, rather

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there's ways to improve it, just a matter of getting to it

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

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will in-game report's get their function back or is it abandoned like the tags in the sdk?

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Even when we still had the old report button?

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

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You know, I only realised very recently that the worlds menu auto filters to show stuff compatible with your platform, and I only realised it after saying “wow, most of community labs is quest compatible? Oh wait”

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

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??? in-game reports have not been removed

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:22 AM

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It's definitely good for the huge bulk of empty/first worlds people like making, we weren't arguing against that at all, like y'all had to look through so much garbo before

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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mostly not taken serious then

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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did you skip over what i just wrote?

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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i need to find my old public world doc screenshots

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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here, let me help

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📎 unknown.png

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that part

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Oh I did have one question about reports for something like ban evasion. It's the one report with proof I sent that wasn't resolved

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How do I prove someone is ban evading?

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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report it, let mods investigate

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that's it

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all the info you need is in #moderation-reports

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Remember countless occurrences of dot returning and laugh

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I feel like the evidence I had was extremely convincing, but it seems like it was dropped because it's been a while and the guy's ban just ran out

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I am so glad that not-reporting people isn’t its own offence

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I don't know any details but I imagine a report is only part of a moderation investigation story

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:24 AM

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Down to having his personal model on it, which was then uploaded to the main account after his ban was lifted

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Personal as in made from scratch model

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:25 AM

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there's lots of reasons (again, i imagine-- i'm not a mod and very intentionally do not get involved with mod stuff, at all) why a report may not result in what you want

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probably because you don't know the whole story

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idk, again, guessing

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:25 AM

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when there wasn't a ticket system my mail report about a nude public model didn't get checked and it's still public after all

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:26 AM

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the tickets are just nicely formatted emails, to be clear

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:26 AM

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I don't know the whole story from the mod's side but on my end, I know 100% it was the guy, it was a well known fact that he'd probably admit if a mod on an alt account hopped in a friends+ lobby to ask honestly

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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is it enough reporting ids of public nude models or not? If yes I will resend it

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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If you reported it before we had our ticket form, that was.. over 6 months ago

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so, yes?

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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by ticket then

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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again, as i stated

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one and the same

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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With the evidence I sent being in my opinion very concrete yet no action being taken, it makes me feel like actually reporting a ban evader via reporting is a waste of effort, and it does take a bit more effort than slapping on OBS while someone is being a douche in a room.

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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again, you don't have the whole story on mod cases

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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I even sent an email asking "So what kind of proof is enough proof?" and didn't really get a real response

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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and again-- that's my guess

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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just a "send any evidence youve got"

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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yep, that's all you have to do

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whatever happens in the case is beyond your control, as it is up to the Moderation team

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Hey tup, make sure you tell System we love him btw

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He's like a crowd favorite

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Yeah but what I had clearly wasn't enough to result in a ban, and it was 100% without any doubt the same person, yet it was all the proof I could send short of me walking up and getting a vocal confirmation of him admitting to ban evasion

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But I gave the maximum amount of proof I could get, which didnt lead to anything

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Max I or anyone that wasn't a mod team member could get.

open fossil Dec 29, 2019, 5:30 AM

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the amount of agains is raising my stress level xD

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:30 AM

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OK, in that case you've done your due duty in reporting him. The moderation team has the information they need. It is very possible that some other reason affected the case. There's no way for you (or I) to know

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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What kind of thing would affect it 🤔

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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who knows

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that is what i am saying

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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will check the ids of the nsfw models as soon i get on and will add screenshots to the ticket and hope they get removed then. That's all i can do after all

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Just dragging this out Mood

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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I'll drag you out

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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KomiShook2

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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That's kinda...I mean a result like that despite it clearly being the same guy just makes me feel like no amount of proof short of a vocal confirmation is enough though. Why should I bother next time if the most I can get didn't result in something, you know?

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Outta the house and to a nice dinner vrcAevSip

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Like why bother?

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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if you want to report someone, you're free to do so-- but you don't get to dictate (or know) actions, if any, are taken

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:32 AM

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I'm not upset the guy wasn't banned, I'm more upset that a result like that implies no future report I do like that will result in a ban.

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Like it's a waste of effort to try and report ban evaders.

open fossil Dec 29, 2019, 5:32 AM

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idk if it's been addressed anywhere, but is something being done about the mass user-adding bots/clients? theres already been 3

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:32 AM

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That is kind of a ridiculous logic jump

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but if you don't want to submit reports, you don't need to

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Yes Weax, addressed

open fossil Dec 29, 2019, 5:33 AM

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ty

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:33 AM

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How is it a jump? I sent the maximum amount of proof that a normal user can, and despite it being the same person with zero shadow of a doubt, no ban or punishment was made. Why would it matter if I sent the same proof in for the next user?

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Here's the reports tl;dr, aside from what's in #moderation-reports -- you can submit a report, if you like. You provide as much info as you want (or can), and then that's your involvement. Actions taken beyond that point are beyond your knowledge or control. There's many reasons that some action might not be taken-- maybe they had an active appeal, and we already knew? What if their ban was a few days until expiry and the Moderation team decided "eh, not worth turning this guy into a serial ban evader", or any other reason? You simply don't know.

What I do know is that reports are received, responded to in the same way every time, and that information is used to moderate offenders where appropriate. Your contributions are important and appreciated, but reports may or may not result in action, due to a massive array of reasons.

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If you don't want to submit reports, that is completely up to you.

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They are, however, exceedingly helpful and actioned appropriately when received, from what I've seen of the Moderation team in action. They've got a lot to do.

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Yeah the other reports with proof I've sent were all dealt with like...within 24 hours

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which is surprising

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:37 AM

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its might just be harder to verify i guess, like they can go invis and watch the guy, but if they didnt know them beforehand they kinda just gotta go off that vid but it could be a meme or a joke

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for ban evades at least

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if it wasnt like dot or something i guess 😂

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Oh I did have another thing unrelated to the evasion. One person I reported seems to have had their account totally deleted the next day? But there's people with permas that I feel liek have been banned for ages with existing accounts, at lest in the API. whats up with that?

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:37 AM

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So what's more likely? "This one guy got skipped for a mysterious, conspiratorial reason", or "There was another reason, like they already knew and were addressing, or he was appealing a ban, or etc"

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I don't know. Again, I have no idea what goes on in Moderation aside from the basics. I keep myself separated for hopefully obvious reasons-- having a Community Manager also be a cop doesn't read well.

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:38 AM

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I mean you've said before punishments can be less harsh for the more "regular" users, the kind that exist on the gamea nd they were that type 🤔 but he did his full ban so it wasnt an appeal

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so you dont even get to watch the cringy stuff that gets sent in? feelsbad

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I'd sign an NDA to be able to watch the good stuff

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:39 AM

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is there ever gonna be a reset avatar button on the vrc page if someone accidentally chooses a malicious avatar that keeps crashing you without being able to change it by keybind or menu vrcThinking

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Ever? Probably

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:39 AM

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Oh man that'd be nice

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:39 AM

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tomorrow? no

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Paul's suggestion vrcFPaulSip

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:40 AM

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I had a previous case on a net game I used to play where I got banned with supposedly convincing evidence backing it, but wasn’t even involved in the situation, so I have to appreciate systems where bans don’t just always apply without question

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:40 AM

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If you contact Support they can actually just remove the avatar to save everyone that got hit by that avatar (and pass the author to the mod team) instead of just fixing yourself 🙂

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:40 AM

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But I think in both cases the issue is lack of transparency .. though it’s like that by design

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:41 AM

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you could still report the avatar author after resetting your avatar i think or add a avatar history

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:41 AM

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It kind of sucked back then because I had asked for proof and didn’t get it due to privacy or something

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Moderation is almost never transparent in online games with large communities

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:42 AM

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That's hard, even harder in a social game

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Yes, I wouldn't want to do that, at all

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:42 AM

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delicate social ecosystem and all that jazz

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Some guy recently ripped a person's model that was part of a lot of large social circles, got caught, and now he's losing a bunch of longtime friends over it

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:43 AM

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That sounds like someone I know lol

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:43 AM

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since VRChat runs through Steam couldn't bans appeal to Steam ID's or VAC bannes to stop evading somehow?

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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imagine if you could go to a site, and see the message "Himiko Toga was banned for NSFW models due to a report by Mic_Sounders at 04 Dec 2019 04:47PM UTC"

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how well do you think that'd work

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🙃

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Yep

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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That much transparency is a bit too much

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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rip my NSFW models

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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But something like the court system where the witness can remain anonymous might be workable

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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I see tons of witch hunting on twitter though lol no one ever seems to get in trouble for it but im also guessing no one reports it either

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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It’s tricky though

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And the court system still isn’t perfect in that regard

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Twitter isn't VRChat

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:44 AM

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that guy's being thrown under the bus though and I love it, especially since some parts of the ripped model were made by a friend from scratch

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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a "court system" works if your community is like... hundreds, at most, and people acted like they did in the late 90s-early 2000s on the internet, instead of today

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Twitter isn't VRChat but I'm pretty sure the community guidelines cover out of game things

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People have been banned for things on Twitter before

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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it works for SomethingAwful and ActiveWorlds and early Second Life but not today

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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I mean .. it works in a social community of a few hundred million .. kind of

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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well yes because you can't just swap IPs IRL 🙂

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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But only because witness protection schemes exist I guess

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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and you don't have effective anonymity IRL

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 5:45 AM

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i don't think Twitter bans people for naming someone's in-game name

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Not what I said

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I said people on VRChat have been in trouble for things posted on Twitter

pseudo basalt Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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That reminds me how you could see the banned/appeals section on facepunch

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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yeah, works well for SA/FP

pseudo basalt Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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it was funny but generally pretty awful

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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but this isn't a forum

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you can't just click someone's profile and see everything they've ever posted in VRChat

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Also I just got away with saying that the US court system works and nobody pulled me up on that assumption so let me just orange justice here for a minute

covert chasm Dec 29, 2019, 5:46 AM

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😛

pseudo basalt Dec 29, 2019, 5:47 AM

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fp isn't exactly known for great moderation, or well, was

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FP in general is probably the definition of unprofessional 👏

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Hmm .... to leave the hotel room, or not to leave the hotel room

indigo fern Dec 29, 2019, 5:50 AM

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guidelines definitely extend beyond the game itself, like the certain someone who was sharing nsfw content when thats a no no

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:52 AM

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the shark

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🤢

pseudo basalt Dec 29, 2019, 5:53 AM

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vrcThinking

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:56 AM

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you dont even wanna know

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:56 AM

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🦈

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 5:57 AM

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🦈 🍔♾️

south viper Dec 29, 2019, 5:58 AM

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🥕 🐡

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Uehhh

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K enough of this w

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 6:08 AM

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vrchat down? my game wont start

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 6:10 AM

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same

covert blade Dec 29, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Btw what's the deal with avatars not loading in and then showing as error bot if I hide and show again?

royal yoke Dec 29, 2019, 6:20 AM

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club penguin died becuase it gay 🐧🏳️‍🌈☠️

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 6:37 AM

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wow that was hilarious

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say something else funny

twin fractal Dec 29, 2019, 6:48 AM

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I don't think you got the genius here Mic... joblesssushi thinks club penguin is a bad game and since the only thing that's equivalent to being bad is being gay club penguin is therefore a gay game. This is some inspirational work being done here

rigid crescent Dec 29, 2019, 6:49 AM

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oh i get it now 🙂

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 6:51 AM

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someone got a small anime avatar with a lightsaber for me?

frigid berry Dec 29, 2019, 6:52 AM

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@royal yoke fuck u

merry minnow Dec 29, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Has anyone else been having problems loading models and some world preview images lately? Ive tried clearing my cache and that does not fix the issue. My internet is not the issue either.

cosmic dagger Dec 29, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Oh finally someone mentioned the issues

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Its not just you Torimaku

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A lot of stuff seems to be breaking

merry minnow Dec 29, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Like ive tried rejoining instances, blocking and unblocking, cycling between show/hide model, and some people just refuse to load. Cache is only at 10GB atm on a drive with over 300GB free(the drive is an nvme ssd)

cosmic dagger Dec 29, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Its VRchat having issues

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Its happening both quest and PC side

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:02 AM

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sasha are you stil up

wraith lichen Dec 29, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Yep, I've also noticed those issues. They happen occasionally for me though

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:03 AM

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or is anyone up that can dm me thnks got some thing for you to see

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 8:03 AM

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AkkoConfused

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:08 AM

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How about you tell us what it is?

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:10 AM

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lo.me is he a bot

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just got proof of a whole bunch of people doing sily things is there someone i can talk about this i have video proof if this message is not allowed plse delete

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Does it have to do with VRChat?

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Qhala, your pictures.

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xD That's awesome.

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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BBwat1

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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<

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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Which ones?

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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yea

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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The profile pictures I see when I happen to actually bump into you.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:13 AM

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it does have stuff to do with vr chat

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namely video proof

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 AM

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@peak cipher then follow the instructions in #moderation-reports .

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 AM

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ok cool thnks

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 AM

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@crystal fossil you taking about my pfp in vrc? o.o

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 AM

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i just wanna do my part im doing underground cover work for you guys

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Just discord this time.

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Oh o.o

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:15 AM

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You're more of a unicorn in VRC than discord. I've only seen you the one time in-game.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Unicorn? D:

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:17 AM

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how does someone have the name LoMe. and you think they're a bot

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:18 AM

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WELL

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If you tell me your brithdate, I can give you a different animal. 😏

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 AM

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04/28

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lmao

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 AM

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And then I'll also know your brithday.

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xD Wth

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 AM

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rekt

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 AM

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What year?

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 AM

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nah

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:19 AM

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PFFT

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I'm old.

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 AM

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thats the part you figure out

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Gimme your Chinese zodiac then.

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 AM

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dont even know

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:20 AM

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C'mon \o/

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:21 AM

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visit the top floor of The Great Pug #84851 and id tell ya LOL

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Tha hecc.

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:22 AM

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ez

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:22 AM

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I can list what you could be given the information you gave me.

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Kangaroo, Ostrich, Buffalo, Beaver, Seagull, Wombat, Squirrel, Yak, Wolf, Hedgehog, Rattlesnake, Jackal, etc.

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It goes on a while.

earnest thicket Dec 29, 2019, 8:25 AM

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ill just be me 🙂

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Those are for your month/day.

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:32 AM

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I ish confuzzled.

ocean isle Dec 29, 2019, 8:38 AM

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me rooster

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:45 AM

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sorry guys but i got a question

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how do i do an unlisted vid for yt for vrchat

broken plover Dec 29, 2019, 8:46 AM

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when you upload it change it from public to unlisted. When its done processing its only gonna be visible through the video link

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:47 AM

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ok thnks nico just got 25 minutes of footage is it ok if i didnt speak in the video

broken plover Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Yeah its ok. Some people also dont talk in their videos

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM

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ok i have in the footage about 50-75 people doing bad things

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Just make sure you detail everything about it from a start to finish.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:50 AM

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i got as much as i could of their name tags their avatars and what they were saying... i never made a youtube vid before so im totally confused sorry i was doing undercover work and i dont know what to put in the vid

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do i have to write the exact words they used its not good words

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i didnt even bother editing it

broken plover Dec 29, 2019, 8:53 AM

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If you want to. But you can also kind of censor it like this: "F##k"

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:54 AM

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idk how

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to edit so i apologize

broken plover Dec 29, 2019, 8:54 AM

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I know how to edit videos

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:56 AM

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can you dm me if you feel like helping?

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i need some help

broken plover Dec 29, 2019, 8:56 AM

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I guess

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 8:56 AM

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thnks

fluid mountain Dec 29, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Anyone said anything about that ddos bot account scandal on vrc?

wary hollow Dec 29, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Hey People I already asked this but didn't get enough answers 😐

whats your reason of playing as an opposite gender and your response to criticism ?🤔
Am Curious 🙃 Tag me in ur reply so i can easily find it

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https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-thinking-anime-naruto-gif-13593873

tame island Dec 29, 2019, 9:40 AM

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like having the avatar of a girl (when im a dude)?

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@wary hollow

wary hollow Dec 29, 2019, 9:42 AM

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@tame island Yea Male playing as female and vise versa

tame island Dec 29, 2019, 9:42 AM

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2 reasons + 1 thought

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cool trails on hands and other effects
couldnt find an equally good male avatar
feels weird to look down and see tits lmao

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 9:45 AM

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canny for the avatar/world (previews or actual asset) not loading, invites and other API related requests not working issue: https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/assets-failing-to-load-due-to-randomly-thrown-502-bad-gateway-exceptions
everyone recently observing world and avatar preview boxes only showing a red question mark or another placeholder than the actual thumbnail or avatars not loading at random times (stuck at 0.0 loading bar with blue avatar placeholder) should upvote this so that it gets prioritized and fixed rather quickly

tame island Dec 29, 2019, 9:45 AM

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@wary hollow my answer

wary hollow Dec 29, 2019, 9:48 AM

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@tame island i agree on finding good avatars anime females have quite move detail while males look alike hmmmm🤔

tame island Dec 29, 2019, 9:49 AM

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yeah and about criticism
"the main goal of avatars is to express oneself well, and i think gender of the avatar shouldnt be a boundary in expressing yourself"

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also a lot of the male characters look mediocre

twilit palm Dec 29, 2019, 9:51 AM

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i agree, male models can be really disinteresting when made, a lot of people put more effort into the looks of female avatars

tame island Dec 29, 2019, 9:52 AM

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the model i have puts its tongue out when you put up ✌️ which makes me able to lick burgers

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idont know if other models d othis too

bright elbow Dec 29, 2019, 9:54 AM

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@wary hollow I personally think there is a technical reason that can be partly why a lot people choose to play as anime related female characters. And that is because MMD models are easy to convert into Vrchat avatars. Which gives people access to a large library of avatars that are generally female. A large part of these are also in a really high quality.

That it what I would say is one of the reason I have one myself at least. Because it looks really good, like it's handdrawn 2D character. It's not my main avatar but use it regularly.

tame island Dec 29, 2019, 9:54 AM

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huh

idle holly Dec 29, 2019, 9:59 AM

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hi

wary hollow Dec 29, 2019, 10:01 AM

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@bright elbow hmmm i agree on that they are mostly imported mmd and some are combined parts of few avatars and there quality is pretty high

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@twilit palm the only good male avatars that i may use are cartoons they look the best but human looking avatars females look way better

twilit palm Dec 29, 2019, 10:05 AM

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yeah! the only male avatars i'd go for are the armored ones

viscid talon Dec 29, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Anyone experiencing lag?

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 11:02 AM

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So... I have a question... do people in VRChat go to other people's house worlds and set their login home to one of them at all? Or is that considered taboo or something?

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:03 AM

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just set your world to something that makes you feel cozy or is functional

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who cares whose it is, really

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if it's a friend's and you like it, power to the both of you

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Well, yeah. But I mean... do people get upset if you just make a personal room of their world and set it as a home for yourself? I mainly ask because I'm semi-sorta tired of logging into VRChat and loading into that awkward tutorial room location.

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So I wanted to find a nice room to set up as a sethome so I would login from that point from then on.

shell zinc Dec 29, 2019, 11:05 AM

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no one really needs to know what your home world is, so no one’d ever get bothered since you interrupt nothing

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:06 AM

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when you set a world as your home you get a new invite-only instance of it when you log in

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so you would never be interrupting something regardless of the world you choose

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Okay. So I just make the room a private or invite when making it in the first place, then. Got it.

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:06 AM

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no, even if it's public it will always be invite when you log in and spawn

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it makes a new instance with only you in it when you launch the game

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and all home instances are invite only

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 11:07 AM

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I didn't know if the owner of the world got a notice or something... I'm horribly new to the world of VRChat. So much so that I don't even have a VR setup at all. I'm still just spinning around on KB/M...

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:07 AM

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so if I made my home The Pug, I wouldn't be joining any existing instance, only a new one only I can be in

shell zinc Dec 29, 2019, 11:07 AM

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yeah if you set home it goes to private, so no one gets interrupted

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:08 AM

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yeah

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one world can have hundreds of instances, think of them as separate "servers" running their own version if it helps

shell zinc Dec 29, 2019, 11:08 AM

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to my knowledge the only way to launch into an instance that have people in it is to generate an instance link and launch from it from either the site or launch properties, i guess

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so if you worry about it, just set home normal and you’ll be fine

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Alrighty. Guess I'll just hop on and go 'house' shopping. 😛

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Or I don't even have to go online. Yay for the vrcw website. 😛

shell zinc Dec 29, 2019, 11:10 AM

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tru

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Hi guys im new on here 😅

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howdy 🤠

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Huh 😅

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expect a lot of weirdoes

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that's what happens when you give the internet free creative space

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Yay 😅 I guess

snow token Dec 29, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Hiyo @vocal shard

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 11:50 AM

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@snow token hello

celest lion Dec 29, 2019, 11:56 AM

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I am not sure if they posted this here yet but these people watch out for, they ddos you and will crash you upon you friending them so beware https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/646797287867285515/660636527503867914/Screenshot_20191228-181258.png?width=396&height=703

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 11:57 AM

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they are gone already

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atleast Tupper said

celest lion Dec 29, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Just making sure because i was added not too long ago

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 11:58 AM

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also they didn't crash or ddos unless you started the game

tacit plank Dec 29, 2019, 12:02 PM

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I doubt they will do anything to you unless it can be automated

tidal onyx Dec 29, 2019, 12:02 PM

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automatic

tacit plank Dec 29, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Like, being a friend gives them access to your avatar through the API or something. In that case they probably can.
I doubt the whole DDOS thing though

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I wonder how they do? Until now you had to be in the same instance as somebody else to get their avatar ID. You also can't download it even if you're a friend, with the exception of ripping tools which do a pretty bad job at it, and which are too slow to steal a lot fast

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I've seen something about there being multiple APIs, maybe the dev ones aren't as secure? Either way I hope it gets fixed. VRChat's only real competitor has booth avatars on the public avatar list, I don't want to switch to something like that

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 12:10 PM

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@hidden locust You can only go to worlds that are set to public, if someone didn't want you going to a world then they'd not have made it public in the first place. They'd probably be honored if someone else set it as their home.

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Fair enough.

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 12:13 PM

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nothing makes me so wholeheartedly appreciate the community as hearing someone playing music on an instrument and looking around at everyone else having a good time

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it's almost like an emotional montage

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I blame the more wholesome VRC videos for that

tacit plank Dec 29, 2019, 12:17 PM

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"if someone didn't want you going to a world then they'd not have made it public in the first place. " Good point, but the "accept agreements" and "publish to lab" buttons are way too close. I accidentally set a private world to public

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Luckily there wasn't anything bad in that one

static crow Dec 29, 2019, 12:29 PM

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anyone who used kinect 360 for full body tracking? need some help, for some reason whenever i tilt my head in game, my feet and legs turn as well but to the opposite side, makes it look hella scuffed

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any idea how to fix that?

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 12:32 PM

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That feel when you're trying to load into a world and it boots you for zero reasons...

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It worked... but now that feel when you can't favorite the world nor set it as home...

finite cape Dec 29, 2019, 12:36 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/547291804928573441/660563671885545532/image0-5.jpg?width=691&height=676

fading flower Dec 29, 2019, 12:37 PM

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everyone and their mother pretty much knows about this

hidden locust Dec 29, 2019, 12:49 PM

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Awww man! I found a trail of FF14 worlds!

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Time to see how deep this rabbit hole goes!

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Welp. Not as far as I would have liked. But still, someone is working on it. And that makes me happy. 😄

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And I even found a good place to call a home. Works for me.

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Think I'mma go conk out a bit. HAve a good day all.

snow token Dec 29, 2019, 1:07 PM

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vrcAevSip

twin mica Dec 29, 2019, 1:50 PM

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User: photon-free - bot
Sends a friendship request for further attack

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 1:51 PM

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We know, everyone knows by this point. There's 3 people. Decline and block.

vital rune Dec 29, 2019, 2:24 PM

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why does VRChat sometimes not let you join in your friends' session

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and instead threw you into some random empty public session

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 2:27 PM

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The room is full, basically. That or it's bugged out.

velvet quarry Dec 29, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Servers seem to be acting a little odd at the moment, could be related to that.

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 2:28 PM

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hello friendos

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anyone wanna play vr with me?

versed kiln Dec 29, 2019, 2:34 PM

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helou

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 2:40 PM

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suzie i would but im just getting ready to work

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perhaps after i finsihed work i can jump in

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 2:44 PM

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@faint skiff theres a 4th one now.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 2:45 PM

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just delete rinse and repeat 🙂

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 2:52 PM

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tfw you enter vrchat and nobody is in the mood to talk
feelsbad

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 2:54 PM

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heyay

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if you would like to join me

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im always open to hang out and talk

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if you would like to i do have to work in 2 hours

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but i dont see any problem with hanging out for a while

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im chasing my first cup of coffee with a coca cola

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just wondering is little pillow one of the newer bots?

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just got friend requested by little pillow

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Yes it is, that's the 4th one I spoke of.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 3:03 PM

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yeah just deleted it thanks should looked at the above messages sorry

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Np.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 3:04 PM

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qhala you doing well today??

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Doing ok thanks for asking.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 3:04 PM

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if there is anything i can do to help you ill try to help ok

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I think I'll be fine, thanks nonetheless.

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 3:08 PM

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no worries you got a friend in me

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to be honest im really lucky to call 75 people my friends in vr chat and i only started like two mondays ago i have so many more amazing people to meet

grizzled fractal Dec 29, 2019, 3:13 PM

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I need friends

peak cipher Dec 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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heya how are you

hazy lynx Dec 29, 2019, 3:20 PM

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jeffry epstein

fading flower Dec 29, 2019, 3:21 PM

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wait

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the fourth what?

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like another friend request

faint skiff Dec 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Yeah

fading flower Dec 29, 2019, 3:30 PM

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whats the name

snow wadi Dec 29, 2019, 3:31 PM

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The bots name is Little_Pillow.

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Huh...seeing a pattern here.

storm stag Dec 29, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Is VRC having issues again?

echo lance Dec 29, 2019, 3:47 PM

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yup

fading flower Dec 29, 2019, 3:50 PM

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ok

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well with little girl uwu i think he changed it to something resembling a normal name to trick more people?

lofty basin Dec 29, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Is it not strange that no warnings have been issued yet about this?

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Quite strange indeed

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Unnecessary attention.

lofty basin Dec 29, 2019, 4:01 PM

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"unnecessary"? From my understanding absolutely everyone is getting these invites

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Damage could be prevented

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 4:01 PM

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You're feeding a troll that is living off your acknowledgement.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Tbh, I'd be more prone to believe one of the randoms in the instance is causing ddos or crashes on a per user basis. Feel like all this person is doing is adding. Just don't accept request from people you've no recollection of. Simple. Easy.

lofty basin Dec 29, 2019, 4:04 PM

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I mean, by now they should be branded nuisance from the amount of time they've been blocked

crystal fossil Dec 29, 2019, 4:05 PM

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And they're swiftly banned, I've noticed. So it's nothing to draw attention to.

vocal shard Dec 29, 2019, 4:16 PM

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someone wants to play VRChat with me?

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Maybe