but that's in days
#vrchat-general-2
pseudo basalt
i don't leave them facing forward anymore, after i'm done playing i tilt them vertically so there's now way they'd fall
strange wagon
yea i wouldn't use double sided tape π
pseudo basalt
No other options at the moment
strange wagon
shit needs to stick to the wall like a brick
wary hollow
get the trusty drill out
wary hollow
ahhh
pseudo basalt
I don't have a drill and my mom would be upset if I drilled holes in the walls
pseudo basalt
Honestly, i think my setup isn't that bad
Don't have money for a tripod and place to put it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/482662664724545555/655139265268678666/unknown.png
Here's a sketch of my setup
pseudo basalt
And somehow the left tracker feels like it's not there
wary hollow
little blind spot in ur room but minor
pseudo basalt
I kinda need to decide to stand on the carpet or sit on the bed but the left sensor won't see me on the bed unless i angle it
the mirror is just on the wall where the bed is
wary hollow
offf
pseudo basalt
100% gets hit by right sensor
also it's a bit stretched, the carpet isn't that big
strange wagon
as long as 1 can see you it's fine
when i'm lying/sitting on my bed there's only one looking at me and it's fine
wary hollow
they are 120 degress fov
hollow sluice
I am reinstalling windows to see if my tracking get better
pseudo basalt
It is but when I move arms in front of me it loses tracking when it really shouldn't
wary hollow
and remeber dont stare at them
pseudo basalt
And sometimes it get stuck with some offset and doens't fix itself for a while
Yes, i'll cover the mirror next time i'm in vr
strange wagon
that sounds even more like mirror
wary hollow
hmmm
strange wagon
hollow sluice
pumkin if that happens just make it loose tracking and it will fix itself
strange wagon
if it's not your mirror then idk. cause covering my mirror fixed all my tracking issues
hollow sluice
I dont even have a mirror, I coverd everything in blankets and still got tracking issues
so dont get your hopes up
strange wagon
another issue i had is my master lighthouse didn't have a good view on my support one
wary hollow
for me it was my Refrigerater that was ruining my tracking
strange wagon
so i had to angle master a bit to fix it
cause only master has to see support. not the other way around
wary hollow
Here is a way to Fix it listen
Close all the lights
Get a flashlight
Shine it and see what reflects
wary hollow
behind the bed
pseudo basalt
literally on the wall where the bed is
dead center
it's not very big tho but most likely the root of all problems anyway
worldly swan
Lmao my vrchat just crashed and all I could hear was eheheheheh oh on eheheheheheheh oh no eheheheheh...
strange wagon
oh wow
it is your mirror i tell you
one base station is looking right at it
exactly same situation. one base station is also looking at mine
pseudo basalt
Never been so hyped to cover something up
wary hollow
@pseudo basalt here is a rough sctech of the sensors in ur room the light is there IR https://imgur.com/a/XM4sJhJ
the mirror most be the issue
hollow sluice
llol
pseudo basalt
having some issues there buddy :^)
hollow sluice
should we @ the mods?
pseudo basalt
Yep, I've tried to trouble shoot it otherwise
You can get a skin for the base stations on the workshop that shows some lasers
Not entirely accurate but still a good approximation
And yes I'm convinced it's the mirror now, I haven't even considered it ugh
wary hollow
@pseudo basalt cover ur mirror it looks like its the issue by looking at how it could be reflecting
pseudo basalt
Yes, I see that, thanks
I'll cover it next time i'm in vr
I got another mirror on the left wall, i'll cover that one up just in case too
wary hollow
i used the same sctech to see whats the issue and concluded my tv is not to blame but the refrigerator
strange wagon
this is my room setup. the mirror is on my closet https://i.imgur.com/rTs14Wo.jpg
had to cover that up to fix everything
hollow sluice
this is mine and it tracks horribly https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538799579009908745/652532771511599114/Untitled.png
glad bolt
@vocal shard This is the video I watched to make my world, I hope it helps you. It's a very lengthy tutorial, but very helpful. https://youtu.be/HO-P2OqO1ac
strange wagon
@hollow sluice how far are they apart?
π€
cause your room looks a lot bigger than mine
and they're already 4 meters apart
hollow sluice
pff. well I know its less than 5 m
pseudo basalt
You should sketch it out
strange wagon
it does look a lot bigger than mine though π
hollow sluice
thats I a msure about my play area is about 2x2 m
strange wagon
like a lot
hollow sluice
lemme just take a picture
strange wagon
ye cause close to 5m would make sense that it would have issues
@hollow sluice look how smol my thing is. and they're 4m apart. https://i.imgur.com/7n1rnzZ.png
strange wagon
π€
hollow sluice
well my tracking is fine unless I want to move fast or I play for longer than an hour
strange wagon
googled it. someone with the same issue you have. says he fixed it by updating bios
hollow sluice
haha
strange wagon
this would also explain your poor performance with a good rig
hollow sluice
I have the latest bios
strange wagon
chipset drivers and everything? π€
wary hollow
use usb 3 disable camera have high priorty on Vr compistor
hollow sluice
yes
strange wagon
you just can't have bad performance with a gpu like that
hollow sluice
well look at me
strange wagon
hollow sluice
also my camera on my vive just doesnt work
it worked once than I updated steam vr and it never worked ever since even in other apps lol
wary hollow
then something a program is cuzing the issue for me it was bitdefender anti virus
hollow sluice
I dont have an antivirus
wary hollow
then something else
strange wagon
the thing that updated my bios gave me some weird network driver which fucked up my internet
had to uninstall that too to fix my internet
wary hollow
hmmmm
sinful matrix
Helll yeah blue man avatars problem is back again
hollow sluice
I am uploading my room picture
tight pike
vocal shard
yeah, give it time, its /just/ server issues
hollow sluice
as you can see, pretty much everything that can be reflective has been covered up with blankets lol
wary hollow
you are reflecive (= cover up
hollow sluice
buttt
hollow sluice
I covered up that before. it didnt make a difference
vocal shard
that must be it lol
vocal shard
im kidding, duh :P
hollow sluice
well how am I suppose to know
wary hollow
vocal shard
whats the distance between the base stations and is the room ceiling light reflective?
slim temple
@hollow sluice redotix, are you having tracking issues? is it drifting?
hollow sluice
it is and I did cover it up before. also lemme mesure pt
rigid crescent
The door knobs are what thrbed out to be giving my friend issues after he covered literally everything else lol
slim temple
in my experience your room should be more than fine. Usually when you have "juddery drifting"
thorny totem
Some lights can interfere too :) (Sun, some light bulb etc) @hollow sluice
slim temple
it's actually interference in a different way. Usually, there's rogue IR
hollow sluice
@slim temple its difficult to describe. no matter where I am, after like an hour of playing my hmd tracking ( my fbt and hands are fine) starts constantly flying away and spazzing out
thorny totem
yes @slim temple
wary hollow
thats vibration are they sequerd well enough they look like it
hollow sluice
@thorny totem my window is fully covered up and I have lights off when I play
slim temple
that's interesting. Usually it's the fbt that spazzes out, and that's USUALLY due to radio signal from the usb to them
slim temple
I actually agonized with my trackers thinking it was the basestations. So, as they're saying, I bet you're getting some vibration
vocal shard
Oh boy US server is dying
slim temple
have you tried setting the basestations to A and b and using the sync cable?
vocal shard
US server
as if there was anything else than US west servers lol
thorny totem
@hollow sluice Mirrors, IR and USB bandwidth that's pretty much the trium vira of bad tracking. I suppose you remade a setup from scratch?
hollow sluice
the distance between the stations is about 4.4m
strange wagon
same as mine
slim temple
that's pretty far, try it anyway. That makes the stations not require a sync pulse
thorny totem
Vive?
hollow sluice
also I dont have the sync cable
coarse depot
are the servers being attacked
strange wagon
mine's like 4.5 too
hollow sluice
yeah vive
wary hollow
my LH distance are 5.5
slim temple
one other thing it could be is usb bandwidth, you could try disabling power down mode on usb in the device manager
ruby needle
@coarse depot that is unknown, but there is current server issues.
coarse depot
oh ok
pseudo basalt
Yeah i'd look at power options
vocal shard
@hollow sluice if you want a sync cable, its a normal 3.5mm male to male stereo audio cable, any from amazon works fine
coarse depot
just wondering what was going on
hollow sluice
amazon doesnt ship here but even than I doubt that would make any difference
vocal shard
Png: 19331
nice.
wary hollow
usb then it could
hollow sluice
I tried other usb ports. usb 3 and 2
strange wagon
@hollow sluice are the lighthouses above your head?
slim temple
does restarting make it go away?
wary hollow
xD
strange wagon
hey i'm 5'10
thorny totem
No matter which port, a crappy driver or controller could be the cause @hollow sluice
strange wagon
hmmm then i'm out of ideas
slim temple
@thorny totem not exactly, every pair of usb ports is a seperate device technically
hollow sluice
@slim temple yes. restarting my pc will make it go away for about an hour and than it comes back
slim temple
each root hub is it's own pci device.
thorny totem
@slim temple Depend of the controller
slim temple
that's right, and the reason why computers tend to have several EHCI XHCI devices from different mfg is because you actually can't have more than one root usb enumerator with the same hwid
pseudo basalt
hollow sluice
I mean its not exactly an hour but it just starts failing after a while of playing
pseudo basalt
If it's somewhat consistent then you can probably narrow it down
slim temple
that does sound like potentially usb power draw. For a vive, try a usb 2.0 port
wary hollow
whats ur cpu
hollow sluice
I have been trying to narrow it down since august
slim temple
and make sure nothing else is on the port next to it
hollow sluice
I have tried both usb 3 and 2 with just the vive plugged in. no difference, I currently use usb 2 for my hmd
wary hollow
what cpu are u using
vocal shard
are you using the link box?
hollow sluice
ryzen 5 1600 OCd to 3.9 ghz
wary hollow
ahhh so u OCed too try this UC and see if the issue becomes bigger
pseudo basalt
A friend of mine had issues after a while of playing usually too, but he'd bluescreen
thorny totem
A defective lighthouse/camera is a thing too :)
pseudo basalt
For weeks until we decided to check his OC
slim temple
it's possible that after an hour the motor on your 1.0 basestations gets weird
pseudo basalt
But why would a defective lighthouse work well for ~an hour
slim temple
I've been very, very lucky for 3 years with mine but I think one is starting to get funky
pseudo basalt
And then work again after a restart
thorny totem
yes until it overheat somehow
wary hollow
bearing issue
slim temple
oh, here's a question @hollow sluice - you say restarting your computer makes the problem go away
hollow sluice
I underclocked to stock speeds and had the same issue, but my games ran at 15 fps avarage so that wasnt an option anyways
thorny totem
could be @wary hollow
wary hollow
heats up slowly then starts acting up
slim temple
are your basestations powering down?
hollow sluice
yes. they are
slim temple
AHH
okay: this happened to me before
with wireless powerdown mode - I've had it where after about an hour since the bt device in the link box is not being used
(all it gets used for is basestation power control)
my basestations would sleep then immediately wake up
hollow sluice
oh yeah I disabled the powerdown mode just now
wary hollow
@slim temple that annoys me
slim temple
due to usb sleeping.
so it's either one of two things- basestations randomly sleeping then waking up when steamvr has a fit
slim temple
or, bearing in one of the stations is starting to go and it gets off kilter after about an hour or doesn't quite spin at the right rpm
you can try tilting one of them slightly sideways to the left then re-doing room setup
strange wagon
@hollow sluice can you take pictures of both lighthouses while they are turned on. i wanna see the lights. we can check if they are broken
wary hollow
how?
slim temple
the angle they're on doesn't matter as much as long as the room is covered, but the motors are mounted 90deg from one another so having them both at a near 45 can sometimes prevent angular issues
strange wagon
phone camera can see the lights
slim temple
(especially true if one of the lights in the array is out)
hollow sluice
they are fine I know very well if a lighthouse is broken. both of the lights are shining. I already had a broken base station that I replaced with the same issue
slim temple
I think what shioro is referring to is the bundle of IR leds
sometimes one of those can go out in the grid
hollow sluice
well all of the lights are working fine
slim temple
where all but one is on, and it can get weird
as frustrating as this all is, it's still one of the best and least problematic tracking systems most of the time π
strange wagon
well this is how it is supposed to look like atleast https://i.imgur.com/NuAvFro.jpg
hollow sluice
it does look like that
strange wagon
π€
wary hollow
looks nice
vocal shard
i love that IR led constellation of the base stations
slim temple
it's neat to watch in slow mo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yuUZV7cgd8
hollow sluice
@strange wagon but IDK what kind of base stations do you have but both of mine have only 9 lights in the array, one on the bottom and one on the side
vocal shard
@slim temple mmmmmhhhh drools
wary hollow
strange wagon
your problems are a mystery π€
wary hollow
sadly iphone has IR filter on camera
hollow sluice
@wary hollow yeah just like that
strange wagon
actually. why is mine different lol
hollow sluice
maybe older model
strange wagon
i have way more lights
wary hollow
what phone did u use
strange wagon
galaxy s10+
hollow sluice
I used a galaxy s4
wary hollow
ahhh i remember when i had S9 it has no IR Filterr
strange wagon
different layout and more lights π€
wary hollow
wait ill wip a camera that i know has no filter
strange wagon
i mean if you take a look at mine and then yours. it looks like a different model
i didn't know there are different 1.0s ? π€
strange wagon
mine looks pretty sci fi
pseudo basalt
even with everything off
strange wagon
don't know if you've seen
pseudo basalt
but i can see the reflection in the other mirror
hollow sluice
I will just use mines opened up lol
strange wagon
@pseudo basalt https://i.imgur.com/NuAvFro.jpg
hollow sluice
but yeah, another issue
why does my hand tracking just STOP if I am moving my hands too fast?
I cant get better at beat saber because whenever I play hard songs my tracking just stops on one of my hands very consistently almost at the same parts of the songs
pseudo basalt
I can change the shutter speed of my phone camera
It looks so blurry once it takes the actual picture tho
Does my hand really shake that much when I press the picture button
strange wagon
i really seem to have a different 1.0 model
pseudo basalt
hollow sluice
HE SEE
strange wagon
i can't find anything about another 1.0 basestation
hollow sluice
that base station is WOKE af
wary hollow
alright the pic is the same but its pink lights this time hmmmm
pseudo basalt
Also changing the shutter speed so you can actually see that it's not continuous
strange wagon
in my picture it looks like my phone can see through the entire thing lol
hollow sluice
yeah
wary hollow
so are there 2 vertions of 1.0
strange wagon
yea. i want to know which one is superior
pseudo basalt
hollow sluice
are you sure you dont have some ghetto base station made in some attic?
strange wagon
i have more lights and it looks more sci fi. so more lights = better tracking ? π€
vocal shard
mine used to be similar, only 9 of the IR leds instead of 15
strange wagon
i heard 9 is the minimum you need for tracking
so maybe 15 equals better tracking idk
hollow sluice
@strange wagon the lights look like they were just glued there. they are very disorganized and messy layout
strange wagon
both are the exact same layout though. it doesn't look random
hollow sluice
ooo
there it is. the end of the rabbit hole
I am guessing the old 1.0s came with the 3 cabled headset and the new ones with the 3in one cabled headset
strange wagon
ah. so mine are first generation
hollow sluice
seems like it
strange wagon
no wonder mine are so loud
hollow sluice
the left is a 1st gen 1.0 and the right looks like a work in progress of the 2.0 base station
and this is the 2nd gen 1.0 https://i.imgur.com/uO2AC3m.jpg
still a 2 motor setup
wary hollow
ahhh was searching for a pic good tho still 2 motors
hollow sluice
well they are more expensive and dont work with the vive so
its not really a thing about preference
vale wave
Howmuch are 1st gen now
hollow sluice
I think around 130β¬
strange wagon
150β¬
vale wave
Jebus
strange wagon
they are out of stock everywhere anyway
hollow sluice
thats how much I payed for mine
faint skiff
Original base stations had the LEDs in a staggered arrangement rather than a grid.
hollow sluice
yeah
severe shell
Hello people, I'm quite/quiet nosey and I want to know what's going on
vale wave
No yukie
hollow sluice
tracking issues is whats been going on with me for about 3 months now
severe shell
Okay then
vale wave
So who likew the oculus sensors
strange wagon
2 people with second gen tracking issues and here am with first gen and no issues. hmmmmmm π€
hollow sluice
I dont want to sound rude
strange wagon
just teasing
hollow sluice
but saying that just makes me feel like very upset over something I couldnt controll
I cant controll what I am buying
hollow sluice
you think I havent tried that before?
wary hollow
ohhh
hollow sluice
like I said, this has been an issue for months
wary hollow
hmmmm then when u get issues touch the sensors so if they are hot
strange wagon
not just your lighthouses too
hollow sluice
?
strange wagon
since you don't have expected performance
your pc should perform a lot better i assume
thinking about what's inside
hollow sluice
yeah but I am not spending more money on this piece of shit
nothing will ever make a difference
strange wagon
there obviously is something wrong π
wary hollow
tried playing without fbt and see if u still get the issue
hollow sluice
well I know that
strange wagon
since he has the issue in beatsaber i don't think it's a fbt issue
hollow sluice
but at this point I dont see the point of spending more money on it in the hopes of changing something
wary hollow
every game ?
hollow sluice
yes
wary hollow
then shut one sensor off and play 180 for while and see do for both sensors
hollow sluice
in beatsaber for my tracking to start flying away takes way longer. usually around 3 hours but the hands stopping tracking just happens all hte time
strange wagon
@hollow sluice what's the brand of your power supply btw
hollow sluice
its an FSP raider psu
strange wagon
hmm that's not a lidl brand. i really don't know what's wrong then
hollow sluice
no one is
strange wagon
i could ask the obvious but you probably checked
dense monolith
Burp
hollow sluice
most people that try to help just tell me that I am retarded and it my fault so I mean its not like I care anymore
I have had it likethat for years
strange wagon
performance issues after an hour and tracking not tracking fast enough sounds like a power issue but idk
my second guess would be motherboard
wary hollow
somethings is acting up after an hour u have to try and pin point it
strange wagon
if it's going on for years i would fix it
hollow sluice
its not exactly after an hour. point it it works for a while and than it fuck off
strange wagon
there's always a way. just need an expert to take a look
hollow sluice
I am reinstalling windows soon to see if its a driver/ software issue but like always its probably not gonna change anything
strange wagon
chipset drivers out of date could also be a thing. but you said you updated bios etc.
dense monolith
Tommorow im gonna play my new laptop
wraith portal
does anyone know how i could fix my menu reticle not showing up?
pseudo basalt
There's an option in the settings
If your mic icon doesn't show up either hit ctrl+H or change it in the quick menu
hollow sluice
I think he means the aiming lasers
this has been an issue for a lot of people recently
strange wagon
@hollow sluice you probably already did that a long time ago. but you have your power plan on high performance right
strange wagon
pseudo basalt
You mean the aiming lasers that break because people use mods that break after updates? 
strange wagon
does vrcx fall under that category
pseudo basalt
Looks like a separate application so it wouldn't
strange wagon
i just hear a lot of ppl using it now and it being handy
pseudo basalt
No idea because I don't have that many friends in vrc
And the ones being offline don't matter that much to me that i'd go removing them so shrug
pseudo basalt
Apparently
Bit of a divide between what people generally call clients and mods
But it's not too far apart
covert blade
It's a modded client, so technically mods, but because people are lazy they just call it client
Which is technically completely incorrect but whatever, can't tell people how to call things
hollow sluice
lazy/uneducated
covert blade
Same with Avi
pseudo basalt
Well when people say clients they usually mean the malicious shitters
covert blade
Avitar? Aviatar? I can't make sense of that but everyone's doing it and everyone gets it so oh well
Back in my day people called those people cheaters
pseudo basalt
But yes, it's essentially the same thing just the terminology is different
covert blade
Or incorrectly "Hackers"
pseudo basalt
how to change skin
hollow sluice
well most people that mod their game do it maliciously
pseudo basalt
But see clients and skiddies have a negative connotation
pseudo basalt
Apparently there's heaps of QoL mods because vrc UX is clunky as all hell
But that's probably because they're so busy with unity 2018
covert blade
There's plenty of simple Quality of Life mods that don't interrupt anyone and some of these features I dont understand why they're not part of the base game already
Like being able to see the avatar author of the avatar YOU are wearing
pseudo basalt
Because different priorities
covert blade
Nah, instead you need a second player or alt account to see that
pseudo basalt
And yes that's a thing that annoys me as well
covert blade
Or an illegal mod
covert blade
But I mean, modders doing all the good things that the developers can't be bothered to do either at all or at the moment?
Basically every game ever
Difference between VRChat and most other games is that VRChat will yeet you out of the game for it
pseudo basalt
Unity games are too easy to load mods into
covert blade
It becomes pretty hilarious once you know about protective mods that are intended to protect you against the bad things other people do π
pseudo basalt
Beat saber, risk of rain 2, vrchat
Only reason mods are so prominent is because of unity
And because it's scripted in c# that you can freely decompile and read
But it's a double edged sword
covert blade
It doesnt even really matter if it is Unity or not. Even in other games with entirely different engines people freely mod the games
pseudo basalt
In the case of beat saber and risk of rain it's nothing but positive
covert blade
*Whether or not there's official support
pseudo basalt
Not all games allow it or support it
Yes, games get modded even if unsupported but it usually needs a lot of extra effort to create modloaders
covert blade
True
pseudo basalt
That's why some games take years to be modded properly
covert blade
Also, isn't Risk of Rain multiplayer too?
pseudo basalt
Yes but it's coop
covert blade
Well
pseudo basalt
And everyone needs to have the same mods to connect
covert blade
Ah
pseudo basalt
beat saber would never be as popular without custom songs
it's pretty sad that people decide to be malicious
but even without clients they'd do the next best thing to be annoying
covert blade
Yup
Even in games where you don't think cheaters would be a problem, you'll find people somehow still managing to bother others
pseudo basalt
People are just sad
covert blade
Was very unfun in Arma 2 in a coop scenario when someone came around with his scripts just to grief the whole team
pseudo basalt
And certain sad people like to spread it
covert blade
Didnt matter they were his teammates, he just wanted to see others struggle
That's why I'm kinda glad that at least the modding communities for VRChat I know don't intend to be malicious at all while also being disappointed at the fact that it doesn't really matter for the developers and moderators
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Thankfully I very rarely bump into people who are actually jerks though
slim temple
in vrchat it's particularly bad because it's a social game, and most people are in vr. losing autonomy of your body or having someone move the player without accepting it is bad, for example. Or just overriding everyone's sound? Not good. Another issue is things even as simple as player chairs. You could, for example, override the boundries and force everyone to interact with it, which could ruin a public map. Now everyone has to sit on you, and can't do anything but that, and in doing so, you can teleport them. It's.. not good.
With great freedom also comes responsiblity and people will always be immature script kiddies until they realize that doing that isn't how you make friends.
covert blade
I've seen an avatar that was like that and it made me wish for a client side chair toggle
I have full body, chairs are usually bad for me
And avatar chairs can't be turned off unless you hide the entire avatar. World chairs can only sometimes be turned off
Great for the desktop user that don't have to worry about accidentally clicking on the chair on the other side of the room
I used to play Arma 3 a lot but I'm not super interested in it at the moment
Mission making is fun
The editor is 100% the reason I bought Arma 2 and 3
But yeah even in that game I've seen malicious stuff happen in PvE missions
Let's just spawn a giant text in front of you or blow up vehicles or kill players or I dunno
If they can't do that they can just sit in a tank and just teamkill anyone leaving the base
There is a very simple rule: If it can be done, someone will do it
My frames ;_;
Although it'd be hella cool if it would work
gm_construct is in VRChat actually
With various props that you can sit on and toss around
Feels just like GMod tbh xD
There is a bathtub with like 3 seats and you can toss it around
Hey hey, imagine playing something that isn't VRChat
Unimaginable heresy
So I was thinking about playing Minecraft again but like, woah, playing something other than VRChat woot?
I mean, who needs other games tbh
You have shooting PvP and PVE games in VRChat, you can play Minecraft in VRChat
You can eat drink and sleep in VRChat
You can watch movies
Honestly why leave :D
Usually got plenty who are online
139 atm
I made like 5 or so yesterday during the meetup?
And 3 of them sent me a request
Community Meetup
I thought I've seen your name there π€
Ah
vestal pier
Sasha, you're thinking of Chim-Cham perhaps :-)
covert blade
Yes
vestal pier
Agreed
covert blade
When two people have similar names and you confuse them
Like Yukio and Yuiko
Fionna and Fooni
Me big stupid
vestal pier
40+ typically
covert blade
yes
vestal pier
Yeah, well multiple - the point of the meetup is to travel between worlds
covert blade
Your frames will die first
inner cape
has animators always not worked in mirrors?
its been so long ive done anything i forgot a lotta things
bleeh
vale wave
Blooh
vestal pier
Yes?
inner cape
that sucks
covert blade
Me: Struggles to keep 30 FPS with all avatars hidden
Cyan: Has everything shown and streams it
vestal pier
Cyanlaser
covert blade
A person
inner cape
beefy pc gang
covert blade
But yeah Cyan's always at the meetups and always streams it
Meanwhile I can hardly maintain 30 FPS with everything hidden
covert blade
@snow token The event server is pinned in #events
It's always on sunday, just sub to the community meetup and you'll get a ping when it starts
Then you just click on the invite link to join
vestal pier
Meetup is getting very popular as of late
It was always quite big but sometimes we're hitting 60 - 70 people
desert stratus
i havent been to the meetup in over a month > <
vestal pier
i have noticed π
covert blade
Is there a way to quickly see how many people are in the instance?
desert stratus
maybe thats a good thing tho cuz my pc would die with 70 people in a world
holy fuck you actually noticed
covert blade
Because world just shows Full/40
desert stratus
i usually just try to be as silent as possible
vestal pier
i look for names
desert stratus
understandable
covert blade
So you just count
vestal pier
@barren torrent you can count them easier in console i think but no
covert blade
:X
vestal pier
basically manually :-(
covert blade
You goofball you mentioned the wrong person
vestal pier
I honestly didnt intend to ping anyone just wanted to do @sasha
covert blade
Silly Blue
vestal pier
im sure sasha2 will survive π€·
vestal pier
blue will remember this
covert blade
In a different server people have managed to ping the wrong Mason though
Sunday
It's 10PM CET dunno 'bout 'Murica
vestal pier
basically if your in europe its pretty late :-)
rigid crescent
Yeah there were too many people to really enjoy it to the fullest
Even with it all blocked
vestal pier
i attend the opening most of the time - but drop off after that because i have bad pc and bad internet
covert blade
Mic what safety settings did you have when you joined yesterday? xD
Also, I noticed that changing safety settings during the meetup messes it up and some people are still shown when they should be hidden
Fixes itself after world change
vestal pier
yeah its not perfect
covert blade
So I should probs get used to setting my safety settings BEFORE I join a 40+ player instance
Also it takes like 5 minutes for all avatars to actually load in
Also, Paci with his worse PC than mine thinking he could handle having everyone shown while using Kinect
The server is pinned
Here
wary hollow
Vrchat offline still?
covert blade
No
broken spindle
Is there an lfg channel or something? Cuz I seem to always have trouble finding a good group of people to play with
covert blade
Well, you have the entirety of this Discord that you could use to connect with people + 7k+ people ingame
warm steppe
You are what you eat can have two separate meanings.
warm steppe
m
broken plover
a
covert blade
Spam?
broken plover
I wanted it to be "owu man"
probably the last time I can use these emotes because my nitro is gonna expire later today
slim temple
real comfy hours at the office - everyone on break
means keeping warm with unity and blender and udon things π
vocal shard
Gt ready for more quest robots on Wednesday, we gun have alot
vapid sentinel
Anyone wanna join VRChat with me
molten gale
Tired 
boreal quail
:/
twin fractal
π―
peak cipher
heya guys how is your afternoon
@snow token do i know ashley from here likein vr chat?
icy otter
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 7592 users in VRChat currently
icy otter
login servers down?
first the voice chat was very awkward for us all in the lobby and now i can't login
ruby needle
looks fine for now. 
peak cipher
oh ok should i say hi and ask her how she is doing is that a good thing to do??
hidden veldt
peak cipher
naw i just wondered she seems pretty cool and chill
he/she doesnt matter i think the person is very chill and i appreciate the person a lot
really cool human being
cunning basalt
Is there a reason that there arent any cheating reason on VRChat?
polar jasper
quartz kestrel
hello everyone
fading flower
gluten tag
night lark
i saw someone in vr using speech to text to speech and i was wondering how you can do that
peak cipher
idk how i mean i can look into it and try to help out as best as i can
i think its a program already installed in the computer to the best of my knowledge
night lark
what program tho
vocal shard
are the servers fucking dying?
I can't get in at all, constant login issues and black screens
slate verge
i was playing it earlier just fine
vocal shard
earlier
slate verge
yeah like 10 minutes ago
vocal shard
i think so
floral flaxBOT
There are 7902 users in VRChat currently
covert blade
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
vocal shard
nvm i got on fine
covert blade
My nose hurts >_<
molten gale
F
vocal shard
Oh my vive dosent hurt my nose, you can take off the plastic nose piece
covert blade
And that from just two or so hours of playing. My trackers were still half charged
Should I take it off?
vocal shard
You can its a possibility
it snaps on and off when you clean the vive
just becareful taking it off if you do. I have mine off. just the thing is, you can see inbetween the space that it leaves, so idk if you'd like that
covert blade
Hmm yeah that is a bit of a problem
I mean, I could switch off my lights but the problem is that I rely a lot on my camera
pure hemlock
Having space to look down and see real life is nice tbh. I had the nose piece out for a year and a half. Made it easy to look at things in real life or play with my phone with the headseton
pure hemlock
It was more comfortable not to have rubber pushing on my nose constantly
covert blade
I see
pure hemlock
I got used to the light bleeding in from my nose area and it didnt bother me after a bit
covert blade
Because comfort is like my number one issue atm. Too much weight on the nose
And I look terrible when I get out of VR
But I dont remember that having been an issue before
pure hemlock
My nose looked fine after taking the rubber out but I still have the red skin around my eyes and cheeks and the messy hair obviously
covert blade
I dont think the messy hair can really be fixed unless we had strapless VR. Red around my eyes and cheeks is okay, but my nose just feels, weird
Just pressing too hard onto it so I'll try taking off the rubber thingy and see if that's better to use
rough pulsar
@covert blade If your vive is pressing hard on your nose the usual cause is the top strap isn't tight enough.
Another way to compensate if you have the DAS is to add a small weight to the back to counter the weight of the Vive itself.
covert blade
Who darest
Oh hey
I see, though I only have the default strap and not super interested in the deluxe one. So just make the top strap tighter?
rough pulsar
Yeah
covert blade
kk
For the very least, I'd like to survive until my fullbody trackers die
Ok made it tighter, now my headset sits a bit higher up too, hmm, gonna have to see how well that'll work out later on
normal elm
@covert blade Studioform Creative has some good straps to alleviate that feeling on your nose. The strap works to redistribute the weight kind of like a hat so it feels like it's sitting on your head rather than attached to your face
You could easily make something similar at home, but I have bought these for various HMD and they work really well. Here's a pic of the Vive one you could emulate: https://www.studioformcreative.com/?lightbox=dataItem-jy2ji9dv
finite kraken
I have 3 ranks for vrchat users. Desktop peasants, upper body casuals, and full body gods..
pseudo basalt
Sounds like a bit of a divide
rigid crescent
Half-Body sounds better, that's what my friend calls it
finite kraken
Fear not peasants for I am strong and you are weak... here I offer wisdom...praise me
molten gale
covert blade
Laughs in Vive Trackers
molten gale
Cease please.
slate verge
why is steamvr launching byitself for me?
covert blade
Are you accidentally pressing anything on your headset or controllers?
broken plover
idk. My wmr portal sometimes opens itself too after I shut it down
slate verge
nope
covert blade
Or launching a game in VR mode?
slate verge
nope
covert blade
Hm
molten gale
Dont be racist, I am a building
covert blade
The same way you download any other game through Steam
Also, you need to download SteamVR
shell basalt
You can buy like download codes for SteamVR games right
broken plover
just get them on steam directly. For some reason almost no steamkey seller sells vr keys
shell basalt
My relatives are looking for things to get me for Christmas, that's why
covert blade
There's a winter sale going on right now
rigid crescent
Oh, you want a Steam Gift Card then
broken plover
You can also ask them to get you a steam gift card so you can use that to buy vr games
lol mic same idea
shell basalt
Oh
dense monolith
Im gonna try to customize my own vr skin tommorow
broken plover
avatar
rigid crescent
Nice, check out Kareeda's Avatar guides. https://youtu.be/VBZu_wNzERw
rigid crescent
It doesn't particularly bother me, but I wonder why the term "skin" is so popular with newer users
broken plover
my guess is because all other games use skins (like weapon skins from csgo for example) and the term avatar isnt really used that much outside of vrc
dense monolith
Yeah
covert blade
Newer users don't know and in other games you'd just call it skin
What I wonder more is how people say "Avi" when they mean "Avatar"
Aviatar, Avitar, I dunno I dont get it
dense monolith
New users will try too
Move their legs without trackers
Try to jump irl
Get motion sickness
Ask for a avatar
Ask many questions
molten gale
"Avy"
covert blade
Ask for Baby Yoda and avatars with guns
molten gale
Not "Avi"
covert blade
Also they call gestures "Abilities"
I mean, I dont blame them that much for the last part. If you only seen a few videos of it you have no idea how exactly people are doing the things they do
dense monolith
Yeah
When i get in i will be so anti social even though i bought the game to become more social
twin fractal
Anyone know where to get skin with flashy effects?
slate verge
@twin fractal NAS avatar world has a whole bunch of them
covert blade
OhDearGod
dense monolith
Vi havent gotten it yet
peak cipher
@covert blade you doing good? is there a fresh pot of coffee where your at i could use some coffee
covert blade
Am fine
peak cipher
your vr glasses pinching your nose still
twin fractal
Rip
peak cipher
how is work btw
covert blade
Have vacation
peak cipher
good take time off you deserve it your worked damn hard this year your a good human being
much respect to you
lone radish
play what sir
peak cipher
if i had moneey to go around i would take all the devs all the people who made this game work on this discord etc to hawaii and give them a vacation they are amazing people the amount of work they put into making games quite aamazing actually mad props
covert blade
What's stopping ya from playin' Dain?
lone radish
im playing without a vr
peak cipher
@twin fractal if i were able to play now i would hang out with you and play a round or two of whateer games you had
lone radish
can we play games too
peak cipher
im stil waitinf for my game to download .... rainbow 6 siege...ugh
lone radish
ayy i have that
twin fractal
@covert blade @peak cipher I'm away from computer rn π
lone radish
cool
covert blade
D:
lone radish
bruh
peak cipher
hey dood that is totally understandable you prob have fam that you spend time with dood i get that
i swear that if the devs dont get christmas day off liek everyone should be getting then im gonna go on a game strike for the whole day
faint skiff
Keep in mind that being on Discord doesn't mean they're actually at work...
peak cipher
yea i understand i just care a lot thats all
devout island
Have you tried reinstalling the game
devout island
Not sure about that but another person had the same problem
They sent a support ticket but I'm not sure what happened with that
dense monolith
Iol
vocal shard
yep getting black screens here too ;-;
broken sparrow
hmm ok im having a issue now
i got this crash error and the game crashed so i went to reopen the game and as soon as I load into my home world it crashes again. What do I do to fix this?
devout island
Did you try reinstalling
broken sparrow
ill try that
dense monolith
The game might be overpowerd rn by how many people are on it u prob gotta wait and give it time
devout island
Are you sure it's been fine these days
twin fractal
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 856 users in VRChat currently
covert blade
Uh
molten gale
F
twin fractal
Oof
faint skiff
Clear your cache, could be corru... oh, yeah the game's fucked, lol.
covert blade
Bad time to get on right now huh
dense monolith
Yeah
Most kids will be getting to open gifts early
Since its almost christmas eve
pseudo basalt
(It's also not been fine these days, there's been like 3 drops last/this week?)
rigid crescent
Was this 3? I thought it was 2
pseudo basalt
Maybe 2, not sure
rigid crescent
still bad either way
pseudo basalt
mhm
dense monolith
Im kinda glad i didnt get my vr on Christmas bc its going to be very packed
rigid crescent
The last one lasted much longer though, this seemed like a quick down and up
pseudo basalt
aren't they switching to steam relays or something
rigid crescent
What is? Your house?
pseudo basalt
vrc
dense monolith
Yeah
rigid crescent
π€ What's wrong with it being packed, if anything christmas is the best time to meet new VR peeps
dense monolith
Too many ppl = errors
pseudo basalt
That's not really an issue
rigid crescent
I'm not quite sure that's how that works
pseudo basalt
There have been far more people around with the whole knuckles thing and servers were fairly stable
rigid crescent
We'll probably see a pretty normal peak on christmas day, I'm not expecting a massive boom
Maybe just a weekend-like peak
latent widget
there won't be a massive boom thankfully
if there is though, servers will be fine
there has been more players on before, so we have the headroom for it
pseudo basalt
A rise in quest users
rigid crescent
poor quest users
pseudo basalt
rigid crescent
I had some kid yelling "do you have a skin are you wearing a skin do you havea skin on"
latent widget
eh, quest users shouldn't make a big impact anyway
rigid crescent
So apparently he thinks that I don't have an avatar selected
you don't see many "why is everyone a robot?" these days though, so I guess someone eventually tells them
twin fractal
This is cute but also sad
rigid crescent
he was annoying and not cute
twin fractal
I stand corrected
latent widget
oh well
devout island
Just let the kids play they'll eventually learn about it
vocal shard
Nah 
devout island
don't worry that happens 9 times out of 10 you'll be fine
But seriously you're gonna be ok nobody who's a cool guy does that
rigid crescent
wao my message got botted
dense monolith
So i people will say im a trap
lusty owl
Ok I admit to sitting here and watching y'all but that doesn't matter now...the chances of you getting hate on your voice is so very slim...plus, lolis are adorable
devout island
That's even better everyone in game loves that
rigid crescent
Jamieeee we still doing christmas stuff?
vocal shard
Imma try
devout island
no
lusty owl
Ok
dense monolith
Traps seemed hated
lusty owl
"Traps" is a word I've never heard in-game before actually
pseudo basalt
Nah more like some people don't know what the term means
and just call everyone a trap
broken sparrow
ok i reinstalled the game and im still having the issue and the problem could be too many people are playing?
dense monolith
yes
rigid crescent
What's the issue?
devout island
Right now just wait for a while and go in again
broken sparrow
and other users are getting this issue?
devout island
Some people before had the issue too
broken sparrow
it's crashing when i load into a world
lusty owl
I enjoy traps because I get a chance to improve vocal ranges so I don't always sound like a depressed, sarcastic, meth head all the time
rigid crescent
Nope, just logged in now to test it.
lusty owl
Not to change the subject, though
rigid crescent
https://puu.sh/ESEGH/15d24cb540.jpg home world lookin fresh as usual
broken sparrow
who do i send the crash.dmp and error files too?
rigid crescent
pseudo basalt
Everyone should sound cute without being judged 
echo olive
Advance Merry Christmas Everyone
broken sparrow
well i got to wait for support to get back to me rip
nothing on my end is helping π¦
dense monolith
Everytime i turn my mic on in every game everyone says "what type of voice changer do you use"
Then i wanna cry inside even if i fall
latent widget
Well then it means you have a unique voice. Thats not a bad thing either
Especially when everyone in the room stops to listen to you xD
rigid crescent
wouldnt worry about it
latent widget
Mhm
devout island
That means your voice is good
shell zinc
voices are a painful thing
timid wedge
we gettin ddos'd or somethin? infinite login loading screen happening here
ruby needle
Looking fine so far.
devout island
I haven't seen anyone complain
rigid crescent
a few have but every time i test it i can log in and load fine
about to jump in now and see how my new GPU does
timid wedge
hm.
pure hemlock
Voices are a beautiful thing except for mine but everyone else is beautiful
timid wedge
weird
i... have no idea why that split in to 2 messages
but yeah. infinite loading screen here. restarted steamvr a bit ago just to be sure
devout island
Did you try deleting your cache
vocal shard
I talked to Dio from JoJo in VRChat today, 10/10 on yelp
meager plaza
"Error in gc - VirtualAlloc remapping failed"
Now that's a crash i've never seen before
devout island
When did that happen
meager plaza
Open great pug lobby lol
Apparently its when you run out of RAM, huh i have 16gigs :(
devout island
For some reason it always uses a lot of ram in the great pug
random pike
Hello, I am new to virtual reality and I have several doubts, I would like to know how I can watch 360ΒΊ YouTube videos on my oculus rift s, but not as if I was watching the screen of my monitor, I want to see them in 360ΒΊ.
In the Oculus store there is no YouTube application
devout island
Not really sure I don't have oculus
random pike
Ok, but is there an official YouTube application or just can't be done?
ruby needle
Please read this servers ruleset
you allready started a conversation abotu that topic in the #vrchat-general-1
Thanks.
random pike
I know and I'm sorry but in the other chat nobody answered
random pike
I'm just asking for help
ruby needle
That is not an excuse for ignoring rules.
unborn fiber
@random pike join the oculus rift facebook group or a simple good search will show you the answer
random pike
@unborn fiber the problem is that everything I find is in English I am Arabic and my English is very bad I need to use the google translator to speak in this chat so I am looking for someone who can help me in a simple way
shell zinc
you all have fine voices except that Valkyrie person
dense monolith
Omg nu u sound good
Should i open my laptop rn or wait till christmas
Im kinda over waiting for christmas
atomic nimbus
hey
unborn fiber
@random pike https://support.oculus.com/1707817122769530/
random pike
@unborn fiber thank you very much, but what I want is to watch the videos directly from youtube not having to download the video, my problem is that , I can not see the videos without being downloaded if I download the videos I can see them but not in streaming
dense monolith
Anyone have any recommendations on vr avatats
rigid crescent
You can just use the VR Youtube app for that can't you
devout island
@dense monolith What would you like to use
devout island
Just look for an avatar world in the category and you'll find it easily
stray vortex
So i can open my menu with my left hand but i cant click the menu with my right hand. It works if i do it opposite, but im right handed so this just is infuriating, anyway to fix this <@&397642795457970181>
twilit fiber
Hello
ruby needle
@stray vortex and you ping us because of that?
we're chat mod's not game dev's or support
twilit fiber
Hope everyone is doing good
ruby needle
consider this a warning
stray vortex
Oh im sorry
twilit fiber
Oh dang
ruby needle
(and dev's are also not to be pinged for support)
vocal shard
So when is IL2CPP coming in
stray vortex
I got confused. Sorry my bad. Ill just check through the menus or hope for some patch
ruby needle
i belive you'll have to wait for a patch, yeah 
twilit fiber
Does oculus work for a windows 10 laptop
rigid crescent
(maybe you could tell us your specs so we'd have a better idea of what you're working with)
No
stray vortex
Also i didnt mean to annoy you guys, i just thought my question was kinda important and thought you guys would know whats wrong
ruby needle
Depends.
If it's your only option and you'll mainly want to talk with people and sozialise, then it can work out
You'll definitely miss out on some of the PC asset's and exclusive part's tho
Many did
twilit fiber
I can get a rift but need a computer and those are super expensive and thereβs certain things they need to have making it more expensive
rigid crescent
I'd get a PCVR just for vRChat, but not a Quest for just VRChat
twilit fiber
Geuss Iβll get a quest
stray vortex
Well i tried on 2 different vive controller sets and they didnt work. Swapped out the controller and mix and matched
rigid crescent
They create them. You won't see them at all on the Quest though π
stray vortex
But that did no work whatsoever, andi have no idea what happened with vrc. Was on vacation, then when i came back 2 days later vrc seems broken :(
twilit fiber
What pc do you have @rigid crescent
rigid crescent
You won't see a lot of things, the Quest runs on a different version of VRChat where a lot of things you see on Desktop or PCVR aren't visible, including some models. They instead appear as floating robots
ruby needle
for now
rigid crescent
I've got a 2070S for my GPU and an i7-7700 for my CPU
twilit fiber
For now?
ruby needle
well, nobody knows what exactly they have in plan as a robot alternative
you'll not get the exact PC versions
but there might be better alternatives to the robot's, like low poly "scanned" representations or something in the furture.
Who knows what they come up with.
twilit fiber
And when will this come
stray vortex
I dont reccomend quest. Unless you have special cord
twilit fiber
Exactly
rigid crescent
It's not even planned, it's simply an idea
twilit fiber
I wish it was planned
ruby needle
Literally unknown, it's a thing they wanto to look into eventually. But nothing specified at all.
Priority is definitely elsewhere for now
twilit fiber
I just wish quest didnβt have a cpu of a smartphone in it
rigid crescent
It kinda has to doesn't it?
twilit fiber
Feel like they could do better
rigid crescent
If they could I promise you'd be paying an arm and a leg for it lol
twilit fiber
I already have to if I want a pc
rigid crescent
Just save your money and work your way there.
meager solstice
the technology just isnt that advanced yet to have a 2080 quest version
rigid crescent
you're probably not even getting a 1060 quest version lol
meager solstice
1 it would be to bulky, 2 even if they compacted it some how, it would still be to hot
and it would consume alot of power
twilit fiber
Sad thing is I can afford an oculus
But not a pc
And I was thinking about the quest but the limitations on it just kinda destroy my confidence on buying it
spring pond
A PC is well worth the money - so many things to do
twilit fiber
Thanks
Lol
Can one of you guys tell me how much you payed for your pc
I need a general idea
rigid crescent
It'll probably vary greatly
Mine was something like 1k at this point but i just bought a new GPU
spring pond
Unfortunately you get what you pay for, as a general rule. You can probably get away with under $1000, but that doesnβt include the VR setup
rigid crescent
it all depends on what kind of graphics card yo uwant