#vrchat-general-2

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vale wave
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Stop crashing ppl aly

glad bolt
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🤔

vale wave
glad bolt
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Over my pretzeled FBT body

pseudo basalt
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I went from "aww they stop talking to me when they hear my voice" to "people actually like my voice anyway"

glad bolt
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That's good. :)

pseudo basalt
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most people don't expect you're an anime girl irl

glad bolt
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wait, anime is real???

vale wave
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Yeah its weird right?

lunar cedar
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that's.... lucky

vale wave
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Imagen meeting up and actually an anime girl shows up

lunar cedar
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Where do I get transformed into an anime bunnygirl?

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Is that right after catgirls by Elon Musk are ready?

pseudo basalt
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You can identify as one but if you don't look the part, people won't accept it EXSGT

vale wave
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I cant date anime girls tho

lunar cedar
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I mean, all but the boring company seems to have panned out pretty well

pseudo basalt
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1 too many dimensions

vocal shard
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The new Cats movie was the result of Elon's research

lunar cedar
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There's plenty of flatsats in the sky ruining astronomers vision, but hey I'd rather have internet and space astronomy than ground amateur astronomy.

pseudo basalt
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It's propaganda as Elon hoards all the successful catgirls for his harem

lunar cedar
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Maybe he can electric drive catgirls into our brains from space satellites

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The images look.... like not what I hoped catgirls IRL would look like

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at least they only have one pair of ears

vale wave
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I think everyone will be terrifies

rough pulsar
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They're not the catgirls you want, but they are the ones you deserve 😏

glad bolt
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O-Oh.

lunar cedar
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But I like my biologically inconsistent animal girls

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I guess I'll have to hope for full dive instead. Then I'll just keep playing vrchat as the avatars I use now.

faint skiff
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@glad bolt The hate for the wolfboy avatars comes from them either being visually obnoxious, or more often, just really badly made with like 60 meshes and 80 materials, etc.

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If someone stops talking to you because you have a male voice though, then their intentions clearly weren't to socialise with you in the first place... no loss there.

hollow sluice
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Wolf boys look nice. I like their design quite a lot. But they all look the same and eventually it gets bering. Its like a song you listen to so much you start hating it

glad bolt
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That's fair, I suppose.

faint skiff
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I liked Filn's avatars, but not most of the emo-tattoo wolfboys around.

hollow sluice
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Ahh filn

glad bolt
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I liked Little Mouse's for the ability to purchase and download. If I could customise Loup from Filn's collection, I would've preferred to do so.

hollow sluice
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I still have his mmds before he took em down

faint skiff
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They were clearly female with the boobs removed though as the chest shading gave the illusion of cleavage still, lol.

hollow sluice
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Well filns avatars were free to download untill little mouse started selling her edits of them

glad bolt
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Wow, really?

hollow sluice
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Yeah

glad bolt
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God, that sucks. :(

faint skiff
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It was a big point of contention and kicked off some major drama.

hollow sluice
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But yeah I still have the files before he took them downvrcAevSip

glad bolt
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Oh, poor Filn. :(

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Lucky, Red

hollow sluice
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Since he wanted credit for his work but his work was kitbashed in the first place

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So mouse refused and so on and so on

glad bolt
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Ah, so basically what happens a lot with other made/downloadable avatars.

hollow sluice
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Yeah

glad bolt
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Dunno why it's so hard to just admit they didn't make it and respect the author's rules.

hollow sluice
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Thats not how that works

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Mouse used filns assets and filn used tda and other stuff. Those used others assets and eventually one avatar would have like40 authors

lunar cedar
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Sadly TDA base has a "no additional restrictions" clause

hollow sluice
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Theres no pointto it

lunar cedar
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So it's not up to filn if people do that and any attempt to restrict is nullified by the original license

glad bolt
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Wow, there's an even farther origin to them?

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Huh. TIL something new.

hollow sluice
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What upsets me tho is that mouse is selling a simple recolor of filns model for 5€

lunar cedar
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However, other rules like "Do not claim as your own" would still apply

glad bolt
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Right, right.

lunar cedar
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Then there's also the fact that it's a CC-BY_NC license, so you can't sell that shit

hollow sluice
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Its nore about respect to the other sutors than the license

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Like its just a dick move to recolor someones work and start selling it

glad bolt
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So, Mouse would/should be in trouble for that?

hollow sluice
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Thats very little effort

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Noone cares and none wants to start drama again so no

glad bolt
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Mm, I see.

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Well, thank you for that history lesson. :o

hollow sluice
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Also vrchat as a whole with its user made content is a very gray area so we dont get vrchat in trouble

lunar cedar
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Pretty sure anyone could report them for that, even anonymously. It's not like it's a hard case to judge, they're breaking a pretty clear license by selling it.

faint skiff
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@hollow sluice There's a difference between using modified, publicly downloadable content for personal use, and actually selling it. The big red mark there is on the selling it side.

hollow sluice
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I know that

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Thats what I said

odd lava
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Selling it is straight up illegal.

shell canyon
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All for a quick buck. Man I hate money in general. Makes people do some craaaaazy things.

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Anywho, hope everyone is having a good week

glad bolt
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"Money is the root of all evil", or as I suppose that phrase goes.

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Yeah, likewise, Killa

shell canyon
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:3 tyty. I graduate with my bachelor's in about a month and a half for game design for what I've wanted to do since I was 7 years old.

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So I'm a bit on cloud nine atm

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Feels like I'm dreaming

glad bolt
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Oh, congrats!!

hollow sluice
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When i charge for kitbashes I charge for the work I put in to it. Not for the assets. But comissions and just selling a base is different

shell canyon
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❤️

glad bolt
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Hope your career from graduation onwards is better than you expected. :)

earnest shuttle
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When theres a real version of the nerv gear would VRChat disable the Logout button and kill you if you die? I just ask 4 a friend

hollow sluice
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Yes

earnest shuttle
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Yay

hollow sluice
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Because nerv gear will probably not be a thing lol

earnest shuttle
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Fck

lunar cedar
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If you use a base that has that "_NC" (assuming it's a creative commons license), then you can't commercialize the use of it under any circumstances

hearty marsh
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Oculus rift CV2 gonna prevent you taking off the headset until you merge your Oculus account with your Facebook

shell canyon
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vrcThinking Yeah me too, it's a bit uncertain at the moment but I at least know what I'm shooting for. Actually may end up doing physical security for a minute until I can make game design my fulltime thing.

glad bolt
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I'm actually really sorry we got this discussion about creative commons and non-commercial attributes going

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Well, either way, Killa, super happy for ya!

lunar cedar
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How come? It's a big issue in vrchat. We can discuss it, let's just avoid calling out anyone.

glad bolt
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For fear of it actually getting out of hand like most discussions. :(

shell canyon
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Kind of comes with the territory and all that

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An inherent risk, but as long as the community and it's people understand why they are here and what they stand for, I don't see why insightful discussion would be... a bad thing?

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Leads to meaningful feedback in most cases.

glad bolt
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Ah, now I don't usually see you in #general-media, so I'm not sure if you know how most (what usually starts out as civil) discussions go. ^^"

lunar cedar
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I write software, so I'm use to all the license nonsense. Slightly different landscape, but similar issue can happen and I didn't understand all the nuances of GPL code when I first started. It's understandable for any kind of creator dealing with licenses.

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It's just the last thing you want to do when you find you're accidentally breaking a license is to double down on your mistake. That's how you get sued :<

glad bolt
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I've always been scared about licenses and try to avoid price tags or things completely out of my jurisdiction.

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Like a whole walking on eggshells type of thing

lunar cedar
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Yea, I hate it too. I just slap MIT on everything I write so anyone using my code doesn't have to think twice about it. Not some 15 page legal doc like some projects. That shit is scary.

glad bolt
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Gosh, it just sounds scary. :(

covert blade
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lurks

glad bolt
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boops

lunar cedar
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MIT is basically two clauses. paraphrasing here
I made this, do whatever the fuck you want. and
I'm not responsible if this fucks up something.

covert blade
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>.<

glad bolt
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Ahh, so it's like a safety net of sorts?

lunar cedar
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Yep, and the first clause is to prevent thieves

glad bolt
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Okay, that makes sense.

lunar cedar
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There's an even simpler one I recently found out about that's literally called the DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE

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but idk, that just seems a little to much

glad bolt
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Wow, that's hilariously unexpected

rough pulsar
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Well, the WTFPL is basically committing to public domain

glad bolt
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Just with more colourful phrasing?

lunar cedar
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ofc lol

hollow sluice
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I want my own uwu license. Everyone who wants to use my code has to have uwu in the name of their program

glad bolt
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Omg, that's awesome

nocturne yew
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how do I turn on my vr controllers?

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like, I'm trying to turn on Steam VR but it says by controllers aren't connected

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although the white led on both of them is turned on? vrcThinking

willow kiln
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They should be green, if you're using the Vive you have to press the button under the touchpad

nocturne yew
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I use Oculus Rift S

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I just went through pairing up again instead.. boh..

molten gale
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Well steamvr and oculus are a but tricky to get to work togerher

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Try replugging the headset idk

nocturne yew
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omg lol I tried to disable holographic locomotion

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moving with the stick while standing up is hell

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I felt like falling down ahah, I had to re-enable it!

faint skiff
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You get used to it eventually

hollow sluice
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its better to get used to it

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since its the more immersive way of moving

nocturne yew
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😮

vocal shard
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Yoda and Skywalker kiss in the new movie

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Like mouth to mouth you heard it here first

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A good kisser you are

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@nocturne yew you got the headset all updated right?

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Out of the factory it's really really bad with that stuff

modern oar
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Noice

nocturne yew
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@vocal shard sì, all updated!

quaint token
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Hey, are video players playing for you people ingame?

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:'(

stuck meadow
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Hi

tacit sage
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hi @stuck meadow

severe shell
neon kayak
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ok wtf

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I have this stupid message saying i was banned for 20 min by team 50g after momentarily entering a new lobby

covert blade
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Just restart your game

neon kayak
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i did, its still there

covert blade
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Oh actually that looks more like a shader...

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Change avatars

neon kayak
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hmm wait youre right. It prob is the avatar

covert blade
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Because that's not how VRChat displays messages

neon kayak
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i know it wasnt official

molten gale
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Yeah thats just an image box

light pivot
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lol, that's real baby's first shader material

neon kayak
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shit its a crasher

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i cant change

covert blade
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Uhh

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I'd remove that if I were you. The link that is

glad bolt
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Left CTRL + \

light pivot
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try hitting ctrl \

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sets you to a default avatar

covert blade
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Depending on how fast it crashes that might not work

glad bolt
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Worth a shot, I hope, though

covert blade
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Yeah

glad bolt
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Either that, or attempt to go home?

covert blade
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You spawn at home

neon kayak
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haha i love you, ctlr + \ worked

glad bolt
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Wahoo!

neon kayak
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im all good now

covert blade
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Oh nice

neon kayak
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wow that was some bs

covert blade
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That's why ya gotta be careful with switching avatars vrcAevSip

molten gale
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if that wouldnt have worked, manual cache clear

glad bolt
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Now, uh, bump those safety settings way up

neon kayak
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ive had that one for awhile though been using it all week

vocal shard
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just got my rift s how do i take pics

molten gale
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Sasha that might have been a forced switch

covert blade
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@glad bolt That wont do anything

glad bolt
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Cripes

covert blade
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He had the avatar himself

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Safety settings don't work against yourself

glad bolt
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It's gotten this bad lately, huh?

covert blade
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That's why you should be careful with what you clone vrcAevSip

molten gale
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Meanwhile I am mostly in publics

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Never get shit done to me

glad bolt
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I just use whatever I upload, ultimate safety

molten gale
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^

covert blade
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True

glad bolt
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Heck that noise, lol

faint skiff
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Probably the 8th person or so in the last few days?

covert blade
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Though I do wonder how people manage to clone those avatars without the ones wearing it for people to clone it triggering that effect themselves

glad bolt
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Jesus

covert blade
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I dunno if that was proper English but I hope ya know what I'm on about

glad bolt
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English is a hard language, no worries

molten gale
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Sasha

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Join animation that only triggers when you enter the world as that avatar maybe

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If thats even possible

covert blade
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Not really sure, though I might know how

neon kayak
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the avatar i had that broke was made by a friend, those people at 50g are doing some major bs hacks

covert blade
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Can you activate gestures while T-posing for full body calibration?

light pivot
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or yknow, updating the avatar after people clone it

covert blade
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Because if you can change gestures then there is a way

vocal shard
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So with udon will we be able to compile games into it like in that tech demo

light pivot
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like in what tech demo?

faint skiff
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@neon kayak What's your in game name?

molten gale
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Laughs in personal avatar

neon kayak
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Dustin-the-wind

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@faint skiff

twin fractal
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T pose gang

molten gale
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Yes

faint skiff
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Not the same avatar as the other day then, if anyone was wondering.

covert blade
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Because one thing I did notice that on spawn effects don't activate in T-pose

molten gale
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They do

covert blade
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I had an avatar that didnt

light pivot
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@vocal shard I can probably answer your question if you tell me what you mean by 'that tech demo'

molten gale
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Most ppeps with on join fx have fbt

covert blade
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So they could have something on idle that they can toggle off via gestures and do that during calibration

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Maybe

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I dunno how else people survive their own crashers with on-spawn stuff

molten gale
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Clients

faint skiff
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Possibly only fires outwards or something maybe?

molten gale
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Some clients disable your own avatar afaik

faint skiff
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Or that

covert blade
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Ah

molten gale
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ggg

covert blade
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So a combination of malicious things

molten gale
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gtg slshsn

crystal fossil
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Goofballs. There are animations that can run globally but not locally.

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xP

rigid crescent
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Dude imagine being banned as a Quest user

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You're pretty much screwed

patent maple
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hi! I'm new

broken plover
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Hi new I'm nico

patent maple
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I meant I'm new to this server

broken plover
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ik. Its a joke

rigid crescent
patent maple
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you guys wanna meet up?

ruby needle
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but it isn't even weekend yet

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gotta do the only true meetup cirBaka

rigid crescent
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the weekend drinking ones? vrcSunglasses

twin fractal
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Thursday is close enough vrcSoon

ruby needle
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No drug parties cirNo @rigid crescent

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I mean the community meetup cirREE

snow wadi
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Hmmm?

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Paulie coming to meetup?

ruby needle
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i was there last wekend

void blade
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hi i dont know what happened but now i have updated my oculus with the facebook update, all games work fine included home, but when i launch vrchat i will go to 10 fps

snow wadi
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Oh yeah I wasn't on that evening because a friend was in need of emotional support.

void blade
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somesone have the same issue?

faint skiff
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Yikes

rigid crescent
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we got a front-pager on the loose

umbral reef
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Im tempted to click the link but at the same time- If its ping worthy 🤔

rigid crescent
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its just butts

ruby needle
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it is indeed just butts

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but thats still inapropriate

rigid crescent
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fuckin frontpagers man smh

umbral reef
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So it was a VRC 2k18 streamer gif :^)?>

rigid crescent
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🥁

bitter bone
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any news on VRC 2018, out of curiosity?

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Usually I have a friend I ask this question but he sleeps during the day and plays late at night xD

solar sandal
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Hello

nocturne yew
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@broken plover Nicooo!
my cousin is here!

tough girder
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anyone having issues connection to vrcahat

nocturne yew
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@tough girder I logged off moments ago, went fine for me so far

covert blade
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@crystal fossil Ello

grim smelt
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 7134 users in VRChat currently

stark stone
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imma 'ead in

covert blade
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@grim smelt There's a channel down at #bottalk that you can use

livid lintel
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Hey so you know like the activateable abilities in vr chat

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i dont know what theyre called. but mine dont stay out. like i holf down the button and it just flickers in and out of reality

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for example i have an avitar with a sword but when u press down the grab button on my oculus the sword gets pulled ouyt then dissappears and flickers with that pattern

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pls help

covert blade
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"avitar"

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"Abilities" are basically just gestures with fancy animations

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They're used the same way for every avatar.

livid lintel
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ok ill look at those

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also does anyone know how to paste links into vrchat(for like video screens

rancid vessel
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Have you tried clicking on the URL bar, and then using CTRL V on it? 🙂

covert blade
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In VR tho?

inner cape
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you can use the keyboard while in vr

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for noving, muting, and copy pasting

covert blade
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@crystal fossil Alright am gonna go to bed now, make sure to @­Mention me when you're back.
While I do appreciate people approaching me and being interested, I prefer if they would also talk to me first 🙃
It's fine in this case but I'm still curious about it

vocal shard
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hi

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..

velvet totem
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o/

vocal shard
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@light pivot late reply cause I was working but on that medium page it shows they ported some open source game to be run on vrc on an arcade cabinate

lunar cedar
vocal shard
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UwU

paper cloak
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all of those were claimed already weren't they?

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they never had an accept button for me haha

vocal shard
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They probably got grabbed pretty quick

cyan kernel
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anyone wanna hang with me later?

paper cloak
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I mean they were greyed out when the message appeared

steady tree
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looking for elon musk avi

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anyone know where i can find the musk man

slate verge
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one of the meme avatar worlds

thorn beacon
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I know this is just the general chat but has anyone had issues with vrchat today?

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i keep getting very strange loading patterns where it'll load me in but then the screen will go black

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It also loads me in random locations in maps keeps me there, blacks the screen out then makes a buzzing noise

faint skiff
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Nope, it's been fine here.

thorn beacon
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heck, i am so frustrated. I just wanted to play ;-;

steady tree
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i need zuckerberg avatar

slate verge
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everything seems fine for me, aside from some lags in my visor

light pivot
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@vocal shard ah that one, yeah that's possible to do granted it's a fair amount of work

vocal shard
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@thorn beacon Google speedtest

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And hit run speed test or whatever it is

thorn beacon
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Oh i know my internet is poo, lol, I managed to fix it by getting lucky on a load, finally being able to nav the menus, and then clearing the cache @vocal shard

steep laurel
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Hey, anyone know any good vive tracker belts

steady tree
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which headset do yall have?

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looking at rift s

steady tree
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any good?\

meager solstice
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I bought those @rigid crescent

rigid crescent
meager solstice
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@steady tree im getting the valve index, upgrading from my oculus rift

indigo fern
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Nice link

steady tree
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i wanted the og vive but its discontinued

vocal shard
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Yeah, the vive was getting outdated in some aspects. I upgraded to a Rift S

glad bolt
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I want to get the Trackstrap/Trackbelt+ that gives an additional 8 hours in FBT.

vocal shard
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guys, anyone know why my vive trackers arent showing up even though they are connected? please @ if possible

wary hollow
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@vocal shard showing where?

vocal shard
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SteamVR isn't picking up or displaying that my trackers are connected. My trackers would light up green but SteamVR doesn't pick up on that

wary hollow
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Everything paired correctly?
If so try re pair
And do they work in game?
Take a look at manage vive trackers

molten gale
digital pumice
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Anyone know the canadian forces in vr chat

vale wave
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the dutch people will take over VRC

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mark my words.

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Yes

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dutch weebs

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no , we are preparing to take over

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once we have taken over, we will force everyone to eat stroopwafels

ember swallow
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BOW

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HOI

vocal shard
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tfw someone starts using laggy avatars
oof

covert blade
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So all the time?

vocal shard
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All the time?
i'm glad i'm not that unlucky

rough pulsar
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@vale wave Can't force us to eat stroopwafels if we already want to eat them

vale wave
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@rough pulsar Good, we have taken control already ;P

faint skiff
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But why would you not want to eat stroopwafels?

broken plover
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whats a stroopwafel

rough pulsar
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If they're the ones from Iceland (the store, not the country). Those are horrid

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They're absolutely lovely is what they are.

faint skiff
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Daelmans are the ones I see most the time over here.

broken plover
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oh those! Theyre so good. I think theyre just called waffles here in germany (correct me if I'm wrong. I'm looking at you sasha)

covert blade
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@vocal shard every public lobby and even F+ I've been in with a decent amount of people has at least one vrcPerfVeryPoor mostly due to lack of simple optimization

rough pulsar
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Kanjers are okay, but freshly made ones are obvs the best.

vocal shard
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Luckily i don't have see that much, but when i see it, it's very obnoxious. Most of the laggy avatars that i see are e-boy avatars with crazy effects that sometimes crashes my game. lol

covert blade
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Gotta love those

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Not that it lags me often but I see it very frequently and it's a shake-my-head moment everytime

umbral reef
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What about frikandel broodjes gallium

broken plover
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whats broodjes

umbral reef
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Google the food

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If your a Dutch teen you eat that and drink cheap knockoff energy drinks

broken plover
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wait they sell those in small at the discounter near my school. Theyre just called "würstchen snack" which translates to sausage snack

umbral reef
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Is it with kurry inside it?
If so that's the one

broken plover
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no it just has ketchup and the yellow not-ketchup thing I forgot the name

umbral reef
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And they need frikkandel not just any wurst

faint skiff
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An avatar I had favorited is showing as no-longer available and it's driving me mad trying to figure out what it was.

covert blade
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I know that feel

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Have that with a world rn

faint skiff
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I had 3 avatars with questionable content (the cum-zone player one, one of the busty dragon girl ones and one of the Blazikin ones) and they're all still there, so I legitimately have no idea which one was removed.

vocal shard
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busty dragon girl? kobayashi? lol

faint skiff
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No, it was one of the colourful ones from the dragon girl world or whatever it's called. It was favorited from ages ago as a joke to wind someone up. One of these - https://i.imgur.com/LNbRxwv.png

umbral reef
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Can be the creator got clapped for something else and the avatars got removed because of that or that the person just didn't want them out there anymore

faint skiff
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Possibly. Either deleted, privated, world deleted, uploader banned, etc. But I don't know which avatar it was so I can't even hazard a guess.

desert stratus
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ahhh udon is in open beta 💟

north axle
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Open Alpha.

covert blade
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Early Access*

pure hemlock
#

Open Alpha Early Access Pre-order DLC

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Come get your Open Alpha feature in your Early Access game right here folks

storm stag
#

So uhh question is there like a way you could register your world in the Winter 2019 in the world list?

tight lodge
#

Quick question, I couldn't find the appropriate channel to post this.
Which version of Unity will be used for the VRChat 2018 move?
Thanks.

pseudo basalt
faint skiff
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Currently 2018.4.14f1 but it may change later.

tight lodge
#

Alright thanks.

faint skiff
#

Actually they still say 13f1 but any version of .4 should technically work.

indigo fern
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they say .14f1 for the udon test

pseudo basalt
#

Don't have access to that channel if you don't react to that message in #open-beta-info

faint skiff
#

Ahh, fair enough then.

ember swallow
#

what hoi meme?

gilded helm
#

I connected my vive trackers

#

but now I can't move

faint skiff
#

You need to calibrate, press both triggers once your feet/waist is in place

gilded helm
#

alright

faint skiff
#

(look down, you need to line up the balls with your avatar, roughly)

gilded helm
#

my feet dont even move

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and I can't walk

covert blade
ember swallow
#

oh

gilded helm
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doesnt rly

#

one of my goddamn trackers isnt working

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for the hip

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keeps tracking it and losing it

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even if I'm in plain sight

faint skiff
#

I had that issue. How are your receivers positioned?

gilded helm
#

corners of my room

faint skiff
#

Not the base stations, the receivers

gilded helm
#

oh fuck

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yeah one is in the back of my pc

faint skiff
#

Yeah, that's a bad place to put it

gilded helm
#

got nowhere else to put it tbh

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might need a usb hub

faint skiff
#

They come with extension cables

gilded helm
#

ohh

faint skiff
#

For specifically this reason 😛

gilded helm
#

i thgought they were charging cables only

faint skiff
#

Nope, it should have multiple leads but also keep them at least 3cm apart from each other else it'll still malfunction.

gilded helm
#

do you need your hip though in order to move feet?

faint skiff
#

Yes

gilded helm
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I was thinking cuz my feet weren't moving ingame

faint skiff
#

You can either use JUST the hip, or the hip and both feet, no other combination.

gilded helm
#

Wish that there were support for more trackers and easier ways to put them on your body

faint skiff
#

Kinnect 1/2, Vive Trackers, Nolo... not sure what other trackers exist that could be supported?

gilded helm
#

No like you can only have 3 vive trackers in vrchat

faint skiff
#

Ah, that's probably because of bandwidth as much as anything else, as reverse IK still has to be calculated and all your tracked limb locations still have to be sent to everyone else in the room.

gilded helm
#

In other words maybe in 2025

weary parrot
#

Someone is “banning” randoms in VRchat with a client that closes and crashes your game.

gilded helm
#

Record them and report

weary parrot
#

Once logged back on, it says you’ve been banned for 30 minutes and to join their Discord

gilded helm
#

Nah

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Sounds like bullshit

weary parrot
#

Want a picture?

gilded helm
#

Give me the pic

rigid crescent
#

That was a thing a long time ago but relaunching fixed it.

desert stratus
#

yeah literally just relaunch the game lol

vocal shard
#

@weary parrot yeah it's known. The team is trying to work on it

desert stratus
#

its a common client trick

weary parrot
#

Thanks. Literally everyone in their discord is losing their minds

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I did relaunch the game. It forced everyone into the same avatar

desert stratus
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when u relaunch, spam or hold down ctrl+\

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make sure urkeyboard is set to english

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Itll set u to a default avatar

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@weary parrot then youll be okay*

rigid crescent
#

Yeah the ban message is a fake one, it's just a disconnect message.

gilded helm
#

Yeah literally banning someone sounds very improbable

twin fractal
#

Yikes

ember swallow
gilded helm
#

And even if you could exploit in order to ban others, it'd probably never be leaked

ember swallow
#

dsddsdsdsdsdsdsdsd

gilded helm
#

Yikers

ember swallow
#

what what what

#

what what

#

what

mighty nest
#

Que

weary parrot
#

@desert stratus It didn’t work. Any other way to get the default avatar?

desert stratus
#

clear ur cache manually

ember swallow
#

@gilded helm MO!

serene plover
#

im not going to be doing anything else with vrchat. once that "udon" thing gets released to the live version of vrchat, EVERYTHING is going to break. and im not having it! im not going to go through all of my worlds and redoing everything that was a hassle to make in the first place

slender barn
#

@gilded helm Can confirm it's real. Never seen anything like it. Just got a animation that took up my screen saying I got a 30 minute ban then I crashed. Thinking nothing of it I logged back in to a private world and the same screen came up and crashed me.

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How is that even possible?

faint skiff
#

@serene plover Udon runs separately, you just continue to use SDK2

slender barn
#

Ah, I see. Somehow they changed my avatar for me into one that keeps crashing myself.

pure hemlock
#

Jeez so many people getting force changed...

slender barn
#

I never knew it was possible, honestly.

pure hemlock
#

Apparently the hack went viral the last few days because a lot of people are reporting it now

spring pond
#

It's a little concerning that the game can be so badly broken by bad actors 😅

faint skiff
#

It's been around for months, it's just being used heavily now.

slender barn
#

Ah, okay. I was really concerned when I relogged and it was still happening.

warped creek
#

Yes, several days ago first people were reporting someone force changing everyone in Room of the Rain into apple avatar that crashes you. Now we have this.

pure hemlock
#

I'm also seeing a lot of people using a client to force kick people from lobbies for an hour. Has happened to me and my bf a few times and this one chill dude last night did it to a few annoying kids in the lobby

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I wasn't entirely upset about that last one though

slender barn
#

I wonder if they can force change you even with safety settings on. I have my shield level always set to none.

spring pond
#

I think that's just having 'master' rights or whatever in a world

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And kicking (vote or otherwise) blocks you from joining that world for an hour

umbral reef
#

Ironically this thing has been in the game for ages just never harshly abused

pure hemlock
#

No you can't kick players without a vote in publics worlds. These hackers can just kick anyone without a vote.

spring pond
#

Right, but the hack is just getting 'mod' rights in a public world, right?

pure hemlock
#

There is no such thing as mod rights in public world's

spring pond
#

So it's using actual game functionality, just getting it when it shouldn't be possible

slender barn
#

Question, anyway to reset my default avatar? I can't login anymore.

pure hemlock
#

No one can kick in publics without a vote except vrchat admins

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And the hackers

warped creek
#

I don't think anyone should be able to force change someone elses avatar, maybe aside from VRChat Team.

faint skiff
#

Basically the client relies on other clients to tell you if you've been locked apparently, so all the modded client does is tell you you've bee kicked and you're kicked, which is hilarious.

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*kicked not locked

pure hemlock
#

The fact that you can even force change other players baffles me. I'm really curious what they are exploiting to do that

snow wadi
#

Since VRChat lacks any form of security client side, anything is possible at this point.

spring pond
#

Yeah, I assume most of the stuff is just abusing functionality that already exists. Also, that sounds janky for kicking 😱

molten gale
#

Photon I think

slender barn
#

One of those things I would think was made up until it happened to me. lol

pure hemlock
#

" hey dude you've been kicked" "oh okay"

spring pond
#

Trust people to give plenty of reason for semi-invasive security processes that people hate

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Exhibit A: this mess

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Or I suppose more accurately, trust people to exploit other people's trust

faint skiff
#

Working in IT and security, rule one is basically NEVER TRUST THE CLIENT.

desert stratus
#

@serene plover what enverex said, you can just. Not update your sdk

#

udon is actially good unlike dogshit triggers anyway

pure hemlock
#

Is udon actually developed enough to build anything... Good? Outside the lack of synced variables anyways

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Or is it just a toy in its current state?

desert stratus
#

i mean it looks like it is though there are some things that are kinda yikes

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according to my friend you cant ddo basic arithmetic in udon, you have to call math problems as a function rather than as an instruction

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which dooesnt make any sense but

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its undeniable that its better than just having triggers and nothing else

faint skiff
#

Also no chairs, kek

pure hemlock
#

Oof

spring pond
#

Stupid chairs don't like my feet trackers anyways

#

Good riddance 👀

pure hemlock
#

I'm excited for it but I don't want to dig into it too early and get frustrated with bugs and lack of features

faint skiff
#

Well it is still alpha at the moment.

pure hemlock
#

Yah I know. Im probably going to wait until it's in a beta state at least

#

Just curious what it can do now since all I've seen are spinning blocks and clocks

broken plover
#

someone also made those lights from a christmas tree that activate after each other and deactivate when the next one activates

dense monolith
#

The oculus quest has hand tracking...?

fathom vector
#

Soon

#

Its planned

dense monolith
#

I heard they are most hated in vrchat lol

fathom vector
#

I believe it. They cant see most avatars

desert stratus
#

imagine murder vrchat but if it were actually good

#

thats what i want udon to do. If it can make murder good, it has succeeded

#

has someonealready contacted the dudebro who made murder and asked if theyre working on murder 4 yet?

fathom vector
#

I got a rift S because of that, didnt want to spend $400 plus another 50 on a proprietary cord thats still in beta

pure hemlock
#

I just want to make a Zelda style dungeon with a boss without some hacky animation state machine thing I don't even know how it works and I don't want lol

desert stratus
#

i have an idea for dungeon shit

dense monolith
#

Rift s..?

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Someone told me that if u have a pc and u connect it it works perfectly

faint skiff
#

You need a high spec pc and it's not quite perfect but it should work well enough.

fathom vector
#

My friend either cant hear or cant speak with the cable

faint skiff
#

I'm not sure the Mic works yet, that was supposed to be added in an update, audio should work, needs to make sure he has the right audio device selected.

vocal shard
#

Yeah the quest is known for the mic not always working through oculus link yet

molten gale
#

No

broken plover
#

hes busy eating udon noodles

molten gale
#

Magical world creation noodles

deep nest
#

does anyone know a elmo skin??

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that i can use

molten gale
#

Its a status

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The status is just "Playing"

#

yes

nimble linden
#

are people using modded clients to change everybody into a certain avatar now? is this new?

#

just happened to me twice

lilac swan
#

It's relatively easy set up triggers in worlds to change everyone's avatars. Unless you're 100% it's not a cheeky world creator, then that might be the case.

mighty escarp
#

hqppened in riom of rain to me a week or two ago

faint skiff
#

It's happening in games of Warewolf, a well established map.

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@nimble linden New, no, it's been happening for months. New on this scale? Yes, as of yesterday.

rigid crescent
#

Yeah before it was just "we got swapped into something dumb"

#

This is significantly more malicious

nimble linden
#

its in the room of the rain that it happened

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so maybe its the world

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i have it set up in one of my private worlds

deep nest
#

uhm i found elmo in the corridors but you cant be him ;-;

nimble linden
#

to turn people into my sonic toilet

spring pond
#

Room of the Rain is probably popular with the trolls because instant gratification

rigid crescent
#

It's not the world most likely. Spanish Hub has no reason to do anything malicious and it's happened in other world's as well

deep nest
#

please help ;-;

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i found elmo in the corridors but you cant be him

#

;--------------;

broken plover
#

is it a community labs world and are you still a visitor?

deep nest
#

me?

broken plover
#

yes

deep nest
#

idk how do i check?

broken plover
#

if you open the quick menu you can see yourself at the top and at the bottom of the picture it shows your rank

deep nest
#

quick menu??

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when you press B

broken plover
#

are you in desktop mode or vr? If vr which do you have

deep nest
#

VR

broken plover
#

what headset do you have

deep nest
#

oculas rift s

broken plover
#

I think its the B button then

deep nest
#

alr

broken plover
#

press that and look at the picture at the top. there should be a color around that picture

deep nest
#

nvm its y

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ok

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im a visitor still yes

vocal shard
#

that random avatar switching exploit, yes, it's slowly becoming a problem. i've seen someone in the great pug exploit this issue to change everyone's avatar to a crasher avatar, hell broke loose after that

broken plover
#

Is that world with the avatar a communtiy labs?

deep nest
#

uhm

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i think so? but i can be everyone but big bird and elmo they are invisible

broken plover
#

in the quick menu on the side there is a button with "report world" if theres a science lab glass thing then thats a community labs world

deep nest
#

ok

#

so report there is a glitch?

broken plover
#

no just check if there is the icon or not

deep nest
#

ohhhh

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big AI's avatar corridor?

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thats the name ;-;

broken plover
#

not the name. On the "report world" button is there an icon of a lab glass thing or not?

spring pond
#

Pretty sure that one isn’t

deep nest
#

there is no icon

nimble linden
#

big al's corridor is an old world

deep nest
#

:/

broken plover
#

then its a problem with the world

nimble linden
#

it shouldn't be in comlabs

deep nest
#

REEEEEE i just wanna be elmo

faint skiff
#

Report goes to the admins, you don't want that. If there's an issue with the world, report it to the creator.

vocal shard
deep nest
#

is there another way to be elmo on vrchat?

faint skiff
#

Just find a world that has an Elmo avatar, I'm sure there's probably hundreds.

deep nest
#

i have trieddd

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there is none

#

and iv seen people be elmo before

pure hemlock
#

My boyfriend has a small elmo avatar but it's kind of cancer. spawns hellfire and metal screams and shit

deep nest
#

wth

faint skiff
#

You say "there is none" followed by that you've seen people using them, so clearly there are...

pure hemlock
#

elmo is metal

deep nest
#

yes but none that i can find

twin fractal
#

Hey so I was thinking, couldn't you fix the crashing avatar thing by logging on to Quest version of VRChat? It would force you into the robot avatar and you could easily switch to a safe avatar from there.

faint skiff
#

Well the somewhat critical problem with that idea, is that you need a Quest to do it, lol

pure hemlock
#

Omg

#

This is all a ploy by facebook to force us all to buy quests

twin fractal
#

or a friend with one 😌

pure hemlock
#

By making PC unplayable because of hackers we will have to all buy quests and join the facebook cult

glad bolt
#

That's actually my worst nightmare, no

slender barn
#

@twin fractal The fix is to sign in and spam Ctrl+/ on the keyboard and it switches you to a default avatar

faint skiff
#

Ctrl+\ rather than /

slender barn
#

My bad

#

But yes, that

twin fractal
#

Apparently it doesn't work for everyone, so I just thought up an alternative while slaving away at work lol

slender barn
#

Ah, not a bad idea for Quest owners lol

exotic pulsar
#

I would probably go about it a different way. Make it so when vrchat crashes in general, revert to the default robot avatar

faint skiff
#

See I've had that actually happen, but annoyingly not at any useful times.

#

"Bwong" black screen, now you're a default avatar

deep nest
#

I will pay someone 0 to make me an Elmo character

pure hemlock
#

Why do you want one so bad

twin fractal
#

No

runic vale
#

hello

twin fractal
#

I'm free from work life in 2 hours

deep nest
#

because i can do a elmo voice

twin fractal
#

Hello guy

runic vale
#

sorry but can you tell me

#

how can i open the configuration settings tab

desert stratus
#

Hold shift while the game is opening

runic vale
#

thank you

#

.)

hearty stag
#

Heyo

#

Just joined the server lol

desert stratus
#

welcome

#

did you join for vrchat the game

grim ember
#

Do I just have bad luck, or is there a sudden increase in force-crashers? I've been crashed 5 times now due to other's avatars. (They were intentional, such as firing guns at my character. I have a decent PC too).

hollow sluice
#

well theres that team 50g

desert stratus
#

i havent heard of particle crashers in a ahile

hollow sluice
#

and they are doing shit left and right all the time

desert stratus
#

its probably this team 50pee shit

hollow sluice
#

so it might be them

grim ember
#

I would just disable them but the last two were the purple rank (Trusted User I think)

desert stratus
#

time to tune up safety settings

hollow sluice
#

those are the least trusted people in the game

grim ember
#

I can tell.

desert stratus
#

disable very poor and poor avatars to be safe

hollow sluice
#

trusted just means those people probably know how to make crasher avatars

#

lol

snow wadi
#

That's...alot of staff on tonight.

fading rover
#

is it just me or is vrchat literially dying rn, i cant load avatas,worlds, etc

grim ember
#

Oh wow, yeah. Lots of yellow.

desert stratus
#

theyre probably crunching for udon shit uwu

#

would make sense since it seems like its still hella alpha

snow wadi
#

So Alpha that Alpha itself became Beta.

#

I'll shut up now.

desert stratus
#

ahlufah

#

beytah

#

whats the difuerence

hollow sluice
#

so alpha that alpha itself became a season pass

desert stratus
#

udon battle pass

snow wadi
#

Udon even know what's going to happen on release.

hollow sluice
#

Ubucks

snow wadi
#

Am I part of the cool kids now?

desert stratus
#

you can buy TDAs with them. In an ideal world, you can buy booth models

#

@snow wadi you are always cool kid vrcAevSlap

snow wadi
twin fractal
#

Battle Pass vrcLove

hollow sluice
#

Ubucks are used for wolfboys and particles

snow wadi
#

Udon Pass xD

hollow sluice
#

alright we should stop giving them ideas

snow wadi
#

Too late, pill wrote them all down.

hollow sluice
#

in this day and age they might actually do it

twin fractal
#

Lol

hollow sluice
#

fuck. hes on

#

on no

twin fractal
#

Why so much yellows? Damn

glad bolt
#

Bet they're having a meeting about them bucks

hollow sluice
#

@snow wadi you have the power to influence Ruuubick. Please stop his calamity from happening

glad bolt
#

That's true

snow wadi
#

I can try D:

pure hemlock
#

I just got a recording that's gonna get 3 purple users banned feels gud

hollow sluice
#

you cant guarantee that

pure hemlock
#

They all openly admit to using a modded client and then actively try to crash some 11 year old kid using crashing avatars

desert stratus
#

shh shh

#

get em yin

pure hemlock
#

Are you suggesting VRC doesn't ban people?

hollow sluice
#

I am not suggesting anything

pure hemlock
#

VRC would only enforce the strictest punishment on these people because they have integrity

rigid crescent
#

They don't ban as harshly as they should

#

They admittedly take it easy on some cases because they know this game is like their only lifeline to some people's friends and shit like that

#

Something along those lines.

hollow sluice
#

theres also little point to it since you can just use a new account

rigid crescent
#

But with a video it's pretty much guaranteed ban of some sort. Whether it's a week, a month, or permanent seems to be case by case

#

Eh my Outlook on it is if you ban 100 and 99 come back you made progress

#

Out of a hundred bans though I'm sure less than that come back

hollow sluice
#

thats true

pure hemlock
#

I honestly don't bother reporting people but if I got a video with 3 trusted users I'ma send it. Enjoy the grind back up

hollow sluice
#

ranks dont mean anything though

pure hemlock
#

They really don't but they do to these edgy teenagers

hollow sluice
#

hmm

#

good point lol

pure hemlock
#

I've been sitting in publics for a few hours on desktop while I work trying to get hit by that avatar change hack but all I can find are boring crashers and the regular old client users

#

Hurry up and change my avatar you damn leeches

faint skiff
#

Check Werewolf games, that's where a lot of people said it was happening

#

It seems to have died down now though.

nimble linden
#

and Room of the rain apparently

pure hemlock
#

Must've just been a few dudes earlier jumping from lobby to lobby for a bit

pseudo basalt
#

werewolf and murder seem to be the most common ones based on people complaining

#

and rain room too but that's obvious because it's popular

#

first most active is usually a safe bet

deep nest
#

who wants to get paid?

#

i do

charred flame
#

hey does anyone here know how to create vr avatars because im having trouble creating my first one and would like to see if i could get any to help me so just DM me if you can

rigid crescent
#

Look up Kareeda's guides

charred flame
#

ok

twin fractal
#

Stop

shadow lodge
#

I have died in the VOID 😄

twin fractal
#

Stop

broken plover
#

They dont encourage client use

twin fractal
#

Except it's not. VRChat does not allow clients. Stop spreading bs

broken plover
#

If anyone does that, its the client users. Not the VRChat devs

#

but the client users already broke a rule by modifying the vrchat client

#

Just record and report client users...

#

They will get banned sooner or later anyways

spring pond
#

Tl;dr you are claiming that a lack of action on their part implies permission

broken plover
#

Thats not how rules work tho

twin fractal
#

Tl;dr an idiot

exotic pulsar
#

Heh

broken plover
#

ok he got clapping

spring pond
#

👀

#

Glad I could clear that up

exotic pulsar
#

To be fair, though, would the dev team be apposed to someone modding the client to fix that issue, then sharing the code with them to make it official? It's what Mojang did before Microsoft bought them out

spring pond
#

Oh man, I just realized that’s basically the whole gun argument. ‘The only way to fight a bad person with a client is a good person with a client’

patent maple
#

@everyone I'm about to jump in, does anyone want to meet me?

vocal shard
#

@patent maple Just a heads up for next time, it's usually considered bad discord manners to ping everyone in a large server for non announcements.

Have fun in VRChat AkkoWave

patent maple
#

sorry 😅

vocal shard
#

No worries 02pat

spring pond
#

Good thing most large servers disable it for randos 😛

twin fractal
#

Mans pinging 26+ thousand people like it's nothing vrcLaughing

wraith blade
#

lol

rigid crescent
#

Bruuuh udon looks lit af

spring pond
#

The ping didn't work though. But an attempt was made

#

If it had worked, you'd have noticed a flood of memes 😛

rigid crescent
#

I wanna make something but ive only ever uploaded one world and it was an mmd ri

#

I kinda wish it autokicked you for a day or two if you tried to do it

spring pond
#

Actually, a server this large might be default not allow rando-everyone pings. I know even mods get a warning before pinging 200+ people

#

But if you don't even have the authority, it will just be a dead ping without saying anything 😛

calm dagger
#

Hello everyone

crystal fossil
#

Udon is a actually scary. Not due to complexity, but due to exploitation. Wondering how much will end up removed or if they think we'll be okay with some of these things staying, knowing our "content" Creators.

#

I'll just keep the details mum right now.

#

I guess.

rigid crescent
#

I mean most of the "content" creators doing the cool stuff aren't malicious anyway

#

most of the really, really bad exploits seem to always get found by the right people for the most part

#

like writing data bad

#

like when it comes to your average asshole, they don't know what they're doing anyway, they're just running scripts and calling it a day

crystal fossil
#

Problem comes in when you consider the idea of adding node based editing the likes of Udon to avatars for Avatars 2.0

#

big shrug on that one

#

Also, most of the time, malicious exploits are found and used maliciously until it gets bandaid wiped out of existence.

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Most are found by the people that make some of the most interesting content in order to see how they can make it useful, then someone takes note of those uses and how they can rig it to explode. 😅

exotic pulsar
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I'm genuinely curious how udon can be used maliciously in avatars. As long as each avatar's nodes are only accessable through that controlling client and client session, I don't see how it would be a huge deal

crystal fossil
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lol If you see what Udon can do, imagine that added right onto avatars. Matter of time.

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My understanding is that Udon has a lot of things right now that insta tank perf down to single digit framerates.

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But it's coming anyway, because it has to.

exotic pulsar
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Well, I would hope that if they did port it to avatars they would only have the nodes they need for it

spring pond
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I'm skeptical about the precedent for that kind of thinking 😰

rigid crescent
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If it were ported to avatars i imagine it'd be stripped down. Theyve mentioned wanting "udon for avatars" but that's surely a long way off

spring pond
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I mean, I can't see why you'd need the ability to control another users camera, but it exists vrcAngry

rigid crescent
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you aren't really controller another user's camera

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it's just a shader

nocturne yew
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hey guys

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how's your friday going

spring pond
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I mean, it’s the same difference for me

fading flower
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yes

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it twas the final day of school and i did nothing

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some guy was being a bit rude

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so i pelted a snickers bar at him and yelled at him to eat it

twin fractal
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Wew

nocturne yew
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@fading flower that's the most hardcore thing I've ever heard of, I'm proud of you

fading flower
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"your acting like a twat, your not you when your hungry, eat a snikers" proceed to yeet

rigid crescent
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sounds like a "then everyone clapped" story vrcTrollThinking

twin fractal
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Then Albert Einstein entered the lobby and gave him 3000 VBucks

vocal shard
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Hello

nocturne yew
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lol

vocal shard
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Anyone knows how to get the extra items in a avatar?

nocturne yew
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what

static crow
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anyone using/used a kinect for full body tracking?

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got an issue where my feet in game turn along with my head

twin fractal
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They're not being tracked then

broken plover
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If you didnt click the button with something about foot rotation and head or something like that then its bugged or something

twin fractal
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The only thing that should even remotely affect them are your hips

broken plover
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I sometimes enable it if my kinect is too stupid to track my feet right

static crow
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hmm don't have anything like that turned on

vocal shard
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I know driver4vr has a mode that follows your head direction.

static crow
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and it should track fine it's new idk

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hmm

vocal shard
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What program are you using?

static crow
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driver4vr

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where can i find this option you are talking about

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the mode

vocal shard
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In the calibration page, at the top

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There should be a drop menu that says
Track foot rotation by, head rotation, body and arms position, actual position

static crow
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feet tracking skeleton only

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on default

static crow
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@vocal shard any idea what it should be on?

faint skiff
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Dont you love when world loading doesnt work and it just dumps you at a black screen...

spring pond
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The void welcomes you with open arms

rigid crescent
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oof the blackscreen

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oh also, someone in the #madewithudon tag was talking about how their audio stuff is a lot easier with udon

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so I'd imagine your world will be a lot more organized and easier to set up once you figure it out

faint skiff
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Hopefully...

rigid crescent
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maybe something like just a catchall "ay if you get close to this it make sound"

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willing to be thats a thing

vocal shard
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Is there a way to get into contact with a mod? I think someone falsely reported me

covert blade
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Unless someone bombarded you with blocks and reports to get you to nuisance, false reports don't do anything

rigid crescent
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Were you banned for it?

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Typically false reports are meaningless

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But if you were botted into nuisance or something then that's a different story

vocal shard
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i wasnt banned before, but after two people left i got banned for creating nsfw content. I had 2 nude avatars on my account but they were purely for getting measurement for future avatar making. (Which I have yet to really do)

covert blade
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Nope

vocal shard
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I deleted them but i never pulled them out in public or anywhere near others

covert blade
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Can't upload NSFW content, even private. If you do anyways and got clapped for it then that's on you

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Well were they public?

vocal shard
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no

covert blade
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Hm, and no one else besides you saw it?

vocal shard
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nope

covert blade
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Hm

vocal shard
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i made sure of that

pseudo basalt
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Tell 80% of vrchat that you can't upload nsfw avatars

covert blade
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Then I dunno how they figured it out, but nonetheless you're not allowed to do that either way vrcAevSip

vocal shard
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i deleted them tho

covert blade
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If they use it and I report the avatar I know that there is a 100% chance that they'll get clapped

vocal shard
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so i dunno who to contact

covert blade
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Sure people upload it anyways because people don't care, but one report and their avatar is gone

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Well it's just a temp ban anyways isn't it?

pseudo basalt
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Nobody's gonna rightfully report your private stuff

vocal shard
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yeah to the 27th

covert blade
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Hm

pseudo basalt
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People get banned for nsfw even when not even having nsfw avatars

covert blade
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Like Enverex at one point

pseudo basalt
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seems like the blanket ban reason

covert blade
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"NSFW Avatar in public" for the person that only ever uses his own dragon avatars

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I dunno but if it's just a temp ban that short ya might just wanna wait it out

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By the time you sorted through that with their support it's probably already the 27th

vocal shard
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i guess, its just infuriating

pseudo basalt
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If enough people report you for nsfw i wonder if you get banned without a check

covert blade
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So "nude" in which sense?

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Were they like Barbie doll nude?

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Or explicit?

vocal shard
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yes barbie doll nude, there were not insidey parts

covert blade
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And the bottom had no texture detailing any female organs?

vocal shard
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nope

covert blade
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Because if so I don't really get it

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Because I thought Barbie Doll nude was perfectly fine, especially when not using it for anything that would break the NSFW rule

pseudo basalt
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People get banned for no reason once in a while

vocal shard
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i freaked out, cause i havent been banned before

pseudo basalt
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No real reason at least

vocal shard
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this is my first

covert blade
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I've seen avatars that just barely covered up the bits that were apparently fine too

vocal shard
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i know

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x.x

covert blade
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But the problem is that support will likely not tell you the specifics of why the ban was issued

pseudo basalt
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I think you just got unlucky

covert blade
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Since everything the moderators do is happening behind closed doors

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Mostly for privacy reasons

pseudo basalt
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People can mass report you to get your rank down and there's nothing you can do about it

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I wouldn't be surprised if a nsfw ban can be exploited in a similar way

covert blade
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Though what you could do is take a screenshot of the base models you had uploaded and send it to support and ask if there is anything wrong with it

vocal shard
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i dont have the models anymore

covert blade
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Not even locally?

vocal shard
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i think i might have deleted them

covert blade
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Oh

vocal shard
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yeah

covert blade
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Then it doesnt matter that much I guess

rigid crescent
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You can try doing a ban appeal anyway

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if no one EVER saw the nude models and you're positive of it, it could just be a botted ban

covert blade
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I mean, does Barbie Doll nude = NSFW?

rigid crescent
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If enough people report you for nsfw i wonder if you get banned without a check

as far as this goes, what more than likely happens is that you're reported for NSFW (even if it's a "false" report) and they DO check and, despite never using it where anyone can see, you've got one on your account

pseudo basalt
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that's kinda irrelevant

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if it's nsfw enough or not

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I'd think they have better things to do than check private avatars

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Or maybe there is no way to check if you even use it in public

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so they just assume it's not a false report

rigid crescent
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Yeah that's what I mean. You get enough reports that "oh we should check this out" and they do

covert blade
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If you never used it in front of anyone how would someone be able to ... oh wait

rigid crescent
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Yeah, that's what I was getting at 👌

covert blade
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@vocal shard Do you remember what the avatar thumbnail looked like?

pseudo basalt
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Sasha

covert blade
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Hm?

pseudo basalt
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the avatar doesn't matter

vocal shard
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usually any of my models i upload were of the face

pseudo basalt
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i think the point here is probably a botted ban

covert blade
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Hm

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That sounds very concerning

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Then again, Enverex got hit by that at one point too

rigid crescent
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As of right now though we don't really know if they have an autoban system or if it's all done manually and reporting just flags accounts for checking

pseudo basalt
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I'm sorry but didn't you notice that people literally derank unfairly because of bots

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And other things too

covert blade
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I do

rigid crescent
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Yeah, that's a thing as well, luckily its super easy to spot in the API

pseudo basalt
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It's exploitable as hell

covert blade
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But getting botted into nuisance =/= ban

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I was under the assumption bans are issued manually

pseudo basalt
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You don't know how their system works

rigid crescent
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Well again, if bot-blocking was instaban, we'd see it more often

pseudo basalt
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They might be, they might be not in some cases

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I'd assume they aren't

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But the checking could be arbitrary as well

rigid crescent
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and, again, people would be blowing up streamers with it....and then it'd be fixed lol

pseudo basalt
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Shrug

covert blade
pseudo basalt
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Or one of the devs is just fucking around

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And banning random people for things they didn't do vrcAevSip

rigid crescent
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lol thats doubtful

pseudo basalt
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Then giving them the "you know what you did" ticket response

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(obviously)

rigid crescent
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ban me pls

pseudo basalt
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b&

covert blade
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inb4 1 year ban

rigid crescent
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4 year you mean tanabae

pseudo basalt
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~1 month~

rigid crescent
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No no no, I'd probably a 1 week public ban because I'm a user that plays obsessively

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The more of a no-lifer you are, the less harsh your punishments

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as far as some things go

covert blade
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Interesting

rigid crescent
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They've said it themselves (not as plainly, obviously), and I also know of someone who I reported with video from someone's stream that only got a month long Public Ban despite, yknow....being a crasher

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Like someone I know personally, not just a rando

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and despite that being his second ban

vocal shard
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anyone else here seeing random invite and friends instances pop up on the great pug instance list ingame?
#41867 invite, from a user i dont even know or have on my friends list (Jitae82)
same with #48332 friends from Doublegoose

rigid crescent
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"blah blah blah, we take into account that people are no-lifers and this is the only way they can communicate with their friends but sometimes we have to be more harsh" kind of deal

vocal shard
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never had this issue happen before

covert blade
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Heh

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Dunno Fusl

rigid crescent
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lemme see if i can scour my screenshots for that gem

covert blade
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xD

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Yes please

gilded helm
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with fbt sometimes my controller becomes my foot etc

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is there anyway to fix this w/o restarting everything?

vocal shard
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same with kareedaflix, several friends/invite instances from people i dont know

covert blade
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I think there is a way to unassign trackers as hand controllers

rigid crescent
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Yeah, you go into Track Settings and jsut Disable them. That'll make it so it doesn't assume any one tracker belongs in a certain spot

hollow ingot
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I see private instances as well.

covert blade
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Alright hang on

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Gonna hop into desktop mode to see if I have that too

gilded helm
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tracking settings?

covert blade
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Under Steam VR

gilded helm
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where?

covert blade
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Uh

rigid crescent
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i cant check right now, my headset isnt plugged in so i cant even get to that menu

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right click a tracker maybe?

covert blade
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IIRC you can do it on desktop too

gilded helm
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?

rigid crescent
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yeah just make it nothing

covert blade
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Change "Held in Hand" to something else

rigid crescent
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you should be able to just make it "none" or something like that

covert blade
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Yeah

rigid crescent
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that was the most annoying thing when I got FBT...

gilded helm
covert blade
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Yup

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Pick Disabled

rigid crescent
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yep, now that should never happen again~

covert blade
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dw the trackers will still work ingame but they won't be auto assigned to something it shouldnt be

gilded helm
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still need to restart tho but that sounds better than this shite

covert blade
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Yeah but then ya never have to do that ever again

gilded helm
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ye ive restarted 3 times already

covert blade
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You have that one too?

vocal shard
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yes

covert blade
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The world is empty

vocal shard
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i was there before

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am in murder 2 3943 invite

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the instance was completely empty

covert blade
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Dont see any Murder 2 invite worlds rn

vocal shard
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yeah, the worlds endpoint is down rn

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correction, everything is down right now

covert blade
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Oh no

vocal shard
covert blade
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@rigid crescent

lemme see if i can scour my screenshots for that gem
If ya find it please let me know via a @ mention.
I'll have to mute the server for now

rigid crescent
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yeah im trying to remember who i sent the screenshot to to begin with, it'll be easier that way lol