#vrchat-general-2
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Over my pretzeled FBT body
I went from "aww they stop talking to me when they hear my voice" to "people actually like my voice anyway"
That's good. :)
most people don't expect you're an anime girl irl
wait, anime is real???
Yeah its weird right?
that's.... lucky
Imagen meeting up and actually an anime girl shows up
Where do I get transformed into an anime bunnygirl?
Is that right after catgirls by Elon Musk are ready?
You can identify as one but if you don't look the part, people won't accept it 
I cant date anime girls tho
I mean, all but the boring company seems to have panned out pretty well
1 too many dimensions
The new Cats movie was the result of Elon's research
There's plenty of flatsats in the sky ruining astronomers vision, but hey I'd rather have internet and space astronomy than ground amateur astronomy.
It's propaganda as Elon hoards all the successful catgirls for his harem
Maybe he can electric drive catgirls into our brains from space satellites
The images look.... like not what I hoped catgirls IRL would look like
at least they only have one pair of ears
I think everyone will be terrifies
They're not the catgirls you want, but they are the ones you deserve 😏
O-Oh.
But I like my biologically inconsistent animal girls
I guess I'll have to hope for full dive instead. Then I'll just keep playing vrchat as the avatars I use now.
@glad bolt The hate for the wolfboy avatars comes from them either being visually obnoxious, or more often, just really badly made with like 60 meshes and 80 materials, etc.
If someone stops talking to you because you have a male voice though, then their intentions clearly weren't to socialise with you in the first place... no loss there.
Wolf boys look nice. I like their design quite a lot. But they all look the same and eventually it gets bering. Its like a song you listen to so much you start hating it
That's fair, I suppose.
I liked Filn's avatars, but not most of the emo-tattoo wolfboys around.
Ahh filn
I liked Little Mouse's for the ability to purchase and download. If I could customise Loup from Filn's collection, I would've preferred to do so.
I still have his mmds before he took em down
They were clearly female with the boobs removed though as the chest shading gave the illusion of cleavage still, lol.
Well filns avatars were free to download untill little mouse started selling her edits of them
Wow, really?
Yeah
God, that sucks. :(
It was a big point of contention and kicked off some major drama.
But yeah I still have the files before he took them down
Since he wanted credit for his work but his work was kitbashed in the first place
So mouse refused and so on and so on
Ah, so basically what happens a lot with other made/downloadable avatars.
Yeah
Dunno why it's so hard to just admit they didn't make it and respect the author's rules.
Thats not how that works
Mouse used filns assets and filn used tda and other stuff. Those used others assets and eventually one avatar would have like40 authors
Sadly TDA base has a "no additional restrictions" clause
Theres no pointto it
So it's not up to filn if people do that and any attempt to restrict is nullified by the original license
What upsets me tho is that mouse is selling a simple recolor of filns model for 5€
However, other rules like "Do not claim as your own" would still apply
Right, right.
Then there's also the fact that it's a CC-BY_NC license, so you can't sell that shit
Its nore about respect to the other sutors than the license
Like its just a dick move to recolor someones work and start selling it
So, Mouse would/should be in trouble for that?
Also vrchat as a whole with its user made content is a very gray area so we dont get vrchat in trouble
Pretty sure anyone could report them for that, even anonymously. It's not like it's a hard case to judge, they're breaking a pretty clear license by selling it.
@hollow sluice There's a difference between using modified, publicly downloadable content for personal use, and actually selling it. The big red mark there is on the selling it side.
Selling it is straight up illegal.
All for a quick buck. Man I hate money in general. Makes people do some craaaaazy things.
Anywho, hope everyone is having a good week
"Money is the root of all evil", or as I suppose that phrase goes.
Yeah, likewise, Killa
:3 tyty. I graduate with my bachelor's in about a month and a half for game design for what I've wanted to do since I was 7 years old.
So I'm a bit on cloud nine atm
Feels like I'm dreaming
Oh, congrats!!
When i charge for kitbashes I charge for the work I put in to it. Not for the assets. But comissions and just selling a base is different
❤️
Hope your career from graduation onwards is better than you expected. :)
When theres a real version of the nerv gear would VRChat disable the Logout button and kill you if you die? I just ask 4 a friend
Yes
Yay
Because nerv gear will probably not be a thing lol
Fck
If you use a base that has that "_NC" (assuming it's a creative commons license), then you can't commercialize the use of it under any circumstances
Oculus rift CV2 gonna prevent you taking off the headset until you merge your Oculus account with your Facebook
Yeah me too, it's a bit uncertain at the moment but I at least know what I'm shooting for. Actually may end up doing physical security for a minute until I can make game design my fulltime thing.
I'm actually really sorry we got this discussion about creative commons and non-commercial attributes going
Well, either way, Killa, super happy for ya!
How come? It's a big issue in vrchat. We can discuss it, let's just avoid calling out anyone.
For fear of it actually getting out of hand like most discussions. :(
Kind of comes with the territory and all that
An inherent risk, but as long as the community and it's people understand why they are here and what they stand for, I don't see why insightful discussion would be... a bad thing?
Leads to meaningful feedback in most cases.
Ah, now I don't usually see you in #general-media, so I'm not sure if you know how most (what usually starts out as civil) discussions go. ^^"
I write software, so I'm use to all the license nonsense. Slightly different landscape, but similar issue can happen and I didn't understand all the nuances of GPL code when I first started. It's understandable for any kind of creator dealing with licenses.
It's just the last thing you want to do when you find you're accidentally breaking a license is to double down on your mistake. That's how you get sued :<
I've always been scared about licenses and try to avoid price tags or things completely out of my jurisdiction.
Like a whole walking on eggshells type of thing
Yea, I hate it too. I just slap MIT on everything I write so anyone using my code doesn't have to think twice about it. Not some 15 page legal doc like some projects. That shit is scary.
Gosh, it just sounds scary. :(
lurks
boops
MIT is basically two clauses. paraphrasing here
I made this, do whatever the fuck you want. and
I'm not responsible if this fucks up something.
>.<
Ahh, so it's like a safety net of sorts?
Yep, and the first clause is to prevent thieves
Okay, that makes sense.
There's an even simpler one I recently found out about that's literally called the DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE
but idk, that just seems a little to much
Wow, that's hilariously unexpected
Well, the WTFPL is basically committing to public domain
Just with more colourful phrasing?
I want my own uwu license. Everyone who wants to use my code has to have uwu in the name of their program
Omg, that's awesome
how do I turn on my vr controllers?
like, I'm trying to turn on Steam VR but it says by controllers aren't connected
although the white led on both of them is turned on? 
They should be green, if you're using the Vive you have to press the button under the touchpad
Well steamvr and oculus are a but tricky to get to work togerher
Try replugging the headset idk
omg lol I tried to disable holographic locomotion
moving with the stick while standing up is hell
I felt like falling down ahah, I had to re-enable it!
You get used to it eventually
😮
Yoda and Skywalker kiss in the new movie
Like mouth to mouth you heard it here first
A good kisser you are
@nocturne yew you got the headset all updated right?
Out of the factory it's really really bad with that stuff
Noice
@vocal shard sì, all updated!
Hi
hi @stuck meadow
ok wtf
I have this stupid message saying i was banned for 20 min by team 50g after momentarily entering a new lobby
Just restart your game
i did, its still there
hmm wait youre right. It prob is the avatar
Because that's not how VRChat displays messages
i know it wasnt official
Yeah thats just an image box
lol, that's real baby's first shader material
Left CTRL + \
Depending on how fast it crashes that might not work
Worth a shot, I hope, though
Yeah
Either that, or attempt to go home?
You spawn at home
haha i love you, ctlr + \ worked
Wahoo!
im all good now
Oh nice
wow that was some bs
That's why ya gotta be careful with switching avatars 
if that wouldnt have worked, manual cache clear
Now, uh, bump those safety settings way up
ive had that one for awhile though been using it all week
just got my rift s how do i take pics
Sasha that might have been a forced switch
@glad bolt That wont do anything
Cripes
It's gotten this bad lately, huh?
That's why you should be careful with what you clone 
I just use whatever I upload, ultimate safety
^
True
Heck that noise, lol
Probably the 8th person or so in the last few days?
Though I do wonder how people manage to clone those avatars without the ones wearing it for people to clone it triggering that effect themselves
Jesus
I dunno if that was proper English but I hope ya know what I'm on about
English is a hard language, no worries
Sasha
Join animation that only triggers when you enter the world as that avatar maybe
If thats even possible
Not really sure, though I might know how
the avatar i had that broke was made by a friend, those people at 50g are doing some major bs hacks
Can you activate gestures while T-posing for full body calibration?
or yknow, updating the avatar after people clone it
Because if you can change gestures then there is a way
So with udon will we be able to compile games into it like in that tech demo
like in what tech demo?
@neon kayak What's your in game name?
Laughs in personal avatar
T pose gang
Yes
Not the same avatar as the other day then, if anyone was wondering.
Because one thing I did notice that on spawn effects don't activate in T-pose
They do
I had an avatar that didnt
@vocal shard I can probably answer your question if you tell me what you mean by 'that tech demo'
Most ppeps with on join fx have fbt
So they could have something on idle that they can toggle off via gestures and do that during calibration
Maybe
I dunno how else people survive their own crashers with on-spawn stuff
Clients
Possibly only fires outwards or something maybe?
Some clients disable your own avatar afaik
Or that
Ah
ggg
So a combination of malicious things
gtg slshsn
hi! I'm new
I meant I'm new to this server
ik. Its a joke

you guys wanna meet up?
Thursday is close enough 
hi i dont know what happened but now i have updated my oculus with the facebook update, all games work fine included home, but when i launch vrchat i will go to 10 fps
Oh yeah I wasn't on that evening because a friend was in need of emotional support.
somesone have the same issue?
Yikes
we got a front-pager on the loose
Im tempted to click the link but at the same time- If its ping worthy 🤔
its just butts
fuckin frontpagers man smh
So it was a VRC 2k18 streamer gif :^)?>
🥁
any news on VRC 2018, out of curiosity?
Usually I have a friend I ask this question but he sleeps during the day and plays late at night xD
Hello
@broken plover Nicooo!
my cousin is here!
anyone having issues connection to vrcahat
@tough girder I logged off moments ago, went fine for me so far
@crystal fossil Ello
!online
There are 7134 users in VRChat currently
imma 'ead in
Hey so you know like the activateable abilities in vr chat
i dont know what theyre called. but mine dont stay out. like i holf down the button and it just flickers in and out of reality
for example i have an avitar with a sword but when u press down the grab button on my oculus the sword gets pulled ouyt then dissappears and flickers with that pattern
pls help
"avitar"
@livid lintel https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/controls This might help
"Abilities" are basically just gestures with fancy animations
They're used the same way for every avatar.
ok ill look at those
also does anyone know how to paste links into vrchat(for like video screens
Have you tried clicking on the URL bar, and then using CTRL V on it? 🙂
In VR tho?
@crystal fossil Alright am gonna go to bed now, make sure to @Mention me when you're back.
While I do appreciate people approaching me and being interested, I prefer if they would also talk to me first 🙃
It's fine in this case but I'm still curious about it
o/
@light pivot late reply cause I was working but on that medium page it shows they ported some open source game to be run on vrc on an arcade cabinate

UwU
all of those were claimed already weren't they?
they never had an accept button for me haha
They probably got grabbed pretty quick
anyone wanna hang with me later?
I mean they were greyed out when the message appeared
one of the meme avatar worlds
I know this is just the general chat but has anyone had issues with vrchat today?
i keep getting very strange loading patterns where it'll load me in but then the screen will go black
It also loads me in random locations in maps keeps me there, blacks the screen out then makes a buzzing noise
Nope, it's been fine here.
heck, i am so frustrated. I just wanted to play ;-;
i need zuckerberg avatar
everything seems fine for me, aside from some lags in my visor
@vocal shard ah that one, yeah that's possible to do granted it's a fair amount of work
Oh i know my internet is poo, lol, I managed to fix it by getting lucky on a load, finally being able to nav the menus, and then clearing the cache @vocal shard
Hey, anyone know any good vive tracker belts
any good?\
I bought those @rigid crescent

@steady tree im getting the valve index, upgrading from my oculus rift
Nice link
i wanted the og vive but its discontinued
Yeah, the vive was getting outdated in some aspects. I upgraded to a Rift S
I want to get the Trackstrap/Trackbelt+ that gives an additional 8 hours in FBT.
guys, anyone know why my vive trackers arent showing up even though they are connected? please @ if possible
@vocal shard showing where?
SteamVR isn't picking up or displaying that my trackers are connected. My trackers would light up green but SteamVR doesn't pick up on that
Everything paired correctly?
If so try re pair
And do they work in game?
Take a look at manage vive trackers
Anyone know the canadian forces in vr chat
the dutch people will take over VRC
mark my words.
Yes
dutch weebs
no , we are preparing to take over
once we have taken over, we will force everyone to eat stroopwafels
tfw someone starts using laggy avatars
oof
All the time?
i'm glad i'm not that unlucky
@vale wave Can't force us to eat stroopwafels if we already want to eat them
@rough pulsar Good, we have taken control already ;P
But why would you not want to eat stroopwafels?
whats a stroopwafel
If they're the ones from Iceland (the store, not the country). Those are horrid
They're absolutely lovely is what they are.
Daelmans are the ones I see most the time over here.
oh those! Theyre so good. I think theyre just called waffles here in germany (correct me if I'm wrong. I'm looking at you sasha)
@vocal shard every public lobby and even F+ I've been in with a decent amount of people has at least one
mostly due to lack of simple optimization
Kanjers are okay, but freshly made ones are obvs the best.
Luckily i don't have see that much, but when i see it, it's very obnoxious. Most of the laggy avatars that i see are e-boy avatars with crazy effects that sometimes crashes my game. lol
Gotta love those
Not that it lags me often but I see it very frequently and it's a shake-my-head moment everytime
What about frikandel broodjes gallium
whats broodjes
Google the food
If your a Dutch teen you eat that and drink cheap knockoff energy drinks
wait they sell those in small at the discounter near my school. Theyre just called "würstchen snack" which translates to sausage snack
Is it with kurry inside it?
If so that's the one
no it just has ketchup and the yellow not-ketchup thing I forgot the name
And they need frikkandel not just any wurst
O then it's not the same
Also #general-media time
An avatar I had favorited is showing as no-longer available and it's driving me mad trying to figure out what it was.
I had 3 avatars with questionable content (the cum-zone player one, one of the busty dragon girl ones and one of the Blazikin ones) and they're all still there, so I legitimately have no idea which one was removed.
busty dragon girl? kobayashi? lol
No, it was one of the colourful ones from the dragon girl world or whatever it's called. It was favorited from ages ago as a joke to wind someone up. One of these - https://i.imgur.com/LNbRxwv.png
Can be the creator got clapped for something else and the avatars got removed because of that or that the person just didn't want them out there anymore
Possibly. Either deleted, privated, world deleted, uploader banned, etc. But I don't know which avatar it was so I can't even hazard a guess.
ahhh udon is in open beta 💟
Open Alpha.
Early Access*
Open Alpha Early Access Pre-order DLC
Come get your Open Alpha feature in your Early Access game right here folks
So uhh question is there like a way you could register your world in the Winter 2019 in the world list?
Quick question, I couldn't find the appropriate channel to post this.
Which version of Unity will be used for the VRChat 2018 move?
Thanks.
Look at #open-beta-info
Currently 2018.4.14f1 but it may change later.
Alright thanks.
Actually they still say 13f1 but any version of .4 should technically work.
Also you probably want #open-beta-announcements as the info one is out of date.
they say .14f1 for the udon test
Don't have access to that channel if you don't react to that message in #open-beta-info
Ahh, fair enough then.
what hoi meme?
You need to calibrate, press both triggers once your feet/waist is in place
alright
(look down, you need to line up the balls with your avatar, roughly)
@gilded helm This might help: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/full-body-tracking
oh
doesnt rly
one of my goddamn trackers isnt working
for the hip
keeps tracking it and losing it
even if I'm in plain sight
I had that issue. How are your receivers positioned?
corners of my room
Not the base stations, the receivers
Yeah, that's a bad place to put it
They come with extension cables
ohh
For specifically this reason 😛
i thgought they were charging cables only
Nope, it should have multiple leads but also keep them at least 3cm apart from each other else it'll still malfunction.
do you need your hip though in order to move feet?
Yes
I was thinking cuz my feet weren't moving ingame
You can either use JUST the hip, or the hip and both feet, no other combination.
Wish that there were support for more trackers and easier ways to put them on your body
Kinnect 1/2, Vive Trackers, Nolo... not sure what other trackers exist that could be supported?
No like you can only have 3 vive trackers in vrchat
Ah, that's probably because of bandwidth as much as anything else, as reverse IK still has to be calculated and all your tracked limb locations still have to be sent to everyone else in the room.
In other words maybe in 2025
Someone is “banning” randoms in VRchat with a client that closes and crashes your game.
Record them and report
Once logged back on, it says you’ve been banned for 30 minutes and to join their Discord
Want a picture?
Give me the pic
That was a thing a long time ago but relaunching fixed it.
yeah literally just relaunch the game lol
@weary parrot yeah it's known. The team is trying to work on it
its a common client trick
Thanks. Literally everyone in their discord is losing their minds
I did relaunch the game. It forced everyone into the same avatar
when u relaunch, spam or hold down ctrl+\
make sure urkeyboard is set to english
Itll set u to a default avatar
@weary parrot then youll be okay*
Yeah the ban message is a fake one, it's just a disconnect message.
Yeah literally banning someone sounds very improbable
Yikes

And even if you could exploit in order to ban others, it'd probably never be leaked
dsddsdsdsdsdsdsdsd
Yikers
Que
@desert stratus It didn’t work. Any other way to get the default avatar?
@gilded helm MO!
im not going to be doing anything else with vrchat. once that "udon" thing gets released to the live version of vrchat, EVERYTHING is going to break. and im not having it! im not going to go through all of my worlds and redoing everything that was a hassle to make in the first place
@gilded helm Can confirm it's real. Never seen anything like it. Just got a animation that took up my screen saying I got a 30 minute ban then I crashed. Thinking nothing of it I logged back in to a private world and the same screen came up and crashed me.
How is that even possible?
@serene plover Udon runs separately, you just continue to use SDK2
Ah, I see. Somehow they changed my avatar for me into one that keeps crashing myself.
Jeez so many people getting force changed...
I never knew it was possible, honestly.
Apparently the hack went viral the last few days because a lot of people are reporting it now
It's a little concerning that the game can be so badly broken by bad actors 😅
It's been around for months, it's just being used heavily now.
Ah, okay. I was really concerned when I relogged and it was still happening.
Yes, several days ago first people were reporting someone force changing everyone in Room of the Rain into apple avatar that crashes you. Now we have this.
I'm also seeing a lot of people using a client to force kick people from lobbies for an hour. Has happened to me and my bf a few times and this one chill dude last night did it to a few annoying kids in the lobby
I wasn't entirely upset about that last one though
I wonder if they can force change you even with safety settings on. I have my shield level always set to none.
I think that's just having 'master' rights or whatever in a world
And kicking (vote or otherwise) blocks you from joining that world for an hour
Ironically this thing has been in the game for ages just never harshly abused
No you can't kick players without a vote in publics worlds. These hackers can just kick anyone without a vote.
Right, but the hack is just getting 'mod' rights in a public world, right?
There is no such thing as mod rights in public world's
So it's using actual game functionality, just getting it when it shouldn't be possible
Question, anyway to reset my default avatar? I can't login anymore.
I don't think anyone should be able to force change someone elses avatar, maybe aside from VRChat Team.
Basically the client relies on other clients to tell you if you've been locked apparently, so all the modded client does is tell you you've bee kicked and you're kicked, which is hilarious.
*kicked not locked
The fact that you can even force change other players baffles me. I'm really curious what they are exploiting to do that
Since VRChat lacks any form of security client side, anything is possible at this point.
Yeah, I assume most of the stuff is just abusing functionality that already exists. Also, that sounds janky for kicking 😱
Photon I think
One of those things I would think was made up until it happened to me. lol
" hey dude you've been kicked" "oh okay"
Trust people to give plenty of reason for semi-invasive security processes that people hate
Exhibit A: this mess
Or I suppose more accurately, trust people to exploit other people's trust
Working in IT and security, rule one is basically NEVER TRUST THE CLIENT.
@serene plover what enverex said, you can just. Not update your sdk
udon is actially good unlike dogshit triggers anyway
Is udon actually developed enough to build anything... Good? Outside the lack of synced variables anyways
Or is it just a toy in its current state?
i mean it looks like it is though there are some things that are kinda yikes
according to my friend you cant ddo basic arithmetic in udon, you have to call math problems as a function rather than as an instruction
which dooesnt make any sense but
its undeniable that its better than just having triggers and nothing else
Also no chairs, kek
Oof
I'm excited for it but I don't want to dig into it too early and get frustrated with bugs and lack of features
Well it is still alpha at the moment.
Yah I know. Im probably going to wait until it's in a beta state at least
Just curious what it can do now since all I've seen are spinning blocks and clocks
someone also made those lights from a christmas tree that activate after each other and deactivate when the next one activates
The oculus quest has hand tracking...?
I heard they are most hated in vrchat lol
I believe it. They cant see most avatars
imagine murder vrchat but if it were actually good
thats what i want udon to do. If it can make murder good, it has succeeded
has someonealready contacted the dudebro who made murder and asked if theyre working on murder 4 yet?
I got a rift S because of that, didnt want to spend $400 plus another 50 on a proprietary cord thats still in beta
I just want to make a Zelda style dungeon with a boss without some hacky animation state machine thing I don't even know how it works and I don't want lol
i have an idea for dungeon shit
Rift s..?
Someone told me that if u have a pc and u connect it it works perfectly
You need a high spec pc and it's not quite perfect but it should work well enough.
My friend either cant hear or cant speak with the cable
I'm not sure the Mic works yet, that was supposed to be added in an update, audio should work, needs to make sure he has the right audio device selected.
Yeah the quest is known for the mic not always working through oculus link yet
No
hes busy eating udon noodles
Magical world creation noodles
are people using modded clients to change everybody into a certain avatar now? is this new?
just happened to me twice
It's relatively easy set up triggers in worlds to change everyone's avatars. Unless you're 100% it's not a cheeky world creator, then that might be the case.
hqppened in riom of rain to me a week or two ago
It's happening in games of Warewolf, a well established map.
@nimble linden New, no, it's been happening for months. New on this scale? Yes, as of yesterday.
Yeah before it was just "we got swapped into something dumb"
This is significantly more malicious
its in the room of the rain that it happened
so maybe its the world
i have it set up in one of my private worlds
uhm i found elmo in the corridors but you cant be him ;-;
to turn people into my sonic toilet
Room of the Rain is probably popular with the trolls because instant gratification
It's not the world most likely. Spanish Hub has no reason to do anything malicious and it's happened in other world's as well
is it a community labs world and are you still a visitor?
me?
yes
idk how do i check?
if you open the quick menu you can see yourself at the top and at the bottom of the picture it shows your rank
are you in desktop mode or vr? If vr which do you have
VR
what headset do you have
oculas rift s
I think its the B button then
alr
press that and look at the picture at the top. there should be a color around that picture
that random avatar switching exploit, yes, it's slowly becoming a problem. i've seen someone in the great pug exploit this issue to change everyone's avatar to a crasher avatar, hell broke loose after that
Is that world with the avatar a communtiy labs?
in the quick menu on the side there is a button with "report world" if theres a science lab glass thing then thats a community labs world
no just check if there is the icon or not
not the name. On the "report world" button is there an icon of a lab glass thing or not?
Pretty sure that one isn’t
there is no icon
big al's corridor is an old world
:/
then its a problem with the world
it shouldn't be in comlabs
REEEEEE i just wanna be elmo
Report goes to the admins, you don't want that. If there's an issue with the world, report it to the creator.
Your search for big al corridor returned the following top result:
Big Al‘s Avatar Corridors
https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_e6b1d6f1-2c45-4d96-a3b0-5db6d153edff
is there another way to be elmo on vrchat?
Just find a world that has an Elmo avatar, I'm sure there's probably hundreds.
My boyfriend has a small elmo avatar but it's kind of cancer. spawns hellfire and metal screams and shit
wth
You say "there is none" followed by that you've seen people using them, so clearly there are...
elmo is metal
yes but none that i can find
Hey so I was thinking, couldn't you fix the crashing avatar thing by logging on to Quest version of VRChat? It would force you into the robot avatar and you could easily switch to a safe avatar from there.
Well the somewhat critical problem with that idea, is that you need a Quest to do it, lol
or a friend with one 😌
By making PC unplayable because of hackers we will have to all buy quests and join the facebook cult
That's actually my worst nightmare, no
@twin fractal The fix is to sign in and spam Ctrl+/ on the keyboard and it switches you to a default avatar
Ctrl+\ rather than /
Apparently it doesn't work for everyone, so I just thought up an alternative while slaving away at work lol
Ah, not a bad idea for Quest owners lol
I would probably go about it a different way. Make it so when vrchat crashes in general, revert to the default robot avatar
See I've had that actually happen, but annoyingly not at any useful times.
"Bwong" black screen, now you're a default avatar
I will pay someone 0 to make me an Elmo character
Why do you want one so bad
No
hello
I'm free from work life in 2 hours
because i can do a elmo voice
Hello guy
Hold shift while the game is opening
Do I just have bad luck, or is there a sudden increase in force-crashers? I've been crashed 5 times now due to other's avatars. (They were intentional, such as firing guns at my character. I have a decent PC too).
well theres that team 50g
i havent heard of particle crashers in a ahile
and they are doing shit left and right all the time
its probably this team 50pee shit
so it might be them
I would just disable them but the last two were the purple rank (Trusted User I think)
time to tune up safety settings
those are the least trusted people in the game
I can tell.
disable very poor and poor avatars to be safe
is it just me or is vrchat literially dying rn, i cant load avatas,worlds, etc
Oh wow, yeah. Lots of yellow.
theyre probably crunching for udon shit uwu
would make sense since it seems like its still hella alpha
so alpha that alpha itself became a season pass
udon battle pass
Udon even know what's going to happen on release.
Ubucks
you can buy TDAs with them. In an ideal world, you can buy booth models
@snow wadi you are always cool kid 

Battle Pass 
Ubucks are used for wolfboys and particles
Udon Pass xD
alright we should stop giving them ideas
Too late, pill wrote them all down.
in this day and age they might actually do it
Lol
Why so much yellows? Damn
Bet they're having a meeting about them bucks
@snow wadi you have the power to influence Ruuubick. Please stop his calamity from happening
That's true
I can try D:
I just got a recording that's gonna get 3 purple users banned feels gud
you cant guarantee that
They all openly admit to using a modded client and then actively try to crash some 11 year old kid using crashing avatars
Are you suggesting VRC doesn't ban people?
I am not suggesting anything
VRC would only enforce the strictest punishment on these people because they have integrity
They don't ban as harshly as they should
They admittedly take it easy on some cases because they know this game is like their only lifeline to some people's friends and shit like that
Something along those lines.
theres also little point to it since you can just use a new account
But with a video it's pretty much guaranteed ban of some sort. Whether it's a week, a month, or permanent seems to be case by case
Eh my Outlook on it is if you ban 100 and 99 come back you made progress
Out of a hundred bans though I'm sure less than that come back
thats true
I honestly don't bother reporting people but if I got a video with 3 trusted users I'ma send it. Enjoy the grind back up
ranks dont mean anything though
They really don't but they do to these edgy teenagers
I've been sitting in publics for a few hours on desktop while I work trying to get hit by that avatar change hack but all I can find are boring crashers and the regular old client users
Hurry up and change my avatar you damn leeches
Check Werewolf games, that's where a lot of people said it was happening
It seems to have died down now though.
and Room of the rain apparently
Must've just been a few dudes earlier jumping from lobby to lobby for a bit
werewolf and murder seem to be the most common ones based on people complaining
and rain room too but that's obvious because it's popular
first most active is usually a safe bet
hey does anyone here know how to create vr avatars because im having trouble creating my first one and would like to see if i could get any to help me so just DM me if you can
Look up Kareeda's guides
ok
Stop
I have died in the VOID 😄
Stop
They dont encourage client use
Except it's not. VRChat does not allow clients. Stop spreading bs
If anyone does that, its the client users. Not the VRChat devs
but the client users already broke a rule by modifying the vrchat client
Just record and report client users...
They will get banned sooner or later anyways
Tl;dr you are claiming that a lack of action on their part implies permission
Thats not how rules work tho
Tl;dr an idiot
Heh
ok he got 
To be fair, though, would the dev team be apposed to someone modding the client to fix that issue, then sharing the code with them to make it official? It's what Mojang did before Microsoft bought them out
Oh man, I just realized that’s basically the whole gun argument. ‘The only way to fight a bad person with a client is a good person with a client’
@everyone I'm about to jump in, does anyone want to meet me?
@patent maple Just a heads up for next time, it's usually considered bad discord manners to ping everyone in a large server for non announcements.
Have fun in VRChat 
sorry 😅
No worries 
Good thing most large servers disable it for randos 😛
Mans pinging 26+ thousand people like it's nothing 
lol
Bruuuh udon looks lit af
The ping didn't work though. But an attempt was made
If it had worked, you'd have noticed a flood of memes 😛
I wanna make something but ive only ever uploaded one world and it was an mmd ri
I kinda wish it autokicked you for a day or two if you tried to do it
Actually, a server this large might be default not allow rando-everyone pings. I know even mods get a warning before pinging 200+ people
But if you don't even have the authority, it will just be a dead ping without saying anything 😛
Hello everyone
Udon is a actually scary. Not due to complexity, but due to exploitation. Wondering how much will end up removed or if they think we'll be okay with some of these things staying, knowing our "content" Creators.
I'll just keep the details mum right now.
I guess.
I mean most of the "content" creators doing the cool stuff aren't malicious anyway
most of the really, really bad exploits seem to always get found by the right people for the most part
like writing data bad
like when it comes to your average asshole, they don't know what they're doing anyway, they're just running scripts and calling it a day
Problem comes in when you consider the idea of adding node based editing the likes of Udon to avatars for Avatars 2.0
big shrug on that one
Also, most of the time, malicious exploits are found and used maliciously until it gets bandaid wiped out of existence.
Most are found by the people that make some of the most interesting content in order to see how they can make it useful, then someone takes note of those uses and how they can rig it to explode. 😅
I'm genuinely curious how udon can be used maliciously in avatars. As long as each avatar's nodes are only accessable through that controlling client and client session, I don't see how it would be a huge deal
lol If you see what Udon can do, imagine that added right onto avatars. Matter of time.
My understanding is that Udon has a lot of things right now that insta tank perf down to single digit framerates.
But it's coming anyway, because it has to.
Well, I would hope that if they did port it to avatars they would only have the nodes they need for it
I'm skeptical about the precedent for that kind of thinking 😰
If it were ported to avatars i imagine it'd be stripped down. Theyve mentioned wanting "udon for avatars" but that's surely a long way off
I mean, I can't see why you'd need the ability to control another users camera, but it exists 
I mean, it’s the same difference for me
yes
it twas the final day of school and i did nothing
some guy was being a bit rude
so i pelted a snickers bar at him and yelled at him to eat it
Wew
@fading flower that's the most hardcore thing I've ever heard of, I'm proud of you
"your acting like a twat, your not you when your hungry, eat a snikers" proceed to yeet
sounds like a "then everyone clapped" story 
Then Albert Einstein entered the lobby and gave him 3000 VBucks
Hello
lol
Anyone knows how to get the extra items in a avatar?
what
anyone using/used a kinect for full body tracking?
got an issue where my feet in game turn along with my head
They're not being tracked then
If you didnt click the button with something about foot rotation and head or something like that then its bugged or something
The only thing that should even remotely affect them are your hips
I sometimes enable it if my kinect is too stupid to track my feet right
hmm don't have anything like that turned on
I know driver4vr has a mode that follows your head direction.
What program are you using?
In the calibration page, at the top
There should be a drop menu that says
Track foot rotation by, head rotation, body and arms position, actual position
@vocal shard any idea what it should be on?
Dont you love when world loading doesnt work and it just dumps you at a black screen...
The void welcomes you with open arms
oof the blackscreen
oh also, someone in the #madewithudon tag was talking about how their audio stuff is a lot easier with udon
so I'd imagine your world will be a lot more organized and easier to set up once you figure it out
Hopefully...
maybe something like just a catchall "ay if you get close to this it make sound"
willing to be thats a thing
Is there a way to get into contact with a mod? I think someone falsely reported me
Hmmm, worth takin' a look at #moderation-reports but what makes ya think someone did?
Unless someone bombarded you with blocks and reports to get you to nuisance, false reports don't do anything
Were you banned for it?
Typically false reports are meaningless
But if you were botted into nuisance or something then that's a different story
i wasnt banned before, but after two people left i got banned for creating nsfw content. I had 2 nude avatars on my account but they were purely for getting measurement for future avatar making. (Which I have yet to really do)
Nope
I deleted them but i never pulled them out in public or anywhere near others
Can't upload NSFW content, even private. If you do anyways and got clapped for it then that's on you
Well were they public?
no
Hm, and no one else besides you saw it?
nope
Hm
i made sure of that
Tell 80% of vrchat that you can't upload nsfw avatars
Then I dunno how they figured it out, but nonetheless you're not allowed to do that either way 
i deleted them tho
If they use it and I report the avatar I know that there is a 100% chance that they'll get clapped
so i dunno who to contact
Sure people upload it anyways because people don't care, but one report and their avatar is gone
Well it's just a temp ban anyways isn't it?
Nobody's gonna rightfully report your private stuff
yeah to the 27th
Hm
People get banned for nsfw even when not even having nsfw avatars
Like Enverex at one point
seems like the blanket ban reason
"NSFW Avatar in public" for the person that only ever uses his own dragon avatars
I dunno but if it's just a temp ban that short ya might just wanna wait it out
By the time you sorted through that with their support it's probably already the 27th
i guess, its just infuriating
If enough people report you for nsfw i wonder if you get banned without a check
yes barbie doll nude, there were not insidey parts
And the bottom had no texture detailing any female organs?
nope
Because if so I don't really get it
Because I thought Barbie Doll nude was perfectly fine, especially when not using it for anything that would break the NSFW rule
People get banned for no reason once in a while
i freaked out, cause i havent been banned before
No real reason at least
this is my first
I've seen avatars that just barely covered up the bits that were apparently fine too
But the problem is that support will likely not tell you the specifics of why the ban was issued
I think you just got unlucky
Since everything the moderators do is happening behind closed doors
Mostly for privacy reasons
People can mass report you to get your rank down and there's nothing you can do about it
I wouldn't be surprised if a nsfw ban can be exploited in a similar way
Though what you could do is take a screenshot of the base models you had uploaded and send it to support and ask if there is anything wrong with it
i dont have the models anymore
Not even locally?
i think i might have deleted them
Oh
yeah
Then it doesnt matter that much I guess
You can try doing a ban appeal anyway
if no one EVER saw the nude models and you're positive of it, it could just be a botted ban
I mean, does Barbie Doll nude = NSFW?
If enough people report you for nsfw i wonder if you get banned without a check
as far as this goes, what more than likely happens is that you're reported for NSFW (even if it's a "false" report) and they DO check and, despite never using it where anyone can see, you've got one on your account
that's kinda irrelevant
if it's nsfw enough or not
I'd think they have better things to do than check private avatars
Or maybe there is no way to check if you even use it in public
so they just assume it's not a false report
Yeah that's what I mean. You get enough reports that "oh we should check this out" and they do
If you never used it in front of anyone how would someone be able to ... oh wait
Yeah, that's what I was getting at 👌
@vocal shard Do you remember what the avatar thumbnail looked like?
Sasha
Hm?
the avatar doesn't matter
usually any of my models i upload were of the face
i think the point here is probably a botted ban
Hm
That sounds very concerning
Then again, Enverex got hit by that at one point too
As of right now though we don't really know if they have an autoban system or if it's all done manually and reporting just flags accounts for checking
I'm sorry but didn't you notice that people literally derank unfairly because of bots
And other things too
I do
Yeah, that's a thing as well, luckily its super easy to spot in the API
It's exploitable as hell
But getting botted into nuisance =/= ban
I was under the assumption bans are issued manually
You don't know how their system works
Well again, if bot-blocking was instaban, we'd see it more often
They might be, they might be not in some cases
I'd assume they aren't
But the checking could be arbitrary as well
and, again, people would be blowing up streamers with it....and then it'd be fixed lol
Shrug

Or one of the devs is just fucking around
And banning random people for things they didn't do 
lol thats doubtful
ban me pls
b&
inb4 1 year ban
4 year you mean 
~1 month~
No no no, I'd probably a 1 week public ban because I'm a user that plays obsessively
The more of a no-lifer you are, the less harsh your punishments
as far as some things go
Interesting
They've said it themselves (not as plainly, obviously), and I also know of someone who I reported with video from someone's stream that only got a month long Public Ban despite, yknow....being a crasher
Like someone I know personally, not just a rando
and despite that being his second ban
anyone else here seeing random invite and friends instances pop up on the great pug instance list ingame?
#41867 invite, from a user i dont even know or have on my friends list (Jitae82)
same with #48332 friends from Doublegoose
"blah blah blah, we take into account that people are no-lifers and this is the only way they can communicate with their friends but sometimes we have to be more harsh" kind of deal
never had this issue happen before
lemme see if i can scour my screenshots for that gem
with fbt sometimes my controller becomes my foot etc
is there anyway to fix this w/o restarting everything?
same with kareedaflix, several friends/invite instances from people i dont know
I think there is a way to unassign trackers as hand controllers
Yeah, you go into Track Settings and jsut Disable them. That'll make it so it doesn't assume any one tracker belongs in a certain spot
I see private instances as well.
tracking settings?
Under Steam VR
where?
Uh
i cant check right now, my headset isnt plugged in so i cant even get to that menu
right click a tracker maybe?
IIRC you can do it on desktop too
yeah just make it nothing
Change "Held in Hand" to something else
you should be able to just make it "none" or something like that
Yeah
that was the most annoying thing when I got FBT...
yep, now that should never happen again~
dw the trackers will still work ingame but they won't be auto assigned to something it shouldnt be
still need to restart tho but that sounds better than this shite
Yeah but then ya never have to do that ever again
ye ive restarted 3 times already
yes
The world is empty
Dont see any Murder 2 invite worlds rn
@rigid crescent
lemme see if i can scour my screenshots for that gem
If ya find it please let me know via a @ mention.
I'll have to mute the server for now

yeah im trying to remember who i sent the screenshot to to begin with, it'll be easier that way lol




@rigid crescent



