vrchat-general-2

[untold plaza]

which is big gae that it dont work today

[ruby needle]

do you allready have a vrchat account? it might be a good time to make one

you can connect your steam one to it once it works again, and you gain all benefits of a full account.

[untold plaza]

ugh fine all my avatars are gonna be gone now oof

[ruby needle]

you can later link your steam account to the vrchat account, you can then use the steam login to login to the vrchat account and also the friends and avatars and such transfere over

it at least would let you play right now.

[untold plaza]

uhm where do I go to link accounts

[ruby needle]

once you can login to your steam again you can go to the settings and find a button there

that'll give you a code you can sen enter on the website

and that will link it

[untold plaza]

mk

[split timber]

hiya

I need help with something

You know the camera right? which you can spawn in game

ye, like......how do I take pictures with it and upload them to my picture folder on my pc?

[broken plover]

when you have it in your hand to move around you just press trigger and the pictures are automatically saved to the Images path on your computer. When you open the explorer on the left it says like "This PC" and stuff and somewhere it should say something like "Images" or "Pictures" click on that and then theres a VRChat folder with all the pictures in it

[dark totem]

need help making my own avatars if someone could message me. i would appreciate it

[fading pivot]

Does anyone here know an okano in-game?

[wet tinsel]

whats a really good vr headset with controller for about 400 bucks

thinking about the rift s or quest

[fading pivot]

I recommend the rift S over the quest. You're going to have a bad time with the Quest. Most avatars will look like robots, you won't be able to visit many worlds, VRChat eats up a lot of space for easily.

[vocal shard]

@fading pivot not right

u can see the PC avatars

just klick on the person and press: show avatar.
and now u see the person ^^

[fading pivot]

Most avatars are above the poly limit

[vocal shard]

and still u can see them

[wet tinsel]

minimum gb needed for pc?

[vocal shard]

recormanded is a GTX 1060 anf 16gb ram for VR.
but u can use a RX580 8gb its cheeper but better then the GTX 1060

[wet tinsel]

Ive got a 2070 super

[vocal shard]

its way better then the 1060

[wet tinsel]

Well I know that

[vocal shard]

how many ram do you have?

[wet tinsel]

16gb

[vocal shard]

CPU?

[wet tinsel]

R5 3600

[vocal shard]

then ur good to go 😄

u have the same setup i will buy soon xD

[summer sage]

"then u might play with a stunning 25 fps"

[fading pivot]

Do you have a quest yourself?

[wet tinsel]

Deeju the eye can only see 10 fps

[summer sage]

i thought u could only hear 27 fps

[vocal shard]

@fading pivot nope but a friend 😄

@wet tinsel wrong, ur eye can see 30 FPS to 45fps

[summer sage]

ah

[broken plover]

if the eye can only see 10fps then how come I can see the difference between 30 and 60 fps

[vocal shard]

60fps is the same like 45fps for our eye

[wet tinsel]

bruh snowstorm you dont get the joke do you

[broken plover]

the human eye can see with a frequenzy up to 20000000Hz or something.

[wet tinsel]

the people in here are such boomers

[summer sage]

heh ^^

[faint skiff]

@vocal shard "just klick on the person and press: show avatar." This is not true at all

[vocal shard]

yeah, but still just 30-45fps 😄

[wet tinsel]

these people literally fall for a joe mama meme

[faint skiff]

That will only work if a Quest avatar has been uploaded for that person, but they're above the safety limits.

[vocal shard]

@faint skiff it is, u can see the PC avatars ^^

[faint skiff]

No, that's not how it works, at all. Please stop spreading misinformation.

[vocal shard]

but then u will lag or crash 🤷

[wet tinsel]

But I asked how much gb the rift s has because I thought it had gb because the quest showed gb

Guess I am 4

[summer sage]

isnt rift s directly to your computer so it does not need any storage space?

[vocal shard]

rift is to ur PC

[wet tinsel]

Yeah I realized that after I was a roitard

[vocal shard]

Quest is without PC or with PC

Quest has 64gb and 128gb

[wet tinsel]

debating between the quest or rift because both cost similar

[vocal shard]

but 64 is enough 🤷

[wet tinsel]

people say rift because I have a pc

[faint skiff]

An avatar has a blueprint ID. It can have two avatars uploaded to that ID, a PC version and a Quest version. These are no compatible at all, nothing you can do on one platform can cause it to display the other platform's version because they're uploaded using a different Unity setup, built for a different architecture. Anyone that says otherwise is lying or painfully misinformed. An avatar can only be displayed on the platform that the Unity + the SDK have uploaded it for for the reasons above.

[vocal shard]

then get the rift, i recomand a Vive or a index

[wet tinsel]

I can only spend like 500>

[summer sage]

getting surpriced everytime when i see people with below average computers from 2008 looking for a VR setup

[vocal shard]

Rift S has some problems with reckings if its dark or ur hand behind ur back 😄

[faint skiff]

The avatars that you can see when you "Show avatar" on a user are ones where they have an avatar uploaded for that platform, but it's above the allowed limits, e.g. above 10,000 tris on quest. Nothing to do with "showing the PC avatar"

[vocal shard]

Vave and Index dont have these problems

[faint skiff]

@vocal shard I hope you're paying attention.

[summer sage]

wait do you have to have a lighted up room to play with rift s? my room has been in complete darkness for a few years lol

[vocal shard]

@faint skiff i do 😄

[umbral reef]

@summer sage Its more nice then people who have 1.2K$ monitors saying vr is too expensive

[vocal shard]

and now i understand it 😄

[faint skiff]

@summer sage Yes, the Rift S, Cosmos and Quest need a lit room to work.

Vive, Vive Pro and Index don't, they work in pitch black.

[wet tinsel]

I cant afford a vive

[summer sage]

or people who buys the latest iphone and then say a 80 bucks game is expensive @umbral reef

[umbral reef]

Jup

[vocal shard]

if u have a realy big room, and good light, the quest is good to go, u can walk in ur intire room 😄

[wet tinsel]

I have a small room

[vocal shard]

@wet tinsel then save for a vive, or buy a rift 🤷

[summer sage]

guess i have to buy some lamps then lmao, been using this christmas star as a light source since 2016

[faint skiff]

I wouldn't recommend the Quest version of the game to my worst enemies, but at least with the Quest Link you can now use it to play the full PC version of the game.

[wet tinsel]

so rift not rift s

[faint skiff]

But keep in mind that the Quest is the least comfortable of all the main headsets by a long shot, and heavy.

[broken plover]

a vive nowadays costs less or the same as a rift s but its pretty old technology

[faint skiff]

Second hand Vive is normally cheap, if you check locals and eBay.

[summer sage]

i always feel skeptical about second hand electronics

[vocal shard]

in germany the Vive is just at 499€ same as the Rift

[faint skiff]

Not new, second hand. Vive is discontinued so buying it new makes no sense anyway and HTC overprice all their products.

[vocal shard]

and the quest 64gb is at 399€

[faint skiff]

I mean, you can't complain about prices and then completely disregard the second hand market. If you don't have money then you have to consider other options.

[vocal shard]

yep

[umbral reef]

64gb quest is stupid anyway

[wet tinsel]

why

[vocal shard]

and im gonna buy the Quest 😄

the 64gb version is more then enough if u just play VRC and Beat Saber 🤷

[summer sage]

well i have been playing about 2.5 weeks and atm the game cache is around 35gb

[wet tinsel]

waiting until the military buys vr for the soldiers so they fight in vr world instead of real war

that would be epic

[vocal shard]

@summer sage yeah, thats what i mean, the 64gb version has more then enough storage 😄

[summer sage]

neural link confirmed 2025 @wet tinsel

[umbral reef]

Just know you are locked into there forced eco system
Wont be on the same rooms as other people within VRchat (quest only or crossplay only whats really limiting) and the link cable people claim is the godsend requires a fair bit from your pc (more then normal VR), needs a 3.0 port, cant charge while playing, means you need to buy games again and ect.

[wet tinsel]

sword art online usa edition

[vocal shard]

that no Problem @umbral reef

Quest has some good thinks, and PC has some good thinks 😄

[umbral reef]

Just wanted to make sure you know the problems with the headset as people love to understate them or fully ignore them.

[vocal shard]

i would buy a Quest for non PC use.
and a vive for PC use

[summer sage]

whats better with vive over rift s if i may ask?

[vocal shard]

i know the problems of the quest, but thats not a big deal with the problems 🤷

[wet tinsel]

My country has little people so it will be hard to buy local

[vocal shard]

@summer sage vive

[broken plover]

(ligthhouse) tracking is better on the vive

[faint skiff]

The Quest version of VRChat will mean you miss, what, probably about 99% of the game's content? And it will look... well it doesn't look great. Just keep that in mind. It's not going to look anything like the videos you've seen on YouTube.

[vocal shard]

defently the vive

[umbral reef]

@summer sage Screen is leaps more modern and overall design (like weight distribution) is better

(for the rift S as its a 0.5 generation ahead)

[vocal shard]

@faint skiff it would like the same as PC low settings 🤷

[umbral reef]

Actually no it wont

[faint skiff]

@vocal shard No, not even remotely.

Also that still doesn't give you access to the worlds you'll be missing.

[vocal shard]

im playing at Pc Low, 720p

[umbral reef]

It can look the same but on average it doesnt.
VRchat for example limits the amount of materials users can use, no partciles and ect.
Loads of the fancy things that do add a bit (ears moving with awwooo's for example) cant be done.

[vocal shard]

it jsut can run better then on my PC xD
i have an Old PC

A 720p screen is about equivalent to what an index looks like in the headset

[umbral reef]

Its still great, its just different

[vocal shard]

yeah

i just have 1gb Vram and a GTX 560 TI SOC sooo

[summer sage]

i wonder how long it will take until 1080p 144hz vr setups comes on the market

[faint skiff]

Even then, the textures on the Quest are very low resolution in comparison too, on top of the perceived low resolution. Let me find a picture of the Black Cat for referece.

[vocal shard]

@summer sage the original rift and Vive were 1080p

[faint skiff]

@summer sage Eh? The Index is 2x 1440x1600 @ 144Hz.

[ruby needle]

1080p 144hz? we allready have 144hz but higher then 1080p with the index.

Allthough experimental.

[summer sage]

@faint skiff 1440x1600 looks weird tho

[vocal shard]

[faint skiff]

Not when you have one screen per eye.

[ruby needle]

our eyes arent exactly widescreen

[umbral reef]

Wait yours arent?

[twin fractal]

speak for yourself

[ruby needle]

well each individual one

[wet tinsel]

Do I need a good internet connection for vr?

[twin fractal]

for vr in general?

[wet tinsel]

yes

[twin fractal]

not really

unless your playing something that requires constant connection, i dont see why it'd be an issue

[wet tinsel]

what about vrchat

[summer sage]

dunno have u played vrchat on desktop mode before?

have u had any struggles while doing that if so?

[wet tinsel]

desktop mode lags but vrmode doesnt

[summer sage]

huh

[wet tinsel]

yeah

[mighty sierra]

Has anyone had an issue where you load up VRC and your character keeps spinning endlessly?

[ruby needle]

unplug any game controller you might have connected

[broken plover]

that happens when you have any controllers (including racing wheels) plugged in. Try unplugging them

[mighty sierra]

Okay. I'll give it a try. I'll let you know if it's worked

Yep. Worked a treat. Thank you so much

[errant hare]

Waaaait, so can I use steering wheel to move my avatar?

[broken plover]

no. You can use a racing wheel to permanently spin tho

[summer sage]

would be kinda derpy to be able to use a steering wheel to drive the ingame cars

[errant hare]

Ok, that doesn't seem so fun

[broken plover]

but luckily, software exists that translates any input to xInput. so technically you can use a racingwheel to play vrc

[faint skiff]

Steam lets you rebind everything internally now anyway

[broken plover]

either I'm doing something wrong or it doesnt work... When I try to rebind it, I cant really bind a function to a key/button, but a vive key/button to my wmr controller...

[errant hare]

R U modeling a tree house @faint skiff ?

[broken plover]

but in vivecraft for example its working fine, and I can bind any function to any button

[wet tinsel]

I thought WMR is bad

[broken plover]

it is

[faint skiff]

@errant hare Yeah, part of my nature world. Going to have a big treehouse thing and a big cave thing too.

[wet tinsel]

Do you need a good internet connection to play vrchat in vr

[ruby needle]

you need a reasonable one.

[wet tinsel]

Ouch

[ruby needle]

but generally

[wet tinsel]

guess no vr

[ruby needle]

vr or no vr doesnt change in that regard

[wet tinsel]

I can play vrchat just fine

does that mean vr will work the same or is it different

[ruby needle]

Then VR's gonna be fine

[wet tinsel]

phew

gonna start saving up for a headset then

so I heard rift s is the way to go if you cant afford vive

[ruby needle]

you mean if you can't afford an index

cus a used vive is cheaper, but worse

make sure your pc is good enogh before tho

[wet tinsel]

I think it is

[coral tartan]

Some worlds look so good on pc

I can just imagine what they look like on vr

[faint skiff]

It's infinitely better in VR.

[desert stratus]

when hundernaut gets in VR and quickly realizes that a lot of textures look like shit up-close

im just kidding, s only like that if u use small avatars

[coral tartan]

Oof

Damn i want a vr headset but that yeet is expensive

[faint skiff]

@covert blade Community thing, come

[covert blade]

@faint skiff I just came home

Imma take a shower, chat with a few people, play a bit of Minecraft and go to bed

[wet tinsel]

guys im gonna break rule 2

i hate cheerios they taste bland

[ruby needle]

!purrmapun @wet tinsel

[wet tinsel]

bad pun

[broken plover]

[vocal shard]

Anyone wonna watch a movie on vrchat

prob gonna be It chapter 2

sure im bored anyway °O° (but im a desktop user)

my VRC name is the same name like here ^^

same im desktop

u can add me if u want to ^^

I added you

accepted

K

so u can invite me ^^

[summer sage]

there we go and the oculus is gonna arrive on wednesday

[vocal shard]

aww i want a vr

lol

[wet tinsel]

@vocal shard start saving

[vocal shard]

yee
its very pricy

[summer sage]

gonna headpat everyone 😄

[prime agate]

thank u

[scarlet fox]

oh boi i miss vrchat.. just kinda gave up because it doesn't work >3<

[faint skiff]

Doesnt work?

[scarlet fox]

nahh

[vocal shard]

do you know the problem?

[outer hare]

So where would i go for to report someone's server for allowing avatar ripping

[vocal shard]

what do you mean?

just go to ur Menu and press on report world lul

[ruby needle]

you'd need to report the server to Discord

the VRChat team can't really do anythign about other discord servers.

[vocal shard]

oh you mean a Discord server XD

[outer hare]

Alright cause the person who did it spammed my server i admin invites to it

Could @ the person

[polar jasper]

Just go here https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000029731

And fill out the form with type Cheating/hacking servers

[summer sage]

for some reason people cant legit hear me ingame

[ruby needle]

if they are also on our discord you could submit a moderation report with all prove you have and people involved.

But to get the Discord handled you need to contact discord like PhaxeNor said ^^

[summer sage]

but the voice reactive avatars i use still reacts to my voice but they cant hear me

[vocal shard]

@summer sage then deactived the voice or muted you 🤷

[outer hare]

I have their discord server id their id and the invite link

And a photo of their server channels

[vocal shard]

👍

[summer sage]

no man they even added me and restarted their own clients and came back

[vocal shard]

u can report the server with all these things

[summer sage]

:-:

[vocal shard]

is ur mic to silent?

[summer sage]

no cuz if it was the mic wouldnt shine up nor the pickachu would explode when i talk

[vocal shard]

go to ur seting and look at the Microphone volume

[outer hare]

I'll report it to discord

[vocal shard]

do that @outer hare

[outer hare]

And if you want to know the person who are the mods i can pm their tag

[vocal shard]

@summer sage yeah, but it could be that, ur mic is to silent in the VRC settings 😄

so ur ava reacts but they cant hear u

go to settings, than look at microphone

[faint skiff]

Your avatar won't react if you're muted in game.

[vocal shard]

not muted XD

wait look at #vrchat-pictures

[faint skiff]

Ah, the volume set to almost nothing

[vocal shard]

if his mic level is to low, his ava reacts but nobody can hear him. ur just extremly nothing

my volume is pretty down, because my mic is realy loud 😄

[summer sage]

i'm a extreme nothingness :-:

[errant hare]

I have my volume maxed out yet quiet ingame :/

[onyx stone]

Check your microphone settings

[rare jackal]

im really sorry if this question is over asked, i just can't seem to find the answer anywhere and I would really appreciate a point in the right direction or some help. Copying and pasting a YT link into video players does not work for me, and I'm not sure how to get videos to play in worlds

[covert blade]

@rare jackal Try a different world

[rare jackal]

i have tried at least 10 worlds :/

[covert blade]

Some video players are broken

[rare jackal]

i see, that's too bad

[covert blade]

Did you copy just the URL or any extra stuff like playlist?

[rare jackal]

just the URL

[vocal shard]

Quick Question!

Is an AMD A10-9700 with GTX 1050Ti Suitable for VR on the Rift S

[errant hare]

@vocal shard Your system should run VR games but performance won't be great

Does you video card have dp?

[vocal shard]

DisplayPort : Yes

[errant hare]

Should be fine. Did you measure you ipd?

[vocal shard]

ipd?

[errant hare]

Distance between your eyes

[vocal shard]

nope...

hold on

[errant hare]

Rift S only has software adjustment and it is recommended for ppl with ipd between 58 to 72 or somewhere around those values*

[rare jackal]

@covert blade i just wanted to say thank you! i did figure out the issue. copying and pasting from google chrome didn't work so i tried internet explorer and it worked 😄

[errant hare]

The closer to 64mm the better

[covert blade]

Lol

[vocal shard]

my internet

yeah, pretty sure I meet that

my eyes are average distance

hang on tho

can't find rulers hahaha

(I am not funny, at all)

what's the ipd requirement for Vive?

[errant hare]

Chances are your ipd is within those limits but its best to measure it

[vocal shard]

yeah

[errant hare]

Dunno but I think it doesnt really matter, it has wide range

[vocal shard]

yeah

might get vive

[errant hare]

because you can't find the ruler? 😄

[vocal shard]

yes lmao

It was a joke

[jaunty fog]

can i get updated on current SDK version? ive been using preety old ver for long time and want to finally update it

[errant hare]

Vive may be a good option if you want full body tracking in the future

[vocal shard]

Yeah, FBT seems fun

but my real question is can you do FBT in VRChat

[rancid flame]

yes

[errant hare]

Perhaps it will also run better on your system since it has less pixels

[faint skiff]

Not sure their system will handle it well. That CPU is well below the minimum specs for VR AFAIK.

[errant hare]

VRC is one of few games it has use, I only know VRC and there is one medieval theme game where you fight with swords and other weapons

Is it? It's 4 core cpu with 3.5 GHz base clock from 2016

[faint skiff]

Your CPU vs the minimum recommended CPU for VR - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Core-i5-4570-vs-AMD-A10-9700/1896vs2900

Yes, but it's a garbage AMD APU with bad IPC.

It's about 50% slower than the recommended Intel CPU (which is also quad-core).

[errant hare]

oh shoot

[vocal shard]

I'm back! [I had to restart the discord client (and my network adapter) because I was having problems connecting to discord]

and is there a limit to the amount of Vive base stations you can have at once??

yup

4max

[errant hare]

It was 4 I believe

[vocal shard]

huh

if u want to use more then 4. the overs wont work ^^

[faint skiff]

2 if it's the 1st gen, 4 officially if it's second gen (16 unofficially).

[vocal shard]

but why should u need 16? xD

4 is more then enough 😄

[faint skiff]

Covering a very large area or different rooms.

[vocal shard]

yeah

[quick eagle]

anyone playing atm ??

[vocal shard]

but then u have to get a realy long cable or the Wifi adapter 😄

[vocal shard]

I was thinking of a 9 Base Station System [It looks terrible cuz I made it quickly in MS Paint lmao] https://gyazo.com/bc0c91dac725b9c4d2abe56b84c5bc77

but that is the theory

Thoughts?

[rancid flame]

I havent kept up with vrchat for a while, but has there been any word on native vrm support yet?

[faint skiff]

@vocal shard I mean, that would cost over £1000 in base-stations alone, lol

[vocal shard]

i know

[faint skiff]

@rancid flame Native VRM support?

[rancid flame]

https://vrm.dev/

its a 3d model file format specifically made for virtual youtubers and vr.
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/support-for-vrm-3d-humanoid-avatar-format-for-vr

I saw this thread a while ago. but I havent heard anything since

but its a super cool file format which would make dynamic bones obsolete along with a ton of other stuff

[vocal shard]

ok

[zinc scaffold]

Does anyone know the good jumpscare map on vrcbaf

[vocal shard]

i know some good jumpscare world who shit the f*ck out of me XD

[vestal pier]

vrcbaf

[nova sentinel]

how to make good friends! step 1: build courage to talk if your shy or something number 2: Have fun with your new friends lol

I got friends by keeping my mic on and playing geometry dash tbh lol

[chilly bone]

nice haha

[vocal shard]

i got friend by keeping my mic on while i played Piano Tiles or heared music 😄

[nova sentinel]

Lol

[shut tinsel]

is it worth buying a vr set to play? cuz i just play keyboard atm

[pseudo basalt]

Depends on what you want to do with it

And if vrchat is the only game you plan on playing

And what PC you have

[shut tinsel]

well im getting a new PC for Christmas, or very very likely

sooo thats an unpredictable factor

and VRChat is the only VR game i own atm, so

im considering it mostly cuz a local store is selling a full VR set, different types/brands, at prices between £270 and £400

including an HTC vive i think

[hollow patio]

all wolfboys are bad avatars change my mind

[stable halo]

I agree

[shell zinc]

a good male avatar, where?

[stable halo]

Non-existent

[hollow patio]

take a look

[shut tinsel]

as opposed to what, wolfgirls?

[hollow patio]

Wolfgirls are bad too

[shut tinsel]

at least the wolfboys have clothes

[shell zinc]

not all of them

[hollow patio]

most wolfboy-wolfboy(eboy-egirl) are erping assholes

imagine erping on vrchat

[molten gale]

jeez

calm down

[molten gale]

Aaaaaa

[warped creek]

I would need to see it again.

I only saw Paci once in Yuiko's Rock.

[faint skiff]

@shell zinc Meeeeeee

[shell zinc]

wha

oh yeah, you're right

[molten gale]

When I uh wanted to take the second pic I forgot I was muted >~>

I needed to take another because I forgot to activate shaders

Y-Yea

[faint skiff]

@shell zinc Wait, did I show you my human form avatar? I can't remember if you guys saw it or not now.

[molten gale]

I mean I have a good pic with you now

[shell zinc]

ive seen it @faint skiff is good, but so is your main, vv good

[molten gale]

Its just that I cant handle a lot of people unless I know some people there

[faint skiff]

@shell zinc Aww thanks. I couldn't remember as our meeting was so brief, but that's good. I only thought about it as I rarely use it these days. The community meetup today was the first time I've used it possibly since I saw you.

[molten gale]

But how am I supposed to do that

I wanted to join the meetup but there was barely anyone interesting there tjis week

[shell zinc]

@faint skiff i saw it the day we met at japan shrine, i liked it but made a comment about it being the base model used by someone i do not like at all, besides that all your stuffs are great, and i miss you btw

[faint skiff]

Ahh. And aww. I'll be sure to join on you when we're both next on then. Assuming I don't end up spending allll day in the editor again.

[shell zinc]

i can always join you, too ^^ i just get shy hahah

[faint skiff]

😛

[molten gale]

But yeah how am I supposed to join you so early hystero

I always rely on sasha to invite me

@vocal shard

[snow wadi]

Hys I waved and hugged you at meet up last night but you wooshed.

[molten gale]

I need a reply I gtg in a few mins

Thats possible

Or I could friend you if you dont mind me doing so >~>

Ik thats why I ask

[snow wadi]

I owe you a giant hug next time hys.

[molten gale]

So I guess thats a no qwq

[snow wadi]

I ish expert birb, you'll be fine!

[molten gale]

Well Ill try asking again another time >~>

I have to go now, baiii

[undone hamlet]

To this day I do not understand why people have extremely personal convos in busy public worlds.

[shell zinc]

openness, i suppose

[undone hamlet]

Yeah but when they get all mad about other people butting in, they should really think about take the convo to a private world.

[shell zinc]

ah, just like when people are in friends+ and then yell at people they dont recognise, always hate that

[ruby burrow]

Mhmm. I've seen that just occasionally. Seems really rather strange to just act that way, when they're highly likely to be a friend of one of their own friends.

[wary coral]

oof

[glass venture]

heyo

[fleet raven]

Hey guys I'm having a really annoying problem. For some reason In unity I'm getting lines all over my baked texture

[crystal fossil]

I should go to one of the meetups/events at some point. I'm on hiatus rn though. Like most of the events. eks dee

[hollow coral]

i discovered lego sans and i am happy

[summer sage]

And there is my perscription lenses for the oculus ordered

[dawn pecan]

Sounds good! Planning the same

I'm done with scratching my vive with my glasses lol

[summer sage]

I dont want to pay like 50 bucks to replace the lenses after 1 week

[hollow sluice]

I am lucky I still see farely well without glasses

@dawn pecan doesnt the vive have space for glasses?

I know you can extend the display out so your glasses fit inside

[dawn pecan]

You can, but the closer to your face, the better things look and such

It took me a year to get a scratch, so you're probably safe unless you have big glasses or move around a lot, but yeah

[summer sage]

i can see stuff without glasses but if i look at a monitor or the phone without it my eyes tears up and it wont stop crying

[dawn pecan]

It's too blurry for me without glasses, but it feels much nicer, so I'm happy that I can order lenses

[summer sage]

i cant handle normal lenses lmao i would just forget it heck i already fall asleep with my glasses on

[vocal shard]

Hello anyone alive here?...

[hollow sluice]

Nope

I am in school

So pretty much as dead as I cen be

[vocal shard]

Off

okay

[summer sage]

i am slightly alive but i have to flee to get some coffee and pretend i have a good life before i go to work

[vocal shard]

oh

[summer sage]

ya e_bag is a booly

[thick light]

hiiii frends

i not espeak ingles

[civic plume]

what version of post process is supported for vrchat?

[slender mason]

o-o hyy spiderman

XDDD

[civic plume]

?

huh

[thick light]

@slender mason oii eu falo em portuques

sorry

[slender mason]

there is #portuguese channel

you can talk there ;3

[thick light]

ou obrigado mano

sorry sorry

[slender mason]

no problem Miranha 😄

[dawn pecan]

Spaceman I think people use the "Post processing stack v2" which can probably be found if you check the channel pins or search for "post processing" in the discord

[hollow sluice]

@civic plume

[gloomy pine]

any thoughts on this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTLYas0lkis

Using playstation 3 eye camera for full-body tracking

[umbral reef]

It works and thats it

[gloomy pine]

looks like it could be better than kinect

since you are using 6 sided cubes, so you get the real orientation

[umbral reef]

From what im seeing nah

The tracking itself seems lower rate

[gloomy pine]

this camera i cheap tho, think ill try it, kinect needed soldering and was a hassle

[hollow coral]

waiting for vr to become sao mode

[civic plume]

v2 works with 2017?

i thought it didnt

[umbral reef]

Sao being the goal everyone wants in VR just makes me sad
Can be so much better

[dawn pecan]

Last I heard, it worked, but Unity is updating again soon, right? I'm not quite up to date on it anymore

[umbral reef]

Next update will be a 2018 unity change

[dawn pecan]

But I still see post-processing in worlds, so it's not entirely fucked (outside of beta, at least)

[hollow coral]

why

i dont mean literally sao i mean like have it become that realistic

[civic plume]

the sdk shits itself when i try to upload avatar with the thing

[umbral reef]

Then better get ready for a long ass wait

[pseudo basalt]

Some people already live in vrchat basically disregarding their irl selves

[hollow coral]

thats sad

[pseudo basalt]

And VR isn't even that advanced yet

[covert blade]

Which you shouldnt do

[hollow coral]

tbh i felt like that for a little while when i started

i got decreased interest in real life things

not anymore tho

vice versa

[pseudo basalt]

Well if you're lonely and sad you're more likely to use it as escapism

Which is better than alcohol or other vices

[hollow coral]

as long as you take time off

[pseudo basalt]

Thought it screws you over in a different way instead

[hollow coral]

it makes me really sick if i use it too much

[civic plume]

im gonna take my pants off, i need full brain power. please someone go to #user-support-old. there is a photo

what are the dimensions of the vrchat thumbnail? (when uploading avatars)

[pseudo basalt]

667x500 according to website thumbnails

[civic plume]

thanks dear

[pseudo basalt]

thought that's a weird number

[summer sage]

im gonna use it as an escape instead of being drunk every other day so dunno, RL is just depressing anyway cant even check the news without seeing x amounts of bombs has exploded in x city here in sweden everyday

[civic plume]

idk what your talking about

oh

[summer sage]

then u are probably not reading the news if you're a swede

[civic plume]

wait i get you bro

i dont watch the news my guy, its always bad news lmao

[vocal shard]

is the vive pro worth $1000

or more

[hollow sluice]

No lol

The index is cheaper and better

[errant hare]

If you want Vive Pro get Valve Index

[hollow sluice]

Yes

[vocal shard]

fair enough

does VRChat make use of the individual finger tracking yet?

on the index controllers

[stoic halo]

yes

[vocal shard]

:D

I can't wait 😉

[errant hare]

Is there any use of Index finger tracking other than having an ability to flip someone?

[vocal shard]

no, that's WHY you get the valve index in the first place

that is WHY they made that finger tracking

although you* could * crush someone's head because of the pressure sensors too

😄

[errant hare]

I think it is because they wanted games to change. Someone has to make a move first though so they had to create finger tracking so developers could actually start developing game that uses it

[summer sage]

Yes and be able to do 👉 👌

[vocal shard]

Oh for fu..

[summer sage]

[hollow coral]

hello

are there any good games in vrchat

[vocal shard]

depends on your personal preference

[summer sage]

If karaoke is a game i highly suggest it

[vocal shard]

I recommend rainy room or whatever the f*ck its called

[hollow sluice]

90% are social games. The game is not really for gameplay

[hollow coral]

rainy room isnt a game tho unless im thinking of the wrong one

[summer sage]

Would you rather

[hollow sluice]

Room of rain has games in it

[summer sage]

Yes

[hollow coral]

im thinkking of the small room

[slender mason]

the one with tennis is awesome try that

[hollow coral]

thats like an apartment or somethin its raining and its super small

[hollow sluice]

Like beerpong, spin the bottle...

[slender mason]

i for one had tons of fun in tennis room

[hollow coral]

oh thaaat sounds fun

[errant hare]

@slender mason What is it called? Just tennis?

[hollow coral]

doesnt seem to be many people on

[slender mason]

uhmmm i dont really remember precisely...

[hollow coral]

i encountered some koreans

[slender mason]

search for tennis tho...or arcade

[hollow coral]

and japanese i think

[errant hare]

Ok will try

[slender mason]

something like that...as those are gaming rooms

^-^

[blazing crown]

We release a minecraft map in vrchat today. You can break everything and build houses

[hollow coral]

noice

[errant hare]

Oh no wait, I can't play tennis in VR I gonna keep hitting stuff :/

[hollow coral]

besides vr chat

[errant hare]

Remember playing superhot I punched stuff in my room many times while punching enemies

[slender mason]

XDDD

[zinc scaffold]

Ouch my nephew punched the table while playing beat saber as i kept telling him to back up but bam just happened

[pale timber]

👍

[zinc scaffold]

Ha ha ha shush rin

[pale timber]

bruh don't say that here

[warm mortar]

Client users are so obnixous to deal with

[inner cape]

whats so obnoxious in blocking

[hollow sluice]

maybe that they can crash you even before you find out they use a client?

you cant really block that can you?

[inner cape]

yes you can 😎

[vocal shard]

good morining

[native valve]

its not morning

now its only 15:54

[vocal shard]

thats morning for me XD

i always wake up like 13:00 or 14:00 (1pm or 2pm)

[native valve]

XD

[broken plover]

thats when I can go home after school

except on tuesday and thursday

[vocal shard]

well i have more then enough time to sleep :D
i have some reasons why ^^

[vocal shard]

Hello there! Just got a VR set for black friday and I love it! Looking forward to meeting some cool people here :3

[slender mason]

congratz Birb!! :3 enjoy

[empty flint]

owo

[brazen fossil]

yay birb !! :]

[cerulean jacinth]

i just pre-ordered valve index and 3 tracker, but i want to have blue trust status before I get my VR Wares

what is the conditions to be a excellent status?

[covert blade]

@cerulean jacinth Play the game

[cerulean jacinth]

ok how much?

[covert blade]

Unspecific

[cerulean jacinth]

i plaied like 6 hours without doing anything but walking lol

[vocal shard]

Speaking of the index - does VR chat support the index controllers? i.e. with the finger "tracking"?

[covert blade]

Play more

[broken plover]

yes @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

ah, amazing

[cerulean jacinth]

lol

[vocal shard]

I still can't decide which headset to upgrade to T_T

[broken plover]

if you got the money get the index headset

[vocal shard]

I really want an index, but... I need eye tracking -_-

Which VR Headset is best for my PC?

CPU - AMD A10-9700 [3.8GHz]
Graphics - EVGA GTX 1050Ti
RAM - 8GB DDR4 RAM
Drive - 1TB Hard Drive

Creepa

[cerulean jacinth]

well, as i know. the Valve Index and the Pimax 8kx is the best options

[vocal shard]

and the only headset that supports it natively is the Pro Eye T_T

[errant hare]

@vocal shard Best headset for your PC is Oculus Quest cos your PC doesn't have to do anything to run it :>

[broken plover]

yeah... If you can afford it and you really need it, then go for it. The screen is actually pretty good because its OLED and high res

[vocal shard]

The Index? Or Pro Eye?

[broken plover]

Pro eye

[cerulean jacinth]

isn't pro eye just a Vive Pro with eye tracker?

[broken plover]

the index unfortunately only got LCD screens... so for some people the perfect vr setup would be vive pro with index controllers

[vocal shard]

Basically, yeah

and yeah, that's true

@errant hare Would Rift S work

I could just get the index controllers

[cerulean jacinth]

but the problem with HTC's Headsets

they use Pentile.

[vocal shard]

tbh I just wanted to stick some cool little LED matrix in the frunk 😅

[covert blade]

The Vive Pro is stupidly expensive though

[errant hare]

@vocal shard We talked about it yesterday, your cpu may be underpowered

[vocal shard]

ok

Doesn't matter when your PhD funding is paying for it 😂

[cerulean jacinth]

damn

[vocal shard]

And yeah.. good and bad things about both display I guess

[cerulean jacinth]

in that purposes, Vive Pro has Commercial Licensed for it

[vocal shard]

I heard that the index doesn't have very deep blacks cause of the LCD screen?

[cerulean jacinth]

yep i heard that too, that it has really bad Black Uniformity

[errant hare]

@vocal shard also the gtx 1050ti you have is more of an entry level gaming* video card for "regular" gaming, it will run VR games but performance won't be great

[vocal shard]

I mean technically speaking, you never actually see true 000 black in real life though, so I wonder how much of an issue it actually is

(but I do play a lot of Elite so.. the blacks are kinda important 😅)

[cerulean jacinth]

the problem of lcd is

[rough pulsar]

Not even the OLED panels go to perfect black since the 0-colour power up time causes smearing, so they run at just barely powered up to fix that.

[cerulean jacinth]

i might see a grey and blooming lights when it should be black

even burning Red tones when it's really bad lol

[vocal shard]

guess it's kinda like when you see black on a monitor?

[errant hare]

@vocal shard yuuup

[vocal shard]

it looks black comparatively, next to everything on-screen, but

it's not actually black because of the backlight?

[cerulean jacinth]

yep

[rough pulsar]

When the Index came out there was a lot of bitching about black levels and a good chunk of that was because of a SteamVR bug that carried the Vive colour correction profile over.

[cerulean jacinth]

but led get bright it self, without backlights

[vocal shard]

Hmm I feel like I really need to use both to see what's gonna work best

[cerulean jacinth]

so like AM-OLED want to show you black

it can just turn off the light

[vocal shard]

Wonder if there's anywhere you can rent an index from 🤔

god damn I can't type when my hands are cold xD

my university has a pro-eye, so testing that won't be a problem

@vocal shard well ur CPU isnt realy good for VR :X
and 8gb ram isnt enough for VR

[broken plover]

wdym 8gb is enough

[wet tinsel]

guys what are the

[faint skiff]

@cerulean jacinth But as Gallium said, OLED panels don't go actual black on VR because power-up-time results in black smearing.

[vocal shard]

16gb is recomended for VR 😄

[wet tinsel]

guys what are the effects called where they put you in another world

[vocal shard]

Yeah, what @vocal shard said
tbh you don't really pick a VR headset based on the spec of your PC (maybe outside of the resolution of the displays, but.. even then..)

8gb ram is not enough, i have 12gb ram. and many games eat 10gb

[broken plover]

recommended doesnt mean anything else will not work

[vocal shard]

yeah

[faint skiff]

@rough pulsar My controllers are starting to drift too now, to add to my other Index issues. My friends started drifting the other day too and it's doing it so badly that it's basically unusable. It's his second return too 😦

[broken plover]

I have 8gb and I have never had any problems

[vocal shard]

my graphic is under the minimum specs of VRC, but i still can play it XD

[cerulean jacinth]

yep, and VR OLED Panels.. so HTC VIVE Pro .. has Pentile Screen so it has not worth for it's resolutions

[vocal shard]

never buy a vive pro lol

[cerulean jacinth]

so i think OLED Panel on VR is kinda stupid

[vocal shard]

its costs 1199€ and the Index just 1000€ XD

[faint skiff]

Why not? Vive Pro is a decent headset.

[vocal shard]

tbh the only reason I'm considering the vive pro is cause of the eye tracking

[faint skiff]

That's an issue with the price, not the headset. Second hand for cheap would make it good.

[vocal shard]

pro eye*

so its recomended to buy the Index and not the Vive Pro 😄

[cerulean jacinth]

if i want to buy expensive headset without Index, i would buy Pimax

[vocal shard]

HTC is to expensive for nothing 😄

[cerulean jacinth]

the problem with Vive Pro is bad screen for the price and lower fov than index or pimax

[vocal shard]

yeah

[faint skiff]

Pimax has it's own flurry of issues though

[cerulean jacinth]

and the problem with pimax is you can't get one

[vocal shard]

if i would buy a High end VRheadset i would buy the Index not the Vive pro

yeah, pimax has resolution/fov and.. that's about it tbh 😅

[cerulean jacinth]

and yeah, has really bad QC

[broken plover]

its made of the cheapest plastic. Some people say you cant have it for 2 weeks without it falling apart

[inner cape]

vive pro is a unit for corporations, especially the eye version

[vocal shard]

but the index is way better then the Vive 🤷

oh, I already enquired about buying it - no problems there

and its cheaper then the Vive xD

it's for an AHRC funded PhD, so there's no problem with me getting hold of the pro eye 🤷‍♂️

it's just a case of whether I should

[cerulean jacinth]

is VRChat Supports Eye Tracking?

[vocal shard]

eye tracking is the main feature that I'm after

not as far as I know

nope VRChat dont supprt it 😄

[cerulean jacinth]

since you have one, you might can join the development team lol

[broken plover]

but if vrc doesnt support eye tracking then why do you want a headset with eye tracking?

[vocal shard]

yeah XD

[cerulean jacinth]

because his college bought one for him

[vocal shard]

only 1% of the VRGames use eye tracking

using eye tracking to analyse people reactions to photo-realistic human likenesses

[cerulean jacinth]

really?

1%? i thought it was 0

[vocal shard]

nah 😄

we've got a full performance capture rig with the facial capture setup and everything

its a Cinema app for VR where u can use Eye tracking

but its useless there as well XD

This kinda thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCICGJhfjM0

i defently recomend the Index :D
the vive Pro has a bad screen, not a realy good support, it feels realy cheap es well

the Index has way better controllers and u can use all Vive thinks like full body, at there too 😄

[faint skiff]

Have you used a Vive Pro? "Bad screen" is not something I've heard as one of the complaints..

[errant hare]

Me neither

[faint skiff]

Also the Valve Index controllers have an incredibly high failure rate.

[broken plover]

Isnt the screen actually one of the better ones?

[vocal shard]

@broken plover idk how to say it in english, but the resulution is way lower then ofthe index

[errant hare]

Vive Pro may have more noticable screen door but its not bad

[vocal shard]

and the FOV is lower

[cerulean jacinth]

i meant for the price

[faint skiff]

Vive Pro is 1440 x 1600 per eye, the same as the index.

[cerulean jacinth]

because of pentile, it has lower ppi than index, and lower fovd

[faint skiff]

(but the Index is technically higher as pentile OLED lowers the resolution somewhat, technically)

[vocal shard]

a youtuber said other specs of it.
he said which Headset he recomand to buy for chrismas etc.

the Index has a LCD screen, but a better resulution 🤷

[faint skiff]

Ah yes, "YouTubers". The absolute source of all accurate information.

[errant hare]

but their res is the same -,-

[broken plover]

^

[faint skiff]

That is technically true, but the way you worded it made it sound much worse

[cerulean jacinth]

i think if there was Vive pro without Commercial License and with Lower Price. it would be better

[vocal shard]

pretty sure there is now though

the vive isnt a bad headset

but if u wanna buy a expensive Headset buy the Index 🤷

[faint skiff]

Which is why you recommend a second hand Vive Pro, not a new one.

[vocal shard]

yep

like i do, i bought a oculus Rift on secound hand 😄

now im gonna buy the Quest New.
and then a new PC

[cerulean jacinth]

yeah but since i saw people having sex with VRChat, i never gonna buy second handed vr wares

[vocal shard]

XD

[errant hare]

[broken plover]

just clean it

[vocal shard]

im glad to be in germany XD

if someone sells somthings, he must clean it 😄

[faint skiff]

One of my first days in VRChat, a conversation I walked into were two friends arguing about one of the friends using the other one's Vive controllers as a sex aid.

[vocal shard]

uff

thats werid

[errant hare]

Maybe used Vive Pro isn't such a good deal after all

[broken plover]

normal vive is more worth it. Its pretty cheap these days

[faint skiff]

Nah, the resolution on the original Vive is terrible to be honest.

[vocal shard]

well the Quest has the best Resolution at the moment lul

[faint skiff]

... what?

[vocal shard]

but it cant use that good graphics xD

[faint skiff]

It really doesn't.

[vocal shard]

yeah the screen resulution is higher then the normal vive 🤷

and as the normal Rift as well

[broken plover]

Pimax 8k has 3840x2160

[errant hare]

Pimax 8k XR has the highest res out of consumer headsets

[faint skiff]

It's higher than the 4 year old Vive? Yes. How does that make it better than any of the other headsets?

[desert stratus]

its also exactly the same as the index resolutuon

[broken plover]

index, quest and vive pro all have 1440 × 1600

[vocal shard]

ah ok

[faint skiff]

Compared to the Index, it looks a lot lower resolution, I assume due to the screen door and pentile arrangement.

[vocal shard]

well the only bad thing at the Quest is. it cant use realy good graphics

[errant hare]

but it can now

[faint skiff]

No, that's definitely not the only bad thing about it.

[vocal shard]

yeha with PC

the quest is a pretty good Stand alone VR headset

[faint skiff]

It's heavy, uncomfortable, the headphones are the worst I've ever heard, the screen-door is extreme, battery life is only 2 hours, the cable is in an awkward location if you use it while wired, it gets very hot, etc, etc.

[vocal shard]

as i said

its a stand alone

u cant realy compare it with PC VR

[faint skiff]

You can when all of it's users insist on doing so

[vocal shard]

Because the Quest is doing everything insode the headset the PC VR not

the PC VR is way much better. and it will be better for all time

even the PS VR looks terrible

everything looks better on PC 🤷

[wide cove]

PC VR and standalone VR are 2 completely seporate categories imo

[lunar cedar]

You say ps VR looks terrible like it's surprising

It's console, ofc it's terrible quality

[vocal shard]

yeah

[wide cove]

technically the quest could be considered a console if you really think about it

[vocal shard]

yeah

u cant compere PS, Stand alone and PC

the PC is way fast then any PS or Stand alone

[wide cove]

standalone vr vs pc vr is like console gaming vs pc gaming, they belong in 2 different categories, each with its own advantages

[vocal shard]

yeah

im gonna buy the Quest for VR without PC
for PC i have my Rift XD

[lunar cedar]

Well, console has no advantage. It just makes all VR look bad

[vocal shard]

true

[wide cove]

i have WMR because i already have a gaming pc and im kinda too poor for anything else on top of it

[broken plover]

google cardboard makes vr look bad

[vocal shard]

XD

WMR isnt bad at all

[summer sage]

Wdym google cardboard is the shit

[lunar cedar]

Idk, they literally called it "cardboard". If that doesn't lower expectations, idk what does

[wide cove]

tbh tracking could be better @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

yeah

[broken plover]

theres people that use the daydream or the samsung gearvr and think they tried actual vr

[vocal shard]

thats why i bought the Old rift for my PC 😄

it has a realy good tracking

[wide cove]

my samsung odyssey was the nicest i could afford

rift was just out of my budget

[vocal shard]

just good 3 or 4 of these sensors and ur good to go 😄

[broken plover]

I could only afford a medion erazer... (lenovo explorer but in blue)

[wide cove]

and i got a really good deal on it at the time, $200 for a used samsung odyssey

back jn like august

[broken plover]

but I'm switching to a vive soon because of the lighthouse tracking

[vocal shard]

index has the same

[broken plover]

but too expensive

[vocal shard]

yeah

1000€ is realy expesnive

but a vive coast 599€ °O°

[broken plover]

I'll get a used vive from ebay

[wide cove]

arent used vives like 350 USD

[vocal shard]

even if u buy it secound hand ur gonna buy it for about 300-400€

[broken plover]

and new vr covers. I'm not gonna use used face paddings

[vocal shard]

@wide cove nop

[broken plover]

thats literally 300-400

[wide cove]

if its leather you just have to disinfect it and it should be fine

@broken plover euro vs usd

[broken plover]

its not that big of a difference tho

[vocal shard]

1€ is like 1.73USD

[lunar cedar]

Careful Nico, used lighthouses are pretty sketchy.

[broken plover]

1€ is 1,10US$

[vocal shard]

1.10USD = 1€

[velvet iris]

1 like = 1 prayer

[wide cove]

@vocal shard im seeing them for like 350USD used on ebay

back when i bought my oddysey, rifts were like $270 used

[faint skiff]

Yeah, I'm selling my full Vive kit to a friend for £250 which is about the going price these days, but I'm selling it a bit cheap given that it's got the DAS too.

[cerulean jacinth]

anyway, if is there anyone want to help me getting trust level, add me as friend please:)
It's WATARAI and i don't have any mic and vr wares yet

i will get my index like in 2weeks but i want to be a User level before i get my index

[wide cove]

oh nice, my vrchat is the same as my discord username

[cerulean jacinth]

sent 🙂 the one with red public anime girl

[snow wadi]

[pale timber]

the gap from user and known is huge

[lunar cedar]

Indeed

[faint skiff]

Backing up your world before making big changes is painful... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302253768933376/648565576586756147/unknown.png

Nearly half a million files :/

[lunar cedar]

Start learning git

[faint skiff]

Not designed for binary files, of which worlds are 99%

[lunar cedar]

Git with LFS does just fine with them. Not amazingly, but for sure better than file copy backup.

[pliant ermine]

Where am I?

[idle elm]

You don't need to back up your Library like that.

It's likely where most of the file count comes from.

https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/master/Unity.gitignore

That's the Git Ignore I use for my projects.

[summer sage]

A Wild chat mod has appeared

[warm flint]

Is there a max size for an avatar?

[ruby needle]

yes

unless you cheat with a wrong bounding box

[wet tinsel]

your family is in my basement, I require mac and cheese + oculus rift s to set them free

[faint skiff]

@ruby needle Even then it doesn't work does it? It says "Max shoulder height - 5.5m" so the bounding box doesn't come into play there.

[ruby needle]

i dunno, giant's exists so something works to bypass it at least

[faint skiff]

5.5m is pretty huge to be honest. I have one avatar at max size and one and min size and the max one's head touches the roof in the Black Cat.

[covert blade]

There's a max size?

[broken plover]

yes

[covert blade]

Wat

I swear I have seen almost world sized bounding boxes on avatars and Attack On Titan sized avatars

[broken plover]

if the bounding box is too big your avatar will be

[slender mason]

i agree that those very big sized avatars can actually make you crash...

[covert blade]

But I'm happy with my 2.5x larger version of my avatar

Giant for most people, but still small enough to fit into most rooms

If not, I have full body I can just sit

[indigo fern]

😂

[warped creek]

I have seen an avatar that was ~160 meters tall.

Even my almost 30 meters tall avatar felt tiny compared to it.

But then I have an avatar that doesn't have any special effects aside from being able to fly and its bound size is 10 kilometers in each way for some reason.

And it's actual size is less than 1 meter.

[covert blade]

Huh

[crystal fossil]

Could be cloth. Could be a hidden object. Could be VRC stats bugging out again.

I have one giant still on my account and I think her scale was set to 1000. I have a world that's just an entire city to scale and she's fun to take out so people can find me.

[vocal shard]

was playing and some rando shot(?) me with something and I started to lag out, and saw blue, then the VR void.

What was that :v

[crystal fossil]

My bound box being bigger just determines how far you have to look away in order to no longer be rendering me. I'm just like any other avatar of normal scale, silly.

[ruby burrow]

I've still got an old 555 meter tall Kanna uploaded, from back just before new years.

At that size the the menu becomes 100% impossible to use, forcing you to use a keyboard shortcut to reset to a default avatar to escape being it.

It also just falls off the edge of over 90% of worlds with the slightest head tilt. A wide open space like The Box is like trying to stand on a playing card.

@vocal shard That's what happens when some low life deliberately de-optimizes something on their avatar to the point that it crashes the game. Report them if you're able to get a chance to. If you see someone do it to anyone else and are confident it was deliberate, disable their avatar first to have time to calmly report.

If you get crashed yourself, you can also check your game logs and email them to the devs to report that way. Can see #moderation-reports for instructions how.

[vocal shard]

okay, thank you!

good night

[covert blade]

gn8

[strong gazelle]

is the vrchat 2018 sdk available?

[nova sentinel]

I f'd up my leg soo bad today lol

[faint skiff]

Finally out of Community Labs at 1200 visits. Geez.

[errant hare]

Gratz

[nova sentinel]

Lol\

[untold fjord]

how is everyone doing? (Good i hope 😉 )

[summer sage]

tired but ok i guess ^^ hbu?

[untold fjord]

not bad my friend, not bad at all, thx for asking

[vocal shard]

Am also good.

Gonna dive back into VRchat and see if I can't make any cool friends.

[undone hamlet]

So apparently... I'm toxic for minding my own business and being mute.

[vocal shard]

:v

Is there something against mute people in VR?

[summer sage]

i dont think so

[vocal shard]

I don't speak for personal reasons.

hoping I can still have a good time tho

[undone hamlet]

Apparently there is according to this "trusted" user

[summer sage]

this trusted system is just weird asf imo

[hollow musk]

oculus or vive?

[undone hamlet]

Well hopefully that'll be the only time I'll encounter someone like that. That's just dumb that they would think that way.

[ruby needle]

Asking in one channel is enogh @hollow musk

[vocal shard]

Mmm. Why was it rude to them, I just don't get that.

[blazing anchor]

R.I.P. The box lol

[undone hamlet]

I ain't crying over that cesspool of a world.

[rigid crescent]

oh no a square

nothing wrong with the world, it's the potatoes that flock to it

[tame berry]

Meowweeeowwweeeowww

Sup peeps

[wide cove]

owo

[vocal shard]

what was the box?

[errant hare]

Simple box shaped world

[gentle prawn]

hi

[vocal shard]

That's it?

Just a big old box?

[rigid crescent]

yyyup

people seemed to think they lagged less in it despite always rendering every model at all times

[errant hare]

and since they most often had mirror enabled they were rendering every model twice

[vocal shard]

oh jeez.

so what world should I check out?

What's the most poppin world?

[undone hamlet]

Atoll of Ether is a great world though it's not as popular.

Kinda glad it's not tbh

[vocal shard]

hmmm, is it in the World's tab?

How would I find it?

[faint skiff]

It's normally in popular, but there's a search button in the top right

[vocal shard]

Ah.

I've just been hanging in the Black Cat, it's pretty fun.

[twin fractal]

Hit or miss tbh

[vocal shard]

why is that?

[twin fractal]

Sometimes you'll find a great crowd, other times it's pretty awful ime

[undone hamlet]

Black Cat's aight, just that it's full of Mirror people most of the time.

[twin fractal]

I guess you could say that about any world to an extent tho..

I still go to black cat pretty often

[undone hamlet]

Crowd there has been more toxic than the people I've seen in AoE

[summer sage]

never understood why people always stand by the mirrors

feels so bland

[undone hamlet]

To look at their avatar for whatever reason.

[summer sage]

literally

[undone hamlet]

I tried and I got bored in like 5 mins

[pseudo basalt]

people just sit there for hours talking

gives you something to look at

nobody sits in front of a mirror and keeps quiet or doesn't interesant somehow

[summer sage]

well yeah at least in the rainy room they just sit and look into the mirror in silence

[pseudo basalt]

probably petting each other or something at least

[undone hamlet]

Usually the mirror crowds I've encountered are fairly toxic.

[hardy scaffold]

Hey guys in new to Vrchat

[undone hamlet]

Welcome

[ruby needle]

hello, i'd be nice to take a read into #rules before starting your journeyi n this discord

[pseudo basalt]

mirror crowds are super common

but then again i would probably avoid them in public too unless it's a map kinda focused on one

[summer sage]

would be itneressting to see what they gather around if they remove mirrors from all the basic maps

or if people makes mirror avatars to please others

[pseudo basalt]

nah, not worth it

they'd just make new box

and it will be the most popular map

[faint skiff]

I made a new world with no mirrors. It had many complaints.

All of which were "where's the mirror" 😛

[pseudo basalt]

Mirrors are useful

No point in shaking your cane at the kids and their mirrors

[summer sage]

#RefuseMirrors2k19 protests

[faint skiff]

Not every world needs a mirror, it's become an unhealthy obsession.

[summer sage]

aye

[pseudo basalt]

It has but it's not your fault and you won't be the solution

Need to spread mirror overuse awareness

[summer sage]

add mirror charges daily so u can only watch into a mirror 5 times a day with a 24h timer

[pseudo basalt]

But not just get rid of them because then, quite frankly, your stuff will just not be as popular

kids always staring at their phones these days smh

back in my day I'd spend all night in Gaia night and it had no mirror

now it's dead and a literal empty map with a mirror has been one of the most popular maps for months on end

instead of sperging about mirror use just give people more to do apart from a mirror

and let them choose

nothing is more annoying than being in a nice map and needing to go somewhere else because i just made an avatar and there's an issue with it but i can't clearly see it because no mirror and the camera has the big lense in the center that covers half the screen

[rigid crescent]

yeah people with the mirror stigma really don't think much past "XD u in mirror boi"

It's just that nothing is new or fresh any more, which is understandable completely, there's only so much you can experience before its like "Eh ok", thats why most of my favorite interactions don't come from seeing crazy cool animations or something, because I've seen it all a million times. they're from social interaction. its a social game first bruh

[pseudo basalt]

I've been enjoying not looking at a mirror as much lately, it helps with immersion because I'm not a narcissist in a way, and I'd urge people to look at them less and at each other more because it's a nice experience

but trying to force it will just make you look out of touch

[rigid crescent]

ive really noticed zero difference in my chats with mirrors vs without

except that, without mirrors, its harder to see everyone involved in the conversation

[pseudo basalt]

well I'm mostly one on one

[rigid crescent]

ah that makes more sense then

[pseudo basalt]

so it's nicer to look at the other person

[rigid crescent]

For the people ive spoken with about it, mirrors give a better "sense of self" vs immersion, its really not about anything narcissistic lol

the narcissist thought seems to stem from people thinking WAY too deeply about it

[pseudo basalt]

it is in a way because you end up staying at yourself all the time

it's a bit of a crutch for immersion imo

[faint skiff]

Or maybe because sitting staring into a mirror seems weird rather than standing/sitting around facing other people which is what you'd do IRL?

[pseudo basalt]

it works but not as well as getting used to feeling immersed by just seeing your arms

[rigid crescent]

to me "sense of self" serves to enhance immersion more

[faint skiff]

Not to mention it literally halves my framerate meaning it's less enjoyable in VR

[pseudo basalt]

i think you get used to either eventually

[rigid crescent]

"social norms" even aside from the weirder more sexual stuff are different in VR vs real life

yeah I've got no problems with talks outside of mirror world,s I have them more often than not when it's not chill hangout time

[pseudo basalt]

I've even experienced phatom touch for thr first time like a week ago despite being im vrc for over a year

[rigid crescent]

"winding down from the night" is usually mirror time for me

[pseudo basalt]

you can develop feelings and stuff

[warped thorn]

I can understand being by a mirror when you first get VR. Gotta get used to the "VR body", after all. But after? Eehh...

[pseudo basalt]

mirror time is fine but i think it's important to look at people directly as well

[rigid crescent]

The sense of self definitely serves more purpose than catchall immersion when you've got something like a physical representation

Immersion in something like HL: Alyx vs immersion in a VR social game that has a "you" in it are different concepts

[pseudo basalt]

also i really don't like when people stick to a mirror and don't want to go anywhere anymore while you're exploring

but that doesn't happen as much

because it's mostly when people start joining on friends

[rigid crescent]

For me it's like "Well what else is there to do?" outside of cool experiences like that fun-mirror world, climbing, etc, it's all been done before

[faint skiff]

Anyone have any Unity purchase recommendations now that the sale is on? Finding things that actually work in VRChat is a minefield.

[rigid crescent]

"Wow yeah this is a nice world. It's as nice as the other hundreds I've been to". Every so often there's something cool but not enough to fill the time

[pseudo basalt]

Well my biggest crutch is there mirror perse

it's a mirror in a boring map

like the box

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, when all you wanna do is sit and talk a mirror is fine, and that's what most people who are sitting in mirrors want.

[pseudo basalt]

there's nicer places to stand at a mirror in

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, definitely better ones than the box

[warped thorn]

You've got lemoned too, Enverex? So much stuff that either doesn't work in VR, or is horribly optimized and you wouldn't want to use in the first place...

[faint skiff]

Not yet, but I know that many things don't work because they rely on scripts, etc.

[pseudo basalt]

i don't think people actually go to the box anymore from what I see with my friends

[faint skiff]

That or they do, but fail all the time (e.g. Bakery)

[pseudo basalt]

but rain room is still popular

which gets pretty boring

pretty tired of floating sad room in space maps with comfy in the name

[rigid crescent]

well what's the alternative? overhype war raging in the background with epic music while youre just trying to relax lol

[pseudo basalt]

i personally like outdoor maps

[rigid crescent]

yeah i prefer outdoor stuff too

[faint skiff]

I made what I wanted to see, a big outdoor wood map

[pseudo basalt]

or maps that allow smaller groups to form

[rich crater]

Hi!