Slot it into the material.
#vrchat-general-2
crystal fossil
rigid crescent
You're skipping all the middle steps
crystal fossil
Done. No need to reupload the whole thing.
rigid crescent
WHich are all infinitely easier outside of VR
save for maybe drawing without a pen
tablet pen i mean
crystal fossil
For now. Pretty sure there's 3d model programs for VR.
Just need to be fleshed out.
rigid crescent
"For now" I mean "now" is where we're at...
indigo fern
yall wildin, im goin to bed
crystal fossil
Your argument is a separate one though.
rigid crescent
That avatar dev is still easier in desktop making it a superior format?
or method, whatever
easier and quicker
indigo fern
platform?
rigid crescent
medium? probably a better word
indigo fern
english :noty
crystal fossil
Uh. I think saying that some things you still are forced to take your headset off for is an accurate way of putting the whole thing.
But the things they've worked out that you don't.. ehhh.
rigid crescent
Ah yes, I look forward to removing and removing my headset constantly to make a model
instead of putting it on at the very end
crystal fossil
I mean, you still have to. Just less often with Neos.
rigid crescent
What?...
indigo fern
he's saying for others you dont even have to put the headset on at all
crystal fossil
If your avatars are always perfect on the first try, then congratulations.
indigo fern
like its all desktop until you actually want to play in it
rigid crescent
If i'm making a model on desktop the only point i need to put the headset on is the very end step
crystal fossil
Makes one of us.
indigo fern
the only thing i ever need to test in vr is how it is in fbt
rigid crescent
at no point in blender, gimp, finding art references/assets/whatever else you may need do i need to put on my headset
crystal fossil
At least with Neos, if there's an issue, you can edit it and drag in what needed corrected.
rigid crescent
You get to the Unity portion and you arent putting on the headset til most likely the tail end
Even for the "well you can have others help you in neos work on an avatar at the same time" point, i can do that as well so I NEVER have to put the headset on
crystal fossil
Oh yeah. Did I mention you calibrate for full body in Neos? So it's not really a guessing game.
rigid crescent
"hey clone this real quick and aim the gun/do the animation/whatevr for me"
indigo fern
yea, and someone else can calibrate your stuff for you
crystal fossil
You can just drag the avatar out of your inventory and look at it in third person Neos.
rigid crescent
That's a neat point but it doesn't exactly make up for all the other flaws...
indigo fern
yea, plus its full body itself that has the scuff a lot of the time
crystal fossil
Or someone can just wear the copy you dragged in to test it.
rigid crescent
It's one of those "Haha it would be so cool to do THIS in VR" ideas when really it's still just easier to do in desktop
the idea of it is great, but in the end I'm going to get things done faster and with way less trouble in desktop
crystal fossil
I don't even have to sit at a desk. I can lay back and drag everything to me. I can fly in Neos too, so I don't need to sit up for a menu or a look at a model or anything!
rigid crescent
That could absolutely change in the future, but now, as of this moment, it's just a cool idea that's interested a very niche portion of creators
There's nothing wrong with that, but I'd take the faster and hassle-free option
Since, yknow, i dont wanna wear my headset and wave my arms around all day while im making avatars. i wanna sit at my desk, listen to music, multi-task, etc
umbral reef
Can also do that with a simple animation and avatar cloning?
Also if we really want to see the model in VR while editing it why not use a blender plugin to look at it? (Third person in vrc)
Then you won't even need to use a game and can look at the model+move it around from third person
crystal fossil
So the solution is third party, not built in, so it's better.
indigo fern
๐ค
rigid crescent
it's more like one of the few good points for Neos despite all the negative ones is solved via a third party solution
umbral reef
Blender and unity both allow for a lot of automation, auto* correcting, easier detailing and options for references...
There is a reason vr devs work from a PC and test in vr even though there are tools to dev while in vr
crystal fossil
Why are they developing professional VR gear for devs to use to create with VR.
Stuff that consumers can't even get their hands on.
They create in VR.
umbral reef
Can't we? Guess it's odd I used and seen some of these tools
rigid crescent
gear such as?
umbral reef
@rigid crescent easy example is slapping trackers on you and having an NPC mimic your movements
That's also with that one of the few things that actually handy
But it's often hard to work with. Takes more then one take, a fast animator can do it just as good if not better and cost a fair bit as tracking tech ain't too cheap
rigid crescent
I mean the stuff we can't get our hands on
crystal fossil
The haptic gloves are going to be used professionally for a long time before they make anything a consumer is able to get ahold of.
rigid crescent
What's being made with them, at what speed, etc
I've been meaning to look at that actually, Lakuza said there was a free trial for the tracker mocap stuff
clever crag
The problem is not, that you can't buy them
rigid crescent
There's also a JP user who made something similar for use with the vket world
crystal fossil
Scupts. Things in the realm of Noda and modeling. CAD. Design.
umbral reef
@crystal fossil most high end haptic gloves are research focused and not company...
The ones that aren't can be obtained right now
crystal fossil
I think we're on two different subjects.
The ones that simulate resistance, hot, cold, and pressure?
crystal fossil
I've never heard of them going public.
indigo fern
id probably off myself if i had to work with precise measurements in vr
anything like precision designs need a numpad
rigid crescent
yeah all the sculpting im seeing is dudes making stuff that looks like play-do
clever crag
Just because there is no online shop, does not mean they won't sell it for you.
indigo fern
sculpting is okay in the right hands, yansculpts is just a god tho
crystal fossil
They have keyboard like OVRToolkit. It's not hard to type. xD Besides, I'd like PieInput for VR, tbh.
clever crag
you can't do anything with them, but they will be happy to sell them
umbral reef
They aren't even being used by companies to develop things because we got way easier to use and leaps cheaper options
As I said they get mainly used for research rn
rigid crescent
yeah, send me a message while you're in VR
indigo fern
virtual keyboard monka
rigid crescent
I'll send you 20 fully typed out sentences before you get one out
indigo fern
theyre ok, they work, are they as good? no
rigid crescent
i can type the bee movie script in the time it'd take you to describe a day at work LOL
crystal fossil
It's like learning to text.
umbral reef
And as limetten said, just because it ain't in Amazone doesn't mean you can't get your hands on it
crystal fossil
You get faster.
rigid crescent
except desktop is still superior
I'd be interested in seeing someone who can keep up with a desktop typer while using a virtual keyboard
crystal fossil
Because you've been typing for how long?
rigid crescent
even half the speed honestly
umbral reef
And as for the cad tools. There are expensive as shot ones (reason they don't get used beside in companies) where you can walk around your project. Not live edit as that's an easy way to fuck up a full project or design
indigo fern
phones also have autocorrect and the swiping thing to figure out the words quicker, so its not a 1:1 anyway
crystal fossil
I bet someone that learned pie input would be faster than a keyboard.
rigid crescent
there's limitations, come on now
clever crag
maybe some day with propper finger tracking. I can imagine that
rigid crescent
someone with proper finger tracking is mimicking desktop
so that only serves to prove a point
crystal fossil
Why limit the way of typing to using your fingers. You don't have to use your fingers in VR.
clever crag
aren't we all try to mimic some world?
umbral reef
Finger tracking is hard as fuck to get right...
Can't thing of a non thousand dollar product that can do it properly
crystal fossil
That's another thing! Neos menus are VR menus!
Not trying to be desktop menus.
They're 3d.
umbral reef
Menu's as in recroom are nice
Menu's as in poker star vr should be the aim in most games imo
clever crag
Finger tracking is hard as fuck to get right at the moment. We will get that some day. I'm shure
rigid crescent
To say in 20 years when some kid who starts fresh from the start in VR typing can type 100+WPM I'll cede the argument
umbral reef
Buttons and flicking things
Gives you visual feedback when your pressing something and it's not all cramped as shit
rigid crescent
except yknow, odds are he'll also be typing in desktop and faster
crystal fossil
You guys are thinking in terms of reality. Limiting.
indigo fern
whats real?
crystal fossil
You can do things in VR you can't do in reality.
clever crag
Vsauce music plays
rigid crescent
THere's still human physical limitations...
indigo fern
limet got it ๐
rigid crescent
I can honestly say I doubt anyoen will be typing 100WPM with their vive controllers at any point
umbral reef
@clever crag fbt took 10 years to go from wheeze worthy for consumers to useable for consumers
The processing power in most cases just isn't there compared to the software. (Or the other way around)
crystal fossil
Because you're thinking about them using keyboard. -.-;
rigid crescent
So what are they using?
What is the solution that allows a VR user to type faster than a desktop user
clever crag
but we are here. even 6DOF was hard at some time.
indigo fern
ok, actual bed time now 
umbral reef
Well it's still expensive as shit, not used beside for half gimick things (gaming, creating of tools) instead of a wider market and it's often still shit.
We do have phone fbt things now popping up what can help the switch
But that will also take ages as the companies that want it don't have the tools at all yet
Cs:go buy menu to type :poggers:
indigo fern
yea, those are pie menus
umbral reef
Also nighty n8
clever crag
If there was a big enaugh market we would be there. These are problems, you can throw money at and get solutions. The more money you thow at the problem, the faster you will get a solution
umbral reef
Not always. VR is only getting there because we got the PC power for it now
And the insane amount of other tech we borrowed
umbral reef
Don't come with the bulkshit crtv on your face
clever crag
We still solved it by throwing money at the problem
umbral reef
Shit worked as well as me building a car
It will work but it's tarded
indigo fern
isnt that most of your stuff tho :kapp
umbral reef
@clever crag we improved other tech what allowed is to do something properly now
crystal fossil
VR had a boom in popularity back when. If it dies now, it may come back later. A lot of things cycle through like that.
umbral reef
@indigo fern well yes
But thats because I often build things without the right budget, time or tools for it
Like that robot hand that mimiced mine
indigo fern
yea that was dope
clever crag
VR is s side product. I know that. But if there were a bigger market, we would concentrate more power into developing solutions there. But compared to other stuff noone buys VR
umbral reef
Like I feel I'm fairly qualified to say when and confirm what I just said as that's my lotteral job to work with tech that can only now be done (or not yet but set the ground work)
@clever crag ow for sure. But we now have the groundwork for that to happen
We only now have proper Dev tools. Examples of what we can do and so
clever crag
Yes, but my point is: The Rift sold 160,000 and the Vive sold about 130,000 units in 2018. That is nothing. If more people were interested in it, we would develop more solutions, more possibilities, more tech. We currently just can'T put more money into VR because we won't get it back. Only PSVR sold 700,000 units. Even that is not that great.
crystal fossil
Just think about software.
Software will sell the hardware.
As it has been.
More titles, more uses, more sales.
And there's plenty in the works.
clever crag
That is a circle. Noone wants to pump money in developing if the market is not there. Someone has to break it.
crystal fossil
We've only recently gotten the hardware. The software is coming. Then once the software sells the hardware, better hardware can be made which means better software.
Etc.
You don't buy a console that has no games you're interested in.
clever crag
Of course
crystal fossil
You see a nice game, you buy a console to try it. It's how consoles still exist. Like wth, die consoles.
lul
clever crag
A part in consoles is: They appear cheap. You have a one time cost. Many people are scared of PC's because you could thow thousands at it.
but let's not get into a PC/Console argument. That's dumb
hollow sluice
I am okay with lazy People staying with consoles
crystal fossil
^
Me too. Pay half the cost of a PC to deal with only being able to play some games and only use it for games. I don't mind.
That's all I'll say.
umbral reef
Big part of consoles is also the ease of use
It's also why laptops are so big
(for low end gaming)
indigo fern
Side note, people still make games for the dreamcast
crystal fossil
I get it. It's how Quest sold in the beginning.
hollow sluice
@indigo fern thats more of a novelty thing
next cypress
Who do you message about the valve index?
next cypress
Yeah
next cypress
I first able wanna ask them questions about warranty and questions about warranty...
clever crag
np ๐
faint skiff
@crystal fossil Completely misread your sentence as "More tities, more uses, more sales" and thought "you're not wrong" ๐
crystal fossil
That's VRChat.
faint skiff
Though it does bring back the whole "porn wars" situation where a format lives or dies by whichever platform the porn industry decides to support.
clever crag
I don't know if i am beeing woooshed or not but unfortunatley that never happened
faint skiff
It was basically a meme about the videotape format wars, but I'm not sure it's actually true in reality.
clever crag
Yes i know. It is not true. I just wasn't shure if this is common knowledge and i am explaining the obvious.
ivory axle
i ordered a massive beanbag that shouldve cost 250 but i got it for 60 for vr its arriving today woop
faint skiff
250? Jesus. Mine cost like 40 and it's big enough to sleep on almost. Why was it 250?
rocky blaze
high quality beans
cold talon
MMM yes I do love me some high quality beans
clever crag
nom
rocky blaze
but yea i cant unfavourite an avatar, i've unfaved it and went to another room, still there, unfaved and closed game and opened again, still there, like boi
covert blade
Has that been going on for more than a day?
covert blade
Consider messaging support
rocky blaze
see i dont trust that, cause if i ask them more than likely they are gonna wipe the entire list of faved avatars i have
cold talon
Wait. Expand the favorite list and try
rocky blaze
tried
cold talon
Well shi-
rocky blaze
done the usual stuff to try an update it
covert blade
๐คท
cold talon
Guess your game really likes that model
rocky blaze
ree but i dont want it anymore cause i found a cuter one
covert blade
Consider a support ticket
cold talon
Woh, throwing away a model because you found a cuter one, no wonder it doesn't want to leave
rocky blaze
haha
covert blade
Sentient avatars
rocky blaze
amma try remove a different one to see if its just that one avatar that's causing problems
its the game
covert blade
Its probs your connection
rocky blaze
lol no
covert blade
Support ticket
ivory axle
@faint skiff it contains memory foam beans and its 170 x 120cm
faint skiff
That sounds... odd. I mean a memory foam mattress makes sense as it stays as is, but the beans move around so wouldn't that be counterproductive?
rocky blaze
right sent ticket, after i said my problem i said "if there is a way to fix it, dont do it by wiping my favourites list as i will not be happy with you guys"
faint skiff
Support don't care, they'll probably just wipe it.
clever crag
better get a screenshot
cold talon
If they truly didn't care they wouldn't do anything 
faint skiff
They're obligated to do things, there are many different ways in which "things" can be done...
clever crag
I work in IT support. I can verry much support that. Usually it comes down to how you speak/write. Be kind and others will be kind
cold talon
"Obligated" nah, not really, they can refuse basically anything if they so wish
clever crag
Be a dick and i will do my job in the most shitty way i possibly can
cold talon
Hi lime, I'm a dick ๐ค
faint skiff
Well, they are obligated because it's part of their job to sort issues. Ignoring them would likely get you fired.
My point was there's normally different ways of "fixing" issues.
clever crag
Hi Dick, I'm Dad
cold talon
No no, my name is a dick, not just dick
ivory axle
sorry for late reply oops
basically the memory foam beads are like idk, imagine like laying in the beanbag and then standing up from it, it keeps that shape
so it allows you to shape the beanbag into chairs and boats to sit in n stuff
faint skiff
But what if you move the bean-bag? Doesn't it get a bit weird? I'm not sure how long they keep their shape for.
ivory axle
ill dm u a vid its weird to explain
faint skiff
Why? Also no advertising.
snow wadi
That's a resounding "No" from me.
Also, do take the time to read the #rules to prevent additional rule breaking.
rocky blaze
my fav list is fixed woo
vocal shard
sounds like another desperate attempt to get a nude swapping server going. we've seen these a hundred times. get out of here with that thirsty crap
mental shuttle
if you upgrade your CPU, at what point does the CPU not matter for VRC?
faint skiff
I'm not sure there even is a top-end, but you definitely want to prioritise per-core performance over simply having more cores.
mental shuttle
So... even if I got a i7 7700 I could still get a better one that could improve VRC?
faint skiff
Yup. My i7-8700 is often stressed
clever crag
And I'm here sitting on this POS
https://i.imgur.com/09kicwp.png
flat veldt
i got i7 9700 and getting stable 45 in most cases
20 on crowded maps that are badly optimized
i9 is not worth it as vrc is not using that much cores
cold talon
Don't say that near tupper
cold talon
Can't remember, but that convo was super kek indeed
snow wadi
I was sitting here like "...are you really going to challenge an MS tech?"
slow halo
I loved the "look I'm sorry, I'm truly sorry. But you're wrong. It's okay to be wrong" attitude
snow wadi
I wanted to send a force install of Windows Vista to that guy xD
faint skiff
I mean he could have just opened task manager and looked himself...
snow wadi
His ego was WAY too big for him to do that xD
slow halo
@faint skiff, @snow wadi, please. We all know the task manager lies. It's pretending to show more than one core to trick the plebs into thinking it's using more than one, but he knew the truth
snow wadi
Woah
slim temple
ask them to explain the concept of "threads" vs "cores" and watch their brains explode
or like, how a modern application might have several async processes but not be "multi-threaded"
faint skiff
Don't you hate it when an entire bunch of mirror-sitters all seem to block you at the same time for no apparent reason.
ivory axle
were they purple ranks
faint skiff
I believe so. I think they could see me in the reflection of the mirror or something and it spoiled their immaculate view of the background... or something, who knows.
compact river
It was prob something else thats not being mentioned
slow halo
They were all eboys/egirls? Maybe they're not into scalies
faint skiff
It was your classic mirror sitting attire style avatar, so yeah.
@compact river It doesn't take much. I saw a group of 5 people or so block someone I was stood near the other night. He was in an Avali avatar, one of them noticed, went "Eww, a furry" then blocked them, then the others all joined in, ran around the corner just to block them. The person hadn't even spoken yet.
ivory axle
snooty bastards
snow wadi
It doesn't bother me when people block me for my avatar, it's up to them really. Just goes to show how close minded they are in the end.
faint skiff
I mean if someone's avatar bothers you, you can always just hide their avatar. I'd probably not be so bothered about the malicious blocking if it wasn't for the fact that it counts against your invisible reputation score.
(though in that guys case, it was just blind furry hate which is pretty common everywhere, rather than their avatar being "annoying" to them)
rigid crescent
not like the score matters in most cases though
covert blade
It does if you'll slide into nuisance
umbral reef
Pro tip
Don't behave that way you just did
Not just that action but the ones also before that
And big odds the sound was wayyy to loud for others
umbral reef
Is that confirmed vrc waifu Jamie?!
umbral reef
Loud sounds over mic count as that
covert blade
That's mic spamming
umbral reef
Same shit
covert blade
It can be both
vocal shard
vestal pier
As if thats better somehow lmao
umbral reef
And that's an even easier one way ticket to getting kicked lul
covert blade
So?
vestal pier
Being new allows you to earrape?
covert blade
Those two things arent mutually exclusive
That's why you were kicked, right?
Ppl dont ask if its bad
They'll block instantly
Nope
vestal pier
If you were kicked you did something annoying
umbral reef
Id ask for the audio clip you played but I really do not care as it's not my problem
Can even be your avatar or some shit
vocal shard
Eh? What
covert blade
Why #world-development ?
vocal shard
If anything #general-media
umbral reef
You upload it and link it?
umbral reef
Bruh I legit don't get how kidscan grow up with pcs, the internet and all the easy to use programs but can't even properly use it
covert blade
.....
umbral reef
Legit Google 'upload sound clip', click the website, upload it there and link
vocal shard
Either way, I think we get it
covert blade
But you were gonna upload it in the wrong channel?
snow wadi
The easy solution to not getting kicked is to just not do it at all or play any other sounds that are deemed a nuisance.
umbral reef
M4a can also be used
It's also an audio file, impressive as fuck though that you managed to find one
vocal shard
To quote someone (@slow halo) from around two hours ago (yes, I do read the backlog here, heh)
Who's the guy who was insisting that the game only used 1 core period
Not me, and I'm not saying that VRChat is single-threaded but it does dominate a single CPU core a lot more than the others: http://xor.meo.ws/4aeed257/18fc/4401/b20b/ecb0c740e965.png
umbral reef
Ellis you know what funny mic is?
You seen them vids where people put the mic close to there mouth so it's all loud and distorted
broken plover
isnt that asmr
rigid crescent
see? this is the type to get nuisance rank
covert blade
^ Mic
umbral reef
No that's soft sounds
I'm talking about pretty much ear rape for voice
umbral reef
But if you don't know it NVM
Just wanted to see what you would think of it
umbral reef
@rigid crescent hehe xd
covert blade
I wonder for how much longer y'all intend to keep this up
snow wadi
Look it doesn't matter if one guy laughed or one cow cried, the story here is you should just STOP.
umbral reef
@covert blade my brain cells are to flabbergasted to destroy themself still so
umbral reef
And I'm travling so I got nothing better to do then chay
covert blade
Kay
umbral reef
Home
vestal pier
snow wadi
Every time I want to get on vrchat something comes up.
vestal pier
Did your subscription expire? :-)
rigid crescent
been on all night 
snow wadi
Don't worry I have no intention of meeting you anytime soon. :3
rigid crescent
and morning
snow wadi
@rigid crescent Moaning โค
umbral reef
This Saturday oclac is going into public world's again
rigid crescent
almost full 12
snow wadi
Wait, it's dark over my end here D:
umbral reef
That by monthly event
dark dagger
Who plan go to Sakura-Kon ??
twin fractal
faint skiff
I'm on all the time...
vocal shard
its pretty rare to find me
snow wadi
Time zones.
broken plover
I havent played that much lately :/ but next week I can play all day because no school! :D
desert stratus
@languid beacon timezone?
cuz im on almost every day at some time between 5-11pm us east
edgy oasis
hi
delete everything that has discord on it on your omputer
computer* then redownload it
how unot be so laggy in vr chat
like how u turn down graphics
or something like that
ruby needle
hold shift during start
but there is only a limited option for that
do you use VR?
What are your computer's specs, CPU Model, RAM amount and which graphics card.
vocal shard
people who finds me gets a legendary fortnite skin
edgy oasis
i dont have vr
ruby needle
How old are the both of you, i might ask
edgy oasis
im 13
faint skiff
Not that you have any way of verifying that. They're probably younger but there's no validation.
faint skiff
So why did you ask them?
slow halo
What was I like when I was 13... Where was I even
- I guess I was still in middle school. Grade 7 makes sense
slow halo
Farewell, young prince. We hardly knew ye
umbral reef
yeet'd
lunar cedar
Be expressive in other ways
broken plover
Again, just because you can do something doesnt mean you should do it
"doing what the game allows me to do" thats what I meant... You shouldnt do some stuff just because you can
frosty veldt
Its hard for people to engage with you if you don't engage with them. Also dont think murder is a good place to chat as people are busy playing
languid beacon
Arizona time zone (mountain without daylight savings) @desert stratus
umbral reef
The time keeps jumping up ๐
But im not gonna waste time, its not everyone else always. Look at your actions, accept feedback and dont deflect it always unless you want to keep shit the same way.
broken plover
Always remember to ask before doing something that affects all players
desert stratus
ahhh. so like, you get on when my day is ending id assume
all voices are beautiful. its all about your actual speaking anyway
frosty veldt
If people treat you like shit then you wouldnt want to be friends with them anyways. A couple of my friends sound very young but since they speak in a mature fashion I dont mind
umbral reef
More people care about how and what you say
Anyone can have a voice they dont enjoy but if you speak (what you say, now how) and act like a 10yo. they will ignore you.
desert stratus
im a student assistant at my HS and another student who works with me sounds like he could be 12, and yet i never register him that way just because of how he speaks. Nobody does
if someone gives you shit just because you sound like a kid, then as everyone has said, their opinion is irrelevant
frosty veldt
To look at it positively you'll grow out of it lol
desert stratus
if something is consistent amongst people, then the problem lies more with environment. there are some public worlds that are nicer, and things generally get better when you hang out in friends + worlds
broken plover
I had a pretty deep voice for a 13 year old when I was that age
winter obsidian
is this the appropriate channel to ask where I can find a normal nezuko skin and not a chibi?
languid beacon
P much this one
winter obsidian
ok cool
cause I need help trying to find a normal nezuko morph. All I find are chibi morphs
faint skiff
"I sound very young but do speak in a mature way" ... said every 10 year-old ever.
@winter obsidian What is a "morph" in this context?
winter obsidian
sorry, I meant avatar
languid beacon
@winter obsidian I have nothing to contribute I just wanted to put more flower emojis in the chat
faint skiff
Ah. Well I know they exist in-game, I've seen a few people using them, but not where to get them.
winter obsidian
alright, thanks anyway. I will continue to search
slow halo
Good luck on your search
I'm still looking for a good Holo avatar. Haven't had any luck
faint skiff
Master Chief? There's so many of them. Also I'm disappointed in you for that, lol.
lunar cedar
If you find her, lmk. The vr game is on sale on steam btw
slow halo
yeah, I know
I got the VR game on my switch (lol vr labo) 'cause why not, but it turns out the switch version is the only version that doesn't have headpat capabilities
major disappointment. Gonna grab it on steam now that it's on sale for sure
lunar cedar
I'd buy it if I had money to spare, but maybe it will have a better sale during the winter sale when I'll probably have some.
slow halo
okay I for real need to get to work. Ignoring the lot of you!
gray kelp
Does anyone know if I was to email someone on the vrchat team or whatever its called, I could change my name early? Or would i have to wait? I have about 20 or so days til I can change it again. Would that be a problem? Yes or no?
faint skiff
Why cant you wait?
gray kelp
I had given the account to an old friend, its a trusted account. They changed the name on it and it's not something I would want for myself.
umbral reef
At best they would undo the name change then.
Also, thats the risk of doing stupidly risky actions like sharing accounts.
vocal shard
Anything is worth a shot. They used to change names if you emailed, before they added the ability to do it yourself
broken plover
yeah last time I changed my name you had to email them
errant shale
Hello, Iโm a new Vrchat player. Iโm currently looking for some cool people to hang out with or just someone willing to show me around.
Things to note:
Iโm a quest user, so unless you have a quest version model I canโt see you
Iโm a 19 year old male in college
My user is Shadow_VR
hard bramble
yay
broken plover
I guess I've been playing the game wrong then :/
snow trellis
There are no girls on the internet.
vocal shard
What is a โgirlโ?
snow trellis
I think it's what you cook burgers on
terse wyvern
this user named plox keeps joining never have i ever rooms and crashing them -w-
vocal shard
Report
ivory folio
Reporting him won't do anything unfortunately. It's a shame there isn't a fix for the world anchor exploit crash
tall plaza
@terse wyvern have you tried blocking his avatar by searching him up in social and just blocking him there?
ivory folio
You can't block someone in game unless you are in the same world as them. Because someone thought that was a good idea
You'd have to do it on the site
covert blade
Pretty sure you can still block via the social menu if you look up the name
late nacelle
hey guys, a friend is a bit paranoid and and accidentally accepted a friend req of a crasher and is now scared that she's got her pc hacked and that the hacker has got access to her steam and stuff cuz she's logged in on her steam acc, so can y'all just tell me if anything like that is even remotely possible
covert blade
๐
No, adding people does not provide information that would allow for such an action
Too much paranoia, just unfriend and forget
late nacelle
apparently she can't block people anymore and now she can't start the game anymore, any idea why that is?
covert blade
Connectivity issues maybe?
I dunno. People can't unfav their avatars sometimes either
late nacelle
yeah but this all happens in a row for her and she's very very paranoid and is about to cry
covert blade
Sigh
late nacelle
ok now it's gucci i think
covert blade
No, people cannot remotely make it so that your game can't launch
No, adding people as friends doesn't expose any extra information that would make hacking more possible than before
late nacelle
she still can't block people tho, even tho she just restarted her pc
covert blade
Because it's not an issue with her PC
vocal shard
People cant get their pcs hacked from vrc @late nacelle . Believe me im so paranoid as well. But some hackers can get her ip and ddos her.
covert blade
"Hackers"
vocal shard
I got ddosed many times but changing ip is a easy thing to do
Aka cheaters...
Sorry.
vocal shard
Yeah... sorry. Im used to saying that. I will be more careful next time.
stray temple
One of my friend plan to does robot and weapon exclusive marketplace on the December.
(About 30 exhibitors)
What do you thinnk?
https://twitter.com/IspVitamin/status/1177478611638423554?s=20
covert blade
Oh good more robots
terse wyvern
@tall plaza i have my safetys on, no avatars show so i dont crash from him but like 95% of the other people playing crash
tall plaza
thats a bruh momentum
i got crashed too from one dude who thought my friend was cheating
chilly current
id give anything to relive the space travel loading screen, the old one its a nostalgia feeling i need to encourage me to play more
pallid yew
languid beacon
Depends on the shader rendering the text. Default nameplates are hit or miss with non-ANSI letters
But simple grave accents on vowels are probably fine
indigo fern
i guess accents never miss huh
rough flax
vocal shard
same
simple schooner
^
dusky cedar
simple schooner
im just chilling with no avatars
vocal shard
aye, servers are partly down :c
magic osprey
vague tinsel
...
verbal arch
unborn gulch
I can't even load in.
vocal shard
@mild acorn what happened with the server I tried to make a private world and it threw me in a public
tranquil nexus
Same here.
sharp stag
server is not working
junior rock
lol
sharp heron
Ok, the hell is going on with VRChat? I can't join my homeworld.. I can't even join friends. I keep getting stuck in an infinite join loop.
Clearing cache did nothing.
vocal shard
im stuck on initializing and then black screen
sharp stag
only pre exsisting public instances work
snow nimbus
ofc
languid olive
Yes
pure jewel
yup
craggy verge
is there a new update or something or just poopy servers
regal talon
problems here too
rare cliff
same
mortal folio
I have a problem with my VRC, Where can I report it?
torn schooner
people D:DOSing is what I've heard
rancid vessel
Is VRChat having issues? Avatars aren't loading in for me at all.
carmine dew
Bro what is going on man I only get on this shit once a blue moon and they still have problems this bad?
sand willow
did thanos just snap vrchat?
spiral owl
^ I think so
vocal shard
again F
keen coyote
biggy oof
trim bough
everything black when i load
proper adder
F
trim bough
scaryyyy
fickle estuary
same
spiral owl
Big F
keen coyote
F
rich coral
F
spiral owl
F
dapper wedge
F
ruby needle
Please no spam, thanks
vocal shard
lol
proper adder
Lets give a big OLD F for vrchat again bois till they adress the issue
dapper wedge
lmao
spiral owl
OLD F
vocal shard
F
languid olive
@proper adder That was John Mulaney
languid olive
Mmhmm
vivid surge
Anarchy?
vocal shard
F
faint skiff
Existing instances are broken too
vocal shard
F :c
rich coral
Even if you reset it borked
slate verge
thank
vocal shard
๐
tall plaza
also, avatars dont render and packets are getting sent from vrchat sloppily
spare lichen
yes it seems game unavailable?
tall plaza
meaning drawings look like chicken scratch
candid wadi
also you have to rejoin instances to change avatars
fathom bolt
cant load into any instance atm. just goes to a black screen and then retrying over and over again
fiery mango
sad
carmine dew
So uh, you saying I won't be able to play vrchat tomight? Alrighty then
slate verge
thats what the announcement says so be patient
carmine dew
Well it was fun for the 5 minutes I was able to sit and write japanese with some newbies lol
vocal shard
this is nothing new with vrchat lol always something breaking
carmine dew
For real
fathom bolt
probably gonna be a quick fix. at least i hope so
candid wadi
well, it'll give me a chance to figure out how to fix an avatar so, meh
vocal shard
quick fixes r the worst it breaks stuff just as fast lol
wheat moss
Anyone ever run vrchat with an oculus on an acer Nitro 5?
carmine dew
Everytime I run vrchat it feels like it's running off a cheesecake with these servers so idk
valid void
can we get a F in chat boys n girls
rocky magnet
๐ฃ
peak vault
f
carmine dew
Dam that's a rip
crisp lake
F
main flare
only a few people will be lucky to load in
vivid surge
F
main flare
too much dos for all of us
warped flame
A friend loaded in.
tall plaza
I'm stuck loading in the black screen
merry minnow
im just going to back off of trying to get in for the time being to reduce potential server load
tall plaza
oh well qwp
timid hornet
Well shit, why are you guys getting hut again
vocal shard
is vrchat getting ddos'ed
vestal pier
golden bloom
hamster wheel fell off a table, might take all night to get fixed
sacred mirage
reeeeeeeeeee
zenith tree
Is every problem considered a "DDOS" in 2019?
I dropped an egg... is this also a DDOS now..?
candid wadi
whenever anything happens, everyone is just like IT'S A DDOS ATTACK BOYOS PACK THE CANNED BEANS INTO THE FALLOUT SHELTER IT'S DOOMSDAY
queen mango
There's no confirmation on the cause of the server issues.
It won't help if misinformation is spread regarding that as it contributes to fearmongering
proper lynx
someone spilled Chef Boyardee Beefaroniโข on the servers
candid wadi
lmao
queen mango
Must've been a missing node, as far as I can think of.
ripe aspen
One of the hamsters on the wheel died again
candid wadi
I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert in this, so I'll just wait until the stuff is fixed
zenith tree
yeah.. lenme put a new one in
valid void
lmao
zenith tree
but these hamsters are soo fragile... sigh
golden bloom
poor hamsters
zenith tree
We need moar hamstaahs
lapis karma
and it works
ripe aspen
Do the hamster dance
lapis karma
he made it into the game by reinstall it
golden bloom
mass reinstall imminent
proper lynx
i'm too lazy to click buttons
vocal shard
but your keyboard is filled with buttons
valid void
rip
proper lynx
how do you know i'm not using the stupid voice thing for a phone
proper lynx
i didn't think you'd go this far
zenith tree
these are super hamsters... super means, super easy to die
vocal shard
bruh we get it you have hamsters
languid beacon
cannot join new instances and cannot join instances in progress
Sooo... you canโt log in or use portals?
zenith tree
i would keep distance from portals for now
gleaming kraken
well this is the first time ive ever been impacted by server problems
languid beacon
Easy for me since I am not already logged on
valid void
im online
gleaming kraken
i cant even login to my home world
valid void
havent logged though but my friend tried relogging now they cant log back in so i guess thats an issue rn
languid beacon
Onlines are down to 4K so my guess is people can stay but not login
gleaming kraken
yeah
true timber
First time logging in today and can't, so it's definitely not just an issue with portals and switching maps, can't even join anything when the game is started.
gleaming kraken
and cant hop into new worlds
vocal shard
They are down
true timber
Yeah
valid void
mhm
vocal shard
i suggest not getting kn till wommorow or an hour after its fixed
true timber
A shame that the game is unstable sometimes due to malicious actors
gleaming kraken
man and i really wanted to test out my avatars
true timber
Hard to protect against DDOS attacks, which I'm at least assuming is what is happening.
and yeah I was in the middle of testing an avatar X.X
proper lynx
don't automatically assume it's ddosers
gleaming kraken
not to say it wasnt
candid wadi
y'all are paranoid af
true timber
I only assume since there was a post Tupper made in the past about how VRChat is always constantly under attack by people DDOSing the servers. So that's what I assume usually is the issue when there's problems.
vocal shard
It could be many things. Maybe some problem from the server provider
true timber
It's not really being paranoid, most of the times where the servers shit the bed it's due to a ddos attack. It's not like they're rare or anything, it doesn't even just go for VRChat, ddos attacks are common everywhere unfortunately.
gleaming kraken
like in World of Warcraft, saw alot of ddos attacks a little while back
hit when classic came out
true timber
Not saying it is for sure a ddos attack since I don't know anything about the current situation, only basing it on previous knowledge and what the VRChat team has said in the past about always being under attack by ddos.
valid void
i just got an invite to a friends world and it just put me into someone else house randomly wtf lmao
gleaming kraken
weird
vestal pier
Thats breaking and entering!
gleaming kraken
for me it would try to load and then throw me in a black void for a few seconds and then start over
ripe quiver
I can't even get into my home world for God sakes lol. Click Go and initializing world then black screen and reload world again "face palm"
gleaming kraken
same
gleaming kraken
just wanted to see the avatar i spent the last 4 hours working on
polar jasper
Just take a break and wait for them to do another announcement =/
vocal shard
^
gleaming kraken
vrchat is the only thing i spend my free time on anymore
vocal shard
same
gleaming kraken
its either making avatars or using avatars
broken nymph
Anyone else getting a DM from VRC_PlayerCount bot?
polar jasper
Was one in #user-support-old that got it @broken nymph
broken nymph
Ah gotcha, I see
gleaming kraken
oh thats cool
broken nymph
Also yeah same here SpiritedSpy, I'm mostly editing models in blender and unity lmao
native tartan
hi
gleaming kraken
yeah, personally just finished up a joker (2019) model
native tartan
sup
vocal shard
i was able to join a friend
try now
im not trying anything till they announce that is is stable
rigid crescent
im not trying anything till they announce that is is stable
There's been a lot of times where they never do a followup announcement, I wouldn't hold your breath @vocal shard
vocal shard
^
gleaming kraken
yeah, i personally dont remember any
vocal shard
yea well i still cant get in rn -_-
gleaming kraken
rip
rigid crescent
oh so you did try 
gleaming kraken
if you were already in an instance your fine, you just cant join any new ones, and people who arent logged in cant join their home worlds
rigid crescent
Basically joining via an existing world launch link into an already existing world is all you can do right now unless you're lucky
cold stag
Why am I hearing reports of "chinese visitors" in worlds just beforehand?
ripe aspen
UwU me daddy!
cold stag
The fb community
gleaming kraken
oh
cold stag
And some of my friends
dawn plinth
Guys I found an instance that still works: The lag free box
rigid crescent
if i had to pick between not playing and going to the box....i'd go for not playing
static rampart
people can only join certai ninstances, just post them tbh
vestal pier
Crazy that its your own maps that you're spamming tho haha ๐ค
dawn plinth
vocal shard
vestal pier
๐
vestal pier
guys im helping
vocal shard
you guys smell
dawn plinth
I try
vocal shard
my world is better
static rampart
lmao
sharp inlet
What in coordination
fickle thorn
just logged in. appears to be working again.
slate verge
good
static rampart
avatar switching works too now, looks like we are through
tacit plank
Good job VRC team! I can pet heads again
rigid crescent
Peace has been restored
upbeat obsidian
Cool finally
vocal shard
Become new user @dawn fossil
rigid crescent
no set time, just play til it happens basically
mighty cradle
tonight was great fun
i actually want this random pool as a legit feature in vrc
public, private, and random
grand lion
Heyy
fluid bloom
i just met you
ruby needle
... this is crazy 
here is my number -> #general-media let's go there maybe
i mean, what? 
snow wadi
hoary bronze
vocal shard
Bruh I still see kids in knuckle avatars begone children
next cypress
Is there any disadvantages to you 1.0 base stations for the valve index?
faint skiff
Only the limitation of 2 max, otherwise they seem to work identically.
clever crag
The 2.0 ones have a FOV of 160ยบ x 115ยบ the old ones have 120ยฐx120ยฐ afaik
hollow sluice
I Will never get 2.0 because I cant even get 2.0 vive trackers in my country
zinc plank
Is there e like a vrc dating server?
faint skiff
The void club mirror, lul
rigid crescent
there was
covert blade
You cant even get 2.0 trackers? Lol. Here that's the only thing HTC sells
faint skiff
"Catgirl looking 4 wolfboy" with a 20 to 1 ratio of wolfboys.
hollow sluice
@covert blade HTC doesnt ship here. Niether does amazon
covert blade
Wut
faint skiff
Where do you live?
covert blade
Huh. How come Amazon doesnt ship there?
faint skiff
Slovakia is in the EU isn't it? I thought Valve shipped to the US and EU.
faint skiff
Valve ships the V2 trackers and they are Valve branded.
hollow sluice
Valve sells trackers?!
covert blade
Nope
faint skiff
Sorry, not trackers, I'm dumb
I meant basestations
No wonder the conversation didn't make sense
covert blade
So Amazon and HTC both dont ship into a EU country... dafรผq?
vocal shard
I canโt tell if people can hear me :/
covert blade
But technically there's no import costs between EU countries and even oversea shipping isnt expensive enough to bump the price from 119โฌ to 200โฌ
@vocal shard does the mic symbol light up when you talk?
covert blade
Then people can hear you
vocal shard
Ok
covert blade
Make sure your mic is at full volume in the windows and ingame settings and that you are as close as possible to the mic (basically dont be too far away)
vocal shard
Iโm using a virtual cable through a discord call cos my mic on pc doesnโt work
๐
faint skiff
@hollow sluice eBay from other european sellers is probably your best bet then.
covert blade
Virtual cable just takes your input and puts it through a different output
vocal shard
Yeah
covert blade
Which is only possible when your mic works
vocal shard
No
covert blade
Yes
vocal shard
Iโm using discord through my phone
faint skiff
If your mouth moves in-game then it must be working.
vocal shard
Ok thx
hollow sluice
@faint skiff IDK man I dont trust ebay that much. Theres no difference between 1.-0 and 2.0 other than the base station compatibility so I might as well just go for hte old ones since I dont have new base stations anyways
faint skiff
Yeah but if you do eventually get new stations, you'll need to get new trackers as well. As far as not trusting eBay, just use a payment method you can claw back through - a credit card via PayPal is pretty concrete to be honest.
snow wadi
You should make all purchases online with paypal tbh.
faint skiff
PayPal aren't perfect, which is why using it with a Credit Card is the best idea, because CC customer service is normally second to none.
snow wadi
That's what I meant, attaching your card to your paypal account...
faint skiff
Yus, I wasn't disagreeing, just saying why to use it with a CC specifically
snow wadi
faint skiff
Linking PayPal to a bank account to make payments, for instance, is much more difficult to work with if something goes wrong.
turbid agate
Yeah its alot easier to do payments by transferring to a paypal before
faint skiff
Oh, that one's only to the UK, weirdly enough
@turbid agate You don't need to transfer it to PP before hand, it'll do it automatically if the card is linked.
turbid agate
Mine has had the issue where bank and paypal dont agree with each other so i had to use transfer funds
faint skiff
Yeah, I noticed afterwards, weirdly enough they ONLY post to the UK, despite not being in the UK. Go figure.
fluid bloom
Slovakia?
Someone here's from slovakia?
faint skiff
Is Nuked a Slov too? Do you all have bright white skin and blue-tipped black hair? ๐
hollow sluice
Oh no I am a furry. I just liked the subcom model
hollow sluice
I think @fluid bloom is Slovenian
viral otter
i realised i can join only 1 world
fluid bloom
howcome
regal furnace
i think it supports it
faint skiff
You need a bunch of third party drivers, but yes, it works. You can't move though.
regal furnace
i remember seeing a video about it
hollow sluice
yeah you need like a xbox controller to move around additionally to your hands
faint skiff
But yeah, it's why when everyone freaks out over the Quest finger tracking, they ignore that it's basically useless in most scenarios.
regal furnace
wait, the quest has fingertracking?
faint skiff
It's planned in future. It'll be a low field of vision thing though and likely end up being more a gimmick than anything, but I guess they're trying to drum up additional interest in the headset.
faint skiff
I'm not sure how they'd do that. Their schtick is "no external bits" and FBT basically can't work without it due to occlusion.
regal furnace
i am not a fan if inside out tracking
id rather have 2 Sensors around me that only a very small tracking area in front of my headset where i can move my hands
faint skiff
Actually the only headset I know that isn't inside out is the original Rift, all the rest are inside out in some fashion.
slow halo
My inside out O+ works really well. It has trouble tracking my hands when they're outside my field of view but it's not a huge deal
faint skiff
Yeah, inside out works well these days. It's just the "close up" and "behind" issues that remain. The main issue is it means you can't use external devices, such as FBT.
slow halo
Yeah
umbral reef
And need lights
slow halo
But maybe someone will figure that out? Surely there's a happy medium between $15 and some chewing gum for Kinect or your first born child for the valve system
I'd say maybe the wmr team would do it but then I'd be lying
faint skiff
Yeah, needing lights is annoying too. I always play in the pitch black heh.
languid beacon
When it comes to quest I want wireless PCVR more than finger tracking. Iโd ditch fullbody in exchange for wireless PCVR
faint skiff
I mean you could get a Vive Pro and wireless kit on eBay for pretty cheap these days...
(comparatively cheap, anyway...)
vocal shard
well index have wireless someday
will*
as much as im happy to get it, its gonna get abit hard to get used to an wired chord lol upgrading from quest
pure hemlock
Probably someday but not anytime soon
faint skiff
Oddly enough I find the tether a little reassuring, as though I may end up wandering god-knows-where if it wasn't there ๐
faint skiff
There was apparently a big AWS DDoS last night, is that what was affecting VRC, or simply coincidental timing?
deft girder
Vrchat does run on aws so most likely ๐ค
vocal shard
Someone Haves A Furry, pfp
clever crag
Due to the fact, that AWS packages are imported into unity when importing the SDK i would consider that proven.
The question is: Had the DDoS affect on VRC. I had massive loading problems yesterday. Felt like my connection to the servers was slow as hell
faint skiff
VRC was down for nearly an hour. Avatars wouldn't load, then worlds wouldn't load.
clever crag
I was asleep when that happened. I had problems starting about 2 hours before the big thing
faint skiff
Ah
slim needle
Yeah ended up getting kicked out of VR last night D:
faint skiff
Apparently the DDoS against AWS lasted nearly 8 hours, so it could have been related.
vocal shard
the aws ddos attack wasn't related to this, there was in fact no ddos attack to aws going on while vrchat had issues and the ddos attack the media is reporting was to route53 that happened almost a day before
gentle cove
I only started playing last night. you mean loading into the 'home' area, with like 20 other people isn't 'normal'? ๐
(I gathered that was a weird bug from the confused reactions :p)
pure hemlock
It's not normal, VRChat throws you in a public version of the world when it has a hard time loading a world.
Which is pretty silly logic but it's fun for trying to catch ERPers in the nude in public
vocal shard
eboys shouldnt be a thing
gentle cove
As I say, I am a newbie. But I thought I saw one of the information load screens said that lewd avatars were unacceptable 'outside of private instances', was their exact wording. Which i guess means they're not outlawed entirely?
Not that i have any interest in the ERP scene. I want to hurry along with the trust system so I can start with content creation.
pure hemlock
I believe they're fine in private instances, but it's kinda funny since when the game bugs out and kicks you to a public instance at no fault of your own, can you be banned? lol
covert blade
Yup.
vocal shard
gentle cove
Better get good at avatar-quick change :p
covert blade
Really the only reason it is "allowed" in private is because for as long as nothing is being reported, streamed or otherwise shared, they'll never know it happened
vocal shard
well, from a technical perspective, they do know that it may have happened based on the avatar logs (vrchat /does/ log photon events on the server side, right?)
it's probably more that they dont care that it has happened. what others can't see, doesn't exist for them
covert blade
Assuming they go through the effort of checking absolutely everything that has ever been uploaded to the game
vocal shard
same reason why crashing people in non-public worlds with crasher avatars is apparently not a thing they are banning for
pure hemlock
I mean you can mark an avatar as NSFW when you upload...
covert blade
lol
broken plover
the marking as nsfw has never eally been used tho
pure hemlock
Nope but it implies they allow Nude avatars to some degree
broken plover
with not really used, I mean that it doesnt really do a difference and its shown nowhere that you ticked that mark
rigid crescent
NSFW = / = Nude why do people conflate that? And no, it doesn't imply they allow it but go ahead and try and get banned if you're caught lol
vocal shard
"shown nowhere" - doesnt it create a tag on the avatar?
rigid crescent
I don't even think it shows in the API does it?
broken plover
Idk. I have an avatar uploaded with it (really old so I dont use it anymore) and it doesnt have a tag
rigid crescent
maybe under the tags for it, haven't seen any used though
pure hemlock
The rules for the game say nudity isn't allowed but you can mark an avatar as having nudity and be allowed to upload it. VRChat ftw.
rigid crescent
yeah no clue why they haven't touched that
vocal shard
a lot of things at vrchat are outdated, not only the unity version :P
like, ive recently discovered a couple pages on help.vrchat.com with outdated screenshots and text that are no longer accurate
rigid crescent
I do like the ingame warning that says NSFW avatars etc in public worlds is bannable
people seem to think that means they're not bannable in private worlds, it's really bad wording lol
pure hemlock
My god they make things confusing
covert blade
Cannot stream or share NSFW content from private worlds
But there's no way anyone could prove that it was a private world so one report and you'd still be screwed along with whoever created it
rigid crescent
You don't think they can prove it?
covert blade
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pure hemlock
Okay so if I am streaming from a private world and my friend Joe Dirt decides to start ERPing with his gay lover Bob in the corner and I caught it on stream before I can block them or leave, am I banned, or is Joe and Bob banned?
cold talon
everyone in the instance is banned 
rigid crescent
It's obviously involuntary inclusion in that scenario...
and you've made an attempt to remove yourself from the situation
pure hemlock
Okay but Joe and Bob are banned for uploading nude avatars though, right?
rigid crescent
If they're reported, sure, but if yo uthink they're out there scanning every single stream 24/7 I've got some news for you lol
rigid crescent
Well what you described is a moderator ticket with video evidence so I would assume they'd be banned...
or at least punished in some form
faint skiff
Actually that rule says streaming or sharing content, not using a NSFW avatar. Implying it means taking pictures/video and posting it around.
covert blade
Of course, but if you're streaming and it happens on stream before you can react then that is out of your control.
Also, what I meant earlier was that I could join a private instance, take evidence of NSFW stuff happening, make a moderation report and I am almost positive that they would still get in trouble for that.
rigid crescent
I mean the rule doesn't have to say using the avatar because that's a separate rule. That's why I said "context matters"
And NSFW in private instance is still against the rules
the "implication" of the rule allowing it in private is either an oversight, a mistake, or an attempt for them to make the rule seem loose to allow leniency with private world stuff
slate kestrel
@fluid bloom didnt think id see more than 1 Slovenian dude first day ๐
rigid crescent
But people have definitely been banned for posting overly NSFW (nude mostly) stuff on twitter, streams, "other sites"
that's why it's better to take them in unity or blender, or at least taking it with a greenscreen or alpha channel and pasting it on a solid color background so they don't really know 100% if it's ingame, but if you're just taking nudes for twitter in the pug you're probably getting banned if you're caught
pastel elk
hello im new to the server๐
silent whale
pastel elk
ha, thanks.
pure hemlock
Hi Vigilante
pastel elk
hello Yin
vocal shard
welcome to discord of vrc yo!
pastel elk
Thanks man. I really hope i can be able to play in VRCHAT soon.
vocal shard
good luck my dude
pastel elk
thanks man.
static crow
hey i have a problem
cold talon
we all do kyanite, we all do
static crow
my hands disappear when i put them towards my face tho i dont touch it
broken plover
is your avatar (really) small?
vocal shard
How small is your avatar?
vocal shard
Everywhere? Or specific maps?
faint skiff
I have that with my 20cm tall tiny avatar.
static crow
uh happened in multiple maps i only go to like 3 maps
vocal shard
It sounds like it's the clipping plane, which is controlled by the map settings
It's more noticeable on small avatars
static crow
if i get close to someone's face i get inside it and his face disappears
even tho i'm quite far
thing is it didn't happen prior to today
broken plover
that could be your personal space.
vocal shard
^
static crow
no they don't completely disappear i just get inside their face
it's turned off
it's like a bad camera placement
but it happens on avatars i've been using for weeks
vocal shard
i thought i was the only one
static crow
@vocal shard u get that too since tday?
vocal shard
ive been having it for a week now i think
static crow
zzzz it sux
vocal shard
Awwe
rigid crescent
well it's meant for socializing. if you're not social yo ucant expect much from it
desert stratus
plus you can do different things all the time in the game anyway
dreamy gate
gentle cove
MFW I'm derping around with people and friends, waiting for my trust status to improve and I can make custom avatars; and I find a premade avatar that is so perfect I don't even want to make a custom one anymore for myself xD
...still at least I will be able to make other content, I have other plans too.
toxic lantern
i just cleared my cache and restarted my game, and now vrchat won't load my home world or default home world. stuck at 0%
i tried re-installing it too
and before clearing cache all of the preview pictures (worlds, avatars in the menu) were blank like they couldnt load
gilded heart
when that happens to me i restart the pc and it works
on another note, on the website my friendlist value keeps changing, is that normal?
broken plover
only if people unfriend you or accept your requests
gilded heart
when i logged in i had 10/13, then i deleted 3 because they never online, now 9/9
it didn't really add up
at first i thought i can have only 13 friends
vocal shard
vrchat is actually fun, especially if youre a dancer (: show off ppl dance moves is fun, and many new memes everyday.
gilded heart
just being nice to people and have some nice chat is also great
turbid atlas
My favorite thing to do is play cards against humanity haha
It's a fun way to get to know other users
pure hemlock
My fav thing to do in VRChat is sleeping
gentle cove
@vocal shard Do you have full motion tracking? - Apparently VRChat supports it, whihc does of course allow full fledged dancing to be copied over.
pure hemlock
The headsets are just so comfy
gentle cove
Lol PK, I'm a total newbie and just came from a session of that, was way more entertaining than I expected
vocal shard
no i dont have full motion tracking..which i dont know what that is... im only getting the vive trackers.
gentle cove
It's a bunch of additional trackers for your feet and waist. I'm not sure how it is set up or works, but I know if you do have that, VRChat can apply that to your avatar
gilded heart
from what i know only vive trackers work, ill buy some next month
compact river
3 vive trackers and some rubber bands
turbid atlas
If you're using a headset how do you trigger an avatars "extra features" lol
rigid crescent
oh that reminds me i gotta charge my trackers
turbid atlas
I heard keyboard users use function keys
rigid crescent
depends on the controller, but it's all done with it
turbid atlas
Index :p
rigid crescent
touchpad vive, hand gestures on index and oculus
turbid atlas
Oh!
rigid crescent
ugh, index and gestures is so clunky, it's why i havent swapped
they work but like...I have yet to see someone reliably use them
turbid atlas
That makes sense. I had copied a cute anime Avi but apparently I was doing something to make her say ummm adult stuff
rigid crescent
i'm more likely to try and get some cheap 2.0s off a friend than get the index controllers when i upgrade
turbid atlas
Fallout 4 w/index is hell