I only got the font for the game logo, sadly.
#vrchat-general-2
glad bolt
slate verge
it is Dosis apparently https://fontmeme.com/fonts/dosis-font/
glad bolt
Okay, thank you.
mint owl
anyone having audio issues where you VRC doesn't have any audio at all?
twin fractal
thankfully no
slate verge
@mint owl check your windows mix volume
brittle kestrel
hi
slate verge
hi
brittle kestrel
hi @slate verge
slate verge
hello
noble gust
twin fractal
snail:
noble gust
twin fractal
it really be like that
noble gust
Yeah, tis the spoopy month
twin fractal
its my birth month too 
noble gust
Aye nice!
uncut trail
is vrchat having issues rn
vocal shard
β
mortal pier
anyone else not able to load anything faster than .02% per secont.
its not my interent im 14ping 222 download
vocal shard
π π π
mortal pier
has a mod addressed this yet if so?
vocal shard
sudden pelican
3 things i know
slate verge
if you don't see any discussion then its probably nothing, could be a hiccup
mortal pier
well its been 30 minutes now
ive reset the game 7 times
done a speedtest 3 times and all green 14 ping with over 200 dowload
still lark
Can't believe you mentioned the mods over a non-issue.
mortal pier
you cant belive?
the world is full of idots and this is a vrchat issue
slate verge
whoa whoa easy there, unless there are multiple people reporting the same issue you cannot assume that its a vrchat issue immediately
mortal pier
ive seen one other person reporting it currently but other than that :x
slate verge
i'm not saying you're wrong cuz usually when i said i don't experience it, it comes hitting me like a truck hours later
mortal pier
and noone for over 20 minutes wanted to sayanything or help so i did what i must of either send and email (and wait 5 days) or discord :x
ive been loading this world for 5 minutes now and im only at 13% ... sigh :c
slate verge
if you can't load into a world its usually cuz of your internet speed, not gonna lie
i've done way too many test to determine it
mortal pier
well my interent speed with over 4 tests of confirmation is over 200 download right now
and at 14 ping
even now im only just reaching 16%
sudden pelican
Im getting pinged
slate verge
@mortal pier make sure its towards their server and not servers around your region
mortal pier
how would i go about that
uncut trail
It's VRChat
slate verge
idk i never read about their regional server, but i assume its in the u.s
mortal pier
im u.s
slate verge
can always ask a mod
rigid crescent
the mods don't control that stuff , they're not employees or staff, just chat mods
mortal pier
i Atted the Active Chat Mods for help but do you realy think they care about one persons issue?
if they did then they would actually deserver being one XD
yes i know chat mods cant however it is nicer to at them isntead of the actual mods of the game and have the message be sent across.
rigid crescent
They don't do that either
I mean I'm sure some of them could but it's also not their job. their job is to moderate the chat for people being stupid, that's it as far as i know
mortal pier
they justmoderate peopel that get to out of hand in the chat and give them a quick boot
rigid crescent
You're more likely to get your issue at least noticed by emailing the dev team from the email on the website, @ing chatmods gets little to nothing done
slate verge
well then you can always ping one of the devs
rigid crescent
You can't though 
I mean technically you could, you're not supposed to though for non-emergencies and I have yet to see anyone with an issue big enough to be considered an emergency
mortal pier
remember when it was so easy to ping a dev? al lyou had to do was
brb ima do whats called a pro gamer move and restart the old pc
molten gale
People these days...
molten gale
Welcome to vrchat
noble gust
Oof
naive flume
Can someone help I have objects with a shader on it and for some reason it disappears completely when i go too far from them and sometimes they just don't show but everything shows in the mirror
naive flume
Its not the shader either idk what it is..
uncut trail
Good headset (Rift S or Vive Cosmo) since index is out of question due to Australian Consumer Laws
noble gust
Look up reviews on each set
vocal shard
Rift S has good reviews now and I personally recommend it. The Vive cosmos has bad reviews all around for many reasons
muted bronze
valve index
vocal shard
They said other than the index
And not everybody can afford the index. Actually most can't
still lark
@uncut trail You could try a postal service to get around it. lol
uncut trail
Hmm but Rift S is cheaper
And i used Oculus Rift (Normal) and they discontinued it so couldn't able to buy new one)
still lark
Ah okay, price is also a factor.
vocal shard
The Rift S is worth it for the price.
cold talon
Unless you have too high/low of an ipd
vocal shard
Rift S comfortably accommodates 59-70 ipd according to user reviews, because of the new lenses having a large sweet spot.
(I'm 59mm and it works great for me)
Beyond that range, yeah it's an issue
snow wadi
I seriously don't get why is it when people ask for an affordable VR headset someone yells index, like what part of affordable VR headset did they not understand?
still lark
Good headset (Rift S or Vive Cosmo) since index is out of question due to Australian Consumer Laws
No one yelled index?
hollow sluice
Well they are rich. Get over it, youre gonna meet a lot of those People in the vr community
rigid crescent
expendable income = / = rich
snow wadi
Pretty much.
I could easily get am index but I have no interest in it with their current issues, especially with the controllers. And I move around a bit from place to place so portability does not exist with it either.
Index is a fantastic headset but it does have its problems.
rigid crescent
lol 1400 for vive 1.5 with the same controllers? 
vocal shard
O.O
90 is low now?
snow wadi
Apparently.
90 is fine for 90% of titles.
And for 10% it's not the end of the world.
In the end I'd rather have a working and reliable experience rather than an unstable and marred one.
vocal shard
What's the reason you want 2.0?
snow wadi
Was going to ask, unless it's for the new trackers.
Oof that's another thing I didn't like, even more cables.
muted bronze
@Jamie Vatarga#0944 if u cant afford dont buy
vocal shard
What?
muted bronze
index
vocal shard
Ok?...
muted bronze
i mean buy no vr at all
snow wadi
This guy is assuming people's budget problems now xD
muted bronze
this discord is so laggy
vocal shard
Wtf... You're saying index or nothing?
muted bronze
yea
snow wadi
You're not very good at basic conversation assessment are you?
rigid crescent
undesirable spotted
muted bronze
why spoil games, save spoilers till ur ready for full experience
vocal shard
I've been in the VR scene since 2014 working from the dev kits up to the Vive pro. Enjoyed every headset I've used, from cheap wmr to expensive sets. I wholeheartedly dissagree that the index is the only option worth using
snow wadi
I think this guy is trolling, he's the same one asking about the gsynvc monitor the ven after we have him the answer.
Basically, not a very bright one.
rigid crescent
thats why i called him an undesirable lol
snow wadi
Lmao night Jamie 
vocal shard
Night 
muted bronze
its hard to say anything when its so zlow and unresponsive chat
snow wadi
Get a better system.
rigid crescent
snow wadi
You like that response?
rigid crescent
snow wadi
No it's just you can't afford a better phone.
rigid crescent
works fine for me π€
snow wadi
π
muted bronze
spec wise its somewhat up to date
muted bronze
im gonna buy 1plus 7 t pro mclaren edition
rigid crescent
lol
snow wadi
I have a phone from 2015 and this channel runs like butter.
muted bronze
hope fixes it
rigid crescent
the personality equivalent of a wolfboy avatar
muted bronze
i dislike facebook thats all
snow wadi
Mic I spat my drink you bastard lmao
muted bronze
oculus works with facebook
rigid crescent
have you seen that npc world?
snow wadi
Please don't remind me...
rigid crescent
its so good π€€
snow wadi
My phone screen cracks whenever someone mentions that.
I think one more and the digitizer stops working.
umbral reef
Wait your getting that edition but at the same time you dont suggest buying anything but the index RN?
You know that edition of the 7T pro is really more led color change and some free wallpapers that look fluid?
lunar cedar
Does it at least have RGB? That should at least improve performance by 16bits π
cold talon
When phones had rgb, I miss those days
lunar cedar
I don't
umbral reef
Well it has an actual 4 more wham then the normal pro version. But as someone with 8Gb ram in there phone. Shit never gets fully used evne fi you want it to
cold talon
Maybe the man wants to use the ram as super fast storage, you never know
Just, don't ever turn it off
umbral reef
But its like paying 400 euro more for a pc with one extra ram stick while it already has 32Gb by default...
lunar cedar
Not everyone knows the value of RAM. Or the dollar for that matter
umbral reef
'But its orange and has new icons by default instead of me having to download a skin'
lunar cedar
The real value is the bragging rights
hollow sluice
Oh yes I love having RGB that lowers my battery life
cold talon
I was talking about the notification led 
lunar cedar
ohh, I thought you meant flashy RGB on the backpanel
cold talon
Rgb on any mobile device is a no no 
Only exception is keyboards as they are light up anyway.
ivory axle
i like glowy peripherals
hollow sluice
Its a Phone tho
You need all the battery You can fit it
Anf they waste it on rgb
ivory axle
oh a phone nvm then
thick temple
twin fractal
manic galleon
Womp
tacit plank
On the website, "Active" means online on the website, right?
broken plover
yes
tacit plank
Thanks
rigid crescent
or using an api tool, running in the background
heavy dawn
bunn ears
slim temple
pretty big bump in players today
like, real big
usually we don't see close to 10k on steam till 4:30pm est friday, so this is real huge
vocal shard
:o
covert blade
I've already seen 10k
heavy dawn
Is there a special event?
covert blade
For?
heavy dawn
I haven't played VRC in a few weeks. Which is funny because I upgraded my PC finally mostly because VRC used to lag. π
That and Beat Saber.
@covert blade Why the bump in players?
covert blade
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
heavy dawn
That's why I'm asking...
covert blade
It's friday
This is to be expected
Take me for example, I don't really bother with VR much midweek
heavy dawn
Yup! I was wondering why it was noteworthy for the same reason. Usually it's more people on a Friday. Maybe I'll hop on after work EST. π
slim temple
it's not crazy for a Friday (lately), they see 10k frequently, but usually not so early in the day, that's what I'm saying. Most people on the west coast of america are sleeping
heavy dawn
Just makes me think of playing WoW in like 2006 and having to wait in long queues after shool to even get into the game.
Using Amazon servers is probably the best/cheapest option for a smaller company to serve so many users with varying levels of demand. No way a small outfit would want to run all those servers themselves. π
slim temple
still, or just getting up, it's still like 850am, so that's really unusual in my opinion. Also, that's just steam. This does not count quest, oculus home, or players logged in without steam (rare, but they exist)
covert blade
Uhhh, false
The bot counts everyone currently connected no matter the platform.
Check the stats for Steam itself and you'll see how much it differs
slim temple
are you sure? news to me because steamdb says 8,846 right now
and that seems a little low for oculus/quest users
maybe most oculus rift cv1/s players log in with steamvr dashboard
covert blade
Considering we're on the official VRChat Discord where the developers can easily tell how many clients are connected, output that in an API and display it using a bot, yes I'm sure
Most players are desktop
Don't forget that.
slim temple
well yeah, just surprising. I guess that makes sense
I often do forget, lol - I've never used vrchat in desktop for more than 5 minutes in 5 years
covert blade
!Βonline says 9029 users, SteamDB says 8846
That's almost 200 users that seemingly disappeared into the void
9066 vs 8798 rn
Close, but definitely not the same
slim temple
200 or so on quest/oculus home which seems pretty low if you ask me
but that might be accurate
still, pretty high for early friday!
covert blade
Yeah, then again, most players are on desktop, a lot of people are using the Vive / Index / maybe another thing that runs via SteamVR, then you have Oculus users who might also use SteamVR and if they use FBT then they absolutely do
slim temple
tru fax
covert blade
I just wonder where all of those 9k players are once you're ingame
broken plover
private, friends+
mellow herald
Someone. Send me an ugly and funny profile picture I can use. (Atleast 500x500px and bigger)
whole turtle
I got you
faint skiff
@mellow herald You've got a mirror haven't you?
mellow herald
@faint skiff Yeah I do, but I want a funny+ugly one. Not an ugly one.
Thanks anyways
heavy dawn
awesomeface.gif
covert blade
@wet sedge Dunno, I'd argue that Booth models do have their benefits
Like actually being optimized and they don't look the exact heccing same as literally every other person in the room
slim temple
depends what you consider optimized!
but for pc they're not bad, no. They rely on alpha cutout a lot for some things.
covert blade
Aev's model has 1 mat and is 
or 
forgot which one.
slim temple
oh, for some reason I transposed booth with vroid
in my brain. Yes, booth models are generally absolutely fantastic
covert blade
Meanwhile other models have 50+ mats and achieve worse looks
slim temple
yep!
broken plover
I have 3! :D
vocal shard
With texture atlasing, almost any model can have one mat though
tender basin
.
covert blade
I consider it optimized if you did everything possible to achieve the look that you want with the effects that you want while trying to keep it as performance friendly as possible
vocal shard
But yeah, those booth models are really well done
faint skiff
Assuming they're fine with all using the same shader and shader configuration...
But yeah, most people don't give a shit about anyone else or their performance, so they just mangle stuff together and upload that. Asking them about it just gets you a "while I don't care / I don't know what I'm doing" response.
covert blade
Or in other words: The avatar shouldn't have an excessive amount of one thing for no particular reason
pseudo basalt
Probably just standard game asset practices
slim temple
I'm a huge fan of the 2a-7s basemesh by ζΎγι¨ε±
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4o-sgp8PSU this is around 5k polygons
pseudo basalt
While the bar is really low otherwise because mmd stuff is not made with game optimization in mind
slim temple
some beautiful texture edits and you can do almost anything. Plus they're cc-by licence!
faint skiff
Oh that one, I wasn't a fan at all and the hair is a mess (the fringe isn't even cut out properly).
slim temple
which means, super legal. You can edit all of that
vocal shard
I really need to learn blender more. I still do 90% of my stuff in PMX editor. I still achieve
But there's so many possibilities for creativity I feel I'm too stubborn to learn
slim temple
the fringe seems pretty good in the latest version.
I highly reccomend learning blender 2.8, it's amazing jamie
broken plover
blender 2.8 is pretty easy to learn if you follow all the tutorials
slim temple
I actually have a video teaching you how to edit 2a-7
broken plover
I watched 1 tutorial on how to start 3D modeling, and now I can do all the stuff I want
slim temple
but that's just one way of many
vocal shard
Ooh, nice
slim temple
hit 900 subs today too. Pretty shocked by that o.o
faint skiff
I'm finally starting to feel a little more confident in Blender, after probably 100 hours or so now..
broken plover
100hours? WHAT!? I only have 16hours... (but on the other hand, I just quickly go into blender, edit my avatar and export it again...)
covert blade
Meanwhile I couldnt be bothered to use Blender or Unity yet, especially because I wouldn't even know what model to use
vocal shard
@slim temple congrats!
broken plover
unity is pretty easy... but blender, oh boy is it complicated...
vocal shard
one more now
^^
slim temple
Unity for vrchat is pretty standard. However when you truly dig into unity it's far more complex. Because, of course, you're programming in c# and hlsl
slim temple
Learning the ins and outs of everything in blender doesnt take long. The difference is that blender requires massive artistic ability or at least you have to work with a designer
broken plover
I have no skills in programming in every language (except lua where I can do print("hello") and thats it)
but we started programming robots at school today
slim temple
C# is a fairly straightforward language. The robot programming will help you understand basic oop concepts and the rest will come easy.
covert blade
On a positive note though, the author of the avatar I mainly use does sell everything meaning I would have an already avatar that works with full body that I could mess around with
slim temple
For sure! It's so nice to have legal, unique and high quality optimized models now
faint skiff
Mine would all be Excellent or Good if not for dynamic bones.
broken plover
the program we used (mBot something idk) looked pretty complicated at first, but when our teacher told us where stuff is its pretty easy. And c# looks pretty easy from what I did with the robot (make it so I can drive it with the arrow keys)
covert blade
The only programming experience I have is a bit for GTA SA and a bunch of things for Arma 3
The latter being pretty easy if you can copypaste stuff from the wiki :p
broken plover
my avatar is only good because of bones. (not dynamic, armature bones) if it had less bones it would be excellent
covert blade
@glad bolt Also, I bet it costs far more than $200 if you commission something made from scratch
glad bolt
It was $200 in one of the avatar servers I was in.
Perhaps they were being generous/didn't know what to price it at?
covert blade
Huh
glad bolt
Honestly, those painstaking hours of work for a very specific model deserves more than $200
heavy dawn
Think about how much you'd like to make as an hourly rate for making 3D characters. Then multiply that by how many hours it'd take you. Probably a good starting point to figure out how much that work is worth.
$200 could be either 20 hours of $10/hr work or 4 hours of $50/hr work or anything in between. π€·
At that price I'm going to assume whoever it is automates a lot of the process.
glad bolt
Perhaps. I'll never know because they left to post on a different site.
slim temple
country matters too, and skill level.
heavy dawn
your FACE matters!
slim temple
someone whom is a novice might charge per piece with a flat rate but what you get may be imperfect. Something that is 100% as good as you would expect a AAA game asset to be will obviously charge more, and sometimes 200usd in some countries is a massive sum of money
glad bolt
Mmkay.
slim temple
though I think that people shouldn't sell themselves short! Don't get me wrong, artists deserve a lot more
faint skiff
I had someone try and give me $50 for ripping, rigging, cleaning up and importing an SFM model the other day. It took a while but I felt bad charging someone given that it wasn't my model so I just refused. It was a time investment but meh.
torn nebula
The going rate for from-scratch VRC avatars is something like $3000+ from what I hear. Obviously, putting together something from parts is way faster/cheaper, but a lot of the time that ends up being in violation of the licensing terms of the MMD models or whatever they're based off of
Eg if you look at the terms for Ukon-chan or TDA, you could use them in a public avatar but commercial use is forbidden
faint skiff
Most of the MMD parts are in violation of the licences of what they used in the first place anyway, it's violations all the way down.
(referring to other parts or entire models on DeviantArt for example)
ruby needle
3k+ ? nah
torn nebula
Yeah this is why I ended up making my avatar from booth parts will clear licensing terms
faint skiff
$500 to $1500 normally
umbral reef
Lmao 3K
Do they ship some gold with that to your home after its finished?
heavy dawn
I model a lot of mine from scratch but they kind-of look like it π€£
faint skiff
Then $200-500 for "redos"
torn nebula
$500 from a 100% from scratch model? Really?
ruby needle
@umbral reef well that might be a price for a game with commercial right and such
umbral reef
Pretty sure for high end games you pay not that much
Unless you make some special stuff
faint skiff
@torn nebula On the lower end, it's going to be more basic models, obviously.
Like a Kobold or something
ruby needle
For organic models (humanoids / animals) i am certain that is a possibility
torn nebula
Well I guess it does depend on complexity
ruby needle
that always
torn nebula
The $3000 figure is something I've seen floated around the JP community but probably refers to a fairly high complexity model
faint skiff
Sounds like someone's pipe-dream
heavy dawn
They also seem to be more willing to pay for skilled artists.
torn nebula
That too
There's a general acceptance of the idea that you need to pay for quality :)
faint skiff
$3000 isn't paying for quality, it's being ripped off
torn nebula
Or artist name value as well
heavy dawn
If someone spends a large chunk of a month to get it done I don't think that's too much to ask for professional skills.
torn nebula
Yep. If they can bang it out in three days then $500 is more like it
heavy dawn
Being cheap can be fun, finding the best deal and making the best of whatever minimal crap you can find. I enjoy it too. But there's something really pleasing about getting the exact right thing. Well thought out in every way.
faint skiff
I don't think I could get the exact right thing, well thought out in every way unless I was the artist, that's my issue.
I'd be paying for something that I'm just never happy with.
heavy dawn
I have that issue too, which is why I learned how to make 3D models. Also because I like to learn things.
Sometimes I commission people to do 2D art for me because I like their style but I always find things I would change. By the same token, each piece makes me happy in a different way. A different take on my characters.
faint skiff
I mean, I work over 42 hours or so a week and it barely feels like I have time for VRC itself. Getting good at 3D modelling AND texturing is basically a pipe-dream at that point.
heavy dawn
Nah. First you get not-good, then you keep doing it. Maybe an hour a night. Eventually you get gud. π
I want to learn zbrush now that you remind me. The way I learned to do 3D character modelling was from the YouTube videos by Darrin Lyle. Just draw out 2D art of side and front and extrude ploys, then tex/wp/rig, etc.
quaint summit
maybe try a avatar world
snow wadi
Looking for specific avatars in public avatar worlds can be a little tough, if you can't find one out there then there's a chance you would need to do some googling.
faint skiff
@heavy dawn Well having no 2D art skill is certainly not going to help then...
heavy dawn
I sent you a link to a n64 style Geno character model.
You might be able to input that into mixamo.com to auto-rig it and then import it unti Unity yourself. The instructions are pinned here somewhere. Probably in the #avatars-2-general channel
snow wadi
As Little said, head to that channel and start there.
There'll be wonderful folks that will give you some pointers.
heavy dawn
I guess you'll have to wait until you find one someone else made if you can't install Unity and upload an avatar yourself.
sour lily
so burnt out of modeling tbh
and just working in general. my brain just gets to fixed to work on my hobbies but then i get so tired of working but i dont stop
each day i do something different, one day im working on figuring out blender, the next day im editing textures, the next day im studing the ai of the rebels from hl2 in action...
its really tiresome but eh. my fault i guess.
glad bolt
Perhaps it's time to take a break and recharge your batteries so to speak?
faint skiff
What mic is it?
sour lily
a rockband microphone.
faint skiff
Interesting choice
subtle island
Is anyone else experiencing loading screens that just stay at 00.00B or 0% out of "nothing"?
modern ledge
hi
vocal shard
formal lagoon
i was wandering if there is a way to see when an offline friend was last online?
vocal shard
On the website
formal lagoon
do i log in with steam or smt? is there a guide somewhere?
vocal shard
Oh, if you don't have a vrchat account, I would recommend making one, and then linking your steam vrchat account to it. That way you will be able to upload content in vrchat and other perks
To link the account.
Make a new account on the website.
Then launch the game on steam as normal in desktop mode. Open the settings menu and press upgrade. It will give you a code and instructions to complete the link process
someone wanna play w me?
indigo fern
ah, i remember 478 hours
molten gale
I got mine at 270
winter fog
most people ive heard talking about it have got it at 800+
glad bolt
Oof, I just past 469 hours and I'm going to try to stay Known for as long as possible.
night pike
The website friends list is kinda buggy. Sometimes it shows wrong last online date as if they were not online recently even if you saw them online even for longer time in vrchat.
Same with ingame friends list. Sometimes it just stops updating so you cant tell if someone moved worlds or went offline or came online.
formal lagoon
Rip then i guess
sour lily
hnnng
formal lagoon
I just created a vrchat account on the website. So how do i get the " account link token " from steam?
glad bolt
I feel like the Oculus mic was better than Vive
vocal shard
The Oculus mic was better
glad bolt
Index is by far the best, though.
vocal shard
@formal lagoon log into the game with your steam account. In game open the settings menu, and press the upgrade button to get the token
glad bolt
It's noticably lower quality based on what friends told me, Kyoho
vocal shard
Vive mic is noticably worse. Not "bad".. but it sounds low cut
formal lagoon
Thx @vocal shard
vocal shard
NP ^^
covert blade
Imo the Vive mic is kinda garbage
glad bolt
Yep.
covert blade
I have a mic on my desk and compared to that, the Vive mic is low quality
vocal shard
Well yeah
glad bolt
I had a studio mic on the off chance that I played on desktop and people preferred that.
covert blade
Unfortunately I cant really use my desk mic because to get the best possible quality and volume, I would need to be right in front of it
glad bolt
I used to be a streamer, I didn't buy it for fun
vocal shard
glad bolt
Oh, that's a rip
covert blade
My headphones are just that, headphones
Using my desk mic also has the problem of reverb
People can just tell that I'm yelling around in the middle of my room
undone sierra
yeah, i figured it would sound weird
covert blade
Also volume will greatly differ based on where I'm looking
Headsets
Attachable mics
There's a free USB port that you can use
formal lagoon
are there any fun worlds? i have 40 hrs in game and i ve spent like 35 in karaoke and the rest in murder 2 and never have i ever. kinda bored of the same thing ^^
covert blade
Open the Worlds menu and you literally have a ton of worlds to go to, including popular ones
Yes on the Vive
You'll need an adapter, of course but you can use it
That's how people managed to install their attachable mics
Now if you have a wireless headset, you already have a relatively good mic
But since I've decided to use just wireless headphones and a mic on my desk I dont really have that option
vocal shard
Yeah, if you have a Vive, you can use the USB port. Oculus CV1 had a better mic already. The New Rift S has a good mic, and wmr has a mic/headphone jack for headsets.
Then the Odyssey and valve index have dual mics. Index is the best sounding overall
covert blade
So I'm just screwed basically
hollow breach
So Basically
Iβm Monkey
swear to god if I get banned for that comment ima go reeeeee
vocal shard
Or get a good gaming headset that costs less than all of these options...Β―\ (γ)/Β―
covert blade
Ideally, already have one anyways
vocal shard
Like the Corsair void pro rgb white edition which is what I run
covert blade
That's why I've been looking at the Modmic for a while too
vocal shard
Try Goodwill, I got a mic from there for my motorcycle helmet for 2 dollars
Been using it for the past 3 years in rain and snow
covert blade
Using a completely different headset would completely nullify me buying my current headphones
snow wadi
I think rgb headsets are silly, no one is going to see the rgb except my walls.
vocal shard
There's also people who like rgb
covert blade
So you can look fancy in your stupid lil facecam
snow wadi
Even then you would be forced to look at certain angles to show them off.
vocal shard
My mouse, keyboard, and headphones all sync colors
And why call it a stupid little facecam..
undone sierra
wrong. I use RGB ram and an RGB case because the lights make the pc run faster. It probably makes the sound sound better too
And the stickers on a nascar racecar is what gives it its speed.
vocal shard
It's 5 horsepower per led diode or sticker
undone sierra
fact
covert blade
The only two things I have that are RGB are my keyboard and a lil light on my mouse
snow wadi
Same here Mason.
covert blade
And the RGB isn't the reason I bought this specific mouse
You have to change the instance
vocal shard
wHy hAvE rGb oN yOuR mOuSE iTs cOvErEd bY yOuR hAnD
covert blade
Because taking my mouse apart to get rid of the RGB would be too much effort
snow wadi
My close friends pc is a Christmas tree with all the rgb lol.
covert blade
Nope
covert blade
Actually I just remembered the third thing
My GPU is technically RGB as well, but my monitor is currently covering the case so I cant see it
vocal shard
I'm a streamer, and people have found it funny when my headset lights up when I get hit in game or I die.
covert blade
lol
vocal shard
I'm kind of popular in the league of legends community for streaming, so I think my anecdote is valuable.
Bro, even my ram is rgb. And my water-cooler.
pure hemlock
Is there anything we can do to alert vrchat devs of a user who is a rampant pedophile so they can start an investigation with the police or something
vocal shard
First things first, #moderation-reports to make sure a proper report is sent in and logged. If it is an emergency, you can probably DM one of them. Although they may still ask to go through the mod report.
Probably police
Lmfao
pure hemlock
They need to be more than banned. Legal action needs to be taken. Will vrchat facilitate that since their social platform is being used as a tool for pedophiles to hook up with underage people. I live in a different country than the guy so I don't think I can personally do much nor do I know where in the states he live.
I don't know anything about how this stuff is supposed to work inside or outside a social game.
vocal shard
If you care enough then file a cyberpolice report, they work with all countries in the world
But all vrchat can do is ban them
Every platform is being used as a tool for pedophiles to hook up with underage people, including discord
turbid trellis
Guys I fucked up, I accidentally hit the FullBody calibration, and now my head is positioned inside my neck, I use Windows Mixed Reality please help
turbid trellis
I did, it automatically goes back to the rigging t pose thing
And afterwards, I can't move
vocal shard
i need help
lunar shell
echo tulip
dark dagger
Does anybody notice some connection error right now?
vocal shard
What trust level do you need to be to be able to upload to the community labs?
slate verge
blue / new user
deft girder
You need to have User trust rank to have access to community labs
rigid crescent
JP VRC: Ay let's release an album https://youtu.be/fA883OEwkC0
NA VRC: "lol i crashed this dude last week it was poggers"
vestal pier
real wholesome hours
rigid crescent
ok.
twin fractal
big f to crashers
safe ibex
does anyone know where i can find the avatar that has scissors, a brush and a spray can used to simulate cutting someone's hair?
vernal forge
there is a haku loli hairdresser avatar with them , not sure about the world name tho
red current
its been done, my htc vive is on the way
ruby needle
Β§15. No posting the same question or statement across multiple channels.
Thank you
twin fractal
dude just got epically dabbed on
red current
didn't realise sorry, my bad
flint sundial
vocal shard
Hello
sharp saddle
Is it just me or does it lag really badly in VR when loading people in compared to desktop?
ruby needle
@sharp saddle No PePe
vocal shard
then its normal
covert blade
It's a silly rule so understandable
sharp saddle
Like, I'd join a friend of mine in a crowded area, people loading in slowly then "You have lost connection to the VRChat servers."
vocal shard
That's just you
vocal shard
I've only crashed one time, ever. Perhaps its just your computer, maybe something needs upgraded?
sharp saddle
Could it be the Oculus version being worse than SteamVR?
vocal shard
What headset
sharp saddle
Rift S.
covert blade
The game is the same
ruby needle
i mean, Oculus forces you onto the new version so everyone should be affected.
vocal shard
Im Vive Pro
sharp saddle
In desktop mode, everything loads very smoothly. In VR, it's a choppy mess as people load in. Too many load-ins causes disconnect.
minor horizon
anyone here able to nurse me in a chat?
i can't edit my avatar to say im scared, so i need someone to join me
proud zinc
Hey guys, whenever I try to get out of the room in VR something downloads the first was 45MB and after I downloaded it, I got another 45MB for how long it will be like that?
twin fractal
I think that's just normal
proud zinc
Okay will download it xD
manic urchin
Anyone know of a world with non scp characters// thats like 'scary'
broken plover
HDS Dungeons are good scary maps (with a story thats pretty good for a vrc world)
manic urchin
I mean like avatars mainly
broken plover
oh.. idk
nimble lantern
do you guys remember the post like 2 years ago saying desktop users will the Ability to point and move the hand/pointer to wherever we want. (not the emote)
broken plover
and use gestures to move fingers
moving hands/arms without motion controllers would be really hard to achieve
left peak
hey is anyone else having black screen issues on the oculus cv1?
ruby needle
blackscreen issues in what way?
left peak
i can play for like 3 minutes then i just got black screened still got sound and can interqact with stuff i just cant see
been using vr in the same set up fort over a year and just now having this issue
ruby needle
Are you using the Steam version of Oculus home version?
left peak
steam
ruby needle
Does it only happen with VRChat?
left peak
every game only reason i asked is because 2 days ago a oculus update happened and had no other area to ask if anyone else was having the issue
night depot
looks at them
ruby needle
Normally it should either completely not work or work
broken plover
I had that happen to me too but only rarely, and replugging my hdmi cable worked (I have a wmr tho)
left peak
forgot to mention it would also flash yellow \every now and then during te 3 minmutes
then just poof
broken plover
are your graphics card drivers up to date? That might cause some issues if theyre not up to date...
rain isle
The default dynamic bone limit is 32 transforms and 8 collissions, rite
vocal shard
ruby needle
I belive that is correct
vocal shard
@left peak I have the people and also had that issue. I unplugged everything and it worked after I plugged everything back in. Not sure if its the same issue as your having
nocturne olive
How come I can't selct anyone to friend them or mute them or wte? Anyone else having this issue?
covert blade
Desktop or VR?
nocturne olive
Vr
Nvm. I think my internet was just being poop cause my saved avatrs wernt showing up either
covert blade
Probably. I only really have that issue on Desktop as my cursor regularly disappears entirely
left peak
@vocal shard yeah sadly that did not fix it ive done full reinstalls and new ports and the issue is still there i think my vr might be dead π¦
vernal forge
are you using hdmi extension ?
vocal shard
Can a headset just die for no reason? ); now I'm paranoid. When will my time come?
covert blade
Technically everything will eventually cease to work
covert blade
Depending on how you threat it, it might last a really long time or break rather quick
left peak
@vernal forge
covert blade
You'd be surprised how long things can last but generally speaking, everything can and will break eventually. @vocal shard
left peak
i was never rough with mine so idk what happened
i have been using it daily for over a year and a half though
vocal shard
Try testing on another PC
vernal forge
well , you could have the cable replaced , since it still has sounds ?
vocal shard
That wayyoucan be sure its not your pc
vocal shard
look on amazon or ebay
wintry fulcrum
Sounds like the cord to the headset is broken
wintry fulcrum
you can always try Amazon or Ebay
vernal forge
i found one just by searching it on ebay , it is pretty costly though
covert blade
Let me guess: Rift?
vocal shard
Sell your soul for a new one. Problem solved.
left peak
yes
covert blade
Hmm, yes, sadly the company behind it really doesn't care much about their customers
left peak
@vernal forge i dont see any on ebay
vernal forge
there are like 5 results when you type in oculus rift headset cable
covert blade
Hmm random question: Does HTC still sell replacement cables since they're not selling the Vive anymore?
left peak
when i type that word for word
vernal forge
can't help you there
wintry fulcrum
yeah no sites are selling that specific item
vernal forge
try typing in oculus rift headset cable instead of just cable
left peak
nothing
vernal forge
unfortunate , i have used up my willpower to search
vocal shard
Paste the URL for him lol
left peak
you said you found 5 can you lin k me one of them?
vernal forge
wintry fulcrum
149$ wow lol
covert blade
That's a lil expensive don't ya think?
vernal forge
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-4-Meter-Headset-Cable-for-Oculus-Rift-CV1-BRAND-NEW-OEM-PARTS/223688945204?hash=item3414e66e34:g:0I8AAOSwPjZdk4tp
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OCULUS-RIFT-CV1-HEADSET-CABLE-Limited-Worldwide-Supply-Youre-going-to-need-1/223695578530?hash=item34154ba5a2:g:yGsAAOSwSpZdmq12
covert blade
200 bucks
left peak
yeah fuck that\
vernal forge
well , i did say it's expensive
umbral reef
They dont make the cable anymore. They are 'thinking' about making them again.
Check your warrenty to see if you can return them else your SOL because facebook π
covert blade
Oculus what have you done
ruby needle
scam sellers 
left peak
it was only a year sadly
twin fractal
no breakup cables
left peak
i got it june last year
twin fractal
very bad
covert blade
High demand and low supply, not really scam FPaul
vocal shard
I have a rift I'm not using but isn't the cord connected to the headset
vernal forge
i had looked it up before to get a spare but the price is kinda crazy for me
vocal shard
maybe I have a different version
covert blade
Meanwhile I wonder if HTC would keep selling replacement cables for the Vive but at least in the EU, you can still buy the Vive on their official website
vernal forge
or you can buy a used rift and take off the cable
vocal shard
This headset?
left peak
the og rift
covert blade
left peak
cv1
vocal shard
Okay that's the one I have
I was gonna see if it'd disconnect since I don't use it
I have vive pro, 100% better lol
vernal forge
you could try to unplug the cable from the headset and try again if it works
it could be loose
left peak
already did
umbral reef
The thing with VR is you pay for the serivce also.
Buying a quest means you buy into a locked platform. Buying the Rift (all versions) mean you are at the mercy of facebook.
vocal shard
SOL
left peak
?
ruby needle
with the official quest link stuff one can argue if its a limited platform or actually a more extended platform
umbral reef
Laughs in them trying to push down on sideloading
left peak
@vocal shard whats up?
vocal shard
?
left peak
you said sol
vocal shard
Oh I was telling you your shit out of luck
umbral reef
Facebook lies. They are build on lies. They work on lies and they work for money.
You honestly think they will allow any sortware to load things to there ow so magical quest? Maybe with a legally forced work around but il be amazed if its anything proper compared to how currently the Rift works. @ruby needle
vocal shard
SOL
I have a question to ask. When does my trust level go to "New User". I had to make a new profile to upload an Avatar, since Steam profiles don't work.
left peak
ik why is that
vocal shard
because you can't get a cord lol
ruby needle
What are you talking about... i mean the official using the quest as a pcvr headset version with the cable
no sideloading of third party stuff
umbral reef
@vocal shard You can merge your VRchat and Steam account to merge all 'trust' data but also friends and favorite avatars (if you havent favorited anything on the VRC acc yet)
vocal shard
Oh really?
umbral reef
@ruby needle I know what im talking about. There is a reason i even listed the headset name.
Unless they force the pc to do all the work. Make the PC host the games and have it be different then the quest store (So not the current only quest store) it will not be the golden goose they always promise
vocal shard
What? The quest with link has already been confirmed to run steamvr games... So there's that
twin fractal
ofc the PC is gonna do all the work
that's like the point of it having a direct connection and not running on its built in android shit
vocal shard
How much time does it take to go into a 'New User' though.
@vocal shard it's different for everyone. It's not strictly time based
twin fractal
@vocal shard I played a few hours for like 3 days
vocal shard
That's strange.
I had like 40 hours on my last account and it's still 'Visitor;
It's based more on activity. Like going out, and exploring worlds and interacting with others
umbral reef
Then unless they break there store pollicies and make some devs highly pissed off for making the stores combined. You will still need PC games and Quest games...
umbral reef
So its still a fairly shit deal if your a quest to pc person instead of the other way around.
twin fractal
no. they confirmed that you will not
vocal shard
They have two modes ... As people have experienced. Normal, the quest is the same as it was before. When plugged in, it switches to the desktop client, and it can run the rift games, and steamvr games. I don't see what's wrong with that.
left peak
is link out yet?
vocal shard
November
left peak
damm :\
vocal shard
And the official cable is out next year. Until then, you have to use your own cable
umbral reef
Im talking about there will be two platforms for the quest.
Quest quest and Pc quest. Pc quest wont be able to use the Quest quest store unless they go back on promises they made in the past.
Its why you have to pay double for a fair bit of games even if you have the PC version of them and not the quest version.
vocal shard
Ok?... Yeah... Remember there are also people who buy things like Skyrim 3 or 4 times. I don't think there's a huge deal with buying things twice for what realistically is still separate platforms
molten gale
I have minecraft 4 times lmao
umbral reef
Skyrim is also overrated (for the bugs in it) and gets badly ported c:
There is a reason we got fallout 76 and the fallout from that.
molten gale
terraria and stardew valley twice aswell
umbral reef
@vocal shard And they can, as they did with the original quest launch sponsor/support devs to make crossplatform work. But they gave up on that and so far no words about doing it reversed now.
And to my original point. Why would i need to buy an extra cable to use the platform in the way i want it?
(And the fact they stated they are 'cracking down on sideloading' (what they havent done yet))
I love the headset from a technical perspective but the platform is just a no
vocal shard
Because the cable that came with the headset is 2.0
twin fractal
lol
umbral reef
So i pay for an upgrade to make it so i have to rebuy all my games?
vocal shard
WTF...
No, you pay for an upgrade that lets you play games you didn't have access to before
twin fractal
or if you don't want it that bad, just don't??
umbral reef
I understood ya wrong on that one. Thought you meant the cable you buy would be like that.
@twin fractal I got myself a quest on company expenses. Enjoy it greatly. Will still bitch about consumer rights and unfairness. Its the same that i bitch about apple software and pretty much all platforms that are not 'fair' in a consumer perspective.
vocal shard
The sideloading issue is imo, a case of PC users getting too used and entitled to using things as they were not intended.
Any game console company... For example Nintendo, would do exactly the same thing if it was their product. The risk of their product being open to pirated content is a concern for them as a company. So it's completely understandable from their viewpoint to try patching out something that is not intended
umbral reef
Legally required to have the option to do so though
Those companies sell a license to work for there platform that has rules. Oculus has all say and all rights for there platform.
Also some things they use (andriod stuffo) mean they are following a bit different laws. If facebook make everything new from A to Z it would not apply.
left peak
so update oculus support says it does not look like a cable issue and they dont know whats wrong as the logs look good
twin fractal
oof
hidden mortar
hi
faint skiff
Yikes, I remember people saying how low tris models are in games. I was just working on Johnny Cage and without props he's ~150,000
ivory frost
I'm not sure how much Oculus has helped fund VRchat. That might change when they launch horizons, but I can confirm Vrchat has sold me more expensive hardware than any other game. It is the reason I upgraded my computer, and today it was the reason I ordered an Index when otherwise I'm still completely happy with my CV1 in every other game except for having to do a hybrid setup for FBT in Vrchat.
twin fractal
vrchat is 70% of the reason I'm even getting into vr
ruby needle
All this cable talk made me just sleeve my cable 
i should sell it for 200 and buy a new HMD 
ivory frost
It will be interesting to see how things go with facebook Horizons. I'm not personally too interested, but there are only so many users to pass around. All the excitement about the new users Quest might bring to VR will be lost if they all stay inside Oculus apps.
vocal shard
who wanna play
ivory frost
I don't even know what my point was now. Basically Vrchat had plenty of room to be monetized somehow, as proven by the hardware it sells, but I don't know how it is going to shape up with so much competition on the horizon. Except maybe Valve and HTC should definitely keep sending checks before facebook forms a social VR monopoly too.
fringe shoal
VRChat was the sole reason I got VR. I wanted to play non-vr games too but turns out I get severe motion sickness from it compared to playing VRChat.
faint skiff
Giving Facebook any more power or control at all is a future nightmare waiting to happen, as much as people like to ignore it.
proud zinc
Is there anyone wanna talk here or in VR?
rigid crescent
Why would I play any VR social game where I can't be whatever I want? There's no way Facebook could allow that the way other games do
twin fractal
agreed
umbral reef
@ivory frost If people want a properly polished social vr game there is already recroom but without the facebook and well made minigames
Horizon will be or too harshly moderated or not harshly enough for its target group and from what we have seen its not better then recroom. Only has a big company pushing it...
ivory frost
Well my point is, there's more to VR than just what we want. The people being brought in because a Quest landed the opportunity in their lap have no idea what they want, and if they find facebook Horizons first they may never explore much beyond it.
I found VRchat first, and I have Rec Room and Altspace both installed, but have barely ever used either.
umbral reef
That might be a thing but more in a negative light as in people try it out. label social VR as not fun and dont try it again (in any form)
faint skiff
AltSpace and RecRoom aren't really competitors to VRC, that's more Neos and Lavender.
umbral reef
Are any even close to competitors in playerbase beside recroom?
And recroom is targeting outside of VR recently also. Mobile market is in there target group now also.
ivory frost
Mobile is a good fit for rec room, although it will probably upset their usuals, but I think they already forced an adjustment when they added desktop users to their VR only start too.
rigid crescent
I mean going by Numbers REc Room is more of a comeptitor
ivory frost
I haven't been playing a lot lately. It still seems I can find plenty of people, but it does seem like it is a little harder than before Christmas 2018 when I first started playing.
rigid crescent
The issue that's always existed is still here as well. VRC has a name, everyone is already here. A better product could come out tomorrow and it'd still struggle just ecause everyone has so much invested in multiple ways in VRC. Whether it be friends, work, a "name", etc
ivory frost
I hope that holds true Mic, and yeah, if very few active players venture away, VRC will still have some quality life left even if they fail to grow. At some point though money will be a factor.
vocal shard
I think it's reached that point where everything else would be considered a VRC clone... And unless it has something that really stands out, everything else is in vrchat's shadow
rigid crescent
There's plenty of skilled creators that plan on moving playforms eventually I'm sure, but unless something truly amazing comes from it, most people I've talked to are content just "hanging out"
I'm sure the other games with better options will have their playerbases, but at this point being better isn't enough, they'd have to really push the envelope
ivory frost
But since Vrchat exists on funding and doesn't actually generate revenue, who funds it when there are more players? How much of that funding came from Oculus as well?
umbral reef
none
ruby needle
Afaik Oculus only parnered with the Quest launch thingy.
umbral reef
And they did that with loads of devs because they wanted games on there platform.
Actually dope tho
ivory frost
I think HTC just proved themselves clueless with the Cosmos, but still I think HTC and Valve would both be well served by keeping VRchat afloat.
vocal shard
Yeah... Cosmos was an unfortunate letdown. I was excited for it
ivory frost
VRC added finger support for the Index which was great. FBT already makes Vive and Valve great options for VRC...maybe if Valve could help bring some additional Index support to VRchat...
If Cosmos could have matched the cost of a Rift S it would be something, but for me already having trackers and stations, there was absolutely no reason to even think about a cosmos. If base stations could track the cosmos controllers, I might have paused at that possibility.
They are going to offer a $200 faceplate to make it track with Steam but then what? Use wands or use Index controllers? It makes no sense.
compact river
Wait how much do they want for it?
vocal shard
Probably by default, you can use the controllers as normal through inside out tracking, and it helps sync the lighthouses and inside out tracking for things like pucks as well. But yeah realistically what you pay for a proper Lighthouses settup with the cosmos is more than an index
compact river
Wait how much do they want for it?
ivory frost
I think the idea was to appeal to existing Vive users, but it doesnt.
vocal shard
ivory frost
$799 for the Cosmos and it would be $200 more for the lighthouse adapter plate when it launches later.
vocal shard
Mhmm.
ivory frost
or was it $699?
compact river
A bit expensive for inside out
ivory frost
Horrible reviews though. Apparently it has a sweet spot for comfort and a sweet spot for visual fidelity and the two are separate from each other.
vocal shard
Yeah. Reviews are bad. Also, 2 hours batteries for the controllers, which apparently tracks worse than wmr
compact river
O gross
ivory frost
It's just a disaster all the way around, and so late to the game too. I don't understand it. I guess there just wasn't a good place to jump the ship before launching the product.
umbral reef
that tracking was a miscommunication last time i checked
vocal shard
But even the headset tracking was bad if light changed at all from the optimal
umbral reef
(the time, the tracking is indeed shit from what i seen)
compact river
So expensive wmr nice
vocal shard
I think they had an idea, but shifted their focus mid way to try beating the competition, and failed to deliver
(except it's worse than wmr in it's current state. Near unplayable for some people)
compact river
Welp lets hope they started work on index 2
trail lintel
i just want a better controller for WMR
compact river
No hope for the others trust in gaben for the future
vocal shard
i mean... They're obviously developing new prototypes even now. But I think it's going to be atleast 3 years for a new index
vocal shard
Curious where the Oculus half dome will go from here
With the varifocal lenses they showed
ivory frost
My biggest hesitation and debate about the Index was the controllers. For all that went into their development and how many people had so many previous dev kits, I can't believe they weren't better than they are. Seems like they would have known to ditch the trackpad and get a good joystick.
Of course the trackpads on wands is actually quite nice except that it doesn't allow for ergonomic controllers. The strange thing they put on the Index doesnt make sense
Vrchat got me though. With my original Rift I was in good enough shape to skip the Index, and the rest. I bought a Quest use Virtual Desktop with my laptop. It's nice to actually read text, but in games the higher resolution wasn't a big deal and my Rift was more comfortable , better sound, better tracking, and bullet proof touch controllers with good balance...
Once you go FBT in Vrchat you can't go back. I have been using a hybrid setup which was better than using wands but the Index controllers now offer an acceptable alternative. I get to free up four USB ports and not have to run Oculus software and Steam VR at the same time.
rigid crescent
It's funny that despite all the work that went into them and testing from real people and not just dev teams they fall apart like nothing
Around the start, only a handful of people I knew were having issues. Now people I've met with either HMD issues (that Valve clumsily tries to troubleshoot instead of RMAing when it's obviously a hardware issue) or controller issues has hit double digits
ivory frost
I debated my switch for quite some time, but I have a friend that has had an Index for over a month that was also using a hybrid setup like me. He highly recommends and Index and his PC isn't even outstanding.
rigid crescent
I absolutely hate how gestures are handled on the controllers, so I don't see myself making the switch anytime soon. I use them a lot since facial expression is a big deal for me ingame, and it's so clumsy on the index controllers
slow halo
I'm looking forward to the advancement of VR tech so I can just be the character. Facial expression tracking, eye tracking, hand tracking, full body
Even if I'm at home covered in stuff, if I can be made to feel like I'm really there, sign me up
extra nice if haptics and interactable environments/clothes/whatever are included
ivory frost
I've never really paid attention to my facial gestures in game. I like the ability to turn gesture animations off entirely so I no longer accidently trigger animations while just chatting.
slow halo
I'd like to be able to look into a mirror, smile in real life, and have my avatar mimic what I'm doing. Puts me there more, you know?
rigid crescent
I think there's limits to what seems cool and what's actually just excessive, constant facial tracking is more towards excessive to me
ivory frost
Actually the biggest challenge I have heard about that I will probably be annoyed by is the lack of a physical grip button.
I've just had avatars that I was happy with generally and later discovered the majority of the time I was making the most absurd facial expressions while chatting. Pick a friendly character and find out I'm scowling menacingly 95 percent of the time...
slow halo
I guess since I use my custom avatars 99% of the time, and all of them have some sort of subtle smile tied to most of the hand motions, it's never really occurred to me
ivory frost
I guess I better get back to school work. But yeah, I just hope VRchat navigates the changing VR landscape carefully, because it's great. The game has literally sold me on thousands in PC hardware, etc that I otherwise would not have spent. If they make good decisions there should be some way VRchat could become a permanent and profitable part of the VR landscape for many more years.
vocal shard
How do peopl get text to show up under their username?
ivory frost
But I think they have to come up with a plan B though. I just don't see how they keep getting millions in funding in an increasingly crowded VR landscape where monetization becomes less and less possible with every new free alternative. Seems like some DLC of some sort would be the way to go. Maybe sell adverts on the loading screens?
vocal shard
nvm, I can't post pics lol
finite sierra
A bit closer to Halloween
polar jasper
@vocal shard you can upload it to imgur and post the link, maybe then we'll get what you're looking at
covert blade
You can delete messages ya know
covert blade
Oh that's easy
polar jasper
Oh, thats status text
covert blade
Ingame, go to Social and there's a button for the Status Text
vocal shard
I'm just an idiot. Thanks.. Lol
covert blade
Nah not really
It's reasonable to assume that this is something you can do on the website because it shows on the website
I actually kinda wish you could do it on the website
vocal shard
Yeah, the website was how I assumed people were doing it. Didn't think to try in game.
covert blade
Maybe in the future we'll be able to do it via the website
Fun lil story from VRChat:
We were playing Murder 2, person came up hitting on a female friend who was there as well, then started mocking me for my username "Sasha Mason" (>Sasha< in particular)
At first I tolerated it cuz ya know, people joke around about a lot of things but he just kept going and going and going and started doing the same thing with other people as well, then he came back to me right in my face and kept mocking me
Then I muted him, literally 2 seconds later he blocked me and his friend insulted me and then blocked me as well.
Eventually a few others + me started spamming vote kicks on those two guys, so, yeah, managed to piss off a whole bunch of people.
fringe shoal
Sounds like that's their problem, but you know, people tend to get a little kick off of starting something. In a way, I see it all the time. (Not in VRChat. If it does happen its mostly banter) I just never get involved.
covert blade
It's better not to get involved tbh, but in my case that wasn't really possible because it was mostly directed towards me
But hey, they'll be on their way to nuisance soon
This was both a depressing and hilarious situation
Literally his friend was like "Fuck you Sasha I'm blocking you" and then poof
Meanwhile I had to tolerate someone muting me (and as far as others have told me, a lot of others in that instance) for the entire time that they were there :I
fringe shoal
It happens. It's just one of those days. I usually leave places that bother me since it might not be worth staying.
vocal shard
Was it a little kid
fringe shoal
They sound like grown people to me but who knows.
covert blade
I mean, doesn't really matter if they have me muted because it was Murder 2 and I didnt really had a reason to talk to them but seeing that giant mute icon the entire time is a lil upsetting after a while π
vocal shard
I feel like older people are less likely to that. I had a 9 year old trying to bully me last week and I'm 27 yeads old. π
Anytime I talked "no one cares dumb lady". Eventually all the other little kids told him to leave. (It was 10am and the room was all little kids)
fringe shoal
At a young age it's pretty fun to be like that but after a while they'll understand or not depending.
I mean I did that back then when chatting with a "bot" back when AOL was a thing
I felt bad afterward
vocal shard
I don't take it personally, I usually just ignore it or tell them I'm ignoring them without muting. I've never muted anyone before. Not even sure how
fringe shoal
I get that sort of mentality of not muting people but I end up doing it sometimes because I can't hear someone else that might be speaking
covert blade
The problem (?) with mutes is that they are fully aware of that
vocal shard
I just tell them to shut up and they listen most of the time
covert blade
What if they have a shitty mic though where you can hear yourself 
vocal shard
I ran into that,yesterday, told the guy and he immediately muted himself
i must have magic powers lol
covert blade
Huh
But usually as far as others have told me, when they mute people they just ask someone else to ask them why they muted them
vocal shard
So what's it look like when someone mutes me?
covert blade
You'll see a big ear icon with a rex X
Meanwhile they'll just see the speak icon but it's grayed out
vocal shard
I think I got muted the other day and I'm just now realizing it. I'm a bit salty now
covert blade
And a grayed out red X in front of the speak icon instead of the.. uhh ))) thingies
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
People mute block and hide avatar for the weirdest of reasons
vocal shard
I have the basic robot icon, must've just me they had a problem with lol
covert blade
You can be the nicest person that has ever existed and people will still find reasons to block you
fringe shoal
I mean we wouldn't be compatible anyways if they're like that.
That's just how I see it.
I like to meet new people, but if that's how it is then I don't think we'd get along very well.
covert blade
But really the problem with muting specifically is that the person who got muted sees that giant crossed out ear icon on your nametag
fringe shoal
Yeah I think it'd be better if it was anonymous.
Everyone does have their reasons to do so.
covert blade
I mean I can see the point of why it exists because that way the muted person knows that they cant be heard, likewise the person who muted can also see that the muted person is currently talking
vocal shard
I'm going to try and figure out how to mute people tonight. Guess its better than yelling for someone to turn their mic off lok
covert blade
The problem is just that people get upset 'bout it, even though in my specific case they're were just being douchy about it
Go around piss off the whole instance and then get salty because ya got muted
fringe shoal
Yeah, I've seen that before. A noisy person interrogating another for a reason on why they were muted.
covert blade
Then again it's a nice way of filtering out the bad apples ya know?
Any sane person would've either just accepted it or asked their friend. Also for all I know, people might mute unintentionally
I know of one case where someone managed to block me unintentionally and I noticed it, asked someone else to tell them, he told them and then they unblocked me again
Meanwhile I've managed to accidentally send friend requests a couple of times :I
vocal shard
The karaoke room is a great place to mute people. My ears always feel like they are gonna fall off when I hear some people.
that was mean.. I'm kidding.
covert blade
Also one confusing thing is that you can mute people via safety settings and it'll still show the icon, except unlike manually muting it isn't directed towards a specific person
Gets ya some interesting reactions too
vocal shard
No idea how to mute so not sure what your talking about
covert blade
It's a configurable system that can disable certain avatar features for specific ranks
rigid crescent
If only there was an official tutorial world like the JP tutorial world :3
vocal shard
I'm not even new. I've had my account for like a year and have about 50 hours logged in
rigid crescent
A good official tutorial one instead of "ay step on these blocks ok go play vrchat now"
covert blade
There is also a "panic mode" which will switch the safety settings to custom and disable everything for everyone except friends
vocal shard
I just never had a reason for it I,guess
rigid crescent
That's pretty new π
covert blade
Ya never had a reason to go through the menus?
vocal shard
50 is a lot I think hahaha
rigid crescent
I mean, not new, but inexperienced as far as things go in the grand scheme
covert blade
That's like one of the first things I do in any game ever
rigid crescent
especially not knowing basic game functions
covert blade
I open the settings, see what's there
rigid crescent
Yeah, not searching the available menus is such a foreign concept to me
vocal shard
I know how to go for sound volume
covert blade
So one time I had panic mode enabled and joined a friend and I was super confused at why everyone was hidden and muted except for my friend
And then they walked up to me and waved their hands around probably equally as confused as me
vocal shard
Anyone want to play A game in vrchat or like a horror thing
covert blade
It felt like I was on a different plane of existence
And then eventually I figured out why it was like that and switched it back to the regular settings
vocal shard
If I had a problem I'm sure I'd be able to fix it and find what I need, as you did
covert blade
The problem is that you dont even know about fundamental game mechanics despite the loading screen menus frequently mentioning those :X
Plz check the menus
vocal shard
Yeah but if I needed to mute someone I'm sure I could figure it out in a minutes time
covert blade
Do you know how to add someone as a friend?
covert blade
Then ya technically also know how to mute
Just open the menu, click on that person
You get a whole bunch of options
vocal shard
Oh well okay, simple. π
covert blade
Assuming you can click them
You can also do it via the social tab if you look up the person. There's a list of all the people in the room right now
covert blade
You just can't hide an avatar remotely like that
lol. You could've just clicked them
vocal shard
click them?
covert blade
Just open the menu, click on that person
vocal shard
Oh
rigid crescent
you've never wondered what those buttons you've never clicked do?
vocal shard
Hey now guys, I'm learning lol
covert blade
Yeah but like, 50 hours
rigid crescent
Oh it's fine I'm not knocking you for it, it's just such a foreign concept to me that I don't really understand lol
covert blade
Usually I just add people via the website because I'm too socially awkward to do it when they're right there
vocal shard
How did you know I did that?
covert blade
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
vocal shard
Jk. I've never done that
covert blade
I wouldnt be surprised if you don't even know about the website
vocal shard
I use the website to decide when to get on lol
covert blade
Same. Although before the update the website really was mostly useless
Like the "Friends locations" and "Block & Mutes" tabs didnt exist
vocal shard
I noticed some of my friends are on about 12 hours a day. Would of never known if it wasn't for the site.
covert blade
And I think the friends list itself also had a lil less info and was more compact
The thing now is that I can show avatar ingame and then have an easy link to their account
I can also undo potential accidental blocks if need be but so far I havent accidentally done that so I'm fine
But before that was a thing, if you accidentally block someone, dont notice it and they'll leave the instance then that's a bit of a pain in the butt. Actually now that I think about it I think you could've still figured it out via the API
And Friends Locations is really nice because I can see when a whole group of friends is all in the same instance
vocal shard
Well, thank you for your help. In going to get.on and try this in-text status feature. Have a great night
polar bone
So I just went to the box and there was a nightclub down below the map, how would one enable this?
covert blade
@rigid crescent btw you mentioned a JP tutorial world, what exactly's on there?
rigid crescent
Everything a new player would need to know.
From desktop controls to camera settings, safety settings, etc
rigid crescent
Yep
Teached you how to interact with stuff as well, like there's a simple ladder to go from the bottom area to the top
covert blade
So why exactly is the default tutorial so shiet?
rigid crescent
No clue. I'm like 99% sure if they contacted the dude and said "hey mind if we use this as an official world and just make it English?" they'd be fine with it
covert blade
Really by default, you just have a short "move around a bit" followed by some tutorial message in your home and in the hub
covert blade
actually gonna have a look at dis
Even though I can't read Japanese but I'm still curious what it looks like
rigid crescent
as someone who's played and looked at the menus you'll likely know the basics of it already anyway just by looking at the images
covert blade
Yup
Also somehow managed to join into a public instance and had to listen to everyone speaking Japanese
Even teaches you how invites work
Although it does feel a bit cluttered. I think an official version would work better with each tutorial being in one room and using a door to teleport to the next room
vocal shard
vocal shard
Installing Win 10 to get VRChat
lunar cedar
vrchat shouldn't have been the push to get win10 π
vocal shard
It is
indigo juniper
getting win 10 just for vrchat in unnecessarry, unless you got VR
lunar cedar
You should get win10 simply because it's a better OS than win7. That and win7 is expiring in 70 days
vocal shard
Microphone has issues in Windows 7
lunar cedar
I'd recommend a clean install if you're already having driver issues
Tbh, I'd recommend a clean install in all cases though
glossy pasture
Hey yall, trying to sign into VRC SDK but for some reason its not letting me sign in. Is their a way to sign in?
Version of unity 2017.4.28f1
vocal shard
I use Linux for everything
tranquil hinge
can i run vr chat on paralels
lunar cedar
Does parallels let you pass through a display and usb device with a dedicated gpu? vrchat is free, so you may as well test
lunar cedar
fringe shoal
So, is there something wrong with the social tab?
My list doesn't update as quick as it used to.
lunar cedar
"As it used to"? It's been like this since I started playing in march
fringe shoal
As in it used to update seamlessly without restarting
lunar cedar
When was that?
fringe shoal
I'm not sure honestly.
But if its been like it since march then it seems theres nothing I can do
lunar cedar
It seems to update faster in empty worlds so I just go home and wait 5 minutes
indigo fern
Social tab speeds vary
It was improved a bit same update that made avatars load faster I think
lunar cedar
The improvement I saw from that was I didn't have to restart the game anymore.
languid beacon
what's with the big floating stone thing in the hub?
vocal shard
Anyone go around vrc with me?
And just as warning I canβt physically talk, Iβm unable to make sound because Iβm aphasic.
I have touch controls so I can at least talk with my hands
lunar cedar
Find a character with a pen and make sure to write slowly so it's legible with network IK.
Cursive seems to work best
lunar cedar
I'm currently working, but maybe later
vocal shard
How long do you think?
lunar cedar
Not really sure. Just got to write a few tests. I'll take a half day today
royal basin
does anyone have contact with the maker of the FFCR world or the Salt Lakes world
knotty sable
Hi, someone knows wich vr headset is the best atm?
proud zinc
Feels bad, when everybody is talking about VR and I can't get out of this room to speak with people :"(
knotty sable
@proud zinc why
broken plover
the best vr headset atm is the index. but the best allrounder is the rift s. its cheap and good meanwhile the index is the absolute best, but at a price of 1000$
knotty sable
what about the htc cosmos?
knotty sable
it has a better resolution that the index
proud zinc
When I enter a world the mic stops working and the PING gets so much higher and the game stops working. A lot of problems mate.
knotty sable
index : 2,880 x 1,600 Htc cosmos : 2,880 x 1,700
knotty sable
try re install the game
lunar cedar
That's your internet mate. I tried to tell you π¦
proud zinc
Yea, I know but I really wanted to try the game. I'm gonna change the internet in the next couple of weeks
knotty sable
I think imna wait for the Pimax 8K X
lunar cedar
You'd have to leave your country