#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 911

pure hemlock Oct 4, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Yup that's what happened to me not fun

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Valve will still deal with it, people were discussing this on Reddit before

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AFAIK the warranty is global, it's just initial shipping locations are what are currently restricted

pure hemlock Oct 4, 2019, 5:00 PM

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They wouldn't even talk to me when mine broke

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Told me to have the person I bought them from contact them

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Right, which you would be. I'm not talking about second hand.

pure hemlock Oct 4, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I don't understand your point then

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Why would the issue you just be raised relevant if you're the person that bought them?

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:10 PM

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@snow wadi Huh, you sure do have some interesting worlds

sinful matrix Oct 4, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Does anyone have issues with the new layout from HTC Vive with STEAMVR? I am in steamVR home with my headset and my FPS VR GPU is in pink colour and my frames is 20 MAX

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:23 PM

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steamvr home lags for me too, but I disabled it. I like the steamvr void more anyways

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Ditto. Home is pretty but I'm all about that game launch speed bois.

sinful matrix Oct 4, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Even when i launch in VRCHAT just know same problem FPS VR GPU stay's pink with max 20 FRAMES is this new update from STEAMVR broken?

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I didn't even realise you could disable steamvr home

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I'm wondering if I can disable the home for Windows mixed reality

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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mybe your overclocking software broke/bugged out. Mine is stuck at 1000Mhz+ VRam but Idk it that could be a problem

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and when I overclock my VRam that high it slows down for some reason

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Does WMR load into SteamVR home, or something else?

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Note to self: google that shit when I get home

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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@covert blade Tenkoo o.o/

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Something else. It get its own home thing

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:26 PM

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When you first start it up it boots into the cliffhouse and from there you can go to the steamvr home/void

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Ah I remember my WMR cliffhouse

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I dont think you can diable the wmr cliffhouse tho Llen

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:27 PM

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It was filled with pictures of VRChat selfies.

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What I liked about it was that you could hang up your desktop like a painting on a wall.

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Hah

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Technically you can do that in SteamVR Home if you use OVRTK

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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See that's the thing, no third party apps required.

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Also the Mos Eisly Cantina SteamVR home is surprisingly well done

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I just have a steamvr shortcut and a desktop in my cliffhouse and thats it

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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(yes, it includes not only the music, but the band too)

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I only use it as an entry point to steamvr

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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hi everyone

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Now with Oculus home, I have a computer monitor that shows Discord. xD

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Oh wait let me show you what Oculus Home did by default.

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Hmm

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:31 PM

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I've got a ping to a channel I can't see...

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Are you on mobile?

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https://i.imgur.com/URbsiEn.png Just use that button

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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hi everyone

sinful matrix Oct 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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I know what's going on. STEAMVR beta seems to be broken again. Did switch to the normal steam VR mode and there is it perfect again.

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Oh, thanks. Ah, it's Random Chat, yeah I've muted that room because it was just brain destroyingly dumb. Like watching a pre-school playground, I couldn't keep checking it any more.

sinful matrix Oct 4, 2019, 5:33 PM

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BETA steamVRMODE is broken for now.

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GREAT another announcement for a mainterance with issues. I wanna see more information why you guy's doing those mainterance's tho. There is no specific information whhy you guy's are doing it.

covert chasm Oct 4, 2019, 5:39 PM

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If we don't do it, stuff will break really bad.

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🙂

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:39 PM

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hi tupper

slate verge Oct 4, 2019, 5:39 PM

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they are basically just dusting the server

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and feeding the hamsters

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Never understood the anger at maintenances

wise patrol Oct 4, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Word is, they have a team of highly trained cyclists powering the server who need hydration

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I thought they switched to Geothermal Plants?

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:41 PM

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He needs to do the biannual chkdsk

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Tupper, if VRchat does go through a maintenance would we have to log out until its finished?

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:41 PM

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I would think it's a live maintenance so probably.

slate verge Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it says no, but you will experience bugs

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Well darn >_<

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Awwo Queen o/

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Not sure how my computer will deal with the VRchat bugs but i'll have to wait and see

slate verge Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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hi qhala cutie~

sinful matrix Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I am not angry just wanna know specific information about it. But yeah i understand only not in the right time for me where i am at right now vrcStoic

wise patrol Oct 4, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I mean it is only like 30 mins or so

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Enough time to, say, get a bite to eat and come back and it'll be done lol

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I already had food xD

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:45 PM

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hi Enzo03

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hi @lofty cipher

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:46 PM

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hello o-o

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:46 PM

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how r u?

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:47 PM

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pretty good hbu?

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:47 PM

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good

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wanna be friends?

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Being friends is more than just saying it, you simply become friends over time.

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 5:49 PM

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^

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I don't honestly add people on Discord unless i meet them on VRChat in person

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:51 PM

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i dont VRChat....

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😞

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:51 PM

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So knowing someone on Discord isn't good enough to add them on Discord 🤔

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:51 PM

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sighs*

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im goin to Nekotopia....maybe ill find someone to talk to

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Have fun

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:53 PM

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im depressed since my gf dumped me.....

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:53 PM

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The "girlfriend" where both parties apparently hated each other

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:54 PM

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she dumped me today 😞

stoic halo Oct 4, 2019, 5:54 PM

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k

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:55 PM

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thts why i even made this account....

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i just want friends

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Consider playing VRChat then

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:55 PM

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^

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:55 PM

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It's free and doesn't require VR

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:55 PM

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i dont have VRChat

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Download it :3

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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It's free

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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i hav cromebook

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Well rip

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Will vrchat ever just make it only vr and just not allowed any pc players in ?

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Nope

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Probably not

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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You'd lose a large portion of the player base and also kill off a large portion of people who might potentially get VR due to VRChat

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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A majority of vrchat are on desktop and that ^

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:58 PM

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It's free advertisement for VR really. And full body tracking. And desktop is good to quickly test stuff.

umbral reef Oct 4, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Last time we got a number of VR v desktop was something like 20% VR and 80% desktop

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Yeah not surprised

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 5:58 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Same unknown

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Same here too

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Was on it for a year then I wanted hands xD

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Now I want legs lol

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I think everyone was a desktop user. (except the 2016 vive/oculus bois)

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Have hands, have legs

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Ahh lucky

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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4 hour battery life

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I have Kinect but I rather have actual trackers

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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🤔

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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I have a kinect and wmr, but when I do get a vive with 3 trackers eventually i'll sell the wmr and the kinect

stoic halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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fullbody sucks when you realize most models aren't even proportionate to the human body

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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That's because most models are MMD's, leahhh.

stoic halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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yes i know

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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wellim getting it

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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And that's why you look for models that do work well with it.

stoic halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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and it fucking sucks trying to proportion them in blender

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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@brave arch honestly it took so much tinkering for it to work, half the time I don’t even know how I got it to work lol

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I see the sde every now and then on wmr and It doesnt really bother me. I just try to ignore them

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so I dont think its gonna be a big problem with a vive

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I just use public avatars, works fine for me

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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stoic halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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my model is proportionate, but im currently trying to proportion a Kemono model

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I’m probably about to just do the hybrid build for oculus, I don’t want vive lol

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 6:02 PM

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There's also a surprisingly large number of avatars that were never really meant for FBT but do work pretty well with it

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:02 PM

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@brave arch only time I’ve had that problem was when I didn’t have proper lighting in my room o.o

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 6:02 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:02 PM

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what kinect do you have? The kinect V2 (xbox one) can track the skeleton in darkness

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 6:02 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Does the kinect method work with wmr?

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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yes

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Make sure your room is bright and there’s nothing blocking it

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I used to have a chair mess up my skeleton

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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HMMM

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sure would be nice to have legs...

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Same

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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hehe I can flex with my kinect V2

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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xD

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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How much is an Xbone Kinect nowadays anyway?

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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idk. I bought a modified one from ebay for 40€

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Actually scratch that question. Does anyone have a webpage with like a "how to Kinect FBT for dummies"?

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Uh just google that

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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anyone wanna add me on VRChat?

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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You download kinect2vr run it and calibrate it. thats it

torpid merlin Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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sup guys

foggy zinc Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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One message removed from a suspended account.

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Hi Richard

torpid merlin Oct 4, 2019, 6:05 PM

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hi

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Cya unknown!

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:05 PM

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or if you want to spend money you download driver4vr and calbirate it with the user friendly(er) calibration

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Okay. I wasn't sure if there were shenanigans to do, like modding it with whatever. Yours is modded you said, so what does it do differently?

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:06 PM

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doesnt need the power adapter

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 6:06 PM

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darn.. i hav chrome OS

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 6:06 PM

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thats what the mod does

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Alright ima go play murder nice talking to u guys o/

torpid merlin Oct 4, 2019, 6:06 PM

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bye

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 6:08 PM

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GoodLuck!

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 6:10 PM

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I see

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You aren't helping me save money

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My wife will be unhappy!

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Kinect doesn't need a brightly lit room does it? I thought it used IR strobes so less light is probably actually better?

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 6:39 PM

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@vocal shard Wanna join my loli army? You get free headpats, and you can be quiet, or talk.. either way is cool. 🙂 I just need more cute things in my life. lol

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 6:41 PM

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i can

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Yes. 1st cute thing, acquired, add me pal. 🙂 I'm the same username everywhere.

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 6:42 PM

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ok

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Anyone else wanna join my loli brigade?
(I just want cute things to spoil, and head pat.)
lol 🙂

viscid gulch Oct 4, 2019, 6:46 PM

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how do we got about reporting a world with stolen avatars? i found a world and at least 2 of the avatars there where ones my friends made or brought the rights too but in the report world button there is no report for stolen avatars part

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 6:47 PM

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@viscid gulch http://help.vrchat.com/new

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 6:53 PM

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lol not enough light reflected? Interesting.

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... Pf..

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Ugh. That's fun. I thought with perfect lights, it'd be pretty good.
I've heard some people have good luck with it.

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 6:55 PM

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It works by projecting dots on you and tracking their movement with the ir cameras. Maybe black absorbs too much colour?

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 6:57 PM

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lol nice.
"These are my VR'ing pants"

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 6:58 PM

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So... you're saying the best trousers would be ones made out of projector screen material? Or literally a silver nitrate morphsuit?

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But that's normally black

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 7:06 PM

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How do I google, how to be more appealing to lolis who want headpats.. without the fbi showing up.

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😛 lol

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 7:06 PM

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incognito tab in chrome

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or with a vpn that redirects your search to some poor guy somewhere in the world who has no clue whats going on xD

digital lintel Oct 4, 2019, 7:13 PM

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What's your gpa's name again? 😛

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 7:26 PM

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ikr

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 7:28 PM

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As usual with Unity updates, previous content will break unless it is reuploaded

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In the meantime, enjoy how hilarious certain worlds and avatars look

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I had one avatar that was perfectly fine except for the face, that was pink

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I had one avatar that was just completely black, another one where nothing changed what so ever

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I hope content creators can be bothered to update their stuff. Kind of worried about certain worlds and avatars not getting any update and just being broken for the rest of VRChats life time

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I didn't test the performance at all

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And in a solo home world in desktop mode the performance is always 90 FPS

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 7:32 PM

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So I uploaded my avatar with the old unity. Do I absolutely need to re-upload it now for it to work or can I put it off for now?

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That is to say, does vrchat only work now with the new unity version

empty flint Oct 4, 2019, 7:33 PM

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cant wait until I see how smol my avatar will look when she's done eeeee

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she's supposed to be a runt sized Sonic character... like she's close to the same size as a child Sonic character (Cream the Rabbit who's 2.3ft... my character is supposed to be 2.2ft) who's supposed to be about half her age (Cream is 6, my character is 13)

sand kite Oct 4, 2019, 7:40 PM

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maintenance on a friday night

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that's a yike from me lads

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 7:44 PM

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VRchat just temporarily disabled private avatars and favorites

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welp i didnt expect the maintenance to do that

sage thunder Oct 4, 2019, 7:45 PM

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How’d it go? @brave arch

true sky Oct 4, 2019, 7:47 PM

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@lofty cipher did say problems would occur, so 🤷

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Im gonna wait till much later

brazen zephyr Oct 4, 2019, 7:52 PM

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where are my avatars

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WHERE are my avatars

lofty cipher Oct 4, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Maintenance took them out for the moment

brazen zephyr Oct 4, 2019, 7:52 PM

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fuuuuccck

slate verge Oct 4, 2019, 8:01 PM

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yeah might want to take a break for now

long venture Oct 4, 2019, 8:03 PM

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my friend list broke and now i cant join my friend D:

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 8:03 PM

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#announcements #server-status

slate verge Oct 4, 2019, 8:04 PM

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its in maintenance rn

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 8:13 PM

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vrcAevSip

snow wadi Oct 4, 2019, 8:17 PM

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matsix

true sky Oct 4, 2019, 8:21 PM

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restart vrchat and it should show up again

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worked for me since its been 30 minutes

empty flint Oct 4, 2019, 8:24 PM

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can someone help me with something in #avatar-rigging please?

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it's about my avatar's pelvis and thigh and not sure what Im supposed to do...

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it's just this one thing I apparently need to knock off as I have a gutsy feeling it'll do something a little bad

mellow herald Oct 4, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I have panic, will they be able to bring back all the worlds and avatars that we all have as favourites?

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or do we need to add everything again

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 8:34 PM

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I would wait for maintenance to finish

compact oyster Oct 4, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Is maintenance finish?

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Negative

compact oyster Oct 4, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Ah okay that sucks

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 8:36 PM

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@faint skiff Halloween avatar (mostly) complete!

compact oyster Oct 4, 2019, 8:36 PM

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I just spent the last 40 minutes looking for an avatar

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Finally found it and then i got booted lol

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 8:36 PM

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My legs clip through the skirt of my coat but I don't have FBT anyway so who cares. As long as I don't crouch it's all good

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 8:41 PM

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you have 2 options.

Weighpaint in blender
use colliders (or plus colliders)

faint skiff Oct 4, 2019, 8:42 PM

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@slow halo That reminds me, I need to tweak a few more things on my bag of aids avatar

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@broken plover I was gonna just parent the two front skirt bones to my legs and leave it at that

broken plover Oct 4, 2019, 8:43 PM

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I guess that could also work

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 10:08 PM

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is maintenance still happening or no

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 10:08 PM

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I would assume that we would get a notification about it when they're done

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So not sure, maybe, probably not, dunno

vocal shard Oct 4, 2019, 10:09 PM

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vrcSunglasses

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 10:54 PM

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(Psst VRChat staff, this is a bit longer than a half hour)

hollow breach Oct 4, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Enjoy life

tough quartz Oct 4, 2019, 10:56 PM

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hello

hollow breach Oct 4, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I will not say hello because you are offline

tough quartz Oct 4, 2019, 10:57 PM

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ok lol

lunar shell Oct 4, 2019, 10:57 PM

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🤔

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 11:02 PM

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I did enjoy life. I had a delicious tofu stirfry with my fiancee, and played with my cat a bunch, and put the finishing touches on my halloween avatar

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but now I wanna collect headpats

supple bison Oct 4, 2019, 11:11 PM

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@ VRChat team, y'all ever gonna remove the early access badge from the side of the menu? Shit's been there since 2015

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 11:11 PM

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gg

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You mentioned a person named VRChat

supple bison Oct 4, 2019, 11:11 PM

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👌

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 11:11 PM

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@VRChat Team

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Also the game is still in early access as far as I know

supple bison Oct 4, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Lmao

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Been 4 yrs

pseudo basalt Oct 4, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Games have been in ea for longer than that

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Some games don’t even leave it

covert blade Oct 4, 2019, 11:14 PM

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DayZ had 5 years and is still unfinished. Your point?

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@Pumkin the games that don't leave it are usually abandonware

ruby burrow Oct 4, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Removing the badge wouldn't really accomplish anything.

supple bison Oct 4, 2019, 11:17 PM

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It's a meme with how old this game has been in early access

ruby burrow Oct 4, 2019, 11:17 PM

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It's kind of valid as a fair warning, given the plenty unstable nature of the ongoing development.

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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I mean leaving it early access is probably for the best for now

pseudo basalt Oct 4, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Dirty bomb has been in ea for years too

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Then it came out but nothing changed and they abandoned it

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Wow I haven't thought about Dirty Bomb in ages...

ruby burrow Oct 4, 2019, 11:19 PM

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For the best how?

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It would change absolutely nothing, whilst building false expectations of a final product in the community.

pseudo basalt Oct 4, 2019, 11:19 PM

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It was fun until it was Mishandled

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I think it still pulls 500 peak players with a few servers that still live

ruby burrow Oct 4, 2019, 11:20 PM

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VR-Chat is ten years from being a finished product, solely via the nature of VR itself.

wintry fulcrum Oct 4, 2019, 11:20 PM

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if it still lives in 10 years

pseudo basalt Oct 4, 2019, 11:20 PM

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But yeah coming out of EA means nothing on its own

slow halo Oct 4, 2019, 11:20 PM

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in 10 years I'm hoping for some SAO-style fulldive nonsense

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I wanna be the catgirl

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:21 PM

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In 10years I’ll be playing fortnite season 85

pseudo basalt Oct 4, 2019, 11:21 PM

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And they might have a set of features planned before it’s considered a finished game

ruby burrow Oct 4, 2019, 11:21 PM

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It's probably fair to say that the phrase "Early Access" itself is a little flawed, just in regard to the "early" part and how it implies there's some kind of special limited access going on.
But there's no benefit in declaring otherwise.

analog hull Oct 4, 2019, 11:22 PM

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so, i have a problem, before, long ago, it didnt happen, but now it does... when i turn on any mirrors, even alone in a world, like the box, my gpu goes up to 100%, and my fps go to 11... any ideas? i use gtx 1060 3gb

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Never heard of anyone having that issue

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Weird tho

pseudo basalt Oct 4, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Does it happen with all avatars

analog hull Oct 4, 2019, 11:24 PM

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having for a while now, cant play much cause of this, as vrc is all about mirrors

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yap

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:25 PM

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What have u tried so far? To fix it?

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I honestly have no clue tbh, I would send the vrc team an email about it

analog hull Oct 4, 2019, 11:27 PM

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reinstalling, changed to rift S, turn graphics to desktoplow, trying to change the graphics card options too

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Does it happen in desktop and vr?

bitter smelt Oct 4, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Hi

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:27 PM

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And does it happen on the steam and the oculus client of the game?

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Hi

analog hull Oct 4, 2019, 11:28 PM

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only vr

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both clients

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Ur gpu drivers up to date?

analog hull Oct 4, 2019, 11:28 PM

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yap

meager solstice Oct 4, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Yeah.... I don’t have a clue than tbh

analog hull Oct 4, 2019, 11:29 PM

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this is so annoying, its the only reason preventing me to play

hollow breach Oct 4, 2019, 11:42 PM

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I use to play vrc on a gtx 760 4gb

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And it was pretty good

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But later on in the future my experience just got worse and worse

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To the point I had to upgrade

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It’s maybe because your gtx only has 3gb?

sturdy wolf Oct 4, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Lower super sampling on SteamVR/Oculus Tray Tool

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Any tips on where to get a HTC vive? or an Oculus??

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Oculus is a company, not a product

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:21 AM

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zisodjOAD

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I don't know much about it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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so you can't really blame me for my stupidity

tacit crow Oct 5, 2019, 12:23 AM

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kill

slate verge Oct 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

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@vocal shard htc vive if you are planning with fullbody tracking, but oculus is a good start

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:50 AM

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The Vive and original rift are discontinued, so you may need to look used if you want one. Most of the remaining stock on online sites are selling out.

What's available now are the
Rift S $400
Vive Cosmos $700
Index $1000

You can get them online, or at some stores like best buy or Microsoft

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:52 AM

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What about Vive Pro?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Vive pro still isn't worth it imo. Not unless they drop the price...

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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But the cosmos sure is with it's modularity

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And the knock off Oculus Touch Controllers

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Holy fucking shit how expensive is this?!

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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I really don't think the Cosmos is worth it. And the reviews are bad

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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Yeah I just looked up the price for the Pro and ohmagawd

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nothx

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:53 AM

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Yeah

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Probs just better to jump straight to Index

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Yep, it's better for less

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Also you actually have good controllers and not those oversized TV remotes

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 12:54 AM

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The Vive pro is basically a Vive with 2.0 sensors, and panels from a Samsung Odyssey.

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AkkoThonk

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But priced too high

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 12:55 AM

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As with a lot of things from HTC

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At least in Europe, the standard Vive is still being sold

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So you could technically still get a new one, if ya wanted

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:13 AM

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i mean, oculus is an okay start, but i want to go with htc vive since i prefer full body tracking instead

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:13 AM

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At least on the European store they're still selling it for 599€

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Alternatively you can either buy a used one or jump straight to Index. Index light houses work with the HTC trackers as well.

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The neat benefit of Valve being involved with HTC's VR headsets

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Hmm, I mean I wasn't planning on spending a lot of money though. Since I'm canadian, and don't have a good.. "allowance" then it could mean I have to find something cheaper.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Oh

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I mean, if you are going for VR and going for full body tracking with HTC's trackers, you are going to spend a lot of money

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:17 AM

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True.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Unless you find everything used for much cheaper and have a DYI solution to replace Trackstraps

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:18 AM

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I've found a good selection of used HTC's, but they sound to good to be true.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Again, HTC is a company, not a product

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Also keep in mind that if you are buying a used Vive, check if they are also selling the base stations

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People upgrading to Index usually sell their Vive but keep the base stations

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Alrighty, thank's for the help.
also, I'm new at this so I don't know anything about what htc is so your going to have to bear with me.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:21 AM

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It's important because both HTC and Oculus have multiple VR headsets

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For example, HTC has the original Vive, aka just Vive, Vive Pro and soon to be released Cosmos.

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Oculus has the Rift, Rift S and Quest

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Good to know.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:23 AM

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I think before the Rift there were also the, I'm just gonna call it "Prototype" versions, CV's, whatever I forgot what it was called

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Someone with more brain than me please tell me the name of what I'm thinking of

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Generally you've got 3 options. Odyssey+ ($300), Rift S ($400), and Index ($1000).

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That could change if HTC decides to price drop the pro, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:26 AM

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As I've said, the original Vive can still be purchased. And while a bit dated and not being produced anymore, with 599€ it is a good headset if you plan on getting FBT and you are still able to upgrade to an Index later on while keeping the base stations you already have

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Unless ya want a hybrid setup or don't care about FBT

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Honestly though, why hasn't Oculus thought about their own full body tracking solution yet?

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Full body is a hell a lot of fun.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Like, honestly, look at how much HTC is charging for these things. Some competition please

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:28 AM

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I seriously don't think their full body would be that good if the managed to even get that one sensor thing going.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Or is it too much of a niche to be worth competing with?

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Need at least two.

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Well vr is growing slow and fbt is just a smaller rate of that growth.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:30 AM

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If it was to work, it would have to do more than just fbt for a larger market appeal

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Yeah but right now I'm pretty sure HTC is profiting really well from their overpriced trackers.

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:31 AM

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$300 ain't cheap but I could sell my PS4 I don't use anymore because I'm into vr too much for time use it.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:32 AM

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$300 for what specifically?

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Just 3 trackers.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Are they really just $100 each?

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Because they're 119€ here.

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:33 AM

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I don't know the conversion.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:33 AM

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They're almost as expensive as Index controllers

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:34 AM

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Index controllers were $279 for me.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:34 AM

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299€ here

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I actually really want those

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:34 AM

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I'm guessing the 119 is for one tracker then.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:35 AM

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It is

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:35 AM

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The conversion puts trackers (bought in America) at €91

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Now if we could ignore shipping costs and customs clearance it would almost be worth buying it overseas.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:36 AM

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A full kit is $650 for v1 stations, straps, and trackers

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:36 AM

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teajcers

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You missed more than just one key there

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Eating a pizza that just burned my mouth. Give me a break :/

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:37 AM

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I made my own attachments.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:37 AM

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Like putting it on shoes?

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:37 AM

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But the straps I guess work well for some.

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I screwed them into old shoes.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:38 AM

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The straps do work reasonably well, however there's still always a possibility that they might come off your feet

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Same with a belt.

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I bolted it on.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:39 AM

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Idk I'm still happy with my $400 body tracking, even if it's not as seamless as running a full HTC setup

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:39 AM

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I mean, I already have my straps ~~which I paid way too much for due to shipping and customs clearance~~ but I guess I will consider putting them on shoes if those ever fail

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Probs not as comfy as just having them on your socks, but a lot more stable

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:40 AM

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Depends what fbt you want too. There are cheaper ways that don't work as well but still do the trick.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:40 AM

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I don't need to dance so straps do just fine

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Although I'm not sure who you spoke to

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Dancing is hard

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:41 AM

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I'm honestly amazed at how people manage to dance, then again they're probably not using straps so they don't really have the issue of their trackers moving out of place

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I don't move fast so it works for me

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I'm amazed at how people dance at all. Fbt or not

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Have ya ever seen people do handstands in VR with FBT?

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Hand stands. Like how? Must be some crazy set ups.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Apparently it isn't any more difficult than regular hand stands

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Nope. I've seen a few pretend to using an animation, but never anyone legit.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:43 AM

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That is assuming you can do regular handstands at all

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Hmm hang on

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:43 AM

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I could use a wall and cheat but the controllers are in my hands.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:43 AM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelyAmusedYogurtGOWSkull

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A tutorial on how 2 handstand

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And I have seen people do that in public worlds. At least I'm pretty sure they were doing it because it didn't look like an animation and they could move their legs.

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:44 AM

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That's crazy.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Yup

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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And amazing.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Indeed

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I'm already worried every time I throw anything in VR

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Due to small play space. These madlads do handstands. In VR.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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My feet would push through the ceiling if I tried that

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I have enough space ahead of me, but not anywhere to the sides.

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Damn you tall.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:45 AM

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I can't even raise my hands to people headpatting me

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:46 AM

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lol

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Not really, just a short basement room

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Only 6'

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I'm only 6' I mean

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:46 AM

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I wish I was

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:47 AM

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And yet all my avatars are smol

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Though I have managed to poke some dents I'm the ceiling tiles.

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Also in the basement

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:48 AM

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I haven't caused any damage, but I've been rained on by tile dust many times

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:48 AM

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5'6" here

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aka 168cm

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I blame the Vive controllers because they are so big and ever since I stopped using them, no more dents.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Probs gonna be while before I'll buy Index controllers

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I've always thought they looked pretty unwieldy

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:49 AM

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They are

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It's relatively okay in VRChat, but play Onward or H3VR and try to throw a grenade

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Not gonna be so easy to pull the pin when the controllers are so huge

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I kept mine as a back up. Not much for resale value. Lol.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Unfortunately the TV remotes™ are the only controllers I have at the moment

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Top 10 ugliest controllers list.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Really the only benefit is that I can switch between gestures really fast and have minimal risk of accidentally using gestures when I don't intend to.

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I didn't even know that could work.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:54 AM

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With the advanced controls it works

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Wait, what tv remotes?

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Vive controllers

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Oh, never knew there was something other than wands

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:55 AM

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They quite literally have the size of a TV remote and feel like that when playing with it

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That's why I want to upgrade to Index controllers Soon™

lunar shell Oct 5, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Oh now I get it.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:58 AM

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The wmr motion controllers are okay, but the Samsung ones have QA issues. Nimh batteries make then glitchy too from the lower voltage. The Acer replacement at least recognizes the nimh and shows the battery correctly draining fast af

dense lagoon Oct 5, 2019, 1:58 AM

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hey whats up

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I'm way too cheap for non rechargable batteries though

dense lagoon Oct 5, 2019, 1:58 AM

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hahahahhahahahahha

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thats funny

craggy flume Oct 5, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Has anyone used the Npc spawner before?

dense lagoon Oct 5, 2019, 1:59 AM

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no

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 1:59 AM

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NPC spawner?

tepid spindle Oct 5, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Yeah, its a component thats never mentioned in the Vrchat offical documents but its their anyways in the files and is usable in game.

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IT has been used as well but no one ever shows nor mentions on how it works.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:02 AM

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A script?

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If so, pastebin it. I'm away from my computer to check the SDK files myself

dense lagoon Oct 5, 2019, 2:07 AM

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ok

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:12 AM

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well except for the constant crashes, my first long(ish) session of VRChat in proper VR was fantastic

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I'm in love

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Any error message with those crashes?

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Honestly ever since the update that fixed crashes on world loading, I barely had any crashes whatsoever

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I did manage to have SteamVR crash at one point.... that was weird.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:27 AM

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there are... But I can't remember where the folder is

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:28 AM

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In appdata

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%AppData%\..\LocalLow\VRChat

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Yep Mozilla hubs might beat vrchat

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It's another social game

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And guess what

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It has no Limits

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:30 AM

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No limits regarding what?

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Well no avatar limits

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No poly limits or any limits what so ever

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:31 AM

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that sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen

queen mango Oct 5, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Anything else in mind? It's still too early for them as far as I can observe of.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:31 AM

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VRChat doesn't really have any limits either

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500k poly avatar? Possible.

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Well on quest

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It does

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Hmm no. They can Show Avatar a very poor one and it'll show up

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 2:32 AM

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^

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:32 AM

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The problem is that the majority of people can't even be bothered to export to the Quest

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:32 AM

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https://hubs.mozilla.com/

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Also, don't forget about Lavender

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Well this game is ran off a browser

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:33 AM

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As far as I've been told, it's basically supposed to be VRChat but better

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Well yes

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:33 AM

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A browser?

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:33 AM

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It can run very well on quest

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:33 AM

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wow these logs are robust

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:33 AM

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You type https://hubs.mozilla.com/ that

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In the browser

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:34 AM

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@lunar cedar anything I should be looking for in these logs?

surreal ingot Oct 5, 2019, 2:35 AM

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Yeah you can see any avatar on Mozilla hubs

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:36 AM

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Anything around the time of the crash. Windows logs->application will also give you the crash event if you forgot the exact time

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:36 AM

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You know though, I know what's going on really. My CPU is old, my ram is old, and the WMR software is janky

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:36 AM

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How much ram do you have?

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:37 AM

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16gb, DDR3 at 1600mhz

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and my CPU is an i5 4690k

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:37 AM

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4670k here

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:37 AM

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But I've got an RTX 2070! So... yay for being unbalanced I guess

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Ohdear

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:38 AM

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The wmr software hasn't been janky for me. You're on windows 1903, right? I never used it previous to that version and I've heard it used to be worse.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:38 AM

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I am, yeah

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And yeah it was worse before, it's better now. Enverex was suggesting it's my ram since he had a similar issue even with his much better setup

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Suggested 32gb has made a world of difference for him. It's only 100 bucks for 16gb more of what I've got, so maybe I'll just do that. Can't hurt right?

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Just check in the windows application logs in event viewer. Tell me what the faulting module was.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Faulting application name: vrdashboard.exe, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x5d730304
Faulting module name: vrdashboard.exe, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x5d730304
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x0020d80d
Faulting process id: 0x3c0c
Faulting application start time: 0x01d57b1edd4e604b
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\SteamVR\bin\win32\vrdashboard.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\SteamVR\bin\win32\vrdashboard.exe

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There's a few actually...

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:40 AM

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That should also have crashed with vrserver, what does that one say?

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Several program will crash together when steamvr goes down. Look for vrchat and vrserver

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Faulting application name: dwm.exe, version: 10.0.18362.329, time stamp: 0xd71652ca
Faulting application name: VRChat.exe, version: 2017.4.28.41207, time stamp: 0x5ceebdc4
... Can't find a vrserver

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Huh, dm me the full DWM crash

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:45 AM

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getting diagnosed!

stiff sparrow Oct 5, 2019, 3:27 AM

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with what

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 3:34 AM

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my PC crashes a bunch when running VRchat in vr

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trying to figure out why

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I figure it's 'cause my shit is old n' busted

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 4:54 AM

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open up task manager and check what's being used up

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if it's your memory then it's likely a ram issue, if it's your disk, hardrive issue, etc

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that's what was happening to me too for a while, ended up figuring out it was just due to not having enough memory

merry belfry Oct 5, 2019, 5:01 AM

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anybody else suddenly dropped to super slow world download rates?

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 5:03 AM

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Llen went to bed, but only 1 of the 4 crashes is known to be linked to high CPU usage. Maybe the others were too though

slate verge Oct 5, 2019, 7:10 AM

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what does it mean when they said rift s uses single screen?

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 7:12 AM

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headsets with a manual ipd adjustment have 1 screen for each lens. But having a single screen is basically like looking at a pc monitor but theres lenses infront of it to make it 3d

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the only difference is the ipd adjustment. a single screen cant cover as much ipd as 2 seperate screens can

slate verge Oct 5, 2019, 7:16 AM

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oh okay

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Ends up being uncomfortable/unusable for about 20% of people. At least that's what the former oculus engineer said about it. Maybe they widened the range a bit after that complaint, but I never checked.

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 9:15 AM

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The Rift S' lenses are spaced at about 64.5mm, and support user IPD in the range of 61mm - 65.5mm

It's likely to be closer to 30% who cannot comfortably use the Rift S according to some data I've seen.

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 9:25 AM

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lol I cant use the rift s then xD Glad I bought a wmr then

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Which one did you get? They have the same problem but likely a different IPD range

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except the samsung ones, they have physical IPD adjustments

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 9:35 AM

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I have the medion erazer

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and my ipd is 67

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the max ipd supported by wmr

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Another day another chance to play VR

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My body is ready... even if my ram/cpu isn't

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 10:18 AM

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I played BeatSaber this morning. Every expert+ song I had with fastre song modifier. If im gonna play VRchat later im only gonna chill in there

empty flint Oct 5, 2019, 10:20 AM

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finally posted a screenshot of my smol avatar on #avatars-2-general :3

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sorry I couldnt do it before it was late for me when I finished rigging her up

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 10:36 AM

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reinstalling WMR~

empty flint Oct 5, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Im being buried by cushions ingame o-o

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nvm they stole parts of my cushion fort uwu

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oh wait they buried me again XD

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there's just a constant debate on whether they bury me alive with cushions or not... XD

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Hiya

pine fiber Oct 5, 2019, 11:21 AM

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One thing a lot of people don’t consider about the Rift S is the sweet spot is much much larger than Vive or most WMR headsets. So if your out of range on the IPD your most likely still in the sweet spot and the image looks fine. With Vive headsets you basically have to be dead on.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Join me at hangout cinema! Take a seat when in Hangout cinema

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It is a world You will see it at the top

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At searching Hangout cinema

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Or search cin then it is the top one

trim wharf Oct 5, 2019, 12:48 PM

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feck yall

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:10 PM

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no u

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Weird, my profile image isn't loading. Is it loading for anyone else? https://d348imysud55la.cloudfront.net/thumbnails/4246632241.thumbnail-500.png

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 1:23 PM

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just to let you know, when I use the open beta, the mirror isn't toggled for me when I walk infront of it, and in some worlds buttons are black

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yep, completely black.

umbral reef Oct 5, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Did you read the announcement about the open beta? Check the canny, if its not reported yet document it there and else wait and hope they will solve it without people needing to reupload content

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@umbral reef I'm not on or uploading to the open beta atm so it shouldn't be related.

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Loads for me if that’s still relevant

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Yeah, it's fixed now. Guess it was just a temporary issue their side.

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Thanks

umbral reef Oct 5, 2019, 2:08 PM

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My comment was towards Yaekith not you :x

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Aaaaaaaaaaaah.

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But yeah, expect almost all worlds to be broken in the open beta, it's been repeated like 500 times at this point, lol.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Alright I got more ram!

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RAM: Successfully downloaded

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let's see if that helps my crashing issue at all

umbral reef Oct 5, 2019, 2:35 PM

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i hope your joking about the downloading

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Oh don't worry, I got the download at ramcheep4u.ru

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I'm sure it's legit

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 2:40 PM

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vrpill

clever wedge Oct 5, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Hi

rare oar Oct 5, 2019, 3:36 PM

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?

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 3:43 PM

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verdict: more stable, no crashes this session

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bummed around in the pug, it got a touch choppy now and then when avatars were loading in, but still no crashes. I'm pretty happy

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oh in case people still think so, no I didn't download my ram. I bought it

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I'm not that dumb

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Yeah, it made a massive difference for me. Basically with 16GB, the game would creep up to 12GB then shit itself, basically.

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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How long would you have to play for it to get that bad?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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what are some of the best maps for talking in general?

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Any with players

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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it seems there are so many trolls on most of the active ones

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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That's because no one takes public worlds seriously

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 3:53 PM

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i'm lucky to play 10 minutes before i crash

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:54 PM

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It's always going to be a wild mess of random things happening unless you join F+ or beyond

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 3:54 PM

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@covert blade An hour or two in some worlds. About 30 minutes in the Pug lol

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:54 PM

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o_o

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 3:55 PM

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@vocal shard Room with rain if the room isn't too busy, The Pug, The Black Cat, etc

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Just look around for approachable groups and hop instances if you don't find any

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Black Cat to meet 'dem Quest users

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 3:55 PM

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sounds good

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Yeah, avoid the BC if you're not using a Quest avatar

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 3:56 PM

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I'm assuming I'm not since I don't even know what that means

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:56 PM

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You know the blue "PC" circle when you select an avatar?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 3:56 PM

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I think so

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:56 PM

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In the upper right I think?

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The Oculus Quest is a standalone VR headset running a different operating system. Only supported avatars will be visible to them.

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If the avatar or world supports Quest, the green "Quest" circle will be lit up as well

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Otherwise it'll just stay gray

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 3:57 PM

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ah, so I definately don't use one

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 3:57 PM

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If you use a PC only avatar, Quest users can only see the placeholder model

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Personally I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you have friends playing on Quest

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The selection of quest compatible avatars is really bad and on PC you cannot filter specifically for Quest worlds so finding avatar worlds with avatars for the Quest can be a bit meh

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Also I realized that the Quest supported B1 battle droid I've been using has more than 10k polys and is therefore vrcPerfVeryPoor on Quest :(

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Yeah. I was running my performance monitor just to see which was the culprit, CPU or RAM, and one of the crashes was caused by the Pug taking a full 8GB of memory to itself

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so I maxed my ram, maxed my virtual ram, and my computer nope'd out of there

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:02 PM

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It does seem like the avatar creator did cut down on the polys because I found another, identical looking model (probs ripped from the same game) but with more polys. Still, that's some maxi disappointment right there

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 4:02 PM

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I'm sure I'll still get CPU related crashes, according to Jak the dwm process is a horribly-optimized beast and is prone to just using as much CPU as it possibly can, but at least one of the problems is dealt with

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Good thing I have 16 gigs

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 4:03 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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maybe canadian ram runs different

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Although oddly enough I have had so few direct game crashes that I never bothered checking the RAM

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SteamVR crashed at one point

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That was interesting because the game was still running and working in the background, I just couldn't see it

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 4:04 PM

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the same thing happened to me too yesterday (twice)

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:04 PM

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I'm gonna keep an eye on my RAM usage next time I'm on. I'm curious now

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:05 PM

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i hate crashing cause it shuts down oculus, steam, obs if it is running.. yeah not a fan

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:05 PM

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🤔

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So you have a Rift and use SteamVR?

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:05 PM

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yep

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:06 PM

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That can cost performance as far as I know because then you have Oculus' software and SteamVR running in the background

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:07 PM

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i know.. steamvr just needs to go away

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never used a vive before. does it not have the stuff like oculus?

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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the vive runs natively through steamvr

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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rip

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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but if you have a rift, then why dont you play vrchat from the oculus store?

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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does the same thing

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Vive and Index run natively on SteamVR

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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@vocal shard @covert blade These icons - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302253768933376/630074125435797524/unknown.png

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Especially not surprising for the Index, as it is a Valve made product.

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Of course it is going to run on software made by Valve.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 4:10 PM

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ah

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:10 PM

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ten minutes of gameplay then UnityPlayer.dll goes nanners

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sent my files in 21 hours ago.. fingers crossed

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 4:11 PM

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But really the question would be, if you have a Rift, why don't you use Oculus' own software?

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VRChat is on the Oculus store

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:11 PM

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doesn't matter what i use. the results are the same

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start the game, join a room, crash

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 4:12 PM

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That'll never be resolved btw, you need to work on the issue from your side. e.g. update Windows, clear game cache, etc.

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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done all that. gotta hang out in dead rooms i guess XD

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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How much RAM do you have and what other specs?

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(also are your GPU drivers up to date? etc etc)

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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16gb, 980 ti, i76700k and yep

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I had constant crashes on 16GB, so just something to keep in mind. Do you have anything else running in the background?

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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discord, steam and the oculus app

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i can't figure out how ten people can stand by the mirror in the pug but someone comes near me and my game nopes out 0.o

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Hmm, faulty RAM or overclocked GPU freaking out?

quasi osprey Oct 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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nah i dont overclock. tried that when i built my pc and got a bsod and never tried again

bitter smelt Oct 5, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Hi

bitter smelt Oct 5, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Hi

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Hello

tidal onyx Oct 5, 2019, 7:18 PM

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anybody else having issues with avatars rn

scarlet sorrel Oct 5, 2019, 7:21 PM

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naw

idle nova Oct 5, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Might want to be a bit more descriptive than that

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How do these issues manifest?

marsh sluice Oct 5, 2019, 8:00 PM

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anyone know where i can find avatars that play music?

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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make them yourself

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its not hard to put music into an avatar

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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It's also not hard to play music ingame via the mic

marsh sluice Oct 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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yea but thats toxic

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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And music playing avatars aren't?

marsh sluice Oct 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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there not that bad

covert blade Oct 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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... it makes no difference

marsh sluice Oct 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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better then it screaming threw your mic

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:02 PM

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instead of it playing music, put jumpscare sound effects on it and make a gesture for your avatar to turn invisible and spook people instead. Much more fun

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:04 PM

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I think someone playing music through their mic at a comfortable level is better than an avatar playing music also at a comfortable or louder level, due to the fact that some avatars playing music will be just as loud no matter how far away you are from the player, as opposed to someone playing through a mic who will get quieter as you get farther away from them.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:06 PM

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hello

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im planing on setting up Full body with a Xbox One kinect is there anything I should keep in mind

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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It will be buggy and a bit glitchy, and maybe annoying to set up.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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I have a Rift S, no base stations, and a extra Xbox One kinect im not using

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Basically just try to be patient.

idle nova Oct 5, 2019, 8:08 PM

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might not end up being that great overall, but if you already have the Kinect worth a try

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I've heard there's a way to use cheap LEDs to improve tracking with those setups

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There is a channel for #full-body-tracking btw

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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I have a kinect too. Its not the best, but its good for what it is. Cheapest FBT you can get

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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I used a kinect since I already had one, and a friend actually gave me a pc adapter so it was basically a free setup. I used it along with WMR for a long time and can say that besides the buggy mess it could be, it was fun and I'm glad I did it.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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oh i dint notice #full-body-tracking this server has to many channels

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:10 PM

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However, since upgrading to a Vive and actual trackers, I enjoy them so so much more and it's such a better option for dancing to me.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:11 PM

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im not planing on upgrading for a while so spending 25 bucks on a adapter and 2 hours or so on setup is kinda woth it for me

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:13 PM

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That's exactly what my mindset was as well. I think you should go for it and see how it works out.

idle nova Oct 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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What headset do you have Zboss?

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:24 PM

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rift s

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@idle nova

idle nova Oct 5, 2019, 8:25 PM

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ah yeah

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If you had a headset with the SteamVR base stations I say it's a harder sell to do full body with the Kinect

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when you have to add them into the cost of getting full body spending a bit on a Kinect is a lot easier to swallow

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

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if I had bace stations id just get the Vive Pucks

idle nova Oct 5, 2019, 8:27 PM

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yeah

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:28 PM

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step one get my dad to purchase a Kinect to PC adapter

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is there any important specs you need?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:29 PM

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You can also make your own adapter. It's much cheaper. You need a USB A-B cable, and a power cord that you solder to two pins

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

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well I dont have any experience with that kind oof stuff

main root Oct 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Is vrchat much better with vr headset?

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

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and I only got 1 Kinect

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its unanomusly better

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Yeah it's very different in VR

main root Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Oo decisions decisions..

marsh sluice Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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suggestions on vr headsets with a decent price range?

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Rift S

main root Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I want the rift s

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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400 USD

main root Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Mmhm

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:31 PM

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great specs

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easiest to set up

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Depends what you mean by "decent price range". The Index is definitely worth it.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:32 PM

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doesnt require much proccesing power

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mixed reality headet I heard was also ok

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also DONT GET THE QUEST

main root Oct 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Best to save for rift s

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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^

main root Oct 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Quest is 🤮 imo

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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also the cozmo is a wast of funding

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Rift S is good all around and a good price

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:33 PM

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why are they even making the Cozmo

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

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And the quest is actually really good, and has PC support coming soon with a cable you can plug into your computer. but the rift S is still better as a PC headset overall

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:34 PM

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ive been using the Rift S for 5 months now

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it works just fine

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Vive made the Cosmos and stopped making the Vive. 02shrug

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But I'm not a fan of the Cosmos

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

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cosmo is just a downgraded rift S in mmy opinion

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

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It's higher res screen, how is it downgraded?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Downgraded? How so?
On paper is should be way better.... But reviews are not so good

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More cameras, higher res, larger fov, the ability to use it wireless or with steamvr tracking (through add-ons)

sharp saddle Oct 5, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I hear the software support ain't there.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Yeah cosmos software apparently is bad and tracking is almost unusable right now

sharp saddle Oct 5, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Light-based tracking is bad.

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Bear in mind the Rift S had tracking problems on release.
Along with display problems and audio issues.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:38 PM

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True

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:39 PM

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i here the screendoor is worse, cant really read text, and (without bace stations) there is longer refresh time when contriolers loose tracking

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true @rough pulsar

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

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That doesn't make sense. The screen is 1440x1700 vs the rift S 1200x1440. The screen should be better on the Cosmos. But I hear the lenses aren't that great

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

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and yes you can read text in Rist S better then any other headset

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i heari have only tryed 2 headsets

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:40 PM

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That is false. There are other headsets clearer than rift s

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Text clarity might be a result of the FOV, PPD and subpixel array type

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:41 PM

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whats headsets are better?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Rift S is is very clear and good value for the money. But not the best

meager solstice Oct 5, 2019, 8:41 PM

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As of right now the index would be the best

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Well the Index for a start. The Odyssey+ should also have better clarity wouldn't it?

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

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yeah we got to remember how much bang for your buck the rift S is

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

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The index has better text clarity than the Vive Pro but both have same res screens, but the Pro has pentile subpixel arrays while the index is RGB stripe.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Index is sharper, HP Reverb is much clearer than those. And then there are others still in develpment that are near perfect clarity and sharpness

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Bang for your buck doesn't make it technically better.

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It just makes it cheaper

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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i know

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@faint skiff no the Odyssey+ isn't sharper. It's very beautiful, but it's soft

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Rift S is fairly good value if your IPD is within the supported range.
The Valve Index is overall the best HMD on the market. (key word being overall)

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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So I can't find any info about this but

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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my IPD is fine wth the rift s

carmine acorn Oct 5, 2019, 8:43 PM

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is the Index lighter weight than the Vive? It looks like it, but I'm not sure.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:44 PM

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how light is the Rift S compared to other headsets

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(besides the oculas go and quest)

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Which vive, and which generation? HTC did a few silent revisions to the Vive reducing the weight in some of them.

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But overall the Index is lighter than most (or possibly all) Vives.

meager solstice Oct 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

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I’m gonna upgrade to the index eventually

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Index is the dream... But too much for me animesweat

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also Canada

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

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And speaking of the Index, I'm gonna go slap mine on my face.

sharp saddle Oct 5, 2019, 8:45 PM

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I'll need a bigger room if I'm gonna upgrade to anything requiring lighthouses.

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

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i feel like as soon as I save up for the index thell be a better headset

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so im doing a bit of waiting

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

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The original Vive (which I have) was 555g, they then rereleased it later at 470g. The index is apparently 809g but ironically feels lighter due to how it fits onto your head.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:46 PM

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There's always a better headset in develpment

meager solstice Oct 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

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It’s just like gpus and cellphones (anything really)

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As soon as it comes out.... it’s already outdated

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Just be happy and enjoy whatever you have or can afford. Dwelling on what you could have will bring you down

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Yeah, basically it just comes down to what you can afford (unless you want FBT at some point)

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:48 PM

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everybody does mistakes. And its ok to do so. But some mistakes are bigger than others. For example buying the wrong headset just because someone said something about it

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Throwing in support for my odyssey +. All the issues I've been having have been solely because of the janky wmr software

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I cant wait till I can get full body set up

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I have some really wierd issues with wmr. When I have it plugged in, while I boot my pc. Its stuck in the mainboard companys logo screen. Or when I shut it down once I have to log off of windows and log in again

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I was considering Kinect 2 but Enverex smacked me and said no

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@broken plover I was having that issue as well. Are you on windows 1903?

queen bramble Oct 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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?

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:51 PM

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yeah

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maybe thats the problem :/

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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I mean, getting on 1903 is what fixed it for me

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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have you had both issues or only one of them?

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Kinect is fine if you can get it for <$30 just as a play thing. It's not worth actually investing cash into it, it's too limiting.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Also uninstalling and reinstalling wmr after getting 1903.

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I bought a kinect just for FBT but when I get vive trackers I can still use it as a webcam because I dont have one

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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@slow halo See if you can get a 360 kinect somewhere for next to nothing because those are normally basically free at this point and pick up a $5 power adapter.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I actually haven't had my headset plugged in when starting up except once when it said it couldn't detect the set. Bad to unplug/replug it

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I find that wmr relies heavily on windows being up to date. Even one update behind and it seems to break

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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@faint skiff haha, yeah.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I'm always updated and it works normally for me

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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@slow halo I'll use the Kinect next time you're on so you can see what it's like

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I've only seen one crash in wmr and that's when my CPU is being maxed out by an unrelated bug

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:54 PM

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i have windows up to date but I still have these issues. Or maybe Im 1 update behind? Everytime I download it it takes forever and slows down my already slow internet

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might leave it on through the night to download all those updates

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Winversion in search

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Yeah, sorry Nico. I keep meaning to try to see what happens when booting when it's plugged in, but by coincidence I haven't had the opportunity

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 8:56 PM

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18362.357 is the current build

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I think WMR headsets are seen as a display so your PC may try and boot with it as your primary display adapter.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I've got 18362.388

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Oh maybe the site isn't updated, I don't have 1903 to check

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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luckily I have it plugged into a usb hub with a switch for each port so I can just disable it

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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nice

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I was going to pick up a usb C adapter

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@faint skiff you don't have to do that. I saw triping and his set up

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Okay, I just rebooted with the headset plugged in and it takes a hot minute for my screens to work. I think the computer tries to send it to my headset first or something. No idea

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Oh found it, yep 388 is the current build. Yea, the GPU will just see it as a screen before the USB device that actually controls the device initializes.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Ah, it worked though!

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Didn't have to unplug and replug.

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I wonder if using the USB c adapter would alleviate that

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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The controller behind the type-c might be a better one than the other ports (if it is a different one, but most are)

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 9:05 PM

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@slow halo I think Triping got lucky though, his seems to work far better than I've ever seen Kinect work before.

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 9:07 PM

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He does seem pretty proud of it

worn wing Oct 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Its pretty specific in what it needs, within* two meters from the floor and atleast two meters from the player and it works fine. Cant lay down or go anything past a right angle looking at it hips wise. Sitting and standing work. But hey $30 for feet.

faint skiff Oct 5, 2019, 9:12 PM

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It looks OK from other people's perspective, but it feels inaccurate, laggy and floaty to yourself.

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I could squat like a russian once, but out of nowhere it kept glitching my hip around so I couldnt do that anymore :/

tacit plank Oct 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Watermarking images should be illegal

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Aka. I'm looking for textures for my world on Google

meager solstice Oct 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Edit the water marks out

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 9:24 PM

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theres a photoshop tool that lets you do exactly that

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if you dont have photoshop I can do it for you

long stump Oct 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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boi

tacit plank Oct 5, 2019, 9:30 PM

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That's difficult

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And thanks for the offer, but I probably downloaded 50 different textures so far, so it wouldn't be worth it

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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rule 15. No posting the same question or statement across multiple channels

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Why would you admit to that...

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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to get attention

slow halo Oct 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Right

queen mango Oct 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

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People love it. Until it starts to disrupt their daily lives.

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So you admit to doing a cybercrime?

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That's punishable, you know.

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:21 PM

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How else can a script kiddy flex on us normies?

broken plover Oct 5, 2019, 10:23 PM

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If you hack/destroy someones files/hardware it doesnt matter if that person was a bad guy or someone innocent. You still hacked/destroyed files/hardware

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:24 PM

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So you hurt an innocent and now you're bragging about it? I don't get it. Are you pychopathic?

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Please see a psychiatrist ASAP

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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You don’t need a psychiatrist for being edgy on the internet

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Idk, some probably do

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 10:27 PM

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It goes away on it’s own when you learn to have control over literally anything in your life vrcAevSip

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Indeed he did, but it's safe to assume he's probably just a script kiddy that didn't manage to do any of that

tidal aspen Oct 5, 2019, 10:38 PM

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lmfao dude said the same thing in a different discord

queen mango Oct 5, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Someday, I think that Karma will have a way with him. Times like these, stuff like those get treated seriously.

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean, the guy was being very vague. There isn’t much to go off on

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Vague enough that it seemed like bait

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

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He probably ran a few scripts that claimed to do what he said, but instead got ratted himself.

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Why would anyone go on the Internet and just lie about things

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Nobody would do that

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

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At least that's what I like to think happened.

tacit plank Oct 5, 2019, 10:46 PM

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All software breaks for me, people seemingly can't code worth shit anymore. Unity flickers between the login and welcome screen a few times per second, I can't paste in my credentials fast enough to press login because it clears it

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I logged into the website, but I can only download assets from within Unity

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Did you overwrite an old SDK?

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Did you jam your f5 key?

tacit plank Oct 5, 2019, 10:52 PM

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No to both, it's Unity doing it, even without an SDK

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It's because my computer thinks that it isn't connected to the internet. It tells Unity that I don't have a connection, but I'm online right now...

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It's shitty software all the way down

lunar cedar Oct 5, 2019, 10:53 PM

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I've had glitches with the hub not keeping licenses before, but the editor has always been okay for me. Sounds like a strange bug

tacit plank Oct 5, 2019, 10:54 PM

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I'm the king midas of strange bugs (everything I touch breaks)

pseudo basalt Oct 5, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Your fondness for Microsoft materialises into bugs

north axle Oct 5, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Do we have any mods around here?

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Could someone please clean up #vrchat-fan-art?

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Thanks.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2019, 11:52 PM

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hey why i can't add my new avatar to vrchat?

boreal violet Oct 5, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Is uploading enabled on your account?

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(needs to be a registered account, not your steam account, have a certain amount of hours and social interactions and then you get an email saying you can now upload, it should also say when logged into the sdk in unity)

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Did vrchat get rid of the kick/warn system?

slate verge Oct 6, 2019, 1:11 AM

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no its still there

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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update from 862 to 864, anyone else having an issue with hands and other parts of your own and other's avatars as well as the quickmenu disappearing when getting closer than around 40cm to your own viewpoint? here's an example of what i mean: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615293765237604363/630223275493949462/unknown.png and https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615293765237604363/630223319022436413/unknown.png

the distance with which the parts become invisible gets less with larger avatars but i have no interest in having to run around with a tall (3m+) avatar just to be able to properly give other cute nekos their headpats they deserve, especially as that will just scare them away anyway

torn nebula Oct 6, 2019, 2:14 AM

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@vocal shard the distance at which things disappear (the near culling plane) is set by the world's reference camera. If a world does not set this camera, the previous world's setting is preserved. This means that if you visit a world with a distant culling plane you will see that behavior until you visit a world with a closer culling plane configured.

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https://www.vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_100a0fb3-1e66-4cd8-b0cb-47353f10de88 if you're in need of a world with a close culling plane, you can try mine 🙂

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Thanks @torn nebula, visiting a new world and then switching back fixed it

torn nebula Oct 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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yep, not just any world will work, worlds without a reference camera will still preserve the prior setting.

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Any idea if there's a canny for that?

torn nebula Oct 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/allow-the-camera-near-clip-plane-to-be-configured-by-the-player

flint ore Oct 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Is anyone having an issue with the favorites menu glitching out? (When you unfavorite something, it refuses to go away and will end up being re-favorited again.)

torn nebula Oct 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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there are side effects to changing the near clip plane - in particular, the closer the near clip plane is, the worse Z-fighting is for objects with similar distances

gilded valley Oct 6, 2019, 2:36 AM

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anyone in here who has ever used the Xbox One kinect for pc have issues with it connecting and disconnecting constantly?

hollow breach Oct 6, 2019, 2:56 AM

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I did at the start

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Make sure you don’t have the mic disabled for the Kinect @gilded valley

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Keep it on

gilded valley Oct 6, 2019, 2:57 AM

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how though

hollow breach Oct 6, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Windows settings

gilded valley Oct 6, 2019, 2:57 AM

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if its just giga cycling with disconnect and reconnect

hollow breach Oct 6, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Sounds options

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Hmmm

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If that doesn’t work then idk, try searching something up on google

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Oh make sure you have the driver installed for it

gilded valley Oct 6, 2019, 2:59 AM

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like if i check, i don't see the kinect in the recording devices ;-;

gilded valley Oct 6, 2019, 3:29 AM

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i got it to work

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i disconnected fucking everything usb related and made sure i did blue port and it works now -_- after trying hella ports, im damn sure i put it in this port but w.e im not complaining

carmine acorn Oct 6, 2019, 3:49 AM

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playing music from google chrome into vrchat is so hard

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my brain is about to explode

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Just play it from your phone and put it up to your mic lmao

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2019, 3:57 AM

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e z way to get the fun little vrcTrollThinking rank

slate verge Oct 6, 2019, 4:05 AM

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Favorites avatar list is broken for me

turbid torrent Oct 6, 2019, 8:43 AM

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I have a quick Q, if I set a public world to private and then later set it to public again, does it have to go through community labs again?

empty flint Oct 6, 2019, 9:28 AM

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not sure when I will start learning how to make my characters do animated tricks/poses...

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suppose when I figure out what her behaviours are like I guess

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but I do have two things in mind for a start... one of them which my friend will be teaching me on DM

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flight (as she has wings and Im sure she can fly with them) and I guess to suit her cuteness maybe she raises her arms forward as if she's offering a hug or something?

twilit copper Oct 6, 2019, 9:40 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/submarine-sea-gif-12312741

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https://tenor.com/view/dis-tew-much-tew-much-too-much-cant-nope-gif-5433684

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:07 AM

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WHAT I can't do all caps

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Anyway vrchat upgrading to 2018??

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Yep ^^

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I'm looking forward to FRAMES

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Dance

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proper multithreading here we come bois

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unity_chan_dab

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Everyone I heard talking about it only mentioned hacked clients being harder to make because it'll be c++ instead of c#

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Everyone forgot about the whole FRAMES thing

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Wait so steamvr will finally support directx 12?

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Rift s

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I'm 65mm and rift s is fine

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Rift S is ideal for 64, and works 59-70

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Within that range, it's usually good. It has a very large sweetspot

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Huh is that why I don't need glasses with it

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Rift s is also the superior headset

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No, that's probably more if your range if clear vision is further than the focal distance

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Set supersampling to 5 and hmmm yum

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I'm near sighted

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:12 AM

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yall

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Like I can drive without glasses if I'm fine breaking the law and not reading signs

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:13 AM

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My ipd is the smallest

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Idk what number it is but yah

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:13 AM

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Same, but i need glasses in the rift S. I can only see clear about 1.5 feet without them

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:13 AM

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No glasses gang gang

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:13 AM

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My friend who I convinced to buy a rift s turned it to have 60mm ipd and said it was kinda weird

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:14 AM

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Whats the smallest ipd the rift offers

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:14 AM

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Normal Oculus and wmr I could read way better with glasses rift s is clear as day

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If the IPD is set wrong, it will look weird to you

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Rift s lenses don't move

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The rift S has great lenses

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It's like the wmr iod

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Ipd onl software

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@ivory axle the lowest software ipd on rift S is 58mm

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:15 AM

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What about rift

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Like the good one

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Lmao

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:16 AM

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I accidently put it on with my glasses and got a scratch I luckaly can't notice with it on but normal Oculus handled that better when it because my fug it backup headset

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58.8-70.2 is what my rift can be adjusted to

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Kool

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:16 AM

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How well does it handle lower ipds though

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:16 AM

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Good

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I have very low ipd like the smallest the oculus can do

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I was gonna upgrade to vive and fbt next month but imma wait until a better model gets released in the next year

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:17 AM

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Better model? Of what?

split finch Oct 6, 2019, 10:17 AM

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so i just found out im still visitor rank i have been vrchat for over a year im sure i have more then enough hours that sucks 😩

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:17 AM

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My friend swears it seems weird to them but admitted it might be because they just realized they're 60mm

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Index is out, and Vive is making the Cosmos their next headset

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Rift S and quest are here

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Like vive will probably release another product that will be the upgrade of the normal vive

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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You on a steam account?

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Index is too much im just gonna be patient

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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I doubt that. The Cosmos is their new flagship

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@split finch

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Legit i bought the rift and the rift s got released the week after

broken plover Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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they did bring out the cosmos, but that needs optimizing first. alot. especially the tracking

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Index is really good too

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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The cosmos doesnt look my thing imo

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:18 AM

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But I dislike how vrchat handles geastures with it

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Yeah well i dont have 1k in mypocket

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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It's a fun gimmick but rift controllers are the superior gaming controllers

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Yes

broken plover Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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speaking of index. Have they finally fixed the stick clicking issue?

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Bo

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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My controllers are fine

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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No

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Didn't put too much stress on them though one of them is a hip tracker now

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:20 AM

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I know someone who has replaced their controllers 5 times via warranty

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:20 AM

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I messed up my index cable

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Do I just email them or what

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Only advantage ive seen with index in vrc is just for mutes who do sign language

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Like gameplay wise

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:20 AM

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It's not that accurate

split finch Oct 6, 2019, 10:20 AM

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no im not guess its cause i dont add anyone i stay to myself oh well one day should happen i just cant build till then

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Ik the quality is good but like "yay i can move my pinkies"

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Better off using custom anims on rift controllers for sign language imo

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It's jenky sometimes

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Can't move fingers side to side

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Just back and fourth

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Im just waiting until something better gets released

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Can't organically change emotes on the fly

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Probably going to be waiting 3 years for a new headset

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Can't put middle finger up for rock and roll and it's hard to pull off

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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And something will get released because what will companies do just not produce anything for a whole year? Nah theyll be developing something

broken plover Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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they even had a glove that tracks each finger in the 19xx WHY DONT WE HAVE IT NOW??

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Yeah id rather wait than spend a ton on something not potentially good now

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Probably hard to pull off cost efficient and robust

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Index still has faults

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:22 AM

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It's a great headset

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

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But every headset thatll be relased has something new about it

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Good audio

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Thats why im waiting

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Yeah im aware @vocal shard ie researched into all headsets

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Rift s is comparable to it for cheaper

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Screen wise

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Yep.. i know.

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Hm

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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I dont have much atm either so if i were to get a vive and fbt id be broke

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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I like rift S. The screen feels like it has more sde to me compared to wmr, but everything else i like more about it

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Get that cdl dude

snow wadi Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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You don't need FBT right off the bat, it can wait.

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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@vocal shard didn't Lenovo help make it

ivory axle Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Ive had the original oculus for a year

vocal shard Oct 6, 2019, 10:24 AM

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@vocal shard yeah