#vrchat-general-2

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vocal shard
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Also the disposable income you have nothing to spend on

errant hare
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so is your place space something like this?

vocal shard
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Yeah vrchat is literally an improvement of our quality of life

errant hare
faint skiff
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There was a Japanese guy in the Black Cat last night who's avatar had a giant billboard behind them advertising their YouTube channel.

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Actually I think it was an advert for that software that lets you easily make and swap clothes on MMD avatars.

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VRoid Studio?

desert stratus
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reminds me of the handful of people who turned their avatars into booths and lolitered in vacant bits of the vket maps

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rEsOuRcEfUl, i guess. >u>

compact river
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I block ads on sight

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No matter how long it takes i will find a way to not see ads

desert stratus
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adblock for vrc

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"hey guys, tupper here. today on the october dev stream, we've partnered up with ublock to do this:"

a screen shows up revealing that all billboard avatars including the dynamic wendys ad have been clapped

compact river
faint skiff
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It wasn't too bad, the guy was also part of the board, stood infront of it as an actual person so you could talk to him, so it was interesting in that regard.

vocal shard
slow halo
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That's cool actually

desert stratus
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"we've created a deep learning AI that will analyze any audio or visual content emitting from avatars and confirm whether or not it is an advertisement. when udon comes out, you can implement this node in your worlds' programming to set the spawnpoint of offenders over the void"

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its one of those things that is really hard not to be obnoxious about but sounds really cool if done well and modestly-enough

lunar cedar
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I'm surprised people willingly use avatars with ads on them. The only ads I tolerate is if they're inside the body and crediting the author.

umbral reef
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I see those more as branding then advertising

faint skiff
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Yeah, the demo avatars look ... bad. A few people I spoke to about it didn't even realise they were walking around with advertising boxes or mini-billboards on them. I wonder if they're using shaders that hide them in mirrors?

lunar cedar
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I tried a few vket avatars and at the least the personal mirror showed the ones I tried

sour lily
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idk if i wanna vrchat when i get home or not

torn nebula
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Generally speaking the ads are visible in mirrors, but it's up to the individual avatar author in the end

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Some are more subtle though, there was one that only showed an ad when you used a specific gesture

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And trial mishe has a tastefully small "sample" tattoo, plus a tag attached to her zipper

vocal shard
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is it just me or is the api down?

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can't do anything on the homepage anymore

modern sand
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Everything's alright on our side, try clearing website cache and retrying ?

faint skiff
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Seems to be working fine for me too

sullen escarp
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seems to be that vrchat.cloud went down

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might be related

pseudo basalt
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minehut is also down vrcSad
truly the saddest timeline

polar jasper
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it's api.vrchat.cloud

modern sand
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gotcha, looking into it

polar jasper
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and that is still working

slow halo
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What a difference changing the minimum visible avatar setting to poor is

faint skiff
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Yeah, I get a massive boost in framerate doing that.

modern sand
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Very poor is the wild wild west

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Can be a light or 135 meshes AkkoShrug

snow wadi
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Henlo ovo/

modern sand
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but Poor will remove what can be removed, and it helps a lot

proper sail
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when i try to upload a avatar it always never pulls up the screen to upload it into vrchat how can i fix this?

modern sand
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check the unity console

faint skiff
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It's a shame that any particles at all bumps you down to Poor though (e.g. I'd like fire breath but I have to keep it on another avatar else I get bumped from Medium to Poor).

slow halo
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Theres a guy in the Pug playing music and it's just great

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This is my favourite vrchat content

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Sounds like Candyrat stuff. Andy Mckee

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I asked for Drifting but he's either not listening or doesn't have it.

vocal shard
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others have the same issue

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basically happens if you try to search for something or click on your own profile.

modern sand
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log back in ?

vocal shard
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tried..also with different account and other people tired as well

modern sand
proper sail
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its still not working

vocal shard
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is there a difference between .net and .com?

modern sand
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are you using .net ?

vocal shard
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yeah

modern sand
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use .com

vocal shard
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yeah it works thanks.
any reason why there is a .net and .com?
like is there any difference?

modern sand
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yes, but i'm not knowledgeable enough to explain what it is AkkoShrug

sullen escarp
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why even have both?

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tf

vocal shard
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it is ok thank you very much.
i always use the homepage to start my game with having steam closed or searching for maps

pseudo basalt
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net redirects to com

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At least the homepage does, but I remember having the same issues, whereas i'd always use .net in the past so it's probably a relatively recent thing?

vocal shard
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i just got confused as hell..i was logged in, everything worked well.
then done stuff in unity, tried to test it out and first got logged out and then had that error

proper sail
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i made a new project imported the files over and it still didn't work right and it doesn't want to load the upload screen

vocal shard
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Hi

sour lily
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just found out vrchat picks up my keyboard

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my mic sounds like shittt

tepid spindle
misty delta
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im making custom vrchat models, and unity says that im not yet allowed to upload to vrchat yet. does anyone knwo the estimated amount of time to spend to be allowed to upload?

sour lily
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it picks up the fan i always have running in the background and my keyboard (Which is an issue because i bhop everywhere)

tepid spindle
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There is no "set time".

misty delta
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ah

errant hare
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@misty delta Just running the game won't get you anywhere. You need to talk to people and get them on your friendslist, visit and favourite worlds and not get blocked/muted too much. Once you reach next rank (New User) you will be able to upload avatars and worlds

misty delta
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ok thx for the information

vocal shard
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fusl@linux-0lcz:~> dig vrchat.net @1.1.1.1
vrchat.net.             3600    IN      SOA     nina.ns.cloudflare.com. dns.cloudflare.com. 2032163307 10000 2400 604800 3600

huh, someone b0rked the dns for vrchat.net

lunar cedar
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It should probably just be cnamed, though it did have an A record when I checked earlier today.

vocal shard
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it used to point to the cloudflare servers

limber lake
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Is anyone getting kicked from the VRC website as soon as they log in or is it just me?

vocal shard
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the entire zone is basically gone. @, www. and api. all return no records anymore

lunar cedar
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my mistake, wasn't aware of RFC8482. ANY reqs are gone now

vocal shard
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yeah, looks like its back again

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so yeah, unplanned or planned+unannounced maintenance it probably was

faint skiff
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It does return records, you have to explicitly request them

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Cloudflare ignore ANY requests

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(annoyingly, and I hate them for it, makes my job harder)

void pumice
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Can someone help me with an streaming issue?

umbral reef
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might be handy if you actually say your problem because its hard for anyone to help if they dont know your problem

void pumice
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Lol I did in a different room and no one said anything so I didn't know if I was ok to. I figured it out though

slow halo
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want to play VRchat but my headset comes in tomorrow and I'm done playing desktop mode

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so just gonna do something else I guess...

covert blade
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Hmmm, it gone already?

inner cape
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coram you naughty naughty

slow halo
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Whoah!

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It weren't me! Someone was selling themselves in here

inner cape
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yeah of course!

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as if id believe you

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😤

slow halo
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Haha

faint skiff
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Tomorrow, or as it shall henceforth be known for you - ascension day.

slow halo
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here's hoping it all works

umbral reef
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those are some insane knockoffs

lunar cedar
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Why would someone knockoff a bad design?

faint skiff
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In-ear headphones are horrible for me. They almost never stay in and the sound doesn't sound remotely accurate due to how and where it's reproduced.

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Also those are so cheap too...

worthy oracle
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video players broke again

slow halo
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yeah I'll stick with my over ear cans

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pair of hyperXs at the PC and a pair of Denons at my work desk

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that's honestly my one massive gripe with the Odyssey +. The... ear speakers aren't removable/replaceable

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but hey maybe I won't mind them so much

lunar cedar
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They're not half bad, but no matter how good an on-ear can be, over-ear > on-ear

slow halo
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def

compact river
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Ya i was unsure of the index over ear now i would rather have that then my headset

ruby needle
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index is free floating, not over ear

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and i personally hate that aspect, cus that means it aint sealing

fleet beacon
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I love VRChat! I hope it never dies.

slate verge
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i didn't even know vrchat had a merch store

willow coyote
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Me too

tawny elk
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@vocal shard linux-0lcz is a good name

neat mauve
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Hello peasants

compact river
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Talking about heat not touching is the best

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Also sounds great

neat mauve
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Wth

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Lmao

crimson comet
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how do i join vr chat

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lol

tacit plank
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Recently I found a world with free booth avatars (stolen) and wanted to report it, but stolen assets is not on the list of reasons

undone cobalt
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you launch it through steam or in the oculus store @crimson comet

crimson comet
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i search up vr chat on steam and i cant find it @undone cobalt

pseudo bobcat
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vrchat, not vr chat

crimson comet
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ohh

undone cobalt
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what he said

covert chasm
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thank you orkel

crimson comet
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thanks you everyone

covert chasm
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seeing people and NEWS ARTICLES (really?) say "vr chat" really irritates me

slate verge
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hi tupper senpai!

pseudo bobcat
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orkel👌

covert chasm
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hi cirHi

slate verge
vocal shard
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Does anybody have some crazy stories to tell in VR Chat?

slate verge
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i do, but not now

compact river
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I do but no

vocal shard
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send me a friend request on Discord? I'm trying to make a video. (if your down to tell them)

fair pine
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🤡 - Fixed an issue where users could sit in their own stations 🤡 '

slate verge
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i don't get about that part

vocal shard
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Wasn't the issue that if people sat in their own station, they would launch in the air?

compact river
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If you grab your own chair object it would not sure about avatars

slate verge
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never experience that before

compact river
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You end up in space

grand zealot
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No fun allowed

slate verge
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well why would people do that in the first place

errant sedge
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Flying is fun, now we cant fly

grand zealot
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They patch out anything we find creative and fun

pseudo bobcat
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with the way that bug worked the opportunities for malicious shit were endless, i'm a bit surprised it took them a few days to fix it

errant sedge
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what do you mean malicious shit? It was harmless. All it enabled you to do was go through walls

pseudo bobcat
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not the flying part. the bug that allowed it in the first place

supple bison
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Just gonna disable auto updates for my game

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so the kerbal space program can live on

compact river
sullen escarp
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cool update, thanks

crystal fossil
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Yeah, the setting objects on specific layers things was probably scary. The sitting in your own chair thing that we used it for was actually harmless. Their official stance is they don't like people clipping through things in worlds. Let me just use a 50 foot avatar and ferry people across myself. I'd never use a client, but plenty of people use it for that exact thing. So lets not support sitting in your own chairs and all that they can do.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

slate verge
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update killed my base stations

compact river
slow halo
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Hey @covert chasm How are you guys doing? There's so much anger, want to make sure you guys aren't, like, getting super down or anything

crystal fossil
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Hey, I get that they have to put panic-bandaids to "fix" things that crop up.

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Just wish they'd support more than they remove support for.

slow halo
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sure, that's the ideal for any game right? I just hate that the vocal part of the gaming community tends to forget that game devs are people too. It's a real shame seeing so much passive- and not-so-passive-aggressive anger

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something something Llen is a kiss ass. Meh.

crystal fossil
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It's not kiss assery. They are people. A lot of people in my circles that complain forget that too. But cutting off creativity is also always very disappointing.

slow halo
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Yeah. But the way I figure, something like that eventually falls out of use anyway as more and more people do it, and eventually someone figures out some new thing and that sweeps through. There'll always be some weird glitch that people can have fun with, until they can't

rigid crescent
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It's just like chairs. Chairs were included, they were removed, people rioted in the streets

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They added them back and it was cool for like 2 weeks then everyone stopped caring

crystal fossil
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It's not super easy to do and the possibilities are pretty great.

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I'd use the iron man flight regularly.

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You'd forget about it because it became a natural part of things.

slow halo
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I'm not innocent of the change rage myself. I've gotten plenty angry in the past over things changing in games I really cared about, so I shouldn't and won't judge the anger, but still

compact river
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I still dont like the rank system

sullen escarp
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same

crystal fossil
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Yeah, colored names is and always was bad.

rigid crescent
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Same thing, people stopped caring about those too

crystal fossil
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The (rank) in parenthesis is fine. Colored names? No.

sullen escarp
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i still hate colored names

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make everyone green again

potent ridge
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is there anyone who i can talk to about helpin me make avatars? i have one in mind but idk how to use SDK

compact river
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I block same perms for trusted as i do for visitor so kinda stayed the same

slow halo
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I've only known coloured names so I can't say anything about that...

potent ridge
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if anyone can help msg me plz

crystal fossil
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Makes people different in the wrong ways. You can't always trust a purple name, but they have a purple name so

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It should really just be a rank under their green name tag only when you open hand menu.

rigid crescent
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No one even cares about the colors any more, the only people i see complain are the ones who don't have purple lol

sullen escarp
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imo coloring people like that adds some implicit bias about them somewhere in your mind

rigid crescent
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While it could be displayed better, it's hardly a downside any more

sullen escarp
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it still sucks

rigid crescent
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A bias? Why would it do that?

slow halo
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Just do what I do: Be born colourblind

sullen escarp
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i think it might be intimidating to new users

slow halo
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is he purple? Is he blue? Who cares

rigid crescent
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I've been set to Green since the system was released

sullen escarp
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me too

rigid crescent
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I've never felt treated any differently than i was prior

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nor have I felt treated differently the few times i've had it to purple

sullen escarp
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but it's not about how you feel about your tag

compact river
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I was orange when the system first came out 1.0

rigid crescent
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the most i get from friends and acquaintances are "Wait how are you not trusted?", toggle, and "oh, ok"

compact river
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2.0 update made me purple

crystal fossil
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Like it or not, people use safety settings and I like my optimized, cool model to be seen fully.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

slate verge
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i don't get it, it keeps saying my base stations line of sight isn't working, but from before it was fine as they are mounted on the wall

rigid crescent
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People will see what they want to see, that's always been one of their main goals

sullen escarp
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i'd like to see green names

compact river
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I block very poor

crystal fossil
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So I stay on trusted, is what I meant. Because the default for trusted is better.

tacit plank
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The default minimum clipping plane is forced to 0.01 by Unity. If I make a script which changes it even lower when the scene is played, will I be able to overwrite this limit?

rigid crescent
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I mean everyone just shows my avatar lol

tacit plank
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I'll have to code my own shader to overlay on the scene or something. You gotta fix everything yourself in this shitty program.

compact river
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O unity?

tacit plank
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Yeah

still lark
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@tacit plank why do you wanna go lower? xd

tacit plank
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Because 0.01 is about 1 centimeter, and I should be about to move my camera inside somebodies mouth without it becoming invisible for no good reason

still lark
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You can't have custom scripts in VRC, so good luck

crystal fossil
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Just set camera farther back.

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Goof.

sullen escarp
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decrease FOV to make things look closer :^)

tacit plank
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I can overwrite the users default perspective camera with a custom one, but its position and such is ignored

crystal fossil
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If it's just for accuracy in the scene, make an empty gameobject, parent the camera to it, and move it back enough to have "accurate" clipping. Then just move the parent instead of the camera.

tacit plank
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I will need to overwrite the GPU function which discards pixels at a distance

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Wait, will that work?

crystal fossil
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I don't know what you're trying to do. But that's my idea.tm

tacit plank
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Every player in the world will have their camera settings overwritten by the vrc_world components camera overwrite setting

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But Unity changes it back if you make it below 0.01 because they're a bunch of bitches

crystal fossil
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OOOH

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No. That's not going to really help.

tacit plank
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You never know with Unity, it works in mysterious ways

still lark
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Don't do that caffeine

crystal fossil
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An avatars clipping on a camera is subjective. It's up to the person who made the avatar to make the clipping proper.

tacit plank
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It uses the worlds camera setting, it has nothing to do with the avatars

crystal fossil
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If minimum clipping works for one avatar and not another, the one that is off is due to them having the viewpoint not set properly.

vocal shard
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Viewpoint clipping is world dependant

crystal fossil
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See above.

tacit plank
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That's the eye position. The issue with the clipping plane is that anything which gets near you is removed. The pixels are discarded kind of like how the "personal space" setting works

crystal fossil
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Oh, have you ever not had that?

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You have to clip through them eventually.

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\o/

tacit plank
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If your clipping plane differences (maximum distance over minimum distance) is above 10000, things can start shaking. But if you use old 5.6 avatars, they have no clipping plane at all, which proves that Unity is just limiting itself for the sake of it.
And yeah, you can partly fix it

still lark
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Saigo is in a other dimension atm

tacit plank
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It should not draw items which are behind you, but as long as they're in front of you, you should be able to see it

sullen escarp
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well to be fair all the 5.6 avatars have buggy, broken shaders

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... but they mostly work

crystal fossil
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I get it now.

tacit plank
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You have the same issue in Blender, until you lower that clipping plane too. But Blender accepts 0.0001 like a champ, Unity is just a bitch

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Unities non/perspective camera also allows for negative clipping planes as far as I'm aware. But you'd not be popular in VRchat if you overwrite peoples camera settings with one without depth

crystal fossil
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I've never felt awkwardness when my viewpoint was proper though. Because if I go any closer, I start clipping visually AND physically.

still lark
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Unity probably wasn't made with seeing microns in mind

vocal shard
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my bruddas

crystal fossil
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And if I could get as close as possible, I'd start seeing pixels in a texture anyway?

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Unless insanely high res?

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lol

tacit plank
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Yeah, but it's better than seeing the inside of their head

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This mostly matters due to headpats btw

crystal fossil
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But clipping is the "STAWP" notification.

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Lol Headpats. Always headpats.

tacit plank
crystal fossil
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But it's never been that drastic in VRC.

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Unless they're super small.

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Then it should clip like that.

tacit plank
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It has. It's about 30 centimeters by default, though a lot of worlds are starting to correct it

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Small avatars definitely have it worse, yeah, lol

crystal fossil
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oof. I've never had clipping that bad unless my face is inside theirs.

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I'd need to be in a world that bad and think to get that close to someone.

still lark
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@tacit plank the client clamps the near clip to 0.01-0.05

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If it was 30cm, you wouldn't see anyone's face if they got close

tacit plank
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I've seen it be that bad before

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But recently worlds are better (probably even VRChat's official worlds) and your camera settings stay until you join a new world (unless it has its own overwrite)

crystal fossil
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That reminds me. VRChat uploaded worlds have been a little broken for a while.

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They should update them.

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Unless they frequently do, but they're still kinda borked.

shy wigeon
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Not sure where to ask this, but the spookality event mentioned all assets need to be original in the rules, does that mean you can't use paid unity assets...?

modern sand
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depends if the license allows you to or not

supple bison
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See y'all in rec room 😎

compact river
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no thanks

vocal shard
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Garryschat 2019.

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😔

supple bison
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VRC dark rp 2019

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No prop climbing

crystal fossil
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I don't get why worlds are being prioritized over avatars right now when I'd figure most worlds will break when UDON replaces triggers and they'd need the content of interesting avatars to fill the void while people recover/learn UDON and take their time making something worthwhile with it.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tacit plank
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Can I do post-processing without the post-processing stack addon thingy? Like just apply a texture+shader to the camera and upload it?

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Making a medium-quality VRchat world takes a few hours, we'll be fine. I'll definitely have fun with UDON though

crystal fossil
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Yeah, with knowledge and resources you have currently.

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Not learning new things and how to replace all that you use to have.

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Just saaaying.

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Of course, chairs work off triggers too, so I guess they'd break too? Unless we grandfather a bunch of things in and out.

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Avatar flight 3.0 with UDON. Coming soon. tm

fiery ferry
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Good joke.

blazing anchor
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every update has to break something, dosent it?

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this is why we cant have nice things

crystal fossil
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LOL

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Yeah, removed self sitting and ruined chairs.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen escarp
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what a beautiful and polished bugfix that the community desperately needed

errant sedge
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thanx devs

compact kraken
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Hello

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May i ask something about crashing problem.

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VRChat has encountered an error and must close.

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Vrchat - Unity 2017.4.28f1

lunar cedar
compact kraken
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i tried those methods

crystal fossil
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Is it constant or occasional?

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Because VRC just happens to crash sometimes.

compact kraken
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i can't send pic here right?

crystal fossil
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You'd have to link it.

compact kraken
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i saw some reports that same case as mine but still can't figure it out how to fix it

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i just screenshot that thingy.

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i can't launch my game

crystal fossil
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The reason for the crash is usually in the output log. It's not hard to read, usually. If you sent it in, they might get around to it, but if no one else bothers it may take a bit.

compact kraken
supple bison
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VRChat is the new Microsoft of failed updates

rigid crescent
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you'll forget about it in a week dw

grand zealot
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we don't though

supple bison
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Still remember when custom scripting was gonna be "integrated?"

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Audio bug.

sullen escarp
grand zealot
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the devs will

quiet prawn
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No Mic, we don't forget. We keep track and score points.

rigid crescent
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just like how people forgot about chairs the first time they were completely removed

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and how they forgot about them after they were re-released

still lark
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Sounds like a perception bias to me!

rigid crescent
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🤷

compact kraken
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I wanna play T.T im so bored.

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im trying to find an answer how to fix that problem like a week now

supple bison
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Simple.

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[Uninstall]

compact kraken
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i tried those already

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3x Delete all files and reinstall.still same problem.

supple bison
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No, just don't re-install

tired fox
fluid bloom
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ay
spooktober is here

winged pumice
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k

fluid bloom
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you seem very excited

dry trellis
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spooktober

fluid bloom
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ye 💀

tacit plank
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Can I make my own post-processing? I don't want to use that stack addon, I need a custom post-processing and it's a really simple one

still lark
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Technically, yeah.

lost minnow
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Technically.

tacit plank
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How? The main camera doesn't accept a shader or a regular material

weary shard
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Hello

vocal shard
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hi

warped swift
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There should be a thing where you can see all the avatars in a world

covert blade
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@warped swift wdym?

lunar cedar
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Lots of places require users to solve a puzzle or reach a secret zone to find the coolest of avatars. That would break those worlds

covert blade
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So basically join a world and have all avatars in that world in a menu?

lunar cedar
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Or they could mean a wallhack? idrk

covert blade
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My first thought was avatars hidden due to safety and performance settings

lunar cedar
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Maybe, though that sounds like a personal lag button xD

harsh helm
#

It seems that the new update broke flying avatars like the Kerbal. Does anyone know any kind of workaround?

grand zealot
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nope

harsh helm
#

What is the easiest way to complain about it to the devs?

lunar cedar
#

just upvote it there

flat veldt
#

post on twitter with #vrchat tag

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😂

harsh helm
#

Will do.

flat veldt
#

im mad about the flying in chair to

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merlin did such a good job

harsh helm
#

The devs were put into a position where they can effectively add an amazing fun feature by literally just doing nothing, and they actively removed it.

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Many people are pissed about the change.

flat veldt
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^

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also saw it

cold talon
#

Wait why they removed the self sitting on chairs

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The feature wasn't officially supported because it would be too confusing for new players if they accidentally clicked on their own station according to tupper. But this way you were 100% sure what you were doing, no new player would just stumble upon this. What is the logic?

errant sedge
#

Where's the "Allow fun" canny?

vast tulip
#

if they added it as a feature, it will be as a real feature in the future, and not leave the bug version of it in, like exactly what happened with stations on avatars. that started as a bug that was removed. they wont just leave a bug in place with 0 design put into it

cold talon
#

Ok, so tupp said in a canny response that it wasn't a intended behavior and as such could not be supported as future unrelated updates might break it.
But why actively go after it to "fix" it, just leave it in there untill some random update breaks it unintentionally if it's "not supported" don't actively seek to remove fun stuff. And besides, you could just just make the whole thing a checkbox to enable self sitting, heck could even reuse one of the existing one since they don't do anything when placed on avatars.

robust sparrow
#

Aloha senpai army

vast tulip
#

because the longer you leave it, the more people use it and the more people expect it to be supported. if people are upset about it breaking now. you think people would be less upset later, when more people are using it, if it broke on accident? no. people would demand that this "feature" be "fixed" when it was never one to begin with. if something like this will be in the app, it will be put in officially with actual design put into it, and, be supported from then on.

If it gets added, I dont know if they plan to, but, this is similar to when chairs got added to avatars, and, that was added later, officially, after it was removed as bug a few months before

cold talon
#

Yes, no doubt the comunity would be mad abut having them broken as with anything, but if they know that it was an unintended behavior people would be more understanding, the real problem isn't that it got removed, it's why it got removed, and that officially supported version of the removed feature take ages to get implemented, if it would be added back in like a week or 2 even as a not so perfect feature, I can assure you that nobody would complain. So many more avatars could be built around this, it was one of the reason the "bug avatar chairs" were such a big deal.

crystal fossil
#

Just make/find an avatar that has a chair so the person sitting in it can use it for flight. Then have a friend clone it and you can both "legally" fly that way by sitting on each other's chair. It just won't be synced in world like the self-sitting was.

  • I meant with an animator, not spiraling uncontrollably into space.
cold talon
#

Also, this quick fix introduced even more issues with the local side of avatar chairs.

crystal fossil
#

You'll still clip through world until VRC takes the next step and removes chairs completely though.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

robust sparrow
#

May aswell remove custom avatars, they can be extremely dangerous =)

cold talon
#

Flying with someone else chair is absolute garbago, with self sit you could even behave as a full on rigid body fly/slide around in any direction / orientation

crystal fossil
#

Eh. I know someone that has it set up to work exactly like the Jetpack prefab.

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It's very well done.

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And they decided to make it so the person sitting can use it and just use the other person for themselves.

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But not right now, I guess. Since VRC's "fix" just generally broke chairs a little bit.

cold talon
#

A "little bit"

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The overiddes don't works locally no moreNotLikeMiya

robust sparrow
#

Too bad you have to buy fbt to be able to sit now

crystal fossil
#

Well, you can still use them. They just don't work like chairs right now.

cold talon
#

@robust sparrow it was all planned to make HTC more money vrcSmooSmart

robust sparrow
#

Omegalul

snow wadi
#

Or just use seated mode.

cold talon
#

?

robust sparrow
#

?

crystal fossil
#

Squats.

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Get gains.

snow wadi
#

Exactly.

vocal shard
#

does anyone else seem to have the problem of not seeing other people in worlds?

crystal fossil
#

Did you update?

vocal shard
#

gonna check

snow wadi
#

There was an update earlier today.

cold talon
#

That "fixed" chairs pfft

robust sparrow
#

Lets downgrade to "un-fix" the "fix"

vocal shard
#

👀

crystal fossil
#

People get drunk and pass out in VRC then wake up and can't see anyone because they update while you were down.

snow wadi
#

I barely sit anyway, have you seen my avatar @cold talon ? XD

cold talon
#

I'm still waiting for a response from mimivrcAevSip

faint skiff
#

@crystal fossil Real-life langoliers

snow wadi
#

Also this hospital bed sucks.

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My car is more comfy xD

cold talon
#

Tbh Qhala, for your avatar leaning back 10 degrees and you are already touching the ground

snow wadi
#

The ground disappears when I sit.

vocal shard
#

hm yeah, cant seem to update vrchat for whatever reason

cold talon
#

Sounds like an exploit to me vrcVPoorThinking

snow wadi
#

And if there was anyone under my chest then God speed.

vocal shard
#

im stuck in build 860

cold talon
#

Time to remove qhala

snow wadi
#

D:

cold talon
#

Since it wasn't an intended behave our and cannot be supported for future updates

snow wadi
#

What I do? ;_;

crystal fossil
#

Maybe restart Steam?

vocal shard
#

ye

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yeah restarted steam

cold talon
#

tsk tsk tsk glitching players thru the map, making the ground disappear, that's some pretty buggy stuff my dude, can't allow that into this game, what if someone uses it in murder?

cosmic dagger
#

people use the skateboard for that ^ sad really.

snow wadi
#

It's funny in murder because if I'm the murderer I hide the knife in my boob xD

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And people just collapse when I walk towards them.

cosmic dagger
#

is vrc down btw?

cold talon
#

If it only was because of the knife vrcFPaulSip

faint skiff
#

That is kinda cheaty... or rather very cheaty...

cosmic dagger
#

for the past 5 minutes it's been black screen, then load to home, black screen. Deleting cache and restarting steam did nothing

snow wadi
#

Although it does make me a very easy target, just aim at my general direction. I also get knifed easy because of my size.

cold talon
#

Almost as cheaty as self sitting chairs dare I say

snow wadi
#

Seated mode was there since eons...

faint skiff
#

What does seated mode have to do with in-game chairs?

cold talon
#

Why are you talking about seated mode, it has nothing to do with it cattoscream

snow wadi
#

I was giving you the alternative solution to the chair issue.

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Did you really not figure that out? Lmao

cold talon
#

It, doesn't really work like that vrcJamieVatarga

faint skiff
#

Er, switching to "Seated Mode" makes your avatar stand all the time. That's literally the opposite to the in-game chair issue, lol.

night pike
#

Dont you just love it how much less crashing of game there is now? Just a month or two ago it was horrible.

snow wadi
#

Standing mode then.

cold talon
#

@night pike ye because they removed the self seating on chairs /s

robust sparrow
#

Nono they fixed the super dangerous exploit

faint skiff
#

@night pike Yeah, I've not crashed for a good while now, which is nice. I did, however, have the game stuck at a max of 11fps yesterday, it was horrible.

snow wadi
#

Mmk doctors here brb

cold talon
#

Aight, God speed @snow wadi

iron rune
#

How much hrs u guys got in vrc

subtle salmon
#

too many :>

robust sparrow
#

1.3k on my alt, 2k on my main yikes

night pike
#

I have shitty pc and managed to stay in full pug for an hour although I had constant freezing. Idk if latest update ade any performance improvements, just comparing to recent time to few months ago

cold talon
#

Less than I can count

iron rune
#

I got around 3300

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And now I'm bored of it

snow wadi
#

Welp, getting yeeted from hospital with meds.

night pike
#

But if chairs fixed lag then that is great

snow wadi
#

Whee /o/

iron rune
#

I got 4 trusted accs tho

faint skiff
#

Why would people have alts on a social game?

robust sparrow
#

Alt steam account

subtle salmon
#

Oof, hope alls well soon Qhala ~

cold talon
#

Hey nuko make a flying avatar using chairs they are super fun
O h w a i t

iron rune
#

Lmao didn't make avatar for months now

night pike
#

Some people might want to be away from friends or not be known anymore so thats one reason for alts

iron rune
#

I make alts because achieving trusted is for me a mission got 4 on trusted and other 3 on known

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Even tho I just troll my friends with the other ones 👀

crystal fossil
#

It's surprisingly easy to kill your internet self and reset just by making an alt.

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My guess.

iron rune
#

UsE vpN wHeN plaYinG vRchaT

cold talon
#

Inb4 Alting is not an intended behavior and will be remove

faint skiff
#

I mean, alting does seem a bit creepy to be honest....

iron rune
#

I stalked some people with alts

crystal fossil
#

Lol. VPN used to crash VRC. My IP throttles me when I use a VPN now that net neutrality is gone.

iron rune
#

Lol if I use normal ip I can barely load into
vrc

#

But when is use vpn everything works

#

Fast af

cold talon
#

Vpns are always slower because more hops to make, no way around that nikoshrug

vast tulip
#

that's not true at all

night pike
#

Cant you really find better internet provider?

vast tulip
#

often, a vpn can be much faster if the normal routing of your ISP sucks

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which usually it does

night pike
#

How shitty are your country's isps wtf

vast tulip
#

many people notice a general increase in stability by using a good VPN

faint skiff
#

VPNs are normally slower, but not always. I know a bunch of websites actually work much faster if I route through my proxy server in a completely different country, which is weird and somewhat annoying.

iron rune
#

TeLekOM o2 VodafonE baD

cold talon
#

Well if your isp routing sucks than yes, vpn is faster, but what isp do yall use

crystal fossil
#

Yeah, when the best internet you can get in a city is 20mbps.

#

oof

vast tulip
#

doesnt really matter. it can be different area to area for each isp

faint skiff
#

Yeah, I'm on an unstable 24Mb connection 😦

iron rune
#

I got 100 in a village 👀 @crystal fossil

crystal fossil
#

I have 100mbps. I had a friend in Philippines urban that could only get 14mbps max.

cold talon
#

002shrug ok

iron rune
#

Just move to UAE

#

U get 200-400mbps there

#

But discord is banned there

crystal fossil
#

I could get 300 here buuut.

iron rune
#

Where the fword do u live

crystal fossil
#

In rural USA.

#

Just money.

iron rune
#

Lol I live in a German village and get a 100mbps

#

And could go up to 180

#

But that's the maximum my ISP can give

crystal fossil
#

Just wish there was a package that gives you more UP instead of just more and more DOWN.

iron rune
#

I got 50up

night pike
#

Up down?

crystal fossil
#

USA ISPs think it's all about the DOWN.

night pike
#

Oh yeah upload download

iron rune
#

50 upp 👌

cold talon
#

I live in a city and the max we can get here is 1gb/s thru fiber, but idk if the price is justified

vast tulip
#

I have 1Gb/s down and up. using my VPN I dont notice a difference in the speeds I usually get

crystal fossil
#

Lol 100 down and 10 up.

vast tulip
#

I have noticed things in vrchat improving using the VPN though. such as first loading into the world. not the download, but, the world load

faint skiff
#

Looks like I've resynced, I now have 22/5.2 😦

night pike
#

4:3 ratio for me

crystal fossil
#

Wonder if world load is about number of object also.

#

Avatars stayed at 100% for so long the more objects they had in hierarchy.

night pike
#

Does it really make enough difference having 100mbps+? Almost everything takes max few minutes to download which is not long

cold talon
#

What you really want is a low ping

vast tulip
#

I'll say, it's usually not noticable. I think steam is the only think that I have seen that can take advantage of 100Mb/s or more

crystal fossil
#

Well, I downloaded Destiny 2 on Steam in an hour and a half. My friend took 5 hours.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cold talon
#

You can have 10gb/s but with a ping of 800 than, that's a no go

lunar cedar
#

Having 180 down feels like a joke when upload is 2

crystal fossil
#

^

night pike
#

Lol

cold talon
#

2 on upload OmegaGay

faint skiff
#

180 down wouldn't even work with 2, it would saturate it.

crystal fossil
#

Lol Quest, now. If you get the cable.

cold talon
#

Sounds like my phone network provider

lunar cedar
#

The only thing 180 really functions for is Netflix and YouTube 👌

vast tulip
#

slow upload speed is a scam that ISPs do on people who dont know better! I have heard that complaining will often get them to change the upload speed, just by asking about it

faint skiff
#

Quest still has a lot of caveats, don't assume it's better than the Rift S.

crystal fossil
#

It's better with the cable they added.

lunar cedar
#

Not where I live. It's cable infrastructure that only gets downstream upgrades

cold talon
#

Getting 50k/s ulpaod on phone connection BahkaSad

faint skiff
#

@crystal fossil Do you know all the compromises the cable makes?

crystal fossil
#

I know the versatility makes it better than the Rift S, generally. But no, not really.

faint skiff
#

It'll still be rendering BELOW the panel resolution. It'll still have forced foveated rendering. It'll be using lossy video compression to send the image to the display, etc.

night pike
#

S has way better comfort, pain can 100% ruin you will to play vr

subtle salmon
#

I have a few second hand accounts that the quest is super uncomfortable after a short while, so even with the cable ~ I dunno, probably wouldn't be something I'd recomment.

faint skiff
#

People really need to stop blindly recommending the Quest

crystal fossil
#

I meeean, I use the Index, so.

#

Lol

#

The controllers are bad, mkay.

faint skiff
#

The Quest is also the most uncomfortable headset I've ever used.

night pike
#

If you have small or big ipd quest could be better cheap option.

faint skiff
#

@vocal shard It doesn't connect to your phone.

#

Oh, you need an app to do initial setup, but that's it.

tacit plank
#

I'm not sure if it's a problem or not, Adolf, but political speech and avatars and such aren't allowed, so you might wanna change nickname on this server

faint skiff
#

You don't need your phone connected in any way past that point.

tacit plank
#

"need an app" I bet it requires a ton of permissions lol

faint skiff
#

Well you can delete the app after initial setup anyway.

night pike
#

Well, it does force location on to connect to quesr which I despice

cold talon
#

Allow quest to make and manage calls Scared

faint skiff
#

Just use a burner phone, lol

tacit plank
#

Allow quest to read emails
Allow quest access to contacts
Allow quest your left kidney and firstborn child
Allow quest access to mic and camera

night pike
#

Every time I need to use phone app to ocnnect to quest I temporarily allow it and make sure the app wont run in background afterwards

cold talon
#

Allow quest to acces GPS for more accurate location BahkaScared

tacit plank
#

Disable the GPS and it pings your nearby networks and triangulates your position just slightly less accurately than GPS (like 5 meters)

#

Because fuck what the user thinks and what the user wants

faint skiff
#

But anyway, people saying "get the Quest, it's better than the Rift S now you can connect it to a PC" because it's got a load of "but..." limitations which everyone blindly ignores. I have no idea why people fanboy over that headset so much.

tacit plank
#

1$ from selling your contacts is more important than your user experience, apparently.

#

Could be advertising or just the fact that it's easily accessable for normies too now

cold talon
#

Hey, it's either ads or that LUL

tacit plank
#

Or both if you let them

cold talon
#

"senator, we run ads"

#

App literally reads deleted data FingerGuns

#

Take that delete button

#

Ye, just removes the markers for that data

#

Gotta rewrite all bits with 0 AnikiSleep

vocal shard
#

hi everyone

dapper tendon
#

Bye lol

vocal shard
#

rawr

covert palm
#

nya

vocal shard
#

why when i'm joining to my friends i see no one in the server

slow halo
#

Did you update your game?

#

There was an update yesterday

vocal shard
#

oh i didn't wait

#

thanks man

#

VRChat won't update for me.

#

Did you try restarting steam entirely ?

#

Yes.

#

Even went to the point of killing all related processes.

faint skiff
#

Are you sure it hasn't already updated?

vocal shard
#

Build 860, not latest.

#

Cannot see others.

#

Maybe reinstall the whole game? I’m not sure

#

hi everyone

dusty spoke
#

Ello

true sky
#

imma enjoy 860 before updating

#

😠

inner cape
#

bro, i still gaming on 801

true sky
#

and you will know why 😠

cold talon
#

Yo ghosto, don't update, keep the self sitting chairs

true sky
#

a fix that could have had colliders fixed where you collide and made a cool feature

vivid obsidian
#

Big oof vrchat not working

#

ON quest

true sky
#

but yeah, it shows that they are willing to ruin fun

#

cause 2 of my avatars used the bug and now are useless

#

but yeah, enjoy the bug 😉

faint skiff
#

How did the self-sitting chairs work? What was the result?

true sky
#

just whip on finalik and when you sit on it, move the ik at root up a bit

#

and it will make you move forwards

inner cape
#

jetpack :0

true sky
#

its easily doable if you know how finalik works

#

vrchat just decided "fuck it" and removed it as everyone liked jetpacks on avatars

#

but the doubt is the world creators probably complaining about it

faint skiff
#

Not sure I even saw any avatars with stuff like that on them

true sky
#

i had 2 using it

#

and ik graelyth had his space kerbal using it

inner cape
#

people barely use final ik, its a bit complicated

shy trench
#

Anyone else having issues with the website and the game itself? I sent in my ticket already but I was curious if I was the only one having login problems. (I login and it reverts me back to said login 5 secs after having logged in then when I login once more it forces me to accept the new terms of service only to revert me back to the login screen once again)...As if my account isn't verified when I know it to be so as I've been on it for around 2yrs now and am a trusted user.

inner cape
#

same with animators

true sky
#

but yeah, any finalik use on chairs is broken currently in latest update

covert blade
#

@shy trench Login works fine on my end

inner cape
#

even the one that just turns it off?

shy trench
#

Hmm

inner cape
#

i had stations with a dance animation that turn your ik off

true sky
#

finalik on chairs using animation was used to disable head movements, which now, its completely broken

inner cape
true sky
#

portable mmd stages now RIP as well as some pole ones 😦

cold talon
#

What, final ik is easy wdym

true sky
#

its easy, just pretty broken with chairs to remove the local chair thing

cold talon
#

Ghosto I'll slap your cheeks, stop spreading misinformation slap

inner cape
#

i have no cheecks

#

it is easy for us, but not your average avatar porter

cold talon
#

But the whole self sitting on chairs wasn't limited to jetpacks, you could have entirely new locomotion

#

And not limited by the snail pace default running.

light pivot
#

There were some really cool applications of it, like people having little cars they could get in and drive around

cold talon
#

Cars were a pretty big thing, since you could have working ramps and all, it was a full on driveable rigid body

inner cape
#

sorry, no fun allowed

#

wait a minute, i just noticed that name

#

thats not allowed

vocal shard
cold talon
#

But hey, can't have those chairs because people would use them to cheat in murder rsmile

covert blade
#

Not that you can pretty much noclip around with a modified client and not get banned for weeks

cold talon
#

Heck, just use colliders

#

Oh no, what have I done.
They are gonna remove those too now

shy trench
covert blade
#

Huh. I could login just fine

#

Interesting

shy trench
#

Yea I've no clue

#

Something to do with my account and server side I'd imagine

covert blade
#

So weird that it lets you see the page for like 2 seconds before going back to login

shy trench
#

I know I hit the back button once and it said missing credential's as if my account wasn't verified which is my biggest concern really.

#

Hopefully my ticket will be read and a solution or fix will occur at the very least otherwise I wont be on for a hot min till it's resolved.

covert blade
#

You could try using a different browser

shy trench
#

Tried that

#

Still does it plus when logging into the game it shows 0.00% / (Blank)

#

Takes forever to ever get to showing im loading into a world because the load screens take forever.

true sky
#

@cold talon they tried and failed as it pissed enough people off

#

but not with the jetpack thing

#

cause 2019

light pivot
#

about the last thing I'd expect from a company with the financial constraints vrchat has is expensive prizes, i don't agree with the editorial at all

faint skiff
#

Yeah, same. If they had that much spare cash knocking around, they'd probably have more developers.

light pivot
#

they're using the cash they do have to hire more developers right now

#

if they were offering expensive prizes I'd think they were out of their minds

covert blade
#

Or they could just, not have a contest at all and keep the money

stoic haven
#

You mean a free to play game isn't giving out expensive prizes? That's unacceptable!

covert blade
#

I don't see the problem that content creators interested in the contest, who btw have already made several avatars for nothing in return, get a reward for once

light pivot
#

yeah and that's what they're doing -- just small rewards that aren't going to make any difference in operating budgets really

#

it's a nice community gesture

covert blade
#

Yup. And right now most of the content creators that make public content probably don't get anything in return at all

stoic haven
#

Well, you make content because you want to make content. No one is forcing you. It's a passion or hobby, like doing your avatar. I think the little prizes they have set up is a nice gesture. You don't have to participate in the competition if you don't want too, it's meant to be a bit of fun.

covert blade
#

Exactly.

vocal shard
#

I coded full body to work from 4 infrared cameras with added skeleton tracking. Talk about being bored when you own full body. It actually works really well so far.

#

Trying to create the best but cheapest full body. :/

stoic haven
#

I bet thats satisfying after getting it to work xD

covert blade
#

No 4 hour battery life either

stoic haven
#

Oh yeah, that's even better.

vocal shard
#

Plus it works through thin walls / meshs.

#

Meaning clothing over trackers doesn't do anything now.

stoic haven
#

Is it like the Kinect setup people do?

vocal shard
#

Also works in pitch black. :/

#

Alike, but much better.

stoic haven
#

Now I'm curious.

covert blade
#

With kinect you would only track from one direction

vocal shard
#

This has 360 degrees.

#

But could work from one camera for 360 degrees.

#

Thanks to infrared.

slow halo
#

Wow

vocal shard
#

Can't over-disclose until I sign an NDA.

stoic haven
#

I wouldn't even know how to start with that kind of setup so consider me impressed.

slow halo
#

Well done

stoic haven
#

And maybe a bit jealous.

vocal shard
#

I have my own software that is one click to setup.

#

Plug usb infrared cam in, start my software.

#

Over 9 algorithms.

stoic haven
#

How long did it take you just to create the software alone?

vocal shard
#

Although, can be CPU intensive and GPU intensive depending on settings.

#

Only a few days.

#

HTC slow af.

#

Irony is I used C# instead of C++

stoic haven
#

You are going into things, I sadly, have little knowledge about but I am all starry eyed and impressed. 😄

vocal shard
#

I do have a full time job that collides with this, but I want to do my best.

faint skiff
#

algorithms

#

Is it still a super expensive camera, or something else?

vocal shard
#

Less than £40

stoic haven
#

Wow, that is nothing.

broken plover
#

I payed 40€ for a modified kinect

vocal shard
#

I want to try to find cheaper options for people, but if this is the cheapest, then meh.

stoic haven
#

£40 is far cheaper than the hundreds of pounds I paid for a HTC Vive Tracker. 😄

vocal shard
#

This is only the skeleton part of the tracking merging, and is the max I can show without signing an NDA. As you can see by the hips, it is tracking front of pelvis and back. https://imgur.com/a/TpjNfx4

rough pulsar
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I imagine there's still a significant latency difference between a CV-based tracking system compared to something like vive trackers.

vocal shard
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Nope.

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Less than kinect actually.

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0.028s.

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Around-so.

rough pulsar
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Even including processing time?

vocal shard
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Yes.

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C# can be made very efficient.

faint skiff
light pivot
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ah yeah, I spent a fair amount of time using it

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it was a ton of fun

rough pulsar
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Still more latency than lighthouse but a lot better than Kinect. I imagine with some degree of motion prediction that apparent latency can go down even more.

vocal shard
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I've barely optimised it yet as I'm focusing more on cutting out false positives.

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Such as a second person or dog.

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Or heater/radiator/light

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What I've been looking into is an version of this for mounting to head or shoulders with a camera spanning each side for balance tracking full body. It can be made very light.

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Combine that with mixed reality and you have portable full body on laptops.

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Welcome to when a rare drinker touches alcohol with a brain.

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So far I've made 4 prototypes of that, only one never failed which I am working on currently.

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The real question is if I charge for my software or not when I already have a full time high pay job. :/

faint skiff
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Just charge a small amount, enough to get a little income from it, but not enough for people to worry about buying it due to cost.

vocal shard
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So d4vr but not coded by someone without eyes, gotteet.

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...how to joke about d4vr in the software without risk of lawsuiting.. hmm

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Also still need a name instead of HeatTrackingTestPepega.

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I'm also going to code a kinect full body tracking tool but that actually takes advantage of the hardware in the kinect 2.

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...my vrchat still is stuck on 860*..

slow halo
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Damn dude

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That all sounds amazing

sour lily
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i kinda want to play vrc but idk what i would do if i do

desert stratus
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just play it lol

faint skiff
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Walk around, talk to people, find interesting things going on. Make an interesting avatar and parade it around, etc.

vocal shard
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Do some weeby shii.

slim temple
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@sour lily go to loli lord's game show?

vocal shard
#

Stare into a mirror for hours on end

slim temple
#

that starts in 4 hours. Check "events". Always something to do. Try to beat last year's holloween worlds?

vocal shard
#

I have vrchat spread over 4 monitors when in vr.. talk about to kill a gpu.

vocal shard
#

hi everyone

severe loom
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sucks thaht you can lose yorue trusted rank by unfriending people 😛

dusk tinsel
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@vrchatdevs

vestal pier
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helpful

faint skiff
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Should have used the one from the Canny that has Pill's head on it

dusk tinsel
#

LOL youre right

vestal pier
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Is this in response to the station stuff

faint skiff
dusk tinsel
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This is to them for removing a feature that people found fun, and they have no good reason why it was removed other than "FlYiNg"

vestal pier
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The reason is its not intentional

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If they leave it in for long enough, ripping the bandaid off at a later date could be troublesome, and leave alot of content broken.

dusk tinsel
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Press x to doubt

vestal pier
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Which part do you doubt? Its also not a feature.

dusk tinsel
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A component in unity that was allowed to be used for sitting was a component they made, a feature

snow valve
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ugh

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guys

dusk tinsel
#

The original unity chair was removed and replace by vrc chairs

snow valve
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i want vc

vestal pier
#

Sitting on your own chair was not a feature ;-)

dusk tinsel
#

It sure is bud

vestal pier
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You're objectively incorrect!

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Theres no wiggle room here, haha.

faint skiff
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Picking up a chair you're sat on though, good god, I almost threw up.

dusk tinsel
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And someone found out a system to produce a mechanic of flying and they remove it because it somehow is "exploiting" but if it was a unity chair, removed, replaced by vrc chair, a chair for vrc, then clearly its a feature added, you can sit and say its not but obviously it is, open your eyes from the erp world

vestal pier
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Haha, alright my guy 😆

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If you are going to talk about a subject, know what you're talking about to avoid looking the way you do.

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Im sad its gone too, but atleast I can grasp the concept.

umbral reef
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@dusk tinsel Because it was not supported and rather strike it down now (cant defend them breaking other things with it lul) then wait, have people think its an intented thing and then get shit for breaking it in a update even though it was never supported

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And no, its not inteded because else id be documented and not have to be found by doing some janky shit

dusk tinsel
#

Why are you talking mr what like 60k plus msgs now? You live here your words dont matter

umbral reef
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I get payed to chat in here LUL
I get payed to waste my time waiting untill buttons on a bashboard go red

vestal pier
#

If someone lives here then they know what they're talking about, eh?

dusk tinsel
#

Not really, this guys knowledge of anything common, same as yours is rather lack luster

vestal pier
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Sorry you feel that way 🙂

dusk tinsel
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Lol youre mad

vestal pier
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Super!

umbral reef
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Guess lacklusting knowledge means we can be part of a Top 100 Startup :thonk:

snow valve
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iwantvc

umbral reef
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Then join the game and talk there

vestal pier
#

Not allowed to be passionate about a community, Oclac. Its simply not allowed 😉

snow valve
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N A H

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H A H

dusk tinsel
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Yeah paid to talk in a discord, now thats how you know the games garbage lol

umbral reef
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@vestal pier Well tbh im this active in more then a few communities by now as how else can i waste work time

snow valve
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..

faint skiff
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I don't think he means paid by VRC, lol

umbral reef
#

@dusk tinsel You realize im not a worker of this game right?

dusk tinsel
#

Have fun strokin the devs friends :)

vestal pier
#

We got the sour grapes argument out of em, i guess that means we win?

umbral reef
#

You legit think that and call us lackluster in knowledge?

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And if you cant make out of those 60K msgs that i have had more then my fair share of beef with the devs i lose all hope for you

snow valve
#

aAaAAaAAAAAaaaaa

vocal shard
#

hi everyone

low furnace
#

I’m supprised no one has made a john wick or hotline Miami video on vrchat

rigid crescent
#

What does a john wick or hotline Miami video even mean

low furnace
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I mean the style as one

rigid crescent
#

What? Like just shooting stuff?

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Not many people make cinematic vids in vrc, it's hard.

low furnace
#

I wish there was better ways to make videos in vrc

faint skiff
#

Requires a lot of space in FBT and network IK would make all the avatars other than the recorder look janky.

rigid crescent
#

There are, just record a video. The other parts are whats hard

umbral reef
#

Id love to see a way to stablize the camera while moving really
Like hand held stabalizer

low furnace
#

Are there mod support in vrchat?

rigid crescent
#

Nope

low furnace
#

huh it be pretty cool to have mods

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I know you can put custom maps/models/etc. but more like addons to vrchat it self

vocal shard
#

hi everyone

dapper tendon
#

when blender crashes on you

neat mauve
#

Sup

steady kayak
#

is bhaptic supported in vrchat? someone told me yes but i never heard of that

torn nebula
#

@steady kayak in a hacky way, yes

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I don't have the details but it involves an avatar camera painting some data to the desktop window which is read off by an external application

steady kayak
#

So it is the truth

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someone claimed to me a custom client (i know its frowned upon)

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still secretly hoping vrchat to open up a little to third party developers in certain aspects of vrchat with a pre screening process.. maybe against a fee to fish out people that are really serious (and to fund that departement)

faint skiff
#

@slow halo So, how is it? (or are you in game?)

torn nebula
#

@steady kayak well having an external app read a screen capture isn't modifying the client itself so it should be fine

slow halo
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Uhh

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So it was working great. Then I took the headset off to look at my phone. Now it won't go back on...

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hmm. It won't wake up

faint skiff
#

Call my name and save me from the dark

slow halo
#

gawrsh

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Let's see if a reboot will fix it

faint skiff
#

Has the HDMI cable come slightly loose?

slow halo
#

Yikes

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When I rebooted it didn't like my headset being plugged in. Had to unplug the HDMI before it gave me my screens back

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Do you keep yours plugged in all the time or only as needed?

lunar cedar
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@vocal shard what pose estimator are you going to use?

faint skiff
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I keep mine plugged in but it's set to Direct Mode in Steam which means it does't show up as a display, only a VR device.

vocal shard
#

@lunar cedar I will not disclose things like that without an NDA at this point.

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As I still need to file my patent and form it.

lunar cedar
#

Okay what style of pose estimator?

vocal shard
#

Multi-algorithmical. I'm not only using one.

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I like redundancy.

lunar cedar
#

Okay, what styles of pose estimator?

vocal shard
#

NDA.

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I'd rather not have inventions of any type copied, thx.

cold talon
#

Ok, how do I sign an nda with you?

vocal shard
#

Private contacting for once.

umbral reef
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What are you even making 👀

lunar cedar
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Lmao. You can't copy someone's algorithms by knowing they used a DNN or a random forest tree.

vocal shard
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Then I'll form the agreement under online form.

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I've disclosed enough earlier that is risky enough.

covert blade
#

I think he's going to play it safe here

vocal shard
#

^

cold talon
#

shrek you think

vocal shard
#

Now leave me to my coding. Still need to get it better with false positives.

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I've decided it will be freeware in the end result.

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Only HW would be paid.

honest sun
#

hey guys,whats up

vocal shard
#

Outy~

cold talon
#

Just, use an anti false positive algorithm

vocal shard
#

If only it was as simple as just poof

cold talon
#

"It's only as simple as you want it to be"
-said someone who has no lige experiance

vocal shard
#

It's only as simple as is functional.

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Anywho, imma head out.

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I get way too addicted to yapping.

indigo bramble
#

Hi

covert blade
#

Greetings

indigo bramble
#

whatsup

cold talon
#

If its not multi user it shouldn't be so hard to filter random false positive spots, even better if you got multiple cameras, anyway gl krew

covert blade
#

It probs isn't as easy as it sounds though

indigo bramble
covert blade
#

🤔

cold talon
#

Depends on what level he wants to filter the data/what type of data he is working with, considering he was talking about ir cameras he is probably working with blobs

covert blade
#

You say that like I know what that even means D:

cold talon
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But can't say more, since I signed an nda

lunar cedar
#

Why not just use an adversarial nn if you're doing something "multi-algorithmical". My gods is that dumbest term I've ever heard.

covert blade
#

I mean I could probably with minimal success sign an NDA with him too and be just confused by everything

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I'm too simple minded for that stuff

lunar cedar
#

Literally every piece of software is "multi-algorithmical" if you weren't aware

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Well except code snippets that model exactly one thing, but that's not software

tidal aspen
#

you gotta use technobabble so you look smart 🙂

sullen escarp
#

polyalgorithmic

cold talon
#

Wdym, using a recursive neuronal network multi algorithmical deep learning multi layered reinforcement noder graph is the new hot thing @tidal aspen

covert blade
#

[ERROR]

cold talon
#

Admit defeat yall

lunar cedar
#

Throw an adversial recurrent convolution in there and you've got a Nobel winner

cold talon
#

Holy, this guy knows what's up

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Nice ping

tulip geyser
#

@onyx pond

steady kayak
#

@faint skiff what is the nda regarding topic wise?

lunar cedar
#

Sorry that under NDA

faint skiff
#

Que?

tidal aspen
#

yeah bro it uses machine learning algorithms

linear regression

cold talon
#

I would tell, but I signed an nda too

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Wait, why did you ping enverex, he wasn't even in the discussion LUL

pulsar oracle
#

Anyone able to help me with something VRChat can't fix?

umbral reef
#

Well its hard to solve a problem if you dont tell us what it is

covert blade
#

Depends

lunar cedar
pulsar oracle
#

I just reset my password and VRChat decides not to let me in.

#

I already tried.

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No one relpied.

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it's been like a month.

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Or so.

umbral reef
#

use your email and new password to log in

pulsar oracle
#

That's what I did.

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I'm not that stupid.

molten gale
#

Oh fuck the kinect is big

pulsar oracle
#

?

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I'm confused.

#

May I start a call with you real fast?

umbral reef
#

Ignore what i wrote, read what ya wrote wrong as im sleep deprived as shit

lunar cedar
#

Not all Kinects are made equal paci

pulsar oracle
#

Alrighty.

umbral reef
#

Tried using your old password and tried resetting it again?

pulsar oracle
#

Like reset my whole computer?

umbral reef
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No the password

pulsar oracle
#

I already reset it.

vast tulip
#

Try to reset it again

pulsar oracle
#

I can't it won't let me anymore.

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I've tried many times.

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VRChat in now broke.

#

Now I can't play anymore due to some bug.

molten gale
#

Have you considered checking if you didnt mess up yourself?

pulsar oracle
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Yup.

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I double check everything.

molten gale
#

Maybe a typo in the password or a wrong mail

pulsar oracle
#

Nope.

molten gale
#

Or just try another browser

pseudo basalt
#

Wrong language selected?

pulsar oracle
#

No.

pseudo basalt
#

I struggled for quite a while once when I had that

pulsar oracle
#

English 2/47

#

Mind if I call one of you?

pseudo basalt
#

Rather not right now

pulsar oracle
#

Alrighty.

gaunt shale
#

I usually saw that issue happen if someone's trying to login with their username and not their email but you say you're logging in with your email. So I'm not entirely sure what's going on. hmm...

slow halo
#

Weird

#

looks like a known issue with the current Windows 10 release where if you turn off the WMR portal software (SteamVR version or normal), you have to either reboot or sign out/sign in for it to work again

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and if you reboot, it takes a bit longer for your PC to recognize your real monitors

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very weird

lunar cedar
#

Or just unplug and replug your hmd

vocal shard
#

Time to relax now. And as for @slow halo uninstall the update which caused it; simple.

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I use WMR and don't have that issue (Have index too)

slow halo
#

yeah? Hmm

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@lunar cedar I tried that. Didn't work

vocal shard
#

I am on 1903 still, though.

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Oh and finally my steam sees a vrc update pmsl.

slow halo
#

windows 10 version 1903?

vocal shard
#

Yes.

slow halo
#

... Apparently I'm on 1809. The heck

lunar cedar
#

I use the Odyssey+ and haven't seen that on 1903 or 20h1

vocal shard
#

I never restart my PC really due to way too much projects open.

umbral reef
#

Your the reason windows forces people to update 'without a warning'

slow halo
#

that hurts

vocal shard
slow halo
#

I usually check my updates. 1809 is less than 15 days old, give me a break

vocal shard
#

For me to lose data? Nah.

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1909 is already reported to break shii.

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I was an insider, so probs why.

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And the news on 1909 is likely insider build.

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I opted out of insider not long ago.

slow halo
#

I see what happened

vocal shard
#

My VRC only just updated.

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It's only build 862 now.

slow halo
#

Weird. I always check my updates and yet somehow missed the giant button offering 1903

vocal shard
#

Steam is bullying me.

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VR meming time.

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Btw, for common steamvr crashing with WMR, don't change any global settings for AMD GPU's.

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And if so, reset them at least for vrc.

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Caused constant crashing for me.

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For me, it was crashing steamvr constantly in general.

slow halo
#

I'm honestly just trying to come to terms with this nauseous feeling I feel

vocal shard
#

Hmm?

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You okay mate?

slow halo
#

I was totally fine until I started moving my avatar around

vocal shard
#

Low FPS?

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Or general?

slow halo
#

Nope. Disconnect between motion on screen and me not actually moving

vocal shard
#

Hmm. :/