#vrchat-general-2
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Ofcourse it is, main difference is you can't move your arms
is full body tracking worth it or is arms good enough?
This is question you need to answer for yourself
hi
When I was considering buying a headset I first had to think do I ever gonna need fbt. I knew I didn't want to dance or wear female avatars and spread my legs before strangers so I thought I don't need it. Only thing I wanted to do in game that requires fbt was to look behind me in the mirror so I could see back of my avatar but going to mmd dance world did the trick
There may be some things you would like to do yourself that require full body tracking which is why I said you need to answer this yourself
Other things this could be used for is excercises where tracking entire body is needed or playing on a stage / role playing where you could use your legs to kick for example
If you are not sure whether you would like to have fbt set you can buy Vive or Index and upgrade later if needed
someone should make a dead by daylight spirit avatar with custom animations because i dont know how and am to lazy to figure out how
Anyone wanna play? dm me
I've seen him around a lot
Hi Mrseek
I saw Aev at the Meetup 
erhm hello?
Hi
Hey everyone
Just letting you know that I Do fullbody tracking with nolo and also using a 3rd oculus controller as a waist
so I have better waist control
People who have used the nolo previously have had said that the nolo is trash but I'm here to show you if u set it up correctly you can get ur tracking to be very Good
I'm also doing this so people with either using a headset not from valve or whatever can still do fullbody but without vive stuff
you can go for a cheaper option called the nolo for fullbody Enjoy :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tGYxrNfCgU&feature=youtu.be
imagine strapping a 3rd oculus controller to your waist
cant imagine that sry
VRchat is Broken!!!!
tell me something thats new
should i get rift s or quest
Depends, do u have a good enough PC that can handle quest ? @sudden sable
well i mean it can handle both
Well quest is a stand alone
U don’t need a PC for it
But if ur PC can handle VR, then get the rift S
what about the link tho
What link?
If you want a better PCVR experience, the rift S.
The quest can do PCVR now, but it still isn't quite as good. It's great as like an all around headset. But for a better PCVR experience, the S still wins
@hollow breach oculus just announced oculus link to make quest PC capable now
Oh I did not know dat
It's not a direct feed though like other PCVR. It encodes and streams the video over a USB, so the video is compressed and not quite as good as the Rift S which is running directly from your GPU. It works really well, but reviews say it's still a bit behind the S experience
@sudden sable I mean if u travel a lot or go out a lot and would like to bring ur games with u, I guess go with quest. But if not just go with the S
It’s just the better choice
Right now there's huge hype for the Quest because of it, and many are saying "the S is dead". But the hype will pass and people will listen to reviewers more who are all saying, it's excellent, even better than the CV1 rift at some things. But still not quite as good as the S if you want a better pure PCVR
yeah
i just hope it gets handtracking
speaking of which is that going to come to vr chat?
I doubt it, if it's limited to the quest. The reason the quest can have hand tracking is because of the onboard CPU. From what I understand, the cable for the Rift S doesn't have enough bandwidth to send all the tracking data, video, power and have hand tracking on top of that. Where as the quest snapdragon has something onboard that works really well at computing that
Helllooo
omg look at the users its over 10k
Hiii
hello
hm?
You
what about me? what is amino?
Well it is an app wich is really cool and my name is nagito
no i'm not sure what this amino is
It's like an app for fanbases
Welll so it is like discord ya
never heard of it sorry, i live under a rock
Ha no but you have the same user name as she did
what who
Well (Queeen) fooni
hm....sounds like an imposter, but i'd like it if you dm me a picture, curious.
Kk
👀
hi jamie! how are you
definitely!
for some reason theres over 10k users tonight, wonder how did that happened
oooo probably
I know a lot of VRC streamers met up today
one of my friend streamer actually met one too
Cool
Anyone know of any rooms where new people go to make friends? I'm always the odd man out when I try to strike up convos.
The bar-like worlds are pretty much meant for that. Just gauge whether people have similar interests before trying to join in. Nothing is more difficult than talking with people that have nothing in common.
I met a lot of ppl :3
You on rn? 10k people is over 50% more people than the usual that I've seen online
Maybe there are finally more than 4 publics of worlds?
i think vrchat is broken
world won't download for me
oops there we go, but a delay is weird
hi
Regarding active users, what happened in July that I missed? ^ ^;
https://gyazo.com/a06e5ab10a57860d601e3a208af20cfb
Peak Players > 28,596
Some kind of glitch or was I in a brief coma?
Steam broke. All vr games got numbers like that.
can any1 help me with my Oculus rift S. its not connecting to my PC. and the light that's supposed to come up when I plug in the USB isn't lighting up
Well, technically 8k less, and only for one month, but yeah, Knuckles brought lots of tourists as we all know.
It was a steam bug that wasn't counting people as logging out only logging in, if I remember correctly
Fair enough. Just couldn't help but double take when I saw it.
Any1 here got an Oculus rift s?
Hey Falcon have you tried looking up guides on Youtube, those are honestly super useful
Ive seen around 5-7 different videos and the one oculus has and i sat for around 7 hrs yesterday trying to get my headsets cables to connect
Ive followed all the guides to and nothing has worked. Im starting to think my Headset might be broken. Cus my USB connected yesterday but not anymore
is there anything againest using alternate accounts as long as its not to bypass a ban?
alright
i just didn't really know the rules for that and ill be frank; i don't know where the rules are located
im a such horrible player :p
i use common sense with most things really... rules are too boring but knowing the boundaries of society is a start
For ingame, it is as easy as dont mod the game, no nsfw in public (or shared from private) and dont be a dick
I think 99.9% of people learn the rules from the loading screens.
there's a loading screen? :p
i always tab out during loading
i mean its also way easier for me to look at my model's fucked up hand with a second user instead in a mirror so
i still need to figure out what to do with these avatars to get their hands to look okay..
it might be more so a problem with vrchat not liking chunky hands..
What do you need to be able to upload avatars
I just linked my steam account, with some friends and 10 hours playtime. Think that's enough?
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
No I mean permissoon wise

You just need to not be a Visitor, e.g. New User or higher.
Nah, took me like 2 days, if that (if I remember correctly)
20-40 hours isnt really long
I dont get much play time
hm- would it be affected if you have a vrchat account linked to your steam account and use your steam account to login instead of your vrchat account
No. Makes no difference
As long as they're linked, they're the same account.
In fact, Trusted Steam accounts are a thing too
No-one wants random bits after their name though, looks messy
Some are too lazy to link because they dont realize you can still login through steam
Rofl, linked my acct, got disappointed, closed unity and launched vrchat, got notified I can now upload avatars
mine took like
i don't remember; i linked my account ages ago, never played, played for a day, and got it
Excited to see if my new avatar works
the only bad thing i did recently is forget i was wearing one avatar i was working on earlier publically
its ranked very poor since of it having 17 skinned meshes :p
gg
and the fbx version is way too low to open in blender
its at like, 2600
excuse me i meant 6200
Uploading my first avatar whee
All I did was add an equitable pistol to the possum lady but it's a good start
thats fine
i mean my first project is to fix the hand of a model mainly imported
and idk what's wrong- and frankly, since the model is a year old....i might need to just, start over and rig the model myself
i've done so for tower unite since no one else would... only thing i fucked up is pointing one of the jiggle bones to the wrong bone and i can't be assed to fix it..
Hehehe jiggle bones
They like that jiggle
but they don
't like making female characters
think that valve might be a little, homosexual :p
fair there is like
a few female characters but like
how many male characters are there
plus im not shaming valve for it; i actually kinda like it to be honest.
both hl2 and left 4 dead 1/2 had important strong done right female characters
none of this forced unoriginal roles
ya
Games typically try and appeal to their core demographic which is (mostly) guys.
personally alyx is not my favorite but i can respect valve for adding her
There was something I played recently though that felt weird because it seemed like they'd made almost all the characters female in roles where that normally doesn't happen... I can't remember what it was though...
im also a female and so like any love for guys makes me happy :^)
Was it The Division 2? I think at the White House, almost all the soldiers and such are women.
Which ends up being a bit shitty in the media involved itself.
Turns out forcing character types ends up a bit crap.
ja..
i agree,feels obvious when a character is forced
i don't mind women but sometimes i feel weird with them; like such as r6s but idk why
but i could ramble all day on how i like my videogames :p
i once made an arguement because i said csgo was slightly dark and gloomy to me and it somehow became a debate about how valve shouldn't be following the majority and how its making csgo really dull and empty
note to self: don't talk about things like that in a modding server
and then the fun with moddable games is you can rework them to how you like.
And that's how you get filters on the sites to filter out the endless tide of very well endowed female mods.
ja; wish more companies that made mp games would support modding as long as its not toxic to others
I dislike R6 for other reasons, mainly that it was my favourite tactical series back in the day (Eagle Watch, Rogue Spear, Raven Shield, etc) but now it's just some crappy hero shooter.
I wonder 🤔 Does VRChat count as a moddable game application? Custom content is a massive factor, but there isn't really a base mechanic/structure that's worked on top of.
No, as the content is loaded in a specific fashion and can only be edited in a certain way. That said, I think malicious users have proved it is moddable in that fashion too, lol
Haha, yeah. Not the one I was talking about though.
Err window update pop up ?
I think modding typically has the stipulation that you're making something work in a way that it was never designed to.
tfw got told off because of me talking
any1 else having issues with the cables on the rift S not connecting like at all
I still have a regular rift so I wouldn't know, lol
Watch it Hystero, last time I did that someone got triggered over me "spewing" that stuff when he thinks no one cares
In multiple channels
That's spamming, translation : Stop spamming.
Would anybody recommend index even if I dont have access to be able to do full body tracking?
I dont have the space for it
FBT is a premium luxury option.
Completely up to you but what really counts is VR itself.
Also hai paulie ❤
Hello 
Index is definitely worth it, FBT or not. I'd honestly say FBT isn't worth it for 99% of people unless you A) really want to be able to lay down in VR or B) you just have an abundance of money.
Im not sure why you say "unless you really want to be able to lay down"
in generally to be able to move and interact with your feet.
Because the majority of FBT users in public are lay down, lol.
I mean, fair enogh, but that's not really what you should even consider FBT for
Although many do it when they have it, that shouldn't be the actual reason they buy it 
Obviously, but given that the majority of times I've seen it used, it was either for laying down or lapdances, I'm assuming that's eventually what happens to everyone that uses it 😛
He does speak the truth, paulie. I think Gallium is one of the only folks I know that actually uses FBT to express themselves while socializing.
Oh hey who did I meet in the cat yesterday? Enverex was there, triping...
voice chat where?
I think there was a... カリ... Something
nowhere
Anyone know of a world with giant avatars? I need one for a world's puzzle
@slow halo Me, Tiping and s0lar
I lay down for the first time in FBT yesterday while in the Black Cat to test the armature, I felt dirty.
You disgust me
But the fact you have a deployable "censored" box is excellent so that redeems you
Time to go from solid state to incomprehensible state!
Enemy of the State Fuzzout
I mean yes but no
I’m pretty much public enemy number 1 according to my tastes and what the media says, lol.
Juul, coffee, below age of 20, student under loans, professional procrastinator and actually healthy physical state?
More like furry weeb who loves video games, lol.
Is there a controller map for the knuckles?
Hmm. I must be the minority. I find fbt totally worth the $300 I spent on it. I also don't lay down ever.
There are 9421 users in VRChat currently
There are 9484 users in VRChat currently
i saw on twitter
the twitchcon meetup over 1k people. Made me realize how many people arei n vrchat
Ah, right
After I picked up a skin in an avatar world, all the mirrors show me as a mess of blue shapes, is this normal?
!online
There are 9371 users in VRChat currently
that's the "loading" avatar @vocal shard. It usually clears once the avatar loads
Um . . . . is anyone else having an issue with Steam?
hey
I didnt have any problems with steam/steamvr
Yeah looks like Steam is having some major issues https://steamstat.us
The entire platform failing at once is really concerning
Something in your mind regarding that?
I have a hunch but I'm not calling it yet.
I didnt even notice discord went down. I was playing MC at that time and everyone in the chat started talking about discord coming back online lol
Yeah it went down while I was watching my modeler work on my commission on screen share.
things seem to get going
It's an amazing way to learn blender.
Steam is now back up
For some reason i can't save my avatars, any explanation?
Like i get an avatar but i can't favourite/unfavourite them
What happens when you try?
Nothing happens
It says i unfavourited it but it doesn't actually unfavourite
Save other way round
Are you maxed at 16?
Like everyone, yes
@polar fern It's been my experience that the favorites list often won't update until you select (but not necessarily change into) a different avatar.
With the announcement for hand tracking on quest is there any plans to use that in vrchat does anyone know? 😅 I haven’t been keeping up with news for the game
sir
Well they said 2020. But lots of questions. How will you move around? How much latency does it have? What happens when you move your hands outside of the camera range?
Hand tracking lacks the ability to move, so I wouldn't expect it to be implemented. It's why the Leap Motion is useless in VRChat despite basically perfect hand tracking
I was excited for leap motion on Vive then nothing happened and and I see why.
We need vr gloves.
Also I read the Quest saw the hand tracking just outside the field of view. So it wouldn't work very well for your hands say by your hips which is where mine end up a lot unless I'm doing something like talking or dancing.
If youre fullbody VR and RP ... is it still roleplay or does it become larp? 😂
Nah, it's varping
I was going to say vraping but that sounds like something completely different
oh god
That escalated quickly lol
How do you upgrade your rank
by playing
Like it depends on hours?
@static bear it's not 100% time based so AFK does not equal free ranks. whether you just want an avatar uploaded or want to get to trusted user, everyone ranks up the same way: playing the game. friending people, visiting different worlds, actually spending time in some places here and there as well as talking to people...nobody except for the person who made the ranking system actually knows how it works, and it's an intentionally guarded secret that seems to reward actually playing the game and, ykno, socializing.
@static bear Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet 
Ranks are useless
hello
its worth mentioning that uploading content may also factor into ranking
i really dont have a whole lot of people on my friends list compared to others (maybe 200-300) but i have one world and like 80 or 100 avatars uploaded. forgot the exact numbers
It does say so in the loading screen
who?
Probs s0lar but 🤷
remember kids, upload 3 worlds and get trusted instantly /s
no not really
Toggle ranks when
not rlly either
I dont want to go though 5 ranks if I change custom safety settings
im incredibly apathetic to them so i dont bother to use my green disguise
petition to delete the rank system and replace the avatar menu with spy's disguise kit
Lol
how can I check my rank
open menu and look at the border around ur name
Honestly remove the ranks
I just need User and Friend
And upload permissions can be tracked without displaying it
Visitor is still very useful. More than 80% are normally just aids.
ehhhhh
Enverex, if I setup my custom safety, I use the same settings for all ranks
I dont believe that anyone should have a more stuff displayed just cuz they play longer. Trusted and Known are the definition of useless, Visitor and New User eeeeeh
Being in an instance exclusively populated by Trusted users can be outright intimidating if you're two ranks below them
I've never got the intimidation thing to be honest.
Says the puple person
Well I obviously wasn't always purple...
You're probably also not as afraid of others like me
The ranks dont help one bit. It makes me think of puple people as being too good for me and vistors as the casual idiot
Just use it as a gauge for how long someone's been playing, that's all it's really for.
At least when in an instance almost exclusively populated by either of these two
it really is just a simple gauge for how long someone has been playing, i can get being nervous about that sort of thhing tho
I'm still a visitor, but I kinda put myself out there and try to meet people. The whole reason I got into VR chat was because I'm socially awkward and anxious. VR chat helps me combat that.
@covert blade Weren't you the one saying "Does anyone actually care about ranks here?". You do actually care it seems while in fact it only matters whether you are visitor without ability to upload stuff or with rank higher
i make it a point to literally say hi and to reach out to anyone in a lobby whenever i can or want to cuz this weird stigma thing shouldnt rlly exist, i just want to talk to everyone ^ ^`
@covert blade I'll be your friend bro! We can just walk around and I'll introduce us to random strangers.
I wish I could turn rank colors off tbh. I don't really care about them but I do find myself being friendlier with lower ranks for some reason since I sometimes assume purples are stuck up or something
it's always wholesome cuz after a greeting and me saying some dumb shit people open up and it's glorious
I mean if you're orange or purple, you can impersonate a green.
@errant hare I dont care in the sense of ranking up. I also dont care that it exists and wouldnt mind if it were to be removed. But in a certain way it can still affect what you think of someone
You can counter rank system by friending everybody you meet, than everyone will be yellow :>
Like hating on the rich kids back in school and assuming they're stuck-up just because they're rich.
friending everyone in vrchat (livestream)
Ew friending everyone is a bad idea
It is a terrible idea in fact
I'm not afraid to pull a trigger on a mute button
So yeah, gonna stick with the opinion that ranks are useless
In fact, why does a VR social game even have "ranks"? Like, what's this, the military?
I mean, it's been explained why they exist..
I don't know but I like the fact I can keep the visitors at bay
I keep everyone at bay
so just avatar and voice on for everyone>?
And Shader
It's for the ability to customize safety settings per rank and to know how trustworthy someone is at a glance. But it failed to really do that and my settings are identical for all ranks
@errant hare what do you mean at bay? Is it because a lot of them are toxic? I've kinda ran into that.
Quick question, is there anyway you can get more than 16 favorite slots
Except friends cuz you generally think they're nice because you actually know a thing about them
Shaders and animations off for everyone unless you seem chill sorry
@drifting plover I find them more often to be like those loud guys in the room, not neccessarly toxic but talking nonsense / screaming or using cancerous avatars
I reported 5 hackers
@pure hemlock Thing is a lot of avatars seem to break entirely with shaders off and some are even more annoying like that
Fair enough. Just give nice guys like me a chance lol I'm still super new.
Dunno about performance though
I'd rather see a broken avatar than get a migraine from crazy light or screen shader effects
@drifting plover I still have avatars and voice on for visitors, its not like I'm not giving them a chance
How many avatars have crazy light or screen shader in their idle animation?
I have no clue but I ain't risking finding out
@covert blade I've seen a lot of the ones that are like giant robots and all that just crash an instance entirely.
Exactly because they dont
I block everyone's avatar till I find the shaders
And then unblock everyone else's
99.9% of all avatars trigger crazy stuff via custom animations
Mine dont I hate crashers back in 2018 crashers 24/7
A lot of shaders just hurt my eyes in general tbh
Hmmm
Ones that have the flashy color clothes are bad
Now you have edgy wannabe custom anims
Ones that have emissions cranked to max
Then again I play with safety off a lot of the time
This is terrible, something just happened with one of my close buddies that has been with me for hours today.. Both me and the person I'm on about are streaming, with video evidence of this happening.
Until someone decides to be a douch and imma have to turn it back on :I
@crimson bridge hm?
Soo wat happened?
My friend was demoted down to nuisance, when we've literally been doing nothing, except a bomb mini game with each other and 4 other friends.
Nobody was in here got annoyed by him in any way, shape or form. An outside source seems to have target him badly.
Tell your friend to check the blocklist on the API
How did that happen though? That's usually reserved for the super toxic avatars and such.
They don't know how to do that.
Google it, go there, follow instructions on the website
So it's hard to understand this chat
@fervent falcon Nuisance =
icon and muted by default
Happens if you get mass blocked for example
O
ooofies
I let my brother play he is gonna get me in Nuisance
Just let him use a different acc then
This generally doesn't make sense, it happened in a span of minutes. As if it were organized but for the wrong person.
so i changed my vrchat username, and i went from new user to visitor
is it supposed to reset your trust level?
...
no, sounds weird
Hmmmm
guess it was just a visual bug or something
@crimson bridge do you guys have any enemies?
Not that anyone of us know.
That's peculiar. Maybe it was a mistake of some kind.
The only person I think an enemy would be, would be someone I solely know, so how they'd attack my best buddy is unorthodox.
If that's the case, it'd happen to both of us, not just him.
what happen
Thats a petty thing to do as well, but not unheard of. I stream Hunt Showdown and someone made an account one digit off from mine and kinda gave me a bad name for a bit.
That escalated quickly lol
Someone hit their Saw's best friend with a nuisance for no reason.
its what i would do to the other sans
Finished streaming, I have the vod saved for the moment it first happened.
Would it be considered reasonable to try and flag down a moderator on VRChat to come and shift a blackout drunk friend to a private world so they're not disturbed by people?
<@&397642795457970181>
that role only goes to us discord moderators
we have nothing to do with ingame moderation
oof
I'm aware, but I figure the only other means is a ticket to VRC team which isn't really going to sort out the issue tonight
I'm just looking for advice
He's blacked out. I tried yelling at loudly as I could, but it's also 3.35am here and I have neighbours
oof
idk if i shoul ping all of them
mabye on vrchat team at a time till some1 can help
@rose timber
🤡
@haughty moon Best not to ping the team, you can direct message them if you desperately need too, And I'd suggest DMing one of the Community Managers, like Tupper, Aev or VRPill. Some people on the team aren't necessarily "mods" 
Another thing, Is to just see if the instance they are in dies somehow, or they are kicked from the instance. Kicking them will be your best bet 
The instance had quieted down, we're just concerned with leaving him there in a public instance. Maybe I can get a couple of the group on to make a majority kick vote on him and get him out of there. Would a kick put him in a private world?
Yep
Kicking should return them to their homeworld
I'll see if we can sort that out first then

does anyone knwo where to get the fat mickey skin?
If me and a friend enters a VRChat world while using flat lit toon, we will be using two different flat lit toons. What will the name of those two shaders be in the scene?
I want to try and force me and a friend to use the same shader settings
What
were u answering him or me
No, I'm trying to make shaders which can talk to eachother
I can see that there's something called global keywords, but they probably require scripting access
wdym
Have fun, I feel like that is by nearly impossible
Incredibly hard and basically pointless.
There's "pairing ring"s on booth, those are impossible in theory as well

Whats a Pairing Ring?
shhh
this is smart people logic
Rings that show a line between several other rings.
Oh, Is that an avatar thing though?
It's a prefab:
https://booth.pm/ja/items/1130924
I've done the same thing.
https://i.scruffyrules.com/lGTYf2.png
Although a bit more crude and lazy. :P
Can I ask you how? Afaik shaders can't talk to eachother at all
You could make a light on the camera at a specific angle, and make a shader read light from only that angle, and other things like that. But lights are laggy so it's a poor solution
Does anyone know which version of unity do you have to use to import avatars?
2017.4.15f
Hi All.
@tacit plank 2017.4.15f1?
Wait, apparently it's a newer one? I can upload just fine though...
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/setting-up-the-sdk
Just follow this
@tacit plank One shader outputs it's position and puts it onto your screen, the other reads the screen and makes a line between the two.
That's creative! I can't believe I didn't think of that! Thanks
Kinda expensive though.
does anyone knwo where to get the fat mickey skin?
I made my own version, but with stencils. It's light, but stencils are limited to 256 combinations I believe. It also requires placing two 1 kilometer squares on both the avatars
Damn it's 6am now, I'm off
if anyone has a friend named "Sudaski" or if you ever see him, tell him "Run from Katy." and fast
Man I love taking breaks from this game. Gone one month and I get Screen flickering and a prompt to update drivers (but when I do, 90% of worlds wont render).
Sigh
@still lark I blame scruffy!
:O
8O!?
anybody know why unfavoriting an avatar wont unfavorite for me ? im trying to save a different avatar but i cant
try clicking the unfavorite a bunch of times maybe it got bugged
tried that, not sure why nothing is working,
did you restart the game
yes
try changing to the avatar and unfavorite
also did that :/
did you change to another avatar and then click
yep
once i unfavorite the avatar and go to another world, it appears as favorited again,
why dont you try going to an avatar world and then using favorite on another avatar
well the slots are full, so i unfavorite then favorite another avatar, it doesnt update the list, then a few minutes later after the menu is closed it shows the old avatar is favorited again,
then this game is buggy and idk what to do because it used to work a month ago
Friend's PC. could he run VR on VRC? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627758213428936754/627776787253952532/unknown.png
that clockspeed would be horrible @languid beacon also the biggest thing, i dont see any GPU listed, and on that id say, no to vr in general.
well then is VR ready 😄
B rUh
@languid beacon this counts mostly for SP games on steam, inside VRC it can be different, still u can filer out stuff by safety settings to keep up performance
@night depot are you really dumb enough to attempt to @ everyone in a server that’s really well made
Anyone keep getting disconnected from vrchat every couple of minutes?
b ||r||uh
But wait, what if a guy is actally named everyone? DUN DUN DUN
I find it unacceptable that VRChat lately has been filled with a number of people who are using clients that give your IP address to them, and openly brag about DDoSing/booting people. Particularly when they go to public places like The PUG and legitimately boot people who complain about their loud/obnoxious avatars that spam the screen using filters. I literally had my own router DDoSed by someone after a statement where someone's AV was making the menu inaccessable. Why is it that the only statement towards this is "use a VPN"?
There needs to be far more moderation, as this has been a ongoing problem since I started playing VRChat two years ago. There's no real in-game moderation in public areas to deal with this kind of nonsense.
that would go in user support wouldn't it?
Hello
I have a question can i ask ?
yes
Go ahead
I'm french so i have an azerty keyboard
ok
how i do for move with zqsd ans not wasd please ?
configuration settings?
Hold shift when launching the game and you can rebind setting
Thank you ! ^^
@hasty scarab Invest into a qwerty keyboard
Even I sometimes struggle with the German layout as games are typically made with QWERTY in mind
No i love my azerty keyboard
🤷
it's better for me
I wish I would've bought a QWERTY
most games dont matter if qwertz or qwerty they just change the y and z mapping when they detect the correspending one
But it sucks if people do combinations that are not changeable without thinking about that.
In some cases it does matter as the game may still expect me to press Z
like VRChat's avatar default hotkey 
Except Z is in a different location
Sometimes I actually have to press my Z, sometimes Y will work
This works until the moment the keybinds tell me to press ( ? / ect
That sounds like a very poor programmed game 
I have yet to encounter a game that totally runs into issues with the keyboard layout.
Off topic but, YandereSim is like that. Debug menu is unusable like that
Blade & Soul is like that too
Z X C V trigger stuff
Well my Z is all the way at the top and Y doesnt work
OVRToolkits keyboard is also in US layout so I have to change my system layout if I want to type symbols
And generally speaking, any website that tells me to press symbol keys is confusing because I first have to look up the US layout to see which key that is
Uhm.... what why
Arma 3 does that. Keys work fine but the keybinds menu shows them wrong
that sounds like stupid programming if it doesnt input the symbol you pressed insted pipes it trough a emulated keyboard or something wiht the wrong layout 
Cant fix that, FPaul.
Especially considering that it ain't exactly a free tool 
The problem is that the layout shows QWERTY but I use QWERTZ so if I want to type the symbol it shows on the virtual keyboard, I'll type whatever symbol that key corrosponds to on my actual keyboard
That's like switching out the keycaps on your keyboard to match QWERTY as close as possible while still having it set to QWERTZ
it's imo completely unacceptable for a virtual keyboard of a non free program to not account for that
Let's get back to VRChat topic tho 
🤷
Again, not something I can fix.
And to be perfectly honest, I think it is unacceptable that I need a paid tool to get a proper desktop view.
Pretty important for a lot of things, including chatting with mutes in VRC
Or generally staying in contact with someone who DC'd because oh no cant have text communication ingame
Also my way of checking who's on because the ingame social menu sometimes never updates
And then on other days it updates almost in real time
Has anyone noticed that the voice audio "cone" doesn't seem to work at all?
Everyone's the same volume, regardless of where they're stood in relation to me. The only thing that matters is distance.
I could honestly not tell that there even was a cone.
Exactly. I've really been struggling to hear people lately, it's like a crescendo of noise so I thought I'd test it and sure enough, everyone's the same volume, regardless of their bearing to me.
i'm a 3D environment artist looking to create a world in VrChat. Does anyone have any suggestions on what they want it to be? It can be from any anime and it would only be one scene.😄
recreate this in vrchat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcNKS8bQk7E
yes please do
@broken plover is there any more reference to the street? like other pictures or vids
Not that I know of. (I watched it a longer time ago tho)
I'm trying to get a password recovery and uhh, it never emails me.
I checked spam too, still never emails me
Are you sure you're checking the right E-Mail?
Yeah
Maybe it just takes a while. Give it a few mins. In the meantime I'll try that myself.
Okay
Try the password recovery on the website.
I assume you tried the ingame recovery?
No...?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
@hollow token you triple check you writing the correct email? also sometimes emails are late anywhere from 10 minutes to a few hours
i see that the exploit that immediately forces a vote-kick is still around
the one bright side about this is that I've noticed that there are fewer crasher avatars around because some of the assholes have started using this exploit instead to get around avatar blocking
Exploit or modded client?
likely a modded client that abuses the exploit
Not really something that can be so easily fixed.
i almost don't want them to fix it, cuz then there'll be mroe crasher avatars around
So you would rather have people force kicking you rather than using safety settings?
they're both inconveniences
i'd rather have a bit of both than a lot of either
Or you don't even really need safety settings. Perf. settings can do the same as it would disable avatars with too many particles.
Just block all edgy wolfboy and "gangsta" Y-Bot avatars. Crashing incidents down to 0.
Never seen Y-Bot avatars, (I think) and dunno what wolfboys look like
those wolfboys are bloody everywhere
But with safety settings you get the amount of crashing incidents down to 0 too :P
Luckily loading a world doesn't crash you most of the time anymore
Yes, but with safety settings up high, you never see anything interesting.
That's why mine's off most of the time.
People blinding me are a lot more common than crashers, at least in my experience and in those cases I can still flip on safety or hide that specific avatar and I'm fine.
Luckily for me, I'm not really sensitive to bright flashing colors.
Or you could just manually show avatar people who seem okay and keep the "useless desktop mutes" hidden because they're probably not going to do anything you'd want to see anyways.
as a useless desktop... Well I don't shut up, but hey
If you're on desktop and you're mute, you're not really contributing to anything really.
Communicate in emojis
I like having people in the background though, being surrounded by robots reminds me that I'm in a game. It's also why I keep name plates off 99% of the time.
I can have that with avatars, voice and shaders on and everything else off.
I don't really use perf settings because for some reason, it makes, no difference for me?
Sometimes I get shit performance even with perf settings maxed, dynamic bones off, safety maxed
FPS: Bruh nope
Blocking Very Poor avatars helps my performance but disabling dynamic bones has no effect.
Also disabling name plates on 25 man lobbies also gives me like a 10fps boost.
Sometimes I get 15 FPS in Murder 2 with everything at maximum
Pretty odd, but I guess background processes, the world itself and the amount of players alone already affect performance to a great amount.
Apparently it's due to the amount of draw calls nameplates take.
I think they're dynamically constructed per letter, so a 10 letter name is like 15 draw calls lol
I kind of wish name plates would show up if you open the menu, and only for that long.
Yeah, I wanted that too, would be useful
Then I can open the menu and quickly see who's who, then close it again and be fine.
Right now the only way to see who's who without re-enabling it is by pointing at the user.
Good luck if that's a tiny avatar or there's like 3 people stacked inside of each other.
At which point name plates would be mostly useless anyways because you can't read three names stacked on top of each other
You don't need to reenable it, just bring up the menu and point at people, they'll appear in the top left, but yeah, if it's a group or they're behind something then it's impossible.
Yes, it is possible as I have mentioned, but it can be tricky at times.
But seeing that I barely even pay attention to the names at all (because I keep forgetting them) I'll probably keep mine off now too
As soon as you're in a busy instance it's just gonna be a clutter of unreadable name tags anyways.
mmhmm. It's why I make avatars for friends when they can't find anything they like, so I don't have to keep second guessing if it's them or someone else with the same avatar.
Luckily the avatar I'm currently using is quite rare so I'm either the elf or a B1 battle droid.
"in case something happens" like?
I dont even notice nameplates anymore
That's why you use safety settings
I can't even tell who's using a screen shader even with tags on depending on how it is done
I have safety on max
By that i mean everyone but friends is just voice and avatar
I mean I can see the avatars
but no shaders, particles, sound fx or animations
Speaking of max safety, how come the max safety preset disables avatars entirely for Users and below?
I know because it turns the majority of the room into robots just based on rank.
I have, but it's still stupid for it to be like that.
It can be useful
My custom safety has avatar, voice and shaders for all except friends. Shaders because, uhh yeah some avatars are actually worse to look at with shaders off. Gotta love those giant boxes around them that block the entire view in Murder 2.
If somne is using a very laggy emote, just do the max safety shortcut and you are good
You could do the same with anims off and perf settings to poor
I'm pretty sure the names are not 1 draw call per letter.
It's just a text shader
Some guy literally almost sent me into a "banned world" lol
"Banned world"?
The name plates could be optimzied for draws better, but it's not due to the text. it's due to the various elements on them that could potentially be visible
idk it said somethging with banned lobby and a website leading to "hacked clients" idk
Sounds like a bunch of words meant to scare people, but used incorrectly
I will hack your unity codes! I have already downloaded your IP.
😳
I just think it was some kind of advertisement for their hacked client website, cause almost all the people in the room were having weird ass avatars haha
I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it. The people who do those kind of things just feed off the attention.
yeah, just hope it doesnt get out of hand because every kid is downloading this stuff lol
Like I said, they can freely do so, and if they get no response, they'll quickly get bored and move on.
someone please define "e-girl" to me
electronic girl
well
Define it, not say that it stands for :P
I guess I asked for that, yeah. Does it denote anything particular? Or is it just literally a girl playing vrchat?
Yeah that wouldn't have been what I assumed it meant
Same
I will say, it is accurate to how the greater internet uses the word. Not so sure if VRChat uses the same exact connotations, though.
But a quick image google will show you what everyone else thinks

How lovely when people change their name and you have no idea who they are anymore. Even more so when you realize that their current display name is already a changed name
Good thing there's a website that let's you keep memos on people so I at least have a chance to look things up.
Any A.R.M.Y here!
Ran into a guy also using an FFXIV ripped avatar, but he literally ripped it and exported it to unity. I was offering my help to fix it since I'm a goddamn pro now but he didn't seem interested
Oh well I guess!
zoom
hey
hello
Hi
anyone know of a world on vrchat were one could get a snake model?
a snake, or a solid snake
I unfortunately not, but im sure someone else will 
oh okay....
google or whatever search service you use may help
I doubt google knows the answer to such questions
But it can help to use the website to search for metal gear avatars, assuming such a world exists
Other than that, there isn't exactly a list of all public avatars and the worlds they can be found in, at least not to my knowledge.
Has anyone here upgraded their headset from the HTC Vive to the Valve Index? Was it worth the upgrade?
anything from vive to index is worth
ok
especially as you can save money for the lighthouses
and you can partially upgrade too.
Right! Valve sent me the Index controllers for puppetry so I'm looking at upgrading just the headset.
especially then
hey
so
Oh btw hey paul
What do i need to make a vrchat world
That sounds great
@fluid bloom hello. Best to check out some tutorials for world creation 
o7
in addition to great sound in HMD without extra audio stuff you need to buy
I'll be going from Oculus Dev Kit 2 -> HTC Vive -> Valve Index
I've heard good things about the sound
I wonder if the mic is any better. I have a small studio mic superglued to my Vive headset
"studio mic" uhm 
Let me rephrase, a professional lavalier omnidirectional microphone
now why would you do that
Because the Vive mic sucks in comparison
play in desktop mode 😎
I think you'll be pleasantly impressed with the Index's audio overall.
it will if you try hard enough😎
That's great to hear
I have my mic running down to a USB DAC and it would be nice not to need to have it
Vive mic is okay, Vive pro is horrid (but has great ambient noise cancellation), Index is incredible by comparison.
That's great to hear
I basically only go into VR when I'm recording myself puppeteering in VRChat, and that voice performance is important to me to be clear
The earspeakers are a whole different beast though.
It's so weird hearing spatial audio with them, because some sounds if they're done just right are indistinguishable from a real sound from your room.
That's amazing. It sounds like it's just what it needs to be
When I heard a friend after we got ours, it was an absolute trip because he'd visited earlier this year and it literally sounded like he was in my room as I remembered it when he really was in my room.
Ha! That's great
the only thing i dont like about them is the "away from ear" thing.
Yeah, there's times where having the actual room ambience leak in can be a bit ehh.
Cus, i wanna get sealed off from the surroundings. 
The 11/10 comfort completely negates that for me though.
i dont know why so many people have issue with on ear pieces 
in terms of a HMD it's not even much preasure
A HMD yeah, not much. Something pressing on your ears is very different.
Sounds like it's comparable to open ear headphones rather than the typical closed ear
i mean with a HMD like this you dont even have much preasure required for them to sit in place
unless just headphones
cus the HMD allready holds them on
Does your face get hot quickly?
With the Index? Nah, the bulk of the heat is vented out the front.
waaait a minute
A little comes back towards you but that's a good thing since it keeps the lenses at a similar temperature to your face to prevent them from fogging up.
It started as a campaign that I backed
rather costy tho
It's pretty good for people who play a lot of physically intensive games and don't have AC.
I have a check coming in soon from a studio Puppeteering gig I did that aired this morning on Fox Sunday NFL
Which is why I'm looking into the Index
@rough pulsar Awesome. I don't have AC at home so if it was a hot headset to wear it would have been a dealbreaker
It also gets a bit hotter the higher you run the display panels. At 144hz mine gets pretty toasty. Enough I could easily keep a chicken nugget or two nicely hot inside the frunk.
Where are the optimized avatar worlds?
👀 my worlds?
yeah possibly lol
im looking for something.. specific. But all the worlds have such horribly optimized avatars.
Kings Raid is pretty good
I think all avatars are
and
and they're all Quest compatible.
There's a Star Wars Stormtrooper world with
Stormtroopers unarmed and
if they have a blaster.
All my avatars are
and quest compatible too 🙂
I like the Kings Raid ones. I'll check out your avatars Blue.
But it's not too surprising so many
avatars exist.
A lot of people making avatars can't even be bothered to do simple optimization to get the mat count down, go completely overboard with dynamic bones, maybe also have an overload of particles on them in their idle state
Basically it's like "Hmm, I'm already
, whatever let's make it even worse and pretend that it doesn't matter"
Turns out character creation for 3D game engines is quite an advanced skill, who'd have thought?
It takes 5 minutes to significantly reduce the mat count, Gal.
And if you don't know how to add dynamic bones without going into
instantly, don't make public avatars that use them.
Heyo
So I have no idea if it's just my internet connection but previously I've been able to connect to the great pug quite quickly. But now it takes like, about 10-20 minutes.
I tried clearing my cache but no luck.
Did you try other maps
Open Mic night took about the same time
@vestal pier which world has avatars?
Meanwhile I'm here enjoying my
FBT avatar that barely anyone uses and that use a face that literally every other avatar has as well.
"Blues limbo" has all of my avatars, from every world @iron thunder
found it
@neat wyvern Did you successfully load into the world?
I did for the great pug but I can't remember for open Mic night
I'll assume I did
But even then, when I got in literally no avatars were loading at all
Then its your internet.
When I went in the box it loaded fairly quickly but the only avatar that loaded was the default leprechaun, and there were a few error avatars
Or rather your connection to any given server
helo
Gah I need to complain to virgin media
https://www.speedtest.net/ try doing a speed test
@iron thunder so where r u i cant see u online 😏
3.68mbps download speed and 6.01mbps upload speed @covert blade
I'm a hot boi and heat would bother me, but I went from the Vive to the Index and didn't notice any increase in "face heat" so I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep the frunk cover off.
You have more upload than download?
Somehow yes
But yeah, that connection isn't all that great.
lol my speeds are opposite. I have 5-6 download and 2-3.5 upload
Are you certain? 
i have 13.67 download and 1.56 upload
You have 5-6 upload but also 2-3.5 UPload?
87.53 Mbps download
20.19 Mbps upload
And that's nothing compared to the DL speed a friend of mine has in the states.
well damn
It makes downloading AAA games somewhat okay
my friend downloads 1GB in about 1minute
i'd bet
meanwhile I take 30-60 minutes for 1GB
Classified 🤷
Oof aight
ah
Mine's virgin media
thats amazing
I have telekom. And I have copper cables (i think) that let me upgrade to max 16mbps download or something like that
copper with vectoring goes higher these days
way higher
but ofc only if its available at your location
I live in some small village in the south... No good internet here
I'm on vectored copper lines with heavy interleaving, still only get around 20Mb and it's highly unstable.
I live in Leeds and we have like quantum entanglement internet
Dude, you're like half an hour away from me 🙃
Aye sir!
I'm just down in barnsley 💩
I mean... if you don't mind a few speeding violations, I reckon you'd be able to get anywhere in britain within half an hour
Haha true
1,000mphs
Mi/h
whos on rn
Hmpfs
paci get on rn and go to ur world
but y
pls
is people dead
Right, but you'll have a bone to pick with me :V
That's a bit of a bold statement good sir.
yes
100+ hrs in a single instance and a few things have broken already like voice support (cant hear people who joined in after passing the ~40 hours mark, IK is looking laggy for those who are in for too long and the time-since-instance-join timers on several avatars show weird values like https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615293765237604363/627955470375583744/unknown.png) but so far we havent had a single person time out or otherwise disconnect due to server problems. thanks vrchat sysadmins <3
I am tbh not sure if your happy or if its sarcasm 🤔
why would it be sarcasm?
Because people complain often about the most insane things and i can for sure find a group of users who would be legit unhappy they cant run an instance for 100+ hours without any flaws
But its awesome to hear you and your group even managed to make it go that long, pretty insane of an task
yeah, the instance has been up for way longer than that already. i believe its past the 150 mark
yep
i would be unhappy.. im about to reach the 69hrs mark
My wife would leave me if she caught me sleeping in vrchat
like litterally... im at 68:58hrs
to 200 and beyond!
Would a VR waifu leave someone if caught sleeping in IRL? '-'
eee
I'm new to the game, so forgive me if this is a dumbass question: can I use custom avatars in any public lobby, or does it have to be hosted by myself?
any lobby
Thanks!
And I saw a post on Reddit claiming that one of the more recent SDK updates disabled cloth components - is this actually true?
what is good world to go to
am sleep
that doesn't induce sleep
good question i wanna know as well
How well does the game handle player size? Would arm movements work just as well on something akin to the Hulk as a tiny anime girl?
I'm pretty tall in real life, but I'd rather not walk around in a gorilla pose in order for my arms not to clip through my body.
It will handle arm movement of avatars of any size, but you may find that you can't extend avatars arms fully or they extend fully before your real arms while your point of view is aligned with your avatar
Torso length to arm length relation is more important than avatars height though. If it is similar to yours it should be alright
Ah okay
basically dont worry about it
Thanks
Just out of curiosity, how many people play this game in pancake mode rather than actually in VR?
A lot
probably more than you think
You mean Desktop mode? Hahahah
Huh
vr users are the minority in this game im pretty sure
I sadly have to, until I can save a few paychecks for a Rift S
or an index that one is cool
And is it common to be using custom avatars, or do most people just download ones online?
Desktop mode is good for a quick avatar test.
its common to get avatars from the worlds or from other people
Among the ranks I think desktop users are the minority among the trusted users
Hmm
Interesting
you should've seen this game last year it was all about custom avatars but it kinda died down
Anyone have a guess how long I can test a virtual market 3 avatar before I decide to get it? I mean the event is over.
no idea. i just tested any avatars i wanted during the event and favorited any possibilities
try them while you still can i guess
Oh yes and they're favorited.
what is that all about
A virtual market in vrchat for avatars last week that ended Saturday.
They cost money though. Thus decisions.
if they were free id feel bad i didnt join but i have no money so good luck with your decisions
i have a question whats a good world to join
is there a reason why random people keep having their clients crash randomly in a world?
probably just a guy trolling with an avatar
its a friends only world, so no, that isn't it
ah then i have no idea
friend
is
peen
tbh i personally think that making the vket3, or in that context pretty much everything, time limited, is a pretty bad idea since very often people with money to buy the content have also limited time. i'd probably consider buying stuff that i like if i ever had the chance to see the content before it was taken down again :c
i mean, the content isnt unavailable.
You can't take on the demo's anymore, thats it.
well yeah but the content isnt easily discoverable anymore and theres no information where to buy the content, so...
New window update kinda messed up my audio for VRchat
and got crashed by a crasher in public world lol
@uncut trail see #moderation-reports, i usually report the user id and exact timestamp when the crash occurred, the team will do an investigation based on your information you provide to them
That problem couldn't see the person
report without usernane/userid and attach your log file
Feelsbadman
also, safety settings my friend. if you wanna enjoy the game, only allow voice and avatar, even for friends, and then set everyone you want to see animations/shaders/etc. from as show avatar
Lol I already do that
Reason: cause my PC can’t handle shaders and everything else xD
Hey guys a friend of mine is doing a twitch stream on vrchat for the first time and hes letting me pick him out an anime avatar to use whats the best world for that?
What kind is he after maybe ask in #avatars-2-general xD
is vrchat going crazy or is it just me?
@vocal shard Amount of custom avatars really depends on your definition of 'custom'. Completely modelled from scratch? Not many. Edits of provided bases online (such as MMD avatars)? Fair amount. Myself and most friends I know use MMDs clothed and textured from a base body. Custom hair, even animal ears. I'd pipe something like that as 'custom' since it's unique in its own way and a lot of time and effort goes into a custom MMD. (Try weightpainting a long dress to work with dynamic bones and not break. Fun.)
Ah
Approx. how much playtime does it take before you get authorized to create avatars?
Hi 😄 I have a question please 😄
It's different for everyone. It's more based on activity rather than time
about the rules for vrchat, I am confused O:
I logged on today, been a while and i see many sexualized avatars in world, like the 1st few worlds on the list.
what are the rules on that?
No nudity, this includes genetals that are covered by clothes. Those must be removed from the model.
Visit the worlds, see if there's nudity, if yes then report world for nudity
What does no nudity mean? as in if the stuff is cut off under the clothes, it's fine if the clothes is like.. almost nothing?
not entirely sure how to word this but can the oculus quest link up with the other headsets?
Skimpy clothes are fine. Just no bits visible allowed




