Also the fact its 3840 x 2160, has a depth camera and 7-microphone array (or way it 6)
#vrchat-general-2
umbral reef
lunar cedar
Forcing the k4a to run in full res for body tracking makes my 1080 shit itself
Need like dual 2080ti
I think sensor tech may have accidentally jumped passed compute capabilities
umbral reef
Going to happen more and more
Mainly because we dont want to make things run smoother/cheaper yet because 'the compute power will come'
fervent falcon
i found a hacker where do i report
broken plover
slate plinth
is it me or did vrchat get more laggy now???
lunar shell
Seems the last update caused avatar loading times to be long again.
slow halo
Is it just me or is Drumsy the funniest vrchat YouTuber
faint skiff
There are funny VRChat YouTubers?
vestal pier
people watch vrchat youtube π ?
lunar cedar
That's how I found the game lol
covert blade
That's how probably quite a number of people even find out and become interested
vestal pier
I imagine so, considering theres very little marketing
lunar shell
I do. Found vrchat because of HeyimBee. Watch Drumsy sometimes too.
vestal pier
I really only watched Pokelawls videos back when he made vrchat content, but those stopped
covert blade
YouTubers playing VR games + the price for the Vive being reduced from its original value was the reason I even got into VR
lunar cedar
I think it was drumsy that I found, but I don't watch much vrchat youtubers anymore
covert blade
Same. I rather just play the game myself and experience stuff
pseudo bobcat
lunar shell
Same. Got my Vive for $500 plus $100 for the DAS. No regrets. Now I can upgrade to the index when the time comes for only another $500 without needed to buy basestations for it.
covert blade
I'm fine with the Vive. I'm not fine with those controllers
faint skiff
SteamVR 2.0?
covert blade
slow halo
I'm looking forward to Christmas
Allowing myself tobuy it for myself then
Should be a good time
faint skiff
Ah. I stuck with the V1s for now but that may have been a mistake as no-one really wants to buy a Vive with no base-stations...
inner cape
ah yes, the condom fox
slow halo
I'm awful with names so sorry for not remembering
faint skiff
Wait, Ghosto, have I actually met you?
faint skiff
Ah, so you're not the little black garbage goblin... thing, ok.
faint skiff
The giant Enderman?
faint skiff
If it's the same one all the kids constantly use, I literally hide it on sight because I got so tired of people constantly just blocking everyone elses view, like 99% of the time, lol.
I guess it's Minecraft so it just grabs the kids attention maybe, who knows
faint skiff
Pug is more cramped so the "literally just standing IN other people" thing happens a lot there. Less of an issue with the Cat.
inner cape
thats why i prefer it, more space
faint skiff
That's one thing that annoys me with desktop users, they don't really realise how annoying it is to stand in or infront of VR users.
inner cape
ive been shilling out black cat in here all day, stop giving me opportunities
slow halo
I try to be considerate of people who aren't virtually disabled
since I'm only a fraction of a... Whatever
keyboard for legs. Paralysed arms! My head can't turn!
inner cape
your head wobbles
slow halo
heck yeah it does
inner cape
and plants wrong ideas into peoples heads
slow halo
I saw that tubefox and instantly cloned it for myself. It gave me a sense of peace of serenity when I first saw it so I thought, "hey, I'm a peaceful tubefox"
but no, everyone just says I look like a condom
or a fleshlight
slow halo
kek
dusty spoke
Help
vestal pier
same
faint skiff
Foxsleve, because it rhymes with...
pastel tulip
Trees
slow halo
lol
inner cape
winter notch
hello ppl
obsidian herald
I have seen people spam
wheat terrace
whos down to come watch scary and sad videos with me in the room of rain
cedar bobcat
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6581 users in VRChat currently
cedar bobcat
Who you calling a bot
glad bolt
That command you used. π€
vestal pier
its also on the right
like the bot clearly displays user count on the right of the screen
or if on mobile, swipe from the right to left
glad bolt
I just hit the people icon.
livid marsh
π
vocal shard
Woah
languid beacon
wooo, Oculus Quest supporting PCVR via USB C in November
main pike
do anyone know any good settings for streaming with VR on OBS?
sharp inlet
graceful pewter
yes soon it'll be a PC headset
how to deal with Quest users trying to use vrchat with way to low-powered PCS yay
uncut trail
Wonder how vive Cosmo go well with vrchat
pseudo basalt
So that's why people are saying rip rift-s
Quite a weird decision but hey, good on them
uncut trail
Oculus with no controller function
graceful pewter
yeah the weird part is why they even released the rift-s
in the first place
pseudo basalt
Isn't it better, display wise and all that
pseudo basalt
It'd end up being a mid tier headset and the quest would be a low-tier but more versatile
graceful pewter
yes because it has 8 extra frames
meager solstice
what r u on about?
graceful pewter
the frame rate difference between the quest and the rift s is not a whole lot
meager solstice
u mean the refresh rate?
pseudo basalt
I wonder if it'd be possible to make the index a mobile headset with a front addon
Ignoring the power requirements
graceful pewter
you can't ignore the power requirement
meager solstice
u mean like wireless?
more than likely someone will have a wireless index eventually
just like the vive and the oculus
pseudo basalt
More like a mobile chip to run it standalone. I'm speaking purely from a proof of concept point of view. Obviously nobody would want to buy a 1k$ headset and realistically expect that to be properly useable.
graceful pewter
well you sure as heck aren't running it on those High refresh rate on mobile Hardware
pseudo basalt
I haven't seen any interesting addons for it other than those displays
What's the refresh rate on the quest even
meager solstice
72
graceful pewter
The Oculus Quest uses two diamond Pentile OLED displays, each with an individual resolution of 1440 Γ 1600 and a refresh rate of 72 Hz.
Rift S uses a single fast-switch LCD panel with a resolution of 2560Γ1440 with refresh rate 80 Hz
meager solstice
why do u find it weird that they released the rift s @graceful pewter ?
graceful pewter
because it a stopgap that only really has a reason to exist for about 4 months before they got the quest Links done
because why the heck would anyone buy Rift s when they could buy a quest considering they're identical in price
which now that I think about is probably why they outsourced it to Lenovo to make the Rifts s
graceful pewter
yes but quest can essentially be a rift come November
meager solstice
the quest is more for a mobile, doesnt want the hassle of hooking it up to pc. The rift s is more for people who may alreay have a vr headset and have a pc
graceful pewter
yes but now the question of why would you ever recommend a rift s to someone brand new
now that the quest can also be a rift
meager solstice
true
graceful pewter
what are you trying to do and you are you're on the unity base program Discord so you probably going to get biased answers
as there's probably not a whole lot of folks on here with unreal experience
meager solstice
yeah.... depends on what u r trying to do tbh
cinder dock
Would it be possible to engineer VRChat to run on Unreal?
graceful pewter
no and why would you
cinder dock
Its better
graceful pewter
that's a colossal waste of money as it would basically be doing it over from scratch
cinder dock
Oh
graceful pewter
and everyone would have to re-upload their avatars and probably fix the materials as they use different programming languages & PBR setups
faint skiff
@graceful pewter The pentile display makes a big difference, it means in reality that the screens are actually only 720x1600, not 1440x1600
It's why the screen door effect is so exaggerated
meager solstice
I donβt see how u can flat out say unreal engine is better than unity
graceful pewter
mostly it just looks better because it has better out of the box post-processing turned on
lunar cedar
It certainly has a higher quality ceiling, but reaching that ceiling isn't easy
faint skiff
I didn't realise the Rift S was a single panel though, that's interesting
ivory frost
This is awesome news for Quest except that damn usb-C port is on the front left. Maybe I'm the only one who has smacked my headset playing Beat Saber, but it's only a matter of time before I break that port without a specially designed cable to minimize the risk of breaking it.
vocal shard
any1 crashing instantly going to worlds today? and world preview pictures are default blank no image found thumbnails?
graceful pewter
that's probably why they're selling a special cable for it
ivory frost
I hope that's why Rainwolf. That would be well worth the money. Or an adapter that relocates the port but deflects the force of strikes to protect the original port.
uncut trail
Question how the hell desktop user able to use the camera ? I saw desktop user pulled out a camera and took pictures ?
molten gale
Id say client
uncut trail
Huh ?
molten gale
because thats not supposed to be possible I think
uncut trail
Oh dear
molten gale
Could be wrong tho
Maybe their avatar glitched after an emote and the arm movement reverted to desktop mode
Happened to me once
Who knows
timid dragon
Someones trying to crash me xD but somehow im surviving since 20 minutes with 1 fps lmao
Lets see who last longer π π
lunar cedar
Their client probably doesn't load their own avatar, so probably them. However they won't last longer as a player after getting banned at least.
timid dragon
Oh not just vrchat was lagging my whole pc was at like -1fps i couldnt do anything had to do a hard reset... something like this shouldnt hapoen tho
lunar cedar
AMD?
timid dragon
Yea amd
lunar cedar
You only have one GPU π¦
timid dragon
?
lunar cedar
Intel has an iGPU that, while crappy, is used for rendering the rest of the system while the dGPU is overloaded
timid dragon
Rip
Well that was the first time and the last time in 10 months that i joined a public box lobby
lunar cedar
box is where people test their avatars, so that may not have been an actual crasher. Just a crap avatar
timid dragon
He used music that every crappy crash avatar uses
lunar cedar
oh wasn't aware they had music for them now lol. I have almost every avatar feature disabled these days
timid dragon
I'm mostly in private worlds n stuff thats why i have everything enabled :x
Sad that you cant enjoy vrchat in public without sisabling everything
Best community xd
disabling*
lunar cedar
it's on the internet, it's to be expected
ruby burrow
I go around with all safety settings disabled myself, but exist 98% in either Friends+ instances or the kinds of public instances that undesirable people don't go to, so pretty much haven't see a crasher since Christmas myself.
My first few months in VR was full of them though.
I have been wondering how many are still around these days. People seem to complain about it much less at least, so I can only assume things have improved a fair bit.
Used to be practically every hour in this chat that someone would mention crashers, back in late-mid 2018.
old arch
hollow sluice
IF this True well you have my condolances. But I do find it Hard to believe
covert blade
@ruby burrow Only really got crashed once and the second time SteamVR itself somehow crashed
95% of all my crashes used to be related to loading a world but that's pretty much fixed know
No safety here either btw
ruby burrow
In the old days before the safety system I got crashed a lot. Just seemed to be a surge in crasher activity around that time, long enough after all the people arrived from the knuckles invasion that malicious people had started to learn how to make stuff, but too soon for many of them to have been banned or gotten bored of being assholes yet.
But I also used to deliberately keep an eye on suspected crashers, and attempt to get logs and evidence when they did reveal themselves.
I had this philosophy that getting hit by a crash gun was worth it if it resulted in me getting a good crash log to email off.
My steam screenshots of the game are 90% wannabe neon rapper kids with glowing guns and edgy names.
Would snap them in advance if anyone was acting at all suspicious.
still lark
Are you stereotyping? >:(
ruby burrow
Honestly... yes. But it was a very accurate detection method. >_>;
still lark
lmao
ruby burrow
They wore that stuff like a freaking uniform.
tropic seal
is there anyone i can play vrchat with... am lonely and mic doesnt work half the time... but im not good at meeting people...
dont have a headset or anything... ,_,
snow wadi
Your first step will always be the hardest, you just gotta muster up the courage to take it.
Try to first find a group and listen to them for the first minute, then slowly introduce yourself and blend in with their conversation.
tropic seal
ok... sorry for bothering you...
snow wadi
Whatever you do, don't beg for a conversation.
Wait wat? You didn't bother me at all D:
tropic seal
i get it... but i just dont have that courage...
snow wadi
This platform is one of the best remedies to socialising. And you needed to see it this way; if you're not ready to socialize in the digital world, the real world is gonna be a tough time for you.
So take that first step!
tropic seal
i already know the real world is tough... i dont need a reminder... sorry...
||i shouldn't have bothered
meager solstice
@tropic seal i mena a good amount of people r "mute" in game
and alot of people do not discourage them at all, I myself have become friends with people for a over a year who i have never heard say a single word
so maybe just being mute will be good for u
tropic seal
how do i meet people like that...?
meager solstice
u mean by being mute?
tropic seal
yeah... or even if my mic works...
meager solstice
most people talk to mutes like their normal people, the normal shake ur head yes and no to answer stuff
most of the time i join a pug and just talk to people, hang out. if i think they r cool i'll add them
tropic seal
where do I go...
lunar cedar
black cat is good
stuck nymph
@ruby needle it was not intended to start a discussion in the #vrchat-pictures channel π ... just wanted to show the beautiful avatar (just as i did) just scrol up, the whole channel is full of smal conversations, not going into detail but enhance the pictures shown π€· the channel is about pictures and the smal conversations are conversations about the pictures. Did not know, that its a 'picture-only' chat with the prohibition to add text to the pictures
ruby needle
No problem. But I mean, you did post it with a question so knowing to start a conversation 
While most others are acting upon something posted by someone 
stuck nymph
it was more like a statement as a true question
tropic seal
thanks jak, very cool
rotund wren
Goodmorning gamers
vocal shard
good afternoon european gamers
covert blade
Hi
vocal shard
oh wow its more dead here than i expected
covert blade
Just be here when the servers are down
vocal shard
good point
if School wasnt in the way i would have been trying to find people on VRChat anyway :/
covert blade
For me, work is in the way
vocal shard
i see
jade pulsar
would anyone be able to find me an old avatar im searching for?
its that flying cloud one and im trying to find it i think its called flying nimbus?
inner cape
dont post the same message across multiple channels
slow halo
Ladies and gentlemen: let us wageslave
vestal pier
yes
slim temple
you should warn people that getting kicked can severely affect your rank and cause people to get nuisance ranks. It's not stressed enough, DO NOT kick someone unless they are really, really being disruptive. Don't even do it as a joke
umbral reef
Almost like using moderation systems for shits and giggles is dumb
Also if it means that user cant rejoin the room for a while anyway
faint skiff
They may have meant that it just dropped them home or out of the instance for no reason. I've had it happen on desktop once or twice and a lot on the Quest.
vestal pier
as a map owner you can warn people, pretty sure it does nothing but send a message
slim temple
@faint skiff for sure, that's a thing. I've seen it happen with too many voices
umbral reef
Well adding a warning saying it should only be used to self moderate rooms and not as a 'you been afk to long, go home' or a 'haha funny meme xd' button
slim temple
for example when atol of ether was new, because everyone spawns on the hill and idles there for a bit, quest users popping in would get blackscreened over 20 users
yeah, I made a canny about it just now
umbral reef
Got a link? Il give it an up doot
slim temple
I've heard stories of people earning nuisance rank because they were joking around with their friends
vestal pier
sounds fun
slim temple
like, they were kicking him from their own map
(which isn't a thing you should be allowed to do imo)
I also don't think you need any rank at all to be able to vote on a kick
vestal pier
Probably there to prevent bots mass kicking people
slim temple
you mean it should be there?
vestal pier
yeah, to prevent mass kicking
slim temple
because I think white users can vote on a kick
slim temple
no, I think there might not be a rank restriction on that
vestal pier
maybe there should be
slim temple
I could be wrong but I've never seen anything to indicate there was a restriction
votekick has been around since pre- version 0.12 or so iirc , so before the trust system
umbral reef
The only rule with vote kicking so far i know and from reading all updates is that 50+% has to agree on it
No rank needed, no special jaz like that
pseudo basalt
If you give everyone the ability to moderate you can bet your ass someone will do it for shits and giggles with their friends
slim temple
oof, considering that can lead to trust degradation - I put a canny in just now
umbral reef
Im tempted to say its there own fault then but at the same time, we are talking about VRC users, cant expect anything logical from them
pseudo basalt
It's also like not obvious
slim temple
clearer warnings on what a kick actually does, @pseudo basalt is correct
that's the gist of it
pseudo basalt
It should not be a thing if you're kicking or warning in private worlds, which should also include friends only
But who knows if it even is a thing there, but i would expect it to be the same everywhere
uncut trail
So how does VR desktop user use VR Camera ?
broken plover
simple. Dont
umbral reef
You cant
pseudo basalt
We've warned each other as friends many times and it was funny. Ranks didn't even exist back then tho
uncut trail
Well i saw a desktop user pulled out a vr camera
slim temple
@uncut trail some worlds have an implementation.
uncut trail
like the box ?
slim temple
like virtual market. Also, without modifying the vrchat client there are ways to launch the client in vr mode
for example, AMD has a software implementation vr headset
you can also use vr with a controller instead of a keyboard and mouse
pure hemlock
Is the tools in the Virtual Market going to make it to the base VRChat menu? Chat, Teleportation, and on demand mirror generation is soooo nice
uncut trail
There a part 2 that didnt make into VR market
slim temple
https://vrchat.net/home/user/usr_bd03d446-0f5f-47e2-bfab-48e8edaf5cfd here's a link to the creator of the RAKUSEN MARKET if you wanna check them out. The quality is mostly just as high, there was a lotto for getting into vmarket
@pure hemlock those tools are freely available now, I warn you though, they're tricky to use!
pure hemlock
Ah that's nice they released it. But this should be core vrchat functionality imo.
slim temple
I think a lot of this will be very possible in the future. The thing is, with udon and other things coming leaving those functions up to the users to create will be key. When you add a core function like "teleport to a player" like for example, making it a vrc_playermod, you may have situations where players don't want to be teleported to
there's other things to consider, but making it on a map by map basis is best.
pure hemlock
In the base vrchat menu I should be able to simply toggle teleportation On/Friends Only/Off. And worlds could have a boolean to toggle teleportation off entirely.
Much better than leaving it up to each map creator to have to implement these core functionalities ..
slim temple
I disagree a bit, you can't retrofit teleportation into already existing maps, too many maps are puzzles and whatnot and rely on users having to complete things to reach other parts
even a simple example: imagine if someone in a locked room in a club could just be teleported on
I think it would be a great additon but map makers would have to allow it explicitly
pure hemlock
People find a way to abuse everything. Doesn't mean we shouldn't provide convenient features for users. Just ensure users have the ability to safely manage their teleportation settings.
slim temple
yes, but due to existing content, it has to be a map option at best, if anything
pure hemlock
The lack of teleportation is the reason why larger maps are so widely unpopular. How many times have you joined in on a friend in a bigger map and left after a few minutes of aimlessly trying to find them. I like big maps but I hate trying to find my friends for several minutes and then giving up and leaving.
slim temple
such a feature would completely break very special maps like lakuza lounge
pure hemlock
I am not super familiar with Lakuza lounge but he could simply just turn 'teleportion' off in the map settings if it was an issue
faint skiff
Indeed, teleportation makes everything seem tiny because there is no-longer "distance" as a blocker.
pure hemlock
Oh really? I thought it was just a bar with props
slim temple
ha! jeez
lakuza lounge has hidden rooms, hidden dialog, full on rpg, item system
storyline, the whole shibang!
pure hemlock
wtf lol
slim temple
yeah!
faint skiff
The dialogue was weird, I wasn't expecting that heh
slim temple
yep, and he adds new dialog and story to the map every time there's a theme. The current robot takeover adds a bunch too
it's "light" compared to luxarion world because people find it hard to spend that much time slogging through
but it's a true game
pure hemlock
Well then... I am going to be checking out the map again I guess lol
slim temple
you should! there's quite a few like that. Actually, even virtual market has a game
though I never figured it out sadly
it's a "stamp relay" like they do at conventions in japan
but you do it with avatars. One avatar has a gesture which shows a hint to the next one and so on
eventually you get a password for a free premium model download to own
pure hemlock
Neato!~ The virtual market has been amazing
faint skiff
Aww, wish I'd been around for that
slim temple
Y'all should try more of the game worlds, they're pretty great. Everyone knows murder and cards against humanity, but there's also uno and many adventure worlds
enverex: vket3 has been extended
you can still check it out
pure hemlock
He can't cuz he be banned
slim temple
ouch
pure hemlock
Someone should compile a list of fun games and activities in VRC tbh. They can be so hard to discover in game unless they have a active flow of users to them
pure hemlock
Yah but the last few times I've looked at it, it was a lot of meh or worlds that weren't even games
I think anyone can tag their world as a game?
I just remember going through it, like half weren't even games, and another quarter were like unfinished or unpolished buggy stuff.
faint skiff
@slim temple When till?
slim temple
28th
faint skiff
I'm not banned anymore, that expired Tuesday night
Ah ok. So I only have tonight to check it out (I'm out all Friday due to a work event)
pure hemlock
Ah welcome back to VRC then
faint skiff
Thanks
pure hemlock
sweatpants and turtle neck sweater avatars only from now on , right?
faint skiff
Apparently so
They ignored me when I disputed the ban because it doesn't fall foul of what would normally result in a ban. Can't say I'm surprised really.
slim temple
just a few fun game worlds. Highly reccomend the first one
vrcw.net is a neat site to find things off the beaten path
viscid seal
thanks for the shout out π
yeah I think most people that go to lounge aren't aware of the hidden adventure π
but beating lakuza lounge unlocks the hidden portal to a teaser of the world I'm currently developing called Bullet Time Agent π
So the lounge is like a prequel to that world π
bullet time if you don't know about it: https://twitter.com/LakuzaVR/status/1155149776788307968?s=20
umbral reef
Siked as shit for that world
Seen it in a video where it was fairly unfinished and loved the idea of it
viscid seal
everything in that trailer is in vrchat
slim temple
XD
viscid seal
but in that hidden portal
novel fog
there is a guy breaking the rules right now on the active JB server, is there an admin avalible
he is giving out guns and letting a prisoner shoot everyone
umbral reef
You can report people -> #moderation-reports
But for now you can votekick him after you get proof of him cheating.
slim temple
sounds like something that can be handled in game via votekick
viscid seal
whats JB?
slim temple
jailbreak
viscid seal
ooh ok
yeah, just vote kick or get instance master to kick them
or make a new instance
novel fog
i know we could kick him but the majority of people is with him, friends etc
slim temple
that's unfortunate, but it's not really something you can mod against
faint skiff
I was one of those people that wasn't aware of the game in the lounge until a friend made me do pipe-parkour to keep up with them...
novel fog
i have met him before and he dont know the rules even tho he think he does
viscid seal
yeah the world can be completed without wall jumping or flying
I made sure you don't have to "cheat"
so thats why the pipes and wires act like bridges π
pickle, contact support
if you believe he's using a client
to cheat
if its something anyone can do in the world without "cheating"
then theres nothing you can do about it
novel fog
btw, he gave a prisoner a gun and i asked him why because it was no bribe involved and he said that he gave the prisoner the gun so he could protect him from other prisoner, and that was the bribe... is that even a bribe?
viscid seal
wait, how does he give a gun?
just like picking up and giving it?
or by hacked client?
if its the former
faint skiff
That doesn't require mod team involvement to be honest. Just "being a nob" isn't a major thing. Using a modded client is.
viscid seal
your complaint is invalid
pure hemlock
Feel like I stumbled into the gmod discord
viscid seal
it's like complaining that the detective in murder keeps killing everyone
ruby needle
Please do not call out names of people here.
Please submit a moderation report ticket and make sure to include enogh and sufficient prove if someone breaks VRChats TOS.
novel fog
he is just dropping them on the ground and letting them pick it up and watching this prisoner with the gun kill other prisoners, but its a new round now and he is not guard
ok sry
viscid seal
pickle, make a new instance
faint skiff
Don't submit a moderation ticket for that, lol
viscid seal
and play with other people then xD
slim temple
that's actually part of the gameplay, yeah. @novel fog , unfortunately you need honest players to enjoy the game, and user created content is not something the vrchat team can moderate, all you can do is gather players who will play the way you expect
novel fog
yea but i mean, he is still breaking the rules... but guess he'll be gone soon
faint skiff
What happens if you block people in a game like Murder anyway? Do you just see the gun or knife floating through the air on its own? Never really thought about it before...
novel fog
thx for the help tho
viscid seal
pickle, he's breaking rules of the world
faint skiff
@novel fog Rules of the world, not the rules of VRChat...
viscid seal
not vrchat
faint skiff
@viscid seal Get out my head
novel fog
oh
viscid seal
XD message cooldown! noooo
ruby needle
ok, that... was something
novel fog
wait wrong server fuck bye
pure hemlock
Omg he thought he was in a gmod discord didnt he
viscid seal
π
ruby needle
how can one mistake the vrchat server when it even has that nice little banner up in the left
pure hemlock
@novel fog please tell us where you thought you were I must know
novel fog
nha pavlov xD
viscid seal
XD
novel fog
thx tho i guess hahahha
pure hemlock
Hehehe that's funny
viscid seal
no prob π
novel fog
omg
covert blade
@faint skiff most likely yes that's what happens. And if you cant see 'em you cant really kill them either
So if you want to do an uber deluxe troll you block the detective and kill the bystanders by throwing the knife. Should work in theory
faint skiff
lol, oh dear
covert blade
Invisible without shader π
I wouldnt really recommend doing it though, however since the website update it is very easy to unblock users again
faint skiff
You can use the social tab to unblock people
covert blade
Yeah but if they disconnect or you disconnect ect it'll become more difficult
pseudo basalt
Write down the names of everyone you see and just block/unblock through the website forehead
faint skiff
You can just use that website that parses everything and tells you everyone you've ever blocked and when, and everyone that's ever blocked you (and when)
pseudo basalt
Write a program that scrubs the output log live 
faint skiff
Apparently I've been blocked 27 times. I'm offended. I'm only even aware of one of those.
pseudo basalt
I don't see the block list in the api user dump anymore
pure hemlock
Yah I was blocked like 12 times from people I have no clue who they are and doubt I ever even interacted with. prob just didnt like me, my voice, or my avatar
sage shuttle
man thats an asshole move
errant hare
How do you recognize which of there blocks/mutes are done by you and which ones are done by other ppl muting/blocking you? I see some don't have those icons on the left side, is that it?
faint skiff
On the site I was using, it was two separate lists
near oriole
...
errant hare
I used vrchat.com and it only appears to have one list
molten gale
How do you uh, make everything the same brightness
Because lights are a pain in the ass
And I just want the entire room have the same amount of light
vocal shard
hello?
slow halo
@vocal shard hi there
vocal shard
oh hi
frigid fox
rigid leaf
?
steady kayak
recommended puzzle worlds for new vrchat players? (have a friend from japan over who really likes vrchat already)
finite geyser
so when i open VR Chat it says that i need to log into Steam or VR Chat. but it wont let me press any of the buttons. what do i do?
topaz lynx
I'm really worried about this but, do you guys think VRChat might block Oculus Link support for the Rift version of VRChat on Quest?
I really wanted to see my friends on PC worlds with PC avatars while I'm on my Quest headset!
faint skiff
Wouldn't make sense for them to, so probably not
Also you could just use VirtualDesktop anyway
vocal shard
@topaz lynx oculus isn't the ones giving them funds right?
vocal shard
Well vrchat probBlably isn't beholden to Facebook/oculus
Oculus wants to push their Facebook vr social platform thing
implying anyone wearing a vr headset is ever this socially competent lol
molten gale
So I managed to get the world fixed
So tomorrow I can fix lighting and then I can finally decorate
cold light
yo
i need help
i may have copied an avatar that cant see anything
and now i cant see shit so i cant change back
@modern sand bro please help
molten gale
Never ping a dev
modern sand
Control + \
broken plover
CTRL... the button on the bottom left of your keyboard
south hamlet
ruuubick could you help me ?
sweet nebula
This question is probably asked very often, but does anyone know how to get as close to stable 90FPS as possible? Maybe turn dynamic bones completely off and crank up the safety settings? I'd be willing to turn a lot of stuff down. The Index is kinda moot if I can't even hit 90 when I have 144 available to me...
cold light
can we call for a sec
molten gale
.....
broken plover
You can enable motion smoothing in SteamVR settings. THe game will run at 45fps and fake every 2nd frame, so you get a stable 90fps
sweet nebula
Are there any other options?
broken plover
if you dont hit 90fps in the home world with a standard avatar then no
except turning down the resolution but that istn gonna change that much
sweet nebula
I can hit 90FPS stable in small, mostly barren worlds, yes. I have a 1080Ti, 2700x, and 32GB of RAM. Surely something must be workable here.
broken plover
what, you dont hit 90fps with a 1080Ti? That seems strange
sweet nebula
Confusingly, I can get 90FPS stable in The Pug with no people present, but even when maxing out all safety settings and even going into panic mode to turn everyone into robots, I still take a massive performance hit unless I'm alone.
broken plover
it seems kind of weird to me. Maybe your gpu or cpu isnt cool enough, and clocks down to not overheat
cold light
Thanks @modern sand β€
sweet nebula
It shouldn't be. The GPU is a founder's edition at stock clocks, the CPU is running stock as well. Temps seem to be within normal operating temperatures when monitored through HWMonitor.
VRChat is the only game which gives me these issues.
hollow sluice
lmao I barely hit 30 fps when I play with my friends lol
broken plover
do you have any cpu intensive programs running? if not then idk what else could be the problem... your pc looks powerful enough to run vrchat at stable 90fps even with avatars loaded
stiff sparrow
30fpsChat
sweet nebula
I can somewhat(?) understand why a performance hit would occur with unoptimized avatars, but when everyone has their avatar disabled, thats puzzling to me.
Nope. In fact, when I check CPU usage during VRChat, its utilizing 25% or so at most.
hollow sluice
Mhm
I dont think vrcaht is using all of your cores than
something must be blocking it
sweet nebula
Tends to spread 20% or so across all cores.
But I've never had any of them approach maxing out while the game is running. Not even 50-60%, even. Tends to stay below 30%. Same with the GPU.
hollow sluice
I just realized I was using my slower ram slots on my motherboard
but I can at least say its not my fault
stiff sparrow
or is it
hollow breach
π€
sterile ingot
Just got my Vive trackers and set them up. This is going to be a relatively long work day for me. π
lunar shell
Awesome! Full immersion.
sterile ingot
So I can shyly wander around some more π
lunar shell
I literally dance all night. It's been so much better for me vs sitting on a PS4 all night.
sterile ingot
I should do karaoke <_<
toxic marsh
theres a person called @glass tiger he is still new and he might want to learn about avatars so please help him if he asks
vestal pier
Thanks for the warning?
toxic marsh
its not a warning its just a heads up
vestal pier
That, thanks for that too.
toxic marsh
ur welcome
vast tulip
turning off dynamic bone is a great start (I have a custom setting on mine to block any dynamic bones over 16 and any that have any colliders)
huh
I was replying to a really old message I guess
covert blade
Well done
vast tulip
oh I guess it wasnt that old. but, it looked like the newest message
covert blade
D-bone limiter: Off
Safety: Off
Perf. limiter: Off
Embrace the chaos
Also realize that even if everything was turned on my frames still shit themselves sometimes at random
Like I dunno if it is a side effect of the V-Sync but sometimes in Murder it just drops down to 15 FPS with everything turned off as far as possible
analog hull
Ahm, i stop playing vrc for some months, come back and i had to reset the password, i deduce someone stole the account or something, now i came back to check it, its clean on all the avatars, worlds, friendslist... is there any comeback from this?
covert blade
Dont think there is. I recommend using 2FA in the future
analog hull
Γ§_Γ§
mighty cradle
anyone want the pad?
glass hill
ello, can anyone recommend any must see worlds for VR chat. like games, or chat rooms, or skins, or just beutiful anything at all! any faves or maps you have created i can go check out!
lunar cedar
murder and black cat
glass hill
Thx
vocal shard
me: tries to talk in vrchat
everyone else in the lobby: 
mighty cradle
i think you're biased, jak π
lunar cedar
well ofc recommendations have bias
mighty cradle
nvm, misread jar
stiff sparrow
jar
vocal shard
Where do I look for commissioning a model.?
brisk bone
Check #community-servers-old and look for VRCTraders.
livid lake
How do I get custom avatars
queen lark
Why doesn't VRC use the thumb sticks on mixed reality? Is there a setting for MR controllers? Every time I try to walk around I end up pointing finger guns at everyone.
lunar cedar
Prett sure Microsoft says that some people find thumbstick movement to be "disorienting" and recommended against it as a default. You can rebind it steamvr controller bindings.
Someone has probably made their profile public that does that, but if you want other non-default settings you can just make your own bindings
queen lark
Ah right. That's disappointing. I'll try that later. Thanks.
lunar cedar
It is, I hate touchpad movement too lol
lunar cedar
Your ping isn't 1ms to the internet.
still lark
It's a social game, anything below 500 ms isn't really gonna matter.
lunar cedar
At 150ms ping, playing murder can be interesting. It seems like the local collision was removed from 3 and it's back to ultra laggy server collision.
Gotta predict a second or two into the future to aim and knife people
sage shuttle
predicate these nuts
lunar cedar
ninja'd
true sky
if you are in VR, just throwing the knife most likely hits someone >:)
lunar cedar
maybe if your internet is good
true sky
π€· good internet and still wont hit someone on bad internet
i am guessing as its done client side
lunar cedar
It was changed to client-side when murder 3 came out. However, I'm pretty sure that got reverted when cheaters found that they could just teleport everywhere even just locally and win
still lark
I mean, use your voice. :P
ruby needle
I... Mean vocal interrupting.
still lark
ohh
still lark
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
somber tapir
the best avatar world?
rare dust
mine 
sacred gulch
i need help with my world and i dont have permission to post yet
wheat hornet
What rank are you because it depends on your rank I believe
rare dust
Youβll get permission eventually my guy
wheat hornet
Alright, you should be able to anyway - strange if not
stray temple
My friends trying to do something seems like.
https://twitter.com/pichikyo/status/1177276919915503616?s=19
covert blade
@lunar cedar Really?
It's back to having to hit them with the knife on their screen, which is hard to predict due to delay?
I guess no more killing everyone with a knife before they even know you're there
lunar cedar
Yea, first I played a played one match as detective and chalked up my misses to being tired. Then when I was killer and walking inside of people without killing them, I realized it must've regressed to the old style.
covert blade
I mean, you could die before you even saw that he touched you but at least using weapons wasnt tedious
Some players are unkillable due to delay
lunar cedar
Yea, both states of the game aren't optimal.
subtle trout
Stop talking about optimization when you dont even program the software behind the platform. That is nothing but speculation; not fact. This is meant to be used and made by the player, so you have to deal with what is and isnt viable to all degrees. Stop blaming the platform, and blame the poor programming skills of the people who dont know what they're doing.
Just for the love of VR STOP COMPLAINING.
subtle salmon
π€·
subtle trout
Everytime I come onto this specific chat channel, people complain about the platform. I am sick of seeing it.
subtle salmon
Seemed to me more like idle musing on the state of things rather than outright bitter complaints. Perhaps I need to scroll up further..
umbral reef
Please educate us on what system is shitty programmed then @subtle trout
Because oddly enough, the game runs smooth as shit when im in 20+ user room with medium + avatars while in vr without a problem π€
Ofcours i dont stand infront of a mirror to render the things 'twice'
And for sure, the core game runs less smooth then years ago but the game is also around 3 times the systems and options.
delicate furnace
Is there a way to show a program or desktop screen in VR?
umbral reef
To share with others? There is no way to do that right now.
delicate furnace
No, I meant locally.
I was just thinking that it'd be neat to use VRChat as a coffee house, so you can have some vague socialisation whilst also working.
umbral reef
What platform do you use? With steam Vr you can directly pull up your desktop screen.
Unsure about the others
delicate furnace
I use Steam VR, but the desktop view isn't amazing, I wouldn't be able to program on it, I don't think.
umbral reef
I want to ask, why do you want to be in VR while working on a desktop in the end anyway?
Cant you just throw Vrchat in desktop mode and work properly on your pc
nocturne phoenix
blasphemy
delicate furnace
That's what I'm doing now, but I was just curious about whether that's something people have already thought of.
indigo fern
i mean, there are things like OVR Toolkit on steam
delicate furnace
Plus, the desktop mode is really clunky comparatively, sitting on a chair, I have a locked amount of visibility :<
indigo fern
you can drop in windows and desktop monitors around your view, snap it to your head or hands
delicate furnace
That's an interesting concept.
indigo fern
set transparency of the screens so you can see through into vr still
im saying thats what ovr toolkit does right now
umbral reef
Still means you need a keyboard and stuff
Vr isnt really made to program in, mainly not the overlay tools.
indigo fern
yea, youd just be in vr with your hands on the keyboard still for that type of thing
delicate furnace
Yeah, I was saying that's an interesting concept, in response to OVR Toolkit.
indigo fern
delicate furnace
I already found it, thanks!
indigo fern
π
delicate furnace
That's a really great idea, actually able to use the Steam Home for stuff.
covert blade
@subtle trout 
I have no idea who that was directed towards because I dont see anyone complaining about optimization
subtle salmon
Perhaps it was something way up in the buffer and their scroll was stuck, was rather confusing on its own.
nocturne phoenix
noone complained about optimization, they discussed how it affected the murder game
delicate furnace
I've seen Murder 3, and stood on a circle to play a couple of times, but it's never moved me.
Just gives me some text saying what I am.
So I'm just left alone, on the ship ;_;
subtle salmon
hmmph, well, that is definitely odd! Have you tried the other murder iterations - do they work?
umbral reef
Also make sure your avatar isnt the fault
subtle salmon
Or, have you tried it with a different avatar selected. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is an avatar that is preventing movement with animation keyed to the root or something odd like that.
still lark
Colliders n stuff will mess up Murder.
lunar cedar
I think he saw "game" and "optimal" in my one comment and made a lot of assumptions about the conversation lol. Neither was referring to vrchat nor optimizations
covert blade
@delicate furnace use a different circle
Avatar seats and switching avatars will break it
covert blade
Does the circle light up?
hushed sand
If I pick up an object in desktop mode then how do I change the angle of the thing I'm holding? Is there even a key for that or do I have no choice but to slide it against other surfaces and drop it at the right time to get the angle I want?
faint skiff
You can't. You can only rotate things on desktop if you're using a controller.
hushed sand
Oh.
nocturne phoenix
Can you define controller?
molten gale
A... controller
nocturne phoenix
Does it have to be a VR compatible controller or can it be an Xbox controller fx
faint skiff
A gamepad, e.g. XBox 360 controller.
nocturne phoenix
So basically all you need is a joystick
I might just play VRChat with my controller then, sounds easier
molten gale
Im using icosahedron as lamp
nocturne phoenix
I would make a world to stash avatars into tbh but Iβm still a visitor so I canβt
molten gale
Stash avatars?
faint skiff
Well personal avatars are always available from the menu anyway. Having an avatar world is typically needed if you want people to be able to easily get to your public avatars.
That reminds me, I've got half a dozen or so public avatars, I should probably create an avatar world before I do any more.
nocturne phoenix
Yes but like make it my home, so I can pick an avatar before heading into the chaos
Iβm thinking a long corridor with avatars and then a portal at the end
Itβs easier to just walk through all your avatars instead of looking for them in your menu
faint skiff
Hmm
covert blade
I'd argue it's easier to do it from the menu rather than having to rely going to your world if you want to change
molten gale
I just make a hangout space for me and friends
covert blade
- you can keep your avatars private so people can't force clone it from you
nocturne phoenix
Oh no of course if you want to change then you know what to change into
And then itβs easier from the menu
faint skiff
My issue is I like outdoor spaces, and lightmaps are huge for outdoor spaces π¦
nocturne phoenix
But if you donβt know what to use then itβs easier to walk through all your avatars
faint skiff
So my world that doesn't have too much in it is still near 100MB mainly due to lightmaps
covert blade
Eh, not really. You still see the same preview image whether it's in a world or from the menu, unless you have the model of the avatar in your avatar world next to it
nocturne phoenix
Yea thatβs what Iβm thinking
A model right next to the actual change
Full scale model
Your menu doesnβt show avatars to scale
faint skiff
I forget that you can actually do that, yeah that would be cool. The world would probably be pretty big though.
nocturne phoenix
Doesnβt really matter as itβs a 1 time download (per cache clear)
Speaking of I needa clear my cache soon
Itβs already at 20GB
faint skiff
It almost always starts malfunctioning at 20GB doesn't it?
nocturne phoenix
I crash quite a lot
If thatβs where youβre going with that question
I just donβt wanna redownload all the maps
But I pretty much have to at this point
clever escarp
Does anybody play / know how to play VRchat on Mac? I'm reading on it and it seems mixed at best...
covert blade
I dont think it officially supports it
clever escarp
Ah, alright, thanks for replying.
native eagle
I cant believe some dumb chat program (vrchat) is making me spend hours learning blender, all so I can turn my fav avatar, the possum lady, into a boy
covert blade
How's it dumb though?
faint skiff
"The possum lady"?
native eagle
I'm really not the ideal demographic. Married with a kid, so no thirst and minimal starving of human interaction in real life
umbral reef
There are plenty of people like you, most of the mature people hideout in private groups though to not get mixed with the less mature ones though
faint skiff
Ahh
native eagle
Yeah, I haven't played long enough to find many of those people yet though
Yeah, I haven't played long enough to find many of those people yet though
Still gotta wade through the sea of anime tiddes and lolis
faint skiff
There are some of us in the 30+ range, not that many though it seems.
native eagle
I should get my wife hooked on vrchat, then we can get a quest
covert blade
Considering how many PC users are around with non quest avatars, I'm not sure that the Quest is really a good option for VRChat
still lark
What about the Quest link stuff Mason?
covert blade
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
umbral reef
Then you need a proper PC first
native eagle
Oh, I would probably do that thing where you connect a quest to a pc and run it through that
umbral reef
And then you can only play VRchat while linked and not without as your throw outside of your friends group then really
covert blade
If you plan on doing that anyways, then consider buying a proper PCVR headset
tacit plank
If you can't affort a oculus or vive, you probably don't have computer that can render regular avatars and worlds
tawny ore
I use a Rift S with my Samsung fridge
umbral reef
Well the Rift S is pointless now unless your a circle jerker
tacit plank
Mostly because VRChat creators are horrible. But that's what you get with usermade content
covert blade
Do you even know through how much effort avatar creators have to go to make quest compatible avatars, caffeine?
For something that usually only has minimal benefits.
cloud mica
whats a good starter vr setup?
native eagle
Built my gaming computer for 900 like 3 years ago. Bought a wmr setup for 150 this summer and been loving it
Really dont know why people poop on wmr so much, it's got waaay more value per dollar
tacit plank
Quest comparible avatars are difficult, especially converting regular avatars to them. But the reason that even a 1060 isn't considered enough for VRC is because some asshole will add 500 bones worth of skirt and tains to their frankenstein foxgirls
covert blade
Isn't WMR being discontinued?
native eagle
No, it's in between generations. Hp just released the reverb which is like gen 1.5
faint skiff
Second hand Vive is a good setup and should be super cheap these days.
It also gives you a cheaper upgrade path to Index if you want to go that route.
tacit plank
And FBT
faint skiff
That too
covert blade
Yes some people go over the top with their avatars, but generally speaking it is still difficult to make anything for the quest.
native eagle
I got my wmr setup for 150. Microcenter has brand new for 135 in store
tacit plank
I suppose it is
covert blade
That, and it usually only has minimal benefits. Most worlds are PC only as well, but depending on where you go with your avatar it might be entirely useless to even consider Quest compatibility.
tacit plank
Lol my vive was 845$, FBT another 400, the computer itself is around 2500$ (not counting monitor, mouse, keyboard, secondary headset and mic)
faint skiff
You can buy a second hand Vive kit on eBay for like Β£250 now
tacit plank
..But I get paid to study, so it's not like I can complain
covert blade
My current main avatar is 
but also not quest compatible
native eagle
I'm looking at upgrading my video card for like 180 because I'm below the minimum reqs, although i really only notice in skyrimvr and no mans sky, got a 970 atm
covert blade
Too demanding for the Quest and the avatar creator couldn't be bothered to fix it.
tacit plank
For quest you need low poly and a smart atlas and afaik 0 dynamic bones
covert blade
Yup. That avatar doesn't have Dynamic Bones but around 40k polys
faint skiff
Atlasing is the easiest part, getting the poly count down (if you also need to decimate the face) is the hard part.
native eagle
Hard to justify computer upgrades when you're spending 50 a week on baby formula
tacit plank
Pretty avatars at 10k polygons is hard
faint skiff
I've managed to get some of mine pretty good, but it's hard and still requires a lot of sacrifice.
The more elaborate the texturing, the better it looks most of the time, simply due to it hiding the low poly count.
covert blade
That's likely why even don't have Quest support. In my case, the avatar creator would have to cut down 75% of all the polys on the avatar.
Meanwhile it is pretty much lightweight on PC as it is very well optimized with as few mat slots as possible, no dynamic bones or particles ect
faint skiff
All my avatars (bar a few exceptions) would be Good or Excellent if it wasn't for the dynamic bones (which I keep to 32 or below - knocking me to Medium).
native eagle
What's a dynamic bone
covert blade
Parts that are affected by gravity
still lark
Physics*
covert blade
Like hair
faint skiff
and have inertia
native eagle
Is that like a redhead girlfriend
faint skiff
Hair, tails, wings, etc.
native eagle
Ah
faint skiff
It's so you're not just a static block basically.
still lark
the round objects on a women's chest.
native eagle
Ok, what's a sculpt key
faint skiff
Do you mean a shape-key?
native eagle
Because I was having trouble sculpting, where the sculpt wouldn't show up until after leaving sculpt, and some website said to delete the sculpt keys
Yeah
faint skiff
Think of shapekeys as "arrangements" of the mesh. You can then save those different arrangements and switch between them (or blend between them).
They're used for mouth movement for example, so you'd create a default shape key (called "Basis") of your avatar in their stock position. You'd then create a new shape key and change the mouth to a different pose, for example an O shape and save that for the "OH" mouth movement.
You can also use the same thing to design facial expressions, etc.
native eagle
Well shoot that makes way more sense than anything I read when googling what a shape key way
faint skiff
You can then use those shape keys in Unity when you want to either create gestures, animations, etc. Basically anything that involves changing the mesh of your avatar will use them.
But yeah, the downside is that you can't decimate a mesh if it has shape keys (decimating is cutting down the amount of tris a model has) so you end up having to remake them afterwards which can be a lot of work depending on A) how many you had and B) how complicated they were.
native eagle
Coming from an engineering cad modeling background to this blender stuff is totally different. The only thing in common is xyz axes lol
faint skiff
It's because it's modelling + animation I guess. Think of shapekeys as like animation keyframes for a model.
native eagle
I'll have to play around more then before I just start deleting stuff
faint skiff
Yeah, also never delete stuff. It's a quick way to break things. If you delete bones, chances are you'll end up with unweighted mesh. If you delete tris, you could end up damaging a shape-key which in turn will cause that key to catastrophically malfunction and just explode when you try and use it, etc. You have to be so careful. Also save (TO A NEW SAVE) constantly.
native eagle
This is way harder than engineering cad
faint skiff
Yeah, it's a lot more capable, but that also means a lot more options and an exponentially more complicated interface.
vocal shard
is it me or is the safety kinda broken
faint skiff
Fun example of auto-decimation btw - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361742235525709825/604039734351757382/unknown.png
subtle salmon
It's been really fun getting back into low poly modelling for quest. As an exercise, at the very least. Haven't really had to do it hardcore since doing stuff for quake/hl1 days. And normal maps can make up for a lot
native eagle
That sounds way cooler than it is
patent haven
Gamers
Can someone help me out
Realistic pros and cons of rift s for someone with a budget who doesnβt mind not having full body yet
DM me please
faint skiff
Pros and Cons of it in what context? Compared to an Index, or what?
patent haven
In reasonable terms like quality and compatiblity
I donβt need anything insane
I just wanna move my hands and hangout in VRChat
faint skiff
Compatibility is the same. It's just the headset isn't as comfy, is lower res, has terrible audio so you'll want your own headphones, etc.
faint skiff
Sure, but it's nice not having to have to use headphones at all π
patent haven
Resolution strain eyes or do I really have to try to see it
For someone who has never owned VR
faint skiff
No, resolution is fine, it's just not as good as the higher end ones.
If you're not interested in FBT then the Rift S would be fine.
patent haven
Guess thatβs what 400 gets me
faint skiff
Basically.
patent haven
Canβt complain really
Better than spending 1,000 bucks
I want to be more knowledgeable before I do that
faint skiff
Depends. If you want better, it costs more. Though you can always sell the thing if you want to buy another.
patent haven
True
vocal shard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB05VmuPXy0
Go check out a fullbody dance <3
great friend off mine
Hope u enjoy
faint skiff
Because it's the worst experience
native eagle
What makes it so bad
faint skiff
VR pretty much directly translates to - costs more = better hardware (the only exception being HTC overcharging)
Inferior screens, tracking, janky environment, etc. There's a reason it's cheaper.
native eagle
Inferior screen? Last I checked it was better than og vive
rough pulsar
WMR has higher res screens than the og vive, but worse lenses and tracking and lower FOV
faint skiff
Well you said "it's only 150" so I'm curious which WMR headset has great screens at that price...
native eagle
The various wmr sets go on sale around 150 all the time. Microcenter has had the hp on for that price for a couple months now
faint skiff
I mean there are a lot of different headsets and they are all completely different specs. You'll need to be more specific to be honest. You said 150 so I compared the current main headsets to a 150 headset. Also I wasn't comparing to the OG Vive, it's over 4 years old at this point and end of life...
I only recommend it to people if they can get it cheap second hand, because that means they have base stations if you want to get a cheaper upgrade route to the Index and FBT.
native eagle
I dont know, I've had nothing but a fantastic experience with my dell wmr. Maybe I need to try a vive or something for comparison
rough pulsar
I started with a Vive, got given an Acer WMR which I used when out (VR laptop yay) and was honestly surprised how it wasn't entirely awful.
So I'd say if you're experience with WMR is positive then anything else will be great too.
native eagle
The biggest trouble I've had with mine is when playing climbey where you have to climb monkey bars and one controller is out of view for a while. Also you need a lit room. But as far as untracked controller movement goes, standing in front of a vrchat mirror I get about 5 or 6 seconds of really good out of view tracking before it stops
winged thistle
well then, time to fuck everything up again by installing openvr advanced settings
even though I really only need it to reduce the distance at which the chaperone shows
faint skiff
oVRAS should work fine, it's input emulator that fucks up SteamVR.
vocal shard
It's it just me or are public worlds getting even more unplayable
Either have frames but everyone is a greyboi or get 15fps
It's like nobody gave a rats butt ebout the avatar rating update
indigo fern
Can you not post that in multiple channels
gusty adder
Figured it would help for people that only check a few, and the content still applied to basically any of them and would've been appropriate asking in any of them.
indigo fern
π€· rule 15, appropriate or not they don't like it
gusty adder
mk
faint skiff
@vocal shard I tried hiding all very poor avatars and ended up in rooms almost entirely populated by robots on most occasions, it's unfortunate.
slender estuary
hey everyone, just a general data collection thing but, what rank are you. and what safety do you have? e.g. I'm User and block Visitor, and allow everything else for every other rank
indigo fern
Trusted and I have my settings off πͺ 
slender estuary
nice, do you not find Visitors spamming 'sicko mode' ones annoying though?
indigo fern
I do, but I've been around for a little bit and unless it's too over bearing I don't mind it
slender estuary
yeah
indigo fern
I can manually hide people still, so it's fine
faint skiff
Visitors have only avatar and voice permissions. Friends have all permissions. All other ranks have full permission except for custom animations.
slender estuary
true
so with custom animations, is that including like a spiderman taking his mask off?
indigo fern
Yea, all gestures
slender estuary
ah
indigo fern
And emotes too
faint skiff
If someone seems nice and I haven't friended them yet, I'll manually show them.
slender estuary
yeah
faint skiff
I spend a lot of time in busy public's so either shaders or anims needed to be off, and most avatars need shaders on to look right, so that's the decision there.
ivory axle
Waddup gamers
rare dust
Gammer time
stiff sparrow
send the hacks
covert blade
That's why I keep shaders on
Some avatars simply are more annoying with 'em off
But I also dont want to show all
rancid crow
HEYO
covert blade
Hi
vocal shard
hi
vocal shard
ho
vocal shard
π 
slate verge
c:
near sky
c:
vocal shard
:>
near sky
:}
vocal shard
: )
vocal shard
why cry?
brazen zephyr
my vrc keeps crashing does anyone know why
its not crashers
im playing and randomly it closes
frigid bridge
Yo this twitchcon world has good graphics and fps ππ
brazen zephyr
any help would be nice
flint stirrup
How much ram are you using for vrc?
molten gale
Yes
molten gale
Use [Yes] ram for vrchat
brazen zephyr
i even plkay vr with it
fluid bloom
you dont say
brazen zephyr
and now its like reeee
desert stratus
@brazen zephyr does it just close or freeze for a bit? When things like this happen its usually either rooted in
a > recent updates / changes to anything on your system or the game OR
b > your pc is finally kicking the bucket
lets hope for A and say that maybe you or something updated recenyly
brazen zephyr
hey solar
desert stratus
hii >u< fix ur pc nerd i havent seen u in vrc in a while
fluid bloom
π€¦
brazen zephyr
no im playing it and it just closes
errant hare
wow rood
fluid bloom
well atleast you didnt accidentally join a wedding server
brazen zephyr
like wtf bro ... its weird
desert stratus
fuckin weird. when did this start? did you or your pc update or do anything significant before it started?
brazen zephyr
im gonna call u becuase of thhe slow mode
vocal shard
hello
i'm having a hard time remembering if something happened in a dream, or in vrchat
Lol, I've had that
the twisted thing is that one is more real than the other, but one feels more real than the other
How long have you been using VR?
coral oak
lmao i just met a hacker. He crashed the server cuz i called him out
covert blade
Script kiddy or just a crasher?
coral oak
welp still.
Problem was he was ruining the game of murder for others, including me and when i called him out on his BS he crashed the server.
covert blade
Block him, have recording software running
faint skiff
Classic. What's worse is they never really get banned as it's almost impossible to collect evidence.
covert blade
Then you can report him with a high chance that he gets banned. Eventually they'll get bored
Or that..
coral oak
Sadly he crashed it. So i dont have his name. It was some odd name.
slow halo
it'll be in your logs apparently
covert blade
Output logs my friend
coral oak
He had special characters on his name that formed a gun of some sort.
Oh it will? Where? Im dumb xd
covert blade
Aw shit I know that fucker
coral oak
You do?
coral oak
I reported him for avatar. I didn't know what else to do. There isnt really a cheat option.
covert blade
Harassment
lunar cedar
Hey, scythes are cool. He ruins them by using them.
coral oak
SO you guys said something about logs?
covert blade
Apparently the mod team doesnt think that someone being floating or stuck in the floor with the hitbox is suspicious at all
- already has the first level of "troll"
But good thing blocks exist. Should make it a lil harder to kill me in murder
- I dont have to witness his nonsense
faint skiff
Floating can technically be achieved legally on a character so that's probably why they don't care about those.
coral oak
I found him-
faint skiff
Also you can float or clip through stuff with full body too.
covert blade
The hitbox and nametag would stay in that case
coral oak
This guy wasnt in vr.
covert blade
His hitbox and nametag moved
coral oak
But i managed to find him again-
covert blade
I mean what am I supposed to do? Have OBS running 24/7?
faint skiff
Not always, it's a bit weird. My nametag sometimes moves, sometimes doesn't, it's a bit weird. But yeah if they were on desktop then definitely a dodgy client.
coral oak
Theres no way he was in vr. His avatar was all stiff. 24/7
Besides the way he was moving, clearly pc controls.
covert blade
See the moderators dont even bother observing him even though he has probably been blocked and reported a bunch
coral oak
I wouldnt even be able to contact someone
Because i most likely will be told "No evidence"
molten gale
Oh that fuck
covert blade
Yes
molten gale
Seen them in murder 2
covert blade
I like how he's known around here but not banned
molten gale
I also reported him
molten gale
And blocked too
covert blade
Apparently we are all not convincing enough
molten gale
Eh whatevs
covert blade
Inb4 gets force kicked because of the block
molten gale
im tired now, I made a world today so im pretty exhausted
coral oak
Idk. He was ruining a fun game of murder. We had some nice random people. He crashed the server after i called him out.
covert blade
Cant do more than block & report
coral oak
Nope
covert blade
Luckily people like him dont seem to be all that common
severe pier
??????
covert blade
Meanwhile I've also seen someone with a modded client just using it to showcase the like 200+ avatars he has fav'd on a flat world
@severe pier ????
severe pier
???
faint skiff
Yeah, there's a mod that lets you just pick any uploaded avatar to use, which I don't too much as it says it doesn't allow private avatars, but I'm wondering if there's another version that does because someone else said they can change to private ones too...