#vrchat-general-2
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huzzah
\o/ does everyone here have a favourite avatar they like to be as in particular, just out of curiosity? memey stuff? cute anime stufff? animals?
h e w w o o o
xjggxjjxgxjg ur good dwdw
ily
I enjoy an avi I found that is essentially just a bipedal cat in a blue hoodie
Simple, yet adorable.
:>
ooo cute, any cat or dog avatar is definitely best
i found a cat anime girl that was pink and small TTwTT i am in love with it, to say the least
In terms of public avatars my favourite is probably this cute older female Rimuru from that reborn as a slime show
also my usual avatar is the char in my icon that i made
ooooh great choice :3
I still haven't watched that, @pure hemlock
also 👀
It's an okayish anime but I like the character a lot
sigh kinda fed up with this dossing bs
am tempted to get on rn and go poach more avatars, i need more favourite spots! :'<
I'm just happy we get more MHA this october.
16 sounds like a decent number but in practice it's really not gxxgj
!online
There are 7834 users in VRChat currently
i can only fit so many dogs in my pocket
understandable
solution: more pockets
oh definitely i was like, oh 16! decent amount ill be fine
then
i kept increasing
barely day two and its full TT_TT
omg right? it hurts my weeby soul
oof
me: i have no space
also me: get more avatars
oh what a mood
Lol, time to learn how to import them yourself.
excuse me w0t
Google your favourite anime avatar mmd model -> Process it via CATS Blender plugin -> Throw into unity and spice it up with some shaders and dynamic bones -> Success
no 16 slot limit for uploading them yourself
oh what the heck, i dont even know what any of that even is
mmd models scare me so i just upload my own
Then after awhile you can open up your own avatar world so you become the most superior elite member of vrchat and have a nice ego trip
Teach me your ways, sensei
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
id love something more in depth in dms, if anyone is willing to explain more? :o
i would love to make a world for my worm on a string avatars but i never made a world before so that's gonna wait
First you must learn to wax on wax off
Y’all should be alseep
It's 9am for me.
its only 12am :3
LOL timezones be like
11am for me, I am at work totally working
australia for me :3
in class on my phone like a dumbass
I believe you.
Yeah it's like 3:58 PM for me. I really should be asleep
kek
bro i wish
I do wish I was asleep though not going to lie
big mood- aw what
I had 4 months off here
australian noises
german thing called Abitur noises
VRChat gonna be empty this week
LMAOOOO
due to all be at twitchcon
I have a month and a half off in Nov/Dec due to surgery.... so .. yay?
@vocal shard no that's Austria
I've had almost 10 years off from school.
Twitchcon = Dead/Quiet VRChat 😦
I know that surgery time off feeling. Just got out of the hospital August 5th
in australia we have kangaroo jack and koalas and upside down people
Ugh, I forgot about TwitchCon
and wow imagine that life, shark, kek
Yah those feels when like 75% of your vrc friend group is meeting up at twitchcon and im sitting here too poor like... 😦
explain to me what kek means im old
i always forget that cons are, in fact, a thing
well that's not as funny as I thought it would be
make it something funnier in ur head
kek
Nah, my friends don't have an interest in that either. They're all mostly offline for work or vacation.
meh
isn't vrchat like dying rn anyway
I think so.
rad
but they make the kekekekekek nosies
is VRChat dying?
league of legends kek noises
I hope so lol
After what happened yesterday? Would seem likely.
wait what happened yesterday
Blackouts.
For me it just feels like all the cancer people who came here via YouTubers to repeat the same meme over and over FINALLY lost interest and left
DDOS attacks
Game was down for like 4 or 5 hours last night due to ddos attacks
o
wait still??
lol I have never heard of a game that died just because of a 1-day DDoS attack
could that be why my friends earlier were struggling to load in a lot perhaps???
It was up this morning though for me, or at least I was still in the private world I passed out in with my bf
Watch this be the first one
damn
Yh i wudnt say its dying
probably because nobody who said the game was dead was being serious lol
That's the exact reason, rose
oooh i see
VRChat is VERY unstable rn can't do anything
Yep
good thing i can't get on yet
yeah i noticed :^) i was falling through worlds left right and center
bc then id get annoyed
Ooh, rip
guess y'all are gonna have to go outside
more then you probably should in the first place
@steep turret what's the outside :^)
id rather paly cuphead instead of go outside
a dark place oclac
oh damn oclac know whats up
ew there's too much nature out the
Haven't been on for a week and then hubby's coming for a visit today. 🤔
When VRC is down, just get in the fetal position and rock yourself back and fourth until it's back up
there
oh snap have fun pon
Or scream angrly at the team in this discord
the doggies and kitties come to me from nature
I actually can't go outside for very long. XD
going out in 2019
tru
I have to mow my lawn today u__u eugh
Dude, I'm gonna heckin take a big sleep when he gets here. Been up all night cleaning the house. XD
hire someone to do it for you
Also, I came to VR chat after watching swaggersouls on youtube. But I'm also not a toxic shit, so.
@steep turret just burn it down
Saves a lot of work in the future also
I mean oclac....true
My advice is silly but it will always work 
nah i don't trust anyone else with my lawn.
Replace it with fake grass from those Easter baskets. No one will ever know the difference.
oh my god yes
xgjjgxghx
my dog would lose his shit if I did that lol
Lmao
watch me do that
😡
Do it
gimme that easter basket lawn
hella comfy
and be like all those other mums who think theyre top stuff for having a nice garden
then you rip it back slowly
while they watch you
wishing for your demise
People would be so confused
Wait Mr taco you have a doggo?
Now you have to share a photo with us
^
Obligatory
It doesn't look like VRChat is dying AT ALL tbh
https://i.imgur.com/fqEfBoD.png
yfsyxfdugdgudgu
uhhhh I don't have any pics I think. too lazy to look. he's an all black shepherd tho
Felix, it was a joke. c:
yeah chillax my guy
Sorry, sarcasm is super hard to translate. :(
probably because you have a bad sense of humor. or....a good sense? meh
I get sarcasm but I don't get the joke behind it
😅
No, I get that it's supposed to be a joke and ironic but I don't understand what's so funny about it
anyway oclac my wife probably has a pic of our puppers
I mean, nobody laughed at it anyway so
Well next time she is in chat I'll ask her
f
Like, it'd be funny if you said that Shakes and Fidget is exploding right now or that LoL is dying
Because after the whole vket thing and the sponsors, VRC immediately kicks the bucket; haha hehe, funny joke? Idk if that's funny now that I've explained it.
But there's nothing special about VRChat. It's just a bit toooo random for me
Oooh, that's why
!online
There are 8093 users in VRChat currently
Still 8000+ people online and i can't move or do anything
no clue what those things even are not including lol
A lot more understandable 😄
What a bad joke wow i cant believe youve done this
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
same
HA!
that's like hell for vrchat players
im gonna head off to bed now my new friendos! it was lovely meeting you all, have a nice day ! :D
I still just don't get the appeal of standing in front of them while having a conversation.
Can't stare at yourself in the mirror anymore. You deserve it 
Night-night, rose
Oh jesus, I didn't want to be that sadistic to you
You can have your mirror back, I'm sorry. That was too much
I'll bounce as well. gotta do some dishes. have fun y'all.
The appeal is that direct eye contact with other people even in vr is scary so i can just stare at my pretty self instead and admire my avatar and ignore half of what people are saying
EW...
Like, my own home world has no mirror
What are you, some kind of normally socialized person? Get off vrchat
😭
You're right, I don't belong on a virtual chatting platform. I should go talk to people in the real world.
Yah, let us awkward degenerates have our own space. Off with you!
yeets away
It's a risk I'm going to have to take!
@pure hemlock. But without people like that you will never find new qties to talk with
You could like ... mispronounce a word or something! Rethink your decision! Real life is dangerous
If everyone is too scared to talk no one will have friend groups
Hey, I had plenty of mute friends as a mute back in 2017. Mute life is possible and actually the elite way of playing.
I've already walked out the door, Felix. I can't come back. ;-;
I cant even talk to myself when I rage at a game because I f up some words and then get even more angry
@glad bolt the window is still open
Climb back that way
@umbral reef haha you should watch cyber security students. They're ALL super socially awkward. Everyone just silently sits alone while the tutors try to socialize all of them but no one actually wants to meet new people IRL
They're like "Yo you got Discord?" - "Hell yeah" - "Let's go talk there instead of here in RL"
I'll jump through the window when I come back. I just got wicked tired all of a sudden, omg
I do healthcare engineering so it's the exact opposite of that
Everyone is wayy to strong socially what means the teachers struggle against us
Felix that sounds like me when I was a teenager so much
Why talk IRL when you can talk on MSN Messenger?!
Instead of hanging out after school, lets just have a group chat on msn for 3 hours
Yeeeees
You guys really need to find an extrovert that just kidnaps you and takes you under there wing
That's mainly me
I wish it was that easy as a socially awkward introvert
I had this girlfriend when I was 16 that pushed me out of my shell a lot to be honest. She was a super extrovert. Made me more comfortable socializing in person.
But extrovert life get boring when you want to meet cyber security people. The REAL good ones are very introverted (could just be random tho. Doesn't mean that you have to be introverted to be good). When I go out & party or do networking I meet so many people I am not looking for
I was super extroverted and my girlfriend made me introverted haha
Well mainly because she actively isolated me from my friends, family etc ...
Ya I've seen that happen before
I used to be self isolating once I found a bf/gf but I try to maintain friendships regardless of my relationship status now
i envy extroverted people...being introvert and shy makes you miss a lot of good things in life
Extroverts want to be introverts and introverts want to be extroverts lol
I know the struggle
There's pro and cons to each type of person I think. As a introverted person who maintains just a handful of relationships, I can form very deep meaningful relationships with people very easily. Something I've known some extroverts to struggle with.
Yeah, I dont have many friends but I trust all of them.
dishes are "somewhat" clean. break time. what I miss?
What Yin just said is 100% true
I'm an extroverted introvert. Meaning, I have a decently friendly personality and like being around people, I just expend an excessive amount of energy doing so.
A handful of close friends you can trust is worth A LOT more than maaany friends
oh the topic is types of people. hmm.
Oh, and I also have an obsession with cooking.
that's a tastey obsession
I've been told I'm not bad at it. One of my best dates was sitting at home, and cooking for me ex.
what is your favorite dish to make?
Noodles.
oof. yummy
And it depends on my mood, yhonestly. I can cook a bunch of different styles.
hand-made home cooked pizza nommmm
Miso ramen is the simplest if you know how to season it the right way.
thats nice,cooking is a great skill to have and its always handful
im a decent cook myself. im just lazy.
god damn why is this happening right before lunch i am so hungry
simple, and deliciously crispy
drools
I already ate, but I still have something left (I think)... But I ate alot and im full...
i have left over turkey dinner for lunch today i want it nowwwww
I think I have a pizza left to cook. hmmmmmmm
I'm probably making shrimp scampi today
oof damn lemme come over lol
okay im taking a early lunch bye bye
Later, yin. XD
And sure, I can make lunch for peeps
I'm gonna make a great house husband one day.
Lol
wish i could say the same lol
breh marry me shit I love food. my wife probably won't be okay with it but lmfao
its just bromance
Dat moment when you join someone's F+ instance and literally everyone has a purple tag, and the person you joined hardly knows you.
Me: 🏳 yeets away
Nooot even gonna read that, nope

wat D:
New pfp 
Yush
Artist was like "Why don't you use this one? It was tough as hell to put together"
"Hokai" o.o/
What did BB stand for again? Behemoth Bazongas? 😉
I can never not read Beatrice as Beat-Rice for some reason.
Curious, I wonder if that's a regional pronunciation as it would be Beeah-triss in the UK typically.
Probably.
In America it’s Bee Uh Tris
Ah that's the correct one, thank you dear ❤
does anyone happen to know what song plays in Neo-Shibuya's day version? I really like it
is that a world in vrchat
isnt it form the vr shop?
i don't know?
I havent been able to find sources on any of the music
it's a world in VRket3, yes
ddosed again?
seems fine to me
No seems stable now.
Am currently having issues again
its fine for me
There's always people having issues
^
But it's not a "everyone just got dc'd" kind of issue
Is it bad that as a person who enjoy's home cooking, I'm embarrassed to admit I'm eating a hot pocket?
no
Nah, it's fine to enjoy the quick and easy stuff, too. :)
I like cooking but sometimes I just need something easy to heat up
Right. ^^
Or the most important ingredient, mayonez
polish winary, it's the only kind^^
Glad to meet a fellow connoisseur
Yeah! ^^
Babushka makes sure you stay plump and full, okay? >o<
it's cold in russia, you need vodka, flour, semecki oil. and salt
and the the squatting can continue
ROFL, I liked his channel so much when he was just getting started. Apologies for the small sidebar
vibe check
check complete and passed.
Who do I thank for vrket. It's been super fun so far. :)
thank @inner cape
🙂
Thank him and...and that creepy smile...
stupid retarded ddos agian
😦
wha? where?!
Ya sure?
Greetings I have returned from a food coma
Greetings
wb
Nice! Food is good. nom nom
are there still slight issues with the servers?
like its fine. but just very mild. as i still can get a few random dc. mostly when im alone
There's always some slight issues here and there for some people
Could be some mild after affects from last nights attacks maybe
It happens. I am just happy the dude who was doing it to Blizzard games a few weeks ago was arrested so quickly.
it crashes a bit too often for me
you have to wait a bit, not demand
Was the ddos just last night? bc I went to bed at like 12:30 am last night (central) and the servers seem fine now.
Yea was last night 12:54 am est
Is VRC seeming stable today?
Ouch, idk whats happening but people keep emoting and my screen looks like it took a hellton of drugs. The screen shakes everything flashes rainbows really fast, the screen shrinks and grows, my eyes hurt, it makes me want to stop playing vrchat, and- imma stop there.
Im on desktop vr-chat btw
Easy fix. Go into your Safety settings, set it to "Custom", disable everything for all ranks except "Voice", "Avatar" and "Shaders"
If you struggle with performance and want to get those extra frames you can disable Shaders as well but avatars may render incorrectly when doing so. Keep Custom Animations off so no one can spawn in stuff that blocks your view.
Alright thanks, that thing i just described actually made my game crash.
Classic crashers
what?
People with avatars that have so much stuff going on that it crashes other players
ah, okay. Wait, couldn't people abuse that to try to make everyone crash in every room they go in?
That's exactly why safety settings exist.
fair enough.
It allows you to disable those features.
And 99.9% of the time those effects are triggered via custom animations so if those are off, they basically can't do anything anymore
okay then, thanks for the help!
Needs fix for those using full seven animation crap
full seven anmation what?
Assholes who can't behave around people with their awful effects...
That's no excuse for them to do that
You already have all the tools available to make it stop
Irrelevant
So what solution would you prefer instead then?
That they um... stop idiots
what was panic mode again? Both triggers, grips and menu buttons? i always forget how to activate it when I need it and when I just do some random stuff with my controllers I activate it by accident
its not something you can solve, bad people exist everywhere
Hey smartbrains we're talkin' 'bout humanity here. There's always going to be idiots.
i think it's just both triggers and menus
I know
just triggers and menus, not grips
I never said anything else
Don't take it too personal but you can't fix bad people.
That's why Safety Settings, Panic Mode, Hide Avatar and Block exist
I know this, but then I miss out on other stuff so I wont do it to everyone all the time just because of assholes
Is there not a cap to how much someone can use on an emote/avatar?
Then you make friends or do Show Avatar if someone wants to show you something
Or you embrace the chaos and use panic mode if it gets too intense
no that's horrible, I wanna see people. I hide avatars if they dont stop.
@wanton pier On some specific things yet but those dont get abused as much
Like you can go full on no safety and use panic mode when something bad happens to make it stop at an instant
Or you are lucky enough to find the jackass doing it so you can hide him
You got the tradeoff in security (not crashing/lagging) V Being able to see things
"Panic" mode only works temporarily if you dont know who it is
Whats panic mode?
It hides and mutes everything
disabled everything for everyone but friends-
If you want people to make new things, be creative and ect you risk a lot of 'things'
If you turn everything off you dont see the cool things but are 'safe'
I forget the button combo anyway
Shift + ESC
Or in VR, both menu buttons + triggers
For me, it depends. Sometimes I don't feel like seeing flashy effects and other times I embrace the chaos and dont use safety at all
if you're not in VR you hardly need it unless you actually cant see. everything is 100 times worse in VR if shit happens
If I'm in F+ or even F worlds I generally have safety off anyways because I'm not expecting much bad to happen there
Tell me, I've had one guy flashbang me several times
I have no idea how people can embrace the chaos in VR... T_T it's horrible, like being on drugs and having a seizure
i never use the safety system 
safety settings, dynamic bones off
Depends. If my entire vision is blocked then yeah, it's bad, but I've seen a lot of "Chaos" just done with random particles falling from the sky (in my case, subscribe to pewdiepie signs) or just other random things that don't kill my eyes
I feel like avatars contribute nothing to my performance
I manage to get 15 FPS in Murder 2 with max safety and perf. settings in rare cases
I honestly don't get it
what dont u get?
what gpu are you using
1080
it could be bad optimization of the world
and are you saying you get 15 FPS at most!? =S
psst mason, delete your mirror clone and shadow clone
vrc is cpu heavy btw
+20fps
No like, Murder 2 runs "fine" (as fine as 45 FPS and below are) most of the time but in rare cases it drops to 15
Oddly enough I can still handle 30 FPS but at 15 FPS when I look around I can see how the rendering is lacking behind
maybe when loading new rooms? you know, collider based collusion
and most of the time I have 45. 30 I can only stay in for a short bit
do you have dynamic bones on?
I have no idea how people can handle 30. if your life was that you would handle it?
Yes but those are probably mostly off at medium perf settings, right?
no it's independent of safety settings
Hmm no, it's not
If someone has too many dynamic bones the performance preference will disable them
depends on what you set as the limit
It doesn't take a lot of D-bones to slide from medium to poor
I'm asking if you have the checkbox on or not
ANYHOW, my point that y'all missed was that avatars contribute seemingly nothing to performance
I still havent changed that... but I would never turn it off unless it's a crazy amount. need for figure out a good limit...
what's normal for an avatar to have? I might base it off on my own
Anything that doesn't become
is "normal" I guess
but that icon is only for the whole avatar right? can u see it for dynamic bones alone? maybe in Unity...
As far as I know you can see the limit when looking at the stats for an avatar
For the polys, it'll say something like X / 70.000, with the 70k being the limit. Anything more = 
The same goes for all the other stats too
I dont wanna go off of VRC's suggestion unless it's really high, cause I think it's very low
dynamic bones are listed in the stats
there's no poly limit anymore
but to limit them is a seperate checkbox from safety settings
It will still be 
If you want to stay at least
, then 70k is the limit
Of course there's nothing stopping you from making a 500k poly model 🤷
yeah... why anyone would use Quest is beyond me
this is just my opinion, but like.
Wireless, doesn't require a PC
ew
my avatar is 4953 poly
What's so ew about it?
haha
Oddly enough, even though I'm very sensitive to FPS in VR, VRChat is the only low FPS game that doesn't trigger any nausea
it's inferior. it's only use is if youre travelling. I wouldnt even be on VRC then cause it would be such a watered down experience so I'd just wait till I got home
https://imgur.com/a/JEvr89D does he look worse than other avatars in vrchat? no.
@safe night Same. As for 2D games Arma is similar in that regard
The quest is just fine. I know several people that really enjoy it. It's a great device. @hot sentinel is disabled, and it makes a lot of sense for her over pcvr
because in other VR games if you move your head while its lagging your camera will stutter and its annoying me. In VRChat its JUST low fps and no stuttering
I have plenty of budget to improve the hands
@mental shuttle Of course a mobile VR headset is not going to be as good as a desktop one, but the fact that it doesn't require a PC at all + it's wireless are decent reasons to go for it if you don't have a PC that could run a Vive or Rift
I disagree
if I really want to. The face is far more important imho
The people that bought the Quest for these reasons disagree with you
You can disagree all you want. As someone who owns like 7 headsets, the quest is amazing for what it is
it's only for people who can afford a second one or if you wanna use VR outside your home. otherwise useless
Laughs in being stuck in facebook's eco system and there shitty longtime support for products
applications like Bigscreen VR are functionally identical
But hey, you were the one wondering why anyone would do it. I told you why. If you decide to ignore it then I don't know what the point was to begin with other than to shit on the Quest and its users.
vrchat is a unique case
I know why, I gave the reasons. your reason wasnt good. if you lack money then maybe, but then it's better to just wait longer to save for proper VR, therefor, useless in any other case than what I mentioned
how about not being able to get up out of your chair or bed to reboot your computer if it locks up?
wat
Imo, they weren't just good reasons, they were literally the reasons people buy the Quest to begin with.
or not having cords across your body?
not worth the loss
as I said, there's very good reasons to own one over pc vr
Vive + Wireless adapter, Lhun
Quest only lasts around 2 hours so chances are you'll be plugged into the mains anyway
@slim temple no there isnt. 0 reason
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Does the log show who someone joined off of 
Well time to block him. Obviously he just wants to shit on the Quest now and believes his opinion is fact.
@slim temple for disabled people yeah, but we're not talking about such cases
I am, @hot sentinel is one such person
Already wasted too much time on that. Well enjoy the rest of your stay talkin' to a wall
she adores vrchat, even with the limitations
@covert blade wth? =S having a different opinion makes you block someone? ok x_x
@slim temple Honestly, just leave him be. He ain't gonna quit.
i mean the quest does suck for VRChat and when you compare it to other headsets
He's beyond reasonable.
@faint skiff I'm working on a model if you wanna watch? \ovo/
But i mean if you like it its whatever, id just nevr suggest it
no you are Mason... the hell
@snow wadi Oh?
Oh!
I've got a Quest and I have to admit, VRChat on Quest is a super depressing experience. I'd never recommend it to anyone, although it does actually work surprisingly well for streaming.
!online
the quest allows her to feel like she's able to leave the house, and it's very convenient. It's a really good headset and incredibly affordable. Has some wonderful apps. If you have a pc already, so get a pc headset. Everything BUT vrchat is great on it, and vrchat is STILL pretty great on it
There are 6384 users in VRChat currently
the only person I know with a quest got it for making worlds/avatars on the quest lol
I can never use a quest because my avatars demand quality. :<
but here's the point: it's up to US to make quest compatable content
qhala your avatar could 100% be quest compatable
Yeah that's the problem, why would I as a PC user make quest content
I mean there's only so much you can polish a turd...
more verts does not equal good
No thanks @slim temple not a worthy sacrifice
A Qhala avatar without dynamic bones? Hmm
too complicated for me to upload it to android platform in unity...
Less verts do NOT work with my roster at all.
Some of the Quest games are good, but as you said, VRChat is not one of them due to the extreme limitations.
The quest headset is great, everything else around it is shit and bad for VR
the quest isnt going to be good on vrchat, and thats because VRChat has user generated content. the quest is great, just not for vrchat
Yeah that's true
They'll look like PSX graphics.
@broken plover it too complecated to change platforms and literally click oine button? wow
i try to get my main avatars quest compatible even if i don't have one
I dont know which "one button" to click
@slim temple You know how much an avatar needs to be modified to be even remotely Quest compatible most of the time?
@faint skiff yes, I'm an expert
it takes. a long time
Realistically why would any PC user go out of their way to make Quest content outside of the drive certain more inclined creators have
for something like beat saber the quest totally rocks but vrchat just is too much for the quest at the moment
Right, but not everyone else is. Many people struggle just enough to get their avatar into PC land.
You're making something for such a small percentage of the playerbase that may never even see it compared to making something for PC users
Hey, +1 for effort!
let me put it this way. If @static rampart can release atol of ether on 12 draw calls
there's no excuse. Quest compatable content runs better on pc too
The ability to do something doesn't mean everyone has the drive to
the only reason i made quest content on vrc is because i liked the challenge of optimising something to work on it
Yes but I'm lazy and don't want to upload two things Everytime I make one.
Anyone can also repair there own tech if they try hard enough, do the research and ect.
We still have a whole industry of 'Did you turn it on and off again, is your program up to date and did you turn it off and on after that?'
that's sad and selfish honestly
No it's not?
Selfish?
even a half assed effort is much appreciated by those users
If you need to drop your avatars tris to quest level verts to make it run on a pc then your pc needs a serious slap on the face labeled "UPGRADE"
"those users" can make their own content though
Since when do I need to do it for others? Are they paying me?
uh actually, no, they can't
So its selfish we dont invest loads more hours into learning how to make an more optimized avatar so we can play with people we dont need to play with?
if they only have a quest?
Quest users can't upload models or worlds?
It's 2019, there is no excuse to not juice up your PC.
no they cannot
Why not?
because they need a pc?
I highly doubt there are people who dont even have a crappy laptop in this day and age.
Not all Quest users don't have a PC
You can build a PC at the price of a bloomin' quest.
And if so, they can still commision them
there is a reason to not juice up your pc. 
And even if that were the case, again, why am I doing charity work for someone I'll never see
@broken plover I would understand if you're not a working individual.
That's what doing work specifically for the quest feels like as a normal user, charity work for someone who you may never even see
Because they make $
Because low poly creations are a lot easier
Gee almost like those poeple make a living of 3d modeling 🤔
As far as beginner work
the quest offers a decent mobile vr experience but if you want it just for vrchat then you would be better off getting pcvr
How much money am I making from decimating my avatar to fit Quest specifications?
or creating low poly props for those avatars?
Zero
Oh, cool. So they do it for money. I'm not making money
Those people tend to be creators that create for the enjoyment they get doing it as well
We're not against people creating content for the quest but to say "Quest is the future"? We are so not ready to rely on a headset to even come close to matching the performance of a PC VR.
I'm not sure I believe that someone doesn't have access to a PC in 2019...
^^^
You need one for school, you need one for work, etc, etc.
I said it earlier, it's 2019.
most people don't have access to a full desktop nowadays
neither am I. everything I make is quest compatible now, though. I do it for fun too. This model is 5k poly: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE9jOYIWsAAg-u3?format=jpg&name=large
They LIKE what they do, they do it as a job or as a very involved hobby and as part of a community, that's how the doujin-work community has always worked
just saying.
Wireless headsets might be the future but unless facebook gets of there special ed software limitations it wont happen
A big part of VR is buisness related, its why a company can make something like the Vive EYE...
So having a wireless headset being locked down to games is 5head
But I'm some dude with a model that I wanna use to hang out with my friends, why am I selfish for not wanting to make a version that Quest users can see?
your not
You had to sacrifice some parts, look at the shoes... >_>
Quest models can look ABSOLUTELY amazing, but more often t han not those are made by people with tons of experience
And those rectangular fingers
I appreciate the effort, but it is not something that would make me say "Ok time to jump ship and get a quest".
The mindset that people not wanting to make content for the quest t hough is just silly
For people who move places alot and really don't have the juice for PCVR then yes I would understand why one would absolutely want a one.
But to get one for the sake of...getting one? Eh...
If I were to jump ship I'd never be able to see a single one of my friends OR t heir avatars lol
If I have a choice, and I have the resources, I will take THAT route. Not this one.
I was going to get one for a 2nf vr in this house but saw it's limitations for vrchat and decided to save up for another PC and another hmd.
if you get a quest you would be better off playing other games imo. maybe step into vrchat once to try it out, but it isn't great for vrchat.
And really the only cool thing about it is that it's wireless but I do that with Vive already.
I'm not suggesting you do, on pc, those fingers can be subdivided if you want. All I'm saying is that having a quest compatible version of your model isn't as hard as you think. All the models I use and maps I upload are the same for both now out of principal. To make a model excellent on pc doesn't take much. Tupper's model is "good" ranked. There's really no reason for something to be "poor" honestly, and 10k poly is a pretty high setup if done right. @snow wadi you may want to look into re-topology.
I don't think it's hard, I think it's a waste of time
Qhala's models all make EXTENSIVE use of dynamic bones. EXTENSIVE.
I wasted many hours trying to do it. Gave up.
I dunno, I interact with dozens of questies a day
We tried to quest Busty Bird...it was horrible.
ISn't Tupper's model made by a professional with years of commercial experience 
Qhala- decimation isn't the way to go. Separate mesh. bake the normals from the hq mesh
That what we did, did not cut it.
Fairly sure he makes models for companies and games, not your average creator by any means
BB is a HIGH quality model, you can't tone her mesh down.
So using Tupper's model as an example isn't really the best argument
The fact that we got her to 69k is a miracle on its own.
He also paid a lot of money for it, he didn't make it himself.
I dunno. Do you guys think overwatch's models are good?
So again, not really relevant to your average user
Why are you trying to use models made by trained professionals as an example?
have a guess at how mnay poly they are
I can tell they're tris count it low.
Overwatch models have the benefit of very high quality texturing and animation.
I think Lhun's next argument will be "Well why don't you just become a professional texture artist too". Go on...
Almost like profesional industry experts know how to optimize things well
"GUYS Blizzard and Nintendo can make low poly models look GREAT it can't be that hard"
And normal users who never heard of blender beside the kitchen version
"These industry professionals that work for the largest companies in gaming do a great job!"
I don't think most of those models are even made by one specific person, I'd hazard a guess that it's a team
why vrchat allways trolled by nubs
its a free game
its the internet in general 🤷
@slim temple Also having to upload on quest first, then pc having to make two models if you want to use loads of things on PC and ect are just a lot of extra work most poeple dont care about
Look just so we're clear, I have nothing against quest content creators, but please do not try to convince me that my avatars like busty bird and Jade olivia can be quest'd. ESPECIALLY Jade.
That girl is way too big.
just checked, Digitrevx has been making models a decade lol
So why compare him to randos that just want a somewhat personal kitbashed mdoel to move around in
@faint skiff I made a photorealistic texture with bumpmaps, normal maps, and it's one single face: from a photograph in 5 minutes using crazybump. The tools are out there
@snow wadi ask about my stuff. im not gonna make all of them quest compatable nor entitled to do so.
but yeah, you have a point
No comment on trying to compare pros to....what's below amateur?
How long did it take to learn about those tools, find them, install them, learn how to use them
Like I said, I applause people for making it happen but please, not me.
My models always make people think I'm toxic because of the way they look ):
shamateur
@slim temple How well does that carry over to kitbashing, which is what most of us non-professionals do?
I mean calling casual VRC importers beginners is a stretch, most of what we do is automated lol
My models are seen as annoying things kids still wear and scream in the mic with just because the avatar looks cursed 🤷
@true sky Which are yours?
Well mine have a bunch of shaders
Then dont have that?
"cool"
"Cool" looking...
@faint skiff very quickly - it's just kitbashing
Pics?
@faint skiff https://i.imgur.com/RYxiUIt.png
I'll ping you when I get home so you can see
Haha
No please don't ping us, just share an image later in #vrchat-pictures .
But things like rim glow
cool looking shaders
rim glow
that rim glow better be somewhere appropriate >~>
it never is
It's on my tail lol
useally glowing textures are associated with the edgy toxic type. doesn't mean everyone who uses them is toxic tho.
I think you might want to revise your shader choices.
Why?
We're not stopping you from using them, but choose ones that doesn't raise any red flags.
Even if they arent a crasher those shaders are almost always shit to look at for vr users
booth models are probably the only ones that use rim glow appropriately and even then those models be better off without it in most cases
It reminds me of Chapelle's "Whore's Uniform" joke
I mean you can totally control the settings in unity once you have them.
You might not be a crasher, but you sure as hell look like one lol
Well the nice thing about rim is it just adds a bit of glow instead of some screen overlay stuff oclac
Red and black colour scheme, weapon slung on back, wolf ears, cap...
That's a default crasher.
Oh...that would explain the blocks lol
dont forget startsphere on every loose part except the skin
No weapon no hood no glasses no coffin
But do you have...wolf ears?
Yes
_>;;;
lol
When I join a lobby and hear every gang intro
S̓̓ͤOͭ͋ͪ҉͈̟̀M̀̏̿E͐ͤ͑Rͧ̀ͯȀͧ̽Ň̇̒D̏̂ͥ҉͏̗͓Ȯ͋̔M̐̈̈ has joined the lobby
enverex hasnt joined the lobby :(
But yeah, is this "manish" thing some meme I'm unaware of?
Idk
laughs in safety settings
from what ive seen manish is a creator that make a bunch of annoying public avatars
Oh so someone block worthy.
🤷
blocks dont do anything if your avatars are public and go around VRChat like a virus
One thing I hate is being in a public world (not in a world where this is cheating), and just flying around with avatar collider and some kid rolls up under me in the default avatar yelling hacker.
Who said I go to public worlds?
It's why we need blueprint ID blocking ❤
Comment by Manish on one of his avatars "You must have modded sdk in unity before upload this" ....
the glory of safety settings
I mean that was like 90% of models back then anyway
I've seen an avatar with -37462623737734736 particles
i seen some with around 2 billion
But when it goes negative then that's not good
tfw you have so many particles you create an overflow error
Sanity checking when?
I used to have an avatar from a friend with like 236 material slots
Had some cool animations
God I wish I was home right now. Have a screenshot of a dude with an avatar with like 2000+ material slots, I think over a million polygons. I was wondering why it took literally 5 minutes to load the avatar and that was the stats on it. Granted most of those objects were hidden in animations but it was crazy.
I have a screenshot of me getting crashed by 99M polys
Yah but this dudes avatar wasn't a crasher, it was his daily use avatar he played murder in >_>
I still wheeze at the people who claim polygons have no performance impact
I Wana make an avatar world but i have mixed reviews on my main avatar
Let me transform a million polygons and your pc will for sure have to work hard lmao
I think my best avatar achievement is making a working menu
People still black screening?
!online
There are 6495 users in VRChat currently
the favorite sys is broken i can unfavorite avatars or worlds or add
@deep mortar
no pings for non urgen matters
I mean... I'm sure they appreciate nice messages. Lol
you have violated rule 329-5 paragraph 7 page 743 of the galactic server treaty
And what does that rule say?
your punishment will be decided in the galactum court
!online
There are 6422 users in VRChat currently
No ban pls
This VR market is pretty neat
@deep mortar

!online
There are 6305 users in VRChat currently
@vocal shard ?
@vocal shard Salty Gayng has joinid to loubby
.
@vocal shard I got banned from Salty because Im not trustworthy
;'(
I heard that some avatars at the VM3 may be stolen e.e ?
Are friend requests bugged for anyone else?
@deep mortar I'm sorry but I no longer managed the Salty Gang
and it was a joke the above, for no ban plis
lmao
:v
I left for personal reasons, and on the other, he became the leader of the salty
the salty gang is not a big group
just checking as I'm currently at work, has the ddos calmed down?
its been calm for atleast 16 hours
thanks
I havent been able to play, something happened?
Probably
What’s the virtual market about I have no idea
Huge event created and ran by japanese creatives, to show off and sell their work.
Oh ok
And the models made there are done under a lot of technical freedom.
There are unique models there, like that 4.8k toon avatar, which acts, true to form, to an 80s-90s Western cartoon character
id like to see that
You'll find it in Neo Shibuya. Left side after exiting the subway.
👀
anyone happen to know where I can find the mike wazowski avatar that has the music emote that summons Sully?
!online
There are 6157 users in VRChat currently
Oh the inky one?
The trailer for that one is cute
80s/90s is too recent if it's the one I think lol
@ember raptor They arent blacklisted on worlds if I remember correctly. I guess its either its to prevent malicious actions, or for technical reasons...but I might be completely wrong
dang
Oof
Great pug 20875 has a bird jamming real time on his synth and it is smooth af
I'm feeling seriously chill right now
That sounds kinda sick
I keep getting stuck in loading screen at 0.00 and blanks where the data goes
Is that on my end or vrchat
goddamn room let me in
Why...
So if a room just refuses to let me in, is there anything I can do?
I've seen that happen a couple times too, but I've never tried waiting more than 5 minutes.
Sometimes it’s cuz the room is literally full at the hard cap. (Double the number you see as the cap in the menu)
I see
I really wish it hadn't kicked me out. The guys tunes were seriously soothing me
I had some traumatic shit happen at work today and I just can't fucking get over it
henlo everyone
I like that the oculus is cheaper but I don't want to give Facebook my money
Saving up for an index though
give it to gaben
Yeah man
Next pay is a three pay month which means it'll be a bigger paycheque. Gonna use it to kill my visa bill, make it easier to convince the wife that I can afford an index
I knew I recognized that tachikoma picture
As in you know me from somewhere or you know what tachikomas are?
the latter
Ah, cool. Yeah man GitS is easily my favourite... Series? Franchise?
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
Oculus has close to 50% of the vr hmd market, not including quest
My wmr works great
same
All the avatar worlds disappeared o.o
still there for me
Is VRC working any better tonight?
Looks like it
am i able to message yet XD
Yep. Lol
i just had the weirdest expereance XD
so there i was relaxing in the void club when some random dude comes over trying to start a conversation right so im not able to talk at the time as im eating some food he then goes i know you speek english and says my location XD and im all like wtf some random guy says my general area then my internet proceeds to die -_-
@prime mirage https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/ip-grabbing
yeah i figured people where doing somthing with the ip
but i was just like let me eat my noodles in peace XD
some people /really/ cant stand when they are being ignored. i had someone recently use a crasher avatar against all people in an instance with badly configured safety settings because he was being ignored
Jeez. And it's possible that he can use it as an excuse for his actions. My doubts though.
unfortunately for me, i had no screencap running and nameplates disabled at that time and everyone just suddenly disappearing means i would have possibly grabbed the wrong username out of the logfiles anyways because i wasnt very sure who it was
yeah i dont mind it too much though as you guys are right there are some pretty despirate people out there
but like it was so random for me
Can someone tell me what kind of avatar that I posted in #avatars-2-general
Hi how do you report a user? I have a video showing they spawned like 5 portals in the world that isn't counting down or anything.. Is it the e-mail still i sent this off or is there a form i fill out with a link now?
Reports should be sent through a ticket in here: http://help.vrchat.com/home/
anyone checked out the vr markets ?
there super duper fun to go arround with some friends
true even by yourself is fun too
I checked out a couple with the community meetup gang
i met some cool people trough it though are we allowed to share pictures here?
what even is the virtual market??
@rugged schooner Huge event created and ran by japanese creatives, to show off and sell their work.
elire can i dm you a picture of one of the market photos i took with some friends?
Sure thing
Oooo, sounds neat!
Virtual Market is a trade and exhibition convention held in Virtual Reality where attendees can freely browse, try on and purchase 3D virtual avatars or apparel. Virtual Market was created in the hopes of enriching and pushing the boundaries of Virtual Reality.
Check it out, it has its own category in the worlds menu
I’ll check it out when I get home
👍
I get low frames in worlds, like 30frames and everything gets all cutty for me.
I'm on a gtx 1060 while my gf is on a gaming laptop. I have a whole ass rig and I lose more frames.
What’s your CPU?
How do i check?
I completely forgot.
Like, Ryzen 7?
Graphics Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6GB (GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD)
Processor Model AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 8-Core/16-Thread
Motherboard Gigabyte B350M-DS3H
Standard Memory 16GB DDR4
SSD 256GB M.2 SSD
Hard Drive Capacity 2TB Hard Drive
Power Supply Corsair 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Power Supply
Operating System Windows 10 Home
Cooling Corsair H55 Water Cooling
That's my thing.
VR, Vive.
The 1800x isn't that great. I just switched to a 3700x and saw a big improvement
*from an 1800x
The game is a lot more stable for me now. You can also sell the 1800x for over a hundred used so it can fund some of the new processor cost
The b350 chipset might support 3rd gen with a bios update
If not you can go to a 2nd gen and still get good gains
It's all about preference, but I noticed Intel handles VR a little better.
Well more cores usually doesent scale nice in more mainstream aplications
But now I do wonder, how many threads can vrc split into
4? 8? 16?? 32!? 6-4!!? 
It's completely up to the devs, they can setup the CPU usage and confirm stability after changes. The game could use alot of juice if they wanted it to but they always need to consider players who are trying to run VRC on a potato PC.
I'm actually surprised with a small team like that, they managed to get it running on quite a number of different systems.
For sure with all the non optimizing the game has (users and world's)
Yeah that's like, on top of the already needing to get it running in the first place phase.
Oh no I mean the number of threads, if it can split into more threads amd cpu users can benefit from all of those extra cores
Like I said that's completely up to the devs, it's the same story with some other games out there. There's one I play where it took the devs 6 freaking years to finally be able to allow 2 cores usage across the majority of different setups.
When it first launched? The engine was running an entire MMORPG on a SINGLE core.
Seems about right
And when you got into a 12 man dungeon? Fuck your FPS, Kodak Picture Moments is here!
It was even worse for 24 man raids...oh lord that showed you what your CPU would look like when it gets beaten to death while a cow is rolling over it time and again.
Using overclocked core duo 
See that's the problem, you overclock but the game engine will disregard it.
IF the devs setup a fixed number of cores.
Anyone wanna play vrc
I dunno, does VRC want to play...with YOU?
Heck
Destruction 100
The ryzen cpus just run so poorly
I wad told how amazing they are and than left dissapointed when I couldnt even run skyrim on the lowest settings without stuttering
Which one did you get?
Ryzen 5 1500
IT handles e-sport titles very well
But nothing else
I stutter in vr or in desktop games
But yeah even when using safe móde in vrc I get around 15 fps in public world
So yeah fuck AMD
Also hewoooooo
<3 it can make ones Day better so yes it is
Uff yeah the 1500 has 4 cores and lower base&turbo speeds, so that explains thy the poor performance
IT has 6 cores
6
@tranquil panther also a 2060
Ryzen 1st gen was only decent tbh
Ryzen 2nd gen was an improvement
Ryzen 3rd gen finally hits the mark
Didn't you say it's ryzen 5 1500x?
@hollow sluice oof. Ram? is the ram a ddr4 memory? how much is the ram, is it single or dual channel?
yours is a 1st gen btw
very slow ram wow
the ram might be your biggest bottleneck
it's still a ddr3-1600
mine is a ddr4-2400
dual channel
??
This is an English only channel, use the international sub section for your language.
I am making typos cuz I am on a Phone lol
Well its not that far behind a 6700k which I've seen vrc players use quite a bit, so it should be ok 
can i disable full body????
By turning off your trackers, yes.
im chargin
i've tried playing vrc on an intel uhd. oh boy...
I bet vrc is optimised with 4 cores 8 threads in mind
Restart VRC to dismiss the trackers.
never gonna do that again
But make sure they are turned off.
@cold talon you say should but it really isnt okay
IF theres more than 5 ppl in my game and Ai dare to turn on a mirror or a camera my fps drops to low 20
I am honestly used to it at this point
No game runs good on this piece of shit cpu
Well mine drops to 35fps in pug lower if the mirror is enabled, so not sure myself how people get good fps
Oh the pug and void are so badly optimized I xan barely run those solo
This CPU was a scam tbh
You could check how vrc uses your cpu with resource monitor, tha teay you can see each core load separately, if one is pinned at 100, that's your bottleneck
i havethe same ryzen cpu and its a beast, its not the cpu, check your stuff
my 1600 runs anything i throw at it perfectly.
motherboard?
B-350f iirc
Well, if it's not fully loaded, than its something else, how about ram/gpu
What is there to check? Everything runs fine by my knowledge
1st gen doesnt have the best ipc compared to latest, but its still good.
Alright lets compare IF its really my specific system


