vrchat-general-2

[covert blade]

Btw my current main avatar has the glorious due to dynamic bones

Not really a problem anymore because the perf block system just disables those now, so like, whatever

[stray temple]

@mental cairn Just report on feedback.vrchat.com

[covert blade]

I mean I'm not against new ideas but uh, you don't really seem to have an idea on how this could be improved

[desert stratus]

hh i might have more time

im thinking about that too, dont get me wrong, i just think that at the very least its a problem in the first place

consider: it feels like there's a very big difference between making avatars for yourself and making avatars public

[compact river]

I still just have all very poor models blocked

[desert stratus]

the existing perf system works great for people who make avatars for themselves because uhh

[slim temple]

@mental cairn you should post on the canny

[covert blade]

I'd almost suggest a hard limit for things like material slots because some avatars use waaaay too many of them even though they could be optimized to only use a fraction of them while having the same appearance but I think any sort of hardlimit would result in a lot of people disliking in

[slim temple]

and try to be as detailed as possible. Make sure the issue is with the game itself, and not a map or avatar.

[olive hemlock]

so what do you recommend me to do with my motion sickness?

[covert blade]

@olive hemlock Use the comfort options in the game for example

[slim temple]

@olive hemlock you'll get used to it. I recommend playing standing up. Turn your entire body instead of just your head.

make sure you're getting good frames, that can contribute to issues

[vocal shard]

For motion sicknesses, my recommendation is just to keep at it, but don't push yourself through it. Little by little your body will get used to it. But if you feel motion sicknesses, don't push through it otherwise you can feel really sick for the rest of the day

[slim temple]

Snap turning is usually just fine. Most people get the most motion sickness from smooth turning over everything else

Here's a protip: if you brace yourself like you're riding a hoverboard and move forward that way, for some people that helps extremely with motion sickness

it's like seasickness. Make sure the lenses are as close to your eyes as possible and try to keep a horizon line when you're moving

[covert blade]

Honestly though, VRChat is kind of a mess of avatars of different qualities and every player using different settings for what they show and hide

[slim temple]

and make sure your IPD is set correctly

[olive hemlock]

the ipd is the lenght between my eyes right?

[covert blade]

What gives me motion sickness is when the image freezes for a sec

[olive hemlock]

how do i measure it?

[covert blade]

You got the Vive?

Should've come with instructions on how to do exactly that

[slim temple]

the more you engage your physical body when you move in vr the less sick you should get - I participated in a study about it. It's really interesting

and of course after a while you get your "vr legs" and nothing bothers you

[quick hatch]

hey im loking into getting a vr headset, but is my 1060 going to be enough for like low/medium graphics gaming?

[ruby needle]

is it the 3 or 6gb edition?

[quick hatch]

3

[ruby needle]

Bad choice

[quick hatch]

i mean it says it is capable

[rapid nimbus]

i have the 6gb version. would that be okay?

[ruby needle]

both work for a lower end vr thing, the 3GB are definitely a rather concerning bottleneck tho

[rapid nimbus]

Ive been using the trinus vr app on my phone to use steamvr and its works okay

[slim temple]

that's actually less intense than a headset in some ways

lower resolution video encoding lower framerate

[quick hatch]

@ruby needle ive heard people using the 1050 ti for stable fps vr gaming and thats only a 1 gb increase

[stoic halo]

it'll work

but not to the best capacity

[ruby needle]

1gb is quite a difference in this regard tho

[stoic halo]

its the best way to describe it

it works, ive played VR on a r9 380x back when

[rapid nimbus]

hey i just looked on oculus rift recommended specs and it seems that my specs actually match the ones on the site

[frigid fox]

I have a 1050 ti

Yaaay

[sinful matrix]

Do you know what is strange btw? Build 825 had some crash issues with jumping to another instances and some random crashes with the same message all the time. We are now in Build 842 and still no fix.

[placid zealot]

Got gtx 1060 and 16 gb here, running everything decently 😃

[hollow breach]

Ew

Sucks not to have RAY TRACING

[agile ruin]

XD

[placid zealot]

Muh ray tracing

[desert stratus]

when you come back but the convo is dead </3

[placid zealot]

As is usual here.

[mental cairn]

@slim temple it need to be adressed to the dev bc these modded clients and black doors need to be fix

[languid olive]

So, I'm kind of new to VRC, but I like it so far

[supple swan]

Hey, are avatars still being stolen, or has that been fixed?

[placid zealot]

Glad you're liking it Ruby!

[languid olive]

I'm in the movie rooftop world watching John Wick 3

Maybe I should switch to a John Wick model

[hushed pond]

What's the avatar world with the big bed? Like everything is huge?

[supple swan]

I'll ask again, is people stealing avatars still an issue?

If any of the 1000+ people lurking could give me a yes or no, that'd be wonderful

[desert stratus]

depends. ive heard horror stories here and there but from what ive heard it either only happens to valuable avatars (such as $500 custom-commissioned and 3d modeled ones) or to people within the "vrc underground" community

so it eithet happens if youre rich or if you make eboy avatars for vrc gang #43

[supple swan]

darn

if i may ask, is there any way to protect against this?

That works, that it

[feral trail]

I really love making VRchat Content on my Youtube. Been working on making a custom Avatar to push the Channel to the Next Level. I dont mean to bombard. Your gonna love this "Very Bunny ASMR tho" Check it out and Have a smile on me. https://youtu.be/7UL7aXKEzko

[snow wadi]

Looks like #shameless-self-promotion

[placid zealot]

Uhhh That allowed?

[snow wadi]

[supple swan]

I spent $300 on a custom 1471 model, and i reaaaally don't want it yoinked

[placid zealot]

I think as of right now there is little you can do but people who are more knowledgeable about this stuff might have some better advice for you.

[supple swan]

Ok, that's a shame, but thank you

[snow wadi]

If it's custom and you really want to avoid the nicking, steer clear of public worlds.

[supple swan]

...what's the point of Vrchat if you avoid public worlds?

Just...stand in the middle of a field, by yourself

[snow wadi]

Because that's where you're most likely going to get yoinked.

[placid zealot]

I mean if you want to go to publics you risk getting your avatar stolen. Might happen and might not I think 🤷

[supple swan]

What can you even do in private world? I imagine with just yourself there, it'd be a bit dull

[placid zealot]

Invite friends?

[snow wadi]

I have quite a few friends and I hang out with them in private instances, that's just me though.

If you want to pop into public then go for it, you do you!

[supple swan]

That requires you to have friends ^-^;

[feral trail]

Im never shameless in my promotion. Especially if its healthy and I make VRchat content. The earth is promoting us all to LIFE right now. Doesnt matter.

[tawny ore]

That's a very strange perspective on life

[rigid moss]

heyo guys, anybody knows who can create a whole new character?

im new to this discord & dont know where to ask.

[snow wadi]

If you're looking to commission someone for an avatar, there is a sever called VRC Traders. Those are the folks you're looking for.

[rigid moss]

thanks @snow wadi much appriciated.

[snow wadi]

Most welcome. ❤

[supple swan]

I got my model ages ago, but haven't put it into vrchat, since i'm waiting for avatar stealing to be fixed xwx;

[snow wadi]

You're gonna wait a pretty damn long time then. xD

[supple swan]

I have time

[rigid moss]

i woulnt mind if peoples took my avatar, it means they're a fan of my twitch channel 🙂

[supple swan]

I would mind, from the amount of money i put into it xwx;

[languid olive]

My fiancé made my model

[rigid moss]

well i guess everybody's their own opinion i suppose 🙂

[languid olive]

Might have him do a custom model idea I have

[vestal pier]

Again with the mystery pings

Dang it

[placid zealot]

Spooky ghost pings!

[rancid vessel]

umm help? I'm trying to login from the website and getting error "No Reason Phrase: Created too many sessions for that user".. O.o

I can't even login to the game.. What the heck is going on..

Will this go away in a few minutes?

[snow wadi]

Have you tried to login several times with incorrect credentials?

[rancid vessel]

Nope, Hopefully its just a hiccup and It'll clear up in 30 minutes or sooner..

[snow wadi]

Also try clearing your browser cache, then try again after about 15min or so.

[rancid vessel]

@snow wadi It's also happening with the VRChat build from steam.. >_>

[snow wadi]

Narrow it down, start with the browser first.

[rancid vessel]

Still no luck :/

[snow wadi]

Could it be your router might need a restart?

[rancid vessel]

I don't think that would cause a login error.. :/

Everything else like browsing the web, minecraft and so forth works fine.

[snow wadi]

Routers can be picky.

[vocal shard]

can't use my index controllers ingame ?

thay work in steam vr but as soon as i enter the game thay dont work

[compact river]

is the rig human

[vocal shard]

yes

[snow wadi]

Try not to post the same message in multiple channels, check the #rules

[vocal shard]

i posted in here whit the intention of getting help, then i realiced there is a user support channel, soul allready responded so i dident romove the message

[next marsh]

my game keeps crashing

[rancid vessel]

I wish a dev would just reply to my e-mail or offer to talk to me in here about my login issue.. I really want to get into the game 😦

[ancient musk]

yo does anyone got valve index in here?

[desert stratus]

@supple swan honestly dont worry about it, it's already rare enough to begin with if you play normally / avoid the top 2-3 most popular public worlds at any given moment, and afaik there's always going to be some amount of risk to that sort of thing happening

[ancient musk]

does any valve index users know whats up with the headset display disconnected problem?

[desert stratus]

peopl3 usually dont undertake expensive commissions for vrchatters unless theyre aware of that risk and its potential consrquences already, (which they should be) so you might as well follow through and enjoy your avatar already >u>

[vocal shard]

I have a valve index... I dont have that problem.. did you plug it in correctly?

[rancid vessel]

How long will it take before i can get back into VRChat 😦

[ancient musk]

I got everything plugged correctly unless the displayport needs to be plugged into a monitor

[languid olive]

Well, I watched John Wick 3 on VRC

[tawny ore]

just testing something

Oh it works. Test successful.

[compact river]

[tawny ore]

Soul come love me in VRC

...or something along those lines

[compact river]

at 10:30ish pm k?

[tawny ore]

I don't know Soul time XD

[vocal shard]

litreally everyone is the starting avatar lol

[fluid bloom]

...safety settings

[vocal shard]

ah yea

[snow wadi]

Fuzz you on VRC nao?

[slate verge]

@tawny ore are you going to be on vrc

[tawny ore]

I shall be in 5 minutes; going to pee and grabbing 2 more beers

[slate verge]

smh

[snow wadi]

Gonna test my avatar, I'll setup my vee ARRR

Once my cat gets off my chest.

Sometime tonight would be nice.

[tawny ore]

Opening OCULUUUUUS

Opening VRCCCCC

[tacit plank]

Is installing playspacemover really as much of a pain as I think?

Or as a github page is implying that it is

[snow wadi]

[slate verge]

@snow wadi how come you're not online

[snow wadi]

I am o.o

[slate verge]

@snow wadi join fuzz's world

[inner cape]

I dunno, caff
mine came with advanced settings and it was easy as hell to install

[snow wadi]

I'm at a friends world o.o/

[slate verge]

oh, well.

[snow wadi]

What's your vrc?

[slate verge]

fooni

should be the obvious one

[snow wadi]

Jinji avatar?

[slate verge]

yep

@snow wadi have fun with your game! ima just chill with fuzz

[snow wadi]

Aww :<

[slate verge]

yeah i don't feel like doing anything

[oak rover]

I'm new to vrchat

[opaque hawk]

Hello New to vrchat

[slate verge]

@vocal shard you want to use this channel for that kind of help. #vrchat-support

[deft quail]

Am i the only one timing out here?

[jovial pulsar]

Been a lot of random disconnects lately when just chilling out in normal worlds, is it someone doing it or are there new server issues again?

Same here

[deft quail]

It's getting annoying

[lofty swan]

👀

[verbal creek]

servers are all down right now

[lofty swan]

guess VRC is evil atm.

👋 servers

[craggy trellis]

had my whole group drop connection just a moment ago

[lofty swan]

VRC noped :akkoshrug:

[verbal creek]

same and again right now

[jovial pulsar]

I managed to get past the black screen

[fair hill]

.

[fading flower]

servers goin sicco mode

[jovial pulsar]

yup

[lofty swan]

maybe just a network wide restart

since it's working again

[fading flower]

twice in a row

[fair hill]

internet . exe has stopped working

[verbal creek]

4 times in a row for me

[lofty swan]

no, i mean the VRC Network. not the internet lol

like the api under the hood, to make every player push into an instance

[proper adder]

Yea everyone is timing out

[lofty swan]

no, there is no way to burn gpu's.

except you remove the cooler

if there would be a way to burn the GPU's, then would the stress test of your like also kill your GPU

[verbal creek]

mmh it would imply a lot of things to be able to remote destroy a pc

[lofty swan]

not really

the only thing what they could do is either overclock your HW, (but that requires kernel permission)

[verbal creek]

managing to remote execute code + the person not having anti virus + person having cheap hardware with not protection

and this recuiere a very specific context to be able to do all this

[lofty swan]

cheap hardware with no protection could be actually a good reason

but the really only one way to destroy a computer is running something under kernel level, aka a GPU driver or a OS

[verbal creek]

well I mean most recent hardware have active security that turns off the device if a physical issue happening to avoid damaging other stuff

[lofty swan]

yea

[verbal creek]

so unless someone found a zero day security flaw and that can be exploited using a modified client to execute remote code and get kernel permission level, without having antivirus triggered and hardware security triggering, you can't

[fading flower]

they bacc

[fair hill]

they bacc mope

[round thunder]

Yeah still getting timed out.

[oak sage]

anyone else keep getting gimed out after the update

[hollow carbon]

yup

timing out is still happening

it just started happening not too long ago actually

[jovial pulsar]

Yeah, happening now as well

[fading flower]

we had to evacuate our instance for a new one

[shadow zephyr]

constant time outs Vrchat wtf

fix this

[vocal shard]

http://xor.meo.ws/47a74b3f/368e/4555/af91/eeafb05847a9.png looks pretty unhealthy :<

[fading flower]

get in the portal!

we lost one!

is everyone here?

lmao

[shadow zephyr]

wtf

is going on with server

[hollow carbon]

XD

[shadow zephyr]

constant time outs

[hollow carbon]

VR you need to fix stuffa gain

[shadow zephyr]

cant even stay in world 10secs

[deft quail]

^

I keep getting cut off mid-sentence everytime it happens lol

[hollow carbon]

omg bruh this shit is so annoying XD

[vocal shard]

uuuf what's happening :D

[hollow carbon]

no clue XD

it just started happening to me 1 hour ago

[deft quail]

i lost count on how many times it happened lmao

[hollow carbon]

its the 15th time for me XD

[vocal shard]

Well, need to wait now haha

[hollow carbon]

just like yesterday face palm

[fading flower]

F

down again

[vocal shard]

hm?

[compact river]

[wind crescent]

Early Access

[ruby needle]

it's fine @brisk bone

[compact river]

[brisk bone]

Alrighty, just making sure.

[civic badge]

why is retrogeo banned 😦

from this discord

[covert blade]

Why do you ask?

[rigid crescent]

Ask them

[compact river]

[covert blade]

Like, when someone directly asks why XYZ person was banned even though there is no way for a regular user to actually know that, I suspect it to be an alt account from the banned person

[rigid crescent]

Good point

[covert blade]

Doesn't have to be true though but the only way you'd know is to ask the one who was banned, but then you probably already know the reason why

[rigid crescent]

Even if it's not odds are they're the only one who knows why

[ruby needle]

alts usually keep quiet

its often either peopel ask friends to ask

or peopel ask them self when the other part mentiones it somewhere

[covert blade]

Implying that the moderation team bans for weird reasons that leave the banned person confused as to what they did wrong

I mean, tbh

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal shard]

Even if someone does get banned, they are made aware of the reason

[hollow breach]

False, I had to go out of my way to find out why I was banned ;;

[rigid crescent]

https://puu.sh/E8Njk/ded7540d50.png this one gonna be hype

[tame fiber]

how do I disable shaders so that it can be quest compatable

[maiden kindle]

Safety system on the menu o/

[covert blade]

@maiden kindle He's talking about avatar creation. Safety menu has nothing to do with quest compatibility

[maiden kindle]

My bad, I'm really sleepy and I just saw the "how do I disable shaders"

[lofty swan]

Me: yes
Servers: NOPE

[inner blade]

looks like server issues? lol

[shell nest]

r/whoooosh

[quartz tartan]

servers ded

[valid sandal]

Doesnt cease to amaze ol

Lol*

[torn peak]

sigh sigh

[languid beacon]

Just curious, what is people's opinion on monetization anyway? Looking forward to it? Dreading it? Indifferent?

[torn nebula]

Looking forward to getting a clearer picture of their plans for sure

[desert stratus]

if this game ever gets monetized, id like to either see it through ads or just finally giving it a price tag

[rigid crescent]

I don't see any issue with monetization, but there's not much to take issue with since there's not much that's been said about it

[torn nebula]

It has to happen eventually, and I'm happy to pay, but a lot of my friends don't necessarily have the means to pay so hopefully there's a free level of service as well

[rigid crescent]

I imagine anything paid for would be stuff we don't have ingame right now

Paid avatar slots would only kill public avatar worlds, so that's out

[desert stratus]

i just hope they dont monetize content heavily, or content at all

actuallly, scratch that. i thought of it in my head, an in-game avatar market actually wouldn't be the worst idea...

[rigid crescent]

Same with worlds in general. paid uploaded content seems like a bad avenue to take

[torn nebula]

There's a huge business in avatar sales in Japan right now and zero percent of that goes to vrchat itself

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up working with Booth and other creators to try and get a piece of that somehow

[desert stratus]

that's what made me think of it. i dont think it would be that bad, it's just a matter of getting it just right. dont monetize the worlds but avatars would make a lot more sense

[torn nebula]

I could see people paying for not even having to open unity

[desert stratus]

in fact, didnt they mention something about an in-game commission system?

[rigid crescent]

The American market using Booth and other paid modeling sites is still pretty small, but imagine a creator making a few "one of a kind" premade models to put in their world for purchase, yknow

[desert stratus]

that could potentially be huge for anyone with the skills who wants to do some side-gigs or straight up freelance on this game (if it ever gets lucrative enough)

[torn nebula]

Monetizing convenience is a great way to avoid revolt imo. You can keep doing things the old way... or buy the avatar in the vrc client and you can use it immediately

[rigid crescent]

It might just be retextures, added accessories they created, etc

I think it incentives more circles of creators to work together as well to create custom content

[torn nebula]

Or think of things like social organization tools. Add a new tag/categorization feature, put some limits on it unless you pay for a monthly subscription. New users won't need the feature but heavy users will be happy to pay for it

[rigid crescent]

Then it opens a secondary market for smaller creators to sell their creations with distribution rights as well

[desert stratus]

that would be a pretty fine way of going about it. dumb question but who would have to pay in this scenario, the creator or the user?

[rigid crescent]

The maker of the model pays for the model and the game takes a cut i'd assume

[torn nebula]

I am a bit worried that in-client asset sales will limit customization though. The Japan side of vrc has a strong culture of buying an avatar and then showing off your own modifications... It'd be a shame if you couldn't access the asset to pull it into blender or whatever

[desert stratus]

huh. i thought it would be a bit better to just set your initial price and the game to add a final-tax of like 5%

i cant really tell the differenc ebetween the two but i feel like there is one

the latter being more convenient imo

[rigid crescent]

Not adding it lends more freedom to creators to choose their price. Some will opt to increase the price by X% to let the buyer cover the cost

[torn nebula]

They're effectively the same in the end

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, one just has an illusion of choice, which is always nice

[torn nebula]

Just a question of how you position it for the creators

[desert stratus]

fair point

[rigid crescent]

If they're basically the same, makes more sense to take the route that "feels" better

[desert stratus]

yeye

man, the early stages of this economy are gonna be wild though

my only solace is that the highschoolers uploading the majority of content (eboy / egirl wolf TDA edits) probably arent gonna be allowed to monetize anything, but that doesnt stop everyone just turning 18...

[merry cedar]

Is anyone else crashes on VRChat ?

[desert stratus]

ye, been happening, ive been timing out

dunno if its like a genuine genuine issue tho

[merry cedar]

Everyone in the world was timeout

[languid beacon]

I would pay for a persistent, named instance. But don't let the devs hear that. They might be doing it for free.

[vocal shard]

servers f'd?

[rigid crescent]

a bit

[safe nova]

^

[vocal shard]

servers are lagging and dropping hundreds of users offline.... again

[rigid crescent]

happeens

[fathom bolt]

pretty laggy

[jovial pulsar]

yup

been that way all day

[boreal creek]

Thanos whyyyy

[unborn dune]

jesus

everyone is getting booted

[grand sinew]

im crashing 😦

[dense slate]

I'm confused

[brisk bone]

Paying for stuff on VRChat hype!

I don't really care, what they'll do. Hell, I'd pay money to go to events in-game. 😉 There is a lot of money on the table. It will be fun to see if it only extends to avatars or whether it will go beyond that.

Today has been a whoozy in VRChat though, just so many connection issues. Whew.

[ivory axle]

Vrchat, the game where "fixes" and "updates" cause more problems

[rigid crescent]

wow a uniquely structured game in development where things are fixed and things break

[placid zealot]

Also pretty much a free game

[timber widget]

did anyones connection drop and repeatedly refusing to let them join?

[rigid crescent]

been happening on and off for a while now

[timber widget]

oh, ive only now got it, weird

[rigid crescent]

happened to me and some friends earlier while we were drinking

[timber widget]

like ive restarted the game a couple of times

[ivory axle]

no point @timber widget its happened to almost everyone, i was in an instance of 12 people and we all kept crashing too

[timber widget]

still not letting me in, never had it do this

lol, too late spoon. just went and reinstalled the game

[ivory axle]

feelsbadman

[timber widget]

how long do i have to wait before it stops happening?

[ivory axle]

i have no idea, but lets just say i started crashing a tonne about 13 hours ago

[timber widget]

im not really crashing but it wont let me connect

[rigid crescent]

I took a quick break to charge my stuff and get a snack and it was fine, took like 20 minutes tops

[ivory axle]

im not sure tbh

[timber widget]

been like 5 mins already, and im real impatient.

oh cool its back

have a great day

its doing it again

vrchat fix your crap

its annoying.

[rigid crescent]

lol that'll show em, the other dozen or so people complaining at them definite fixed it

[reef hill]

A gane in development for YEARS!

[rigid crescent]

ok?

[molten gale]

I mean isnt it Early Access?

[rigid crescent]

games develop for years, that's how games work

[molten gale]

The people complaining dont know how hard and complicated it is to manage and develop a game that runs mostly off user made content

[analog peak]

my vr broke due to this game, i cant even turn on vr cause it crashes rip

[molten gale]

Uh can you explain?

I dont really think thats possible

[fading flower]

yo are the servers somewhat stable now?

[reef hill]

No idea

[fading flower]

like they arent the best but have they reverted to bearable at least now?

F

[reef hill]

the developers aren't getting any support by making the game free but ik is just and early access

[molten gale]

Its also not that big of a team either

[rigid crescent]

they definitely have monetary support

[versed hound]

Today I got bullied for always being honest...

That is american logic right there...

They don't have any...

And the random crashes are annoying too...

[molten gale]

Some people are just like that

Its best to just ignore them or just react in a way they wouldnt want you to

I wish I could play vrchat but im on vacation

[hushed pawn]

Anyone been crashing like crazy today?

[uncut trail]

Yep

World lag then everyone crashesd

[elfin cloak]

speaking of crashers i notice something really strange about them...
it like ... when we all experiance a lot of lags,timing out and crashing...
i was in many of public worlds with my friends...
and we got safity on with everything blocked...
but many times we get heavy crash by crashers who using modifyed client and they send us to windows blue screen with some qr code because almost every one of us are using w10.

but when we was in public world in the period when vrchat function just fine we never get lag,crash or disconnected.

so i think that those crashers has wary strong connection...
with crashing vrchat itself and sending a lot of lag's bug's in there...

there presence and action's must be logged for observatiion and final concludance so they can be banned permanently.
because they will try to have some excuse or blame someone else
that's why they need to be logged.

[hushed pawn]

Mine's basically crashing every time i change worlds

[queen mango]

Aren't they already logged in the output log? Sending it along with video evidence of the offender would prove more than enough.

[elfin cloak]

i mean they need to be logged by vrchat including all of us
without need that we need to sand our logs to dev's upon our crash.
it will be easyer for us and dev's as well.

when i say logged i mean monitored
not what we talk and where we are but action's what we doing

[vital rune]

so they're getting stronger it seems

[elfin cloak]

they (crashers) they will never get stronger in that way
because they will be monitored in real time
non stop
so they can kiss dev's ass
🙂

[pastel galleon]

So you want active moderators in every public instance? 💸

[elfin cloak]

moderation's? you mean monitoring
if yes then

why not i say yes indeed

[rigid crescent]

lol you want the impossible

and impractical

[vestal pier]

Where tf do you guys go to get crashed so often?

[molten gale]

Lmfao

[rigid crescent]

no clue honestly, even my time in boxes hasnt been as bad as it used to be

[elfin cloak]

i think that is not impossible
but if many people prefer not to be monitored
then vrchat will have those problems all the time
and it will never progress from bad to better
because the dev's will be wary occupated in fixing the bugs instead to bring new things in vrchat
and they will eventually get really tyered and you can imagine what will be the next step

[rigid crescent]

its impractical and inefficient

youre 100% off base

[vestal pier]

Off the goop man

[rigid crescent]

yup

[elfin cloak]

well mark my word
everything will be like i predict
but i really hope so that i'm wrong about all of it

but time will tell

[molten gale]

Spies I say

[rigid crescent]

im in vr so i dont have the patience to type out paragraphs on why youre wrong

but you are

[elfin cloak]

i just saying my thought's not ordering that something need to get done about it

[molten gale]

virtual desktop is shit yea

[elfin cloak]

that's all

and i'm out

[rigid crescent]

k

[molten gale]

the steam one has low quality and the oculus one doesnt work cuz steamvr

[vestal pier]

The steam one outputs at full resolution, if its "low quality" thats because of your HMD's panels my dude

You can also modify how close or far away it is, if you need to see it more up close

[molten gale]

What

i uh didnt understand that

[vestal pier]

You said that the steamvr virtual desktop is "low quality"

Im basically saying you're incorrect

[molten gale]

For me it is

or well maybe just because im stupid

I cant check atm im sadly on vacation

[vestal pier]

You can also modify how close or far away it is, if you need to see it more up close

[molten gale]

I mean its close enough

[vestal pier]

What HMD do you got?

[loud quail]

is the "spend 48 hours talking to strangers else you cant use your own avatar" rule still active?

[vestal pier]

What?

Oh you mean gaining access to uploading personal avatars

[loud quail]

yes

[molten gale]

48 is not true

[vestal pier]

The time it takes is relatively random.

[molten gale]

Everyone gets the ranks at different speeds

[loud quail]

so it's worse than i thought

[molten gale]

I for example recently got known user at 250

[loud quail]

250 hours?

[molten gale]

i got user at around uh 40

[slate verge]

48 hour is meant to be an estimation based on several users experiences, it was not implied that it will be given

[vestal pier]

Thats not what they are talking about Paci.

[molten gale]

You need a user rank to upload content i think

[vestal pier]

New user*

Yes but how many hours

[molten gale]

Oh new user?

After 10 hours

[vestal pier]

You got "Trusted User" with around 16 hours?

[slate verge]

new user is the blue rank

[molten gale]

I think i got new user after 10 or so hours

[vestal pier]

Forgive me if i dont believe you.

[molten gale]

I dont think those 16 hours are total playtime

but like 16 hours after the system got added

[loud quail]

thx for explaining

unfortunately i dont like that rule

[vestal pier]

@loud quail Everyone else does!

[slate verge]

no its fair cuz its random

[molten gale]

Its not random

it has a lot of factors to it

You have to make friends, favorite worlds and avatars and cant afk, get reported or kicked

uploading content and getting it featured also boosts a lot once you are able to

Those are some factors I heard about

[slate verge]

those are all the things you do to level up yes, but it does not trigger it ultimately

[molten gale]

Yeah

[placid zealot]

Just play like normal 🤷 Also don't get blocked/kicked.

[slate verge]

like it won't immediately boop changes your level at a certain time

basically yeah

[molten gale]

Yep

I got known user randomy while playing murder

Same

[vestal pier]

So hide your rank to appear as green 😏

[molten gale]

If I wouldnt get trashtalked for that, sure

[vestal pier]

So just switch to flex on a fool

[molten gale]

Also I feel like people treat you differently depending on your rank

And I am on vacation rn so I cant even do that lul

[rigid crescent]

ive never been treated any particular way and ive been green from day 1, and ive asked tons of strangers in publics too

[loud quail]

@vestal pier shrug. i'll keep waiting for its removal or just play else

[vestal pier]

What removal?

[molten gale]

That system wont get removed

[rigid crescent]

mainly ony older players care about the system from what ive learned

[loud quail]

shrug again then

[vestal pier]

The rule wont be removed, by the time you get the rank you want, youll understand why its not removed 😄

[loud quail]

nah, i'll play else

[molten gale]

I mean I took a long break from vrchat and recently just returned to it with vr

[rigid crescent]

i just let them leave

[loud quail]

not much to do anyway it's just a chat

[vestal pier]

Imagine if everyone and their mother could upload whatever they want, on new accounts!!

Absolute chaos!

[molten gale]

Ikr

[rigid crescent]

"just a chat" wel...yeah

[loud quail]

if i cant be what i want in a chat why bother

[vestal pier]

You can be what you want, after some time

[molten gale]

I dont even create content and just occasionally upload what friendd made me

Then why do you even play vrchat????

[rigid crescent]

just let them go, no one is ever convinced

[loud quail]

wanted to use my models

[vestal pier]

You can, soon.

[loud quail]

nah

[vestal pier]

Are you that impatient?

[molten gale]

^

[loud quail]

feels like wearing someone else's clothes for hours

uncomfortable af

[molten gale]

I mean I get that feel but still

[placid zealot]

It's not that deep me thinks 🤷

[vestal pier]

Youll survive 😅

[rigid crescent]

people who NEED their avatar to play are usually of a "certain" mindset

[loud quail]

again, it's not an issue, i have been waiting for a year, i'll do else

[rigid crescent]

bye

[molten gale]

You just accept it after a while

I wanted to have my own avy too

[placid zealot]

Then problem solved don't play the game 🤷

[loud quail]

it's what i've done

[molten gale]

That never happened so far

[vestal pier]

Bruh how many hours do you got in game?

[molten gale]

Who you askin

[loud quail]

13

[vestal pier]

The impatient one

13? and you've been making friends?

[molten gale]

13 is nothing

[slate verge]

discovering new avatar is the best

[loud quail]

no, it felt awkward as shit to just walk up to randoms and try to get into their convos

[molten gale]

I can relate

[loud quail]

just to get rid of a silly limitation

[vestal pier]

Do you play in vr?

[loud quail]

i did

[umbral reef]

You think once toy have your own avatar its easier to talk to humans?

[slate verge]

@loud quail its to prevent abuse

[molten gale]

I just got picked up by some extroverts

[loud quail]

i KNOW it is to prevent abuse

[vestal pier]

So you've accomplished one of the two tasks in the title of the app

[loud quail]

but it could've been managed differently

[molten gale]

Duude

[placid zealot]

How then?

[loud quail]

like with a twosteps verif

[molten gale]

How can you complain ifyou dont even play

[slate verge]

[vestal pier]

2FA Was only recently implemented

[placid zealot]

Well that would be easy to abuse xD

[loud quail]

after wasting 13 hours and not having fun, i'm not complaining, i'm saying the rule is silly

[vestal pier]

maybe the system will change, but i doubt it - because its literally fine th way it is

[molten gale]

The rule is good

[vestal pier]

OK but you're incorrect, Arah.

[loud quail]

believe what you want, i'll do the same

[slate verge]

@loud quail you know you can do emotes and hand gestures(shift + f1 to f8) right?

[loud quail]

yes

i'll craft myself some gloves eventually

[slate verge]

it gives you various expression and some avatars comes with their own musics and crazy animations

[rigid crescent]

just let them go, some people refuse to understand

[molten gale]

Those kind of avatars are only good on desktop

[slate verge]

[molten gale]

Its kinda sad but eh

[umbral reef]

Id say if you find a just as fool proof or more fool proof way to prevent bad people from gaming the system for ranking suggest it.
Wont hear me say its perfect, plenty can be tweaked right now without ruining the core but removing a bit of the bad. But your problem would still stand

[rigid crescent]

in the year theyve waited they couldve had their avatar, some people just dont care

[slate verge]

i know some people who learns how to make avatar in less than a week with full on expression and animation and that hurts me, cuz its been 3 months and i learn nothing lmao

[vestal pier]

I was 450 hours in before i even thought about making my own content

[placid zealot]

People learn at different speeds 😃

And same here.

[slate verge]

yeah and thats sad for me...

[molten gale]

I wanna give it a try but...

blender and unity scare me

[slate verge]

they are not that scary, its just time consuming

[placid zealot]

My first model was an anime model hastily thrown into mixamo nothing else XD

[rigid crescent]

i only started playing after having a model funny enough

[elfin cloak]

is it possible for modified client to make vrchat think that half of users are decided to kick some person from public world even if there is no-one decide to kick that person?

[molten gale]

The only modification ivr see so far

are from someoe that was unable to be kicked

and someone that said they could grab my ip

[rigid crescent]

what was the kick message

[elfin cloak]

i just appear in nhie
and i get kicked even if i am not do anything to anyone
is it possible that some "m" client do vote kicking for everyone or is it possible that lot of people get confused and kick me instead of actual troublemaker ?

[rigid crescent]

ok what was the kick message though?

[vestal pier]

There would be no reason for them to have that be a kick method when they can just put a portal on you and have you instantly leave.

[elfin cloak]

something say's about half of users decide to vote kick or something like that
i'm not so sure about it

[rigid crescent]

then they probably kicked you

[molten gale]

Maybe a group that just vote kicks people

[elfin cloak]

wow what are thumbasses they are so retarded

[loud quail]

in the year i haven't played i simply played actual games, why do you sound offended?

[rigid crescent]

wow rude

id kick you too lol

[elfin cloak]

yes cause they deserve it

[umbral reef]

Who says you didnt deserve the kick?

[rigid crescent]

odds are you did too with that attitude

[elfin cloak]

why cause i just appear and mind my own business and get quiet and i just want to play and nothing do to anyone
wow so you are the same just the rest of them
what a person you are
bravo
👏🏻

[vestal pier]

The best way to not get kicked or crashed is to not interact with those people

[rigid crescent]

yup, and ive never been votekicked so

better than you can say

[elfin cloak]

no comment
i'm out

[placid zealot]

🍿

[rigid crescent]

bye 👌

[covert blade]

Ooh I've missed out on the convo of the guy that refuses to play unless he has his own avatar

[loud quail]

you didnt

[placid zealot]

Oh no don't start

[loud quail]

please, you're welcome to feel offended

[wise perch]

....can we please not....

[slate verge]

[covert blade]

Are ya talkin' 'bout yourself or me? Cuz I can't tell

[placid zealot]

Aww here we go again

[loud quail]

you

[rigid crescent]

lol

[loud quail]

i simply dont play

[rigid crescent]

theyre always fun

[covert blade]

I'm not offended just because I think it's silly, but whatever. Didn't think you were still here

I thought this topic ended 20 mins ago

[loud quail]

i'm here for the avatars

wasted time on the game

[vestal pier]

Thats your own fault

[loud quail]

nah

[placid zealot]

Came rushing right back in the convo though as soon as it was mentioned.

[loud quail]

two monitors

[covert blade]

Well then let me ask you a question: What exactly is the reason you want to make avatars for a game that you don't like playing?

[loud quail]

€

same reason i draw

[vestal pier]

What kind of avatars do you make 😄

[loud quail]

still learning, the only one i'm satisfied of is sfw

yet to rig it

[umbral reef]

I dont see why you cant make avatars without being able to upload them. Testing might be hard but if you know what your doing its not too complex

Plenty of other third party tools to test things with also

[vestal pier]

Yeah, you dont have to upload to make

[loud quail]

gotta check if they work in game

gtg

[vestal pier]

Good luck!

[covert blade]

Is anyone somewhat experienced with the "Murder" game in VRChat?

[vestal pier]

In terms of what

[covert blade]

Do I just need to touch others with the knife, spam the trigger button or hold the trigger button to get 'em?

[vestal pier]

Oh, not sure

[covert blade]

I don't have anyone to test it with and usually the people in public lobbies aren't that willed to just stand there and let me stab 'em

[vestal pier]

I can hop in if you want to test

[runic hound]

You just need to touch them with the knife afaik

[covert blade]

I see, gonna try that. Because there's still the "Use" prompt so I wasn't sure how exactly the knife works

[runic hound]

Yeah, I think that's just there by default as it's a pickup item

[slate verge]

@covert blade you go through them and hope they disappeared

[covert blade]

Gotcha 👍

[slate verge]

if they do not then...you missed lol

but for some reason i heard that throwing knife actually works never tried it though

[covert blade]

Yeah, hit detection is super bad but if someone else charges me I'm dead before they even reach me

But I guess that means I can stop spamming my poor trigger button

[slate verge]

:]

[covert blade]

Also that weird moment when you're surrounded by mute desktop users

[covert blade]

Oh I just realized I can setup cameras around the map

[floral widget]

Sounds like that would lag a little

I've never done that tho so idk

[covert blade]

Depends. It's just the ingame camera that you have to take photos and selfies with

[floral widget]

Ah

[covert blade]

But you can also just drop the lens somewhere on the map, pick a different pin, drop that lens somewhere else and then you've got your own FNAF Style handheld surveillance system

[floral widget]

🤔🤔🤔

That sounds pretty neat

[covert blade]

Now if only there was a way to pick up the lens with your hand

Oh yeah you can throw the knife at someone and it can still kill them

[slate verge]

noice

[lusty owl]

Hewo

[slate verge]

hi

[versed hound]

You told me that you would not mind meeting me... @sonic verge

So I thought I would ask you now...

If you are busy or the offer is no longer vaild...

Then sorry for bothering you...

[jovial pulsar]

After the latest patch the bug with the favorite / unfavorite avatars is back again, cannot unfavorite public avatars now

Any idea how I fix it? A friend of mine can do it but I can't for some reason

[languid olive]

Hi

Anyone mind showing me around some cool worlds?

[elfin cloak]

@jovial pulsar

i think that this trick will work for you

try to unfavorite your avatar
and don't worry if you see that is not unfavorited
then try to use nikei legacy vrchat avatar
then logout and login again
then repeat your unfavoriting
or if you see that is already unfavorited
then try to favorite some of avatar's of your choice
that might fix your problem
because that trick work's for me

good luck

[languid olive]

I also am trying to see if I got TTS to work

[molten gale]

I would but im on vacation

Also my favorite bug is the one where you randomly cant see your favorited and sometimes not even your uploaded avatars

[jovial pulsar]

Will try

[vocal shard]

fin

[sonic verge]

@versed hound the offer never ends, but for now i cant get on for a little while, roughly 2 more weeks

[hallow trout]

anyone had this issue before, recently happened to me after the update that came out the other day https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470718792289353749/614857581457834005/unknown.png

[vestal pier]

Looks like a missing shader

Try verifying integrity of the game in steam

[fluid bloom]

Hewwo asis

[vestal pier]

👋

[molten gale]

So uh I discovered I have npc energy

[inner cape]

doesnt look like it

[molten gale]

I only talk to people when they talk to me, this only is true in vr and irl

[slim temple]

you just proved yourself wrong. 😛

but I guess chat is different from voice

[inner cape]

well, you're fine in chat, atleast in a public one

[umbral reef]

Pretty much the same paci

[vestal pier]

Npcs usually say stuff on their own in modern games

[molten gale]

Yeah

But only once interacted with

[slate verge]

yep npc energy here too

[molten gale]

And once that happens I shall return whenever possible unless they tell me to go away or I forgot who they are, dont wanna be annoying

Also a friend who is making me a world mentioned a secret loli room which might be lewd... im scared to upload that if they actually add it... i dont want my account get banned for that...

[umbral reef]

We should start a NPC energy gang

[molten gale]

Im scared

[umbral reef]

But we wont as that takes too much energy

[molten gale]

I wanna upoad that world

Ikr

[inner cape]

npc energy gang

a gang where no one ever talks to each other

[molten gale]

Oh trust me, once interacted with, I shall return plenty of times

[umbral reef]

Ghosto go make it

You got more energy then us

[inner cape]

I dont have npc energy to be in that gang

[molten gale]

Once I made friends with someone, they accepted the quest. The quest is me.

[umbral reef]

Yea but we are npc's to you then or some thing like that

[inner cape]

I'm not dealing with a group of npcs

[molten gale]

Anyways im scared about the world my friend is making me

Well too bad interacting with us is part of the main plotline

[inner cape]

having to deal with npc energy people have given me enough anxieties, I'm good

[molten gale]

What

[umbral reef]

wowie you saying i bring you anxiety

[inner cape]

not you

I meant in the past

[stoic halo]

im working on a project of importing all the models of Persona 3 Dance and Persona 5 dance, and the costume variations of the characters. this is gonna be painful

[covert blade]

So I was playing some Murder 2 and placing cameras around the map does work pretty well, although not very practical most of the time
https://i.imgur.com/kbkt75B.jpg

[molten gale]

H

Murder 2 is so broken

[covert blade]

Yup

My average life-span in a match is about 5 seconds

[molten gale]

Circlegrouping, making guns disappear and glitching back into the map

[covert blade]

Circlegrouping is bad

[molten gale]

Yeah

[covert blade]

Had three people who would always stand in the same circle so sometimes there's three murderes

[molten gale]

Oh 3 isnt bad

[covert blade]

The good thing is that if you know one of 'em is bad, all of 'em are bad

[molten gale]

try 6 or 7

[covert blade]

They all looked similar too. Like a happy lil family

Revenge was mine whenever I had the gun though

[inner cape]

my first experience with murder was a movie tier detective story, instead of running around we tried to find out who is who by questioning, mind games and etc
when it became the chaos it is now I quickly got bored of it

[molten gale]

Im good with the gun

Because theres a trick to it

[covert blade]

My first experience was randomly dying and not knowing how

[molten gale]

lul

Anyways brb gonna shower

[inner cape]

[covert blade]

Current experience is that the detective is the true murderer

[molten gale]

I always purposefuly get myself shot when im murderer and never randomly shoot anyone when I got a gun

[inner cape]

publics are a no go for murder
I prefer the organized friends+ lobbies

[covert blade]

That requires friends

[molten gale]

ikr

[inner cape]

oh, sorry

🚶

[covert blade]

Also looking for clues = death. Waiting in lobby = death by pistol

I do love the moments when I throw the knife and somehow hit the guy across the room

I wonder if having a super small avatar makes it more difficult to be killed

[inner cape]

yes

unless it puts an even collider on all players _onJoin

[covert blade]

Hard to tell when sometimes it seems like there's no collider at all

[inner cape]

true

[covert blade]

Like there was that one time where someone tried to stab me half a dozen times and I tried to shoot him and neither of us would die

Now, gonna have to figure out how I can wear my headphones more comfortably

[molten gale]

Ping Crimson

[covert blade]

Who's dat

And for wat

[molten gale]

Its a jojoke

[inner cape]

a good one

[molten gale]

I wanna get home so I can play vrchat

[inner cape]

that's my line

[molten gale]

no

[jovial pulsar]

Hmm

The avatar favorite is still bugged, tried the workaround that one dude posted but didn't work :c

[unkempt sun]

holaa

[vagrant tendon]

anyone know where to get a good quality ODST model?

[rough pulsar]

I've seen a few worlds with some in, but it does depend on what you mean by good quality

[vagrant tendon]

pretty much something not low poly like where they have cubed fingers and all that

[rough pulsar]

Most of the ones with improved fingers I think are people's personal ones.

[hybrid prism]

@vagrant tendon most odst models are game rips or anything from Gary's mod

[vagrant tendon]

ah ok, Thank you both

[coral vessel]

#bringbackveteranrank

[ruby needle]

Because?

[umbral reef]

Ego and bragging rights

Because that is what a trust system needs

[vernal forge]

doubt 9001

[molten gale]

I can smell the sarcasm

[obtuse linden]

timed out and crashed, anyone? lul

[foggy summit]

question - How does one find a listed event in vrchat? I know the event is on right now, but there is no list or rooms or events in world

[sullen escarp]

#removeranks

[molten gale]

Ever meet 9 to 12 year olds in public worlds

Like why

[inner cape]

@foggy summit check pins in #events , you can join events in that discord

[molten gale]

Why do such young people use vrchat

Ive seen two 10 year olds chase each other in the black cat wanting to drink alcohol

[inner cape]

why do children do [thing they aren't supposed to do]

[molten gale]

True

[inner cape]

cause they saw other people do [x]

[meager solstice]

i mean to be fair, its just a free steam game

[molten gale]

Half of them even have vr

[meager solstice]

blame the parents?

[molten gale]

Yeah true

[vocal shard]

I've been confessed to by a 10 yr old oof

I felt bad ;-;

[molten gale]

Your name strikes fear in me

[vocal shard]

Lol

[inner cape]

wish someone confessed to me 😔

[vocal shard]

oOf

[molten gale]

I agree

[inner cape]

(not a 10 year old tho)

[molten gale]

I hope a dude in my friend circle does

Most of the girls are taken

[vocal shard]

I've had like 3 people think I was a little boy, a 10 yr old confess, and some people think one of my vrchat friends like me (who is also very young)

[inner cape]

you're an actual mom

its shota time

[vocal shard]

My user is for the memes

oof

[molten gale]

Hmm theres so many great people in my friends list

And half of my friendslist is completely alien to me

I actally forgot who half of the people are

[vocal shard]

Oof im pretty sure I remember most of the people whos till come online on mine

[meager solstice]

i think i have around 900 people added

ik maybe 200?

[vocal shard]

I prob have like maybe 104 dif people (both my accs friends combined tho)

[molten gale]

I have 95

i took a big break from vrchat

[vocal shard]

Im still pretty new to vrchat (only been playing for like 4 months) so I dont have many

[rigid crescent]

i only add people i actually know and are friends with and purge people i havent seen in ages who dont make an effort to see me (and who i dont make an effort to see obviously) because theres no point in them being there

[vocal shard]

I just accept whoever send me a request. I don't send request unless somebody asks me to oof

[ivory axle]

oh yes being timed out again

[molten gale]

I only accept when I actually talked to the person a bit and know ill enjoy being around them

[ivory axle]

gg devs

[vocal shard]

I always feel bad if I decline a request or an invite so I try not to oof

[spare flower]

does anyone know why i see black screen on video player even after i updated youtube.dl

[molten gale]

ask support

Also complaining about crashes wont fix it

Video players are very buggy

[inner cape]

wise words coming from a young soul

[molten gale]

Some videos will never play actually

Some of the music i listen to will never play while other videos do perfectly

I think it has to do with copyright

[ruby needle]

If the content is blocked in your region, it obviously wont play

[molten gale]

No it isnt

[mellow parcel]

vrchat players frozen for anyone else????

[rancid vessel]

My connection has started to get timed out on VRChat again like earlier this year >_> Ugh I would hate to have to get my ISP back out here again over it losing signal to the coaxial cable That would be dumb lol

[snow nimbus]

Frozen over here

[fast dawn]

ye vrchat acting up yet another time lol

[mellow parcel]

no its vrchat 3rd time this week

[ivory axle]

exavtly up your game devs

honestly if this problem has been happening for the past 24 hours to everyone wouldnt they have tried to fix it

[fast dawn]

word

[molten gale]

Complaining wont fix it

[ivory axle]

doing nout wont either

[molten gale]

Maybe they are doing stuff

[ivory axle]

atleast the devs can do something but do we see changes

[vocal shard]

yay http://xor.meo.ws/f2103128/80d8/4155/9d15/e91c61e1a047.png :/

[ivory axle]

na

[molten gale]

Its not as easy to fix all stuff

server issues usually take a while to get fixed

[ivory axle]

atleast acknowledge what they broke in anniuncements or something

[molten gale]

Even on services with way more staff

[fast dawn]

shouldn't take 24+ hours to get a temporary patch still

[mellow parcel]

in a murder game about 14 people just dc

[molten gale]

Maybee they dont know yet

[spare flower]

they are small team of like 20 of so

[ivory axle]

well thats just stupid

[fast dawn]

that's why we letting them know here

[molten gale]

Even discord sometimes takes hours tp even find whats causing the problem

[ivory axle]

weve been complaining

[molten gale]

And discord has waaaaay more staff

[ivory axle]

for days.

[glossy wharf]

Discord also has more users, a huge codebase, a way bigger server network.

[fast dawn]

vrchat should get a bigger team then

[molten gale]

But discord only has to do text and images

[glossy wharf]

Are you joking

[molten gale]

Not full 3d movement and such

[ivory axle]

its gotten so bad its impacting my internet too

up your game devs

[spare flower]

easily said than done, they are recruiting people on twitter

[glossy wharf]

The VRChat servers do less than the discord servers lol

[molten gale]

How do you know

[ivory axle]

its obvious tf

[molten gale]

I mean per user

[gilded helm]

Look at the value of the company

[glossy wharf]

Because ive been following the development of this game since 2017 and stuff like network ik and co were introduced to move most data to the client

the server just synchs the data.

[molten gale]

Just let the devs do their stuff

[ivory axle]

they arent doing anything

[glossy wharf]

Wrong.

[molten gale]

Rushing out a fix that might not even fix it and maybe even make matters worse is a bad idea

[glossy wharf]

They are constantly developing the game, its early access, let them work on it.

[ivory axle]

i dont see any announcments

[mellow parcel]

this is still third time this week

[fast dawn]

^

[ivory axle]

atleast show some sort of concern

[gilded helm]

I wouldn't agree that they're not doing anything, but I wouldn't say that complaining is useless

[glossy wharf]

Complaining like this in here is absolutely useless.

[molten gale]

Yup

[glossy wharf]

If you have a concern send it to their feedback mail or post it on the canny.

[ivory axle]

i honestly have just gotten impatient first day was meh but now its taking the mick

[molten gale]

Just saying "it crashed" over and over again wont help

[ivory axle]

HA like theyd notice

[molten gale]

They likely already did

[gilded helm]

Seems to be the most effective way to get something changed nowadays in games

cry on reddit

[glossy wharf]

Not with VR

[ivory axle]

fine, losing connection, timing iut, impacting the whole instance, also impacting internet to crash, happy?

[gilded helm]

Might be different

[glossy wharf]

If you wanna get stuff in vrchat changed -> Canny

[molten gale]

Let them work in peace

[mellow parcel]

me and my friends playing murder mystery during class trial and 4 people are left the body is still missing and the murderer

[ivory axle]

no because they would doo lally whilst we suffer constantly

[molten gale]

How retarded are you

[ivory axle]

ive been losing connection non stop

[molten gale]

Not eveything is centered around you

[ivory axle]

some sort of encouragement should happen

[fast dawn]

we all have

[ivory axle]

no but to everyone

[molten gale]

They are likely working on it

[ivory axle]

like im in an instance rn and everyone is pissed

[spare flower]

just saying, "This Early Access game is not complete". But you could help sending them the crash folder and crash log

[fast dawn]

would be nice if they confirmed it

[molten gale]

This is early access for a reason

[ivory axle]

yeah but some developement should happen jesus

[molten gale]

The game is not complete and you have no right to complain

[spare flower]

it did

[ivory axle]

fixes shouldnt make it worse

[nimble linden]

Sometimes joining worlds in vrchat causes my ethernet adapter to crash lol

[molten gale]

They are constantly developing

They are working on drasticly improving load times I think

[ivory axle]

downgrading more like

[spare flower]

they have been changing alot, although it's annoying for me that i can't watch movie with my friends

[molten gale]

Of course changing things brings up issues

[ivory axle]

tbh you cant even do anything

[molten gale]

Well you should expect it from an early access game

[ivory axle]

but it causes so many issues was it even worth updating

[gilded helm]

can we just take some time to process that adjusting player volume is "under review"

[mellow parcel]

wait what?

[ivory axle]

wat

[gilded helm]

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/adjust-volume-of-individuals

[molten gale]

I mean for each person individually isnt as easy

[spare flower]

make new stuff>bug>fix bug>new minor update> more bugs> fix bugs>more bugs on other part. cycle continues

[ivory axle]

wOaH iTs a gAmE cHAnGeR

[fast dawn]

lol

[gilded helm]

It's a basic feature that should have been there from the get-go

[molten gale]

Dude

[ivory axle]

exactly

[spare flower]

ahem, early access

[molten gale]

its e a r l y a c c e s s

[ivory axle]

heres some fancy shmansy volume control

[molten gale]

Its not complete yet

[ivory axle]

how about sort out connection issues

[fast dawn]

early access or not, ppl can and will still complain. that is something game developers must and do expect

[gilded helm]

is that all you have to say

[ivory axle]

befpre making it pretty

[molten gale]

How about stopping to complain

[ivory axle]

pac

[spare flower]

never been an huge issues for connection tbh

[ivory axle]

iTs EaRly AcCeSs

[molten gale]

Yes

[fast dawn]

lol

[molten gale]

The game is not complete yet

[nimble linden]

If people don't talk about issues they're experiencing, things won't get fixed

[ivory axle]

its happened for days that ive seen affect whole instances

[fast dawn]

^

[gilded helm]

you can't critisize something that isn't complete yet

[ivory axle]

exsctly

[nimble linden]

so "early access" just seems like a cop out

[molten gale]

How about you see it like this

[mellow parcel]

oh my fucking god entorix speaks holy words

[spare flower]

yes, complain with info to tell them what happened so they can fix. not just saying "it broke"

[ivory axle]

omfg i just said

rU BlInD

[spare flower]

"its happened for days" bruh, you think technical stuff fix in a day?

[molten gale]

They could just work on it privately and not make it public, but instead they gave us a chance to experience it already and help its development

[ivory axle]

i think we deserve some sort of announcement atleast

[fast dawn]

paci, they are game devs, they dont cry if people complain, they are used to it, it is a part of their job lmao

[nimble linden]

Everybody here needs to take a step back for a second and evaluate whether they are defending the game because they like it and can't accept that anything could be wrong with it

[ivory axle]

thats y ur not a game dev pac

hahaha

i do like it im just complaining

[molten gale]

Neither are you

[gilded helm]

wow it's almost like early access is a economic decision

[ivory axle]

otherwise they wont know

[spare flower]

i am defending on the fact that whining doesn't help

[gilded helm]

because it's free fucking beta testing

[molten gale]

Most of us here dont program

[ivory axle]

its informing.

sure assume that pac

[nimble linden]

and telling people that whining doesn't help, also, ironically, doesn't help

[mellow parcel]

^^^^^^^^

[molten gale]

Its not many people working on this game, they cant fix stuff as fast as big companies

[fast dawn]

see urself as a car mechanic, juat sold a car, customer complains, you fix whst they complained for to do customer service

[ivory axle]

exactlyy

criticism

[spare flower]

So you are saying, early access game is not enough for you. You are required to be informed for every little broken shit they have. feel free to read cranny mate

[ivory axle]

early access = 2 years

lmao

[rigid crescent]

And?

[spare flower]

Ahem, no man sky

[rigid crescent]

Can you explain why that matters?

"Early Access" is simply a way for it to be on Steam.

[molten gale]

Some games are in early access for a decade

[gilded helm]

Also idk how you use early access as an excuse for the fact that a planned feature, is now "under review"

[nimble linden]

All I'm saying is that NOTHING is exempt from criticism

[gilded helm]

one of the most basic and essential feature for a SOCIAL GAME

[ivory axle]

jeesus christ im just complaining

im out bois hahaha

[rigid crescent]

Complain with reason then

[ivory axle]

i am shut ur mouth

[fast dawn]

he did

[spare flower]

that's true, but i don't think complain for the sake of "i want this done in a week" is not a good reason

[fast dawn]

he just said ''pls make the game playable'' lol

[spare flower]

beside, you can complain all you want here but they don't go search in discord and see who is complaining what. You better off sending them mails

[ivory axle]

well a little announcement ibstead of leaving us in the dark would be nice

[gilded helm]

Using "it's early access" for everything is literally how you destroy the games u love

[molten gale]

What

[rigid crescent]

"Please make the game playable" is extremely vague.

[gilded helm]

I never said anything about that

But yeah I do agree

it's pretty useless

[ivory axle]

we finna be a toxic community

[rigid crescent]

No one is using "its early access" for everything, we use it for the same handful of issues people continuously bring up

[ivory axle]

oof on em