Just sat on the bed, and then put on my trackers and pick them up.
#vrchat-general-2
ruby burrow
languid beacon
I did the drum thing I was told about . I didnโt have any issues controlling the correct fingers it worked flawlessly I just didnโt like how the movement feels a little robotic (no spread as open your hand)
ruby burrow
I wonder if changing that routine would help keep it more accurate.
languid beacon
I think it should blend into open hand when you fully let go
rough pulsar
Well you could do that by altering the muscle ranges of your avatar
languid beacon
No one opens their hand and keeps all fingers together. Unless you are doing boi ๐
I mean for specific gestures like
Spread for open hand only
And peace
rough pulsar
Ah, for that, hmm.
rough pulsar
Well they do currently have two (nonsensically positioned) thumb poses for touching of the A or B button, so open hand but touching one of those could be a โ and open hand with no button touch could be a ๐
languid beacon
Like as you get close to doing a perfect open hand or peace gesture increase spread a little
I think that would work out well since thatโs what you tend to be doing with your hands in those cases
rough pulsar
Exactly
Although as far as I know the current system is a kind of stopgap until full steamvr input 2.0
because currently is it not
languid beacon
When mobile headsets can rival a gtx 970 I think weโll be fine and pc-less vr can just take over
ruby needle
the gpu performance is one thing
the main processing is typically more made for multiple programs / threats rather then stronger individual ones
that's gonna be a bigger bother for performance hungry games.
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
burnt tartan
ah
vocal shard
starting to think FPaul has that set to a hotkey
vocal shard
plucky zinc
does anyone have contact info for this person? https://www.vrchat.net/home/user/usr_ca0856e9-06dd-4b53-acd4-04b117ed46f7
fox3125 (hamster0120)
dense wigeon
does anyone know why im still a visitor rank even though i got 20+ hours in this game now and my friend told me to add as many friends as possible. I got over 75 friends on my account atm.. my friend wants me to rank up so he can give me an avatar
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
dense wigeon
oh i see, Thank you so much โค
unborn dune
Can't log into the site on my phone. It lets me in for a second, kicks me out and then I log in again and brings me to the service agreement thing, accept that, then it logs me out again and that just repeats
indigo fern
Paul's just spamming at this point lmao, could've just told that person to scroll up a bit 
hushed drift
hi, how much does it cost to comission a vrchat avatar?
like im looking at a rough guide, i have an idea for an avatar, wondering if my desire to have it now for $$ outweighs my desire to have it later and build it from scratch
rigid crescent
Anywhere from a dollar to thousands, all depends on what you want, how you want it, and who makes it
there's really no set answer though
hushed drift
what if the entire body can be made just by pulling a freely available model?
its basically a giant hand
if i show you a photo do you think you can give me a more accurate figure?
rigid crescent
Probably not, simple in design doesn't equate to simple to import
hushed drift
what generally makes them so expensive?
im a noob so all of the process seems long and arduous to me equally
rigid crescent
The work/effort required, or the work/effort put into learning the skills to do the specific thing you want, the person's preferrence, just about anything
thats hwy its such a wide field
hushed drift
ah
rigid crescent
better off just asking in the traders discord, its in #community-servers-old
hushed drift
shall do
worthy dust
So I have only 89 hours on vrchat and I'm already at user rank. Is that good?
hushed drift
all i know is i got to level 1 after spending half a week while i was sick all my time in vrchat
then i got super happy because i could import a ripped avatar
then sad because 5 minutes after i found someone else with a more perfectly imported version of the same one
covert blade
@hushed drift The first one is Visitor, then New User, then User
hushed drift
oh
covert blade
User is also the rank where you have access to everything related to content creation. You can upload avatars as early as New User, but public worlds require User rank
So it's like the bare minimum for content creators.... I mean, content "creators" to be able to do everything
So maybe at one point VRC Devs realize all the other ranks don't add anything meaningful and remove them.
inb4 a lot of pissed off people because muh purple name gone
leaden lava
e
covert blade
<@&397642795457970181> spammed it in other channels too. @leaden lava
covert blade
But why did you just mention the chat mods?
vestal pier
what was spammed
still lark
some line
covert blade
Literally just "e"
But across probably all channels
Imo, typing the exact same thing across four channels count as spam
vocal shard
New to VRChat here, I was on last week and everything was fine but, when I went on yesterday most of other users avatars where grey bot-looking ones. I tried to use the safety options to alow for animations,shaders, etc; to on but nothing happened. I need help๐
covert blade
@vocal shard Do you know where the performance tab is?
vestal pier
I can only see e in three channels
analog latch
๐ค
covert blade
I'll just take the silence of the moderators as them slowly but surely disapproving of me constantly mentioning them
vocal shard
@covert blade yes
covert blade
@vocal shard Just go to the performance tab, set that to "Very poor" and you should be able to see just about everything
Don't blame me if your PC goes up in flames because it can't handle the rendering though
vocal shard
@covert blade ok, thanks will try when I get back on
thick dirge
๐
dusky cloak
Hey everyone. I have a technical question. I recently purchased a gaming PC. I donโt have a PCVR HMD yet, but I got Steam VR running on my Quest. It works perfect, except after playing for awhile a IPD box popped up telling me the distance between my eyes and I canโt for the life of me figure out how to get rid of it. I restarted Steam, VRChat, my Quest, and my PC. However it keeps popping back up every time I launch the Steam VR version of VRChat.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
languid beacon
I don't know if anyone out there is having the same issues as me but I get way lower FPS on the Steam version of VRChat Client compared to the Oculus VRChat client. This is a problem for me because with Oculus hybrid fullbody, you need to use the steam version. I just found out that if I set my manual supersamling rate to 0.1, I get perfect 90 FPS just like the Oculus client. This is supposed to make your view very blury, but for some reason, it has no visual effect, except causing the game to run at a smooth 90. Try it, not sure if it's just me.
still lark
is that 1.1 or 0.1?
Because 0.1% of your screen is gonna be a few hundred pixels. lol
languid beacon
That's my point, yes, set to absolute minimum
for whatever reason it has no effect on resolution like it's supposed to, but I still get the huge FPS boost
it's broken, basically
storm stag
Does anyone have problems like the longer you stay in a world the more player's Voice and IK desync?
Till everyone becomes a Mute in your side?
cobalt cedar
Why do people still use crashers?
queen mango
Their joy in expense of others.
vocal shard
anyone down to just chill and talk in a private world?
I have the problem where every time I hop to a new world or tweak my sound settings my Bluetooth headset looses all audio. The only way to fix it so far is to turn off my headset and turn it back on every time
hollow breach
@storm stag happens in void club for me
storm stag
I duno 2 days ago I've been having this problem.
The only way to fix this is I have to rejoin the same world.
zealous geyser
ever get that feel when someone offers you a hug but you're a desktop user and cannot hug back
errant cloud
Good morning :))
molten path
good morning
soft sun
Hey i am not sure if this is the right place to put this question, but does anyone know where the anime creeper girl with idle animations is? I should also mension she can explode.
please dm or @ me if you have any lead to where it may be
thank you!
slim monolith
i have a problem in vrchat... everytime i go to look at the main mirror in the pug the mirror stops refrecting.. is it my game or the world ? and how can i prevent it?
daring grove
this game is awesome
can only find a couple worlds with like 10-20 people on them though
am i searching wrong or is this usually the peak?
vestal pier
You can go higher but thats typically peak
You dont go over that unless theres an event happening
The maximum there can be is around 80
rotund wren
@daring grove so the mirror is on until you get closer to is? ๐ค
vocal shard
rift s caps at 80... you can get 144 on the index
vestal pier
Rift S refresh rate is 80??
meager solstice
yes @vestal pier
vestal pier
damn
meager solstice
yeah thats one of the reasons some people dont really see the rift s as an upgrade from the rift
slim monolith
@rotund wren if you intended to tag me , yeah the mirror is on until i get close
but in other worlds with big mirrors (example : void , rain room , the box , etc...) doesn't happen
white lichen
why are 80% of all the people in VRChat i see always are always sexual?
vestal pier
What maps are you going to?
white lichen
i go mainly to murder, but like half of the people always talk about seuxal stuff or use avatars that nearly expose every part of their body
vestal pier
You can block avatars and mute people, if that stuff makes you uncomfortable
meager solstice
alot of people want the "cute" models and thats what the current avatar trend is
slim monolith
becouse in vrchat you can be whoever or whatever you want... and many ppl want to be sexy and /or just want to be a neko human hybrid with cuteness overloaded
thats my theory
vestal pier
Thats not a theory its more of just a general description
slim monolith
well.. i called it a theory becouse i was not sure 100% about it XD
vocal shard
don't many people dream of being in an anime character's body? VRChat does just that
no wonder
slim monolith
true
solemn vine
I found that more work is put into the female avatars as well, I have both male and female (and others ofc ๐ avatars but among the ones I found the female ones are better quality.
slim monolith
who doesn't want to get a lap dance from a hot neko anime girl that kinda feels real ? 
@solemn vine now that you pointed that out.. you'r right
solemn vine
@slim monolith haha, the hauptic fullbody suit will do wonders for neko anime avatars ;).
solemn vine
looks over at @snow wadi 's avatars yep, way more work ๐
slim monolith
XD
vestal pier
Those are scratch avatars, regardless of gender theyre more work than average.
solemn vine
true dat, sorry, impressive nonetheless ๐
wait, scratch avatars? might have thought of the wrong thing and not sure I know what you meant?
slim monolith
well.. as a XigneoN's fan , and server user.. i can say that 98% are female avatars (regardless the irl gender ) 1% random creatures and 1% males
rough pulsar
Woohoo, I am finally part of the 1%
slim monolith
so @white lichen does that answer your question ? XD
meager solstice
I'm apart of the 1% than
slim monolith
well.. you are truly unique
meager solstice
๐ฎ
slim monolith
on the other hand.. im not.. im either on the 98% or a thomas the train and spider hybrid ( my form when ppl won't leave me alone XD )
vestal pier
Im a big alien in a box
vestal pier
beautiful spore
meager solstice
who would have thought that spore would be good to make models in
slim monolith
the funny thing about being part of the 98% is that when "thirsty" ppl tell me something like " YoU tHiCk " i reply with thx .. but i have a D ... and then i see them turn around and disconnect XD
solemn vine
@slim monolith Silly people not knowing how to say "no homo", solves everything ๐
slim monolith
@solemn vine personally i don't find it necessary, becouse you are actually looking at e female body , you can't see the person behind the screen/hmd
and its not a trap either, becouse a trap is a feminine bod but with the D... and if you have that in the game you get banned for innapropriate character, so that makes almost everyone genderless ...
mindblow
vestal pier
No.
slim monolith
๐ฆ why .. its technically true
vestal pier
No
slim monolith
๐ฆ buy why tho แ( เฒ _เฒ แ)
vestal pier
Because you're wrong.
slim monolith
r/technicallythetruth
vestal pier
You're incorrect.
slim monolith
bruhhhhh
solemn vine
@slim monolith I like that idea, that people wouldn't care what gender you're behind the hmd =). Not really sure about the genderless thing though, respectfully; when in irl I don't check inside other peoples clothes (without permission ofc) but I have a general idea about their gender. I view this the same way, don't go looking inside other avatars clothes but generally I think I know what their genders are (not the real people now, just the avatars :p) if not told otherwise ๐
slim monolith
im not checking under other ppl's clothing XD thats rude, but its just an assumption since certain type on nsfw models are not allowed
@vocal shard thats why when it happens i transform into thomas the train and a mech spider mix
they just run away
solemn vine
@slim monolith hehe, not implying you are so we're good ;).
@vocal shard love the personal space settings sometimes, though it freaked me out before I knew why people around me just suddenly disappeared :p
slim monolith
and i know how you feel.. a couple of days ago i was at the void and someone let thayr area 51 alien out and joined the room .. he started to slap everyone's a** XD
what? why that reaction ?
i do have a screen of that alien if anyone can recognize him and take it back home XD but i don know if im allowed to post pics here ( names hidded )
these area 51 raiders freed too many aliens and im seeing them everywhere
solemn vine
would be lovely to have an option to block an actual avatar instead of the user, regardless of who uses it, I think that would solve a lot of problems ;).
heading off to work, take care all you lovely people!
slim monolith
ture.. and i should do the same thing XD cya ppl
vocal shard
hmm
languid beacon
True but they can just upload it as a unique blueprint
vocal shard
- Greatly improved avatar loading time
i am so happy this has now been rolled out into the release, been waiting for this since the open beta test
huh i have just started playing VRchat today and there's already an update
nimble linden
Does the new update mean we have to use triggers to pick up objects?
or is it just for interactable triggers other than pickupables
dusky mesa
Why remove the grip?!?!
covert chasm
Pick up still occurs on grip. Trigger is used for "Interact"
nimble linden
ok good thank god
covert chasm
Grip still does things, just not "sit in seat" or etc.
nimble linden
I would really prefer it as an option though, as I did get used to grip for interact
fluid bloom
Tupper does that mean that finger tracking wont trigger gestures on rift s anymore?
noble dirge
that was the exact question i was about to ask, Thanks Tupper
dusky mesa
VRChat has very limited settings and needs more variable options
vocal shard
Whats the downside without the vr headset
dusky mesa
oh no. what's gonna happen to the xbox controller support for VRChat
if grip is being removed for interactions
fluid bloom
Can someone translate the whole grip thing into dumbass?
I dunno what changed lol
dusky mesa
@fluid bloom side trigger pressy button on side of controller dont make you do the sitting or interacting anymore
fluid bloom
Oh so only the 1 button does it now?
dusky mesa
yes. only the front trigger interacts now
fluid bloom
Yesss
Ok ty
Im on vacation so i couldnt test it in game
dusky mesa
Tupper still has yet to optimize their game though. It's never gonna happen.
placid umbra
I've been excited for this one, avatar load times 
fluid bloom
^
dusky mesa
but what about optimization
final vale
holy heck the avatarrs now load in 2 seconds
dusky mesa
for potato users?
charred siren
but what broke
floral aspen
I feel like improved avatar load times would fall under optimization
dusky mesa
not at all
floral aspen
How so?
dusky mesa
optimization make game run more lightly and faster
meaning less RAM usage and CPU usage
I remember when VRChat didn't take up 3GB of RAM
covert chasm
Unfortunately almost all of that is entirely dependent on the content you load, but I am glad we were able to get a huge avatar load optimization into this version ๐
floral aspen
Avatar optimization is up to the user
covert chasm
We could reduce texture size, polygon count, component count, that kinda stuff... but considering that's up to the creator, that's a bit out of our hands ^^
floral aspen
^
dusky mesa
90% of avatars are considered "very poor" to VRChat's system. If that were more optimized, most avatars would be more "normal" rather than being so poor
desert stratus
...what? are you suggesting that the goalpost for the block system should be pushed back?
dusky mesa
i'm saying it should be more optimized
livid delta
Avatars load within seconds now. Good job VRC team ๐
desert stratus
more optimized in what way? in general, the current system is somewhat alright imo
floral aspen
What would you suggest then?
dusky mesa
AT&T
placid umbra
I changed my safety settings in an instance with 50 people and it took ~5 seconds to update the whole room
desert stratus
my primary gripes being that there's not as much consideration being put into hidden objects and anims
floral aspen
That's awesome Aev
dusky mesa
well I'm upgrading to 16GB RAM with a Ryzen 5 tomorrow so that should work fine
desert stratus
other than that, the rest of it (# of active meshes, tris, and materials) is pretty accurate.
jovial pulsar
Yeah, it's for everyone I think
night pike
Long avatar loading times take away from the experience, it's a huge change when it used to take 4 minutes to load all avatars if there were even remotely complex avatars and 10 people in room. Now it took only one minute.
vocal shard
this update is buggy
jovial pulsar
The new loading now is INSANE
It took me 2-3 seconds to load every avatar in a full pug
Though the menu broke ๐ข
unkempt cliff
Man Iโm still waiting for material swapping and particles to correctly appear in mirrors.
placid umbra
Haven't seen flickering issues, please record it if possible and post on Canny and we'll take a look.
unkempt cliff
Lol
jovial pulsar
Will do
vocal shard
ill try to record
jovial pulsar
Alright, recorded it.
night pike
oh yay the game doesnt permamently freeze anymore when quiting
digital lintel
Desktop? VR? What headsets?
naive finch
What's the best headset I can get for the lowest cost?
sinful matrix
Desktop and i hera more people in VRmode to
vocal shard
Rift S is the best all around value for the price and experience
night pike
Just make sure you have around 64mm ipd before getting it
naive finch
64mm ipd?
desert stratus
spacing between your pupils
naive finch
Ahh
desert stratus
rift s has fixed lenses, and you may be really sensitive to this, especially after long-term use
if you can, try to demo it before you buy
vocal shard
The distance between your pupils. Everyone is a bit different. Rift S works best at 64, but users claim 59-69 works well too due to the better lenses
sinful matrix
Even when you click on the invites no information will appearing
naive finch
I do also wear contacts, is that an issue with vr?
digital lintel
Oh boy. That doesn't sound fun Rias.
vocal shard
No
night pike
Um really? How did they fix the lenses?
vocal shard
The rift S lenses have a huge sweet spot. Larger than most other VR Headsets now
jovial pulsar
Uploaded it onto Ufile and put it on the canny, upload limit is only 4mb and the video was 11
naive finch
Thank you for the help!
desert stratus
@night pike fixed as in not moving
vocal shard
Rift S sweet spot is much larger than Vive and rift, and the sweetspot is supposedly larger than Index, although when inside the index sweet spot, range of clarity to the edge of the screen on the index is a bit better
night pike
Oh I thought you meant they fixed the lenses to work better in newly made units
vocal shard
Ok i have the video of the UI jitter ill post it on the vrchat-videos channel
taking a sec to post it
desert stratus
that would be a dream. then the rift s could properly take its place as best intro / casual pc headset
night pike
The sweet spot is definitelly bigger than on quest but my eyes started hurting after just 15 minutes on rift s.
heavy ledge
is the a way to tell the difference with the rift s software ipd cause i cant tell the difference
btw
vocal shard
What's your IPD? On Reddit, people were claiming up to 69 worked for them. I'm 60 and rift S was perfect for me
Darn i cant post it at the moment
just gonna have to take my word for it
vernal forge
is the rift s big enough for glasses ? basic rift seems to be too small
heavy ledge
idk tbh but its to where i can see perfectly. i was just wondering if there was a difference
versed hound
Did they fix it so I can report assholes again...
vocal shard
Yes, the Rift S can also adjust how far the lenses are from your face to fit glasses better
night pike
it's about 58, quest can go down to 58 so that's lucky.
vernal forge
ohh that is neat addition
vocal shard
Ah, yeah that's pretty low.
heavy ledge
i must have the sweet spot cause everything is crystal cleaf
vocal shard
Nice ^^
versed hound
I want them to fix report...
night pike
Rift s is really comfortable for sure, that is something wish quest had done way better
As in s doesnt hurt your forehead or anything
heavy ledge
yes i fall asleep with my headset a lot due to it being so comfortable
vernal forge
have anyone tried rift s vive hybrid tho ?
versed hound
They are called downdates for a reason...
vocal shard
Yeah there are a few who do the hybrid for full body
night pike
Yes finally the new sdk downloaded, those qol improvements are very welcome
slender ridge
I never wrote on the official server before I think... ...But damn, this update broke everything for me. My menu is dying, buttons and mirrors are only working with one of the two triggers now, and some people ain't even able to change avatars anymore.
white storm
how weird
covert chasm
Buttons can only be interacted with the Trigger on your controller now-- that's in our patch notes, and intended
warm mortar
bruh... why desktop users get no respect ;(.
covert chasm
Its to prevent UX issues with Grip setting off things unintentionally, and to bring all controller schemes into a unified format
warm mortar
generic avatars not working now this???
covert chasm
Menu problem we're aware of and working on right now
Is there a bug with desktop users?
sinful matrix
I am desktop mode the menu is me bugging to hard click on the menu buttons like crazy
versed hound
Did the report get fixed or not...
warm mortar
aight ,good luck
covert chasm
Other than menu, which I just stated we're working on right now ๐
sinful matrix
Also the invites are not showing when you wanna click on it for the information
inner cape
tupper, can I say the line
sinful matrix
Let me test that out
scarlet moss
@sinful matrix Iโve just had same problem
runic willow
Assets/VRCSDK/Dependencies/VRChat/Editor/Components/AutoAddSpatialAudioComponents.cs(9,14): error CS0101: The namespace global::' already contains a definition for AutoAddSpatialAudioComponents'
sinful matrix
Alright i changed my avatar in desktop mode. 5 seconds loading and it was done with a poor avatar.
Normally it did take around 15 a 20 seconds
so tis update is good with the loading avatars improvement
scarlet moss
My avatars sometimes donโt load for me and I have to spam change avatar and now my menu flickers and I canโt click anything
But yes the fast avatar loading is a good change
jovial pulsar
The new avatar loading is โค
slate verge
it is nice
scarlet moss
@warm mortar whatโs not working for you?
sinful matrix
Ow yes indeed. Did you also something else guy's? It seems tha avatar stats have a different list now?
Can you check that guy's for me?
scarlet moss
I canโt look now
elfin forge
vrchat gets an update ui breaks
warm mortar
no, it's fine it's probably internet for me
white storm
vrchat works fine for me
elfin forge
at least avatars load fast
white storm
^
scarlet moss
Iโm in VR so idk if itโs just a VR problem
warm mortar
Yeah, menu is the only problems. and the only thing i wish was fixed is generic avatars being GLOBAL and not local..
it's seriously making me upset since that happened
me as a desktop user,
i' mtalking about my friends see me as a sliding generic avatar in idle animations
๐
idle elm
LOD in The Pug will be wonky/aggressive until I update tonight. I have the update ready, just need to do it once I'm home.
warm mortar
oh shit
stray temple
desert stratus
interesting. may make more trips to the pug if ur update goes well... gl ^ ^
elfin forge
please fix the ui it is bothering the living shit out of me
vestal pier
kind wharf
the latest update has messed up the game again
covert chasm
urban kayak
i cant switch into certain avatars of mine. is it because of performance or is it a error with vrchat again?
desert stratus
@urban kayak are you able to access the avatar menu or is your quick menu flickering?
sinful matrix
Anyone have problems with the full body trackers right now with the Index? Its not getting on from my friend with steamVR
desert stratus
there is currently a bug (fix is ongoing) where the menu is shitting itself
urban kayak
i can acces the avatar menu i can switch to other avatars but not top a certain one of mine
desert stratus
huh. Restart your game and if that doesnt work i guess wait for the patch, might be related
urban kayak
i can select one that is far worse performance wise
ok now i can switch to it
was a temporary bug it seems like
vocal shard
i dunno if thats expected but the /api/1/visits endpoint constantly returns 0 users
hence also the vrcbot doesnt show the amount of online users
i guess that used that endpoint
viral quail
some players are also expierencing issues with being forced crouched in vr
covert chasm
If you can replicate it with steps, please post it on the Feedback boards: https://feedback.vrchat.com
normal snow
for some reason im trying to log into vrchat but it keeps saying incorrect password even though I typed in the correct one
i even tried to change my password and it didnt work
stray temple
Ahhh, canny url got replaced... I see... I just know now.
umbral reef
@normal snow try using the email when logging in
normal snow
yay it works thanks
umbral reef
Np 
vocal shard
also, my vrchat log file is being spammed with 2019.08.22 21:37:36 Log - [NetworkManager] OnPlayerPropertiesUpdate multiple times a second, the log file has grown above 1gb already whereas previously it only consumed a few hundred MBs after a couple hours
idle elm
If you restart your client does it continue?
Does it happen in all worlds or only select worlds?
Does it happen when alone, or only with others?
vocal shard
this happens with others in the world, doesnt matter what world
also in the great pug, it kept spamming my logfile with *** Using existing fallback: '<something here>'
stray temple
My friend told me got same things happening
idle elm
Additionally, all this info being placed in the (canny) "Feedback Boards" is important: https://feedback.vrchat.com/
idle elm
This is likely related to the issue causing menu interaction problems.
stray temple
Ahh, that is good point
vocal shard
@willow heart it takes a really long time for the "Loading..." screen to disappear for me, around half a minute which is unusually long
dusty sparrow
yo is this update the beginning for optimization
stray temple
I assume to be...
desert stratus
the first noticable one that people havent directly complained about, yes
blissful solar
Survivors Log: Day 1 - the menu still doesnโt work, Iโm starting to lose hope. Iโve been here for hours with no escape, food is dwindling, I have been asked to erp so many times Iโm losing my mind, send help. Then only way out is to pull the plug, the menu has failed us all, god have mercy on me... I donโt how much longer I can last... signed VR-Chan
vocal shard
me irl ^
Play more. Nothing specific, you're always gaining trust the more you play, but things like making avatars and worlds can help get you there quicker. There are ones who have gone up to trusted just on playtime alone as well @vocal shard
languid beacon
Wait so quick menu just does not open?
stray temple
Quick Menu is flicking now...
indigo fern
Just a small oversight :kapp
Couldn't possibly have been found by a little testing
sullen escarp
quick menu button clickability seems to be tied to framerate
vocal shard
It wasn't in the open beta, so it's weird where it came from
sullen escarp
similar to clicking people, i can't click anything in the quick menu when i'm at about 20-30 fps
stray temple
Yeah, not in beta, where it come... question
kind wharf
anytime i try use the quick menu it either won't let me access anything or it flickers
desert stratus
#announcements , known issue actively being worked on
kind wharf
sooner it is fixed AGAIN the better
cold talon
bugs actually introduced on purpose by someone in the team?
but that's just a theory, a game development theory!
thanks for watching.
kind wharf
..............
sullen escarp
the avatars actually load faster because people can't switch avatars as fast now
prove me wrong
cold talon
kind wharf
or at all when can't click anything
desert stratus
multiple videos on twitter shhowing 40 player lobbies changing in 5 seconds
sullen escarp
it's the tradeoff
vestal pier
You're wrong because it worked fine on the beta
desert stratus
its kind of glorious
vestal pier
๐
true sky
its good avatars load faster now
rancid vessel
Help.. The quick menu is flickering rapidly.
vestal pier
Look on the brightside
true sky
before it was a pain as some people dont have good internet connection and they only load an avatar i loaded 3 switches ago
desert stratus
we really need a bot for this kind of thing. #announcements , its a known issue being worked on rn
kind wharf
need a repair bot as well as many
true sky
@rancid vessel #announcements
vestal pier
Yes?
true sky
anybody that says what is in announcements will get the fat #announcements
vestal pier
I did not say that.
vestal pier
๐
shy plinth
is it just me or everyone, but i cant use anything in my menu
vestal pier
#announcements @shy plinth
true sky
stray temple
Check announcements first plz
vestal pier
That wasnt impolite
shy plinth
okay thats all i needed to no
true sky
We're aware of issues with the Quick Menu in the latest release. We're working on it actively, and we'll keep you up to date. We plan on releasing a patch as soon as we have it sorted. ~Tupper in #announcements
quotes not working ๐ฆ
there we go
vocal shard
bro the quick menu bug
wind crescent
When the only part of the hand menu that functions as intended 100% of the time is the Mic On/Off button: we have serious issues
vocal shard
i actually want to die
wind crescent
gonna add EARLY ACCESS to the back of my avatar
vestal pier
Thanks for reposting that exact same message ๐
Everyone is aware of the problem, you dont have to look for approval
wind crescent
stark coral
that feeling when you join your friend who you havent seen in a year and instantly crash 
frozen raven
does any one have problem when it comes to log in ?
wind crescent
bad update starfire; gotta wait
vocal shard
Guys the menu isnt working
true sky
stark coral
lmao this servers bot should auto post every 3 mins "look in announcements"
true sky
or everytime someone chats
vocal shard
I know lmao I was just saying it to piss people off ๐
true sky
stark coral
wind crescent
we are aware of the quick menu problem
[voices cutting out at random]
true sky
@vocal shard there are some who dont check #announcements
vocal shard
True
thorny delta
Besides those issues have any others been identified?
inner cape
oi, little helper, I remember you
vocal shard
Its been pretty laggy too tbh
wind crescent
[audio blasting eardrums if master volume is set above 100% at random]
kind wharf
true
true sky
wonder if they fixed a bug where the game would randomly crash when switching worlds
thorny delta
Hm okay. Thanks guys.
neon harbor
is the game acting up or is it just me
true sky
#announcements yup
neon harbor
like im loading it up, but its just stuck on loading screen
wind crescent
only reason I have to turn the master volume above 100% is because voices are too darn quiet
true sky
what is memory leak and how to fix it ๐
wind crescent
that extra 25% is more like a 100% on top
vocal shard
Step 1, delete vrchat.exe
true sky
sleeps
civic wasp
menu is broken fix it
kind wharf
where do i report avatars that are ripped off or stolen?
thorny delta
Also people aren't reading announcements because there wasn't a second ping. Or, rather less people are.
civic wasp
Fix menu! i cant select anything!
thorny delta
@kind wharf There's a report function in game that has "avatar" and "stolen" on it.
vocal shard
_>
civic wasp
covert chasm
@civic wasp #announcements
kind wharf
it has errors when i try
thorny delta
Any possible ETA on the patch? Some friends not in this discord were wondering.
sick garnet
Yea menu broke
true sky
inner cape
@sick garnet #announcements
sick garnet
Ok sorry
true sky
vocal shard
@covert chasm any estimate as to how long this may take
true sky
rigid crescent
There's usually not one, ever
sullen escarp
don't fix the menu, this is actually fun
dusk mesa
menu works for me again 
worthy oracle
rigid crescent
grizzled atlas
noone menus are working
mossy garden
I'm not home I can't check the broken menu I feel like I am missing out. Help.
grizzled atlas
everyone around me is saying the same
nothing int he menu is working is clickeble
vocal shard
Anyone else having menu problems?
grizzled atlas
it worked for a second just now but its freaking out a lot
quiet mica
So like in Unity the only thing the new sdk shows is Utilities it dose not give me settings or anything
so like i cant log in or upload or anything on the newest sdk currently
gloomy sequoia
Cannot even log in., just wondering if anyone is having the issue. Says incorrect no matter if I type it right over and over.
covert chasm
Try using your email address instead of your username
waxen oak
Hello. Im new in vr chat. My name is Luis Alberto
rigid crescent
I wonder what causes the menu thing, just checked and im fine
dawn mortar
hotfix when?
dawn mortar
the in-game menu is completely broken atm
waxen oak
Hello
obtuse swallow
the menu issue is related to how many people are in the world
slate verge
hi luis
waxen oak
Hi
dawn mortar
if you're on your own its fine but the moment you have just 1 other person in the world it breaks
gloomy sequoia
Fixed. Thanks, Tupper.
dawn mortar
i just don't understand how this menu bug got past the testing stage :/
rigid crescent
The first ever unironic "Thanks, Tupper." ๐ ๐ ๐
gloomy sequoia
Nah, what's more frustrating than typing your name and password in ten times and it never works, but you did it right?
glossy wharf
Dude i love the new menu update now i dont even need people to crash me
Actual pog on that one
dawn mortar
that and avatar stats is very laggy to look at
polar rose
i like how chairs are just completely gone from the game too xd
glossy wharf
They arent, they changed the way you trigger them
Thats in the patch notes if youd read em
polar rose
i know, but they're actually gone
like all chairs are just deleted
i can't interact with any chairs
glossy wharf
Idk chairs work fine for me
polar rose
i did. all chairs are actually gone. the blue outline isn't even there either
quiet mica
What do you use to play VRChat @polar rose
and What about you @glossy wharf
polar rose
Rift CV1
mighty niche
soooo im desktop and i cant reach any button on my menu ๐ค
mighty niche
there is nothing bad with the menu i cant press any button
tepid siren
Creeper
mighty niche
awwww man
glossy wharf
@quiet mica Desktop, Rift and Vive.
torn crane
is there some that is haveing problems loging in my friend is i can login fine but he can not
glossy wharf
tell him to login using email address
quiet mica
@torn crane Into game or Unity?
torn crane
game
vocal shard
yeah super frustrating seeing as i made an avatar and wanted to mess around with my friends with it
still going to try
if all else fails ill play some no mans sky tonight and get back to the madness tommorow
fading shale
Hey.
torn crane
@glossy wharf the email worked ty
vale palm
Anyone knows a good way to stick the foam from the oculus rift back to the plastic? @.@ id think hot glue gun but idk
waxen oak
Hello
languid beacon
Challenge: start in vrchome and get to the pug only via walking into portals no opening quick menu
rancid vessel
yay the menu is fixed for me ๐
placid umbra
If you're in VRChat with the menu bug, open a new instance! Let us know if that fixes it.
tawny ore
I shall close my desktop mode right now and let you know
jade ember
new instance, existing instances may have the same issue
tawny ore
Oh I see; this will be really hard to test, then
snow wadi
I love you guys but I must now sleep. See you all tomorrow! โค
tawny ore
Your sleepiness is breathtaking!
idle elm
vocal shard
tubre...
covert chasm
blue................................
queen mango
Aoki..
plucky acorn
vast tulip
Owl.....
desert stratus
blb....
mental cairn
Thanks @covert chasm
daring flower
nvm, it's working now
elfin cloak
alright then
vale palm
will try
tawny ore
vocal shard
Lf friends
dawn fern
"instance" so do you mean join into a public lobby or restart the game?
covert chasm
The community tends to call instances "lobbies" even though that's not really what they are ๐
But yes, you'll need to make a new instance (or lobby)
after a few hours most instances will be rolled over.
light river
a brand new instance is an empty one, unless you bring some friends along
queen mango
Umm.. hold on. That's not meant to be a thing to be celebrated.
Plus, it's pretty off-topic from this channel's rules.
hard patio
queen mango
Yeah, to not mention giving away your involvement.
queen mango
Well, what'cha waitin for? Go meet some peeps in VRChat! 
oak flume
Hello, i'm the only who have problem with vrchat today? My menu seems freeze, i cant click on people or add, my personal home was reset...
rigid crescent
strong jetty
any idea how long it takes for them to reply to a ticket... I have been sittign here for hours waitig and no one seems to know how to fix the problem.... or even acnolages the fact that I am asking about it.
mental cairn
Thanks @covert chasm
vocal shard
Im having an issue signing into vrchat, I reset my password and It still says its incorrect.
@strong jetty A ticket can to up to 2 days, the support team can be very busy at times
strong jetty
no my isue is that the program will not launch on my PC
rigid crescent
type your email in instead of your username
vocal shard
Well its worked thanks! BUT it just crashed after logging in
ok all good
Thanks again@rigid crescent
rigid crescent
๐
slate verge
avatar loading instantly was a mistake, it now loads meme avatars faster and people can spam so much things left and right
indigo fern
Lmao, I mean, about a year ago they used to load at a similar speed
rigid crescent
I wonder why a lot of Japanese model makers make VRC models and don't merge the meshes completely, a lot even suggest adding on things in Unity instead of Blender.
hollow breach
Saw that people were talking about not hearing people when they had their menu opened
just happened to me, do the devs know about this?
slate verge
laziness perhaps
covert chasm
I haven't seen a Feedback report for that yet, and I tried to replicate it earlier but could not.
@hollow breach If you can replicate it, please make a post on http://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports with replication steps and your logs. It'd be useful to also include a video, if you can.
rocky magnet
This rock climbing map is immense
rigid leaf
Hi
lost minnow
I think stuff on Booth is made with the assumption that the buyer doesn't want to edit the models so optimisation through merging goes out the window for them
indigo fern
rigid crescent
Wouldn't it make more sense for it to all be one mesh though if the assumption is they don't want to edit?
indigo fern
Most booth models are in many parts so you can buy "dlc" outfits and there are usually multiple textures for ez color changes tho
torn nebula
@rigid crescent to answer your question, a lot of people are intimidated by blender and/or don't want to deal with learning two tools
rigid crescent
Understandable
torn nebula
And so avatar sellers cater to that crowd by pre-splitting the meshes
subtle trout
I'm not intimidated by Blender, I just hate the interface.
indigo fern
Yea, I remember there also being a pretty popular shader on booth that does color changes slightly better than just changing the diffuse lmao
subtle trout
Unity has better user ability.
torn nebula
Honestly I feel like blender is better for attaching parts but only once you understand the interface
And that's too much of a hurdle for a lot of people
subtle trout
No, it's easy to do in Unity. Much easier than Blender- I know from experience.
torn nebula
I feel like the movement tools are easier to use personally
vast tulip
the interface of blender is amazing, especially 2.8. once you learn it, you can do anything easily and quickly
indigo fern
Of course it's easier, half the time it's just drag and drop onto what you want it parented on
torn nebula
But that's a matter of taste
subtle trout
There are more key commands for Blender than Unity, and with that alone if you dont know them, you are SOL on the interface.
Unity is self explanatory.
indigo fern
2.8 is ๐
subtle trout
Not a matter of taste when comparing.... it comes down to what can and cant be done in a certain amount of time due to efficiency.
indigo fern
There need to be vrc tutorials specifically in 2.8 now since people usually just do exactly as the tutorial says
vast tulip
this is what you do in blender, if you want to do something and dont know how. the first option is to hit space, a search menu pops up and try typing different ways you can think of, of what you want to do. this often works
second, you just google it. you will almost always find someone who has asked the same thing
indigo fern
The thing is, people can't google
They literally ask questions that's the first result a lot of the time
subtle trout
I taught myself how to use the entirety of Unity in a month, including but not limited to bones, shaders, particle systems.... I am still learning just how to make the cube disappear in Blender, and I have been using that program for 7 years.
I didnt use a single google lookup or youtube video to learn unity. All you have to do is click around and READ the labels in the menus.
You dont actually need Blender at all.
I have never used it, and I have 100+ avatar uploads and a public room.
indigo fern
If you ever gotten help from someone, I'm sure they used Google to learn something, that's secondhand Google searching
subtle trout
I'm self sufficient.
quiet mica
you can also go back vers on blender ๐ฟ
tidal aspen
I don't see the point in comparing unity with blener when they're made to do different things
rose timber
Those FBX files in your project have to come from somewhere
indigo fern
unmerged and unatlased ๐ฉ
desert stratus
blender is generally better for editing the model itself directly since thats what its supposef to do anyway
besides, even 2.79 wasn't that bad; if i didnt take breaks on a daily / weekly basis, id say that it wouldve taken a month for me to get to the point that im at now, which is heavily optimizing kitbashes for vrc, just short of learning how to do retopology
i cant imagine doing all of that work in unity alone, especially as soon as you want to change even a single part of an avatar
indigo fern
or swapping outfits and needing to edit the weight paints
get this though, some people actually use pmx editor for kitbashing still
rigid crescent
Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to get something like that from JUST unity. If you're just grabbing shit from websites and recoloring and rescaling it and adding 50 different mesh items on to it sure, but that's not the same level of customization
desert stratus
the only thing i can think of is that one guy who changed the textures on a model so that wat only the necklace would be visible, then attaching it to their own model
that nightmare is the only way i can think of making a kitbash work in unity
tidal aspen
oh god
rigid crescent
LOL
indigo fern
desert stratus
alpha culling ๐ ๐ ๐
rigid crescent
The laziest thing I've done to avoid throwing something through Blender is deleting the texture for buttons
so they're just invisible 99% of the time
desert stratus
laziest thing ive done has always been dynamic bones
reef wyvern
did they update the rift update?
desert stratus
and thats because i usually expect people to have the limiter turned on and i lowkey cant be hard pressed about that issue cuz im gay
i tried once but failed one of these days i need to try again tho
indigo fern
i too am gay
desert stratus
cuz my initial solution was just to add simple weight, then i learned that i really didnt know how to weight paint
cuz i still cant stand the idea of my friendo walking around with like 150 of em...shudder
indigo fern
man, you really gotta appreciate the people who weight paint well
desert stratus
then again new perf blocking system mesns that people shouldnt be plagued by my one lazy cancer tax
ikr shit is delicate af
indigo fern
like, yuumi is a madlad, the newer bases for his models are like a strange splice of atleast 3 different models, plus he has to change the weights for the outfits to fit that base
not a fan of his clothing choices tho lmao
rigid crescent
I like Yuumi's, I see them a lot but I'm not tired of seeing them because he's constantly releasing newer stuff
and most are still pretty well optimized, I haven't really checked in a while though
desert stratus
i do barely enough to get by and then forget certain things like the ends between socks/shoes and turtle necks
but it usually dosnt matter too hard
yuumi's avatars are cool
i have like one favorite from that world cuz of a friendo a long time ago who used it
indigo fern
is it the one with the sword? that ones like a fan favorite or something
desert stratus
no its "vrchat-chan" or whatever
tda-miko with a unity hat
the one thay looks like thee meme default avatar
rigid crescent
my favorite is the samurai one with the ponytail and irezumi tattoo
indigo fern
the fan favorite 
rigid crescent
the new black haired girl in the cat keyhole is cute too
desert stratus
man i gotta make a miko kitbash
rigid crescent
at least I think it's new, I havent seen it until a week or two ago
desert stratus
i havent had a loli avatar in a while
indigo fern
all desktoppers should use that bdsm one with the arms tied behind
i mean, they dont have arms anyway
desert stratus
god i miss this ancient miko edit that had a childish gambino meme stuffed into it
indigo fern
honestly, there need to be more miko creators
ah, more non korean miko creators, you know, so they wont be omega unlit
desert stratus
i will forever be 100% antivax for lit shading
i dont know why i cant stand unlit avatars. i get that its a style choice and tends to work out easily with toon models and what not, but it really kind of takes them out of the scene and world imo
i need to write a short guide on getting started with making your shaders look like not shit so people do the same
indigo fern
yea, like any dark-chill world which is most of the game now, they stick out and nearly will blind you
desert stratus
people with no shadows :<
indigo fern
oh my god, and dont even mention the worlds with bloom, they literally glow
desert stratus
oof yeah
rigid crescent
I like this other one for desktop users, its some egyptian girl https://puu.sh/E8ruD/9ea2a548d0.png
indigo fern
oh, thats nice
desert stratus
thats fuckin next level
protip for anyone reading rn: you dont shade with grayscale / blacks, you shade with colors. most shaders nowadays let you change the ramp. (an image that determines how that particular material is shaded, something that unlit avatars tend to lack) default ramps usually jump straight to black, instead replace that black with a color that most closely matches the color of the material
itll look softer and a lot more natural. you get bonus points if you lower the value and saturation of the ramp color
rose timber
I'm with you on lit shaders. People are paying 800+ USD for a GPU with raytracing in hardware for gosh-sakes!
desert stratus
spend $800 on rtx gpu for vrchat
indigo fern
lmao
desert stratus
uploads avatar with flat lit toon
idle elm
Unlit sins.
desert stratus
help me. oh my god.
worn wing
I was just about to go through and un-baked-in-AO the nanachi textures for I can use a lit shader... Texture divided by TextureAO but for 33 images zzz
vocal shard
hi
desert stratus
do it, itll be worth. then you can flex on everyone for having pretty shading
indigo fern
there is something that i hate equally, anime models that use fur shader on their tails and ears
the contrast is pretty jarring for me
desert stratus
"bbbut the colors dont look right" make em look right
yeah its hard to deal with dense noise like that and making it look good
indigo fern
like here we'll have an anime grill, usually with tattoos and a catepillar wiggling out of her butt
rose timber
I've found that flat-lit-toon hides egregious modeling sins.
desert stratus
thats what its usually used for
onlly time i ever used it was for a quest avatar, first time modeling so
indigo fern
cant have shading issues if you have no shading
desert stratus
back on noise, ive spent a long time tweaking the stars in my hair so they dont look grainy and weird from a distance and overall
i hope i got it right, seems like it since people compliment me on it here and there
theyre all like "omg solur ur hair is pretty and sparkly and snowy" and i have to silently go theyre stars :< "yes thank u ^ ^"
vocal shard
um I have a question ,,,
desert stratus
mhm?
vocal shard
do you know anyone that can help upload mmd models to vr Ive been following these tutorials but its super confusing and I never understand it and its just confusing :/ and im not sure were to ask
desert stratus
im like about to pass out and i cant think of anyone who can hlep rn so no :< sor
vocal shard
its fine ty
desert stratus
any way a bit back on modeling, my biggest gripes is with how tacky everything seems to be until someone cracks something just right, and then that formula is repeated over and over till it becomes stale
desert stratus
a lot of public avatars go through a shitload of r&d where someone finds an eboy or egirl that really catches on but nobody is for sure why, and now everyone does it
indigo fern
im not a fan of the tattoo emissions, just gotta let that be known
desert stratus
i know, im not either :p
paper cloak
I was in the void club last night and literally every single dude was using the same retextured wolfboi
it really is getting stupid
indigo fern
i long for the days of the shitty "fullbody shimakazes" with spaghetti hair, at least that gave me a laugh
desert stratus
on the other hand, im personally greatful, amazed, and just kind of happy that this game exists and has the creative freedom to give rando peeps a chance to express themselves in a pretty cool fucking way
indigo fern
cloth hair only a real comedian couldve thought of that
desert stratus
on the other hand....this game feels like a gachaverse studio sometimes >~>`
i have the ultimate special snowflake avatar tho so i shouldnt be talking ^ ^`
indigo fern
lmao, dont you actually have snowflakes on you?
desert stratus
they're starss :<<
indigo fern
if you say so
desert stratus
tbh i may either remove them or rework them at some point with all of the people who are like "uwu snowflakes?"
compact river
So much red
indigo fern
aw, thats cute, nice performance
desert stratus
cuz i wanna keep the band of them that makes them form a galaxy, but that also means a high res texture...
compact river
I seen a 700k poly wolf boi last night
desert stratus
the nightmare
indigo fern
ah, i know might know the cause of that
rocky magnet
wait,late but. 800 bucks JUST for this game???
slate verge
@desert stratus wish i can make pretty avatars as those
desert stratus
also thx lol, im a filthy liar cuz the avatar has 21 dyn bones so its medium
no, game is free
indigo fern
a lot of wolf bois use that one rolex thats half a million polys
desert stratus
youll get there one dy uwu
and you can get game on desktop
pople just end up spending a lot of moey the moree they get into it cuz vr lol
indigo fern
i mean, people with fullbody put a lot just into their vr gear
compact river
I spent like 1600 usd on vr stuff so far
desert stratus
depends. most headsets are 300-500 usd, you only go over that if ur pc is bad or if u want more
rocky magnet
I just finished the rock climbing giant boulder map!
compact river
And b4 bot
desert stratus
avg vr setup + good pc to run it is like 1.2-1.5k usd, if you wanted to go top-of-the-line+ full body, you're looking at 2.5k usd
secone one including pc to run index
compact river
Im 2.1k in pc 1.6k vr
indigo fern
wow, flex
meager solstice
1.6 in vr? how
compact river
Upgrading is prob far off for a bit tbh
meager solstice
unless u bought the vive pro
compact river
Starter headset full index set and full body
meager solstice
1300$
indigo fern
it could be more if you bought the pimax
compact river
I dont only have one headset as index was not my first
indigo fern
does the index have have a planned smell module tho? i dont think so
willow glade
is anyone else having a timing out issue constantly with the new update?
desert stratus
oh gosh i had a massively cursed convo in vr regarding the fucking feel real smell attachment earlier
indigo fern
lmao
desert stratus
somethinginvolving putting certain hazardous biofluids into the capsules
indigo fern
sniff feet of course
compact river
Imagine all the 13 year olds using avatars that smell like shit
indigo fern
WAIT WOT
desert stratus
shh ๐ ๐ ๐
indigo fern
๐ ๐
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compact river
Delux smell edition
indigo fern
enhanced smell range dlc, i could smell you a mile away
desert stratus
hey guys, tupper here. Im proud to announce that on the roadmap we are finally able to make room for adding feelrealVR support. now you can smell the smelly nerd / ethot sweat while you cuddle your friends
compact river
desert stratus
remember kids, today the devs are focued on the three S's
stability, security, and smell
desert stratus
imagine a dark future where smellcards were invented and people could just script up what they wanted people to smell
game objects with scent plugins attached
indigo fern
imagine going into a restaurant world where you could smell the food in the kitchen
worn wing
Huh are we in a mcdonalds kitchen or has longshot been dancing again
indigo fern
or a grandmas cookies type world
desert stratus
id just make everything smell like play doh and dried puzzle mat
indigo fern
desert stratus
gamer smell
indigo fern
just make the bathroom smell like popcorn, that'll throw people off
desert stratus
glorious
compact river
i regret clicking public lobby
indigo fern
I regret clicking this server
light saddle
I regret not owning Doc Me
obsidian pagoda
vrc sdk out here corrupting unity projects
hot sentinel
Uhm VRchat is completely broken for me
I just did the updates and it's totally pooched
slate plinth
it be like that sometimes
hot sentinel
My menu won't load on my left hand
slate plinth
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still lark
@hot sentinel Is this in a old instance?
hot sentinel
I uninstalled and reinstalled and nothing so I can't change avatars or leave the tutorial world I can't even walk
I use a quest
My bf said this update allows you to change avatars faster try it so I did and then I went to open my menu to change back and the top frame of my menu loaded but there was little star flickers so he said restart your headset so I did and same thing so I uninstalled and reinstalled and logged in and I'm stuck in the tutorial world, my menu won't open -at all- and I can't walk
vocal shard
Hi
slate verge
hello kuromi
vast notch
would anyone happen to have the wooper avatar that throws up water?
worn wing
I think somebody actually threw up just from hearing like three of those things taking turns vwargguiebuwifb'ing
idle elm
LODs in The Pug should be fixed up and working much better now!
Definitely better than they did last patch. The LOD fix is awesome.
slate verge
@idle elm thanks owlboy you deserve a medal ๐
love it when i made a public world and stays there for a certain hour and the author shows up
happens twice now in two different worlds
vast notch
@lone pebble people still have it i wanted to see if i could copy it
i had it and forgot to save it
worn wing
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#f=90,91&sort=price&page=1
Heres a search with the latest cpus filtered
silk shadow
i have but i want to to be the best for vrchat
i was looking at a i5-9600Kf
with a rtx 2060
rn i have a i5-3470 + a 1050ti
jovial pulsar
There seems to be another menu issue in this latest build
Right now I can't click anything on the menu at all
vocal shard
Can anyone add me for help with an avatar upload
amber delta
Are any of you guys able to get the newest VRChat update on steam? For some reason VRChat won't update to the build 842
lone pebble
@vast notch oh lol
frozen prawn
worthy dust
Ahhhhhh
tawny ore
true sky
i noticed attaching a blueprint id wont update the world stats, but will when i detach
nocturne valve
What CPU do you guys think I better get as an upgrade for VR? Right now I have a Rift S running off of a PC with i5 4570, GTX 1060 6GB and 8 gigs of RAM. I've been considering i5 9600K and Ryzen 3600X
true sky
graphics card with at least 8GB VRAM or better and at least 16GB DDR4 RAM or more should also help you
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nocturne valve
This CPU is weak tho
true sky
yeah, i would upgrade the CPU
nocturne valve
I play CPU-intensive games
tawny ore
You swapping CPU on its own? because you're then limited only by the socket
nocturne valve
No, I'm obviously gonna get new RAM and mobo
true sky
vrchat is cpu, gpu, and ram intensive
tawny ore
Alright.
Ryzen 3600x
x470/x570 motherboard
Keep your GPU for now
snow wadi
Let him sort out the upgrades gradually, he might have a fixed budget.
true sky
but dont get it from ebay unless you are prepared to get scammed possibly
tawny ore
Because Ryzen is futureproofed somewhat
tawny ore
With a new generation of consoles coming out; they will be far more multicore threaded than the current slew of games (same jump happened moving from ps3/xbox 360 onto ps4/xbo).
Thusly - if you get a ryzen with a moderately high amount of threads you're using a socket that supports up to a 16core CPU which you can exchange when time requires you to do so.
nocturne valve
Fair
snow wadi
I just paid attention to his name xD
tawny ore
It's brilliant
nocturne valve
Will there be a big difference between 3600X and 3700X?
tawny ore
None at all; ignore the 3700x
tawny ore
np
grave totem
Anyone know if The meny bug got fixed? Or is it still bugged?
grave totem
Okai
ivory axle
does anyone have any recommendations for tripod mounts for the htc vive lighthouses, i'd like the base of it to be quite small too if possible
ivory axle
i cant damage the walls, thats why i want tripods
tawny ore
Tape doesn't damage the walls afaik ๐
Hmm... then in that case.... google is probably best.
ivory axle
k
odd bay
NO
rough pulsar
Tape is bad for lighthouse mounting since they gently vibrate due to the motors and will steadily come loose.
livid delta
I've mounted mine with double sided tape and they hold really well
rough pulsar
@ivory axle If there's a photography shop nearby check them out, light stands used during photoshoots are ideal for lighthouses.
ivory axle
@rough pulsar thank you ill keep an eye out, if i cant find a shop ill just look into amazon
tawny ore
Sorry I let you down bentspoon :<
ivory axle
ngl i wouldnt try the tape anyway because tape would unstick at some point, also tripods are more flexible so ye its fine
livid delta
My tape is meant for portraits and they can hold up to 8kg or something like that
rough pulsar
Ehh, it's best not to risk it, but lighthouses are designed to survive a 2 meter drop onto a hard surface while running.
sour spear
@livid delta tape I wouldnโt recommend ever. But if you are using something like command strips, then itโs most likely fine. Iโd probably add a tack on there for good measure
heavy dawn
Speaking of tape. It seems the Vive was only constructed such that the part that goes on your face is held on by a loop of plastic on the right hand side.
That loop broke apparently, and it had been sliding out more and more.
The other day it just fell out and the screen was dangling from my face. Why would they only attach it on one side? It doesn't appear removable.
I ended up sticking 2-sided tape on the plastic and re-inserting it back into the HMD part.
I bought it in December so I doubt there's any warranty. ๐คท
It's probably even more solid than its ever been really.
uncut trail
Anyone knows secrets to old hub (with 2017 names on the list) ?
raw mason
Just get yourself the Deluxe Audio Strap, @heavy dawn. It's much better than the default strap.
covert blade
Hmm ya know, it's interesting to see the performance system now disabling certain parts of the avatar instead of replacing the entire thing. I recall having been in a discussion about it where people were like against it or something, or maybe I misremember it
vestal pier
People are against vrchat giving you options to disable anything
slim temple
@vestal pier I've never understood that. It's silly since vrchat can be either a mobile level system requirements game to a AAA gaming rig system requirements game based on user content
covert blade
Huh. Yeah but I'd say that having the performance system disable lights, dynamic bones, cloth physics ect instead of hiding your whole avatar is a lot better than always having your whole avatar hidden because of a single light that you cannot remove yourself
slim temple
I get that some people may not want to be seen as a grey robot, but maybe they need to re-evaluate their avatars. There's absolutely no reason you can't make it efficient.
"because of a single light that you cannot remove yourself" hunh?
covert blade
Like I have one avatar fav'd that has that issue. All green except for the light. Now the system will just disable the light and I dont have to worry about not being shown
I didn't make the avatar
slim temple
oh, you mean public avatars, yeah, that's great!
covert blade
Yeah
Otherwise I would've just removed the light myself but since I don't create my own avatars, I have to deal with what I can get and a lot of avatars seem fine for the most part except for either material slots (which I then won't use) or dynamic bones which might get a tad bit too much
That also means that me setting the performance setting to something like "medium" doesn't instantly hide 95% of all avatars present on the server
It's exactly what I wanted
slim temple
it's a great feature! Single material colored avatars ain't so bad either if it's the only thing blocked. My frames were way up last night. It was very noticeable.
I've got a monster rig, too, but vrchat is one of those things that nobody can predict or build around, it's just the underlying framework and vr
covert blade
Polygons, Meshes, Materials and Bones are the only things that can get your avatar perf. blocked
*Skinned Meshes included
Got a GTX 1080 but somehow, I feel like that just the amount of players present + the world itself eat away more frames than the avatars
mental cairn
@covert chasm which dev can i dm bout a issue that need to be fix
meager solstice
u shouldnt @ any team member
desert stratus
opinion: there needs to be a bit more restrictions on who can upload public avatars
meager solstice
what would they be judged off of? @desert stratus
desert stratus
i dont know >~< but i really feel like there should be at least something
not right now ofc, but it's kinda bad when most public avatars have that glorious 
tacked onto them
meager solstice
but there arent avatar restrictions
covert blade
Then just change your preferred performance setting so they don't affect you negatively
desert stratus
that's not really the point, i already use the avatar perf blocking system anyway
bluhh i dont have more time to talk about this for a while hold on
meager solstice
only problem with ur idea is people feel limited by some changes that have been made in the past, doing ur idea would only limit them harder in their opinion
olive hemlock
is it normal having motion sickness in vrchat and pavlov but not in beat saber?
meager solstice
yes
olive hemlock
i started playing in vr since yesterday ^^"
covert blade
You don't walk in Beat Saber