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#vrchat-general-2
gritty needle
tawny ore
Inb4 we get an update in 2 weeks and its perfect and we all collectively faint in amazement
tawny ore
Carmack may not need two weeks; no... but for VRCteam to test and qualify the deployment to multiple systems - a different story
You know, with the varying game-version instances... I do wonder if there's some people out there with un-updated versions of VRC sitting in Room of rain going "I wonder where everybody went"
languid beacon
Typical Carmack morning tweet: “I wonder what would happen if we applied X methodology to unrelated Y process?”
Typical Carmack evening tweet: “I went and did it and it performs better than anything ever made.”
tawny ore
That's a nominal Carmack post right there
languid beacon
If you stay in those empty old version instances too long you will be eaten by langoliers.
It’s what happens while the game updates while you snoozing in one of those sleep worlds
tawny ore
What's a langolier
languid beacon
Steven king reference. Monsters that eats the past you leave behind
vocal shard
It had a top notch movie adaptation too. XD
languid beacon
His version of the past is just the world with all people and animals gone.
Since they moved on with the present
Reminds me of vrc updates
worthy oracle
tawny ore
ye
stoic iron
tawny ore
#development-advanced sorr... english bad..
Although I can speak perfect SDK language. So I reckon you better off switchin over to that channel and asking there.
muted maple
What is dis XD same to the SDK
^ was because i had % in the password
Change your password so it doesn't contain % @clear merlin
covert blade
Why would it even be like that? Like, not being able to use special characters
That's what makes password secure
tawny ore
Hol' up a minute... does that mean japanese people have the safest passwords?
analog peak
Hello! I was wondering is anyone has the same issue?? My PC has been crashing recently and it only happens in VRChat, right after the update.
tawny ore
I reckon what's happened here is that I don't know what's happened here at all. Sorry.
ruby needle
VRChat it self shouldnt make your PC crash. If it does there either is a driver or hardware fault.
Tried running a hardware check unitily ?
I'd start with memtest
tawny ore
Also if you run an nvidia card; mine was misbehaving for a bit (nvidia experience would not launch and even the installer was throwing hissy fits)... so make sure you manually update that too (even if you have to use a clean install)
analog peak
I'm not a tech sawwy so I'm a bit confused what should I do..
tawny ore
Re-trace your steps, make sure that you absolutely, definitely did not install anything prior or shortly after vrc update
analog peak
I don't think so, I only bought Beat Saber yesterday
How do I do the hardware check?
tawny ore
analog peak
yeah, even my friend couldn'rt see some people & had trouble with the maps too
sometimes i was terrily losing tracking even my vision was spinning few times
i dont think its my pc, my dad checked it
and i checked it too as much as i could (im terribly sorry for the mass messaging, im using vr)
languid beacon
You don’t need to be Japanese to have passwords that use Japanese letters. You can use emoji in your passwords too
lime tiger
Does someone know if it is me or maybe the game that it won't show me a single instance? like 4 real i tryed so many worlds but it won't show me an instance which is a bit annoying tbh.
languid beacon
I’m not sure what you mean by show you a single instance
lime tiger
When u want to join a world in VRC you see "Instances" like "The Pug #31124 12/24"
And my problem for weeks now is that i can't see any so basically i can't play the game cuz even if it says in he menu "The Pug" - 317Players it won't show me a single instance with people that i could join
ruby needle
Can you please stop spamming just cus no one answeres in the next 10 seconds?
lime tiger
^
ruby needle
and if no one wants to answere then thats their right.
little merlin
hollow breach
Sup kid
tacit plank
Loading screen
Caught IndexOutOfRangeException in UpdateDelegator Job: Array index is out of range.
sonic verge
is it just me or after the updates recently, audiobreaks are a bit more frequent
near ether
Anyone else getting disconnected all the time?
Yeah.. I think theres issues again
other EU friends aare being affected too but not as badly as me rn
5th disconnect in 20m
near ether
ping skyrockets at random intervals from the normal 150 to 250+
okay, others are disconnecting too now
sonic verge
disconnects happen on asia a couple days ago, i guess its eu turn
outer fox
oh wait a second
frozen prawn
Hello
outer fox
are the servers messing up for you guys too?
Is canada not the only ones having vrchat be unplayable?
light wedge
hi can't get in vr chat are server down
frozen prawn
@trail basin cute pic
desert stratus
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6777 users in VRChat currently
desert stratus
@light wedge servers are not down, it's your internet
or whatever issue you are having
what happens when you try to open up vrchat and / or go into a world?
light wedge
all work
ivory axle
someone explain why i keep getting kicked out of public worlds and its saying "timed out" "lost connection" its done it for the past god damn 6 hours and i've restarted steamvr and vrchat so many times
vrchat team up your damn game
ruby needle
timing out / having connection issues is very rarely a issue directly caused by the team, rather something on the route to you or in the datacenter
At least at random times. (Without any maintenance happening)
ivory axle
it has been constant, at most 30 minute in between each one
my internet is completely fine
but for some reason my ping is through the roof when it never is
vestal sleet
VRChat data center is a weird ones
I have like 100 down internet yet it take me a while to load a wide
acoustic glacier
It has happened to me a few times this week, but not as much as you did
ivory axle
its honestly frustrating me
acoustic glacier
What country are you in then?
ivory axle
UK
acoustic glacier
Ah, I am in the UK too
ivory axle
ive restarted vrchat so many times
ruby needle
that doesnt help with network related issues.
ivory axle
what does then
ruby needle
if its issues in your network, restarting the router maybe
acoustic glacier
Hopefully a vrchat European server is made soon
ruby needle
if you're on wifi... change that
ruby needle
if it's outside your home network, then you can't help it
acoustic glacier
no?
ivory axle
no?
acoustic glacier
Everything from vrchat is centered around america#
ruby needle
decentralised servers wont really work well imo.
Usually you'd have switchabale regions in games that do that.
acoustic glacier
Yep
ruby needle
But if you'd do that here, it would literally divide communites.
ivory axle
ive been patient with it until now
i thought it was just worlds clogging up
but any world i joined crashed me
acoustic glacier
Even the box?
ivory axle
i didnt try that
acoustic glacier
The box has nothing in it
ivory axle
i went to the home, room of the rain, the pug, never have i ever
yes, and i still crashed
acoustic glacier
I am guessing its not a hardware issue
ivory axle
no ive never had this problem
faint skiff
AFAIK all assets (worlds, avatars, etc) are downloaded from geographic CDNs. It's only basics like logins and menus that are centralised.
acoustic glacier
It has to be software
ivory axle
steamvr is okay
desert stratus
use in-game camera
ivory axle
access it on menu ^
desert stratus
or steamvr screenshot shudder
which is i think left menu button + trigger, but steamvr screenshot is for infidels
just use the in-game camera
a hell of a lot more flexable
ivory axle
you dont need them
rigid crescent
just so you know the box having "nothing in it" doesn't make it an optimized map
A map with a million things in it can be just as optimized if done right, for the most part
opaque hawk
If you need a good example look at some quest maps
glass sable
grim condor
hey
pliant flame
John Carmack offering help to VRChat? That’s a big yay if they accept it
vocal shard
yeah hopefully
pliant flame
The legend himself
rustic gust
Is it weird that I would feel bad if I muted a kid who is new to Vrchat?
languid beacon
Nah that’s basic empathy. But if you don’t want to hear it you don’t have to
tawny ore
I mute all kids on VRC... most of the time I block them because there's absolutely zero chance I'll have a positive interaction with them
still lark
That's a bit harsh!
tawny ore
It is not
because I will not make noise for them (as we cannot hear each other) and vice versa
So we can individually hear those we want to hear
acoustic glacier
What channel should I use to post pictures of my custom avatar (just to show off what I'm doing)
tranquil fable
@tawny ore I feel bad for you because of that you would think that a majority of people would agree with you but that is not the case you may also anger people (including myself because I am a child with surprisingly good grammar) so I would recommend you keep that to yourself. (I only mentioned one person but I'm not aiming at one person) Also, how would you not have a positive interaction with children?
tawny ore
I have nothing that I can relate with; with them. I am 27 with life experience and very different early years experience from theirs. The conversation would not last. On top of that I guess I'm just very opinionated by dismissing children who play VRC (I hope you're above 13).
tranquil fable
I understand that.
tawny ore
I mean, look at your name for starters
Does that inspire confidence?
Thanks ghosto, love you too.
tranquil fable
Well nobody should jump to conclusions should they?
tawny ore
First impressions account for a lot of what follows.
tranquil fable
Yes I understand that.
inner cape
say no homo right now
wise perch
inner cape
what
tawny ore
[No-] I love you dearly [-homo]
inner cape
🤢
tawny ore
😄
inner cape
☣ [redacted for toxicity] ☣
tawny ore
its better than being hit close to pelvis
flat narwhal
ngl it is harsh to just block someone cause theyre young
i agree alot of young kids on vrchat are annoying but there are some who are pretty chill
i only block those who really annoy me
inner cape
lets just put it this way
flat narwhal
one guy, sounded about my age(24) kept shouting the n word and it was really hard to hear the person i was actually talking to
so i blocked him
idle elm
Good job, those sorts of people should be blocked and/or muted
inner cape
he(fuzzout) blocks loud and obnoxious people, it just so happens majority of them appear to be of young age
flat narwhal
honestly i think i just muted him but its essentially the same.
im an edgy guy but edge for the sake of edge is annoying
opaque hawk
People who join the game just to spurt racial slurs should be blocked
Like a pizza cutter, all edge and no point
flat narwhal
i agree. makes it hard to appreciate the people im actually talking to
tawny ore
I block: Large avatars, noisy young kids, generally rude people, REEEEEE and there's one more I'm forgetting.
flat narwhal
i loooove large avatars
tawny ore
Yep, straight up
flat narwhal
i have an EVA thats taller than the silent beach skybox
well not taller but as tall
cause its great
tawny ore
Because they increase my blood pressure; and my preference is lower blood pressure
tawny ore
Not at all, I reckon I'm fairly relaxed XD
ruby burrow
I mean technically, if he blocks quick and casually, it means that he doesn't find it a big deal, rather than the other way around.
tawny ore
Yeah instead of shouting up the room and yelling at people, I just make myself disappear from their perspective and vice versa... letting both of us go about our day
flat narwhal
you block large avatars and young kids for no reason though. just cause they dont notice doesnt mean its not a dick thing to do
tawny ore
It isn't a dick thing at all; - who was hurt in this scenario?
I would never talk to them, they would never talk to me
flat narwhal
its the principle of the matter
plush cove
we need a furret avatar
tawny ore
I'm tailoring my VRC experience to my preference; I apologize if you see this as a crime
ruby burrow
I'm generally plenty lenient on blocking myself, but if someones got nothing of value to bring to an instance, then sometimes there's no harm in simply removing the nuisance.
tawny ore
Not at all
flat narwhal
i really only block people who are actively impeding my conversations
inner cape
this is proving my point from yesterday
negative but reasonable opinions trigger snowflakes 🤡
tawny ore
Offensive would be to approach them and telling them that they are wrong
plush cove
oh when will vr cat get out of early access?
flat narwhal
never
inner cape
no one knows
tawny ore
VR cat? I want one
inner cape
not any time soon for sure tho
tawny ore
Going to go on oculus forum and request a cat for oculus home
flat narwhal
itll get out of EA when they optimize the game
inner cape
you asked the same question yesterday, nothing changed
flat narwhal
mirrors are killer
tawny ore
Mirrors are also 50% of the reason for VRCs survival xD
flat narwhal
true but they need fixing
tawny ore
They now have low and high modes if they kill your PC
Or you could just upgrade and not have that issue
flat narwhal
ye but id like to be able to see myself in the mirror. and the game runs decently on my setup. i may need a new graphics card cause mines 3 years old
languid beacon
I block nsfw avatars, that’s about it. I never block people based on their audio. That’ll just be a mute.
tawny ore
Corn syrup?
languid beacon
Snow crash?
flat narwhal
i saw one that was an anime waifu with a gift box on her crotch area and she opens the box and theres a dick in there
it was great
flat narwhal
then you got the giant waifus you can actually ride
those are fun
i can live out my giantess fantasies
dude in vr its the best
its like shes actually holding you
tawny ore
Some of them are terrible at holding and if you put VR on while they rock you about on the seat; you're in motion sickness city
flat narwhal
only time ive ever gotten a bit nauseous in vr is when i was in the jetpack world
languid beacon
Stations need some work so our avatars don’t fold up when turned sideways
flat narwhal
ive also gotten a tiny headache from Compound, mostly due to the pixel aesthetic and vr being weird together
but yeah jetpack world in vrchat is nausea inducing, but aside from that ive never had motion sickness from vr
jetpacks are just really fast and spin you around alot
did you try the jumpscare maze
i had the volume on mute cause im weak and me and some others had a guy lead us through it
whats wdsk horror experience
cloud crater
hi
past cosmos
hello weirdos
ruby burrow
I've more or less always been fine for motion sickness in VR. There was maybe the first week where I felt a bit, but not enough to stop me playing.
And I began with high motion games from the start.
flat narwhal
you're gonna have a bad time
tawny ore
Squishy my first was elite dangerous - barrell roll test... I survived.
Hardest oddly enough was locomotion when moving towards walls... that really set me off
flat narwhal
i want a jumpscare maze where the last jumpscare is sans and it plays earrape megalovania
tawny ore
Ghosto is on his toxic point today
ruby burrow
You have a cockpit around you to ground you in Elite Dangerous though. You should try Sairento with the backflip locomotion option enabled. : P
cloud crater
😋
tawny ore
Although getting out of a corvette is hard. Need to cover some distance
ruby burrow
Oh ok. That sounds a bit different then.
cloud crater
tawny ore
Another one for motion sickness triggers is bumps in the walkable paths... if you suddenly go up a bump or drop down it can set it off
inner cape
your senses are weak 🗿
tawny ore
Not anymore XD I'm locomoting with smooth turning now
pliant flame
Now go ride all the amusement park rides
tawny ore
Not into that at all XD
ruby burrow
The worst I had was probably playing Spell Fighter during my first or second day in VR. Nothing special about it, just slide motion, but the game forces you to strafe and backpedal in circles constantly to kite enemies, which was a bit much on that particular day I guess.
Did a few hours and then took a break to let the headache go.
analog verge
Hi, I'm new to VR Chat, is there anyone who knows any sites where I can get some free avatar models?
flat narwhal
i got kicked lmao
hollow breach
watch ur language @fluid bloom
flat narwhal
yeah a mod kicked me
hollow breach
cause
flat narwhal
i thought it was funny
covert blade
@analog verge MMD has models you can use
warped bridge
why when i go into a nother wourld its suck at 100%?
i did that
its still stuck xd
i did
what cache thingy?
it say i need to upgrage my grafic driver but my computers over 5 years old
yea
hold on
ruby needle
if you are still on a 5 years old driver then it's more then time to update it 
warped bridge
i updated m,y computer last night
flat narwhal
then download them. i had issues with some avatars not loading, and the message did pop up. i installed new drivers and it worked fine
updating your OS doesnt update your drivers
warped bridge
-w-
ruby needle
@flat narwhal optional updates can, but as that isnt standart i doubt they use it.
flat narwhal
that part i did not know
though i should cause i remember checking my drivers and they were apparently updated, but they werent so i had to use the AMD program to do it properly
now alls good and i can see big tiddy avatars like god intended
i see you are also a man of culture
subtle cosmos
Kon'nichiwa
analog verge
wassup
slim temple
phew
wise fog
Does anyone know how to create say a vehicle that walks
I'm trying to figure it out for one of the worlds we
ar working on and I could use some help
sharp lotus
mhm
languid beacon
Anyone notice the view in mirrors is shakey as of last few updates? As if the mirror world is vibrating a little
All mirrors not world specific
rough pulsar
@languid beacon Can't say I have, but I'd try grabbing some friends and doing a little testing, and grab recordings if you can.
languid beacon
Happens more exaggerated the closer you get to the mirror.
Try being very close and translating up and down is most notable
ruby needle
let's keep this channel VRChat related, please 
fluid bloom
...?
rigid crescent
how edgy of you
vestal pier
I think it is infact you who is the crappy people 🙂
hallow trout
anyone else getting the issue of when ever they open the menu they instantly get booted back to their home world, even if they are already in their home world
slim temple
did anyone else see this update from Valve today?
SteamVR Input:
Added setting in binding configs called “Return bindings with X hand” that cause the gamepad or treadmill bindings to also apply to left/right hand devices when a SteamVR Input application restricts its action results by device.
For legacy input applications, when the trigger is clicked the trigger value will not be set to 1.0 if the click action is already coming from the trigger. This fixes a bug with Oculus Touch controllers in games like VRChat, where the grip trigger value would jump from partially pulled to fully pulled. For legacy bindings that put a trigger click action on another button, the existing behavior remains and the axis value will be set to 1.0.
serene relic
slim temple
I wonder if this would help climbing requiring a grip pull.
faint skiff
@idle elm Table closest to mirror has offset collider mesh blocking movement past on the booth side
idle elm
Thanks! Should be fixed tonight!
faint skiff
I tried to tell you in game when i found you by accident but i guss you wrer afk
sorry fotr steamvr keyboard too, its not great
idle elm
No worries, I've been in and out or VR working on things, thanks for the heads up again 👍
crisp nexus
i will oof so hard i will die
empty wharf
crisp nexus
.
vocal shard
bad gateway for vrcsdk i guess?
cant log in at all
Ngl.. I block kids with garbage microphones..
Gotta protect my ears
ancient kindle
verbal blade
I just realized how bad I am at interaction in a social place
perhaps it was a bad idea to play VR chat
neon flume
Playing VRChat could help make that easier 😄
verbal blade
the problem is it's hard there too ;-;
warped dew
They updated the unity version?!
God I don't even know how I can update to that version
Can someone link me to a guide or something that tells me how?
warped dew
nvm found out
kinda feel they updated it out of nowhere
The first time it was like a big deal
frozen prawn
neon flume
Security issues were discovered in the old version of unity that we were using. Unity released a mitigation tool but the best way to resolve that long term was to update unity.
https://medium.com/@vrchat/attention-vrchat-creators-unity-editor-vulnerability-and-mitigation-7411b15e4cfe
Oh and the update to unity is what fixed switching mics in game too
copper socket
o boy
snow wadi
Oh nvm o.o
acoustic ore
Hai
inner cape
@cyan breach ?
cyan breach
: )
fierce mesa
night
mossy coral
poop
teal cape
...
mossy coral
poop
wise perch
could we not?
also, mornin, Fuzz. passes the aspirin
tawny ore
I managed to lift the tiredness by making a coffee so strong, it climbed itself back into the cup after I tried pouring it out...
I shall name it - calamity java
Dem-1 what time is it for you currently? @wise perch
gloomy remnant
ddos happening?
mighty lily
Idk but its weird
still lark
Interesting that you guys took so long to say something. :P
vernal forge
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 4776 users in VRChat currently
gloomy remnant
yeah same
mighty lily
You can reconnect
tawny ore
Ah good to know :3 Thanks!
wise perch
^~^
near ether
Having the same disconnects as most of yesterday with others disconnecting too
tawny ore
I've not disconnected once (the following part of the message is a joke) therefore there is nothing wrong with the servers and its all your fault and you should download less RAM.
(this is an honest part of the message): What continent you on? And what about said others? Are they from similar area? If not it may be a case of the room malfunctioning/getting crashed.
vernal forge
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 4672 users in VRChat currently
vocal shard
yeah, my game connection is crap atm
near ether
EU
faint skiff
Login on the website seems to be hanging at the moment too (and if you can get it to log in, the friends list is sketchy)
ivory axle
yeah the same problem that was happening to me last night is happening again and other people from the UK are having the same problem too smh
vocal shard
i noticed the same last night. havent played in almost 2 months so i thought my game was out of date or something
vocal shard
As far as I know there are at least 2 groups attacking vrc servers at all times
livid crescent
Hello
vocal shard
Hi
luna have we met? i had a friend named Luna Mochi but she vanished. you kinda remind me of her
vocal shard
Hello
hola
What's up?
eh. just bored at work. doing some model editing on the side
lucid lichen
elfin cloak
hallo there
is there a way for logitech pc xbox controller buttons to be configured
inside of vrchat because i have big problem by recognize what button info assignment do anyway.
for example i see a bunch of joy 1 axis 1 - 10 and fire 1 - 3
so what a hack is axis for 1 - 10 fire - 3 buttons and how to know what button do some commands it's really stupid that there is no any farther explanations for button gamepad unlike keyboard buttons that is already preconfigured in vrchat
and which is even more confusing
when i asign left arrow of my gamepad it asign as youstick 2 axis 5
any help?
ruby needle
well... i dont think that its stupid that unsupported stuff isn't documented or working directly 
elfin cloak
any chance that i can asign my gamepad buttons inside of vrchat so i will not exit and rejoin in vrchat again and again?
ruby needle
no
slate verge
moshi moshi
vestal pier
@elfin cloak You can use the Steam overlay to remap buttons to an xbox controller theres a default profile for it
fluid bloom
Rip
vocal shard
srry 😛
vocal shard
Oogabooga
hybrid zenith
Giant avatars are the best
inner cape
I disagree
faint skiff
They get an instant "hide" from me unless it's in an equally as spacious environment. I'd say probably 99% of the time the user is a desktop user and is blissfully unaware of how annoying it is to other users.
covert blade
Never realized that really tall avatars are a big issue, and I've played in VR with someone having an avatar so tall that he had to crouch to fit into the room.
vocal shard
I don't have an issue with big avatar. As long as it's not taking up too much space.
faint skiff
I mean like 3 stories tall big.
covert blade
It really depends. The bus avatar is a lot more annoying for example than some avatar that is like.... I dunno 16 meters tall or something. Or half the size of the attack on titan ones.
hollow breach
It’s tough switching out of big avatars in VR
covert blade
Yup
hollow breach
Gotta use dat mouse to help
faint skiff
Like the attack on titan ones and the giant Dva. That may be OK outdoors, but it's a bit annoying in the pug, it literally takes up most the room...
covert blade
Actually I think if you use your left hand then it works better if I recall correctly
hollow breach
I tried both, wouldn’t work
covert blade
One time I switched to the Colossal Titan and I had no idea how I would change back unless I had another avatar in the world to switch to
I've only seen one avatar that was like half the size of the AoT one.
hollow breach
I have an avatar that is x3 the size of the AoT one :3
covert blade
The second floor room is big enough for that one so I was okay but I've also seen the Ikarus Bus thingy and it just clips through every other person
Oof
Big avatars can be nice but most of the ones I've found were too big
Likewise, I've also found way too many avatars that are way too small
And being pet-sized has the problem of the camera being basically unusable, at least I couldn't figure out how to press any of the buttons on the camera.
faint skiff
I made a mini version of my main avatar for when I want to look around or listen to conversations without getting in the way. Feels like a nice compromise to being invisible.
(like knee-high tall)
covert blade
Ah, so not super tiny. I've seen avatars with the size of a coffee cup.
slate verge
do you guys know if vr players can use desktop idle animations? like crouch and prone
covert blade
I don't think crouch is a thing but prone is if you get low enough.
Not recommendable to do in VR though
slate verge
well i know that vr players can just normally prone in real life, but i meant as in using the default prone animation when in vr mode
covert blade
Hmm nononono, VR players cannot just normally prone in real life unless they have full body tracking. Otherwise, if you get your headset low enough, the game will switch to the prone animation you would usually have in desktop mode.
vestal sleet
You can't have the animation with full body tracking
slate verge
@covert blade so let me just double check here, its the Z key animation for desktop users, vr players can use the Z animation too right?
inner cape
no
they can't
they physically have to lay on the floor to trigger the prone animation
slate verge
so idle animations are desktop exclusive
inner cape
no
covert blade
sigh
slate verge
i don't get it
covert blade
You know I've explained it to you twice now, I will not explain it to you a third time.
inner cape
I'll take it from here, Mason
covert blade
Thank you
inner cape
what are you confused about, fooni?
slate verge
how does that work? so by lowering the vr headset in real life, it just goes into z prone animation correct?
inner cape
yep
slate verge
@inner cape even if its a custom animation correct?
inner cape
yes
slate verge
okay wow just needed some clarification thanks
inner cape
frail escarp
uwu
hybrid zenith
Big avatars are just really cool to me do lmao
sour ingot
Why is voice prioritation gone?
ruby needle
cus the system has been reworked and the setting isnt needed anymore
opaque hawk
The new system imho works really well.
sour ingot
Well if you get into a karaoke world it doesn't seem to be working in the slightest honestly
opaque hawk
Voice override regions are currently broken if that is what you are referring to
Though the details regarding it’s brokenness I do not know
finite kraken
How much for the index controllers when you already have a standard vive
slate verge
someone posted a link about that couple of days ago
faint skiff
£260 or so I think
£460 for the headset, £260 for 2 controllers, £140 per base-station.
finite kraken
In us currency?
fluid bloom
just convert it :p
finite kraken
Aaaaahh fine
faint skiff
Given how global pricing works, it's probably the same just with dollars
fluid bloom
i would do it for you but i dont know how to do that funt or whatever symbol on keyboard soz
faint skiff
covert blade
@fluid bloom That's British Pound
You don't need to be able to type it in order to convert it
covert blade
https://www1.oanda.com/currency/converter/ It's as easy as that
Though ^ is only true if you actually pay with that currency because the converted price =/= price listed for each region.
finite kraken
£260 isn’t much in my head I was thinking 500
elfin cloak
@vestal pier thank's for the tip
✌🏻
finite kraken
Why do I have to reserve the controllers aren’t they already they out?
The index ones
slate verge
Hm....I was told that by the end of the august month it will be out there in as release
finite kraken
I knew 1 guy who had the index controllers
Said it worked like you can switch from gestures to full finger control
faint skiff
Yup, you press either of the thumb sticks and it activates gesture control
(so they don't activate accidentally when you don't want them to)
If it says reserve, it's because they're either currently out of stock, or they're not yet available in your region.
rigid crescent
I've got too many friends with scuffed left controllers, either the "feature" of a thumbstick, tracking issues, or dead zones
Not to mention the implementation kinda sucks for me since I depend on gestures a lot, and I see people struggle to use them still
faint skiff
The only gesture I have trouble with is thumbs up and that's only because I'm new to the controller and rarely use that emote
(despite the emote being an obvious "hand closed, thumb up" which is literally what a thumbs up is)
pallid yew
How much of an improvement are the index controllers over the original vive wands? Had the reservation come through today and I’m tempted
fluid bloom
i mean
you either have big bulky sticks in your hand that have buttons that move your hands (unless using differnet avatars)
or you have full control
ruby needle
vive wand's are by far the worst vr controller out there imo
while knuckles are the best out there for now.
so basically night and day difference
pallid yew
Ah ok, also how are they for games outside of vr chat as well, say beatsaber or Pavlov ect. Still a night or day difference?
fluid bloom
not that much differnce there as you dont need to individually use fingers
vocal shard
If you're ignoring the finger tracking aspect of the knuckles index controllers, two big things it has over the Vive wands are a thumbstick, and that they are strapped to your hands. So you can let go and not subconsciously always be hanging onto the controller, adding to immersion
So if you say, throw a grenade, you can do it more naturally and immersive rather than always hanging on
covert blade
And possibly accidentally throw your controller
lime umbra
It takes some relearning to go from vive to index but its worth it.
fluid bloom
i'd imagine so
:D
pallid yew
Ok thanks guys. Going to be £250 poorer now 😂
fluid bloom
worth it 😂
frozen prawn
Anyone 16+ and want to play with me? 😯
fluid bloom
kinda specific
I would but im going to bed :/
rigid crescent
fluid bloom
oh hey mic
rigid crescent
oh i forgot youre on the other side of the world
rigid leaf
Hi
rigid crescent
i was like "why is he going to bed..."
rigid crescent
its bad that non-american timezones are still a second thought to me despite how international my friend groups and this game in general are lol
rigid leaf
It’s almost 7:00 for me
rigid leaf
?
hollow breach
Why we have to be 16+?
fluid bloom
they a perv
frozen prawn
@fluid bloom not really specific. I'm 16 and want someone my age or older to play with is all
hollow breach
I’m 12, can I join?
rigid leaf
We have to be 16+?
fluid bloom
yea yea ik its understandable
fluid bloom
cough cough ToS
hollow breach
Shhhhhh
rigid leaf
An a oop
hollow breach
I hope I get accepted
rigid leaf
Where do I get good avatars
hollow breach
@zinc sundial ur name triggers me
rigid leaf
Accepted where?
zinc sundial
I know no one wants to help people but can ANYONE please.... Donate my PayPal? " n.sultan2006@gmail.com " I know you won't do it but please I need VR Chat like everyone does.... 😭
fluid bloom
by sleepy
hollow breach
LMAO
fluid bloom
alice what do u need it for?
zinc sundial
I used Sultan cause my father died and I used his name for my PayPal
rigid leaf
Vr chat is free
zinc sundial
The VR
hollow breach
@zinc sundial yo I know how I can help u
rigid leaf
I wish I could tho
fluid bloom
go work like the rest of us did
rigid leaf
Oof
zinc sundial
Im just a kid!! 😭
frozen prawn
@zinc sundial its free?
hollow breach
I got a job when I was a kid
zinc sundial
@frozen prawn The god dam br.
rigid leaf
Mow lawns like I do then
zinc sundial
vr*
rigid leaf
I’m 13 that’s how I make money
frozen prawn
😗
fluid bloom
get rift s
400-450$ depending on where youre tryna get it and its worth it imo
hollow breach
Yes, us 13 year olds must rise
rigid leaf
You said you were 12
spiral seal
I'm 5
hollow breach
IM 13!!!!
spiral seal
Pretty epic
rigid leaf
Dang mini
hollow breach
@zinc sundial plz change ur name
zinc sundial
T^T No.
hollow breach
To either Xx_Alice_xX
spiral seal
What's wrong with their name lol
hollow breach
Or XxAlicexX
fluid bloom
xx is dead alice
:/
hollow breach
I like the first one better though
rigid leaf
What’s wrong with the name?
spiral seal
^
hollow breach
It’s... uneven
spiral seal
So?
rigid leaf
Lmao
hollow breach
_ on one side but not the other?!??
rigid leaf
So
hollow breach
It triggers me and other Xbox 360 gamers
fluid bloom
thanos doesnt aproove :o
hollow breach
Ur not a tru gamer if this doesn’t fukin bother u
spiral seal
So?
hollow breach
U fukin blebs
spiral seal
K
hollow breach
OMG WHY
rigid leaf
GTA 5 on Xbox 360 was my life
spiral seal
Wdym
rigid leaf
Lmao
hollow breach
That was on the Xbox 360?
rigid leaf
Yeah
spiral seal
Yes lol
hollow breach
Tf
rigid leaf
Your uncultured
spiral seal
Facts
rigid leaf
Sorry
rigid leaf
So where do I get avatars?
ruby needle
If you dont want to make one your self, then avatar worlds
ruby needle
there is a few tutorials for that out there, check them out
rigid leaf
Ok
hollow breach
long tutorials
hollow breach
Yes
rigid leaf
Ima make one tho
hollow breach
Press X to doubt
rigid leaf
X
fleet raven
Does anyone else have this strange glitch where sometimes you can't add people or see your avatars and have to reload vrchat and sign back in?
fluid bloom
sometimes avatars are stuck at loading at 100 for me
fluid bloom
dunno
long musk
Has anyone else been blocked on VRChat for no reason? Because I joined a friend of mine and I almost immediately got blocked.
hollow breach
Yes
long musk
Makes me a little upset because i try my best to be a nice person. Heck I don’t even talk on VRChat.
fluid bloom
people be dix sometimes
hollow breach
People are bitches
fluid bloom
^
outer hare
Could anyone help me in what I put in #user-support-old ?
fluid bloom
not sure if that's a thing you can do
outer hare
hm
long musk
I’m on quest and was a lucario. Been trying to get known user for a while and i guess that block will set me back for a good bit.
outer hare
As long as you maintain game hours, avatar uploads and stuff like that, you'll be fine. Blocks dont affect your rank really
past cosmos
The internet is a cruel place, i'm used to it
rigid crescent
yeah blocks don't matter for much lol
know someone public and normal banned a combined total of 3 or 4 times, blocked by hundreds and hundreds of people, still trusted no nuisance
most of the time it'll only set you back early in the game, and probably not by much then either
outer hare
I mean my ban was only temp and I was trusted before I got it
fluid bloom
why did u get banned
rigid crescent
Trust rank is pretty meaningless in the grand scheme
outer hare
Uh rather not say in a public chat
fluid bloom
feel free to dm
icy vine
Having trouble downloading worlds and avatars. Anyone else, or just me?
kindred nimbus
Me to^^
icy vine
Blargh...
faint skiff
ERPing in public while two other people, dressed as Hitler and Stalin watched.
fluid bloom
damn
compact river
Avatar is norm why people get blocked instantly
vocal shard
@compact river wym
You get blocked instantly despite a normal avatar? Or someone else
@rigid crescent also, I dunno. I hit trusted after a few weeks. My friend however (having posted like 12 avatars and have well over a thousand hours) is only known user. I could only conclude it was bc he was obnoxious and people muted an blocked em. It’s enough to make your points stagnate at least.
candid panther
Go to mcgetas on vr chat
rigid crescent
A few weeks from starting you hit Trusted, or from the system being implemented?
vocal shard
From starting
rigid crescent
that's pretty good, it could be friends as well on their end
vocal shard
They were just as outgoing as me if not more so. That’s why it baffled me
They’re just a louder me lol
rigid crescent
well "quality" of friends matters as well, it's a lot of stuff but most of the time that kind of thing won't prevent you from being promoted since there's way worse
like the person i know with the msot blocks, 900-something, is still trusted
grave surge
hey.
vocal shard
There’s so many factors involved in getting trusted
rigid crescent
yeah definitely
vocal shard
I hit trusted at around 300 hours and people still ask how
When really I just have no clue. I’d like to believe it’s cuz I’m cool as heck 
rigid crescent
yeah i think my friend was trusted at 300
i'll never know when i hit it since i was Veteran when that system dropped
compact river
i was trusted rather early
even tried to demote myself by deleting everything i uploaded
was known as soon as they put in the system
vocal shard
I just think friends is the biggest jump up
Even past avatars perhaps
I have a friend who has 2500+ hours, well over 20 avatars, and just hit trusted a week or two ago
rigid crescent
Yeah once you hit a certain point, it kinda doesn't matter what you do, you'll stay trusted since im guessing its just an infinite climb
vocal shard
She just didn’t add many people
rigid crescent
I've noticed though that friends have a lot to do with it compared to other stuff, even fro mthe start people pointed out how strongly it was weighted towards friends
Not just the amount, but their rank as well
vocal shard
I do wish there was something far past trusted. Because leaving trusted safety on these days isn’t even that great
compact river
same setting for trusted to visitor for me
rigid crescent
If there was the bad people woudl have that too, there's lots of bad ones in all ranks
vocal shard
Not like the other ranks though
compact river
i would set the new rank to same perms as visitor tbh ya
vocal shard
You’d have to get trusted first, but after that when you hit a certain point you’d rank up, but lose it after a few mishaps
I guess make the bar to climb for in that rank follow you
So if it was one million points, it’d keep going up if you hit two million
rigid crescent
Like an actual trusted rank for people without any major moderation issues
vocal shard
Yeah. The problem with the system is that the ranks are locked to some invisible number of points. But we aren’t
rigid crescent
That's bound to cause actual problems though as well unfortuantely
vocal shard
We have an infinitely growing amount
rigid crescent
No matter the rank though it'd be as infested with bad people as any other rank
Very few people report in this game, so very few people have any action taken against them
Even fewer report major issues with any proof
vocal shard
I usually report those I block. Like the two people who were crashing The Pug this morning
And dos-ing anyone who hid their avatars
rigid crescent
yeah sadly thats not the majority of people, they just leave or hide or block and leave it at that
vocal shard
Something needs to be changed for the ranking system
It’s just hard to think of what works in a community that can be friendly, or very toxic
compact river
i would not miss the ranking system if it vanished
vocal shard
I enjoy working towards something. Ranks were fun while I earned them. But I do wish it was implemented differently, although I don’t have an idea as to how different
The system is useful enough for now since crashers are often new user or visitor.
compact river
I'm fine with the system of blocking avatars by performance
vocal shard
But maybe after the safety and security fixes come in, we’ll see some interesting changes
rigid crescent
The performance rank is pretty inaccurate still that's why i dont use it for autoblocks
compact river
its easy for me to see who i have to check
as dropping from 120 to 30 frames is cancer
rigid crescent
Well if you have to check then it's not a good system lol
vocal shard
Does the performance system block avatars based on gestures?
Most avatars are fine for me until they whip out a ray beam of lag
rigid crescent
It tracks any and all stats on an avatar, including things hidden behind animations which is kind of unfortunate
compact river
if you could edit the bound by what it blocked by tho that would be something
rigid crescent
The day all these numbers are customizable is the day the system is good
since proper weighting of the different values seems to be a pipe dream
So I'd be able to set blocked mats to 37, blocked meshes to 5, transforms to 93, etc.
just any values I like instead of their "yeah 70,001 particles is as bad as 256 transforms"
compact river
i really wonder how long it takes some people to copy paste dyn bone onto every bone in the hair
i see a lot of that rather than using a root bone idk why
rigid crescent
differing values i guess
faint skiff
I feel I should add this to an emote at some point... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGgxujhP1Ss
languid beacon
Requesting an excellent version of
compact river
like custom so you can still have people with larger bound sizes show up if you want you know rather simple
tawny snow
Am I the only one who hates those global shaders that cover your entire fucking screen
faint skiff
Yes, it's supposed to be a reportable offence, but good luck figuring out who did it most the time.
compact river
that or meme avatars
shell marsh
whats up gamers
vocal shard
Young gamer
tawny snow
hello gamer
Dude I downloaded too many avatars
I have like 30 GB of just avatars and props on my hard drive
meager solstice
To be fair I think a lot of older players (time wise) have more than 30gb
vestal pier
Older time wise could still mean age 😉 you mean playtime
vocal shard
2700+ hours
vestal pier
I just crossed 1k hours
vestal pier
I'd say me too but the majority of them are me just testing stuff
Well not majority but you catch my drift
rigid crescent
3.4k
vestal pier
Vrc is my first one to hit 1k
Not surprised considering it's a social app, discord is probably in the tens of thousands
vocal shard
2,256 Hours for me on VRChat.
Half sleeping, half avatar making, half avatar searching.
vestal pier
Three halves don't make a whole 😕
warped bridge
i was playing vr chat and it crashed qwq
vestal pier
Thanks for letting us know
vocal shard
Yeah, it happens more often than you know.
tawny snow
@vocal shard Lol
vocal shard
Hmm?
tawny snow
It's also about 2% socializing and 98% mirror viewing
vocal shard
Oh yes.
tawny snow
Mirror Simulator 2019
vocal shard
Don't forget it's not "VRChat" it's "Mirror Simulator"
tawny snow
😦
tawny snow
dude who's about to go to the club on saturday
vagrant juniper
@vocal shard dude its VRDating Simulator
tawny snow
aw yeah
tawny snow
it's today at 9 pm
Hopefully unity finishes updating before then
I need to get my avatars uploaded
flat narwhal
void club? ill be there
twin ore
9 pm PST?
faint skiff
Do VRC actually remove crasher avatars? I've stumbled across a few more and they always seem to be uploaded by a Trusted User. You'd think they'd remove them and disable that person's uploading permissions.
@vocal shard And yeah, I've been getting that a lot lately.
cunning pebble
Why do I have to keep downloading the same worlds I go to almost everyday?
wasn't like this before, is there an option to keep the cache or something?
opaque hawk
world creator could be updating the world daily
cunning pebble
Weird, is The Pug always being updated
compact river
not sure about now in the past it was all the time tho
proper needle
well i cant play
it let me enter and everything but nothing is loading
dapper viper
what is going on with vrchat? me and some my friends and randoms were in a great pug then we crashed then my friend who streaming has crashed
dapper viper
oof
proper needle
says 0b and thats it
dapper viper
hmmm my friend having that issues too with his ob
proper needle
finally open
dapper viper
yay
dapper viper
hmm well i say give it time @proper needle
proper needle
hopefully
dapper viper
mhm
proper needle
sometimes my internet is failure
dapper viper
same with mine
small pine
What kind of pc you're running it on..?
proper needle
predator
small pine
What processor..?
small pine
Hmm.. that's strange why yours is acting up like that then
proper needle
wireless
small pine
If you can try wired.. it should improve your experience a bit better
winged thistle
is anyone here using the Valve Index headset with Vive Basestations 1.0? does the Index come with it's own breakout box with bluetooth to connect the basestations or do I need to keep the Vive breakout box in addition?
or how does this work
rough pulsar
@winged thistle the Index itself has some BT hardware in it for lighthouse power management.
winged thistle
so I won't need the Vive breakout box at all anymore?
rough pulsar
Nope
rough pulsar
Aw hell yeah
Valve also recently posted another deep-dive article on the development of the off-ear speakers on the index
winged thistle
yeah actually the speakers and microphone are the main reason I decided to buy it 😄
I'm so sick of having to wear my headphones over the HMD since they hurt after a few hours
and the modmic is also annoying to deal with
rapid carbon
Can i move my hand with just oculust touch in desktop mode ?
rough pulsar
Nope, need the Rift HMD for the controllers to connect to.
buoyant hemlock
Hello guy
vestal pier
You could put your HMD down on a flat surface and watch the game through your regular screen and control your hands if you line it up all properly
raven aurora
Interesting 😯
fluid bloom
that would be hard to control though
since you would still have to look up and down with your mouse
vestal pier
You wouldnt be able to look up and down at all
rapid carbon
Thank for the reply ノ(・ω・)ノ
rigid leaf
Does anyone know what a good middle price body tracking vr is because like this game and really want to buy one.
faint skiff
You basically have 2 bad options and one good option. Unfortunately the good option is the most expensive.
rigid leaf
Oh
faint skiff
Kinect = works but only in one direction and prone to spazzing Nolo works but is wired and not great. Basically the defacto is Vive trackers with basestations.
3 trackers + (at least) 2 base stations.
rigid leaf
I do not understand really any of that
umbral reef
tl;dr all options beside the expensive one are bad and have fairly big drawbacks
rigid leaf
So what is the good one called
faint skiff
Vive Trackers (you want the V2 with the turquoise logo on them) and HTC/Valve Base Stations.
ruby needle
despite the wired issue, nolo isn't too bad in its 180° intendet use. But the extra wire isnt really great at all.
pure hemlock
So I think I ran into one of the biggest avatars in VRChat the other day.... 1.5m polys, 57 skinned meshes, 1795 meshes, 5349 materials slots... Was wondering why it took like 5-10 minutes to load
"It has a lot of animations on it". No dude you have an entire video game on that avatar lol
faint skiff
@cunning pebble That's correct. Owl was updating the Pug the other night a lot, so almost every time you loaded, it would have redownloaded it
warped bridge
why dose it keep crashing -w-
uneven orbit
could someone help, vrchat is not detecting my laptops microphone?
slate verge
@uneven orbit think you have to test the setttings
uneven orbit
how do i do that?
rigid leaf
Esc
uneven orbit
darn it, i googled how to do it and nothing is working
rigid leaf
Hmm
rigid leaf
I guess it should
faint skiff
Laptop mics are typically terrible due to picking up machine noise and everything else. A headset should be much better.
uneven orbit
god my dad might be mad at me lol
uneven orbit
shit, i didnt know that was a thing
rigid leaf
Oof
languid beacon
Man are generics ever going to get fixed
faint skiff
Careful, isn't that a bannable phrase?
languid beacon
wat
rigid crescent
They're talking about someone claiming to be banned for saying something about generic rigs
snow wadi
Ewwo @faint skiff o/
faint skiff
Heya @snow wadi
snow wadi
true sky
@rigid crescent probably because they spammed every single channel maybe?
rigid crescent
No clue
true sky
you dont get banned without a reason
languid beacon
Hey, I only say it once. And only when there's new patch notes. But I should stop
rigid crescent
Usually
true sky
Someone fix Generic Rigs even though i dont use them
languid beacon
Well
I don't want them fixed for generics per se
it also breaks non-humanoid parameters on humanoids on walk overrides
which vehicles really need
otherwise it's just a car with wheels that don't spin when you move, etc
cold talon
shh shh, don't say generics are broken 
languid beacon
me whenever new patch notes come out https://i.imgur.com/IFmsjGu.gif
What does the error message say? (Copy it exactly if possible)
ebon sandal
VRC keeps crashing. f.
daring wraith
Why tho
ruby needle
cus neither is this channel nor this server the place for that.
daring wraith
Lol
shell marsh
good to see vrchat's server are not responding like allways
still lark
At least they're consistent!
shell marsh
sad facts
would be nice if my unity would not freeze becuse VRChat's login proccess is foreground with no timeout
faint skiff
I'm getting black screens on world change now too 😦
rigid leaf
Are the servers bad today or people have bad computers?
ruby needle
well there is more to it then the servers it self
often the issues are with the route
jovial pulsar
Quick question, is vote to kick abuse something that I can report?
Two of us literally just got vote to kicked because we muted an obnoxious person but they had several friends in the instance.
Idk how VRC deals with this but I know it's bannable in other games I've played.
vocal shard
You can report any form of harassment. You can make a ticket here http://help.vrchat.com/new
ivory axle
not like the tickets will make any difference tho
loading has been very buggy once again smh
faint skiff
Join the VRChat hub, first thing I hear is "why is there a big fat ni**er in here". It's not even rare anymore, white name-plate desktop users with disposable accounts I guess.
fluid bloom
:/
final zodiac
Isn't the VRchat Hub the first world any new user gets forced into anyway?
It makes sense just about those types would be present there
meager solstice
I think they go to their home first
faint skiff
I left 20 minute ago, I just needed a bigger mirror to check something with (as the home one is rather cramped)
hollow breach
Fak
vocal shard
Hey sooo. I just found this thing that optimizes dynamic bones to a huge degree and improves performance. Apparently sadly I find out later it was a client
And sadly those are “illegal” in vrchat. Sad VR hours
primal oak
Yeah, no kind of modified client is allowed. Though I do wish the creators of the "good" modded clients like the one you talked about would share their optimization ideas with the team.
At this point though I wouldn't trust anyone trying to justify the usage of a modded client given how insecure they are considered to be.
vocal shard
Yeah like. Maybe they should allow a rule system where if the client isn’t deviant and is meant for optimization for example. It can be allowed
Or at least contact the person who made it and add it to the base game. Apparently this client was able to run thousands of dyanmic bones with a bunch of avatars and with its optimization. It barely slows the game down.
That’s honestly amazing but sadly people who don’t want there pc to melt while using the bones will get banned. I get that clients are not allowed because, there’s some evil ass clients, but I think the “just turn off dynamics bones” isn’t a good argument alternative
torn nebula
Probably the better way to handle things is to work with the DB developer to get it added to the base asset, then file a canny requesting vrc update their DB version
vocal shard
It’s possible that they tried to contact them and it was impossible or they refused to use there work for the benefit of the game. I’ve heard that some of these clients have effectively fixed some of bugs people have complained about or even for there own protection against ddos or to counter users with crash guns and other evil deeds. But I think getting banned for wanting protection or better optimization is a bit too far
rigid crescent
at that point you're picking and choosing what rulebreakers get banned which is a slippery slope to begin with
vocal shard
It is but it would be cool if somehow they adapted some of these good clients to the base game.
Or at least verified by the devs
compact river
base game or no go
having to install a client for something like that is stupid af
vocal shard
Hell I can already feel a “watch your mouth” ban for talking about it. Vrchat updates are slow and from my experience at least. Game gets buggier each update. It would be great if these optimization clients that actually fix the problems people have had and protection stuff. For the base game instead of waiting for the devs to finally patched them out. When people have already developed the fixes and you can download them. However that makes devs angry and throw the hammer
rigid crescent
no one is going to just ban you, they'll, at best, ask you to stop if there's an issue
vocal shard
Hi, first of all "Hello" ... and i hope you all feel well. I got a little/big problem and slowly i lose hope that some one gonna help me, but first i will start with information about problem. I hear my self in VRChat , when i push "V" i see mic is active but after 0.5 sec (something like that) i hear my self repeting myself ... i reinstal audio drivers, reinstall Windows 10 , i check this option in speaker "Hear your self in headphones" and its off , i reinstall VRChat + i delet cash files ... plus my avatars dont move their lips (any of my avatars) ppl hear me but i hear my self too so its immpossible to speak right now. Please help me cuz i slowly looooseing my mind 😦 ... thank you and sorry for my english 😦
rigid crescent
VRChat updates are hardly slow though, and I don't really see how the game is any buggier. It's pretty much the same as it's been for like a year now, people just exaggerate the hell out of the issues lol
Most of the bugs people are getting "afteR" each patch are things I've heard of complained here for ages
vocal shard
I understand clients are a bit dicey because I’ve seen the evil destruction shit they’ve done in game but at least have some devs contact the good ones and counter the bad ones with the protective stuff people have made. Or at least verified, to say it’s ok to use
rigid crescent
Like have you actually looked at the version history?
vocal shard
But it does get annoying when people can ban evade or evil destroy people’s PCs with these clients
rigid crescent
No one is destroying anyone's PCs
vocal shard
OMG you don’t even know
rigid crescent
These claims have never been proven lol
compact river
this it what happens when you are in little closed off discord groups and then leave them
vocal shard
There are some clients that can either bluescreen or corrupt files
rigid crescent
It's always "my friend's cousin's brother's sister's godfather got his GPU melted"
queen mango
They're not confirmed to destroy PCs. At worst, they will only trigger system failsafes
vocal shard
It’s like a virus client
rigid crescent
See, now you're just spreading misinfo. That's the point you get asked by mods to stop
No one is executing any files on your PC from this game
vocal shard
Or from my experience. A person I can’t report or block because of the client they use