Or something similar at least.
#vrchat-general-2
small wing
desert stratus
never heard of this spline shit but sounds cool
wake me up in 11 months when dynb alt comes out from vrc team and is not only not shit but also is lightweight
frosty veldt
Emphasis on not shit
desert stratus
how would splnnes factor in? what makes rhem lighter than normal bones?
small wing
VRM enters the lobby
small wing
Well think blender cycles and their new realtime engine.
There are some things its good for, but time will improve it.
To say that splines are the way to go right now would be stupid. Same goes for Eevee when there is better options.
But eventually we will find more and more ways to do things with less limitation over time.
vestal pier
Polygons are a thing of the past
small wing
Yep
small wing
cough vectors cough
frosty veldt
How would that be any better than polygons though?
vestal pier
Less limitation more room for detail
rendering a math equation rather than a bunch of points that are told to draw geo between them seems easier?
small wing
Polygons are soon to be a thing of the past just as much as rasterization is going to be used less and less the more raytracing takes over.
inner cape
game engines use polies anyway 
vestal pier
Not for long
inner cape
inner cape
๐คท
small wing
I mean think about this, Did you ever expect VR to be a thing when you were super young? Things are coming faaaaaast.
desert stratus
raytracing for VRC would be fucking cool but how would it work out for the creator? like i dont know too much about materials and shaders themselves but just enough about light tracing to know that future customization would be wildly different
inner cape
I thought of it as some super expensive tech I'll never get
but then I did...
vestal pier
People barely understand current methods of rendering / pbr stuff in vrchat
peak perch
CREEPER
desert stratus
like how would i be able to control whether my avatar is toon shaded, realistically shaded, has shitty startsphere shaders, etc. ?
small wing
Its way easier than you would think actually. Probably just as easy as the current method if not more.
vestal pier
i dont expect anyone to understand ray tracing
small wing
Imagine not having to bake light maps over and over again ๐
vestal sleet
Rendering and calculation is complex and expensive
desert stratus
really? from what i understand ray tracing puts a lot more of the lighting work in the hands of ZA WARUDO (ot the scene??)) rather than the player
small wing
Raytracing is just a stripped down biased version of path tracing.
vestal pier
Game engines will always have ways of being more customizable
small wing
Which mimics real life to an extent.
umbral reef
All I can think of is those poor gpu's that don't have the lose raytrace cores
small wing
Depending on the ray epsilon and the overall bias of those rays of light.
desert stratus
im aware of what it is, maybe tje way it was explained to me is a little bit scuffed, but its slowly starting to make more sense with me how you could go about customizing shaders in a ray-traced world
small wing
Same way you would do right now honestly.
desert stratus
maybe VRC lighting would also look less scuffed >u>
small wing
Raytracing is all about the lighting, so all the current shaders like standard should support it just the same
desert stratus
tbf most vrc worlds are lit pretty decently imo, not a world creator dont beat me
its the shadeless avatars that fucking kill it for me duud
small wing
They used to all be toon ๐
Avatar testing used to be toon
now its gone pbr'ish
still kinda toon, but less bright.
There was a huge toon craze about a year or two ago for whatever reason
desert stratus
dude i love PBR shit i still barely have any idea of what im doing (poked a little into speculars, i need to lesrn more about metallic shit and everything surrounding that) but its so fucking cool
vestal pier
I use standard on my worlds, despite them being unforgivingly cartoony
desert stratus
like ahah look at me btch my avatar isnt shadeless cuz im cool huhauh, or something
small wing
If you like PBR then you would nutt over my map I just released ๐
ashen harbor
anyone here ever used skullcandy crusher headphones?
desert stratus
im ready
small wing
"The Box RTX"
vestal pier
false advertising ๐
small wing
Have fun ๐
desert stratus
oh yeah you made that map shit dude ive been waiting for that
small wing
It is haha
vestal pier
Its still cool though
desert stratus
im literally going home from DC today gonna check it out at infinity am
mental shuttle
we found the solution to the closing your hand issue!
small wing
Steam bindings
mental shuttle
Just change the grip button's "click" on Oculus to none in Steam controller bindings
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532539030026321921/606831210622222336/unknown.png
phew
desert stratus
aw yeah, time to GAME. just kiddi ng home is a 12hr drive </3
small wing
Oof
Well, sleep first when you get there.
Don't want you getting sick with all my flashy lights and low frames lol
Cause that map is a lot
90 fps by default but if everything is on then its pretty bad on a 1050ti
desert stratus
oh dear GOD
ivory axle
oh lord
small wing
Hey that was my line
hollow breach
shhhhhhhhhhh
desert stratus
do you need a hug? :<
hollow breach
and you know what else?
small wing
He really stole my line ๐ฎ
hollow breach
I play VR with it!
small wing
What a nerd.
ivory axle
oh my
hollow breach
and use full body!!!!!!
desert stratus
i5 6400 + $50 motherboard
ivory axle
nO
hollow breach
Behold my power
small wing
๐
hollow breach
Been playing VR with it for a year and a half now lmao
ivory axle
damn
small wing
Finna go look at some big anime in the Virtual Reality conversation game. Take care peasants. ๐
desert stratus
ohkk
desert stratus
CPU: burning
Motherboard: crushed
PSU: screaming
yep, its VR time ๐ 
๐
ivory axle
oh boi
desert stratus
do yall think that a 550w seasonic PSU from 2017 can run ryzen 3700x? asking cuz i may or may not try something fucky wucky in the next hour or so
hollow breach
probably yeah
im pretty sure it doesnt need much wattage
i wanna upgrade my CPU so badly ; (
but in order to do that i need a new motherboard and ram
prob need custom cpu cooler as well
and new case
ugh this sucks
ivory axle
big oof on your wallet
vestal sleet
I wanna upgrade everything
1060 to probably 2080
I5 to i7
Itx board to matx to I can get more PCIe slot
Then get wireless
Then index controller
ivory axle
noice
vestal sleet
Except it cost too much my heart can't justify it
ivory axle
i had to upgrade my gpu because the only hdmi port broke and i have vr so oof on my bank
had to upgrade all of my pc, was around ยฃ800
hollow breach
I already upgraded my GPU
like a few months back
And lemme tell, thank god i made dat upgrade
ivory axle
what gpu is it now
hollow breach
Cause i was running VR on the GTX 760 4GB
ivory axle
oh mY
hollow breach
I got the RTX 2070
ivory axle
it lasted me for 5 years
hollow breach
Ive reached 90fps with that bb
ivory axle
yeah it was good but just not optimal
tawny ore
I can relate; I was sitting on a Radeon HD 7970 for ages
faint skiff
I remember having that card and being sad that it didn't run GTA4 as well as I'd hoped, lol (the 7770 "GHz Edition")
wanton sedge
life
snow wadi
Mine was HIS OC 7770
The way they marketed it, like it was suppose to render a cinebench scene or something lol
faint skiff
I think the 6950 I replaced it with was a HIS OC card.
wanton sedge
mine is on fire
torpid dome
can someone help me in #avatars-2-general
torpid dome
how do i change an avatar's animation style to humanoid?
faint skiff
Click the prefab > Rig > Humanoid
faint skiff
@snow wadi Heya
hallow bolt
Oops
rigid crescent
nah lol
tacit plank
Tell them that their mic is loud?
hollow breach
U think they will care?
opaque hawk
They might
hollow breach
Lmao if someone were to tell me that I was loud
I be even louder
Why?
Cause fuck you
Sorry that was toxic Iโm not like that
But people are like that
tacit plank
Not everybody wants to annoy those around them dude. Most don't know about it
If they are dicks about it, click them and click "sound off"
opaque hawk
If someone were to act like that when I politely ask them to turn down their mic, I would immediately mute them
hollow breach
Really?
Iโve met a person with the shittiest mic in the world, told him, said he is poor, told him sucks to be him
Question, is it bad to switch between hard drives on a PC?
umbral reef
how do you mean?
hollow breach
I have 3 hard drives, 2 of them with Windows OS, 1 just for games
tawny ore
No difference, really.
tacit plank
Booting to another install through teh bios? It's fine
opaque hawk
Is it a laptop?
hollow breach
Desktop, and I did do it through the bios
tawny ore
I keep an original clone of the fresh installed windows in one hard drive which I named "Stasis"; for those emergencies where everything goes tits up
hollow breach
But itโs so slow my other hard drive, like slower than ever before
So it kind of scared me
Thought I broke PC
gilded flame
press alt+f4 and you'll be safe
hollow breach
Okay dad
Jesus Christ this hard drive is so slow, no wonder I made the switch to SSD
Need to boot to my old hard drive that I used for a long time because my full body worked on that hard drive
gilded flame
just do a clean install of your windows
hollow breach
But for some reason D4VR isnโt working on my SSD
gilded flame
and everything will work 100%
hollow breach
Hereโs the thing, I got my SSD like a few months ago
still lark
Look at that traitor in the VRChat Team role
hollow breach
Clean install of windows
gilded flame
traitor?
slate verge
who
still lark
hackspanner. :P
slate verge
i still don't get it
still lark
They're playing a social VR game?!
hollow breach
Oh lmao
inner cape
I noticed it first :(
still lark
Yeah but you said it in #general-media
inner cape
bleeeeh
hollow breach
I mean I noticed but just overlooked it
vocal shard
Can someone upload avatar for me if you can help me out dm me
inner cape
hollow breach
Who thinks I should reinstall windows?
Fakin ez
Done in seconds
Wait why did both of u delete ur comments
vocal shard
tacit plank
If you got a SSD, you should use it for your OS
hollow breach
I am
tacit plank
And if it's a M.2 SSD, you shouldn't fill it more than 50% or it will slow down
faint skiff
@tacit plank It being M2 or not doesn't really come into it. Plus I've ran disks like that up to around 95% before obvious degradation.
snow wadi
@tawny ore @faint skiff @rough pulsar gimme a nudge if you're going to VRC o/
faint skiff
@snow wadi I'm off out to the pub/bars in a bit but I'll be back later. But probably after you've gone to bed unfortunately.
snow wadi
Aww
tacit plank
They have some internal cache which is faster, but can be filled up. Newer, bigger NVMe M2 ssds are even wose at it
faint skiff
Yeah, the reallocation buffer. It's fine unless you're doing a lot of writes though.
tacit plank
I can't figure out what it's called atm... But Linus did a video on it
novel elk
So uh... did they screw up world publishing again? This is like, the third time my map has gotten kicked back to Community Labs after passing into Public. It was also "grandfathered in" because it received approval like, over a year ago? Just wondering why after updating an existing public map, it's in CL now...
slate verge
maybe you need to use the right unity version to update it? not sure....
rigid crescent
Nah there's been people saying their world was pushed back to labs
It's a known bug though
novel elk
Is there anything that can be done to undo that? I have one map that I'm sure will be back on Public within the week, but some of my less popular maps... I'd hate to have to wait for them to be re-entered into the public category.... :-/
rigid crescent
You might be able to email support about it, they're pretty decent about that kind of thing
just hit em up with the website link to the world and they'll probably be able to tell it just randomly got tossed back into labs
tawny ore
Oh I've been on VRC for a bit; I'm sweaty now from all the dancing
@snow wadi I summon you to read my message which is not urgent in the slightest and will only lead to disappointment
tawny ore
I've been on for sexualobster amount of hours
snow wadi
;-;
tawny ore
Enough to encounter this gem: "Guys, how do I fix the background noise issue with my mic?" vacuum cleaner noises in the background
snow wadi
You're going off?
rigid crescent
i think i hit...12-ish today, watch like 3 movies lol
tawny ore
Nah, I'm on all night... me and this jar of nutella are gonna party
still lark
Boo
snow wadi
Preference 
snow wadi
indigo fern
snow wadi
@tawny ore o.o
tawny ore
Qhala is that your name in-game? (sorry I went to the shop for some beer)(
snow wadi
Yep
tawny ore
ok 1 sec, gonna find you
snow wadi
k
rough pulsar
@tawny ore @snow wadi Having some food and I'll hop on and :V
snow wadi
@tawny ore accepted
inner cape
I hope gut means ruined
snow wadi
@rough pulsar Hokai o/
rigid crescent
it does, lotta wolf boy avatars roll around all salty. it should work fine in a world designed to accommodate it, yknow, with willing participants
desert stratus
im gonma be incredibly weary around public worlds with mics lol
vocal shard
seriously, can vrchat stop making me get stuck on the loading screens that stays at 100%
inner cape
you will never reach the truth
your loading end is having no end at all
kore ga requiem da
gilded raft
That is the power of virtual reality requiem
gilded raft
Gamer confrontation
inner cape
mein respektugen
graceful trout
E
inner cape
stop spamming
graceful trout
Maybe
cold talon
it costs 400 thousand dollars to make this man shut up for 12 seconds
graceful trout
That is correct
cold talon
well besides jojo, there is this one animeme, called, serial experiment lain, i think you heard of it
graceful trout
Uh
inner cape
I think you got the wrong door
graceful trout
Ok
dusky mesa
VRChat broke the fucking sounds
cold talon
but my point still stands, go watch it 
dam toto Africa in an empty mall sure sounds good
cold talon
well i mean its true :shrug
umbral reef
Also im sure about it now
Im going to make my avatar into a walking scam sales person
coarse anchor
Again VRC crashed and took the PC with itself and forced it to restart
umbral reef
More thinking pyramid-style scheme crazy
cold talon
oh, hmm
desert stratus
you have to have the "speak to ur manager" haircut and carry around a satchel of lotions
umbral reef
Im keeping my avatar look but im gonna be looking for investors or trying to sell dumb products that are all memes ๐
Been kinda doing it for the past month with my older avatars by now so why not go fully into it
faint skiff
@coarse anchor Sounds like defective RAM, PSU or similar.
faint skiff
VRC hits PCs a LOT harder than most other games do.
rigid crescent
Lot to do with user created and curated content but im guessing you're just here to complain and not drop any real feedback
inner cape
case closed
tranquil cobalt
It still shouldn't force you to restart in any case unless you have something like timeout detection + recovery disabled (which you might have done for another game in the past)
It'd just restart the applicable driver otherwise
coarse anchor
i can complain about it asmuch as i want to given how the game seems tp have devolved from back to now
umbral reef
People will just meme you then if all you do is complain so go at it
keen dome
if anyone sees a small roomba in VRChat vacuuming thats me
just an fyi
i might go sicko mode
tranquil cobalt
moar like sucko mode https://images.rapgenius.com/288eb0b7641fe9199a36f927aa8ce3cc.590x590x1.jpg
vroooom
opaque hawk
Iโm old what does sicko mode mean
vocal shard
A sicko mode is when you hear distant piano in the background
sonic verge
tfw just talking to your own group but then gets randomly blocked
faint skiff
Loud/trash mic?
sonic verge
no clue, were quite out of distance,
finite kraken
How do I know when I am skilled enough to start doing commesions and charging people for me to hold their hand and do a generic mmd model
opaque hawk
Sounds like imposter syndrome
rigid crescent
Probably never if you have to ask honestly
desert stratus
i tried doing commissions once, not touching that shit again until i learn how to 3d model, if i ever consider it again at that point
rigid crescent
I just hate doing stuff for strangers lol even with money involved
desert stratus
i really wouldnt do anything if you can only do edits, no matter how good a kitbasher you are
thats just me tho
faint skiff
I had an avatar that looked like it was exploding when it spoke due to me changing prims and breaking shape keys. Now I can't see to do that even if I try.
Any tips?
desert stratus
id say start commissioning when you can do things that
1 > requires a significant amount of creative energy and
2 > by nature involves creative energy in order to return a clearly high level of quality, or at least higher than normal
particle systems and animations make more sense as commissions rather than kitbashing, as an example, avoiding straight up 3d modeling
faint skiff
Breaking them, oddly enough. It was meant as a joke and I've done it several times accidentally, but now can't figure out how to do it deliberately.
fringe glade
@finite kraken Concerning models & co: You'll know when people ask you if you're taking commission, that's how I started.
@faint skiff Take your face/mouth vertices in basis and merge 2/3 vertices or even better: remove double
desert stratus
you can also commission anything that definitely requires a large amount of technical skill. normal kitbashing imo is not worth much, but weightpainting and rigging def is
fringe glade
^
faint skiff
@fringe glade Oddly enough, none of that breaks it. Even deleting random ones doens't. No idea why it's suddenly so resilient.
fringe glade
so if you merge 2/3 vertices of the mouth - that get moved by the shapekeys - it don't break it ? Hmm, should tho D:
faint skiff
Nope, still works despite the fact that it clearly shouldn't lol
fringe glade
tf
faint skiff
Basically the issue I was trying to recreate was, after removing an ear in the past, trying to use one of the shape keys would cause the entire model to explode.
fringe glade
yush i see exactly what we're talking about
proper ice
dfhdfgfdgdfh{
faint skiff
Yet even in this state, only the polys I'd expect to move, move, lol
(despite the fact they are now in the wrong place, but that's to be expected)
Ah well, its taking too long for a joke now, I'll leave it.
fringe glade
@faint skiff "in your case changing the number of vertices, will have broken all of the shape keys with no way but to remake them."
idk ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
faint skiff
@fringe glade Yeah, looking at them funny in the past would break them. Now I can delete half the face with no issue, it's crazy.
pallid chasm
Hottokeeki Here~!
sterile warren
vocal shard
yo
uneven plank
Hi
shrewd urchin
Yoooo
uneven plank
Hru
shrewd urchin
Doing pretty good! ๐ How are ya doing?
woeful plume
feeling drained for some reason
uneven plank
I am good just playing games vr chat right now
shrewd urchin
Drained? o:
woeful plume
i guess, body is like, "are we engaged in living reality right now? why?" like, not sick or tired, but like.... LIKe I NEED AN APPLE!
apple can fix this, once they're cold enuf
ok running vrchat without my quest was a mistake lol
uneven plank
Oh ok
shrewd urchin
APPLES.
shrewd urchin
I am not sure, improvements possibly?
woeful plume
I wonder how much my pc would hate me if i tried to stream to my tv through xbox AND log into steamVRgames from my Quest at the same time....
shrewd urchin
It might hate you o:
woeful plume
its a 2012 baby, it may just give up on life.
ooh, a new need! a way to connect my bluetooth keyboard to my quest.
oh they added a way just last month, spiffy
chilly token
Thats gonna kill your pc mate
woeful plume
it will indeed, luckily all i wanted was a keyboard lol
all that reading and no ones telling me how tho
chilly token
might be because of time difference?
Is it just me i just notice your pic and my pic looks like they looking at each other
woeful plume
Haaah! they do!
shrewd urchin
rip pc
chilly token
From my perspective my pic is winking at your pic while your pic looks he about to get laid xd
chilly token
then report it to one of devs the would know what to do mate
woeful plume
ooh indeed!
rancid vessel
Can anyone here confirm if I would get better FPS if i upgrade to an AMD FX 8350?
ruby needle
if you're using VR the FX is the biggest garbage you can have
even without it's the most crappy CPU series ever
rancid vessel
I'll be able to get Ryzen in 4 months from now via a NZXT build machine.. Only way i could do it early without waiting a year..
I know you recommended against prebuilts yesterday @ruby needle but would it really be all that bad if its the only way at the time?
ruby needle
prebuild pc's are just bad price wise
if you bild it your self you can easly safe 100+
which you can invest into a better GPU or so insted
stray temple
Yeah, commission is too high now on day...
rancid vessel
The machine i am looking at has a Nvidia rtx 2060 I believe it was..
Heck right now i am on a AMD RX 460..
ruby needle
if its in 4 months you want to make sure its a ryzen 3rd gen
the rtx2060 is fine at least
rancid vessel
Hopefully NZXT will have a black friday sale and make getting the PC even cheaper.. ๐
vocal shard
Does anyone here have a vr headset? Im thing of getting the oculus quest due to built in tracking and wireless but i wanna know how good the tracking is
Mostly to use on vr chat
stray temple
Direct or though Virtual Desktop? (For someone to answer)
desert stratus
@vocal shard would personally not reccommend oculus quest for primarily VRC use
not cuz of tracking, quest tracking is pretty good
2019 pcvr headets will serve you better, sso long as your PC meets minimim spec
vocal shard
My pc is great @desert stratus and ok ill research it
desert stratus
as long as you have higher than a 4th gen i5 for a cpu and gtx 970 for a gpu you will be fine
if your IPD is between 60-65 id reccommend rift s (u can check IPD with phone app if its supported), else odyssey+ is another good choice for first VR
steel flower
My first one is the rift, still new to useing it. But seams to me to work well.
And hello.
steady kayak
oh god.. please add a reconnect button for that ik thing. it keeps happening.. now even audio on some people will randomly not work.
and its not my connection... a corporate 500mb/s connection
vocal shard
What about the htc vive?
coarse rock
Vive is pretty decent, but controllers are terrible
I'd personally recommend the rift over vive anyday
tranquil cobalt
The Oculus on the other hand never ages because Mark Zuckerberg cut his hand and bled his lizard blood onto every HMD shipped.
desert stratus
how is ur experience? plan on doing that next year so
coarse rock
It's pretty good tbh, I haven't had any controller issues whatsoever, the 2.0 base stations are phenomenal to say the least
The headset, FOV, higher refresh rates (using a 1080ti) are pretty good as well
It's a very noticeable upgrade from the CV1
The controllers fit very well in the hand, although take some time to properly fit to your hand
Ironically enough as well, it took me longer to take everything out of the box than it did to setup the HMD itself
desert stratus
good to know
just more reinforcement rhat jump from cv1 to index is worth it
for me
severe pilot
e... e... e... eto
flat narwhal
i have an og vive and i can confirm the controllers are ass
i wanna save up and get a vive cosmos
meager solstice
Why not the index? @flat narwhal
meager solstice
I mean so far there isnโt much info about the cosmos
faint skiff
Apparently I'm the only one that didn't mind the Vive wands...
And Valve will be opening up global shipping very soon, it's not staying locked to the US and EU.
flat narwhal
thank god
umbral oracle
!!!!
meager solstice
The wands are just very Inconvenient
umbral oracle
I have so many friends eagerly awaiting the end of the region restrictiona
flat narwhal
honestly i may just buy the index knuckles
the vive is good i just hate the wands
im so glad i can use valve's knuckles with the vive
languid beacon
Index is kind of on the pricier side Iโm waiting to see what Cosmos has to offer and at what price
meager solstice
I mean isnโt the vive cosmos just a rift s with another sensory on the headset?
And itโs pretty pricey from what Iโve seen of leaked prices
faint skiff
I don't trust HTC personally and the fact they are being cagey on the specs leads me to believe it won't be anything special, but we'll see....
But I went from the OG Vive to the Index and the difference is amazing, so I'm happy with that.
languid beacon
Well they canโt sell a headset until they spill all the beans so Iโm waiting for the beans to be spilled. No harm in waiting even if itโs nothing worth purchasing. Just in case itโs actually good. I have a CV1 in the mean time anyway.
vocal shard
we just need the FOV. from what we know, it's slightly higher resolution than the index
ruby burrow
ยฃ700 was the leaked price from Argos on the Cosmos.
Same cost as a lighthouse owner getting an Index with the controllers.
Haven't really seen anything that could really justify it yet.
Is looking to be effectively a Rift-S with better audio and potentially better screen.
vocal shard
that seems odd tho, because earlier someone was telling everyone that the price will be close to $900 (close to ยฃ700)
and HTC quickly commented saying that was incorrect and too high
the screen was already confirmed to be 1440x1700 90hz per eye. so it should definitely be better than rift S
ruby burrow
The $ to ยฃ conversion for electronics in the UK is nearly always 1 to 1, rather than going by actual exchange rates.
vocal shard
oh, ok
ruby burrow
A $500 graphics card in the US is ยฃ500 here.
$500 Vive = ยฃ500 Vive, etc.
Kinda sucks.
vocal shard
ruby burrow
I feel like if they dropped ยฃ100 from the price, it might stand a chance of stealing customers from the Rift-S. But as is, is surely going to struggle.
If they were able to get it down to ยฃ500, it could be a major source of temptation for those considering the Rift-S and comparing it. But HTC doens't have the space to sell at low margins like Valve or Oculus does.
vocal shard
they may have shot themselves in the foot though, because they always tried to sell inside out tracking (and even optical outside in) as just for budget, inferior headsets, and that's why you buy a vive with lighthouses. now if they're going to sell a new inside out tracked headset higher price than their OG vive after that.. might be hard
ruby burrow
Mhmm. They kind of setup the market for the Index, and then abandoned it to instead chase Oculus target market, arriving way too late and delivering at a rather uncompetitive price.
I wonder what the future of products like their extra trackers will be.
Whether Valve would ever produce their own, or such.
vocal shard
READY FOR A CAN OF WORMS?! Which VR set do I get
neon flume
virtual boy ๐
rough pulsar
You ask one question, we throw several back at you!
What's your budget? Do you have a lot of floor space? Do you want to add full body tracking on later on? Is your VR PC portable (laptop) and do you travel a lot?
Then there's other more specific things, like how important are things like resolution, colour, FOV, tracking, to you?
neon flume
Don't tease us like this spencer, debating vr headsets might be a can of worms but it's our favourite can of worms
ruby burrow
Get a DK1. It might be a collectors item some day. :v
woeful plume
Speaking of VirtualBoy.... I suddenly wonder if there's a VirtualBoy emulator... =O Not only that but wonder if someone rendered Wario completely in Unreal so you can run it's completely red horror-show in VR!
languid beacon
Are we talking about classic vive vs Rift S? OG Vive has the lowest resolution of any currently-still-sold headset, I don't really recommend it.
Rift S or Valve Index. Depending on budget.
indigo fern
yea i bought an og vive a couple months ago for 300, going from wmr to vive the resolution pissed me off so much
but being able to have much more range for tracking was worth
rough pulsar
Oh shit that reminds me I still need to try using my laptop & WMR in vrchat in a field sometime
ruby burrow
We were talking about Cosmos Adeon.
languid beacon
Oh, i know nothing about Cosmos
rough pulsar
Well I wanna see how far WMR can track. There's some nice big empty fields near my house.
ruby burrow
There's not much known in general yet. So far we have a potential leaked price of ยฃ700 (which would typically translate to $700, with how UK prices on electronics usually work). A screen res 1440x1700 at 90hz. It has the same very good audio pods that the V-Pro or Vive-DAS has.
indigo fern
how far? not sure, there was a video like a year ago where a guy was in a field
ruby burrow
I can't remember if IPD adjustment has been revealed or not.
rough pulsar
Just need a massive VRC world and see how it goes
ruby burrow
Just be careful with the sun on those lenses. Though I'm sure you're not the type to make that basic of a blunder.
rough pulsar
I'd do it on a cloudy day partly for that reason.
ruby burrow
Hopefully it doesn't attempt to track the clouds. : P
snow wadi
@vocal shard sorry for crashing to bed night, it was pretty later on my end. I'll try to make it up to you next session. :<
@rough pulsar Thank you for being patient with this big burb last night when trying to get you in our instance, you're a star! โค
vocal shard
all good ^^
still lark
๐
inner cape
chilly token
Xd
languid compass
hey gamers, do you guys know where i can find a Violet Evergarden Model?
inner cape
on the internet ๐คก
languid compass
well, as an avatar already made lol
inner cape
nowhere then
I have one myself but it's not that great
also dont post the same question across multiple channels
languid compass
cool
inner cape
I cant even send you anything I have rn so you're outta luck here
safe apex
Creeper
dry knoll
Aww man
tulip tide
๐
rocky blaze
its amazing that this game still goes to not responding when you click exit vrchat
like its not crashing am telling you to close
rocky blaze
been doing it since i started play 2018 feb
inner cape
it's been a thing even earlier
rocky blaze
yikes
like even ALT F4ing still makes its "not respond" like boi it means close the program straight away button
inner cape
task manager is our best friend
rocky blaze
yep
tawny ore
I like what they did with windows 10... where if an application is not responding - just keep clicking on the whiteout and windows will be like "You want me to kill that for ya fam?"
inner cape
I got tired of clicking on it, I'd rather just open tm and kill it there
would be nice if I didnt have to do either of those
snow wadi
Actually you just click it once and it already goes "KILL?"
inner cape
not for me
snow wadi
Also henlo all o/
inner cape
yo o7
vocal shard
hey guys
i need help i need to report a seriously bad player whos been ddosing and harassing my friends lately
I cant block him, he has a client that prevents blocking and reporting him too
vestal pier
Long term solution: vpn
Short term: just stop playin or awhile they will get bored and move on
vocal shard
he also has been vpn and ban evading too
you dont understand he's been doing this for the longest time
he doesn't stop
vestal pier
Okay longer term solution make a new account and request your isp to switch your ip
vocal shard
still though how do we report such a threat since he can do this to others
i have prove he did it too with screenshots
~~well the client i mean
inner cape
rigid crescent
you cant just unfriend them?
odd radish
creeper
snow wadi
No.
odd radish
D:
vocal shard
I've played vrchat for a week now. My very first night of playing it was a blast, I met some really cool people who were a lot of fun to hang out with in game. But every day since then, I've only met weirdo's and assholes. That seems to be like 2/3 of all players which makes the game not fun to play. If I'm not getting hit on by some creep (one dude actually thought he was my boyfriend because we hung out for two hours and then got onto me in for not being on vrchat when I said I would and I seemed unfaithful like his ex? crazy af right?!?!) then some dude is being an asshole for absolutely no reason trying to start shit.
I guess the reason why I'm on here bitching is to say that I've deleted vrchat because of how I was treated during the game. Please make the game fun for those who are still playing and actually trying to just hang out and have fun. For a lot of people, it's the only way they get to socialize. What does it hurt to be respectful towards other players? Just saying.
I hope everyone has a fantastic day.
umbral reef
Your far from the only one thinking that Bekah, only tip i can give is try joining a community discord or a group and join there friends+ rooms.
The social bar is leaps higher there and people are overall more mature then. But publics are a big hit or miss yea
inner cape
if you only lasted a week then you're a little thin skinned
tawny ore
Yeah you need some internal resilience to handle VRC
My very first VRC room entrance had a girl in the corner of room of rain fapping.
rigid crescent
You can't just block the person? ๐ค
vocal shard
I work in a bar for a living. I'm plenty thick skinned. I play games to have fun, not deal with shit I deal in the real world too lol. I just thought it would be fun everytime like it was my first time is all.
I've blocked so many people lol
umbral reef
I legit dont get why we always jump on people saying rooms are shit and toxic.
We all know the community in large is toxic as shit. And mic, dont go saying it isnt as evne me who doesnt care about that has to block users just to function in public worlds.
rigid crescent
It's pretty decent for the most part once you find the right people, publics, while not the abysmal pit people make them seem like, is largely "unvetted" socially, if that makes sense
inner cape
well, I have bad news for you
vrc is like that, every day is a hit or miss
umbral reef
And the difference between kids are awake times and not is insane
rigid crescent
That is, the people there aren't there because they're a friend, or a friend of a friend, or even a friend of a friend of a friend, so they're truly just randoms. People tend to be socially-vetted in friends+ rooms, though you can find decent people in publics during the right hours too
vocal shard
I just don't understand why people have to act the way they do. It isn't hard to be nice to others and it isn't hard to not be a huge creep
tawny ore
The natural progression of VRC:
You join public rooms and get a 20% success ratio of fun
You find people that will eventually gravitate towards you or you gravitate towards them via social -> going into public rooms and oftentimes just chatting nonsense with those people
You will then find people who are more inclined towards private rooms and have their social circles
Your social circles connect and thus you become a private room hermit.
umbral reef
Still does not excuse all the behavior happening
rigid crescent
Because it's easier to be a weirdo online, it's like that anywhere, most places just arent as in your face
faint skiff
The 50% white name-plate ratio in the Pug lately seems a bit high. Anyone else seeing that?
umbral reef
@vocal shard Teenagers growing up learning how to communicate to girls from anime and games isnt a great combo. Also toxic behavior does not get punished within this game really.
tawny ore
I would say in VRC - randomness is part of the fun; each dive should be treated as an adventure with the most open mind you can manage
hollow breach
Holy fuck whatโs up with the paragraphs my people
vocal shard
But yeah. lol bitching about it isn't going to solve anything.
hollow breach
Iโm too retarded to read all dis
tawny ore
Original has turned into an underage dad
umbral reef
@tawny ore If i could take you to a 2017 vibe room id show you how thats only half of the story.
tawny ore
You know its depressing when both you and your kid celebrate combined 18th birthday
inner cape
thsts not depressing
that's impossible
hollow breach
Again, Iโm not underaged
faint skiff
@vocal shard I've found it's super, SUPER hit and miss. Some evenings I'll run into a bunch of sociable people. Other times it's just people spazzing around and people in their little tight-knit groups.
hollow breach
Smh
tawny ore
Oclac I'd rather not ๐ I don't want to have a point of reference thats "better" than what I consider a good experience these days
faint skiff
Also the time you're on really matters too.
umbral reef
Compare public worlds to friends+ worlds then (and not the mirror potato's friends+ rooms)
plush cove
openxr is here bois
hollow breach
@inner cape how dare u clown me
umbral reef
@faint skiff GMT+1 1-5AM hours are pure bless
hollow breach
Iโll clown you
vocal shard
@faint skiff Yeah, the cliques were very tight-knit. That I came across anyway.
rigid crescent
Unless I'm just some sort of magical exception though, it's not as hard as people make sound it to get into these "private" groups or circles of friends, all you need to do is be able to hold a conversation and not be overly weird
vocal shard
I've socially awkward lol
rigid crescent
Don't let anyone fool you into thinking it's hard though, just takes talking and joining on the right people
hollow breach
Itโs hard for me to get into groups
vocal shard
I'm**
umbral reef
Mic you know your more social and retard person proof then most in this community
rigid crescent
Well I meet plenty of people like that, but it's still very possible.
lol I'm friends with plenty of people i'd consider socially awkward that are pretty popular amongst their friends though
hollow breach
I once tried to join a group, 5mins later everyone is trying to crash me lmao
rigid crescent
so that's entirely possible as well
faint skiff
@vocal shard Mic is very much an exception to many circumstances and doesn't really reflect what other people see/hear so take that with a pinch of salt...
rigid crescent
and something tells me the people who truly struggle for a long time and never find their "place" are the problem, not all the people in the game
vocal shard
SO people who never find their place in the game because other people are dicks are the actual problem? I can't really make sense of that logic
hollow breach
Fak dats me
rigid crescent
No, because 100% people aren't dicks
vocal shard
I want to live in the world you live in. lol
rigid crescent
if you literally can't ever find a place in this game for yourself, a community you fit in, there's a good, good chance that you're the problem. I don't mean you specifically, just people in general who complain about never having any friends
inner cape
if you dont do anything about it, you'll forever stay that way
gotta throw yourself out there and not let the bad things get to you
rigid crescent
What? A realistic one? lol
hollow breach
Omg I just read ur complaint @vocal shard and honestly, wtf
vocal shard
I have friends....just not video game friends. lol ๐
rigid crescent
100% of people aren't assholes who want to shun you, it's the truth
hollow breach
This is the internet, deal with it
vocal shard
That's what I'm talking about...people are so fucking rude
hollow breach
Not everyone
vocal shard
For absolutely no reason but "bc its the internet. deal with it"
hollow breach
And so what if some people are? Fukin deal with it itโs in every game
Every game has this
rigid crescent
They're telling you to deal with it because nothing you can do will change it
hollow breach
If u canโt handle it, fukin leave
rigid crescent
I mean you can leave, of course that's always an option which is what you seem to have taken
faint skiff
@hollow breach Not really to this extent
hollow breach
Stoopid bot
vocal shard
And I've said that already "bitching about it won't solve anything"
but gawdamn, guess I can't fucking vent either
rigid crescent
Yes, to this extent. VRC isn't an exception. Every game has these people, this type of people, you just don't see as much of them because they're generally in short bursts
30 minute matches, etc
faint skiff
@vocal shard Also second channel related warning, Original was recently temp banned for being argumentative and shit-stirring whenever possible. This channel in general may not be a good place to talk about the game itself, ironically.
rigid crescent
There's a type of funnel on most other online games. Your action is limited to only so many people at a time for an amount of time.
hollow breach
Holy fak
snow wadi
hollow breach
Plz get off the internet
inner cape
shut up original, literally being a lil clown
hollow breach
Make me
rigid crescent
Then why do you reply to him? ๐ค
inner cape
good point
snow wadi
Guys? Take it down a notch maybe?
rigid crescent
When has telling anyone to shut up over the internet ever worked? I promise you cant think of a single time lol
rough pulsar
@vocal shard I both want to agree and disagree.
Most of my friend groups are the long time VRC users, back from 2017 and earlier, and none of them are dicks or creeps. However I also totally understand what you mean, the environment of VRC as a whole has changed a lot over the years I've been on it.
Some for the better, some for the worse.
vocal shard
Yeah
rigid crescent
People just throw this "Oh most people..." thing because of course those are the experiences you remember. I don't just come here saying "Man, I just had 58 great interactions in a row! I LOVE how awesome the VRC community can be!"
chilly token
What did i miss?
brisk bone
I don't know, I don't think projecting your experiences onto others a counterarguement makes it right.
inner cape
we just trying to give hope
hollow breach
Like if u see a toxic bunch, just donโt interact with them, fakin ez
rigid crescent
Fez you dislike communities and friend groups, in the nicest way possible, none of your arguments are very relevant to begin with.
You literally want systems in place to help prevent communities from forming and growing. Just think about that
hollow breach
@brisk bone yes
faint skiff
Mic, it's been argued by so many people that your magical experiences are not what most people experience. Especially as you've been around for so long so the environment you started in was very different.
rigid crescent
The environment I started in is nothing like the one that exists now, nor are the people I talk to.
brisk bone
I'd just want a way to talk normally to people, you constructed it to be that way. I just want to be able to chat about a specific topic easily. I don't really give a fuck if it forms communities or not.
rigid crescent
It's unfortunate you deleted all your arguments, i guess that's why the rule exists, so people cant lie
snow wadi
I'll go make a new vrc world for a while until this blows over >_>;;
rough pulsar
@vocal shard There's something else to consider too though: VRChat isn't a game. Sure it runs on a game engine (unity), and it does have games within it, but VRC itself is definitely no more a game than hanging out with some friends at the park or whatever is.
With that in mind, would you say your expectations of what you can get out of vrchat is any different if you consider it to not be a game, and instead a general social environment?
inner cape
this turning into a personal argument, you know what that means
vocal shard
I guess
rigid crescent
And no, it's been argued by the same....5 or 6 people. Woudl you think the same if every person who had a good experience came in here and talked about it every time it happened like they do when something bad happens?
vocal shard
I said I had a good experience. I started my bitching out with that actually lol
brisk bone
I just don't really understand what you want to achieve, make 5-6 of us more miserable? Like, okay? Just keep it for yourself, man.
covert blade
TL;DR what's up?
hollow breach
@vocal shard wanna install vrchat again and hangout with me : 3
brisk bone
Also someone changing their minds about something after a topic that descended into just pure madness doesn't mean it's a lie either.
inner cape
i was talking about you and fez in particular, mic, not bekahs' argument
hollow breach
Prob get rejected
faint skiff
It's fine. Mic can cure cancer by just telling everyone else that he doesn't have cancer, therefore it clearly doesn't exist.
hollow breach
But offer is there
rigid crescent
I've never once said toxic people don't exist, Ive never once said crashers don't exist, I've never once said there aren't times where people are a huge issue, I've only ever said that these things are blown out of proportion
vestal pier
They are
hollow breach
Blue!!!
rigid crescent
I never say that these things aren't problems, just that there's not as big of an issue as people make them out to be, especially when there's so many people whomanaged and continue to manage jsut find by making friends and forming social circles that are literally massive webs of people who are socially vetted
vestal pier
Vocal minority
hollow breach
Damn arguments about sociality
vocal shard
I only found the dick and creep circles I guess
rigid crescent
Exactly. Go talk to all the people partying together on friday and saturday nights, ask them how many bad experiences they had then. Ask how many new people they met, or people they hadn't seen in a while, anything like that.
hollow breach
Omg queen actually blocked me
brisk bone
Well, again you can never find those people. So that ends that arguement.
vocal shard
Yeah
rigid crescent
"You can never find those people" Why?
brisk bone
They're in the "void", so to speak.
rigid crescent
OK so what's that, explain it to me
inner cape
that solely depends on your social skills I think
rigid crescent
What's this inaccessible place that only the chosen gods seem to be able to reach?
faint skiff
@hollow breach Well maybe if you actually added to a conversation for once rather than being an argumentative child and adding literally nothing. Look back through everything you've said in the last hour and tell me you've said anything of worth.
rigid crescent
Then why reply to him?
brisk bone
Enverex took the bait.
hollow breach
Stoopid bot
vocal shard
I blocked him lol
rigid crescent
There's "void" unless you mean the map, it isn't a thing. People are there, you just have to meet them
hollow breach
I understand ur name now @inner cape
rigid crescent
and to do that you need one, literally ONE friend. It all starts there.
brisk bone
I don't know the people I meet.. Well, I'd rather not meet them.
faint skiff
@brisk bone Where have you been going?
brisk bone
Well, my RNG on this platform has been garbage. I don't really like playing the lottery either. It isn't fun.
rigid crescent
You're a mute TTS person, what do you expect your experience to be like?
brisk bone
Also the constant crashing and DoSsing just makes it worse.
rigid crescent
I meet my share of nice TTS people but that's exceedingly rare
vestal pier
my rng has been super duper good
rigid crescent
Mimi is cool, she's TTS. Revelbot, Metro used to be one and he's in this discord too
covert blade
DDOS -> Use a VPN
Crashers -> Use safety settings
vestal pier
Ultimate option: avoid bad people, its not fucking hard
vocal shard
Bad people don't have bad people name tags or anything lol
covert blade
Not always possible in public worlds but there's workarounds :p Just gotta use 'em
hollow breach
@covert blade yes, but kind of ruins the immersion a bit for the safety
vocal shard
They just kinda come out of nowhere
rigid crescent
How does turning off animations ruin immersion?
vestal pier
Sure, but once you have played for awhile there is a dead giveaway
You can tell the way someone acts, the group they are with the way they talk
faint skiff
@rigid crescent I had at least 4 instances of people trying to interact with me last night alone which made no sense as they were doing something that I couldn't see as I had custom animations off.
hollow breach
Shaders
inner cape
rng in vrchat is giving you good opportunities
its up to you to take them or not
that's why I think it's more on you to find a good experience cause opportunities show up eventually, no matter what
vestal pier
basically social profiling ๐
vocal shard
I've tried. I went to one world that had only 8 people and I thought "yeah, this is a small group of people, I'll start here" and then they started talking shit about how my name was spelled lol. Like really? It's just a name.
faint skiff
Which lead to confusion as other people then commented about what they were doing, but I couldn't see it, etc.
covert blade
@hollow breach Then don't use safety. Matter of fact is, if you don't like being crashed or blinded, turn off animations and shaders. If you don't really care about crashes and rather want to see everything, don't use safety.
vestal pier
I mean how mad could someone actually be at a name, to me that sounds like a joke Bekah.
hollow breach
Oh no I agreed with u mason donโt worry
covert blade
But complaining about these problems and then complaining about the counter to avoid these problems wouldn't make sense
brisk bone
Groups of people always felt like just a brick wall to me ever since they started showing up.
rigid crescent
If you can "struggle" through being slightly inconveniced due to not seeing some guy's floating orb animation, I'm pretty sure making friends is worth it. You don't need overrides to meet people and have a good time
hollow breach
Guys look I apologized, notice this!!!
vestal pier
No
hollow breach
Blue ima join ur world and give u a high five
vestal pier
Clown emoji is the ultimate rebuttal
vocal shard
But I wasn't having a good time unfortunately ๐ฆ
hollow breach
Watch me
rigid crescent
I keep animations off for non-friends mainly because I really don't care for most animations, but I've got hundreds of people shown, lots of friends of friends and whatnot, or strangers that seem cool
brisk bone
IDK I really have no issues with the safety settings other than the colored ranks stuff but I am not starting that topic again.
rigid crescent
But regardless of that I somehow am able to make friends, it isn't even rocket science. Just talk.
vestal pier
and probably dont get upset when someone jokes about your name
rigid crescent
Not talking makes it harder but not impossible
hollow breach
D :
inner cape
talk and be patient
brisk bone
Wait who jokes about their name
hollow breach
If queen seeโs this. Every day someone makes a joke or makes fun of my name. Do I care? No
vestal pier
Bekah mentioned that a group of people started talking shit about the way their name was spelled @brisk bone
I pointed out it was likely a joke, but i was not there so who knows
vocal shard
They weren't joking about it. But it's just a name so it's not like I gave a fuck, but when I was doing my part to try and be social and they were straight up being dicks and not even trying to socialize with me, then yea. Not fun.
brisk bone
I don't know, I probably will just wait and see if there's any social features coming out before I try again.
rigid crescent
ok
brisk bone
I'm just relaxing these days in wonderful worlds anyways, it's comfy.
vestal pier
BlueASS
BlueISIS, bro its 2 ez
inner cape
I always called you blue ass
rigid crescent
I doubt we'll see anything that will magically cure your experience though, or anyoyne's for that matter.
brisk bone
Everyone just refers to me as that video game by that crazy dude. So it's all good.
hollow breach
What an original name
vestal pier
I know and i cry myself to fucking sleep at night @inner cape
brisk bone
I mean, any social feature improvements would be a big help to make the experience better.
faint skiff
I get shit about my accent from Americans all the time. I've just got to the point where in 2 seconds I'll hide them, mute them and then block them. The less I dwell on them, the less time I remember the interaction for. At this point I forgot about them within a few minutes now.
desert stratus
BlueASIS is a good name cuz its easy to make nicknames out of so you dont have to pronounce the entire thing
brisk bone
Like for example knowing what people are interested in, so you can strike up a conversation about it ๐
inner cape
you love it, spanked ass
faint skiff
Makes the whole place feel less toxic
desert stratus
"Blue...as is? as iss? ass ess? ass?"
vestal pier
This is every interaction ever ^^^
hollow breach
2 seconds D :
rigid crescent
Just listen to the conversation? Out of game communities exist. You have the tools available, you jsut choose not ot use them because they're not in the client,.
desert stratus
lol
rigid crescent
A movie discord for people who watch movies. Multiple avatar ones, exercise, all the discords in Community, etc
brisk bone
It just feels like infiltration and it feels uncomfortable, that's all.
vocal shard
It started out really fun for me. It just wasn't anymore. Just be nice to people, its not hard just like socializing isn't hard Mic. That's all I was saying.
vestal pier
Thats because it is infiltration
rigid crescent
It's not "infiltration" though, and this kind of goes to show the problem is with you, not the game...
You're free to feel that way, but it's not the game's fault or the people's fault.
vestal pier
I mean by the definition of infiltration he isnt wrong..
vocal shard
Even here just now, look at how many people got rude with me for no reason. lol How is there fun in that when I get the same thing in vrchat, ya know?
I'm glad other people are able to enjoy it though and I hope they continue to enjoy it
hollow breach
Cause ur argument is kind of dum...
vestal pier
Bekah how long did you play for?
vocal shard
i may be biased but queen has some points too, both sides do
inner cape
week, blue
hollow breach
Oh no I have to go against teri now
vocal shard
can i get some help guys??
A week. First time I played was great. Every day since wasn't fun at all
vocal shard
i did but my question was ignored..
vocal shard
nono, im not gonna go against anyone, thats not what it should be about
hollow breach
I will have war Teri...
brisk bone
Again, maybe I should just sit around in Quest friendly worlds and see how that goes. I may as well try that for a bit.
Got a quest friendly avatar anyways, lol.
vocal shard
then a war you shall get
rigid crescent
Maybe you should just use the tools available to you and create connections using them?
hollow breach
Hehehe, Thanks for not raging on me @vocal shard
rigid crescent
At times I wish I could "power level" people into friendships just to prove a point lol
hollow breach
Most people would be like โomg heโs so toxic he wants warโ
rigid crescent
to show it's not this miracle I somehow perform daily
vocal shard
If you could do that, then you wouldn't need to prove a point
hollow breach
@vocal shard ur kewl
vocal shard
nah, i know its just banter mate
brisk bone
I disagree with the use of tools as I do not like them.
hollow breach
Not everyone else ๐
faint skiff
@brisk bone TTS is a tool ๐
rigid crescent
OK, so you intentionally make your goals harder to achieve because you don't want to join a discord?
or visit one of the many available events?
Simply because they're not something offered within the .exe?
brisk bone
Well, events are not and have not changed much over the years.
rigid crescent
The people who go to them have
brisk bone
Well, I mean everything kinda changed.
rigid crescent
There's always new people, there's always new experiences. You intentionally avoid them and make it harder for yourself because you can't type a tag in to insta-meet people ingame
faint skiff
Events could be an issue depending on Fez's timezone
hollow breach
I mean, meet new people
rigid crescent
It's as easy as joining a discord in the community server or going to an event.
faint skiff
I know the main events are like 5am for me
rigid crescent
THere's events in all timezones. Fewer in some but they exist
brisk bone
I just don't agree with the notion that community servers has to be the main point of enjoying or having a good engagement with others.
That's all. ๐
I mean I understand it's staff policy, but I disagree with it.
rigid crescent
Not using them is simply saying "I don't like this perfectly viable tool to make my goals easier to achieve so I will avoid them."
vocal shard
Even at events there will be the social cliques. So how do you find "your" clique if people don't even try to be social with you when you are with them?
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just trying to understand
rigid crescent
I literally walk up to groups where they're talking about something I understand and join. That's it.
hollow breach
So like is queen coming back to vrc or???
rigid crescent
I talk, talk, and if they're not interested I move on
brisk bone
I guess the best opportunity is still to just watch VRChat streamers for what VRChat is supposed to be as the experience is unattainable through normal means. 
rigid crescent
See it's at this point where he breaks down and starts lying
vocal shard
I guess I'm cooler irl than I am in the video game world lol I don't have these issues irl ๐
rigid crescent
So, what "special means" are these things attainable by? Can you tell me?
hollow breach
@brisk bone vrc streamers? Donโt make me laugh
rigid crescent
Streamers aren't some magical fairies that can't be touched, more often than not they're in friends+. Like everyone else
I mean some do meme stuff in publics or RP but they're admittedly not as common
faint skiff
Streamers in public must be common, I typically see at least one a night, normally more.
brisk bone
I haven't seen streamers in a long time whenever I am around public. But, then again the instances have kinda changed a bit. So it's not too common to see them anymore because of that.
hollow breach
U must know a lot of streamers then
Apparently Iโve been in a room with one but had no idea
Just gotta know them I guess
Oh queen left the server
After all that, I want die
rigid crescent
saying that would sound like im flexing. lots of people are friends, like actual friends not orbiters, with streamers or have mutuaals
hollow breach
Iโm #1 orbiter
vernal forge
Moon is the 1st orbiter of Earth
rigid crescent
all the streams are rp, dance, or socializing withmore emphasis on the latter
faint skiff
I just assume streamers frequent the Pug and Cat often as they're some of the busiest places.
hollow breach
@vernal forge yes
faint skiff
(the ones I run into I mean)
rigid crescent
so to say their experience diffrs is silly
desert stratus
its not the hardest thing in the world to find streamers, just takes a bit of work but can akso be done through sheer luck. this guy who's been trying to get me off my ass and play guitar was like "hey come join this world," didnt know what i was expecting and fucking naddition was there lol
hollow breach
Silly goose
rigid crescent
everyone begins in publics
brisk bone
Hey at least they're able to say whole sentences
hollow breach
naddition? Time to search dis person up
faint skiff
@brisk bone You have to get over this fear of talking though. Using TTS is going to be killing your "interactability"
desert stratus
ill save you troble > vrc streamer who also did some horror games and other vr shit, mainly makes jumpscare avatars from horror games
hollow breach
400k subs on YouTube, noice
rigid crescent
yeah most i meet im unfamilia xwith, i dont watchvrc content unless im in a friends chat
hollow breach
^
desert stratus
watching vrc videos on youtube
vs
watching literally any other contentwwith friends or people in vrc
brisk bone
VRChat video thumbnails are the weirdest things ever. ๐คฃ
desert stratus
movie world is the best fucking world
brisk bone
Like sometimes its just completely unrelated to the video.
faint skiff
I don't know any of the "streamers" I run into, they just start talking about people "in chat" or thanking people for subbing, that sort of thing
brisk bone
So much content, I guess it makes sense.
inner cape
implying only vrc tubers have weird ass thumbnails
desert stratus
one thing that makes me mildly anxious for dumb reasons is a vrc streamer or vtuber recording me
brisk bone
Well, I don't see it that much elsewhere on youtube.
hollow breach
@faint skiff I fukin hate those screamers who talk to their chat with their mic on
*streamers
desert stratus
thats happened once and i was hardly prominent but still, fuck that stop catching me looki ng like a fool on cam /) ~ (\
brisk bone
TBH the only time a streamer approached me I returned to home as quickly as I could cause I was afraid they were using me as content. ๐
faint skiff
@hollow breach It's the only reason I know they're streamers in the first place. That and often they'll be a bit... off, but that's by no means concrete evidence, heh.
inner cape
0-original? thank you for the sub my man, welcome to the crew
brisk bone
That's a long time ago though.
hollow breach
@inner cape I will find u on vrc
desert stratus
doesnt help that i barely know of any streamer other than incredibly popular (+100k sub) ones
inner cape
you gonna have to get that 100ยฃ patreon tier to meet me on vrc, original
rigid crescent
i only know who im friends with, or mutuals with
brisk bone
lol ghosto
faint skiff
@desert stratus Well I mean everyone and their mum thinks they're a streamer these days. It's just not worth acknowledging.
desert stratus
streaming vrc is just weird in general to me tbh
inner cape
I'm a famous steamer
desert stratus
even if you have a fantastic and engaging personality, id rather just be talking to you in game or playing the game if youre just...doing exactly that, playing the game, talking to people, or fucking around in random worlds
brisk bone
I always wondered who watches VRChat streamers
cold talon
wait ghosto is streaming again?
hollow breach
I corrected myself u cuck ; (
cold talon
nah fam, i need my world review steam
desert stratus
usually people with a lot of time on their hands, so really young people
hollow breach
Iโm on phone
cold talon
you haven't finished the series
inner cape
๐ world review ๐
desert stratus
i really dont know tbh. but apparently a good number of people watch streamers, so much so that sometimes they come in here like "oi uve heard of this boi??"
inner cape
thing I have done over a year ago
fringe glade
naddition a cool dude ; i usually join him when i'm bored xd
faint skiff
Or like that Reddit post where someone was complaining that people were "pretending" they hadn't heard of this streamer that had less than 2000 subs, lol
fringe glade
he's one of the OGs ; remember hanging out in the old hub and shit xd
cold talon
not a real streamer if less than 200k subs :5head:
desert stratus
i was like still too socially anxious when i ran into him, got over every barrier except the "popular people are normal" one, freaked out, then joined back on my friend who left me in there and yelled at him lmfao
inner cape
if you have 0 subs, get someone to unsubscribe to get instant 256 subs
vestal pier
i think they fixed that back in 89
hollow breach
@cold talon I have 59 followers, is that good?
fringe glade
ask overwatch about it
desert stratus
naddition is an example of someone who actually makes some VRC content worth making, cuz i cant exactly sit down, make baldy fazbear #31 and start jumpscaring people, cuz first id have to get better at avatars, then get good at scaring people
anyone who uses vrc as the medium for content rather than the content itself tends to be a good vrc tuber or streamer
hollow breach
Watch my streams, I promise u wonโt get bored, maybe
fringe glade
i have strictly no idea about his content tbh he's just a good lad to talk to & laugh lul
desert stratus
if that makes sense..m
hollow breach
@everyone
vestal pier
Absolutely
faint skiff
That's 2000 subs on YouTube I mean, which is really nothing.
desert stratus
heated vrc moments @hollow breach ??
hollow breach
Huh?
desert stratus
nvm lol
hollow breach
Iโm afraid
desert stratus
shit meme
vestal pier
They were implying you said the n word when heated in vrc
desert stratus
based of a shitty meme where someone tried to defend pewdiepie's bridge literature by calling it a "heated gamer moment"
desert stratus
gamer's guide to architecture and traffic infrastructure
vestal pier
How to deal with road rage, a gamers guide
desert stratus
puts 10mil particles with noise scroll emit on my right_wrist
now im going to demonstrate to you what i like to call a pro VRChat move
inner cape
pro vr gamer move
desert stratus
im an honest man ;~;
Look dude i have an unnatural obsession with making high quality shit in anything
desert stratus
hhh leave me alone she's cute
tawny ore
sOHlar happle
desert stratus
fff wehen father tupper preached to the world "combine your meshes" you bet your ass that my mind, body, and soul combined and became one with the holy spirit of optimization
desert stratus
that was the first time i made an avatar >~>`
couldve been worse. before the enlightenment, my friend tried to get me to use that...malware asset
i still have the horriffically scuffed avatar from that nightmare
the very first one on my list
faint skiff
Indeed, it could have been worse.... https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/cl9sbm/help_vrchat_sdk_isnt_letting_me_upload_my_avatar/
desert stratus
ah, i love nightmares in the morning, especially avatars that take up so much room >u>
stoic halo
some cuck put me on a auto crash list lol, boyfriend kept rejoining that instance he was in and crashing immediately
jovial pulsar
If it was in the pug, then no, it was some dude that went around to each instance crashing it
That's why it went from like 400 ppl to 80 all of a sudden
stoic halo
oh wack, i thought it was that kid who screeched about putting me on kos lol
and then crashed me multiple times
jovial pulsar
Just avoid the pug for now, it keeps happening