#vrchat-general-2
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Visitor to new user should not take too long but it's not healthy to guess, just gotta be patient
20-40 hours usually
Its based off of worlds you visit and friends
i have 44 hours, i have about 30 friends and I've visited around 30 worlds
but i get a message in game when im a user tho, right?
and do you have to have your account linked to make the hours count?
I didn't. I just "was" next time I logged in.
it needs to be on a vrchat account
all the hours must be on the vrchat account same with friends. you can merge it.
@hasty fossil if youre using a steam acc and not a vrchat account you cant get past vistor, and you cant upload
You can be trusted on a steam account but you can never upload, steam accounts rank up normally
Wasnt sure since ive heard ppl say they dont
I have one friend who's orange and on a steam account, it's just usually slower due to lack of uploaded content
@covert linden so if I merge the accounts it will count?
@hasty fossil yes
not sure why people say that, legit if you just walk around you'll see steam users at new and higher
then theres the exalted trusted steam users 
after a year finally back in vrchat! Hoping ot meet people again and especially old vrchat friends!
Hello,could someone help me in #avatars-2-general
@timber pulsar please dont call out names here
record prove if you can and submit a moderation report
ok
poop. OBS is not working but I just got called a cowboy sexist f word
and he left
A cowboy sexist f word?
I have a quick question if anyone knows about this, is there any difference when you use trackers with the Rift compared to when you use them with the Vive?
Have a friend who wants to get into FBT but needs to decide on which one to use. I only have the vive with FBT so I don't know if the Rift is worse or not.
Rift has no FBT unless you talk about the kinect 'FBT'
If you have the rift you still need to get the pucks from vive and use the camera's from them to get it functioning
The lighthouses are not a camera 
No, just talking about the trackers with the rift!
Using two lighthouses of course, will it work out just fine?
Yes, that's the normal amount of lighthouses
With lighthouse v2 (i.e. the Index and Vive Pro) you can use up to 4 but that's very much overkill. 2 is the standard that come with the headsets and it's rare that you need more.
The Vive can only use 2 max anyway AFAIK
As long as it's the same between the Rift and the Vive, then that's all we needed to know! She got a Rift but was worried that the trackers might not work as well with them
The same? You need the vive/index Lighthouses additionally to the normal rift sensors for the trackers to work.
A friend of mine has the Rift + Lighthouses + Puck setup. Very expensive way of doing it...
Basically, this is how it is. She's got the rift, she's getting two lighthouses and then three trackers. Will the tracking be different because she's using the rift or will it be the same as a person who's using the vive headset?
beside all the extra oculus stuff like there camera's (and now you cant nitpick it fpaul) it should be the same. they can only use them while using SteamVR though what is a small performance hit
The Rift will still use the Rift cameras to track, the pucks use the lighthouses to track. I'm not sure how you set it all up though.
There are also tutorials for all this in #full-body-tracking if i recall right (check the pins)
Avater the last airbender is coming to netfli
Thanks for the help!
debating whether i should play VRC roulette and see if i can find cool people in public worlds rn....cuz if i get in vr and my right controller actually fucking works i might play like pavlov instead lmfao
there needs to be like, a better system for finding people who just wanna chill and talk about literally anything and aren't in a constant state of "where are the memes"
^ i find that late night sessions in certain game worlds is the best for finding a ton of chill people
really? opposite in my experience
ayee wassupp
weird. might be day for you then since timezones
us east
night time pubs are best pubs
if you stick around long enough youll find some really nice people. it doesnt take me too long to find them
and yes they are
Usually just hang around worlds like never have I ever and hope there's a game going on
you gain some good friends in long maps like the horror maze or games like murder cause it involves cooperation and talking to them, like
Nope
do you mean weapons bound to gestures?
i think he means like.... as an example i saw this guy with a tail which was actually a buttplug, so he could take it out and put it in. I think that's kinda what he means by pulling out a weapon
weird example but thats probably still a gesture thing
@vocal shard on desktop its shift + f keys rshift is the other hand
my bad i didnt see
Anyone know good rooms/games for Quest users? I just saw dark water 2 but it looks like it's PC only.
I'm in slowmode so I'll thank you later but any suggestions are appreciated.
Yo I’m new to vr chat so could someone like teach or like mentor me on how to play?
That’s really it?
yes
just press escape go to the pug or something and talk
you can go to a avatar world and get some avatars as well
Thank you
hey guys, whats going on with fist?
its not oculus- analog fist works in oculus overlay
Good day to all, how are you doing?
i don't use oculus, what's it doing/not doing that it's supposed to do/not do?
its not functioning as an analog gesture as it should
Is anyone else getting amazingly low Ping on VRChat? My ping is hanging out around 20-35
Them server wizards

Cheese Burger.
damn i think i just experience hack
no wonder why people hate public lobby...
i thought it was just one of those super super annoying animation but then all i saw was a picture and i couldn't click anything
More likely just a screenspace shader. Not a hack. You can enable the panic mode hotkey which will disable all animations, so get out of situations like that
Yeah, depends which VR you're using
I believe it's hold both menu buttons and triggers at the same time
And then to disable panic mode, you need to go into the safety menu and turn normal mode back on
i see, well that good to know
It's saved me in a few situations
cuz i have once heard a hack where it put hentai on everybody and gotten streamer banned
Yeah, most of those are screenspace shaders which will render even on top of the hud layer.
Might need to reimport the SDK. Sometimes on a failed import I might get that
is ur unity the correct version
idk what version is that but make sure on the vrchat site that the version
thats the one they said to get
It's the top one
Have fun ^^
@vocal shard help >_>;;;
Doko mitteiru no? Kochi dāyō!
I've had too many Azur Lane influences in one day.
So I noticed
what?
Sorry for bothering, it got sorted now. There was a spammer >_>/
k ^^
Dunno, haven't seen the UD description. 
No-one, yet.

Ah.... Nothing beats coffee in the morning...
I can prove you wrong
You have my attention
!online
I don't know what I expected @inner cape but you still managed to subvert my expectations
glad you liked it
now you can enjoy me in the mornings
or rather the sight of be beating the fuck out of your coffee mug
Perfection.
I'm glad you clarified what aspect I'm meant to enjoy
I was getting worried there for a minute.

were clearly having an appropriate conversation in an appropriate channel btw
totally
Sounds like vrchat alright
hm?
It's highly related. We're chatting albeit VRLess due to platform limitations
Yay it's fuzzout \o/
my name isn't fuzzout
You don't say >_>
;-;
Ghosto <3
it is a Ghosto~ indeed.
Perfection.
hi
Greets.
Hello guys its skye
Hello Skye it's guys
Guys it's hello Skye
butts
Is it because you're airhumping infront of a mirror with FBT?
mmmhmmm
im play vrchat just because im feel lonely
😦
and they just ...
doing lewd thing
on me 😦
What kind of avatar do yo uhave?
No, your VRChat avatar lol
If you have an avatar from Curvy Heaven
Then people are going to try to grope you yeah
Just an example
I have only been playing the game for like 30hrs and i wanna know how to uuuh rank up.
Make friends, make avatars, make worlds, play longer 😃
Or! Join random rooms and be chatty with people (provided they chat back, obviously) - and do your best to not butt into conversations 😛
Oh and don't use a silly avatar like the mushroom or something, I've found people respond better to humanoids and/or anime avatars.
I dunno, the hotdog one actually works kinda well... https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/790860776770057002/725F9873299553701CE01C4A84EDBE26970F3519/
I'll ask again as no-one was available last night: Does anyone here with VR have a second to check a world for me to see what FPS you get?
Perhaps
Anyways is it just me or is it vrchat that just shoots up my CPU process to 100% usage on VR
Previously It doesn't do that
I pretty much never see full usage.
Rarely goes above maybe like 60% for me while playing VRChat
wait i mean vrchat kind of eat cpu so i am more surprise if it doesn't go near 100%
@fair marsh That's odd; my CPU idles at 40% mark usually (Ryzen 5 2600x).
Depending on wether I have a mirror in my field of view - the GPU will go between 50% to 100%
I think VRChat might max out a single core, but not entire CPU, since they don't have great threading set up in the code.
hey yin
I thought they updated to a new Unity version that mitigates that somewhat?
where is yang
I mean if it did, my CPU usuage would be higher, instead of getting low frames with low CPU usage
Also how original >_>
You getting bad framerates? :o
I get some instabilities when I enable all avatars (like the genius that I am, then I sit there and wonder why my GPU's VRAM is 100% full) <-- sitting in a pub with 22 angry nerds spamming animations
In publics I sit around 30fps a lot of the time. GPU isn't maxed out and neither is my CPU.
I always restart my pc if it turn like that
Odd. The lowest I've been is usually 40 (oculus cutting my refresh rate in half and throwing fake frames in there)
I wonder why you're getting 30. I don't even know where to begin the process of elimination!
Sometimes it's a memory leak issue tbh and it takes me awhile to notice. But usually my system isn't sweating too much but I get bad frames.
Yeah, I got my VR headset (and the new system) just before the hottest days in britain... and the heat was intense - the PC didn't sweat - but holy hell I did.
I can't wait for that time when we reach the first milestone in VRChats roadmap (more settings! and better netcode)
Hopefully we will get all that... someday... Development in VRChat is painfully slow
I don’t care that u broke ur elbow
that's pretty mean my guy
i hope i will getting back mine vrglassed from my mom
some day...
I hope my dad comes back
some day...
ya i think VRchat is mostly focus on single core
rip amd user
i would rather be more concern about underusage and having bad framerate than having highusage
I think I remember someone mentioning before it's mostly on a single core but voice was on a seperate core
There are some systems locked a specific core and they cant use more because of how the systems work
The game itself is far from single core
You can legit check that yourself so i legit dont get the rumor
it is not well muti-threaded either
Also modern AMD chips aren't that strangled anymore for single core performance 😃 It's a good thing.
The 3000 series are sold out in my city for now except the 4-core-4-thread ones
But I'm glad they're out. I'll probably upgrade mobo/CPU/RAM this fall/Christmas.
Oclac "because of how the systems work" you mean the computer itself? No...
On a very multithreaded load like video encoding you can max out the cores on any system. But separating tasks into threads takes a lot of work and sometimes there are logistical issues where the threads need to talk to each other and that just slows things down.
virginity it a thing that chu will never getting back if you has lost it
original
and your dad will never came back kevin
D :
I will find the man that took it away from me and DEMAND it to get it back
@heavy dawn Don't think they mentioned the computer itself? 🤔
so u was a women????
ScruffyRuffles: Question marks are for questions. 😃
I did notice the game get a lot smoother after some of the recent updates but I guess that could be a number of things.
I just miss having 90 frames. Rarely see them anymore in any world.
SOON(tm)
VRChat ALMOST fooled me into wanting to upgrade my GPU and then cooler brain cells prevailed and I'll stick to my 1070
Yah might be good to stick with the 1070 until the GPU market cools the fuck down
I just went from a 1060 3gb to a 2060 ^^
Poggers
Mine is moar poggers
@empty bluff Yes and Yes.
Thank you
1060 3gb to 2060 is that a big difference
I have a 1060 6gb and probably going toward xx80 after
The thing is I have a 1080 and the 2060 is the same price as my 1080 was when I got it but the performance difference is... Debatable to say the least
While the 2080 is like twice the price my 1080 was. I thought I was nuts for spending like 600 on a gpu just a few years ago and all of the sudden they're like 1200 bucks
Yeah the GPU pricing is a bit outlandish at the moment... Back when 680's were new; for the price of a modern top-end GPU I could get two 680s and run them in SLI...
I haven't looked into AMD's new GPU performance comparisons yet. Are they comparable to the 2000 series? I bought a 2070 for $700 at Christmas and I looked last week and they sell for slightly more than I paid 🤷
It'd be nice if their new generation is competitive with nVidia. Force some pricing changes.
Like what's happening with Intel.
The 5700XT is actually doing quite well - but wait for AIB versions (coming from ASUS, Sapphire e.t.c.) as they will have better cooling and therefore more OC/power potential
Apparently the new architecture also supports VR a lot better.
@heavy dawn @tawny ore this is an article i was looking at about the new radeon
comparing it to the 2000 series
That article makes a good point. $400. Wow.
Yeah I'm watching the Linus Tech Tips video right now.
Well, I will probably be getting a 5700xt but not the blower version, because those things scream the place up
Heh LTT's XT crashed in a game menu. I guess getting a 3rd party with the more fans setup might be a good idea yeah.
I want Nvidia because shadow play 
I've not used it once :/ I always forget it exists.
@heavy dawn yeah just watched that as well
i mean at that level they r about the same, the only one i dont think it can compare to is the 2080 super
but i havent seen any reviews about it
Just realized multiple GPUs doesn't help VR
shadow play only works with supported games and using it on your entire screen to bypass that eats up some of your PC
I actually think it's making my game unstable
why would u use shadow play at all?
considering the New Nvenc is probably the best way to encode your games now.....
if u have a rtx card
Apparently the new ryzen 9 can stream/record at the highest compression without dropping FPS too much
it's for those who dont record all they do
same with the rtx cards @tawny ore
Yeah but getting one of those RTX cards hurts my soul pricewise...
get a 2060super
That ALSO hurts my soul, just got a 1070 (which is not remotely letting me down)
than why upgrade?
I never said I wanted to upgrade XD
unless ur just talking about price and not getting one
I was talking about video streaming options
oh, rip i kinda overthought what u were saying
😃 Happens
but i think nvidia wins the encoder battle tbh
It not even the encoding for me it is more the play back lol
i think i can officially call myself superior cuz i have a way to play vr chat on a mac
I think you mean - you can call yourself cursed
you dont have any idea how painful it is to game on a mac
u use apple bootcamp?
no
oof.....
you use gforce now
why would u not just apple bootcamp? and get windows 10
Inb4 he's running a USB-to-PCIE 2.0 adapter in which he has plugged in a PCIE to motherboard adapter on which he has plugged in a motherboard, which has a windows, 16gb ram, new GPU and a processor off of which he plays VRChat
You're in for a treat
is apple bootcamp that bad on mac? wasnt aware it was slow?
=/ its painful
anyway im gonna go bury myself until these ppl that work on Gfoce now get back to me
cuz they need to send you a message i think to get a beta version of it
anyway cya
@tawny ore My 980Ti really feels like it's struggling. I'm surprised a 1070 is faring much better.
But 1070s are better for vr arent they
I'm going Vega 56 crossfire, coming from 1080 Ti
I went 1660ti from 1050
oof
price of 1660ti was toooo good to ignore
nVidia cough
they get more and more pricy
not with the 1660ti
That's why I sold my 1080 Ti
1660ti is half the price of the 1070 but almost as good
Will a Vega 56 CF actually be an improvement over the 1080Ti? Especially given how little support dual-cards have these days.
Tempted to sell my Titan Xp for a 2080 Ti
probably not
@faint skiff workstation stuff, shared memory (8+8 technically 16gb bit still 8), Vulkan, DX12, yes
Undervolt and overclock
also Blender, Unity
I'm not a "gamer". I have no use for a single card that can't outperform two cards in workstation things
shared resources between two cards is always better in that case
Im not a fan of the vega series, it just, Iunno not something id ever go for even for my workstation pc
I don't like Navi that came up
My workstation and vr pc is a 2600, 1660ti, 16gb ram (upgrading to 32)
and I want nVidia to have GTX 1680 Ti or something
also I'm going 3700X from 8700K
Intel and their vulnerabilites...I'm done
I wish I waited for the 3000 series but I wont dread on it, since I really couldnt
I'm waiting till October for 3700X to come used
I stopped with intel before I even started because their price for qualitty doesnt match well
I also only use new things not used
I dont want used, I did once and it just lead to chaos
New has a longer lifetime and more reliability,
The only things you need brand new and not used:
HDD
Mobo
PSU
AIO coolers
Waterblocks
but let me tell you, get used PSU with purchase check and possibly warranty
Mobo is a 50/50
I bought RM1000i with all cables and things, 8.5y of warranty remaining with purchase check
and wanna sell it for thermaltake's 1200W RGB PSU
so I can do Orange/Red Ryzen build
@ruby needle I made that mistake
still want to get rid of my brand new H55 and H100i PRO RGB
@dim thorn just dont take off the headset
I'm going custom loop with my new build
I just get new its easier for me, but my bf had a super hard time building my pc.. 4th one hes made but I threw out the manual for the case.. and everything had issues, so were just gonna make an entire new one when the time comes.
But first my pc kept having windows errors and so we reseated the cpu and it fixed it, but it has stutter errors. Its just my luck, ive been trying to get a pc for 6 months now, so of course theres more error, but were going to fix that tonight ive got a basically IT friend
@sullen crown what for?
@dim thorn to stay trapped in vrchat
why I like Intel CPUs:
- Higher clock speed with OC
- LGA socket
- Direct die (no 9th gen)
Why I like AMD CPUs:
- Better solder TIM
- Repairable pins
- Better price to performance
- More cores and threads
- More L3 cache
- No vulnerabilites
- Overclockable on B-chipsets
Intel CPUs cost more than my future
True
No vulnerabilities is wrong tho.
Don't forget the complete lack of ITX boards for AMD most of the time and worse single thread performance.
AMD wasn't free of Spectre.
Meltdown was a intel only thing
Both of which are soft patched on recent gens
without hard disabling HT
Although at performance costs on really old gens
The HT thing is new, like the last few weeks. Not Spectre or Meltdown.
In the end i dont care about exploits that are not a remote access thread
Software can alrleady do all it wants once its on the PC anyway.
This is majorly an issue for VM Isolation
Not for any normal consumer
There your everyday 0815 malware strikes just as bad.
Browser based execution was the only thing that actually was a bit bad while the software patches wherent out yet.
so, canadian person looking to get into VR, which headset should I get? cant get the index without lots of shenanigans, and someone just told me they dont reccomend the vive, any help would be awesome
Rift S would be the thing to get then
Vive Pro or Rift S then
Vive Pro? No 
Why not?
ive not seen many good things said about the rift s
I have seen many good things said about the rift s 
The vive pro is literally not a consumer item
Even from people switching from vive to it 
Vive with knuckles controllers
The Rift S is compared to 3 sensor rift trackign, its got a great display, higher than the vives,
it's also portable and way less of a hasse to set up
But the tracking is worse than the Vive Pro and the VP has the benefit of OLED (while not being horribly low-res OLED like the original Vive). It is very expensive for what it is these days though.
Stop reccomending the vive pro
No
whoops, looking back in my search history, the negatives were for the normal rift
Vive pro is overpriced, most people who get it regret it, Its not a consumer item so its overpriced, literally made for businesses. Index is cheaper and has much more quality than the Vive pro.
it also isnt very durable
"It's not a consumer item" means literally nothing.
And the Index isn't available for months and it's not available in Canada at all.
Yes it does, because it comes with a business package that makes the value increase, thats why its so pricy.
Majority of people who buy the vive pro regret it
If you have the money to shell out for a vive pro you’d be much happier with an index
Really? I've not heard anyone ever say that and I've been looking at a lot of reviews lately.
Or at least wait for the cosmos
Oh fuck off bot
People come here all the time saying theyve regretted it
@ornate garnet They can't get an Index as they are in Canada.
Theres ways around that.
Yikes
The fact the Cosmos is still a black-box makes me suspicious of whether it'll actually be good at all.
cosmos is an inside out headset alike to the S, with 6 cameras
I’m wondering if inside out will break FBT
They should go for the rift S, not waste money on a pro. They can get the index one day when it does release to canada, maybe after all the already pending pre orders. Or a vive if they wanted.
my amd works its just it lags hard of detailed high graphics rooms and if there's too many people causing vrchat to crash
Inside out doesnt break FBT but you need sensors to use FBT
You cant do FBT without lighthouses as far as im aware
❤ thanks for all the advise everyone
just looked it up, and the Rift s will run me $636 after shipping from amazon, so I can get it by months end
Awesome!
Would just like also recommend the Rift S as well ^^
Rift S is the best entry headset IMO (full body vive user here)
eeeww just get rift s from oculus store, its cheaper than rip off amazon. shipping is free on oculus store plus no tax sooo
Canada :
rip off amazon?
They were speaking in the Canadian Dollar Misaki.
its that price regardless for canadians even off the oculus site.
^
Did they fix the tracking issue with Rift S?
Yes
Mostly, as in, as much as you can while using limited "head based" tracking.
plus if u get a oculus headset from oculus store chances are ur gonna get a new vr headset in mail for free when a new one comes out
But it's a definite improvement
Yeah, it's still in a beta branch, but they say the new tracking doesn't even make sense how good it is. Like behind your head, close to the sensors, below the headset. All tracked now
Thats wrong Misaki
Nice! That's good to hear
If I wanted inside out tbh I’d just get a WMR headset for a fraction of the price
they dont mail everyone whos bought a product a new headset.
@dim thorn Er, why would that be a thing?
seen it happen on youtube
yeah, the rift s is the same price on amazon as the oculus store
Rift S have 5 camera compare to WMR only having 2
I have the rift off the oculus site and I didnt get one
which is a big changes
I had the original Rift DK1, where's my free Rift S >_<
I had a WMR headset and barely had tracking loss
I can tell first hand that the rift S is much better than wmr. As good as my 3 sensor rift CV1 in most cases
dunno u have to get their attention somehow
WMR have lot of deadspot
Movement prediction was pretty good as well
I love wmr, but yeah, it's a big improvement
forexample: above your head. behind your back. These spot WMR are blown out
@dim thorn You mean by being a "social media influencer" wherein they use you for advertising? That's not the norm, your typical owner won't be getting a free headset
it happened to some youtubers tho
"youtubers"

r u a big youtuber
Because they make YouTube videos
i wish
Those people are reviewers who will help sell the system based on their reviews and content though
they probably got it for youtubing tbh, they dont give everyone who bought an OG rift a new S because "hey you spent 400$ on our last product!"
They send them new ones so that they can increase sales
used to make videos when i had a ps4
youtuber doesn't even need an OG rift they probably just send them new headset for free regardless
Also Amazon isnt a rip off site. oculus sells off amazon,
Amazon is one of the most trustworthy online stores at this point
That’s the equivalent of a car company giving you a new car because they upgrade each year
"By oculus"
its not a rip off its authentic
for me i would go to best buy to get a oculus quest
best buy is the same as amazon
Or Walmart 😂
what people call a "authentic reseller"
^
Amazon is also rife with counterfeits (which they do almost nothing about) so I wouldn't praise them that heavily.
"by Oculus" means the product is by them. Not that Oculus is selling them.
walmart didn't have any in my state just only the oculus go, but best buy is best place to find all the tech u need
Thought that was the seller, because amazon has different sellers too
My bad, still authentic though
no the item still come from warehouse but still doesn't change a "reseller"
so, just looked it up, and I can get the index controller to work with the rift s with some work
Ive been shopping off amazon for years and have had no issues, BUt im sure others have had them, but being smart when you online shop helps
The Rift S does apparently have abysmal audio quality though. No idea why they made it worse from the CV1.
May I ask if there is a channel for commissioners? I'm looking for one but I don't know if the vrchat discord has a channel for that.
@thin olive youll need to buy lighthouses and the knuckles thats a lot of money.. youre better off waiting for an index release or getting a vive
i don't think this discord has one
Ah okay
@wispy hamlet #community-servers-old VRC traders
^
Is that a server?
Yes
fair enough, thanks @covert linden
@thin olive if you are dead set on hybird you can actually consider WMR like O+ or hp reverb
Okay, I'll look for it on disboard
Theyre canadian btw anyone who reads late
Hmm... do I buy a Rift S while I wait for my Index...
I predict Cosmos is just going to be HTC’s Rift S. Sensorless wired headset around the same price.
did you pre order index?
nah, I was just interested in seeing if it could work
Wait @thin olive iF you cant get the index can you even get the knuckles..?
@vestal sleet Yes, but only a few weeks ago
I reserved an index but I don’t know if I’ll pay for it when it’s my turn
well do u want to live 5-6 months without a vr
Ill just get the rift s, then update when they release the index to canada...in a year maybe I bet
I don't have much faith in cosmos. HTC is being too secretive about it, in a way I don't like. It feels like they're constantly making last minute revisions
Index headset and controllers sadly are not available in Canada at all. ONLY the US and EU.
sadly
They probably will be at some point
@vestal sleet I have a Vive.
The negative reaction to Rift S is why I think HTC is silent about Cosmos
I am getting the index controllers though. Ordered them through my bf in the states and had him mail them to me. Now if only they WERENT STUCK IN CUSTOMS FOR A WEEK >_<
Rift S definitely got lots of hate. Now you have reddit posts from people coming from the Vive pro saying how clear the Rift S is in comparison, and recommending it
Not yet. Soooooon hopefully.
Seeing confirmation that oculus is working on eyetracking is making me consider just waiting instead of jumping for an index
index owner here, it's an unofficial extended beta test for pretty much everything
We should be friends because I also am canadian dating an american
I just met my murican bf a week ago
Oculus and eye tracking is going to be a privacy nightmare
i heard a lot of stuff about the index zzzzz
I am from Eastern Canada
Deepfake my face oculus I don’t care lol
ignore reddit and their analogue stick click wars
Me too I think?
you don't notice it while using it
is ontario eastern
yes
I consider it central personally but I am in the maratimes
and honestly i would still get the index controller
it cant be central its at the bottom
if thye were to ship in canada LUL wtf vrcbot
I've compared myself. It is clearer and noticable 
more ontario peoples?
Yes
Had index controllers since january, 110% recommend them, ignore the whiny fucks going on about the thumbstick click, it's a non-issue.
@alpine crater Why did you say about it being a beta?
mainly just me
I too am in ontario
Vancouver Canada here ^^
Toronto sorta ^-^
a lot of stuff is still figuring out index controls, some have it implemented and some don't
I am in New Brunswick but most people in Canada don't even know about us >_<
some have it implemented but it doesn't quite work properly yet
lol, I know about New Brunswick
like Rec Room would work great with them, but it's not supported yet
@alpine crater Ahh, yeah .
Have met a lot of Canadians in VRChat who don't know anything East of Quebec lol
lol
they appear as Vive wands in rec room and the angle is off and weird to use
I heard Rec Room is a write of anyway these days as it's literally just a screaming playground of children and nothing else.
I heard they added in loot box-like shite and a load of other undesirable crap
rec room would be great if you could report kids using adult accounts and have them bounced back down to kid accounts
i don't know New Brunswick
but until then, it's nothing but kids
i only know PEI (in toronto btw)
oh crap im beside toronto
Seeeeee! Us poor Maritime provinces juts don't exist 😢
I know all of canada but im not educated on it
but the second you use the word maritime im out
hm, now that I have decided on the rift s, time for me to look up 3d printed things for it
mount are great to print
ooh, just saw an extended grip type thing, good for big handed people?
Is getting into 3d printing still expensive as hell?
for some reason big handed people sounds funny
no not really
depends on how much you want to spend on a printer
200-300$ can get u a good printer
Ender 3 Pro is pretty much the lowest end printer you'd likely want to get.
I went big, and got a prusa mk3s, and spent $2000 on it after shipping, but the shipping was almost $200, but yeah, large print size +quality of parts
library have 3d printer for free
not where I live
@vestal sleet The E3D what? That's a brand (who primarily make nozzles and hotends..)
Ender 3
When you finally think you have found the world oyu need for your avatar that you really want, but it doesnt have it
just used the oculus pc check tool, but it doesnt recognise my prossessor, is the 15-9600k good enough?
oh, wait "Intel i5-4590 / AMD Ryzen 5 1500X or greater" Im good
Bruh- Thats legit one of the best if not the best i5 on the market
@vestal sleet E3D isn't related to the Ender 3 😛
Rec room is honestly alright the voice chat is just too young for me.
I feel like hello there fellow kids
That's how I feel in VRChat lately tbh.
Lol
Been playing murder a lot lately in publics. Sooooo many children.
Anyone where a good place top get non weeb avatars from?
thats not something like AI corridors
You shouldn't try to avoid the anime avatars. You will become an neko anime girl eventually. Everyone does.
:(
I tried to play murder for the first time yesterday. Played 3 rounds before I gave up. It was almost all kids, a lot of screaming and the detective just shooting random people (or people standing on tables in the hallway)....
Or the kid with master juts hitting reset everytime he doesnt get detective or murderer.
Opened VRChat, ran upstairs of The Pug and found 3 yellow untextured muscular naked guys with their cocktail sausages out... "Yup, that's enough VRChat for now"
Oh, were those lego men?
I think you may have been in the same instance of the Pug as me
Giant naked yellow men with tiny lego heads. 3 of them.
oh maybe
Quest is going to being in more kids, it’s effectively a console. Just like a vr game having PS4 crossplay brings in the kiddos
They were all pancake warriors
It's all kids on Desktop though. Rarely see anyone in Quest and I've been checking.
I rarely see quest users use voice but when they do it’s a kid :p
I've been trying to find a quest user so they can let me know if my avatar looks OK, but I've not run into any for a while.
I need your guys opinion - how would you feel about VR-Only rooms?
thats the complete opposit of my quest experience so far
That would be nice
I don’t want vr only rooms
Oooh adeon, whats your thought behind it?
Yah. I think we'll see a lot of kids in Quest come xmas time. Right now they're all on Desktop though aside from a few rare few
Platform Shooting itself in the foot. Desktop users being around vr users makes them get headsets
Or, VR users stop playing because they're surrounded by children screaming, open mics and people just spazzing around.
I honestly don't want VR only rooms. But I do wish there was a way to moderate or label instances of worlds. Or maybe a way to restrict instances to 18+ so it's not full of kids.
Enverex has a point - its why i brought the question up
Low barrier to entry = low quality.
The public cancer is why I can't get any of my friends into VRChat at all. They play it for an hour and then wonder wtf is wrong with me for playing it so much.
It's a VR thing I think
Try to convince them 'But theres more to it if you make frinds!' but they're like 'Yah okay..'
I cant put it down either- just because of those 10% scenarios where you find THE group of people
Speaking of, how does one find a group to do things with?
Now-a-days? Know someone who's in a group. Becuase you won't find thme in publics.
But I find that setting up a group doesn't quite yield the hilarity that random pack of nerds does
@thin olive By wandering around for 5 hours at a time, trying to find people that aren't screaming kids or people with mental avatars on desktop, eventually, by sheer luck, finding people that are actually just talking.
I once ran into this group of people and we ended up doing squats and stuff
It was the most hilarious set of squats I've ever done
Could always start your own little group. Post it on the reddit. I joined one back in March and we had some fun times before it fizzled out but I made some friends from it.
Oh and before I ran into the pug, I went into the rain room thing and .... yeah from the moment I loaded, someone put cancerous screen overlay effectively killing my UI and general visibility forcing me to kill the game through oculus tray. Because of course he plays a full length song from someone who doesn't know what rapping or singing means.
Never ever enable shaders, audio, light sources, and custom animations, on anyone but your friends. Pro tip lol.
Even purples?
That's a cursed tip
I disabled animations on all except purples
Just disable custom animations.
I keep shaders and stuff on
Purples are the least trustworthy tbh
Man, pacific rim in 3D looked cool. That was a cool evening in VRChat with a couple of others
The most trust worthy people I find are greens and orange people because they want to rank up. Purples know it takes a lot to derank and don't give a shit.
Well, if I get struck by a stupid animation, I'll probably disable purples animations too
It kinda sucks because people will come up to me and try to use props and stuff on their avatar, but I just seeing them pointing fingers at me. But I've been crashed, ear-raped, and nearly put into epileptic shock way too many times.
Yeah it's not good.
I usually just dance and wiggle around; for some reason all the chibi and short avatars always latch onto me
It's really strange
Lol
xD
I actually tested that out Adeon with someone a few weeks ago. It seemed like the Purple user settings still affected purple users set as Green
Actually I got a question - The void club is meant to play music, right? Or is that something that has to be activated?
I don’t like purples unless for the Commubjty Purple
I think it's broken atm, wait till next VRC update.
Community purple best purple —
Whats a community purple?
@pure hemlock I'm orange lol
I'm green, I imagine people think I'm sketchy
I'm Yellow!
A purple that don’t do stuff like that
I have no idea how people get "Trusted"
They usually themed
People look down at me like I'm an inferior being
I’m veteran user ez clap
Me too
I'm since 2018
But stopped playing for a good while and came back with VR
So, I should just run around in random rooms as a desktop player, hoping to roll the .0000001% chance I find a group of people to interact with?
Yah basically.
A lot of it is creation. Creating worlds and avatars
@thin olive just be unique
I have my own font and I'm mute tye
I veteran user but I never speak
Fml, worse gacha than fatego
Be a chill person and not some meme lord and you'll find chill people eventually
Type* I don't want to brrak my character
It's who I was since the day I started and that's who I will stay as
I'm going to take a plunge into random VRChat rooms in a minute... I've rehydrated and vaped up to full bars
I know people make fun of mirror watchers but I find usually the most chill people in the pug for example are by the mirror
Yin you would make a lot of fun of me. Because I just dance in front of mirrors
@pure hemlock I'm around Japan Shrine (new one is awful) and at the mirror hugging and taking pics with others
Sometimes it's mirror and talk time. Sometimes it's explore time.
Last time I went to japan shrine, everyone spoke japanese
Sometimes I engage in thrusting my finger against some of my friends' female breasts
So where are good public worlds to find an avatar? Because I apparently cant get ones from private worlds atm
and then headpat a lot
I never speak unless they want to know how I am doing something without vr
I have an avatar with huge mechanical extra arms that I use for patting
Simply just a game controller
I can pat across the room
'Engage in thrusting my finger against my friends female breasts'. Lol.
Not your friends male breasts though? Why so sexist
^ it's called paizuri ;)
Breasts is not where the thrusting finger goes
What's the no dude face with a pussy riot hat mean in that new Japan shrine?
@tawny ore hey Japanese love that shite. I have a few Japanese friends who love it so much we talk about in Pres Room (I write)
I actually avoid going there because I'm not sure of the implication and the ones I can think of I don't like.
I am learning japanese but not enough to even remotely comprehend a conversation
ateast go around and ask some with female avatars if you can engage in paizuri with Pres Room Pen or finger :D
Also the new Japan shrine feels like someone set up something that's supposed to look like a shrine in Japan, but it's in Utah.
Learning to go from Entirely incompetent to Mostly incompetent by the time I go to japan for a visit
hopefully it's allowed to do since it's no extremely lewd action and bothersome
If it is such then I'll stop.
So far people have only laughed it out or played along.
paizuri? Is that the game jp kids play where they shove a finger up someone's butt to surprise them?
(yes that's a real thing)
@heavy dawnno, it translated to breast s*x
That reminds me of that gif where someone did it so hard that a dude was launched onto a desk
Ah... hahah
I mean, maybe ask for permission first lol. Touching peoples boobs is not cool imo because some people have phantom sense.
Oh I have phantom sense too
pai from oppai?
It means people in VR, can sort of vaguely feel you touching them
It's weird because my head reacts when people touch parts of the avatar
I did say it
I had a 10 year old people trying to grope my tits and it was the most uncomfortable thing ever
Topic change.
Ghosto b& for lewd
@inner cape I see.... not going to google that later, nope 
🤣
@pure hemlock it does not - hidden as green means you are treated as green
#general-media ya all
how to roll a Rick?
@tawny ore your loss btw
@languid beacon That's odd since when I tried it with some dude in a pug once, he said my avatar features were blocked either way but he had them enable for Greens (Only blocked for purples). Do you need to like re-enter the instance or change avatars maybe?
Right, I'm taking another leap into VRChat, wish me the best of lucks and stuff. All of the lucks... I may return slightly damaged.
@inner cape I forgot to append that with /s
@pure hemlock how do people get Purple? Playtime? Friend amount?
green as in green avatar status? I was thinking username.
GL
@vocal shard read the pin
I dunno Tyglyon. I was purple when they introduced the system. I heard it's a combination of playtime, friends, and avatar/woirlds uploaded. 🤷
I don’t know if changing your rank triggers a reload. But a reload is necessary.
Yeah I have orange status I think and I always forget. I think it's "known"?
^ known user
Changing out of avatar and back would do it for sure
Apparently I am 2 ranks above trusted since they introduced the system but I guess they don't display them in game
It shows in the menu. You can toggle for your UN to show as your rank or just user I think.
I'm stuck as known user and it's known for being inferior to trusted which means most people from America (usually) go like "you're not our type" or something
At least I can.
I believe there’s only one rank above trusted, veteran (displays as trusted by client)
also pin didnt help me find info on the ranks.
Oh really? I have a rank called Legend in my user tags when I look at the API through the website.
That’s news to me
Ah
0: "system_avatar_access"
1: "system_world_access"
2: "system_trust_basic"
3: "system_trust_intermediate"
4: "system_feedback_access"
5: "system_trust_known"
6: "system_trust_trusted"
7: "system_trust_veteran"
8: "system_trust_legend"
9: "show_social_rank"
Those are my ranks
check mine (name is odds)
Wtf there’s legend??!?
:3
How do I know if I’m legend?
legend = veteran
Legend was old veteran before i got rightfully yeet'd
Then what is veteran? It lists veteran and legend separately
veteran is trusted
Then what is trusted
known
Oof so are they user strings offset compared to the variable names? Confusing lol
The api ranks are always one higher then ingame
the ranks are slightly off for whatever reason
old bois discovered this awhile ago
Damn I'm pretty scared on VRChat now
why do you care about ranks
Ranks are a big joke and should only be judged as that
Too true though
Where i can found the Avatar Mitsuha from your name?
Cause, it shows im superior
@pure hemlock if u get a chance try having a look at my tags, you'll get a good laugh :p
no it doesnt
Shhhhhhh
I tried searching your name but the search on the website doesn't work too well
@hollow breach Its easier and more rewarding to flex with a optimized avatar 👀
^
Everyone can get a good rank, not everyone can optimize there shit
@umbral reef *an
Someone out there lagged me out with over-the-poly-limit avatar
In Avatar Testing! room
UwU 
You guys might want to make an ingame limit so it won't allow you to use an avatar above limit
WADU HEK
https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_a4b95e31-ad6f-4033-a316-2f46aa222a16 here a be @pure hemlock
Am I least veteran?
system_trust_legend in the API is Veteran ingame
What's the exploit for crasher avatars? Is it simply overwhelming the thread that processes the game data? Or like, is it overwhelming the network?
system_trust_veteran is Trusted User ingame
Wth Odds lol
:3
I’m afraid to put my info login in there @vocal shard
How?
@heavy dawn depends on the method, generally it's done by just having "too much" of anything.
xD
Such as a billion particles
Or a shader that tessellates into infinity from up close
Or even just sending them the right network data.
GPU overloading you would think would never be able to crash my system but definitely anything CPU or network based would.
@vocal shard
0: "odds"
1: "the odds are in your favor"
2: "ooga booga"
3: "tupper is a cutie"
4: "Kite likes feet"
5: "RedMage is a potato"
6: "evens"
7: "ѕystem_trust_ultra_super_Important_guy"
8: "yui is a cutie"
9: "system"
What is this dark magic
Well if your GPU drivers decide to restart themselves the game is just gonna crash
magic
Not that that's easy to trigger from software
How : o
Generally the game just stops being able to handle it
@vocal shard 👀
Was there an API exploit at some point? Or are you just friendly with soem devs? xD
I assumed that it was just a matter of DOSing something. So yeah that sounds about right.
Its kind of dosing a part of the program or hardware
Tryna find out how to do what Yin is doing right now with the rank thingy
Its just calling the API for account info really
Same that you can see who banned you for example
Just open the Web Inspector, and inspect XHR network traffic when you click on a profile on the website. There will be a call called usr_blah
Not as far as I am aware. I saw a post by the admins saying they said we can call the API's ourselves with our own clients as long as we didn't spam it with requests.
Lol just bad API design. But yah you can look up who has muted you, blocked your avatar, blocked you etc.
Hmm, I'm looking up my avatars. Neat. There's the asset URL.
api is public use, api abuse is punishable
Yeah I never touched API because I am too damn retarded at this point.
UwU
Don't know what's in a VRCA file though. Maybe just a straight up UnityPackage?
@brisk bone im retarded and meant blocked within my msg not banned
Where is XHR?!?!?
You can see who blocked and muted you
Reeeeeeeeeeee
Original: It's one of the protocols you can filter for in the Network tab of the inspector in your browser.
Ohhhhh
I was looking at elements, silly old me
I have veteran!!!!!
Celebration dance here I come
Oh quick question btw, is it possible to report someone that has made u disconnect from a world using a client?
Gotta use the outputlog for that and send it over #moderation-reports
Will it show though?
I know for particles and what not, just idk if they can catch person who dc me, 4 times
I know that in the past some did while some versions did not from what i understood. So worth just sending it
If only we got feedback if the report was effective or if we lacked information, that would be nice
Wish I was recording ; (, dude came up to me and said “bye”, then bam I was gone, feelsbadman
Got back in time before he could kick me again with a sc of his name(won’t share it don’t worry)
It's not really either but it's more a burger. Hotdog is specifically a long sausage in a bun.
A burger is a hamburger. A waffle and a pancake are the same thing.
Adeon can do food topology while staff works on bugs ;D
Pop tarts are ravioli
nigiri sushi is toast
Pop tart RAVIOLI. Hello we att poptart co wanna show you the new Poptart ravioli
Nonskiller: Do you often have whole 2 person conversations with yourself?
....it seems like
That’s uhh, kinda weird
VRC Junk Yard: a level of random 3D scans but decimated enough so it performs okay.
Does anyone know if there is a way to see who joins and leaves your world?
Look in the social tab
Sorry, should have explained properly, want to know who leaves and joins when I'm asleep.
Someone kept waking me up last night...
So go to a private world to sleep
hiii
Yeah I know -_-
I think you can figure it out from the output log, though it's not really the easiest to look through.
Hi salty
hi bully
No
some just record literally everything when they play
it's kinda yucky tho, you never know who might be recording or streaming
Yeah Sidney if you really want to see who has joined or left I think you can check the output log and look for OnPlayerJoined. It'll show whoever joined and what time it happened.
Revording everything when they play?
Who would ever do that.
Yeah who would? ha ha ha 
you're one of them 
You should always record what you do. Let's say you have a casual day
And next thing you know, they pull a gun on you.
I? Uhm, gotta go
*
yikes
You need to record it to report them if you die or whatever
that way the culprit is caught on sight.
yeah, you better run, creepPaul
Just shoot back
Ez
Ye you shoot back by using your camera.
With bullets
It is said the pen is just as strong as the pen; and the camera is as sharp like a gun shooting a bullet.
I have a hard time following you Nonskiller not gonna lie
But it is true; it is an old saying.
you just realized, adeon
The Pen is sharp as the sword
and the Camera is as dynamic as a gun pulling a trigger
Mhm
That's why I got 3 of them
Technically it’s the finger pulling the trigger
What does a finger of a woman feel like
what
I’ll check
It’s soft and warm
oh so it's just the same
as a man
Now.. I need to make these crepes
so VRChat can have Crepes in their game.
They need Crepees.
dat typo... freudian? haha
I printed the recipe..
Now I make the Crepes for VRChat.
We made, Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner, Desert, but we need another Desert Dish
This recipe will make 14 crepes...
I only need to make one.. ;/
Imma have to divide the recipe by 13
and then my measurements can be found
Or just eat the rest
Like a normal human
I just need 1 to 3D scan
So eat the 13 left over
oh wait
Crepes have no substance so I will eat the rest of them
bip bop a new bot entered go and invite friends in server bip
@vocal shard Are you certain you're a bot? I'll have to run you through a Turing test.
I made the crepes.
Imma make the Shrimp Version later tonight
Shrimp with Cheese and sauce Crepe
Make a "Make-Your-Own-Crepe World"
You can make your own crepe and eat it.
Since my morale is back up
I am going to start working on those videos.
CSU = Will break your Morale of Hope/Dreams || You forget that you are about money, and trying to get clients on your own gain. So Now.. I have to think of an alternate route from a Bachelor's Degree since I do not want to pay for Campus Fees. xD
And you also forget you were involved with many things that a College would not teach you lol
I’d say this isn’t the correct channel for this but no one else seems to be using it anyway.
