quartz niche
rip
#vrchat-general-2
coarse anchor
It really should not
If it rahe's it should atleast crashlike 99.9% of any other software
near saffron
Oi!
stoic halo
Does anyone know where i can find the video player that everyone's been using? LIke the one in the room of rain?
clear nacelle
vocal shard
You can't expect to get an answer in 2 minutes also have you tried looking it up in the world tab
gloomy bramble
@stoic halo Is this what you are looking for? https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_edd74699-3fd7-400d-94ff-bf678aba91f4
inland rose
What's your map, I want to sleep in it
slender bane
Srry to bother, I never played vrchat, is the oculus quest a good buy?
vocal shard
Not if you're going to use it just for vrchat
desert stratus
else, its a great buy, unless you already have a VR-ready PC
(basically if u have an OC processor made in the last decade or i5 gen 4+, and a GTX 1060 6gb, you can run most VR titles at good perf)
icy tangle
murder was murdered by bugs but now it has been revived
it wasn't gone exactly but it was 100 percent bonkers broken
queen mango
Oof. How broken, exactly?
near saffron
That’s good to hear. My vrc started crashing on every murder startup countdown a few weeks ago
obtuse matrix
can anybody help me? im stuck as a robot and i cant use any of the settings on the pop-up menu
gloomy bramble
@obtuse matrix If you are on desktop you can switch to the default avatar by pressing Control + \
obtuse matrix
im stuck as the default
vocal shard
Eww
inland rose
It does that when it can't quite log in, try rebooting
obtuse matrix
i already did
vocal shard
Well rip
obtuse matrix
im a idiot i had to open it from steam (i have it on my desktop and it worked fine before)
timid steppe
why, hello there
crimson basin
Hello
old shale
Need help with getting video player to work again. it's not playing the YouTube URL's I have put in for when I load my world.
muted maple
Just listen to soundcloud XD
old shale
that doesn't help with my issues.
muted maple
I have the same issue, nothing works, is a game related issue, use SC or just wait for a fix, I don't think there is anything else to do
austere gulch
Cool. The in-game menu doesn't seem to work for me now. Can't do anything.
drowsy vale
whats so good about skizzo?
floral flaxBOT
┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go
languid beacon
I've been out of date for a while: What are the current rules for public avatar pedistals in community lab worlds?
lost cobalt
@vocal shard congrats🙂 hopefully you get a fun experience out of it 😂
vocal shard
haha thanks 😛
lost cobalt
@vocal shard how much did you pay for it? If I may ask 😂
lost cobalt
@vocal shard ah that's not bad 🙂
vocal shard
Yeah so will be on with a few friends if you see a drunk guy shouting about how dizzy it makes me, that's probably me 😂
lost cobalt
I am just waiting for my VR gear to ship, so I am excited for that 😂
@vocal shard sounds😂
vocal shard
awh hell yeah!*
lost cobalt
@vocal shard I am getting the index, which hopefully ships end this month🙂
vocal shard
oh not bad at all my guy 😄
lost cobalt
Will lets just say I go all in on it 😂
vocal shard
Only way to do it for sure 😛
lost cobalt
Exactly, upgraded pc last weekend to make sure I could run it xD just need the set shipped and maybe buy a new graphics card
vocal shard
ah not too bad, I am just getting into the vr stuff so I would like to use it for others and not just vr chat but its nice to have aswell
lost cobalt
@vocal shard yeah I will totally use mine for other games too lol else it would be kinda dumb 😂
vocal shard
Yeah exactly, but it's nice to be able to wave and do all the mini games on vrchat too 😛
lost cobalt
True😂 anyway, time for me to leave for university😂 I catch you around later dude 🙂
vocal shard
no problem an, enjoy 😃
warm blade
have you heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
broken cobalt
is anyone to add chair on model?
vocal shard
Hello
wintry garnet
how do you get running link pls friend me and tell or dont
desert stratus
running...link?
desert oasis
?
obsidian herald
Does anyone experience "Time Warping" while on VRChat?
vocal shard
No
desert oasis
u want me to ping you
vocal shard
Hell yee
desert oasis
ok
obsidian herald
Time Warp
You see your friend, they see you, they wave their hand in front of your face, you don't see them waving their hand. Or you see a friend just standing in one spot, not moving.
dawn pecan
I see all actions. Delayed by seconds. Not sure if this depends on server load or if there's a constant delay, but I could annoy a moonbase faster
desert oasis
@vocal shard yeah
rough delta
hello
whole saddle
yeet
brisk plover
desert oasis
ye hello
vital rune
I hate it how VRC would just suddenly freeze for like 10 seconds then boot me out of the session
vocal shard
Do you think it's possible to 3D scan a Manga
Like.. if the character's body was seen in 90 positions
indigo fern
Would be kinda tough since different poses and perspective changes all the time
vocal shard
I guess I will have to make General Qi from the Kingdom Manga. He looks like a Clown Lu-Bu and is in fact a Lu-Bu character
twin iron
Anyone know the primary cause of lag and voice cutout in high pops? Even with a threadripper 2950x, 2080ti and 128 gigs of ram I experience extreme lag in places like the pug when there around 20 people.
queen mango
I'd suspect poorly optimized avatars.
twin iron
Possibly, the thing is nobody else seems to be experiencing it unless they’re just not mentioning it. It’s like they just keep going on with their conversation but it’s me who’s losing performance there. Even have a 2gig connection so it’s like wth
queen mango
Hmm.. I believe they have most avatars blocked to begin with.
And yeah, the lower the framerate, the more stutter your audio experiences and the more unresponsive the mic feels.
umbral reef
Could also be networking
How do you use the internet? Cable?
twin iron
It’s a direct connection @umbral reef
The thing is it’ll happen when I try playing a dungeon or game map also. Performance drops to shit. Sometimes unplayable altogether
But my friends with lesser setups seem unaffected so idk
umbral reef
Can be that some background processes take a hit
If it uses the same cores/threads as VRC it could cause problems from what i understand
twin iron
Would think 16cores and 32 threads would be sufficient though @umbral reef
umbral reef
It is- for programs that properly use all cores
And VRC does it alrighty, but some other programs might not
So go check your core performance instead of total performance
twin iron
Yeah I’ll do that today, thanks
umbral reef
And for VRC itself clock speed is fairly important
twin iron
Yeah I mean with this many cores it has lower clock speed but it makes it back up with multitasking capabilities
Any idea how many cores vrc uses by default?
umbral reef
You should know that loads of programs still badly use multitasking so
There is a reason most gaming rigs have intel instead of ryzen as they got better clock speeds overall
And no idea really
twin iron
Okay np,
lapis rain
Can someone help me with some issues I have with fullbodytracking? I'm having it since I got the fbt but I was too lazy to spend time fixing it ;w;
lunar shell
What issues?
twin iron
Or anyone for that matter
I’ve set affinities and priorities yet still get almost no increase in performance ..
vocal shard
is anyone having probelsm loggin to vrc?
swift zodiac
Mine just crashes 30 mins in
brisk umbra
i am off for the night so i don't know
azure shoal
halo
steel notch
hi!
Random dumb question, to be able to upload an own avatar. i just need to play the game and such for while? Or does it want me to spend time in unity? 😛
covert linden
In game
thorn cedar
hey guys
steel notch
yes thank you! 😃
Seems like my password to log into the game isnt correct :S Is there anyway to change that? I have a vrchat.net account
azure shoal
oooh
steel notch
oh i did a dumb.
tried to log in with the name, not the accounts name XD Dont mind me xD
sinful matrix
Anyone can play VRCHAT right now. My VRCHAT is saying Timed out all the time. after loading my account to log in hmmmm?
azure shoal
oh
half vapor
i have the same problem with login
sinful matrix
It is in Desktop mode btw i am trying.
Lets try in VR MODE
Example problem right now anyone can confirm that to? When you starting VRCHAT your account is loading full 100% with the name you logging in after that you getting a complete green/bue screen no tab nothing seeing loading to your homeworld and after a few seconds? A message with VRCHAT timed out?
Desktop mode and VR mode doesnt work
lethal stone
i just cant log in at all, it says "timed out" ^^
languid beacon
If you don’t need dynamic bones, and know how to texture atlas, good rated avatars are so easy.
vocal shard
let them first get their game work properly before all of that xd
sinful matrix
Good to know Rai and Laziza that is not only me.
umbral reef
Might do it yea
covert linden
that should ALWAYS be your first instinct to do whenever you run into an issue
inland rose
If it's the infinite loading thing you might have to delete the cache if restart doesn't work
vocal shard
but even their homepage is loading slow and i heard from friends they also had issues last night with the game and connection and all that
covert linden
always restart the system.
sinful matrix
I already did restart my pc did't work. and waiting for 15 minutes and started it again it still saying after the 100% loading screen from your VRCHAT account name VRCHAT timed out.
covert linden
Then try clearing cache next
If that doesnt work, restart your router, change your DNS, try a vpn, as well as trying whats in #vrchat-support .
inland rose
Theres always connection problems with vrchat though. And yeah clear cache. Is vrchat website challenging you with captchas
sinful matrix
Already done 2 day's ago its not about the cache i guess VRCHAT got some DDOS attack again.
vocal shard
Nah
covert linden
Vrchat did not get DDOS'd again please DONT say things you cant back up.
vocal shard
It’s the network ik
yea sure and next i get another internet provider just to make vrchat work properly or a complete new pc xd
covert linden
no. the steps I said are simple
vocal shard
ty for your help
covert linden
If that doesnt work, restart your router, change your DNS, try a vpn, as well as trying whats in #vrchat-support
The bottom of vrc support says to email, not to get a new pc and isp.
sinful matrix
Already have low cache restarted PC. I am not gonna restart my router for the problem that is not on my side. In the 1.250 hours of VRCHAT this is the first time seeing this!
inland rose
Did vrchats website challenge you with a captcha at one point?
covert linden
its not related to cloudflare
Rias. It can be. sometimes its an ip issue so if you have a dynamic ip, restarting it can help. Issues can come out of nowhere, if you REFUSE to do any problem solving, then have fun with your issue cuz it wont be fixed.
Vrc is weird, and sometimes issues come out of nowhere, but 9 times outta 10 it IS on your side, due to some weird issue, and can be resolved with those measures.
inland rose
You can still get flagged by cloudflare elsewhere independent of vrchat
covert linden
Thats true but ive never seen that be the case
umbral reef
Its fairly clear when that happens tho
inland rose
It's easy to check for that's why I asked them if vrchats website was challenging them
zinc marsh
🤔
inland rose
If it never did you have to do the cache thing, theres a guide in vrchat support
covert linden
they refuse to do problem solving cuz they dont want it fixed appearntly
inland rose
Oh yeah dont forget to reboot the router first
zinc marsh
I don't really think you have to restart a router if like.. several people have the same issue and i assume they're all from different countries.
So it could be a Server issue at the moment. Maybe call Amazon and ask what's going on? 🤔
covert linden
No... trust me
I am a regular here, I help with a lot of support, even if 5 people come in once, it can all be the same issue.
Restarting the router Helps a big wide amount of people, so does changing the DNS. Even if the new networked ik caused it, it can be worked on.
umbral reef
Tl;dr
ISP are shit
DNS servers fail and get bad connections
Cloudfare aint perfect and VRC's servers also aint
zinc marsh
I mean, i am IT Soldier IRL, i don't think it's the Router, due to the fact that i already restarted it like 3 times, soo.. yea.
inland rose
Theres thousands of people here, the expected value of people with connection issues will always be around 8 or so
covert linden
This is normal problem solving that goes on daily, and it works a good 9 times outta 10, and that last 1% contact support and fix it.
Tdlr listen to my user support or dont complain when you wont try to fix your own issue that resolves it for the Majority of people
umbral reef
If your in IT you should know how amazing flushing/restarting a network can be for performance
zinc marsh
It can be wonderful, yea..
covert linden
typical support is / cache / restarting pc / restarting router / changing dns / following whats in #vrchat-support / testing a vpn is possible /
That never fails.
Never fails because the end result if you do all that will link you to contacting support via email
zinc marsh
But to be honest, you shouldn't have to do such things if a game runs normally, right?
umbral reef
But does the game run normal for these peeps?
zinc marsh
The game doesn't run normally at all. 😄
inland rose
Vrchat is not the best piece of software though so you kind of have to be patient with it
zinc marsh
^
covert linden
the support isnt even hard to do, its rather simple, so I dont see why its such a big deal
"I shouldnt have to-" If you can fix it tho, whats the issue?
umbral reef
Feel free to think what you want 🤷
But i done enough support here myself, thrown around loads of bug reports, sadly enough know most bugs and there workarounds and this is purely networking related.
covert linden
thats like, having premade cookie mix and not wanting to simply plop it in the oven cuz 'should bake itself'
umbral reef
The game does boot up fine for these users, they get to the loading screen what happens after all other checks. If they dont even reach that its the game files.
inland rose
But you have to go through the motions before you contact support or theyll just tell you to go through the motions
covert linden
thats why I put it at the end of the list
inland rose
I know what you mean all my other network games run fine, but vrchat is vrchat and you have to put up with it to play
Like the game is free and theres no monetization or anything and it's in early access what can you expect
umbral reef
Being the first doing a specific concept also aint easy
Its a VR game, where users get to do almost anything they want on a extremely large scale.
zinc marsh
Maybe start selling it for money? 🤔
You're able to do more then, i mean it's just my opinion.
covert linden
its not meant to cost money
umbral reef
What can they sell tho? The game? Its extremely unpolished so that would instantly thanos snap the community.
zinc marsh
True!
umbral reef
Also money =/= better, faster, ect development
vocal shard
okay so i clearing cache, i restarted my router, i restarted my pc, i tried changing dns, none of it worked
zinc marsh
Well.. yea.. cause it's not your router lol.
vocal shard
i can do anything else just not vrc xd
covert linden
Wrong Holly. restarting the router solves the issue for a lot of poeple.
zinc marsh
I see.
covert linden
Rai next step would be vpn (if you can) if not, try whats in #vrchat-support
umbral reef
To what did you change your dns if i can ask?
zinc marsh
Who on earth downloads a VPN to just play a game properly? Like.. seriously dude..
vocal shard
imma write a ticket
inland rose
I know lol but vrchat
covert linden
Please dont question the support that actually works a good majority of the time lol
People reccomend using a vpn to play vrchat anyway, so if youre one of those people, you then have one.
inland rose
A vpn works sometimes. The network programming is terrible so changing how your information is routed works sometimes
umbral reef
Also you should not cycle reboot the router. Turning it off means turning it actually off... Letting all the power go out of the internal components and then rebooting it.
inland rose
Where are vrchats servers anyways, I know their office is in California
umbral reef
They use a lot of cloudfare services but also somewhere in the US
zinc marsh
amazon..
inland rose
Based on ping alone it seems it's the lowest when I pick Los Angeles
umbral reef
Can be just an shit VPN host you know
inland rose
But I'm connecting from new Mexico so your mileage may vary
Also if you have century link as your ISP you're going to have problems because they're repairing their network in some places
delicate moon
so i wanted to log in vrchat and just get constant time outs anyone else having it ?
civic rover
hey umm I got a problem
when im playing vrchat I cant hear anything like no sound at all
was wondering if anyone here knew how to fix it
and I play on pc
vocal shard
Hello, I just have a question for people using VRChat with the Rift S: Does the VRChat window of your PC screen flickers with black lines when you get on passthrough mode? Because for me it does and it's pretty bad for recording videos and when i'm screen sharing to people on discord :/
@everyone i learned backflip today
I think yeah, it does that whenever the headset isn't displaying the game. It also does that with some other headsets like the original rift if you just take it off and the proximity sensor turns the display off
covert linden
jamie dude just @ everyone here and in public
vocal shard
Nice wolfy. Still, probably not worth trying to notify 80k people.
Rea, I can see that 
languid beacon
Vrchat is not a normal kind of game. These type of problems are very common in the other VR/player made content games.
Vrchat isn’t doing anything particularly wrong
vocal shard
Ok, so it's only Unity I guess. Thank you!
languid beacon
Not unity so much as problems coming from games with content you don’t control
There are always issues with lag, resource hogging, crashing, and cache issues. It’s kind of unavoidable for the kind of game vrchat is
Gotta roll with it it just comes with the creative freedom
proven blaze
wats this
sinful matrix
Do you know what people that did say about VPN, our reset ROUTER focking dammit. I just got in VRCHAT with out doing anything after the timed out for a while! Screw this it was VRCHAT itself!
proven blaze
wtf
covert linden
"help I want to be able to play vrchat"
Heres some fixe-
"NO. I dont wanna fix it!"
Just cuz things work over time doesnt change the fact that.... sigh
vocal shard
I was thinking of a system if it's possible that when the game have the value of the headset "is showing the blacks screen bc not using it" returned (if not private and if it actually exist) then it would freeze the camera or take some kind of screen shot and displayed it on screen
heavy dawn
Those are all words but it still doesn't make sense. 🙃
covert linden
Im trying so hard to understand that
vocal shard
Sorry. What I mean is that it should be a functon that detect when the screen is active or not and then showing a single picture instead of rendering on the pc so there is no flickering
heavy dawn
So... instead of turning off you want the HMD to display the last thing you saw?
Oh...
vocal shard
no only on the monitor of the pc
covert linden
I think it Has to render on two screens, theres some reason behind that
heavy dawn
Yeah you could totally make a flicker filter but that'd have to be part of the software for your display.
covert linden
it doesnt flicker if you have a decent system
heavy dawn
Or part of the plugin for OBS I guess.
covert linden
woah where did obs come in now im confused
heavy dawn
Yeah I don't have any problem on the display mirror for my Vive/PC setup.
Like if you're recording the display mirror and that's why you care about flicker.
vocal shard
No, what I mean is like when I don't use the headset or when I switch to passthrough mode on the rift s (for example) some black lines appear and are flashing very fast
tidal parcel
Sometimes it’s just hard to understand things
vocal shard
a video could help to understand but I don't think videos are allowed on this chat
tidal parcel
No I don’t think so
heavy dawn
damien-max: You can post videos to #vrchat-videos
As long as it's VRC related I think it's fine.
I don't know what passthrough mode does / looks like so maybe someone else with a Rift S could comment. My guess would be it can't keep up.
near sky
Grainy video overlay of the real world through the headset -on the Quest the size/scale of the world is a little less accurate to life, the Rift S a little more. It's that real-world video you see through the headset. This video comes up when you step outside of the area you've defined that you want to play inside, so that you know what you're doing, and what's going on around you. - It's a peek into the real world through the headset. The video quality is black a white, a little grainy, but perfectly workable to walk around, navigate yourself. pick things up, etc.
covert linden
passthrough is like, you can see your room ie what the cams see
heavy dawn
Oh!
Yeah you can do that on Vive too. You can set your chaperone bounds to show an outline of objects through the camera.
Also you can see the camera display attached to one of your vive controllers if you want. I use that to see my cats.
near sky
Yep -this variation just has the 3D depth, and much more to show because of the cameras all over the unit used for tracking -the principle is the same 
heavy dawn
That's pretty cool actually.
I wondered why the original Vive didn't just use 2 cheap cameras in stereo at least. I guess the Pro had that.
near sky
automatically kicks in when you leave your bounds, shows you where your bounds are in the world so you can return to them, or use the passthrough system to set up your bounds by drawing them and watching what you're drawing in-headset
vocal shard
I love how on the quest if you lean towards the guardian boundary a hole appears in the grid showing the real world in grainy 3D through it
near sky
^^
storm stag
Duno why It lags so much whenever I go to the VRchat upload windows.
It wasn't like this before.
vocal shard
yeah what mute said
twin iron
Is there a way to use the Kinect with driver4vr with just oculus without using steam?
storm stag
My Unity freezes and I can't upload.
heavy dawn
I think the VRChat API must be pinging the API servers constantly or something. Or blocking waiting for responses. Those windows were always a little slow for me.
languid beacon
@twin iron non-oculus devices are only supported via SteamVR. The Oculus home version supports oculus hardware only.
twin iron
Okay, well maybe when the oculus vrchat website account merge option is available I can just port over and use steam instead .. thank you
languid beacon
Yeah sadly that merge doesn’t exist yet. Unfourtunate for people who chose a oculus account when starting out
Hope it comes soon
twin iron
Ikr I wish I would have known lol
ruby needle
Hopefully
languid beacon
Quest users in particular really need the ability to upload their own avatars
twin iron
Yup agreed
still lark
I thought that merge existed
covert linden
Nope
vocal shard
You can merge steam accounts. But Oculus account merging isn't out yet
still lark
It says right here I can do Oculus, or is it not built into the client?
ruby needle
@still lark not in the client yet
still lark
Ah okay. :(
loud hatch
Oof
elfin forge
wtf is going on why is the connection dying
literally wasted all my fullbody battery
and ibwas fine just this mornin too
misty turret
So what is the deal with video players, they have gone from working mostly, to semi working, to not working at all and sometimes crashing everyone in a whole map. Are these being looked at?
elfin forge
thats a funny joke zakka, as if they fix important stuff
misty turret
It's pretty bad honestly when features start crashing users more then users with crash avatars.
weak hearth
Video players have been broken forever. The ones you see in worlds are absolute messes of spaghetti triggers to get them in a semi-working state.
inland rose
Its research grade early access software its going to have a lot of problems
elfin forge
nooo thats not important, but those damn dynamic bones? ooo they must be stopped
weak hearth
Right now the problem you're likely seeing is that some videos play, but others don't, or it plays for some people but not others, yes?
There's a problem where the url it tries to play returns a 403 HTTP code from google for some players. Not really something VRC can fix. maybe the youtube-dl.exe guys'll find a way around it.
elfin forge
how many times have i seen that as an awnser sayuri
weak hearth
The URL shows up in access logs. Like googlecontent something or other. If you load that in the browser sometimes you're blocked. :/
misty turret
Eremite they have stopped work completely for me, but still lag slightly when changing videos and seems like if you important a URL it can crash everyone who didn't put the URL in it's weeeird.
umbral reef
I'd say blame YouTube ddl
Those guys change there stuff so often without proper announcements and brick it constantly
weak hearth
Yeah, I had problems with playing skipping forward in videos crashing VR users. That's not a youtube-dl problem. that's a VRChat problem.
misty turret
Would be nice to have other ways to stream music then other then YouTube or out right uploading them to the map.
umbral reef
And as vrc relies on that. They can't do a. Lot beside update it. And they only update it sperately if it's bad enough and far from an update
weak hearth
The youtube-dl guys don't change anything unless it's in response to a video host changing things. There's a static version of the binary included in VRC. the last time it broke was when google changed YouTube's code and the youtube-dl guys had to update it to be able to find the video properly.
The IK/Quest update broke some stuff with syncing on the Video Player. Along with practically everything else. -_-
umbral reef
Hasn't syncing been bad always?
tidal parcel
Hello people
weak hearth
For video players, yes. But I'm talking about like flat broken; like RPCs sent to the video player only effect the owner of the player. (EG: Hit pause and it only pauses for the person who entered the URL, keeps playign for everyone else)
misty turret
Not this bad, honestly vrchat was looking semibgood before the quest release update but that's my opinion
tidal parcel
And I respect your opinion
weak hearth
That is the opinion of pretty much everyone. Quest update has wrecked the place.
rigid crescent
They don't get video players to begin with do they?
weak hearth
No. Video players will destroy a quest world.
or at least the sync doesn't work at all on it.
wet jackal
Considering that most public world avatars arent quest supported,
Quest users gotta be quite bored not being able to see 90% of the avatars in a world,
Met 2 quest users once and they where complaining about it lol
weak hearth
yeah, I've yet to see many quest users, but that seems to be the consensus among the posts I've seen.
wet jackal
Me and some friends have been hunting for quest users xD but they are sooooo rare
Well I met these 2 in the box world
weak hearth
you'd think there would be more considering the game was crippled for them. Kappa
vocal shard
You’d think
weak hearth
I'm just being salty because a lot of crap I care about is broken. -_-
wet jackal
Saw this twitter post of how avatars look like for people with quest and those on PC/VR.
It looks horrible for them, how cheap is quest tho?
rigid crescent
Quest avatars look as good as creators make them
wet jackal
True
But these avatars that the poster showed wasnt bad tbh
Just quest lowering the quality and all,
Altho I should not say much cuz' I dont know much about it as im a vive user
vocal shard
Making a quest avatar takes more work. Sometimes you need to make compromises to get say.. a 40k avatar to 7.5k.
For example, you can decimate the head a lot which usually takes up a lot of polys. Doing this would ruin your blendshapes. So something I might do for example in that case is put sun glasses on the avatar. Then you can decimate the head and loose the eye blend shapes, but it doesn't look bad
umbral reef
Just remove the head 😏
Ezpz fix
misty turret
It's just limition that PC version doesn't need nor want. But PC users need to learn. To optimize for PC before trying to fix it so quest can see them.
vocal shard
Lol
I like the spark of creativity some avatar creators are doing to stay within the limits
rough pulsar
Going from 40k to 7k you'd have a much better time retopologizing than decimating.
Hell, decimation in general is given way too much credit for what it does, which is generally make a mess if you don't know how to control it, and even that only goes so far.
languid beacon
Un-subdivide can lower head polys without destroying blend shapes
If you are made of quads anyway. If not you can always try “tris to quads” first but it’s fuzzy logic
rough pulsar
Which also makes a mess, the whole automatic tris->quads + unsubdivide
There's no magic one-button 40k->7k solution
misty turret
Not sure anyone is saying it is impossible to make a good looking avatar to work with quest, but it takes more skill and know how then a PC one and again PC people barely know how to optimize for PC and your asking them to optimize for quest is liking asking to to rain diamonds .
weak hearth
I think the complaint is less about difficulty of optimizing for quest than the general broken state of a lot of stuff after the quest update. Hoping that time will fix it, but it's very frustrating at the moment.
rough pulsar
Most of the complaints I've heard about the Quest build is the restrictions for running on it. It's like people forget it's basically a phone with a fan stuck on it.
I mean hell, the latest Samsung galaxy S-whatever is more powerful than the Quest.
weak hearth
yeah, I'm surprised it actually runs as well as it does on Quest considering the hardware.
I've only ever tried PC version though.
vocal shard
Just hook it up to a car battery
weak hearth
I assume you can charge while playing.
umbral reef
It will lockout the charging when it gets too hot so....
And I'd say play any games on ya phone without a case when it's cold
Goes aye owkay
Then do the same when it's humid and hot
languid beacon
I got a source of 260K down to 70K for VRC, then later 32K for excellent and down to 6.5K so far for quest. If you want to do something badly enough, you can do it.
rough pulsar
It's all about the user's skill level and how much they're willing to compromise based on that.
I could make my avatar quest compatible and in the excellent perf category.
I won't because I don't give a shit about the Quest and it'd be a waste of my time.
languid beacon
I knew nothing about blender or unity last May when I got my Rift 😃
weak hearth
I'm holding off on making Quest content till the PC version is back to normal.
misty turret
Or at least till they start focusing on fixing PC issues.
loud hatch
Oop
rigid crescent
Yeah as selfish as it sounds, it doesn't benefit me whatsoever to go through all the trouble of making a quest version of my avatar so a few dozen strangers can maybe see it
languid beacon
Yeah that’s a personal choice. Me I’m vain I want everyone to see me.
Also I do plan on getting a quest eventually
vocal shard
Only quest avatar I’m making is a png on a flat plane that just says it’s not too late to repent and get pcvr
weak hearth
I suspect Quest will serve as a gateway to "real" VR for a lot of users.
languid beacon
I will have both so :p
I honestly think Pc-less vr is the future. The on board hardware is just too weak right now. But long term? We’re going to lose the tether.
There will always be Pc vr headsets but wireless should be a standard option
vocal shard
It’s gonna stay pcvr for a while though especially when triple A companies are going to be making games from the ground up for vr
inland rose
i invested in full body htc vr already so i have no reason to get a quest but i can see it making it more accessible for a wider audiance
vocal shard
Yeah I’ve dumped way too much money into full body wireless
inland rose
like the quest is weak but its better than new players being stuck on desktop being unable to do anything
meager solstice
I’m surprised the index didn’t get wireless
vocal shard
I wouldn’t expect it to
meager solstice
I mean it would have made sense to
vocal shard
Not the the power requirements for those screens
languid beacon
Actually one of my goals with quest was to stream the SteamVR version to the quest so I can have fully wireless full body
rough pulsar
Same res as the vive pro, which has wireless. So that's not the limiter. Running at 144hz maybe
vocal shard
That’s what I’m thinking
languid beacon
No interest in vive pro. My PcVr headset will be Index and then optionally quest
rough pulsar
Plus the Index is barely even out, so expecting it to have wireless out of the door is a bit unreasonable in my opinion. Give it time.
near sky
Tried last night; SteamVR -> Quest streaming @ 5GHz. May be because I'm running a meshnet, but it was unworkable. Have to work with that, see what's causing it.
Wired regular HMD makes sense over that until then, and will continue to
Enjoying the portable "this is what VR is on a smaller scale", though.
rough pulsar
Standalone VR is definitely where it's going. It's definitely not there now.
near sky
Entirely agree
languid beacon
I can see oculus abandoning teathered vr next gen and whatever is after Quest will have dedicated PCVR streaming capabilities
rough pulsar
The Quest is basically a proof-of-concept
vocal shard
Let’s hope they pick better hardware next gen
near sky
Oculus forced Virtual Desktop on the Quest to remove the SteamVR streaming feature; that's recent
umbral reef
Want the go that already
languid beacon
The only reason I can think that they would do that is they plan to do it themselves
near sky
Mh; would only be unnecessary then. What, removing competition on your own hardware? - Surely with your lower level access you as the company would be in no contest.
rough pulsar
I just hope others dive into the field and force some competition. Facebook are one of the worst possible companies to have any kind of dominance in the VR space.
languid beacon
Agree, though until they have competition I’m going to support them supporting VR
vocal shard
That’s the boomers life source
languid beacon
My hate for Facebook is not greater than my desire to see Vr go mainstream by any means necessary, even via Facebook
umbral reef
I jumped that boat
vocal shard
I’m fine with that
near sky
Vr Shouldn’t go Mainstream Why would that be?
Might have some reasoning behind it; not a callout question.
I'd think it'd naturally be best to scale up demand, and attention on the industry
Naturally; more money and eyes on the content
Experimental titles continue to be produced, AAA standards would gradually be developed
near sky
Would be best to be out experiencing, probing for titles so that you know
It's definitely early days so on a level; fair enough
Industry still figuring out what works, what doesn't, what's fun, what's comfortable, how to tell stories, direct attention, etc
languid beacon
Saying you don’t want vr to go mainstream is like saying you wish videogames weren’t mainstream. Do you WANT there to be nothing to play?
Everything made for VR right now is indie at best
near sky
VR Hipster-Mindset?
vocal shard
There’s always one
rigid crescent
Again, the bait 🎣
vocal shard
It’s fun to reel them in tho
vast tulip
I wouldn't always call something you don't agree with bait or trolling :p
It might be a dumb opinion but I don't think it's trolling ;P
vocal shard
Go sip your zero calorie monster boomer 🗿
near sky
That's how it works
rigid crescent
When it's their modus operandi I do
near sky
Everyone knows WW2 Germany had harsh stances on the future of VR technology
kind wedge
near sky
misty turret
Still waiting for a half way decent mmo VR idea lol
desert stratus
TERA VR pls
kind wedge
The amount of boundary testing I see in these channels irks me sometimes.
kind wedge
I'd best advise you all behave yourselves whether you think we're here or not.
desert stratus
wwwait oh shit were not in #general-media
near sky
VRC Discord is sanitized; makes things stand out all the more
Makes sense to be, not the place for some things.
misty turret
@cold saddle they have one but the graphics and over all look isn't what K was hoping for lol
near sky
The sheer development cost of AAA MMOs + unrealistic faith in early VR to expect from a AAA developer; that's what it would take to get something grand as existing MMOs
quick kayak
Is this person referring to the limitations of the Quest and how that "will affect high end vr headsets"?
near sky
Talking about the concept of a VR mmo as far as I know
quick kayak
No no, I meant the other one, Honigball.
near sky
Depends on what he was saying when
quick kayak
MMOs in itself require a high budget to create something that looks good, plays good and has enough content to suffice and sustain an audience, this is on PC gaming, so it's going to be a while before we get something that's truly great in terms of a MMO in VR, at least imo.
I didn't read much up in the conversation, but the talk about "quality this and quality that".
End of the day, it's not about the hardware, it's more about how the developers take that hardware and build around the limitations and create new low cost ways of producing high quality things.
warm mortar
🖌
heavy dawn
Quest avatar poly limit: @w@
Also: oh... some of my hand made avatars are that low anyway.
vocal shard
Just optimize
heavy dawn
I'm saying when I model stuff meyself it tends to come out optimized due to the way I make it.
covert linden
Im not plannig to optimize mwaha
vocal shard
Good
rigid crescent
Same tbh, I have avatars for public rooms anyway
Ones that are
I just use my short haired pants suit one for publics. No DB, like 4 mats I think
true sky
i just make pc only avatars as i cannot test with a quest and plan to never port to quest unless they come out with better performance than a pc downgrade.
everytime i decrease the poly limit, the avatar looks like a mess for me
vocal shard
You’re probably not doing it correctly then
vocal shard
You can have 7.5k
rigid crescent
Just enough to fit my ring in
vocal shard
Mic's quest avatar. Just a ring
true sky
yeah, but i still dont think i will do quest content since it has to be 1 material or its poor performance
rigid crescent
Lol my SDK is so old I can't even upload one
vocal shard
I use one material and use emissions maps so parts can still glow
true sky
that isnt a problem to atlas to 1, but its hard to make some parts cutout and some transparent (if the part of the avatar is suppose to be transparent)
languid beacon
What are the rules for avatar pedestals in non-avatar worlds submitted to Lab?
rigid crescent
There aren't any are there?
inland rose
im stuck until someone makes a quest compatible full body nanachi that doesn't have toothpick legs
languid beacon
Are you sure? That’s why I’m asking
rigid crescent
Worlds are just the wild west now
true sky
^
vocal shard
^
true sky
even though some are still in labs and havent gotten out of labs since day 1
usually they are a box and a mirror
rigid crescent
"usually" solid statistics but no dice lol
inland rose
i still log into non-lab worlds that are just a box and a default on mirror that somehow drops you to 5FPS even with nothing going on
true sky
@inland rose there is probably something going on in the map
inland rose
yeah i mean there HAS to be something going on but its functionally identical to the box
but with low frame rate
rigid crescent
Visually yes.
true sky
i just report it as malicious to moderation@vrchat.com with the world ID
rigid crescent
Functionally no
true sky
if its doing something meant to cause you to crash
languid beacon
You can have unchanging lighting that isn’t baked and is real-time for some reason
true sky
^
i think its peoples 1st worlds and i wont lie that i use to use realtime until another map creator told me to bake them and have baked since then
languid beacon
Also the box has a grid wall which shows up even the smallest async projection so it FEELS laggier
floral quiver
I restarted my internet and its all good. Yet vrchat still keeps kicking me home. What the hell is up with the servers
Cant even do the popout-key and 2 for the log since they removed it. But i cannot play the game now cas it keeps black screening
inland rose
they're doing stuff with stuff (network IK) just be persistent, ive been getting thrown out a lot since 791 too
floral quiver
I doesnt even work at all now. Its unplayable
inland rose
do you have century link as your ISP
vrchat has razor thin timeout windows and century link has been repairing parts of its network so you might even be able to use the internet for other things but get kicked out of vrchat a lot
north rock
I anticipate them adding the 30-second red timeout text from Source games for added nostalgia and connection retention
inland rose
if they increased it to 30 seconds i bet a lot of us would dc a lot less
floral quiver
Century isp???
north rock
Pretty sure 15-30 seconds is pretty standard for most games, but in VRC it feels like anywhere from 1-5 seconds
inland rose
obviously they need to increase the timeout window a lot but who knows when they'll actually do that, so in the meantime just follow all the standard steps
floral quiver
Iv noticed. No other game does it bu VRChat has been doing recently. In discord my ping goes to 1k when its in thr black screen before the error
Only does it in VRChat nothing else
inland rose
its because when you're downloading maps or avatars the code isnt able to properly send out whatever it is that lets vrc know you're still alive
have task manager open and set to show you network activity and you'll notice vrc will be download stuff when its stuck on black. often you can just wait in the darkness and vrc comes back and lets you rejoin itself
heavy dawn
It seems most of VRC is because it's on that 2017 LTS build.
mighty cradle
yeah but
inland rose
i dont know but suspect avatar and map downloads happen in a separate thread doing HTTP
mighty cradle
network comms can be easily assigned multiple threads
well
if it were
it wouldn't be interrupting vrc's keepalive
inland rose
it can
cool said the ping indicator in discord goes up during it
so while its still getting through its barely passing the timeout window
mighty cradle
it shouldn't be doing it
try setting discord to a higher priority
and tell vrc devs to lower the dl thread prio
inland rose
or just increase the timeout window to 30
mighty cradle
having the dl in that high a prio is still a bad idea
inland rose
it spins up like 5 of them at a time too if you have to download a bunch of avatars
thats why i said to be persistent, if you keep trying to join the same instance or a friend or whatnot itll go away
im waiting until they finish working on networked ik before making any posts about it or anything
because you never know if its going to get fixed via side effect
mighty cradle
see
spawning it as another process and threads or however they do it is not a bad idea
but if they're handling it improperly, well...
inland rose
or if the bug is actually server side too
the observation is that it happens while maps or avatars are downloading but we can't know exactly why
mighty cradle
wireshark it cyka blyat
inland rose
thats not going to tell us anything more than what we already know tho
mighty cradle
it's gonna tell you packet frequencies
and with some careful analysis of threads, how the net comms actually work
inland rose
and i think trying to reverse engineer stuff like that is also against the ToS
mighty cradle
the tos is not legally binding, you know
and there are laws that literally bar such a clause from being effective
inland rose
it doesn't have to be? they don't have to provide you service
mighty cradle
in germany, for instance, that kinda tos clause is pretty much void and illegal
which means that, afaict, they would face repercussions for denying you service for trying to make a product work through reverse engineering or so
inland rose
US company though
inland rose
but nothing is going to happen to the US company and this is also getting off topic
mighty cradle
they provide service in germany, so that would affect them
inland rose
@floral quiver keep trying to connect to the same instances, wait when the screen is black for it to come back to let you in, and hiding avatars in safety settings will work as a temporary mitigation. avoid some maps in public like The Pug or even The Box
and sometimes you'll still just d/c but it does go away after a while
floral quiver
Yeah im trying
inland rose
sometimes using a vpn will actually help even though it makes your ping worse, its vrchat
vocal shard
video players down?
When have they not been down recently
Where's a good place to get avatars
inland rose
theres so many maps that cater to different tastes you really will have to hop the Avatar Worlds tab
runic acorn
dim thorn
im in vrchat rn and im kinda lost
rigid crescent
Or make your own :3
dim thorn
i found a infinite stairs room
lone scroll
pls fix avatar tab, when you have to many uploaded avatar shit breaks... very annoying
dim thorn
just went to my home world, too much lag
heavy ledge
is there a way to have vrchat use my hdd cause it's eating up my ssd
slate verge
reinstall it via steam and choose a different harddrive letter
it will ask and you can then just click on the drop down
rough pulsar
They're probably asking about moving the cache location rather than the install, right? @heavy ledge
slate verge
oh
heavy ledge
something like that I heard it was called symbolic link i was looking into that but I dont have very good internet speed and low patience to wait for all my other games to redowload
but either way in the end im most likely having to do a reinstall way which sucks
rough pulsar
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administration/windows-commands/mklink
The command you want is mklink, that page gives you a rough outline of how to use it.
The way to use it is mklink /d new_cache_location current_cache_location
In my case it would be
mklink /d D:\new_vrc_cache\ C:\Users\John\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat
heavy ledge
When you link the cache to the d drive will it store the cache on to the d drive even though it still shows the cache in the c drive but wont fill up there right?
chrome beacon
summer grotto
can someone give me the links to the latest version of unity and other stuff i need to make my own avatar please
summer grotto
?
tacit plank
Are old dynamic bones versions broken?
The dynamic bones gets applied to the entire object, not just the last bone. It's very annoying
I put it on the last bone, then added the parent to the root bone. But the entire mesh itself (3 levels further up) wobbles along
Edit: maybe it's just a shit rig
vocal shard
we've had it for half a year
warm blade
I haven't played vrchat in months
like 3 months
and everyone is like HeY BRo MaY I CLonE youR AvaTar
vocal shard
Don't let them.
tropic scroll
hello
vocal shard
You can turn it off
warm blade
Wasn't the whole purpose of it like for it to be personal? i know you have to enable it but cheesh
i think it turns creativity off for people
but idk just my opinion
vocal shard
Personal avatars are supposed to be the same as before. Just for you. In unity, private avatars can't be cloned. It's mainly just for like avatars you find in worlds
And hello frost ^^
lunar shell
Cloning is nice because you don't always need to gp to avatar worlds. If you're avatar is private, it's not clonable.
warm blade
So, if i upload an avatar from unity no one can clone it even if i enable it?
covert linden
if you set it to private they cant, they can if its set to public
UNlESS the use a forbidden modded client
vocal shard
Yeah. Even if you have cloning turned on in settings. If your avatar is private, they can't
warm blade
so the private thing is done in unity?
i see
so like, if you didn't do anything before the update it private by default right?
vocal shard
Cloning had a benefit for avatar world creators too. Some found more traffic to their worlds if someone cloned a public avatar, and then went to the creator's world to see more
lunar shell
Just tell them it's private and you can't clone it for them.
warm blade
This, so like, if you didn't do anything before the update it private by default right?
vocal shard
Mid 2018 they added the ability to make your avatar private. Public avatars could be put in worlds, and private were saved differently to prevent avatar stealing. Before then, every avatar was public. Then later they added cloning
In unity, on the upload page there is a little check box that says private. By default it's on. So any avatar you uploaded later 2018 and didn't uncheck that, should be private
warm blade
oh ok then
i thought you could clone EVERYTHING
only thing preventing it the option on/off
I think that enables creativity more
vocal shard
Yeah that would be bad
warm blade
Well thanks again Jamie Vatarga
vocal shard
No problem ^^
tropic scroll
hi
flint plaza
VRChat go down by any chance just now?
edgy orbit
I can't get on
lusty drift
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5904 users in VRChat currently
flint plaza
Stuck in a loading after being booted from VRChat not Responding.
Also, my upload buggered out too
edgy orbit
some servers are down on the west coast possibly
just used a vpn to connect to the east coast and I got in instantly
vocal shard
Big yikes
broken plover
In germany the servers work fine. idk where you live but the servers are propably down near you. Try using a vpn and connecting to a different country. I guess the EU servers all work
flint plaza
I'm west coast too.
Guess i can't say west coast best coast >,>
jagged flame
just came to check this was in vr and just tried right now as pancake mode and I was able to get to my homeworld
broken plover
Do you live anywhere near the west coast? If not then the west coast server are really down
jagged flame
washington so yeah
broken plover
rip west coast then
jagged flame
it seems to be fine now
vocal shard
West to east
flint plaza
Just a little server burp i suppose
vocal shard
Sent output log into moderation email for a stupid cuck that hard crashed lobby in Never have I ever. 10:49 pm mountain time 6/13/19
flint plaza
My world uploads take like 15 minutes each, so that was sad to find out XD
sage zenith
Yikes dude
karmic saddle
Was it Dittos? Someone was spawning a ton of em in the lobby I was in.
true sky
i am assuming they are abusing the world prefab exploit
@karmic saddle send outputlogs to vrchat moderation email
karmic saddle
I'm a bit new to the game so can't say I know what that exploit is exactly.
true sky
ill dm you what it is , but the exploit has been present for years and has still not been patched.
karmic saddle
Mkay
vocal shard
quick question, any know avatar worlds with avatars that can write?
vocal shard
they can, i had but it was deleted
mighty cradle
why was it delet
vocal shard
updated model
mighty cradle
oh dam
vocal shard
mhm
mighty cradle
that sucks tho
elfin pilot
hello
mighty cradle
ello
gloomy bramble
@vocal shard The world Mappi's Avatars has at least one avatar that can draw: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_47a4fe1d-111d-42ec-af54-2ff8dc062c52
eager granite
hi
desert oasis
hey
white lichen
!ONLINE
floral flaxBOT
There are 4427 users in VRChat currently
desert oasis
same
white lichen
are u a lizard
desert oasis
r u \
gloomy bronze
Anyone who installed the recent update got any lag issues even tho connection is just fine?
desert oasis
no
queen mango
As in the Network IK having severe latency issues?
gloomy bronze
When I am loading to certain worlds the avatars don't move at all, some worlds work fine but around some things don't work well
I also ran a speedtest.net test and everything is fine
queen mango
I don't really know what causes that. It may be the resuly of the game attempting to load in a lot of things at once.
Still not sure.
vocal shard
hey guys is the infinite loading glitch still a thing?
dim thorn
yeee im in vrchat
slate verge
👌
heavy dawn
Avatar creation height or the settings in the menu?
Like, you can set your height in the menu in VRC and it seems... roughly right.
Sometimes I have to set it slightly shorter than my doctor measured height. 🤷
dim thorn
what's avatar stats?
lone scroll
can we please get a fixed search function?
looking for avatar <creator> returns all worlds that contain avatar AND OR <creator>
dim thorn
trying to make my character smaller
covert linden
you cant do that in vrchat
lone scroll
very stupid design flaw and should have never been there in the first place, dont make an AND OR search, either default to AND , or give us filters
covert linden
You can only resize the avatar when making it in unity
@dim thorn inside of vrchat you CANT resize it. Youd need to make the model in unityy & blender to do so
dim thorn
can um...i get a vrchat tour guide for mah not upgraded graphics card pc?
covert linden
just explore..
dim thorn
i am but its hard to find a smooth vr world
covert linden
Some worlds that may run better, are worlds with less people, some like the bowling alley, Rock & roll diner, and the Madcat
It's a bit complicated because in rooms with many people the avatars may be laggin you too
dim thorn
got into a battle with daffy duck
near sky
Why hello chat; good afternoon
slate verge
the closest smooth world in vrchat is probably the room with the rain
but there are others i'm sure
covert linden
Really? that room gives me laggy vibes
but Ive never played it on a weak system so idk btu the rain and the lighting makesm e question..
karmic saddle
These crusader people are interesting ones.
covert linden
Editing videos is so easy
indigo fern
Wow, flexing your editing skills on us 😔
vocal shard
im a streamer not a regular recorder
plus coppy right is a issue
Game randomly cleared all of my favorite avatars wtf
near saffron
F
karmic saddle
VRChat is a real danger zone for copyright
karmic saddle
I've been trying to find a crusader avatar but I'm starting to think they are a private group.
vocal shard
Star Dust Crusaders
karmic saddle
No the holy knight ones
covert linden
Not really flexing skills because editijg programs take 2 seconds to work with
Making animr mvs like I do isnt easy but cutting and arranging footage is pretty straight forward
fathom swan
karmic saddle
I did find one I can add but the condition its in causes servers to crash.
vocal shard
I was born yesterday and I wish for the sweet cold embrace
dim thorn
im hiding mah blocks in da hub
flint plaza
take a cold bath
dim thorn
bet u can't find mah blocks
vocal shard
when is the new update coming?
umbral reef
Once its ready
dim thorn
what update?
vocal shard
of vrchat malnova
dim thorn
ooohh
vocal shard
When will people stop making crash portals?
dim thorn
optimized for lower graphics card be nice too so it can run smoother
covert linden
Vrchat is all user created so that cant really be easily optimized. Upgrade pc
dense void
if im just getting into vr but dont want to get something thats cheap and useless, what do you guys recc
dim thorn
hm, its my second day of vrchat
dense void
well yes but i dont have like unlimited money lol
dim thorn
oculus quest
dense void
does that work with a pc
warped sphinx
whats your budget?
dense void
prob like $400 tops
dim thorn
loki dm me ima give ya knowledge
dense void
okay
dim thorn
umbral reef
Quest is harshly limithing tho
Its only really worth considering if you have a far from VR ready PC
vocal shard
well quest users can finally play vrchat
dense void
i want something expandable preferably
warped sphinx
can u give me knowledge too @dim thorn ?
umbral reef
@vocal shard In a harshly limited way tho
vocal shard
what do you mean Oclac | Kairos
umbral reef
@dense void Then your looking at anything that works with SteamVR
Oculus is out of the question then
dense void
i mean oculus rift works with steamvr im pretty sure
warped sphinx
it does
vocal shard
what about windows mixed reallity
rough pulsar
The Rift S works with steamVR, but if money is what's holding ou back WMR is plenty good for how much it costs
umbral reef
Its pointless to do that tho-
But only really vive and Steam got a mix and match service right now
WMR works also and is an easy stepin for SteamVR
Also Oculus gets a slight performance hit when doing it
vocal shard
i was thinking about getting a WMR
umbral reef
@vocal shard Its a limit form of crossplay where quest and desktop users have to join specific worlds to play together.
Everyone needs to upload special quest compatible avatars to even show up
Loads of things on avatars are not allowed (from music to most shaders and ect)
Smaller room numbers and ect
rigid crescent
You want something you can expand on so basically all the pricey stuff
warped sphinx
whats so bad about the oculus? @umbral reef
rigid crescent
Or you end up paying more in the long run
vocal shard
how do i upload a quest world and avatar
rough pulsar
If you want "as good as it gets", get on the waiting list for the Valve Index
If you don't want to wait and literally shit money, grab a Vive Pro
umbral reef
@warped sphinx The products? Nothing they are great.
Oculus/facebook itself has loads of marks that can bite users in the ass even if they refuse to accept it.
Ranging from being locked into there store eco system and with that there product eco system
(Unless you want that slight performance/compatibility hit)
warped sphinx
i havent really noticed a performance hit with my oculus
umbral reef
The performance hit only happens if you play STeamVR
warped sphinx
it might be because i got an RTX2060?
vocal shard
quest or rift
umbral reef
Rift all the way if you got a pc that can run it
@warped sphinx Also VR isnt just Gpu, cpu is also fairly important.
And with a 2060 thats close to an 1070TI what can run most big VR games even well
umbral reef
Hmm that it also fine enough
But a good test you can do is running VRC's steam build and running VRC's oculus build
Should get a fairly neat performance boost
warped sphinx
what do you mean?
hard tinsel
need help, my login isnt working
umbral reef
Even with the SteamVR's native usage of oculus things compared to a year ago its still having to load/do more for the same work
And with a game like VRchat where any performance hit is important it shows well
vocal shard
htc vive oculus rift oculus quest or windows mixed reality
umbral reef
@hard tinsel Try the steps in #vrchat-support
If that fails reboot your network (totally off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on).
If that fails change your DNS (google how to do this, it aint hard and often helps with website loading speeds even).
If that fails email support@vrchat.com
hard tinsel
ty
umbral reef
@vocal shard Depends what you want it for
They all aim at different groups
Original rift also doesnt get sold anymore
vocal shard
so the rift s is the new thing?
umbral reef
It replaced the original oculus yea
warped sphinx
but i didnt understand what you meant about running VRC in oculus and steamvr
umbral reef
VRchat has a version on the steam store
But also on the official oculus store
vocal shard
i mean i am getting the samsung windows mixed reality because it has headphones and a mic
warped sphinx
i guess i can switch to the one in oculus store yeah since its free
umbral reef
It is
dim thorn
i got the vrchat bought on oculus store on my phone
one from steam on pc, all is left is quest
warped sphinx
@umbral reef what vr headset do you have?
rough pulsar
That generally means you have a connection problem of some sort. If vrc was down, we'd know
rough pulsar
And we'd know because whenever vrc itself goes down this discord explodes into chaos
rough flax
well then someone is ddosing me cause of my steam id being linked when it shouldn';t be...
inner cape
uuh
vocal shard
all of my avatars on vrchat are pc only
inner cape
rough flax
brb resetting router
vocal shard
yeah i have the same problem vrchat is down
rough flax
and modem...
inner cape
go fix yer stuff, yes
vocal shard
i did that once it did not work i need help
rough flax
I've gotten timed out 6 times the past 10 mins
stoic halo
my world has become a private instance sleep space for people
vocal shard
ive been having this time out problem on vrchat idk what to do
umbral reef
@warped sphinx I got myself a HTC vive
Back when i started it was oculus, vive or the first gen WMR
stoic halo
gonna stealth update the world with a jumpscare that starts after 30 minutes
ooga booga sleepy heads
vocal shard
wtf
umbral reef
tired as in?
warped sphinx
Just not being able to take more vr. kinda like a headache
umbral reef
Make sure the IDP is set right
warped sphinx
IDP?
umbral reef
What headset did you have again?
warped sphinx
oculus rift CV2 i think, but it might be CV1. Is there any way i can check?
umbral reef
There should be a slider that once you moves you get something in your screen lated to IPD
Also- im tired as i meant IPD and not IDP all this time :x
warped sphinx
do you mean the slider that makes things less blurry?
umbral reef
I dont have one myself so its hard to judge but big odds its that one yea
It changes the width between the glasses
umbral reef
Gotta set that up right else yours eyes will get tired faster then normal
rough pulsar
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61ueGFutGgL._SX522_.jpg
Is it this thing?
Actually you can even see the IPD slider on that image, bottom right of the HMD as you're wearing it
warped sphinx
yup that slider on the underside there. I believe i have set it up correctly but i still get a "headache" after like 3 hours
celest turret
Hey
rough pulsar
Do you need glasses at all or is your vision generally fine?
warped sphinx
I use contacts and i do have glasses.
rough pulsar
Do you need them to see clearly about 10-15 meters away?
warped sphinx
yeah i need them to see clearly like 1+ meters away
rough pulsar
I'm guessing you use them in VR as well then?
warped sphinx
i use my contacts in VR because i thought they would be more comfortable. I havent tried with my glasses
however my eyes gets tired from using contacts for 6 hours at a time when looking at a computer screen
rough pulsar
I'd give the glasses a try, but the Rift is pretty shit for using with glasses compared to other HMDs.
I'd also do a check of your IPD in the mirror with a ruler, lemme find instructions for that
warped sphinx
idk if im just dumb but i didnt understand this explanation at all
nvm i got it i wasnt thinking clearly. Its correctly set up on the oculus. I have 59-60mm IPD
It will probably work better with glasses.
vocal shard
hello
tidal parcel
Hi
tidal parcel
Hello
vocal shard
wazza
vocal shard
eh
tidal parcel
Thought so
vocal shard
lol
tidal parcel
Hi
rough delta
hello
tidal parcel
Nothings up really
vocal shard
the sun is right?
tidal parcel
Well I guess
vocal shard
aha.
tidal parcel
: )
vocal shard
tidal parcel
How’s your day
vocal shard
purty good
tidal parcel
Oooooooook
vocal shard
just finished playing soem vr chat
vocal shard
obsidian knot
I can't decide
http://www.strawpoll.me/18166664
tidal parcel
oh yeah
vocal shard
ok
tidal parcel
See you at random chat
vocal shard
k
rough delta
jolly glade
I cant press any menu buttons,is anyone else getting this bug?
I mean the esc menu.
Im hovering over them,but they dont light up,and if i click nothing happens.
rigid crescent
You're launched in VR mode apparently. It's been happening a lot
vocal shard
my vr headset broke because of the usb
rigid crescent
I don't think you need one to launch the game in VR mode. The issue has popped up a lot lately and that's been the reason
vocal shard
Is there a repair center that fixes vr headsets?
meager solstice
Usually u just contact the company/where u bought it from
What headset u got @vocal shard
vocal shard
@meager solstice samsung odyssey
meager solstice
I suggest contacting Samsung, or wherever u bought it from and see if u can get a replacement,
vocal shard
ok thanks!