#vrchat-general-2
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A trash picked laptop can run VRC in desktop mode.
I know, I've done it. š
Run it WELL
No? My old laptop ran the game at 11fps. Same woth my cousons newer laptop
11fps looking at what? Literally my 2Ghz laptop with a 5000 series IGPU runs it great.
90fps in some circumstances. 60fps with that fur shader on standing in front of a mirror. 64 fps with no fur shader. š
An even older laptop I found in the trash with a 4000 series IGPU gets solid 45s
(It runs at a base 3Ghz... 4 core)
So like... laptops with a default Intel GPU can run VRChat in desktop mode fine.
Literally any home world
Yeah they must have fixed whatever you were running into.
Because these days I can play on my laptop in desktop mode with an Intel GPU just fine.
No.. it wasnt that long ago
Mac doesnāt do SteamVR to my knowledge
^ also a good reason.
And Iām unsure if Oculus Store has Mac support
how long does it take for a user to be allowed to upload a avatar?
@vocal shard took me a few hours of playing and making friends
Itās not based on time. So itās impossible to answer. Iāve seen as early as 4 and as late as 40. Usually around 16. But again, itās not based on time. Leave the game running and it wonāt happen.
I haven't run an FPS benchmark on VRChat with my current GPU
What I do know is that if there are 20+ players or there are unoptimized shaders/models, I will get lag sometimes
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be 20-40 hours, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet```
Is it possible to DJ in VRchat yet?
then no avatar uploads for you
Are there any communities that are mature in VRchat now, or is it still reeee kids everywhere?
Depends where you go
I've had some great conversations in the Great Pug, even with the usual mirror lurkers
How do I find likeminded people in VR chat?
Is there not a hashtag system or something?
so the biggest social platform is not the place to meet likeminded people?
I don't think there's any kind of category system for worlds or users yet, aside from avatar worlds having their own section
The idea I get from it is to go and see different things that you wouldn't normally see
Like exploring virtual worlds?
I met my boyfriend off vrchat
Vrchat is a wonderful way to meet people
I wouldnt have a group of friends withoutt it
Dont be rude
I havent yet met a single person who can hold a decent conversation together
No need to insult people over a game
@sour wing Id be interesting in hanging witb you sometime : P my group and I is pretty social
I also enjoy music and game development
Vrchat is all meant for people who use it as an escape from the real world. There should be no jjudgement.
I also like making stuff, 3d printing, programming, cooking, philisophising
But my biggest passion is VR
Vrchats a wonderful place to meet people, especially people who like developing @sour wing
Ivr met tons of word creators and what they do is outstanding
@covert linden Ok well are you in there now?
Nah im in the car
I learned how to (basically) rig, weight paint and set up models just for VRchat so I could have the avatars I wanted
The Nier anomata world usually has tons of people
if nothing else it's an interesting experience
Then thats your experiance but ive met dozens of people on vrchat i adore
Met my bf in this discord and a ton of the members in my group all I met in vrc and theyre my best friends
How @covert linden how would I add you in VR chat?
By going to vrchat.net and searching "ashs"
Vrchat has changed peoples lives so dont let others tell you otherwise
Some good maps with nice people are Murder and Nier anomata, my two faves to finding people
I'm actually trying to find someone to partner with on a VR title currently under development, but as I'm a "digital lock in" i figured I might try to meet people interested in VR game dev in VRchat
VRC is just like any other place ever, including real life, you'll find people of all kinds.
Likeminded included.
If you're trying to find devs/creators, look their work up in game, see if they have their discord up, or add them and try to get in contact.
@quick kayak Thanks, thats useful info š
Majority of them have their info up in their worlds, or avatars.
So that quake guy got his account and uploaded stuff removed and one of his friends uploaded a potent crasher on ...mods website. Apparently he still has an account that still works.
I was thinking of creating a space for the game and having the GDD inside it on posters or whatever and leaving my contact details inside too
But its quite a lot of work, i need a cost/benefit analysis really
Is clap a bad word here?
Yeah, i was wondering what triggered that bot
@covert linden searching for "ashs" gives a lot of results, specifically what am i looking for?
Her name is just ashs
@vocal shard ty
And liiv, it was the site that you were trying to say that triggered the bot
Oh jeez, i even used a space and didnt even type 'com'
Just don't say it lol
Okay; everybody already knows about it anyway.
š idk lol
And trying to share a site you just said had bad stuff⢠why?
Clap
š
o.o
Get clapped
I'm telling 
Hmm
Whatās he gonna do bring me coffee
The "murder" and Nier automata worlds are good places to make friends? Might have to check those out..
Uhh not sure about murder
Transparency
Great pug is hit-and-miss I think
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what is sad boy?
It's a good pick. I've passed out there a few times but usually drunk.
Not sadboi related
Sadboy is when youāre feeling sad
moping
I've met more homies in the Pug than anywhere else as far as public go
^^
There was a fun pub crawl group going from Pug to Pug picking up friends to drive/ hang with lol
I think they still do it
and if you were on 2000s Internet, sadboys also listen to Linkin Park or the "How could this happen to me? I made my mistake.." song
Friends+ and Pugs are hands down the best place for friends tho
@boreal kelp oh, i'm not sure i can handle that
Then donāt do it
@sour wing I'm just referencing old internet memes
anyone playing right now?
!online
There are 5643 users in VRChat currently
Yeah 
i didnt know they had programmed sarcasm into vrcbot
Sarcasm Protocol Initiated
witty retort mode activated
The only use for the !online command is sarcasm tbh
Most active people in here are sarcastic
if i turn up in a vanilla avatar will people laugh at me?
Don't
Avatar worlds exist
The Quest avatars are pretty nice
on rift s
there needs to be a global avatar system so you can take it to any VR experience (that uses avatars)
Iām gonna make a quest avatar thatās just a png saying itās not too late to repent and to get pcvr
There is, it's called Unity lol
lol, yeah, i mean something that doesnt require any work from users
Thatās lazy
Oh cookie cutter character creators
i work in unity every day and i cant really be bothered faffinf making my avatar work whereever i go
At least MMDs can be unique lol
I mean just import it. That's it. Slide it into the chosen game's SDK and that's usually it
Most vrc models are already too cookie cutter like and lack creativity
Yeah that's the fault of the users and fads
@vocal shard I concur
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Tattoo Fox Girl #284782
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@rigid crescent So could i take a custom avatar into pokerstars for example?
Does pokerstars have custom avatars
no
what about Altspace?
in fact, i cant really think of many social VR experiences that allow custom avatars
Looks like it uses Unity
VRchat is the only one I've come across with the ability to import custom avatars
All the ones that exist if you mean purely social. Except I think RecRoom
yeah, i know the dev team, its built with unity
Neos, Lavender, VRC, Sansar, HiFi, Altspace
I did not know that!
This is clearly not VRC related, I'm contacting the authorities...
which of those do you regularly use?
VRChat lol
and which has a decent user base?
Why would I play the other ones 
I've only tried Neos and I'm not installing that ever again lol
yeah, i hear you. I used steamspy before to see which were most active and its VRChat by far
Neos lol
Can I add you in VRC @rigid crescent
Be sure to buy their crypto currency lol
Nah I don't add people from this discord on principal lol
Except Ash
You added me tho
oof
can i come meet you?
Did I lol
Yeah
It has to be natural and organic, otherwise it ain't fun
Epic game
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People seem to mentally bin Neos way too much. Itās just too early. Itās not ready for public. Engine is very promising thereās just no UI work yet. Wonāt talk too much about the positives since it is another rival platform but really give things time.
Lul
Well it's moreso the direction theyre going and the "beat VRchat" mentality
i think VR chat is well positioned to be the market leader, but its missing a lot of features for someone like me
Nothing is beating VRC, it's too big, community driver and memey
They tried to get some avatars creators for worlds in but it's like "why bother"
What are these features sir?
Vrchat just got a jumpstart of users due to some viral memes . If that didnāt happen this game would still be in early access, the player counts would still be low
Yup
yesir
But it did and no one can replicate that lol
And now any competition has to just have a better game
Need users to get users, or get lucky and go viral
And even then it might not matter.
too much to list here but one major thing is a better way to search for places and people and groups of people, i say this, i have been on a break from VRC for a few months, maybe i'll find it different when i go in later today
@quick kayak
best build it myself then
So the lack of this feature is what's keeping you from enjoying the game?
all i experienced was loads of people running around playing memes and generally messing around, some quite annoying or offensive. I couldnt really find a way to find people based on their interests
or even similar age group or whatever
Wrong time, wrong place man, you won't find interesting people to talk to all the time.
You haven't been lucky to find the right people
And most times in that crowd of memers and annoying people, there's fun people to talk to, etc etc. Just gotta find them.
and thats my point
Your talking to people tho not just a list of personalities.
Talking to people is an effective way to learn what intrests they have and to see if they line up with yours.
^
Also dont join the most popular worlds if you want to do anything properly
You're trying so hard to generalize people inside your bubble of interest instead of going out of it and meeting new people with different interest that could show you a thing or two.
Lets say i want to learn about pottery or digital design or whatever subject, from people who work on that industry or its maybe a hobby of theirs, wouldnt it be good to search for a group meeting where people are exchanging those skills?
But where's the fun in that, when you can be having a random conversation with someone and find out they're into that, vs having interest in someone due to this one thing they're interested in.
Within an social game for being social?
No?
On a hobby forum/reddit/discord/website?
Yes.
If people dont want to use that system they can go meet randomers
Is it so far fetched that someone wants to use a social VR experience to meet new people and exchange ideas and skills?
What Oclac said, it's pretty simple. I'm not trying to instigate anything, but do you lack any social skills, or is it something else that keeps you from taking time to having a conversation with a random human being and just chatting?
it's not, that's a thing already, in any game, social app, forum, etc.
The tools for you to meet someone and getting to know them, their interest, distaste and so on is already there, it's up to you to put the time for it.
No- As i found plenty of hobby people, but think of it like making friends IRL.
Its more an extra of being social towards people and seeing what they like instead of actively hunting for people with the same interests as me.
I've worked in bars and pubs for 20 years, i'm pretty social. I am simply trying to network in a virtual world. if it was the real world i could go on eventbrite, find an event, based on interests and go to it. why is that so hard in a virtual world where literally ANYTHING is possible?
Because there are no websites or groups to do meetups like Eventbrite...
So unless you organize it, get it spread out people wont see it.
so eventbrite inside vrchat maybe?
Isn't there a social vr game out already that you can schedule meetups, events and so on? Why don't you try that?
Id say go at it, start hosting events (Look at #events )
For those intrests you have and see if people care
because it has no userbase
and to be honest, this conversation is part of my research for exactly that. I'm currently deciding which platform to use
Well how would it even work?
You go all dating website mode and list your intrests or just start an event with an topic and pray people join?
It would be cool to do so, but there are other priorities/ bugs that need addressing, all the sociability is in your head, get out there and start socializing.
If i wanted to gointo VRC right now and talk to someone roughly my age with similar interests (ish) how would I do that?
there's a planned feature request for "groups" created by tupper
would be neat to see community groups become a thing within vrchat
thats the sort of thing i mean
By walking up to whomever peaked your interest and building up a conversation, see if they have same interest.
how many time do you think i would have to do that before i find a non REEEE kid?
Well as many as we all do.
@ornate finch Wont exactly be used for what we talked above though- Id be more like guildes in MMO's then a interests finder.
What system of vrc doesnāt have issues
It's not like when you get in a conversation with someone, you're sent into a void, others are listening and someone probably overhears you and wants to talk.
yeah obviously how tupper depicted it was more so along the lines of a "guild"
@brisk bone Unless you wanna go full china mode with points on humans that wont change though lmao-
People are cunts irl also so why wont they be cunts online
but simply having a list of community groups in which you can meetup within game would be neat
but probably not a priority due to discord or other platforms to find other people
Was about to say- We kinda have #community-servers-old
Its only larger groups tho but gets the idea over
Yeah but in RL i have way to filter out the idiots.
Record yourself shouting your interest, make an avatar and slap that into it, then walk around public rooms playing the source and boom, ez fix.

I would say filtering is easier in vrc compared to RL
@ornate finch and the one person i seemed to get on with rejected my ask to add them in VRC lol

Like I said man, natural and organic. You're forcing it.
most people here that are somewhat active will obviously avoid doing that
otherwise they risk potentially getting targeted from malicious individuals
You can find me at the PUG boyos.
arent they instanced?
Have you actually played VRC?
yes
You should know the answer to your question then.
You won't.
@polar elm Ok, I'll reconsider in a while when my heckles are down
Try and avoid the over crowded rooms like pugs with 20+
You could also create content or even collaborate with a creator if your into that. Vrc is a sandbox.
You make the game fun
I know, I'm a game dev.
I really want to get into an ecosystem like this
I just need to know I can find people to work with in there
instead of reeee kids and memes
Is your issue that you're finding it hard to friend people?
I'm not prepared to risk that much time on something if the community / userbase isnt the right one
I love talking with the world creators of this game
And the dev team on this platform do care alot
How do I find thses places?
Community events on the discord is a great start go to the Sunday meetup
The nature of the game at the current time is a little odd. People have been playing the game for so long that everyone has found their friend groups and tend to avoid public worlds.
HOWEVER. If you're looking to dip your toes and get yourself into the community , I would suggest looking at twitter and seeing who is who and who makes what. Along with looking at authors of worlds in games. There have been a number of recent collaboration projects, and this game could always use more map makers
They are one of the lifebloods this game for sure.
And we need more.
^
I am a streamer. Been playing this game since december 2017, I know a lot of people.
Can't believe no one has boosted this server yet. :P
lol
? this server is pretty good for finding development information
If you're interested in making worlds and the like, I know peeps that make em. And there are people who are constantly trying to innovate.
I only have created personal stuff but i like to help others
@thin sandal thats me, innovate and disrupt.
You got a portfolio anywhere? @sour wing
I believe we need better maps too, I scroll through the list and everyone I go to has some sort of issues that really bring down the idea of the map.
Feel free to add me same name ingame, remember the ! At the end
Not really, long time since i graduated and i've mainly been a parent up until a year ago, then I started developing a game and dont really have a need / time for building a decent one
@polar elm ty
Only thing that will make me stop playing is when wow classic arrives
I'm an all rounder mainly digital but physical stuff too. one of those minds thats too busy to log any of my projects or creations
I will say some people spent a lot of time building worlds and learning programs such as unity and blender and now they have jobs related to them
Big nice
@modern sand Nice boost. š
been doing like 30 - 50 hours a week on it
and am looking for a partner to come on board, need a unity / c++ specialist
Damn, what do you do for a living sick?
Have you familiarized yourself with how vrchat world making works yet along with what kind of scripts are allowed etc. Or is it a "im getting more info first" kind of thing
I've dabbled a bit
between parenting and building my game i have very little spare time
I can understand that. Well there are plenty of worlds that are big passion projects that are well put together
The makers usually have twitters
@thin sandal ty, i'm going to make some time to explore that.
Anytime
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Maru!Today at 19:38
Feel free to add me same name ingame, remember the ! At the end
will do
Epic
They are to scuffed to go public
@polar elm oooooh are they a bit risque?
Low frames , missing textures, and ofc all 4 checkboxes are checked in the unity uploader
oh, well i'm sure you will get there, how do you create? I.e. How do you create your models / textures?
@sour wing Check their discord profile
@still lark ?
Magic
@sour wing Check Cece's discord profile, they have some stuff linked there.
@still lark ty
I mainly do everything in blender as unity is a pain i edit only one model that i got from DA.
Every thing else is by hand or gifted/collab
I'm not sure if blender id that great for poly count, havent used it in a while, have you tried Maya or 3DS max?
Never, i but i hear its good. I realy want to try zbrush tbh
i use max, but i think maya is probably better, it seems a little more intuitive
nobody click mushrooms link btw
What headset do you have?
different 3d programs don't really affect polycount in any significant manner
All depends on how well you use them
i want to like max, i just dont like its layout. I've been using blender most
i still have yet to get cats to work correctly with eye tracking. Every time i try to use it to make an adjustmetn, it just explodes. I always end up doing it manually
@tranquil perch Just a dead RappyToday at 20:01
different 3d programs don't really affect polycount in any significant manner
I was thinking of mudbox
so sculpting isn't the final product though
you gotta retopologize it after sculpting and bake it
I'm learning š ty
mudbox is basically a m3m3 nowadays i believe it's pretty deprecated atm
but if you wanna know about performance for sculpting with high poly counts blender 2.8 is pretty good at sculpting
but zbrush is still king
ty
watch my language
When people realize that my Main Avatar Build isn't Knuckles and I am just stuck as a Knuckles for an entire year. People will then say I am always a Kermit.. but it will be the same Situation as the Runescape Avatars + 2D Avatars + Knuckle Avatars .. lol --
go make a kermit knuckle
I already made the Knermit
wow
It is one of my blocking stones to a certain animation I need to transition into my new Avatar Vessel
A knuckles that turns into a Kermit
amazing
Or the other way around.. however you want it
To make Animation -- Use the Fur Shader (but not to be used as Fur; then twist it and morph the animation; blend it with the Knermit same process... then turns into a Kermit) Only issue that I find difficult is how the Kermit has a different bone structure to the Knuckles .. so I will need to figure out how to skin the bones without forcing the kermit to be messed up in the process..
that's some serious knermit dedication
i'm proud of you my bruddha
yo lads
Hey
am i alowed to ask if people wanna play VR with me in this channel?
@still lark how could you!?
@smoky tendon Sure, but people speaking in here generally aren't in-game at the time, so it might be more effective to simply ask if anyone wants to add you
Hewwo
o/

pizza time
Lol
That was borderline
But funny
I'm looking for an avatar world with lots of models that have feet š£
Hmm :micthink: oh wait my emote didn't make it
looking for avatar worlds with lots latex and body physics lol
I'm assuming they deleted that for a reason unless you did it
ok
There's actually a world specifically catering to that but I'm not gonna say it because I'm a concerned individual and something tells me this is not a wholesome request
Only the utmost saintly worldseekers need search š
And don't randomly dm me wtf
I'mma get back to work smh
their used to be a tab called avatar worlds in the menu why did vrchat remove it
it's harder to find new avatars
Latex suits š¤ I know where this is going
why did they remove the Avatar worlds tab?
Yikes
Latex fox girl model š·
I'd argue that you can find the majority of them, but not every avatar world has the world "avatar" in it
It also doesn't answer the question of why they removed it
anyone now how to Report a Player with a Crasher avatar
@wild stump #moderation-reports
ty
Np
Does anyone know the image size of the banner for discord? asking since you guys have one for being verified
960x540 is recommended. It tells you this next to the Banner upload prompt š
How many people are needed to boost per level
2 for tier 1, 10 for tier 2, and 50 for tier 3
It also tells you that in the Boost UI
Thanks
Does anyone know where I can get giant avatars like Silverlily Giant?
Try looking them up?
Making a giant is e z
Whatās with the ? Every time you type in chat Joel
guess that guy with the Crashing avatar is still at it as i'm trying to join my friend
Cool
ppl never grow up
Have you tried blocking them thatās pretty effective
ya but i need to be in the same world to block them
Not really
You can block through search or through the website if you know their name
:vrpill:

:vrpill:

Itās literally the same emoji wtf
:vrpill-1:
Yooooo @boreal kelp we played Never Have I Ever yesterday, what's up
Huh, wasn't expecting that a VRChat discord user was there, but I'm doing alright @final zodiac
I'll have to see if I can pop in VRC tonight
Are the severs down for everyone?
!online
There are 5037 users in VRChat currently
Don't think so
lol
Ye
Nobody here but us potatoes
Potatoes
Keep getting kicked from VRChat (kicked from world) tried to restart multiple times. Does anyone know of this problem?
try clearing your cache and restarting your pc first.
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
this is how you clean your cache btw @supple sedge
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Yo let boosters use custom emotes in all the general channels
I'll deadass do it right now
lol
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why are those vrc emotes even in here š
VRChat game voice and audio produced by avatars are acting weird. People are VERY quiet and sounds produced by avatars are not working. Currently in a lobby with others who are effected



Banished to the shadow realm
snapped out of existence


Good day to all, how are you?!
Not too bad; hope you're well
oh wow nitro booster gets their own role color
ofc
@zinc plover please do not call out names here send a moderation report insted
as much as we apreciate trying to warn users we can not veryfy how true it is and someone could just claim innocent users do things to harm them.
fair enough

Fell asleep while watching Harry Potter with a bunch of strangers the other night
Best VR experience so far :)
has the vrchat unity version updated past 2017.4.15 yet, or is it still the same?
same
alright, thanks dude
Looking for feedback of anyone with Quest who has used ALVR or VRidge to play the PC version of VRC on Quest, and how it ran/looked.
i made a world and the world keeps kicking ppl out when they load in
Hello
It's a very selective room :P
its vrchat
i made it so ppl can join but when they try it kicks them or sents them to home degult

Was joke!
hello
can you play VRC without VR setup?
@spring grotto yes u can š
sweet, thank you!
anytime brother
Can I ask a question having to do with the VRChat home site?
Sometimes I look up worlds from the website and I see many stats including capacity, date published, visits, etc. Among these stats is heat and 1-5 fire symbols underneath
So what's heat? Is it popularity? Is it something to do with how much heat your computer will put off trying to process the world?
That's three questions
Yeah, I know that much, but it was meant to be just one question. It'd be nice to know what exactly heat is supposed to mean
yes each heat symbol indicates how many pcs its set on fire
I know blatant sarcasm when I see it. Look, I just want to know if heat just translates to popularity or an estimate of how hard your computer has to work because of graphic intensity or how big it is in general
If heat also translates to file size, then at least clarify that theory as well
It's popularity.
Thank you
I wouldve given you an honest answer but Iunno
I wondered the same once but stopped caring fast
Your sense of humor is endearing, at least. Sarcasm's good to have
But I agree with you it was so confusing
The symbols I mean
Yeaah it is
@vast tulip How could I what? :P
be scruffy!
Sorry! Can't help it!
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
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where the hell is everybody getting those modified nanachi bases I see everywhere
Make themš¤
I want human Nanachi

eeeeessshh
everytime I try to edit an existing model, the rig gets borked >.<
and it turns into a porcupine lol
Uh, what are you trying to edit on it š¤


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Here is some Giggles! š Picture VRchat with Raytracing and how many house fires insurance claims! OHHHHHMYYYYY
Ray tracing moded client š
almost every character would be extremely emissive and light up dark rooms
@vocal shard Make sure you were editing the original blend file from right before you exported the FBX, do not re-import the exported FBX and modify it
So I need the actual blend file?
I can't just export the FBX from the unity package and go ham on it in blender?
š
I got sick š
@vocal shard this can work but first fix up the avatar and save it as a blend right before exporting. You will have to set it up in unity over again from scratch but going forward use the blend file to edit and reexport and it will not break in unity going forward
If you only have the fbx I have found no real way to edit the fbx and save over it without needing to redo everything in unity.
Sometimes editing the fbx works by fluke, but editing the blend from right before fbx export always works properly for me
I would love to play vrchat again but my computer broke
I feel bad for you
I guess I have to wait until I graduate high school to get a job so I can buy a ultimate gaming pc to play vrchat
bro I got a job in grade 10 lol u dont need to wait
You just work at a mcdonalds or something.
if you wait youll be more concerned about moving out and you wont have much savings to get something 'ultimate.'
Though I wouldn't
Ive worked at fast food, does take a bit mental health toll however its good for when youre in school and need money. after school you are focusing on putting your money towards othrer things and dont really have thousands to spare
As someone who lives in a place where there are only people from the upper middle class, I just work to get experience and so I don't feel bad for eating food and making my parents pay for food.
I live in a place with mostly lower class we are all broke xD
Why do I feel so bad for everything that happens ;-;
i live in a spatial anomaly where lower and upper economic classes live with eachother uwu
ive been debating getting a fastfood job heavily since im at the age where i can but if i dont gun it senior year im gonna graduate hs with the worst GPA
Shouldnt feel bad for things as things happen for a reason
I know things happen for a reason but when people are stressed/anxious then I feel their pain and I always want to help.. Depending if I can.
Try for retail
I got a fast food job, and my mental health is destroyed. Im always miserable even when not working, I cant ever find time for my hobbies or to be productive, and all i ever feel like doing is running away
at least get retail so the work load while youre there is less
I went from daily video editing, drawing, to doing both those things once a month if im lucky. When I try, its like I just need air and a break.
I agree, people keep telling me to go for retail but my height and age makes me pretty much unemployable for that job
If you have a job and school essentially thats 50 hours a week you lose.
You also dont get a summer break, any holidays
So if you work for too long under those conditions, youre gonna get it bad. you need at least 2 weeks holiday every year, and thanks to work I havent had that in years and its eating me alive. So I warn you please be careful
oof :<
I wish I could tell you theres a better side but there isnt
...
If you get along with your coworkers and you have fun during the job tho, It might be just alright, but fast food isnt ideal for that
Subway doesnt count tbh, Like I dont know how working there is like, but at my work, which is a busy ass fast food place, Im forced to spend every second cleaning, I get harrassed at work things never die down
I can't work there because I don't have anyone to talk to, on my shift it's only me.
subway is empty
man thatd be awesome, nobody can tell u what to do
every subway ive been to has had like one or two people active at a time
I hear "find something to do" every 5 minutes
i feel like id go insane
I went to work once And it wasnt until I feinted due to a stress migraine I got sent home, that was the first and only time I got sent home early. One time I allnightered for a 9 hour shift, and caught a bad sickness due to it, I was so pale, silent, and I could barely stand and still had to finish my shift it sucked
My height kills me, I barely have my head above the freaking glass.
How tall are u?
i dont get why a lot of fast food places insist employees stay when theyre sick
Solar knows :v
because they dont wanna find a replacement Solar
first of all, they have a lotbf fucking people in the kitchen all the time that im surprised they dont get crowded
If I go home, they need someone to cover my ass because my Role is important
second, you might as well be putting your customers in danger
Yeah true
I'm like 5 foot something
I'm 5'2
5'4
youd think that the risk of a lawsuit every few seconds is greater than having one less on the job for a day or two
youre taller than me so u can def get a job silly
5'2
5'6", just barely tall enough to be presentable
i could probably go retail. i wouldnt mind
im sorry, are you really 5'2?
Yes I am
thinking
See, if I call into work sick, I get accused of lying but they cant force mee, if im there they wont send me cuz theyd ned to find a replacement last minute and they dont want too
also this convo is random chat worthy
They let me go home when I had a migraine and feinted, but after I feinted I was like 102% ok >;c
I also work in vrchat >:)

My height makes people say, "Are you someone's kid?" I'd just reply with. "Was that your order?"
Bro I sound 8 and i'm 5'2 and not a single person has ssaid that your customers are rude xD
Well I mean, that's what I get for looking like me
Also for starting puberty in January and finishing in February.
There's something not normal about that, I just can't figure out what.
is that even possible?
Puberty doesnt it usually last from like 12(randomage) to 17ish?
I mean definitely longer
I was under exaggerating a lot
I went from like 12 to 14.
And that's it.
mine lasted from like 10 to 17ish
That's normal I think
I'm not educated enough about it but that's what the doctor said
THat
I finished puberty earl
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tiny š
Jesus christ Rea
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@Aquamiddlescore
!online
There are 6053 users in VRChat currently
fun fact the vrc bot on the side gives u the active user count >
I don't see it, is that not supported in mobile yet?
@rotund wren omg is that the real Lucifer?
U know it š
rise up
Nah I like it down here
.....

Clear cache

ah yeah
- Advanced Settings in the Settings Menu that allows you to clear your cache and local preference store
Thast neat
Thats really neat
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I just watched a final short message get sent and immediately deleted in announcements and my curiosity is killing me as to what it was
it just said "delete meeeee <3"
My mind is now at ease, thank you
Discord mobile will put a ghost ping in the announcements channel unless you do that
That's odd
It's fixed in the next Discord mobile update but a lot of people don't have the update yet
wtf, I am falling through the floor
@muted maple Swap avatars and or worlds
How could I swap if I fall as soon as i spawn, is from the update.
@covert chasm thanks for the awesome implementations .. any eta on the oculus merging system to website, the option to upgrade account ?
Can take a few minutes, restarting will usually grab it immediately
@twin iron Soonā¢
Thank you
I am not sure why that is happening tho.
Noo, it did something to my map.
Agreed by the way, props for the cache-clearing addition, that's really handy
Is weird, wasn't like that before. https://gyazo.com/254247e5cfe41c4ac5e52323abfd40bf
Puts me into a wall and shoots me under the map at times.
Sounds like a collision layer issue
grab the latest SDK and reupload after using the collision layer setup button
Yeap, thank you.
So how's that thumb issue with index controllers/rigging Tupper?
Also, if you mind opening the dms for me for a sec, would be amazing @covert chasm
But why ?:P

I see
Can we get comp's soonTM emote as an emote in here
I still think the best solution would be to let us users assign our own muscle constraints
because that issue is what is known as a "non-blocker"
we'll get to addressing it, but for now it should not hold up releases
There are very few knuckles users right now, why push out that particular feature right now?

hopefully I'll at least be able to set my knuckles to emulate wands and set them up how they were yesterday
I must say, the cache clear update was the least expected, yet one of the most pleasant updates I've seen as of late. Many people have had trouble clearing that due to not being too tech savvy, this really helps with that.
Its so you can tickle people
yeah cache clear is great
because it is a non-blocking issue, addressing it may take longer than we're comfortable with (and holding up the release)-- we are going to address it, but it should not hold up releases
yeah now I can help my not tech savvy cousin delete cache
Ok, but in the interim can we have a "legacy knuckles controls" option?
Thank you for the new quest shader
"Yeah go press that button"
Way easier than
"Go to this folder, that folder..."
I'm personally not really a fan of that, and you're also asking for an interim fix for a system that just had its first pass and is, in itself, an "interim" implementation
it will get fixed, but not right now š
whos got knuckles, I wanna see em in action!
Also on top of the cache update, thanks for that knuckles support! Now I actually get to consider buying them more seriously!
Rocket I posted a video of them in action in this canny https://vrchat.canny.io/open-beta/p/785-201923-beta-default-animations-for-index-users-looks-unnatural-on-several-mo
okay i got a problem my steam vr isnt picking up my headset anymore
Speaking of the thumb issue, which models are usually the most affected? Or is it pretty case by case
yesterday it was fine
all MMD models
Tupper buy me some knuckles bro
I wanna see them in VR flesh @uncut gorge
and fixing the rig to work with knuckles makes it look messed up without knuckles
so model makers/avatar world makers will have to have a knuckles and non-knuckles version of each avatar
Oof
ah, sorry rocket I'm at work
Didn't consider that
Thats ok @uncut gorge
Something tells me people will be even less inclined to put work into making a Knuckles-ready avatar than they already are with full-body
It's gonna be a very niche thing, I imagine
We should be addressing the issue with future work on the Index Controller support, so I don't think having to adjust your rig will be necessary
at least the full body fixes don't affect non-full body users negatively. The thumb "fix" for knuckles does. But yeah knuckles users are a very small number of people right now
for now, you've got a crab thumb š¦
just frustrating to have my experienced worsened for what seems like no reason
omg now people can make shadow puppets!
100% understand the frustration, i was tooling around with trying to hack a fix around it for about 4 hours yesterday
which is why we will be working on addressing it š
crab people crab people
tupper is a dev now?
š¦ thumbs are gone š¦
0h wait he means with his thumbs xD
no they aren't

Tupper removed his own thumbs so he doesn't have to worry about it
(they were very tiny)
oh ok so tupper broke the game guys
tupper is in close intimate relationship with devs you see
Tupper wrote the code that makes the friends list not update š
tupper wrote the broken neck code, that wasnt a glitch afterall!
friends.dont make it update == yeah, cool
lol
More things to blame on Tupper
Like my emote not making it on to the server even though I asked nicely ;-;

and how theres no sneeze emote

I paid good money-jk I got that shit for free
don't
if "c" = crouch
look up
look further up than even possible
if people wanna see their friends
just like.. dont updat eit
but maybe sometimes update???
k that's it
if 'c' = crouch
look up
Further up than possible, break the rigs neck :D
gee i wish i could just snap my neck by kneeling
L
;c man im not retyping that
Tupper how do you feel when all playerbase blames things on you?
Im happy the neck thing happens when I'm in the steam home
when you type too fast for the 5 sec limit
tupper how do u feel when u break the game
oof
lol
@coral lagoon it was funny and a little charming about 12 months ago, now i just kinda ignore it
tupper ur a good mem im sorry that ppl bully u uwu
I just want to finish the update in a map and hope the stream prefab still be working
One of the VRChat community manager job requirement is actually being a masochist
i just read canny posts nowadays and encourage good bug reports
What's a bad bug report? 
Tupper please keep safe the video /stream prefab
"fix game ples"
protect it with your life
'the games broken! every single update I SWEAR'
Oh tru
@rigid crescent here's a good one i saw recently
title: "fix ik"
desc: "fix it now"
the game works like a charm wvat u mean
Understandable
Did you shoot that one up the ladder to the top brass?
a charm as in a lucky charm
i shot it directly into the "Closed" bin
tiedd into a necklace of paperclips
paperclip bracelet is edgy boi
You just coded Tupper
Is Tupper system 32
im uploading tupper to my g drive cya
Clearing cache in game will be nice. No needing to restart the game after forgetting to do the weekly purge.
Itll be awesomee, my friends dunno how to clear cache so FINALLY I can show them without being like aaa
inb4 the cache clear button increases the vrchat servers' bandwidth usage 10x
everyone gonna be redownloading maps far more often
Telling Cortana to delete system32
VRChat let's you meet other people though the use of algorithms and coding
If you wanna know why people are always frustrated with Tupper just look at his answers on the canny.
Like people demanding individual volume control, only to be told by Tupper (who's title there is clearly stated as "Community Manager" not "Developer") that "it wouldn't be natural". Or "Your IP can't be traced on vrchat it's impossible". Even though it is. And the developers themselves have even said so. Unless they've switched to a more secure system or somehow secured steams P2P system they were using.
/rant/
I like that he mentioned Gesture toogle was for Index only "at this time.". Hopefully I'm not the only one who sees that as a great feature period. The touch has a left hand joystick ready to be pressed for the same purpose .
So I hope they will bring that feature to all controllers. I have Avatars I can't use regularly because the animations are too intense for conversatios, but I do like having animations available.
@vocal shard would you rather tupper pretend like it might come someday when it won't? I would much rather people be real then give the corporate "nice" crap :p
no bully tupper he has a sneezy cat.

But, he is right though. With a real audio spacializer individual sliders wouldn't be needed
I dunno I like when staff gives smartass responses. I think Aev's are still my top 3
Trogdor is a good cat
I'm unsure where I've ever made that precise statement, but you're free to make your arguments!
re the IP thing in particular
Wanna bet he said you cant get someones house address off vrchat
I think your official response was "get a VPN forehead"
i do agree with individual volume sliders though-- if someone's too loud, ask them to turn down their mic, as they're too loud for everyone /shrug
anyways, got stuff to do
The canny isn't an order form. Your don't get it because you want it
@hey Tupper have the devs recognized that the gesture toggle would be great for all controllers?
yes, we noted we want to give it to everyone possible in the blog
which you should...
read
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please read the notes
WMR even got a shoutout
Need to make a tl;dr š
maybe i shouldnt have skipped that part brb
Ever since networked IK was introduced, it seems idle animations are playing twice. Can anyone confirm? https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/idle-animation-plays-twice-due-to-networked-ik-causing-body-jittering
It seems like the idle animation of an avatar is now played both locally and remotely, thanks to the local animation being included with the networked IK.
Cool, when I can but I saw it between the lines in the announcement. That will help with performance too, some.
That's fine. I'm not here to cause trouble just saying what I've seen/heard from others.
And no because audio specialization doesn't work that way and isn't always reliable. And not everyone is willing to turn down their mic.
Especially if they're too loud to hear you ask that to begin with. People have already thoroughly argued the issue on the canny, and it looks like the devs might implement the slider idea. (Hopefully) so......yeah.
The blogs are generally a quick read and informative 
@weary bison did vrc say wmr?!?!
WMR?
Ah dont listen to others without seeing it yourself Fika
They showed screenshots. .-.
I can say that tupper has a sneezey cat who always sneezes on him, but without proof you shouldnt trust my word.
lol
I mean I heard a lot of stuff. I generally assume everything I hear about this game is a lie without proof. Afaik the response was "get a VPN" tho, it's probably still there
@covert chasm You guys have made a great game thanks for the efforts and it's too bad more people can't appreciate the gift that is VRchat rather than. Focus on what isn't perfect for them at any given time
True. Like the guys claiming hackers can make your computer kasploosh.
Also do the index controller still not work on mixed setups?
someone told me that they can Hack u and then fry your vr
works on mixed now
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Release notes mentioned that fix
not officially supported though 
Waaaaaaah if they can make that work on mixed reality I wonder what else can be done with mixed reality that hasn't yet. o.o
(And I don't just mean vrchat but other developers working on VR content)
Uh can knuckles even work on the WMR?
I hear mixed reality? š
Maybe with valve base stations + Knuckles but then you might as well get the valve headset
By the way folks. You can play PCVR with a Quest through Steam VR and the Virtual Desktop App on Quest
@vast tulip the point that Fika was making is more that he tends to close posts prematurely without even having it be discussed
The same way you'd use any SteamVR tracked controller with a non-SteamVR tracked Headset
Because of personal opinions/taste
I have had to keep that a secret until now
Or at least, that's what I gathered. No way you can discuss or even ask about a feature in the team in literally 2 minutes. Not properly
Iāll be fine
You gotta have a set of Base Stations and use the Space Calibrator
That's wow o.o
No sideloading necessary and virtual desktop costs $20 but it's a great app on it's own
Howās the framerate?
Depends on your PC
And just to be clear, itās the vr version right?
Mine stays at 72 most of the time
Yāall still make toast in the bath?
Yes its the VR version full PC on Quest
Thatās huge news.
A 5GHz router with your PC connected via cable is best
I played Steel n Gold with it
Is this just a casual drop here? You might want to go to reddit with that bombshell.
Irs already a well known thing
In steel n gokd I had a little studder but I hit those I aimed at
Youre streaaming it from your pc the quest isnt running it
I knew about ALVR and VRbidge but was not aware of a method involving no sideloading
Well ALVR and Rift cat are known projects
Correct Rea
Still need a PC capabke of running VR
The point of this Rea is it's less apps and better supported without side loading
Yeah itās essentially cheap wireless PCVR. Cheaper than a vive + wireless adapter, probably same quality
But honestly with full VRchat as an option the Quest is great for most other gsmes.
With the benifit of also having a standalone headset
I didn't spend hours in the out it anything... but I made videos using it
I was able to go to another room and play it from my PC wirelessly.
For VRchat it was great. For me Best Saber was not playable with Virtual Desktop but custom songs have come to Quest
Itās very tempting but I need that sweet finger tracking
Honestly VRchat is the only reason I can see to bother with it. The other ports to Quest better match their PCVR versions.
Yeah Iād mainly do it for totally wireless fullbody in vrc
I haven't successfully used full body yet.
I did successfully calibrate with space calibrator though.
I see no reason it shouldnāt work, Iām already familiar with hybrid setups
ALVR seems more promising for FBT
Well wht happened is ..
I calibrated it twice the placesoaced drifted shortly after VRchat launch
Yeah that just sort of happens even on rift hybrid
That dift doesn't affect using the Quest but it affects the Vive combo. But I don't think this happens with ALVR but. .
ALVR doesn't uplorr the built in mic yet or touch on the controller
And ALVR has the wrong pitch for the controllers. Virtual Desktop works perfect with full touch and mic support
My Rift CV1 Vive combo stays calibrated weeks at a time.
I added a texture to my avatar's shirt in Blender with a little playing around in Blender. Wish I knew how to cleanly merge vertices so I can add textures to shirt shoulders
That link is a video I began using Quest through Virtual Desktop
Mine didnāt. Iād always put a tracker up to a touch to make sure they were still pinpoint the next day. They never were. Always off by an inch or two
@boreal kelp Select both verts, hit space; type remove doubles. If they didnāt merge, Increase merge distance on remove doubles dialog
Donāt remove doubles on the whole avatar or anything that intersects itself will glued together
I pray to the fact I can now connect to home also nice that they did the new things
nice nice clearing cache on the go
Ok, the bindings are partially broken now for Virtual Desktop. I'm looking into it. Maybe it is related to the VRchat update, or the fact that I haven't updated.
The controllers are still working. Touch is responding and gesturing but once again the joysticks have to be clicked to move... and jumping isn't possible.
So if anyone is rushing out to try this out, just beware there is a temporary glitch.
Jump was moved to the other stick iirc could be wrong
Getting a few crashes on desktop today
Tried to join a friend in the Great Pug, only to be booted before the world properly loaded
Its ok adeon you can have fun with me instead I have vrchat and burgers
Solar you can come tooo
@sweet hollow dont fucking dm me.
Solar turn your dms off if theyre not off
If you sent me anything sxual it was 100% gonna go to a mod.
Dont dm me. Dont spam call me in dm. Final.
I literally only unblocked my dms to contact a mod I dont need dm harrassment :)
Pog ty ily
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@covert chasm can someone DM me with info on how to bind Oculus touch to VRchat with a manual edit. I have everything working but gestures on Quest through SteamVR but gestures. The controller icon in steam lets me verify that Steam is seeing all of the touch inputs. I just need to know how to bind those inputs to get gestures working. The Dev had them working somehow before the update but it looks like a VRchat Binding will be better than a VRchat specific solution that can be broken by updates.
You go home now
