vrchat-general-2

[tacit plank]

Wearing a hoodie too

[covert linden]

I know it is which is insane.

Im overheating with a solid 20c

[fathom swan]

Bruh

[tribal oxide]

Actually I might turn on the ac later then close everything just to keep my house cool for a while

[covert linden]

Im happy that I wont have a cooling issue with my pc since my boyfriends building it and he knows how to do it right

Itll.be a big leap from my current laptop which gets hawt

[fathom swan]

At least yours doesn’t sound like a fucking jet engine whenever doing anything lmao

At least I know the fans work lmao but it’s loud as fuck

[tribal oxide]

You don't know

[covert linden]

Id laugh so hard at that

[tribal oxide]

When I open up the case for my computer all you will be able to hear while playing vrchat is rvchvhrvhhchrvhhchr

[fathom swan]

That’s a dying fan then chief

[covert linden]

Sometimes my boyfriends pc fans just go outta whack, out of nowhere and im like "is there a plane going through your room?"
"Nope... pcs going crAZY"

Time to replace ssome of your fans : P

[fathom swan]

It’s worse for when my laptop is plugged in cuz I have it set to max performance

Shit breaks the sounds barrier stg

[tacit plank]

My laptop usually runs at 50%+ CPU, I can't even hear its fans

[covert linden]

Oh same, but ive got an under the laptop fan and a big cold air fan right beside it, I aim it at. I cant hear the fans tho, except for my own

[tacit plank]

If I put it on my bed I can hear it slightly

[covert linden]

I cant put my laptop on my bed without the underneath fan unless I want a fire

[fathom swan]

Only downside is if I have my keyboard glowing on. It which speeds up the heating process and makes the fan fucking die

[tribal oxide]

Scuse me, I must goeth

[heavy dawn]

You can fix a computer fan easily by popping the cover off the back (under the label) and putting some grease on the axel.

[tribal oxide]

Buh bye.

[heavy dawn]

👋

[fathom swan]

Tschuss

[covert linden]

I find it so funny when my bfs fans go crazy because its literally out of nowhere, and not often.. but super loud

[heavy dawn]

Yeah they don't often put much lubrication on fan axels. They're moving parts. They need lubrication. That fixes fan wobble 100% of the time. (Takes a while for the grease to work its way between components, so it'll take a while of running to make the noise go away completely.)

I mean, new fans aren't that expensive so it's up to whatever your time is worth. 😃

But it's wasteful to throw out perfectly good fans.

[vocal shard]

question

[languid beacon]

answer

[vocal shard]

who tf are watchdogs, and why the hell should I care if one of them enters my world

So tired of hearing "A member of X has enter the lobby"ear rape music

[languid beacon]

That was just a screen space shader on someone’s avatar. It was not generated by the game. What it means is who knows the person made it themselves.

[vocal shard]

the audio is part of a shader?

[snow wadi]

Just block the avatar

Just children trying to be "cool"

[vocal shard]

ah

[languid beacon]

Audio is part of the avatar too yes

[vocal shard]

sometimes, I feel like I'm too old to be on vrchat

but then I see something awesome and I snap out of it

[languid beacon]

Basically people can kind of make whatever they want both audio and visually I’ve seen some confusing stuff like screen space shaders that look like the disconnected popup complete with the sound (looks perfect to desktop users only)

I think it’s funny but if you don’t know people can (almost) script stuff it’s easy to think things are part of the game

[muted plaza]

hello

Can someone help me

So I am trying to upload a character on VRChat and EVERYTIME i try logging in on the VRChat SDK, it lags and removes all the info. And when I put the information and it doesn't lag, it just doesn't sign me in.

[modern oar]

#avatars-2-general

[muted plaza]

dude I know how to download avatars

I can;'t log in, I can't sign in into my account

[cold ibex]

Yeah but its most likely people know the problem in #avatars-2-general this is just general chat err

[rigid crescent]

@languid beacon literally the day after we were talking about people being banned for certain things some streamers is banned for it kind of cementing the point 👀

It's a shitstorm so I'm not gonna link it but the timing 👌

[languid beacon]

Fairest of nexts

[pale hull]

Oh yeah, streamers are starting to get banned for erp and topics sexual in nature on vrchat. Twitch has been thinking of second life vrchat on twitch.

streamers that are more, well into sexual things are being banned

[still lark]

I feel like that's complete bullshit, twitch doesn't think. :P

[vocal shard]

If they want to crack down on sexual content they should take a look at the artifact section of Twitch

There were bots with thousands of viewers streaming porn

[quiet trench]

they banned those. lol

[pale hull]

The owner of “sexy Sunday” was banned due to his YouTube channel

[vocal shard]

Yeah Xig

[umbral reef]

Not that odd-
Actually amazed they after such a long time stand up against this crap

[pale hull]

With the porn, they were banned though. It’s not like they monitor every single twitch channel

[vocal shard]

Xig never broke vrc tos tho cause he was told in an email by a mod he was fine

[tribal oxide]

Henlo

[vocal shard]

In the past

[tribal oxide]

Also what the hell is going on.

[pale hull]

Yeah but twitch has been considering that for vrchat for a while now, but they are really close to doing it now. So I’m guessing vrchats trying to put a hold on lewd things on the internet for a little so twitch can stop nagging about the content that vrchat brings

[vocal shard]

Not like irl titty streamers are any better than the lewd content on vrc

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Doing it in private =/= advertising people to go to that nsfw work and showing 'sfw' echi content online.

[vocal shard]

?

[pale hull]

True but when you see thongs on anime characters and almost fully naked avatars on twitch, things are a little different than someone showing cleavage on stream

[vocal shard]

^^ my point exactly

[umbral reef]

Gotta also keep in mind that VRC and Twitch both are US countries.
There definition of nsfw/lewd/not fit are different then the Japanese and even EU standards.

[vocal shard]

K

[umbral reef]

Just listen to denzels new album fez

Shits a pure banger party list

[vocal shard]

I know we lost a legend today

[pale hull]

Lol

[boreal kelp]

I dread the day when questions in the "Never Have I Ever" world have to be family-friendly

[vocal shard]

ThInK oF tHe ChIlDrEn

Nope those were still there

Just not seen as much by the regulars

[boreal kelp]

Oh, you mean these children over here that are making jokes about their pee-pees and girls' bouncy boobies

[umbral reef]

I love XigneoN's twitter post btw lmao
Somany people throwing memes around

[vocal shard]

Same it’s amazing to scroll through it

[boreal kelp]

"ThInK oF cHiLdReN" But what do you have to say when your kids engage in juvenile or lewd humor with their friends?

Can't keep them from finding out about this stuff forever.

[vocal shard]

You know that’s a joke right

I’m making fun of the people saying that kind of thing by typing it that way

[boreal kelp]

Yea I'm aware. It's just funny to poke at the moral guardian logic and statements

[vocal shard]

It is

[tribal oxide]

Hmm

[boreal kelp]

In before Plexstorm overtakes Twitch when people learn of them and find out that they have less restrictions (i.e. - hentai games are allowed)

[vocal shard]

Pila

[boreal kelp]

or you know.. this guy does something
https://d13ezvd6yrslxm.cloudfront.net/wp/wp-content/images/Thanos-subreddit-700x300.jpg

🤔 Is it just me or do image links no longer display the image on Discord

[rough pulsar]

They do, we just have them disabled in certain channels here.

[boreal kelp]

Alright. Just thought Discord might have been bugging out

[rigid crescent]

🤔 did he ever post the email? I've been giving him benefit of the doubt on it tbh

Seems like the first thing I'd do

Also I made it into one of the videos the famous vtuber strikes again

[umbral reef]

Same- But im fairly sure the email makes it clear he broke it or took only the context out of it that he wanted.
But cant say that as it isnt released.

Wait what? Link it mic!

[rigid crescent]

Yeah I'm 100% assuming he's telling the truth but I mean if he wasn't I wouldn't be surprised lol

https://twitter.com/SammyZachary/status/1134260600278802432?s=19

I'm in like .5 seconds at the end lol

[umbral reef]

Wowie- Dont forget me when your even more famous man

[modern oar]

Talking, being idiots

[umbral reef]

The clowing of dumb people? Yes.

The nsfw-ing? No.

[modern oar]

Eeehhh

Oooh

That one's on point

[tribal oxide]

Welp

I wasn't in it for that last one

[modern oar]

There are worlds that are fun

Shooters, dungeon ranking is pretty fun

[umbral reef]

Creating content, exploring content, being social in a social game, making friends, joining and or hosting events. Nothing to do beside ERP right.

[modern oar]

^^^^^^^^

Exactly

[rigid crescent]

🎣

Pause

[umbral reef]

👀
You saying that makes it just a meme topic.
There is an insane amount of content within the game that is LEAPS better then anything popular right now.
Get a group and go exploring instead of saying this silly stuff

Also dont give credit to specific groups for taking over things as clowing has a meaning way before the most recent one.

[boreal kelp]

I saw a shooting range world a couple days ago. Gun selection was limited and it could use more work imo

best gaming shooting range to me was the one from Perfect Dark so I may be bias

[modern oar]

There's a pixelated one to, that one's fun

Friend of mine hit the 1000 yards/meters one

I don't remember the name

[boreal kelp]

The only guns were a sniper rifle, an AK and an assault rifle if I remember right

[umbral reef]

Im cooking RN so listing worlds is hard for me

[boreal kelp]

Do some of these games require VR or can you do just fine in desktop

[modern oar]

There's that VR excluses one tho

[delicate ice]

yeehaw

[umbral reef]

Try the Death Space map

Also- i just realized how pointless it would be to make a list to search worlds as you cant find them anyway with the way searching works

[delicate ice]

okokokokok

♋

[unkempt inlet]

I have a question

[delicate ice]

yes

e

[unkempt inlet]

I have vr chat and I'm pretty new to it as I got a vr

[delicate ice]

okay

[boreal kelp]

Favorites works but the number count is broken and still displays "0/32"

[delicate ice]

where is the question

[unkempt inlet]

How do you use those special moves in vr or whatever its called xD

[delicate ice]

wdym moves

[covert linden]

what kind of special moves...

[delicate ice]

f

[unkempt inlet]

Like uuhhh

Deku for example

[boreal kelp]

If you're talking emotes/dances, go to your menu

[rigid crescent]

Gestures. Not all avatars have them.

[boreal kelp]

Emotes vary by avatar

[rigid crescent]

Well special gestures

[unkempt inlet]

I pressed random buttons and green lightning flashed around him

[rigid crescent]

Is there no guide on this? Lol

[covert linden]

Shift + F1-8 not all avatars have that feature

[unkempt inlet]

But in vr tho

[rigid crescent]

They have got VR

[covert linden]

your fingers

Move your fingers, you know how to do that with your vr dont you?

[unkempt inlet]

Yeah

[covert linden]

then its that, just some avatars dont have it

And yeah mic but they said they pressed random buttons, so it hinted at desktop

[boreal kelp]

F1-F8 keys control the fingers in desktop? That's new to me

[covert linden]

Yes plus shift ^

[rigid crescent]

I think there's a tutorial world right? Just the gestures.

[boreal kelp]

Any hand/arm controls yet on desktop

[rigid crescent]

No lol

[covert linden]

thats not possible.

[rigid crescent]

"Eventually"

[unkempt inlet]

So just move your fingers for a "Gesture"?

[vestal pier]

@cold saddle yes

[covert linden]

eventually theyll support it, just not for a long while.

[rigid crescent]

Why ask if you just assume it's a no lol

[covert linden]

if you can move your fingers ingame Midunkiya, then yes thats a gesture

sometimes that causes an animation to play

[unkempt inlet]

I usually accidentally do that all the time, so liek a specific hand movement?

[rigid crescent]

Seems silly asking for answers when you already think you know them lol

[covert linden]

it likely wont occur in 2 days.

itll be gesture based for awhile

[rigid crescent]

Oh, the ol "pretending to be retarded" gag

classic

[boreal kelp]

VRChat community makes me think of old Internet. Even with my social anxiety, I like it

[inner cape]

old internet was never as retarded as this

[delicate ice]

uwu

[covert linden]

@unkempt inlet The fingers you do, those are gestures. Sometimes, the creator will add animations, alike to the flame or whateevr you saw. you can scroll though them, depending on which vr, and look in a mirror to see if your facial expressions have. though not all avatars have them.

[boreal kelp]

I remember someone saying "f*ggot" in the never have I ever world yesterday

[delicate ice]

yummy

[unkempt inlet]

I have a dell vr if that helps

[covert linden]

Its the exact same as I said

im getting the Rift S

[unkempt inlet]

Alright, also wdym by "Scrolling through them?"

[boreal kelp]

VRChat, it seems like you can get away with saying a lot of things that would get you banned or kicked in OW,Siege and other modern games

[ruby burrow]

If it's within your budget and PC specs, then naturally.

That was just because there was far too many unknown factors before May.

All the relevant info is out now, so now is the time.

[covert linden]

I prefer the Rift S, but thats because I dont have the roomm or money for the Valve, thats if I lived by myself and could mount sensors properly

[ruby burrow]

The only awkward part regarding the Index is the low supply and current long waiting time.

[boreal kelp]

That said... have people gotten in hot water in VRC for using slurs and certain unPC words, or does most of the community not care

[ruby burrow]

Currently yes, I believe.

[covert linden]

im sad because the Rift S isnt on amazon yet where I live, like its sold ouut

I mean its on there for 300$ more than it sells for

[ruby burrow]

@boreal kelp It's a self moderation kind of thing. If people don't like what someone says, they will mute or block them. VR-Chat itself has no real power to just listen in on thousands of conversations and magically police them.

[covert linden]

Does anyone know if you cnan remove the headphones off of the rift s?

[boreal kelp]

Cool

If I had a VR headset, I think I'd end up just using it for VRChat

[ruby burrow]

Obviously there's a limit. Abusive behaviour is still against VR-Chat's ToS, and if reported with relevant evidence, it's certainly still possible to be banned for that kind of thing.

[covert linden]

It does project sound, and some say the sound leaks, so its got something, I just wanna know if I can remove it and plop my own on.

[ruby burrow]

But it's something users would have to make happen, not staff or any automated system.

The Rift-S has small speakers in the sides of the strap just above your ear.

[covert linden]

Yeah I dont want that

Also my headphones are USB

[ruby burrow]

Simple and functional, but people have complained of them being a bit quiet, lacking bass, and bleeding sound to the room a little.

[covert linden]

I just wanna know if itd fit to hook up my usb headphones to my system, and then theyd fit on top or something

[ruby burrow]

Perfectly flat form factor though. Excellent for sleeping in VR perhaps? xD

I guess that's provided that the camera based tracking doesn't freak out when placed against an object.

I've never used WMR style tracking, so wouldn't know.

[covert linden]

I love the wmr personally

[ruby burrow]

Honestly the thing that stops me, is not wanting to damage my headset, and the fact that the FBT trackers have limited battery life.

[rigid crescent]

Just get stuck in a comfy pose as they die

[boreal kelp]

I use two headphones when in VRChat or streaming. A big headset for speaking into mic and a cheap pair of headphones I've had since 2011 for hearing audio

[covert linden]

I use a 90$ pair of headphones that vibrate :D

[rigid crescent]

Or join the battery pack master race

[ruby burrow]

I know one guy that actually killed three different Rifts by sleeping in VR all the time. >_>

[covert linden]

I knew someone who broke their rift, bought a new one, then refunded it and gave them back the broken one

[rigid crescent]

LOL

[boreal kelp]

I would just use the headset but the noise-cancelling function is a disadvantage for me

[ruby burrow]

Apparently had some absurdly good Norwegian return policy, meaning he never had to pay for the replacements.

[rigid crescent]

I'm still surprised Amazon gave me my vive for free tbh

And still lets me return stuff lol

Returned a webcam and Leap Motion a few days ago and they paid me as soon as the packages were scanned at the FedEx place

Even though last time with a cable I had to wait til it got there

Iunno I've never had service screw anything up

[covert linden]

yknow what sucks, I think its ups

[rigid crescent]

I think so though.

[covert linden]

either ups or usps, either one, I forget which, IS TERRIBLE

[rigid crescent]

Yeah UPS is the one I hear bad a stuff about

[covert linden]

UPS, ok, I bought a pc from my friend, 40$ usd shipping, suddenly at the border they charged another 100$ for customs, unwarned and out of nowhere. They also dismanteled the pc..

And I had someone else mail me through ups and same thing, except it was much smaller and lighter, still 100$ customs OUT of nowhere, DAYS after the initial payment

[tidal onyx]

rip

[covert linden]

They dont warn you, and force you to pay it after its already been a day or two. its terrib.e.

[tidal onyx]

fill out customs yourself and it wont be expensive

[covert linden]

or literally ship with ANY other company and they dont do that...

[tacit plank]

After recieving the PC, you could do a chargeback on the customs fee?

Probably a bad idea, but fuck those people lol

[fathom swan]

Vive arrives t minus 5 hours bois

[covert linden]

it was months ago, nothing I can really do now :c

[boreal kelp]

Amazon has some perks that sound nice.. but I still like eBay since you don't see pictures in an Amazon seller's item description

[covert linden]

Ebay is all used tech

its not "only a hundred" this is canadian dollar. 100 is a lot.

[rigid crescent]

Like 5 grand USD

[covert linden]

Basically

[rigid crescent]

Their money is like starburst wrappers, less useful than toilet paper lol

[covert linden]

see that 100$ is valuable to me, becaues I work a lot, and get barely any pay. sooo it was very sad.

Amazon is all new stuff, ebay is all Used, and I dont like buying used tech.

[inner cape]

just 100

who said that

[tidal onyx]

ebay is not all used

[covert linden]

There arent new jobs in my area

majority of ebay is used, maybe not 100% but like, a lot

Like, I work fast food, and Im about to be a HS graduate, only places thatll hire me where I am, are other low paying shit jobs, like retail, or fast food

[tidal onyx]

simply check the filters

[boreal kelp]

eBay sellers having images of the item feels more assuring to me

[covert linden]

amazon has images of the item

I dont have my license

[tacit plank]

Hey catfish, there's another version of your profile picture

The full version, so to speak

[covert linden]

Then how am I gonna get there?

[boreal kelp]

One thing I won't go for with eBay is CRT TV

screw that shipping when I can go look at Goodwill or a thrift store

[covert linden]

Theres not really like, jobs like that in my area, Im looking it up now. The ones that there are, are risky.

id rather get shit pay, than a shit job also :P

https://www.amazon.ca/Oculus-Quest-All-Gaming-Headset/dp/B07PRDGYTW/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=oculus&qid=1559324369&s=gateway&sr=8-1
Though Catfish, Amazon DOES have images...

[boreal kelp]

@tacit plank someone's a possible lolicon

[covert linden]

Fast food is a shit job and tis terrible on my mental health, but im hoping that when I switch to retail ill like it better

Ill definately prefer it, as I wont have to be cleaaaning so much naasty food

[tacit plank]

I'd say that two people possibly are

[ionic ravine]

w2b vr friends

[tacit plank]

You've been writing for a while catfish lmao

[boreal kelp]

One of the jobs I worked prior to going on disability was a third-shift stocking position at a Kroger back in late 2014. While I was not much for cleaning or buffing the aisle floors, I didn't have to worry about helping customers until maybe 5 AM or so.

Unfortunately seasonal jobs have a significant turnover rate and I was let go after a month.

Either they didn't like that I was slower because I would take time to reach into the back of store shelves to bring items that had been sitting for weeks up to front or that I was listening to music while I worked

I could say the same about temp/contract jobs.

First temp job I had, I'll admit my work ethic needed improvement and that I probably shouldn't have stayed up a little bit more late the previous night just to watch anime.

Second temp job though, I think they were too strict or something. Criticized me for asking too many work questions during first two days and having to "baby" me. Nothing in my opinion with letting employers know where you're going, even if it's just the bathroom

Also some people like do need a little direction during first few days

[fathom swan]

vive just came bois

am i cool now

[slender barn]

Bruh

yes

[rigid crescent]

Not til you have full body

[vocal shard]

And wireless

[tribal oxide]

Full body for 10 dollars with kinect

[vocal shard]

Regular full body users are plebs

[tribal oxide]

dab

[vocal shard]

To be a cool kid you need to have full body and wireless

[tribal oxide]

I have wireless magic

In a way.

[rigid crescent]

Yknow I was gonna say something but I erased it

For the good of the planet

[tribal oxide]

oh

[languid beacon]

I’m considering doing quest running PC vrchat via Vridge and then hybrid with vive trackers

If that ends up being possible

[tribal oxide]

Fascinating.

[vocal shard]

It should be

[languid beacon]

Right now touch2 controllers are seen as vive wands via Vridge and that needs to just not.

Shouldn’t be hard since it’s the same controllers as Rift S

[drifting ibex]

any word on when the next release would be? I would really like to see the fix for this be live: https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/endless-pitch-black-loading-loop

[covert linden]

I was told when you connect it to the pc,it gets laaggy

[languid beacon]

Shouldn’t be any more laggy than vive pro wireless adapter. Same resolution

[delicate perch]

Rift S? ewwww

[languid beacon]

Talking about quest actually

It just has identical interchangeable controllers with Rift S

[delicate perch]

oh, quest is great for portability

[languid beacon]

I’m talking about using it for SteamVR

[delicate perch]

can you? isnt it its own thing?

[languid beacon]

It is its own thing but it can have sideloaded apps

[vocal shard]

It is. But people already figured out how to stream it to steamvr.

[languid beacon]

I’m hoping a side loaded thing like open compositor could get something pumped in viabthe quest’s USB3 port but that might be impossible

[delicate perch]

coolies 😄

[covert linden]

It willl likely be laggy.

The rift S isnt ew at all, the rift S is awesome

[languid beacon]

For now it’s wirelessly transmitted

[vocal shard]

People already got beatsaber mods working too on the stand alone version. It's only been out for a week. Lol

[covert linden]

Im Im getting the Rift S very soon

[meager solstice]

My opinion rift s shouldn’t have been named rift s

[covert linden]

Its better than the OG rift Tbh

[delicate perch]

Rift S is like a iPhoneS, get it if you dont have a HMD, but dont get it as an upgrade

[covert linden]

imo not tbh ***

Im selling my Rift for the Rift S, because Imo the Rift S is better and ill like it much more

[delicate perch]

lower refreash for a little more FOV?

[covert linden]

people say they dont notice that at all, its got instant roomscale, great tracking compared to 3 sensor rift tracking, and higher Res

[languid beacon]

Rift S is objectively better than rift in terms of screen, if you use Rift with SPUD on already

[vocal shard]

Max, I'd recommend checking out some recent reviews and user experiences on Reddit of those moving from CV1 to rift S. Most feel after using it that it is an upgrade

[delicate perch]

ive tried the Rift S, i personally like the orginal

[languid beacon]

Rift S does not compare to rift with SPUD disabled

[delicate perch]

i dont like the new contollers and lost of tracking

[vocal shard]

And the refresh is a bit lower, but the screen persistence is lower and faster switch. In the end it evens out

[delicate perch]

not saying its bad, just "to me" not worth upgrading yet

[covert linden]

wthe controllers are basically the same and the tracking is almost flawless, Did you use an early version?

I saw someone playing in vrchat with it, they showed me all they could do and they didnt lose tracking a single time.

[delicate perch]

i have a HM that works, so all good for now

[vocal shard]

Oh for sure. It's not a need to buy upgrade. I'm keeping my odyssey. But for anyone looking for a headset, it's not bad

[languid beacon]

I will take true blacks over higher res ANY DAY

[delicate perch]

and ive said that, if its your first HMD, then sure go for it

[covert linden]

Itll be my third HMD, its reccomended in general not for just a first one.

Its all personal prefrence but the reviews on it are super good

[vocal shard]

I've heard a few Vive users moving to the Rift S and praising it

It's preference really

[covert linden]

Yeah the guy I was talking about, owned a vive previously, prefers Rift S and sold his vive

He said
CreeperToday at 7:37 PM
First off, IPD adjustment is way better.
Secondly, I can actually use my glasses with it
Third, Headphones fit snugly on it
Fourth, The headset itself is cozy as heck
Fifth, The tracking's way better than i thought it'd be, and i can actually reach behind myself a bit.
Sixth, Guardian. It's so great because i press a button, and bam i can see my room, and walk around.
Seventh, Controllers feel great and natural, unlike with the vive controllers where i feel like i'm holding two big sticks
8th, Don't even notice the Refresh rate change from 90 to 80, It still feels smooth and cozy.
And finally, No base stations to set up.
A compliment on the oculus S ^

[delicate perch]

tbh a HMD is a HMD, i want the Rift 2.0, eye tracking, mouth tracking, 200+ FOV, body tracking, hand tracking, no controllers

[languid beacon]

Rift S is a fine headset I just don’t recommend it at all. It’s not bad it’s just least.

[vocal shard]

We all do

[delicate perch]

until then, its just "meh" to me

[meager solstice]

Now, I don’t see why a vive user would go to rift s

[delicate perch]

even the index, im so meh

[covert linden]

he preferred the rift S for all the reasons I stated.

[languid beacon]

I’d still recommend rift S over classic vive

[delicate perch]

i waited 6 years for my Rift CV1, i can wait 6 more for Rift 2.0

[languid beacon]

That’s bout it

[covert linden]

I have the oculus rift, I dislike it tbh

[vocal shard]

Screen is sharper than Vive pro. Inside out tracking is something some prefer. Many find the halo headstrap more comfortable

[languid beacon]

No one should buy into 1.0 lighthouse tracking

[delicate perch]

a HMD is impo i very personal choice, everyone likes the one they like

[covert linden]

instant roomscale is what sold me, I adore my wmr so im upgrading for the RES and yknow.. finger tracking!

[delicate perch]

i even tell my friends, test them all out, i wont push you in any direction, its something your gonna wear a lot and you want to be 100% comfy

[vocal shard]

Right. Why I say to get info from as many people as possible when people are looking. Everyone is a bit bias even if they think they aren't

[covert linden]

I push my friends to rift S now xD

they all got rift cuz of me tho ages back

[languid beacon]

Yeah I’m in love with full body and am going for Index to unify my setup under a single tracking system

[delicate perch]

as HMD is like a pair of underwear, everyone has their personal choice

[covert linden]

yknow or like.. a shirt....

[languid beacon]

classic rift is the best though, and I’m still undecided if I can handle a non-OLED headset

[delicate perch]

im with you there, i like the o-led

[languid beacon]

Make sure you disable spud or you aren’t even seeing it’s full potential

[vocal shard]

I really don't like my CV1 screen tbh, and much prefer the visuals on my LCD Lenovo. But again, to preference.

[languid beacon]

Did you try with spud off? Rift on default settings is barely any better than an LCD screen

[covert linden]

I dislike my rift due to sensor tracking. I cannot stand sensors especially when I cant afford extendors, or wall adhesives..

[delicate perch]

spud????

[languid beacon]

Yeah by default rift does not do true blacks

It’s brighter like an LCD

Even when full black

[vocal shard]

The mura is something that really bothers me with some OLED headsets. The small differences in the pixel colours.

[delicate perch]

so what is spud?

[languid beacon]

You have to add UseSpud to regedit with a value of 0 then next boot rift will use true OLED blacks (black = no light)

You get insane contrast

[vocal shard]

Nice

[languid beacon]

Looks less like things are made of light

Feels more real

[north rock]

...So if whatever this setting is comes down to a reg edit and is an objectively superior viewing experience, why does the Oculus software not add an option to enable it, let alone enable it by default?

[languid beacon]

If you own a Classic rift you owe t to yourself to at least try it

Excellent question

[vocal shard]

They keep it from going true black to prevent pixel smearing

[north rock]

I never go digging in the registry but I know that it's a very simple addition to make for software.

Pixel smearing?

[languid beacon]

Oled screens are hard to manufacture and have flaws which become visible on low pixel values. Using spud hides screen flaws

But your panels MiGHT be perfect

[vocal shard]

It's something my DK2 and Odyssey have. They go true black and black areas smear as the pixels turn back on and are changing colours. The Vive and Rift keep them a dark gray, but not off so they don't smear as they change colour from black

[languid beacon]

I did not get black smear on my cv1. My rdk2 needed spud to remove it

[delicate perch]

from what im seeing, its better to have it on it was a problem with the first wave of Rifts but was fixxed in the following waves with software and a few hardware changes

[languid beacon]

Your rift might not need spud and you’d never know til you try

It looks better BUT will show flaws if you have them

[north rock]

I don't even think I can picture what this "pixel smearing" is, but it sounds like it's worth a try. I seriously hate going into registry, though.

[delicate perch]

my blacks seem black and my colors seem fine, idk, i would just leave it

[languid beacon]

You can always just turn it back on

[delicate perch]

ive seen it when i am on Second Life VR

[north rock]

All I need is for the Oculus software to throw a fit because some tiny little modification was made in the registry

[delicate perch]

and its literally like it sounds

[languid beacon]

Nah it’s just a single DWORD in regedit you wont break anything

[delicate perch]

same

"If it aint broken, dont fix it."

[languid beacon]

Well. If you are used to rift with SPUD I will say I would not worry about moving to a LCD headset. Any benifit of oled are lost with spud anyway

[north rock]

Hearing stuff like this makes me wonder just how many tweaks and modifications people make without actually disseminating that knowledge to anyone. I've owned my Rift for a year and a half now and have never seen any suggestion like that.

[delicate perch]

same, and ive owned mine since it came out

[north rock]

There are plenty of those "tips and tricks" articles and videos online but they're just about always common sense stuff. With nice little things like this, I sometimes feel like people are deliberately insular about it. Why is this kind of stuff not recommended to everyone?

Even if it's not meant for everyone, it's stuff that every HMD owner should have at their disposal, if you ask me.

[delicate perch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[languid beacon]

Well this was big news when cv1 came out

It just kinda died out over the years

I guess at some point people just assume things are common knowledge

Everyone in my vrc group knew about it

The million dollar question is can it be disabled easily on Quest

[ruby burrow]

Never heard of it myself, although I don't own a Rift.

[slender barn]

Any way to reset my seated/standing position status in VRChat? For a long time now it's been putting me into standing play when I switch to seated and vice versa.

[vocal shard]

Pretty sure that’s got something to do with how your playspace is set up

[slender barn]

Alright, I'll check that out. Thank you. =)

[vocal shard]

Is your height in the in game setting set correctly

[slender barn]

Yep, but I think I recall now my play space being weirded out because I was standing up as it was checking my height. Not 100% sure what happened, but I remember it was making me duck down in my Oculus home.

[north rock]

Mine's the opposite if I understand you correctly. Every time I open up the Oculus hotbar/menu thing, it's situated at head level when it's supposed to be at waist level. Redoing the sensor setup didn't seem to help. It's been that way for months now.

[delicate perch]

steamvr needs better settings, i always have to use AdvSettings to fix everything

an external addon

[languid beacon]

What did you need to fix maxwell

I personally uninstalled advanced settings it was randomly frame limiting me

[void swallow]

This was interesting. Saw these on my login today
http://puu.sh/DzWHy.png
reported both already

[ruby needle]

thats.... and interesting one

[rigid crescent]

Lol that's spoopy

[vocal shard]

Someone else complained about the same thing. They must be friending a bunch of people to do that to them

[waxen schooner]

hi im new here is there a chance i can get to be annoying and ask for some techsupport 😄

[vocal shard]

Feel free to ask in #user-support-old

[waxen schooner]

thanks a lot i will try there instead

[ember arch]

Tupperware

[vocal shard]

Best dll

[sharp oracle]

Yesss finally my vr is set up

[runic acorn]

have fun !!

[lime pagoda]

Oh. Quick question. Generally speaking what do you have to do to get the hold on upload lifted?

I probably should have checked that out before I spent a day making an avatar.

Also, quest version is rad.

woweewowow

[ruby needle]

Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.

You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.

Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.

http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

[slate verge]

theres a ranking system, you'll know when you'll be permitted

[lime pagoda]

Oof.

That's so long.

[vocal shard]

Not really

[slate verge]

well not exactly, the rank to upload stuff is just level 2 "New User"

[vocal shard]

I made a alt account to see how fast it would take me to get new user and i got it within 8 hours

[lime pagoda]

Oh, that's super reasonable.

Just walk around talk and make friends then.

[slate verge]

it varies for people keep that in mind, some others got it very fast

[lime pagoda]

Well, they probably pull from a few common variables.

[slate verge]

yes, that is correct. Make sure you aren't rude to them as it can get a whole lot better.

[lime pagoda]

Works for me.

[fathom swan]

I got new user within 5 hours after making some friends so idk

[vocal shard]

It is different for everyone. Some get it quick. I got it in about the same on my alt account

[slate verge]

yeah

[lunar shell]

Much easier to get to new user than known. 350 hours now.

[ruby needle]

Is's.... still not about time

¯_(ツ)_/¯

And besides beeing able to upload, doesnt really matter

[lunar shell]

Yes i know.

But time is taking forever either way for me.

[vocal shard]

why is it so hard to make friends in a social game

It's not?

Just talk to people

youre clearly a different person than me

"just talk to people"

That's what I said yes

homeless? just get a house. poor? just get money. lonely? just make friends

there is more to it than talking to people

Try to be interesting enough or enjoyable enough to talk to it's not hard to make friends once you find something you have in common with a person

its either you dont have social anxiety/anxiety in general or your just a god.

Both

cool, im glad you found a way to get over it. not that simple for me

I'm an extrovert and a people person so I don't understand social anxiety to a degree

then why did you say both

"its either you dont have social anxiety/anxiety in general or your just a god." Don't have anxiety and also a god

Hence why I said both

nvm

K

[rigid crescent]

"Why is it so hard to make friends in a social game."

"It's not."

"Yes it is, here's why."

It's so weird when people ask questions they know the answer to

[vocal shard]

^

[true sky]

Making friends isn't hard to do.

[vocal shard]

Crazy right

[true sky]

Only way it's hard is if you use avatars that get you blocked in almost every room

If someone blocks you straight out, then it's not you and it's probably someone who blocks non-trusted users 😉

[vocal shard]

Imagine not being trusted in 2019

[true sky]

[vocal shard]

[quaint radish]

You guys know any fun places to go in vr chat

kind of a noob.

[vocal shard]

Go to the box and turn off all safety settings

[quaint radish]

already did that

[vocal shard]

Good

[quaint radish]

I'm ready for everything thrown at me xd

[queen mango]

That's not a good place. From what I heard, and unsure if it's still true, but the world has quite a lot of less-than-favorable people there

[vocal shard]

That's the joke

[queen mango]

Ain't easy to notice for me.

[vocal shard]

[quick kayak]

You'll make friends just by joining a conversation others are having. if you have social anxiety and you joined a social game like VRC, it's mainly to get over that issue you're having, unless I'm being extremely ignorant right now.

[glossy wraith]

or maybe its to rp as some avatar in game

👀

[boreal kelp]

My next goal should be to approach a group and try to chill with them

[vocal shard]

That's good I guess

[boreal kelp]

I dunno if friends would apply until you exchange friend requests

[placid umbra]

👀

[vocal shard]

[boreal kelp]

If you wanna see them again or join them, I should say

[hybrid hare]

collapse time

a

[topaz lynx]

any (future) Valve Index users here?

[lunar shell]

Yes and saw the good news.

[slate verge]

i spot a Aev

[lunar shell]

Well controllers. I won't own the index hmd for a while.

[vast stag]

I would switch to valve index if it wasn't literally $1000 ;-;

[storm rune]

Pawsibbwee im sorry

[floral aspen]

Damn, finger tracking already ready for beta testing? Nice!

[lunar shell]

Yes wish it was cheaper. Should be $800 but still. All I need is another $500 so I'm getting it.

[urban jasper]

I'm going to get an Index eventually, but I'm gonna try to save a bit of cash and pick up a pair of Vive lighthouses if they're cheaper

[rough flax]

[vast stag]

I can physically afford one, or more, but doesn't mean I should when I already own a headset. Might think about switching when it drops in price later

[lunar shell]

I bet regular light houses become more available now and cheaper.

[urban jasper]

Well the Index works with the HTC Vive's lighthouses, so I wouldn't count on that

[vast stag]

Expect a bump in prices as demand for them goes up too

[tidal aspen]

they'll probably be used ones on the market now, but yeah I don't think the prices will go down

[urban jasper]

Yeah, from everyone with a Rift (like me) planning to do what I just said

[lunar shell]

Well I'm hoping some ditch their 1.0 light houses when they get their full index kit.

[urban jasper]

Even with that, it's going to be a while

[lunar shell]

Yeah.

[urban jasper]

I need to upgrade my GPU first before I do anything else

AND in the meantime find a solution for my borked audio on my Rift

[rough flax]

@tidal aspen :3

[lunar shell]

I need a new cpu. Vrchat takes so much.

[tidal aspen]

owo whats this

[vast stag]

You can build a vr capable pc with that kind of money, but if you are dedicated to get an index too, your budget now just doubled lol

[urban jasper]

IF I get the inheritance money I'm owed, I'll have enough for it and then some

but I have no idea how long that's going to take

[lunar shell]

Now it's amd vs intel. I might switch from Intel.

[empty pivot]

amd 3000 series cpus are pretty hyped up right now

so when those release either those will be in the right price range or the older series ones will drop in price

[lunar shell]

I would like something as faat as a 9700k.

[quick kayak]

AMD has been leading in price to performance since Ryzen came out, no business overpaying for Intel chips, their value is even less now with the 3000 series.

[boreal kelp]

When I think about it... I don't even know if my PC can do VR

[empty pivot]

ryzen 7 2700x compares to 9700k

[boreal kelp]

Socket B motherboard

[quick kayak]

New Ryzen 5 that'll be released soon is faster than a R7, for $200, so Imagine R7, or even R9s. lol

R7 Zen+ ofc, not Gen 2 which is the 3k series.

[lunar shell]

If I go amd I'm thinking I'll have more for an index then.

[coral cave]

im sad

oculus doesn't have support for index 😦

[empty pivot]

next pc i build is probably gonna be an amd 3000 series with a rtx 2080

[coral cave]

Hopefully third party github boys try to fix that issue

[quick kayak]

AMD is cheaper and the very small performance overhead Intel has is in single core performance and not by that much.

[uncut gorge]

Time to try this index controller beta

[quick kayak]

Ryzen 3k series has way better IPC, which is what Intel excels at.

[empty pivot]

intel abused their huge market share by not bothering to innovate their products very much

[gritty nacelle]

I am glad I preordered my controllers but I still have to wait before I get mine

[lunar shell]

Exactly.

[empty pivot]

but AMD did and now AMD stock is rising hella fast

[gritty nacelle]

I see no point in getting the headset just yet. Although I do hope they have a wireless version like the Vive does but until then I will stick with just the controllers

[quick kayak]

I'm a NVIDIA boy because I just like their stuff, but I'm super interested in seeing how good will AMD"s next gpu architecture will perform, specially when it's being made in collaboration with Sony people.

[gritty nacelle]

Ah don’t get me started on Sony, I feel like Sony has been going backwards on a few things

[quick kayak]

Like what?

We haven't fully been able to utilize Ryzen yet, since most software/games rely on Single Core performance, but a lot of the engines used are starting to lean towards multi threaded processes, which will be really good for Ryzen.

[gritty nacelle]

Hardware wise I am impressed though I am looking forward to seeing their next system, but at the same time when Nintendo is not nearly as censored as Sony is becoming nowadays there’s an issue

[verbal sapphire]

can someone help Me?

[gritty nacelle]

With what exactly growl?

[verbal sapphire]

i cant get my mic to work in game
at all but it detects

[quick kayak]

Ok lol. The censorship thing is ridiculous, the games being "censored" are on other platforms, just play it there. It's their platform, they can do it.

[ruby needle]

There is no need to ask in multiple channels @verbal sapphire

[empty pivot]

it detects your voice but people can't hear you?

[ruby needle]

Please don't continue this hre

[quick kayak]

Growl, make sure the mic is set to default and restart the game.

[verbal sapphire]

my bad

[ruby needle]

He's allready in a discussion over at #vrchat-general-1

Go there pls, no need to have it spread everywhere.

[quick kayak]

Yeah, there's a rules channel for a reason.

[gritty nacelle]

And Jay I definitely agree with you on that one but I find it ironic considering Nintendo was probably the most family friendly platform for years and now all of a sudden it’s like roles got reversed lol. Makes no sense to me

[queen mango]

You should probably continue this discussion in #general-media. As is for non-VRChat-related topics.

[gritty nacelle]

Although talking about system specs I made my pc I want to say around Labor Day last year and I’m using the rtx 1080 right now, I think I would still be good for the index and vrchat in general

[quick kayak]

Nintendo needs all the 3rd party help it can get, for years it's known as the first party console, you buy nintendo for their games, not to play other games. Sony is leading the market by a lot, even when putting Nintendo and Xbox together. I suppose they don't want to be another Steam, with all the crazy shit they got on the store. So far the censorship I've seen has been stupid, like a blur, or a light covering something, nothing that drastically changes your experience.

[willow ridge]

so anyone know the deal with club transcendia? should have started half an hour ago.

[paper sparrow]

<.< im legit about to teach myself 3d modeling in hopefully within a month just so i have personalized models to use with my 400 dollar system im getting after my birthday

[willow ridge]

oh wait nvrmd. in half an hour.

[covert linden]

"400 dollar system" good luck rendering any of that

[paper sparrow]

?

Im talking about the quest

[covert linden]

Oh lol I thougght you were gonna try modelling on a 400$ pc

[paper sparrow]

oh god no

[ruby needle]

400$ can get you something decent enogh

you'd be surprised.

[paper sparrow]

for vr?

[ruby needle]

for modelling

And some games but not VR

[paper sparrow]

im using a somewhat decent labtop

[covert linden]

P

[paper sparrow]

am i not able to post images here?

In any case i got a angelic cat character called quescat i want to turn into a avatar.

Both his cat form and a human form im gonna make up.

[lyric cairn]

Morning

[paper sparrow]

Night

[ornate obsidian]

midday

[uncut gorge]

Anyone who plans on getting Index controllers might want to look at this canny post. https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/201923-beta-continue-to-allow-us-to-override-gesture-animations-when-using-the-i

[vast marlin]

Just downloaded this to play with a friend but they abandoned me because they got alot of attention and they made fun of me for my microphone. Feels bad man.

[whole lodge]

Ouch. Some friends.

[uncut gorge]

Sounds like a shitty friend

[vast marlin]

It's probably because they have a cool voice and I sound like a boy and have a lisp. I can't really blame them because apparently they are popular in this game.

[whole lodge]

Yeah but they made fun of you.

[vast marlin]

I want to talk this is cool but my mic isn't good enough :/ I have a bad voice but I wouldnt think it'd matter. I'm just sitting rn in the game haha

[whole lodge]

If I was on. I'd nab ya and show you around.

Feel free to add me in game. IGN is Rukio. Just DM me your name and I'll PM you when I get on in about two hours.

[uncut gorge]

what mic are you using that's bad?

could just be bad settings on your end that are easily fixable

[vast marlin]

It is my headset microphone. It is late here.

[uncut gorge]

vive?

[vast marlin]

No sorry I'm just on the computer

[languid beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/511417163874172932/584240560731324466/unknown.png

https://i.imgflip.com/32e0gm.jpg

Can I please have this on Oculus too? I always play random emotes on public avatars, to the point where I can't wear them. Figity hands.

[vast marlin]

Everyone says my mic is bad but it isn't bad on discord. I will emote and maybe talk soft with it up

Is there a good cheap headset I can buy?

[quick kayak]

Discord has a few post processing effects for your mic, really good ones that basically don't degrade your quality. VRC just uses your unfiltered mic, which usually when it comes from a headset (not a VR headset) it has a lot of static and background noise, so to mitigate that, lower your mic volume as lot as possible and put the mic as close as you can to your mouth, just not too close so you sound clear and loud, without picking up all the static and bg noise.

[languid beacon]

Discord does a lot of magic to clean up bad mics, nothing else does though. record yourself in audacity (or any recording program) to hear your true mic

hi5 callmejay360

[quick kayak]

Bottom right, right click on the Speaker Icon, go to Sounds, go to the recording tab, double click on your mic and you can check a box to hear yourself, then go to levels and lower that enough to where it sounds good and move the mic closer to your mouth so you sound good, just not ear rape loud.

[whole lodge]

Steel series is normally decent and cheap

[quick kayak]

Also hihi.

[vast marlin]

It's ok I am quiet anyway I turned it down alot.

[quick kayak]

Yeah, some headsets come with their own noise cancelling, best headsets for "clean" audio is wireless headsets. Look online for a dedicated usb mic, a few really good quality ones go for cheap (less than $100). Also, if a "friend" is making you look bad to the point their making fun of you publicly for something so mundane as bad mic, instead of helping you fix it, don't even bother hanging with people like that.

[vast marlin]

They are the only friend I've talked to recently.

[quick kayak]

VR Chat is a big fish tank, huge tank, filled with all kinds of fishes, you'll find plenty of others to hang out with and such.

Don't force yourself to hang out and/or deal with bad people who don't care.

[vast marlin]

What are good worlds?

[whole lodge]

Depends on what you want

[quick kayak]

Any, it's not the world that makes your interaction with people good, or bad, it's simply time and place. Sometimes you'll find nice people, sometimes you won't.

[vast marlin]

Ok I've gone to a few more

I don't know maybe it is not for me

I wish I had vr so I could just mime

[languid beacon]

ok it's confirmed, buying Valve Index instead of Quest

[vocal shard]

Lol. Those controllers finally won you over

[atomic tusk]

I pre-ordered the knuckles right when it went up

[meager solstice]

valve index controllers should win everyone over

except for the price

only downside

but ill be getting the index as well

[vocal shard]

I can't because price, and because Canada

[meager solstice]

big rip

i also dont like how its a limited country release

[tribal oxide]

Don't worry, because I am here now!

I don't hab money, I change my mind, I can't help

[vocal shard]

[vast marlin]

I am going back to the server where my friend is maybe they are done talking to the mean people

[vocal shard]

Ok

[cobalt salmon]

hey i need immediate technical help about the game, can anyone help me?

[vocal shard]

Ask away

[tribal oxide]

🍔

[cobalt salmon]

When I start up vrchat right away the background is an orangish pink like if it was untextured, and when i join a different world it is usually all orangish pink or parts of it like a mirror or some of the avatars. Ive uninstalled and reinstalled and also cleared cache. idk what else to do

It is just unplayable

[vocal shard]

are your gpu drivers up to date

[cobalt salmon]

yeah

actually idk, how do u check?

i have pictures if u dont no what it looks like

[queen mango]

You could check your Nvidia GPU drivers in the Nvidia GeForce Experience.app.

[tribal oxide]

😓

Goodnight

[queen mango]

G'night

[vast marlin]

Ok I talked to someone nice! Had fun.

They said my mic wasn't bad

Most people were mean

[uncut gorge]

https://vrchat.canny.io/open-beta/p/785-201923-beta-default-animations-for-index-users-looks-unnatural-on-several-mo

[weary radish]

Anyone know where the hell i can get full body trackers?

[vocal shard]

^^^^^

for cheap, too?

[uncut gorge]

amazon

[placid zealot]

If you're in America try Amazon.

[uncut gorge]

HTC also sells them

direct from HTC can take a few days though

[coarse rose]

anyone know where to find an avatar with hairbrush, like asmr one?

[obsidian herald]

Microcenter has Trackers but no Trackbelt/Strap

[earnest harbor]

Bah who uses,the straps? Use tape like everyone else :P

[lunar shell]

Or screw them into old shoes.

[coarse rose]

superglue to your clothes

[vocal shard]

hi

[bronze swift]

so they are fixing the black screen on world load right?

[barren bramble]

yo

[rigid crescent]

no they're leaving it there forever

[bronze swift]

honestly feels that way lmao

[blazing anchor]

where do i submit a bug report? i did something by accident while my friend was trying to help me with an animation i was working on. lets just say, because of adding one component to a basic world object, when i loaded into the avatar in-game, everyone crashed in the room, including myself.

i wont go into any further detail.

untill i know where to properly report

lets just say its an easy mistake and a big problem if an avatar like this were to go public

and its too fucking easy to doo i did it by fucking accident

seriously, trust me when i say thi is verry bad. they need to know.

[pale hull]

on the vrc canny

[still lark]

or email at [e-mail]

[zealous agate]

I have a problem when launching and playing VRChat, first when I launch VRChat, it doesn't launch in full screen. Second, the game's menu is so unresponsive that I have to wait like 3 seconds after clicking something for it to actually click the thing. Third, my mouse goes all over the place and it's completely impossible to control the camera properly. I'm in desktop mode since I don't have any VR headset

[slate verge]

is there another way to check which worlds i've been to besides checking the recent list in-game?

@zealous agate you need a pretty strong computer to run vrchat according to those descriptions. When you launch vrchat through steam, hold shift and open it from the steam library and then there will be the option to make it start as full screen.

[zealous agate]

my computer is not the problem for sure, it ran just fine some months ago, but now it's buggy and laggy as heck

[slate verge]

thats oddd

[lost cobalt]

@zealous agate try check your graphic settings, I had same issue until i switched to desktoplow mode in the unity settings

[zealous agate]

well even when holding shift, if directly launches the game

[lost cobalt]

That is weird, you sure you holding shift before the game window are opening?

[zealous agate]

will try

oh okay that's how you do it, thanks

[lost cobalt]

@zealous agate no problem, let me know if it works 😄

[zealous agate]

okay, it's fullscreen now, but the game is still unresponsive, any input I make takes forever to be seen in-game

it's not real lag, like it runs at okay FPS, it's really just my inputs that are always 2 to 5 seconds late, which makes it impossible to play

[lost cobalt]

so it is the input that is delayed?

well i dont know any fix for that :c

[spare timber]

yo guys. is ik working again after last update?

[runic acorn]

hey anyone know what's called the music at "Rest and Sleep" world by Loli ?

[zealous agate]

thanks anyways for the help, I know how to fullscreen now at least

[still lark]

@tranquil basin In Open Beta, yeah, probably.

I haven't tested it myself

But chances are they're fixed.

🤔

[craggy valve]

eeeyy congrats to me i got a vive now

[north axle]

Congrats.

[vocal shard]

So, anyone find VRChat changing their mannerisms irl?
I find that I gesture more irl now.
After using Oculus touch for a while, I also wave with my pinky and ring fingers closed as if trying to hold the controllers.
After using WMR, I tend to swing my hands at my sides irl and glance where I'm reaching as if trying to keep tracking.

It's funny how stuff like that can have an effect on you irl

[covert linden]

What happened to the ik open beta? Are we now just gonna not have anything fixed?

Thats not happening.

Because the ipad isnt designed for games like that for one and two because this is vrchat not tapchat

[vocal shard]

It would need a completely new build of the game, and it's not worth it for them when they have so many other things to work on already. Also it's not the audience they are targeting

[median lake]

If I wanted to report a malicious user, and definitely get something done about it, not lost in an endless sea, where can I report it?
I don't want to just report it, I want to make sure it's seen and heard.

[covert linden]

@median lake #moderation-reports

[vocal shard]

Email is the most direct way to report

[median lake]

I missed that one, was covered by the... banner?

[e-mail], right?

[vocal shard]

The channel is instructions. Not a place to report

Yeah

[median lake]

Excellent, thank you.

[vocal shard]

[tribal oxide]

Morning

[quick kayak]

@vocal shard I don't have that effect with gestures, but being a long time Rainbow Six player, I sometimes spot cameras and shoot them (in my head) out of instinct and laugh at myself.

[vocal shard]

omg

[sinful matrix]

OMG, someone stoled my personal avatar with a program to steal everything whats on the model. My personal model was personally made for me and it was private private avatar so that no one can clone it. It was a Rias Gremory model what i am using with streaming goddammit best thing to do? I already blocked him and report it him with Avatar + Stolen.

[inner cape]

if you have footage, send that over

[ruby needle]

Yes, please make moderation report including all prove you have

http://help.vrchat.com/new

[inner cape]

fpaul you got it

yo wait a minute

thats new

[sinful matrix]

Alright i am already doing that. @ruby needle Got 3 screenshots 1 with the name from the person that you see the avatar where he was in the Rias Gremory that was stolen the other 2 screenshots prove that i am walking in that model + the avatar list that is in my personal list.

[ruby needle]

👌

include the output log too

[sinful matrix]

Contacted my avatar maker also he did change the ID from the avatar now.

output log?

What is that the output log?

[glossy wraith]

who steals avatar lol

and why are avatar made personal 🤔

[sinful matrix]

I got already him in 1 screenshot that you can see who did steal it.

[boreal kelp]

Whatever happened to the #tutorials channel

[sinful matrix]

Alright Ticket is done😄

[hollow breach]

@glossy wraith a lot of people steal

And I have a personal avatar, don’t want anyone else taking it

[boreal kelp]

It even mentions in the Discord faq that there is a tutorials channel

[tribal oxide]

I'm here again

[boreal kelp]

I probably won't be able to VRChat until tonight

[tribal oxide]

Oof

[fathom swan]

What’s with people using annoying as fuck gestures today’s

[boreal kelp]

Are you referring to gestures with loud music and too many particle effects?

[atomic tusk]

don't use future proofing when uploading avatars

it make it harder to have your stuff stolen

[boreal kelp]

How do you disable futureproofing in the current VRC SDK

[ruby needle]

the same way as always

untick the setting in the sdk's settings

[kindred briar]

[vocal shard]

[odd siren]

Okay, sound is just refusing to play for me no matter what

[ruby needle]

Maybe a windows setting?

[odd siren]

I dont think that could be it, cause it works in every other app, but not VRChat

[kindred briar]

Your headphones have to be set as defsult device

In the sound settings of windows

[odd siren]

ahh

so i need to do that for my bluetooth headphones?

cause thats what I use

[kindred briar]

Yes. Since vrchat uses the default audio device

https://www.plantronics.com/ro/ro/support/knowledge-base/kb-article-page?type=How_To__kav&lang=en_US&urlName=Computer-Headsets-How-to-Set-the-Headset-as-the-Default-Audio-Device&t=All&k=.Audio%2520326

[atomic tusk]

they can still get your avatar ID and clone your avatar but they won't be able to get the actual files with you future proofing

[pastel galleon]

So they can't do anything either way

[odd siren]

okay... but checking my thing my headphones automatically get set as the default device

let me try reconnecting them

[boreal kelp]

How much harder is it to create a world compared to an avatar?

[modern sand]

Depends on the complexity of the world !

I uploaded 100+ avatars and I thought I knew everything, then I tried to make my own world and I realized I knew nothing

We have good documentation, great tutorials made by the community and a ton of people ready to help if you've got a question or a problem

So you should absolutely try if you want to

[boreal kelp]

I might look into it one day

[small wing]

I only just found out about deferred script overhead thanks to Ruuubick. Avatar world's are a bit more complicated when it comes to optimization, but only really because its something new that you pretty much have to learn again.

As long as you know how occlusion culling, light baking, and OnNetworkReady triggers work then you should be fine.

Start simple, work up from there.

Or do what I did when I first started and keep everything hidden under a trigger to be turned on after joining the room.

[odd siren]

okay i restarted my computer, downloaded driver updates, repaired my bluetooth headphones, nothing.

It straight up doesnt want to work.

[small wing]

Do you have voicemeeter installed?

Also do you have window's 10?

[odd siren]

i am on windows 10

[quick kayak]

Majority of the time when you "make" an avatar, you're taking a base and working on it, whereas when you build a world, more times than ton you're doing it from scratch, it's it's entirely different than making a model.

[odd siren]

also voicemeeter?

[vast marlin]

Yay I finally had a nice convo!

[small wing]

There is an option in there when you click on your speaker icon in the bottom right called Window's sonic for headphones, turn that off.

If you don't know what voicemeeter is then its probably not that.

[odd siren]

Yeah, I dont know what voicemeeter is

[small wing]

If you had voicemeeter installed however there was issues I had myself where it was muting my game

Lot's of weird audio issues

[odd siren]

The sound works on the title screen, but the second I get ingame into the startup world, it stops

[small wing]

Using a default avatar?

[odd siren]

no, custom one.

[small wing]

Switch out to a default one and relaunch your game, tell me if that fixes it.

Could be something bugged out with the avatar you are using, there is things that can be done on an audio source on an avatar that can mute everything.

[odd siren]

alright, give me a sec

[small wing]

Something might be related to that. Also if so please report the ID to moderation, that is malicious.

[odd siren]

This was made way back in the earlier days of VRChat (the avatar I mean) so it could just be that outdated

[small wing]

If it's 5.6.3p1 then you might wan't to find / make a more up to date version.

lot's of things might have broke.

[odd siren]

Yeah its before that so I'll switch to a default one and see if that works

Okay so I picked one that... to me looks like Peko from Danganronpa 2 even though its one of the first public ones I saw in the hub world

Hopefully this works

[small wing]

Make sure to restart your game after switching to a default avatar

[odd siren]

I did

getting back ingame now

should I be hearing music in the Home area or anything?

Okay yeah no its still not working

It doesnt pick up my mic at all either, even though my computer picks it up fine normally

and its literally just VRChat. I am so confused

[primal oak]

https://i.gyazo.com/8bc928b0f6741cc5fc4f930acd5942b6.png

Lots of posts at canny marked as "In Progress". Go dev team

[bronze cape]

Does VRChat support surround sound? Got some new headphones on the way, sure would be nice to get proper use out of them

[ruby needle]

it does (positional audio at least)

Did you get multi speaker surround headphones by any chance?

[bronze cape]

Logitech G533, apparently 7.1 DTS

[ruby needle]

so normal modulation based surround

[bronze cape]

Bit of an upgrade over my decade old Turtle Beach X11

[ruby needle]

i dunno how good the positional audio works outside of VR tho

[bronze cape]

I bought them specifically for VR, so that doesn't matter too much to me, but according to reviews it's pretty damn good

The main reason for the update is that these are wireless with a dongle, whereas my current headphones uses three cables. Combine that with the vr headset cables and things start to get ridiculous.

[ruby needle]

which VR do you have?

[bronze cape]

Lenovo Explorer

[ruby needle]

i see

[bronze cape]

So hdmi and usb3.1

And you know, nothing built in except a single 3.5mm jack which really isn't good for mic quality in VRChat

[north rock]

I'd take a 3.5mm jack over my Rift's rather laughable quality

[ruby needle]

which rift?

the Original Rifts speakers and mic are very good.

[north rock]

CV1, the mic on it sounds like garbage compared to other Rift owners', in my opinion

Feel likeI got a faulty one

[ruby needle]

i heard there have been bad production runs

that sound worse

[north rock]

I've read in the past that, yeah, there wasn't particularly great quality control on the mics

Ticks me off quite a bit honestly

Sounds even worse than my Modmic 3.0, which also sounds worse than the typical for some damned reason

I just can't win with microphones

[ruby needle]

its sad

cus the original mic is absolutely great

[north rock]

This one is passable at best

Need to get someone to record me in VR sometime just for a side-by-side comparison

[thorny delta]

anyone else getting booted to home

[vocal shard]

That's optimistic

Just use a vpn and all those problems go away

It solves being booted offline

And a lot of other connection errors

Which is a pretty common issue in this game

[modern sand]

@mental sundial #vrchat-videos

[mental sundial]

Right sorry xD

[slate verge]

whats with people and head pats obsession sheesh

[meager solstice]

Head pats make the vr world go round

Could possibly be monetized one day and turned into a form of currency

[vocal shard]

Headpats as a form of currency? Genius idea. Time to open a headpad currency exchange https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/337679085599850499/529972544720207886

[edgy timber]

Hey guys brand new to vrchat here

Just wanted to know if I can play the game without a vr headset

Or will I not get the full experience

[meager solstice]

@edgy timber many players play in desktop

its a game meant for vr and desktop users

[edgy timber]

Ahhhh gotcha

What’s a good vrheadset that won’t break the bank

[meager solstice]

probably oculus rift s

its 400$ but it more depends on if ur pc can run it

[quick kayak]

Check you have a decent rig first for it, Oculus Rift S is the best headset for the price, ASW will help with GPU load, but if the game requires heavy threading, you need a good cpu for it too.

Launch VRC on normal desktop mode and see how your cpu handles it.

[languid beacon]

I would wait. Oculus Quest has better resolution has Rift S, better screens, and is wireless. In a few months, people will make it work for SteamVR games flawlessly as well, then you have a dual PCVR/Standalone headset.

[quick kayak]

By flawlessly you mean streaming to it.

[vocal shard]

Rift S is clearer though. People who use both say the Rift S is sharper and looks better while the quest has better blacks

[languid beacon]

Works just as well as Vive Pro's wireless

[vocal shard]

But if they perfect the quest's streaming 👌

[quick kayak]

Rift S is sharper overall thanks to it being LCD, the Quest has the same pentile oled thing.

[languid beacon]

Yeah, that's always going to be personal preference For me, higher resolution + true blacks + some SDE > lower resolution, greyer blacks, better fill rate

[quick kayak]

Vive controllers don't use gestures like the touch controllers do, are the methods of streaming steam to the quest support touch controller gestures?

Resolution is the same on both, is it not?

[languid beacon]

No. Quest has same res as Vive Pro / Index

Rift S's is lower

better than rift still though

someone'll grab the numbers i'm in vr

[vocal shard]

Rift S is "lower resolution", but RGB so each pixel can make any color, while the Quest alternates a subpixel colour every time. So red and blue are half the stated resolution, and it takes 2 pixels to make some colours

[languid beacon]

yup. I know how that works.. I still say truer blacks are worth it. I can't even stand my rift with Spud on, I def can't stand a LCD screen

that's why Index has me sad rn

[vocal shard]

When it comes to subpixel count. The rift S is higher with 5.5 million per eye while the quest is 4.6 milion

[quick kayak]

I don't think the way streaming is done through the quest will ever be as good as using hardware that directly talks to another set of hardware like the one used for vive headsets and oh rift.

[languid beacon]

true, BUT I think the quest streaming will still look better than a classic rift

I'll know soon

As soon as best buy stops being sold out

[quick kayak]

That's obvs, the resolution is way higher, but you'll still have artifacting and pixelation on it because it's being done through wifi.

[languid beacon]

Does Vive Pro's wireless adaptor have artifacting?

[quick kayak]

Comparing it to the Rift S though, Rift S will win.

Not sure if it does, but it does degrade image quality/clarity.

[languid beacon]

Well, my main goal with Quest streaming is cheap wireless fullbody

I already have hybrid anyway

cheaper than a vive + wireless adaptor

[quick kayak]

Your GPU is going to have a lot to do lol. rendering whatever game you're playing at the amount of fps it's asking for, plus encoding that for the quest.

I'm sure it'll still look good and the artifacting won't be intrusive

[languid beacon]

Ha, I mostly care about what other people see. Network IK bothers me more than wifi streaming ever will.

[vocal shard]

Rift S vs Vive pro and Odyssey. Just as far as lower resolution RGB vs higher resolution Pentile clarity
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470067774551621644/584563857578524693/Screenshot_20190517-115439.png

[quick kayak]

Network IK is still on it's early stages, you'd be naïve if you thought it would be flawless when they implemented it.

[languid beacon]

If I thought it was hopeless I wouldn't be still putting money into this hobby 😛

[quick kayak]

So you only have VR just for VR Chat?

[languid beacon]

Basically, yeah

[vocal shard]

[quick kayak]

I see.

[vocal shard]

Pretty much...

[languid beacon]

I mean I got like some 80 hours in beat saber it's fun

[vocal shard]

I quit VR after my DK2 and came back for vrchat

[languid beacon]

but it's nothing to 2000 hrs of vrc

[quick kayak]

Yeah, but there's quite a bit more to get yourself into than just VRC.

[languid beacon]

I'm mostly only interested in social

[quick kayak]

Hey, you can be social and also shoot people in the head lol.

[vocal shard]

That's violent

[covert linden]

Jamies a cutie

[vocal shard]

Lol

[languid beacon]

yeah but they don't let you design worlds

[vocal shard]

Rea!

[covert linden]

HII

[quick kayak]

I always try to talk to the enemy team in Pavlov, telling them to hug me and when they get close, I pull out my knife and RIP

You don't have to have the option to create your own content for the particular game for it to be enjoyable.

[languid beacon]

Nothing wrong with people liking specific things 😃

[vocal shard]

I'm here for the customization. I have to have a look to stay invested in a game

[quick kayak]

Nothing wrong at all, I don't know why you had to mention that though o.o

[vocal shard]

Means I don't play much else tho

[languid beacon]

be it SL, Minecraft, VRChat, I'm mostly into games that let you be creative/constructive.

Granted I've probably spent 30% of my time in VRCHAT and 70% in Unity making stuff for VRChat

[quick kayak]

So if VRC wouldn't let you create content to use for yourself, you'd have 0 interest in it, despite all the other stuff you can do, like be in vr, socialize and meet people from all around the world?

[languid beacon]

yeah with no ability to upload my own content

it would just be the home and hub, right?

and the default avatars?

no wait, the default avatars are user generated too

[quick kayak]

Well no? They would've probably taken a different approach to how it is now of course.

[languid beacon]

yeah i can say for sure I wuldn't be into it

[quick kayak]

I see.

[languid beacon]

That's basically Altspace, and I wasn't into it

[quick kayak]

You weren't because this was a thing.

[rough pulsar]

Altspace definitely had different ideas and while they were running normally a somewhat clear direction with that.

[languid beacon]

there are people that like it more and that's fine

[rough pulsar]

I used altspace for a while before vrc and what kept me going back was the events, which was what they got really right.

[languid beacon]

I want The Oasis from RP1 or the Metaverse from Snow Crash. Right now VRChat comes closet to those visions.

[quick kayak]

Yeah, that's what I've heard about it.

[modern sand]

Front row

[quick kayak]

There's that RP1 game that never took off, I'd like to know why.

[rough pulsar]

And other aspects of it too. Mainly the built in event management system where you could favourite events and it'd notify you when it was due to start.

something we were told we'd get here in VRC over a year ago and well.... here we are

[quick kayak]

They got the intro and some screens really good.

[languid beacon]

yeah events in VRC are impossible to advertise. The most you can do is this discord or reddit, and that's almost no one

[slate verge]

i have a friend that have an obsession with head pats in vrchat and she accidently head pats her real life friends, it was hecking hilarious!

[languid beacon]

I have not yet forgotten RL social norms from playing VR

I don't think... I can ever accidentally do that lol

[slate verge]

i know some friends who are slowly doing vrchat things in real life

misplacing beer bottles as an example when they are playing vrchat and drinking

[lunar shell]

Vrchat really messes up my head, dreams are very frequent now.

[languid beacon]

The worst I've done is tip-toe slowly around my apartment after using VR, afraid I'm going to walk out of my guardian and hit a wall in the "real" world

[slate verge]

yeah one of my friends was also dreaming of vrchat now as well

[umbral oracle]

When I first started vrchat, I started staying up later and felt I needed less sleep because VRChat felt dreamy and surreal like an actual dream

[vocal shard]

I had dreams of vrchat. It's also weird when you see your vrchat friend in normal life dreams

[cold ibex]

When I started playing with a VR I felt like I was playing VRchat in my dreams aa

[covert linden]

Ive had dreams with oclac ans jamie in them

[hollow breach]

Question: What does vrchat do about people who make an account but has never logged onto vrchat?

For like, over a year?

[modern sand]

Nothing, the account still exists

[hollow breach]

Well that's a rip

[eager ermine]

That feeling when you accidentally unfavorite an avatar you can't get back

[hollow breach]

So people can make accounts on the website but never login ;;

Feelsbadman momment right there

[placid umbra]

It should be fixed in Open Beta right now

[uncut gorge]

https://streamable.com/yfiwb