#vrchat-general-2

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umbral reef
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So no need to boot the same to test some things

spice epoch
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still want links to the actuial worlds

spice epoch
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thanks

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great adding fav's is borked

ruby burrow
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He's elusive though. Is only ever in the game to test. And never for long.

boreal kelp
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When will VRChat run doom

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I remember seeing someone emulate Wolfenstein 3D in littlebigplanet a long time ago

umbral reef
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Can VRchat run crisis šŸ¤”

rigid crescent
idle elm
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VRChat has already run doom via a shader. šŸ‘

ruby burrow
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Shaders are genuine black magic.

boreal kelp
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what about duke 3d

ruby burrow
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Some day shaders will become advanced enough that we can have life like conversations with them, indistinguishable from your preferred reality of choice.

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Hopefully we can live in harmony together, that they don't rebel and overthrow us.

boreal kelp
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Was it shaders or scripts that allowed for video streaming in VRChat

stoic halo
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Quest gonna be funny

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waiting for models that are just signs insulting them

vocal shard
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I’m gonna make one of those now

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Good idea

languid beacon
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I mean technically all those older raycast games were just a shader

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All they did is sample and stretch textures

desert stratus
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the real black magic is texture mapping

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i love coming across avatars that actually use bump/normal maps on their clothing

vocal shard
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Wack

desert stratus
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and not just the really bad, really weird maps on some worlds

languid beacon
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I would and have mine available but decided with all the flat shading in vrc it wasn’t worth the texture memory

inner cape
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normal maps arent making your model look any better, theyre just made for optimisation

languid beacon
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I mean their original purpose was for baking high poly detail into lower but realistically they are for higher texture lighting detail manually painted instead of modeled and baked

inner cape
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finding a model with normal maps doesnt really make it look any better than another model without them is what i meant to say

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

languid beacon
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Oh yeah my avatar is a kitbash and I ditched all my normals

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Was just unnecessary and didn’t add much

worthy oracle
languid beacon
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Less than 24 hours before the quest users start coming in

vocal shard
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Can’t wait for the servers to go into meltdown when they all go offline cause of the player influx

languid beacon
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I don’t think they will compare to the PC player count

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I think you’ll be lucky to find one

vocal shard
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True

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It’ll be more funny to see all the work they put into the quest to just see no one use it

languid beacon
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Quest is likely to get very popular. If VRC sees some of that it will be a slow process

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For now it will just be day one hobbyists

vocal shard
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Watching reddit, seeing a number of people saying they're buying quests for their kids animesweat

odd lava
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Disturbing

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I am reconsidering porting my world for quest now

languid beacon
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Yeah it’s basically a console so that isn’t unusual

wintry quarry
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kfg

vocal shard
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Yeah. I still want one

languid beacon
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I want one but index exists

odd lava
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I thank valve everyday for saving us from Facebook

vocal shard
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Index exists, but unfortunately Canada is left out sad

languid beacon
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I thank Oculus every day for making the VR war exist in the first place. None of this would be happening if not for Palmer that’s just facts

odd lava
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Oculus is no more for a long time

languid beacon
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Source?

odd lava
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It is Facebook now, I highly doubt that Oculus would try to push screen exclusives

languid beacon
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Oh your just memeing

odd lava
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If facts are memes for you, so be it I will not argue

languid beacon
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Pretty sure oculus still exists they release a headset tomorrow

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I mean I could be wrong about that 😃

odd lava
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We have healthy competition WMR headsets and Steam vr headsets. Oculus is not needed

languid beacon
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Wouldn’t have happened without the dk1 Kickstarter is my point

vocal shard
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While I'm still not a fan of Facebook. Without oculus's focus on the entry-level and mass market with things like the quest, VR could easily fail again. valve is aiming for the enthusiast market of the current VR user base which is only about 20%

odd lava
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I would argue that screen exclusives are worst thing that happened on pc for a long time

languid beacon
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The biggest danger to vr is the pcmr crowd making public opinion think Quest is bad

vocal shard
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Yes we all hate exclusives. But it's a proven way to sell systems. Been a huge part of the console wars for years. Almost every company thinks money first, customers second

unkempt root
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hi

vocal shard
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Hi

languid beacon
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Going to go out on a limb and say many people here were babies in the 90’s. Nothing wrong with that; they just missed out on the values of a technology war. Video games are a huge industry right now for a reason

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Haven’t really been a thing since the Sony / Xbox stalemate

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It just serves to get us better headsets sooner and cheaper everyone wins

umbral reef
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Yea but the Vr market is right now fairly small
Its not been that long since some games could sell million coppies...

languid beacon
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Exclusive games are a big part of that and we’re in the 90’s too

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still is for Nintendo

umbral reef
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And the fact we are fairly limited with tech so people are just inventing 'new ways to use VR' instead like facebook just dud and what HTC will also do.

vocal shard
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We need the quest to start marketing with "blast processing"
Lol

languid beacon
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Oculus does what vivon’t

vocal shard
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Lol

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Thinking about the quest, it has fixed foveated Rendering to help a bit. Wonder if that has enough of an impact where it could be an option for PCVR. I know we have more powerful systems, but every little bit helps

languid beacon
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Time will tell how moddable it is if they can get it unofficially tethered. With screens the same res as a vive pro / index, at $399 you can bet most people will buy it just to mod it

umbral reef
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Its only sideload

languid beacon
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That’s not a very Facebook thing but it is a very Carmack thing

umbral reef
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And even that is fairly limited from what i understand

vocal shard
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What? No I'm not talking about quest on PC. I'm talking about fixed fovated rendering for PCVR

languid beacon
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Oh

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I’d prefer to wait for non-fixed fovated

vocal shard
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True. Just from the Vive pro eye conference they made it seem like an RTX card was almost required for that for the variable rate shading. Idk.
I'm just excited to see what comes out in the next years

languid beacon
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Yeah vive pro eye makes me want to hold off on Index idk

uncut gorge
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@languid beacon I'd agree with you on the benefits of a console war if we were actually seeing tangible improvements in the tech. When it came to Nintendo vs Sega and Sony vs Microsoft, we got better hardware with each iteration. With the Quest we get worse hardware, worse tracking, less visual fidelity in the games, lower framerate, etc, at the same price point as the previous generation. What needed to happen was a massive price drop in Gen 1 hardware; Rift and Vive should have both dropped in price for low end market accesibility while Vive pro, Index and Rift S ||if you can even call Rift S an upgrade|| hit the market at Gen 1 price points. Right now Oculus is just going for the lowest common denominator and if it catches on we'll just see developers develop towards that and see no growth in the high end market. It's a race to the bottom and is bad.

vocal shard
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Ye

languid beacon
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Rift S isn’t Rift 2. It’s an S model, just like Apple’s S models.

uncut gorge
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X box Scorpio or whatever it's called still had tangible benefits over the predecessor

languid beacon
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Like the Wii revisions that got rid of GameCube support it’s just a more targeted demographic rather than an upgrade

uncut gorge
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Rift S has several compromises with only small improvements

languid beacon
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That means it’s not for you

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But there are people who disagree and it’s exactly what they wanted

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If oculus gets the sales they want they were successful

uncut gorge
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My point is, that the current trajectory of Oculus has them putting out shittier hardware to capture the low end market, and if it reaches mass appeal then all we'll see is everyone else following suit and any real advancement in vr tech and software will slow to a crawl.

languid beacon
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They don’t need people who don’t want it to buy it

uncut gorge
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I don't care what Oculus needs or wants, I care about what's good for the hobby

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Quest is not good for the hobby

languid beacon
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What oculus is doing is making vr affordable

ivory axle
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what im looking forward to is the oculus full body tracking am i right

uncut gorge
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Oculus is selling people a go-kart ride when they are expecting a car

languid beacon
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Firm the very first Kickstarter they stated clearly their vision is to make vr affordable

uncut gorge
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Well I hope you enjoy when only go-karts are for sale and no real cars will be on the market anymore

languid beacon
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If oculus makes a 1K headset you can say they changed their goals

uncut gorge
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Again, I don't care about their goals, I care about what is good for the futherment of VR. Oculus is only going to harm our hobby's advancement

lunar shell
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I doubt they will It's facebook. Rak makes some good points too.

uncut gorge
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Ironinc because they were the ones to make it achievable in the first place

languid beacon
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Then we simply disagree on what is good for vr and must end it there

umbral reef
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Are there any even any original devs in management position within oculus?

uncut gorge
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Palmer Luckey, the original founder of Oculus left saying he's not interested in their race to the bottom.

languid beacon
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Incorrect

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That was micheal

lunar shell
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With all headsets, you can upgrade your PC to make it run better. Quest will need an entire new headset for an upgrade.

languid beacon
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Palmer’s quote is ā€œI endorse Oculus Questā€

oak axle
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hi

umbral reef
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Tbh i love the SteamVR way
Allow for upgrades over time from some parts, better headset from X? get that with controllers from Y

oak axle
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im new to this

uncut gorge
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Oh, you're right, Palmer posted on his blog saying "this is why this other dude left the company"

brave shore
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K

uncut gorge
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That "I endorse the quest" seems like a canned response that was probably suggested he say by his former employers

languid beacon
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He went in more detail in follow up tweets but yeah

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As outspoken as he is I don’t think he’d play puppet lol

uncut gorge
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Or perhaps he does endorse it, either way, doesn't change my opinion on that piece of shit hardware. Hell, even here in VRChat we're already seeing the effects of the Quest. With the networked IK that was rushed out this week because the quest isn't powerful enough to do IK calculations and keep an acceptable framerate. Tupper even stated on another discord "the Quest kind of forced our hand"

languid beacon
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He’s a memer not a liar

uncut gorge
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Meanwhile all of us PC users have had a far worse experience in VRchat thanks to the network IK

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Thanks for that facebook!

lunar shell
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Yeah, the presentation room was laugable when I was there last night.

vocal shard
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Looks like everyone has Parkinson’s

lunar shell
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I was seeing drawing in the air as the person was walking away.

vocal shard
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The Quest gahhh it's sooo good

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K

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back to Quest now

umbral reef
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Not just its new hype good?

vocal shard
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no it's like legit good

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Already been in quite a few of the games / apps

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YouTube VR is amazing. Also there's a streetview MP one called Wander

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also amazing

desert stratus
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yeah tbh say what you want about the quest but i think people are underestimating its hardware

languid beacon
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I just hope enough people upload android builds on vrc

desert stratus
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as well as what devs can do with mobile hardware

lunar shell
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My opinion is it's great for what it is. The rest of us that want quality are getting hurt though.

languid beacon
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Yeah people don’t understand how beneficial it is for game devs to have the user hardware specs garunteeed

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If it runs for you it runs for everyone

umbral reef
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But it also means they have to pick markets

desert stratus
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i mean, if the vrc team wants to add index finger curling then theyre gonna have to loop back to focusing on the pc base eventually

umbral reef
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That already happens with PSVR and PCVR

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Then we have oculus exclusives

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And now quest also

languid beacon
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Nothing wrong with exclusives

desert stratus
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worst case scenario the time between focusing on the quest and focusing on pcvr means that we get better optimization, even if its breaking shit right now

languid beacon
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If you want everything crossplay you get common denominator games

umbral reef
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Ow yea as we have loads of good VR games already that exclusives are worth doing...

uncut gorge
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So VRPill, are you happy with the worsened experience networked IK has brought to all your users?

vocal shard
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I'm thinking the quest will bring back interest in avatar worlds

lunar shell
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I played Second Life for over a decade. If you couldn't run shadows, you turned them off. Here in vrchat, if you can't run normal IK, they turn it off for everyone. smh.

meager solstice
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šŸ¤”

languid beacon
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He can’t answer he’s flossing down the street with a headset on becasue he can

vocal shard
umbral reef
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@desert stratus Games already broken in billion of ways
And even if all bugs gets fixed we have loads of wrong or more lacking information ingame still...

vocal shard
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Networking IK is still being worked On. There's only so much they can test in small units. To perfect it, they might have needed to apply it to the whole game to finalize it. Once network IK is finished, it should be better than the old system

uncut gorge
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It's been in beta for literally months and the same problems we saw back in december still exist, along with new ones

umbral reef
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Everything in this game is being worked on... Legit take a look at there documentation page :')
Its hard to find a system thats thats fully completed. Its a meme by now sadly.

lunar shell
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I'm not very hopeful on that.

uncut gorge
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There's a complete lack of interpolation which was a complaing myself and several others made back in december

umbral reef
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Some polish on specific systems would help the game loads more then just new things.

desert stratus
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yeah thats the one thing i dont get, why they can't just hold off all of the new creator tools and completely rewrite the backend and not just the api and what not

umbral reef
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Even doing small shit like making clear the merge system wont move favorites if the VRchat acc has any type of favorites would help. (Its one of the few things that highly annoy me with how badly its documented)

uncut gorge
umbral reef
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The amount of people who dont know we have a particle limiter is also insane.
There is almost no need to disable particles unless you really dislike them.

uncut gorge
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good IK!

meager solstice
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havent been to mogra in a while.....

uncut gorge
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thanks Quest!

umbral reef
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But ey- Ima just stop complaining as i do that enough already in here and im sure some people dont like me saying these things.

vocal shard
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Networking IK was in development before the quest. They mentioned it back early 2018. Other than the model lag and jerkiness, the game runs better. Let them work on it in the real environment. Testing it in beta in private servers might not give them the real world environment they need to tune it for 10k+ users at a time.

desert stratus
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best case scenario is either they get it working or fix the game's load hard enough that they can bring it back locally. or would bringing it back locally never be feasible?

lunar shell
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It would be nice to hear that from a DEV. To know it's actually being fixed.

desert stratus
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oof hopefully we get some news in june then

uncut gorge
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Yes Jamie, I know it's been in development for a long time. But it was pushed live last week, before it was ready. BECAUSE OF THE QUEST. https://i.imgur.com/fNIyHEg.png

vocal shard
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Just got out of Dance Central. They have multiplayer was hilarious joining a multiplayer session. Just people wailing their arms around.

desert stratus
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nice lol

uncut gorge
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Are you an ad bot VR Pill?

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This space paid for by Facebook

umbral reef
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Wrong channel btw pill

vocal shard
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🤦

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bringing over to correct channel

uncut gorge
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hahaha

vocal shard
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X3

vocal shard
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hard

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šŸ’¦

velvet iris
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hey everyone

vocal shard
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Hey

languid beacon
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Hey

velvet iris
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I played some VRChat yesterday after a long hiatus. Seems like my custom avatar was wiped. I assume that there was some breaking changes to the SDK?

vocal shard
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Rip

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Yes there were as well as an update to the version of unity

velvet iris
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That explains everything then.

languid beacon
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I need help with my Oculus Quest can someone help how do I unblock avatars

vocal shard
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Unblock them 4 head

prime olive
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Does anyone here use openvr twitch overlay ,not to be confused with ovrdrop.

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I cant get chat to aappear on below flipped on my left controller

vocal shard
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Why not just use ovrdrop

prime olive
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Im cheap at the mo lol

vocal shard
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Isn’t it like 5 dollars lul

prime olive
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Not in the uk

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Im savingas much as i can to get a new rig for my twitch streaming setup

languid beacon
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OVR is not that well designed imho and I got it for free even

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Might have been updated since a year ago though

prime olive
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Not that ive seen on github

languid beacon
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In fairness it was probably designed more with vive in mind

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But it was very confusing in touch

prime olive
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Yeah i get it showing on screen and in world just not on controller

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No way i just got it to work lol

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šŸ˜‚

vocal shard
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Niiice

prime olive
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I changed values agaian and reset

vocal shard
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šŸ‘Œ

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@desert pewter bruh how long were you typing for

desert pewter
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when i tried vrchat i did not like it at all. I went off for like 3 months and then gave it a go again. I was in love with the game and the people who are their... vrchat helps me live and be myself. And when im sad i go play vrchat. I dont know what to say tbh...

vocal shard
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Epic story

umbral reef
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Just say that the Ik system sucks rn and your intregrated into chat

prime olive
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I have it working but not showing in stream hmmm

vocal shard
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Pretty much

prime olive
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Great story

desert pewter
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thanks...

vocal shard
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Brought a tear to my eye

desert pewter
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it helps me get away from the real world where i get bulled and beat up constantly... I'm happy that i saved and for a new pc and vr and bought it... I'm happy that i found this game

vocal shard
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Have you ever tried fighting back

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A metal lunchbox full of rocks can work wonders against bullies

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I speak from experience

desert pewter
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... no i haven't

vocal shard
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^ lmao i did exactly that

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Hell yeah

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For some reason i didnt eat lunch the one day this kid started talking smack. And i snapped when he took my phone and dangled it above those like flood drains. Smacked his head with a full metal lunch box

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It was cash

desert pewter
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vrchat saved my life...

bitter coyote
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oh no

vocal shard
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Yikes don’t rely on this game as a complete escape from the real world

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That’s not healthy

desert pewter
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i know tbh

bitter coyote
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Maybe the whole furry part is the real issue buddy

lunar shell
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careful. Never know what will happen in vrchat future.

vocal shard
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Lmao

desert pewter
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yeah

vocal shard
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I agree with bichnuggets

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Not shaving is a bad thing

desert pewter
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tbh i only have 13 hrs in the game oof

vocal shard
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Neckbeard in training aevSip

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And you claim it’s already saved your life

desert pewter
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even if you think its fake im fine with that tbh... its not

vocal shard
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Did it save you from being straight? Otherwise i think youre looking at it in the wrong lens

bitter coyote
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I mean that's good for you and all, but you sound like you need actual professional help dude

vocal shard
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Get a therapist and maybe someone from animal control

desert pewter
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i know i do and oof

vocal shard
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says oof, you are not fully saved

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Clearly

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I’m guessing you’re 13-15

uncut gorge
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Don't use VRchat to save your life. It's a nice distraction from actual reality but in the end you have to deal with your real life problems before you can be happy. And I say this as someone with more vrchat hours than most people here

vocal shard
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It’s probably a good idea to seek professional guidance

modern sand
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Can you guys tone it down with the aggressiveness ?

vocal shard
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^^^rak

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Couldn’t have said it better

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Nice save

languid beacon
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Can we get a bluestacks build of desktop vrchat so pc users can use quest content

bitter coyote
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wait what

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'aggressiveness' also equates to 'advice' aparrently

worthy oracle
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in vrchat i can hear myself when i speak

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but only in game?

vocal shard
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Omg is that bichnuggets sponsored by coke

languid beacon
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Even when in a world alone, vin?

desert pewter
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yeah i know and i still do have to

slate verge
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@worthy oracle i think it depends on the other users around you with their mic settings

uncut gorge
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It's either other people's mics/speakers picking your voice up, or your audio settings are incorrect

slate verge
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yeah

vocal shard
jovial veldt
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who is izzy xoxo they have like multiple accounts and messaged me randomly asking if i wanted to be their gf lol

vocal shard
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Take the offer

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I would lmao

jovial veldt
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and they wouldnt stop talking to me lol

vocal shard
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My boy izzy

jovial veldt
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i dont wanna be their gf tho

vocal shard
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If it’s a problem just keep blocking the new accounts

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He is hilarioud

slate verge
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@jovial veldt i talked to them before, its better to just block them.

vocal shard
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Izzy is addicted to erp tbh

jovial veldt
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i said no and they just keep saying f me

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so i trolled them

vocal shard
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Thats hot

slate verge
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thats making it worse

jovial veldt
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actually i got them to block me

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so it was great

slate verge
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šŸ¤”

jovial veldt
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i wouldnt take any of the bs

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so like is he a normal chill dude or what i know nothing about them if they were just tryihng to be funny than fine lol

vocal shard
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He’s chill just addicted to e dating and erp

jovial veldt
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ah ok we i was reverse trolling him and he blocked me lol

modern sand
vocal shard
jovial veldt
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like it was no problem to me but idk if it might be a problem to others

vocal shard
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Nah he is just a kid being a kid

jovial veldt
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yea

vocal shard
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Chill and Normal dont mix

jovial veldt
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ok so long story short my discord kinda did a thing where we all changed our pfp to the snapchat girl filter soo i think he saw that. It's been a week now so i changed it back but that was most likely the case

vocal shard
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Solid yikes

jovial veldt
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XD

vocal shard
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With the filter I look like I Carly

slate verge
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idk how people enjoys themselves with that filter seriously.

jovial veldt
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oh its hilarious!

modern sand
jovial veldt
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yo but ngl i was cringing at myself

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omgo sorry!

worthy oracle
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@languid beacon yes

languid beacon
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Annnnd in come the quest users

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Like normal, non-dev people

slate verge
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quest gameplays are actually okay, but its terrible due to the awful mirror and exclusion from pc content

bold dagger
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hi

languid beacon
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I think the quest can do the vrc mirror shader it’s just not recommended ?

slate verge
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is it?

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hello evie

languid beacon
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I could be wrong I will see soon

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Most crossplay worlds use the ā€œpotato mirrorā€ ie only reflecting avatars

lunar shell
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I'm assuming Vive Cosmos when it comes out will run vrchat too?

languid beacon
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If it’s at least as powerful as quest and runs either windows or android I can’t see why it wouldn’t. If it runs some third target platform who knows

lunar shell
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Well all speculation but what Iread is that it will be using the latest mobile chip. Not the two year old one.

languid beacon
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We’ll get some funky triforce venn diagram for crossplay

lunar shell
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Plus maybe full body potential.

languid beacon
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Still not 100% surebwhat vive cosmos is

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Is that before or after vive pro eye

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My assumption was it’s like a quest with the option to be a pcvr display

meager solstice
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@languid beacon the vive cosmos is more like a rift s

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But will one day have the ā€œfeatureā€ to be like the quest

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Who knows how much money it will cost for ā€œwirelessā€

languid beacon
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So not the Vive Cosmos basically

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I don’t see how it suddenly get its own gpu

covert linden
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Ive the vive cosmos ran on a mobile chip itd be abpe to run witj the quest stuff likely but even if it was heavier, stronger, it wouldnt see any more than the quest.

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Becase theyre not gonna make a quest version and a cosmo version if the quest version can run on the cosmo version. Imaging telling people to upload 3 versions lol

meager solstice
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Personally from what I’ve been reading about the cosmos..... it’s a scam

covert linden
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The cosmos seems like it was forgotten

meager solstice
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No not forgotten just announced to early

languid beacon
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Scam is a big word to just throw around. But I have been burned by HTC to harshly to defend them.

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So sure

meager solstice
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Well I use ā€œscamā€ lightly

covert linden
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I doubt many games wanna make a third version so that the cosmos can see better graphics.

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Quest beat them and itll be harsh against tjem

meager solstice
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Why would they need to make a 3rd version?

languid beacon
#

Yeah it’s like the PS2 getting GameCube quality graphics because the art is already done

meager solstice
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It has a pc cable

languid beacon
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We are talking the future ā€œstandaloneā€ Cosmos

covert linden
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They wouldnt. But for the games if its trying to be standalone, they cant use the pc assets on a mobile proccessor

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And games dont wanna make a quest version, then an improved graphically cosmo version, and a pc button

meager solstice
#

oh

alpine crater
#

does OpenVR also allow for graphical scaling, or is that a SteamVR feature?

languid beacon
#

Unity makes that comparatively kinda easy tbh

covert linden
#

Does every single vr game use unity?

meager solstice
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No

alpine crater
#

a lot do though

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VRChat, climbry, beat saber

meager solstice
#

Unity is just a good engine for vr atm

covert linden
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For vrchat itd be hard. Because try telling people to make 3 versions

languid beacon
#

Not every game has user generated content

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It’s hard for vrc specifically

covert linden
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Other games could either though just give cosmos its extremely optimized content, or go back and do the whole proccess again but for cosmos

alpine crater
#

quest VRChat makes more sense if it were open to any mobile VR

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quest is the first big mobile VR standalone though, at least backed by devs

meager solstice
#

How long battery life does the quest have? And how long does it take to charge anyone know?

covert linden
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Isnt it loke 2-4 hours

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And you can play with it when its charging

meager solstice
#

Mhm maybe I’ll just google

languid beacon
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Can be plugged in while playing tho that defeats some points

meager solstice
#

2-3 hours people say

languid beacon
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Oof owwie

meager solstice
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That’s not a lot

lunar shell
#

What worries me is if it's like phone batteries, they will only last that long the firs few weeks you own it.

meager solstice
#

I don’t doubt the quest is ā€œgoodā€ but I still think in terms of mobile vr it’s still to ā€œearlyā€ in the stages

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What do u guys think of the new cross play pug?

lunar shell
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When we get Quest 2, it won't make anything better either because everything will be made or Quest 1 still.

languid beacon
#

Well it’s an overclocked snapdragon running a over 4K display at 70 fps what do you expect lol

covert linden
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I havent seen it when its crossplayable but the old one kills my frames

languid beacon
#

With multiple IMus and cameras

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There won’t be a quest 2z

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They’ll be a Quest S

covert linden
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LOL

meager solstice
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The new one will definitely give ur frames back @covert linden

covert linden
#

Thats nice but is it a 10person maxm

meager solstice
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And very ā€œlimited spaceā€

covert linden
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Yikess

meager solstice
#

My friend is getting the quest, even though he has a pc that can use a regular vr headset like the vive/oculus. I still think he’s crazy for not going for one of those

full comet
#

well vrc muted my voice changer. -.-

covert linden
#

Yep it does that

languid beacon
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Generally a bad idea to put audio on the windows version of a cross play avatar because quest users wouldn’t know that they’re doing it cuz they won’t hear it

full comet
#

Quest sounds like a HUGE down grade. >->

languid beacon
#

A lot of VR chat desktop users are going for quests, not realizing it’s an entirely different section of content

covert linden
#

Technically its not downgrade

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Because people who its targetted ffor itll be their first vr

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So thats an upgrade to them

languid beacon
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Yeah but for people who already experienced a VR chat on desktop, I think they expect to be able to visit all the same places in VR and they won’t be able to

covert linden
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Yeah thatll be super suckyyyy

languid beacon
#

I’m expecting a few of them to put on the headset and suddenly say wait where did all of my favorites go

median basalt
#

I don't get why existing Rift owners are "happy to ditch their Rift"

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If Quest catches on enough that might actually be really bad for VR as a whole

covert linden
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Im happy to ditch my rift

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Forrrr the rift S

near saffron
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What the S got over rift?

covert linden
#

Also my wmr broke after like 2 months of use and im sad about it

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Inside out tracking which personally I adore. Its also higher res

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Less usbs, its all perfect for someone who cant exactly setup sensors like me,

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Oh and instant roomscale!

near saffron
#

Sounds good. What’s inside out tracking all about?

covert linden
#

It means sensorless tracking, so you dont need to put things around your room instead its camera based.
What it does is it makes a 3d map in your room and places the controllers and you in it

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Its easier to get roomscale as your playspace isnt limited by what the sensors can reach, roomscale means you can crouch, walk in any direction etc

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Only flaws is you cannot put your hands behind your back andd move them for a long period of time, as theres no cameras back there and theyll lock up

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The rift needs usb tethered sensors so its hard getting the same freedom

near saffron
#

Yee, might get that then when my rift eventually calls it quits and dies

covert linden
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Im selling my rift for the rift s

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I can get a decent amount for it as it was barely used

near saffron
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Doubt I’ll get much for mine as been using it for over a year

covert linden
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You could get arounnd 300usd on it if you check the prices around where you live for them used

worn stratus
#

Is anyone else having trouble logging into vrchat

median basalt
#

I don't really recommend downgrading to the Rift S at all but whatever floats your boat

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I don't get why people are in a hurry to jump on obvious downgrades like the Quest or Rift S

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If you already have PC VR, the Quest is a downgrade. If you already have a Rift set up, the Rift S is a downgrade.

stoic halo
#

Yeah i dont get that, dropping the clearly superior Rift to the Rift S.

covert linden
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Its an upgrade to me.

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I prefer my wmr over my oculus

vocal shard
#

It's preference. I would not go back to the CV1 Rift myself after owning on one and comparing with my other headsets. Reviews say the S is an overall upgrade despite what some who haven't used it say. There's trade off's and things weigh out, but reviews have openly said given the choice they'd rather is the S over the CV1

near saffron
#

So S and Rift both have different advantages?

covert linden
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Yes

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Its all prefrence as jamie said

vocal shard
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Rift S has better lenses. And higher resolution, but inside out tracking rather than external sensors

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it downgraded the audio, the rift cv1 has better headphones, but all the other stuff is improved

stoic halo
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im still heavily against switching to S becaust inside out lol, i can't stand using inside out.

queen mango
#

There is also the convenience of less wires, tho

vocal shard
#

the guardian setup is a lot easier too

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It's not the same as wmr inside out though. As people who've used it say its comparable to 3 sensor rift. Even use it to play echo arena, passing the disk behind their back. ECT.

queen mango
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Would be a pain trying to plug in external sensors in a small space or lacking outlets to even plug them in.

covert linden
#

You can use your own headphones with the rift s cant you?

vocal shard
#

the only downside of the new inside out tracking is that it feels like your oculus controllers are upside down

median basalt
#

No adjustable IPD

vocal shard
#

the ring is on top now

median basalt
#

80 hz

covert linden
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Thats okay if youre in the ipd range.

median basalt
#

There's more to it than the audio

covert linden
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I prefer my wmr over my rift

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Sorry for the short replies im in the shower

vocal shard
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Better lenses though which in practice allow for much larger IPD range than is officially stated. And the lower HZ screen has lower persistence which balances it out and every reviewer has said they've looked to see the lower HZ and cannot see it. Those arguments had more weight before it was tested, but the more people test it, the more say those aren't an issue as people originally thought

vocal verge
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Rift S is not a downgrade to the Rift - at the very least it's a side grade.

covert linden
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Its a seperare entity based off prefrence

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Brb shower stuff

vocal verge
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There's no good reasons to get a rift over a rift s if one is a newcomer to vr

vocal shard
#

It's a refresh of the same line. Side grade overall. But definitely not a bad headset. Just not enough of an overall headset to change if you already have a rift

vocal verge
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^

queen mango
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What about those who lack the space or outlets for their Rift or Vive?
Surely WMR or Rift S, or Quest could appeal to these sorts of demographics.

vocal verge
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I think inside-out tracking like the rift-s is the future... It's already good enough for 95% of VR situations, they just need to solve the blind spot issue and it's perfect.

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(cameras on the controllers themselves????)

devout pasture
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hello i am banshee but on vrchat known as Zariese the welsh dragon

vocal shard
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Many feel the rift S screen alone is worth it. Here's the pixel density comparison to the Vive pro and Odyssey+ http://imgur.com/Jsp0Plx

devout pasture
#

could anyone help me with my avatar creation??

queen mango
covert linden
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I want the rift s so bad eeksdee

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Ive had bad luck all.my tech as of recently has been breaking.. my wmr.. my battery charger.. like nani tf

queen mango
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Same here. Atp, none of the detractors are gonna convince me otherwise.

covert linden
#

Least my laptop still works.. for now

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My bad luck scares me, my pc parts better not break

queen mango
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Just needed to save enough money and hope they still are willing to continue to sell VR headsets in the Philippines, whether online or retail

covert linden
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If not u could get a friend to ship it to you

queen mango
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That's what I did, actually.. but he needed to hold it off for now as he is currently searching for a new job.

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He got fired from the factory job a month ago for reasons out of his control

covert linden
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Id help u with that except the way canada shipping is. Itd basiczlly be the cost of the rift s anyway

vocal verge
covert linden
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Oh wow

queen mango
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Anyways, I still have to consider first the PC parts I have to buy with the money I'm currently saving up for.

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So that may be a while, or another half-year.

vocal verge
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oof - yeah not having a gaming pc already really ups the cost

languid beacon
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Little PC icon on your chest

queen mango
#

Oh labels on the blocked avatars?

languid beacon
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Depending on reason

covert linden
#

I wish itd at least be suited to your height

languid beacon
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if you manually blocked them it's a 🚫 symbol

vocal verge
#

Yeah they need to make it match the height of avatars or a lot of stuff would be fucked up @covert linden

languid beacon
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Pretty sure the new diamondboi avatars do obey height, but i don't know if the grey : | robots do

covert linden
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The diamond bois dont as far ad im aware

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The seem to be all the same height

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Aaye my canny has 64 updates woah

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Hsdhf its on the front feature pagee thats so awesome ima cry

languid beacon
#

It's funny, first thing she hears when entering the hub. "ARE YOU AN ACTUAL QUEST USER?"

night perch
#

how to fix my animations on keyboard my shift and f1-f10 not working

languid beacon
#

It's highly avatar dependent. Is it your own upload?

hollow solstice
#

i want that song on my avatar

covert linden
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@languid beacon so the diamondo avatars TRY to be the same height but usually fail

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ive seen too many loli ones and when the avatar loads the avatars massive

languid beacon
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Oh, that's probably due to them messing with gameobject scale in unity instead of import scale

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people need to do everything via import setting's scale

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so animations that touch scale don't bug out

vocal shard
vocal shard
#

whatever they did in the update, it's completely messed me up and I lag with more than two avatars besides my own loaded

desert stratus
#

thats odd

vocal shard
#

Welcome to the club population people with shit internet

desert stratus
#

what kind of lag? frame lag?

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or avatar lag?

tiny crescent
#

one of my vive base stations are blinking red how do i fix this

vocal shard
#

Yikes

#

You can't

#

I had that problem you'll have to send it back to vive for them to fix it

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@tiny crescent F in chat

tiny crescent
#

how do i send it back to vive

desert stratus
#

oh lord, glorious htc support

tiny crescent
#

ok thanks

vocal shard
#

You're in for a bad time tbh

desert stratus
#

check their websitee or the little pamphlets that came with ur box and there should be an email/phone number

tiny crescent
#

link

languid beacon
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So long as you didn't actually buy it directly from Vive.com, you can send it back to amazon or whatever

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if you bought it directly from HTC / Vive, you're out of luck, they have a 14 day return policy after that it's yours forever no refunds

tiny crescent
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i got it from walmart website

languid beacon
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then return it to walmart

tiny crescent
#

ok

languid beacon
#

how long have you had it?

thin path
#

has anyone experienced unity saying an avatar has 0 polygons

#

trying to make an avatar and it all looks good in blender but unity wont cooperate

vocal shard
#

Now that's optimized

#

Good job

tiny crescent
#

ive had it for 2 weeks

vocal shard
#

Ohyes @bitter coyote whats up man

bitter coyote
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@vocal shard hey what's going on man

vocal shard
#

Why not

worldly notch
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I came back

uncut trail
#

wow every world i go to resets ,y avatars to default really

#

getting annoyed n pissed off due having to switch back to my own model

rotund phoenix
#

i can smell you jon

uncut trail
#

constently

viscid wolf
#

Advice for when you literally have a vrchat stalker and blocking does nothing also they stalk literally everywhere else on the internet as well

#

Hoping for an option isn't just ridding oneself of the internet as a whole

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or vrchat

slate verge
#

are you saying you needed advice or that...that advice is not working?

vocal shard
#

@viscid wolf Make an alt account

covert linden
#

Marry them

vocal shard
#

That too

cold talon
#

Oh lord it's gorefield vrpill

terse basin
#

hello

slate verge
#

hiyo

random shadow
#

@viscid wolf private all of your social media, block said person from all social media, be very careful who you allow into your social circle, don't accept friend requests you aren't sure of, make sure there's nobody in your current social circle leaking information to said stalker

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and worst case scenario, call the cops

vocal shard
#

Calling the police isn't an option when it comes to a vrc stalker lmao

random shadow
#

it is if it comes to the worst case scenario

slate verge
#

usually most of the time internet things doesn't work in real life

random shadow
#

what if said stalker decides to stalk you physically?

slate verge
#

what idiot would try to stalk you 24/7 on vrchat really...thats just stupid

vocal shard
#

They would need to trace your ip to find your address and that's easy to do but most people who play this game are too stupid to figure out how

random shadow
#

yeah and how sure are you that it totally wouldn't get to that?

vocal shard
#

Cause it can be solved with a vpn

random shadow
#

just saying, a worst case scenario is a worst case scenario

vocal shard
#

K

vague turtle
#

Did this update add more problems or what

vocal shard
#

Yep but got you more frames back

deep otter
#

Can someone tell me about how long it takes to be upgraded once? I'm trying to upload my own avatar

#

but for some reason there's a block on me

vocal shard
#

About a day or two of active play

deep otter
#

😮 my nitro ran out

vocal shard
#

L

deep otter
#

i cannot use emotes, what is this madness

vocal shard
deep otter
#

So I got the sdk to load up to that point on latest unity. Will I have to use the old unity at some point?

#

or is it a 'issues will probably happen if u dont use it'

vocal shard
#

What sdk and what version of unity are you currently on

random shadow
#

looks like your nitro is still active, this server just doesn't allow outside emotes

deep otter
#

unity 2018.2.5f1 personal, and latest SDK

vocal shard
#

That unity is not compatible with the sdk

deep otter
#

ah shoot. overnight download it is. Ok thanks for your help, bye alllllll

vocal shard
#

The unity version you need is 2017.4.15f1

slate verge
#

i questioned vrchat randomness sometimes

#

i have a friend that is a famous twitch streamer and never knew that.

#

boom!~ next thing you know, instant vip

ashen kraken
#

Is anybody experiencing not being able to join some worlds?
Like, its just goes back to the "Logging In" screen but never puts you in the world

vocal shard
#

Had the same thing happen to me Fooni kind of blew my mind how I never noticed it

slate verge
#

yeah it feels kinda strange and surprised

rotund phoenix
#

where is he???

serene anvil
#

Hi everyone

rotund phoenix
#

hello

serene anvil
#

I'm quite new here

rotund phoenix
#

well heres your first tip

#

dont pay people with exposure (aka giving credit on the avatar/world)

serene anvil
#

Oh I wont

rotund phoenix
#

i learned that the hard way

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and yes i got banned

#

only for a few days tho

serene anvil
#

Even tho that took me a sec to process cuz I'm 12 yrs old and it's fkn 2 am where I live

#

XD

full comet
#

I found a thingy in an alt. pug world. -3- left world buuut didnt know if that thing is still going or not

vocal shard
#

@rotund phoenix what do you mean pay people with exposure

serene anvil
#

I think I get it but not quite

rotund phoenix
#

giving credit on the avatar/world without useing money

serene anvil
#

Oh I see

vocal shard
#

Ohyes

#

So you took something and got banned cause you used it without paying for it

#

Pepega

rotund phoenix
#

no

serene anvil
#

Oh who here's a girl?

rotund phoenix
#

i was asking ofr poeple to help make a avatar

serene anvil
#

I think I'm the only girl under 16 who plays vrc

rotund phoenix
#

and they asked what for

vocal shard
#

Why is that an accomplishment

#

Nah you aren't and you most likely aren't a girl but k

serene anvil
#

Lmao

vocal shard
#

That's just the tea

hasty wedge
#

my 9 yr old sister plays vrc

vocal shard
#

Wack

serene anvil
#

Fair enough there are lots of traps on vrc

vocal shard
#

... what?

rotund phoenix
#

i will find th person who banned me and tell him that ive learned

prisma plover
#

When in doubt, reverse the numbers. 61 years old x)

vocal shard
#

That's ban evasion

rotund phoenix
#

...

serene anvil
#

But I'm not a trap

vocal shard
#

K who cares

serene anvil
#

XD

vocal shard
serene anvil
#

Again fair enough

rotund phoenix
#

i was banned because i was a 5 year old who knew how to make vrchat avatars

vocal shard
#

How

rotund phoenix
#

mixmo

vocal shard
#

?

rotund phoenix
vocal shard
#

Cause that explains everything

prisma plover
#

Minimum age to register a VRChat account is 13 years old I think.

serene anvil
#

Discord servers - 60% vrchat 20% furries 20% memes

vocal shard
#

... what?@

rotund phoenix
#

my brother basically made an account for me

vocal shard
#

Why furries

serene anvil
#

I've come across quite a few of them

vocal shard
#

furries are kinda stinky bro ngl

serene anvil
#

Yea

rotund phoenix
#

a few years later when i was older i found out that vrchat has a discord

serene anvil
#

Mind blown

vocal shard
#

uh

rotund phoenix
#

i was hyped

#

so i joined it

serene anvil
#

Now ur 23 and living in your parents basement right?

#

Nah jk

rotund phoenix
#

wrong

#

i am 14 and i live in my room

prisma plover
#

By allowing someone under the age of 13 to play VRChat on their account, they are breaking the TOS technically.

vocal shard
#

Time to ban

serene anvil
#

Pls no

#

For real tho pls dont

vocal shard
#

Ban time

rotund phoenix
#

technically im allowed for vrchat

serene anvil
#

I have a family

rotund phoenix
#

because im 14

vocal shard
#

No you don't

serene anvil
#

My mom's dead

vocal shard
#

UHOH

serene anvil
#

But I do have a family

vocal shard
#

šŸ˜‰

serene anvil
#

Yes I'm adoptd how tf u know

rotund phoenix
#

i can always come back

slate verge
#

@vocal shard feels great when you're vip to a famous streamer!

vocal shard
#

You don't want to know

#

My parents disowned me when they found out i dont listen to suicideboys

#

Loser

#

Take the L bro

serene anvil
#

I almost committed suicide once...

rotund phoenix
#

it doesnt matter now because now im free

vocal shard
#

Chester Cheetah was the best vocalist for linkin park

serene anvil
#

I got thrown into a mental hospital

vocal shard
#

Nice

#

Cool story bro

slate verge
#

would be wise to talk about vrchat related things in this channel

rotund phoenix
#

free to go back and undo my mistakes

vocal shard
#

Nah

vernal forge
#

Vrchat general going very offtopic

vocal shard
#

Who cares smh

rotund phoenix
#

therefore

serene anvil
#

Actually our topic at core is vrc

vocal shard
#

They must care otherwise they wont be chat mod

#

Gotta take this chat very seriously or else

#

šŸ‘€

serene anvil
#

Ono

#

I can't handle the pressure

rotund phoenix
#

i just wanted to say....

serene anvil
#

I'm gonna go talk to my other friend

vocal shard
rotund phoenix
#

im sorry..... for my stupid behaviour when i was a kid......

vocal shard
#

Dude no one cares

#

you still are a kid at 14

#

Legit lmao

rotund phoenix
#

... actually 14 is when you become a preteen

vocal shard
#

... what

rotund phoenix
#

aka teen

covert linden
#

If you guys need therapy then get therapy this isnt the get help discord qnd its unsafe for us to provide help here. This is vrchat general and you guys are making people uncomfortable with such topics

vocal shard
#

Thats 13 you monkey

rotund phoenix
#

.....

#

you know what i meant

vocal shard
#

Yous monkey boy

rotund phoenix
#

i want banana then

vocal shard
#

NAW you're an ooga booga ape

#

I cant believe this

#

Believe it

#

no

slate verge
#

wish there was an easier way to just search avatars and then they will tell you the recommended worlds on searchable list

vocal shard
#

Nah

#

If they added a name queue, most avatars would just be named random obscenities

#

All my avatars are

slate verge
#

but its also easier to find it via copy and paste

rotund phoenix
#

at least now im actually payin people to make stuff

vocal shard
#

Well they kinda screwed up with the name queue already

umbral reef
#

Would also be an dope way to get rid of all them avatar world's šŸ‘Œ

vocal shard
#

^^^

rotund phoenix
#

are we attacking avatar worlds?

#

yes please!

slate verge
#

nothing wrong with avatar worlds

rotund phoenix
#

except the horrible ones

umbral reef
#

I was more making a joke with how Queens idea would make them more then useless

vocal shard
#

He's being sarcastic

#

K

#

I think what would be a cool idea is qhen you favorite an avatar world, all the avatar ids from that world are saved in your Avatars tab under "Favorite World Avatars"

slate verge
#

would be easier to keep track yes

#

and also tell the source of those avatars

rotund phoenix
#

now if would excuse me im going to enjoy my freedom

vocal shard
#

May be a bit harder to implement a search since avatars are more or less seen as someone else's avatar that they share with you rather than just linked to a world. I know it can be done, but there's other places they should focus

slate verge
#

i guess so

umbral reef
#

It's also a system that would again take a toll on the servers

dapper stump
#

Oknujs world is back up from scratch.. incase curious

vocal shard
#

There should be an increase in tags

#

5 is too little

slate verge
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the search bar needs to be looked at with the tags or keywords

vocal shard
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It is

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You can decide how you search for it, by tags or title

slate verge
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doesn't really work that well cuz typing the full name doesn't actually pull the exact world names instead varies others

rigid crescent
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I think what would be a cool idea is qhen you favorite an avatar world, all the avatar ids from that world are saved in your Avatars tab under "Favorite World Avatars

slate verge
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the only thing the search bar works for is the first word, go ahead and test it out

rigid crescent
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my friend has like a hundred in his world lol

umbral reef
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Maybe they can just fix the searching for world to be an and function and not or

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If I search space avatars I want world's that include space avatars. Not space and the word avatars.

vocal shard
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I see what you mean now

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Yeah that does seem a bit stupid

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Ive noticed that before

umbral reef
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Fairly sure if most old shit got properly tweaked and fixed we would not need so many systems or new ones even

slate verge
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i would like the search bar to actually pull the avatar world in which you typed fully like "infinite space avatar world" boom~ the only world Infinite space avatar world appears.

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but i supposed there could be a reason why it pulls up all other avatars worlds

serene anvil
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I'm making fucking Mac and cheese AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME

weak lantern
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Mic nolonger works. Deleted game and cache and still nothing. Its all setup (Rift Mic and tested my other mic) Tried the mic settings in game and zero

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Anyone had the same issue?

serene anvil
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No

weak lantern
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I think there is an issue with last update. Its jsut not working at all and other games and apps are fine.

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Forgot to try running Oculus app in admin mode and VRchat

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Mic inputs tried are SoundblasterX AE5, Realtec onboard and RIFT

ivory axle
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It should be the rift, other than that im not sire

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Sure*

weak lantern
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Its perplexing this issue XD

random shadow
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have you tried disabling all other mics besides the rift one after launching vrc?

ivory axle
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Maybe check the properties of the rift microphone in the recording devices? Worth a try idk

kindred briar
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Did you set your mic as default device? When you turn on the rift?

slate verge
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some people have really nice voice tbh

safe prism
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thanks i know

vocal shard
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sigh i wish i did

kindred briar
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I dont šŸ˜”

slate verge
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clear worlds playlist failed šŸ¤”

warped dew
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you know I wish the vrchat admins get their hands on the doomsday client then break every possible way to use the thing so it doesn't work

slate verge
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evil

warped dew
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a necessary evil

queen mango
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Source code needed, mind you

warped dew
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ye, but still I'd like to see that shit shattered into a million pieces, because it's probably the key reason no one goes into public rooms anymore

tardy orchid
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can someone help me find ayano tateyama avatar

warped dew
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no one who isn't new*

umbral reef
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@warped dew domsday client isnt a thing tho--
So its hard to break something that aint there

warped dew
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Oclac

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you want proof?

umbral reef
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Feel free

boreal plaza
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Any ETA on some improvements to the crippled networked ik? Right now its just frustrating in so many points....a bit more communication from the devs about it would be really nice instead of sitting in the dark and praying it doesnt need months

ruby needle
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No ETA

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When it's done basically.

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Like always.

boreal plaza
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Yeah thats not really raising any hope. But still thanks for your answer. It was worth a try^^

quiet summit
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Hi people, I want upload content (a avatar) un vrchat, but when I try to upload a avatar with the SDK, a message appears

The messages says:

"Welcome to the VRChat SDK!

Before you can upload avatars or worlds to VRChat, you'll need to spend more time enjoying the app. We do this for security reasons, and so you can learn more about us.

When you get the ability to upload, we will notify you via email and in VRChat. For now, you can learn and test on your own device.

To get started, check out the resources below.

Thank you for your patience, we can't wait to see what you'll build!"

so... it means I need spend more time with the SDK program or with the game? and, how much time I need to spend? It's a bug? If someone else has seen this, how do you fix it?

Thanks. and have a great day :D

desert stratus
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not a bug, gotta spend more time in game

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well, its not actually time - time is a small part of it

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you gotta actually play the game too - make new friends, join worlds, things like that

quiet summit
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Thx dude :D

desert stratus
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np -u-

slate verge
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epic sax guy gandolf ='D

idle anchor
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Good morning

iron light
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uh...

lethal summit
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whats wrong with the BOX map?

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looks wierd
check pictures

desert stratus
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???

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god wtf happened to it lol

lethal summit
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i have no idea... but twice i joined different public worlds and it keeps changing in to that.

snow geyser
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Hey question what would you do if you caught someone you like sleeping/cuddling with someone else and told you she was going to bed and goes offline on discord (and hops on vrc without telling you)

covert linden
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let them like who they want

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if she has to hide something like that it means she was afraid of harming you, you likely gave the impression that was overbearing to them.

safe prism
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  • admit defeat, find another cute boy
  • tell them how i felt instead of brooding
  • cry in japanese
desert stratus
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ye sometimes people just like to keep things like that private for a number of reasons

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it happens > <

vocal shard
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^

desert stratus
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rest assured its likely not out of any mean reasons tho, like rea said they probably dont want to hurt anyone who likes them, or they could just be shy

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youd have to ask at that point

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if u want

covert linden
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You should support them regardless and let them believe that, so there will be no need to hide

desert stratus
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exactly!

inner cape
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or realise that vrc is full of sluts that just sit and cuddle/erp with whoever, as long as they have a cute/"sexy" avatar

rigid crescent
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Facts

covert linden
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nooo

rigid crescent
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Also you shouldn't even need advice for this shit use your head

covert linden
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At least hes asking for advice instead of being hostile towards her lol

snow geyser
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Cause my close friend caught someone in act she fact liked him but (friend is a guy) and few hours ago she caught her cuddling/sleeping with another guy in friends only world made by her so he left and started having emotional breakdown and called me for help so yeah idk how to handle this situation

rigid crescent
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Like you're being taken advantage of and lied to. What do you think ? Lol

safe prism
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this sounds like high school tier drama

inner cape
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LUL

desert stratus
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thats a way of interpreting it

rigid crescent
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Yeah lol

desert stratus
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but okay i guess

inner cape
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aw shit, here we go again

safe prism
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giggle maniacally at how immature the situation is

vocal shard
rigid crescent
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Not put your shit out there to get roasted is a good idea too.

safe prism
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^

rigid crescent
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In public lol.

inner cape
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ay, even if its low tier, is still a problem

vocal shard
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šŸ‘€

covert linden
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Just be mature about it, if she cuddles someone else she isnt entitled to someone whos crushing on er

rigid crescent
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If that happened to me deadass wouldn't be dropping it in public chat in some discord

covert linden
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id just be like ah rip welp sucks 2 suck

inner cape
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true that, mic

rigid crescent
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Post it in /vrg/ at least so it's anonymous 🐸

languid beacon
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@snow geyser accept that she likes someone else and didn’t want you to feel bad about it. Don’t try to get with her and if you want to be around them say you are fine with them wanting to spend time with other people but would prefer they just be honest about it. Don’t complain about it though it’s \insanely\ unattractive.

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If I had a gf I really wouldn’t care what they do in vr tbh it’s just vr. I wouldn’t expect her to care what I do either. It’s not like you can actually touch anyone /shrug

covert linden
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its not even a gf just a crush

stoic halo
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just suck it up is all i have to say lol.

languid beacon
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Ok that’s just being a jealous boi

covert linden
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exactly

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if my boyfriend was cuddling someone else and lied id be rather upset, but if it was a crush they dont belong to me, they arent entitled to being loyal, and its best not to let jealously lead

inner cape
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vrc general btw

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v r c

languid beacon
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VRFlirt

vocal shard
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VRP

pliant flame
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How dare you VRflirt with my crush

languid beacon
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I will RP being jealous at you!

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but for real let people have fun in VR

pliant flame
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But in all seriousness. It’s only a crush. I can understand someone being a little jealous about it, but to have an emotional breakdown?

languid beacon
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I have found VRChat to be entirely drama free. Which is a breath of fresh air. Or maybe I’ve just somehow avoided all of it

pliant flame
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That’s a big red flag tbh

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You somehow avoided drama

stoic halo
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I've only had a taste of drama, but it was someone trying to bring drama in a group for no reason and i kinda just bitched at them to shut the fuck up till they left lol

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they just randomly joined us while we were playing a game just to bring drama in

pliant flame
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I rarely have drama on my end, but there are a quite a few people who have drama that I’ve encountered

stoic halo
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ive never had anything other than that.

desert stratus
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drama is weird

pliant flame
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I think drama arises in VRC when people take it too seriously in the game

languid beacon
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I’m honestly surprised at how mature of a community there is here. Random, spammy, meme loving, but mature

desert stratus
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eh, i think drama just arises naturally the same way it does IRL

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yeah

placid zealot
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Ditto Solarapple, though I feel like people do stupid things more easily in VRC because they feel there is less consequences or feel they have more anonymity.

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That's what I think atleast.

agile nest
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i guess in that same vein, the reason that one might not see drama in vrchat is the same reason

inner cape
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mature

pliant flame
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Oh for sure. That’s just the internet in general

agile nest
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one might not see drama irl in public

inner cape
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think again, adeon

desert stratus
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VRChat does breed toxcitiy easier in IRL out of sheet ease

pliant flame
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I know a lot of people claim that the VRC community is just toxic as hell

desert stratus
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most IRL drama, workplace or highschool (where it tends to occur the most), takes place in controlled environments where engagements are forced

placid zealot
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It is the internet in general yeah. But VRC just makes in a bit more then that I think the scale of mistakes to be made is sometimes a bigger. Since instead of just text you are technically in the same room as a whole lot of other people.

pliant flame
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But I think it’s the fact that toxic players are just louder

desert stratus
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you cant just call out your coworker on stuff if ur the kind of person to do that

inner cape
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thats a really good point, orion

desert stratus
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but in VRChat, nobody is stopping you from going into a private world, rounding up some of your friends and joining everyone else just to talk shit about someone

placid zealot
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Stupid players doing stupid things and toxic players being toxic 🤷 There's always people without boundaries.

desert stratus
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its one of the many examples of why there's potential for really bad stuff to go down

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but imo its the main reason why it cam get widespread and extreme very quickly

pliant flame
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The power of social games can be helpful as it is harmful

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Sadly there will always be toxicity in any game one plays, that’s something that can’t be helped.

languid beacon
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I guess I’ve been part of some pretty toxic and drama filled communities if the VRChat crowd are angels comparison

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But I’m having a great time

rigid crescent
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You managed to avoid it for sure. I love watching the spicy stuff from the sidelines tho

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I love.a good scene

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That's why VRC Twitter is so much fun tanabae

languid beacon
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Maybe that’s it I just never feel personally invested x)

rigid sun
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My only issue on the gf/not gf thing is one simple thing

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I am pretty much demi, so i thrive on close personal relationships, regardless of if it's an actual romantic one or not. I have like 3 close friends, 2 of which i trust with mostly everything, 1 i trust with my entire login information.

If they got a new partner, say a new bf or gf, I'd really be truly hurt if they didn't tell me (cause I'd feel they didn't trust me to be privy when we tell each other everything), and a little sad they were with someone else.

Otherwise, so long as my friends are happy, I don't really care. I'll get over whatever feelings of envy or jealousy I have.

rigid crescent
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Yeah with stories by people who seem socially inept I'm wary. Too many times I've seen stories like that and the other party is like "wtf weirdo" because people manufactured some relationships or feelings and projected it on the focus of their affection lol

dapper stump
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That wasnt one simple thing šŸ¤”

umbral reef
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Wait your saying your not my special e-waifu mic?

rigid crescent
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tanabae you could never afford me

rigid sun
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It's pretty simple when you break it down.

Trust me with stuff

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Otherwise I just want you to be happy 😃

umbral reef
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Wait your not the one paying my stuff šŸ¤”
Then who is..

rigid crescent
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Lol that's when the internet would be turned off

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I like knowing stuff :3 secrets are fun and I'm good at keeping them

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Just knowing the spicy deets 🤤

rigid sun
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My entire thing is that I will absolutely put "relationship" level stuff on people but only if they're okay with it. Like, if you're not, I won't, and I will usually ask before I do it.

rigid crescent
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It's partially why I have a drool emote of myself lol

rigid sun
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Like, say, giving my entire username/password combo to my best friend or giving them my location on google maps (for... depression concerns)

rigid crescent
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And I getting a tea sipping one

rigid sun
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Like if they said that was too much or said they didn't want it, I'd just say "okay. Cool."

People try to force people into awkwardness with all that. I explained why I offer that stuff too (my username/pw stuff is because, well, I almost died once before and I have a lot of people's information tied to my own accounts @.@ i'd like for them to be able to access it if something were to happen to me)

covert linden
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Issue is this guy likely didnt provide a reason he should trust, he was likely overbearing and so she simply pushed it on

rigid sun
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exactly

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that's the problem, sorry, i'm... not wording things well. Working from home and I did not get any sleep last night due to stomach things

covert linden
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If you are laying heavy on someone they're likely to start hiding

rigid sun
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yup yup

rigid crescent
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Yeah I've had to avoid too many people dropping those L bombs just because I was nice to them mimi

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So scary.

umbral reef
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Thats why i am just an unlovable asshole and push humans away constantly šŸ‘

rigid sun
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Also remember it varies person to person. For example, the person I trust with my user/pw stuff is also someone i've known for 14 years and is basically me but female @.@ (with some variations. I think i have more confidence in being myself)

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(but she knows way more factual information)

inner cape
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account sharing spotted, someone bring the ban hammer

rigid crescent
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LOL

rigid sun
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um.... they don't know my vrchat stuff unless they get into my manager lol

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i was just talking my master account info for alllllll the things

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afaik they haven't logged in to anything

inner cape
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too bad

rigid sun
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didn't get the little alert thing that tells me someone in india tried logging into my account

rigid crescent
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VR Cops are on the way

rigid sun
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oh no

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whatever shall I do..... looks at my steam list of 200+ games and 100+ ps4 games

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.> i will be so bored without vrchat

inner cape
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bruh

rigid crescent
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Lol imagine wanting to play the games you paid for on stwam

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Must be nice.

rigid sun
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I wish i wanted to

rigid crescent
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Been streaming Telltales Walking Dead which has been fun

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That's about it for other games

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Oh and Minecraft server my friend has

rigid sun
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neat

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Ugh, I hate working at home for certain reasons

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but imma move that to public

rigid crescent
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Just say it's because you can't work and play VRchat

small wing
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yall ever go around lobbies as a can of beans asking people to eat you?

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šŸ˜

rigid crescent
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I just accuse people in movie theaters of doing it

small wing
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Thatta boi

rigid crescent
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Aw

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And of course by movie theater I mean the movie world in VRchattanabae

sour dagger
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hello people

blazing patio
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Is this a support chat of vrchat

sour dagger
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idk

umbral reef
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Dont advertise dude. No one cares or wants to join and its highly annoying.

sour dagger
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well i didnt know because im new to discord my bad

ruby needle
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It's called Common sense...

small wing
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makes a burner account to spam pretending to not know the rules > Server has a rules channel > big rage

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I know that all too well on my server sadly.

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bigger memes

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šŸ˜

sour dagger
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biggest rhanos snap memes

languid beacon
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Yeah the chance of a server owner not having a profile pic is very unlikely

sour dagger
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*thanos

languid beacon
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Burner account

sour dagger
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um wut

small wing
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Let alone him saying he is new but cannot understand rules, yet somehow knows how to make a server.

languid beacon
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Oh we weren’t talking about you.

sour dagger
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i have2 people on my server

spiral patrol
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Hello

small wing
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Heyo

sour dagger
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someone showed me how to make a server

small wing
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Tell them they are a horrible teacher then lol

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Spamming is how u get banned fast.

sour dagger
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mk i will

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oh ok

spiral patrol
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I can't find where to log into vrchatsdk on unity, I did on a different version of unity but i forgot where it was.

small wing
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Can sense a bit of sarcasm there too.

spiral patrol
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nevermind, found it

small wing
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Ye @spiral patrol make sure futureproofing is unchecked too

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otherwise you bloat the upload size which will take a bit longer to upload.

sour dagger
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can someone help me

covert linden
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depends you gotta ask the question first.

rigid crescent
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Wish they'd opt out of front page :3

sour dagger
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mk how do i change my discord profile picture

rigid crescent
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You didn't even read the rules what is this timeline

small wing
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Did you google it first?

rigid crescent
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I'm deceased

sour dagger
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nope im new

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just created an account

tribal orbit
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Then google it

rigid crescent
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Eh this is boring I think I'm done lol

tribal orbit
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You’ll find better answer there than here

rigid crescent
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We don't get much high effort these days sadly

sour dagger
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ill figure it out then

small wing
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šŸ‘Œ

tribal orbit
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Agreed