#vrchat-general-2
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still want links to the actuial worlds
Vowgan gave me a tour of the portal test map early on. It's quite nice. https://i.imgur.com/orTHo3v.jpg
He's elusive though. Is only ever in the game to test. And never for long.
When will VRChat run doom
I remember seeing someone emulate Wolfenstein 3D in littlebigplanet a long time ago
Can VRchat run crisis š¤
VRChat has already run doom via a shader. š
Shaders are genuine black magic.
what about duke 3d
Some day shaders will become advanced enough that we can have life like conversations with them, indistinguishable from your preferred reality of choice.
Hopefully we can live in harmony together, that they don't rebel and overthrow us.
Was it shaders or scripts that allowed for video streaming in VRChat
I mean technically all those older raycast games were just a shader
All they did is sample and stretch textures
the real black magic is texture mapping
i love coming across avatars that actually use bump/normal maps on their clothing
Wack
and not just the really bad, really weird maps on some worlds
I would and have mine available but decided with all the flat shading in vrc it wasnāt worth the texture memory
normal maps arent making your model look any better, theyre just made for optimisation
I mean their original purpose was for baking high poly detail into lower but realistically they are for higher texture lighting detail manually painted instead of modeled and baked
finding a model with normal maps doesnt really make it look any better than another model without them is what i meant to say
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Oh yeah my avatar is a kitbash and I ditched all my normals
Was just unnecessary and didnāt add much

Less than 24 hours before the quest users start coming in
Canāt wait for the servers to go into meltdown when they all go offline cause of the player influx
I donāt think they will compare to the PC player count
I think youāll be lucky to find one
True
Itāll be more funny to see all the work they put into the quest to just see no one use it
Quest is likely to get very popular. If VRC sees some of that it will be a slow process
For now it will just be day one hobbyists
Watching reddit, seeing a number of people saying they're buying quests for their kids 
Yeah itās basically a console so that isnāt unusual
kfg
Yeah. I still want one
I want one but index exists
I thank valve everyday for saving us from Facebook
Index exists, but unfortunately Canada is left out 
I thank Oculus every day for making the VR war exist in the first place. None of this would be happening if not for Palmer thatās just facts
Oculus is no more for a long time
Source?
It is Facebook now, I highly doubt that Oculus would try to push screen exclusives
Oh your just memeing
If facts are memes for you, so be it I will not argue
Pretty sure oculus still exists they release a headset tomorrow
I mean I could be wrong about that š
We have healthy competition WMR headsets and Steam vr headsets. Oculus is not needed
Wouldnāt have happened without the dk1 Kickstarter is my point
While I'm still not a fan of Facebook. Without oculus's focus on the entry-level and mass market with things like the quest, VR could easily fail again. valve is aiming for the enthusiast market of the current VR user base which is only about 20%

I would argue that screen exclusives are worst thing that happened on pc for a long time
The biggest danger to vr is the pcmr crowd making public opinion think Quest is bad
Yes we all hate exclusives. But it's a proven way to sell systems. Been a huge part of the console wars for years. Almost every company thinks money first, customers second
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Hi
Going to go out on a limb and say many people here were babies in the 90ās. Nothing wrong with that; they just missed out on the values of a technology war. Video games are a huge industry right now for a reason
Havenāt really been a thing since the Sony / Xbox stalemate
It just serves to get us better headsets sooner and cheaper everyone wins
Yea but the Vr market is right now fairly small
Its not been that long since some games could sell million coppies...
Exclusive games are a big part of that and weāre in the 90ās too
still is for Nintendo
And the fact we are fairly limited with tech so people are just inventing 'new ways to use VR' instead like facebook just dud and what HTC will also do.
We need the quest to start marketing with "blast processing"
Lol
Oculus does what vivonāt
Lol
Thinking about the quest, it has fixed foveated Rendering to help a bit. Wonder if that has enough of an impact where it could be an option for PCVR. I know we have more powerful systems, but every little bit helps
Time will tell how moddable it is if they can get it unofficially tethered. With screens the same res as a vive pro / index, at $399 you can bet most people will buy it just to mod it
Its only sideload
Thatās not a very Facebook thing but it is a very Carmack thing
And even that is fairly limited from what i understand
What? No I'm not talking about quest on PC. I'm talking about fixed fovated rendering for PCVR
True. Just from the Vive pro eye conference they made it seem like an RTX card was almost required for that for the variable rate shading. Idk.
I'm just excited to see what comes out in the next years
Yeah vive pro eye makes me want to hold off on Index idk
@languid beacon I'd agree with you on the benefits of a console war if we were actually seeing tangible improvements in the tech. When it came to Nintendo vs Sega and Sony vs Microsoft, we got better hardware with each iteration. With the Quest we get worse hardware, worse tracking, less visual fidelity in the games, lower framerate, etc, at the same price point as the previous generation. What needed to happen was a massive price drop in Gen 1 hardware; Rift and Vive should have both dropped in price for low end market accesibility while Vive pro, Index and Rift S ||if you can even call Rift S an upgrade|| hit the market at Gen 1 price points. Right now Oculus is just going for the lowest common denominator and if it catches on we'll just see developers develop towards that and see no growth in the high end market. It's a race to the bottom and is bad.
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Rift S isnāt Rift 2. Itās an S model, just like Appleās S models.
X box Scorpio or whatever it's called still had tangible benefits over the predecessor
Like the Wii revisions that got rid of GameCube support itās just a more targeted demographic rather than an upgrade
Rift S has several compromises with only small improvements
That means itās not for you
But there are people who disagree and itās exactly what they wanted
If oculus gets the sales they want they were successful
My point is, that the current trajectory of Oculus has them putting out shittier hardware to capture the low end market, and if it reaches mass appeal then all we'll see is everyone else following suit and any real advancement in vr tech and software will slow to a crawl.
They donāt need people who donāt want it to buy it
I don't care what Oculus needs or wants, I care about what's good for the hobby
Quest is not good for the hobby
What oculus is doing is making vr affordable
what im looking forward to is the oculus full body tracking am i right
Oculus is selling people a go-kart ride when they are expecting a car
Firm the very first Kickstarter they stated clearly their vision is to make vr affordable
Well I hope you enjoy when only go-karts are for sale and no real cars will be on the market anymore
If oculus makes a 1K headset you can say they changed their goals
Again, I don't care about their goals, I care about what is good for the futherment of VR. Oculus is only going to harm our hobby's advancement
I doubt they will It's facebook. Rak makes some good points too.
Ironinc because they were the ones to make it achievable in the first place
Then we simply disagree on what is good for vr and must end it there
Are there any even any original devs in management position within oculus?
Palmer Luckey, the original founder of Oculus left saying he's not interested in their race to the bottom.
With all headsets, you can upgrade your PC to make it run better. Quest will need an entire new headset for an upgrade.
Palmerās quote is āI endorse Oculus Questā
hi
Tbh i love the SteamVR way
Allow for upgrades over time from some parts, better headset from X? get that with controllers from Y
im new to this
Oh, you're right, Palmer posted on his blog saying "this is why this other dude left the company"
K
That "I endorse the quest" seems like a canned response that was probably suggested he say by his former employers
He went in more detail in follow up tweets but yeah
As outspoken as he is I donāt think heād play puppet lol
Or perhaps he does endorse it, either way, doesn't change my opinion on that piece of shit hardware. Hell, even here in VRChat we're already seeing the effects of the Quest. With the networked IK that was rushed out this week because the quest isn't powerful enough to do IK calculations and keep an acceptable framerate. Tupper even stated on another discord "the Quest kind of forced our hand"
Heās a memer not a liar
Meanwhile all of us PC users have had a far worse experience in VRchat thanks to the network IK
Thanks for that facebook!
Yeah, the presentation room was laugable when I was there last night.
Looks like everyone has Parkinsonās
I was seeing drawing in the air as the person was walking away.
Not just its new hype good?

no it's like legit good
Already been in quite a few of the games / apps
YouTube VR is amazing. Also there's a streetview MP one called Wander
also amazing
yeah tbh say what you want about the quest but i think people are underestimating its hardware
I just hope enough people upload android builds on vrc
as well as what devs can do with mobile hardware
My opinion is it's great for what it is. The rest of us that want quality are getting hurt though.
Yeah people donāt understand how beneficial it is for game devs to have the user hardware specs garunteeed
If it runs for you it runs for everyone
But it also means they have to pick markets
i mean, if the vrc team wants to add index finger curling then theyre gonna have to loop back to focusing on the pc base eventually
That already happens with PSVR and PCVR
Then we have oculus exclusives
And now quest also
Nothing wrong with exclusives
worst case scenario the time between focusing on the quest and focusing on pcvr means that we get better optimization, even if its breaking shit right now
If you want everything crossplay you get common denominator games
Ow yea as we have loads of good VR games already that exclusives are worth doing...
So VRPill, are you happy with the worsened experience networked IK has brought to all your users?
I'm thinking the quest will bring back interest in avatar worlds
I played Second Life for over a decade. If you couldn't run shadows, you turned them off. Here in vrchat, if you can't run normal IK, they turn it off for everyone. smh.
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He canāt answer heās flossing down the street with a headset on becasue he can

@desert stratus Games already broken in billion of ways
And even if all bugs gets fixed we have loads of wrong or more lacking information ingame still...
Networking IK is still being worked On. There's only so much they can test in small units. To perfect it, they might have needed to apply it to the whole game to finalize it. Once network IK is finished, it should be better than the old system
It's been in beta for literally months and the same problems we saw back in december still exist, along with new ones
Everything in this game is being worked on... Legit take a look at there documentation page :')
Its hard to find a system thats thats fully completed. Its a meme by now sadly.
I'm not very hopeful on that.
There's a complete lack of interpolation which was a complaing myself and several others made back in december
Some polish on specific systems would help the game loads more then just new things.
yeah thats the one thing i dont get, why they can't just hold off all of the new creator tools and completely rewrite the backend and not just the api and what not
Even doing small shit like making clear the merge system wont move favorites if the VRchat acc has any type of favorites would help. (Its one of the few things that highly annoy me with how badly its documented)
The amount of people who dont know we have a particle limiter is also insane.
There is almost no need to disable particles unless you really dislike them.
good IK!
havent been to mogra in a while.....
thanks Quest!
But ey- Ima just stop complaining as i do that enough already in here and im sure some people dont like me saying these things.
Networking IK was in development before the quest. They mentioned it back early 2018. Other than the model lag and jerkiness, the game runs better. Let them work on it in the real environment. Testing it in beta in private servers might not give them the real world environment they need to tune it for 10k+ users at a time.
best case scenario is either they get it working or fix the game's load hard enough that they can bring it back locally. or would bringing it back locally never be feasible?
It would be nice to hear that from a DEV. To know it's actually being fixed.
oof hopefully we get some news in june then
Yes Jamie, I know it's been in development for a long time. But it was pushed live last week, before it was ready. BECAUSE OF THE QUEST. https://i.imgur.com/fNIyHEg.png
Just got out of Dance Central. They have multiplayer was hilarious joining a multiplayer session. Just people wailing their arms around.
nice lol
Wrong channel btw pill
hahaha
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hey everyone
Hey
Hey
I played some VRChat yesterday after a long hiatus. Seems like my custom avatar was wiped. I assume that there was some breaking changes to the SDK?
That explains everything then.
I need help with my Oculus Quest can someone help how do I unblock avatars
Does anyone here use openvr twitch overlay ,not to be confused with ovrdrop.
I cant get chat to aappear on below flipped on my left controller
Why not just use ovrdrop
Im cheap at the mo lol
Isnāt it like 5 dollars lul
Not in the uk
Im savingas much as i can to get a new rig for my twitch streaming setup
OVR is not that well designed imho and I got it for free even
Might have been updated since a year ago though
Not that ive seen on github
In fairness it was probably designed more with vive in mind
But it was very confusing in touch
Yeah i get it showing on screen and in world just not on controller
No way i just got it to work lol
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Niiice
I changed values agaian and reset
when i tried vrchat i did not like it at all. I went off for like 3 months and then gave it a go again. I was in love with the game and the people who are their... vrchat helps me live and be myself. And when im sad i go play vrchat. I dont know what to say tbh...
Just say that the Ik system sucks rn and your intregrated into chat
I have it working but not showing in stream hmmm
Pretty much
Great story
thanks...
Brought a tear to my eye
it helps me get away from the real world where i get bulled and beat up constantly... I'm happy that i saved and for a new pc and vr and bought it... I'm happy that i found this game
Have you ever tried fighting back
A metal lunchbox full of rocks can work wonders against bullies
I speak from experience
... no i haven't
^ lmao i did exactly that
Hell yeah
For some reason i didnt eat lunch the one day this kid started talking smack. And i snapped when he took my phone and dangled it above those like flood drains. Smacked his head with a full metal lunch box
It was cash
vrchat saved my life...
oh no
Yikes donāt rely on this game as a complete escape from the real world
Thatās not healthy
i know tbh
Maybe the whole furry part is the real issue buddy
careful. Never know what will happen in vrchat future.
Lmao
yeah
tbh i only have 13 hrs in the game oof
even if you think its fake im fine with that tbh... its not
Did it save you from being straight? Otherwise i think youre looking at it in the wrong lens
I mean that's good for you and all, but you sound like you need actual professional help dude
Get a therapist and maybe someone from animal control
i know i do and oof
Don't use VRchat to save your life. It's a nice distraction from actual reality but in the end you have to deal with your real life problems before you can be happy. And I say this as someone with more vrchat hours than most people here
Itās probably a good idea to seek professional guidance
Can you guys tone it down with the aggressiveness ?
Can we get a bluestacks build of desktop vrchat so pc users can use quest content
Omg is that bichnuggets sponsored by coke
Even when in a world alone, vin?
yeah i know and i still do have to
@worthy oracle i think it depends on the other users around you with their mic settings
It's either other people's mics/speakers picking your voice up, or your audio settings are incorrect
yeah

who is izzy xoxo they have like multiple accounts and messaged me randomly asking if i wanted to be their gf lol
and they wouldnt stop talking to me lol
My boy izzy
i dont wanna be their gf tho
@jovial veldt i talked to them before, its better to just block them.
Izzy is addicted to erp tbh
Thats hot
thats making it worse
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i wouldnt take any of the bs
so like is he a normal chill dude or what i know nothing about them if they were just tryihng to be funny than fine lol
Heās chill just addicted to e dating and erp
ah ok we i was reverse trolling him and he blocked me lol
If it becomes harassment, report it to moderation@vrchat.com

like it was no problem to me but idk if it might be a problem to others
Nah he is just a kid being a kid
yea
Chill and Normal dont mix
ok so long story short my discord kinda did a thing where we all changed our pfp to the snapchat girl filter soo i think he saw that. It's been a week now so i changed it back but that was most likely the case
Solid yikes
XD
With the filter I look like I Carly
idk how people enjoys themselves with that filter seriously.
oh its hilarious!
#general-media pls
@languid beacon yes
quest gameplays are actually okay, but its terrible due to the awful mirror and exclusion from pc content
hi
I think the quest can do the vrc mirror shader itās just not recommended ?
I could be wrong I will see soon
Most crossplay worlds use the āpotato mirrorā ie only reflecting avatars
I'm assuming Vive Cosmos when it comes out will run vrchat too?
If itās at least as powerful as quest and runs either windows or android I canāt see why it wouldnāt. If it runs some third target platform who knows
Well all speculation but what Iread is that it will be using the latest mobile chip. Not the two year old one.
Weāll get some funky triforce venn diagram for crossplay
Plus maybe full body potential.
Still not 100% surebwhat vive cosmos is
Is that before or after vive pro eye
My assumption was itās like a quest with the option to be a pcvr display
@languid beacon the vive cosmos is more like a rift s
But will one day have the āfeatureā to be like the quest
Who knows how much money it will cost for āwirelessā
Ive the vive cosmos ran on a mobile chip itd be abpe to run witj the quest stuff likely but even if it was heavier, stronger, it wouldnt see any more than the quest.
Becase theyre not gonna make a quest version and a cosmo version if the quest version can run on the cosmo version. Imaging telling people to upload 3 versions lol
Personally from what Iāve been reading about the cosmos..... itās a scam
The cosmos seems like it was forgotten
No not forgotten just announced to early
Scam is a big word to just throw around. But I have been burned by HTC to harshly to defend them.
So sure
Well I use āscamā lightly
I doubt many games wanna make a third version so that the cosmos can see better graphics.
Quest beat them and itll be harsh against tjem
Why would they need to make a 3rd version?
Yeah itās like the PS2 getting GameCube quality graphics because the art is already done
It has a pc cable
We are talking the future āstandaloneā Cosmos
They wouldnt. But for the games if its trying to be standalone, they cant use the pc assets on a mobile proccessor
And games dont wanna make a quest version, then an improved graphically cosmo version, and a pc button
oh
does OpenVR also allow for graphical scaling, or is that a SteamVR feature?
Unity makes that comparatively kinda easy tbh
Does every single vr game use unity?
No
Unity is just a good engine for vr atm
For vrchat itd be hard. Because try telling people to make 3 versions
Other games could either though just give cosmos its extremely optimized content, or go back and do the whole proccess again but for cosmos
quest VRChat makes more sense if it were open to any mobile VR
quest is the first big mobile VR standalone though, at least backed by devs
How long battery life does the quest have? And how long does it take to charge anyone know?
Mhm maybe Iāll just google
Can be plugged in while playing tho that defeats some points
2-3 hours people say
Oof owwie
Thatās not a lot
What worries me is if it's like phone batteries, they will only last that long the firs few weeks you own it.
I donāt doubt the quest is āgoodā but I still think in terms of mobile vr itās still to āearlyā in the stages
What do u guys think of the new cross play pug?
When we get Quest 2, it won't make anything better either because everything will be made or Quest 1 still.
Well itās an overclocked snapdragon running a over 4K display at 70 fps what do you expect lol
I havent seen it when its crossplayable but the old one kills my frames
With multiple IMus and cameras
There wonāt be a quest 2z
Theyāll be a Quest S
LOL
The new one will definitely give ur frames back @covert linden
Thats nice but is it a 10person maxm
And very ālimited spaceā
Yikess
My friend is getting the quest, even though he has a pc that can use a regular vr headset like the vive/oculus. I still think heās crazy for not going for one of those
well vrc muted my voice changer. -.-
Yep it does that
Generally a bad idea to put audio on the windows version of a cross play avatar because quest users wouldnāt know that theyāre doing it cuz they wonāt hear it
Quest sounds like a HUGE down grade. >->
A lot of VR chat desktop users are going for quests, not realizing itās an entirely different section of content
Technically its not downgrade
Because people who its targetted ffor itll be their first vr
So thats an upgrade to them
Yeah but for people who already experienced a VR chat on desktop, I think they expect to be able to visit all the same places in VR and they wonāt be able to
Yeah thatll be super suckyyyy
Iām expecting a few of them to put on the headset and suddenly say wait where did all of my favorites go
I don't get why existing Rift owners are "happy to ditch their Rift"
If Quest catches on enough that might actually be really bad for VR as a whole
What the S got over rift?
Also my wmr broke after like 2 months of use and im sad about it
Inside out tracking which personally I adore. Its also higher res
Less usbs, its all perfect for someone who cant exactly setup sensors like me,
Oh and instant roomscale!
Sounds good. Whatās inside out tracking all about?
It means sensorless tracking, so you dont need to put things around your room instead its camera based.
What it does is it makes a 3d map in your room and places the controllers and you in it
Its easier to get roomscale as your playspace isnt limited by what the sensors can reach, roomscale means you can crouch, walk in any direction etc
Only flaws is you cannot put your hands behind your back andd move them for a long period of time, as theres no cameras back there and theyll lock up
The rift needs usb tethered sensors so its hard getting the same freedom
Yee, might get that then when my rift eventually calls it quits and dies
Im selling my rift for the rift s
I can get a decent amount for it as it was barely used
Doubt Iāll get much for mine as been using it for over a year
You could get arounnd 300usd on it if you check the prices around where you live for them used
Is anyone else having trouble logging into vrchat
I don't really recommend downgrading to the Rift S at all but whatever floats your boat
I don't get why people are in a hurry to jump on obvious downgrades like the Quest or Rift S
If you already have PC VR, the Quest is a downgrade. If you already have a Rift set up, the Rift S is a downgrade.
Yeah i dont get that, dropping the clearly superior Rift to the Rift S.
It's preference. I would not go back to the CV1 Rift myself after owning on one and comparing with my other headsets. Reviews say the S is an overall upgrade despite what some who haven't used it say. There's trade off's and things weigh out, but reviews have openly said given the choice they'd rather is the S over the CV1
So S and Rift both have different advantages?
Rift S has better lenses. And higher resolution, but inside out tracking rather than external sensors
it downgraded the audio, the rift cv1 has better headphones, but all the other stuff is improved
im still heavily against switching to S becaust inside out lol, i can't stand using inside out.
There is also the convenience of less wires, tho
the guardian setup is a lot easier too
It's not the same as wmr inside out though. As people who've used it say its comparable to 3 sensor rift. Even use it to play echo arena, passing the disk behind their back. ECT.
Would be a pain trying to plug in external sensors in a small space or lacking outlets to even plug them in.
You can use your own headphones with the rift s cant you?
the only downside of the new inside out tracking is that it feels like your oculus controllers are upside down
No adjustable IPD
the ring is on top now
80 hz
Thats okay if youre in the ipd range.
There's more to it than the audio
Better lenses though which in practice allow for much larger IPD range than is officially stated. And the lower HZ screen has lower persistence which balances it out and every reviewer has said they've looked to see the lower HZ and cannot see it. Those arguments had more weight before it was tested, but the more people test it, the more say those aren't an issue as people originally thought
Rift S is not a downgrade to the Rift - at the very least it's a side grade.
There's no good reasons to get a rift over a rift s if one is a newcomer to vr
It's a refresh of the same line. Side grade overall. But definitely not a bad headset. Just not enough of an overall headset to change if you already have a rift
^
What about those who lack the space or outlets for their Rift or Vive?
Surely WMR or Rift S, or Quest could appeal to these sorts of demographics.
I think inside-out tracking like the rift-s is the future... It's already good enough for 95% of VR situations, they just need to solve the blind spot issue and it's perfect.
(cameras on the controllers themselves????)
hello i am banshee but on vrchat known as Zariese the welsh dragon
Many feel the rift S screen alone is worth it. Here's the pixel density comparison to the Vive pro and Odyssey+ http://imgur.com/Jsp0Plx
could anyone help me with my avatar creation??
#avatars-2-general. Peeps there can help you there.
I want the rift s so bad eeksdee
Ive had bad luck all.my tech as of recently has been breaking.. my wmr.. my battery charger.. like nani tf
Same here. Atp, none of the detractors are gonna convince me otherwise.
Least my laptop still works.. for now
My bad luck scares me, my pc parts better not break
Just needed to save enough money and hope they still are willing to continue to sell VR headsets in the Philippines, whether online or retail
If not u could get a friend to ship it to you
That's what I did, actually.. but he needed to hold it off for now as he is currently searching for a new job.
He got fired from the factory job a month ago for reasons out of his control
Id help u with that except the way canada shipping is. Itd basiczlly be the cost of the rift s anyway
There are services such as this if you need somthing shipped to whereever you are: https://www.shopusa.com/
Oh wow
Ehh.. Philippines here. We do have a retailer.
https://benstore.com.ph/315-vr-headsets
Anyways, I still have to consider first the PC parts I have to buy with the money I'm currently saving up for.
So that may be a while, or another half-year.
oof - yeah not having a gaming pc already really ups the cost
Oh labels on the blocked avatars?
Depending on reason
I wish itd at least be suited to your height
if you manually blocked them it's a š« symbol
Yeah they need to make it match the height of avatars or a lot of stuff would be fucked up @covert linden
Pretty sure the new diamondboi avatars do obey height, but i don't know if the grey : | robots do
The diamond bois dont as far ad im aware
The seem to be all the same height
Aaye my canny has 64 updates woah
Hsdhf its on the front feature pagee thats so awesome ima cry
It's funny, first thing she hears when entering the hub. "ARE YOU AN ACTUAL QUEST USER?"
how to fix my animations on keyboard my shift and f1-f10 not working
It's highly avatar dependent. Is it your own upload?
@languid beacon so the diamondo avatars TRY to be the same height but usually fail
ive seen too many loli ones and when the avatar loads the avatars massive
Oh, that's probably due to them messing with gameobject scale in unity instead of import scale
people need to do everything via import setting's scale
so animations that touch scale don't bug out

whatever they did in the update, it's completely messed me up and I lag with more than two avatars besides my own loaded
thats odd
Welcome to the club population people with shit internet
one of my vive base stations are blinking red how do i fix this
Yikes
You can't
I had that problem you'll have to send it back to vive for them to fix it
@tiny crescent F in chat
how do i send it back to vive
oh lord, glorious htc support
ok thanks
You're in for a bad time tbh
check their websitee or the little pamphlets that came with ur box and there should be an email/phone number
link
So long as you didn't actually buy it directly from Vive.com, you can send it back to amazon or whatever
if you bought it directly from HTC / Vive, you're out of luck, they have a 14 day return policy after that it's yours forever no refunds
i got it from walmart website
then return it to walmart
ok
how long have you had it?
has anyone experienced unity saying an avatar has 0 polygons
trying to make an avatar and it all looks good in blender but unity wont cooperate
ive had it for 2 weeks
Ohyes @bitter coyote whats up man
@vocal shard hey what's going on man
Why not
I came back
wow every world i go to resets ,y avatars to default really
getting annoyed n pissed off due having to switch back to my own model
i can smell you jon
constently
Advice for when you literally have a vrchat stalker and blocking does nothing also they stalk literally everywhere else on the internet as well
Hoping for an option isn't just ridding oneself of the internet as a whole
or vrchat
are you saying you needed advice or that...that advice is not working?
@viscid wolf Make an alt account
Marry them
That too
Oh lord it's gorefield 
hello
hiyo
@viscid wolf private all of your social media, block said person from all social media, be very careful who you allow into your social circle, don't accept friend requests you aren't sure of, make sure there's nobody in your current social circle leaking information to said stalker
and worst case scenario, call the cops
Calling the police isn't an option when it comes to a vrc stalker lmao
it is if it comes to the worst case scenario
usually most of the time internet things doesn't work in real life
what if said stalker decides to stalk you physically?
what idiot would try to stalk you 24/7 on vrchat really...thats just stupid
They would need to trace your ip to find your address and that's easy to do but most people who play this game are too stupid to figure out how
yeah and how sure are you that it totally wouldn't get to that?
Cause it can be solved with a vpn
just saying, a worst case scenario is a worst case scenario
Did this update add more problems or what
Yep but got you more frames back
Can someone tell me about how long it takes to be upgraded once? I'm trying to upload my own avatar
but for some reason there's a block on me
About a day or two of active play
š® my nitro ran out
L
i cannot use emotes, what is this madness

So I got the sdk to load up to that point on latest unity. Will I have to use the old unity at some point?
or is it a 'issues will probably happen if u dont use it'
What sdk and what version of unity are you currently on
looks like your nitro is still active, this server just doesn't allow outside emotes
unity 2018.2.5f1 personal, and latest SDK
That unity is not compatible with the sdk
ah shoot. overnight download it is. Ok thanks for your help, bye alllllll
The unity version you need is 2017.4.15f1
i questioned vrchat randomness sometimes
i have a friend that is a famous twitch streamer and never knew that.
boom!~ next thing you know, instant vip
Is anybody experiencing not being able to join some worlds?
Like, its just goes back to the "Logging In" screen but never puts you in the world
Had the same thing happen to me Fooni kind of blew my mind how I never noticed it
yeah it feels kinda strange and surprised
where is he???
Hi everyone
hello
I'm quite new here
well heres your first tip
dont pay people with exposure (aka giving credit on the avatar/world)
Oh I wont
Even tho that took me a sec to process cuz I'm 12 yrs old and it's fkn 2 am where I live
XD
I found a thingy in an alt. pug world. -3- left world buuut didnt know if that thing is still going or not
@rotund phoenix what do you mean pay people with exposure
I think I get it but not quite
giving credit on the avatar/world without useing money
Oh I see
Ohyes
So you took something and got banned cause you used it without paying for it
Pepega
no
Oh who here's a girl?
i was asking ofr poeple to help make a avatar
I think I'm the only girl under 16 who plays vrc
and they asked what for
Why is that an accomplishment
Nah you aren't and you most likely aren't a girl but k

Lmao
That's just the tea
my 9 yr old sister plays vrc
Wack
Fair enough there are lots of traps on vrc
... what?
i will find th person who banned me and tell him that ive learned
When in doubt, reverse the numbers. 61 years old x)
That's ban evasion
...
But I'm not a trap
K who cares
XD

Again fair enough
i was banned because i was a 5 year old who knew how to make vrchat avatars
How
mixmo
?
Cause that explains everything
Minimum age to register a VRChat account is 13 years old I think.
Discord servers - 60% vrchat 20% furries 20% memes
... what?@
my brother basically made an account for me
Why furries
I've come across quite a few of them
furries are kinda stinky bro ngl
Yea
a few years later when i was older i found out that vrchat has a discord
Mind blown
uh
By allowing someone under the age of 13 to play VRChat on their account, they are breaking the TOS technically.
Time to ban
Ban time
technically im allowed for vrchat
I have a family
because im 14
No you don't
My mom's dead
UHOH
But I do have a family
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Yes I'm adoptd how tf u know
i can always come back
@vocal shard feels great when you're vip to a famous streamer!
You don't want to know
My parents disowned me when they found out i dont listen to suicideboys
Loser
Take the L bro
I almost committed suicide once...
it doesnt matter now because now im free
Chester Cheetah was the best vocalist for linkin park
I got thrown into a mental hospital
would be wise to talk about vrchat related things in this channel
free to go back and undo my mistakes
Nah
Vrchat general going very offtopic
Who cares smh
therefore
Actually our topic at core is vrc
They must care otherwise they wont be chat mod
Gotta take this chat very seriously or else
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i just wanted to say....
I'm gonna go talk to my other friend

im sorry..... for my stupid behaviour when i was a kid......
... actually 14 is when you become a preteen
... what
aka teen
If you guys need therapy then get therapy this isnt the get help discord qnd its unsafe for us to provide help here. This is vrchat general and you guys are making people uncomfortable with such topics
Thats 13 you monkey
Yous monkey boy
i want banana then
wish there was an easier way to just search avatars and then they will tell you the recommended worlds on searchable list
Nah
If they added a name queue, most avatars would just be named random obscenities
All my avatars are
but its also easier to find it via copy and paste
at least now im actually payin people to make stuff
Well they kinda screwed up with the name queue already
Would also be an dope way to get rid of all them avatar world's š
^^^
nothing wrong with avatar worlds
except the horrible ones
I was more making a joke with how Queens idea would make them more then useless
He's being sarcastic
K
I think what would be a cool idea is qhen you favorite an avatar world, all the avatar ids from that world are saved in your Avatars tab under "Favorite World Avatars"

now if would excuse me im going to enjoy my freedom
May be a bit harder to implement a search since avatars are more or less seen as someone else's avatar that they share with you rather than just linked to a world. I know it can be done, but there's other places they should focus
i guess so
It's also a system that would again take a toll on the servers
Oknujs world is back up from scratch.. incase curious
the search bar needs to be looked at with the tags or keywords
doesn't really work that well cuz typing the full name doesn't actually pull the exact world names instead varies others
I think what would be a cool idea is qhen you favorite an avatar world, all the avatar ids from that world are saved in your Avatars tab under "Favorite World Avatars
the only thing the search bar works for is the first word, go ahead and test it out
my friend has like a hundred in his world lol
Maybe they can just fix the searching for world to be an and function and not or
If I search space avatars I want world's that include space avatars. Not space and the word avatars.
Fairly sure if most old shit got properly tweaked and fixed we would not need so many systems or new ones even
i would like the search bar to actually pull the avatar world in which you typed fully like "infinite space avatar world" boom~ the only world Infinite space avatar world appears.
but i supposed there could be a reason why it pulls up all other avatars worlds
I'm making fucking Mac and cheese AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME
Mic nolonger works. Deleted game and cache and still nothing. Its all setup (Rift Mic and tested my other mic) Tried the mic settings in game and zero
Anyone had the same issue?
No
I think there is an issue with last update. Its jsut not working at all and other games and apps are fine.
Forgot to try running Oculus app in admin mode and VRchat
Mic inputs tried are SoundblasterX AE5, Realtec onboard and RIFT
Its perplexing this issue XD
have you tried disabling all other mics besides the rift one after launching vrc?
Maybe check the properties of the rift microphone in the recording devices? Worth a try idk
Did you set your mic as default device? When you turn on the rift?
some people have really nice voice tbh
thanks i know
sigh i wish i did
I dont š
clear worlds playlist failed š¤
you know I wish the vrchat admins get their hands on the doomsday client then break every possible way to use the thing so it doesn't work
evil
a necessary evil
Source code needed, mind you
ye, but still I'd like to see that shit shattered into a million pieces, because it's probably the key reason no one goes into public rooms anymore
can someone help me find ayano tateyama avatar
no one who isn't new*
@warped dew domsday client isnt a thing tho--
So its hard to break something that aint there
Feel free
Any ETA on some improvements to the crippled networked ik? Right now its just frustrating in so many points....a bit more communication from the devs about it would be really nice instead of sitting in the dark and praying it doesnt need months
Yeah thats not really raising any hope. But still thanks for your answer. It was worth a try^^
Hi people, I want upload content (a avatar) un vrchat, but when I try to upload a avatar with the SDK, a message appears
The messages says:
"Welcome to the VRChat SDK!
Before you can upload avatars or worlds to VRChat, you'll need to spend more time enjoying the app. We do this for security reasons, and so you can learn more about us.
When you get the ability to upload, we will notify you via email and in VRChat. For now, you can learn and test on your own device.
To get started, check out the resources below.
Thank you for your patience, we can't wait to see what you'll build!"
so... it means I need spend more time with the SDK program or with the game? and, how much time I need to spend? It's a bug? If someone else has seen this, how do you fix it?
Thanks. and have a great day :D
not a bug, gotta spend more time in game
well, its not actually time - time is a small part of it
you gotta actually play the game too - make new friends, join worlds, things like that
also, next time use one of the support channels for questions like these like #user-support-old or #avatars-2-general ^ ^`
Thx dude :D
np -u-
epic sax guy gandolf ='D
Good morning
uh...
i have no idea... but twice i joined different public worlds and it keeps changing in to that.
Hey question what would you do if you caught someone you like sleeping/cuddling with someone else and told you she was going to bed and goes offline on discord (and hops on vrc without telling you)
let them like who they want
if she has to hide something like that it means she was afraid of harming you, you likely gave the impression that was overbearing to them.
- admit defeat, find another cute boy
- tell them how i felt instead of brooding
- cry in japanese
ye sometimes people just like to keep things like that private for a number of reasons
it happens > <
^
rest assured its likely not out of any mean reasons tho, like rea said they probably dont want to hurt anyone who likes them, or they could just be shy
youd have to ask at that point
if u want
You should support them regardless and let them believe that, so there will be no need to hide
exactly!
or realise that vrc is full of sluts that just sit and cuddle/erp with whoever, as long as they have a cute/"sexy" avatar
Facts
nooo
Also you shouldn't even need advice for this shit use your head
At least hes asking for advice instead of being hostile towards her lol
Cause my close friend caught someone in act she fact liked him but (friend is a guy) and few hours ago she caught her cuddling/sleeping with another guy in friends only world made by her so he left and started having emotional breakdown and called me for help so yeah idk how to handle this situation
this sounds like high school tier drama
LUL
thats a way of interpreting it
Yeah lol
but okay i guess
aw shit, here we go again
giggle maniacally at how immature the situation is

Not put your shit out there to get roasted is a good idea too.
^
In public lol.
ay, even if its low tier, is still a problem
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Just be mature about it, if she cuddles someone else she isnt entitled to someone whos crushing on er
If that happened to me deadass wouldn't be dropping it in public chat in some discord
id just be like ah rip welp sucks 2 suck
true that, mic
Post it in /vrg/ at least so it's anonymous šø
@snow geyser accept that she likes someone else and didnāt want you to feel bad about it. Donāt try to get with her and if you want to be around them say you are fine with them wanting to spend time with other people but would prefer they just be honest about it. Donāt complain about it though itās \insanely\ unattractive.
If I had a gf I really wouldnāt care what they do in vr tbh itās just vr. I wouldnāt expect her to care what I do either. Itās not like you can actually touch anyone /shrug
its not even a gf just a crush
just suck it up is all i have to say lol.
Ok thatās just being a jealous boi
exactly
if my boyfriend was cuddling someone else and lied id be rather upset, but if it was a crush they dont belong to me, they arent entitled to being loyal, and its best not to let jealously lead
VRFlirt
VRP
How dare you VRflirt with my crush
But in all seriousness. Itās only a crush. I can understand someone being a little jealous about it, but to have an emotional breakdown?
I have found VRChat to be entirely drama free. Which is a breath of fresh air. Or maybe Iāve just somehow avoided all of it
I've only had a taste of drama, but it was someone trying to bring drama in a group for no reason and i kinda just bitched at them to shut the fuck up till they left lol
they just randomly joined us while we were playing a game just to bring drama in
I rarely have drama on my end, but there are a quite a few people who have drama that Iāve encountered
ive never had anything other than that.
drama is weird
I think drama arises in VRC when people take it too seriously in the game
Iām honestly surprised at how mature of a community there is here. Random, spammy, meme loving, but mature
Ditto Solarapple, though I feel like people do stupid things more easily in VRC because they feel there is less consequences or feel they have more anonymity.
That's what I think atleast.
i guess in that same vein, the reason that one might not see drama in vrchat is the same reason
mature
Oh for sure. Thatās just the internet in general
one might not see drama irl in public
think again, adeon
VRChat does breed toxcitiy easier in IRL out of sheet ease
I know a lot of people claim that the VRC community is just toxic as hell
most IRL drama, workplace or highschool (where it tends to occur the most), takes place in controlled environments where engagements are forced
It is the internet in general yeah. But VRC just makes in a bit more then that I think the scale of mistakes to be made is sometimes a bigger. Since instead of just text you are technically in the same room as a whole lot of other people.
But I think itās the fact that toxic players are just louder
you cant just call out your coworker on stuff if ur the kind of person to do that
thats a really good point, orion
but in VRChat, nobody is stopping you from going into a private world, rounding up some of your friends and joining everyone else just to talk shit about someone
Stupid players doing stupid things and toxic players being toxic 𤷠There's always people without boundaries.
its one of the many examples of why there's potential for really bad stuff to go down
but imo its the main reason why it cam get widespread and extreme very quickly
The power of social games can be helpful as it is harmful
Sadly there will always be toxicity in any game one plays, thatās something that canāt be helped.
I guess Iāve been part of some pretty toxic and drama filled communities if the VRChat crowd are angels comparison
But Iām having a great time
You managed to avoid it for sure. I love watching the spicy stuff from the sidelines tho
I love.a good scene
That's why VRC Twitter is so much fun 
Maybe thatās it I just never feel personally invested x)
My only issue on the gf/not gf thing is one simple thing
I am pretty much demi, so i thrive on close personal relationships, regardless of if it's an actual romantic one or not. I have like 3 close friends, 2 of which i trust with mostly everything, 1 i trust with my entire login information.
If they got a new partner, say a new bf or gf, I'd really be truly hurt if they didn't tell me (cause I'd feel they didn't trust me to be privy when we tell each other everything), and a little sad they were with someone else.
Otherwise, so long as my friends are happy, I don't really care. I'll get over whatever feelings of envy or jealousy I have.
Yeah with stories by people who seem socially inept I'm wary. Too many times I've seen stories like that and the other party is like "wtf weirdo" because people manufactured some relationships or feelings and projected it on the focus of their affection lol
That wasnt one simple thing š¤
Wait your saying your not my special e-waifu mic?
you could never afford me
It's pretty simple when you break it down.
Trust me with stuff
Otherwise I just want you to be happy š
Wait your not the one paying my stuff š¤
Then who is..
Lol that's when the internet would be turned off
I like knowing stuff :3 secrets are fun and I'm good at keeping them
Just knowing the spicy deets š¤¤
My entire thing is that I will absolutely put "relationship" level stuff on people but only if they're okay with it. Like, if you're not, I won't, and I will usually ask before I do it.
It's partially why I have a drool emote of myself lol
Like, say, giving my entire username/password combo to my best friend or giving them my location on google maps (for... depression concerns)
And I getting a tea sipping one
Like if they said that was too much or said they didn't want it, I'd just say "okay. Cool."
People try to force people into awkwardness with all that. I explained why I offer that stuff too (my username/pw stuff is because, well, I almost died once before and I have a lot of people's information tied to my own accounts @.@ i'd like for them to be able to access it if something were to happen to me)
Issue is this guy likely didnt provide a reason he should trust, he was likely overbearing and so she simply pushed it on
exactly
that's the problem, sorry, i'm... not wording things well. Working from home and I did not get any sleep last night due to stomach things
If you are laying heavy on someone they're likely to start hiding
yup yup
Yeah I've had to avoid too many people dropping those L bombs just because I was nice to them 
So scary.
Thats why i am just an unlovable asshole and push humans away constantly š
Also remember it varies person to person. For example, the person I trust with my user/pw stuff is also someone i've known for 14 years and is basically me but female @.@ (with some variations. I think i have more confidence in being myself)
(but she knows way more factual information)
account sharing spotted, someone bring the ban hammer
LOL
um.... they don't know my vrchat stuff unless they get into my manager lol
i was just talking my master account info for alllllll the things
afaik they haven't logged in to anything
too bad
didn't get the little alert thing that tells me someone in india tried logging into my account
VR Cops are on the way
oh no
whatever shall I do..... looks at my steam list of 200+ games and 100+ ps4 games
.> i will be so bored without vrchat
bruh
I wish i wanted to
Been streaming Telltales Walking Dead which has been fun
That's about it for other games
Oh and Minecraft server my friend has
Just say it's because you can't work and play VRchat
I just accuse people in movie theaters of doing it
Thatta boi
hello people
Is this a support chat of vrchat
idk
and #vrchat-support first
Dont advertise dude. No one cares or wants to join and its highly annoying.
It's called Common sense...
makes a burner account to spam pretending to not know the rules > Server has a rules channel > big rage
I know that all too well on my server sadly.
bigger memes
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biggest rhanos snap memes
Yeah the chance of a server owner not having a profile pic is very unlikely
*thanos
Burner account
um wut
Let alone him saying he is new but cannot understand rules, yet somehow knows how to make a server.
Oh we werenāt talking about you.
i have2 people on my server
Hello
Heyo
someone showed me how to make a server
I can't find where to log into vrchatsdk on unity, I did on a different version of unity but i forgot where it was.
Can sense a bit of sarcasm there too.
nevermind, found it
Ye @spiral patrol make sure futureproofing is unchecked too
otherwise you bloat the upload size which will take a bit longer to upload.
can someone help me
depends you gotta ask the question first.
Wish they'd opt out of front page :3
mk how do i change my discord profile picture
You didn't even read the rules what is this timeline
Did you google it first?
I'm deceased
Then google it
Eh this is boring I think I'm done lol
Youāll find better answer there than here
We don't get much high effort these days sadly
ill figure it out then
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Agreed