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#vrchat-general-2
urban quartz
calm turret
Does anyone have an idea of when vrchat will update to the new version of unity?
urban quartz
If anyone is looking to explore a world I just uploaded a simple but interesting one. It should be in community labs as "Aquarium Thoughts". Would appreciate if y'all could see it so it can escape the Labs trying grounds. 😃
@calm turret
mira mira mira
urban quartz
idk, i love u
covert linden
<@&397642795457970181> witch hunting***
Not fear monging I meant uh whars it called
umbral reef
Witchhunting rea
vocal shard
Then block them.
covert linden
They can report properly using #moderation-reports
vocal shard
The mods will get to them eventually. The only thing you need to worry about is blocking them.
its being going on for a week
covert linden
Cough #moderation-reports
umbral reef
How did you report them if i may ask?
As just sending a 'He was mean!' wont prove they did it.
covert linden
But how. Ingame? Or with valid proof via email
vocal shard
in game hes 2 suborn 2 email them but i want them 2 leave him alone hes a minor an there an adult
kind wedge
Please take all reports to #moderation-reports , as the others have said. Do not discuss moderation within any other channels.
desert patio
what channel can i post about someone helping me with a script?
i didnt see a script channel
umbral reef
Script as in?
umbral reef
Il assume thats world related to #world-development
Just make sure the stuff your trying is supported by vrchat (check there documentations)
desert patio
well i got it in unity
umbral reef
The game does not allow everything unity does.
A script/thing wont work unless VRchat properly support it.
desert patio
ok tha nku
minor brook
VRCHAT A problem ?
covert linden
What
amber horizon
Why im stuck in loading loop when joining friends?
I cant join any of my friends, what's going on?
safe prism
new feature
program doing haptic noises is calledmidivive.exe
stable pilot
i was here for the fall of VRC
https://media.tenor.com/images/e71dec17746af9d0e3555fbbb9c580f0/raw
ivory hollow
is the game stuck at loading for anyone else?
primal spear
anyone know how i can fix my sensors poor tracking without buying some external thing
covert quartz
This is fine 🙂
vocal shard
earnest ravine
Is anyone else having an issue in VR where they have a black screen to loading screen loop since the latest update?
vocal shard
Everyone is
welcome to the party
golden bluff
Anyone else having the issue where some world preview images are SUPER low res https://gyazo.com/b39117a8046d2f207faf4096926f8466
vocal shard
It's a issue lots of people are having there's a post on the canny about it
unborn dune
I honestly feel that in my time playing from December the performance of this game has only gone down. And it is breaking at an exponential rate too.
queen mango
Have you tried clearing your cache?
autumn mica
its so fun just staring at people 😃
vocal shard
That doesn't sound creepy in the slightest
slate verge
🙏 increase favorite avatar list in the future
slate verge
👌
umbral reef
Didnt they say in the stream the reason they cant up the limit is complex and would take too long/much to explain?
sharp dock
@autumn mica only speak up when youre comfortable. being quiet is alright!
autumn mica
many times i want to get in on convos, but meh my brain stops working by then lul
but its works awesomely since im called AI
people just think im an actual AI
sharp dock
@autumn mica lmaoo. im the same but i try to fight my anxiety / brain errors by still speaking up, even if it means ill stutter or sound awk
thats quite funny tho
AI
woven stone
am I the only one where the screen randomly flips upside down?
and just stays like taht
glass linden
Is there a way to track down what server an avatar came from? I copied mine off someone but I wanna figure out where it came from incase I lose it somehow
rigid crescent
I th ink they said they would explain it later in the video and never did
uncut trail
server lagging
vocal shard
When aren't they
mossy zodiac
Hey Guys. How long do i need to wait until i'm allowed to upload an avatar?
vocal shard
It's not solely time based it's also based on activity and making friends
mossy zodiac
wtf?
vocal shard
The actual way you rank up is not known to prevent abusing it
mossy zodiac
I don't want to be the toxic guy, but that's pretty dumb
vocal shard
No it isn't when you realized the reason as to why
mossy zodiac
and you might understand my viewpoint if you think about it
VR-Chat to representing yourself is part of the experience and i think you can't argue that, otherwise there wouldn't be an flood of avatars... so to limit people the way they can present themself is like a company locking of their consumer phone number with the only way to unlock them by calling them / send them sms... i can't play the gaming, do activity and making friends if i can't use my avatar
vocal shard
You have to prove you are an active member of the community to earn the right to upload avatars it's also meant as a way to prevent against people who ban evade to upload their cancerous avatars
mossy zodiac
and i already searched for atleast one or two hours in the online avatar worlds to find that specific avatars but nope
rigid crescent
that's uh, prettyass backwards comparison
vocal shard
^
mossy zodiac
Well, no not really, because it's the same illogical approach
rigid crescent
LOL
If you can't play the game and make friends and do acttivities, something is wrong with your brain
or else how do these others THOUSANDS of people who don't use personal avatars do it
mossy zodiac
Well, maybe they are happy with their avatars because they get what they are looking for?
i mean if you are into the anime-girl stuff i imagine there isn't real issue to find your prefered avatar
rigid crescent
even if you're not, there's worlds that aren't MMD models
vocal shard
Just get new user then you can complain all you want about how unfair it is you have to wait a couple days to upload your precious oc
rigid crescent
It's litertally just a few sessions of active playtime talking to people and making friends and exploring
you'll be fine being some dude from whatever videogame or a storm trooper or whatever
mossy zodiac
Well i can't because i can't use my avatar and don't find it either
vocal shard
technically it's not yours
rigid crescent
So can't make friends and you can't talk to people and you cant explore worlds without that specific avatar?
mossy zodiac
Yes
mossy zodiac
well i will try to let the game run for 50 hours afk in background - maybe that will help
rigid crescent
Spoiler:it wont
mossy zodiac
i don't care i will try anyway
rigid crescent
sure go ahead
vocal shard
Being afk is counter productive it won't rank you up
mossy zodiac
because i looked up and some mentioned it's 24 hours
rigid crescent
it's not 24 hours
I've gotten it in 4 on alts, i've seen people take longer or less time
vocal shard
It's a unset amount of active time making friends
rigid crescent
well, alt singular.
vocal shard
You have to actually play and meet people
mossy zodiac
that's why i try it with the 50 hours
mossy zodiac
not until i can use my avatar easy is that
rigid crescent
it knows youre just afking
vocal shard
Why do you care so much about being a specific avatar?
rigid crescent
well go ahead though, all you m8. 24 hours is a lie though because people have actively played longer and not got it lol
some people are like old guitars is all
mossy zodiac
well than i will run around the starter room for 50 hours ( private home)
vocal shard
Still wont work
rigid crescent
lol you'll sit iwth the game open and run in circles? won't work but man go ahead
you're just solidifying the whole old guitar thing
vocal shard
It'll literally be so much faster to just go to worlds and talk to people
rigid crescent
nah just let him, some people can't be helped sadly
sage thunder
You literally have to be social and actually play the game to rank up. Not just be AFK but alright you do you boo
vocal shard
Guess so Mic
mossy zodiac
Well there would be some kind of help
vocal shard
Sad to see some people so smooth brained they won't accept advice that works
rigid crescent
Last time before I let you just do your thing. You have to ACTIVELY play and ACTIVELY explore and ACTIVELY meet people and ACTIVELY make friends.
mossy zodiac
either they add an feature where you can use the avatar search bar and search for your specific avatar(because i don't believe that no-one uploaded ths avatar, it's simply way to messy to look for it) or doe something about the timelimit
rigid crescent
If you don't want to, then that's on you but I've told you a solution. You CAN ABSOLUTELY do those things without a custom avatar, anyone who thinks otherwise is factually wrong.
sage thunder
Or just do what the game tells you and actually play.
vocal shard
What avatar are you even looking for that's so important to your life
mossy zodiac
well if you say explore, than i will do that with private worlds
rigid crescent
Go ahead and try.
Don't help him find it lol he doesn't even deserve it at this point
lethal grail
You could mention the avatar you want to find here and see if anyone knows about it as well.
vocal shard
I won't i'm just curious to see what about it is so important
rigid crescent
honestly if he had just opened with that I would've definitely tried to help but after that meh
vocal shard
Same
inner cape
I missed something fun?
sage thunder
inner cape
vocal shard
rigid crescent
your usual acoustics
vocal shard
He's been typing for a while
sage thunder
Oof
mossy zodiac
I would've done that, if there wouldn't be such an aggressive answer from people. I'm simply not comfortable to talking with People (even more in english due i'm not an native) with mic online... even worse if it's an game like VRchat and i see myself rather shy, that's why it's important for me to atleast have an avatar which i feel comfortable with, due it's part of what presents myself(or rather say my Interest) and it would be bit easier to open up. I tried it with spiderman avatar last time and found it weird thats why
vocal shard
There's literally a world filled with spider man avatars and if you opened with that we would have all been a lot nicer
mossy zodiac
nah i don't look for spiderman
that's was the avatar which i tried as alternative due i didn't find the one i wanted to use / have
vocal shard
Well then what avatar is the one that makes you comfortable
mossy zodiac
And also now that i've spent hours with looking some worlds and to set up unity and such, and than i hit such an upload-"wall" it's kinda frustrating that this "effort" is kinda worthless
Link from Breath of the Wild - i found Mipha, skullkid and deku-link, but no BotW Link (or any other link)
vocal shard
I'm pretty sure there's a world with that avatar
inner cape
it takes a few hours of active playing to get the new user rank, can do it in 1 day
mossy zodiac
Well the Zelda-Worlds which i looked in i didn't find him... and the other worlds it's kinda hard to find him due you can't specific search for him and they are filled with avatars
vocal shard
Then just wait it really doesn't take that long to be able to upload
inner cape
^
mossy zodiac
but before you said i can't wait for it but rather have to talk to people and such
vocal shard
Wait by talking to people in game and being active to take your mind off of wanting to complain about it on the vrc discord
sage thunder
Really if you don’t even wanna talk, you can still make friends being a mute. There’s no real reason why you shouldn’t rank up in a day or so
inner cape
you cant afk in private and farm hours played to gain it
but just going to public and making 1 or 2 friends will speed it up immensely, and can be a good experience
what lyrrah said
vocal shard
^^
sage thunder
sage thunder
Lmao
inner cape
we ain't trying to be rude, were just telling you that's how it works and you gotta, well, deal with it
sage thunder
Yeahhh. It’s not the good ol days where you could just instantly make avatars
Gotta avoid the cancerous users some how
vocal shard
sage thunder
mossy zodiac
<.< i'm not an maclaughlin
inner cape
I didn't read the chat above, but I bet you were rude atleast at some point, bully
vocal shard
Not really i was actually much more respectful than i normally am
sage thunder
Mike just go around being a mute that’s perfectly fine. Just show some form of your being active in the game and you’re good to go.
Just saw this conversation as tedious and wanted it to end tbh.
mossy zodiac
secondly i've gone into an avatar room and 've forgotten to go private, and y'know what i meet as first person... scooby doo barks at me and you are surprised that i feel insecure without my avatar
inner cape
Mike, honestly, it doesn't matter how you are, just get out there and see how it goes, if you dont focus on the rank and dont think about it, you won't even notice how you'll gain it in no time
sage thunder
No one cares what avatar your in. They care about the person in it tbh.
inner cape
that's not true unfortunately
mossy zodiac
i know a dog who barks doesn't bite but it seems like VR Chat feels that i'm frustrated over it and now it sends me this stra... interesting peoples towards me
inner cape
your model ain't a slutty, glowing anime girl? get out of here
inner cape
that's how it is around vrc nowadays
mossy zodiac
Na, i tried mipha (Zelda) and maya (Bl2) and that's kinda weird to run as female character around in such an game
sage thunder
I remember the good old Kanna days, just Kannas everywhere
vocal shard
kanna gang
sage thunder
Got annoying but it’s better Than the avatars now
inner cape
those were bad times
sage thunder
I never ran into Kanna gang tbh
sage thunder
Oh LmaO
vocal shard
Cause vrcteam threw a hissy fit tbh
mossy zodiac
well and i thought uganda knuckles would be more of an thing
vocal shard
That thankfully died a while ago
sage thunder
Uganda is basically dead.
inner cape
it was dead long time ago, Mike, wake up
mossy zodiac
well i recently begun to watch VR Chat Videos and streams and still see often this uganda knuckles
might it be somewhat world related or avatar
sage thunder
I was fine with them until the little high pitch kiddos did it
inner cape
those can be still found in the game, just not in knuckles avatars
sage thunder
Yeahh
mossy zodiac
aren't little high pitch kiddos general a issue?
sage thunder
Yeah it is
inner cape
yeah
inner cape
that's illegal
sage thunder
Not tryna get the fbi on me
inner cape
13+ game btw
sage thunder
Yeahh
mossy zodiac
well i tried rec room for 2-3 minigames and couldn't handle it due there is an highpitchkiddo overload
sage thunder
I mean with the avatars that are running around it should be
inner cape
also, excuse me, how can interacting with someone under age get fbi on you
sage thunder
It’s a meme
inner cape
it's a meme if you're trying to [redacted]
so assuming you just used this meme
you were tryna smash
sage thunder
Wah.
inner cape
sage thunder
Lmao
inner cape
LUL
vocal shard
wow
sage thunder
Gg
vocal shard
Fucking toxic bot I swear
inner cape
no u
sage thunder
vocal shard
mossy zodiac
well to be honest, i'm fresh here but the bot seems like a nice and funny guy
inner cape
conversation derailed succesfu- nevermind, Mike is back
sage thunder
Destroy the bots
vocal shard
Don't side with the bot
inner cape
bot is an actual bot, Mike, its not a guy
mossy zodiac
i know <.<
slate verge
autobots roll out
inner cape
or am I being omega retar- yep
sage thunder
LmaO
vocal shard
ohyes
mossy zodiac
though i find you pretty offensive and discriminating...
vocal shard
oh no
mossy zodiac
a bot have feelings too
vocal shard
Bots are meant to be abused
inner cape
dont worry, I'm like that to everything and everyone
lethal grail
So for the BotW Link, found a world called Ketcham1009's Avatar World that has one.
vocal shard
@oblique igloo youre a pretty cool guy
inner cape
did you just
sage thunder
Oh my god.
mossy zodiac
@lethal grail What the fuck is wrong with you, thank you but still sick
lethal grail
What's wrong with me? Did you want a list or something? XD
lethal grail
Just joking, I'm awesome in general.
vocal shard
incoming suicide boys lyrics lmao
lethal grail
And humble
vocal shard
You didn't miss anything he just said that out of nowhere
inner cape
mossy zodiac
@lethal grail fucking amazing i found it!!! Really thank you
delicate perch
is there a way to capture particles for a video? cause it seems they dont capture on camera
vocal shard
The first thing you must do in fullbody is twist your spine
lethal grail
You welcome
inner cape
bruh
vocal shard
moment
@vocal shard that sounds painful
It's a good way to stretch
i just wanna booty pop and make people question themselves
Bruh you cant @ people that is like not allowed and stuff and what have youand what not
inner cape
@delicate perch it should be captured, you must've done something wrong
lethal grail
My first time trying VR Chat. Using Desktop atm, but have a Quest pre-ordered.
delicate perch
something wrong? its one camera?
inner cape
@vocal shard nice name, ping boye
mossy zodiac
Hey another Question, why can't i add any worlds to favorites?
vocal shard
@vocal shard
delicate perch
do only certain worlds allow particles to be mirrored/filmed?
vocal shard
as my one abusive father once said, "we have your threats back traced and you have been reported to the cyber police and the state police"
K
shoutout to abusive fathers for helping make me the degenerate i am today
inner cape
K
vocal shard
mossy zodiac
@inner cape i don't know i try to use the add button but nothing happes
inner cape
they must've broken it again, give it some time
lethal grail
Same for me. Is that something you need blue status for?
vocal shard
not knowing jesse slaughter oh my
rigid crescent
https://puu.sh/DucP6/5433cd8c1d.png holy shit lol
bitter coyote
oh cool, a dev actually being nice
rigid crescent
when are they not 🤔
bitter coyote
that's hilarious
vocal shard
ayyyy im back nice
mortal stirrup
i cant afford free money to buy a vr for vrchat
vocal shard
Then make some money
mortal stirrup
how
vocal shard
work maybe?
mortal stirrup
im 16
vocal shard
so what? go work fast food or something at least its some kind of money
go cut lawns idk go hustle you can do it i believe in you
mortal stirrup
u know what your right
vocal shard
work sucks, life sucks, might as well get used to it now man
He's desktop and 16 yikes
bitter coyote
people that still say yikes, that's wikes
vocal shard
Wack
mortal stirrup
thats why i want the vr to get away from reality life bites u in the ass
rigid crescent
@umbral reef did you see that
vocal shard
thats why im all about vr gimme that ready player one lifestyle makesup for all the hardships in life
ruby needle
reality is reality tho
vocal shard
reality is boring once you had enough of it
mortal stirrup
im 16 and had enough can u imagine
ruby needle
VR is a nice thing but it's not a replacement for reality. Actually, if you see it as one be very carfull not to drop into a deep addiction.
vocal shard
like 40% of vrcs player base has
tell that to my many virtual waifus
Judging by your advertisement in here earlier i'd have to disagree and say you don't have any
mortal stirrup
i never played it but i think vrchat is better than fortinte
vocal shard
That's just the tea
cough
Need a cough drop
Did you guys hear that? It must have been the wind.
mortal stirrup
and i opp i mean fortnite
vocal shard
Okay so question I have about the game. Why am I not trusted yet? I have over 3k hours on VRChat and have been playing since Oculus DK2 Dev kits were out.
I no get it
Probably since so many people have blocked you it's canceled out those hours
That's my guess
I don't think anybody has me blocked
You can check on vrchat network
ornate finch
ok
rigid crescent
youre probably wrong
vocal shard
It's a mystery I don't think anyone can really answer. Something with the algorithm.
rigid crescent
check the api
vocal shard
arent there extensions you can use for that or something
rigid crescent
yup
vocal shard
:c
ruby needle
Please do not link to third party websites like that 😃
vocal shard
fine
man i just went there and that smells of phishing
not really lots of people use it
For real though. Where is my trusted Rank on my account? Well over 3k hours on VRChat and still not trusted. lol
ruby needle
It's never been about time
vocal shard
I have known player rank but not trusted
Probably cause you aren't trustworthy
😉
I mean I've talked to VRPill multiple times in the past during the DK2 days and we got along just fine. I wouldn't see why I wouldn't be trusted by now.
Cause a lot can happen that would nullify any flexing you're trying to do
I'm not flexing. I'm just concerned. Does somebody in the admin group have a grudge against me or something?
I think the system only started tracking since you had to wait before you could upload models. So if your activity was low after that was implemented, maybe the system doesn't see all your past activity and just what's happened since then
Just a guess 
I don't know how the system works
i checked my stats on that site and changed my PW after lol 22 hours in vrc and 36 friends with only 5 blocks
good average to me right there
When the trust ranks first came out I was green user. I merged my steam account that had barely any hours on it other than my start date and I jumped to trusted. So yeah... It's really unknown how the rank system works
374 users have me blocked pretty proud of that number
nice
I have 450 users blocked lul 90% of them probably were visitors standing in front of me in a mirror while i'm trying to cuddle
Blocked 3 and been blocked 5 times...
i will never block anyone unless they are spamming some effect that reaches the entire map and im trying to hold a convo other than that everything is freegame to me
i will pointlessly scream and argue with you for 5 hours before i block you
They might block you first lul
that just means my spine is stronger than theirs
Perhaps
covert linden
Ive never been blocked
vocal shard
you must be quite the perfect person than
covert linden
Wait I have but only when they wanna talk about ptsd stuff without giving me a panic attack so thwt doesnt count
vocal shard
So you've only blocked one person
That's impressive
i just like treating vrc like its real life unless theres spam involved
once we got full body feelings or w/e it's called idk i cant words right now to good i can't fight til then
I already have full body feelings
Phantom touch is a blessing and a curse
Especially when you have it as sensitive as I do
wait like those videos i see on youtube of people tripping balls in vrc being tickled or w/e?
No It's like a warm tingling feeling of something actually touching your body without using drugs btw
nah i get it but damn im jelly honestly
Sort of like how amputees develop feeling in their artificial limbs
i still get phantom pain from time to time from an old surgery im starting to get over it though that whole situation is a trip so i can relate
dang that sucks
queen mango
Pretty late on this, but I blocked 3, muted 2, and had been blocked by 22 people, 2 of them whom I know pretty well
Well, 3 or 4
vocal shard
I'll make that 23 :3
green bane
whats up with world icons, theyre all blurred
vocal shard
Yeah it's a bug
cunning vault
how long is it till i can upload
vocal shard
It's not based on time and it's different for everyone. Just be active and you should get a notification soon
vocal shard
Yeah. Playing vrchat, visiting worlds, making friends. Being AFK won't help
cunning vault
alrighty
vocal shard
It's designed so we don't know how it works, to prevent exploitation
scarlet musk
Hello everyone
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/gamepad-request please vote if not difficult
queen mango
@scarlet musk That can be better discussed if it were to be placed in #feature-requests
scarlet musk
k
vast tulip
what!
queen mango
Still, doesn't VRChat already support gamepads?
torn pelican
still lark
@queen mango You can't use the menus though, cursor stuck.
shy smelt
Anyone ever get a "Too many sessions for this user." Error?
queen mango
Can't confirm if it does, as I don't have a gamepad.
shy smelt
Anyone?
slate verge
vrchat does indeed support gamepads through steam overlay
all different kinds of gamepads, from rock candy gamepads to 3rd party supported gamepads like twin usb controller(dualshock 2 via usb)
vocal shard
I have a strange thing where whenever I go on VRC it completely tanks my entire internet connection, I go from 30/20 Mbps up/down to sub 200Kbps
That's vrc for you
But its affects all of my internet on every device, like, instantly. The moment I go to load a world my internet just dies
Ye
bronze swift
tryin to join friends is difficult now haha I keep disconnecting after a black screen blehhh. Hope it gets fixed soon
potent fractal
bruh
slate verge
gotta love those blurry thumbnails
bronze swift
yup ME TOO
potent fractal
calm down bro its just a prank bro
bronze swift
blurry thumbnails and constant DC
it loads me in a funny part of the map too. and it's a dark screen when it disconnects and attempts to reload the map
slate verge
servers are probably going haywire
cunning vault
does that mean i might not be able to upload stuff till tomorrow
raw siren
isnt it fun when you wanna use steam version of vrchat but you cant because the damn audio DOESNT work due to the sudden update?
fml
bronze swift
join the club
raw siren
im part of it already
vocal shard
Why would you want to use the steam version just launch it from the website
raw siren
i stream it, and use steam version most often
oculus version also doesnt support ovrdrop
vocal shard
hm. World is flagged as enviornment malicious, yet its a 2.9 mb sand island with like 13 avatars. Sus
@bitter coyote explain
bitter coyote
maybe someone is allergic to water
vernal forge
Is it me or if you do some emotes like death etc, you lost your hands movement and becomes desktop in vr
covert linden
Emotes are supppooose to take over your avatar. Thats the point of them..
vernal forge
No its like the death emotes are done
And my hands are limp at my sides
Switching avatar fix it tho but it sure is weird
covert linden
Ohh that is odd
vocal shard
hey
fathom lake
So anybodt else notice that people are slightly off? Like, I will see a person in one exact position and my friend will see then maybe an inch or so off? Maybe it's minor enough that not a lot of people have seen it yet
vocal shard
People are looking weird due to the new Networking IK with the latest update
slate verge
how weird? you mean for desktop users?
languid beacon
Can anyone with knuckles/index controllers, who have also used touch controllers, confirm any differences in the analog sticks? They look uncomfortably positioned.
lunar shell
This network Ik isn't sounding great at all.
languid beacon
yeah it's a huge downgrade in quality. i hope eventually they reserve it for quest-only and crossplay worlds, give PC-only worlds proper IK back
lunar shell
I have a bad feeling I know why they did it.
rigid sun
Because many games do?
lunar shell
Yes otherwise people are going to not happy at all and take it out on quest users.
vocal shard
i had similar concerns about the thumbstick placement from the looks of the controllers Adeon.
languid beacon
I think it's an absolutely TERRIBLE idea to let people see if you're PC/quest on your nametag
They need to remove that. It's going to cause bullying.
lunar shell
It is. Also I'm fine with quest users but don't take what we can do with our PCVR away.
vocal shard
it's not on the nametag the last i saw. from the vrchat streams in the quest there were no noticable tags. it is only if someone is using a quest/pc only avatar that the replacement avatar the others see has a quest/pc logo in the chest
languid beacon
It's confusing because they use the same icon for quest/pc build presense. but on the nametag it actually represents which client the person is running.
you can prove this by wearing a crossplay avatar. it'll still say only PC on your nametag
vocal shard
quickly watches stream clips again to double check if i missed it
ohhhhh, so it does show the tag on the name if you open your menu, just not by default.... atlease it's better than on all the time like trust ranks
languid beacon
yeah. they hide most of the draw calls unless the menu is open
which they'd get rid of the friend icon
we already know they're yellow
vocal shard
true
languid beacon
save 1 draw call per friend in scene
vocal shard
in the dev stream they mentioned some things that really would be nice to have. new UI interaction, different nameplates, gesture/animation menu. excited to see what they have planned in the future
languid beacon
I just want vrchat to have full body tracking again, this was expensive to not work properly
lunar shell
Yeah.
languid beacon
Full body looks fine for yourself but everyone else sees your hip pinned in place
rigid crescent
wat
hasty wedge
🤔
languid beacon
I made a canny on it but filed fixing it as a feature request by accident
languid beacon
You have seen worming full body tracking?
rigid crescent
all night
languid beacon
Everyone is commenting mine is broken
rigid crescent
hmm
languid beacon
If you walk around you stay in place for everyone else. Just looks like you are walking in place
rigid crescent
has you seem broken ones?
languid beacon
Yes
lunar shell
I got a nice play space. I like to walk around.
languid beacon
The avatar seems to have no root motion remotely. If you shift your hips side to side, , feet stay in place for you but for others feet slide back and forth while hip stays in place
rigid crescent
i mean i believe its an isue but its odd iveseen none ingam or heard complaints ingame
whoa
umbral reef
@rigid crescent y ya mentioned me last night? Tried to find what ya meant but could not find anything.
languid beacon
Well your pose is perfect. If you took a screenshot you’d have no idea something was wrong
umbral reef
Ayy
rigid crescent
and i seeothers ok
umbral reef
Who gave the dev a twitter account
We know they are not allowed to talk
rigid crescent
lol
languid beacon
You’d have to be doing notion that specifically shifts your hip while keeping feet grounded
It’s easy enough for people to just ignore with all the other network IK weirdness going on
They may have just not mentioned it, have someone record you,
Better yet I’ll record it tomorrow
vocal shard
Yeah the network IK definitely needs some heavy tweeking. I found my game ran a lot smoother in heavier instances, but the ik was something else for sure
rigid sun
^ and that's why they did it though
hasty wedge
dont need frames if nothing moves
lunar shell
I saw this effects people that use pens too. Especially those that are mute.
rigid sun
Life is more than frames. Input lag is a thing. Not saying network ik is great. Usually affects high ping or really crap networks. Don't game on wifi folks
lunar shell
I got an i7 and I'm good.
rigid sun
But were you? I still got good fps, but frame lag was real before nik
grizzled sentinel
Hello
rigid sun
Wish more games included render time in their frame counts... Only one i know included ms timers
uncut trail
why the icon on my world is greyed out wtf that means
like great hub n open mic night \
lunar shell
I'm happy with fps and fbt. If I need to give up fps I'm fine.
uncut trail
oh n hii @lunar shell
rigid sun
Anyways I'm going to stream 8 in the morning and it is currently 3 so going to go sleep
queen mango
Wait.. did the graffiti map get removed from the list? I can't check it out, seeing as I still haven't got my laptop back
still lark
Still there for me
winged thistle
I'd like to have just one vrchat session where I don't get stuck on a world loading screen...
stone onyx
since the update i crash after about a minute of loading in, every time
uncut trail
wtf up with great pug
still lark
What you mean @uncut trail ?
broken adder
I need help
I am a PC pleb
Can someone help me
I don't know when I am talking and when I am not
next dune
You will see like a big mic icon left below of your screen. If it turns red you are talking ^^.
vestal garnet
im fuckt
slate verge
ughh stupid blurry thumbnails
lavish mica
oi
balmy zodiac
quest hype, I can finally play vrchat in a staples parking lot
winged igloo
Can finally play VRChat in Staples!
slate verge
:]
stoic halo
yo i just thought of this but someone can play Vrchat quest while in the bathroom
vocal shard
I havent been in this server alot but i havent really checked around if there is a reason or not because im lazy, idk if alot people have asked this but why are all the world pictures so low quality?
slate verge
interesting, so its possible some public instance can be empty over time
vocal shard
its not just me because its happening to all my friends
vagrant yoke
cdid vrchat put cencor stuff in pic worlds now or a glitch?
paper pewter
vagrant yoke
if anyone knows why there blurry do tell us all
languid beacon
I feel so bad for the creator of the graffiti map
umbral reef
Its kinda ironic that VRchat promoted the world and then they gutted it
dusk mesa
I have that issue aswell, all World pics are super low quality and you cant see anything on it besides pixels idk how to explain
hasty wedge
wear ur glasses
dusk mesa
Funny
dusk mesa
👍
cold ibex
Yeah it doesnt really matter, it depends on what youll do with other games in VR.
vocal shard
ahhh
languid beacon
Wait for Rift S (399) or Index (1000). Don’t Rift or Vive
cold ibex
@/TheGreenHell#3266 did you buy the vive trackers on the vive website or like amazon?
languid beacon
Do not EVER buy anything directly from HTC. They have a no refund policy even if it’s broken out of the box
cold ibex
Okay thank u c: I wanted to see whats best even if something did happen
languid beacon
Buy on Amazon, if anything’s wrong do a refund and make them deal with HTC
cold ibex
I usually buy everything from amazon, I just didnt know if HTC would help in any kind of way
languid beacon
No HTC is the worst company ever but they are the only ones with body trackers
So no options
Just buy em on amazon
cold ibex
Alright thanks c:
languid beacon
And make sure they are the 2.0’s, if you are gonna use with oculus
But really I don’t personally recommend hybrid setups even though it’s what I have and use
Unless you already happen to have an oculus
cold ibex
I have a rift, and planning to just use the vive trackers
languid beacon
Ah. You’ll need base stations
cold ibex
Yeah Im getting two of those and 3 trackers the 2018 with the blue light
languid beacon
While 1.0’s do work I’d advise jumping for the 2.0s in case you want to upgrade to Index later (Index can’t use 1.0 stations)
cold ibex
Yeah Later on planning to maybe switch to a new headset too, so thank u for that 😮
languid beacon
Wait nvm it can
Ok wait can Index work with 1.0 base stations?
I know the controllers can
Not sure about the headset
neat wyvern
Has anyone else been getting a message while playing that says "Your connection to VRChat has timed out."?
It's been happening to me for at least a week and it's getting ridiculously annoying
cold ibex
I didnt lastnight I just DC really
neat wyvern
F
That sucks
For me getting the timed out message almost always happens, but however long it takes before I get it is random
It's like, you'll be there interacting with people or doing whatever and then the next second, the message appears
ye
cold ibex
sad boy hours
neat wyvern
And you get disconnected instantly from that server with no way of getting back unless a friend is in there
cold ibex
sometimes i check the server number if Im having a good time just incase, or just add someone
neat wyvern
And that
The thing is, the timeout thing only happens to me in VR mode
It's never happened when I've been using desktop mode
50/50 chance of being better or worse
cold ibex
I havent even seen a quest user
Yeah if you open the menu (at least in VR) it will show u the circles like in the worlds and it will be in the green I think for quest
Yeah
vocal shard
thx
cold ibex
Im pretty sure thats how it works
covert linden
Has the quest even arrived yet for ppl?
I think they ship on the 24th buf im not sure
languid beacon
Best Buy and Walmart’s already have them in the stock rooms. People who buy at a physical store will have them before digital orders
grave dagger
I ordered a Rift S directly from Oculus and people on Amazon have started getting them early and mine hasn't even shipped yet. lesson learned XD
and now watch it get stuck at Canadian customs just because XD
cold ibex
I feel like everything gets 5x more expensive when you're Canadian
grave dagger
I should have just gotten it day 1 in a best buy store XD
I have a mixed Oculus / Vive setup for full body and yeah, trackers and base stations here are hella expensive
cold ibex
I fucking bet also i heard about ketchup chips ;o but anyways
covert linden
Everything does cost more in canada I hate canadas dollar
My boyfriends coming too visit next month
From Murica
cold ibex
Exciting o:
covert linden
Hes lucky his dollar could get him a car here xD (not literally but likeee
vivid vale
is anyone else not able to see the world images they are blurred
languid agate
Guys in the last time when my game is loading avatars there appear grey yellow error avatars and then it crashes
lunar shell
They are low rez pics so the load faster. Jk. It's a known issue happening to everyone.
covert linden
All the images arw terribly low rez for me too ingame
languid agate
yup all images are bloored
covert linden
cyan dagger
Anyone on vrchat rn?
still lark
About 6.6k users
humble cedar
Are doors broken for other people or is it just me
green mauve
still lark
A good portion of this user base.
cyan dagger
I do
languid beacon
Judging by the avatar choice in-game, at least half.
Tho anime characters are less creepy than realistic faces in vr tbh
So there’s that too
still lark
But TCL looks cute!
languid beacon
What is TCL?
still lark
A human.
languid beacon
Looked pictures up. Avatar still leans on the toony side. I’d love to have something like that personally
Way better than the stuff oculus put out for system avatars
still lark
What pictures did you find? Lol
languid beacon
Some dude in a blue shirt
vocal shard
hii!
cold ibex
hihi
vocal shard
What'd i miss
rustic berry
I also wonder the same thing
median basalt
Some guy posting Discord links in every single channel
Got auto removed but it kept marking the channels as Unread
vocal shard
Does anyone here make avatars
So that's what that was I was confused why they were lighting up but there were no new messages
tacit plank
VRChat worlds seem to have a "NSFW" tag seperate from the 4 checkboxes?
In the VRCWorld component
vocal shard
yeah
languid beacon
Those checkboxes don’t do anything right now. I fill them out accurately anyway but they really don’t serve any purpose. Don’t know if they are even remembered. They might just be some legal requirement to ask.
tacit plank
Besides the 4 checkboxes, there's a "NSFW" tag saved in the VRCworld component
I guess that they can't legally make use of them, but it's a shame
languid beacon
Don’t recall seeing a NSFW setting in the descriptor. If it’s new that’s interesting
May have just never noticed it
vocal shard
No i've seen it it's been there for a while
languid beacon
Yeah I don’t upload worlds often just avatars
vocal shard
Yes
languid beacon
I have a mostly serious answer
earnest prawn
Where is the community meetup event started?
vocal shard
Wait am I the only one with low res images
languid beacon
I’ll have to pass on that one, I don’t keep up with events.
Ellie, no, it’s a new bug
earnest prawn
What happens if I ping one of the vrchat team?
vocal shard
You'd be warned or kicked
languid beacon
Yeah don’t lol
earnest prawn
Damnit!
vocal shard
I've had a crush on me five times over the past few days but then half the time it works
It's just really depending on what it feels like
earnest prawn
It says there's gonna be multiple new worlds being shown off
languid beacon
VRChat’s client is optimized fine. You can only do much when the devs aren’t the ones making the content.
vocal shard
There will likely be a new world tab for the event for the worlds that are being shown off
languid beacon
There is no “make user’s content not suck” button 😛
vocal shard
Do you know I wish I could believe that
But it seems like something always breaks every new update
languid beacon
That may be the case but that has little to do with optimization
vocal shard
Honestly they should warn people who go over the polygon limit because it's a quite annoying anymore
languid beacon
They do warn, they just don’t care
covert linden
They do when you upload it wym
You canr even upload more than the limit without breaking somthing
vocal shard
man because there are so man over-the-limit polygons and when people use them it makes the game so bad
languid beacon
70000 polys is a hard limit it won’t let you upload more without breaking rules
umbral reef
Polygons are barely anything when it comes to performance
languid beacon
If you see more, report it
covert linden
If your hair moves, your avatar is likely bad for performance.
umbral reef
Dynamic bones, materials and shaders are though
vocal shard
Can't cause they be crashing me with emotes
Don't report someone for that unless they have like over 10 meshes and 5 million polys
languid beacon
cries in manually animated hair with no dynamic bones
vocal shard
I'm going to be having my friend make a model soon from a PS2 game
It really doesn't affect you cause you can always turn off their avatars
But then I turn off a lot of other people's avatars and by the time they come in I'm already lagging
Typically when I get those type of people it's the worst
covert linden
I use dynb and a bad amount so im shameful
languid beacon
Nah above 70k is worth a report since they nodded their SDK. They should get clapped for that they know what they’re doing
vocal shard
I mean like the bottom of the barrel shoot your PC
covert linden
Are you on a lower end system?
languid beacon
I’ll be a stickler for 70001
vocal shard
No
That's the point it's still fucking messes with my system even though I'm not on a lower-end
People with GTX 1080 be crashing left and right
Despite that I still love the game
covert linden
If only they had safety settings like a dynb limiter, and a shader + animation blocker to stop you from crashing..
vocal shard
Man only if I could block half of the avatars
And not see cool animations that actually work
languid beacon
70000 polys on an avatar is allowed despite most modern first person shooters using less polys for that for the entire map
covert linden
Like me? I dont ruin your performance so dont falsely accuse
vocal shard
So do you or do you not ruin people's performance because you said you did
languid beacon
He’s projecting a little
languid beacon
Green star here :p
vocal shard
Which is bad
languid beacon
Not really. Default settings you won’t even see them.
covert linden
It hasnt harmed anyones performance and if It had id have optimized em already. My avatar doesnt drop peoples frames
vocal shard
Okay well then I misspoke
languid beacon
You can set dynbone limit to whatever you want. If you have it uncapped to infinity that is kind of on you
languid beacon
Then you are at 16 dyn bones per avatar max
covert linden
Using a simple limiter which it literallt defaults with, you should have no issues with that
languid beacon
And won’t see any on someone who has more
vocal shard
So then it's not that what is it on an avatar that causes lag
languid beacon
Or is it 8 I don’t recall
vocal shard
I'll look later
covert linden
Materals , shaders, and particle s
covert linden
Some shaders are all good but some wreck everything
vocal shard
Ik
covert linden
Its all good
I personally dont have many performance issues unless people begin to spam more particles than I have skin cell
vocal shard
And that's what a lot of people do
A lot of people want to ruin the experience by doing things that are typically annoying
covert linden
You seem to have bad luck with worlds
vocal shard
I do
Video players in vrchat are garbage
you want to know what happened today
Somehow we spawned 50 of them in the air
dapper stump
If you have such huge issues with dbones and performance that you have to complain and attack people here for using it then just block the dbones ingame and shaders.. easy fix
vocal shard
You're a little late to the party
But people shouldn't be using shaders that are too complex
covert linden
You actually can disable shaders and such in the safety settings, theyre useful
dapper stump
No but i mean shaders arent that bad imo unless broken rim light
vocal shard
But then I can't see any shaders and that's sad
Because like you said there is good shaders
dapper stump
Just unblock the people you want
covert linden
You can set it so youll see ones from trusted users or something, or just frirndd
Friends
vocal shard
You know I'm not even trusted yet and I've been on there for how many hours I'm surprised
vocal shard
I know but I rather not but I guess I have to because shaders sometimes can be really nice
dapper stump
Same however i unblock those i want to see it on
tulip wave
i am losing connection to servers when i try to join a friend
covert linden
I dont ever use safety settings lool
tulip wave
i time out
dapper stump
Its always been issue after issue in this game you grow used to it
covert linden
Ive never been purposely crashed
covert linden
I just play with my friends and ive never had an issue, even when we enter publics
I think that if people find particles and shaders fun so be it? Who am I to stop them
vocal shard
More just broken ones
dapper stump
With issue etc i meant more major like full body is broken right now and such
covert linden
The updates were all going good till like december passed
Now we rarely get updates and the few we do ge tbreak everything
vocal shard
No too busy making the Oculus quest version
covert linden
We used to get very frequent fix updates, betas, all within days.
Im very dissapointed we havent even had ONE update yet since the ik released.
Networking ik shoulda had a beta imo
covert linden
Yeah aaages ago and never got fixed or addressed...
vocal shard
Too busy making Oculus quest version again
covert linden
Shouldve had it again this time until it was even good.
vocal shard
That's all they focus on I bet
pallid rain
Maybe network IK is part of moving towards optimizing for the Quest?
So it's win-win for all?
covert linden
It is. But they should fix the issues through a beta
dapper stump
Thing is it had first time but it was different live anyways
covert linden
Irs not a win win when it broke the game tonthe extent of virtual unplayability.
pallid rain
There's something wrong with it right now?
vocal shard
Yes
dapper stump
Yea lots
covert linden
Tracking has gone to shit, many users cant load anything, audio is somehow broken
Vr users somehow going temperary desktop mode
umbral reef
@pallid rain Everything really that has to be right for an IK system
dapper stump
Desktop broken, vr is inaccurate if lating down.. friends sees you 5-7 inches infront of you.. full boddy stutters like crazy and drags along the head
vocal shard
Has tracking gone to ahit
rigid crescent
Keep in mind these aren't issues everyone is experiencing
pallid rain
Jeez, I haven't noticed any issues .-.
vocal shard
All in a day in vrchat
rigid crescent
and not everyone who is is reporting it
covert linden
All I ask is to make it toggleable for now or COUGH Start using betas again!!
rigid crescent
But from what I can tell the only way to test the networked IK is live
How do they use a beta Rea?
vocal shard
Like how Minecraft does
covert linden
Dont betas work as a seperate server of the same game?
vocal shard
Two different versions
covert linden
They used them for many things in the past
dapper stump
These are issues everyone is lol the full body isnt local but others can see it, the inaccurate movements in normal vr when layin down is also tested on multiple people.. desktop is completely messed up if crouching or laying down with a majority of the avatars eeh i do like the performance boost though in full lobbies
vocal shard
Or if it's a server thing then it would be a test server
rigid crescent
You gonna make 5k people join it to stress test it in beta 🤔
rigid crescent
How?
covert linden
Why does it need to be stress tested?
rigid crescent
Because assumingi ts the same as last time, the IK worked fine in Beta nad went ot crap live
covert linden
At least make it toggleable with the default being on
rigid crescent
Someone mentioned issues with a toggle as well
pallid rain
To see if their servers can handle the huge amount of data that is all the IK stuff.
vocal shard
^
umbral reef
@rigid crescent They managed to test it last time 🤷
rigid crescent
It needs to be stress tested and the only way to do that is live
Last time didn't work? Remember?
that's why we didn't have networked IK til now lol
umbral reef
Else small group off server testing as they have done (rumored) in the past.
rigid crescent
I can find the exact post where tupper mentioned the issue with the tests they did vs they test they need
covert linden
Do you remember when we had nearly daily updates after a major update?
umbral reef
Failing IK tracking and bad connecting of information in desktop and ect dont need a large group to test really.
Same for high ping situations
rigid crescent
I mean apparently it does or it would work
covert linden
At some points it was 3 updates in a day
rigid crescent
as far as the base problems iwth network IK
vocal shard
No they need to have a team to fix it
pallid rain
Maybe the reason we have less updates after major updates now are because the major updates are more comprehensive and complete? Alongside the fact that the issues we have at the moment simply can't be solved in a few hours.
rigid crescent
umbral reef
@rigid crescent If you mean the comment where not enough people beta test stuff. I also recall a quote from the livestream where they say they cant fix all bugs being reported in beta's.
And whats the point of more people reporting it then if they dont delay these updates for bad bugs.
covert linden
Its been days, theyve solved issues alike rather quickly before. You cant tell me they havrnt at least fixed one thing they can release for us
vocal shard
By more comprehensive updates you mean breaking the whole game
rigid crescent
The "whole game" isn't broken
pallid rain
^
rigid crescent
lol why do people exaggerate so much
umbral reef
The load and ect are last time why they dropped it. Not that odd and never said they can test that.
rigid crescent
Yeah you're placing a hyperbole on a minor inconvenience
vocal shard
A few big issues
rigid crescent
and it's not even an issue everyone is experiencing on top of that
vocal shard
Your acting like God touched you
rigid crescent
Unless my friend groups are just somehow immune to it completely.
covert linden
Mics right in the sense its not exactly game destroying but like
pallid rain
I haven't noticed a single difference except better FPS 🤷
That's why I'm curious about it
rigid crescent
Same. I'm not denying there's issues, not trying to call you guys liars, but maybe it's not as widespread as people seem to think
covert linden
All my group is fine, Except they chase me with their necks when crouching.. and they enter desktop vr mode wjen switching avatars
vocal shard
It's not game breaking but it's bad
rigid crescent
Like none of the rooms I was in with 10, evne 20+ people were like some of the videos with people ALONE in a lobby trying to test dancing
umbral reef
@rigid crescent Try going into that new spraypaint world and test it
rigid crescent
some friends already have, the sycning is really off from w hat they've shown me
covert linden
My boyfriend drew something and I saw it fine like he did tho oclac
rigid crescent
but people are reporting stuff like "my hip is locked" like last night (was drunk admittedly so maybe i misunderstood that) or constant terrible stuttering
vocal shard
I noticed my drawing was off
covert linden
Itd be on other screens not youra
pallid rain
That's local though
covert linden
Yours*
rigid crescent
But if the extent of the more widespread issues are like "cant spraypaint or beerpong" which they seem to be that's not so bad
the stuttering seems to only be certain people
umbral reef
So far i know the core two problems are wrong tracking.
And extremely slow reactions/respondses to things (~1 second delay in movement for others)
covert linden
I did notice the stuttering was on and off too
vocal shard
My tracking keeps going into my body
umbral reef
So you can not write with pens on avatars and you wont even know if someone looked away before or after you waved at them
rigid crescent
But again, i'm thinking that it's like last time, there's just not sufficient enough load to test in a closed or even an open beta
umbral reef
Same for the constant small moving of the body.
vocal shard
Yet my controllers are fine in the air
rigid crescent
testing it live and using that data to tweak and fix it
covert linden
Ellie the network ik wont affect what you see on your screen. I assume you mean howothers see you?
vocal shard
Yes
People have been noticing my tracking has been weird
Sorry for the misunderstanding
covert linden
The biggesr issue for me is peoples heads alwaus looking straight up when crouching
vocal shard
Hmm
covert linden
Or sitting even, as hilarious as it is, being chased with a neck is scary
covert linden
Even in vr peoples heads are up
covert linden
Ye
vocal shard
My game likes to force my image into like a 2d circle and I look behind me and everything is a black void
It could be due to hardware but my hardware is more strong enough
Could it be my temps
covert linden
Sounds like a hardware izsue as thats what I get when my system cant keep up
vocal shard
So do you think it's not so much the power of my hardware but maybe that I'm getting too hot
covert linden
Coupd definatrly be thermal throttling. Whats your specs?
vocal shard
Because it happens in Long play sessions not right away
8 gbs of ram Rx 580 ryzen 5 2600
covert linden
It happens to me if I turn too fast during a loading screen, when my systems haawt
vocal shard
I think my system is way too hot
covert linden
Could be that, your system is better than mine in the emd
vocal shard
I need more fans
Like I said the fact that it only happens in Long play sessions support it I believe correct
covert linden
Maybe its related to a memory leak?
covert linden
Itd be in your task.manager,
vocal shard
But honestly I think it's due to heat because other VR games do not overheat like vrchat does
covert linden
You could also try restarting vrchat and seeing if it still occurs
vocal shard
Vrchat makes my system ramp up to insane heat
All the time from whenever it's a long play session
covert linden
Ye itss rather cpu intensive
rigid crescent
oh Rea you invited me last night but i drink heavily on weekends
so i didnt wanna join you
covert linden
Thank you for not joining then
rigid crescent
i didnt ignore you though just so you know lol
white lichen
i mstill wondering why people keep on petting me
vocal shard
Are you small
white lichen
https://snag.gy/v6SaXn.jpg thats what i am
white lichen
idk
languid beacon
This one is going in the archives, thank you internet. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/511417163874172932/579769510563938314/image0.png
pastel owl
np
hollow prawn
hey my account get hacked right now and my name get changed and all my friends got deleted i dont get any password change mail ... what can i do now ?
umbral reef
Change the password and email support@vrchat.com
hollow prawn
cant change password cuz i dont get any change mail
languid beacon
Chances are you logged in on the wrong account. What was your name changed to?
hollow prawn
can no admin help me cuz he is in my account still right now ... oof
languid beacon
If it is just your steam name with numbers added you may be on the wrong account
knotty smelt
@vocal shard take side panel off case
knotty smelt
you think overheat
vocal shard
gets a lot in there
umbral reef
Unless you have dust filters its 'eh' worthy
Also a good reason to not have a PC on the ground
hollow prawn
@languid beacon no its my vrc account my name got changed from Luzifer Senpai to peinis senpai and all my friends got deleted
inner cape
LOL
hollow prawn
rip over 600 friends ...
languid beacon
Well contact them via the accounts original email and tell them your account was compromised
inner cape
imagine the trouble the person went through to delete that many
languid beacon
inner cape
you should definitely email support
hollow prawn
i did ... but i thought fast help would be better as long he is in my account
vocal shard
they should never play a game again