#vrchat-general-2
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How many miles must a man walk? One can never know until they make the journey
@hybrid shell i don't have to walk to get pancakes - i have a car
none if you have a car
Lol a competitor 
I highly recommend you all to strongly reconsider playing this game when people that can fuck up this badly are in charge of it.
why?
It's really not that big of a deal, a minor inconvenience
It's free. It's a social chat game. Most of the bugs are minor inconvenience people nloenohtnof proportion
@rigid crescent Being blocked by ~80% of all popular websites sucks hard tho-
That's literally any social space with heavy user interaction
Try blocking all cloudfare related things locally. You see how limited the internet is then.
you aren't really blocked, just required to complete captcha
From Neopets to Gaia Online to whatever people used after that.
Can everyone just chill out?
But it wont let you access vrchat even if you complete the captcha
Doubtful.
that a different story paranoias
And if you didn't know about vrc you still wouldn't.
The one thing you can rely on VRChat is it's unreliability
@buoyant maple Thats a soft block.
Plenty of services dont allow you to trigger the captcha and depending the case it might need to be done for every request... Whats fairly tard from cloudfare but eh-
You not knowing doesn't equate to it not happening.
so if i change my IP address i will be able to log in fine?
Have more empathy these guys aren't triple A Devs or anything. Also its a free to play VR game that I remind you is still rather new for even big devs to get a grasp what a good vr standard is.
Besides this what has really been that big an issue?
@umbral reef I understand, but it seems that this is blown out of proportion
@vocal shard If you use a vpn you can put it around south america which seems to work better
It is a big issue
It's a big issue only for those affected
@buoyant maple Ow taht for sure. This is still a really bad case though. Its not a 🤷 thing as some have claimed. But the world doesnt end also thanks to this like most are claiming RN>
well, every website i go to now says "one more step" with a captcha button
@woven steppe Thats normally how problems work 👀
Yep
i am going to call my ISP today because a free game screwed up my IP address
Can't log in? Inconvenience. Talk to your friends on discord. Can't get invites? Makes friend/friends plus. IP related shit is a steam thing. Yes it sucks but most issues are just whiny inconvenienced people. This too is fixable just like everything else.
Some people just fail to realize the magnitude of this problem. Sad days 😫 ¨
How long has VRChat been broken?
I do you one better
@old imp Please get off vrchat
11.5 hours
Bold of you to assume I've even on VRChat.
When has VRchat ever been operating reliably
it is too late, i am already blacklisted by cloudflare, i'll keep trying to get on until it is fixed
maybe i will get perma banned from the internet for trying to play vrchat
If you need to REALLY reset your ip adress just restart your modem/router if that doesnt work change it via command prompt
buy a new house and its fixed
^ Need to be off for a few minutes to make sure it will reset
not everyone gets new IP's from restarting
Several people are typing...
You be with VRC long enough and you'd eventually grow accustomed to it's Lancia like reliability
implying everyone has the luxury of freely reseting the router 🤔
@vocal shard Oof. It'd be best to stop there for now. I dunno if you could appeal for a whitelist tho
i am on gigabit fiber with a static IP
im lonely
im on a static IP so i would have to ring my ISP to get a new IP and that could actually cost me
keyword: should. afaik they're drinking morning coffee
how many captchas must a man solve? One cannot know until their ip is no longer blacklisted
If you can't reset the router just find the breaker box that controls the electricity for whatever facility you're in and switch it off.
that doesn't help with static ip users
What upsets me the most is the silence, they should at least adress the issue and let us know that they're at least looking into it
"Complete the security check to access this page" every single page on the internet
Do the devs even have access to the blacklisted IPs that Cloudflare blacklisted ?
"hey dad, can you interrupt our source of income for like 20 seconds so i can access this free game where I cuddle with anime avatars"?
yeah no.
No
Just leech wifi from your neighbor.
i can't even access my ISP support page without doing a captcha of fire hydrants
Oh great then XD
Habitually exploit or rely on your neighbor's wifi.
Please just make an announcement already.
Dev tired Dev asleep
I doubt an announcement would be in any way helpful now since significant amounts of people have been affected already.
!online
There are 5708 users in VRChat currently
if nothing else it'll prevent the EU people who are coming home from school / work.
well, i just paid for a VPN service
That only works if they're even on the discord
that too
i guess i can use a VPN while my IP is ruined
also paying for VPN service? couldn't you at least found one that's free?
pay for ones aren't gonna have already blacklisted IPs
Oh so let's just affect more people is your answer.
It's more or less the fact that they don't acknowledge the issue and haven't addressed it yet. That's what they need to do.
free VPN's mean you're the product.
CyberVPN Tunnelbear
the one i am using is $10 a month
wouldn't pay a cent
You can get your first month free on Tunnelbear if you use promo code XYZ!!!

Tunnel bear bad. PIA new best friend
PIA is ok. not best.
I just use a random vpn my boyfriend let me use
¯_(ツ)_/¯
They're financially backed by a few companies yes
Uhuh, any way to check if im affected by that cloudflare something something?
I was sleeping in vrc and well, woke up to loading screen and stuff
Just see if you have to solve captcha every 2 seconds
patreon asked me for a captcha for example
Guess im affected, thats nice.
even my ISPs website asked me for a captcha
Brightstone, HTC, Rothenburg, GREE, fee others I think
this is exactly why I'm against them making an announcement ping saying that something's wrong.
Even pornsites? That's a deadline, don't fuck with the porn
wait what's going on with VRChat? too much to read from what's going on, but are people getting randomly banned?
oh nice, if you are a streamer you are 100% screwed... i can't use OBS anymore with any overlays because they are all captchas
Pornhub works fine for me though. But patreon for example asks for captcha
so i can't even stream anymore because of VRchat, thanks a lot devs
someone is gonna get sued if a bigger streamer plays vrchat
Lol no one is getting sued
How bad is it though? Seeing the captchas and stuff lol
what if you were a huge streamer and everything was broken because your entire stream is covered in captchas?
It's still a free game XD
Fucking armchair lawyers lol
@vocal shard whole households are possibly affected by this captcha bs.
i wish i could show you my OBS... it is covered in captchas
i literally cannot stream now thanks to this game
I'm positive you don't know the law surrounding the liability or you'd not have said something that dumb
ok, streaming it
Well, i guess its nothing bad though, just that you have to say your are not a robot every second.
But is it only because of vrchat issue or something? They plan on fixing it? Maybe some backup from X time from cloudflare or whatever?
@willow kiln a free game is still a offered service. which is now, causing huge financial damage. so i'd like to understand how "come on it's free" is a even somewhat acceptable excuse...
that is what i see now and there is no way for me to fix that because i cannot click on those windows
wtf
so this is a really big fucking issue with vrchat right now
Yep
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obv
i am calling my ISP right now i guess
nice advertisement reactant
only 54 followers :c I feel like we should give him some more tbh
ladies add me
Are they expecting me to go into real life now? Id rather commit die than do this.
Read #announcements, there are ongoing issues with VRChat's Network Service Provider, the team is working hard to resolve it still
Burn the network service provider
working hard aka morning coffee and chill 
I mean that's how work is
isnt it the server providers ddos protection thahts screwing us over there
why i can't see my friends for Christ sake
what a hack is going on
Because people who've been online for the past 12 hours or so is now in captcha hell
There is no hack or DDoS going on
it's just a general server issue unfortunately
boring stuff
happily I was busy installing an airconditioning unit to be affected XD
Is that captcha thing only because of vrchat though? :v
i think it's a bit more than "general" at this point tbh
good grief
😦
yare yare daze
I guess I'll be on Neos VR tonight, maybe they'll be a nice surge of users
@elfin cloak basicly the host of the vr chat server got flagged with a ddos wich is why serval websites on the internet gettign a i am a human verivication and sicne we have no way of saying i am human in the vr chat software wich means we dont get acces it can be avoided by chaing youre ip with a vpn for example
well
my situations was even worse
my psu starts to burn
and if i'm not in my hose at that time
my entire house will be burned off
time to upgrade
Vrchat fucked up, made the clients basically ddos their own servers.
Vrchat servers are behind cloudflare anti-ddos, and cloudflare correctly detected a ddos attempt and flagged everyone's IPs.
Half the internet is protected by cloudflare and not all services are configured to allow flagged IPs to solve captchas for service, and thus you are effectively locked out if flagged.
Don't but a cheap ass PSU and don't leave it running when your not there then lmao
Also not sure why you bring this up as it has nothing to do with the other problems...
here, i made a clip of this issue i am having https://clips.twitch.tv/BreakableCarelessSheepMikeHogu
Imagine VRC without any problems 💁
yep
well
i try to get things little calm
but what a hack is this ddos
ip chain what dev's do with vrchat
what will happen next
lmaoooooo
Sky is falling
it's a hell that's what's happen
Run for cover.
vrchat client sent sus data, cloudflare reactively considers the source as a threat, causing it to challenge via captchas
god 😦
People act like they dying without vrc 🙆
Server basically telling cloudflare that info stream from client's a DDOS attack.
it isn't about VRchat now
We'll meet again, don't know when, don't know where!
Yeah, the other things is diff no worries
cloudflare will figure out you're not a threat within a few hours, maybe a day
not being able to play the game isn't the problem that is happening
@cold saddle
Sleep in VRC
Let VRC servers do an boom boom while you are asleep and u cant control anything
See captcha verifications each time you visit websides
Thats how i understand it lol
I gotchu Honig 💁
ok then
i guess i can enjoy in vrchat as solo
without noone
that's something right?
😦
streamers cannot do a thing when streaming anymore
They'll live.
This is honestly pretty funny
So let's have an estimate... how many do you lot think got affected?
i don't make a living streaming thankfully
have we bee nsaved?
Ffs I just hope they stop using @ everyone
It shows a lot about how stuff gets handled by the devs
update but can we still login?
Reminder if you are a full time streamer and have been locked out of other games you are receiving financial damage and eligible to sue vrchat. Especially when they haven't acknowledged the issue for twelve hours.
those of us that are flagged
Vrchat fucked up, made the clients basically ddos their own servers.
Vrchat servers are behind cloudflare anti-ddos, and cloudflare correctly detected a ddos attempt and flagged everyone's IPs.
Half the internet is protected by cloudflare and not all services are configured to allow flagged IPs to solve captchas for service, and thus you are effectively locked out if flagged
Guys, i am sure they are working on it.
i mean they just announced an update
It's pretty easy to make a network message accidentally spam, FYI. 🤷
More things should let people solve captchas
Good luck trying to do anything to vrc after that tos you agreed to
@edgy umbra Thats not how it works. Stop spreading fake news around. Read the ToS.
They updated in announcements
Where's ma fuckin lawyer?
At best they will just ban you for causing shit about this as is there full right to do now you suggested legal action. So dont.
Imsgine taking legal action and being banned for breaking copyright
Update vrchat
they literally just patched vrchat
guess it's time to install unity again
can they patch my captcha issues though? 😋
Copyright fines only apply when your making profit off it
That's the first thing I'd do to some idiot trying to actually waste my time with legal action. Go through their avatars, find s copyright one, boom ban. They don't owe you s dime.
@brisk cave False-
Quote from xiexe. "According to cloudflare support, the IP will be removed from the blacklist fairly quickly."
@rigid crescent They can ban for anything. VRC isnt a goverment controlled product.
still loading on new version...
I didn't suggest anything nor have they addressed the flagging issue. It's not streaming vrchat, it's streaming other games. Has nothing to do with their tos as this applies to other games.
Oh I know. They could do it for fun but it's better if they have a reason and copyright is one.
@cold saddle yes
ay look we've just updated our game
"lets forget about those banned due to our fuckup"
hi what is the message im gettting that says , im not suppose to log on tonighy about a login issue and connextion bot
😂
Their tos most likely applies to anything that might happen to you as a result of playing the game lol
well, if that is true that they are removing our IPs from the blacklist, then that is great
Within reason.
what u mean @vocal shard
Just skimming it shows it covers a lot
someone just said they were alaska
I am alaska
Big
today we mourn the loss of one of the greatest games we have on steam, vrchat, i was close to 400 hours, that may not seem a lot however it was to me, others had suffered a fate worse then i had as streamers all over the world cannot do their job and most websites are falsely blacklisting ips
F in the chat pls
Lol wanna bet we peak as usual this weekend?
God, dude. Give it some time and it will be fixed 🙄
Is it really important to publish update with 1mb?
so there's an update? all good to login now?
there was an update, read announcements
Just bc a streamer couldnt stream for a day, it wont ruin him. Jeez
Always been 8 to 10k lol
@dusk mesa it's been 12 hours
So what
@dusk mesa depends on when the IP addresses get unblacklisted
!online
There are 5445 users in VRChat currently
It happens every weekend.
Its 12hrs not even a full day and u act like its been like that for days.
is it fixed?
This doesn't afaik count rift users either .
Strange how you don't know that CF flag detection has not been solved for other games. The main issue here is that things other than vrchat have been affected.
Most weekends the last few months. I actually comment on it quite a bit in game. It's a number I pay a lot of attention to
well, i still get stuck at logging in as
anyone saw in the game, the announcement said asjkdgashgdhasjvdanbvatniw lol
8k peak not counting Oculus users
that's a normal announcement
But I've seen 10k plenty.
@wet storm Placeholder announcement. Only shows up when the loading screen fails to show up properly
like seriously the amount of people who are alarmed at the placeholder loading screen has suddenly shot up
although I guess this might be their first time seeing it
elire demoted? monkaS
That's probably why
Off-duty. It's a temporary state
He just turned his mod off. They're able to "clock in" so to speak
and with the server malarkey happening it's probably normal for people to suddenly start seeing it for the first time.
off-duty but still hanging around here? doing gods work over here
That moment when you got jumpscared by the Ricardo meme...
Tbh, I shoulda done it hours beforehand, though it means dealing with the slowdown timer. Maybe that should give me a bit of thinking room
i posted the default announcement in pictures
Haha
i just got it like 30 seconds ago
im guessing nobody knows whether it's fixed or not
well, the patch said it is fixed, but clearly it isn't fixed or the update has not been pushed yet
not getting the update..
i updated, can't login because i'm icloudflare blackisted
i wonder if that is it, the patch fixes it but we are still black listed
Same here lol. Update but nothing fixed, feels good man
they fixed the issue that caused the blacklisting, they can't fix the people affected unless they're contacting cloudflare
patch fixes it for anyone logging in after the fact...
if you got fucked already... I'm not sure if it unfucks it
great
hopefully we are not swept under the rug
can't regain your virginity after all...
im waiting for the patch yet
supposedly it is only 1 mb
So if u hvent gotten blacklisted then.. is it ok to logg on?
you can either use a vpn, get a new IP by resetting your router or contacting your ISP, or just wait it out
this is like the snappening of vrchat
today we press F in the chat for our fallen comrades
F
@whole rapids if you can visit VRChat without getting the captcha check then yeah you should be good (with the new update)
I think it updated cus when i opend steam it said 5:48pm vrc update @polar jasper
Am I the only one who struggles now to log in?
nope
oh good
gonna see if starting it up will force it to check for an update
in case anyone is wondering, i fired up the VPN i just paid for and i can log in fine
it is our IP addresses being blacklisted still is why we cannot log in
so we are essentially banned until the devs have our IPs manually unblacklisted from cloudflare
That sucks.
for the last 12 hours i just wanted to test blinking, so now i can go back to modeling
I was lucky enough not to play yesterday, so I'm not blacklisted. :p
worth $10 for the VPN 👌
it is just until this stuff is fixed
If anyone struggles now to log in
ohh who is gonna pay 1000$ for a free game
it is like buying a movie ticket for the day
@mighty frost VR I presume?
most vpns has free trials tho
no one gets to tell me how to spend my earned money. period.
yeee
i don't trust free VPNs tbh
if I were you I'll just restart my modem, and hope I will get a different IP
I recommed using VPN, I'm using BetterNetVPN
no body tells u how to spend ur money @stable pilot
if you have cable you probably can do that
i am using torguard, been using it for 5 years off and on
Betternet is also free
torguard has an app you just install and click connect on and it works
Same with Betternet
Does anyone know how to exit camera mode in MMD Dance stage?
same with about every other vpn nowadays
^
anyways i am gonna go back to modeling... my model is like 95% done yay
press it a couple more times
Spam F9?
it's great when you check out a VPN website and suddenly every ad you get is for NordVPN lmao
that might be because of your chrome / w10 settings
yeah
so does this update patch this bug?
lets face it, vrchat killed it's own users
yes
I don't think it was VRChat causing the issue though?
cloudflare helped but mainly vrchat
LOL honigball
ip addresses are shared between a household
rip big families
i couldnt play and talk with my good friends on one time they are all on bc of this
!online
There are 5243 users in VRChat currently
like they are rarley online all at once
:v
Soooo when can i acctualy play the game?
lets also face the fact that we've all been swept under the rug, if i get kicked because of this statement(or if this gets deleted) it's true
never random... never
is there gonna be an update, one just hit i restarted and nothing happened
same
yea, still no update for me. stuck on old build
game over man, game over
this is what ye get for playing the game regularly kappa
@plush osprey Try restarting Steam to get the new update. :p
I got the update, but I'm already in captcha hell because I didn't know about this issue 😂
can I get a summary of what the heck happened today?
i play from the Oculus store @wispy fog
banned for two weeks because I played VRChat normally
people in captcha hell because they were in VRchat
@vocal shard same
also, full time steamers have the right to sue vrchat because income is now lost, check https://clips.twitch.tv/BreakableCarelessSheepMikeHogu for source
Basically, a client bug made your game spam network messages, causing VRChat's DDoS protection to blacklist you, they're working on it. :p
If we would be outside breathing fresh oxygen and having fun with real life people it would never happen x')
@patent bronze Check VRChat's ToS first before you say that!
essentially... the game ddos itself
soooo how long will this take?
@wispy fog are they really working on it though
@patent bronze It does not. Stop spreading this information. The cloudfare ToS and VRchats ToS make you SOL.
So stop spreading harmfull, fake news.
They'll be doing something. It takes time, they're a small team of people working on a free game man. Don't be so needy, patience. :p @patent bronze
we cannot sue vrchat for loss of income, huh
Basically
i was told this so im not purposefully spreading fake news @umbral reef
i do have it on steam as well.. i'll see if updating it through steam will also fix the Oculus version
I've updated my steam and Vrchat, but they haven't changed. Maybe I should change my computer?😂 😂 😂
@rain turtle thank you. also goshdang this should NOT have happened.
Why would you even want to, they are just people, everyone makes mistakes, just that one time they are small and one thime they are captcha
@patent bronze Then now you know- And its best to ask these things instead of just spreading it around. Loads of harmfull things get spread this way within the community ;p
same shity no working
the latest update ( build 748.) seems to fix the issue, but people are still flagged as bot by cloudflare tho
im done looking for answears bois im off to play a game that acctualy loads when i press the button
I would love to address something. Because I am tired of randoms assuming things. Just let the mods handle the situation n quit making people scared. I am tired of listening different variations of why VRChat is broken right now. Pay attention to the announcements they place. I do not trust anyone in public lobby or any other chat channels in here, just the announcement.
Hey are you???? @rain turtle
Essentially there's a reason those long Walls of text you get when installing programs... they basically say "We're not liable for any damages you suffer for using this program... because you're free to decide when to use it and when to not use it"...
Ragnarok world maker? @rain turtle
@gilded ferry Mods are not official VRchat workers or have any inside knowledge though.
The devs wont comment on this (not that odd). So users informing users is the norm in here.
I mean I had bout $5000 worth of online good bought on a game which I now can't play because it's server has been shut down... Can I sue them? of course not
I meant the VRC team, sorry I missleaded
Sometimes when the Devs dont mention it the people here have too
Ha.... i want play...😂 😂 😂
whoaaa I liked it!, it looks amazing and thanks for making it
but in the training grounds there should be a mirror @rain turtle
this is even worse than private lobbies
how do i check if cloudflare has flagged me
the training grounds has mirrors but the migration to 2017 unity broke it I think, will look into it! @inland marsh
also if you made thanatos avatar, I'll appreciate that
if you can't figure that out... then you're likely not flagged because everyone who has been flagged says they see captchas everywhere
i see captchas occationally
im guessing people still cant get into vrchat because im still not able to get in im still stuck on the loading screen
@patent bronze Google vrchat, click the link, if you see the captcha thing, congratulations
im guessing om not banned?
THE V is not working
oh I see, thanks again for making all those great RO worlds keep up! ^^ @rain turtle
when i logged into the website i got one of those captcha
You are flagged then, as i know. Just wait and be patient, nothing much you can do. It should be all right
hi fellow loading screen inhabitants
@little rampart so the patch fixes the issue for people from now on, but if you were already blacklisted, you cannot login until that is also fixed
i tried a VPN and was able to finally get in right away
Well, problem fixed, having that dynamic IP helps 😂
I was able to log in 5 minutes ago, but I exited to fix something and now I can't log in again
same @vocal shard
i was never blacklisted (?)
the worst thing about gigabit fiber is a static IP
oof.
i still have an infinate loading screen on vrchat
get off vrc
same
lol thanks for letting me know that I'm not alone
that infinite loading screen is because you cannot pass the captcha check built into vrchat
how to pass it? @vocal shard
you dont
Change your IP
you were blacklisted because of a bug in vrchat, change your IP will fix this issue
Hmm, Which VPN do you suggest to use?
It seems I need vpn in order to download proton vpn... lol
mullvad.
i did get a captcha before i subbed to a VPN today
It seems I need vpn in order to download mullvad vpn... lol
but captcha is everything, captcha is life... do you know the captcha?
i need to make a captcha avatar now
Is Cloudflare apart of steam cuz i load every other website fine but steam takes forever to load on browser
Yeah steam takes long for me to do that too now
desktop version works fine
Yeah my desktop's fine but when i click steam links people send me it takes 10 years to load xd
Even League isn't showing the news n stuff 😢
im able to play its just that the Oculus launcher isn't updating Vrchat for me
they said the oculus launcher patch will take longer
Ah League haven't played that in ages I really lost track of all the updates and it['s hard for me to understand everything now >.>
how long?
beats me panic, i just read the announcement on discord
They should make some switch to turn on/off vrchat, so they can work peacefully on things instead of having people try to log in and slow them down
Unless thats not how it works :v
why am I blocked from half the internet after trying to play vrc this morning?
Cloudflare blacklist shrug
Cuz some oopsies happened
Happy accidents happened
is the cloudflare thing really that bad??
servers work now?
guys
VRC just recently hade an update but im not getting anything in steam
yea, they should shut the servers down if it gets this bad again
Restart @storm stag
for me, the update was almost instant because it is only 1 MB
It really is @patent bronze
already restarted Steam many times
when your work relies on the internet getting blocked from a majority of it is an issue @patent bronze
Just be patient c:
Pat pat @storm stag
Did the game work after updating it? @vocal shard
Restart pc maybe :o
There are 5080 users in VRChat currently
Try to restart your PC itself @storm stag
It's Endless Loading Screen For me its looping too, there is a fix for it? or just the servers shut down
well i dont think im blocked
i am using a VPN now zata because i am impatient
what about the others? did they get the update yet?
@vocal shard There is currently no fix for it or a VPN
Hahahahaha I see @vocal shard
also i need to sleep in VRC, but i need Update first
otherwise wait @vocal shard
Steam chat seems dead
@vocal shard Its some IP stuff issues, just be patient for now. You wont be able to get on vrchat and you will have some websites fcked up because of it, atleast thats how it is for me
ok @inland marsh
@vocal shard its a blacklist thing on CloudFlares end. if your IP is dynamic then the issue should be gone in a couple days
VRChat support will fix for all the vrchat loading issue?
I could not log in all the time even after update not. Then restarted my Internet router and then it worked again. - I don´t know if that could help some people
They are trying to fix it, we just have to wait @vocal shard
@half vector that is because your IP changed
@vocal shard But its happened only to me or some peoples too?
A lot of peoples c:
Is protonVPN good ?
I don't really have money rn x'D
Got no idea about that @vocal shard
Dunno how this stuff works. Ill just wait myself, i got time, whole life actually
@vocal shard try restarting your router at least...
Uninstalled and reinstalled the game, now working for me HACKERMAN
I did it
Article13 confirmed to mess up VRChat?
:pog:
2 times bro
Then you have static IP, am i understanding it right?
Just wait, theres a cookie 🍪 , you can take it if you want c:
I still get the bug that happens when you go to a world and get stuck tho
you can also change the IP sometimes by spoofing your mac address of your router
it all depends on how your ISP handles things
🍪 Thank you @vocal shard
back when i had comcast i would just change my router mac address any time i wanted a new IP
one of my friends solved the problem by rebooting the router, i guess she has the dynamic IP
So CloudFlare blocked some ip's that why i can't join the game?
yes
its not showing to me the login screen only Loading Screen
it should at least show you the logging in as screen
if you don't know whether your ip is static or dynamic
https://pattersonsupport.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10572/~/determine-ip-address-and-static-or-dynamic
this is how to check
Oh I got a free vpn
@vocal shard never knew that told you tbh
It works now x)
where does it tell you @vocal shard
Mira VPN Might IP banned you
i know it No Bread Available
using free VPNs is unsafe
people who get banned from things use free VPNs
It's the free version of a paid one @vocal shard
@vocal shard where does it tell you if it's dynamic or not
lol @primal fable
nvm i got it
I just wanna be able to stream tonight that's the only reason I want that freakin VPN workin xD
right, i can't stream either without a VPN now
did you look at your OBS? every single window you use as an overlay will be a captcha now
@primal fable I wanna just access my revision materials >.>
I can't even get into a league game now without a VPN
and sky I can send you the VPN I'm using, IDK if it's safe r something but it said Secure server 😛
Nah I don't like using VPN and other apps I use if they detect VPN they ban you
which vpn is it mira?
ProtonVPN is what I'm using rn
oh i have that one
oh right, you can't play some games now because they use the same thing vrchat does with cloudflare
vrchat basically banned you from a good chunk of games temporarily
nice choice, i used to use tunnelbear but it got worse
Yeah it's Fairly messed up to say in the least,
And yeah my friend gave it to me, said Use this it's trustworthy
But the odd thing is, I asked my friends if they could log into vrchat around 1PM (European time)
And they could just log in normally even tho they were online with me last night, I only tried like 10 minutes before them.
Kinda odd but ok 🤷
the one i use (torguard), gives me over 100 mbits up/down
Mine gives me 69 download and 24 upload 🤷
as long as it is enough for streaming
69
nice
O wait, if my IP is dynamic, reseting router changes the IP right?
Reseting as unplugging the cable and plugging it back in?
Jup
I Think so yeah @vocal shard
Neat, will be back in a second then lol
sleep, it may do that, but you may also need to change your router's mac address
it depends on how your ISP handles it
Ill try unplugging and plugging the cable and see if it works lol
ive been listening to Spotify for 6hours now nothing else and waiting for VRChat to be fixed
same
lol
Teehe, didnt work
Guess ill just wait
ive just been screwing around with my world
@vocal shard tbh i dont think VRChat needs fixing now. More you getting unblacklisted from CloudFlare
can non-blacklisted folks log on?
i can login to the website but not the game
The website was always fine just needed a captcha for it
same
The flagged peeps just need to wait and hope it'll be allright :v
can non-flagged peeps log on tho
Dunno, probably but im assuming they do have some issues
is there a way to check you have been flagged by cloudflare
should i try to log on?
Go on random websites and check if big captcha screen shows up @ornate wind
9gag, patreon, vrchat, pornsites, whatever
@ornate wind if you're asking that, you're not
@vocal shard Pornsites We have seen you've been trying hard to access Pornhub.
Uuuuuuuuuh
https://www.vrchat.net/home/ I see some of my friends online, so people are definitely able to get in @patent bronze
yeah i think i have been flagged patreon has me asking for captcha
I mean, luckily pornhub works for me, though nhentai not quite
muhahahaha
@ornate wind Congratulations then, you are flagged xD
https://whatismyipaddress.com/ <--- Pressing it then pressing Show me more about my IP then clicking the blacklists if you're intrested what black listed you.
can someone tell me what is this ?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/440477425726521344/567757277554016276/12121212.PNG?width=589&height=570
oof
@elfin cloak bug announcement, nothing to be worried about
oh ok then
thanks
no prob
Patpat @elfin cloak Theres a cookie 🍪 C:
rip, i think im blacklisted
spinning vrchat logo
there needs to be a pinned post about that message lol
I dont think its needed, as i understood only people who are flagged have issues, the ones who werent are fine
The flagged ones just need to wait and hope they get un-flagged or something, though if they dont, i dunno, i guess its just time to commit die
i think i will try to reset my router since my isp gives me dynamic ip that may fix it for me
the current state of connections mean it keeps popping up for people and those who see it for the first time end up wasting their time asking what it is...
You can try, it shouldnt hurt you @ornate wind

hi
I reset my router but it didnt work :C
Wish it was winter honestly, it would be all dark and quiet, it would be so great, i could go to sleep 5h earlier
Are the servers in maintenance?
when i was playing steal and gold
suddenly my windows stop working
i hear endless sound loop
and the message "the windows run's into a trouble and it neads to restart"
is that vrchat bug cause that or my pc hardware?
wait can we upload avatars because it keep saying forbidden
Hol up.
I dunno how it works but, what if vrchat didnt use cloudflare? No such thing would happen?
are tou verified yet how long do you have ur vrchat account
im a user
nopers for me
150
so i rather should not log onto vrcjat today
lmao i got flagged by cloudflare, can't even get streamelements overlay to work for my stream so literally have to do a scuff no-overlay stream
i had to stream without alerts today
what a joke
@solar spindle same issue here man... can't stream
this is what my stream looks like: https://clips.twitch.tv/BreakableCarelessSheepMikeHogu
@vocal shard Umm. That's not really supposed to be for this. Think of all the kids who might stumble upon the word
wHaT If tHiS Is sOmE ElAbOrAtE PlOy tO PuLl a tHaNoS SnAp wItHoUt uS KnOwInG ThAt iT WaS A SnAp?
?
Insufficient evidence to prove that theory
it was a joke to lighten the mood
the vrchat snap is real
i have been doing nothing for over 6 hours because i have nothing else to do cause i have been waiting to be unblacklisted
well the unity vrchat sdk thing also doesnt work soooo im bored now
Cook some food for family c:
Take nap, or three. Have 4h long shower or just take 7 baths.
Sleep for 2 days straight. Dunno what else.
Hmmm
or pay for a VPN to get your vrchat fix
can you play with vpn?
I just don't get the Buy a VPN to play
Not everyone has monies/month, remember that. And free VPNs.. you know.. c;
@vocal shard And... What about the other people using the same internet I just don't think VPN is a valid solution
hey
Well yesh, and family members being affected by it too. Not everyone wants to use VPN, many reasons why.
VRChat is free game, not monthly sub like WoW lol
umm..
I don't want to get IP Banned so i don't use VPN
So I'm gonna slay the next person who says use a vpn
Is it only me stuck on the loading screen?
no

Ill eat him/her later on @hard fiber
@vocal shard Would say Go on but... By the time I'm done it'll just dust left.
VPN Is Shit
dust of the players who got snapped
We could use that dust as a spice on other victi- food
is it fixed yet
nope
Yes and No xd
do
{unblacklist "all"}
Hackers: Red flares on eyes
Fixed for the people who haven't been flagged but no for the rest of us :D
ah, I see that others are getting stuck on the loading screen as well
wait a day and then start crying.
I'm not having any issues with cloudflare sites but the build didn't help anything -- websocket still exploding every second on 748.
wait why start crying?
@light pivot I think that's intended, the fix was to stop the client DoS'ing cloudflare/VRC I believe.
What is the cause for the flag? is it random or is it something users have done?
either case they got people who did nothing wrong in the way
probably cloudflare hitting false positives on people
I managed to get in with my vpn at least.
uh wha?
vrchat kept trying to reconnect to itself which caused the flags
^
Ah so it's not the users fault, ok thats cool.
its sorted vrc side, cloudflare however...
the thing is dont want to contact the ISP im too lazy
yeah
@still lark Appears it's fine if I connect via my VPN
websocket is connecting fine then
Yeah because the vpn isn't blocked by cloudflare
Yeah but that's a temp solution. @vocal shard We have our first victim.
how am i just hearing about cloudflare today because i never knew about it untill today
@hard fiber I cant even imagine contacting my ISP, social anxiety much lmao.
Theres another cookie for you 🍪
cloudflare is never spoken about until it breaks :P
@rigid crescent Yeah, at the same time, I'm not having any issues with cloudflare sites, which typically I should be. Weird.
I can't even imagine leaving my chair to get my phone right now @vocal shard Im like dying and dont want to move
More cookies then 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪
It is a good time to die
Okay, I was investigating and it looks like even those IPs that aren't blacklisted by CludFlare are still blacklisted by other DNS for beign Dynamic/Domestic and that may be the problem
(at least is my case blblbl)
@light pivot Ur dead Kills you @vocal shard there you go our first victim.
Nom uwu
I guess its time to experience real life once again, cleaning room, eating, going outside for fresh oxygen, blerh.
This sounds scary already and im still in my chair
I already did all of that
0o0
I'm not mad, just worried about this affecting all in general and not just VRChat
Yeah same here honestly, all the po- recipe sites not working properly
Though i might be worried about vrchat not working the most, i dont want to go back to real life, thats why i am playing vrchat >~>
Nah hell no i am not going outside anytime. Its time to sleep for next few days till im unflagged
Hibernation activated
im also not going outside either
We could make group call with mics on and just go sleep, but i am too afraid to lmao.
Would be nice if they would say if they have or intend to talk to cloudflare to get the blacklisting issue resolved for anyone who got flagged from VRC, though
ahem @vocal shard i would sleep but I got my finals coming up next week and i cant access my online notes D:::
when u load into vrchat why does it say. thsi is an annoucement Then spam text in loading screen
Im half unsure and half dead that they are trying to fix stuff w/ cloudflare. Theres no point really in announcing it, just gotta wait.
@hard fiber You cant really do anything anyway right now, thanks to cloudflare.. This sucks though wth ;-;
@floral quiver Its like a test announcement, dont worry about it.
@hard fiber Maybe you have different ISP on phone data or whatever? If so, u should be able to use it and have everything work properly
Nah I'll bring up my inner asian and creating things out of midair
i still cant get on to vrchat
Just wait come on D:
Theres a cookie 🍪
thanks and i have ;3;
even though the vrchat team should be contacting cloudflare about the false flag attack if you did get flagged you should probably contact cloudflare yourself.
no vrchat no life 
just give them a wall of text explaining the situation
What spamming you animal, Wryy is not spamming.
also be sure to mention to cloudflare that you have a low orbit ion cannon aimed at their hq if they do not unflag you. they will surely comply
somehow, i doubt im gonna be unbanned, might just be my pessimism though 🤔
Man, can you imagine being cut off from vrchat and discord.
What would i do? I'd have no reason to be alive. This is spooky
^
No one has any reason to believe they won't be unblocked
still VRChat Loading screen omg
https://imgur.com/a/8wvDiVb
xD
Yare yare daze
thats will never fix for me right?
im confused by that message @rigid crescent it seems like a triple negative is messing with my brain
still VRChat Loading screen omg thats will never fix for me right?
I see you are very patient sleng lol.
Slides in cookie~ 🍪
Smug
i cant even access cloudflare
https://gyazo.com/a0081eb871d9cc640c0b75a7c7d1d5dc
this appears even when i solve it
hey has anyone made a public avatar of the character from oneshot
vrchat and the sdk are off for me, evrything broked in the servers ? xd
Hah lmao, not just that ma'am. Be patient and wait for #announcements
@drifting sedge Is VRChat Loading Screen For You Too?
welp, when i solve a capcha on the website it just redirects me to the same captcha
@vocal shard ye can't even upload cos sdk is not singing and says offline
VRCaptcha
guess im banned
not even an announcement
When i join VRChat Its Show me Loading Screen Of VRCHat and its endless and its looping tho
wtf is happening to this game ?
do the devs know about this?
i dont think so
your ip is currently under blacklist via Cloudflare, just be patient.
They do, they just say the cloudflare stuff is a rumor
cause one of vrchat teams in #announcements type something today and he didn't saw here what happened
'rumor' - everything points at cloudflare at this point
not saying your wrong, just that its been labelled off as a rumor
just give it time
but i want to play now
get a vpn
patience will get people a lot further, rather than impatience and entitlement
try a vpn
Maybe you want to play now but cloudflare doesnt want you to play now lmao
no no no i will get ip banned i will be patient
you wont get ip banned for using a vpn b
vpn will work fine if you're happy going that way
45% yes 55% no (to get ip banned by VPN)
I dunno, calling "getting annoyed due to getting banned off cloudflare" "entitlement" isn't great regardless
I thinked before that was my vrchat problem but when i joined vrchat discord i saw a lot of things happened to vrchat servers and a lot of peoples have this loading screen
i did anything to try fix it but nothing was work so i see the discord and a lot of peoples have it
Just play some other game, you'll be fine. Keep waiting and see what will happen. If they wont be able to fix it then you can try fixing it yourself
You won't get Banned for using a VPN infact the VRC Team Encourage the use of VPN's due to the IP exploit going around.
I recommend myself RAWVPN its cheap and won't slow you down. There are free VPN's out there but normally they come with adware and very slow servers.
If all the things will be fixed so they will say in #announcements right?
Working Now
@vocal shard Probably yeah, they say whats important in here.
If you are flagged via Cloudflare, vrchat cannot fix that. They fixed the error that caused that. seemingly
@vocal shard KILL THESE VPNERS
@vocal shard problem and I'd the cloudflare blacklist is stopping people form playing other games
@hard fiber VPN will do the work for me later on lmao
So "just go play Halo forehead" isnt really an option
@vocal shard KILL THE SLEEEP SLEEPY SLEPIES
Well, r6s worked for me just fine. I guess it depends on the games/websites.
I cant really contact cloudflare by email or something since i cant quite see it lol
@hard fiber I did nothing wrong im just sleeping, though death sounds promising, go ahead.
cloudflare is flagging ip's for spam and since you cant verify on vrchat you are unable to log in
just use a vpn
but why, wtf is wrong whith cloudflare
restarted my router and all that so gonna see if that fixes it
they got ddosed most likey my guy
Most likely
my ip just got banned on some sites lmao
@worldly delta 🔪
oof
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i think restarting my router might of fixed it
it'll go away, just wait it out
restarting your router doesnt fix it your ip stays the same
No VPN's allowed. Stinky
usually under a day
does anyone here have problems with logging in on the VRChat account?
My IP is not dependant on my router, though it's not fixed, talked to ISP.
Hell, I can only imagine what could've happened if I've accepted the request of obtaining static IP.
Can't log in, now we wait for the IP refresh
Need to make cloudflare account to submit a request lmao no thank you.
NB4 I guess some other games will screw me as well, as Cloudflare protects a lot of servers
just wait it out theres nothing you can do really well to whats allowed kappa
@vocal shard I've created the account and still ahve no freaking idea how to submit a request lmao
i disconected my router and restarted it now its fixed X3
Cool
Happy for you, not the case for me 😄
Im not sure if that works but theres what i have after clicking to submit a request https://dash.cloudflare.com/login?account=support
Maybe it'll redirect you to the page where u submit it, dunno
just try pulling the plug on the router and then plug it back in maybe itle fix
I don't have any websites added, so I guess i don't have the support option?
wait it is fixed for me ?
@ember ermine it will fix it only if your IP is dynamic to a point when it changes on the router disconnect. Not the case for me, for me it stays the same
ahh ok
My IP is dynamic and after restarting router it didnt change either, unless im doing something wrong lol
nah, it depends on your ISP.
It just means that ISP changes your IP when it runs out of its own pool.
Basically means that your ISP's pool of IP address is large. Some ISPs make it so you will be assigned new IP on every network disconnect to mitigate the small IP pool
anyone that has a link to a birb discord server
Uhuh, im half understanding it, but thats okay lol.
Ill prob go eat, take shower then sleep till its fixed.
Though i feel like they wont be quite able to fix the cloudflare stuff
Oh about the submit on cloudflare. Try clicking the "Support" button on top right and try searching for "Submit a request"
@vocal shard when your IP changes, all the problems with Cloudflare should go away
Yeah that i know, just that idk how to change it without putting more effort than unplugging and plugging the cable back in in router xD
its fixed now
just wait, usually no more than a day
@keen zodiac it can't be fixed from VRchat team, mine and Sleep's IP addresses are now marked by Cloudflare
the issue is fixed though, yes. Not the casualties though
go try to login now a bunch of us from the public lobby just logged in and it worked
Actually yeah
@silver forge ajjj yeah the casualties
Yeah, I'm past the infinite loading screen without VPN. Huh
Interesting
yeah i guess it got unfucked
@silver forge
Cmd
ipconfig /all
Lease obtained - 16april, 2019, 12:33
Lease expires - 16april, 2019, 21:59
Dunno if thats what are you talking about, but its like 1h30min of waiting
hello, anything cool happening?
Nothing much but theres a cookie 🍪
@vocal shard I've jsust logged in easily, try logging
Just tried second ago, nothing else but VRChat logo spinning and Loading...
where is u from
why my F🅱S crunchy? i get 7 FPS top since update in desktop mode
Shithole.
I have a feeling that cloudflare slowly un-flags IP's?
no sound either
I've heard it takes 2 weeks for that slepies
im just wondering since ive had no problems im from Finland
havent been able to read up on it, seeing as im blocked out of cloudflare's website
I mean, as i can see some people couldnt log in and now they can. So im assuming they are doing something
only problems that ive had with the game are just getting thrown back home or that sometimes it loads completely but it wont give me the go button, but a quick restart fixes that
and people with clients
The IP thing is fixed!!!! (well for me)
guess that means the complaining will stop for a while
i can access my lovely notes now....
Can anyone tell me why the VRChat website always logs me out when i refresh the page? I want it to keep me logged in.
hey there does anyone have a public avatar that is good for mutes or knows where i could get one?
How can people tell it's a cloudfare issue?
@hard fiber Paying for VPN needed much huh? xD
@upbeat dust They slap you with captcha, thats how i understand it
Lol buying VPN (idk some of my friends stil ldont work)
But it works for me now so I'm fixed
so... like, someone figured out it was a cloudfare issue because someone started vrchat up like normal and a captcha flung up in their face?
Im having a feeling that they slowly un-flag IP by IP.
And there was that one guy who bought VPN for 10$ lol. Yare yare daze
yeah i think they're slowly unflagging people
Some people have solved it literally by resetting their modem/router lol...
Ughh im horrrible at explaining things. @upbeat dust
You can scroll up and look at what people wrote.
But simply saying vrchat did a backflip on teeth, cloudflare thought the users are bots that spam like ddos or something, and the IPs got flagged, resulting in you seeing captcha verification on many websites
They solved it because of ISP and dynamic ip. In my case i might just have to wait for like 1h more till my IP changes
Though fun thing i just noticed.
!online
come on bot, show the 15 users
Oh ho ho nvm its 5k again lol
oh i see, that's why i've had all these captchas. what a mess up
@upbeat dust not everyone has a dynamic router lol...
Then they'd have to manually swap ip. if that's how it works, not sure
i have static ip so yeep evreyone can't just change their ip
That requires calling the ISP and stuff
With exception to the bot here, and steamdb, is there another way to tell how many players are online, including oculus users?
I always check steamdb, but someone says it doesn't pick up oculus users, so...
this meant vrchat got my entire university's net (shared external ip) marked a bot huh
Usually I never find us being over 9k people online, but someone said he could see us be at 12k on everyday
@vocal shard that's what i wonder about people in Uni dorms and stuff like did you fuck over a lot of people xd
Yeah I was in a dorm last night, I had captcha on literally every website but I dunno if anybody else did
If they had same IP, they did. :v
anyone else having problems with frames since last update of vrchat?
rip main vrchat api branch
Origin down

so.. no vrchat tonight?D:
could not login - origin down wtf
Patpatpatpat Maybe they will fix it soon, its been a while now
i think i regret logging out of vrchat when this happened
yep
vrchat homepage is dead too
origin down aswell
origin down
For anyone seeing "origin down" , vrchat's api is completely down. Even if you were in game, i believe everything stops working
api crashed or something
nice
The main branch of it*
lol
Avatars stops loading, hence why it was stuck in loading avatar
Dev branch seems to be working fine though lol 👏
maybe ron failed to pay bills for amazon servers o:
oh well wait another hour or two ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Whats happening rn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj12LaDvwKA
the moment i realize how addicted i am to vrc
@lapis rain I feel
vrc servers in a nutshell http://upload-filter.expert/iStock-1124233190.jpg
The only thing i can see on that is captcha verification xD
Time to go outside bois
Though not all is lost.
r/animemes work!
Don't give in and go outside
why does it say error when i tryed to log back in when it crashed when it said error i broke my glass of water
origin downnnnn
but im a monkey i dont want to come of vr i want to live in vrchat and eat with my headset on
What is Origin?
nice login very nice 10/10
Quick unplug it and plug it back in
@vocal shard This!! And sleep and hug and love and throw plates at random people to make them feel pain
at least it doesnt mean ea's origin so i can play battlefield now or apex xd
well, I guess we gotta go outside now
@vocal shard Just like i would read about myself.
And they just made announcement telling me to wait more woohoo x')
Wha
what does ORIGIN DOWN means
im not waiting for another 7 hours for it to work again
It means that you have to be patient and wait
Love this game's reliability 
I’m just here cause salt is flowing here
what am i going to do now live in the real world im not ready for this yeeeet
you want some popcorn with that salt?
@vocal shard like every 5 days or so
The outside is waiting 👀
The one week I decide to actively play this game it is down for hours
I must live in the virtual world forever. I am not a Halo ODST in the real world.
Ppl outside are ugly compared as in IG
alright
I waited about 14 hours today. ha......
lmfao
time to be a productive member of society
i never saw any game more instable than vr chat
@vocal shard so the game goes down, it’s not there fault. Its because of problems with their services
i cant go outside im in my Pjs
Yes gimme the popcorn @karmic talon
ok that'll be $1,59
I need my mirrorRP god damnit
vrchat is ded
crabdance
i went outisde once @willow kiln @vocal shard
the graphics were cool but the gameplay was shit
Drago, erping? Since when
Their shit got down at 02:00 (my time)
So i can say that i was waiting 19 hours now for it to work lul
i need my virtual boyfriend wth
!online
nope, didn't work ;-;
am i the only person who can't log in to vrc?
Nope
@karmic talon fuck, i dont got moneys
oh, literally everyone cnan't log in
@grand harbor yes
IDK my rifle graphics on my AR15 IRL are pretty damn good and the gunplay is ON POINT.
is it me or im not able to join?

fuck...........
@grand harbor nah whole servers got 💣
I'm just waiting for the announcement
cool and (not so)good
#announcements @sinful stag
Hey bby @shell apex 
I wonder, if it was amazon services that are the issue, why isn't it more widespread @pale hull 🤔
Vrc bot just restarted itself lmao. Maybe itll all work again!
@sinful stag your profil gif just gave me some life energy
@pale hull Bruh
okay
im gonna be super sneaky and ask again if anybody got a good avatar for mutes or knows a place where i can find one now that more people are here
a cooldown
I can feel the cold
Stop being a mute and use your voice,.
@shell apex Need any help with that? I got 2 hands and 2 feets
easier said then done
@vocal shard I think it was the cloud flare services, which prevent ddos and shit. It’s been having problems for the past week
@lapis rain
👍
VrChat works
w h a t s c l o u d f i r e?
@pale hull Well, with their websocket causing cloudflare to go crazy ya, but cloudflare throws back host down error, a bit different
@shell apex @vocal shard
@shell apex Thats a big question mark though~
basically web protection something
Could not log in - Origin Down
When exactly did that whole blacklist thing start? 😅
#announcements @vocal shard
Rip Drago
Tfw vrchat ddos'd cloudflare with our clients
^
RIP drago, you will be missed.
^^^
^^^^
RIP VRChat servers
Anybody have a general idea on a scale of 1-10 how hard it is for the average person to create an avatar?
Blame tupper
!online
#announcements @everyone
@vocal shard Does this count as star number 3?
sqrt(-2)
@sharp jasper Fully create or import?
@sharp jasper theres tutuorials out there that will take you through start to finish for something like MMD models, its around less than 2 hours
Either or
Sure I guess? @zinc vortex
can someone give an estimate for how much time do I have to wait for the cloudfire thing?
Sup
!online
I'd like to see some sort of official statement from the vrc team about the cloudflare bs
it's nontrivial but possible once you put in enough hours
!online
!claimcharm
!online
i want 2 die
me too
same
same
No one is playing lul