That is a relief.
#vrchat-general-2
formal sequoia
Some people in SL sorta.... Expect you to be on 24/7.
Especially in the long standing RP communities.
"Oh, you weren't on to read my patrol report, etc etc."
ruby burrow
Speaking as an introvert that has sort of discovered a new social side of myself, since joining VR-Chat, I've found the nature of the casual game and it's laid back relationships to work incredibly well for me.
formal sequoia
Awwwrrrrr~
vocal shard
hot marten
oi
hot marten
....
languid beacon
Another person from SL? I was there 11 years. I find the people in VRChat much more laid back and uuuuuh. . . saner?
winged igloo
lol
There are quite a few people who used to play Second Life who now play VRChat. I never played SL myself since I was scared off by people just seeming plain weird
languid beacon
Vrchat is better in every way except not having user scripting. I really miss that.
opaque hawk
I’m looking forward to digging into visual scripting again. I messed with game maker dnd awhile back
winged igloo
Udon is something in the works that will allow scripting for making worlds and such, going to be amazing once they release that
umbral reef
Soon(TM)
languid beacon
I’ve never touched a visual scripting language before. Not sure if I’m gonna feel held back not being able to type actual code
umbral reef
If you understand how programing works but dont know any languages you cna use visual scripting ;p
opaque hawk
Most likely you will feel that way at first
umbral reef
Things like Lego mindstorm use visual scripting to teach kids how to code.
Its not that complex if done right
languid beacon
I know c++ c# and java but I type it not connect wires and blocks :p
I’m missing the analogy are the blocks functions?
umbral reef
You ever worked with shader forge?
umbral reef
Think of it like that pretty much
Loads of lose groups that you can connect
And depends how they make it really
opaque hawk
I started learning c++ in January.
languid beacon
Well I’m really looking forward to it. Pity avatars won’t have it though
formal sequoia
SL is fine if you take part in one of the like 15 year long RP campaign servers.
languid beacon
An easier way to do complex gesture state machines would be really useful
formal sequoia
Outside of those it's awful.
languid beacon
Yeah I hate RP personally
I’d rather jump out the nearest window than ad lib anything
languid beacon
SL kept me around for over a decade because I loved the scripting language and loved making stuff with it
Vrchat keeps me around for the easy world building and finally being able to host them for free
winged igloo
The being able to host them for free is huge, when Udon comes in and allows scripting we could see people essentially creating entire games in VRChat
formal sequoia
Correct.
That is what my home server is, a Final Fantasy RPG more or less made by fans.
Where you play the little people/civilians/insignificant MPs/Soliders/etc of FF7.
You know, the ones you get to see die in the end cinematic.
And it has a combat system etc.
winged igloo
VRChat offers a stable, multiplayer VR platform to build on, that will be huge for many people as they now won't need to make that themselves
formal sequoia
Yup.
You can make entire VR Simulations.
Skyrim-like, Cyberpunk-like, etc etc
Whatever your flavour of tea.
makes World of Jojo Bizzare Adventure
We can RP ghost fights!
languid beacon
Yeah not needing pay anything for world hosting is why vrc is sucking SL’s users away. At least the ones that can part with their huge inventories.
pale void
The platform might be stable.. but many of the users are not 😃
languid beacon
Some things never change
lunar shell
I've played Second life since 2005 and even made money selling virtual things for avatars. They blew it when they didn't update it for VR and instead opened up Sansar.
languid beacon
Yeah they had all this coming. People were screaming for mirrors, shaders, vr support for a long time and they didn’t deliver so someone else came along and I’m happy they did
lunar shell
Another case of a company not listening and failing miserably.
formal sequoia
Sansar is such gaaaaaarbyage.
languid beacon
It’s bad but it wouldn’t be failing if they didn’t decide to make it incompatable with over a decades worth of content from their previous platform
Because if we are going to lose our content anyway then we get to pick the best platform to move to
formal sequoia
True!
Failing is generous.
Failed.
"Timmy is failing, but if he pulls his laces up he'll be able to pass this year."
We're at, "Timmy is a fucking moron. Sorry, he's probably going to be in grade three till he's twenty-five."
modern sand
#general-media please
queen mango
Gah.. there should be more testing of this game for lower-ended systems, seeing as DesktopLow isn't optimized enough for the lower-end..
normal abyss
Isn't that ilegal?
languid beacon
Uuh. When you say the game isn't optimized, are you refering to the user-generated content?
if there was a way to make the content more optimized i'm sure it would be done across the board regardless of quality settings
ruby burrow
That's exactly why the dy-bone limit and future plans for the performance options settings was brought in.
Isn't really a matter of testing. Everyone knows the game runs poorly for just about any system.
languid beacon
Heh, I use the limiter, though I doubled it's amounts. That seems to make people even angrier than saying I use it with default settings.
"Look at this" "Sorry, I can't see them" "Turn the limiter off!" "Actually, I doubled them, and I'm keeping it on."
ruby burrow
There's some areas left like optimising the IK networking that can probably make a good difference, and the devs tried that back at Christmas, but whatever they tried didn't work out as hoped so is out back for tinkering.
I did the same, doubled the limits. Can't go much higher with my current system.
subtle prawn
Does it work like an on off switch to DB users? Like does it max the DB you see to the limiter or does it just turns off any DBs above the limiter?
languid beacon
the limit is set per-person and applies to all the avatars they see for themselves only. They chose their own limit, any avatar they see over their own limit displays as if it has no dynbones at all
subtle prawn
Ah
languid beacon
the limit can be turned on or off, if you set your limit to 0, it acts as an on-off switch
it can be turned on and off in-game but to change the limit requires changing a config file
subtle prawn
I kind of wish it was the other if its possible, the making it the max amount you see 🤔
languid beacon
That's a little sloppy though as how would it chose which ones
it would be pretty much random and unpredictable
i'd rather my dynbones be displayed fully or not at all, only showing half of them just makes it look broken
ruby burrow
It's great to have it. Completely fixes the old problem I'd have where I'd be wanting to talk to someone (and still see them), but their crazy over dy-boned avatar would drop me to uncomfortable frame rates just looking at it.
Before my options were either, A) Disable their avatar entirely and talk to a grey bot, or B) Find somewhere else to go and try not to look at them.
subtle prawn
I most of the time try to keep the DBs I do for people 16 or under for the green rank, surely not alot of people drop it down that low :\
ruby burrow
Now I've got, C) Just talk to them as normal and have no issues. The loss of flowy hair isn't the end of the world, and I couldn't see it moving before at 11 fps anyway.
I aim for whatever I can make work whilst looking good, and sometimes make a secondary lower bone version.
Although fortunately for me my most used avatar these days is easy to fit into green.
I guess fitting into 32 bones is the natural goal for most creators now though.
Long skirts or extravagant hairstyles are usually the hardest stuff to work with.
vocal shard
can anyone load into worlds right now?
Novacorp really wants people to go there, huh? Changes the icon every second 😂
formal sequoia
Nothing there though XD
queen mango
Wait till you check the console
formal sequoia
I've been trying to go to the Grunty Pug or whatever.
And it's like, "No, back to Cafe le Blanc with you."
queen mango
The Grunty Pug?
formal sequoia
It's a pub?
queen mango
I haven't heard of that.. I think you may be referring to the Great Pug there
And yes.. it's a pub.
formal sequoia
I am, aye.
dry plover
i keep getting sent to the error world...
covert linden
@dry plover ever cleared your cache?
covert linden
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
covert linden
I Cant. Those instructions are straight forward.
@dry plover https://youtu.be/hDTof9g0DSg
opaque hawk
App data is a hidden folder FYI
covert linden
The tutorial works.
dry plover
-_-
opaque hawk
Watch the video, I’m about to drive.
dry plover
ugh
covert linden
The tutorial is literally 30 seconds long. Its straight forward.
You cannot break the game if you follow the tutorial
dry plover
@covert linden i have a picture i wanna dm you
@covert linden didnt fix cuz this game is broken
covert linden
@dry plover try whats in #vrchat-support next. Also maybe reset your router.
vocal shard
i still cant see when friends are inviting me but they can see mine
its been almost 2 weeks
covert linden
@vocal shard https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/invite-request-notifications-do-not-show-up upvote this
vocal shard
oki thanks
rough flax
It’s just you, or vrchat is having an issue at that time
torn pelican
Is it just me or are the favorite avatars not updating/saving?
royal basin
Yesterday i tried the dead space world with a friend but the world keeps freezing especially when using the flamethrower to the point my friend keeps getting desynced out of the map
I wonder if this is like a known issue
There's been sync problems with the bionix dungeon world too which wasn't there the first few times i tried the map
keen narwhal
Is anyone having problems with dynamic bones suddenly not working on their avatars in vrchat?
indigo fern
are you aware of the dynamic bone limiter update?
subtle salmon
Well, they did add a limiter recently
keen narwhal
Nop
indigo fern
if no, then in the safety menu, top right you can disable it
indigo fern
check out https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-dynamic-bone-limits to set your own custom limits
its very useful so you can cut out the actual horribly unoptimized models
but by default its very low
soft skiff
Shot some video tonight in the shop of my haptic floor system in use - https://twitter.com/Moike_the_Squid/status/1113659585842147328
bitter grail
where is the bot talk channel i wish to usethe !cleancache command
bitter grail
thank you
still lark
Can you log into the site?
still lark
Try #vrchat-support
short ingot
fixed it upon digging.
still lark
👌
jovial pulsar
My bad if people have been asking about this constantly before, but when is mic switching coming back to the game? It was gonna come back in a back right after it was taken out but it's still yet to come back.
I know you can do it outside the game, but that's a pain in the ass compared to how easy it was in the past.
covert linden
Its a unity problem, theyre trying to say the least
true sky
its was a unity problem, which is why it was disabled till until unity patches it in LTS Branch
modest epoch
Best route forward is likely upvoting this feature request: https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/change-microphone-from-settings
still lark
Just wait a week or two. 😉
spare rose
anyone know if the Easter island works? I played it yesterday and nothing happened even after apparently collecting all 100 eggs, if fact there were still eggs that needed to be collected.
languid beacon
Mic switching seems to be working correctly for me. It was broken for a while but now I can switch without relogging. Can double check but pretty sure it was working. Oculus home version though .
rigid crescent
I usually swap in-game by disabling all my other sources.
rotund wren
That works
I'm surprised they haven't added that ability back since the switch. There is many other games using the engine doing it
unless its just to prevent mic spam
then its understandable
But we'll never know because no body tell's us nottin
covert linden
@rotund wren wym told nothing? Its a unity problem. Theyd have it implimented if they could. Were wsting on unitys end.
spare rose
nvm Easter Island works. I assumed that the surprise was someone else's doing.
rotund wren
@covert linden Yet many other games using the same version have it working
languid beacon
Anyone else hear the eggs making sound via echo after the hand device beeps? No one else could hear it but it made finding eggs very easy in vr
Like the eggs themselves were beeping
covert linden
@rotund wren you know other games that use exactly .15f?
rotund wren
Its the LTS version of course there is many games using it lmao
covert linden
Then were waiting on em to.impliment it, either way, if its important to you upvote the canny
languid beacon
I don’t know much about anything but when will there be a 2018 Unity LTS
spare rose
@languid beacon I didn't experience that I believe.
rigid crescent
The only other game I've played personally that uses the same unity version also has the mic bug
It was a VR game too, forgot the name but it's in alphs as well
lethal sapphire
still lark
@rotund wren It's not the latest LTS version though. so good job. 👏
rotund wren
👐 sorry there is clearly a lot of unity experts in here that know what they're talking about. I'll let you guys fix the issue 😚 🍑
covert linden
@rotund wren its unity that has to fix it
still lark
Wouldn't say expert, more like literate.
pine dust
who wants to be my friend
modest epoch
I've seen people use them here
modest epoch
vocal shard
What's the context tho....
solemn ibex
Please fix download
Downloading in VRC is like downloading with kb/s instead of normaly mb/s with 100k internet
half hawk
ehm
is it normal that i'm stuck at "logging in as ....."
literally nothing is happening
tranquil perch
i've only had that happen twice. Restarting the game fixed it in both instances
tranquil perch
wierd. I'm not exactly sure what causes it though
grave dagger
Having the same problem since the last patch. restarting the game fixes it for me as well.
grave dagger
maybe rebooting your pc?
solemn ibex
I think the VRC Servers are the problem instead of your pc or vrc
half hawk
my pc isnt the problem or my whole desktop would be lagging
brisk dagger
#server-status and all your questions will be awnsered
half hawk
i just checked and i cant see anything about today idk how to check
cant find anything
tranquil perch
random question, when you are restarting it, have you tried restarting steam vr as a whole as well?
tranquil perch
ok, so it wasnt that. I know a while back i had issues with the youtube player until i restarted steamvr as a whole. Was hoping it was something similar
half hawk
i usually restart steamvr when my fps are dogcrap
half hawk
what i dont get is that i was playing just fine and i went to eat so i turned off my vr
i come back an hour later and now its not even logging me in
tribal orbit
Connection to vrc servers m8
fleet valve
opinions on modded sdk's and where to get one thats safe?
covert linden
@fleet valve those are forbidden and against the TOS. Best not to say that here.
fleet valve
ah
covert linden
No sympathy when the poly limit is already 70k
umbral reef
Also extremely pointless
fleet valve
if it already 70k why does mine not work at 5k?
umbral reef
Big odds something else is wrong 🤷
vocal shard
cant login
fleet valve
well thats shit i guess
vocal shard
servers down?
fleet valve
i used the vrchats sdk
vocal shard
ststuck at logging in as
fleet valve
gimme 1 sec
umbral reef
Try the steps in #vrchat-support first react
vocal shard
ive done literally nothing since yesterday when it worked for hours
but i'll check... it has worked fine daily for months
fleet valve
guess im just going to uninstall everything and install everything from the vrchat website
vocal shard
it just says Stuck logging in as Reactant.
It worked 12 hours ago. I played VR chat, closed VR chat, then launched it again today.
umbral reef
And did you try what i said yet?
vocal shard
I was hoping my issue was a common one with a simple answer instead of a huge list of steps
umbral reef
We cant look inside your game/pc to see what the problem is so like any problem we start from step 1...
fleet valve
so im gonna try that
sonic verge
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6122 users in VRChat currently
fleet valve
i havent got on vrc yet, been trying to make an avatar for a week lol
umbral reef
Also network related (and connection) problems are never easy to solve and most often need a trail and error way to solving
fleet valve
so im no help there
hopefully its not my internet, pay too damn much for it
anyone able to send my up to date and working files for dynamic, sdk and cubed
vocal shard
i fixed it by spamming the take screenshot button
fleet valve
me*
vocal shard
someone on reddit said that might fix it and it did
this game really has some glitches
covert linden
@fleet valve dynamic u need to pay for prob best not to ask for it here
languid beacon
You can get yeeted if an admin here even sees you saying what you just said @fleet valve
The SDK is available from vrchat.net and is not allowed to be distributed that is the only place you should get it based on both tos and your own safety
Cubed shaders are available via their official repository on github
Dynamic bone is available from the unity store for 20 dollars
fleet valve
they should also see it was all in innocent means
considering i stated 5k polys isnt enough
someone is helping me with it
modern sand
If there's an error when trying to upload you can let us know which it is
modern sand
Reading the TOS would help, since you agreed to it :)
fleet valve
in the discord or on the site
cause when i here millions of people are doing it i figured it wasnt an issue other than fixing a supposed error
modern sand
You'll find it on our website
fleet valve
hear*
modern sand
Millions of people ?
fleet valve
exaggeration
plucky apex
Yeet
fleet valve
good thing im over the age limit i guess
its on 5
found it
transfer, disclose, or distribute any portion of the SDK or SDK Materials or access to either to any third party, except as permitted by the license grant above; (ii) subject any portion of the SDK or SDK Materials to the terms of any “open source” or “creative commons” license; (iii) modify any of the SDK Object Code included with the SDK; or (iv) use the SDK or SDK Materials to develop code, software, or other materials for anything other than for use with the Service.
shadow ivy
You know I wish there was a way to play VR chat on iOS
They can do it with Fortnite I can do it would be VRchat
umbral reef
That not how phones or the tech works...
quick bear
why did my status go from green to blue? did I do something wrong?
vast tulip
@quick bear status?
quick bear
yeah
vast tulip
There is no way to tell. Did you remove friends?
There are many ways you can go down, but, the most common is removing friends it seems
quick bear
I blocked the people who were harassing me
so trust level is based solely on how many friends I have?
umbral reef
Not really- There are other facts but they are unknown
quick bear
It feels like I'm being punished for something I didn't do.....
umbral reef
Ey while your at it
Feel free to add me ingame (Oclac). Might help you enough to gain the rank back ;p
quick bear
there's no need for that. I'm just gonna keep to myself from now on.....
true sky
@quick bear just because 1 group harassed you shouldnt stop you from meeting other people
another reason you get deranked is several factors like deleting several avatars, deleting worlds, clearing friends lists, people blocking/muting you, and/or someone used the report button on you in app
those are the possibilities, but i can narrow it has to do with removing who were your "friends" and dont mind helping you get your rank back up ingame (Legoman99573) 😉
modest epoch
Also, don't let your nameplate affect your game ... it's a social experience, not a leaderboard.
pseudo patio
Have anyone went from Known User to just User? I didn't know you could go backwards in that system.
stable pilot
[WTB] friends
opaque hawk
Blocking/unfriending toxic people shouldn’t be something you should feel guilty over
vocal shard
i favorited some avatars and i can't unfavorite them anymore, it's greyed out
pseudo patio
Oh wow so by me getting rid of 75% of my "friends" is what brought down my Trust Rank because making friends contributes into the Trust rank along with exploring worlds and such etc.
Either that or that I changed my trust and safety system from Normal to Custom and turned everything off because I recently was ddos'd ( wifi hacked ) and got my account back with no help from vrchat moderation team.
crazy hackers...
opaque hawk
Custom safety settings shouldn’t be what demotes you. Else I would have deranked long ago
ruby needle
Reports of mass unfriending dropping you in rank are not new.
I have my own little theory about that but it'll always be a secret to why it actually happens
umbral reef
Im pretty sure the system just randomly picks a random user once a day and throws a coin to see if they should rank up or down.
pseudo patio
I only unfriend like my entire friend list and kept like ten people I actually talk to vs the many I had before. I'll just assume it's probably from mass deleting a bunch of friends.
rigid crescent
Yeah that's probably what did it
languid beacon
Interesting I assumed users could not move back to new user as it doesn’t make sense I thought the only way down from user was nuisance
rigid crescent
No people have been ranking down from purging avatars and friends for months
Like from the very start
languid beacon
Yeah trusted to known to user but first I’ve heard of someone becoming a new user rank from negative trust
rigid crescent
Even to new
If it was a lot of friends and a newer "User" I can definitely see it
And they said all but 10 so I'm guessing that's lot
vocal shard
The system might not be able to differentiate between you removing friends, and them removing you. So it's possible that the system understood it as almost your entire friends list unfriending you. Just my speculation. So idea how it actually works
languid beacon
Blues are rare around me anyone else notice that? It’s like the rarest color
Visitors yes, users known and trusted
Blue period must be short
queen mango
Not really in my case. I see New Users whenever I visit public worlds, though they're still in fewer numbers than I initially thought.
pseudo patio
I was Known User demoted to User because of unfriending ...but i think its stupid the system does that but eh its whatever because I didnt want to be friends with a bunch of people that never wanted to be friends and talk so much crap about me apparently.
I don't like drama so I just removed them all.
vivid halo
Idk what I am
rigid crescent
System Trust LEGEND, bow down
languid beacon
Expanding brain meme
Add back Veteran tank
Add Legend rank above Veteran
lunar shell
I don't like the system of ranks since we're talking about it. I'm not one to just keep adding friends to never see them again for the sake of ranking up.
languid beacon
That really doesn’t work anyways
rigid crescent
Then don't.
lunar shell
I sure hope it doesn't effect it.
rigid crescent
It does.
lunar shell
I don't want 100 friends I don't know. I want 10 friends I know well.
languid beacon
You can get trusted with no friends
rigid crescent
It's easier with friends but possible without
It's easier doing all the things but you can do it with just one or two of them
lunar shell
Except last night I got kicked by a someone who created a room for no reason.
So the road to known user will now take even longer.
rigid crescent
Small stuff doesn't matter that much
languid beacon
New user is the only meaningful rank upgrade
Everything else is kind of irrelevant and cosmetic
dark narwhal
^
opaque hawk
Known and trusted just means you can hide your power level
languid beacon
I understand wanting non-friends to see all your fancy features but 1.) most people have the safety system disabled anyway 2.) people are quick to show your avatar if they feel they are missing something everyone else is seeing 3.) im trusted and I regularly hide as user because people treat purples weird sometimes
rigid crescent
Like I've always said, have friends that have been banned 3 times blocked/muted by over 2k people and they're still trusted
Long time daily users will never rank down. Ever.
Unless it's manual or unless they purge Ike crazy
dark narwhal
Purple rank, can they be trusted 
languid beacon
Trusted is... an infinately wide rank. Up to infinity is still trusted
lunar shell
so that explains why some trusted are so annoying.
dark narwhal
Trusted means pretty much nothing
languid beacon
Trusted isn’t any harder to deranknits just rank value keeps going up and they get deeper and deeper into trusted
vocal shard
always keep an eye on those purple guys. Never know what they're up to
👀
umbral reef
#bringBackVeteranRank
vocal shard
Lol
lunar shell
🤔
rigid crescent
Legend bois
dark narwhal
Yo mamas soooo trusted she could crash tupper and still be trusted
vocal shard
There was this canny the other day asking for rank based instances. Just wow 
dark narwhal
Can i get an animated rank dlc pack
umbral reef
i found it funny. Gave off a 'the fuck?' vibe 👀
vocal shard
I don't remember. Didn't care enough
dark narwhal
How do i prestige?
umbral reef
Headpat a neko, get a VRC waifu, report a ERP'er because no ERP and sell your soul for FBT.
dark narwhal
If i presige can I raise my poly limit to 70001 i find it to be too low currently
stable pilot
ranks rarely matter. i've met way too many people purple and above who just use crashing animations / shaders so i just keep everything with the safety system to model / voice.
languid beacon
Yup my safety systems are model and voice only, except for friends, which get everything
dark narwhal
I only block animations. They have to upload a nuke avatar to crash me that way at least
novel elk
Animations and Particles off for me. It's sad, but even the highest rank isn't enough to make me think you know what you're doing with particles <_<
dark narwhal
Sad cause particles arent hard to tune down. People just dont care
Use the official particle limiter
vocal shard
^ yeah i still use the particle limiter
novel elk
Yeah, you're right - spending 30 minutes on YouTube understanding how particles work (or just looking closely at the particle output in Unity) would be enough to solve most problems. Not to mention - framerate aside - most particle effects are just... too much.
dark narwhal
I havent messed around enough to know how much it takes to start dropping frames much. Ive only made some effects in unity but not put on models
novel elk
Depends on a number of things - mostly what is being emitted, from my testing. I spent a good month or two fine tuning a Splatoon splattershot effect with a worldspace shader to get it to a point where it wouldn't cause dropped frames for VR users.
Like, a high poly model being emitted or things that cast light? Hella "expensive"
dark narwhal
About how many sub emitted particles?
I made a magic shot effect that has a bunch of sub emissions but not too many particles each
novel elk
Mmmm I'd have to double check but I made it so that at most, it has 40 active "ink shots" on the screen and 1 splatter each, so at most 60ish particles on screen after accounting for timing. The fact that it uses the decal shader is what makes it a bit intensive, but it's a cool effect and I try to use it sparingly just in case so I don't annoy anyone.
dark narwhal
I tried to make that once but failed
Was making a paintball gun
I might retry eventually
novel elk
I got some ideas from the guy who made the barfing wooper avatar that was going around
Decal shader is what makes it work tho
dark narwhal
Yeah i had one but it wasnt working correctly in game
Worked in unity
Might need a different version
I had the splatter in a way that it would be in a different position and color each time. Would have been neat
novel elk
Did you add a rigid body?
dark narwhal
Nope
novel elk
That's probably why
dark narwhal
Probably
novel elk
Rigid body is what references where the particles with a world space shader should be
So if it shoots and hits something it has a point of reference
novel elk
Also, at least in my case, it doesn't work all the time. Worlds with mesh colliders work, worlds with box colliders don't.
dark narwhal
Interesting
I tried to put a slash effect on a sword using the shader i guess i just needed the rigid bodies
sonic verge
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5597 users in VRChat currently
winter gale
ok
sick kraken
winged igloo
6000 is a lot of people! It may seem small relative to some other metrics, but just imagine trying to meet 6000 people individually haha
covert linden
Well our walkout had like 100-200 and it was a lot, I dont wanna be 1 on 1 with 6k people irl
well I guess thats not one on one but you get what I mean
languid beacon
So is anyone talking about this yet
Knuckles controllers officially renamed Valve Index Controllers
winged igloo
Yeeting this convo to #general-media
rough flax
No yeet :ree:
stray quartz
meager solstice
Yeah the leak for that came out on April 1st very coincidental @languid beacon
But than valve later confirmed all the leaked info
ember aurora
oh
vivid halo
how do i change my mic so i can use my voice changer?
vivid halo
i just want try it out
safe prism
who are you to limit someone's fun though
vivid halo
yeah
so how do i change my mic from default to voice mod?
purple, how do i get to windows settings?
purpleheart
how do i do that
can some one tell me how do change my mic step bu step
why
i want to change ma voice
copper oriole
hello im new
vagrant juniper
huh
modern sand
@nimble silo Please stop spamming everywhere
covert linden
<@&397642795457970181> This has to break some sort of rule right? Its making me extremely uncomfortable but im not sure
queen mango
They've been spamming everywhere..
stray quartz
yall need to calm down
stray quartz
np
mighty nest
dunno why I get anxiety in vrc compared to functioning irl. Should be the opposite e.e
ashen coral
I get social anxiety in both, but I got VRC to help fix that since I work from home and rarely get out much
urban jasper
I don't get out much either, but it's more due to my work schedule. I'm at work when most people aren't.
ashen coral
Same; actually working right now and here until 3:30 AM EST
queen mango
What time is it there right now?
ashen coral
11:18 PM EST
ashen coral
Western Australia then
queen mango
Philippines, HKST
ashen coral
Ah. I was close though :P
urban jasper
Yah, 11:20 EDT here
queen mango
Yep..
In that timezone, whenever I have time, I can meet up with friends from the EU, US, and Asia
urban jasper
I just got home from work
queen mango
EU for mornings, US East Coast and Asia for afternoons, and US West Coast and Asia in evenings
ashen coral
Kinda sucks working this shift and playing VRC because most of the people I meet in pubs before work seem to be mostly teenagers
I'm 27 and all of the adults seem to be working normal hours :P
urban jasper
If I try to get on before work, it's mostly people that don't speak English
ashen coral
That too
urban jasper
Seems to mostly be Japanese and Korean
ashen coral
Or Russians
urban jasper
Yeah, them too
queen mango
I do hear that some Japanese are good at English, some even try to understand English
Though vice versa, it seems we still have a lot to learn in Japanese
urban jasper
That's true to an extent, but I don't want to be That Guy, you know?
urban jasper
Japanese is a very hard language.
queen mango
Yeah.. so is English for non-native English speakers
urban jasper
Which is why I don't fault non-native speakers for not speaking it
nocturne vine
That's why I like latin
queen mango
Yeah.. it's pretty hard to keep up in that case
It's also why my PH buddies have a hard time understanding what I say
Usually, they say that they have 'nosebleeds' because of the way I speak
queen mango
The pain...
I'm probably a peculiar case here.. though I'm born in PH, I spoke and learned English first before Tagalog
It's to such an extent that I can be mistaken for an American
ashen coral
People confuse me for a Canadian because of the way I speak and how I sound
sly mango
is anyone else just constantly stuck at the loading screen right now? haven't touched the game in awhile, but still. Also yolla.
queen mango
@sly mango The game seems to load in fine for me
You made sure that your connection is strong?
sly mango
hm weird, maybe its my rift. My headset is being picky about downloading the most recent update. Thanks
So I'll just bum nere for now
here*
queen mango
Yeah.. you may wanna finish all those important updates first.
sly mango
trust me I wish, it's in a weird queue for the download, won't let me click on it heh. Anywho, what we on topic about?
ashen coral
English being hard
sly mango
heh know that feeling
I have trouble hearing, so when people speak to me with an accent, it really can get messy
vocal shard
VRChat broken? Can't load in.
sly mango
lol, maybe I'm not crazy
ashen coral
I have not logged in today, so I am unsure. Someone else had issues and they had to do an update. Desktop or VR?
blissful current
uhhhh I can't login either
ashen coral
I see 5.8k on Steam, so may be a login server issue
blissful current
nop I'm in already
sly mango
hm
vocal shard
I finally got back in but now there are friendslist and world update issues.
gleaming inlet
im having trouble too 😅
vocal shard
RIP Will.
summer fable
Hi everyone
urban jasper
I just got out, didn't have any issues.
ancient marsh
anyone tried ASW 2.0 yet?
polar jasper
Hello @summer fable
polar jasper
At work 😩 just want the day to end so I can get started on the weekend 😊
What about you? @summer fable
summer fable
Just got home from work and am working on some more Naruko avatars and stuff for the leaf village world ^_^
@polar jasper
polar jasper
That was public right? Got to check it out at some point
summer fable
Yupyup
There’s a teleport at spawn by the mirror that takes you to a portal to the world I keep my public avatars in
I think almost all of them are full body compatible
polar jasper
Nice 👌 Won’t be able to test FBT until my leg is healed, so will have to do that later ^^
vocal shard
...
void aspen
I got a question for people who know how to create a URL tabs for a "VRC_Sync_Video_Player" ! 😄
wild wadi
faint leaf
Any1 know where to get avatars made by Auzlex
vocal shard
how to download VR chat?
floral aspen
through steam or the oculus store
ruby needle
As this is a game specific discord, and channel, please keep it VRChat related :)
heavy dawn
The Spirited Away train world seems to be where the party's at these days.
That Dead Space world was prettty fun though 😄
... reminds me of when I was making levels for Little Big Planet and actually putting a lot of effort into unique worlds that would get a handful of views, but worlds like "Super Mario Music" or something like that gets millions. 😂
woven steppe
it's an RPG with many 4th wall breaks
heavy dawn
Many wall breaks in general if your camera is set too far forward 🤣
woven steppe
Then you actually walk through a wall...
covert linden
Speaking of walls I jumped off the cliff in vrc in vr for the first time
and it was terrifying
queen mango
@woven steppe Ach. It's been a while
desert stratus
you fall off of 500m cliffs so many times in vrc that you get used to it
brings me ptsd of the one world where you could build forts, and instead we just built really high towers
somethin im never getting used to tho are those funland rides
i have never gotten motion sick in vr before until i stepped onto those
covert linden
The rollercoasters actually dont make me sick at allll
glass goblet
We need more thicc avatars
woven steppe
it is @queen mango
inner cape
this 🅱 with his standard shader which isn't standard, but a blender render
hallo
broken cobalt
i need help every time i launch vrchat i stuck at login loading screen
covert linden
Try restarting your router
broken cobalt
did that does not work
ruby needle
covert linden
^
woven steppe
I also use 2 sided standard shader on my actual VRC avatar too... but I have a realtoon version if someone complains hard enough...
inner cape
lmao
covert linden
I use a random shader my boyfriend sent me
woven steppe
random shader...
inner cape
I've been acused of using standard too cause of my smooth shadow but mine isn't as bad as yours
covert linden
im not sure what it is, its a secret
inner cape
and bad I mean as strong, not bad bad
woven steppe
If even you don't know what shader it is then It's a very good secret.
inner cape
lmao
covert linden
It is
inner cape
I bet it's cubed
🤢
or better yet poyomi
actually nvm, poyomi did improve lately from what I heard
rough pulsar
I mean, the majority of vrc avatars use just a few shaders.
north ridge
Poi >~>
woven steppe
Dang... I really need to get a new pfp... I got new hair now...
covert linden
I only use one shader, but its not cubed
inner cape
make it then
north ridge
...
inner cape
nieko if you don't delete the ! with a giant gap I'll smack you
rough pulsar
Usually three for me. Standard and two of my own for hair and skin.
covert linden
It just looks like that so its not the cubed one, I have that one too but I dont use it
rough pulsar
Does it react to light in any way?
rough pulsar
PRobably just some unlit shader then.
covert linden
Yeah maybe so
tacit plank
Any toon shader which accepts normal maps? And emission I guess
vocal shard
Isnt the point of toon shaders to not have depth?
dark narwhal
Did someone accuse me of sending cubed
tacit plank
Well, I guess. I just the default one
woven steppe
Yep... for some reason people seem to like not having depth...
rough pulsar
I don't use any toon shaders and you can take my normal maps from my cold dead hands
safe prism
n y a
woven steppe
Not if you die in a fire... your hands won't be cold...
dark narwhal
real toon shader has normal maps
safe prism
the only good toon shader
and we can't have it because it requires current unity and SRP
dark narwhal
thats a nice pair of shaders shes got
cerulean flame
mighty nest
Are there any competitive aspects of vrc? Or is the game 100% social
covert linden
the game levels where you gotta fight your friends
rough pulsar
VRC itself is 100% social. There's competitive game worlds within it though.
woven steppe
It's pretty much a social platform where you can do some other stuff other than socializing...
queen mango
Deathrun, Box Avoid Game, Steel N' Gold, CTF to name a few.. oh, there's Murder, and Werewolf
covert linden
I hate the box avoid game with a passion
ruby burrow
Compete to be the best most technically knowledgeable shader/particle/avatar-mechanics wizard.
Compete to have the coolest world of a given theme.
mighty nest
Thats more like showcasing though. Somewhat similar to cooking and what not. Really objective.
ruby burrow
Compete to be the biggest streamer or something?
woven steppe
shoot down all the targets in the VRC home before they hit the top of their trajectory...
ruby burrow
Yeah. Serious answer, no, there's no truly competitive aspect to VR-Chat itself.
queen mango
@mighty nest I heard there was some bakery map or something.. but I haven't taken the chance to visit that.
covert linden
A BAKERY MAP omg that sounds amazing..
mighty nest
Maybe I'll have to explore some of the game worlds more. I've been joining random worlds and afking in a corner while I do other stuff to gain the ability to upload avatars
ruby burrow
There's a bunch of game worlds, though any genuine competitive aspects are hamstrung by the limitations of the game and also highly varied regional latency.
mighty nest
Yeah thats what I expected.
rough pulsar
Actually playing with people in game worlds is probably gonna help you get upload rights faster than just AFKing
ruby burrow
So for the most part its more a "have some laughs with friends" light bit of competition, rather than anything serious.
mighty nest
I'm just not used to joining a world with a purpose to socialize lol
covert linden
my friends take a game of murder seriously
queen mango
covert linden
because I lock them all in rooms and they get mad
mighty nest
Sounds like a party game
ruby burrow
For me there is a bit of genuine light competition to learn Unity avatar tricks faster than my friends, so we can share and show off what we've learned.
But again, that's obviously a different sort of thing.
And we all help each other along too, so I guess it's not real competition anyway.
woven steppe
Just find something entertaining to do
mighty nest
I think that's what I'm aiming to do. Making some cool effect avatars as a point of discussion
I'm boring otherwise so thats why I'm silent in the game cx
ruby burrow
Ditch the modded client and find new friends.
woven steppe
first part is easy... the second part is harder
rigid crescent
Lol they definitely pay attention to who hangs with who
Just don't use the client forehead
ruby burrow
There are groups that will name and shame you on a list just for having admitted to using one.
And I wouldn't want to share an instance with anyone using one either.
In that case you probably got mistaken for one of your friends when someone reported you.
modest epoch
If you hang out with the wrong crowd long enough, you are part of the wrong crowd. I'd be very interested in seeing the other sides of the story beyond "I'm wholesome".
covert linden
^
rigid crescent
Then you can email moderation to look into it if you want
pine dust
hi
modest epoch
Hey there
tacit plank
Yo
I don't want to be around people with modded clients for the most part. In general, modded clients can be good assets in some video games (Good for moderating in Minecraft, for example) but VRChat clients don't seem to have much use besides being a dick to others
Why do you hang around assholes, anyways? If you're as "wholesome" as you say then you can definitely find better groups
woven steppe
Are you sure those are even clients? because you can fly fine with the regular normal VRC
primal oak
Yes, plenty of avatars have the ability to fly
Generally modded clients don't come with just flying.
Just pick up an avatar that can fly or make it fly yourself with colliders in unity.
That way it's risk free.
mighty nest
Does vrc have any anti-cheat in place?
primal oak
Modded clients can modify the game in a way that gives you too much power, e.g. you can make other people crash or force shut down their internet if you're that kind of jerk
mighty nest
I heard flying and stuff like that can be done with trainers
umbral reef
@mighty nest It does have a file check in place if i recall what is really just like any anti-cheat.
It often still claps people keep in mind-
Its really dumb to use a modded client
primal oak
It's most prominent in VRChat though.
covert linden
Theres no excuse to using a forbidden modded client
primal oak
@covert linden In fact there is no excuse to using any modded client according to VRChat TOS.
umbral reef
@thin current Also its not-
The rules say dont edit the code, they edited the code and get the punishment for that.
They wont ask every person who edits it 'Ow did you just do X and Y?'
covert linden
u just repeated what I said and added TOS to it
woven steppe
One cheat VRChat actually needs is aimbot... so you can point at your menu buttons if you're in a situation where everything is very jittery
primal oak
I'm just going to rest my case here, you defend your friends that use modded clients however you want, just don't get banned yourself while trying to make some kind of point here. People shouldn't lay their fingers on modded clients. This is my opinion, I'm out of here.
umbral reef
Use panic mode then @woven steppe
woven steppe
panic mode doesn't help when you end up sitting on some weird bugged chair that makes you constantly shake and you can't walk out of it... and the only way to get out is to hit a respawn
So far the only way I got out of those was to end process VRC and get back in
rigid crescent
Whatever you wanna call it, it's covered as against the rules in the tos. Just don't do it, e z clap.
languid beacon
Pet peeve. Vrchat is not open source. The SDK mostly is, but the client and server are not.
The correct technical term is vrchat is player moderated
Open source is something else 😄
covert linden
you deserved the ban
languid beacon
It is not, where are you getting that info @thin current
tidal aspen
Mod client is against TOS even if it’s something “innocent”
woven steppe
His friends were the ones using the clients
tidal aspen
If you break into someone’s home but not steal anything it’s still illegal
worthy oracle
I remember being in a box hearing about someone with a client that would identify people that blocked, etc plus he had a crasher and the ability to auto kick mods from joining a server + ability to ban someone
woven steppe
Someone probably pointed at your group's general direction and reported everyone in their Field of Vision lol
worthy oracle
But idk how that works
tidal aspen
if you got falsely banned just email VRchat
languid beacon
VRChat is not open source. If you have the client source code you have it illegitimately.
tidal aspen
if vrc was open source there’d be no reason for them to obfuscate code
languid beacon
If you share accounts for things like uploading content, your accounts are linked. If one gets banned, the rest will too. So, don’t share passwords, dev will consider you alternate accounts and I’m not sure they will revert anything done for that reason but you can always try.
woven steppe
share accounts for uploading content? how does that work?
languid beacon
"I don't know anything about Unity, here's my username and password, please upload this avatar for me to my account"
Congrats they logged into the SDK as you now you're linked to their IP
woven steppe
How does that link one account to another tho?
covert linden
I had someone do that for me eekk
languid beacon
Because when VRC bans you they may chose to also ban other accounts that have been associated with the same IP
woven steppe
oh it's an IP based ban
languid beacon
it's account based, but using IP histories to snag alterante accounts as well
modest epoch
@covert linden The police are on their way
rigid crescent
That doesn't happen often but it can yes.
languid beacon
But yes there have been multiple people banned on brand new accounts for logging in on the IP of a recent ban. Reason for ban comes in as "Ban Evasion"
covert linden
mistakes were made
I wish I could "Clear ips" on my account because thats something I did when I was new :C
velvet quarry
Seeing as he just went full stupid, I figure he may have been lying a bit about his ban.
languid beacon
I wouldn't worry about it too much, just avoid sharing your login info, (well, ToS says don't do it at all) but if it's a real life friend I wouldn't worry to much but also don't do it because i have to say don't do it
modest epoch
Did he get bopped
I missed it
covert linden
I dont share it anymore
languid beacon
I'm sure the dev team uses common sense
two people playing at the same time are probably not alts
covert linden
hopefully his vrc acc stays banned
or yknow like this account hasnt been used by this ip in like 5 months, but the acc is still active, both are, two different Ips
languid beacon
Not permenent. Just a temp ban of 4 years.
rigid crescent
It's pretty hard to get perma'd even though it shouldn't be in some cases. Even Crashers are getting second, third, etc chances.
languid beacon
It sounds so much worse
woven steppe
Ah multiple people on the same account... got friends and friends of friends who do that.
rigid crescent
Not as common as I'd like them to be sadly.
languid beacon
Seriously I don't know why but Permban vs Temp Ban of 4 years, the temp ban sounds so much worse even though it's technically a smaller punishment
winged igloo
4 year ban is a perma ban, there is no way to ban permanently currently I think
languid beacon
That cold sweat when you remember you left your headset facing an open window that will 100% burn the screen in the evening but you get home in time before the sun is there
woven stone
damn missed the person using a modded client
would have been a nice post on our list
:D:D:D:D
vocal shard
Yo anyone using wireless for the Vive - if so, what's it like for dancing over wired?
heavy dawn
The wire is so long, I just keep how many times I've turned around in mind at all times and kind-of undo it.
torn breach
hii
velvet quarry
The wireless has always been a bit unstable in my experience, tends to experience overheat from the prolonged VRChat sessions that one tends to do.
Haven't tried it for "dancing" specifically, but it's been relatively fun for fullbody in general while it works, it's quite liberating.
torn breach
im new to vr chat i just found on the discord tab there discovery
velvet quarry
The overheat is just a theory, but it does get ridiculously warm at all times, and in my experience will randomly power cycle after a few hours.
I have a Vive Pro personally, so it might be pushing it a little further then it's expecting.
torn breach
where i get vrchat?
ruby needle
Steam or Oculus Store
torn breach
ok
velvet quarry
VRChat is available either from the Steam store page, or Oculus store if you own an Oculus Rift
torn breach
i gotta download steam?
worthy haven
Yes
torn breach
oh ok
vocal shard
Might have to dig a bit deeper into it then as I can't be paying for semi-usable.
torn breach
is it free?
worthy haven
Yeah vr chat and steam are free
torn breach
lol
worthy haven
That’s true
velvet quarry
@vocal shard I do know some who don't experience such issues, but due to the amount of people I know including myself who does, It's definitively something to keep in mind.
neon flume
One of my friends uses the vive pro and wireless as well and definitely swears by it. I think they've spent a few hundred hours in game with it by now. Hasn't mentioned any issues with overheating though it does get quite warm.
vocal shard
Afro if you don't mind me asking, what kind of climate/humidity you living in?
torn breach
i cant have the dancing thing on desktop though 😂
vocal shard
I'm from the UK so varies in temp/always relatively humid. Dancing would be enough to get fog on the inside of the display after a while
velvet quarry
I live in Norway by the shore, It's relatively cold outside for most of the time, but my room does get quite warm while in VR due to the amount of machinery running most of the time.
I do try running the AC to combat it, but the room does usually get a bit warm, probably doesn't help.
vocal shard
Took to using silicates after sessions
Gotcha. Damn, that would be a more optimal country for it too but I guess you're right, output from the kit is just nuts
velvet quarry
I may give the wireless a proper go with the AC running more heavily to really confirm if its an overheat issue or not, I know some who have used USB fans to cool the wireless, as it has no fan of its own.
vocal shard
Early days ey.
heavy dawn
Speaking of overheating. I have the Vive cable box 2-sided foam taped to the top of my computer case and it seems to run a little warm. Sometimes if I come back to use it I have to unplug and replug everything as it seems it'll crash every once in a while.
vocal shard
Man I used to do the exact same thing, until I tugged the cables out frequently
vocal shard
Ended up putting it on the floor behind a flap of cardboard on a shoe box so it was "in place" but had some room to get pulled and slide back into place
modest epoch
@worthy haven You can add extra sensors to your feet and waist to essentially completely control your avatar, instead of just hands/head
vocal shard
I've done it with vive and 3 vive trackers
worthy haven
Vive or oculus
vocal shard
Specifically, one on the top of each shoe and one on a belt
heavy dawn
@vocal shard I don't have that problem as the newer version of the first gen Vive comes with a really long cord. Enough to spin around like 5 or 6 times.
My play room is the minimum room scale room though.
neon flume
It's also possible to use a rift and vive trackers but it effectively involves having both systems setup and running at the same time, plus a little bit of extra complexity with space calibration to sync them both up.
vocal shard
When did that version come around?
heavy dawn
Not sure but the Vive cord is fully replaceable for about $60 on Amazon so 🤷
vocal shard
Don't think it was cord length that was primarily the issue - just the snap / shockwave down the cable during very sudden dynamic movements. My cable is about 5 meters at a guess
heavy dawn
5M is hella long, yeah.
vocal shard
I've ripped 2 pairs of shorts
And realized that the additional airflow is actually a perk
worthy haven
I’ll probably get a vive and those motion trackers for it then
vocal shard
jester where are you from
worthy haven
I’m from America
vocal shard
Damn, was gonna say I'll sell you my full kit so I can upgrade
worthy haven
New Hampshire specifically
vocal shard
But I ain't messing with overseas shipping
neon flume
If you're willing to wait it might be a nice idea to see what the Valve Index is like before deciding to buy anything. Details should come out around May afaik.
vocal shard
^
heavy dawn
Ripped shorts... from wide movements from dancing?
vocal shard
Drops
worthy haven
In a few weeks I’m getting a new pc so I was hoping to get a vr setup that’s why I’m asking is all
vocal shard
If you're interested in full body
neon flume
The Index uses steam vr lighthouse tracking like the vive so the vive trackers will work with it as well. You'd also have the benefit of the new knuckles/valve index controllers which look like a significant step up from the Vive wands. I don't know anything about pricing yet but that's less than a month away at this point.
vocal shard
There's these belt-like attachments with a screw fixture on for the trackers, highly recommend.
This will sound odd but dancing trainers with a gap in the middle of the foot are perfect for wrapping them around
heavy dawn
I wonder how much the index controller would cost alone? Would it work independantly?
vocal shard
👊 ❤
heavy dawn
Because I'm happy enough with the original Vive HMD but nicer controllers for hand movements would be cooll.
Doing gestures with the circles is touchy.
modest epoch
@worthy haven I cannot recommend this strongly enough along with everyone else here, but definitely wait to see the Valve Index before making a decision
vocal shard
It feels superficial using the circle for real
neon flume
The index controllers should be compatible given that the Knuckles dev kits all worked with the vive before. This is unconfirmed of course but I believe there were some leaks suggesting they'd be for sale separately as well as bundled with the headset, though again that's totally unconfirmed.
modest epoch
You can do FBT with an Oculus, but you will have to buy Vive lightstations and trackers alongside the Oculus so rest in peace to ever having a free USB port again
worthy haven
I’ll definitely wait they sound a lot more comfortable as you’ve said
heavy dawn
I think the controllers separate are usually pretty expensive anyway.
neon flume
There's also vague hype and rumors about the headset being a step up from the current gen vive and rift (higher fov, higher res display, modular attachment?) which I certainly hope is true, but again nothing really confirmed about that yet. Just have to wait until May to find out more.
vocal shard
It's bittersweet really though
Never have I had a piece of kit that cost that much that I was so willing to replace as soon as the next upgrade came along
ruby needle
i think 130° FOV was leaked a while ago (before the index was known to be the index)
neon flume
Oh yeah believe me, I just bought a used vive a month ago. I'm feeling pretty torn about that decision. I don't regret it, but I certainly felt a little silly when I opened up the steam page for the index 😅
unique mauve
vocal shard
Eeeexactly
I hope there's some people wanting to buy vanilla stuff if index is good put it that way
worthy haven
That link does not work for me
heavy dawn
Depends on the price. When Index is announced I wouldn't count on getting your money back.
Probably sell for half.
ruby needle
@unique mauve KinectToVR is free to use. :)
heavy dawn
Then again it could be like apple stuff and retain its value 😄
I paid like $700 for the Vive at Christmas. I am not upgrading any time soon.
CAD
When I logged into Amazon the prices for each item I bought were almost the same so I guess the Vive hasn't gone down in price at all.
neon flume
Oh yeah you can get neat full body with a Kinect too but as someone who used it for four months, it's a world of difference between that and using actual trackers. I see it more as a gateway to sitting on objects (if you have the kinect mounted high enough) and posing your legs. It's not really fast enough for dancing and the latency is very immersion breaking if that's a factor for you. Also no hip rotation so you end up looking pretty stiff anyways.
winged coral
Hey gang! Quick question. Does anybod have a woes/pains with vive trackers. I just kinda wanna vent lol. I cant get the 3rd tracker to pair for the life of me 😭
vocal shard
I had the perfect article about it bookmarked, just checked it and the post has been deleted x___x
Here's a tip though - you using a USB splitter?
winged coral
Not using a splitter. Got a 5 port usb 3.0 hub
vocal shard
If so, you can only run 2 of the tracker usb dongles through it before the signal gets confused - use one of your PC's USB ports in tandem with a splitter to get around this.
Right, consider getting a splitter or using one on the back of the machine
You can't be running 2+ from the same USB bay
winged coral
Ah okay! So 2 in the hub one in the back. I did not know that at all. THANK YOU.
vocal shard
Mate it's a minefield.
neon flume
Yeah it varies from hub to hub, mine actually work fine all on a single hub but other people with the exact same one have had issues 🤷
heavy dawn
If it's a PC, getting a PCI-E USB3 card is a good bet.
They're like < $10
Probably depends on how many PCI-E lanes the card uses how high the bandwidth is.
The tracking issues I get with the Vive were mostly due to reflections. I have a glass case in my room where I play and the wall is all windows with a view to the sun.
winged coral
Thanks guys! I will use all this knowledge for good lol. I really love the 3d tracking aspect of this and its what sold me on even getting a vive. Once i have it functional it will be super fun!
vocal shard
You're gonna love it dude enjoy
heavy dawn
After putting UV/IR filtering window clings on my windows, it actually made a big difference to tracking> So did putting the lighthouses on the roof facing down.
vocal shard
Naaaah, I think encouraging and helping people to set their kit up and make better choices is directly correlated to the general interest of VRchat dude 😍
Let's See how fast I can say "Me Tupper you one month"
Me Vrpill Me Cool
winged coral
Im still working on troubleshooting my legs snapping together to one foot (mermaid life is no fun) thats why im re-pairing them to begin with lol I thought they were like mispared or something. Ive also been told to keep the dongles far apart. I was able to get it working for 30 minutes at least and it was a blast lol
before knowing all that above informatoin
so im hoping testing tonight will actually go kinda smooth
neon flume
Be sure to test with the Y/X bot avatars since those are probably the best/most consistent for fbt that everyone has access to. I know there's a strange issue where one of the trackers isn't picked up by vrchat despite showing in steam vr. The only workaround I've found for that is to just restart the tracker a few times until it eventually shows up in game as a white sphere.
winged coral
Double thank you! The weird thing for me is it would show that I had all 3 white balls but after undoing the Tpose it would all just snap to the left leg. So thats why i was even more confused. Like it would have made sense if the ball was missing but it was there
So thats where im hoping/thinking it was a interference thing
and re-pairing and spreading out the dongles will help
worthy haven
I have a vr chat related question
covert linden
Ask it
worthy haven
When I hover over someone sometimes they get the glow where if I left click them I get interact options and some people don’t have that why is that
The glow that is
The people that don’t have the aura I can’t interact with
covert linden
No hitbox
glass goblet
I wonder how people make avatars and worlds
velvet quarry
A whole lot of Unity
subtle prawn
Uh, this is a latest video I could find to get started with avatars at least, with links to the programs and SDK in description @glass goblet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBZu_wNzERw
winged coral
Low key though im not sure how people end up "sitting" and laying down in VRchat with FBT. I tried while testing and uhhh my avatar just went into himself. Didnt actually sit/laydown. Maybe I dont have enough trackers 😋 but i swore 3 was enough 🤔
worthy haven
Some avatars aren’t made for full body
So they break when you lay down for example
Or in my case I can’t find any that can sit in a chair without going inside of it
winged coral
Maybe x/y can?
heavy dawn
Is there an article on how to fix sitting? I guess you might need a custom animation?
Most of my models are shorter so they just sit inside chairs.
winged coral
I just assume you brute froce everything via openvr/the height menu
tranquil perch
yeah, at the moment a custom animation is needed ot sit properly since it uses the sit animation for the sit height instead of snapping to the hip
neon flume
Oh yeah when I look like I'm sitting in fbt I'm actually quite literally sitting in real life. I never use chairs in game objects, I just position my playspace so it looks like I'm seated on the chair 🤷
winged coral
I assume your referring to the X Y positions in openvr?
Sorry i saw an opportunity to learn lol
neon flume
Oh yeah I use advanced openvr settings and somewhere in the menu there's an option to enable playspace movement by tapping/double tapping a button on the controller. I don't quite recall where it is in there but it's fairly useful if you have fbt. Sorry for being a bit vague, I set up the binding a little while ago and can't recall where to find that option without opening up vr myself.
winged coral
Also to those that stream vr chat do you capture the game or the headset mirror? I ask because when doing all those adjustments to make sure I am fully immersed the game window just looks...uh..bad. and wonky.(camera may be super short or tall in the ceiling) while the headset mirror is what im actually seeing 😃 So i just assume that is how everyone does it.
Thank you @neon flume gonna look that up now!
neon flume
I'm not sure how others do it but OBS has a plugin to capture the steam vr output directly. It's called Open VR Input plugin and it's quite handy with some useful options. No need to run the headset mirror with that installed.
heavy dawn
hehe someone put their playspace up in the luggage rack of the Spirited Away train whein I was playing
Just napping in the luggage rack.
The performance with the OpenVR plugin is MUCH better. I used to get all kinds of suttering with captures. Now it's smooth.
winged coral
Noob question. Uh which open vr plugin @heavy dawn ? Ive seen like 3 different githubs lol I may be using an outdated one to even begin with
heavy dawn
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/openvr-input-plugin.534/ AFAIK it's this one. It was suggested to me by TielQt who... apparently does support for them or has some kind of idea what's going on.
I can't verify it's the right one as I'm not at home. 😄
winged coral
Perfect! Thanks! You guys are awesome! Sorry for asking so many things lol
prisma cosmos
Ayy
heavy dawn
Your icon is cute and you should feel cute.
craggy tapir
anyone want a sub lol
safe prism
like from subway? yes please!
modern sand
#general-media pls
craggy tapir
haha no from twitch lmao
ashen coral
I was thinking of something completely different from both of you lol
winged coral
Okay I know this makes no sense but...I wonder if there is a way to change the position of trackers? Like if you have the whiteball infront of you but want to adjust it so its inside of you 🤔 you cant obviously do that IRL (i mean you could but dont eat your tracker) but i wonder if there was something that could force that
safe prism
openvr input emulator can offset any tracked device
winged coral
Really? 😮 what is this magic? I didn't see that option in the openvr advanced settings. Or is that a different thing entirely?
safe prism
openvr is a platform, not a single software
olive sable
uh is invite system still broken?
winged coral
Ah okay. I guess that makes sense considering all the OpenVR: advanced settings, input emulation, etc. I thought they were all different programs of a certain branch so you had to choose one over another thanks for the clarification on that
rough pulsar
OpenVR is the API of which SteamVR is an implementation of.
Bear in mind that input emulator is pretty much unmaintained and is only just hanging on in terms of working at all.
neon flume
There are a bunch of OpenVR Advanced Settings forks though and afaik the first one to show up on google is still one of the older and unmaintained ones. The dev group named OpenVR-Advanced-Settings maintains their own fork which is much more recent.
winged coral
I retract that question because I found the answer and I wish to share it with you all https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=711411281
vocal shard
Hey so lately my friends having been receiving invite request from me
Neither have I received there request
gaunt pine
some people man wow..... they logged out the whole lobby i was in cuz i blocked them for sexually harassing me
modest epoch
@vocal shard Upvote this bug tracker https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/invite-request-notifications-do-not-show-up
vocal shard
vrchat keeps kicking me n other people out of the worlds
languid compass
anyone know where everyone gets there japanese building assets?
still grove
whats the game called to get this?
gilded needle
hi
still grove
nvm
gilded needle
?
latent crest
@ashen pilot
stark cairn
i need help i tried evrething i watched videos to fix it and asked peaple so this is the last resort
winged igloo
What's the issue?
stark cairn
it terend in to a big thing of polegons thta takes over a world pls help
sonic cove
vrchat general
urban jasper
Apparently VRChat is having one of its moods again.
stark cairn
ahhh my first avatar is fucked
rustic berry
Unfortunately, we all have to go through the bad avatar models
stark cairn
dose it look like this
rustic berry
What is it supposed to be?
stark cairn
gipsy avenger Frome pacific rim uprising
fast iron
eyy gois
rustic berry
It seems that probably the mesh is not properly weighted to the bones. But it could be something else
winged coral
So it only took 2 hours of configuration, base station moving, and tears but i finally got FBT tracking to work. I even think i figured out my fish leg problem! But i was wondering if anyone else had this issue? Basically I cant tell if the mermaid thing happened because my feet are to close together when in tpose, feet are to far apart in tpose, or if its because my body was not aligned with the tpose. So I was wondering if i was alone in that or which one might be the "one" 😃
vocal shard
can someone dm me to help me with my avatar am new too it
modern sand
Can anyone with avatar issues use #avatars-2-general and other avatar related channels ? Helps keeping things clean and archived
cunning osprey
I need help with my favorites menu
cinder ibex
Any of you guys know of a good free voice changing software
queen mango
There's VoiceMod, but the quality of the voices there are not that great, to be honest.
cinder ibex
Yeah i saw that. Im looking for something that will be more human like. Even if i gotta pay for it
safe prism
voice changers pretty consistently suck
cinder ibex
Dang i woulda thought by now there would be some decent ones out there
open ginkgo
look
cinder ibex
safe prism
why not a non-denominational house of spirituality
vocal shard
hoii
queen mango
@grizzled glacier #vrchat-livestreams please
sterile glen
i keep meeting crashers avatar oof
bitter viper
I keep shaders off for everyone unless they're friends. You wont get crashed then.
hollow thicket
hey
solid dust
What’s good
primal oak
It's less the shaders that make you crash and more the particles and custom animations since these are what makes Unity render too much.
eternal parrot
oWo
primal oak
Oh, and some jerks can crash you even with their avatar hidden. These are using modded clients.
ruby needle
neon flume
@winged coral afaik the feet bind to whatever tracker is closest to them so if by chance both of your feet are closer to one of the trackers then you'll end up in the mermaid pose. That typically happens to me when I lose tracking on one tracker as I'm T-posing for full body. Best way to avoid it imo is to set myself up before the avatar even loads in so I don't have to adjust or move while it's T posed.
vale wigeon
can someone help me
ruby needle
Not if you dont say what your question/problem is.
inner cape
you should dm fpaul 👍
vale wigeon
okay?
inner cape
what are you gonna do
queen mango
vale wigeon
im trying to upload a avatar to vrchat and i cant upload it because i watching a video how to upload and he has options like show build control panel which i dont because mine only has Clear Cache and PlayerPrefs