#vrchat-general-2

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covert linden
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I live under a rock

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I dunno who really anyone is

cyan pond
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his mom is like 80 and hot

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not kidding, lol

heavy dawn
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Just funny how you worded it. Made it sound like you don't know that's his name.

vocal shard
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Owner of Tesla. And many other companies

heavy dawn
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That's his villain name. His real name is Steve.

cyan pond
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Maye Musk, ah nvm she's 70

ruby burrow
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I'm just confused why you'd need to buy anyone else a PC to view your world.

cyan pond
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Squishy, the people I want to join the world don't have the financial means for VR hardware

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I'll have to get a company to invest

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and if it's $200 x 1M units there's no way it's gonna happen

covert linden
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I know his name just not who he is

cyan pond
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Elon to the rescue

ruby burrow
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A million people? ._.

cyan pond
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well, ok maybe that's not realistic but let's say thousands

ruby burrow
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Who are these people even?

vocal shard
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...

cyan pond
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The first rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club

ruby burrow
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@_@

cyan pond
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haha, they're just random people

ruby burrow
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I'm confused. T-T

cyan pond
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not sure why it's pretty simple

vocal shard
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Random thousands of people who need to see your room? What?

cyan pond
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yes

umbral reef
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Why would they even want that

cyan pond
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oh trust me they'll want it

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like fat kids love cake

ruby burrow
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I've been wondering why they'd want or need to see your room, but you've sold me on visiting it at least. Am stuck wondering what mysteries it must surely contain.

opaque hawk
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Will they though 🤔

umbral reef
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I dont trust you though as i dont know why...

covert linden
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I think theyll want the free pc more

ruby burrow
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But I mean, you are aware that there's already millions of registered users on VR-Chat right?

heavy dawn
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is skinny and wants cake

steep laurel
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Fellas.

cyan pond
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yes, those users aren't the target audience

ruby burrow
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Plenty of potential visitors that you don't need to buy headsets for.

steep laurel
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Dropping the Oculus.

covert linden
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Dont drop it itll break

steep laurel
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I just bought a Vive with fullbody.

opaque hawk
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👏 congrats

ruby burrow
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It's not like museums buy their visitors cars to get to the museum with.

umbral reef
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But cant you just use a 3d vieuwing app then
Get your world in there and tell people to use there phones to watch the stuff AR style?

heavy dawn
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My body is not full. Give me cake! 🍰

ruby burrow
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Enjoy your legs Wolf. 🙂

steep laurel
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Heres the thing.

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I don't get it, how people can't move their feet.

cyan pond
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Kairos, what phones?

steep laurel
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Just move your feet bro.

ruby burrow
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Also yeah, I was about to say there are platforms other than VR Chat you can host this stuff.

steep laurel
umbral reef
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Any modern phone?

covert linden
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I have no need to move my feet

cyan pond
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Oh i see you mean iphone etc.

ruby burrow
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Can even upload it to the Steam workshop to be viewable within Steam VR with no other game or app.

covert linden
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Samsung too

opaque hawk
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If you really want people to see it just make it it’s own unity game and give it away on x y and z platform

ruby burrow
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No, any phone. Not just iphone.

heavy dawn
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I find I can make the character dance by shimmying side to side enough hehe. I would love to dance with FBT though.

umbral reef
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Not even directly... Just any phone that is strong enough 🤷
Plenty fit that list.

covert linden
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Modern doesnt = iphone only

cyan pond
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It's doable that way but I'm wondering if it'll have the same effect

opaque hawk
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What effect are you looking for?

covert linden
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Your only other option is buying people pcs so uh

heavy dawn
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@cyan pond I mean, I've worked for a company who basically focused on AR and VR/AR games esclusively and you get grants fromt he government for that stuff.

umbral reef
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Why would it not?
Only difference would (ignoring all the positives of not having a full Vr pc and ect). Is that you dont have any hands...

cyan pond
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It's not a game, just don't want to say yet what exactly it is

opaque hawk
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Why not?

cyan pond
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maybe its a million dollar idea, shrug

ruby burrow
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I originally assumed he was just talking about friends and family, so I was going to say just use a WMR and visit them with the headset.

opaque hawk
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Ideas are cheap

ruby burrow
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But I'm not sure what this is now.

umbral reef
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A million dollar idea is worth nothing Fyi--

cyan pond
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just haven't figured out how to implement

vocal shard
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@worthy oracle do you know where it is? or the world name? Ive looked up Nek0s and stuff and it doesnt appear? or should i screach by username? If you have vr you can add me and show me (if you want, dont have to<3) Im yumimooni

umbral reef
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A million dollar project manager is though-

vocal shard
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I'm being to wonder if this is even something that should be hosted in vrchat....

covert linden
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If you need to buy pcs for people then irs not that great of an idea

ruby burrow
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There's already thousands of 3D scanned VR locations people can visit. Famous buildings and landmarks.

heavy dawn
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^ Yeah Sketchfab is full of them

queen mango
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I think I'm out of the loop here. What's the discussion?

covert linden
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This dude wants to buy people pcs

cyan pond
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Right I was trying to avoid buying PC's

opaque hawk
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Lol @ruby burrow I can “drive” my work commute in vr

umbral reef
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Aek wants to 3d scan him room
Throw it into VRC and show it to a small specific group of people...

cyan pond
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small = thousands or hundreds of thousands

covert linden
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OH guys I figured out his idea

cyan pond
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there will be huge demand

covert linden
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He wants to rp house with peole

worthy oracle
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@vocal shard added you :b

steep laurel
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Build your own PC.

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D o n o t b u y y y y y

vocal shard
steep laurel
covert linden
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@cyan pond you realize vrc servers cant hold that many right? In one tiny room?

cyan pond
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whats the max?

opaque hawk
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80 people

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In one room

heavy dawn
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error "The endpoint you're looking for is not implemented by our system." status_code 501

cyan pond
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80?!?!?!

ruby burrow
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Don't worry Elire, it's all civil. Although we're thoroughly confused.

queen mango
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@vocal shard I see nothing

covert linden
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Bro your pc would crash with like 100 there

umbral reef
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@cyan pond A thousand people is not in any way at all a lot. Its extremely small for a product. Thats like testing scale...

opaque hawk
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Yeah at the same time without making a new instance

queen mango
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Alright, then..

cyan pond
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Maybe I should reach out to the VRC team and discuss w/ them

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could be some way to expand the server footprint

ruby burrow
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80 would be an exceptional number of people in one place for this game.

umbral reef
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But this is more going into how to ruin a project/company. What is a project and product then Vrchat so if you want to actually talk about it we can do it in #general-media

cyan pond
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scale up?

covert linden
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They wont open it up so you can have 10000 in a room because your pc cannot handle it @cyan pond

ruby burrow
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It's rare to see more than 30. Beyond there the game tends to grind to a halt, unless you turn avatars off.

covert linden
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The limits are there so your system can breathe

cyan pond
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meaning, my video card can't handle it?

opaque hawk
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I’ve been in a room with close to that max. It is a nightmare

umbral reef
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Your everything cant handle it

covert linden
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I have to shower but this convo is so good..

queen mango
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It's more to do with your CPU.

cyan pond
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It's actually helping a lot...

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I've got to figure out how to run this damn thing on IBM Watson

covert linden
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Maybe you need to go back to the drawing board with your uh idea there

umbral reef
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I love that you have big goals
But learning how VR works, how to make apps and ect is the first step of learning how to make a VR product...

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You cant build a space car without understanding how to drive..

covert linden
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^

cyan pond
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Agreed, but do you start without understanding if it's feasible?

covert linden
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No

cyan pond
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you just told me my video/cpu etc cant handle it

ruby burrow
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How big is your room that you'd want to be able to fit thousands of people into it anyway? Would everyone be shrunken in scale?

queen mango
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Umm.. you still have to start first with experience

cyan pond
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it's going to have to be hosted in times square on a super computer

queen mango
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Everyone had experience with the product they (plan to) build, one way or another

covert linden
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You dont start without knowing possibilities.. I didnt start making my movie thinking about even the current market and my chances

queen mango
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^

ruby burrow
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I think it's more that you might have a fundamental misunderstanding of what VR Chat is, or how these kinds of "exhibits" normally function.

umbral reef
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Its never feasible though
Take this from a guy who wanted to start up his own start up but the more i learn about this stuff the more id rather not risk it.
This is not going to work unless you actually know what your doing. No one will give you money for no reason.
VRchat wont work with you unless it benefits them upfront... And how it looks all this would just cost them resources and work.

ruby burrow
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Less about the computing at this stage.

opaque hawk
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I approach these things like a college professor advised.
“How do you eat a elephant?”
“One bite at a time”
Learn something new everyday even if it’s one thing

cyan pond
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I don't, i used the product about a year ago

covert linden
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For movie making I had to learn Fooley, Directing, Producing, studying beyond whaf I even knew was the norm, and that even includes learning the interior about pcs

queen mango
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You also have to observe the current market situation, after which you decide on whether this market is suited for your product or not.

cyan pond
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I just don't have a good grasp of the technical limitations

covert linden
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Then you need to study them

umbral reef
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Then learn and study first...

covert linden
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You need to study everythig even SLIGHTLY related, take it from someone tryna start up and indep company

cyan pond
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I think you've kind of shined a light on the fact that my idea isn't going to scale to thousands/millions

ruby burrow
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Can I ask again how big is your room that you'd want or expect to be able to fit thousands of people into a virtual representation of it anyway? Would everyone be shrunken in scale?

cyan pond
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they wouldn't all enter at the same time

ruby burrow
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And when you say "room" do you mean a room inside a house, or something more abstract?

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Ah. Thought so.

opaque hawk
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You could definitely make a prototype in vrchat

ruby burrow
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Aek. VR Chat is instanced.

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You can have infinite instances of the same world. Each instance is limited to 80 max (20 to 30 max in terms of typical practical performance limits).

cyan pond
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so it scales out in instances of 80?

ruby burrow
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Have you ever played or watched VR-Chat? ^ ^;

cyan pond
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yeap

umbral reef
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Its your product / idea / service Aek.
Do your proper research man, we are right now making your thing instead 😂

queen mango
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But have you observed the various popular worlds with people in them, like the Great Pug for example

ruby burrow
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Any time you visit "The Pug" for example, there are dozens of copies of that world existing separate to the one you're in.

cyan pond
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huh? of course they run on servers

queen mango
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Instances

covert linden
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Nope its a seperate room Aek, thing of the universe. Lets say each planet can fit 80 people. You cant speak to anyonr from a diff planet, youre stuck to thr 80, but lets also say all planets are identical. Thats vrchat. @cyan pond

cyan pond
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where else would they be running? this isn't like bitcoin mining

heavy dawn
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I just read up and saw IBM watson and I'm baffled by whatever aek wants to make. LOL

cyan pond
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Lol

heavy dawn
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Watson is fun to use for free though. You can make your own categorization engines super easy.

cyan pond
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Rae: understood but aren't the instances running on servers?

covert linden
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You can have 10000 people in thr world, in instances (planets) of 80. So they cannot communicatr with eachother

cyan pond
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there's a limit to the # of instances based on the # of serers sitting in the MS datacenter

covert linden
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Noo theres no limit on the number if instances

cyan pond
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or AWS wherever it is

covert linden
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But the people inside the instances.

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Theres one big server, okay? Instances, are versions of the same world that can hold an x amount of people

umbral reef
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Tbh rn i wonder if anyone chatting here knows what they are speaking about...
So many half true's and half wrongs

vocal shard
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Even so, I don't think vrchat is the place to promote a product. You're not even allowed to advertise in your worlds

stoic halo
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wait so we cant promote sprite cranberry? wtf

covert linden
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So you can have 5000 people in your world, but only 80 in each instance, like a school and their classroom limits

stoic halo
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bs im taking this up to corporate

cyan pond
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Well, in fairness I did say I'd disuss with the VRChat owners i'm not promoting anything

vocal shard
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Lol

cyan pond
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I didn't even want to give details about the idea

queen mango
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I believe that's old news, wrong?

cyan pond
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Squishy talked me into it

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; -)

covert linden
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Im showering now because this is too weird 4 me

cyan pond
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It was actually really helpful, thanks for the input

ruby burrow
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I'm not sure you're really given any details still to be honest. ^ ^;

cyan pond
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I'm going to reach out to them

stoic halo
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i still dont even understand

ruby burrow
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Right now I'm imagining someone 3D scanning their bed room, and wanting to show the world it.

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That's all I've got.

vocal shard
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Yeah that's what i got out of it

covert linden
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"Finally I can show off all my loli figures.."

cyan pond
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there's nothing interesting in my bedroom

opaque hawk
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Legends actually recreated his bedroom in vrchat

cyan pond
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Is it against TOS to charge a fee for entering private worlds?

queen mango
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I think he was referring to 3D scanning himself and then creating an avatar from said scan result GWllentThinkPika

ruby needle
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yes @cyan pond

stoic halo
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yes it is aek

cyan pond
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ok just checking

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it wouldn't be necessary to do so just curious

queen mango
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@cyan pond No charge though.. but you need a friend's invite..
That said, it'd be against the rules to charge for private instances

ruby burrow
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I've been tempted to try the same. And get it to scale with my avatar. I've drawn my room out inside the game with the 3D pens before. Which is fun being able to dive onto the bed and have everyone see it accurately.

covert linden
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I dont want to dive into bed with my headset on my face

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Thats how ima get a broken nose

stoic halo
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ive considered making my bedroom into a world

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then i realized how little room there would be

cyan pond
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So listen, when this idea takes off i'm coming back to say I told ya so.

vocal shard
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I remade my room in game, but then went in with my avatar and everything felt bigger. Lol

opaque hawk
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@cyan pond please do

cyan pond
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haha

stoic halo
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please lmao

ruby burrow
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It's also worth mentioning Aek, that if the world was left as private, you would need to personally create every instance, and invite every guest manually, from within the game.

ruby needle
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smol Jamie cirComfy

stoic halo
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like that guy who claimed the oculus quest would outsell every other vr headset

cyan pond
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Squishy, minor details !

umbral reef
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I should totally get to scanning these robots i got at work and school
Make them a proper moddel and then using them

ruby burrow
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To get any relevant number of visitors in, it'd need to be public.

covert linden
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Also keep in mind I dont think vrc will make any big changes to how it works for you

cyan pond
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Squishy you wanna go in on this 50/50? I can pay you in my own virtual currency

umbral reef
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A core pillar of how the product will work.
'Just a minor detail'

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This convo hurts me on more then one level btw-

opaque hawk
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This past few months I’ve really been digging into the trigger system. Really changing how I make worlds.

covert linden
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Caan dm vrc all I want about how sneezing should be a default emote
They wont do it

cyan pond
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10,000 aek's per week

covert linden
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I remember when I thought the only thing id have to study for my movie was art
HAh
Fun times..

queen mango
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Such wild brains GWshinodunOts

umbral reef
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Btw Aek how old are you even if you got such big ambitions

cyan pond
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9

stoic halo
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,lkmnjm,nhbj,khgb

covert linden
queen mango
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You sure?

ruby burrow
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Are... we being trolled. ._.

queen mango
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@cyan pond Are you sure about that?

opaque hawk
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Lol well you got plenty of time

cyan pond
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I'm kidding

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older than most of ya

queen mango
covert linden
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You cant say that without knowing our ages

opaque hawk
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You sure bro 👵

cyan pond
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positive

stoic halo
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then how old lol

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inb4 15

cyan pond
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I was one of the first people on IRC

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wait lemme take it back further,

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ran a B B S

stoic halo
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IRC started in 1988.

ruby burrow
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See, if I'm older I wouldn't want to admit it anyway. >_>
So it becomes an awkward thing to compare.

queen mango
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Could you atleast tell us your age so that we don't get dragged into this spindly world of Wonderland?

umbral reef
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Or close to as its annoying

cyan pond
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40s

ruby burrow
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I can believe it.

queen mango
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Hmm..

fervent frigate
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Is anyone else having issues with nothing loading in VRChat?

cyan pond
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server prob ran outa memory, they just finished telling me it all runs on your pc lol

covert linden
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Uh no thats not the problem

umbral reef
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Aek what is your current work field then?

stoic halo
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more than memory contributes to servers dropping.

covert linden
umbral reef
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Like you plan to make a full career switch?

covert linden
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That too

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I dont have emotes here reeeee

cyan pond
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Kairos: are you greek?

umbral reef
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Nope- Im dutch.

cyan pond
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ah ok, I'm in the IT field currently

stoic halo
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which part of IT specifically do you specialize in

sonic verge
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i just got something about database version 1 and version 2, what can i do with that?

stoic halo
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or your job title would give a better idea

cyan pond
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Chief Executive Unicorn

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; -)

umbral reef
bright nest
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hello

vocal shard
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hi

fervent frigate
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Thanks I've tried the fixes and I'm still encountering issues. Moving to user-support

unique mauve
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I need a faster computer lol. even with a 16 core processor it takes like 30 minutes to bake the lighting on my world haha.. Trying to get it under 200mbs..

opaque hawk
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Have you checked out bakery?

vocal shard
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looking for mute people to play with

unique mauve
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Bakery?

opaque hawk
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Yes it’s a gpu lightmapper

unique mauve
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oo

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I only have a 1070ti tho..

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$55 >.> lol looks good tho, I googled it

opaque hawk
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Better than what I have

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Should probably wait for a sale, it’s 👌 worth it imho

unique mauve
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Yeah.. could help, even with 16 cores at 3.2GHz - still pegs at 100% when baking.

covert linden
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What cpu lol

unique mauve
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Its a Xeon E5.

covert linden
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Idk much about cpus but uh

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Is it a laptop

unique mauve
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No, Its a tower.

covert linden
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Ah

unique mauve
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128 GBs of ram.

covert linden
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I use the i7 7k but Im not good with terms and such or knowing if theyre good

ruby burrow
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A quick google search puts that processor at between $1000 to $3000.
Fancy.

opaque hawk
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Well for some reference. My bakes on my i5 4460 took 20-25 minutes but 3-5 minutes on my 1050ti using bakery

ruby burrow
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Wait, I didn't have the actual model number when I searched...

unique mauve
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I have a duel socket Mobo, I wanna get a second.

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My processor is a few years old. but it gets the job done.

ruby burrow
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"Recommended Customer Price $4,616.00"
Lol

unique mauve
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I didn't pay anywhere near that

covert linden
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I thought the xeon was a worse laptop version so this is news to me.. ive been memeing it for awhile

unique mauve
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I use it in a professional manner, its not like I use it for just web browsing and games.

ruby burrow
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Not a mainstream processor either way. Perhaps hence the weird varied prices I'm seeing.

unique mauve
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Yeah there are tons of xeons

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Being kinda old tho, and I bought it second hand from the DOD its not as fast as I'd like it to be

ruby burrow
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Wrong tool for light baking I guess.

unique mauve
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My world is huge, over 200mbs and takes minutes to walk from one side to another so that kinda makes it take a bit longer

ruby burrow
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Must be amazing for it's intended niche though at least.

unique mauve
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I use most of it to host my website and such

covert linden
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Man theres so much to pcs eek

opaque hawk
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Your lightmaps must be huge

ruby burrow
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Oh yeah, same as anything else there's a crazy amount of it.

unique mauve
ruby burrow
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But it's not like you need to know every CPU out there.

opaque hawk
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Lol almost 300 lightmaps

ruby burrow
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Just the ones related to your interests.

covert linden
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I have to learn pcs for my movie, not to a big extent, but it is important

opaque hawk
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I felt accomplished when I got one of worlds into one 1k texture and one .5k texture

covert linden
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So I can learn whats the best to animate on and such and for what im doing for, So I know like intels stuff mostly, Like i3-i9 and the gens.. but not perfectly, nvidia like the 10xx, 16xx, and 20xx are straightforward

cyan pond
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Squishy, i'm going into the think tank i'll be back with all the answers

covert linden
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But the second you ask me about ryzens im stumped

ruby burrow
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Hmm. Stuff like video editing does have it's own range of ideal processors if I understand correctly. Though I've not got any knowledge outside of the typical consumer and gaming oriented stuff.

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Obviously you can still use anything for anything. Will just effect the time tasks take a bit.

covert linden
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But thing is like I also game, animate, anf video edit so itd need to be well rounded

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Im getting 1660ti, Ryzen 2600 and 16gb ram, ideally id like to upgrade to 32gb ram when I begin animating, But im fine with everything else for now

ruby burrow
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That sounds really sensible and well rounded to me at least.

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Ideal cost to performance ratio for most people.

unique mauve
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Ram is very expensive.. the 128 GBs of ram I have was the most expensive component by far.

ruby burrow
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Well if you're buying that much sure. xD

unique mauve
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Its for VMs - ram based VMs are much much faster than SSD or M.2 based.

covert linden
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Indont need more than 32

ruby burrow
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Wait... yikes. Since when did 16gb of ram cost £75 to £100?

unique mauve
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90% of people don't need more than 16

ruby burrow
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I swear it used to be cheaper than that...

covert linden
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If yall know what pre rendering is, what is that mainly on, ram, cpu, or gpu

unkempt sparrow
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hi

covert linden
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Like a memory cache thing in editing programs

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My old laptop was terrible with it, couldnr watch an animation in my program for even 5 seconds because itd run out of.. something

unique mauve
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Well, it depends if its hardware accelerated but it will pre-render then dump to ram for scrubbing

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so depends on the software but you might have been running out of ram.

covert linden
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@unique mauve Toonboom and sony vegad

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I had 8gb ram, i3 old gen idk which, and idk what gpu.

unique mauve
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I with VR chat didn't have this soft cap/Target of 200MBs... lol I have to make choices on details for everything I want to add

unkempt sparrow
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ever just delete system 32 by mistake?

unique mauve
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not by mistake no

unkempt sparrow
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i did it once because i was curious

covert linden
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Thats not an accident

unique mauve
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Yeah

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almost.. done.. lol

covert linden
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My new laptop though is an i7 7k 8gb ram with an ssd and a 1050 and sony vegas works 10x better.. but I havent used toonboom yet

opaque hawk
#

What do you mean by soft cap of 200MBs

stray jackal
#

Anyone know why im not able to make a vrchat account on the website?

vast tulip
#

what do people call it when you keep pressing forward to fly through the air? I know some people call it stutter step, but, ive heard a different name for it before too, anyone know?

modern sand
#

Dashing ?

vocal shard
#

I always heard gliding

modern sand
queen mango
#

Hmm.. All I could guess is air bouncing.

covert linden
#

Ive called it gliding tooo I was taught thats the name

queen mango
#

Air bumping? Airstep bouncing?

stray jackal
#

I guess ill try there ty

opaque hawk
#

I call it gliding as well

unique mauve
#

@opaque hawk Seems to be frowned upon to have maps larger than 200MBs and the public uploading form says you have to have a good reason for being larger than 200MBs, plus it takes some people a LONG time to start a large world like that which is a turn down getting your world to be popular.

queen mango
#

But isn't gliding a continuous forward motion with minimal altitude loss?
This isn't gliding

opaque hawk
#

Got you KT

ruby burrow
#

Gliding is how I usually refer to it. Sometimes just "flying", though that's obviously less accurate.

queen mango
#

I dunno... it could be airskipping.

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Interruptions in altitude loss due to small movements

ruby burrow
#

One friend referred to it as "Squishy's doing their Mary Poppins impression again" on account of the long skirt my original avatar had.

unique mauve
#

God I can't wait till I get the trust rank of User >.> haha

vocal shard
fleet valve
#

hello. what chat do i go to for help with making an avatar?

opaque hawk
#

I’m sure it won’t be long

barren spruce
#

Just played for the first time. Very fun game.

winged igloo
#

Great to hear!

unique mauve
#

Welcome ❤

worthy cove
#

You need a VRChat account instead of Steam and I believe you just hang out in worlds, add people, and just play the game and you'll rank up eventually

#

If you go into Vrchat and settings there should be an option to 'upgrade account' which will allow you to make a VRchat account and still keep everything like friends/avatars/worlds. It'll just transfer to your VRChat account so basically linking

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You can rank up on steam but I'm pretty sure it takes a very long time and caps at User

iron thunder
#

Yo, I'm trying to make an intro for a vrchat documentary about joining a cult. Do any of you know some worlds that are noir-ish? Maybe black and white? Maybe I'll just throw words that I'm thinking of out.. Sad? Distant? Alone? Anxious? Maybe just a dark room with a spotlight?

vocal shard
#

@modern sand are the knuckles controllers supported yet or will be? On release? Instructions?

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I believe from the test video they showed a few months ago, they were working with the knuckles. They snapped to the gestures similar to rift touch, using real hand gesture positions, but it didn't have full finger tracking yet. Although i hope they do add that. They have been working with the knuckles, so let's hope

opaque hawk
#

If they work with the vive I may pick the knuckles up

vocal shard
#

Yeah I'm sure they do. All the other people who had them already used them with the vive, and it uses the same tracking

#

does anyone know how to make vrchat less laggy on oclous? yes i have low vr, yes my computer is vr ready, and ive put my ovlous on low settings

iron thunder
#

you using steamvr?

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Steamvr is a pain in my ass so I just use the Oculus store version.

glad bolt
#

Maybe internet is throttled right now?

opaque hawk
#

Force reduce resolution in steam vr settings

iron thunder
#

id say just avoid steamvr completely. For some reason my headset always looks like its melting in that shit.

versed kelp
#

hi

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Im watching twitch

paper lintel
#

my unity isnt letting me upload avatars just says says clear cache and player prefs

rigid crescent
#

just turn off the motion smoothing and it won't melt forehead

high kayak
#

Why all the guys like to choose Anime girl avatars?

#

I've never understood that.

barren spruce
#

^

opaque hawk
#

I personally like being a anime girl.

vivid halo
#

Hi

covert linden
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@high kayak Because there are much more anime girl avatars oppose to male, male ones are harder to make

opaque hawk
#

welcome

vivid halo
#

I like being RemasteredEBoy

opaque hawk
#

I joined this game so I could be a anime monster girl. I succeeded

high kayak
#

Why would people want to look like a gender that they are not?

opaque hawk
#

I don't have any problem with it.

vivid halo
#

I found a avatar that's Male that can also do the music thing

high kayak
#

I don't have a problem with it either, I'm just perplexed by it.

vivid halo
#

I'm currently going into the mmd nightclub

opaque hawk
#

I've played as a different race than my own too. I don't feel like its all that weird

high kayak
#

I've also seen furry anime girl avatars.

vivid halo
#

Oh god

winged igloo
#

I think it comes down to some people like cute things and would prefer to look cute than normal

high kayak
#

Again, I'm not judging.

vivid halo
#

Oof

high kayak
#

Which gender uses VRChat the most? Boys or girls?

vivid halo
#

Its equal

#

But hey, some girls may be using a voice change and guys may be using one to

high kayak
#

And yes, I am aware that there would be people using VRChat that aren't male or female but transgender or something like that.

steel coral
#

It actually is rather even.

#

I've been surprised by that.

vivid halo
#

Yeah

covert linden
#

theres more boys, used to be like MOSTLY boys, now its pretty even,

winged igloo
#

I'd say it's pretty even

high kayak
#

Male and female aren't the only genders anymore, but they are the only traditional genders.

vivid halo
#

Tbh I though girls would be more popular because some may see it as a way of finding guys

opaque hawk
#

I feel like it does lean towards males, but its gender split is close to even

high kayak
#

The other genders are still valid but just non-traditional.

vivid halo
#

Yeah

high kayak
#

I intend to make my avatar match my real life gender.

modern sand
steel coral
#

Literally every girl I know on VRChat tends to either not speak at all, or never visit public worlds because thirsty dudes crowd around them.

vivid halo
#

If anyone wants to join me I'm at mmd nightclub

steel coral
#

@modern sand Good point.

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Move to random, guys.

high kayak
#

Thirsty? But it's VR. Your Avatar doesn't need to drink to live.

vivid halo
#

Lol

high kayak
#

That's what you mean by thirsty right?

vivid halo
#

No

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He means guys that want to find some to Mate with in other words

high kayak
#

Which is first of all not appropriate and second of all not possible in VR, and rightly so.

#

VR may not be real life but people will still judge you for what you do so a level of maturity is expected.

winged igloo
#

MK8, did you not see my ping in the other channel?

high kayak
#

Now I see it.

winged igloo
#

Thanks

high kayak
#

My bad.

crimson goblet
#

hey, i cant see anyone else ingame. anyone else having that issue?

modern sand
#

Update VRChat

crimson goblet
#

it should be updated

#

at least steam doest show any update

winged igloo
#

Restart your steam

crimson goblet
#

okay, it didnt update, but it works again ^^

winged igloo
#

Awesome!

tranquil junco
#

Hey guys!

unique mauve
#

Hello

bitter plover
#

Hello

vivid halo
#

who wants to be my friend?

#

not to sound weird

tranquil junco
#

I like friends

white lichen
#

if i had a dollar for every russian ugandan knuckles ive seen, i probabbly would end up being richer than bill gates

vernal coyote
#

Anyone elses game not loading?

restive kraken
#

Have you tried restarting vrchat that normally fixes it for me

umbral reef
vernal coyote
#

yup, restarted and cleared cache

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and ok one sec

slate rock
#

mines doing it too

sly viper
#

Same here

#

I can't load into worlds

slate rock
#

servers dying

restive kraken
#

I can I just tried

slate rock
#

for some

restive kraken
#

The game can be so broken sometimes

slate rock
#

Ehhh hopefully they see ths

umbral reef
vernal coyote
#

didn't do anything else and it seems to have fixed itself

sly viper
#

Ye its fixed now

restive kraken
#

Yep sounds like vrchat Logic

#

Welp my PC just gave me the blue screen of death

charred plinth
#

what was the error

restive kraken
#

Windows builder error something like that it happens quite often too

winged igloo
#

@safe prism No talk about that sort of stuff please

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Rule 4

safe prism
#

yeah, that was pushing it

#

my bad <3

tiny ginkgo
#

nya~

safe prism
#

nya

tiny ginkgo
#

Are you misbehaving again

safe prism
#

no i was bullying

winged igloo
#

They had some extra messages after your last one, I removed those too.

crimson rain
#

What is this nya

safe prism
#

nya is the sound a cat makes

crimson rain
#

No cat goes meow

winged igloo
#

^

safe prism
#

in japanese

crimson rain
#

🤔

safe prism
#

gorogoro and nyanya

winged igloo
vocal shard
#

Cool '^'

tiny ginkgo
#

It's the sound of happiness

crimson rain
#

I need to get with the times

tiny ginkgo
#

I nya in vrc often

small wing
#

Just cleared cache, but still getting an issue where nothing is loading in vrchat

winged igloo
#

What do you mean nothing is loading?

small wing
#

I open the game and it sits at the loading screen with 0.00%

crimson rain
#

Did u try beating ur pc

small wing
#

Been sitting now for 15 minutes

winged igloo
#

Have you tried reinstalling yet?

vocal shard
#

Maybe an update?

small wing
#

Could give that a shot

winged igloo
#

Restart Steam and see if there's an update that just hasn't gone through

#

if that doesn't work, try a fresh install

small wing
#

Trying to uninstall on oculus, didn't uninstall.

#

Now whenever i click launch nothing happens

#

oh wait, now its delayed as fuck lol

#

so now its installing

vocal shard
#

Does a 3D Porky or Pigmask model exist in VRChat? I don't find one

small wing
#

will let you know if anything is still broken

crimson rain
#

There was a new update recently

#

Maybe that’s why

small wing
#

Like just a few hours ago?

#

I was running fine all day today.

crimson rain
#

Last night

winged igloo
#

There was an update Friday, but if it was fine earlier today, idk

crimson rain
#

Hmmm

slate rock
#

nothing loadingg issue

#

on and off

winged igloo
#

You having the same issue as Rollthered where nothing is loading?

slate rock
#

Yep

winged igloo
#

You launching off Oculus or steam?

crimson rain
#

Are other ppl having issues

small wing
#

Issue started happening after uploading a new avatar

#

Made sure none of the materials were using unbaked substance materials, as I know that would cause similar problems.

#

Going to have to delete the avatar in hopes that it stops bricking my client.

crimson rain
#

Yea hopefully that does it lower the spects for vrchat

small wing
#

It doesn't really bother me though if that is the issue. I have 270 avatars in my menu to keep me busy anyways. 😛

#

Been testing out flying systems on avatars that I am working on.

#

Some armatures seem to affect it pretty hardcore so i'm uploading multiple different rigs to see what it is.

crimson rain
#

270 😧

small wing
#

3 years will do it.

crimson rain
#

I have 7 lol

small wing
#

Ye, watch those shoot up to like 20 by the end of next month.

#

making content for this game gets addicting.

#

You start to find out cool stuff that nobody has done before, and before you know it you have hundreds in ur menu.

crimson rain
#

I have no clue how 🤭 I want to learn

small wing
#

Keep experimenting and making mistakes. Its the best way to learn imo.

#

the most fun too

winged igloo
#

I've never really gotten into it myself, part because I've never put aside the time to learn, part because I know it's the sort of thing I'd put an unhealthy amount of time into haha

small wing
#

I would go for it.

#

Its really good for when you got stress like me.

#

Takes ur mind off stuff.

crimson rain
#

I wana try one day ima msg u 🤗 and tel me what to download cause I can’t now I’m at work ;,(

small wing
#

that will get you started

crimson rain
#

Oh I will do that ty 😚

small wing
#

And also another good thing to do is watch a lot of tutorials unrelated to VRChat but that also still deal with unity

#

That's how I learn most of the cool stuff

#

Blender guru is a good channel for stuff revolving around 3D modeling

crimson rain
#

I swear i would make the weirdest stuff

small wing
#

Brackeys also did a good tutorial on PBR (Photorealism)

crimson rain
#

I just got my leg trackers last night I love it ! 🤗

winged igloo
#

One thing I would really love here is to either have some sort of curated tutorials list, or have someone create a load of tutorials with the most up to date and correct information

small wing
#

I wish i could use leg trackers lol

#

@winged igloo I have that sorta thing in my discord.

#

Could recommend that to the admins and I will be glad to post there

#

Lots of really obscure yet informational stuff that I find that ends up helping me the most.

winged igloo
#

There used to be a #tutorials channel but it got removed for some reason, I think they opted to focus on user-to-user support with all the support and help channels they have here

#

but not sure

small wing
#

Why not both? lol

#

Some people just wanna do it themselves haha

winged igloo
#

I've asked about it before but I'm not sure if it got seen, I'll ask again

small wing
#

Ye for sure.

winged igloo
#

Because it could be really helpful, especially for newer users

small wing
#

Funnily enough the best tutorials ive ever watched had nothing to do with vrchat

#

but they helped me out so much

#

VRChat specific tutorials never really touch on Unity's core function's it seems.

#

They just explain what buttons to push, and never really what they all do.

#

Or how to use them even more.

winged igloo
#

Understanding how Blender and Unity work in general before getting into the specifics is what's really needed to make sure people actually understand what they're doing

#

And the sort of thing that should be featured on a curated tutorials list

small wing
#

Another big one is shaders. Some people really don't like using someone else's work. Even if it goes un noticed by most.

#

Amplify and Shaderfourge tutorials basically made me love VRChat even more.

#

Iv'e made really cool surface shaders for my models that would have otherwise looked bland and uninteresting if it were something everyone else used.

#

Which being unique sometimes is worth the extra work. It add's to the hobbyist aspect of the game. Sorta like how people spend hours in any other character creation engine in any other game except a bit more complicated as it deals with some code.

#

If I said I haven't inspired anyone I would probably be lying. Countless people have inspired me to do the exact thing I am doing right now. Its really just about making cool stuff for people to enjoy at this point for me.

#

That's kinda why I feel VRChat is more about the art.

winged igloo
#

That's awesome!

small wing
#

Ye, would totally recommend getting into making stuff for sure. Even if its just small things like props and retextures.

#

Modeling is kinda my secrett passion tbh. I don't do it too often though because inspiration is hard to find.

#

But just as much how people like drawing or playing an instrument. Its pretty much the same.

winged igloo
#

Would be awesome to have an event where different avatar creators could showcase their creations, sort of like a fashion show, but for avatars

small wing
#

I think that would be really good for the community as well.

#

It would make people talk more about cool stuff they have made and maybe inspire others.

#

Iv'e seen some really neat stuff in my own circle of friends, would be neat to see even more of that.

winged igloo
#

Could be a community run thing, could also be a way for some creators to show off their creations to promote commissions or something

umbral reef
#

Eret
There where loads of shows like that but with that removing some avatar things the community kinda stopped with it.
They where also closed from the public because of lagg ..

winged igloo
#

Well nothing large scale because I've not heard of any apart from Virtual Market 2

umbral reef
#

Ow yea nothing close to that size

winged igloo
#

and that was almost entirely focussed on the asian/japanese community

#

so anyone who didn't speak Japanese may have been considerably confused (myself included)

small wing
#

I just wanna finally figure out inspiration for my next revision of my main model.

#

I'm aiming for Toonami levels of quality here haha

queen mango
#

I may have forgotten to say, that there were also options for different languages

winged igloo
#

There may have been, but it was hardly promoted outside of the Asian community

small wing
#

I wanna make an avatar that look's as if it could have its own tv show. Really hard to create a character like that.

#

but i'm gonna hop into vrc, it was nice chatting.

#

winged igloo
#

Yeah, gotta be very unique

#

Yeah, nice chatting

vocal shard
#

Hoii

winged igloo
#

see ya mate!

small wing
#

🙏

queen mango
#

Yeah.. there weren't much news on VM2 outside Japan, in spite of its explosive populaarity..
I couldn't get to check the other booths due to my laptop's tendency to boot me out of the instance.

winged igloo
#

I'm not sure what VM2 was really like or how they organised it as I only really found out about how big it was when it was already too late to check it out.

#

But it would be awesome if something like that of similar scale could be organised for the English speaking community

queen mango
#

Speaking of which, they're planning for English Support for the upcoming Virtual Market 3

#

Still no announcement date, but they're planning on it

winged igloo
#

Would be easier to work with their already well organised system to offer and promote more English-friendly support and accessibility than it would be to start something completely separate

queen mango
#

Mhm.. that's what I see in them, tbh.

winged igloo
#

Like, I was very interested in what they had done once I found out about it, but I found it so challenging to work out what was actually going on as I needed to run everything through Google Translate

queen mango
#

That's the issue that they're trying to solve.. but I still can't help but wonder what solution would they implement.
The best I would presume is to request for an English speaker who is fluent in Japanese.

umbral reef
#

Just use Google translate Camera function on mobile ;p
Live translations then

vocal shard
#

Hoiii

queen mango
#

Not really the most permanent solution..

umbral reef
#

True
Far from, having proper translations would solve it.

#

@vocal shard Hello

vocal shard
#

Swamo ate my snacks and wont bye me more

winged igloo
#

There are loads of native English speakers who have learned Japanese. It is important that the English used in promoting the event is not "broken English" as in badly translated from Japanese to English

queen mango
#

I also know there are people from Japan in VRChat that can speak both English and Japanese, and could probably translate them too.

vocal shard
#

well yeah but English and Japanese is the worlds hardest languages

queen mango
#

True

winged igloo
#

One solution could be for a Japanese-English bi-lingual to do the translation and for a native English speaker to make sure that it is all clear and logical

queen mango
#

@vocal shard I was surprised that English is harder to learn for Japanese than it would be for Japanese to English speakers.

vocal shard
#

Indeed

winged igloo
#

One of the staff on our server is Chinese and his English is not always the best, so whatever he writes we just clean up into perfect English if he wants to make an announcement

vocal shard
#

my Japanese teacher is chinese

queen mango
#

That aside, yeah.. There are a few bilinguistic Japanese I could ask

vocal shard
#

True

queen mango
#

Does KeiroKamioka ring a bell?

winged igloo
#

Not to me

vocal shard
#

no

queen mango
#

Oh..

#

He's as good as he is in English just as he is in Japanese

vocal shard
#

srry

winged igloo
#

There is a separation between the Japanese and English speaking communities and I think it is important to try to reduce that separation

#

whatever it takes

queen mango
#

^
This should be a top priority, especially for VRChat

meager solstice
#

But how would they go about doing that?

#

It’s easier said than done tbh.

queen mango
#

Ahh, shit.. yeah. It's gonna need some thinking though

#

Plus a month of population survey and optionally, interviews

winged igloo
#

bilinguals are the key

#

the closer the two communities, there may also be more interest in learning the other's language

vocal shard
#

Swamp wont buy me snacks

#

He ate my snacks and wont bye me more..

queen mango
#

I could forsee this being a well-understood language somewhere in the future, though right now.. not many people show awareness about the Japanese language, nor its writing system

#

All they could think of when they see this “英語“ are moonrunes

winged igloo
#

English is the language of the internet, if you understand English you can see most of what the internet has to offer, Japanese on the other hand just gives you access to understanding Japanese internet

cold talon
#

And learning Russian allows you to get free content 👀

queen mango
#

Right.. but this is more of a language barrier issue

#

Something that I want to see being broken down as time passes by, not have one language be rendered extinct

civic tartan
#

oof

cold talon
#

But how would one do that, the languages are so different

vocal shard
#

??

queen mango
#

Images could be a good way of learning a new language

vocal shard
#

I guess

celest dawn
#

ty :p

vocal shard
#

?

#

Im confused

light river
#

Japanese is mostly spoken only in japan

#

There’s a reason it’s not a “popular” language as opposed to something like mandarin

winged igloo
#

I mean, Mandarin is pretty much only spoken in China

queen mango
#

And Norwegian, and Dutch, and Tagalog, and Indonesian, and Malaysian

winged igloo
#

What?

inner cape
#

I don't think they speak those languages in China

winged igloo
#

lol

queen mango
#

I was meaning to say that those languages are spoken in their respective countries

inner cape
#

there are too many to list then

light river
#

Well i meant that more in the sense that more than a billion people speak mandarin

winged igloo
#

English, French, Spanish and Portuguese are the languages I'd say are the most wide-spread, note that I said "wide-spread" as in global spread, not just one country's population

#

Arabic is very up there as well

light river
#

I guess I was looking at it from more of a business view, that’s how school made me think of a language being “useful”

winged igloo
#

I mean, if you want to do business with China, learn Mandarin

queen mango
#

Basically, to do business with other people of different languages, you gotta have to understand their language

#

It should be YOU who adapts to them

light river
#

Don’t mean to sound rude, but that’s pretty obvious

#

Interpreters are extremely common (if not completely necessary)

pearl rapids
#

hi

light river
#

👋

pearl rapids
#

H

true sky
#

people posting pepe emotes or emotes against the rules

#

i dont really know why they are disabled

cold talon
#

Some emote spam happend a long time ago, so they disabled emotes and reactions

#

And left us with these

true sky
cold talon
#

🤷

light river
#

Oh yeah I remember the reaction spam on an announcement

#

A tidal wave

cold talon
#

99% chance it won't be approved

light river
#

tanabae i like the crying, screaming minion

cold talon
#

Emotes are about famous youtuber/mods

winged igloo
#

It's in FAQ, but that info is very outdated as far as I know

safe prism
#

im a famous vrchat youtubuer

#

can i have a catgirl emote

winged igloo
#

Most of the emotes came from early days of the community

#

including 3 I made lol

cold talon
#

They didn't approve zarnis emote :sad:

winged igloo
#

I made these 3: Emmitt nagz ElectroSwinger

queen mango
#

They're still lookin good if you ask me

winged igloo
#

Wouldn't blame you if you didn't know who any of them were any more though

queen mango
#

These three on the other hand.. zircron evolved_ant vrprint

cold talon
#

Usefull emotes: tanabae tororo PanDiman iris hackspanner vrpill

#

They can actually be used in conversations

wild narwhal
#

Hey guys, it's me, world renown chef, Gordo Femboy

safe prism
#

this is bait

light river
#

if you’re really him, what’s the main ingredient in spaghetti

safe prism
#

flour

#

usually semolina flour

light river
#

The results are in

#

The answer, is spaghetti

safe prism
#

sorry this isn't meta enough for me

north axle
pseudo basalt
true sky
random fjord
#

hey so uh

#

my avatar was stolen

#

theres a picture with it and people have multiple discords leaking avatar ids

tacit plank
#

change it to private and reupload

random fjord
#

it is private

#

i havent uploaded a single public avatar ever

covert linden
#

Looks like they have the unity files, have you given them out to anyone?

random fjord
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nope

heavy dawn
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People can still save the cached model data too...

covert linden
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So they can steal the unity files?

heavy dawn
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Setting it private stops casual copying but someeone who is determined will be able to copy any asset in the game. UnityPackage files aren't exactly fort Knox.

tacit plank
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They can get the unity package files too (apparently no authentication is required for those)

random fjord
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well thats a big yikes

pseudo basalt
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I'm pretty sure you broadcast the link to the api for it everytime it's loaded

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And unpacking the avatar file is probably quite easy

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Even if you needed authentication, it's in your cache the second the avatar loads on your machine

random fjord
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i was told to uncheck this but idk if it helps

true sky
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people can still rip them out of the package via the vrca file

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had it happen before

random fjord
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damn dude thats fucked tbh

true sky
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you can get it out of the vrchat api, which most discords that rip stuff link to the vrca file

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best is to not use it in a public world

safe prism
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i'm pretty sure this isn't a topic for this discord but

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i don't have an emoji to make this sentence less serious

true sky
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if you see someone in your avatar, you can report the user to moderation@vrchat.com. just supply a username and pray that he gets banned

random fjord
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will do

umbral reef
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Dont just supply a username as they need proper proof

random fjord
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yeye i can do pictures

true sky
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most ripped stuff will have either the same pic or a different one. better proof is show avatar author

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if it has their name, then they ripped it

karmic talon
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anyone else having issues with avatars not loading?

random fjord
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yeye i have

sonic verge
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 6308 users in VRChat currently

wicked hedge
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Avatars wont load 😦

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logo avatar bug (Temp - cache files clear)

indigo monolith
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The server have some problems with downloading contents.

vocal shard
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vrc is weird right now yeah

wicked hedge
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😩

pure musk
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Im just gunna assume the reason I cant upload anything is a server issue

royal garnet
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Couldn't change avatars in the game either

wicked hedge
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Can we be aware when the game work again?

rapid jolt
#

can things just work for once?

nimble linden
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can confirm, issues changing/uploading avatars

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website also returns error code 500

quartz osprey
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amazon’s cloud servers are rip atm ...

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time to investigate better global options

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instead of single area ones

pseudo basalt
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But I want to have my 180+ ping

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I'm so used to it that anything lower will make the game feel weird

heavy dawn
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I mean, Amazon AWS is a pretty good cloud provider. Might be something else going on.

vocal shard
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Avatars loading very slow ingame, some avatars fail loading and turn red, can anyone else confirm?

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yep

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noice

earnest harbor
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worlds not loading either, an can't log in anymore..

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so RIP vrc servers

vocal shard
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also teleports away sometimes

white inlet
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anyone else not able to upload their avatar atm?

sterile glen
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yea

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the servers are toasters rn

white inlet
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ok i was worried my computer was on the fritz

quartz osprey
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2. No way to dedicate full 10Gb connection to one server if needed like DB servers cluster, Amazon can't do this currently

quote from 2013 mmorpg forum

white inlet
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everyday this happens with servers, its becoming a common trend

north ridge
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Tru

white inlet
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keeps hope for a Ready Player One game to come out soon

sterile glen
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^

quartz osprey
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basically what vrc want to happen (have all data to its single dedicated server)

white inlet
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so a major server, and no buffer or rainy day servers? thats a major crash waiting to happen

north ridge
#

Ready player juan >~>

white inlet
#

Olay

quartz osprey
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time to implement valve’s dedicated server clients inside vrchat ;D

white inlet
#

starts tapdancing with spanish trumpet and acustic guitar

sterile glen
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oh mah gad

white inlet
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Wut?

north ridge
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x3

sterile glen
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that so pecking c o ol

white inlet
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I have the latin fire in my soul

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#gassymexican

north ridge
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We gotta get ready for SAO >~>

white inlet
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Just let my lawyer know before I enter the game

north ridge
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x3 yuup

white inlet
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Gonna be like SAO abridged when I am done with this

north ridge
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Same

languid beacon
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Vrc in fullbody already feels like ready player one

north ridge
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No >~>

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You have sum strap thingys

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RPO uses. Well

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Remember those ppl fighting the air

languid beacon
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Strap thingies

light dust
covert linden
#

Thats nightmare worthy

north ridge
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Nightmare indeed

light dust
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we have a blue guy a red guy and now a white guy

north ridge
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Where yellow >~>

light dust
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hmm

light river
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that's a blue man love pillow

spare rose
#

Anyone else been seeing a low-poly blue Touhou (Cirno, I believe) character recently?

sterile glen
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nah?

north axle
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Damn, the servers are lagging. Now I can't gnome anyone via notifications.

cold talon
#

Pan using mod tools, smh.

north axle
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Am I?

cold talon
little rampart
#

i lost a new friend bcs of the servers
as soon as i disconected he was not on my friendlist anymore
rip :c

sonic verge
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!cache

cold talon
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Cache reporting in

sonic verge
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what was the code for it again lol

cold talon
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!clearcache

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Bot plz

sonic verge
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ded botto

cold talon
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!cleancache

floral flaxBOT
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You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

sonic verge
#

ayyyy

north ridge
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Wait is this a thing

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!deletesystem32

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awh

rapid jolt
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!reformat

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XD

heavy dawn
#

Reminds me of that old video where some guy tried to do a similar selfpwn in Linux and it just... kept... running. Didn't die until he tried to run stuff that no longer existed. Kernel was in RAM, so was the GUI.

scenic beacon
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oof I just joined into an error world

heavy dawn
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Hehe... someone should make something like a platformer glitch world.

scenic beacon
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vrchat error parkour/platform world confirmed

placid idol
#

reformatting drives...

modest epoch
#

monka

covert linden
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its a fake eek

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@ chatmod is imitating a bot allowed?

placid idol
#

shuush

covert linden
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no u

placid idol
modest epoch
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Spies among us

placid idol
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im not a spy, im here to help

north ridge
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Lol

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!deletesystem32

placid idol
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hackspanner no u

north ridge
#

..

modest epoch
#

The bot has evolved eyebrows, I feel our time here is limited

covert linden
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Me as welll

modest epoch
#

It was a good run while it lasted

placid idol
#

now if you excuse me, ill go and delete sys32 from the vrc servers

north ridge
#

xD

vivid vale
#

my friend said hes gonna cry cause the server problems XD

covert linden
#

can i hug him

cold talon
#

Dang, guess vrc bot did it after all

willow kiln
#

VRC still lagging and all ?

cold talon
#

Dunno, maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

nimble linden
#

I got past the upload error just now

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so maybe it's working now

willow kiln
#

Hope it stops I wanna play tonight :lul:

vocal shard
#

is any one having problems with loading avatars?

lethal summit
#

lots of orange avatars today

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even my own.. or stuck with the blue one

covert linden
#

translucent red homer simpson

willow kiln
#

Oh so there are still problems great

vocal shard
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stuck with blues two of the people i know in vrchat they switched avatars and there stuck in blue but we changed worlds so i am going to see if that changed any thing

sullen olive
#

Are people whom I've blocked supposed to be able to friend request me? I keep getting several a day from this guy on multiple accounts that I've blocked already.

true sky
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block only works for the account you block, doesnt work on alts

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you would have to block the alts sadly

still lark
#

You can still friend through a block.

true sky
#

it shows gray for me

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unless there is another way to friend request a blocked user

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🤔

still lark
#

Yes. :)

true sky
#

maybe they want to friend someone they dont see 😛

covert linden
#

You can even have someone friended and then block em, it doesnt delete em

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my friend blocks me whenever we are same room and hes talking ptsd

true sky
#

serious side, i wonder if they are using a client that shows they have them blocked and can still send friend requests. Wonder if vrchat verifies server side that the user has them blocked before they recieve the friend request.

still lark
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It does not.

true sky
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so we can get bombed basically by a blocked user

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:/

still lark
#

Yup

sullen olive
#

So does that mean I could basically report them as that is proof of using a client?

true sky
#

i am not sure, but it is possible

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you would need proof though that they are doing it

still lark
#

@sullen olive No because you don't need a client.

formal sequoia
#

Howdy! ^.^ New, but exploring VRChat and whatnot.

true sky
#

nvm, you can try friending people on the vrchat website who have you blocked

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🤔

sullen olive
#

Guess I'll have to live with these friend requests sitting there instead of declining them daily then 😅

stable pilot
#

wtb friends

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nani

proven lion
#

Sorry!

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That was meant for my server

ruby needle
#

👀

heavy dawn
#

@sullen olive Is Misery sending you friend requests again?

sullen olive
#

Yes, she bulli me

tulip pivot
#

Bless everyone’s soul

empty wharf
#

Perhaps

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🍕

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🍕

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Toppings? 🍆 or 🌰

formal sequoia
#

Huh, there sure are a lot of rude children in this game....

open bear
#

🍕

empty wharf
#

@formal sequoia and a lot of rude adults

frank lichen
#

Hey when will invited in vrchat get fixed.

empty wharf
#

It’s in the air

modest epoch
formal sequoia
#

Huh..... Then what's the draw if the community is garbage? Literally all I've experienced so far is three little teenage Americans wearing little anime girl AVs chirping me.

tawny aspen
#

anyone else haveing issues logging in?

modest epoch
#

Maybe the entire community isn't garbage based on the anecdote, and you need to just find friends you gel with.

umbral reef
#

Not everyone is going to be right for you to talk with and have a fun time with.
Be open for new people, dont be a 'grown up' and dont be scared to let yourself go.

There are loads of fun people, just takes a second to find them and be willingly to accept them

formal sequoia
#

Fair enough. It's likely just the first few people I met that were.... Less than wholesome.

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Like, would kick out of my business and ban for life material XD

umbral reef
#

You can always report those people if they broke the rules 😉

formal sequoia
#

I mean, they were calling me fag and being discriminatory.... And I wasn't even speaking and was just cycling through the default public AVs.

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But I don't care that much.

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It doesn't leave a game all about socializing with a good rep/image though.

modest epoch
#

Then make the community a better place by reporting them. It does sound like you care, so be the change you want to see in the community and help clean it up a bit?

heavy dawn
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@formal sequoia Yup. That's pretty much VRC. But there are nice people. Just move on from the public hub world as quickly as possible. Or be ready for the worst childish people around.

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I pretty much turn on OBS and screen record people being homophobic or racist (or both)

winged igloo
#

If people are doing that sort of thing, the only way they can be removed from the game is by reporting them. As much as the devs may want to be always aware of everything that's going on, that's not physically possible

heavy dawn
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They're usually doing it for attention. I'll just make it one step harder like Mobi says.

formal sequoia
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Sorta just getting my feet... I play a lot of SL.

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Like..... A LOT. As in...

heavy dawn
#

SL might be a bit more isolated.

formal sequoia
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Too much time spent online XD

heavy dawn
#

VRChat is like... almost like a pack-in game for VR

formal sequoia
#

Ohhhh, I see.

heavy dawn
#

So you get every rich entitled kid who thinks its funny to be racist

formal sequoia
#

That's awful! ^.^

heavy dawn
#

Or every angry 20+ something who has been sucked in by that trap 😛

#

But there are a lot of nice people too, TBH. I've had a lot of really wholesome experiences. It just took time.

formal sequoia
#

Alrighty, well I'mma...... stew on it. I've got a few AVs I'm waiting to upload.

heavy dawn
#

Basically the strategy is, take down some evidence, block immediately, and move on.

formal sequoia
#

In the meantime, I'll explore.

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I make a lot of custom content in SL, hence why I was interested in VRChat.

heavy dawn
#

Neat, that's what I like about VRC as well.

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Being Unity3D based I already knew unity so it was nice.

modest epoch
#

It's a cross-section of humanity like any other game, with all the wonders of being able to interact in VR and all the drawbacks of less-than-stellar individuals who want to be terrible because they're "anonymous"

heavy dawn
#

"Like any other game"

So many people here say that. It's like a mantra they keep telling themselves. 🙃

modest epoch
#

It is essentially true when it comes to community though, no?

heavy dawn
#

Usually it's far easier to avoid awful people in other games. In VRC the ONLY thing to do in most worlds is, uh, interact. People who are bad at it or who are there for trouble have an outsized effect.

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Also they're more bored / have less to do than just troll

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Of course, trolling gets boring when you are blocked too quickly.

modest epoch
#

I suppose I see what you're saying, it just doesn't bother me to report and move on
Fastest blocker in the west finger guns

heavy dawn
#

🔫 pew pew!

formal sequoia
#

Yeah, I'm already just Muting/Blocking almost everyone on a server.

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Sorta looking for interesting servers XD I found.... one.

heavy dawn
#

I find keeping the safety setting on Normal is good too. Or Maximum on a really weird world.

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Turn it to off only if you want to see all the really bad shaders, etc. It doesn't fix bad people,but it helps with getting more than 2fps on servers with a lot of people with bad models.

formal sequoia
#

New Bodham server, it's really nice.

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I wouldn't mind finding more relaxing places like that, maybe a nice fireplace in a log cabin.

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Snow outside, you know.

modest epoch
#

There's a nier automata map like that that I feel is pretty popular

heavy dawn
#

Oh, there's a really nice cabin like that. It's also the first place I experienced someone who sounded like a child running around asking if I was a trap. So there's that. :D

(You can play it in a private group or just world-hop until you find a non crappy copy, I found out.)

modest epoch
#

Or cafe leblanc for a more low-tempo version of the pug

formal sequoia
#

Cafe Leblance sounds nice.

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I love Persona.

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Despite being an old geezer.

vivid vale
#

ive been told people are having random kick issues today and so am i please fix this the avatar loading problem and world pics not showing 😭

jagged sparrow
#

Sushi makes me moist

formal sequoia
#

Yeah, why bother then?

languid beacon
#

Oh my god the new oculus system avatars are creepy as heck.

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If you try to make a female one they look like a guy in drag

heavy dawn
#

@formal sequoia We complain, but seeing yourself in a cute avatar tends to be worth it. So is hanging out with the cool people.

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Or playing a fun game.

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... then there's seeing other people enjoy stuff you made.

languid beacon
#

Why they gotta be trusted 🤔

ruby burrow
#

VR-Chat is a great big branching tree/web of friend groups. You've just got to find the right people, and sooner or later you'll find a good place and barely see the rest.

#

Honestly the bigger problem I've found, is having to pick and choose who to visit and who to spend time with. There's only so much time in the day, and a lot of great people.

formal sequoia
#

Living in one of the largest metropolises in the world... I feel ya.

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I have to juggle three boyfriends, pups, too many friends, and they all want to go out every night.

#

And then work and my own freelance work.

#

Sometimes.... I just wanna stay home and play games.

white prairie
#

I mean yeah Public rooms can quite cancerous due to folks trolling with the usual things but I mange to be part of Hip Hop discord that I'm in thanks to public rooms and now I know how to play music though VRChat.

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Vrchat can be fun with friends tho.

ruby burrow
#

Well, I more meant that I find it hard to find a bit of time to everyone I want to. Go to see one, and end up missing the window to hang out with two others.
But I do also know what you mean there too, Barta.
Fortunately that's one of the things that VR-Chat is very convenient for though, in that you're either logged into the game or you're not, and people are very accustomed to that.