#vrchat-general-2
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Just funny how you worded it. Made it sound like you don't know that's his name.
Owner of Tesla. And many other companies
That's his villain name. His real name is Steve.
Maye Musk, ah nvm she's 70
I'm just confused why you'd need to buy anyone else a PC to view your world.
Squishy, the people I want to join the world don't have the financial means for VR hardware
I'll have to get a company to invest
and if it's $200 x 1M units there's no way it's gonna happen
I know his name just not who he is
Elon to the rescue
A million people? ._.
well, ok maybe that's not realistic but let's say thousands
Who are these people even?
...
The first rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club
@_@
haha, they're just random people
I'm confused. T-T
not sure why it's pretty simple
Random thousands of people who need to see your room? What?
yes
Why would they even want that
I've been wondering why they'd want or need to see your room, but you've sold me on visiting it at least. Am stuck wondering what mysteries it must surely contain.
Will they though 🤔
I dont trust you though as i dont know why...
I think theyll want the free pc more
But I mean, you are aware that there's already millions of registered users on VR-Chat right?
is skinny and wants cake
Fellas.
yes, those users aren't the target audience
Plenty of potential visitors that you don't need to buy headsets for.
Dropping the Oculus.
Dont drop it itll break
I just bought a Vive with fullbody.
👏 congrats
It's not like museums buy their visitors cars to get to the museum with.
But cant you just use a 3d vieuwing app then
Get your world in there and tell people to use there phones to watch the stuff AR style?
My body is not full. Give me cake! 🍰
Enjoy your legs Wolf. 🙂
Kairos, what phones?
Just move your feet bro.
Also yeah, I was about to say there are platforms other than VR Chat you can host this stuff.

Any modern phone?
I have no need to move my feet
Oh i see you mean iphone etc.
Can even upload it to the Steam workshop to be viewable within Steam VR with no other game or app.
Samsung too
If you really want people to see it just make it it’s own unity game and give it away on x y and z platform
No, any phone. Not just iphone.
I find I can make the character dance by shimmying side to side enough hehe. I would love to dance with FBT though.
Not even directly... Just any phone that is strong enough 🤷
Plenty fit that list.
Modern doesnt = iphone only
It's doable that way but I'm wondering if it'll have the same effect
What effect are you looking for?
Your only other option is buying people pcs so uh
@cyan pond I mean, I've worked for a company who basically focused on AR and VR/AR games esclusively and you get grants fromt he government for that stuff.
Why would it not?
Only difference would (ignoring all the positives of not having a full Vr pc and ect). Is that you dont have any hands...
It's not a game, just don't want to say yet what exactly it is
Why not?
maybe its a million dollar idea, shrug
I originally assumed he was just talking about friends and family, so I was going to say just use a WMR and visit them with the headset.
Ideas are cheap
But I'm not sure what this is now.
A million dollar idea is worth nothing Fyi--
just haven't figured out how to implement
@worthy oracle do you know where it is? or the world name? Ive looked up Nek0s and stuff and it doesnt appear? or should i screach by username? If you have vr you can add me and show me (if you want, dont have to<3) Im yumimooni
A million dollar project manager is though-
I'm being to wonder if this is even something that should be hosted in vrchat....
If you need to buy pcs for people then irs not that great of an idea
There's already thousands of 3D scanned VR locations people can visit. Famous buildings and landmarks.
^ Yeah Sketchfab is full of them
I think I'm out of the loop here. What's the discussion?
This dude wants to buy people pcs
Right I was trying to avoid buying PC's
Lol @ruby burrow I can “drive” my work commute in vr
Aek wants to 3d scan him room
Throw it into VRC and show it to a small specific group of people...
small = thousands or hundreds of thousands
OH guys I figured out his idea
there will be huge demand
He wants to rp house with peole
@vocal shard added you :b
https://vrchat.com/community
can anyone else see the community guidelines?

@cyan pond you realize vrc servers cant hold that many right? In one tiny room?
whats the max?
error "The endpoint you're looking for is not implemented by our system." status_code 501
80?!?!?!
Don't worry Elire, it's all civil. Although we're thoroughly confused.
@vocal shard I see nothing
Bro your pc would crash with like 100 there
@cyan pond A thousand people is not in any way at all a lot. Its extremely small for a product. Thats like testing scale...
Yeah at the same time without making a new instance
Alright, then..
Maybe I should reach out to the VRC team and discuss w/ them
could be some way to expand the server footprint
80 would be an exceptional number of people in one place for this game.
But this is more going into how to ruin a project/company. What is a project and product then Vrchat so if you want to actually talk about it we can do it in #general-media
scale up?
They wont open it up so you can have 10000 in a room because your pc cannot handle it @cyan pond
It's rare to see more than 30. Beyond there the game tends to grind to a halt, unless you turn avatars off.
The limits are there so your system can breathe
meaning, my video card can't handle it?
I’ve been in a room with close to that max. It is a nightmare
Your everything cant handle it
I have to shower but this convo is so good..
It's more to do with your CPU.
It's actually helping a lot...
I've got to figure out how to run this damn thing on IBM Watson
Maybe you need to go back to the drawing board with your uh idea there
I love that you have big goals
But learning how VR works, how to make apps and ect is the first step of learning how to make a VR product...
You cant build a space car without understanding how to drive..
^
Agreed, but do you start without understanding if it's feasible?
No
you just told me my video/cpu etc cant handle it
How big is your room that you'd want to be able to fit thousands of people into it anyway? Would everyone be shrunken in scale?
Umm.. you still have to start first with experience
it's going to have to be hosted in times square on a super computer
Everyone had experience with the product they (plan to) build, one way or another
You dont start without knowing possibilities.. I didnt start making my movie thinking about even the current market and my chances
^
I think it's more that you might have a fundamental misunderstanding of what VR Chat is, or how these kinds of "exhibits" normally function.
Its never feasible though
Take this from a guy who wanted to start up his own start up but the more i learn about this stuff the more id rather not risk it.
This is not going to work unless you actually know what your doing. No one will give you money for no reason.
VRchat wont work with you unless it benefits them upfront... And how it looks all this would just cost them resources and work.
Less about the computing at this stage.
I approach these things like a college professor advised.
“How do you eat a elephant?”
“One bite at a time”
Learn something new everyday even if it’s one thing
I don't, i used the product about a year ago
For movie making I had to learn Fooley, Directing, Producing, studying beyond whaf I even knew was the norm, and that even includes learning the interior about pcs
You also have to observe the current market situation, after which you decide on whether this market is suited for your product or not.
I just don't have a good grasp of the technical limitations
Then you need to study them
Then learn and study first...
You need to study everythig even SLIGHTLY related, take it from someone tryna start up and indep company
I think you've kind of shined a light on the fact that my idea isn't going to scale to thousands/millions
Can I ask again how big is your room that you'd want or expect to be able to fit thousands of people into a virtual representation of it anyway? Would everyone be shrunken in scale?
they wouldn't all enter at the same time
And when you say "room" do you mean a room inside a house, or something more abstract?
Ah. Thought so.
You could definitely make a prototype in vrchat
Aek. VR Chat is instanced.
You can have infinite instances of the same world. Each instance is limited to 80 max (20 to 30 max in terms of typical practical performance limits).
so it scales out in instances of 80?
Have you ever played or watched VR-Chat? ^ ^;
yeap
Its your product / idea / service Aek.
Do your proper research man, we are right now making your thing instead 😂
But have you observed the various popular worlds with people in them, like the Great Pug for example
Any time you visit "The Pug" for example, there are dozens of copies of that world existing separate to the one you're in.
huh? of course they run on servers
Instances
Nope its a seperate room Aek, thing of the universe. Lets say each planet can fit 80 people. You cant speak to anyonr from a diff planet, youre stuck to thr 80, but lets also say all planets are identical. Thats vrchat. @cyan pond
where else would they be running? this isn't like bitcoin mining
I just read up and saw IBM watson and I'm baffled by whatever aek wants to make. LOL
Lol
Watson is fun to use for free though. You can make your own categorization engines super easy.
Rae: understood but aren't the instances running on servers?
You can have 10000 people in thr world, in instances (planets) of 80. So they cannot communicatr with eachother
there's a limit to the # of instances based on the # of serers sitting in the MS datacenter
Noo theres no limit on the number if instances
or AWS wherever it is
But the people inside the instances.
Theres one big server, okay? Instances, are versions of the same world that can hold an x amount of people
Tbh rn i wonder if anyone chatting here knows what they are speaking about...
So many half true's and half wrongs
Even so, I don't think vrchat is the place to promote a product. You're not even allowed to advertise in your worlds
wait so we cant promote sprite cranberry? wtf
So you can have 5000 people in your world, but only 80 in each instance, like a school and their classroom limits
bs im taking this up to corporate
Well, in fairness I did say I'd disuss with the VRChat owners i'm not promoting anything
Lol
I didn't even want to give details about the idea
I believe that's old news, wrong?
Im showering now because this is too weird 4 me
It was actually really helpful, thanks for the input
I'm not sure you're really given any details still to be honest. ^ ^;
I'm going to reach out to them
i still dont even understand
Right now I'm imagining someone 3D scanning their bed room, and wanting to show the world it.
That's all I've got.
Yeah that's what i got out of it
"Finally I can show off all my loli figures.."
there's nothing interesting in my bedroom
Legends actually recreated his bedroom in vrchat
Is it against TOS to charge a fee for entering private worlds?
I think he was referring to 3D scanning himself and then creating an avatar from said scan result 
yes @cyan pond
yes it is aek
@cyan pond No charge though.. but you need a friend's invite..
That said, it'd be against the rules to charge for private instances
I've been tempted to try the same. And get it to scale with my avatar. I've drawn my room out inside the game with the 3D pens before. Which is fun being able to dive onto the bed and have everyone see it accurately.
I dont want to dive into bed with my headset on my face
Thats how ima get a broken nose
ive considered making my bedroom into a world
then i realized how little room there would be
So listen, when this idea takes off i'm coming back to say I told ya so.
I remade my room in game, but then went in with my avatar and everything felt bigger. Lol
@cyan pond please do
haha
please lmao
It's also worth mentioning Aek, that if the world was left as private, you would need to personally create every instance, and invite every guest manually, from within the game.
smol Jamie 
like that guy who claimed the oculus quest would outsell every other vr headset
Squishy, minor details !
I should totally get to scanning these robots i got at work and school
Make them a proper moddel and then using them
To get any relevant number of visitors in, it'd need to be public.
Also keep in mind I dont think vrc will make any big changes to how it works for you
Squishy you wanna go in on this 50/50? I can pay you in my own virtual currency
A core pillar of how the product will work.
'Just a minor detail'
This convo hurts me on more then one level btw-
This past few months I’ve really been digging into the trigger system. Really changing how I make worlds.
Caan dm vrc all I want about how sneezing should be a default emote
They wont do it
10,000 aek's per week
I remember when I thought the only thing id have to study for my movie was art
HAh
Fun times..
Such wild brains 
Btw Aek how old are you even if you got such big ambitions
9
,lkmnjm,nhbj,khgb

You sure?
Are... we being trolled. ._.
@cyan pond Are you sure about that?
Lol well you got plenty of time

You cant say that without knowing our ages
You sure bro 👵
positive
IRC started in 1988.
See, if I'm older I wouldn't want to admit it anyway. >_>
So it becomes an awkward thing to compare.
Could you atleast tell us your age so that we don't get dragged into this spindly world of Wonderland?
Or close to as its annoying
40s
I can believe it.
Hmm..
Is anyone else having issues with nothing loading in VRChat?
server prob ran outa memory, they just finished telling me it all runs on your pc lol
Uh no thats not the problem
Aek what is your current work field then?
more than memory contributes to servers dropping.
@fervent frigate try #user-support-old
Like you plan to make a full career switch?
@fervent frigate Try the steps in #vrchat-support first ;p
Kairos: are you greek?
ah ok, I'm in the IT field currently
which part of IT specifically do you specialize in
i just got something about database version 1 and version 2, what can i do with that?
or your job title would give a better idea
Still, lets move to #general-media guys.
hello
hi
Thanks I've tried the fixes and I'm still encountering issues. Moving to user-support
I need a faster computer lol. even with a 16 core processor it takes like 30 minutes to bake the lighting on my world haha.. Trying to get it under 200mbs..
Have you checked out bakery?
looking for mute people to play with
Bakery?
Yes it’s a gpu lightmapper
Yeah.. could help, even with 16 cores at 3.2GHz - still pegs at 100% when baking.
What cpu lol
Its a Xeon E5.
No, Its a tower.
Ah
128 GBs of ram.
A quick google search puts that processor at between $1000 to $3000.
Fancy.
Well for some reference. My bakes on my i5 4460 took 20-25 minutes but 3-5 minutes on my 1050ti using bakery
Wait, I didn't have the actual model number when I searched...
I have a duel socket Mobo, I wanna get a second.
My processor is a few years old. but it gets the job done.
"Recommended Customer Price $4,616.00"
Lol
I didn't pay anywhere near that
I thought the xeon was a worse laptop version so this is news to me.. ive been memeing it for awhile
I use it in a professional manner, its not like I use it for just web browsing and games.
Not a mainstream processor either way. Perhaps hence the weird varied prices I'm seeing.
Yeah there are tons of xeons
Being kinda old tho, and I bought it second hand from the DOD its not as fast as I'd like it to be
Wrong tool for light baking I guess.
My world is huge, over 200mbs and takes minutes to walk from one side to another so that kinda makes it take a bit longer
Must be amazing for it's intended niche though at least.
I use most of it to host my website and such
Man theres so much to pcs eek
Your lightmaps must be huge
Oh yeah, same as anything else there's a crazy amount of it.
But it's not like you need to know every CPU out there.
Lol almost 300 lightmaps
Just the ones related to your interests.
I have to learn pcs for my movie, not to a big extent, but it is important
I felt accomplished when I got one of worlds into one 1k texture and one .5k texture
So I can learn whats the best to animate on and such and for what im doing for, So I know like intels stuff mostly, Like i3-i9 and the gens.. but not perfectly, nvidia like the 10xx, 16xx, and 20xx are straightforward
Squishy, i'm going into the think tank i'll be back with all the answers
But the second you ask me about ryzens im stumped
Hmm. Stuff like video editing does have it's own range of ideal processors if I understand correctly. Though I've not got any knowledge outside of the typical consumer and gaming oriented stuff.
Obviously you can still use anything for anything. Will just effect the time tasks take a bit.
But thing is like I also game, animate, anf video edit so itd need to be well rounded
Im getting 1660ti, Ryzen 2600 and 16gb ram, ideally id like to upgrade to 32gb ram when I begin animating, But im fine with everything else for now
That sounds really sensible and well rounded to me at least.
Ideal cost to performance ratio for most people.
Ram is very expensive.. the 128 GBs of ram I have was the most expensive component by far.
Well if you're buying that much sure. xD
Its for VMs - ram based VMs are much much faster than SSD or M.2 based.
Indont need more than 32
Wait... yikes. Since when did 16gb of ram cost £75 to £100?
90% of people don't need more than 16
I swear it used to be cheaper than that...
If yall know what pre rendering is, what is that mainly on, ram, cpu, or gpu
hi
Like a memory cache thing in editing programs
My old laptop was terrible with it, couldnr watch an animation in my program for even 5 seconds because itd run out of.. something
Well, it depends if its hardware accelerated but it will pre-render then dump to ram for scrubbing
so depends on the software but you might have been running out of ram.
@unique mauve Toonboom and sony vegad
I had 8gb ram, i3 old gen idk which, and idk what gpu.
I with VR chat didn't have this soft cap/Target of 200MBs... lol I have to make choices on details for everything I want to add
ever just delete system 32 by mistake?
not by mistake no
i did it once because i was curious
Thats not an accident
My new laptop though is an i7 7k 8gb ram with an ssd and a 1050 and sony vegas works 10x better.. but I havent used toonboom yet
What do you mean by soft cap of 200MBs
Anyone know why im not able to make a vrchat account on the website?
what do people call it when you keep pressing forward to fly through the air? I know some people call it stutter step, but, ive heard a different name for it before too, anyone know?
Dashing ?
I always heard gliding
@stray jackal #vrchat-support
Hmm.. All I could guess is air bouncing.
Ive called it gliding tooo I was taught thats the name
Air bumping? Airstep bouncing?
I guess ill try there ty
I call it gliding as well
@opaque hawk Seems to be frowned upon to have maps larger than 200MBs and the public uploading form says you have to have a good reason for being larger than 200MBs, plus it takes some people a LONG time to start a large world like that which is a turn down getting your world to be popular.
But isn't gliding a continuous forward motion with minimal altitude loss?
This isn't gliding
Got you KT
Gliding is how I usually refer to it. Sometimes just "flying", though that's obviously less accurate.
I dunno... it could be airskipping.
Interruptions in altitude loss due to small movements
One friend referred to it as "Squishy's doing their Mary Poppins impression again" on account of the long skirt my original avatar had.
God I can't wait till I get the trust rank of User >.> haha

hello. what chat do i go to for help with making an avatar?
Just played for the first time. Very fun game.
Great to hear!
Welcome ❤
You need a VRChat account instead of Steam and I believe you just hang out in worlds, add people, and just play the game and you'll rank up eventually
If you go into Vrchat and settings there should be an option to 'upgrade account' which will allow you to make a VRchat account and still keep everything like friends/avatars/worlds. It'll just transfer to your VRChat account so basically linking
You can rank up on steam but I'm pretty sure it takes a very long time and caps at User
Yo, I'm trying to make an intro for a vrchat documentary about joining a cult. Do any of you know some worlds that are noir-ish? Maybe black and white? Maybe I'll just throw words that I'm thinking of out.. Sad? Distant? Alone? Anxious? Maybe just a dark room with a spotlight?
@modern sand are the knuckles controllers supported yet or will be? On release? Instructions?
I believe from the test video they showed a few months ago, they were working with the knuckles. They snapped to the gestures similar to rift touch, using real hand gesture positions, but it didn't have full finger tracking yet. Although i hope they do add that. They have been working with the knuckles, so let's hope
If they work with the vive I may pick the knuckles up
Yeah I'm sure they do. All the other people who had them already used them with the vive, and it uses the same tracking
does anyone know how to make vrchat less laggy on oclous? yes i have low vr, yes my computer is vr ready, and ive put my ovlous on low settings
you using steamvr?
Steamvr is a pain in my ass so I just use the Oculus store version.
Maybe internet is throttled right now?
Force reduce resolution in steam vr settings
id say just avoid steamvr completely. For some reason my headset always looks like its melting in that shit.
my unity isnt letting me upload avatars just says says clear cache and player prefs
just turn off the motion smoothing and it won't melt forehead
^
I personally like being a anime girl.
Hi
@high kayak Because there are much more anime girl avatars oppose to male, male ones are harder to make
welcome
I like being RemasteredEBoy
I joined this game so I could be a anime monster girl. I succeeded
Why would people want to look like a gender that they are not?
I don't have any problem with it.
I found a avatar that's Male that can also do the music thing
I don't have a problem with it either, I'm just perplexed by it.
I'm currently going into the mmd nightclub
I've played as a different race than my own too. I don't feel like its all that weird
I've also seen furry anime girl avatars.
Oh god
I think it comes down to some people like cute things and would prefer to look cute than normal
Again, I'm not judging.
Oof
Which gender uses VRChat the most? Boys or girls?
Its equal
But hey, some girls may be using a voice change and guys may be using one to
And yes, I am aware that there would be people using VRChat that aren't male or female but transgender or something like that.
Yeah
theres more boys, used to be like MOSTLY boys, now its pretty even,
I'd say it's pretty even
Male and female aren't the only genders anymore, but they are the only traditional genders.
Tbh I though girls would be more popular because some may see it as a way of finding guys
I feel like it does lean towards males, but its gender split is close to even
The other genders are still valid but just non-traditional.
Yeah
I intend to make my avatar match my real life gender.
#general-media please
Literally every girl I know on VRChat tends to either not speak at all, or never visit public worlds because thirsty dudes crowd around them.
If anyone wants to join me I'm at mmd nightclub
Thirsty? But it's VR. Your Avatar doesn't need to drink to live.
Lol
That's what you mean by thirsty right?
Which is first of all not appropriate and second of all not possible in VR, and rightly so.
VR may not be real life but people will still judge you for what you do so a level of maturity is expected.
MK8, did you not see my ping in the other channel?
Now I see it.
Thanks
My bad.
hey, i cant see anyone else ingame. anyone else having that issue?
Update VRChat
Restart your steam
okay, it didnt update, but it works again ^^
Awesome!
Hey guys!
Hello
Hello
I like friends
if i had a dollar for every russian ugandan knuckles ive seen, i probabbly would end up being richer than bill gates
Have you tried restarting vrchat that normally fixes it for me
Try the steps in #vrchat-support else
mines doing it too
servers dying
I can I just tried
for some
The game can be so broken sometimes
Ehhh hopefully they see ths
Try restarting your router if the steps in #vrchat-support failed
didn't do anything else and it seems to have fixed itself
Ye its fixed now
what was the error
Windows builder error something like that it happens quite often too
nya~
nya
Are you misbehaving again
no i was bullying
They had some extra messages after your last one, I removed those too.
What is this nya
nya is the sound a cat makes
No cat goes meow
^
in japanese
🤔
gorogoro and nyanya
also, not really VRchat related so to #general-media
Cool '^'
It's the sound of happiness
I need to get with the times
I nya in vrc often
Just cleared cache, but still getting an issue where nothing is loading in vrchat
What do you mean nothing is loading?
I open the game and it sits at the loading screen with 0.00%
Did u try beating ur pc
Been sitting now for 15 minutes
Have you tried reinstalling yet?
Maybe an update?
Could give that a shot
Restart Steam and see if there's an update that just hasn't gone through
if that doesn't work, try a fresh install
Trying to uninstall on oculus, didn't uninstall.
Now whenever i click launch nothing happens
oh wait, now its delayed as fuck lol
so now its installing
Does a 3D Porky or Pigmask model exist in VRChat? I don't find one
will let you know if anything is still broken
Last night
There was an update Friday, but if it was fine earlier today, idk
Hmmm
You having the same issue as Rollthered where nothing is loading?
Yep
You launching off Oculus or steam?
Are other ppl having issues
Issue started happening after uploading a new avatar
Made sure none of the materials were using unbaked substance materials, as I know that would cause similar problems.
Going to have to delete the avatar in hopes that it stops bricking my client.
Yea hopefully that does it lower the spects for vrchat
It doesn't really bother me though if that is the issue. I have 270 avatars in my menu to keep me busy anyways. 😛
Been testing out flying systems on avatars that I am working on.
Some armatures seem to affect it pretty hardcore so i'm uploading multiple different rigs to see what it is.
270 😧
3 years will do it.
I have 7 lol
Ye, watch those shoot up to like 20 by the end of next month.
making content for this game gets addicting.
You start to find out cool stuff that nobody has done before, and before you know it you have hundreds in ur menu.
I have no clue how 🤭 I want to learn
Keep experimenting and making mistakes. Its the best way to learn imo.
the most fun too
I've never really gotten into it myself, part because I've never put aside the time to learn, part because I know it's the sort of thing I'd put an unhealthy amount of time into haha
I would go for it.
Its really good for when you got stress like me.
Takes ur mind off stuff.
I wana try one day ima msg u 🤗 and tel me what to download cause I can’t now I’m at work ;,(
Oh I will do that ty 😚
And also another good thing to do is watch a lot of tutorials unrelated to VRChat but that also still deal with unity
That's how I learn most of the cool stuff
Blender guru is a good channel for stuff revolving around 3D modeling
I swear i would make the weirdest stuff
Brackeys also did a good tutorial on PBR (Photorealism)
I just got my leg trackers last night I love it ! 🤗
One thing I would really love here is to either have some sort of curated tutorials list, or have someone create a load of tutorials with the most up to date and correct information
I wish i could use leg trackers lol
@winged igloo I have that sorta thing in my discord.
Could recommend that to the admins and I will be glad to post there
Lots of really obscure yet informational stuff that I find that ends up helping me the most.
There used to be a #tutorials channel but it got removed for some reason, I think they opted to focus on user-to-user support with all the support and help channels they have here
but not sure
I've asked about it before but I'm not sure if it got seen, I'll ask again
Ye for sure.
Because it could be really helpful, especially for newer users
Funnily enough the best tutorials ive ever watched had nothing to do with vrchat
but they helped me out so much
VRChat specific tutorials never really touch on Unity's core function's it seems.
They just explain what buttons to push, and never really what they all do.
Or how to use them even more.
Understanding how Blender and Unity work in general before getting into the specifics is what's really needed to make sure people actually understand what they're doing
And the sort of thing that should be featured on a curated tutorials list
Another big one is shaders. Some people really don't like using someone else's work. Even if it goes un noticed by most.
Amplify and Shaderfourge tutorials basically made me love VRChat even more.
Iv'e made really cool surface shaders for my models that would have otherwise looked bland and uninteresting if it were something everyone else used.
Which being unique sometimes is worth the extra work. It add's to the hobbyist aspect of the game. Sorta like how people spend hours in any other character creation engine in any other game except a bit more complicated as it deals with some code.
If I said I haven't inspired anyone I would probably be lying. Countless people have inspired me to do the exact thing I am doing right now. Its really just about making cool stuff for people to enjoy at this point for me.
That's kinda why I feel VRChat is more about the art.
That's awesome!
Ye, would totally recommend getting into making stuff for sure. Even if its just small things like props and retextures.
Modeling is kinda my secrett passion tbh. I don't do it too often though because inspiration is hard to find.
But just as much how people like drawing or playing an instrument. Its pretty much the same.
Would be awesome to have an event where different avatar creators could showcase their creations, sort of like a fashion show, but for avatars
I think that would be really good for the community as well.
It would make people talk more about cool stuff they have made and maybe inspire others.
Iv'e seen some really neat stuff in my own circle of friends, would be neat to see even more of that.
Could be a community run thing, could also be a way for some creators to show off their creations to promote commissions or something
Eret
There where loads of shows like that but with that removing some avatar things the community kinda stopped with it.
They where also closed from the public because of lagg ..
Well nothing large scale because I've not heard of any apart from Virtual Market 2
Ow yea nothing close to that size
and that was almost entirely focussed on the asian/japanese community
so anyone who didn't speak Japanese may have been considerably confused (myself included)
I just wanna finally figure out inspiration for my next revision of my main model.
I'm aiming for Toonami levels of quality here haha
I may have forgotten to say, that there were also options for different languages
There may have been, but it was hardly promoted outside of the Asian community
I wanna make an avatar that look's as if it could have its own tv show. Really hard to create a character like that.
but i'm gonna hop into vrc, it was nice chatting.
❤
Hoii
see ya mate!
🙏
Yeah.. there weren't much news on VM2 outside Japan, in spite of its explosive populaarity..
I couldn't get to check the other booths due to my laptop's tendency to boot me out of the instance.
I'm not sure what VM2 was really like or how they organised it as I only really found out about how big it was when it was already too late to check it out.
But it would be awesome if something like that of similar scale could be organised for the English speaking community
Speaking of which, they're planning for English Support for the upcoming Virtual Market 3
Still no announcement date, but they're planning on it
Would be easier to work with their already well organised system to offer and promote more English-friendly support and accessibility than it would be to start something completely separate
Mhm.. that's what I see in them, tbh.
Like, I was very interested in what they had done once I found out about it, but I found it so challenging to work out what was actually going on as I needed to run everything through Google Translate
That's the issue that they're trying to solve.. but I still can't help but wonder what solution would they implement.
The best I would presume is to request for an English speaker who is fluent in Japanese.
Just use Google translate Camera function on mobile ;p
Live translations then
Hoiii
Not really the most permanent solution..
Swamo ate my snacks and wont bye me more
There are loads of native English speakers who have learned Japanese. It is important that the English used in promoting the event is not "broken English" as in badly translated from Japanese to English
I also know there are people from Japan in VRChat that can speak both English and Japanese, and could probably translate them too.
well yeah but English and Japanese is the worlds hardest languages
True
One solution could be for a Japanese-English bi-lingual to do the translation and for a native English speaker to make sure that it is all clear and logical
@vocal shard I was surprised that English is harder to learn for Japanese than it would be for Japanese to English speakers.
Indeed
One of the staff on our server is Chinese and his English is not always the best, so whatever he writes we just clean up into perfect English if he wants to make an announcement
my Japanese teacher is chinese
That aside, yeah.. There are a few bilinguistic Japanese I could ask
True
Does KeiroKamioka ring a bell?
Not to me
no
srry
There is a separation between the Japanese and English speaking communities and I think it is important to try to reduce that separation
whatever it takes
^
This should be a top priority, especially for VRChat
Ahh, shit.. yeah. It's gonna need some thinking though
Plus a month of population survey and optionally, interviews
bilinguals are the key
the closer the two communities, there may also be more interest in learning the other's language
I could forsee this being a well-understood language somewhere in the future, though right now.. not many people show awareness about the Japanese language, nor its writing system
All they could think of when they see this “英語“ are moonrunes
English is the language of the internet, if you understand English you can see most of what the internet has to offer, Japanese on the other hand just gives you access to understanding Japanese internet
And learning Russian allows you to get free content 👀
Right.. but this is more of a language barrier issue
Something that I want to see being broken down as time passes by, not have one language be rendered extinct
But how would one do that, the languages are so different
??
Images could be a good way of learning a new language
I guess
ty :p
Japanese is mostly spoken only in japan
There’s a reason it’s not a “popular” language as opposed to something like mandarin
I mean, Mandarin is pretty much only spoken in China
And Norwegian, and Dutch, and Tagalog, and Indonesian, and Malaysian
What?
I don't think they speak those languages in China
lol
I was meaning to say that those languages are spoken in their respective countries
there are too many to list then
Well i meant that more in the sense that more than a billion people speak mandarin
English, French, Spanish and Portuguese are the languages I'd say are the most wide-spread, note that I said "wide-spread" as in global spread, not just one country's population
Arabic is very up there as well
I guess I was looking at it from more of a business view, that’s how school made me think of a language being “useful”
I mean, if you want to do business with China, learn Mandarin
Basically, to do business with other people of different languages, you gotta have to understand their language
It should be YOU who adapts to them
Don’t mean to sound rude, but that’s pretty obvious
Interpreters are extremely common (if not completely necessary)
hi
👋
H
people posting pepe emotes or emotes against the rules
i dont really know why they are disabled
Some emote spam happend a long time ago, so they disabled emotes and reactions
And left us with these

🤷
99% chance it won't be approved
i like the crying, screaming minion
Emotes are about famous youtuber/mods
It's in FAQ, but that info is very outdated as far as I know
They didn't approve zarnis emote :sad:
I made these 3:

They're still lookin good if you ask me
Wouldn't blame you if you didn't know who any of them were any more though
These three on the other hand..

Hey guys, it's me, world renown chef, Gordo Femboy
this is bait
if you’re really him, what’s the main ingredient in spaghetti
sorry this isn't meta enough for me
Gotta love #vrchat-livestreams.


hey so uh
my avatar was stolen
theres a picture with it and people have multiple discords leaking avatar ids
change it to private and reupload
Looks like they have the unity files, have you given them out to anyone?
nope
People can still save the cached model data too...
So they can steal the unity files?
Setting it private stops casual copying but someeone who is determined will be able to copy any asset in the game. UnityPackage files aren't exactly fort Knox.
They can get the unity package files too (apparently no authentication is required for those)
well thats a big yikes
I'm pretty sure you broadcast the link to the api for it everytime it's loaded
And unpacking the avatar file is probably quite easy
Even if you needed authentication, it's in your cache the second the avatar loads on your machine
damn dude thats fucked tbh
you can get it out of the vrchat api, which most discords that rip stuff link to the vrca file
best is to not use it in a public world
i'm pretty sure this isn't a topic for this discord but
i don't have an emoji to make this sentence less serious
if you see someone in your avatar, you can report the user to moderation@vrchat.com. just supply a username and pray that he gets banned
will do
Dont just supply a username as they need proper proof
yeye i can do pictures
most ripped stuff will have either the same pic or a different one. better proof is show avatar author
if it has their name, then they ripped it
anyone else having issues with avatars not loading?
yeye i have
!online
There are 6308 users in VRChat currently
The server have some problems with downloading contents.
vrc is weird right now yeah
😩
Im just gunna assume the reason I cant upload anything is a server issue
Couldn't change avatars in the game either
Can we be aware when the game work again?
can things just work for once?
can confirm, issues changing/uploading avatars
website also returns error code 500
amazon’s cloud servers are rip atm ...
time to investigate better global options
instead of single area ones
But I want to have my 180+ ping
I'm so used to it that anything lower will make the game feel weird
I mean, Amazon AWS is a pretty good cloud provider. Might be something else going on.
Avatars loading very slow ingame, some avatars fail loading and turn red, can anyone else confirm?
yep
noice
also teleports away sometimes
anyone else not able to upload their avatar atm?
ok i was worried my computer was on the fritz
2. No way to dedicate full 10Gb connection to one server if needed like DB servers cluster, Amazon can't do this currently
quote from 2013 mmorpg forum
everyday this happens with servers, its becoming a common trend
Tru
keeps hope for a Ready Player One game to come out soon
^
basically what vrc want to happen (have all data to its single dedicated server)
so a major server, and no buffer or rainy day servers? thats a major crash waiting to happen
Ready player juan >~>
Olay
time to implement valve’s dedicated server clients inside vrchat ;D
starts tapdancing with spanish trumpet and acustic guitar
oh mah gad
Wut?
x3
that so pecking c o ol
We gotta get ready for SAO >~>
Just let my lawyer know before I enter the game
x3 yuup
Gonna be like SAO abridged when I am done with this
Same
Vrc in fullbody already feels like ready player one
No >~>
You have sum strap thingys
RPO uses. Well
Remember those ppl fighting the air
Strap thingies
here's the man who's making vrc be glitchy right now super creepy https://i.imgur.com/KNhotRN.png
Thats nightmare worthy
Nightmare indeed
we have a blue guy a red guy and now a white guy
Where yellow >~>
hmm
that's a blue man love pillow
Anyone else been seeing a low-poly blue Touhou (Cirno, I believe) character recently?
nah?
Damn, the servers are lagging. Now I can't gnome anyone via notifications.
Pan using mod tools, smh.
Am I?

i lost a new friend bcs of the servers
as soon as i disconected he was not on my friendlist anymore
rip :c
!cache
Cache reporting in
what was the code for it again lol
ded botto
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
ayyyy
Reminds me of that old video where some guy tried to do a similar selfpwn in Linux and it just... kept... running. Didn't die until he tried to run stuff that no longer existed. Kernel was in RAM, so was the GUI.
oof I just joined into an error world
Hehe... someone should make something like a platformer glitch world.
vrchat error parkour/platform world confirmed
reformatting drives...
monka
no u

Spies among us
im not a spy, im here to help
no u
..
The bot has evolved eyebrows, I feel our time here is limited
Me as welll
It was a good run while it lasted
now if you excuse me, ill go and delete sys32 from the vrc servers
xD
my friend said hes gonna cry cause the server problems XD
can i hug him
Dang, guess vrc bot did it after all
VRC still lagging and all ?
Dunno, maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Hope it stops I wanna play tonight :lul:
is any one having problems with loading avatars?
translucent red homer simpson
Oh so there are still problems great
stuck with blues two of the people i know in vrchat they switched avatars and there stuck in blue but we changed worlds so i am going to see if that changed any thing
Are people whom I've blocked supposed to be able to friend request me? I keep getting several a day from this guy on multiple accounts that I've blocked already.
block only works for the account you block, doesnt work on alts
you would have to block the alts sadly
You can still friend through a block.
Yes. :)
maybe they want to friend someone they dont see 😛
You can even have someone friended and then block em, it doesnt delete em
my friend blocks me whenever we are same room and hes talking ptsd
serious side, i wonder if they are using a client that shows they have them blocked and can still send friend requests. Wonder if vrchat verifies server side that the user has them blocked before they recieve the friend request.
It does not.
Yup
So does that mean I could basically report them as that is proof of using a client?
@sullen olive No because you don't need a client.
Howdy! ^.^ New, but exploring VRChat and whatnot.
Guess I'll have to live with these friend requests sitting there instead of declining them daily then 😅
👀
@sullen olive Is Misery sending you friend requests again?
Yes, she bulli me
Bless everyone’s soul
Huh, there sure are a lot of rude children in this game....
🍕
@formal sequoia and a lot of rude adults
Hey when will invited in vrchat get fixed.
It’s in the air
The more people that upvote the bug report for it, the more likely it is to get worked on (likely): https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/invite-request-notifications-do-not-show-up
Huh..... Then what's the draw if the community is garbage? Literally all I've experienced so far is three little teenage Americans wearing little anime girl AVs chirping me.
anyone else haveing issues logging in?
Maybe the entire community isn't garbage based on the anecdote, and you need to just find friends you gel with.
Not everyone is going to be right for you to talk with and have a fun time with.
Be open for new people, dont be a 'grown up' and dont be scared to let yourself go.
There are loads of fun people, just takes a second to find them and be willingly to accept them
Fair enough. It's likely just the first few people I met that were.... Less than wholesome.
Like, would kick out of my business and ban for life material XD
You can always report those people if they broke the rules 😉
I mean, they were calling me fag and being discriminatory.... And I wasn't even speaking and was just cycling through the default public AVs.
But I don't care that much.
It doesn't leave a game all about socializing with a good rep/image though.
Then make the community a better place by reporting them. It does sound like you care, so be the change you want to see in the community and help clean it up a bit?
@formal sequoia Yup. That's pretty much VRC. But there are nice people. Just move on from the public hub world as quickly as possible. Or be ready for the worst childish people around.
I pretty much turn on OBS and screen record people being homophobic or racist (or both)
If people are doing that sort of thing, the only way they can be removed from the game is by reporting them. As much as the devs may want to be always aware of everything that's going on, that's not physically possible
They're usually doing it for attention. I'll just make it one step harder like Mobi says.
SL might be a bit more isolated.
Too much time spent online XD
VRChat is like... almost like a pack-in game for VR
Ohhhh, I see.
So you get every rich entitled kid who thinks its funny to be racist
That's awful! ^.^
Or every angry 20+ something who has been sucked in by that trap 😛
But there are a lot of nice people too, TBH. I've had a lot of really wholesome experiences. It just took time.
Alrighty, well I'mma...... stew on it. I've got a few AVs I'm waiting to upload.
Basically the strategy is, take down some evidence, block immediately, and move on.
In the meantime, I'll explore.
I make a lot of custom content in SL, hence why I was interested in VRChat.
Neat, that's what I like about VRC as well.
Being Unity3D based I already knew unity so it was nice.
It's a cross-section of humanity like any other game, with all the wonders of being able to interact in VR and all the drawbacks of less-than-stellar individuals who want to be terrible because they're "anonymous"
"Like any other game"
So many people here say that. It's like a mantra they keep telling themselves. 🙃
It is essentially true when it comes to community though, no?
Usually it's far easier to avoid awful people in other games. In VRC the ONLY thing to do in most worlds is, uh, interact. People who are bad at it or who are there for trouble have an outsized effect.
Also they're more bored / have less to do than just troll
Of course, trolling gets boring when you are blocked too quickly.
I suppose I see what you're saying, it just doesn't bother me to report and move on
Fastest blocker in the west finger guns
🔫 pew pew!
Yeah, I'm already just Muting/Blocking almost everyone on a server.
Sorta looking for interesting servers XD I found.... one.
I find keeping the safety setting on Normal is good too. Or Maximum on a really weird world.
Turn it to off only if you want to see all the really bad shaders, etc. It doesn't fix bad people,but it helps with getting more than 2fps on servers with a lot of people with bad models.
New Bodham server, it's really nice.
I wouldn't mind finding more relaxing places like that, maybe a nice fireplace in a log cabin.
Snow outside, you know.
There's a nier automata map like that that I feel is pretty popular
Oh, there's a really nice cabin like that. It's also the first place I experienced someone who sounded like a child running around asking if I was a trap. So there's that. :D
(You can play it in a private group or just world-hop until you find a non crappy copy, I found out.)
Or cafe leblanc for a more low-tempo version of the pug
ive been told people are having random kick issues today and so am i please fix this the avatar loading problem and world pics not showing 😭
Sushi makes me moist
Yeah, why bother then?
Oh my god the new oculus system avatars are creepy as heck.
If you try to make a female one they look like a guy in drag
@formal sequoia We complain, but seeing yourself in a cute avatar tends to be worth it. So is hanging out with the cool people.
Or playing a fun game.
... then there's seeing other people enjoy stuff you made.
Why they gotta be trusted 🤔
VR-Chat is a great big branching tree/web of friend groups. You've just got to find the right people, and sooner or later you'll find a good place and barely see the rest.
Honestly the bigger problem I've found, is having to pick and choose who to visit and who to spend time with. There's only so much time in the day, and a lot of great people.
Living in one of the largest metropolises in the world... I feel ya.
I have to juggle three boyfriends, pups, too many friends, and they all want to go out every night.
And then work and my own freelance work.
Sometimes.... I just wanna stay home and play games.
I mean yeah Public rooms can quite cancerous due to folks trolling with the usual things but I mange to be part of Hip Hop discord that I'm in thanks to public rooms and now I know how to play music though VRChat.
Vrchat can be fun with friends tho.
Well, I more meant that I find it hard to find a bit of time to everyone I want to. Go to see one, and end up missing the window to hang out with two others.
But I do also know what you mean there too, Barta.
Fortunately that's one of the things that VR-Chat is very convenient for though, in that you're either logged into the game or you're not, and people are very accustomed to that.