#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 772

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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i do love the volt tho

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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To say it's just avatars is just not true.

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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the volt is pretty good by default

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rph0bWwAIZ34t?format=jpg&name=medium Stolen meme from twitter (under VRC's post about this)

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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most of the time it is, you cant say the box is laggy

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I mean it's a nice map visually, I just happen to lag poorly along with a lot of others on it and I doubt it's a coincidence

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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I can though

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Go into one corner

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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some worlds get memory leaks and lag over time

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I started lagging so bad in murder once for like no reason

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Look at others
Congratz- If they put a cube in the middle so you dont render everything it would be leaps better

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Lol 1 of my mute friends was banned for hate speech

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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render? theres like 5 planes and a toggle mirror

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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didnt you talk about this a few days ago?

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Be careful stealing memes Oclac, the meme police might get you like they got my friend LOL

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Hm

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Im a badboy 😎
So the cops can lock me up for it

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:03 PM

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If you're not rendering the avatars they're not as big of an issue.

tidal aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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IK still does stuff even if you're not rendering the avatars

cinder wharf Mar 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Remember. Jail is just a Meme Away, A Meme Away, A Meme away.

glacial sparrow Mar 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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What

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Big cube. Animator component.

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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im happy and dreading getting full body cause imma have to fix up all my avatars

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Did they turn off emotes again: vrpill

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:05 PM

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yes

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its very emotional

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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-.-

cinder wharf Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Can't wait to see all the memes about Article 13 in VRChat.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Ofc- An mention happened to chat is fairly disabled 👀
But time for me fix one annoying clipping problem on my avatar before i get angry and give up on the others~ 👋

tidal aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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yeah I can't wait to see nothing either

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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"Fixed issue where tracking could be confused by three children using VR from within a trenchcoat"

cinder wharf Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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"Oi m8 you gots a license for that meme?"

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I found that from like the oldest docx by accident, and it makes me sit here like..what

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Imma make a "OwO" case with a usb drive, a business card, a pen, a bumper sticker, and much more >.>

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OH and many OwO passes for one free "OwO"

cinder wharf Mar 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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" Holy shit Is that an OwO reference?"

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:09 PM

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shrugs

median basalt Mar 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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So, when are we getting that improved IK system? Fullbody users still seem to be struggling a lot with their viewpoint detaching.

indigo fern Mar 27, 2019, 6:11 PM

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;-;

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same

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Hold on, wouldn't VRChat be exempt from the directive?
This was passed yesterday:

Upload filters must be installed by everyone except those services which fit all three of the following extremely narrow criteria:

* Available to the public for less than 3 years

* Annual turnover below €10 million

* Fewer than 5 million unique monthly visitors

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:12 PM

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what

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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VRChat is older than 3 years

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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No, wait. Nevermind. Misread.

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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whats that for?

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:13 PM

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article 13

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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We arent exempt... are we?

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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I don't think VRChat will be affected directly, but the surrounding content creators might be

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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If they do things for profit then yes.

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:14 PM

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vrchat doesn't make any money so we should be fine

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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VRChat is hosted in the US
and VRChat is free so they aren't making any money

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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VRChat is funded by investors though.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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@graceful pewter Thats not how it works though--

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@floral aspen Doesnt change anything

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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wait, content creators are in trouble? o.O

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Just read up on the law, watch a video and then talk please...
Spreading wrong information wont help

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:15 PM

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we'll have to see how youtube responds

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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@delicate perch "If platforms become directly liable for user uploaded content they will arbitrarily remove content based on their terms and conditions. As a result, many creators will see their content get blocked too. And, as less platforms survive the burden of this provision, creators will have less choice on where to share their creations."

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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What do you mean? VRChat won't be directly affected since it's hosted in the US. Now, if they want to continue providing access to EU players then they will probably have to comply in some form

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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It's bad and its good for content creators

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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okay good point @umbral reef just wasn't sure if investor funding constituted turnover

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I know things like google news will just pull out of the eu fully or not allow news places that dont work for free with

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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nah, being in the US doesn't exempt you

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Lose the EU market, gain the Quest market 👌

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@full badge Any company, non profit or what else has to follow these rules.
Smaller companies get more leeway but it still applies

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Its bad for people who create content and their main bases, is stuff that doesnt belong to them. But for people who do the same thing but its all 100% theirs, will benefit, but, overall I dont support it

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@primal oak i guess a its a good thing i dont have anything but one world public atm?

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I know just being in the US doesn't exempt you since VRChat is providing a service to EU players.

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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don't have any public worlds myself

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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currently it hasn't been incorporated into any national laws, and there's zero legal precedent to go on for potential cases

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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If you are in the US, EU doesn’t apply to you. You can service people in the EU all you want, you only risk the EU blocking your traffic. They can’t fine you.

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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can people stop fear mongering? >.>

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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It depends what your public world has. If it's just cubes and spheres then you're fine. If you're using assets from the unity store who knows

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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@weary bison We still got a voting round or more non veto round to go

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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well i make all my own stuff

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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probably best to continue in #general-media

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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And ofc the two year minimum waiting period

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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yeah

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Yeah lets move there.

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 6:18 PM

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like my OwO Case

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I just want the serious, non-meme response recommended avatar specs for quest so I can get started.

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:29 PM

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yeah that would be good to know as well

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considering my fursonas character design simple enough that it could fit on mobile heck I got it to fit legibly on an N64 model

clever osprey Mar 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Welp, guess I'm selling my Oculus Go then

opaque hawk Mar 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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@languid beacon same, I’m personally excited for the challenge of making quest ready avatars

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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yeah but that sounds like a fun challenge

alpine crater Mar 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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do we know the limitations if any yet for avatars used on quest?

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like, only good- or excellent-rated being available or shown

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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nope

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all we know is its coming to quest

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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5 polys boiiiis

glacial sparrow Mar 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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If it has modded beat saber and working vr chat I'm gunna buy it and I bet a lot of long time vr users, good games with that level of freedom and portability will be great

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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if we do not know but I'm guessing mobile phone quality

lunar shell Mar 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I'll buy it but I sure hope they don't downgrade the PC version.

opaque hawk Mar 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Shader gurus will have to make mobile friendly avatar shaders

alpine crater Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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what about unity's mobile shaders?

broken depot Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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heeeey

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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yeah we're probably going to have to use those

opaque hawk Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Should be more specific. Shaders specifically for the quest chipset

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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maybe there won't be any custom shaders

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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My unoptimized fur shader :c
And by 8K materials :c

pallid vapor Mar 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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No custom shaders I think is very likely. Probably just specific approved ones

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I can live without dynamic bones and custom shaders

alpine crater Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I don't mind the built in shaders

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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yup. I'm thinking no shaders and no dynamic bones

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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it'd be a shame to lose xstoon

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I cant live without my shader because anime + standard is scary

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Honestly my fallback looks better than my custom

floral aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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basic cubed shader would be enough for Quest

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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But for real- How with the higher end materials work?
The snapdragon 835 has everything for 4K but nothing above...

tidal aspen Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Yeah I'm expecting super simple shaders

alpine crater Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I have safety on blocking shaders for the vast majority of people and I don't notice until I manually show someone's full avatar

pallid vapor Mar 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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I'd still primarily develop my content for PC, but I think it'd be cool to make a set of mobile avatars and maybe a world for it

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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I chose my fallbacks to barely look any different

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Cubed/ or noe falling back to toon/lit with an inherited ramp texture is good enough

raven silo Mar 27, 2019, 6:45 PM

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going suck vrchat at fps 15 on quest lol

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:46 PM

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X doubt

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I wanted to say foveated rendering but quest has no eye tracking so I dunno

pseudo bobcat Mar 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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inb4 quest auto decimates avatars to 500 polys

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I mean it’s more likely than being low framerate

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Hey men

craggy tapir Mar 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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my partner is hopefully gonna get affiliate by friday and to celebrate him and freinds are gonna be drinking then if anyone wants to join them haha

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its gonna be random and stupid haha

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Where the fuck is @covert chasm

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We need to talk man

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Should not ping staff unless its an emercengy...

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Tuff shit it is an emergency

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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is it now?

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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And having questions about the new update isnt an emergency btw-

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Being realistic I expect mobile-friendly verified avatars being a thing

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I’m aware

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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are u at the hospital and your last wish is for a hug from tupper?

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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No

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I want a hug from tupper

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Lol an emergency

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:51 PM

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That’s not an emergency

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Yes it is

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Yeet nope

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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if you are dying that definately is an emergancy

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Well- Throw it in this chat as big odds we can solve it or confirm you really need a admin/dev

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I've never seen anyone tag them and it be an emergency

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I'd like to see my first though

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Well a (presumed) epileptic attack once

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I remember that

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Oh were they tagged

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I missed out on the discord tag then smh

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Expecting something like excellent status is required, but then a total texture memory limit as well

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Oof its only 8Pm
Im planned to play VR but im way to tired for it like always

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Lol quest won't be seeing many avatars

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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It’s nothing y’all can help with

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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why tupper? hes not even a dev of the game and he aint gonna show up

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Otherwise I’d ask y’all

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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He does show up sometimes but ive literally seen him be pinged a lot today, so I doubt hes checking in

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I've always wondered what's considered and emergency

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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You would be amazed what the community knows at times.. 👀

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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It’s not knowledge I’m after

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Or what they expect devs to do during one

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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An emergancy is when you get sneezed on

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Besides DC the person

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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@rigid crescent There server burning, a new exploit, people dying ingame and stuff

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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If your game doesnt function thats something people here can also fix, if yourehacked, etc, there are things you can do that dont involve tupper

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:55 PM

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And second like the eye stuff, footstep stuff and ect

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So fairly bad ones they dont want on there canny.io
And they are being used

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Yeah but those weren't admin tagged lol

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E z email tbh

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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hello@vrchat.com

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Well yea- They want those on email also ofc

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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quest be like:
https://imgur.com/FsdrJIw

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Im tempted to ping Pill as im sure he would love the meme

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:56 PM

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It Just Works

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Same thing, I’m not looking for help or knowledge

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Is someone hurt? All they can do is DC them.

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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DC?

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Disconnect

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:57 PM

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I need a dev

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Idc if it’s Tupper or not

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Tupper isnt a dev

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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a dev?

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Okay

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Who is

glacial sparrow Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Me

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Aev

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I think?

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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no

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Oh he's email guy he answered my emails

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Email them bro

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Gimme email

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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ron?

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Isnt it cubed, ron and system?

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Hello@vrchat.com I think

glacial sparrow Mar 27, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Why are you trying to fight a dev exactly

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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support@vrchat.com for support, hello@vrchat.com for general stuff

ruby needle Mar 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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questions and stuff would be support

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Gonna send the hello@vrc an e-vite to my birthday

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Someone better show up

ruby needle Mar 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Good luck

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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What if I emailed them about how I got sneezed on in vrc and im in distress

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 6:59 PM

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oh Noe would you mind forwarding this to pill, pretty please?
https://imgur.com/FsdrJIw

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iris

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:00 PM

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inb4 they show up and give you a ban as a present :c

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:00 PM

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vrcfrown

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 7:00 PM

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LOL

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Tweet it at pill

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E z

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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yeah tweet it at him

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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More vrchat on quest memes please

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Thank you

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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^

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Its that i dont have a minecraft account anymore else id make one

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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questtop

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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I'm loving these

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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on the way

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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wait guys I think the blocked avatars avatar has too many polys.. might not work on the quest

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gotta get lower poly than that

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/171678339231121408/560538966814752790/image0.png

ruby needle Mar 27, 2019, 7:03 PM

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low poly... low texture size / texture amount

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oh... and compatible shaders cirBaka

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I think new blocked and loading avatars are gonna be needed eventually

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Better keep these ground loading avatars

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Makes it feel like im pulling out avatars out the ground

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Farming simulator but with people 👀

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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I'm really not a fan of translucent blue homer simpson

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Me neither it freaks me ou

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Its all about the redman 👌

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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noe thank u for that u made my day

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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redman best waifu 👌

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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The loading avatar could look nicer yeah. At least have full IK

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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yeah seems kind of weird they don't let you set a much lower detailed model if yours gets blocked

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Well... Not best waifu as it never means good stuff...

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My english is so god awefully broken today its annoying me >:l
I really should just sleep

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:05 PM

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speaking of quest memes:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457368503259758613/560512602673774594/yup.png
(made by GB a discord friend)

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🏃 time to run before the big ban

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Thought: what if the current bug that gave the oculus version low resolution was actually intended for quest

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I hope not 😂

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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oh lordy plz dont let that be true

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Making a system so blurry it wont show anything isnt the way to optimize it

glacial sparrow Mar 27, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Is it safe to assume desktoplow is better performance than vrlow in vr?

weary bison Mar 27, 2019, 7:08 PM

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probably won't affect much

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mainly MSAA

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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I would not call that safe. Also I don’t know the answer.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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VRlow has 4x MSAA while Desktop low doesnt

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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this post explains it pretty well: https://imgur.com/FsdrJIw
@glacial sparrow

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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No other changes so far i recall

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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does the MSAA Do much?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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It removes jaggies

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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I could really tell the AA when in desktop low so I wanna change it but im not sure

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Just use DesktopLow
Its not like most people notice the difference anyway while running around with 40 fps

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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I get around 30fps in vr as I saw

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ah ok Ill keep using low then

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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MSAA has quite a logarithmic drop in regards to how noticeable it is

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Vive pro can skip on msaa

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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so going form 4 to 8 here isnt really worth it, at least in my opinion

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Other headsets pixels are big enough to notice

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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The main jump from VRhigh to VRlow is shadows settings, Cascade splits and lod bias righto?

frozen trout Mar 27, 2019, 7:11 PM

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The Oculus Quest Countdown is getting roasted atm. "HOW DO WE COUNT DOWN WHEN NO DATE"

drifting plaza Mar 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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OOF

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When you get c r e a m e d

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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When people announce a release season quarter / year I just instantly specify it as the last day of said season/quarter/year

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I have lots of “year” reveals listed as de 31st

median basalt Mar 27, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Weren't they working on new "blocked" avatars that actually sorta had a face?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Shouldn’t blocked be invisible

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Oh the grey dude

delicate perch Mar 27, 2019, 7:17 PM

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thats why i dont block, i just block avatar and see the greyguy

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and tend to use X2 saftey when in public worlds being crashing people is the new knuckles >.>

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 7:21 PM

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see the only thing they needa fix with the grey dude is to make em act like an actual avatar

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cause all I see is barely any arm or hand movement

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Really? Grey dude is fine for me but the problem as you describe is seen on the loading blue guy

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:24 PM

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The loading blue guy scares me

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:24 PM

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I think they should be standardized

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Meaning

fading flower Mar 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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yo i cant log in

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why?

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is there a bug>

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:29 PM

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@cold talon slight edit to your description

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cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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tanabae

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Better make a new world pill where you explain how the quest works for users in VRchat

tall garden Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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holy moly

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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ok nice one buddy

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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And just yeet a big photo of that on spawn at them

tall garden Mar 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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thats wild

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:35 PM

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That shader is not single sterio pass, pill.

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:36 PM

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oh broken shders arghhh! my eyesss

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:37 PM

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“It just works” can be taken multiple ways tho

south viper Mar 27, 2019, 7:37 PM

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important question: when Quest version appears, do we keep calling desktop users peasants?

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Quest just becomes peasants 2.0?
We could go for that i guess

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:38 PM

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@south viper put it this way, I have a dk2x a rift, and full body set up with vive trackers. I plan to get a quest as well. If you wanna call me a peasant go for it 😉

south viper Mar 27, 2019, 7:38 PM

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vive pro?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Nah, miss me with those vive wands pls

south viper Mar 27, 2019, 7:39 PM

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yeah the controllers are ass

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I bought one and went back to the rift

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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inb4 everyone looks like nikkei in quest version vrc

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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I wanf a valve headset

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I bet Nikkei has too many polys

sonic verge Mar 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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!online

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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If I see a vive pro + knuckles I’ll jump on it

floral flaxBOT Mar 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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There are 6062 users in VRChat currently

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:41 PM

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As long as vive wands are part of the deal vive pro is a downgrade :S that seems exaggerated and overly harsh but I’m serious I value comfort

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:41 PM

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I fear vive. I wanr a valve headset or oculus rift

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Why do you fear vive...?

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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their headsets looks scary

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I wish I knew

south viper Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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probably the tiny spiders hidden in that giant cheap plastic part at the front

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Ow yea the free spiders are a turn off 👀

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Something about it just.. offputs me, my gut tells me its unsafe

finite carbon Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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It's actually entirely a spider egg

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Shhh chroma doing leak these things

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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HTC RMA is a nightmare they litterally do not care

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:42 PM

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they do look chunky

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:43 PM

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3 weeks down a base station still

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Thankfully I have a rift so I only lost my legs

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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why dont you just use rift+trackers

finite carbon Mar 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Hopefully valve will release their hmd soon.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I do

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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cool

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I’m down a base station because HTC is fixing it

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So I can’t use trackers right now

covert linden Mar 27, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I want the valve headset sometime

finite carbon Mar 27, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I heard it's 150 fov, which really does it for me because the 110 sucks

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:45 PM

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btw is it indifferent from using trackers with vive?

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i heard there latency or something when you use them with the oculus

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Trying to RMA a base station that you ought separately is a nightmare I kept getting passed rep to rep because they didn’t know how to proceed with their script. Without a headset serial number

finite carbon Mar 27, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Shouldn't have latency. It's literally just having the trackers as a separate entity.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:47 PM

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There is no latency

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Trackers are just as sharp and accurate as the touch controllers

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Kinect has the latency

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Just feels like touch controllers on your feet basically

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 7:49 PM

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oh ok cool

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thanks

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Kinect on the other hand had a very obvious half a second delay and it didn’t feel like your own body

torn nebula Mar 27, 2019, 7:55 PM

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@languid beacon if their phone reps can't do it, consider small claims to enforce their warranty terms

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 7:56 PM

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They finally sent me a shipping label and have had it for 3 weeks now

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I just hope it’s not lost in the system due to having no hmd serial

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I can’t be the first person to RMA a stand alone base station that was not part of a headset

orchid lance Mar 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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anyone wanna watch shrek in vrchat

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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vrchat broken
🦀 🦀 🦀

orchid lance Mar 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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So “it just works” can mean “how did you manage to get vrchat working on a quest” “it just works” meaning it was easy

It could also mean “how well does it run” “it just works” meaning it meets the minimum definition of running

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Hope it’s the former lol

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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wait are you trying to overthink a Todd Howard meme?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Sue me lol

idle elm Mar 27, 2019, 8:03 PM

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(The Todd Howard meme is that it doesn't work… …right?)

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Well the way vrpill used it and his hand pose and.black and white was more of the original Steve Jobs motto

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:05 PM

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one of the popular images replaced Jobs' head with Todd's

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Ah

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I am not up on Bethesda memes

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:07 PM

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gonna have his "Sometimes it doesn't just work." on standby

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hm, game's not updating

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Uninstall Forces it

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Wewie, thank you for the patch dev peoples

covert chasm Mar 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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restart steam

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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What'd you do to 736?

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let it run free

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:12 PM

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can we not do an update every two seconds cmon guys i just updated a bunch of stuff yesterday including steam

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:12 PM

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yeah leave the bugs in god damn

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why yall always fixin shit?

vale palm Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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you literally have to reinstall windows everytime theres an update for vrc on steam

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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nani lol

vale palm Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Exactly.

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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I've uhhh, never had to do that 🤔

tepid tree Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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no just restart steam

vale palm Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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its satire :>

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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With some of the people we get here it's hard to tell vrcfrown

vale palm Mar 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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dw

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im a vrchat player since doom1

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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I literally have to go to the doctor's every time there's an update

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Speedy fix there VRChat team 😺

gaunt pine Mar 27, 2019, 8:18 PM

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omfg they actually fixed something

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:18 PM

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yea every 2 seconds my dude its annoying'

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itz like there trying to be that way

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lol

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 8:25 PM

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owo

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:27 PM

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On the new update are dynamic bones still disabled by default?

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:27 PM

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yup

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Also, I called it yesterday that they are likely doing these changes to make VRchat Quest compatible.

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:28 PM

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But they've said they'd do this well before the Quest was announced 🤔

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:28 PM

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That's a mixed bag, but essentially most VR titles will now be limited to the capabilities of a smart phone because of the Quest.

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:29 PM

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but it's an optional limit 🤔

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Right, but it is still unfortunate if new people know nothing about it. I understand it's a performance hit, but dynamic bones are a big part of what sets VRchat appart from other VR social apps.

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:30 PM

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agreed

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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We could all run around bland in Altspace for performance.

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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A DB-less VRChat is still a significant difference in experience than altspace

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I agree with that too.

warped urchin Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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I mean with how bad some of the avatars I've seen its crazy

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Quest could have no DB at all and it would still be a great experience

idle elm Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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It's a social app… we can communicate to each other and stuff.

warped urchin Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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I hate that streamers are blamjng VRChat over their poor steps for the lag they get.

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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well duh

ivory frost Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Well definitely I hope they always keep them as an option.

warped urchin Mar 27, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Like sure your obs and the 40 people around you with poor avatars are gonna ruin your shit so quickly

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No wonder almost all the VRChat streams I see are laggy

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Woah I saw that

light river Mar 27, 2019, 8:34 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/475852612865097742/560562251699060756/7CjbUoU71e.png

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i saw this avatar the other day

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118227 polys, 2445 dynamic bone collision checks

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16 unique materials

dusty shore Mar 27, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Hello

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I why I can't log in to my account :,( on VRChat

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Did my account get hack

unborn stone Mar 27, 2019, 8:36 PM

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@light river that looks pretty fun to run

vast tulip Mar 27, 2019, 8:36 PM

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many streamers use some of the worst performing avatars I have seen ;o

dusty shore Mar 27, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Help merr😭

light river Mar 27, 2019, 8:36 PM

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hey my one million poly avatar with eighty eight thousand dynamic bone collision checks is lagging :( vrchat devs why did you do this to me :(

dusty shore Mar 27, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Pls

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Guys talk to me why do I can't not log innn to my acccc

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😭

velvet quarry Mar 27, 2019, 8:37 PM

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@fluid wagon Please use English in the channels on this server, if you want to speak Russian, there is a #russian text channel.

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:38 PM

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ooooo getting sassy

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Hmm.. people.

iron seal Mar 27, 2019, 8:38 PM

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lol

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 8:38 PM

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@fluid wagon It's why we have language channels for those

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Best to stick with it there

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:39 PM

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lmfao oh u moderatores and the vrc team are so stupid

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 8:39 PM

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is possible for turn back on dynamic bone for yourself ?

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:39 PM

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lol

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 8:39 PM

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idk

velvet quarry Mar 27, 2019, 8:39 PM

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@dusty shore It's somewhat difficult to debug that issue, I'd recommend you contact VRChat support by following the steps at #vrchat-support

dusty shore Mar 27, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Thank u so Mach for ask me I was so scared

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 8:41 PM

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user should have choice

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 8:41 PM

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öwö

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Well.. I was gonna.

shrewd crow Mar 27, 2019, 8:42 PM

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gunna what

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lol

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Thought: PCMR’s loud rejection and detraction of non-PC vr can kill vr by discouraging non-pc owners from trying it

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 8:45 PM

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how the hell is the quest gonna run this game

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oculus quest is an insta buy now tho

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 8:46 PM

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id wait until they explain it to buy it though

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And if you care about visuals the quest is a biggg let down

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Yeah I’m gonna need video confirmation of vrchat running smoothly but so long as I get that Quest is instant purchase

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Res almost on par with pro; and less screen door than cv1 is a let down not sure where you are getting that info oclac

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 8:55 PM

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@polar bone Nothing is ever an insta buy. Wait to see proof and some form of feedback before buying into a bold claim like VRC on Quest.

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There's going to be some form of major compromise no matter what.

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Of course I'm not saying I'm gonna buy it day one

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But if it works then yeah I'm buying it

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Highly doubtful though, my computer can barely run the game

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I'm sure the devs have gone over all this stuff internally, but I honestly can't for the life of me imagine how this is going to work.

warped urchin Mar 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I can

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It's pretty simple.

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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and folks probably aren't going to like how it's going to work

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Still though I'm likely going buy a quest because of beat saber

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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This discord already rips enough on laptop users with better specs than the Quest.

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Then there's the potato laptop users

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Ones with 940MX for a GPU

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Inb4 you can only use the public avatars that Vrchat comes with

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Wii style Mii's only. :v

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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heh

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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4 gigs of ram

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Inb4 Nikkei can only be the costumizable avatar

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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No dy-bones, no real time lighting, no shaders. Dev maps only.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Dev maps only x doubt

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Everything else probably

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 8:59 PM

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with potentially curated map is how I would guess it goes

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 8:59 PM

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@vocal shard 2.45Ghz cpu 😂

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 8:59 PM

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inb4 quest is separated from main servers and somehow people still crash

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Even 32k avatars seem too steep for quest, though

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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"Ok, dropping the portal..." --> "Wait guys! I can't go there!"

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Again x doubt

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Hehehehe

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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10K or under probably

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Hey let you use community labs worlds they just drop a warning

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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At best, I would assume that Quest would just have the popular worlds, Community Labs worlds, and VRChat Team worlds

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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That’s ... all of them

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:00 PM

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At best we would get a blog post making things clear 👀

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 9:02 PM

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anyway I'm kinda baffled that they don't allow the quest to tether to a computer

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If they did that it would be a rift s killer

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 9:02 PM

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would have added to the cost

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Well. There's a good side to it though. I don't think that people will be able to use any malicious dll with the quest

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But who knows

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Chairs are broken as soon they fixed after the latest update

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Someone's still gonna make a crasher

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i love this game xD

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Hahaha

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It happens, something gets fixed, some other things break

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 9:04 PM

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@warped urchin how is it gonna work I'm still waiting

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:04 PM

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John carmack wants Quest to teather but said no promises

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Tbh- The quest would be insanely good for schools...

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But with the content gating it wont be used

polar bone Mar 27, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Rift cat might be able to do something with streaming over WiFi or usb

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:06 PM

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What is dumb as they lock themselves out of a big market

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Or they might bring out a company version

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 9:06 PM

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128 gb of internal memory, is it enough for vrchat cache though?

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Knowing how mobile platforms usually go, they'll probably be marketing a Quest+ within a year of release, which features the obviously desired stuff the original was missing.

coral lagoon Mar 27, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Hehehe

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Wireless tethering is an inevability

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Officially supported wireless teathering is the question

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I'd imagine there will be a new version released using the Snapdragon 845 further down the road, to allow for wireless tether.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:09 PM

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If they allowed it t would kill rift S

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I expected rift S / quest feature parity but quest has higher resolution

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Dunno why

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:10 PM

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The product line up just seems kind of off to me. Could very nearly be a perfect market dominating product range, but I guess time constraints contested against that.

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If the Quest had the simple ability to tether, and if the Rift-S was a genuine all round upgrade (whether more expensive or not) it would have secured both ends of the market almost flawlessly.

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Well you see Oculus has a lot of stuff planned ahead and with the recurring issues of the rift and everything they decided that their best bet is to release the quest and improve upon the Rift just for now so people can hold off until the 2nd generation of vr is released

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Hence the Oculus S was born just as a stand by oculus rift 1.5

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They are also currently in the process of flushing out the rift in general from the market and everything

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:14 PM

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I think inside out tracking is the future esp for body trackers

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I don’t the rift s for being no physical IPD

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Inside out for body tracking hmm?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Cameras and leds on trackers

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Same as headset

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Yeah but that would be so much more expensive

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Future touch controllers will probably use camera too

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Cameras and leds?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Yes same as quest

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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You do know the stuff that is coming with the oculus 2 right?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I don’t because that is rumors

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Well it's not rumors if it was announced by oculus themselves

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Well then I I didn’t know that

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Oculus 2 was cancelled and became the Rift-S, unless you've heard far more recent news.

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:17 PM

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No

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It was not cancelled that is false information

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I don’t think Rift 2 was cancelled I think it never existed

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Well Rift-2 originally had various functioning prototypes, Caspar and Halfdome, etc.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Which means it wasn’t cancelled

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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But those were all shelved for Rift-S when they changed management and took Iribe off the project.

carmine nebula Mar 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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A decent update

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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The tech isn’t going to be shelved

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

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With the way that vr is going in life they wanted to push out the oculus 2 as soon as they could but as time has shown they were adding so much that it would need another year or 2 to fix it all up so to help calm people down and let them see that oculus is still in production they released the S to help people with all their rift issues

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:19 PM

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They showed off multi depth focus based on eye gaze

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They don’t develop that stuff with no plan to use it eventually

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Eventually sure. But it was originally intended for the immediate successor to the Rift.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Which isn’t S

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We all know what S means

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:21 PM

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They said that the Quest was suppose to mark the end of the 1st generation of VR

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Maybe game focused VR

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:22 PM

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S is the industry standard for “better, but if you upgrade now you are a chump”

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:22 PM

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But vive is already going to next gen for companies with the eye trcking

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:22 PM

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I'm sure the tech will be back eventually, but they made it fairly clear that the company was shifting it's strategy away from the high end market.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@languid beacon 'The S stands for, your a sucker for getting it'

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Only if you upgrade to it

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:23 PM

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The S isn't even that bad

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Its a downgrade-

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Seriously though, what would the 'S' in Rift S mean, aside from 'Sucker'?

'Special'? 'Spatial'?

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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It's just meant for the people who have had the rift for so long and want a change

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I’m not specifically talking about oculus rift s just S models as a term

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Its cheaper to build, costs more, loads of downgrades and blocking out 30% of the humans from playing and making it hard for everyone else to get less sick aint neat

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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You can't say the pro isn't really an upgrade either considering it costed 800 to 900 on it's own

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Nothing. It doesn’t stand for anything. It’s just a commonly used letter understood to be an upgrade but not a successor.

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:25 PM

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And it doesn't cost more it only costs 400 dollars and still comes with the controllers and other things

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 9:25 PM

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True.. all the Vive Pro did did was bump up screen and image quality

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:25 PM

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A change to what though? The only upside it has is a marginally clearer display. It's not even a true resolution upgrade due to rendering at the same scale as the Rift.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:25 PM

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And Oled -> LCD now

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:25 PM

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A change to tracking issues and controller issues

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:26 PM

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The tracking is just worse from a technical standpoint
It may be easier and cleaner to use but its worse.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:26 PM

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PS4 probis an s model. Vive pro is an s model. New 3DS, etc

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Dont try to play a fast beadsaber level as the odds are the tracking will be unable to keep up perfectly.
Or well- Worse the currently.

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Have you used it Oclac? How can say it's gonna be worse or better without trying it yourself?

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I take it you use 3 cameras

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:27 PM

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You can wait for it to actually come out before trying to state how bad it is

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:27 PM

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I havent but i know how the tech works and i work with people who have used it and are even more tech geeks then me

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Its not a bad headset-
But the normal oculus is just better

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So its not an upgrade as people claimed-
Its a downgrade with compromises.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Implying oculus even used OLED correctly. With spud it might as well be lcd anyway

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Also this fits more in #general-media

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:28 PM

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It's not like it matters really this chat is usually dead

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@languid beacon Well there OLED was horrible set up- The current LCD is almost the same, its minimal worse but its still worse 🤷

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Vive-Pro is it's own weird thing. Not so much a S model as it is something for people who see little difference between $500 and $1200.

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:28 PM

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The S either way it might be is just for now a fill in for the Rift until the upcoming Oculus 2 comes out

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Like- If they kept selling the normal oculus id complain less about the S
But right now its just being scummy from them and its unfair towards consumers.
Mainly with people not understanding how big parts of the tech work

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:29 PM

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One of those 10% better for 240% more expense, kind of deals, for the kind of person who already owns a 2080ti.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:30 PM

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One thing i gotta say
There roomtracking is insanely dope
That is lewd dreaming content man

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Oh jesus

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I'm just gonna wait for the Rift 2 but still gonna get the quest while it stands

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:32 PM

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But saying the S is a upgrade for what it really brings compared to the current model is like saying the new samsung phone extreme punchhole is better then the notches or even having it be totally gone...

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Saying the XR or XS is an upgrade even tho they made the size bigger, you can say that for a lot of things

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Anyone else having problems? I keep trying to join friends but it puts me to a empty world

chilly quail Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Restart

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I'd say that at best the Rift-S is a side-grade. For existing Rift owners it's mainly a downgrade, unless they never got their 3rd sensor. For new owners it's a case of, "It'll have to do for now."

chilly quail Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Update

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I promise you most rift s owners won’t care, tho I don’t see S selling well and I expect them to see quest sell better and focus on that in the future

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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@vocal shard Be sure your game is up to date

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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the update was literally hours ago

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I just opened it 10 minutes ago.

chilly quail Mar 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Weird

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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But alright

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restarting.

carmine dew Mar 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Tech companies now a days are just tryna do what they can to keep people hooked as the years go by while waiting for that one big upgrade

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Tbh- I see the quest selling better then the S and maybe the oculus 2 selling properly again

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Hi

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Again, if the Quest just had optional PC tether, the Rift-S would be entirely irrelevant. It's just such a weird stop-gap product.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Having your devs leave isnt a smart buisness tactic...

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:35 PM

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The rub is with the discontinuation of rift classic there is no longer a vr headset I can recommend to people

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:35 PM

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They worked with others on the S for a reason...

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What is funny tbh that they did that..

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I don’t recommend vive due to vive wands

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I don’t recommend wmr

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And I don’t recommend rift s

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:36 PM

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For me, it's going to be a wait to see what Valve brings to the table. And beyond that, see if HTC or another third party has anything else to offer before a genuine Rift-2 turns up.

graceful pewter Mar 27, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I thought they mostly just made the Oculus s to consolidate their production line

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Valve will get done in about 13 years, don't worry.

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Although any Oculus product is likely going to need it's own viable FBT method to be considered by me.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Right now in terms of pc vr we have entered the “its best to wait” period which is scary becasue it stalls the industry

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@graceful pewter Well yea- The S is easier to make and cheaper to mass produce

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:39 PM

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And I know what you mean Adeon, regarding what to recommend.
I'd still be fine recommending the Vive personally, all spare for the fact that it just seems too late into it's lifespan to do so.

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If any product needed a "S" version, it was the Vive really. And it should be the Pro, but without the over inflated price tag.

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Really wonder what vive is going to do with there upcomming stuff

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The teasers where so bad and confusing so :x

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Inb4 it's a Quest competitor

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:41 PM

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A modest resolution upgrade to kill the screen door effect, and the "deluxe" integrated audio as standard, is really all it needs to remain good enough and relevant until eye tracking arrives.

vocal shard Mar 27, 2019, 9:41 PM

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I'm jinxing it bois

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Vive Cosmos is literally a quest competitor. I predict a steam machine in a headset

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PCMR will hate it too

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Cosmos has the interesting aspect that it's potentially an upgradable Quest, to a certain degree. In that new phones will gradually surpass the Quest in computing.
But it also sounds like a far far more awkward setup, and I doubt enough have beefy enough phones for that to really come into relevance until beyond it's lifespan.

rigid crescent Mar 27, 2019, 9:44 PM

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Forgot about the cosmos. It has a flip up faceplate doesn't it? Seems good for devs.

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Also, will be lacking the ruthlessly curated library Quest will have.

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So will probably remain more of a PCVR/Phone hybrid.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:46 PM

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I wouldn’t call it ruthless. Compared to steam today, oculus is just steam before they stopped caring

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:47 PM

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I feel like Cosmos success will depend on the price quite a bit. Competing on that $400 mark will be tough.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Oculus store still has its share of shovelware

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:47 PM

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No, I mean how the Quest library is it's own separate thing.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:48 PM

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It’s crossbuy with rift

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:48 PM

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They've declared strict performance gating for submissions.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Oh yes

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Only in one direction though.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:48 PM

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One direction was confirmed ?

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I’m not saying it’s cross playable

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Maybe I should check.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:49 PM

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But if it’s available on both I think you get both regardless of which you buy

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:49 PM

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But I mean, logically it's got to be right? Or else that "strict performance gating" would also be enforced upon the Rift.

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If it can run any Rift title, then there's no point curating it and anyone can publish to it regardless.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:50 PM

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It’s the Apple model, you own it and if it can run you can run it

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but the games themselves have to support the hardware

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And the store only shows results for stuff comparable with your device

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Unless perhaps the submission standards are purely to earn the right to be featured on the Quest specific portion of the store.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Eh I’m fine with curation

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Steam burned me out

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Well it's obviously required for stuff like this. No other way round it.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:52 PM

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“I want to buy a game. I know there is something out there I would really like, I just can’t find it.”

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I don't buy unrated games on a whim, so the supposed Steam shovel ware crisis never bothered me in the slightest.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I have no confidence buying steam games. Many look great but I don’t buy them because I know more often than not the game isn’t good

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Also honestly never saw them, but then I don't usually just go around browsing.

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I typically know a game exists, has been favourably received, and go to it directly by name.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Nah I search for stuff. I’ve found lots of hidden gems

ruby burrow Mar 27, 2019, 9:56 PM

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My main method for discovering games is probably youtube and word of mouth.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:56 PM

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And that’s a problem, hidden gems shouldn’t exist. Hidden gems are a tragedy.

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Too much noise

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So I’m fine with content gating. Require effort

plucky fractal Mar 27, 2019, 9:58 PM

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hola

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Now I would like to run unknown sources like the rift

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Hello

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Angel is dming invites

plucky fractal Mar 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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m

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Spam

plucky fractal Mar 27, 2019, 10:00 PM

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😔

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😢

cold talon Mar 27, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Spam-detected
report-filed
love-sent

plucky fractal Mar 27, 2019, 10:02 PM

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love

tulip rose Mar 27, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Hey um

stoic halo Mar 27, 2019, 10:05 PM

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VRChat getting on the oculus quest, how the fuck

tulip rose Mar 27, 2019, 10:05 PM

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whenever i join friends or a server i dont see anyone at all

stoic halo Mar 27, 2019, 10:05 PM

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i really feel like its going to not work very well

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Update your game.

tulip rose Mar 27, 2019, 10:06 PM

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How do i do that

stoic halo Mar 27, 2019, 10:06 PM

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close the game and update?

tulip rose Mar 27, 2019, 10:06 PM

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i got it from steam

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nevermind sorry

umbral reef Mar 27, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Restart steam while your outside the game

orchid lance Mar 27, 2019, 10:10 PM

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I think a dullahan avatar would be interesting to see

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like with the ability to have the head to come off that be cool

vital urchin Mar 27, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Is anyone having audio issues with the new update

reef flame Mar 27, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Am I the only person who wants 2 animate themselves and make it an avatar? 😆

queen mango Mar 27, 2019, 10:16 PM

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I heard it's possible, but I dunno what the tool to use would be for.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Kinect can capture yourself in 3D but good luck triangulating that

reef flame Mar 27, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Hmm yeah I have know idea hadn't thot that far. Only considered the initial hard copies like front back left right up down profiles.

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Very hype for quest, really need the details though.

reef flame Mar 27, 2019, 10:20 PM

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It's gonna b a min b4 I get to do any of that 😩

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I’d like to make mobile friendly avatars in preparation but I need the suggested specs for them

reef flame Mar 27, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Once upon a time I coulda maybe picked this stuff up. Long gone from my mind now. It's all make-up,fitness, and dancing up there now lol

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Easier to install blender to pop open a learn how to 3D model tutorial. There is a learning curve but anyone who actually wants to learn won’t have an issue. Turns into a very fun hobby.

reef flame Mar 27, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Yea I'd really like to. I've got more creativity then I know what to do with. Just struggle to follow throu on count my brain lol. So I honestly struggle to find pce in anything I do anymore nevermind enjoying things. Still try tho jus keep on keepin on. Glad there's peeps like u in the world. Keep it spinnin doll 😉

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I apologize that seemed like a buzz kill my bad I tend to ramble. I'm a Gemini lol 😆

nimble linden Mar 27, 2019, 10:41 PM

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so what is the likelihood of vrchat working properly on the oculus quest

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Given that they announced it, likely

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I really don’t think they would bother if it were just a trash fire

nimble linden Mar 27, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean yeah, and I really hope it works out

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because I was already sold on Quest but wasn't sure because I was 200% sure vrchat would not release on it

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Guess I was 200% wrong lol

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean I would recommend waiting to see the details before buying a quest especially if that’s the only reason you’re going to get one

nimble linden Mar 27, 2019, 10:43 PM

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oh yeah for sure, wait until reviews are out no doubt

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I don’t doubt that VR chat will run properly on the quest I really don’t. But the details and why it runs good maybe what breaks the deal for some people

nimble linden Mar 27, 2019, 10:43 PM

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but no it's not the only reason, I just really need something I can take with me places. I can't bring my desktop to friend's houses, atleast not without wanting to tear my hair out

vernal forge Mar 27, 2019, 10:44 PM

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default avatars , selected worlds etc etc

nimble linden Mar 27, 2019, 10:44 PM

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I hope it's not that limited

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Honestly I'd be fine with private-only worlds with a couple friends. I think that's achievable

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:44 PM

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It won’t be VR chat without custom avatars they definitely won’t remove custom avatars

vernal forge Mar 27, 2019, 10:44 PM

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if they focus on the Chat part , it might be

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Do you hear me VRpill and tupper? You didn’t remove them.

vernal forge Mar 27, 2019, 10:46 PM

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cough base model that you can customise cough with adding selected clothes cough

nimble linden Mar 27, 2019, 10:46 PM

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I hope they do a trailer or blog post about it soon

sick mesa Mar 27, 2019, 10:48 PM

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OI

vernal forge Mar 27, 2019, 10:48 PM

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no u

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 10:49 PM

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My guess though is that there won’t be anything particularly limiting on the oculus quest version, I will just have a multitude of performance settings to limit features, max rendered avatars, showing only the closest ones within your limit, etc.

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At least that’s my most hopeful scenario

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I can make mobile friendly avatars and worlds. I just want all of the features to be available if I optimize everything else

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And I really want a polygon ballpark to aim for. Is excellent enough?

lapis rain Mar 27, 2019, 10:57 PM

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i have a question! I tried some of the public dragonball avatars but they all dont work with fullbody tracking?D: i mean they look broke af.... is there another good world i could go to?

languid beacon Mar 27, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Yeah for now there is currently a bug with full body tracking avatars need a special fix (more accurately a workaround) for them to work properly, but this must be done by the person who uploaded it, it won’t be needed in the future but no one knows when I’ll get around to patching it

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So any avatar made by someone who didn’t apply to work around won’t work

lapis rain Mar 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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so there is no other world with dragonball avatars besides that big one?

silk agate Mar 27, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Anyone tell me how long I have to wait before I can upload avatars from unity?

primal oak Mar 27, 2019, 11:12 PM

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@silk agate It's impossible to tell how long you need to rank up from Visitor to New User because the ranking system is completely non-transparent. Here's a list of things most people believe makes ranking up faster:

-Frequently visiting other worlds with people
-Making friends and hanging out with them
-Not getting reported
-Not getting blocked
-Not getting votekicked

From my personal experience it took me about 6 hours of gameplay to rank up from Visitor to New User, someone was willing to give me a headstart and be my friend to help me learn VRChat faster and we did the things listed above. And another thing, you need a VRChat account. Steam accounts rank up extremely slowly and cap at User rank and Oculus accounts cannot rank up at all.

cyan pond Mar 27, 2019, 11:20 PM

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hey guys

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has anyone here created a world in vrchat?

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 11:31 PM

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many people create world - i am have 2 public

cyan pond Mar 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Nice, I was just trying to understand if I get a scanner such as Structure Sensor and 3D scan my room, could I then import that into a VRChat world? Using Unity? or some other method. I'm new to this so I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions.

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 11:33 PM

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yes it is possible

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file output of scanner is ?

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type ?

cyan pond Mar 27, 2019, 11:37 PM

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STL/OBJ?

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 11:38 PM

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yes obj is recognised file format for unity

cyan pond Mar 27, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Ok maybe I should download Unity to get familiar with it. How much work is it to import and make it usable for VRChat?

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Are we talking like a few hours or a day?

knotty smelt Mar 27, 2019, 11:39 PM

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for example, csgo map .obj import for unity - 5 minutes

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tops

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fully working and perfect. a long time

slender stag Mar 27, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Hey, why can't I see any of my friends in rooms? I'll join them and I'll be in the same room, but it just says I'm the only one there, please pm me

wooden rain Mar 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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soooo, i went to the pug pub thing and a door was open and there was a portal with ??? 's

tacit plank Mar 27, 2019, 11:56 PM

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You need to be on the same version Odin. One of you did not restart to update

frank cloud Mar 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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is there somewhere i can put crash logs

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im pretty sure i just got crashed by someone

weary bison Mar 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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report it to moderation@vrchat.com

frank cloud Mar 28, 2019, 12:13 AM

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idk if someone crashed me or if it was just vrchat itself though

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i have the logs tho

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should i just send the log to the email?

weary bison Mar 28, 2019, 12:14 AM

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be as descriptive as possible, let them know if there was anyone you thought it could've been

silk agate Mar 28, 2019, 12:15 AM

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I have a vrc account already. Should I just friend randoms so I can get to new user?

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All this work for just being able to upload avatars....there ought to be a better system than this

knotty smelt Mar 28, 2019, 12:18 AM

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i think you need known user for upload avatar

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

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New user lets you upload

knotty smelt Mar 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

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rly, wow

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:20 AM

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TohruThumbsUp

knotty smelt Mar 28, 2019, 12:21 AM

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I'm sure i had wait for known user for upload

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:22 AM

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@silk agate just play for a bit. Basically you want the game to realize that you will be active on the account. So going around, visiting world's, friending, talking, all works towards it. You can get it quite quickly. One of my alts got upload permissions in 4 hours by just hanging out in public worlds

silk agate Mar 28, 2019, 12:23 AM

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@vocal shard well that’s what I’ve been doing so far

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So I guess getting the new user status is based on how many hours I play for?

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Overall

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Just keep at it. It can vary from a few hours to 20+ hours. It's different for everyone. It's not hour based. Activity based

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Yo

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Is there any discussion or more info about VRC on the Quest?

weary bison Mar 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

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not yet

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hoping to see a more detailed announcement soon

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Cool, okay.

whole gyro Mar 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

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I'm concerned how well the quest will handle VRC

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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I was considering skipping the Quest if VRC wasn't going to be on it but now.....

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Yeah, same

whole gyro Mar 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Yeah when I heard this. I was hella excited

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Yea. Otherwise I'd go straight for the S. But I already have a Rift and would really like something wireless.

whole gyro Mar 28, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Ill probably stick with building a gaming pc then buying the rift. Quest looks to good to be true

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Hmmm maybe

whole gyro Mar 28, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Guess we have to wait and see untill spring. Hope it works

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Yep

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 12:35 AM

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I think Quest is amazing. But if you want a PC headset, I would wait. You're exactly between generations right now, and arguably the current best one (Oculus Rift) has been discontinued, and it's replacement, Rift S, isn't out. Vive is due for a replacement too.

cyan pond Mar 28, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I have Quest and it's working

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 12:36 AM

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x doubt

cyan pond Mar 28, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Kings Quest (1984) 😉

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:36 AM

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😄

cyan pond Mar 28, 2019, 12:36 AM

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love this game

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 12:37 AM

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🚪⬅

cyan pond Mar 28, 2019, 12:37 AM

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lol

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I bought an Arcade1up and modded it with MAME just to play these old games

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just got about 30 years younger

ancient kayak Mar 28, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Thoughts about VRchat on Oculus quest?

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Will there be another server dedicated for it?

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Hmmm

ancient kayak Mar 28, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Doubt that Quest can handle VRchat perfectly. ;--;

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Yeah, I'm curious how it'll be done

ancient kayak Mar 28, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Why can't they just made another version of rift but wireless ;--; instead of Quest

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Well, Rift relies on your PC to do most things whereas a wireless headset has to do all that in the headset.

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They're still a company focused on making money. So for them, the best choice is to try reaching as large of an audience as possible. The quest does that. A new wireless rift would be an even smaller niche on the already small VR consumer market

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Yeah true.

carmine dew Mar 28, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Eitherway the quest should run perfectly fine as a standalone headset

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If it was the case of the Oculus Go that would in no way be able to handle vrchat but the quest should be just fine

worthy oracle Mar 28, 2019, 1:03 AM

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this update is unstable

ruby needle Mar 28, 2019, 1:14 AM

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the quest is still really far behind what even a entry level gaming pc can do King

small wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:17 AM

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What can moderation team do if someone is harassing me both in game and on discord?

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Just had someone who didn't like my idea on the canny proceed to jump into my discord DM's and harass.

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🤔

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Already have screenshots of discord DM's if it helps.

worthy oracle Mar 28, 2019, 1:21 AM

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just block them lol

tacit plank Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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You can change your DMs

small wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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I would, but this is his third alt account.

tacit plank Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Discord is a browser. Open the console and you can mess with everything

worthy oracle Mar 28, 2019, 1:24 AM

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he wouldn't be able to slide in your dms if you didnt have him added

small wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:24 AM

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He joins in my discord pretending to be someone else, and then abuses DM's from there.

tacit plank Mar 28, 2019, 1:24 AM

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IP ban? I think Discord can do that

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It won't tell you the actual IP though

small wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Already banned him twice. I don't think it works.

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But this sort of harassment seems more like trolling instead of him actually being upset about my Canny post at this point.

tacit plank Mar 28, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Make it so that Discord accounts have to be a week old to join or something?

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There are similar discord features

small wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:35 AM

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I'm just going to file a report to discord's trust and safety at this point. There is not much left to try.

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But thank you for the advice.

safe prism Mar 28, 2019, 1:38 AM

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discord bans are by IP, always.

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TnS is the only way to go tbh

median basalt Mar 28, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Quest could have been so much more

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With PC connectivity

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Out of curiosity what was the idea anyway @small wing

small wing Mar 28, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Rewarding users for community lab reports.

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I bet they're only allowing good avatars for quest

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good or excellent specifically

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They'll probably implement a world performance rating too

minor charm Mar 28, 2019, 2:01 AM

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is the menu being oversensitive or is it just me?

rigid crescent Mar 28, 2019, 2:04 AM

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:3 til the avatar scan actually works only having good/excellent on quest isn't possible

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people will circumvent it just to fuck with people's quests lol

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assuming that's what they actually end up doing of course

stoic halo Mar 28, 2019, 2:23 AM

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so why is my boyfriend's mic suddenly super laggy since the update before this one?

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like it wasnt a problem till that last update

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 2:26 AM

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.What?

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I dont get how the bot took that as a spam

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Yes

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Probably the multiple dashes

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That happens

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But if it's saying you need more time, it's just telling you to play vrchat some more

queen mango Mar 28, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Same goes for all accounts created in the VRChat website

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It's like a rite of passage of sorts

short ruin Mar 28, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Wait wdym by it being a rite of passage

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Like it or not, Quest has the best chance of making VR go mainstream. That's what we all want, that means more games for PC vr users too. We need VR to grow, that means getting casuals and non-PC owners in on it too.

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not all of them will like vrchat anyway. as long as VR becomes normal, the industry will grow

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then game companies can stopconsidering 100% VR games to be "risky"

indigo fern Mar 28, 2019, 2:40 AM

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i mean, we'll get optimized, ez to run games too from it if people like it

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so thats cool

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i guess

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:41 AM

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don't hurt your head from all that cynisim

indigo fern Mar 28, 2019, 2:41 AM

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:shrug

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i want to believe 👽

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:41 AM

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AAA devs won't make a VR game. Demographic is too small.

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VR becomes big, they change their mind

south viper Mar 28, 2019, 2:42 AM

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here we go, now someone will have to define "AAA dev", and it will conveniently be defined to make the point true

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Or how about I just admit I'm 100% wrong because I'm bored of the conversation

steep turret Mar 28, 2019, 2:43 AM

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the edge. i luv it

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I want littlebigplanet on vr

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If we get littlebigplanet for pc vr ill never be sad again

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Media molecule is is budy budy with sony, aren't they? Their titles rarely get on PC

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Mm is kind of like sonys slave

indigo fern Mar 28, 2019, 2:44 AM

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yea thats what i was thinking, it would be dope if little big planet in any form could be on pc

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:44 AM

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They didnt wanna make a lbp2 but sony harrassedd them into it because the market was too good..they didnt wanna makr a lbp3 so sony was like well fine if u wont someone else will, and got sumo digital to do it

queen mango Mar 28, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I would doubt on it, LBP is a first-party title.

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I didn't even know LBP3 wasn't made by MM

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Id be happy but I get it likely never happen

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:45 AM

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I didn't even know Sony was in charge of the IP

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Yeah media molecule had no input in lbp3, thus why it was a flop

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Theyre working on dreams for ps vr right now

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It was instead Sumo Digital

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Who names their company sumo digital seriously xD

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Nothing against PSVR, it looks like a great setup, I've just never been a big console guy. never had any version of playstation/xbox

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Guess im worse, mine is ashixoss

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And yeah, I like ps3 a lot, but I wouldnt really get vr for it because I dont play many games

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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I did try the one little big planet they had for PSP, was nice

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Im a softcore gamer at best

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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too hard to make stuff on it though

queen mango Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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@languid beacon You mean the PSVita?

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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No I didn't have a Vita

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it was a PSP

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:47 AM

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It was on the psp too

queen mango Mar 28, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Huh, I see.

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Just the psp wasnt doing well

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:48 AM

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had feature parity with the first game could even load levels made as long as they didn't have DLC

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:48 AM

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My dad had the vita but hated it becausw he said there was like noo game or market for it

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:49 AM

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I am considering Nintendo LaboVR just for the heck of it, see how it compares

queen mango Mar 28, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Umm, are we still in the context of VRChat? Random chat's just a small click away.

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Oops

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:49 AM

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we're chatting about VR

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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LOL

queen mango Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Alright, my bad

steep turret Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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elire has spoken takes a knee

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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My coworker called vrchat Virtual Reality chat

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And I nearly hit her

steep turret Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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thats great

white pecan Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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isnt that what it is tho

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Yes aand no

white pecan Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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i love to play virtual reality chat

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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they're not technically wrong

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Its vrchat. Not virtual reality chatttt

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Technically theyre not wrong but AAAA

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:51 AM

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search your heart you know it to be true

white pecan Mar 28, 2019, 2:51 AM

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chatting in the reality which is virtual

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new game title

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:51 AM

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reality chat, the virtual kind

white pecan Mar 28, 2019, 2:52 AM

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virtually chatting in reality

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wait

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vrpill

vocal shard Mar 28, 2019, 3:03 AM

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hey, where can i post bugs?

primal oak Mar 28, 2019, 3:04 AM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/ or in #user-support-old

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But canny almost guarantees a dev's going to bat an eye.

frank lichen Mar 28, 2019, 3:19 AM

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I also say this here since idk where to put it

obsidian pagoda Mar 28, 2019, 4:00 AM

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they broke chairs on avatars, nice one devs, once again breakin stuff that should be unrelated to what was changed

primal oak Mar 28, 2019, 4:04 AM

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There's already a canny. https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/stations-on-avatars-broken

harsh star Mar 28, 2019, 4:05 AM

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I made a nice friend through VRChat c;

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Congratulations I guess

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zircron

urban jasper Mar 28, 2019, 4:21 AM

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well here's hoping the game runs better tomorrow...I don't have the energy to piss with it tonight.

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 4:39 AM

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It should. The new limiter should enable less trouble

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Basically, with the safety settings + limiter. It should feel fine now

hallow vine Mar 28, 2019, 4:43 AM

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why DO people try to smash eachother in vrchat

worldly wigeon Mar 28, 2019, 4:43 AM

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anyone having problem where having problem where people see you in one place when your actually around walked away from that place?

rancid vessel Mar 28, 2019, 5:15 AM

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Anyone having a issue where say people's avatar will randomly disappear..

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Like all you can see is the username?

valid sandal Mar 28, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Ok can vrc seriously fix something for once and not break everythinjg else

teal robin Mar 28, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Well your cute pfp aint broken

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 5:44 AM

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@hallow vine you ever heard of the ERP community?

carmine dew Mar 28, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Sounds kinda gay ngl

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Yeah, people smash each other in that....... vrpill

carmine dew Mar 28, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Better be with a hammer swear ta god

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 5:46 AM

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I need to observe their activity once to properly grasp it. But in general, I condemn it

still lark Mar 28, 2019, 5:46 AM

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It's with their hammer.

carmine dew Mar 28, 2019, 5:46 AM

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S t o p

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It's so weird seeing completely random people have similar friends with you on discord like scruffy has a similar friend with me

still lark Mar 28, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Only one!

carmine dew Mar 28, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Yup loo

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Lol*

true atlas Mar 28, 2019, 6:15 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/whatever-gif-9603576

tropic pine Mar 28, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Yo, can anyone tell me what happened to so e of the vrchat maps, seems like they just vanished

main vigil Mar 28, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Hi everyone, where can I report other players?

tropic pine Mar 28, 2019, 6:30 AM

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There should be a report button built in

main vigil Mar 28, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Not sure but I only see 4 buttons, "Friend" "Mute" "Block" and "Vote to Kick"

true sky Mar 28, 2019, 6:44 AM

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Should be on the right

main vigil Mar 28, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Nvm that player is gone, thank you !

safe prism Mar 28, 2019, 7:06 AM

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not all users get the report button

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it's unlocked with the trust system for whatever reason

true sky Mar 28, 2019, 7:46 AM

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@safe prism its to prevent people from making alts to abuse it

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 8:47 AM

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I am going to bet that Oculus quest vrchat instances will be different

topaz lynx Mar 28, 2019, 9:49 AM

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tbh. i'm gald VRChat is coming to Oculus Quest

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but now i'm wondering on how the worlds/avatars will run on the mobile chipset

inner cape Mar 28, 2019, 10:09 AM

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why are you glad, may I ask?

topaz lynx Mar 28, 2019, 10:18 AM

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because i don't have a powerful PC to run VR

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all i got is a PC with the AMD Radeon RX 200 series GPU

cold talon Mar 28, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Vrpill actually explained how it will work

topaz lynx Mar 28, 2019, 10:34 AM

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link?

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 10:37 AM

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https://external-preview.redd.it/dFR8tsoOsLsiTYrLtypAESJltIFbJighNwrQkSGTABI.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cbe60b871485fad2d3601c74ac22000d7bd18d0e

near saffron Mar 28, 2019, 10:38 AM

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^

topaz lynx Mar 28, 2019, 10:39 AM

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that's not what i'm looking for

meager solstice Mar 28, 2019, 10:40 AM

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I mean I think that’s how it works

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Thats the only news we have and will get though

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But with how badly the quests specs are im almost sure its just going to be its fully own client in its own safe space

near saffron Mar 28, 2019, 10:44 AM

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1 dynamic bone gona frazzle it

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 10:44 AM

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There are just so many problematic systems and processes being used that i dont see it being the same client/game even.

elfin cloak Mar 28, 2019, 10:45 AM

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on avatar changing from favorite list
the blue man load's infinitely
and the only fix for that is to go to another world and back
then repeat avatar changing
and problem is fixed

which kind'a sucks
because there is no other simpler fix for that
😦

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 10:47 AM

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And then the fact facebook/oculus would go insane if they learned about the things users can show on a quest within Vrchat...
They dont want games with girls in bikini's even...

neon vine Mar 28, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Uh someone in the great pug is abusing the bucket and jostling everyone all over the place. We cant seem to find the person and arent really sure what to do. Kinda wish that bucket didnt have colliders.

near saffron Mar 28, 2019, 11:11 AM

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but how else will people break into the kitchen

cinder viper Mar 28, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Looking at the event tab are there any event plans for Europe time zones? They all for most seems to be at way passed 1am for me in Uk.

rigid crescent Mar 28, 2019, 11:16 AM

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@neon vine not trying to get you to call them out but what letter does their name start with?

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Most events are using US time sadly

rigid crescent Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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i think its my friend lol

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Try using a time translator

neon vine Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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@rigid crescent I couldnt find the person

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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@cinder viper

neon vine Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Its no worries though they arent doing it anymore

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Though some events have UK times mentioned

near saffron Mar 28, 2019, 11:18 AM

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Think the world dev meetups are now sooner so it ain’t like at midnight for UK

sleek bone Mar 28, 2019, 11:23 AM

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zircron

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 11:24 AM

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@cinder viper there are a few eu focused events. But it's way less then compared to others

cinder viper Mar 28, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Cheers I want to try and get to some

coral epoch Mar 28, 2019, 12:15 PM

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So I have this really neat idea of a avatar, but like, I dunno how to make one so it's big rip

near saffron Mar 28, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Look up vids on YouTube on how to make one

coral epoch Mar 28, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Yeah I coooouuullld, but I'm worried like, that's it is going to be shit quality

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This idea is pretty great

near saffron Mar 28, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Well u’ll never know till u try

coral epoch Mar 28, 2019, 12:24 PM

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True true

quartz osprey Mar 28, 2019, 12:26 PM

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not sure what the dev team did but playing at VRHigh settings is giving me better performance then DesktopLow O_O

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 12:29 PM

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@quartz osprey ty for the info ima use that tonight xD

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Ive been scoring 30fps in vr

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But it looks really smooth to me so its all good

quartz osprey Mar 28, 2019, 12:30 PM

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desktoplow giving me 15-20 vrhigh 25-45

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Try the middle one and see how it compares if you can

quartz osprey Mar 28, 2019, 12:30 PM

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vrlow crashes oculus dash lol

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Oh ok xD

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I run wmr so I wonder if the vrhigh will be the same for me

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I dun wanna use vrhigh and die to 10 fps

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I made my boyfriend ride rollercoasters in vr yesterdsy and he died

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But I loved it so much.. it was my second day, had nausia yesterday, and today yolod it

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Worth it.. but I was screaming becausee it felt like my bed was upside down

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But he died qnd we were in call and he was suffeting

brisk umbra Mar 28, 2019, 12:36 PM

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isn't it great? you get sick in vr when you ride stuff

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 12:37 PM

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I didnt get sick

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I was in VR, I loved it, so much fun

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I only get sick when I nonstop spin around or I turn perfectly around a corner, then its like woah there

brisk umbra Mar 28, 2019, 1:06 PM

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I get sick xD

median basalt Mar 28, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Imagine having working voice prioritization in a social game

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:08 PM

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I mean it’s not impossible that it just will barely run at all and they are just existing on the platform with no effort to actually make it run well... I hope that’s not the case though. But I have seen games get ported to systems where it should never have been ported

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:08 PM

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It seems like there isnt that... because its so hard to hear now

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:09 PM

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I will say I’m not 100% convinced pill is being candid :X

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Bethesda memes to little to reassure lol

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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@languid beacon im 99% sure it wont be connected with the other VRC players
Oculus has stated they dont even want games where bikini's get shown...
And the fact loads of things like materials and ect would not be able to show on the snapdragon 835...

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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I just hope huge deal breakers like that get explained before Quests are purchasable

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Doubt it knowing facebook

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I mean no materials I don’t care about. If I can’t use a quest to hang out with friends on the pc version it’s a little pointless

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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And even if it gets explained. Its not there problem when people dont read these things.
People are just going to be really dissapointed when they go play games like Roborecall on the quest and learn it looks like nintendo DS game

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:18 PM

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If I have desktop friends on my server excited about quest becasue they have no gaming pc and feel like Quest might finally let them in vrc with a headset, only to not be able to hang with us, it’s bad

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Its just not how the tech works
And why im fairly salty they havent released a blogpost about it yet

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:19 PM

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If they have to wall it off they shouldn’t bother at all

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Unless they are getting money for it

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Then I get it

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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https://i.redd.it/75wo9k4f8po21.jpg Is all il say

covert linden Mar 28, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Ive always wanted ps2 VR

umbral reef Mar 28, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Only for 500 euro for where i live!

sonic verge Mar 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Mar 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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There are 6594 users in VRChat currently

languid beacon Mar 28, 2019, 2:48 PM

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See Graphics downgrade doesn’t bother me

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If that’s all that happened to vrchat I wouldn’t care

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I’d be eastatic to have it portable and able to see what’s going on even if it’s at a lower graphic setting m, I just don’t want to be garden walled off from my friends

humble cloud Mar 28, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Yeah I agree @languid beacon that's the whole point of vrchat is that you're connected to everyone from vr to desktop tuo different interests, countries, etc.