If anything Psvr wouldve blown it up lol
#vrchat-general-2
covert linden
umbral reef
Platform and support is a big thing though.
Games like Beat saber will be nice with the Quest. But sideloading is an extremely big turndown what makes it imo, not worth getting.
covert linden
becaues its not a consumer product yet
meager solstice
vive pro was dumb to begin with
umbral reef
Vive pro is not aimed at the average day VR user. Companies are loving that thing for demo's and projects.
covert linden
^
I doubt it
There has been go out for ages has there not and its done nothing
so is the quest
if you cannot connect it to your pc
umbral reef
The main thing- Is there a market for the Quest though...
PSvr taps into a market for VR that is not taken by anyone else
Oculus RN is trying to make its own market with mobile and losing hardcore VS WMR.
Vive is going high end users
covert linden
I dont think theres a market at all, vr is still like an
Oh... that exists thing? To the extent of people who would be interested, are gamers who likely have psvr or already vr, bceause we still havent normalized gaming systems, thats just all imo tho,
What Oclac says is 100% rtue
umbral reef
Got a link then ?
covert linden
They literally stopped selling the Rift. To sell a WMR.
And it'll be a very limited market, ALSO, - Oculus is owned by facebook so MANY people will not invest in it because of that
no they are sucking ass
They literally stopped sellinf the Rift, their best product, to sell a WMR
umbral reef
They are NOT selling that specific headset at all anymore
The only Oculus headset for PC you can get is the S
covert linden
no it wont... its WMR...
The rift S is a pricier, worst wmr
Worst rift not wmr
did u not read "Worst rift not wmr"
Yes the Rift did amazing, they were crushing ti with that, best controllers out there, However, if you even do one google, you will learn that yeah, The Rift S is bad. It's good, but not compared to the Rift. It is an WMR, In fact if im not mistaken, it was literally made with/by Leveno.
Everyone who was hype for the Rift S expecting abetter Rift, was disappointed
Its not gonna be popular bro when its worse than the rift and more expensive than the rift
umbral reef
Its the only headset you can get though-- And various WMR headsets have a better bang for you buck.
No 90Hz, better screen, Software DPI, LCD and not OLED anymore, the odd choise for headphones...
covert linden
Theyll go with wmr instead because wmrs are better now..than it.. and.. cheaper
Thats the only better thing about the rift s oppose to wmr
Quoteing oclac here: Its the only headset you can get though-- And various WMR headsets have a better bang for you buck.
No 90Hz, better screen, Software DPI, LCD and not OLED anymore, the odd choise for headphones...
stoic halo
inside out sucks psa
oculus shouldn't have abandoned outside in
betting it all on rift s inside out was dumb
ruby needle
it doesnt suck too bad as rift s tackles some of the issues WMR had
covert linden
Ive titled it wmr 2
ruby needle
it makes it a actually good alternative for users who might not have possibilities to setup stations or want it on the go
umbral reef
Its still leaps behind two camera tracking and even more compared to Vive or a 3 camera setup
High speed movement wont work plainly because of tech limitations...
covert linden
Thr average vr user still uses oculus or wmr do they not
umbral reef
@ruby needle Its not an alternative. Its the new norm for oculus.
ruby needle
I dont mind that, it also gets better.
umbral reef
@ruby needle To get better you should not take a step back as a company first...
covert linden
Pcvr isnt even the most common
Psvr has a better chance than thr quest becauze its at least reaching gamers
ruby needle
leaving the tracking system aside it definitely still is a step back, yes
stoic halo
quest cant even play the more in demand games lol
rigid crescent
muh IPD
umbral reef
30% of the humans cant use the headset properly
Even more will get headaches from using it
covert linden
It doesnr
umbral reef
Just that the quest already locks you into a totally new platform what means anyone who wants to make the jump has big odds of having to rebuy all there games is dumb
As there has been no words at all about games you bought being moved over for your accs
stoic halo
just get a regular oculus rift with sensors tbh
covert linden
Disnt one if the devs say himself 30% cant even use it..
stoic halo
even my tiny ass space can run sensors
rigid crescent
It's a digital adjustment not like the Rift was
rigid crescent
How come there's articles by staff that says it doesn't and explaining why it doesn't?
umbral reef
@covert linden The S has no IPD change.
covert linden
I know it doesnt
umbral reef
The quest does ๐ค
covert linden
I meant the rifts
stoic halo
simply put the quest is gonna die just like the mobile headsets
covert linden
The quest eill die due to lack od games & market
umbral reef
PS VR is right now in a better performance state then the Quest will be at launch.
And the next PSVR with PS5 will be leaps ahead...
rigid crescent
awesome, lovely bot
umbral reef
PS VR has the best games for VR... PCVR is already weak. Quest will be even more limited.
rigid crescent
psvr on ps5 ๐คค
umbral reef
My vive wants to talk Cbg
covert linden
This guy things there will be many many games for thr quest
ruby needle
Mobile VR is dead by design as it simply lacks the oof for anything more enthusiastic (for now!)
stoic halo
Quest will have no games because it cant run shit lmao
umbral reef
It has full room tracking and cna be wireless.. And else a proper setup makes a wire not annoying at all
rigid crescent
I'm guessing it'll be fruit ninja and beat saber lol
stoic halo
beat saber wont even be worth playing since you wont be able to mod it
rigid crescent
wait 
what
covert linden
Its not the first have u heard of vive cosmos
ruby needle
the first you say 
covert linden
"Only 399"
Also no games
stoic halo
oh wow 6 degrees
covert linden
399 for no games mm what a beautiful deal...
stoic halo
i got that for $300 on my. oculus with game
$250 WMR that can run games
That will be shit
And be uninteresting after a few minutes like Mobile
ruby needle
and it doesnt work with one too... which is a negative side for gaming
stoic halo
the system cant handle actual vr games
covert linden
Doesnt mean it wont be shit
umbral reef
Got a list of the confirmed game then? As most are just rumors and guesses...
stoic halo
it can handle abstract games like Beat Saber
covert linden
If it worked with a pc and withou wrd have another story
umbral reef
A fairly limited amount of games have actually been confirmed
rigid crescent
Just because you don't need a PC doesn't mean it'll do well. It's a bonus but it's also, in VR's current state, a drawback
covert linden
Psvr didnt become mainstream and it had a much better chance
umbral reef
CBG have you actually tried out a quest or other VR headsets like PsVR and WMR?
covert linden
Ok wow 2-3 games... fun....
stoic halo
oh man dead games nobody plays
ruby needle
i think we should just move on to the original topic... this channel is for vrchat related conversations anyway
umbral reef
@covert linden PSVR is the biggest VR out there right now
covert linden
Those are all games people will get sick of
umbral reef
It outsells both vive and oculus...
covert linden
@umbral reef Really? That shocks me actually, thank youbfor tellling me that
umbral reef
Legit jsut google these things ash before saying something like that :x
Also jump over to #general-media
covert linden
I based it off the fact I knoe many people have ps4 and no psvr and say its trash eek ok
stoic halo
It wont at all and thats a dumb statement to make.
vocal shard
ps vr is nice
steep turret
feelsbad
vocal shard
too bad it doesn't work well on pc
south laurel
New here to Discord, are there groups for people living in South Carolina, and if so how would if find them. Thanks
tulip pivot
I donโt think discord works like that buddy ^
south laurel
Thanks, was just trying to meet people from my area
south laurel
I will get the hang of this I am sure
dry rover
idk how to make worlds or characters so could i get some help
i wanna start making things
opaque hawk
There are channels to help you with that
dry rover
ok thanks
opaque hawk
If you want to make worlds, a community member name cyanlaser made some great world building tutorials on YouTube
faint leaf
Does any1 have the Rusty dance? Alien dance?
thin wasp
no ):
thin wasp
I dont think any of my favorited avatars have it but you can probably find it
faint leaf
I have two that has it
queen mango
So we've heard..
hidden lake
๐ฌ
thin wasp
? What laws passed?
hidden lake
? What laws passed?
Article 11 and 13 passed. They heavily penalize any online service that uploads (including user uploaded content) copyrighted materialk
thin wasp
Oof...
hidden lake
This includes characters (say someone drawing spongebob.), anything in music that could reference anything else
umbral reef
@vocal shard Funfact- Your also gonna have problems with it
Look up the brussels effect ๐
hidden lake
As well as a link tax. The link tax makes it so any online distribution of news has to pay for using news articles
thin wasp
That's sketchy af
alpine crater
just have google delist all news sites
hidden lake
It'll hit VRchat hard because I can assume now we'll have to have a verification process
thin wasp
The link tax is...sketchy...af...
hidden lake
Youtube, facebook, and twitter
queen mango
Even other websites with domain links to EU could get shut off as well
thin wasp
That's just horrible
queen mango
But I mean just through there
If they are in the US or Asia, or Australia, they're fine
hidden lake
The best thing is that many of the people voting had no clue what was happening, and 2 of the people even admitted that they voted wrong on accident
alpine crater
don't give them that benefit
lobbying has increased exponentially since the bill was proposed, by the copyright agencies of EU countries
thin wasp
I feel like any time the government messes with general internet usage it's concerning
umbral reef
The main vote was about if they wanted specific parts of all of it anyway--
The other bills are really needed. 11 and 13 are the core problem makers.
@thin wasp GDPR was an insanely big win for every human on the internet
queen mango
@vocal shard The big music artists were the ones who lobbied for it, not the big tech companies, not YouTube, Google, not even the masses
thin wasp
Well i mean yeah protecting users is good
umbral reef
UUu not really even Elire
thin wasp
I meant more so how the govt tries to mess with what people can do in general
(Im american btw)
alpine crater
google spent more on lobbying the last year than any other US company
queen mango
Yeah..
hidden lake
Not to mention the whole Net Neutrality deal was blown way out of proportion
It just haven't been enacted yet
alpine crater
whirvis, things like that deliberately take a while to show the bad effects
thin wasp
i thought it's just been in limbo
alpine crater
so the people who passed it through can say "Look, nothing bad!"
queen mango
Say, shouldn't we move this to #general-media?
hidden lake
Moving there
floral aspen
you could use a text to speech program
that's really your only option other than buying a new mic
teal robin
and how do i use that? Oof. Dunno all my keyboard controls
vocal shard
A segment aired today on NHK world about VRChat -> https://twitter.com/VRChat/status/1110660370580955136
undone cobalt
woah awesome!
queen mango
I've heard this one from NemiKaiser about this just yesterday
umbral reef
Thats dope
queen mango
It's nice that VRChat gets some well-needed coverage.
Also.. about Virtual Market, it was hosted by some unknown startup company.
Heard it from NemiKaiser again
rigid crescent
now we just need that spicy Vice article about the seedy parts
umbral reef
Its a fairly odd way to describe the posibilities of VR ๐ค (The news segment)
But that is prob. because im used on a totally different look at these things.
urban jasper
The virtual market was pretty neat. I'm looking forward to it coming around again
grave thicket
debufhybfgye3
sudden agate
so i need some help, coming across an issue: my playspace stopped working so someone guided me on how to uninstall that and stuff, now after checking wires and there's no culprit, my headset is just flickering white vigorously
uncut trail
So SteamVR updated
sudden agate
i haven't got playspace mover or anything installed and its just freaking out
sacred drift
anyone elses friends all go offline?
uncut trail
yes
ii cant load public woflds
due lack of people
like the pug or open mic night
ruby needle
That is due to the update that just released
glacial sparrow
anyone have a ghost ping?
placid umbra
@brisk bone Status and friend info are not included with this, but they're being looked at for future use of the new system
median basalt
I can't load the announcements channel and neither can my friends apparently
vocal shard
im not getting the new update
median basalt
Ah, I see. Apparently Steam isn't aware yet. Restarted Steam and no update.
median basalt
I'll wait, not a big deal
safe marsh
wait so i can no longer have a nice looking avatar even only on privates with friends?
median basalt
You can optimize avatars and still have them look nice
safe marsh
bla bla bal optimize this and that
median basalt
People can also turn off the dynamic bone limiter, although in my personal opinion it shouldn't be on by default if the limits are this hard to edit.
umbral reef
@safe marsh Its not like its a button press to turn it off while in private ๐ค
covert chasm
You can have a nice looking avatar, but if a user chooses to have better performance, they can turn the limiter on or off.
safe marsh
Oh ok.
covert chasm
It is a personal user choice, like screen resolution or texture rez in a game.
median basalt
Manually weight painted skirts look better than the default MMD bones anyway. And they're more optimized.
opaque hawk
This is a good thing to be able to toggle
vast tulip
Skirts and hair aren't made of jelly
median basalt
Skirts that end above the knee can look good with just two transforms total in them.
modern sand
Not yours
median basalt
Or weighted to the legs entirely
vocal shard
finally i got it
vast tulip
It says it's 6 transforms in the system
covert chasm
Extend Bananer's method and you can have a dress that goes below the knees with four bones, easily ๐
vast tulip
End bones and root
median basalt
Yeah, that's what I figured as well
teal robin
question; if i favorite an avatar I like but it doesnt save, what does that mean and why?
median basalt
Well you can use end length or end offset, and only be counted as one transform, I think.
vocal shard
why did i need to log in when i got on
oblique crescent
All those avatar in that nek0 world are way above limit and they are public
umbral reef
Report them ๐
median basalt
Normally the last bone in the chain never rotates in dynamic bone, with end length it does. Bananers method is good but I feel like not using a root bone and instead using 1 bone with end length or end offset looks better.
This will require 2 components for the skirt but that shouldn't matter
civic plume
i have not played vrchat much lately, enjoying unity too much but i wanted to know if the new community labs is a flop or not, is anyone using it?
median basalt
People are using it, and some people's worlds have already gotten public through it
civic plume
so in conclusion its not a flop?
vale palm
32 dyn bones, o boii
opaque hawk
Lots of people are using it
civic plume
alrighty
uncut trail
hmm
civic plume
thats all i need to hear, cya later
uncut trail
lack of people online wtf
glacial sparrow
@teal robin i think its just a server bug or something. it wouldnt save my favorites for a solid day, logged in the next day and they were there
covert chasm
We rebooted some stuff when we pushed the update to help with the new notification system, expected that we would drop users
median basalt
Ah, that explains why I got spamfired the same friend request 20 times.
teal robin
oof. Thanks for the info.
median basalt
The glitched safety settings icon is still there. The shield icon is all glitchy as it was in my Canny post. I checked and it wasn't like that last update
quartz osprey
as long as it does not affect the whole screen it isnโt a huge issue
median basalt
Oh I missed that, whoops.
carmine nebula
Now figure out how to limit CPU usage so big worlds can be enjoyable
safe marsh
how about the people that dont give a damn about performance give us an option to intereact with others DB? D:
median basalt
Oh yeah, cross-interaction has been asked for quite a bit
quartz osprey
force alot of components to be gpu instanced (alot of shaders and components can have this enabled but most forget to do so
tacit plank
Is that what instancing is?
idle elm
(no)
median basalt
@quartz osprey instancing is not some magic bullet
I've heard people say "nah, my 40 materials are OK because they're instanced". I'm pretty sure skinned meshes (i.e. pretty much every avatar) cannot be instanced
And instancing can only work if two objects have the same mesh and same shader as far as I know.
covert chasm
GPU material instancing only works in exceedingly specific situations
median basalt
Useful for repeatable buildings in simple cities for example
Static Batching is something you'll see used more often in this game, and even then that only really works for worlds.
Forcing GPU Instancing on will probably not help one bit
vocal shard
me want dynamic bones back
umbral reef
They arent gone- And optimize your stuff then if you want it to always show ;p
inland jay
you have dynamic bones, but by default anything above 32 will be gone.
covert chasm
Even that can be disabled as a user choice. If you want to disable the limiter, it is one click and then you don't have to worry about it again.
dark harness
I even use the limiter in real life. I'm tired of being surrounded by things filled with dynamic bones, like my wife, and these water balloons I keep near my desk for no clear reason
vocal shard
GPU material instancing works for the same model with the same materials that's used many times right?
How do I change the size of my avatar in the game?
so it's useful for reused props
covert chasm
@vocal shard yes, something along those lines. The material must be re-used in specific conditions across multiple meshes IIRC
Unity's docs lay it out
small wing
For some reason this new update is messing with dynamic resolution on oculus
Also i'm noticing some render queue issues in the hub
median basalt
When you load into a world everyone is in the floor
lapis bough
Is anyone else having an issue where their models' dynamic bones aren't functioning at all?
vocal shard
it's actually extremely useful for something i'm working on right now, it fits that exact situation
small wing
Also the blue man avatar is missing, not sure if that was intentional or not.
umbral reef
@lapis bough Read the patch/update notes. You will learn why then.
small wing
Can anyone else tell me if its just me by going into the hub and looking at the VRHat promo adjacent to the mirror?
gaunt jasper
why cant steam & oculus players play together?
vocal shard
idk my dynamic doesn't pass limit
median basalt
@small wing the blueman is only missing the first time you join in.
small wing
So they did change it. ๐ค
median basalt
Yes and it's disappointing. Can't see names as I'm loading into a world lol
umbral reef
@gaunt jasper They can?
gaunt jasper
ive tried joining the same worlds as my friend in oculus. and couldnt. but as soon as i got vrchat on the oculus app it worked fine
umbral reef
Get them to update there game
A new update just happened and if he (or you) are still on the older build you cant see eachother ( #announcements )
ruby needle
one of you was still on the old release
lunar shell
32 is too low!
pastel galleon
it's not too low
lunar shell
oh that's good
ruby needle
insted... you might wanna invest some time in bone merging and weightpainting to bring down your counts
you would be surprised how low you can get while still looking good... if you wanted to
lunar shell
If could find a male avatar I liked but for sure I would do that.
vocal shard
u can turn dynamic with 1 click?
umbral reef
You can turn on and off the setting by toggling a button within the menu yes.
floral aspen
^
it's just the number of bones that are limited has to be changed in the .json file
vocal shard
oh ok
steep turret
it literally does nothing tho. you can turn it off or on and change how many bones right? doesn't seem like a big deal to me
floral aspen
yeah, it's completely optional
median basalt
IK appears to be broken
steep turret
when is ik not broken tho rokk lol
median basalt
IK only works like 30 seconds after they load in, and loading avatars are blank instead. It's not fully broken but still
quartz osprey
did you empty cache after the update Rokk ... have alot of issues after update of old cache files being mixed with new ones
ruby burrow
This update should be very useful for me. As much as I enjoy flowy movements and such, my old CPU is on it's last legs.
placid umbra
IK is taking the same amount of time to load, but you'll see the avatar sooner. It might look weird until the IK loads fully.
vocal shard
how can i look at more dynamics?
inland jay
or just disable the limit.
floral aspen
that too
quartz osprey
^^^ pin that link to all vrchat related channels i would say
would save some headaching repeating questions
floral aspen
it's in the announcement tho.
vocal shard
ty @floral aspen
median basalt
Ah, I see
inland jay
^^^^
median basalt
The blue man avatar seems to be gone when people load, though. Their nameplates are just in the floor.
ruby burrow
I wonder what voluntary limit tiers the community will try to convince others on.
floral aspen
hi TCL
ruby burrow
Either way, the 7000 collision check avatars will be out for anyone that sets even the most generous personal limits.
hallow harness
I have 0 collision checks and 27 transforms yet it still removes my dynamic bones
steep turret
i hope someone blocks me for that. can we do negative dynamic bone limits? i wanna block -99999 bones
humble totem
@median basalt GPU Instancing requires shaders to support it, it can only draw multiple copies of the same mesh, and instanced batches are split by a huge number of things like lightmapping, light probes, reflection probes, different real-time lights, and more.
Skinned mesh renderers are never batched, and Dynamic Batching only applies to very low poly meshes. See https://docs.unity3d.com/2017.4/Documentation/Manual/DrawCallBatching.html for more details.
dark harness
if you set a high negative dynamic bone limit it will steal the bones from other players
steep turret
breh
compact pendant
bruh
umbral reef
But what if im in a room without dynamic bones?
steep turret
is that my wife ๐
compact pendant
hello husband ๐
steep turret
i cant wait to suck up all the dynamic bones like kirby
dark harness
@umbral reef we're not sure, we didn't test, but I assume what would happen is that you would crash into the negative bone world
modern sand
๐ ฑ oneless world
steep turret
boneless world? sign me up lets be weird boneless animals
compact pendant
boneless pizza
queen mango
But I love my wavy hair..
steep turret
only elire will be spared
modern sand
Well, you'd be an invertebrate , which isn't much fun
umbral reef
Sounds scarry- Gonna see if i can find a desktop mute to travel to that world
compact pendant
oh hi boss
unkempt cliff
Still hoping material swaps in mirrors gets fixed eventually.
wow saying hi to me before i even type smh hello queenie and dirk
steep turret
nah fam invertebrates are dope. i can be a squid...thing
queen mango
Or be a Hoppou butterfly
steep turret
i had to wait 12 seconds to say hello too so hello from 12 seconds ago boss
modern sand
oh yeah we can lower the cooldown
ruby burrow
When can we get a regular bone limiter? To see all users in T-Pose only? ๐
umbral reef
Can we get a 1 minute cooldown :^)?
steep turret
"and then ruuubick said let there be lower cooldowns and so it was done..."
modern sand
Use a time machine back to VRChat 5 years ago Squishy ๐
unkempt cliff
But yeah, I will still be waiting for material swaps to be visible in mirrors since that's been a long running issue that didn't even exist before. Not to say that something else could've been the reason for it breaking and the issue might be difficult to fix but I would think it isn't. I'm not a dev though so I can't say that for sure.
steep turret
i like how many us are in ruuubicks name. its almost unnecessary. but thats why i like it.
queen mango
@ruby burrow The "Karl" avatar.
You can still find it in Squid's Old VRChat Cafe world (where they held VRChat's 5th B-day party)
modern sand
lesser Us were taken
steep turret
u have the power to make that not a problem ๐ wink
ruby burrow
Back when Palmer Lucky envisioned a future where VR was controlled using xbox controllers.
modern sand
Well i mean everywhere else and here too
midnight fossil
thanks for ruining your game again with the dynamic bone limit
steep turret
oof someones a little upset
midnight fossil
tons of hours of work thrown out the window? yeah im a little upset
modern sand
It's an option, you don't have to use it
midnight fossil
what?
modern sand
Nor do you friends
steep turret
yeah you can turn it on and off, lol
modern sand
Read about it ๐ฆ
midnight fossil
okay maybe i spoke to soon
steep turret
complaining before reading the updates smh
umbral reef
And can change the value's
And you can optimize stuff also...
grim canopy
I was kicked from the server I was away and had to join back
midnight fossil
i didn't read all of it
steep turret
even better
dark harness
Maybe we should put the word "OPTIONAL" at big letters near the top
queen mango
You can also change it through the config.json file.
I think there's a documentation in VRChat website explaining the stuff about it. @midnight fossil
vast tulip
@midnight fossil also, learn how to get under the defaults?
umbral reef
@grim canopy ingame? They had to do some server swapping what did actually DC users for the update.
grim canopy
No on discord
umbral reef
@dark harness Be sure to also make it blink and glow, else users will still ignore it.
steep turret
put a huge arrow pointing to it like a looney tunes cartoon
umbral reef
Ow well... I guess contact our purple buddies then
floral aspen
lets be real, you could DM every user in here and they still wouldn't read it
steep turret
system calm down youre gonna make it TOO spicy
midnight fossil
:/
median basalt
People are in the floor when loading lol
royal trench
no make it too spicy
floral aspen
lol that's a new feature Rokk
royal trench
people will look at it then
steep turret
like that scene in jumanji rokk
compact pendant
no, don't calm down, go ultra instinct
midnight fossil
i found it in safety settings
royal trench
make it as over the top as possible xD
midnight fossil
small button
silver forge
f?
umbral reef
@grim canopy But just hit up one of the chat mods about it
they should get you an answer atleast
small wing
proceed's to ear blast people
silk agate
Been trying to get the volume working properly, as people said they couldn't hear me
:p
small wing
Click the device in the windows recording options and monitor it through there
silk agate
It looked alrightish when I checked it in my computer settings
small wing
I think it's sufficed to say that this is the one and only update that has forced me not to play. For some reason everything is now broken visually. UI selection is completely messed up, everything somehow looks blurrier and render queue issues are now apparent in some worlds such as the hub.
pseudo bobcat
anyone else having a narrower fov wigh the oculus rift after the update?
small wing
I think this serves a good example for when changing 1 little thing can drastically break others. If anyone thinks this could be on my end and can help with my resolution getting messed up with this update, please DM me.
pseudo bobcat
feels like a tube
small wing
Can't play because this update has caused so much eyestrain.
sonic verge
Ask is the dynamic bone option available in game or it has to be done outside?
small wing
Would post on the canny, but obs doesn't wanna launch.
@sonic verge In the client
You can edit the .json file for custom settings
sonic verge
Aiiight omw turning that shit update off
small wing
Also, 16 GB of ram here. Never have I ever seen my ram usage spike to 99% so fast in my life.
Hoping this update really forced a lot of people to be vocal about it if they had issues. I feel like we just don't help out enough in beta.
sonic verge
Im pretty sure most are vocal about the dyn bonr update, myself included
small wing
Its a feature that can be turned off, but i think the issue here is something client side is freaking out when you toggle them off.
pseudo bobcat
the dyn bone limiter is a 10/10 feature
sonic verge
How lifeless a hair would be if it was still turned on
Like holy i cant imagine hair gells being that static
rigid crescent
People begged for this feature lol
you can just change the numbers if you dont like them, turningi t off is an option too tho
sonic verge
True, but yeah il keep them off
small wing
Does modifying anything in the .json file put me at risk of getting banned?
rough pulsar
If the community as a whole had been more responsible and restrained with DB use this wouldn't have become something that had to happen.
If anything, an optional configurable client-side limiter is the best outcome, as opposed to a hard limit.
small wing
Talking specifically about things unmentioned such as dynamic bones and particles.
wooden rain
ok i call BS on this VRchat youtuber
rough pulsar
No, editing the json file for both the DB limiter and particle limiter are supported features and carry no risk of banning.
wooden rain
never once have i went into a world and have had people come up to me asking wtf i am, 99% of the time its people looking in a mirror and talking to each other
small wing
Alright, cause i'm snooping around that to see if something is causing my resolution drops.
wooden rain
:C
rough pulsar
Modifying the client binaries is where you're gonna get banned.
sonic verge
Question is, if its a game feature why are we asked to fiddle with the json files ourselves rather than given the option to by the devs within the game tho
rough pulsar
Because the priority was to get the feature out and working. A more complete UI for it is likely to come along later.
small wing
Because they are too giddy to release an actual UI.
sonic verge
@wooden rain trust me thats gonna happen often in mirror simulator people
small wing
They must probably think its urgent, for whatever reason.
Some of us are pretty bad when it comes to computering and such. I kinda feel like there should be an easier way to do it too if you ask me.
rigid crescent
They could provide a pre-made one people can edit like the particle limiter page does
sonic verge
@rough pulsar id agree but id add, it will be a cleaner and easier process to do so especially for new players who doesnt know anything about it untill people of green or higher ranks tells them about it
small wing
Always gotta consider the people who only play the games and probably never do anything past a simple virus scan lol.
@rough pulsar Is there an up to date preconfigured .json file somewhere? I'm getting mine from the post they made about particle limiters.
Dunno if that is the one I can use or not, Or if its out of date.
rough pulsar
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-dynamic-bone-limits
The one shown at the end of this page should be valid, as it has entries for the DB limiter.
ruby burrow
For me the limiter is going to be a god send for higher population worlds. Can't see the flowy hair anyway when my screen is flashing black and I can't move.
rough pulsar
I hope it can make it so I can see all user avatars while on stage at improv, instead of having to just turn off all avatars and just enable the people I need to be interacting with.
fathom bolt
be realistic and make the defaults at least times 5..,
small wing
Having trouble trying to find the pre configured DB .json file
ruby burrow
Exactly. It's a far better option than simply disabling everyone entirely.
rough pulsar
Just copy & paste the text from the page into notepad and save as a .json file where it tells you to
small wing
Alright, thanks.
Gonna give this a go and see if it helps.
I assume my issue is lag, oculus never did dynamic resolution this low before but this update really hates my computer.
ruby burrow
I once joined a Pug instance that one of the more popular dance streamers was visiting. Ever been in an instance where over 50% of the players have FBT, and 50% of those have 200 bone ankle length hair? ^ ^;
I just had to close my eyes and talk without moving.
sonic verge
Yes
small wing
Ik looks like wet noodles.
ruby burrow
I wonder whether cloth could work for a "Hime cut" kind of hair style though.
small wing
Still really floppy
I tried once. It only ever looks good on small clothing items like scarfs and bandana's
Which kinda makes me wanna add a bandana to my avatar again now that I say that lol.
sonic verge
Cloth never looks good for anything longer than a short skirt
small wing
Thanks for the inspiration haha
Gonna model and texture a 600 poly plane now so i can slap it on.
๐
vale palm
hmm
ever since the update my vrchat is just set as "running" even tho its closed and theres no process either, do I have to force close steam everytime for this now?
small wing
Was your ram usage really high?
vale palm
nop
small wing
What about disk?
vale palm
i only launched vrc earlier into my homeworld to see the change, everythings good.
vast tulip
That's actually a bug I get with a lot of steam vr games
small wing
I used to get that issue a while ago where steam thinks an app is still running so it won't launch.
vale palm
wasnt launching in vr tho, was desktop
sonic verge
Now that i think about it, it would be nice to have the dyn bone changes added to the safety setting cause, i do think it does count as a safety setting isnt it
vale palm
just did, steam actually ends all steam services on its own when i end it
and its set as running
small wing
Sweet, just make sure the steam client bootstrapper is gone before you relaunch.
After that u should be ๐
small wing
Then it ended when u closed steam, which is a good thing.
small wing
Mine sometimes doesn't though whenever i close the steam.exe. Then i have to manually end the process for the client bootstrapper as well.
It one of those kinda things where i have no idea how it breaks like that, but as long as ending the task works i'm gucci.
vale palm
yea i just dont really want to restart steam all the time @.@
this was fine before the update
small wing
Should only really happen if your superfetch is acting up. Or at least that's what it was for me.
High ram usage so superfetch starts having issues and moves to disk, so to mitigate that I have to restart the service.
Only ever happens when I play VRChat or Unity.
vale palm
ill restart see if that helps
small wing
If you wan't a quick way around, you can go to the start button and right click > run > type services.msc > and find superfetch
restart that and see if it works for you, might help.
But restarting usually squashes all problems with services running at once. So if all else fails go for it.
I'm on a hard drive so its a big oof for me restarting my pc. Load times are crap.
polar rose
pseudo bobcat
oculus client version is pretty fucked atm with certain shaders broken and the field of view narrowed as well
also blurriness
pseudo bobcat
better performance overall
open fossil
x to doubt
teal robin
X
pseudo bobcat
not having steamvr in the middle makes it run better, plus the ASW
median basalt
Oculus Store has no working seated play still and no playspace mover
Performance wasn't any better for me
And they don't support Dash properly still so there's no reason for me to switch
vocal shard
is it just me but when i join my friends it just takes me to a empty room every time
gaunt pine
dude this update made everything worse
hardy seal
this is why you read patch notes before complaining
sonic verge
why should i read patch notes for a social experiment
wooden rain
oh wow i didnt know the headset had a night mode, is that new?
rain isle
o good
vast tulip
@wooden rain which headset?
rain isle
i finished optimizing my dynamic bones like two days ago
wooden rain
yeah its the vive pro
rain isle
just in time
wooden rain
oh really? weird never saw it before
lyric umbra
Anyone else having notification problems?like invites and etc
craggy tapir
not sure where to ask this but i just had an idea about something for my partners stream like how much would it be to get something to jump onto the screen and do an emote or something ?
rough flax
Chill. New invite system
hardy seal
its like when eye tracking went off line the patch notes said that eye tracking was disabled yet at least 5 people a days asking why their eye tracking wouldnt work
south viper
so now that the update is out .. the docs are somewhat implying that the dynamic bone limiting isn't on by default but they're not stating it either way, so is it on or off?
it probably should be clearer than it is
soft skiff
I forget, how do I get to Gunters tonight for the show if I don't have the room bookmarked?
soft skiff
nevermind... just joined a friend
south viper
hmm
sonic verge
set to 0
south viper
lol 0
rough flax
So, this update, the dynamic bone limiter is ON by default so dynamic bones do not work on an avatar of the transforms count is above 32.
south viper
annoying
and it also counts transforms which don't even matter still I bet
the original avatar performance thing was off by 1 on every single script, so if you had a lot of scripts the count would be progressively more and more incorrect
hardy seal
congrats by reading the patchnotes you know where to look to check if theyre not working instead of just popping in a chat "WhYbOnEmAcHiNeBrOkE"
south viper
I think I'd prefer it if all the limiting features were opt-in, since it's not like this game is for people with potato computers anyway
but safety stuff was partially on by default too, so aeh. they just dislike nice things
sonic verge
i mean they implemented the saftey setting, its bad enough they didnt just put it there instead
dark harness
We do. I'm constantly scheming to destroy nice things.
south viper
yeah not putting it in with the rest of the safety stuff is still baffling to me too
dark harness
"Look, a nice thing" I'll say as I'm stomping them
south viper
people said "but it isn't safety because you can't cause a seizure using only dynamic bones", but if you want to make that a challenge I'll happily take it up
hardy seal
but people with not potato computers were having issues i have an i5 7600k and a 2070 which is not a potato and when someone turns with a model with a shitload of transforms i dont want to be down at 20fps
south viper
just give me a safe environment where it won't actually cause one :V
I don't have those issues and my computer isn't really that much faster. the only times I had performance issues at all were when something like 40+ people were joined
I would have been fine with just saying "ok only 10 people can have their dynamic bone running so we'll just rake in the active radius when more people are present"
hardy seal
or you can have a button that someone with a good pc to press and allow them to see them
south viper
sounds awkward
sonic verge
its already weird enough whenever you just wanna show something nice but you have to question them first "you have animations on" kinda made me broke
south viper
with that I just assume everyone already turned the limiters off until they say otherwise
I literally have text on my avatar dissing people who turn off shaders and as far as I know, to date, only 3 people have noticed it
frozen trout
was just trying. Seems that may be the case
sonic verge
i think they also broke steam login
south viper
oh no not again
uncut trail
oh rip
hardy seal
well to be fair 90% of the time people just run around with annoying or obnoxious shaders i usually turn them on when i enter a world and depending on how annoying they are i turn them off and on
sonic verge
the option to login by steam is no longer available
vocal shard
i always jsut turn off avatars on a person to person basis
i have sounds and stuff muted for new people but generally i have everything enabled
queen mango
Yeah.. I still use the Safety settings for these.
hardy seal
i gotta wonder how many riccardos and gnomes i have avatars turned off
south viper
yeah I turn them off individually rather than using safety
hardy seal
its easy when you know what avatar is doing it but when your screens are going ballistic and dubstep is being shoved into your ears form some other corner of the world you kinda gotta mute without prejudice
south viper
I guess, I don't have experiences like that
hardy seal
just shut em all down
south viper
the few times I've had issues it has been an immediate crash or it has been obvious who it was
sonic verge
thats what i see daily and i gotten too used to it to even think of turning it off lol
south viper
the few times it was a crash were all around staff >:|
staff walking around with "please crash me" signs on their backs
rough flax
To figure out who crashed you with a particle or shader is easy but takes time.
hardy seal
god most annoying was some asshole glitched through the door to the pubs basement as i was talking with some people couldnt remeber the dudes name and he just went to town down there with some shit dubstep cranked to 10 and world shaking shaders
rough flax
If someone crashes me, Iโll take the time to figure out who and wipe out that trusted account ๐
Just start blocking people until it stops. @hardy seal
sonic verge
i cant imagine how dead the game is to shaded tbh
hardy seal
i jsut shut off al sounds and shader s till i left
worthy tapir
Does anyone else have an issue where you can't select people? I wil hover my laser over them but if I try to select them it does not work.
I have to spam my trigger and only after 100+ tries does it actually work.
pseudo bobcat
@worthy tapir this happens if your FPS is really ass, it somehow messes with the laser selection. Which is somewhat counter-intuitive since blocking/hiding avatars is usually done when your FPS is low already
so I have to also spam the selection to be able to hide the very poor avatars
willow solstice
is there something odd happening in the oculus store version?
shaders are kind of breaking randomly...
modern sand
We're aware, working on it atm
willow solstice
Okay, thanks.
uncut trail
random crashes going thriugh portals
knotty grotto
invites arnt showing up for me anyone else having this problem
spare silo
does anyone know the discord server for the great pug
rigid crescent
@idle elm would probably know, he seems to know a bit about the pug
opaque hawk
Lol
vast tulip
if anyone is having issues logging in, log in, then, quit the app, restart it. that worked for me
mine kept looping from login screen, saying "logging in..." back to login screen. quitting and restarting logged me in without needing to re-enter the info
indigo fern
The classic, turn it off then turn it back on again
small wing
@spare silo Afaik he doesn't mention a discord on any of his social accounts. Twitter and his website only mention a patreon.
Must be open to DM's and thats all from what I see.
Was considering donating to his Patreon a while back, but there isn't a discord server so I feel iffy about it.
glacial sparrow
Is there a fix for favorites and friends taking about a day to show up?
Like I hit add favorite on avatars for hours and they don't add, next day they show up. Is that a server issue or is there anything I can do about that
craggy hull
I was having similar problem few days ago, just for favoriting worlds though, it took 1 hour to update properly. It is probably just a networking issue, which hopefully will be improved/solved with recent changes to the way how client communicates with server in the background. I don't think you can make it better other than clearing cache and restarting the game, which may or may not work.
frozen trout
Posted Video on the new Dynamic Limit and how it works / how to change it in avatar section (don't wanna double post)
wet tartan
I'm stuck on the VRChat loading screen after I launch. Is it down?
Server status didn't say anything recent
marsh goblet
wooden rain
man people who are blue named and up in VRchat are rude AF lol
legit was told to muck off and was blocked because im still a visitor rank, this is like highschool xD
queen mango
Sounds a bit like a dog-eat-dog thing there.
wooden rain
yep
wet tartan
Well I dunno man. I cleared my cache, I validated the game cache or whatever with steam
I didn't try changing my homeworld yet
vocal shard
ha so i love how i spent hours on dyanmic bones for my avatars and to find out that it doesnt matter because you guys limit them recently
was it to prevent lag? probably, however i hang with my friends and they have avatars with over 70 bones on dyanmic bones and no one lags when we played
you can turn off the limiter in the safety settings
took me a bit to find, you guys put it on by default and a lot of people dont even check there settings on vrchat. the amount of people that complained about me not having dyanmic bones and then i had to tell them to turn off the damn setting is getting a little bit annoying
craggy hull
Yeah, i also spent quite some time on my DB one year ago, and i'm currently trying to remove some of them to went under the default limits. But it doesn't work, in avatar stats, they are clearly under the default limits, but the limiter still disabled them regardless.
rigid crescent
they can learn to read then
cold talon
Time to make the dynamic bone version of blocked shader sign
When dyn bones get blocked a little pop up appears on the avatar informing them that dynamic bones got removed ๐
๐
Grab your output log and do a report to vrchat thru mail
vocal shard
why are people loading on the ground
wet tartan
And now suddenly Discord doesn't work, VRChat doesn't work, and NOW my browsers don't work. I'm going the fuck to sleep you guys have a good night
vocal shard
why is there a problem after every update, i know unity is a shit engine but damn
wet tartan
I hate my life
cold talon
Unity is a pretty good engine wdym
small wing
Just got ddossed because I can't afford a vpn, nice.
How do I go about reporting this?
Tried searching output logs but the guy's name isn't showing in there
Found it
static wigeon
Yah
I got a cheese bag too, they don't want you to post their names here, so you have to email the culprits to vrchatmods
wraith tangle
animations are broken for vrheadset users
versed hound
When I saw the update I immediately thought "what did they break this time"...
My avatar surely...
None of my damn dynamics work...
I like my dynamics...
queen mango
The option is on by default. To disable them, go to the Safety Settings
umbral reef
Read the patch notes ..
All info as to when it won't work, how to undo it and ECT is all listed there
cold talon
Uh oh, it will be illegal to play vrc in eu
cold talon
We all know they won't actually enforce it, but still intresting to think what would happen if they would
wraith tangle
plus people with anything under a GTX 980 got fucked by the update before today's update some of them can't even be in a world with more than 6 people
lapis yoke
why in the world would VrChat get banned in EU LOL
south viper
sigh, the SDK still doesn't see any dynamic bone in the avatar check in there ๐
they could have at least fixed that
odd oak
@lapis yokeas mist avatars contain some copyright content and it would require all this To be removed. U do not think it Will happen but there is enough if a chance that it is concerning
sick plaza
Making option on by default is retarded. If u lag u should enable it, dont enforce on anyone. Instead its just hidden under small button so ppl will not even notice its on.
lapis yoke
nah it wont lol. cause VrChat is not making money from it.
lapis yoke
doesn't matter. the rules are not going to apply for alot of things. and wont be a thing for months. and VrChat wont get affected.
sick plaza
Maybe not as game
But ammount of copyrighted content on it will now most likely enforce twitch to either ban it as a game or block eu peeps
lapis yoke
not gonna happen either. cause that means every single game could be copyright striked. or worse.
sick plaza
It just takes few mmd creators (a lit hate vrc) to fill complains about their work being illegaly used on streams
But thats how it works. Tge article 13 is retarded and unreal
lapis yoke
again it wont happend. cause otherwise majority of streamers would have been banned already. which is not the case
sick plaza
They enforced impossible on many platforms just because got bribed by media companies
lapis yoke
what platforms? that matter? youtube f up them self. and so did facebook.
sick plaza
Again, you look at it thru glass what was until now. But everything changed. Deadline is 2 years. Twitch is now enforced to either start ftering or block eu
inner cape
cause a lot of artists don't have proper copyright on their stuff, they just make stuff from mmd bases and other clothes found on their mmd libraries into models and then people take those for vrc
lapis yoke
no they are not.. majority of the users of twitch is from Eu/asia. not Usa..
which means they would have to block well over 60% of their users same goes for youtube
inner cape
um, twitch is a big thing in na too ๐ค
sick plaza
All content hosting platforms lol. Imgur, reddit, twitter, fb, discord, yt, cloud storage, 9gag, porn pages, rabbit, steam...
lapis yoke
i didn't say it wasnt imo.. i said majority of users are from Eu and Asia
sick plaza
All of these will need to have filters (no more images on discord) or block europeans
queen mango
Well, majority of them are in US and EU, for that matter
lapis yoke
also false
queen mango
Should this be in #general-media?
sick plaza
Yeah but if they want to operate for europeans they have to do it
lapis yoke
they cant control discord either. nor are they allowed to control users on discord that would interfere with the most important rule of them all.
queen mango
Incoming wall of text
sick plaza
U surely dont even know how the directive works here lol. It said they have to and this will be enforced by national laws in next 2 years. And discord can control users by blocking images upload or files upload. Discord will be obligated to block upload of copyrighted content. If it wont, discord will ge liable to heavy sues or recompensation.
Example: artist makes an art and puts with his copyright on platform that verifies its his. Someone ctrl c ctrl v this on popular dirscord server. Discord did not prevent uploading it (law requires it to!), It was copyrighted and artist was european.Artist fills compmaint and discord has to remove content next time. Now it repeats once again, same picture Assuming discord does not block eu, artist can sue discord now for recompensation, and is almost guaranteed to win beford european court.
The amount of copyright trolling, impossible filtering the directive will bring is insane.
Dont try to see logic in it. Its retarded.
cold talon
Holy
sick plaza
And this is for all platforms.. eh i am triggered by this directive again, stopping to talk about it.
lapis yoke
@sick plaza it wont happen.. already twitch streamers and youtubers are required to get permission from developers/creators to use their material. so you diff did not understand the rule. it wont be as crazy as you think
queen mango
I doubt it.
lapis yoke
also memes,parody etc is excluded from the rule.
queen mango
Yeah.. though there could be some exemptions.
lapis yoke
and also it wont be the users that gets the blame or hit it will be the company. that is responsible for making sure it complies with the rules. aka asking the owners if its okay.
queen mango
Yeah.. that too
lapis yoke
which most likely also means this. that ever company is going to have a Agreement on their site that says we allow content creators etc to use our material.
cold talon
Just have a disclaimer on sites:
By posting on this website you agree that the content might be re-uploaded on other websites/parts of this site whitout prior notice
Ez cheat
sick plaza
Twitch will have to ask companies for streaming permissions. Stream chat is falling under copyright rules. Same all graphics and music on stream. Till now user was responsible for violations. Now whole platform is. They will have to monitor streamers much more because, as you said they are responsible now.
Vrc is a social game and as a game with default avatars its fine. But all customs, music, world rips inside are hard to be excluded. If a game becomes too costly to be monitored do you think twitch will be happy with it?
umbral reef
@lapis yoke if a company can or spend billions making a system to prevent copyright to even more then currently. Or the link tax what's just as worse means they will get block things
A US group has no reason to risk getting a claim and can just straight up block the content in all of the EU to save there ass
umbral reef
Music on twitch is already being enforced and users have already been banned. Instead of the blame being on users it's on companies.
Same applies for what counts as fair use. A company doesn't want anything risky so it just blocks it all...
lapis yoke
they wont block Eu. cause that means they would lose 90% of their users..
sick plaza
You still dont get how stuff just changed, do you...
carmine nebula
That's a real high percentage to be considered EU
sick plaza
And 90? 40
carmine nebula
Trying to enforce the use of users models in this game is like winning the lottery
lapis yoke
@sick plaza at this point you dont get it do you? it wont affect anything for a crap long time or not affect it at all.. cause its as every other rule In EU. it's up to the country to decide if they accept it or not.
sick plaza
They can just say all european user can only stream and watch minesweeper
carmine nebula
I'm surprised how long this rant has gone on for
lapis yoke
its the same rule with Gambling boxes. only Germany and a few other Eu countries heavily restrict it.
thats false @sick plaza countries does not have to
cold talon
Aight sorry to interrupt, but on behalf of ruuubick I have to inform you that this should move to #general-media,
carmine nebula
Don't backup an argument without evidence. Actions speak louder then words
umbral reef
For programs like google news they will probably be fully blocked within the EU instead of dealing with the link tax.
Or they just block any and all news companies that will not work with them for free...
lapis yoke
should just post it in random-chat lol ๐
lapis yoke
@naive pike laggy in what sense?
cold talon
Overclock your pc to make it less laggy 
carmine nebula
My gaming computer can't overclock
I can stay at a solid 60 FPS (With VR) Until the numbers start rising in worlds
lapis yoke
thats just cause of shaders particles etc.
carmine nebula
i7 7700 1050ti
lapis yoke
cause it runs on Cpu rather then gpu
carmine nebula
I know
lapis yoke
also you have a rather weak gpu mate ๐
cold talon
2080 
carmine nebula
VRChat's the only game I've encountered this type of lag towards in big rooms with a lot of people
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See I'm not that bad
A good 12+ people is when I start seeing results
lethal summit
vrchat ded?
carmine nebula
Depends on the world and avatars
And a huge chunk of this community plays this game with crap PCS
Or, to what VRChat doesn't find good enough
lapis yoke
underpowered for Vr that is @carmine nebula ๐
carmine nebula
For VRChat apparently
lapis yoke
majority of people uses minimum requirement for VR .
carmine nebula
All other VR games I've played cannot compare to the oopsies of vrchat
lapis yoke
well yea. its odd how much problems in performence the game has.
lapis yoke
nah Vrchat barely requires anything. but then again it does. cause its badly coded.
carmine nebula
Very aware, hostile
I'm sure I can factor in the clustercrap of clutter my hard drive gets when I find out it's full from like 4-5 days of playing VRC
From avatars
lapis yoke
well thats why i dont download avatars. i just have worlds. which atm is prob around 30gb.
cold talon
Vrc does run on more than One core tho ๐ค
stray trout
cold talon
Indeed it heavily loads one of the threads, but the rest is spread as much as possible on other cores
lapis yoke
i think the Networking API is running on multiple cores. but again Photon Networking is kinda meh.
carmine nebula
Intel(R) Core I7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80Ghz, 2808 Mhz, 4 Cores, 8 Logical Processors
^ Would be what I've got
cold talon
The dinamic bone calculation run on a separate thread too from what I heard
lapis yoke
it most likely does
carmine nebula
Had to double check and see
cold talon
2.8 on 4.ores 8 threads ๐ค
carmine nebula
I mean in some terms VRChat Could be worse on my end
Honestly I've seen crappier PCs from others suffer from little amounts of players
faint leaf
Any1 know why my audio source gets curved even though i choose linear rolloff?
vocal shard
@carmine nebula yea, this game is poorly optimized and badly coded. but its doing its job so we can meet new ppl
I wonder if any one know how to trigger drawing with the avatar in my profile picture? I also wonder if anyone know how to make stuff like watch video in video rooms/listen to linked music in music rooms work? Thanks .
cold talon
@faint leaf that is the sdk enforcing a custom rolloff, so that only people close to you can hear the audio
faint leaf
@cold talon thats good and all, but its a steep rolloff so not even people two meters away can hear it
Barely 1 meter
cold talon
Yeah I know it's quite aggressive, so people just increase the max distance alot
faint leaf
So what do you recommend to put the max distance at?
To get it atleast so that people up to 5 meters away can hear it?
And then the steep rolloff can happen
Because i do not want to put it at crazy numbers to annoy people, but friends complain that they cant even hear it remotely close
cold talon
I suffer from the same issue tbh, normally set it to like 20 but that seems to be still too low
teal lark
hi
mortal crag
Morning all
wraith tangle
how the hell is my newest private avatar is banned before it's even been used
languid igloo
I'm experiencing upload errors and long uploading times. Anyone else?
wraith tangle
same
true sky
is it me or can we not login right now?
mortal crag
Well there was an update earlier, so thereโs probably some bugs
astral pollen
has anyone expereanced going into a world and the whole world is red ....
pine portal
Is anyone having issues with Dynamic Bones not working ingame?
astral pollen
you have to disable the dynamic bone limiter under performance settings club
vocal shard
the game's fucked again, brace for emergency rollback or bugfixing time over the next few days
astral pollen
ugh worlds with shaders are screwd for the rift users
idle cipher
jesus christ does anyone crash when they go through a portal or switch avatars. Seems to be happening more often for me
astral pollen
Its happened to me when i go to an invite+ portal or a world thar has portals in them
unkempt terrace
D o e s V R C h a t s u p p o r t t o n g u e t r a c k i n g ?
unkempt terrace
danger danger, unknown link screams its a keyloggerrrr! we're all gonna die
vocal shard
ๅ ้ค่ฟไธช
unkempt terrace
ๅ ้ค่ชๅทฑ
cold talon
Would be dope to have like a component for that, so additional trackers could be mapped to bones
unkempt terrace
I don't understand why Oculus can't make some super simple trackers that can be picked up by the current sensors we have. I feel like it shouldn't be that difficult to do. :/
cold talon
Currently it can only pic up 3 trackers because the way its written so still satisfies the virtual camera thing
unkempt terrace
Jeez...
cold talon
Nolo seems to be the closest you can get whitout buying a full vive lighthouse system
cosmic sentinel
Hey fellas, some peeps are saying that they cant access vrchat, can anyone confirm this?
cold talon
Atleast 12 reports already
cosmic sentinel
Roger roger, friend of mine got in via through the application in the folder itself
Not through steam
Just another day in paradise aint it lads
vocal shard
my avatar wont work anymore, its red afterr the Update, i didnt changed ANYTHING. this update broke, again, everything.
welcome to vrchat
cosmic sentinel
Agghhh... Truly sorry to hear that, friendo
cold talon
Try reuploading, that happens sometimes
cosmic sentinel
^
vocal shard
nah, im done with vrchat
cosmic sentinel
Understandable, Good Lyvon. Take a break and a breather, let the devs settle it out. Once again, my condolences.
vocal shard
^
median basalt
Ok cya
vocal shard
every so often my game just explodes into a million colors until i switch worlds or open my player menu
its happened like 3 times already, plus the little glow effect on objects/buttons obscure my view like crazy
median basalt
Damn, I reported a world that was clearly using portals to bypass optimization limits. It hasn't been taken down. I sent a mod email and everything
wraith tangle
why is this game so broke this update
covert linden
I had no problems.. it wad also my first day on vr
gaunt pine
the update fucked all rift users in the ass
covert linden
My boyfrienf had no problems and he used rift
jovial spire
there is something bug in vrchat avatar loading but my friend are still red
wraith tangle
well i cant use custom animations and i have a rift
covert linden
@jovial spire clear your cache
jovial spire
hmm?
wraith tangle
i did
covert linden
@wraith tangle animations are in the setting menu, emotes. Gestures are done by using yiur fingers..
@jovial spire Yoour cache, one sec
gaunt pine
you have to use steam vr with the rift now otherwis you get blurriness, narrowed vision and most shaders are broken
covert linden
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
jovial spire
ok
covert linden
You should be doing that monthly Zelsius
wraith tangle
you must be stupid if you think i don't know that also you just said today is your first day
gaunt pine
lol i have to do that daily
wraith tangle
i have 2 years
gaunt pine
i have 3123 hours xD
sturdy kiln
any girls wanna chat?
covert linden
Cool then fix your provlem
wraith tangle
i cant if its the bloody game that fucked it in the first place im not the only person having problems with this fucking update
covert linden
You can go to #user-support-old and if nobody knows a fix, you can contact vrsupport
gaunt pine
@covert linden everyone has contacted support
covert linden
Then itll be fixed soon
gaunt pine
probably not
wraith tangle
no it wont because the last bug wasnt fixed
primal wave
Why do i always get logged out of vrchat
covert linden
If the game doesnt even function for some, they will do their best. They just have a lot on their plate
wraith tangle
it has fucked people who use a 960 70 and 80
primal wave
The game wont even load now
wraith tangle
im on a 1060
gaunt pine
i use 1060
wraith tangle
ehy another person on the 1060
gaunt pine
yeye
primal wave
peasants. Nothing beats my ATI Radeon HD 4870x2
covert linden
Ill be getting the 1660ti soon
gaunt pine
to fix our issue @wraith tangle run steam vr with the oculus app for now even though its a masive strain on our cpu
wraith tangle
tried that
gaunt pine
hmmm
wraith tangle
and then my friend who has a 970 is having issues since the update before this one where they cant go to worlds with more than 6 people
gaunt pine
play in desktop i guess
wraith tangle
it breaks in desktop too
when i do a particle animations my screen zooms in and freezes
gaunt pine
sane
true sky
avatar is now hanging and now all avatars i select are red now
wraith tangle
yeah im hating that too
gaunt pine
i spent months on my animations and they are all fucked again so i feel you
covert linden
Sounds like something theyd fix if a mass is experiancing them
gaunt pine
lol you dont know the devs then xD
wraith tangle
yeah all mine a scuffed too
gaunt pine
great game just needs more attention
covert linden
Im on this discord a lot and I know when shit breaks they fix it, were you here for the avx problem
Basically an update made it so anyone without an avx couldnt play the game at all
brisk umbra
i mean i am in here when i can and they know issues when people tell them
covert linden
But they did their best to fix it despite it being aa mayve
gaunt pine
ive been here for over a year
brisk umbra
well i have been in the discord since october vrchat February last year
wraith tangle
then why did they delete a steam discussion page
tawny sable
Hi rea
covert linden
Hihii
brisk umbra
btw rae enjoy your first day of vr its fun xD
brisk umbra
that's good
tawny sable
Oh you played it on desktop before?
covert linden
Yeag
gaunt pine
they deleted the steam discussion?
brisk umbra
what headset?
covert linden
Ive been a desktop user since maay
ACER Wmr, but ive got an oculus for when I get my pc
tawny sable
Well, hound is gonna have a birthday stream and my avatar for him is ready, make sure to come check it out :p
covert linden
Hes my new friend now xD
brisk umbra
that's good you have a backup i have a oculus xD
covert linden
Its just fr when I get my pc
wraith tangle
yeah @gaunt pine it was about how broken this update is
covert linden
My wmr can work on my intel 630 and my oculus cant
tawny sable
also, sorry to interrupt, buuut
https://image.prntscr.com/image/xFKUsw8tQoqEZpSnMapOZA.png
anyone know why my particles are stuck to my hips instead of following my sword?
covert linden
gaunt pine
yes
tawny sable
Thx
gaunt pine
@tawny sable i can help you
tawny sable
Sure. DM?
sturdy kiln
any girls wanna chat?
gaunt pine
its rigid body
tawny sable
?
gaunt pine
@sturdy kiln pick up girls in another server no one cares
tawny sable
Sword is parented to the palsms and simulation space is local
glacial sparrow
Join a random room and there will be girls lol
brisk umbra
grill's on the internet? ๐ฎ
gaunt pine
girls with like 9 guys around them xD
alpine crater
damn they finally added dynbones limiters
tawny sable
I was judging that guy for having the default pfp, convicend he already got banned here and had to make a new account
then i looked at my pfp
glacial sparrow
Nah I joined a random room and it was mostly ladies
gaunt pine
your issue with attaching the particles is with rigid body settings
tawny sable
Uuuuhhh.... what what and the what?
gaunt pine
i had the same issue with my fire attached to my shoulder armor
tawny sable
Mind getting on a call for a minute or two? I have no clue what any of that meas. I'm just an artist
gaunt pine
yeah lol i dont mind
tawny sable
Sure, drop me a call. It says I cant message you because we dont share a server?
primal wave
Please add a max polygons slider for the avatars
tawny sable
Whatever
Polycount doesnt impact performace
or rather, almost 0 performance impact
gaunt pine
let me open unity really quick and ill show you instead of tell you
primal wave
it does not?
alpine crater
until you get someone using a 70k avatar through modded SDK upload
tawny sable
It does, but way less than having 15+ materials and textures