vrchat-general-2

[vocal shard]

But their culture is amazing !

[spring bronze]

Hmm I’ve never been interested in the idea of overseas travel

[vocal shard]

Most gamers are located in the US right ?

[queen mango]

A lot of them are in EU too

[vocal shard]

So yeah, i don't know where to go and live a peaceful life

Japan culture is awesome

US looks like a country full of possibilities aswell

I'm lost ! 😫

[queen mango]

Oh, regarding gamers, I also heard that there are a lot of gamers from Asia

[vocal shard]

Perfect

Now i'm even more lost 😆 😭

[spring bronze]

Lol

[umbral reef]

There are loads of gamers from everywhere though so--
Its legit more about how big a country is then anything else

[keen moth]

hey guys

[spring bronze]

The only interest I have in England that’s it but I’m more interested in staying where I am

The roast beefs probably won’t accept a British speaking French man

[vocal shard]

No they will, it's fine

Just hide perfectly 😉

[spring bronze]

Oh hiding myself is easy just the temptation of exposing myself out of curiosity is the problem

[vocal shard]

Yeah

[winged thistle]

why am I getting random friend requests from people on here?

@livid crescent do I know you?

[vocal shard]

Well

Change your privacy settings

.-.

[tame fractal]

yeetus im new hello

[zinc solar]

LOl

Finally done.

Made a mmodel of that racoon girl and chicken girl from shield hero.

[sharp lagoon]

thats cool 😮

[vocal shard]

Sounds cool as hell but havent seen or heard anything about shield hero

[zinc solar]

Anime stuff. Had to make the models from scratch. Luckily some assets I already had sped things up.

Even after being a pain in the ass, these models are still free to the guy who asked xD
GOML

[vocal shard]

I just looked it up

78% of all vrchat avatars are anime girls

[sharp lagoon]

it is an animu paradise uwu

[vocal shard]

65% of that is neko

Or I guess that just means cat girl, you know what I mean

[sly nexus]

Well, the word literally means "cat"

[analog canopy]

He is a professional anime speaker, you dare say he is wrong?

[zinc solar]

Don't forget the erp

Worst side of vrchat and most of the avatar requests I get

[cursive skiff]

Tfw people just come up to you and rub your horns saying “I remember you!”

@zinc solar I’m amazed about all that tbh. It’s so weird. Like why would you even wanna erp it’s just boring as fuck

[vocal shard]

I swear the god, i see you in VRChat, i'll rub your horns like no one ever did !

[cursive skiff]

Being lewd is one thing I’m just that! But erp that’s a whole bother lever

@vocal shard add me then! Same name as on discord

[urban jasper]

I personally don't care if that's what you're into, but for fuck's sake don't do it in a public room!

[vocal shard]

Who wanna play?

[sharp lagoon]

ria doesnt get why erp would be so interesting in vrchat when you both just clip against each other uwu

clip clip clip

[vocal shard]

@cursive skiff Wonder how your avatar looks like though

[cursive skiff]

Yeah exactly that’s where I’m at is like y’all just clip though eachother.

@vocal shard I’ll send you a dm pic it’s a basic bitch popular public avatar

[vocal shard]

"Bitch" xD

[keen sigil]

gives a whole new meaning to "clipping"

[vocal shard]

goes to kiss
"Look into my eyes"
Clips and literally looks into eyes

XD

[sharp lagoon]

reveals disgusting mouth textures

[vocal shard]

To ruin ERP just say you don't have a pee pee

Works 100% guarantee

[keen sigil]

You clearly havent met some of the people I have met

[vocal shard]

What ?

[cursive skiff]

@vocal shard when people try to rub my down under naughty parts I tell them there’s just a flap down there Kek and then point to my horns instead

[vocal shard]

@cursive skiff You got some serious problems with horns,
Atleast you're different 😃

[keen sigil]

Some people I know, Saying something like that would just flip another switch for them. Role play right into it.

I've met...weird people

[vocal shard]

I've met people doing it in VRC
My eyes are burnt by bleach now

[cursive skiff]

AHAHAHA I have fun with it just to get the reactions of people

I play around with folks to see how they are and what they do that’s my enjoyment or making my gf super jealous

Either which way it’s fun for me!

Yes I’m a garbage individual

[keen sigil]

I met one person who had a toy in them while the other had control of the remote...some weird kind of exhibitionism

[vocal shard]

I've met some underage girls lewding others...
Please make this end !

[keen sigil]

I've met traps

so. many. traps

[vocal shard]

Traps are fine compared to everything else

[sharp lagoon]

people must like activating their trap cards

[cursive skiff]

@vocal shard AHAHAHA I went on a “date” with s thot was sitting there like “WANNA TOUCH MY HORNS?” She too lit too serious

I wanna learn the trap voice to fuck with people in real life fuck doing it in vrchat

[vocal shard]

xDD

[cursive skiff]

Or fuck with people on other discord servers

[vocal shard]

You are amazing !

[cursive skiff]

So I’m looking for a mentor

[vocal shard]

Well i don't have a voice so will be hard to be a trap :/

[cursive skiff]

Oof no mic?

[keen sigil]

yeah, I heard someone using a voice changer that was actually extremely good, and I always wondered what voice changer they were using. I've used voice changers before but that was on point

[cursive skiff]

Well voice changers never really work out that good there’s always a tinge

[vocal shard]

@cursive skiff No, irl mute

[cursive skiff]

Something that’s noticeable wrong.

Really @vocal shard? Like dead ass honest no bull shit?

[keen sigil]

that's what I thought as well, but this guys voice changer wasn't noticably wrong.

[vocal shard]

What's the point of lying on that ?

[cursive skiff]

@keen sigil hmmm damn I’d slap him and take his vc then,

[umbral reef]

@keen sigil A voice changer only slightly changes your voice
unless you support it a bit it wont be really good

[cursive skiff]

@vocal shard what’s the story behind all that then?

[umbral reef]

And knowing how to set it up right and using a payed one helps loads

and not having a shitty microphone

[cursive skiff]

That also helps too

[vocal shard]

@cursive skiff Got an accident and bam, gone.

[cursive skiff]

Shiiiiit damn bro really? Hold on.

[keen sigil]

yeah. I gotta get a better mic

Not that I actually ever try to change my voice, have never done it in VRChat, at least

another "Never have I ever" question I don't get to move up on sigh

[cursive skiff]

Kek

[keen sigil]

I mean, considering how most of the questions are in those games I suppose it's a good thing I'm typically sitting on the first or second line at the end of the game

[umbral reef]

Hmm True

[keen sigil]

walk of shame indeed

Not that I judge other people
(I'm judging other people)

[covert linden]

I never move forward its sad

But usually I do just enoughto the point where they dont tell me to leave

[keen sigil]

I've never been told to leave...people do that?

[covert linden]

If youre stuck at the beginning theyll ask why are you even there and be mega rude

[keen sigil]

"Because **** you, buzz off fly boy." would be my reply there

last part may or may not be edited depending on avitar being used

I return rudeness with stubburn rudeness.

or laughter, because I'm so jolly

[low nimbus]

Should I make a character that is "chocolate" or "vanilla"?

[keen sigil]

Chocolate

[low nimbus]

BET

I feel like there's not too many chocolate characters

[keen sigil]

ye

[low nimbus]

sad day

[keen sigil]

also, extreme lack of male characters.

And a chocolate male character?

pfft what's that?

[low nimbus]

ooof

Yep definitely gonna make a chocolate male. The waifus can't resist

[keen sigil]

hells yeah

make him flexible too. Gotta be able to do a dance in one of the dance rooms and make it look good

[low nimbus]

ooof

[keen sigil]

Increasing the male to female avatar ratio back to 1:100 one avitar at a time

[low nimbus]

At that point I feel like I might hear those cursed words of "I'm pregnant with your VR baby" the next day if I go to the vr club.

oof

the struggles of a chocolate male in vr chat

[keen sigil]

wew

[low nimbus]

lmao

BUT my dance moves would be legit

[keen sigil]

I got 99 problems but my dance aint' one

[low nimbus]

omg lmao

[keen sigil]

my 99 VR babymama's tho...

[low nimbus]

[cursive skiff]

Jester needs them rubs... been too long

Ive only started giving people super gonorrhea! Thats a detail though

[keen sigil]

[cursive skiff]

Please.... Give me rubs!

[vocal shard]

looks around
Here ?!

[keen sigil]

no rubs were given

[vocal shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral nova]

Hurts

[lean wharf]

I got a question for the people that have the vive

I need to give the Base Station across corners

Like X

Also will my pc run vr? i7-2600 RX 580 4gb 16gb ddr3

I5-4590 is recommended so I wonder

[umbral reef]

Might not be too great for Vrchat with its low single core speed but for most Vr games it should be fine.

[lean wharf]

Mostly I wanna play Beat Saber

[umbral nova]

If VRChat actually used all cores of the PC properly, that'd be nice

Currently it technically does, but it mostly uses one core

[umbral reef]

It does use most though--
Plenty of the scripts and ect cant be split over cores and thats the main problem

[lean wharf]

VRChat is a game that would be on my PC but I would play it rare

[umbral nova]

And the rest as overflow

[lean wharf]

My friend has problem with the Wireless Kit cause it uses he's CPU to 100% in VRChat

Even tho he has a i7-8700k

[ruby needle]

i had the 2600k before i upgradet to a 6700k but i had the oculus, from my knowledge tho, vive is a little bit less taxing.
it's useable but definitely not the greatest for VRChat.

[median basalt]

Wireless VR sounds like a disaster anyway

I used to be on a 2500k and it was miserable, 10 FPS in full instances

Now that I'm on an 8700k and I can hide laggy people, things have been better

[meager solstice]

My friend who has 2 1080s and a i7-8700k has wireless for his vive doesn’t get a above 70fps..... wireless takes away frames significantly

[ruby needle]

nah, its more vrchats general performance

[north axle]

I need some info about international communities.

I know something about Japanese users, but I don't have much about others.

[lethal summit]

hackers in vrchat

crashing the lobby+ dropping portals to uganda right on u /breaks the maps as well.

buttons on map dissappears..

shaders broke ..

also spamming with portals opening 1 by 1 total they opened 17 portals

[umbral reef]

Get ya outputlog and report them.

[lethal summit]

but i have no clue who does that... (he is a known user)

[north axle]

They'll always stay an issue, but they're not much of a problem now, compared to 2018.

Known Users cannot always be trusted.

[lethal summit]

17 portals srlsy?

well..game finaly crashed.

[north axle]

Just report them.

[lethal summit]

cant report some one if i cant see it

[north axle]

Yes you can.

Use your output log.

It's got their ID.

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[north axle]

And send it to VRChat mods.

#moderation-reports

So, anyway, do we have any news about any international groups or not?

[umbral reef]

I changed my name- Thats not news worthy tho lmao

But nah- havent heard anything beside the same daily stuff

[rough flax]

I don’t have money for a full rebuild, but I want to toss in an i7 3770k from my 2600k

[lethal summit]

i have met 2 maps that the tv sounds doesnt work... 😦

@north axle i think i had 500mb with reports xD

[north axle]

If you have technical issues, you can check out #user-support-old.

[vocal shard]

is there a discord for like events in the past for like the huntnfor mr whiskers

[north axle]

Check out #events if you're talking about the main one, just read the description.

And if you're looking for THAT Discord specifically, there's a link in puzzle worlds.

Maybe you should visit the "Hunters' Hub" world for that.

Anyway, have fun, I'll be AFK.

[vocal shard]

thanks

[lean wharf]

@rough flax you got a HTC vive?

And does it work good on the config?

[rough flax]

yeah

As long as a world and people are optimized it runs well.

[lean wharf]

GPU?

Cus I got a Rx 580 4gb

[rough flax]

But you have people with 200 dyn transforms and 300k polys and it kills me

and real time lights.

I use a 2600k @ 4.4 and a gtx 1060

[lean wharf]

Oh

I got the 2600 on 3.98 ghz

So yes 4.0 ghz almost

[rough flax]

mine is slowly dying, that's why I want to upgrade, but no money so I'll toss in a 3770k

[lean wharf]

I'm gonna buy after getting the HTC vive

A ryzen 5 2600x

RTX 2060 16 GB DDR4 3000mhz

Each month since vacations I'm going to get till my bday

500 pln

115€ each month from the government

Till i turn 18

So yeah poggers

1500 USD / 1266 EURO

[rough flax]

[winged thistle]

I'll get a 2070 and a modmic with the next paycheck

[vocal shard]

If you tweet about your world in VRChat, don't forget to include the link to the world. See so many cool tweets saying "please check out my world" with no link.

Also reminder you can add YouTube video trailers to your world page.

[umbral reef]

Ow snap good that you said the last thing 👀

[lethal summit]

sdk has almost 1gb?

800 mb to be exact

could it be that reason why my avatar uploads that slow?

[umbral oracle]

@lethal summit could be if you have Future Proofing enabled as it uploads a copy of the better part of your unity project on each upload , currently not used for anything. I Recommend to disable Future Proofing in VrChat SDK -> Settings

[lethal summit]

settings?

[umbral oracle]

The top menu bar vrchat sdk / settings. Same screen you used to login has a future proofing checkbox

[lethal summit]

aaa

future proof public

[stoic cargo]

by billion people are in this server

[umbral oracle]

I wish Vrchat were that popular--Not quite that many, but over 20k online discord users not bad.

[vocal shard]

If there were a billion people we would need a lot more chat mods 😆

Should have Seinfeld apartment back in VRChat today. Now just need models for Jerry, Elaine, Kramer, George, etc.

oh and newman

[queen mango]

Isn't the max people allowed in a single Discord server 250,000 members?

[vocal shard]

Yeah they probably have a max like that

I have a feeling if you got to that point though they'd look at increasing the max for your server

[queen mango]

Hmm.. haven't heard of that yet

[umbral reef]

Fairly sure partnered servers have different rules

[umbral oracle]

Oh cool the seinfeld apartment would be a fun place to hang out in. I need to practice the Kramer slide in my full body as I go through the front door

[stone current]

yea theres partnered servers and i think u can get it trusted

idk if partnered == trusted

but allow u 2 have more users in the server w/o outage problems

better discord server for example used 2 have a ton of outages

[umbral oracle]

Vrchat is in the first page of the server discovery page so I'd imagine it has some special treatment even if not paid for

[stone current]

well usually 2 be partnered its by email or something

[ruby needle]

well, it is a big community so.

[stone current]

u ask 4 it and they will evaluate u based on the server, its members, background, etc

quackityhd server was partnered also but was at risk for it bc of that furry mod thing

[umbral reef]

You have different 'hiden' partner tiers

Big servers can appeal for the first one

[stone current]

yea usually u only get bigger partnership if u urself are the host of some community or the discord is made by developers/admins

[umbral reef]

But even for those- if you get too big (Overwatch discord for example had that) you can get even more special stuff

[stone current]

but discord do it mostly bc that way

they can save on what discord servers get the best side of the networking and stuff

[umbral reef]

Well tbh the requesting for partner is odd
My old community has around 2.5x the average stats according to there own sources but we got denied 💤
Also this is more #general-media talk

[stone current]

cuz they need 2 be able 2 route messages thru huge servers

downside is that any non-partnered server gets the tail end of that

[umbral oracle]

Well they will probably get equal attention from the poor SRE's at discord that want to keep their pager silent and keep things running regardless of who pays more

[stone current]

wat kinda stuff do u do 4 hypesquad

like the events and stuff

[queen mango]

Something around that

[stone current]

cuz i only hav the spread hypesquad around rank

i actually got denied hypesquad...

but then i got an email saying i got accepted..?

misclick......?

like i got 2 emails

https://i.gyazo.com/e0432c09bb1ee78f6ba3831fac6cc8e1.png
https://i.gyazo.com/648ad4923c3ece620fa3213b6d74cce4.png

[hardy seal]

hype squad really doesnt mean anything

[stone current]

ik

unless ur part of the events

u can get free merch and also host ur own events

but idk wat kind of 'events' u do

[vocal shard]

I wanna ping Pill and ask if there’s gonna be a high quality Seinfeld theme in the map

But I won’t ;-;

[stone current]

wat events is in the thing

[rigid frigate]

My mic is super quiet in vr chat and its maxed. Its a hyperx cloud mic

How do i get it to be audible?

[stone current]

did u try boosting it in the windows settings

[vocal shard]

Did you make sure it was plugged in?

[rigid frigate]

Its maxed everywhere.

Its my headset so yes it is

[vocal shard]

Ok, is ya intranet working?

[rigid frigate]

Yes

[vocal shard]

Ok

[rigid frigate]

Im using the rift mic until then and apperently its better?

[vocal shard]

• apparently

[stone current]

idk y u would use a diff mic for the oculus

unless it wasnt working anymore..?

it a pretty good mic

[rigid frigate]

Its brand new for me

[vocal shard]

Oculus default mic hella good mic

No reason to use anything else when you got that

[rigid frigate]

Oh okay then. Guess ill stick with it.

[stone current]

the speakers/headset also but not that great with noise cancellation

[vocal shard]

Except if you got a nice setup already

[stone current]

also i think oculus automatically sets both the input and output when u turn on oculus home

[vocal shard]

Not VRChats input

[stone current]

so it would use ur oculus mic by default unless u change it

[rigid frigate]

I have a hyper x cloud ii. I do have a audio technica at 2020 but thats not exactly easy or practical with a rift

[stone current]

yea but it changes the active input/output

only thing i dont like about oculus is

a lot of apps use the openvr stuff

and sometimes i leave my oculus plugged in cuz i wanna play games soon but taking a break

and then when i play something that may potentially use vr (or output sound to rift)

it re-opens the oculus home

[rigid frigate]

Its so dumb that you have to use oculus proprietary software to open steams vr

[stone current]

wym

do u mean the thing where home has 2 be active 2 use steamvr

[rigid frigate]

you have to use oculus vr. When using steam vr

Ya

[stone current]

yea its just bc of how they set it up

oculus cant rlly be used w/o home being active

[rigid frigate]

But it could

[stone current]

theres hacks u can do 2 go around that but sometimes not worth the effort

yea ik its just set up that way

[rigid frigate]

Thats the problem i have with it

[stone current]

u cant even output audio 2 the rift w/o opening home

[rigid frigate]

And you can just setup a input/output for just vrchat or oculus home

It has to be the windows default!

[stone current]

cuz bugs 00f

[rigid frigate]

sigh

I mean whatever. Im just one person.

[stone current]

na a lot of ppl complain

oculus just doesnt rly care tho

not rlly steams fault i think its against ToS for them to directly interface with the oculus (without home)

[rigid frigate]

I never said it was

[stone current]

just saying

[honest crypt]

[ruby needle]

just use the native oculus version of apps

[stone current]

cuz i remember them coming down on something

yea but oculus home only knows what the oculus is

u cant use stuff like kinect or off-brand base stations / sensors

at least off-brand as in not oculus

steamvr made 2 handle most vr equipment all together and mix and matched as well as extra drivers / tools

[ruby needle]

thats the point of "openvr" but that doesnt mean that it's by default bad that the vendors have their closed loop

[stone current]

but oculus cant do that so unless all ur doing is headset and hands controller then rip u

[ruby needle]

thats just not what its per default intendet for

and that is fair

[stone current]

yea i get that

its just that its kinda hard 2 do that like

if u have full body trackers wat r u just gonna play the oculus home version and not use them

[rigid frigate]

Ill get a vive in the future

So i can do full body

[stone current]

well i have oculus full body

[ruby needle]

if you have fullbody trackers you bought the wrong system or are fine with a hacked solution anway

[rigid frigate]

Wait you do?

[stone current]

ye

[rigid frigate]

How?

[stone current]

not a mixed setup yet bc thats expensive but i got good lighting and a xb1 kinect

in total cost me much less than vive full body or mixed setup

[rigid frigate]

I thought you couldnt

[stone current]

well u can bc again

[ruby needle]

kinect more like half body lagging

.. pardon

[stone current]

steamvr

[rigid frigate]

I would prefer wearable ngl

[stone current]

no yea obv

nolo is pretty good and decently priced

if u use their controllers as trackers

[rigid frigate]

Nolo?

[stone current]

yea nolovr

i already had a kinect sitting around from when we actually played on consoles

and the adapter ran me like less than 20 bucks

[rigid frigate]

Ill look into it

[stone current]

so i just kinda did that

but yea i got it in a good position so it has decent full body

[rigid frigate]

Can i use the wii bar for body tracking? Lmfao

[inner cape]

[stone current]

well u can use practically anything for full body tracking actually

as long as either:
A) SteamVR supports it
B) A driver for SteamVR supports it

[rigid frigate]

Wiimotes it is!

[stone current]

u can assign them as trackers instead of controllers

[inner cape]

unless you're a software developer god I wouldn't be so confident, dog

[stone current]

woof

i mean u can even have LED or shining bands for full body tracking

[inner cape]

that's a Kinect thing

[stone current]

the bands themselves should cost like 5 bucks at most

[inner cape]

developed together with an app

[stone current]

yea but its better than default kinect tracking

[rigid frigate]

I am not a software dev. Im just one of those crazy nutjobs on the internet that make ridiculous things.

[stone current]

my friend has kinect tracking with colored wristbands on their ankles

they have that shiny material like u would see on signs or traffic cones

[rigid frigate]

I wanna get one of those walking pads. But i assume those will set you back alot

And i doubt you can side jump on them

[stone current]

if u mean like the pads where ur strapped in on

those are reaaaally bad

i just have never known a single person who actually liked them

[rigid frigate]

No i mean the moving ones

[stone current]

theyre very uncomfortable and exaughsting

o i havent seen any moving ones that are cheaper than like 500 bucks

[rigid frigate]

Oof

[stone current]

also the technology for those not rlly perfected

[rigid frigate]

I assumed

[stone current]

at least not yet

[inner cape]

a walking station

[stone current]

the stationary ones with slippery floors r basically like adult version baby carrige thingies

[rigid frigate]

Ill wait until it can keep you in one spot while side and back jumping

[stone current]

i mean can always just

get a large playspace and turn around

[rigid frigate]

I do but eventually you have to recenter in the room

[stone current]

well yea but ur actually moving

[rigid frigate]

And its not as immersive if you use a stick to walk around and not your feet

[stone current]

wat

also moving around in VR is extremely tiring

like if ur gonna run a marathon thats fine

but i personally would not want 2 walk around every time i wanted 2 move

[rigid frigate]

I would

[stone current]

i would be tired in a few minutes and my legs would hurt lmao

[rigid frigate]

I love walking

[stone current]

i already stand for 4 hours

also if u sweat with the oculus or vive its most likely gonna fog up ur lenses

and u wont be able 2 see anything xd

happened 2 me before in just dance worlds

[rigid frigate]

I have played beat saber and not had that issue yet.

[stone current]

might be bc of my poor ac lol

[rigid frigate]

Tbf i open my window and im in canada lol

[stone current]

but yea i can play 4 much longer and enjoy the game if i move with a joystick instead

i just personally dont wana get tired while playing VR

[rigid frigate]

Ive been known to hike for like. 8 hours and be happy.

[stone current]

ye but i like just playing the game and doing full body stuff

[rigid frigate]

Ah fair

[stone current]

but without getting tired from doing a lot of things

[rigid frigate]

I get that.

[stone current]

cuz 1 time i was doing like a 5 dance marathon on just dance world

practicaly dying and fogged the lenses up lmao

[rigid frigate]

I mostly got vr for well. Feeling cute. And getting out of the chair and moving

[stone current]

was fun but man i had 2 take like an hr break after

[rigid frigate]

Lol

[stone current]

i think it was a part of something 4 a charity fundraiser? i dont remember

someone joined the server with some friends and said they were raising money by dancing in vr lol

so idk went along w/ it

[ruby burrow]

The closest thing I know of to free walking locomotion in VR thus far, is that Saccadic Redirection thing.
But you need a massive play space for that, so it's not really suitable for home use.

More of a commercial thing maybe.

[rigid frigate]

How big an area?

But i assume its pricey af

I just want a locomotion tech that keeps you in one place. No strap in or handles.

And you can lunge.

[ruby burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDk4HrEtGrM

It's a software tech, so no real price beyond development.

[umbral oracle]

I've been using the alpha-kung version of advanced settings for infinite walking

It's really fun and immersive as long as you keep good track of cable twist periodically

[ruby burrow]

It's also not ideal for sustained long distance travel. But supposedly works very well if just casually exploring room like environments.

Alpha-Kung? As in Kung the VRC user?

[stone current]

or if ur running

[umbral oracle]

It works fine, just switch directions every 10-20 turns. I've had playspace offsets in the 100-150 meter range before -- does cause trouble in some worlds with playspace relative teleports or avatar switching sometimes

[stone current]

any1 know of any release date 4 this yet

[umbral oracle]

Yes Kung has been developing this for a couple months

[stone current]

https://teslasuit.io/

[umbral oracle]

It just locks rotation as long as you hold a menu button and then you can walk in circles or an s shape within your playspace to switch direction

[stone current]

also i wonder

how u gonna play deathrun

[umbral oracle]

And you can easily recenter your room. I kind of see it as letting me position my room within the virtual world rather than move in virtual world while staying still in my room

[ruby burrow]

I think he demo'd it to me briefly when I first met him. Though I didn't realise exactly what he was doing at the time. Thought he was just rotating the playspace the normal way.

[umbral oracle]

Running fast is not recommended without wireless. Source: unplugged my headset 3 times in the last month. Thank goodness for vive being well designed to unplug itself when you trip

[stone current]

yeaaaaa

cant say that about oculus lmao

[umbral oracle]

(Kung has wireless and a decent playspace so that's obviously best)

[stone current]

i once almost brought down my laptop

[umbral oracle]

But worth it imho

[ruby burrow]

That's pretty cool. Don't think my room would be quite large enough to get best use out of it though.

[umbral oracle]

I will use ingame movement in large worlds or when keeping together with a social group is more important than immersion

[ruby burrow]

Ooh... I know someone else that might like it though...

[umbral oracle]

I have 2.5x2 ish meter playspace

[stone current]

meters right

[umbral oracle]

Ya

[hardy seal]

i wish i could get some kind of extender box to bring my hmd plug ins to the front of my pc

that way theyd just unplug if i hit the end of my cord

the problem is finding on that can push 90hz

[stone current]

i kinda wish they finished developing that charge batteries on a table thing

cuz that way u can just plop the battery on table and swap them out and take much less time

[umbral oracle]

Given oculus cable flakiness I can't recommend it except for vive if you run. Walking only might be fun. Using huge avatars you can move faster than normal people can run in most worlds haha

[stone current]

yea moving with oculus is not rlly that good

especially if the cable is plugged in at an angle

bc if u go 2 far u can cause damage 2 the ports themselves and move ur setup

kinda like if u were 2 yank sideways on a usb cable

[ruby burrow]

I have 220cm by 230cm walkable floor space, with a bit more arm room around most sides.

[stone current]

cuz the oculus have direct wiring into headset

[umbral oracle]

Aiee. Reminds me of my days playing with robotics at school and seeing the thing suddenly drive away at full speed while programming, ripping the serial port off the motherboard

[hardy seal]

yeah same with my WMR headset removable cables would be nice

[ruby burrow]

Is this alpha something he's letting the public try out?

[stone current]

i only got a ~6x8 ft playspace

full body also but i hit my lamp 1 time lol

[hardy seal]

i could have a massive playspace if cords would allow it

[umbral oracle]

It's posted publicly on the github. It's not advertised for all the above caveats. Doesn't work with turn signal. No warranty and use at your own risk

It is alpha software for a reason

I'm planning to get wireless at some point to be safet

[stone current]

do something like get a usb and HDMI extender

and a pulley system

i mean if u have long enough extenders u dont even need the pulley

just throw the wires off 2 the side

[umbral oracle]

Yea that's smart. Vive has the link box which is basically that. A nice clean separation point

[ruby burrow]

I've so far smacked my lamp, my cactus, and my wall. Otherwise have been surprisingly safe whilst in VR.

[hardy seal]

usb extenders are really not great though i got one and it cut out

[umbral oracle]

Then get another. They are cheap

[stone current]

get a decently priced tangle-free one

same for the HDMI

[hardy seal]

i did spent $30 on it

[stone current]

also get durable ones so that u cant break it by stepping on it

[umbral oracle]

I mean that's the point: cheap bits that are designed to fail before anything else

[stone current]

also just in case

tape the extender 2 the original lol

[hardy seal]

i got a nice hdmi cable that works fine

[stone current]

my friend put like 4 different passes of duct tape on theirs just so it wouldnt come off

he was gonna superglue it originally but thats a terrible idea

[hardy seal]

https://www.amazon.com/Accell-J231C-008B-3-USB-C-VR-Adapter/dp/B07LC4B43P/ref=asc_df_B07LC4B43P/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=321499553671&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6502318733006426602&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021081&hvtargid=pla-624644675691&psc=1

hmm

[stone current]

that takes an HDMI and USB...?

is that a good idea? im sure a direct HDMI connection is faster

[hardy seal]

yeah youd plug it into the usbc on your gpu

[covert linden]

which ones have a usbc

[stone current]

yea i dont got one of those 00f

[hardy seal]

the usbc on the back of a gpu would support 4k+ video

[covert linden]

I need a usb to usbc

[hardy seal]

why?

[covert linden]

so I can put the usb in my laptop right, and connect hte ubc to vr to it, and it use my oculus on my laptop

[hardy seal]

no

[covert linden]

seems flawless to me

[hardy seal]

the usbc has to be directly connected to the gpu

[covert linden]

thats a meanie not even my hdmi is connected to gpu

[hardy seal]

usb 3 ports are not

[stone current]

oof

my laptops hdmi is presumably bc its vr ready

but no usbc ports on it

[spring bronze]

Greetings

[covert linden]

my laptops fake vr ready

[hardy seal]

display outputs are usually wired in some way to the gpu usbc ports are usually not in fact right now theyre rare on gpus

the 20 series cards are just starting to get them

i thing the 1080ti was the first to have it

[covert linden]

does the 2070 have it?

[hardy seal]

my laptop has a usbc port but its only that a usbc port

[stone current]

rtx probably does

[hardy seal]

yeah the 2060, 70, 80, 80ti and titan rtx

and the msi version of the 1080ti

[stone current]

actually i wonder

[hardy seal]

AMD will have them on their next generation of cards

[stone current]

are laptop GPUs no longer 'M' because they are actually a resized version of desktop GPU or is it just removed for marketing purposes

[hardy seal]

theyre called MAX-Q now

[stone current]

cuz my laptop got a GTX 1060 and idk how comparitive that is 2 a desktops GTX 1060

[hardy seal]

its slower

[ruby needle]

if its a mobile version then a good chunk slower

[hardy seal]

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Max-Q-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.224730.0.html

[stone current]

doesnt say M

[ruby needle]

then it could be a desktop version

[stone current]

my laptops not that thick

[hardy seal]

the max q 1060 is in between the 1060 and 1050ti

[stone current]

the part that doesnt include the monitor/screen is only about an inch tall

[covert linden]

thats a tiny monitor

[digital grotto]

Someone replied to my question of how to use the Ogre Titan model, I tried using all the gestures, even double ones, and looked in emotes, there was nothing

[stone current]

wym

[covert linden]

eek im trying to figure out what nivida I have but I lost the sticker

[hardy seal]

the desktop variant is 23% faster than the max-Q

[covert linden]

ive got the gtx 1050

[stone current]

site says whole laptop is like .7 inches for the 17''

and mine is the 15'' version

idk how accurate

[covert linden]

my laptop claims vr ready but isnt because of the hdmi, my hdmi is on my intel 630

[stone current]

oooof

[covert linden]

which doesnt convey colours correctly to my tv even lol

[stone current]

mine is, runs pretty well and can play vr games

[covert linden]

My laptop runs great other than that

I hope to upgrade to a 2070 i7 8th gen pc in about a year

from my rtx 580

[digital grotto]

A 2070? Why

[hardy seal]

ok so thew laptop 1060 is 40% faster than the 1050ti but only 23% slower than the full 1060 6gig

[covert linden]

so itll last me years without being outdated

2070s are also sexy

[digital grotto]

Just buy the RTX Titan and I9

That's how to not be outdated for a while

[stone current]

no

[digital grotto]

And how to be down a couple thousand

[covert linden]

I dont need the i9 to make my power pill die

[stone current]

two RTX Titans

[digital grotto]

You right

[stone current]

as long as u have 2 of at least decent GPUs

u have a 'basically supercomputer' for rendering and games

[covert linden]

I dont neeed a basic super compuuuterrr

[digital grotto]

You don't need 2 cards, just one will do

[stone current]

yee but

[covert linden]

ill be getting the 2070 if a year if that is even what I go with and it may be more of the norm when that occurs

[digital grotto]

RTX isn't worth it atm

For the ridiculous price tag

[stone current]

nothing uses it yet

[covert linden]

a year isnt atm now is ittttttt

[stone current]

eventually yea

but its kinda annoying bc like

[digital grotto]

Might take more than a year imo

[stone current]

not only do u gotta make ur game run on crappy pc

[ruby burrow]

Regarding that bit about the laptop not being big enough to fit a desktop GPU, the majority of a GPUs bulk is the cooling system.
The actual hardware itself is usually only a little more than a single board in thickness.

[stone current]

but u also gotta implement a way 4 ur engine 2 support RTX

[covert linden]

Ill see how things are when I go to buy it, if I realize its kinda extra then ill go with like the 1070 or something

[digital grotto]

Id say a 1080 ti is more than enough for now, and will last a while

[hardy seal]

actually for their performance the rtx cards arent awfulk you definately pay more for the tenser cores though

[stone current]

which means a loooong time of modifying it

[covert linden]

I wanted the i9 too till I realized it used more power

[digital grotto]

I'm poor so I only have a 1060 😩

[stone current]

well yea tensor cores becoming the gods of GPU cards

[covert linden]

I have a 580 atm

[stone current]

they using neural networks 4 them now also

[ruby burrow]

Which means that laptops can build their own cooling with a different form factor around the GPU.
Typically it will have poorer thermal performance, but otherwise the same card.

[stone current]

so instead of doing computations or calculations

[hardy seal]

the 1080 is still $680 and i bought my 2070 which is faster than a 1080 for $612

[covert linden]

Hehehe im watching doki sleep

[vestal lance]

gtx 1080 from the bargain bin

[stone current]

they just feed something thru a neural network and out comes the solution

[digital grotto]

Do you guys have the issue where on some maps you'll load in then the loading screen will keep popping up again for a while, or while you're walking sometimes it'll happen?

[stone current]

kinda like training a robot to solve equations

[digital grotto]

Is that due to my computer not being good enough or my internet being bad

[stone current]

vs making a program that solves equations

[covert linden]

whats your ping

[digital grotto]

I forgot to check

[covert linden]

It can be both not good enough of a computer and bad internet

[digital grotto]

I meet like the minimum requirements for VR lmao

[stone current]

the robot could solve equations much faster than the program

[covert linden]

my old laptop would go to 0/0 in loading a lot and take ages to actually load me in, I had great ping but it was an i3

[digital grotto]

I have a GTX 1060 and a Ryzen 5 1600

[hardy seal]

2070 reference card $499 cheaper than a new 1080 at a lower price https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-RTX-2070-Black-08G-P4-1071-KR/dp/B07J9L4HC2/ref=asc_df_B07J9L4HC2/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309777534894&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5516253563460731720&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021081&hvtargid=pla-770108111032&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=58425267301&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=309777534894&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5516253563460731720&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9021081&hvtargid=pla-770108111032

[stone current]

i hab gtx 1060 and an i7

[digital grotto]

So I think VR is pushing the limits of my computer

[stone current]

vrchat uses a lot of my CPU tho

[covert linden]

it could be, id check your ping tho

pushing the limits isnt as bad as your system not being able to run shit

[digital grotto]

I will next time it happens

[rough pulsar]

VR Pushes most PCs close to their limits

[covert linden]

like my frame average was 11fps and im talking without vr

[stone current]

my laptops ok for vr but not rlly the best

i dont get like 90 fps unless im on vrchat with no one around

[digital grotto]

I think the issue mainly happens in the great pug when full

[stone current]

games like robo recall ill get average 50 or so FPS

can see the lag sorta

[digital grotto]

Sometimes my VR will like, not move with me when I turn for a second

So like, I'll see the screen, then to the side just a black void

[stone current]

and show blackness?

[digital grotto]

Mhm

[stone current]

ye ik wym

its freezing from low framerate

cuz 2 do less harm on ur gpu and cpu

[digital grotto]

Makes sense

[stone current]

it only renders what u can actually see

instead of a full 360 view

and it doesnt follow ur eyes so thats its not disorienting

[digital grotto]

If I had a 1080 ti, i7, and 16 gb of ram would it be better?

[stone current]

yea somewhat

[digital grotto]

I mean, I can't afford it, but would it?

[queen mango]

No doubt

[stone current]

i mean the i7 wouldnt rlly help

[digital grotto]

Ah

[rough pulsar]

That's not freezing from low framerate, that's an oddity related to reprojection

[stone current]

u prob need beefier CPU

but yea

[digital grotto]

The i7 is beefy

[stone current]

yea but i have an i7

[digital grotto]

Beefier than a ryzen 5 at least

[covert linden]

the i7 is sexy

[stone current]

i still dont get that good of a framerate

in worlds with a lot of vrchat avatars

[ruby burrow]

Be sure to check the actual comparisons of any new hardware you might consider.

[covert linden]

Wulf youre also on a laptop and laptops cant use all that as much as a pc can

[stone current]

i look at GPU usage and thats not the problem

[hardy seal]

yeah any faster graphics and a faster cpu helps thats like asking if a dog poops in the grass

[covert linden]

Laptops with the same stats as a pc will automatically preform less

[digital grotto]

I believe I usually get more than 30 fps average

[stone current]

ye

[digital grotto]

I need to play with CAM on some day to get more accurate numbers

[covert linden]

you should def do some upgrading then if you can

[stone current]

i need 2 get a laptop with a 1080 ti tho

[covert linden]

or a pc

[stone current]

na

[rough pulsar]

If a laptop has the same specs as a PC and isn't being clocked down at all then it's going to perform the same

[digital grotto]

I need to get another processor before I can think of doing anything else

The Ryzen 5 1600 is kinda bad, I only got it bc budget build

[covert linden]

ive heard people here tho say that a laptop cannot preform the same for some technical reasons

[rough pulsar]

Almost certain that reason would be thermal

[ruby burrow]

Thermal performance, generally.

[queen mango]

You mean when it comes to voltages and such?

[rough pulsar]

since laptops have a slightly harder time cooling due to the smaller case

[hardy seal]

processor is usually less impotant than gpu though

[stone current]

idk how 2 overclock my laptop

[digital grotto]

Yeah but rn my 1060 might be being bottlenecked by my processor

[hardy seal]

for gaming anyways

[stone current]

i need 2 tho

[covert linden]

dont melt it

[hardy seal]

no the ryzen 1600 shouldnt bottleneck the 1060

[digital grotto]

I def need to upgrade my ram too, 8 gb really isn't enough

[stone current]

cuz i got a cooling pad and its pretty good at regulating temp to its average

[rough pulsar]

read the user manual

[ruby burrow]

Sometimes it will be due to laptop spec hardware designed for power saving rather than performance, but thermals are always a factor even when it's not that.

[digital grotto]

Especially since I like to have alot of background programs

[hardy seal]

unless its got a stock cooler and is throttling

[stone current]

yea ik i read it but idk much of the stuff it talk about

so should prob go study it sometime lol

[rough pulsar]

Then read further and learn more until you do understand it

[stone current]

yea but it requires u 2 reboot the laptop then run a few cmds and then u have 2 run more cmds and then safe boot it into BIOS mode and etc

[ruby burrow]

CPU is currently the main bottleneck for VR-Chat in most situations, rather than GPU.

[covert linden]

I putin my first gpu the other day

and im proud

[ruby burrow]

Although, there is actually always some potential for that to change, depending on how future optimisations go.

[stone current]

yea they were gonna fix that

[digital grotto]

Is ram an issue with VRchat too

[stone current]

sometime but didnt work out

sometimes

[hardy seal]

also @digital grotto are you running a 3 gig 1060 or a 6gig

[rough pulsar]

And even then it's generally single-core perf on the CPU that matters
Tested by running VRC on a 16 core threadripper
bugger all difference in framerate.

[digital grotto]

6gb

[hardy seal]

good

[covert linden]

AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor

[ruby burrow]

I run VR-Chat on a seven year old quad core. But it's running at 4.6ghz, so it does better than you'd expect.

[covert linden]

is that processor good?

[hardy seal]

a 3 gig 1060 couldve been your biggest problem

[covert linden]

tf is an i7

[digital grotto]

The 1060 is a godsend compared to my old 750 ti, but now that I'm trying more intensive games with it, I'm kind of wishing I saved for a better one

[covert linden]

is an i7 a proccessor or cpu

[ruby burrow]

Is still a problem that it's too old to use the modern "instruction sets" that Unity expects.

[hardy seal]

the 10603 gig was trash and shouldve never been made

[digital grotto]

I used to have 2gb of vram

[covert linden]

ignore my ryzen question I realized that I want an i7 not that

[hardy seal]

ryzen cpus are good though

[digital grotto]

Oh yeah I think, the Ryzen is like, bad because it does things different from Intel processors though they're still good for budget builds

[ruby burrow]

Mine is an i5-2500k. xD
A nice antique.

[covert linden]

Yeah but I prefer intel i7 8k

[digital grotto]

I've seen cases where Ryzen cpus make the game act weird

[covert linden]

bro I was using an i3 for the longest time and like.. I think it was 3k but im not sure

[hardy seal]

you can save quite a bit of cash and get just as good gaming performance as spending a shitload on an i7

[meager solstice]

Intel is still the best

[rough pulsar]

laughs in 7nm

[covert linden]

whats a good motherboard

its hard making your ideal dream pc when all you know isthe cpu and gpu you want and nothing else

[meager solstice]

z390 motherboard

[hardy seal]

i mean are you going to overclock

[digital grotto]

I used to use this one processor... It was called like the "Intel Core 2 Duo Extreme Q6850" with the GTX 750 Ti, and GTA V ran more consistently compared to my current build of a GTX 1060 6GB and Ryzen 5 160

[ruby burrow]

I'm no expert on this stuff. But I do recall Linus ripping on intel pretty hard recently, whilst praising AMDs comeback. '-'

[covert linden]

Im not sure how to overclock

but I could

[digital grotto]

The current motherboard I use is the MSI B350 PC MATE

[hardy seal]

if youre not going to overclock b series motherboards will be cheaprt

[meager solstice]

B350 is alright

[hardy seal]

if youre going to overclock you need a z series chipset

[covert linden]

hm good to know

[meager solstice]

^true

[covert linden]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y74b6s

this is what ive got so far

this is like a dream pc, but like, semi realistic

[digital grotto]

Yeah next time I pull up VRchat im going to open up CAM to see how it's performing

[meager solstice]

Basically the same pc I’m buying/building

[hardy seal]

and for the love of god make sure your mobo supports the chip youre putting in it ive seen waaay to many people complaining that their processor is broken but theyre sticking an 8-9th gen in a z170 board

[covert linden]

is it all supported with what ive got on my list?

[meager solstice]

ye

Not sure about the cooler tbh

[covert linden]

I just chose a random cooler

[meager solstice]

But the motherboard supports the cpu and gpu

[hardy seal]

or a 6th to 7th gen in a z370 board

[ruby burrow]

Geh. PC hardware seems so much more expensive than when I first built this one. >_>

[covert linden]

its an 8th gen to the z370

[stone current]

if u have modern amounts of RAM (>= 16 GB) u should be fine

[covert linden]

390*

I know nothing about coolers I just slapped a 5 star one on there

[stone current]

8 GB might be 2 low depending on what else is running COUGH COUGH GOOGLE CHROME

[meager solstice]

I mean if u don’t want to build it u can pay the extra 200$ and just probably buy it.... on amazon @covert linden

[covert linden]

I do wanna learn to build it so

[digital grotto]

8GB is definitely too low to today's standards

Get at least 12GB

[stone current]

u can already guess which one is google chrome https://i.gyazo.com/175d9b676016dc039cf25a2350bdbb48.png

[meager solstice]

I say 16gb ram

[digital grotto]

Yeah I want 16 gigs

[stone current]

yea 16 GB+

[digital grotto]

Gonna be upgrading ram soon

[covert linden]

I have a pc in my room, I bought it prebuilt but I had to put the like.. gpu in myself

[meager solstice]

Well 12+ is good

[stone current]

im already at 50% of my RAM

[covert linden]

on my list I havent selected ram yet but I want 16

[stone current]

all i have open is oculus home, chrome, steam, and discord so...

[digital grotto]

Having discord and Firefox open at the same time kills my ram

[ruby burrow]

Chrome loads tabs strangely. Seems to load all at start up, rather than only when you select the tab.

[digital grotto]

Steam isn't too bad on ram

[stone current]

yea ik

[ruby burrow]

I still use Firefox as my main browser for that reason, and Chrome as my secondary.

[meager solstice]

I https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Trace-9220-Overclockable-Motherboard/dp/B07G77QHV8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=ibuypower+2070&qid=1551053557&s=gateway&sr=8-1 @covert linden

[stone current]

but average modern program uses around 400 MB of RAM

[meager solstice]

Literally what ur building XD

[digital grotto]

Also Discord uses Chromium or something like that

[rough pulsar]

Chrome's become a bloated mess, firefox is way better these days.

[meager solstice]

True ^

[covert linden]

thats nice but id rather like to learn how to make it myself

[digital grotto]

Yeah Firefox's Quantum update was so good

[stone current]

thats opposed 2 the like

[covert linden]

ill save it tho just inc ase

[stone current]

16 KB used to launch apollo

[covert linden]

because it does look really good

[meager solstice]

I was just showing @covert linden

[ruby burrow]

And then I oddly enough actually use Microsoft Edge for the sole purpose of having a basic browser for use in VR, without any tab history activated.

[digital grotto]

@covert linden building your own pc is an amazing experience imo

[meager solstice]

Microsoft edge isn’t actually that bad tbh

[stone current]

yea its just that

its windows, and its annoying like IE if its not the default browser

[covert linden]

I put a gpu in myself but putting on the side pannel which isnt even on because I couldnt gave me sensory overload and a breakdown

[stone current]

well microsoft but

[covert linden]

so id probably make doki drive down to help me

[hardy seal]

if i were to build today id build this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K6pnvn

[meager solstice]

Ash idk if u care but I find water cooling a pain....

[covert linden]

or ill drive to illinois and grab my friend tyler and drive him to my house

[digital grotto]

I recommend trying to do it yourself, ash, it's actually fairly hard to mess up building

[stone current]

microsoft overall is just super annoying

if nothing of theirs is ur default or ur even trying 2 use office/hotmail

[meager solstice]

Windows defender is pretty good tho

[hardy seal]

yeah building a pc is pure plug and play

[covert linden]

I mean I get sensory overload and panic attacks because of it super easily thats my only worry

[stone current]

it will bug u nonstop

[covert linden]

Like I broke down trying to put a side pannel on

[rough pulsar]

SteamVR running properly with everything on linux can't come soon enough

[stone current]

kek

[covert linden]

But ive got people who I can make come help me

[hardy seal]

the hard part is making sure everything works together

and thats easy

[digital grotto]

PC building is really user friendly, if you can't handle it try getting a friend who's done it before to watch over you

Don't have them do it for you though

[covert linden]

like ill prob have my license before I get a super good pc so ill drive down to america and make my friend come over

[digital grotto]

Only have them come in when you're messing up

[meager solstice]

could hire someone on Craigslist XD to build it for 50$

[digital grotto]

You're in Canada?

[covert linden]

Yes

[stone current]

ftmp if u do all the wiring correct things should work properly

[digital grotto]

Ngl id build a pc for a friend for like $20

[stone current]

most of the parts are just basically exchangable

at least the ones people swap more often

like GPU CPU and etc

[hardy seal]

id never hire someone to build a pc for me that way i can make sure nothing gets screwed up and nothing is gypsy

[digital grotto]

The cable management in my computer is horrible though

[covert linden]

If I bought this id likely be moved out with my friend with it saved up, and i'd go drive over and pick up my friend from illinois because hes an expert at this kinda thing

[meager solstice]

I mean building PCs aren’t hard, worse part is the cord management in my opinion

[stone current]

yea some PC have wires that are neatly held up with little prongs and slots

[rough pulsar]

cable management = mess hiding

[meager solstice]

^

[stone current]

others have a gigantic mess of wires going from one place to another

[digital grotto]

Yeah. I shoved all my cables on the other side of my mobo where the side panel is not see through

It's a mess.

[hardy seal]

i like my case they made cable management super easy lots of tie down points and cable channels

[stone current]

yee

[rough pulsar]

I do like that the mobo backplate has a fair bit of space under it now where I can hide the CABLE SPAGHETTI

[stone current]

b0rk

my friend had labelled all the wires with sharpie colors

[digital grotto]

@hardy seal the case I used too had quite a bit too, but I didn't use it too much

[stone current]

bc god dam its confusing

[digital grotto]

What case do you have? I use the NZXT s340

[stone current]

u look inside the box and its just like a spiderweb of wires

[hardy seal]

i do need to strip my pc down and do a good cleaning when i get my new cooler

[stone current]

i dont think he could even reach some of his components

w/o unplugging others temporarily

sounds like they didnt want ppl messing around lmao

[digital grotto]

I can reach all my components without unplugging anything else luckily

[hardy seal]

i want a cooler with rgb lights im thinking th asus one with a lcd on the pump

[stone current]

i rlly hate tight wires also

[hardy seal]

and no i dont need it but i want it

[stone current]

i.e. wires that are so tightly connected that u cant move them out the way w/o unplugging them

[covert linden]

doki just scared the crap outta me

[digital grotto]

I want to make my computer all colorful inside but it's expensive to

[stone current]

wouf

[digital grotto]

I only added blue leds on my fans

[stone current]

just throw a paint bucket in it lmao

[hardy seal]

https://www.asus.com/us/Cooling/ROG-RYUO-240/

[stone current]

actually

[hardy seal]

this thing

aio coolers are nice ill never own a air cooler again

[covert linden]

I wanna put anime stickers on my pc

[hardy seal]

when i built my first pc i had a 212 evo which is a good cooler but it looked kinda tacky to me

[digital grotto]

My cooler is the stock one from the Ryzen 5 1600

I heard it's decent so I didn't search for another one

[hardy seal]

theres probably part of your problem

your cpu is fine except its probably thermal throttled

stock coolers are no bueno

[digital grotto]

Mine?

[hardy seal]

yeah you said you have laggy performance in games

[digital grotto]

Yeah bc my cpu and ram are maxed

[hardy seal]

the 1060 i know is a fine card i used one for a long time and the 1600 is a good cpu and should be fine but if your cpu gets hot its not boosting and reacing is best speeds

[digital grotto]

I've played gta v with cam open and cpu temps were normal

[hardy seal]

because itll lower its clock to cool off

[digital grotto]

Hm

[hardy seal]

and 8 gigs of ram isnt good either

the days of 8 being enough are coming to an end

[meager solstice]

true

[digital grotto]

I know 8 gigs is bad, but I didn't know the Ryzen 5 1600 stock cooler was bad

I've heard it's good if you don't overclock

Which I don't, and won't

[hardy seal]

if you can watch your clock speed if the cooling is good enough it should sit comfortably at 3.6

if its too much itll slow down to base or underclock itself

[digital grotto]

Also in gta v specifically, my gpu and cpu won't be maxed out sometimes

Like, they'll both be below 50%

Or around it

[hardy seal]

gta 5 runs mint on alot of pcs though

[digital grotto]

Though I don't play gta v anymore so it doesn't matter I guess

[hardy seal]

its an old game

[stone current]

.-.

doesnt mean u gotta ask in multiple channels

[hardy seal]

its a 6 year old game at this point

[stone current]

yea we at the point where 'old' games are pretty realistic

as opposed 2 u know basically space invaders on a prehistoric pc

[hardy seal]

and rockstar is always optimising

without ever touching graphics

[stone current]

well we got rd2 now so

gta 6 probably in works and gta 5 just kinda collecting dust

[vocal shard]

GTA is pretty efficient

[stone current]

in terms of when its being actually improved

[digital grotto]

They're still releasing stuff to gta v

[vocal shard]

In terms of its resource management

[digital grotto]

For some reason

[stone current]

yea but its mostly 'DLC'

[hardy seal]

yeah it had to be it originally launched for the 360 and ps3

[stone current]

not like many graphical/game improvements

[vocal shard]

Surprisingly doesn’t hog that much

[stone current]

they just kinda told part of the dev team "come up with stuff 2 add 2 the game every now and then"

[hardy seal]

it still costs $60 not on sale

[stone current]

i got it for a lot less

[hardy seal]

and people still pump money into microtransactions

[digital grotto]

But yeah I can't run gta v properly, on low graphics fps is low and unstable, on medium graphics basically the same, on high graphics same thing, and on ultra its unplayable

[stone current]

anybody know about anthem and why its better than destiny 2

[digital grotto]

Anthem bad

[stone current]

yea exactly i saw gameplay footage

and im like 'this is basically destiny..???'

whats different about it

[digital grotto]

Micro transactions

[stone current]

other than it being produced by bioware

well d2 has those also

[digital grotto]

I know nothing of either game actually tbh

I just hear bad stuff about anthem

[stone current]

idk but i know destiny has those things where

u choose a class like titan or hunter or whatever

and u can get these abilities specific 2 the class and basically god-like attacks

[digital grotto]

Oh yeah destiny has classics with abilities

[hardy seal]

when i updated my graphics card i couldve got it for free but i chose battlefield 5

[digital grotto]

I used the one with the staff thingy

[stone current]

ye

[hardy seal]

ive playsd like 2 hours of that and probably wont open it again

[digital grotto]

Gta v and b5 are both alright games

Neither are good though

[stone current]

but i dont see why anthem is better than D2

[digital grotto]

It isnt

[stone current]

or vice versa

[hardy seal]

gta 5 is fantastic

[stone current]

destiny is super repetitive

[digital grotto]

EA published anthem therefore bad

[stone current]

both games

they remind me of the division

how enemies spawn in the same places, matched with player level

[digital grotto]

In destiny isn't it not like that? I though enemies stay the same level, level changes based on the area

[stone current]

like even the 'events' in destiny are annoying

[hardy seal]

probably wont buy division 2 i had fun with the first one but it got grindy and boring

[digital grotto]

That's what it seemed like in the first one at least

[stone current]

all the events are the same

u go 2 this spot theres always 2 types of stop the arms deal events

[digital grotto]

It's really hard to keep a game like destiny fresh or not get boring

[stone current]

go 2 this other spot and theres always 2 types of protect the cargo events or whateve

[hardy seal]

if you want the destiny experience get warframe

[digital grotto]

Though I guess warframe is like Destiny but people don't get bored of it

[hardy seal]

warframe is like free destiny

[stone current]

warframe free but

[digital grotto]

Destiny was free at one point :^)

[hardy seal]

yeah the base game

[stone current]

i like how unreal engines modding thing works lol

[digital grotto]

I guess warframe is better bc the devs keep updating and adding more stuff for free

[stone current]

they say 'hey u can mod ARK but ur gonna have to basically download the game 2 do so!'

obv its not like the full game

but it is a lot of the game

[iron cove]

Misaka

[digital grotto]

Slow mode is annoying :<

[iron cove]

Nau

[queen mango]

It's a necessity

[vivid vale]

will vrc ever make some type of safety block so children cant play .

[stray vortex]

i keep crashing 😦

[vocal shard]

hey guys what can u do if ur on vrchat and ur using desktop mode

?

[stray vortex]

uhhh they have some flying models

another option is use sound boards

[inner cape]

hell no

I can count on a single hand how many good soundboard users I've seen

they are obnoxious most of the time

[stray vortex]

well i became a dj for vrchat clubs when i was a desktop user

[vocal shard]

also does anyone know how to make a keyboard where u can type out messages to others publicly in vrchat

?

(also what is a soundboard?

[stray vortex]

wish they put that, but no i dont know

[inner cape]

that's only for vr users I'm afraid

[stray vortex]

you could use a text to speech to communicate?

[vocal shard]

@stray vortex how can u get text to speech for vrchat

[stray vortex]

sent you a link

[vocal shard]

thxs

[stray vortex]

oh hey @vocal shard