vrchat-general-2

[queen mango]

And why is it that meshes rotate separately even though they're technically merged

[lethal summit]

lots of crashers in there.

[umbral reef]

Lately? It has always been crasher and spam city

[rough pulsar]

It's kinda terrible. I don't even join on friends there.
Except for last night, that was an exception.

[woven steppe]

Explaining rigging would require a significant wall of text

[zinc solar]

I'm going to make a smaller lag free box. Hate having to run to the mirror

[woven steppe]

Fly to the mirror

[lethal summit]

didnt had that much problems before those wierd updates...

[queen mango]

I'd save it for when I get back to Blender, ACH

[lethal summit]

what do you really need to be a trusted user rank?

[queen mango]

No specifics

[woven steppe]

nobody knows

[queen mango]

Speaking of which.. high-pop public spots are hotbeds for rather interesting sights

[sleek bone]

[queen mango]

Like the one time I encountered an English VRChatter in the Pug who's quite below 13 years old

And well.. wanting to know if anyone else is from UK

And apparently, the more popular the spot, the harder it is to moderate without more instance moderation

[lethal summit]

from what ive heard u need to have 50 friends in your list (probably trusted users )
and a map uploaded.

[queen mango]

👀

Are you sure that's just speculation?

[lethal summit]

a friend told me that: only thing left to do is to upload a map and im changing to tursted user from known user.

[zinc solar]

[next quail]

I'm trusted without even uploading a map. So it's not a hard requirement.

[fallow night]

HI there everyone. I get time outs all the time and it is not my connection. Is there any fix for it?

[queen mango]

👀

Cloak.. is that my face there?

[zinc solar]

Yeah, it's an emoji now.

[queen mango]

Oh my..

[zinc solar]

I have a mic emoji too

[queen mango]

Well, I managed to find the guy who made the Jersey-Kun avatar.

So yes, this avatar ain't mine.. it's Morin's

[zinc solar]

Still a cute avatar, even though I've only seen face

[queen mango]

w<

Gotta admit, she looks very cute.

[woven steppe]

face is gud enuff

[zinc solar]

It's weird? I've always made emojis based on peoples avatars, but I have NEVER made an emoji on my own avatar, even if I can get my own emoji in some Discords,

I guess because I never had a main...

[median basalt]

I don't have an "OC" nor do I have a single avatar that I use often

It used to be Sakuya until I got into model edits a little bit more

[woven steppe]

My friends just ended up identifying a certain look to me... so I went with that look for the gradual evolution of my model

[zinc solar]

I like how some people say "I worked hours on this original character"

Uses a Kanna model with red hair

[viscid seal]

XD

[vocal shard]

i try to find good 3d models that are under 20k tris and make something with them like my cat model.

[median basalt]

In case you didn't know, the tris limit is 70k now @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

what

oh my hecjk!!!

[median basalt]

Yeah lol

[vocal shard]

man times have changed since my name isnt serendicock

[median basalt]

Download the latest SDK and you'll see

[vocal shard]

i have it already

[ruby needle]

That doesn't mean that you shouldn't decimate innesseseiry polygons / remove unneedet parts tho

But you dont need to go as far as making your model a cube

[vocal shard]

[final abyss]

Is the classified world down again?

[bold mantle]

[woven steppe]

new body part...

[zinc solar]

Hamburger or Hambooty?

[dark narwhal]

Hi cloaked

[zinc solar]

Yo

[dark narwhal]

Whats hambooty?

[queen mango]

Are those legs?

[woven steppe]

Y

[vocal shard]

its currently 6 am and i haven't slept

[woven steppe]

do you feel sleepy?

On second thought... I'd put the thigh highs on... some people like that apparently

[vocal shard]

kinda

[woven steppe]

just let the fatigue kick in

you're gonna pass out at some point... better make it a soft place

[vocal shard]

im working on a roblox game

[zinc solar]

Elire stop getting nosebleed from legs

[vocal shard]

i literally can't fall asleep while scripting

[zinc solar]

noob

I script in my sleep

[vocal shard]

shut

[dark narwhal]

👀

[vocal shard]

i make mor avatra u then u

[zinc solar]

Noob

I do commissions

[covert linden]

U noob, I dont script at all bc life is a fun game

[vocal shard]

okay yeah i should probably sleep school starts (again) soon

[zinc solar]

Most of my commissions though are ERP avatars and I hate it

[covert linden]

Amazing..

[queen mango]

even better...

[zinc solar]

1v1 me Elire

[vocal shard]

fight me in vrchat i'll get my leg tracking working

[queen mango]

I meant the thigh high pfp ACH has..

[covert linden]

Isnt mine hot

Its haruhi

[woven steppe]

Elire's reaction is almost exactly the same as another person on a different cord

[dire void]

today vrchat has started to get a issue in the server, i get always disconnected

[umbral reef]

@woven steppe Well tights are neato so

Not odd peeps gave the comments

[zinc solar]

[inner cape]

excuse me

what server is this

[covert linden]

I think its the loli monopoly discord

[inner cape]

why does it have an emote of him

[covert linden]

He likes lolis

[inner cape]

no good

[opaque hawk]

Last night me and a friend made fluffy spider avatars and the amount of hugs and cuddles we got from people was unexpectedly high

[tiny ginkgo]

That sounds fun and lovely.

[opaque hawk]

It was

[tiny ginkgo]

I like the fluffy idea

[opaque hawk]

Fluffy is good, glad I picked up xiexe’s fur shader, it’s worth the price.

[lunar zenith]

Hatsun doesn't want to use VR headset anymore!!

[tiny ginkgo]

What's wrong Hatsun?

[lunar zenith]

I just hate some people in general on this game.

[rigid crescent]

lol block them e z

[tiny ginkgo]

What happened?

[lunar zenith]

Just some guys trying to be super nice to me, and then I get mislead into stuff with their friends.

[zinc solar]

Yo whats up mic!

Turned you into an emoji, do something

[opaque hawk]

That’s awful Hatsun, I’ve seen those type of people in this game. It really bums me out

[umbral reef]

@lunar zenith Just hang with the peeps from this discord and there buddies
Peeps here are overall chill af and not fake

[lunar zenith]

Thanks.. But I still don't want to use my VR for this game anymore. I feel as if I get too much attention from those creeps when they see a girl with VR.

[umbral reef]

Welcome to the internet sadly

[opaque hawk]

That is fair

[umbral reef]

Should just throw a fat block the second people hit on you for being a girl

[zinc solar]

What's going on here?

[tiny ginkgo]

Ouch Hatsun... That's horrible.. sorry to hear

[lunar zenith]

Yeah. But sometimes these guys try to build a relationship with me, and one day I just get invited to a bedroom map with a lot of naked people.

[vocal shard]

wtf, i just heard a laser beam and my game crashed

[umbral reef]

The fuck

@vocal shard Congratz you just found a crasher- Do not reboot the game if you want to punish the due

[lunar zenith]

It gets so confusing on these peoples mindset. it's like "well we're friends now, so it's okay to bring you here"
But I guess it's my own fault for sometimes joking around with my teasing, and not saying I'm not okay with that stuff. But it doesn't seem like something I shouldn't even have to bring up to everyone until it's happening. I just hate that they think peer pressure will convince me when I say no.

[rigid crescent]

You just need to make friends that aren't creeps lol

[vocal shard]

Just be more vocal about it next time and just block, move on etc

yeah

[rigid crescent]

They don't accept a no? Block and move on.

[vocal shard]

^

[zinc solar]

Oh my

[umbral reef]

!outputlog

Grab the output log and make a report towards [e-mail]
Once you have send a report you can restart the game. restarting the game earlier will override the file and make you lose all odds of reporting them.

You dont need a name or anything, just the outputlog...

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[vocal shard]

@umbral reef shit, i rebooted it. what now? find him, try to get a crash avatar and crash him back?

[rigid crescent]

yeah go ahead lol

[zinc solar]

Yeas, blocking people will be the way. Although I wouldn't recommend full on blocking just because some people want to bust a VRNut.

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard If you want to get a neat ban- Yes totally valid option

[zinc solar]

I get invited to ERP lobbies as a camera man for some of the people I make avatars for, but I don't start blocking them.

[umbral reef]

@lunar zenith Gotta recall most peeps who play this game are not really socially adapt...

[zinc solar]

Just got to tell people you're not comfortable with it, if they continue to pressure you. Block'em

[vocal shard]

dont do erp kids its dangerous

[zinc solar]

Don't just instantly block the first offense, they might have made a booboo, the ERP community is a creepy one, but I have friends who do it, even thought I'm heavily against it.

[lunar zenith]

Thanks

[edgy spire]

Hello ! I don't know if i'm in the right channel to ask so delete if needed.
I just got the email saying i could add my personnal avatar and worlds , so i did some by myself with unity and SDK and uploaded them but i can't find them in-game :/ I'm connected with VR chat account

[rigid crescent]

You're probably using the wrong version of unity

You need .15f and not .17f.

[edgy spire]

oh okay !

so that's why

[lunar zenith]

This isn't the first time this happened though, but I might need to tell people more often I'm not okay with it, because I still love using my VR.

[edgy spire]

Gonna try out , thank you

[rigid crescent]

I mean yeah just tell them. I can't really know someone doesn't like something (within reason) if they don't say it lol

Or just be friends with people who aren't gross and weird just because you're a girl lol

[zinc solar]

Well, don't want to cut all your friends just because they want to bust a VRNut on the side. Unless that's their only intention with all their friends?

[umbral reef]

So you would not freak the fuck out if people you judge as friends asked you to nut?

Id be that for sure if its irl

[zinc solar]

Meh, I'm a laid back person. I don't overreact with a block, and cutting all ties if a girl tells me to shove a hotdog up her butt

[umbral reef]

So dont see why its less awkward or bad online

[delicate perch]

where have i heard this argument before, being sexy on propose then complaining when hit on

[umbral reef]

@delicate perch There is a difference between flirting and being hit back on
Or flirting and being invited to a nsfw room...

[edgy spire]

@rigid crescent I'm sorry to trouble you again, i've got this version of Unity 2017.4.17f1 i need to have the 15 instead of 17 right ?

[delicate perch]

@umbral reef well of course, my point was that it does invoke said immature people to act that way

[zinc solar]

I think she said joking and teasing or something?

[umbral reef]

Wont deny that- And if i flirt with someone i wont be amazed if they do it back or think its not a joke for example.

But i dont want instant dick picks or nudes from them

[delicate perch]

me personally, i dont even bat an eye at that, ive been around that kinda stuff all the time, i usually just say nice avatar

also many that dont understand how that stuff works, being mature and all, will take teasing as wanting. . . stuff

and on the other hand, some dont know how to not tease too much

OR realize that their teasing is causing said reaction from others

[zinc solar]

We're playing a game with a bunch of weebs who think picking up a pen for a girl will make them wet.

[umbral reef]

Most people online are not that socially capable...
And then we ignore that its ahrd to see emotion online, even with voice.
Its the same reason kids get angry so far or why people with lower educations tend to get violent more.

If you cant read what someone wants (or read it as easy because your inexperienced) these things happen

[delicate perch]

lawl, so true

pfft, they just watch too many animes

[rough pulsar]

It's almost like vrchat is a social platform where social skills are what get you through things easily. 🤔

[delicate perch]

touche

[zinc solar]

This game is full of people who have problems with social interactions, so they believe what they watch is appropriate and true when coming to social conversations, and actions. "anime" for example. This game also has people who heavily roleplay.

[opaque hawk]

Vrchat= networking simulator

[delicate perch]

well lets be real, VRChat is Meme Simulator

[umbral reef]

Tbh VRC is just a form of entertainment for me... Not even a social platform anymore

[opaque hawk]

People watching simulator

[umbral reef]

I talk to people- But it always results in jokes/memes
Sharing things like i do on discord what also is entertainment or adventure maps what is legit playing games with friends... what is entertainment

[delicate perch]

VRChat for me is about meeting new people and watching the just amazing amount of fun akward things that go on

[rough pulsar]

If you want to avoid the meme bullshit, you've got to dive deep and into the old parts of vrchat.

[rigid crescent]

@edgy spire yeah you want .15f

[zinc solar]

The ERP community is a confusing one really. Can never tell if people do it for fun, or for an actual turn on.

[umbral reef]

I dont sit infront of a mirror to just chat

[zinc solar]

Especially for those who are over 21+ who freely do this

[edgy spire]

@rigid crescent Thank you sir 😃

[delicate perch]

i love going to full public worlds and seeing how chaotic it can get

[umbral reef]

@rough pulsar Im not even talking about full spam particle memes
Just jokes and references that i throw out.
The same things i do IRL with friends to have fun

[zinc solar]

Same

[delicate perch]

i will say i tend to always make like 5 or so friends each time i play

[rough pulsar]

I was referring to Maxwell's 'meme simulator' comment

[opaque hawk]

When you find interesting enough people to talk to that sitting around each other with or w/out a mirror is a blast

[zinc solar]

I like to ruin the guys who play their guitars or sing in open mic night, and play my kazoo

[delicate perch]

but memes are fun in small doses

[umbral reef]

Oww-

[delicate perch]

Cloaked, my hero

[umbral reef]

@opaque hawk I have noticed the more mirors there are the less fun a conversation gets...

It quickly becomes about the mirror instead of listening to other people then

[rough pulsar]

In short relevant bursts memes are funny as fuck.
It's when people slam them out at full force non-stop they rapidly become dull and then annoying.

[opaque hawk]

This is true oclac

[umbral reef]

Ima be afk for a while btw

[rigid crescent]

My own guess at to why people have so much trouble finding friends (assuming it isn't due to them just being weird, offputting, mute, etc) is that there's more cliques and whatnot that all formed near the start of last year and pretty much much just mutated into larger groups and even communities, so it's harder to "get in" for newer users due to a lot of them not being in Public lobbies, mainly just Friends+ ones.

[delicate perch]

i do love the pug tho, i met an Anime Wiafu Army there the other day

[rough pulsar]

If you want a subtlely different vrchat experience, make a world with no mirrors at all and fire up a friends+ instance and just see what happens

[delicate perch]

omg, yeah

[rigid crescent]

Is there any difference? I've never noticed one. Still just people hanging out and talking except now it's harder to see everyone without moving around all the time

[delicate perch]

thats how furry parties start on there, just everyone joining on everyone else

[opaque hawk]

I’m going to complain that it’s really hard to talk to each other because of voice lag and unadjustable volumes on individual players

[delicate perch]

wait, what? voice lag?

[rigid crescent]

Is that a thing for people who can actually connect withotu getting permalooped? lol

I've only run into that a handful of times during the summer

[delicate perch]

and if im not mistaken, voice volume is distance based

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, some people are just super loud is the problem

[opaque hawk]

All it takes is one person with a loud mic to make it impossible for others to communicate

[delicate perch]

well thats their system settings or mic quality

true

[rough pulsar]

With a mirror present your attention isn't fully on the person you're talking to.
Take that away and the focus and flow of the conversation changes, for the better in my opinion.

[delicate perch]

its also hyper vain >.>;

[rigid crescent]

I can't say I've ever noticed a difference between talking in a mirror and not, but I guess it really is subtle.

[delicate perch]

so i do it alot

dont judge me, im cute with my fur 😛

[zinc solar]

Where would I go if I wanted to recruit actors for my upcoming "VRChat theatre" I need to recruit actors for an original play I'm making called "The Knuckles who found da wae"

[waxen crag]

Beautiful

[umbral reef]

@zinc solar Should hire professional voice actors and start a fundraiser

[zinc solar]

Yeah I was inspired vr Improvmod, and now I want to do VRChat theatre arts, and plays. Maybe musicals one day

No, this stuff will be live in theater for an audience. Max actors, 6, and max audience 30.

[umbral reef]

Also- We should start an anit mirror gang

[opaque hawk]

Me: makes a cute avatar with gothic lolitia clothing
Friends: cute maid!
Me: 😰

[zinc solar]

Not many people can tell the difference

[opaque hawk]

You could say
I never saw it coming

[rigid crescent]

I get hit with the "wow steampunk" thing with mine

[zinc solar]

I get hit with the "Is that a Mother F#@$%ing sprite cransberry?"

So anyone interested in my play? I need an actor for the roles of knuckles, knuckette, knuckles 1, knuckles 2, knuckles 3, and random girl.

[tiny ginkgo]

An anti mirror gang @umbral reef ? Focus on an anti crasher gang first

[nimble linden]

A good example of a popular map without a mirror is japan shrine

[near saffron]

Wish older non mirror maps like classic Gaia night and cafe Leblanc (probs spelled that wrong) were more popular

Yeah newer versions kinda ruined it. Better when none of the outside assets were there

[languid beacon]

For me here’s how it would go I assure you:
-Friend teleports in
-Oh you made a world?
-Were is the mirror?
-Is there even a mirror?
-Gotta teleport to a friend see you later.

[dark narwhal]

Lel

[umbral reef]

We should really start an anti mirror squad

And just have animations with big pieces of white papers saying "Talk- No mirror!" on it.

@tiny ginkgo gotta get realistic goals

Crashers aint something we can prevent-
We can block mirrors

[zinc solar]

🎵 I want to be the very best, like no ever was
suprising them from their nest
to make them crash just because
If you're a fan of illegal activity
then this is the thing for you
Striping people of their fun
from Kanna to Derpy Miku!
VRChrashers!!
You're gonna die.
The report will be your demise
VrChrashers!!
You're not my friend
I get scared when you attend
VRChashers!🎵

[tiny ginkgo]

I know I know and cameras

I saw it the other day for the first time

[dark narwhal]

Low key just make avatars that break mirrors

[tiny ginkgo]

But I mean.. some people like mirrors some people like to be mute and some people like to be loud. We all just gotta embrace our differences as long as people don't actively ruin it for others .. aka crashers

[umbral reef]

There are shaders for that @dark narwhal

[dark narwhal]

Yup there are shaders for everything

[tiny ginkgo]

Wah a person who talks what is this

[dark narwhal]

But i like mirrors

[vocal shard]

For being a mute?

[umbral reef]

Tbh i hate mirrors
I enjoy checking my avatar as im no used to them yet (because most of my playtime where on old avatars)
But i dont last long infront of mirrors and in the end move away form them by default

[tiny ginkgo]

For me it depends.. sometimes I like them sometimes I don't. It also depends on who I am with

[dark narwhal]

Nah talking is way more fun

I usually regret it when i try to be mute for awhile

[tiny ginkgo]

What else can you remove with shaders?

[dark narwhal]

Vision

[vocal shard]

Hmmmm, if you have a small cute avatar while being mute, you'll get headpats. Works for me for some reason.

[dark narwhal]

Just demand headpats as your birthright

[light dust]

theres a new lts version out do i update to it or not?

[vocal shard]

Lol, demanding defeats the purpose

[dark narwhal]

DEMAND IT WITH PLEASURE

[vocal shard]

But I'm mute!

Sometimes

[dark narwhal]

Learn to speak

[vocal shard]

Ok............

[dark narwhal]

THATS THE SPIRIT

WOOOOO

[tiny ginkgo]

Hearthy spirit

But eh, being a mute is fine

[prisma plover]

"Doctor, please surgically remove my vocal cords so I don't have to talk."

[tiny ginkgo]

No one can demand anything really, as long as you don't actively ruin their game by crashing or not following the rules

Well I guess the first is sort of implied by the latter

[vocal shard]

Nah, I like being one that sits idly by a group of people and hearing what they are talking about

[tiny ginkgo]

Yeah. We can't all be loudmouths

[prisma plover]

Some people are more "listeners" I guess.

[tiny ginkgo]

Observers

[vocal shard]

Yes. I guess we are mute listeners by a degree

Or like Nass says

[prisma plover]

And acknowledge by doing a thumbs up in VR.

👍

[vocal shard]

Lol. I nod my head when they speak to me

Or do the smile animation

[tiny ginkgo]

Sometimes

Observing, talking, dancing, laughing, cuddling.. all valid behaviour and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

[prisma plover]

Being lewd with FBT enabled. Also valid ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[tiny ginkgo]

NSFW stuff is actually against the rules I think but, eh, private rooms

[near saffron]

Most stuff is allowed as long as it’s kept in private.

[languid beacon]

I’m pretty silent and people assume I’m a mute and then I say a small thing occasionally and everyone looks over at me in shock.

[prisma plover]

There's a fine line between "dancing" and "lewd" 😅

[tiny ginkgo]

Eh, I dance nicely without lewding

Depends on the dance I guess!

[dark narwhal]

Sometimes people get attracted to me because i have cute fingers...its not my fault

[languid beacon]

The rule is very simple: Don’t get reported. What each person will report is different, so, have common sense and know your audience. It is easy for most, impossible for others. :p

[prisma plover]

Some folks said one of my avatar had nice toes. 🤔

Protect yourself: Wear shoes that cover those !

[vocal shard]

Foot fetishes everwhere!

[sleek ivy]

🤔

[near saffron]

just wear these

[sleek ivy]

Just get your tims

[languid beacon]

I would be offended if someone complimented my toes. Like. That’s my most apparent quality.

[dark narwhal]

Oof u should be wearing socks anyways...

[near saffron]

Being virtually objectified

[tiny ginkgo]

You have lovely... Rectus Femoris

[languid beacon]

It’s like “The ratio between your nostrils is very cute” UHH thanks I think!

[dark narwhal]

I roll up to grills and be like ur meshes are merged real cutely

[prisma plover]

😆

Such sexy vertices.

[dark narwhal]

I like the way you limit ur dynamic bones babe

[languid beacon]

Oh baby show me your texture atlas

[dark narwhal]

Hahaha

Draw call me like one of your french girls

[prisma plover]

👌

[zinc solar]

Is it possible to upload an avatar with 1 tris?

[opaque hawk]

I don’t see why not

[tacit plank]

0 is doable too

[prisma plover]

A single triangle plane I guess.
But even better: Upload 3 triangles made of one tri each. A triforce.

[tacit plank]

Or upload the mandelbrot set, resulting in infinite polygons

[vocal shard]

Use a rock avatar

Win

[prisma plover]

Upload a Blender logo avatar. Literally just the Blender logo on a flat plane.

[vocal shard]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[nimble linden]

I have a rock avatar

[prisma plover]

Idea: A rock avatar. Looks like a regular rock alright... until it opens up like a transformer. 😶

[languid beacon]

I really wanna see some transformer avatars with smooth transitions and seats

[prisma plover]

With the sound effects. 👌

[spring wagon]

I rarely see Transformers avatars

[near saffron]

Yeah haven’t seen one yet that doesn’t just instantly change to vehicle

[tiny ginkgo]

Sounds like a complex animation

[vocal shard]

Very very complex

Gotta have time for that

Alot of time

[spring wagon]

They could rip the animations from the games as well, but a smooth one could take weeks

[languid beacon]

Yeah we don’t do that here 😄

[nimble linden]

If you could find a model of one of the toys

It would be a simple animation

Or you could mash the two in blender and create a blendshape that is a morph between the two models. But that might not look that good lol

[lofty herald]

Any fans of Danganronpa want to chill in a DR themed world in VRChat?

[fading flower]

are we allowed to make 2 accounts

or is that a no no

[umbral reef]

Depends why

[fading flower]

i mean i just want a secind acount to do other things nothing bad or ban worthy of course this game is the *** s h i t*** for me

[edgy spire]

@rigid crescent It worked , thank's a lot !

[umbral reef]

Then you will be fine

[fading flower]

kk

also i probably will use same email so would my unity post the avatar on both acounts?

[near saffron]

Think u have to upload separately for both

[fading flower]

ok

but same email so same acc linked?

both of em might be linked

[near saffron]

Not sure

[kind anchor]

my knuckles has 0 polys 0 meshes

[coarse wyvern]

How?

[near saffron]

His knuckles transcend

[zinc solar]

For some reason the anime butts on VRChat are not that sexy when you look at it. They all look flat, and blocky

[near saffron]

Don’t look at them

[zinc solar]

Hard when you're a tiny bunny and have to look up.

Also, holy crap wtf is this "face sitting" I came across earlier in the pub.

[near saffron]

Play space move up to everyone else’s height

Also the hell..

[tacit plank]

Face sitting is sitting on faces

[zinc solar]

But on VRChat...

[near saffron]

[zinc solar]

when a character gets meshed close enough you see their emptiness inside, no idea what I walked into, but it was some guy making slurping noises and some girl breathing heavy as if she ate peanut butter after running 5 miles.

[vocal rain]

yo can someone help? VRChat is stuck on loading upon starting the game where the vrchat icon is spinning. does anyone have a solution?

[zinc solar]

#user-support-old

[vocal rain]

ty

[prisma plover]

@zinc solar Flat butts might be due to the widespread use of TDA avatars too. Which have no butt.

[zinc solar]

lmao

Next mod is a butt attachment

[near saffron]

Very descriptive on that event

[languid beacon]

@vocal rain cancel the login and type in your username and password manually you’ll get in right away, but it will happen again in a few days. Change your password to make the problem go away forever.

[vocal rain]

@languid beacon its stuck at the scene before the logging in scene

@languid beacon so i cant do anything with the the username and password as i dont have the option to

[languid beacon]

There should be a cancel button.

Oh I see spinning vrc logo. Try reinstalling the client or deleting your cache

Other than that I don’t know, sorry :x

[tiny ginkgo]

Yes try the things in the #vrchat-support channel

[lofty kraken]

guys how do you turn off safe mode i turned it on my accident but dont know how to turn in off

[vocal shard]

Like Windows' safe mode?

[umbral reef]

@lofty kraken there is a setting within the menu

[novel spoke]

Question for yall, do avatar pens always look like garbage to people observing?

Or just some types work better than others?

[umbral reef]

Fairly sure its both

[indigo fern]

For safety mode, it's the safety settings now, it changes your custom safety settings

[languid beacon]

@novel spoke there are good kind, bad kind, and of course even good kind can look bad if either person is lagging

[novel spoke]

Thats pretty helpful

I draw avatars on VRChat and public conference rooms can be hell

The only pen avatar I have the drawings come out pretty horrible

[languid beacon]

I know a lot of people use the Snail markers they work well but will make your avatar rated very poor

They are not laggy just vrc is very strict about huge bounding boxes

[novel spoke]

Not sure what im gonna do with that info

I really enjoy guerilla drawing out in public lobbies and its especially nice not to be erased ever 60 seconds

[torn nebula]

Can bounding box be changed dynamically with an enable emote?

[inner cape]

you have a marker?

[novel spoke]

Im not any sort of good at making avatars or anything, i just picked up a public avatar

[vocal shard]

Is there anyone I can contact to request a custom avatar?

[languid beacon]

There is a VRCTraders discord for specifically that

[umbral reef]

You can pay for commisiosn in the VRchat Traders discord that cna be found in the #community-servers-old tab

[orchid lance]

gun games in vrchat is kinda unfair for users who can't duel wield guns due to not having a vr headsets (wish I could get the switch joycon to work in vr so I could use them... but need a stupid headset to get it to work)

[vocal shard]

Anyone into VRChat Roleplays? I'm looking to join an RP group. Tag me or DM me if you're interested in having another member in your group/party. I should mention I'm using a Windows Mixed Reality headset/controllers,. so I do have a VR setup.

[orchid lance]

people roleplay seriously in vrchat????? I always thought people always roleplay unseriously

[umbral reef]

People have roleplayed seriously on the internet since text boards where a thing

[orchid lance]

yea true I do like to roleplay but vrchat is kinda too wacky to be taken seriously in roleplaying alittle

and question why is their still users playing as uganda knuckles in 2019

[umbral reef]

If we knew that we could prevent it

[queen mango]

A weird celebration of sorts

[opaque hawk]

Because irony exists

[orchid lance]

but it ment to be dead

[queen mango]

Celebrating what appears to be a good meme (which while propelled VRChat, also brought in some bad aspects of the new community)

[vocal shard]

"Good meme"

[queen mango]

Basically, old Discorders here no longer pay visits.. some

[languid beacon]

Reddit did a thing a few weeks back “January 2019 everyone post Ugandan knuckles and make people think the meme is back” the thing is when you do that it acts like a Sparkplug and unironically jumpstarts the meme again for real

[vocal shard]

And I'm not finding a lot of VRChat roleplayers, that's part of why I'm here

It doesn't have to be serious, I'm just trying to jump in

[umbral reef]

@languid beacon it didnt really though

Its not like no one used the avatar anymore

And form what i have seen... Its not filling worlds upon worlds like before

[queen mango]

But there is the UChungus now. And is it filling up worlds like its old heretical brother?

[umbral reef]

I seen that one a fair bit in he few worlds yea

[rough pulsar]

No, I've seen one so far. Back during the red plague those horrid little things were everywhere

[queen mango]

Ah yes, December to January.. it may have extended until April, I believe

[languid beacon]

I don’t know how people RP. I’ve always been afraid of when stage performers / characters talk to me both in real life and in vrc get frozen and cannot play along. I can talk normally, but I never want to mess up a bit someone is doing

It’s like those stage plays where they interact with people at the end of isles. I never sit at the end of isles

I have no idea where I was going with any of this. RP is weird and scares me lol

[queen mango]

Have you ever tried acting like another character?

[languid beacon]

Can’t say I have. I think it’s awesome when other people do it but I’d rather jump out a window than perform and be the center of attention.

[rough pulsar]

It's something I guess you just have to dive into and get used to.
Over a year ago now I first got roped into going on stage at what's now VRChat sunday night improv, and I felt kinda the same. Terrified, oh god what am I doing what do I do what what what, and now I'm not terrified of it at all.

[queen mango]

You get used to it the more and more you get into it.

[rough pulsar]

Exactly, and while I can only speak for myself I'd say it's definitely done me some good.

[orchid lance]

is there a way to play vr with out a headset

[umbral reef]

We RP always though 👀
When you are at work you act like a better you then with your friends or online

[prisma plover]

In a way, yeah that's true.

[near saffron]

I think I RP as a worst person when I’m at uni

[umbral reef]

My goal is to always be the worse me

[orchid lance]

is there a way to play vr mode with out a headset?

[umbral reef]

So that when i get tired and bored i impress people

[languid beacon]

I’m not 100% sure what you have in mind Veadeo

My main question would be HOW would you do it without a headset

Isn’t desktop mode just VR without a head or hands?

[orchid lance]

joycons....

I want be able to have hands

[torn nebula]

joycons don't have any way to determine absolute positioning

[languid beacon]

As far as I’m aware you need StramVR to think a headset is connected. I have no idea how that would be accomplished without a headset. Just keep in mind if Steam thinks there is a headset you can no longer use the mouse to look up and down.

[torn nebula]

you could maybe fake a HMD with inputemulator or something but you still need 6DOF controllers. joycons can only determine their orientation, not position, so they would not be usable as hands

[umbral reef]

Could use phone VR with joycons but then you need a beefy phone and cant play for too long

[languid beacon]

Kinect could work but it does not really do head rotation at all

And it’s very delayed

Some of the more complex setups might be more hassle than just buying a real headset though

[vocal shard]

Vrchat been buggy since the new update

[near saffron]

Nothing new then

[languid beacon]

And Gb I am the same. I don’t have a character, or an avatar. I just act like myself and talk to people normally. It’s more like the oasis to me. I look different but I’m just myself.

[vocal shard]

Like I can’t refresh tabs anymore

[languid beacon]

I think that’s pretty much most people

Yeah menus are pretty messed up and randomly work or don’t work for me

[vocal shard]

anyone want to do a horror map

Whenever an engine upgrade gets announced

[prisma plover]

What lags the most for me is the favorite avatars feature. Like a favorite an avatar, and it won't show up until a long time after adding it.

[vocal shard]

^^^

That I also have a problem with

[languid beacon]

I also still don’t have a favorite worlds feature

If I look at mine I see 3 tabs for a second then they all vanish

[vocal shard]

VRC is more broken than F13 the game rn

[languid beacon]

It works good for me aside from menus

[orchid lance]

it fun to get people together for a court room in vr

I might do kinect thing also

[queen mango]

Will Pan be your lawyer?

[orchid lance]

I tried to get people togeter

together for one* I had hitler as my lawyer

[queen mango]

That's.. interesting..

[orchid lance]

yup it is

[vocal shard]

❤

[orchid lance]

I need to try and find my old kinect

hopefully my brother didn't give that alway to his friends

[vocal shard]

reeeeeeeee

[prisma plover]

Is Boosette alright ?

[zinc solar]

Just got a weird request for a "All KDA members nude model." wtf is a KDA?

[vocal shard]

...

It's that LoL music video.

[zinc solar]

Ohhhh okay

[orchid lance]

who here know the mmd dance world

[zinc solar]

should have added a K/DA, I thought it was something completely different without the '/'

[vocal shard]

Meee

[near saffron]

Yikes request

[zinc solar]

Luckily I already made an ERP Ahri, and Akali before, so I just need the other 2 girls.

[vocal shard]

Probably a request from 30-year old men.

[zinc solar]

People want to bust a VRNut to their fav chars

[orchid lance]

request?

[zinc solar]

Even if they don't have a partner, there are worlds where they have "dolls" to do-the-do with

[orchid lance]

confused on request thing

[vocal shard]

...

[prisma plover]

Humans being humans 😅

[near saffron]

God, worlds like that exist. Don’t know why I’m surprised

[zinc solar]

Ooohhhh you'll be surprised on those worlds....

Some are crappy, and some look like people spent way too much time making these dolls be lifelike...

[vocal shard]

anyone want to do a horror map

y/n

[near saffron]

hope I never get invited to one of them maps (not horror, the doll ones)

[vocal shard]

its hds christmas

heard of it

[orchid lance]

question what the cheapest headset you can use for pc just curious like one that's still good but cheap

[umbral reef]

Wmr

[median basalt]

WMR probably, but depends on location

Oculus is as expensive as WMR here, in which case Oculus is the better choice

You can get an oculus for like $350 or $450 now though

[near saffron]

No not heard of that map I don’t think

[orchid lance]

ok

Just really wish to be able to play vr games with the motions controls and shit

[umbral reef]

WMR is the way to go then

But just google the headsets

[vocal shard]

Oculus and Vive is like Samsung and Iphones

Be aware the WMR controllers lose a lot of their tracking when outside your view for more than a few seconds

One is more expensive

One is actually better

[languid beacon]

WMR if you are cheaping out but you get what you pay for, and it’s still quite a bit of money to pay for something that’s pretty bad, a little extra money could get you something way better. But, eh.

[vocal shard]

You can swing outside your view, but you basically can't hold it there. Oculus probably has better tracking, considering.

[umbral reef]

@vocal shard Whats better then?

[vocal shard]

This is coming from someone with WMR.

I'm speaking from experience.

Definitely oculus

[umbral reef]

I meant as whats better from that

[languid beacon]

Oculus for VRChat. Vive if you want full body but the controllers are ew

[vocal shard]

Controls

[umbral reef]

That only is better for VRchat and no shooter games?

[vocal shard]

It controls better with any game

[umbral reef]

You legit wrote off a headset for a single game? Because of one reason?

[languid beacon]

Oculus has dual analog sticks which works good for games better than vive’s trackpads

[vocal shard]

Somebody tryna start somthin

[languid beacon]

In my opinion of course

[umbral reef]

Used both controllers for different types of games
Shooters are WAY more fun with vive
With that said- Shooting in Vr sucks ass always

[vocal shard]

Not only is oculus much cheaper

[umbral reef]

@languid beacon Most games limit the controls because of the vive-
So because of that its sadly more capped then it could

[vocal shard]

But it has the best controller

[twin jacinth]

Don't get the big bois in here now

[median basalt]

The Vive controllers are pretty clearly the worst controllers that exist right now

[vocal shard]

Get the big boys

[median basalt]

The WMR controllers are the best for shooters and the Oculus Touch is the best for this game

[vocal shard]

Never even heard of WME

*wmr

[languid beacon]

I don’t think even the biggest vive fanboy would claim that the vive controllers are superior to ... anything

[median basalt]

Vive is incredibly overpriced, controllers break easily and HTC support refuses to acknowledge the issue. They get away with it all because they're the only ones with proper body trackers right now.

[languid beacon]

Several people are typing

[near saffron]

I hear they break a lot more then oculus

[umbral reef]

I never tried the WMR ones but with what i have seen they should be best for shooters indeed

[median basalt]

WMR has sticks, touchpads and I think it has triggers too

[inner cape]

dev meetups suck

[umbral reef]

They do die fast though when tapped

Even worse the vive

[vocal shard]

Like I said the vive is like iPhones

[umbral reef]

but as the vive can die from bad useage its less noticeable

[prisma plover]

@inner cape Wasn't this one without Squid ? Cause no Squid = sad.

[umbral reef]

Tbh vive is more like the samsung and oculus is something like One Plus

Vive is still overpriced with some bloated extra's
Oculus is bang for ya buck and nothing else

[languid beacon]

We really need a hardware newcomer. We have HTC which bad support, and Oculus which seems indifferent to the future of PC VR.

[vocal shard]

Samsung isn’t overpriced tho

[median basalt]

Yeah, we need more competition.

[vocal shard]

It’s much cheaper than the iPhone

[median basalt]

We need more controllers too. Not just headsets.

[vocal shard]

And this is coming from an iPhone user

[median basalt]

Pimax has their stuff coming out, StarVR is canceled

[prisma plover]

Maybe an open source project ? 🤔

[median basalt]

We need more headsets and more controllers. Pimax controllers are actually god tier

[umbral reef]

Samsung isnt overpriced? The fuck?

[median basalt]

Samsung is way overpriced, all it has is resolution

[twin jacinth]

Samsung is pretty pricy haha

[median basalt]

The Samsung odyssey is $500

[umbral reef]

Its nothing overpriced like the iphone if you compare it flat out
Its still overpriced in the grans scale

[median basalt]

For $50 less you have an oculus

[languid beacon]

But oculus rift had an insane, stupid amount of R&D behind it and it really does show in almost every aspect of it, so it’s what I recommend. Good controllers, comfy headset

[near saffron]

Light too

[umbral reef]

Tbh its why im hyped to see how the new vive stuff works out

[vocal shard]

400-500 seems pretty average for a phone

[umbral reef]

They should have learned now

[prisma plover]

Can confirm: You can accidentally punch a wall with an Oculus controller and it most likely survive. Don't know about the Vive tho.

[vocal shard]

I can confirm that if you punch your wife with the oculus controller it will survive also

[median basalt]

The only downside to the Oculus Rift is that it doesn't fit every head shape

[umbral reef]

Depending where/how it can come lose
All you need is a good clicking back and its fine

[median basalt]

It just doesn't fit my head, the front slides down all the time

[near saffron]

Yeah oculus controllers have the strength of console controllers

[umbral reef]

Worse that happens on the vive is too much pressing (and specific places) on the touchpad what can overwork the trigger and make it fail

[languid beacon]

Yeah I must have gotten really lucky on the head shape

[vocal shard]

Valve is selling out folks

[umbral reef]

Still happens what is retarded and bad design

[prisma plover]

So basically accelerated wear down

[umbral reef]

Jup

[median basalt]

I have to attach a counterweight to my Oculus some day so I can actually have it balanced on my head

[umbral reef]

Its why steamVR got remapping... Or atleast a big reason its added so fast

[median basalt]

Fionna apparently ties her ponytail around the back to hold it up

[twin jacinth]

I have had literally no problems with my vive in the 7 months i've had it
been playing a lot as well, guess i was lucky with my Vive

[median basalt]

I have several friends who own a Vive and I think pretty much all of them have had broken controllers

[umbral reef]

Well same and i smahed it open more then once ....

Still running fin

But i know my tech so that might help me loads tbh

[languid beacon]

My main problem with vive is I feel like I’m on a timer with the recharge times.

[near saffron]

Amount of times Harry has had problems alone kept me away from vive

[vocal shard]

Your girl also calls me daddy

[near saffron]

I’ll take the trackers tho. But not anything else

[twin jacinth]

Well the only thing with my headset is this 1 black dot which only appears on certain surfaces, but i don't see it 90% of the time so it's not really a big problem for me

[median basalt]

Vive trackers are good but also a bit pricy

Also no straps by default, G1 uses rubber bands

[languid beacon]

Yeah I’m Oculus with vive trackers. Stupid expensive, awkward setup, but best of both worlds. Even then, many days I just go oculus only. Becasue vive stuff is a pain to work with

[near saffron]

Same

[median basalt]

I don't have the money for all the Vive stuff right now, I wish cheaper alternatives for Oculus existed

[near saffron]

I got mine when they were quite cheap in the UK

[median basalt]

And full body is a bit painful right now anyway, the head doesn't have 100% weight on the IK

[umbral reef]

Look at the smart phone market when it started
The competition is only now starting up making anything decent

[median basalt]

So you have to like, merge the neck into the head, flip the hips upside down and basically invalidate your spine

And even then it looks bad but at least clips into your own head less

[prisma plover]

I put the Vive trackers behind my shoe laces.

[umbral reef]

And compare that to VR tech... Its legit Vive, Oculus or WMR.
All others are too iffy or small for now

[gilded bronze]

hi there! I wanna ask you about how can I find cool avatars with big animations like global? worlds?

[languid beacon]

Yeah all the fbt bugs make it kind of discouraging there’s so much you can’t get away with anymore in terms of avatar design

You can’t even sit in chairs with fbt

[umbral reef]

@gilded bronze using global world animations/particles is an easy way to get hate and be blocked by loads within Vrchat...
Just as an FYI.

[gilded bronze]

I see them everyday

[near saffron]

Yeah I don’t want to even really attempt doing a meta knight model cuz I know full body is gona pull me into the ground

[prisma plover]

@languid beacon You basically need to grab a real life chair, sit on it, then adjust your floor height to fit what you want to sit on.

[languid beacon]

I need the real world chair dlc

[twin jacinth]

I got the FBT but rarely use it because of the proportions tbh
and you have those days where if you change avatar it all fucks up and you can't adjust it right after
Maaan

[umbral reef]

@gilded bronze If you meanw ith the screenshake and ect even
Thats trolling... Those people have and do get banned for that...

[twin jacinth]

Once it works it's amazing though

[languid beacon]

Yeah I have my main avatar that looks good in fbt and ... nothing else. As soon as my friends go avatar world exploring, it’s time to take my trackers off so I can participate

[gilded bronze]

yea screenshake or blindness but I think its cool

[prisma plover]

I thought I would get FBT mostly for dancing. Then I discovered lewd.
😅

[gilded bronze]

not just for griefing

[umbral reef]

Yea no

[twin jacinth]

Lewd?
Man... GB I'm disappointed in you

[umbral reef]

_ Hey gb what is your IG name again?_

[twin jacinth]

Oclac... ;-;

[umbral reef]

Im a pure boy jufo dw

I hate things close to my face so lewding is a big no no

[twin jacinth]

[prisma plover]

Meh, always ask first if it's okay.

[gilded bronze]

and when vrchat getting steam workshop?

[twin jacinth]

That's great actually, most people just go up to you and do shits

[gilded bronze]

its been years...

[umbral reef]

Prob never tbh

[gilded bronze]

safety is useless tbh

[languid beacon]

@JapaneseLettereICantType probably never

[gilded bronze]

lol

[umbral reef]

Tbh- I actually wonder if they can even use steamworkshop with how the game it made. Im fairly sure it isnt capable

[twin jacinth]

Sylvanas Windrunner same as the pfp
big ooof

[torn nebula]

@SilvanaWindrunner vrchat has its own system for distributing assets, steam workshop is more useful for games without such a system

[gilded bronze]

but you need to make ur own from scratch

which takes at least 4 hours

[torn nebula]

make your own what?

[gilded bronze]

using blender and unity

[languid beacon]

The steam workshop would basically just be a reference to a UUID. “Subscribing” to the workshop item adds the uuid to your inventory. There could be a new category for workshop items. Still, it would be a support nightmare

[ruby burrow]

On that previous conversation, in terms of overall durability the Vive controllers are built like hammers, it's just the touchpad that's flawed.

[umbral reef]

You can download an MMD
Press 1 button
Press like 5 more buttons
Export it into unity
Press some mroe buttons a tutorial explains and boom ezpz

Or just use avatar worlds ...

[torn nebula]

if you just want to use an asset that's fully pre-made, that's a public avatar or world. If you want to modify it, that's not really something steam workshop is designed for anyway

[umbral reef]

Thats legit a steam workshop inside VRchat anyway

[gilded bronze]

but

[ruby burrow]

My brother has let multiple of his far too rough friends use his vive, and now has multiple chunks of his wall missing or dented in. Barely scratched the plastic.

[gilded bronze]

for example you want kanna avatar. you cannot search directly for that avatar just searching it through worlds which takes time

[languid beacon]

Yeah it’s really easy just learn *the entireity of blender and unity development *

[umbral reef]

There are Kanna worlds with hundreds of kanna types

[torn nebula]

better search functionality would certainly be welcome. that doesn't necessarily mean using steam workshop though

[gilded bronze]

yea search for "item" is needed

[umbral reef]

@languid beacon Its legit pressing buttons now for 99% of all mmd avatars...
You dont manually decimate, combine materials, merge stuff or ect anymore

[prisma plover]

Yup, porting MMD stuff is like easy mode now.

[languid beacon]

Cats is lovely

[prisma plover]

Thanks Cats, yup.

[ruby burrow]

Ironically the hard part is finding a vanilla kanna that's not a meme or covered in weird gang stuff.

[gilded bronze]

thats not end up with mmd

you need to add animations

gestures etc

[umbral reef]

You dont need to

And there are prefabs for that stuf

[torn nebula]

the hard part with MMD stuff is finding things with a license that allows you to import to vrc and/or mod in the ways you intend to mod... you have to dig through 10 readmes in the zip package to find all the license terms for some of these things, it's silly

[languid beacon]

Cats is good for non mmd too. With a few extra steps you can make it think anything is an mmd and cats will play with it nice

[prisma plover]

I never use any custom animations or gestures because I don't like making faces when I just want to do a hand gesture. 😅

[gilded bronze]

xnalara is hard

[prisma plover]

Yeah XNALara requires a lot of steps.

[umbral reef]

@torn nebula Tbh- No one gives a fuck.
And from the licenses i found on some models. They often are breaking there own rules...

I dont support using those models but being realistic is also a thing :x

[languid beacon]

I spent my first 5 months with an avatar with no hand gestures so I learned to talk with body language including oculus hand gestures. So now I can’t use avatars with triggers or ill just trigger them constantly

[ruby burrow]

Just match your faces to the logical hand gesture. '-'

[torn nebula]

@umbral reef I know a lot of people are ignoring those conditions... doesn't mean I should join in though. Particularly since I can read the japanese-language readmes so I have no excuse

[ruby burrow]

Thumbs up = slight smile
Peace sign = photo face
etc

[torn nebula]

I just wish the various modeling sites had a "filter by license conditions" feature

[umbral reef]

Ow i also follow the rules myself for that. I mainly use more 'rare' models so me respecting the authors wishes so they dont get removed is important for me

[languid beacon]

Yeah but I’ll still randomly wink and stuff with occasional unintentional peace signs etc so I just don’t bother xD

[torn nebula]

because if it's something silly like "only use parts on other TDA-style models" I'd just prefer to get that out of my search results

[languid beacon]

I’ve settled for random micro expressions on my idle slot

[prisma plover]

If MMD licenses were respected, half of VRChat avatars would disappear or something.

Maybe more.

[gilded bronze]

I want to ask one more question

my old avatars which was working some time ago

now gives red skin?

and doesnt load

[torn nebula]

the avatar was deleted or set to private

[languid beacon]

Was it uploaded before the upgrade to Unity 2017

[gilded bronze]

it was 5 6 months ago

[languid beacon]

Red hologram usually means the avatar was deleted but it can also happen in other undefined cases

But it most probably was either set to private or deleted

Unless it’s your own upload. If that’s the case, reupload it on the current unity VRChat wants

[gilded bronze]

no

it was on a map called avatars museum

but world is accessable

[languid beacon]

That’s normal

The avatar itself was deleted or set to private by the person who uploaded it.

[gilded bronze]

thx

[vocal shard]

[tiny ginkgo]

If you would like to be mute you could stitch it's mouth together

Then you have an easy explanation for not talking ❤

[prisma plover]

Even more genius 😆

Or make a zombie. Zombies aren't exactly the most talkative beings... except that one anime.

[umbral reef]

@tiny ginkgo hug me to sleep-
Kay tnx

[tiny ginkgo]

Oclac you wonderful person. I reserve only the best hugs for you

hug and smooch

Now sleep

[prisma plover]

If you are actually going to bed, nini Oclac. With a small pat on shoulder.

[tiny ginkgo]

Laying in bed cold .. oof

My bed was literally a tiny bit wet from condense

I'm going to die

[queen mango]

[umbral reef]

join mine then

[tiny ginkgo]

Don't tell anyone

[umbral reef]

Also ye aGB its 2 am here

[prisma plover]

High humidity eh ?
Dehumidifier might be needed 🤔

[tiny ginkgo]

2:12!

[queen mango]

It's kinda different here.. the air seems pretty dry

[tiny ginkgo]

Yea I'm just waiting for January to pass

Anyways I do need to sleep now

Just wanted to say hi

[prisma plover]

Nini Nassachi 🖐

[queen mango]

Oh.. hello, and goodnight Nassie

[tiny ginkgo]

Tata

❤

[queen mango]

[finite kraken]

Can someone help me a bit after work. I have a world I want to make public but all my friends are assholes who rather sit infront of the mirror and chill

[covert linden]

can I join your friends

[vocal shard]

Sounds like you have some good friends

At least they aren't ERPing

[finite kraken]

Send me a DM and I will make an invite

Oh about 80% are lewd

[covert linden]

My group loves to sit in front of mirrors but usually we ride rollercoasters

@dark narwhal loves the rollercoasters

[vocal shard]

Hey, lewd is good, I think

[dark narwhal]

NO MORE COASTERS

[vocal shard]

Meh, depends if you have innocence or not

[prisma plover]

New objective:
📌 Try those rollercoasters

[covert linden]

with vr

[prisma plover]

Of course. And FBT for the lulz.

[vocal shard]

having a seizure thanks to FBT

[prisma plover]

Followed by FBT confusion.

[vocal shard]

Followed by FBT insurance

[rigid crescent]

just follow the #public-world-request instructions

[scenic briar]

WHY THE FUCK DOES THE DISCORD ON MY LAPTOP NOT HAVE A SCROLL WHEEL FOR SERVERS

[vocal shard]

#general-media

[scenic briar]

lol;

[covert linden]

I wanna make a rollercoaster world but ive got no skill

[vocal shard]

Sorry, had to, it's that or Ruuubick telling you that

[covert linden]

but see the intent is theere

[midnight obsidian]

Hello people I am having a visual issue with my world since the Unity update, could any one help please?

[opaque hawk]

what is your problem

[midnight obsidian]

First of all I though that by reuploading the world after the update would solve it, I just did it now, but it did not work

Problem is that the picture is split by 2 on the screen, and it is worse with Oculus, the screen is split by 2 for each eye

the picture is split horizontaly

[opaque hawk]

its a post processing issue

https://gitlab.com/s-ilent/SCSS/wikis/Other/Post-Processing

[midnight obsidian]

That means I see a picture on left side of the screen and a different one in the right side of the screen

I was thinking about that

[opaque hawk]

yes this is a well known post processing issue

[midnight obsidian]

What could be a soluton?

[opaque hawk]

I'd recommend redoing it. That guide I linked tells you all the does and don'ts.

Just the post processing not the entire map

[midnight obsidian]

Oh, thanks dude

[opaque hawk]

np

[vocal shard]

yall good gaymers

[midnight obsidian]

@opaque hawk Thanks dude! 😄

Indeed the Antialiasing was causing the problem

I don't even know why I had it enabled there in the first place

[empty wharf]

🔪

[queen mango]

Oh, hello Vein

[lofty herald]

Anyone want to hang out in VRChat whose a fan of Danganronpa?

[stone current]

i wonder wat games support ffb vests

its basically the suit in ready player one but for the torso only

this one is more similar but i don't think its for sale https://youtu.be/u9PjcgqKAfw

[cold talon]

If only there where more game devs supporting it
https://j.gifs.com/vWGM4A.gif

[stone current]

lol ikr

apparently these ppl making it work for unity and unreal engine and etc

so would be cool to actually see this stuff in popular games

woah

u don't even need trackers it already has FBT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399314021934825487/534266934976315393/image0.png

[tiny ginkgo]

"Avatar system"

[stone current]

yea so essentially

[cold talon]

Huh intresting

[stone current]

it can
A: make u feel stuff
B: make u feel temperatures
C: can track ur body motion
D: knows ur body build

that c00l af

[tiny ginkgo]

Make you feel stuff is always interesting

[stone current]

we already reaching ready player one

haha, they said they releasing it in 2019 for console prices

[tiny ginkgo]

Eeh

[cold talon]

Make you feel stuff, vrc private instance uh oh

[stone current]

lmao

actually that would probably suc 4 guy unless it has a zipper owo

inb4 theres a 'special' version

[tiny ginkgo]

Oh dear

I meant more in an ethical sense

Imagine harassment

[stone current]

phantom touch irl

u can either develop severe phantom touch or throw 500 buck down the drain

[tiny ginkgo]

I have the first.

[stone current]

[tiny ginkgo]

Money saved

[stone current]

xd

[tiny ginkgo]

[stone current]

woof

at leat u cant feel people behind u

[tiny ginkgo]

purr

[stone current]

it would probably be terrible for vrchat tho

[tiny ginkgo]

I can close my eyes as well

[stone current]

imagine wat walking thru ppl gonn feel like

[tiny ginkgo]

Oof

[stone current]

*random desktop user walk thru u* OW

[tiny ginkgo]

I would fear the constant human contact

[stone current]

*annoying boye keeps booping u in no no squares*

is good idea just not for like this

i wonder if it has like actuators

[cold talon]

Desktop user uses walk thru, its super effective!

[stone current]

so if u like put ur arm on something u cant move ur arm into it

prob not

[cold talon]

Most likely not

But there's a glove for that

[vocal shard]

Reeeeeeeeeeee

[cold talon]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[vocal shard]

👌

[cold talon]

[stone current]

borkk

[opaque hawk]

guess I wasted my money

[stone current]

on wat

vive trackers?

[opaque hawk]

the phantom touch joke

[stone current]

o

[opaque hawk]

no phantom touch

[stone current]

i don't think u need sensors or anything

so if its like 500 or so

might be cheaper than oculus + vive mixed setup

if u have oculus

[opaque hawk]

I'm good with just hands for now

[stone current]

so mayb ill look into it just for FBT

if steamvr could support it

bc like i think it just tracks in suit and sends data to pc

trackers + sensors + straps vs suit

[cold talon]

The trackers position is quite different from the standard fbt setup

[stone current]

wym

also does vrchat support elbows

[cold talon]

Nope

[stone current]

oof

[cold talon]

Only Hands hip and feet

[stone current]

ig bc of the ik

cuz if u have like a tracker for every joint

wat even use of IK

lul

[cold talon]

Maybe spine rotation and neck

Would be intresting if the system would support knees and elbows, like future proofing for new tech

[stone current]

honestly

suits probably gonna come out mid-2019 and won't be used anywhere relevant until like early 2021

RPO should have guessed like 2028

because 2045 is later than u would think

but wow this stuff is getting made so quickly

makes u feel like its one innovation after the other

to the point where u don't even realize anymore

like how many of u heard of teslasuit or axon exoskeleton before

yet they already so close to being publicly released and being tested

[rigid crescent]

it's all worthless if no game wants to integrate it due to the high price

[stone current]

yea ik but like i said probably willbe soon

[rigid crescent]

it's a complete waste of resources to even bother with most of this stuff. we can have all the hardware we want and it's trash unless we've got software to match

[stone current]

bc its interesting concept, very marketable, and they are realeasing developer SDKs for popular game engines

and u could probably also contact them about supporting it manually

bc these people smart and if ur making unity or UE games

they not gonna be like "heres how it works knock urself out

they gona be giving guides and api and tools to make it easier

and yea it is a waste of resources

until like 2025 or so

[rigid crescent]

Its' a waste until there's content

[stone current]

if it doesnt flop it might kickstart us into RPO era lol

VR starting booming so quickly tho

[umbral oracle]

also, a lot of times in technology, the better solutions tend to be those with simpler hardware

if we're looking at 2025, camera based pose estimation is going to be pretty much perfect

no need to 3d trackers to tell the computer where each bone is

[stone current]

it was so irrelevant and all of a sudden its very popular and its going to become more affordable soon

[umbral oracle]

just more as a reference point maybe - the HMD will do that well enough

[umbral reef]

Even if the hardware is there the software and the money has to be there

[stone current]

yea but they all releasing tools and drivers and etc

[rigid crescent]

Exactly my point. Why bother if most people can't afford the hardware?

[stone current]

not like some failed early released project

[umbral oracle]

the only reason to have a suit is to be able to provide...stimuli...that require contact with the skin

[umbral reef]

Unless they can make those suits cheap or sound interesting for companies who are only now starting to make there VR things...

[stone current]

all u buy is the suit everything else is installed

[umbral reef]

Or even make it instantly high quallity so you dont have a sweat suit...

[rigid crescent]

"all you buy is the suit" yeah the almost 1-thousand dollar suit, and the pc, and the headset...

[stone current]

be nekkid

they said around console prices but a bit higher

so closer to 500-600 than 1000

[umbral oracle]

I mean at that point why not do those CGI movie studio suits with the white dots on them

[twin jacinth]

I'd buy it, looks cool imo

[umbral reef]

And have they shoved a proto type to anyone yet?

[stone current]

because u feel heat and touch

[umbral oracle]

what's special about this compared to the techniques that have been in use for decades

[umbral reef]

Or only there own employe and nothing else

[stone current]

yep check utube

a lot of people have tried it and its been tested a bunch but its not heard of

[rigid crescent]

So basically nothing lol

[umbral reef]

Throw me a link

[stone current]

theres also a very similar concept where its not just all that, but also walking, jumping, etc

google it my dude

[umbral reef]

"VR suit"
Then i get loads of bullshit claims and video's

[rigid crescent]

I mean again the whole issue is "Why do we want to integrate this into our game when like 10 people have it?"

[umbral oracle]

you can do walking and jumping right now with trackers

[stone current]

https://youtu.be/2uAbUNgP25M

no but i mean while feeling the world

and while doing it in real life

[umbral oracle]

ok so it's about the...stimuli - That I understand

[umbral reef]

Look at the walkpads for VR
Even with all the development in them- They imo went back in usability...
They got cheaper yea but also less easy to get and use...

[stone current]

without hitting things or getting caught

[umbral oracle]

but it's not a mass market thing at that point I think

[stone current]

but look

this is the axon https://youtu.be/jk-3kZ7ytZs

obviously this is nowhere near affordable or maintainable

but give it a decade or 2 and maybe itll be much more than u would think

[umbral reef]

https://youtu.be/2uAbUNgP25M?t=7m42s Gee i wonder why it didnt work

Its not like motion caption has open source free shit online

And touch is anything from special with all the student projects who did the same with smart clothing

[rigid crescent]

lol give it 20 years

[stone current]

yea lol

[rigid crescent]

of course in 20 years it'll be accessible

[stone current]

thats the cool part tho

[umbral oracle]

anyway my point is full body tracking/motion capture is here today with trackers, and will be here for everyone in a couple years with an off the shelf camera and some ML algorithms

so the novelty here both in the suit and the glove is the touch

[stone current]

itll get to the point where like in RPO all u do is put on a suit (or have it under u clothes) and u could step in/on something and boom full vr experience

[twin jacinth]

I just want full dive vr before i die and my life is complete
not that it is possible but i have my hopes

[umbral oracle]

and I think that's really cool but it means it is more of a luxury item than a necessity as far as VR is concerned

[stone current]

itd be super cool if u could do physical labor over the air also

[umbral reef]

But with this tech goes
The more polished as fuck the video's are the higher the odds its a nit picked video that makes the thing look perfect while its far from it

[stone current]

like say being a secretary bot across the world without having to go there

or even an AI doing that maybe

[umbral oracle]

well it's one then the other

[stone current]

yea its a pretty cool thing but again its still not ready

[umbral oracle]

where do you think you're going to get the training data for the AI

[umbral reef]

Axon is more realistic with it the the other suite and it plain shows how the tech isnt ready yet

[stone current]

yea thats why i said over the air physical labor first

cuz we can do robots ez for manufacturing

but not for human/social interaction

at least not yet

but would be cool if we could get to that point

in the coming years

or even to the point where

robots become so affordable and strong

that u could have VR emergency crews

[umbral reef]

Robots right now are expensive AF though

And nothing like we think of robots

[stone current]

yea but imagine that theyre so expendable and good at their job

that u can have someone in vr

lifting rubble or escaping from the ashes and etc

without harming themselves and while being efficient

[umbral reef]

A robot can only have one option right now and thats:
Walk
Talk/eye track/think
Use hands

[stone current]

yea but with VR controlled robot not AI robot

[umbral reef]

You think an AI thats perfect aint better?

[stone current]

it obviously is

but we havent gotten there yet

were closer to this stage

bc like we have fully actuating robots and have over the air tracking transmission

[umbral reef]

We only just got to the part where a robot can do more then just talk, track and think

[stone current]

and we do have AI but its not that smart het

[umbral reef]

The first bulky af robots are being used to walk

[stone current]

especially vs an actual human

[umbral reef]

or more roll around

But this is #general-media

[stone current]

i thik they have bots that can run already

[cold talon]

Ai, ugh I hate how ai is now used as a buzz word

[umbral reef]

Better then the word robot being misused

[cold talon]

Peps misuse robot?

[tacit plank]

Any tall people with FBT in here? I want to know if being too tall will cause problems

[twin jacinth]

How tall, Caffeine?

[tacit plank]

6'8

[umbral oracle]

it's not as much the height as it is the proportions hips -> feet, hips -> head, length of each arm

[twin jacinth]

Proportions in game isn't realistic at all so to get it accurate you need to adjust it to your body, but i don't think it's a bigger problem for you than anyone else

[velvet quarry]

Aslong as your height doesn't occlude the lighthouse's Line of Sight to eachother, I don't expect it to be a problem.

[tacit plank]

My in-game floor is like 20cm above the ground already, I think it's because the trackers are too far up and have a height limit