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Sounds like the hdmi is running from the integrated graphics. Like some laptops tend to do where they split the gpu workload
Hmm and you tried forcing it to switch with the F buttons and other things or?
intel chipset .. eww mobile
Oh
I wasnt sure how to do much
Fair enough
I updated the nvidia
Yay!
Get a desktop and be free of troubles..
Ima update nvidia or at least try and so if theres any tips theb
Not everyone can be rich like u I haveno job
I wont soon anyway
Not me...
im just entitled.. doesnt mean im lucky in any way though..
You're never free of trouble
If you have any tips on how I could get it to sense the hdmi pls tell ill screenshot and try it all
Once its done resetting
I am still considering if I should get a part-time job in a fast-food restaurant.. like practice for the real job I want to take
...once I finish school
go into device manager tab and check if that port is correctly showing.. not a yellow triangle with a black exclamation mark helps..
so you believe it to be software aka driver?
Yeah
if it is a nvidia based card.. might as well go with the beta
I tried to update them and it broke my screen
brand new is no guarantee for anything ๐ Just wanting to trow that out there ๐
Hmm.. have you tried using the "Run with Graphics Processor" option to run Oculus?
Have you tried something else on the HDMI port?
Literally my screen was half my screen
Tv or whatever
half a screen
Ill check once Its done hard resetting
lols that sounds like rest of display was active on second monitor..
Okay
horizontal split
Ok my view, was tinyified, and half of my actual able screen
She updated her nvidia drver and her Intel udh 630 drivers and the screen went wack on reset
But,there wqs half of another of the same screens below my screen
half screen.. yeah so monitor switched over to whatever other device you have plugged in and hz was scaled down and your prime being the one you was looking at possibly became to 2nd monitor and thus adopted values of prime monitor.
so reduced sceen size.. dpi and hz downgrade
Its hard resetting now so I hope that fixes it but
Ashs can you possibly take a photo with your phone or something of the problem?
I have one ill dm i
Alright
Dmed
can always rollback driver from device manager to advoid that happening again.. sounds more like you were using the intel chipset.. and yet when you upgraded to nvidia via software.. your nvidia chipset kicked in and overide the intel chipset
See but I updated both
Thats what i think
Lol

well i dont have a clue about pet lolis but technical.. i am
i can help with that but .. i dont want to know what is on ur mind. lol
Pet me instead I'm tall.. I hope tall and long legs gets a renaissance soon
^better not knowing she does not usually wera socks
well.. age also comes into question
Age doesnt exist change my mind
Old wine is better than new
Mind is changed thx
Pls dm me any advice anyone has to get it to scan the hdmi once I test the hdmi is functionallll
Let us hear what is going on when it's ready
Ok
im cold..
close hug
๐ฎ

your warm and fuzzy like a soft pillow that smells nice
It's never cold in my place..
Well im in england and im in the countryside we have a triple polar problem right now thanks to greenlands weather hiting us
-2 right now but dropping off preety quick
I'm going back to Spain the day after tomorrow... I miss my VR gear but I mostly miss my sun
The holidays are finally over
.. heh yeah well it cant stay sunny forever not even over there ๐
Well, it's 24โ right now over here. And my holidays are gonna end in another week.
24c is a lovely warm temp in england.. thats our summers..
Yea.. You can experience that all-year long in equatorial countries
last year itemp max was 35c was a record..
24c in england is when the roads start melting, the elderly die, the government issues a heatwave warning and the NHS goes into panic mode.
35c is basically the end times.
๐
never gets over 28c usually lol
pff your a lightweight gallium it wasnt that bad
Air conditioners
35C - Armageddon confirmed
35โ over here in the PH: It's a hot day today
Well now I finally have one installed at home summer is tolerable
when i lived in america i dealt with NW united states weather in 43c every summer for weeks on end and forrest fires that blocked out the sun for months on end.
But it's kinda unbearable for me, so I wanna live somewhere a little colder.
Nah, plus we own this house so we can do what we like with it.
It's never a dull moment with you, Omega
Yeah well thats what happens when you have multiple pesonalities.. most of which are sexually frustrated with one another.
things happen.
Yea..
My mic input only activates when I talk really loudly
I shouldn't have to talk so loud if I wanna speak to anyone
sounds like you need to adjust mic input sensetivity or up db from settings.
Try to download Audacity and record yourself to test your volume
Yeah, vrchat should pick up at least regular volume speech with the audio settings right
My mic sucks anyway, being attached to my headphones, I sound so low quality.
I have multiple microphones.. make sure your microphone thats being used is actually correct also
That too, due to a unity bug you can't change the mic device in vrchat, you need to make sure it's set correctly before starting vrchat.
There is also microphone boost which you can activate with varying results
headset microphone likes to change occasionly to my stereo webcam.. happens sometimes not always
Windows settings here i come
Gallium cant you just set the id of hardware device through an ini or something of the like?
Windows setting will have a mode to hear yourself for testing
so anyone having the pea soup void again?
that way you could bypass it
heat yourself for testing mmmm
Nope, Windows settings.
pea soup doesnt sound very pleasing.
Phone typing sucks
... your in bed?
Yep
Does anyone here know how i could control the intensity Value from an Emitting Shader through the microphone output volume?
Don't get any thoughts. I use Discord to relax only
Hmm Tec did you try the #avatars-2-general channel?
yes i did
i use discord to err.. relax as well ๐

How can one drown out the thoughts that are so rapidly overthinking certain processes.. it is a hard thing to not think into thinking about something when your thinking about it.
You have to let someone else suffer to clear your head
i dont want to be a cereal killer though
im preety well built not really fat or anything of the like.. sure they could bare the weight
I'm speaking of the weight of your thoughts
ah well.. my thoughts are dictated by my hormones.. and they define my character
so i cant really stop feeling like that.. lol
Don't ever stop feeling
Follow your feelings and if they give you pain, do your best to recover
If you hold back you will never feel at all
i get what you mean.. but i've already done as you describe once in life and have a failed marriage in the process
so nothing can really touch that experience lol
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that feel when youre the only person in a lobby that dont got a headset ๐ฆ
it wasnt me.. im the one that left her..
after accepting her into my life.. forgiving three times in a row..
You followed your feelings
basically all in all dont believe the bullshit you are fed thats my lifes lesson ๐
Yeah well mines abit different..
Don't follow anyones bullshit
Follow your feelings and try not to hurt anyone in the process, even though that is inevitable in the end
Well.. yeah i guess
i would say why it was different but what i have been born with actually triggers debaitable arguments in here
Again... The alternative is to shut down
even when its on paper .. have people with issues
People have issues
I have social issues. I am overly attached. It burns me a lot. But I keep trying because I hope someone will forgive me for acting crazy..
My alternative is to go into isolation
dont dothat..
Don't judge yourself for having issues. Just try to minimize impact while expanding your happiness
I won't ever. I love people (too much)
listen.. i came back from america after a 2 year bust of a marriage.. and i came back and now i repeat the same cycle of isolation every day of my life.. i have agoraphobia and klinefelters..
i am prone to sevre anxiety and.. i cant have children.
so your life could be worse trust me.
I know
I am happy with my life
I accept that I burn people but it still hurts me every time because I just want to be close and I don't know how
But I move on and try again
Well it takes.. a long time to build trust.. from my experience
i never did last time and i regret that
Trust is important... I wonder how long it takes to build with online strangers
my first time was my only time.. ive never been with anyone else so.. she was my first girl and that was my first marriage.. i was 5000 miles away from the uk.. i moved and married in america.. and the visa took me a year to complete.
its a long process..
How did you meet?
we met on a site online very popular called spiritualforums.. im more into paranormal field/scientific she is mainly religious.
Well i went there to not dismiss.. i went there because well she contacted me and .. it was unusual to say the least
well.. it depends i mean.. there are signs.. you need to watch out for like.. stalking etc..
Stalking?
basically.. i bought her a gift and she somehow logged into my account and bought me the same as i was notified over my phone about someone else logging in.. she saw what i bought logged out.. and got me the exact same then lied and told me that her angels (guides) told her to buy me this particular item.. which was the same thing i bought her..
and we was soul mates and meant to be.. lol
yeah.. i mean its my own fault but i felt sorry for her
So you wanted to be with her because you felt sorry?
nah.. i wanted to be with her to make her not feel alone
and to show her love she deserves just like everyone else
anyone playing atm?
Well.. she was my first and.. well hopefuly not last but with the way my lifes going always in unity and whatnot im lucky if i get to go anywhere nowadays lol
And I assume you're done with finding people online?
Sup
Hey Omega, how's it going lad? long time no see
No im not done.. its just.. :\ ive met people on vrchat but i guess i dont speak the language rather all this meme stuff i dont understand it at all
In my experience online is harder ... I'm always reading signals wrong
...
never have.. probably never will lol
Plenty of people don't understand and still go on
Stuck at 37%
VRChat on Twitch is honestly kind of a mess to look at
Nass u gonna be on sunday?
yeah.. i was born in 1983.. so im 35 now.. well coming 36 in july and i've been online helping and creating all my life..
our only saviour is jameskii
I'm traveling home on Sunday but maybe late
Bout this time in fact.. it's 00:30 now
I'm mostly online at night ...
Well.. i dont know you personally Nass.. you seem like a nice guy/girl though..
would like to speak to you in vrchat sometime
Thank you, you too
Well.. i wouldn't mind ๐
I might survive till then
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im not hardly ever in public though..
Ash is trying to get me killed
Are you two married?
Welp..
Just ascii cant really consider it spam.. not until bots turn up and then its spam ๐
She makes me stay up all night to work on models and then i have to drive on no sleep
Make a poring from ragnarok online that bloops as it moves.. and bounces using cloth or dynamic bones..
My kind of attention is .. equally demanding
big fat smiling jelly :3
๐
I'm high maintenance. I think you'll be better off in Ashs' slave camp
High maintenance?
I'm.. clingy
.. you sound nice to me honestly
Oof no sleep or no space hmmm
your personality.. is what wins you in this world.
Eek pillow chan is best chan
Thank you btw Omega
Marry me pillow chan
Who... Is that
My pillow
tes
I love pillows :3
Yes
a giant pillow map..
with pillow clouds everywhere..
and asmr sleepy time ๐ฎ
glistening stars :3
So u are a man of culture as well
I still want one of those asmr microphones
oh 3dio ? i have one ๐
Same
I need a go fund me for one
yeah we.. that was my intent at the time but.. im an english cockney and my voice is to deep for that so..
i fail miserably lol
but i've been using it for other means..
No I think all voices have a chance .. it's about practice
And you can do items and such
Doki does the scariest asmr
Well to be fair.. triggers are whispers i have a hard time even whispering haha
Its tru
Scariest?
Im too good
It was too real
other triggers like fingernails.. touching wet sounds.. ... yeah
HES CALLING ME RN
lmao
Wah
I cant i ran out of MnMs
nah i'm not gonna prostitute myself like that.. i know its a thing but.. im not really into that anymore
"Anymore"
when i was a teenager sure.. but i got older and have more respect for myself nowadays lol
these are the days when we used Dalnet servers and did things over mirc ๐
Now there's something I forgot how to deal with
Well.. self respect comes from that root thats always in you..
anyone wanna play together?
for me its my family and so i have them in me so i cant really change who or what i am not so much wild as i was im more humble
I think I lost it somewhere. Maybe it could help me.
For now I just run into the arms of strangers and tell them I love them
Pretty pathetic. But it makes me feel... Something
inside you.. you are still a kid no matter what age you get to and as for self respect..its still there. you just need to be treated right in order to be your true self.. just my opinion though..
Talk about a lack of self respect huh
Yeah maybe
I think people treat me right
I just don't know how to behave
Well.. people who treat you because of who you are not fame wise.. that is what i mean
i cant stand the fame .. when i do certain things i literally go off the radar because i dont want to hear praise
to me its annoying and its more a suck up rather than admiration.
Id want fame bc I want people to like me
I don't know anything about fame. I think it's more like if someone reaches out a hand of love or touch, I will grab the hand and consume the entire person instead of just holding their hand
people will like you based on your personality when you are your true self..
I must be shitty then
you dont need to fake anything to be like anyone.. to get their approval..
It's more than just that. It's also about restraint and self control
well i have that for sure.. but if you dont.. then your not clingy as such.. your needy because you feel like you said your happy but your not really you seem to be incomplete without the running up and cuddling..
i know of someone who is like this in rl who streams..
shes a nice girl.. ive known her a while..
shes married.. but isnt treated right.. or at all so she escapes into vrchat.
Well you've described me well
I am needy and I don't like being it
But I can't stop
Im needy bc lolis are cute
I want to be held and loved
well.. its because you feel alone.. and i do too everyone does to a point.. isolation is really no good for mental health
i know only to well how that game works.
I live in a village that was built in the 1100's i have farmland as far as the eye can see im in a beautiful village.. but its isolated..
and so i kinda just stay in and do this and create things to sorta waste my lil time i may have on this lil rock we live on.
I am happy though. I just feel like someone who hasn't eaten for years and every time someone offers me a hand it's s 5 course meal that I devour without thought of the person behind the hand
but i do so because it makes others happy and so it makes me happy as a result
Hmm so you live isolated
Maybe #general-media ?
yeah. i grew up in london.. but moved out here in 2012, sicne then well its been the same routine day in day out
dammit buzz killington
Oh.. sure thing Ruubick
lol.. alright
Is it me or is the murder map gone?

Is anyone else having the problem of not being able to favorite friends?
Did Jar take it down or something?
The murder map was playable earlier I streamed it today
I can see the map in the public world verification queue, it should be back once it's been verified.
So I saw that I need to merge my steam account with a VR chat account in order to use the SDK and upload stuff, but in my settings menu on the steam account I don't see an upgrade or merge button?
I'm not sure where to find that token D:
that feeling when you arent allowed to login
Did you input your username and password correctly?
unauthorized?
oh
user not found
did you change your name?
you need to login with your user name, not display name
can oculus do full body tracking when you have a third sensor on the floor to detect feet?
erm
no
the sensors are for IR constellation tracking
oculus does not (yet) provide a FBT solution
that sucks, oh well kinect it is I guess
that makes no sense tho
im surprised there is no RealSense implementation yet
u can do a hybrid setup like fpaul said
is the nolo sensor compatible with the oculus app? or do I need steam for that?"
i heard that oculus does support a third one
yea they do
as a hip tracker 
๐ฎ you mean I can legit twerk?
u could buy multiple controllers if u rlly wanted
#dreamsdocometrue
native or with special driver.
cuz i think vrchat reads all controllers and trackers as trackers
so when u do full body setup it should map them by closest distance
ah ok
im asking cus if its from oculus site it might work form the oculus release
without steam vr shenanigans
that would interest me
but honestly ud be better off with like
I just ordered a third oculus tracker, for better tracking in general, that's why I was asking
vive trackers and vive sensor
or Nolo VR
but I'll save up and grab one of those nolo trackers
nolo more like yolo

I just got some stands to lift my sensors up, and a stand to rest my controllers on, now I'm waiting on one to rest my mask on, but I'd like to do full body tracking as well
i don't use kinect tho bc its awful for small rooms
Do oculus sensors use camera mounts like vive?
kinect doesnt get better with big rooms @stone current
its ok most of the time but my tracking is buggy and the feet and stuff keep spazzing out
@rigid crescent you need to have an adapter, but essentially, yes
Kinect is slightly more useable if you have a larger room, as it seems to essentially have a 1 meter deadzone close up, making it very difficult to use in smaller rooms
it should bc like my room has bad lighting and my playspace is only about 3 ft in each direction
Used it briefly before I got trackers
you unscrew the base and can screw it onto a camera mount of any kind
no need to a adapter.
idk how to fix all the spazzing
hmmm alrighty then
thats just the kinect @stone current 
I don't think Kinect tracking will ever really be properly stable, you could ask around in #full-body-tracking if anyone has some more experience with the thing, but most people I know just switch to Trackers after a while.
kinect is just old and not really up to the job
one or 360
i really want RealSense implementation

its kinda funny bc like
they show demos of kinect
where theres like clothing rendered on top of real people
and im sitting here with my feet flying across the map
would I be able to use an extra set of oculus touch controllers attached to my feet for full body tracking?
idk y u would do that tho
-_- that's useless lol
well
come on oculus, get your game together!!!
it ads something
I already like vive's sensors better than oculus'
is it just me or is the "favoriting friends" not working
but I don't have any ๐ฆ
then use vive sensors
xd
some people have mixed setups
vive trackers and oculus headset/controllers
I don't know why oculus didn't start out with wireless sensors to begin with
vive is seemingly best at tracking atm but its also one of the worst for support and experience/unboxing apparently
heh I straight up sat on one of my oculus touch controllers, and snapped the thumb control. I was MORTIFIED, but was able to super glue it back together, and it works fine
I sat down in a chair, and they were in the chair....that's how

because I was taking them off to adjust my headset, and then put them back on but had forgotten I put them in the chair to begin with
i just put everything on my bed and then grab them one by one lol
which is why now I have a stand for my controllers. no more sitting on them ever
*drops controller off stand*
I'm just glad the controller still works

hi everyone
hi everyone, my oculus rift comes on sunday and im looking for people to hang out with come then in vr chat so hit me up in the dms if ur someone to hangs out a lot on there looking for new peeps 
me
...
At the moment Oculus are more focused on "mobile" VR than full body I think ?
While HTC seems to like to make products for public demonstration purposes.
well no one knows much about future products of oculus they had a full body solution based on cameras and with multiple view positions that can work really well
basically sensor 2.0 i guess
I wonder how they would estimate the distances using cameras. Maybe some sort of triangulation ?
Yeah, it uses IR I think
except that this has multiple viewports
PLUS the HMD / controller data
as the system would obviously work together
Anything would work better than the Kinect. ๐
One thing the Kinect V2 had okay was the mic I think. It could hear pretty much too much stuff, like people in other rooms.
who the hell would use the kinects mic when they have a HMD on their head 
Nobody. But the mic just seems good. But useless yeah.
@ruby needle The wands actually handle sitting and ect nice
They just break fast once they get used as a hammer... What happens a fair bit with them...
They arent badly made, just cant stand hard blunt force...
well, and their trackpads arent the most durable even if the new movement sheme some what solved the early issues 
True but most games dont overuse them like VRchat did
what are you guys talking about?
vive controllers

Eh, no use ranting for no reason
Oculus Quest's controllers, and knuckle controllers. seem to have both analog sticks and mini-tracpads, so at least some kind of feature parity can get going
knuckles more interesting tho
cuz full analog finger detection
and pressure and no need hold
but yee
Is it me or is vrchat extremely slpow today?
*slow
Because it seems like it only slows down in vr or outright stops working and this issue just started up when I tried using full body tracking.
By "slow", do you mean like low framerate (it lags visually) or network lag ?
If anyone else would report connectivity issue, that could be server hiccups. We'll see.
Thank you
I flex my 99 gang boss avatar harder than a youtuber with yeezies
Lots of reports everyday of the favorite system not working or being laggy. I guess it's just broken most of the time.
when the world starts giving u 8 fps for no reason and its almost impossible 2 use the menu
and no its just really really slow
Maybe some super duper unoptimized avatar spawned in ?
if u favorited something expect it in a few hrs
at least 4 now
yea its kinda like avatars used 2 be
slow and took a while
not rlly
if thats the case everything would be slow
not just favoriting
its just not implemented correctly and the vrchat team should be working on it atm
all those slots are worth the initial lag to me. we are explorers kinda
i'm still stuck in the pea soup void thank you very much~
yeah, this is bull.
CAN THEY FIX THE LOOPING LOADING SCREEN ALREADY!
It's been 2 Months and they still haven't fixed It.
Part of the problem I think is: That looping seems to occur exactly when the servers are having hiccups.
well than its every time I try to log on.
You did attempt the regular recommended fix of re-entering your login infos by writing them in notepad and copy-pasting them in the VRChat login screen right ?
yes.
k, this is getting on my nerves. I am unable to get anywhere anymore. I came on this game to interact with people.
@glossy wharf I corrupted intel while trying to get oculus to work
What you just said makes no sense
Its really funny but sad, my friend tyler is helping me with it though. Lucky he knows how to fix it
What do you mean you corrupted intel
The intel.graphics
You guys know if Rebuff VR works with oculus?
rebuff are tracker straps
I tried updating the drivers and clearly I did a bad job at itttttt
for the vive
But not oculus?
dude oculus has no trackers
You can use them for the oculus
yea but theres no thing as oculus trackers atm other than again the hip thing
They are made for the vive trackers, the trackers can be made to work with oculus.
^
Well obviously oculus doesn't have it, I'm asking if the oculus app on Windows would recognize then anyway
no
The oculus home doesnt
u would need vive lighthouses most likely
Would steam recognize it?
cuz theyre different sensors
yea but like u need sensors to detect where trackers are
If you have a lighthouse sensor yes
I'm p sure oculus sensors != vive sensor compatibility
Bah humbug
I'm just verifying
For the mixed setup you need oculus + sensors, vive trackers and one or preferably two base stations
yea
And also a lot of patience
Gotcha, ok
i hate not having a vr headset because then vrchat is just chat for me and it takes away some of the fun
its not rlly just chat but
then save for vr then
also having a headset doesnt rlly make it that much better
having controllers and a headset does
This hobby is expensive AF
Vrchat is just as fun without vr
almost
if u have full body or controller and headset its more immersive and more addictive
Debatable
but then again full body tracking is only used in a handful of games
Fbt made me turn back into a desktop user for a month
so if u do get it then u rlly do have motive for vrchay
Still feels very immersive without vr to me
yea but its a whole different perspective
I still find fbt to be tedious
ur not looking at a screen anymore
I mean you kinda are
yea its annoying 2 set up but once u get going its nice
yea but ur actually in the world
and u can interact with ur limbs rather than mouse and keyboard
ur experiencing more of it
Yeah but you lose the ability to do lots of other things
like what spam spacebar
I want my tts users back dude
I miss having tts people around
Tts is fucking hilarious
well a lot of them have a mic but dont want 2 use it ig
Obviously
ik its a preference thing but y type in a dif window when u can just press v and say something
They messed up audio input switching. That made it easier
@stone current kinda a stupid question
I just hope oculus is working on being to fruition full body tracking soon. A lot of people want it, but only a few companies have hardware to support it...as shown by this conversation
Can ask it the other way too, why press v and say it if you can just type it out
theyre focusing a lot more on getting wireless headsets and catching up
pressing V and saying something sort of defeats the purpose of being a mute or a TTS in VRC tho.
^
and also a headset that doesnt need any other external app like a computer
yea but whats the gain of beign a mute
Wireless would be nice, but I spent a LOT on the headset I have now and have no interest in buying another
Jsut hope your English is understandable. ๐
The oculus go and quest are both shit
atm i think the only wireless theyre making is the quest but its also a standalone
They wont be able to sustain most games let alone vrchat
Vrchat is way too cpu intensive
how bad we talking
I don't understand what the oculus quest is supposed to do better than the oculus go and the other 10 low budget mobile headsets out there
not unless they can shove like an i7 in there
I hear tpcast with they opentpcast firmware makes wireless available
Tpcast is trash
and oculust quest is oculus go + the inside of a phone
The only wirelss vr solution that works atm is the vive wireless Adapter and even that is flawed and overpriced
Even with the public firmware?
So basically it's a cardboard that comes with a crappy android phone
@pastel thistlepeople literally recorded themselves smashing their tpcast when the vive wireless was announced because of how bad it is
no its like builtin
O.o
Superglued together
The tpcast adapter is horrible
its still an oculus headset but all the stuff that is needed to make it run things is inside
Theres a reason it has mostly bad Reviews
@stone current its a cardboard with a hotglued phone
But that sounds the same as a samsung gear+s9 combo or daydream+pixel
More and more I feel like I should switch to vive, but I can't afford that shit and those controllers are garbage
Or does it add positional tracking at least
I'm hoping oculus gets their crap together
vive has a lot of poor reputation
@pastel thistle keep oculus, get two base stations and trackers
Base stations?
The vive basestations
Oh
I hear a lot of good things about those
aka that
You dont need a charging Station
you don't have to buy all of them at once
True
a lot of people complain about worse experience and broken items
One thing I didn't consider about lighthouses: They make noises. So I must unplug them to sleep.
so yea id prob just recommend getting that for cheap
I sure wish the virtuix omni was still for sale
they make noise wat
Obviously they do
also no it sounds like a good idea but its probably not
Theres engines inside.
They spin at super fast speed.
u have 2 strap into that thing and walk around for hours
its cramped and it makes u exaughsted
I have a medium play space at best
i would recommend more like an omnitreadmill with no wires but we arent that far into the future
It's more so that they're just too expensive
yea but ive tried one of those things before
straps almost gave me rashes and it was a poor experience
Just get a 1.5x1.5m playspace and walk in circles
yea
Get a giant hamster ball ๐ค
some people had basically an entire workout room set up for vr
It works really well. Been playing that way for the last 2-3 weeks, trying to use movement controls as rarely as possible
I wish I had that space
imo it sounds like a waste
like its cool in all but that is so much room
so unless u live by urself ur rlly wasting space
If you live in VR, it's not waste. ๐
lol
I use my bedroom, bed on the side, got the tinest cheap desk from ikea with particle board and wheels, that fits in a closet, put my computer monitor and keyboard on it
just get a job in second life then go to VR
Whan you have a property so large you have a farm in it... No hurt in building a dedicated VR shed
That's why I'd prefer something like the virtuix omni. Not much space needed
The rest of the bedroom is rectangular and empty
yea but still its very uncomfortable
my friend had it bc theyre like loaded and got a dozen different vr crap
but they said they might sell it soon bc they cant use it for more than like half an hour
na theyre selling it locally and idk where but probably for 2/3 the price
so ud have 2 fly/drive there if u wanted it and bring it back
Where are they located?
they moved recently and ive tried it a few years back
but ive lost contact with them bc idk he won't text me anymore
Ah oh well then
Where I live, you could sell a used VR headset on Ebay for more than the price of a new headset in store. ๐ถ
yea but who gonna buy it
I bought my vr set used
just put "I'm a loser" sticker on it and maybe
Rich folks. VR headsets are always out of stock.
I havent had an issue with either of my vr sets when i bought em
I bought it from a military guy who just got new orders to a ship and couldn't take it with him
^^^
someone got their trackers all wet bc the window was open and it started rainig
Smh
how does rainwater get in someone's window?
wind
Wind?
Poor isolation
^
that makes sense..
they didnt even have the little sheet thing
Nini Mama Sai
get a dogger
Cya all
Good morning Sai

I have my vr setup in my living room. I'm married and we're about to have our first baby, so I'm sure vr usage is gonna go down
helllo
unless ur baby plays vr
VR Baby.
That'll be hilarious
i mean ive seen 7 y/o in vrchat so
I'm soI do it
i wouldn't expect anything different
I'm so gonna do it**
reminds me of that video of the roblox gf
VRC baby
If the Microsoft hololense were cheaper I'd consider getting that too
@stone current to get all the vive ewuipment I need for full body tracking with the oculus headset, how but would I need to drop on that?
wym
Well I need to get the hackers and the sensors, right?
Right, so about how much would that cost me?
In USD, you need 3 trackers at 99$ each, and 2 lighthouses at 135 $ each
or u can buy it off vive which is guaranteed but really expensive
JFC
but again u can buy things separately
just put it all on credit every month or something and try it when u get the full kit
If you buy the Vive, you won't need to buy the lighthouses. Just the 3 trackers.
Fun. Gonna have to wait for a bit
^
but then again now u got a vive
so yea its just 2 different ways
i would recommend looking for alternatives
as long as u don't accidentally scam urself
I might as well get a vive headset if I'm getting all that other stuff
i know people in vrchat who got their trackers off craigslist
for a lot cheaper but idk how much
Got to be careful to not buy version 1.0 of the trackers too
Those have interference issues
Heh
and also if u do get a vive headset and wand
u should probably sell the oculus bc like idk y u would have both
but it still would be cheaper to just not get the headset and controllers
I'll just forget about full body tracking
$500 is headset 2 controllers and 2 stations
It's too much money for not much reward
take out 2 stations and its probably around $300
or u can just add all the trackers to the $500
I'll stick with the kinect, it's cheaper. Not ideal, but way cheaper
Cost an arm. But that feeling of immersion. It's like the "I am human, I have legs too" package.
I mean the Vive stuff
the kinect is pretty cheap yea but it shows
i have the latest kinect bc i used 2 use it for xbox 1
but i cant get ideal tracking
so yea just do what u want
Microsoft would be very smart if they made a new kinect with vr full body tracking in mind
Yeah
since xb360 kinect
I'll just get that and call it a day
but theyre trying to push updates and stuff 2 make it more accurate and trying 2 market it 2 be used in companies
Kinect can only track what it sees in front of it. This technology is just not adapted for 360 full body tracking.
Anyway, I gotta go to bed, catch you guys later
Later
@acoustic ravine you can always have more than one ;)
and yea unless ur completely naked or something i don't think trackings gonna be any better
cuz wrinkles and sagging and colors etc confuses it a bit
from clothing
You can't use more than one Kinect sensor I think.
yea
One sensor already sucks so much processing power anyway,
u just use the kinect2vr driver or whatever
and it will basically use the data from kinect and create these fake trackers
if u use multiple kinects i think it would just pick one of them
There's also the PS Move wands that are supported I think right ?
Nah I mean Kinect2VR or Driver4VR on PC. One of them can track PS Move wands I think.
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but don't u need sensors for it or something
probably driver4vr also bc kinect2vr is the free alternative
You do need PS camera for it though
There's also the nolo option. Let's not forget that ^^
Since the PS wands are light-based..
to just strap those long controllers 2 ur leg
Oh yeah, the nolo. Cheaper than Vive right ?
Yeah. About $200 for everything
Oh that's almost worth it then
It works similarly. A base station that emits ir beam and the trackers sense that
You do it through steamvr, yeah
but it doesnt have anything to do with oculus
as said in the sentence it has its own base stations
its separate but other programs and apps can sense it
Ok
It works with driver4vr as well
u probably need a driver for it also
otherwise its not gonna be detected or adapted probably
Maybe I should have considered the nolo before throwing my wallet at HTC.
well isnt vive also a steam thing
Vive tracker is still better.
basically everyones throwing their wallets at steam/valve nowadays
very greedy fuckers lol
lol
The nolo only has one base station, so it is mostly front facing. But it's much more accurate than kinect and has full rotation sensing
Ah okay.
yea
Like an in between
its in between
weeee we are on a quest to find tide pod chan avatar
Seems like steam is the best platform for vr
well
steam is trying to be the best gaming platform in general
discords trying to catch on as well
for whatever reason
i have oculus rift, work with steamvr too.
Ditto
yea no practically everything is supported
discord is pooky dooky for trying to make games
even steering wheels and gas pedals
I just wish games I bought on oculus home worked in steam too
everbody games!
i think they also have binds to match up steering to joystick input
never tried it before
and they should work
steering wheels and gas pedals... Now I'm imagining racing games but with no brakes
just add it as a shortcut
Think I'm gonna make the switch from oculus home to steam
tesla regenerative brakes

also vrchat was thrown onto oculus home bc of complaints
and also minorly bc it was easier 2 access
What kinda complaints?
Gay complaints
Oh.. those kinds
but the pros are:
get to use special drivers and tools like playspace mover and kinect
I wish my audio worked on oculus version
with full body trackig idk if oculus home version can sense them
Isn't there some software called locomote or something like that where you can simulate walking in game? Instead of using hand controls
I got to say: The installation of the Vive trackers and stations was relatively painless. They just... didn't include mounting things so I had to DIY the thing.
Natural locomotion?
yea its on the steam store
Yeah that
@pastel thistle there is natural locomotion but it's not so fun imho
wasted money ig
I think I used it once and didn't like it
i don't see what advantages it gives u
Yeah, I used it. It's neat, but kinda a gimmick
It's maybe better than just directional touchpad movement all the time if you can't do roomscale
I mean it'd be nice if you have a platform like virtuix omni to use
Then it'd work fine
If you have roomscale highly recommend looking into using only rotational controls and doing all walking in your room
Pulling info from some VR treadmill videos and gifs I seen, it woulda required a pretty large space
You have to walk 1 meter for every meter yes but's immersive
Well, that's on another topic
You can decide some worlds are too big but like walking around a small room it's nice
And I imagine you would bump into walls all the time
Because of how open-spaced Tamriel is
Like I said, viruix omni-like platform
Ya mine is 2.5x2.3 meter. I think will work 1.5x1.5 or greater but 2x2 is better
Keep chaperone high brightness on all the time in advanced mode. You have to learn to see the slice of the world you are in based on the chaperone and you move to position the caperone in the in game world
I remember hearing that the omni has a problem with immersion though, because even though you are walking, you feel that your sliding on a dome, and it just feels wrong
yea no its terribly uncomfortable and exaughsting
Skyrim would fail with this. I would seriously get tired and give up
a lot of people who get it don't want to use it
That day when the holodeck becomes a physical reality
its like sitting in a baby cart as an adult
If only VR becomes mainstream..
and walking on ice
Vr is doing alright for what it is and the price point
By the way, I heard about EU being a big customer of VR and AR equipment
consumer?
Goes both ways..
You just wait, the EU will find a way to legislate vr too and screw it up also
Yea let's not get to that right now
Lol
someone told me if they get a quest first thing theyre gonna do is walk around their entire neighborhood
with their girlfriend guiding them to not get ran over
Ok, but why tho
bc he just wanted to
i have absolutely no idea
i asked him and he said cuz he can excersize and have fun at the same time
but i don't think thats an actual answer
But hw would a machine like the Quest function in high-temperature, high-brightness environment like the outside?
Probably doing it for the novelty of walking around everywhere in VR
probably the same as a mobile phone
its literally just a phones guts inside a headset
then they take it off and sun hits the lenses
rip
It's not something you can fit in your pocket, mind you.. and it's going to be constantly exposed to the outside elements
yea but like
ur phone gets hot playing fortnite

but i havent heard anything bad about
just dip in water if it gets too hot... 
The go is white. Reflects the sun 
like u can use it inside but the point is also so u can use it "anywhere"
not good enough... should be chrome
as long as u have ur phone with u
That's one way to reduce heat absorption, but what about system damage due to high-intensity IR and UV rays?
bleached plastic
what might cause problems tho
Is leaving the quest with its lenses facing the sun
might burn some of the stuff inside of it
also might cause a fire I'm unsure
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ok i have a question
ok, I have the answer
Yes? 
someone told me they were wanking off a while ago while on vrchat and it actually looked like it lol
reportable or no
Yeah
Lol

ik
Meh, I've seen worse
That don't seem too safe now, is it? 












