vrchat-general-2

[vocal shard]

Usb 3.0 and i got a pretty beefy rig

[regal quail]

Its more of a power thing, some setups simply don't have the power to transmit that far. You'll need a HDMI repeater, a converter to DVI, or active/powered cables rather than passive ones

[vocal shard]

Are the cables passive or active though?

Im guessi they are active

Not sure on that though

[quiet river]

@vocal shard do they have a green light on them?

[vocal shard]

Active usually has a bigger part on one end like this https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71bf2p-iqPL._SX425_.jpg

I dont think they are active then lol

[quiet river]

If no green light it's not active

[vocal shard]

Ye no greenlight.. so thats the prblem then?

[quiet river]

Yes you need a greenlight

[vocal shard]

Passive loses power by the time it reaches the end over that length of cable. Active is like a single usb hub and keeps the power

Hmmm would the signal go right through if i plugged an active into the passive?

[quiet river]

No it would still lose power at the end of the passive

You need an active

No passive

[vocal shard]

Okeuly dokey so thats why it works with 1 extender but not 2 en

[quiet river]

If you want to save some money you can make your own active

[vocal shard]

Wait how to you do that?

[quiet river]

Buy some 24awg copper wire and wrap it around the passive cable

It will induce a magnetic field that carry the signal all the way through

[vocal shard]

The wires are covered with an insulator thogh. So id have to remove that first right?

[quiet river]

No

[vocal shard]

Ahh ok i moght have to look ibto that then. Thanks for the help frank!

[shell osprey]

Was installing Unity 2017.4.15f1 and it say there was an error installing VisualStudio..

help pls

[umbral reef]

Try reinstalling it all again

[shell osprey]

this is my 3rd time oof

[umbral reef]

Can also try to install visual studio manually

[vast tulip]

Install visual studio, yeah, or update it maybe

[shell osprey]

I'll try to skip it for now then come back to it later

Do you not have to select the files and stuff you want with it though? If i don't choose the ones the Unity needs then it will be an even bigger oof

nvm it was just an update for some reason it wasn't upgrading when Unity tried to update it

[quiet river]

@vocal shard can you send me a picture of how you have ran your cables currently in dms?

[vocal shard]

I kinda unwired em and put it back to a front sensor setup sorry xD

[quiet river]

Ok

[vocal shard]

Will definetly take your advice with either the active extenders or adding copper wire so thank you for the help! I would nevee have figured out the problem by myself

[mossy canyon]

Im gona say the n word

Nihilism

[opaque hawk]

I don’t like that one. You do matter

[mossy canyon]

But in nihilism

It is the contrary

[mighty dew]

Nihilism 😮

HEATHEN

My All-American values override everything nihilistic

[vocal shard]

Glory to the Soviet Union !... wait, it got dissolved 27 years ago.

I created a VRchat account through Steam a few days ago, but my avatars and friends haven't synced yet in game.

However, when I log into the website, I can see my old friends. What should I do.

My friends I add also keep disappearing.

[rotund pike]

link your steam with vrchat account

[languid beacon]

@vocal shard wait it out for the devs to come back, then send a support email to [e-mail]

It shouldn’t take more than a day to sync

[vocal shard]

I hope it's not because I refavoritted my avatar

@rotund pike that's exactly what I did

wheres the new vrcsdk

[rigid crescent]

vrchat.com

[lavish hill]

Is there any form of text chat? Right now ive been using markers in custom rooms to talk but it takes a lot of effort

[rigid crescent]

nope

gotta use mic or markers. there's avatars with markers built in if you ahve vr

[lavish hill]

Rip

[umbral reef]

Uuuu no.. If you want to type use TTS or just use discord instead

[lavish hill]

Do you type it on your computer?

Do you mind if i add you on discord?

Id like to know how to set it up

Oh ok but how do you make vrchat use the virtual cable?

I havent seen a place to change inputs

Anyways im sure i can figure it out from there i appreciate your help and bringing tts up

[rich bridge]

anyone in game rn?

[languid beacon]

There is TTS so you can type and have it speak. If you do not want to type you can also get a STT program to feed text into a TTS program, but you’ll need a microphone.

You can solve that with another TTS program

[gusty halo]

hey guys, how long do i have to play the game for to be able to upload custom avatars to use?

[elfin badge]

around 7-ish hours

[rich bridge]

0.12 seconds

[elfin badge]

o

[gusty halo]

so just socialize for a while and i can get my trust up?

[rich bridge]

whats your in game name? i'll show you a good place for avatars

[gusty halo]

thatbadgr

im not on right now, but i could hop on in a few

[rich bridge]

ok. i'll meet you in the hub. look for an agumon

[languid beacon]

Make friends, explore worlds, don’t get blocked/kicked or any thing that would make the system think you are bothering people

[lapis nebula]

I don’t take much notice of the trust system as regards a persons status, considering I’ve used VRChat for 3 years, made plenty of friends, I’ve just not made any worlds, yet

But that’s set to change this new year

[rich bridge]

@gusty halo once your in the hub, tell me the room number

[gusty halo]

ok

#34638

[rich bridge]

ok. my game is not loading properly, so give me a sec

[gusty halo]

alright

[languid beacon]

I turn on all features for all ranks... even shaders. Except only friends can use audio sound effects >{

[torn nebula]

I wish I could turn off audio sound effects and particles for my own avatar (that is, stop everyone from seeing them), there's a lot of avatars that I'd want to use if only they weren't so obnoxious

[vocal shard]

or animations

[dense shuttle]

I unfriended someone because they bugged out of my friend list for some reason and I cannot friend them back anymore

[vocal shard]

Oof

[dense shuttle]

But like , it was bugged when they were in my friend list to begin with , they wouldn't appear even when online and I could never join or invite them despite us being labelled friends

[umbral oracle]

I think their database has cache/ synchronization issues so events may take time to propagate.

Just try again later and it might let you

Ya fav lists (avatar, world) disappearing is a common thing this week. For me is will come back later if it disappears

[dense shuttle]

I dunno the friend bug already went on for two days

[umbral reef]

Try adding him from the website

[umbral oracle]

^ and ask them to add you back if you can find them on discord or ingame

[vocal shard]

HI EVERYONE.

WAKEY WAKEY. (xD)

[dark narwhal]

IM AWAKE

[vocal shard]

hi awake nice to meet u too. xD

[dark narwhal]

Reeeeeeeeeee

[vocal shard]

peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[dark narwhal]

I actually just woke up

[vocal shard]

lOl good.

OMFG

TODAY IS NEW YEARS EVE

[stoic halo]

december 30th

[vocal shard]

No.

For me/my country it's 31st today

[dark narwhal]

Australia?

[vocal shard]

I'm UK - Current time is: 00:08 AM

[ruby needle]

#general-media please and less spammy 😃

[vocal shard]

nah i'm good

L0L.

[delicate stump]

as you get older, a year seems like a month

[queen mango]

You don't wanna end up like the last user who spammed the chat with only "hm" or "xd"

[delicate stump]

[queen mango]

Btw.. it's 8:12 AM, and it's December 31 over here

[vocal shard]

Alie

Over in the UK it's 00:08 AM - 31ST

[stoic halo]

nice, a crasher in the pug with full global screen effects too

randomly shot me lol.

[umbral reef]

Make sure to report the dude

[stoic halo]

bro i dont even know his name

i saw him for a short moment then he blasted me

[ruby needle]

when you got crashed get your output log

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[ruby needle]

do not restart the game before grabbing that

then send a report

#moderation-reports

[stoic halo]

will it have their name or smth in it?

[rapid dune]

I hate obnoxious global screen effect users, but my computer doesn't crash so it just.. my screen is filled with music and memes.

[stoic halo]

cause i dont know his name

[torn nebula]

it'll have internal user IDs

and avatar IDs I believe

[stoic halo]

welp looks like i already got his name

log marked his name

[umbral reef]

Gotta send it all to them though and stuff

[stoic halo]

this reminds me to install radeon relive

it was kinda funny how long it took for the beam to crash me

i stood in it for like a solid 4 seconds before my game locked up

[rigid crescent]

yeah some gotta hit you just right

[tacit plank]

Is the local particle filter still functional? Can anyone link it? The channel seems to be deleted

[zinc solar]

[vocal shard]

I just made a VR Stripclub lol

[zinc solar]

Who hasn't?

Most of them are private worlds though

[rigid crescent]

lol no they're not, there's so many public worlds with poles

[dense shuttle]

I'm online and yet it says I'm not on the website , I've refreshed several times

[tacit plank]

Many with poles, yeah, but they're not that lewd

Well, you can make them lewd, but it takes imagination.
That night club with the torture cell in the basement can be a BDSM thing if you want it to, but technically the area is not lewd, so it's allowed

[rigid crescent]

oh the goth one?

that place is so dark

[dark narwhal]

👀

[rigid crescent]

somehow there's no videos on my buddy poledancing in VR on youtube, shame

[tacit plank]

I make worlds too, but I'm too lazy to put in any effort. They end up being mostly empty

I lack ideas

[zinc solar]

I meant, stripper worlds. Worlds that actually focus on a strip club setting

[rigid crescent]

...So a pole, a stage, and music

Lots of those worlds exist.

[vocal shard]

sounds like a nightmare of evil

[dark narwhal]

You know what they say...one mans nightmare is another mans dream...

[vocal shard]

in my world if that was the case you be sent on the crazy space ship to the planet thats a world wide sized high security prison

[dark narwhal]

Ohhhh I like space

[vocal shard]

But prison nope

[dark narwhal]

Whats wrong with prison its like a never ending sleep over???

[vocal shard]

With men looking to cuddle? Nope

lmao

[dark narwhal]

I like to cuddle

[modern sand]

#general-media please

[vocal shard]

Oof

[dark narwhal]

Yes Commander

[rotund pike]

Lmao

[stoic halo]

peopel block you for anything

i said i dont likw breath of the wild, someone blocks me

[rigid crescent]

lol they probably did it as a joke. not saying they're gonna undo it, but tbh that's a pretty funny punchline

[weak coyote]

Does anyone know the name of the model that's been circulating? The one with really long white hair and is unoptimized?

[inner cape]

why do you need it?

[torn nebula]

how unoptimized are we talking about here?

[hasty wedge]

that model is gonna give me alcohol poison

[inner cape]

bout 2k collision checks

[hasty wedge]

by the amount of times i need to each time it appears

[inner cape]

^

[weak coyote]

@inner cape Want to see if I can edit and optimize it for a friend.

[inner cape]

well, I can only meme about how unoriginal those are
I do not know where to find one

[weak coyote]

That's fine. I dislike it, too. But that's why I wanted to edit it. Lmao.

[supple bison]

@covert chasm Did they ever explain why the mic has to be set as default now instead of being able to switch between mics?

[dark narwhal]

oof pls dont ping the admins

[velvet quarry]

23. Do not ping Admins or VRChat Team for non-emergency reasons or you may be kicked from the server

[queen mango]

I don't think you can ping the admins for that

[dark narwhal]

only ping admins if u need to buy lounge pants

[queen mango]

[umbral oracle]

@supple bison Yes they did explain it was due to a bug related to the new unity update, and they are going to work on fixing it.

[velvet quarry]

I believe it's something that Unity themselves have to fix, the Unity team is aware and is working on a fix, once that's done VRChat will update it.

[inner cape]

[vocal shard]

[zinc solar]

I really hate the new Unity, and SDK

[inner cape]

why?

[zinc solar]

I have been having way to many problems with it. Forced to make a new unity, and now I lost so many assets, and it's impossible to make the avatars how I usually make them because every texture I use has its settings messed up.

[inner cape]

[zinc solar]

Paradox/Unlit use to be a shader I commonly use, but now the settings are completely different from its original, I'm unable to bring back my special effects pack, and dynamic bones never show up

[sick sierra]

I’ve just added friends, they accepted, my vrchat crashed and now I’ve lost them oh no

Don’t show up in social :(

[vocal shard]

You need to update assets like dynamic bones ....

[tacit plank]

Look for their names in the output log

Then add them manually on the website, if they're not already tagged as a friend

[zinc solar]

Its been 6 days, and I've been unable to upload any avatars. I lost way too much work because I made the stupid choice of updating the SDK.

Honestly no matter how I try to work with it, all my assests, shaders, and models are ruined because of the New Unity I was forced to download to use this new SDK

[vocal shard]

You would have had to update the sdk anyway...

[zinc solar]

Everything was working fine, and avatars uploaded fine before I updated

The SDK would have been great, but I don't see a reason why we needed to update the Unity.

[cedar abyss]

You can't upload avatars anymore? Why?

[inner cape]

um

[vocal shard]

There were plenty of reasons.

[torn nebula]

it's because vrchat now runs using a newer version of unity and the only reason older assets work is because of some heroics they did to get them to load, and some stuff is broken even then

[zinc solar]

Every time I exit Unity I get the "Clear Player cache, and prefabs"

I made a new unity, and I still get this error

[inner cape]

you know the game itself went to a new unity, not just the unity you use to upload avatars
2017 brought so much new stuff and improved old things, and you ask why

[zinc solar]

Pisses me off because it has been happening for 6 days, I cannot finish any of my commisions because most of my shaders are broken,

[vocal shard]

They were running vrchat on an already outdated unity version that was loosing support. They needed to update to the long term support version so they could continue to get support to keep the game running

[zinc solar]

Just going to have to close commissions and cancel all requests until I figure out how to fix this.
Need to find some way to downgrade back to old unity, and SDK.

[cedar abyss]

Check the errors in the console then, if only one script somewhere is broken unity disables the ones from the sdk too thats why theres only the "clear player cache ect." line

[zinc solar]

Did that, already.

I'm just going back to old SDK, and unity

[inner cape]

you can't downgrade

[cedar abyss]

^ this

[zinc solar]

I still have the SDK, and unity download. Just going to uninstall

[inner cape]

you can't upload stuff from 5.6 to 2017

it's just gonna be broken

[zinc solar]

Worked fine before

[cedar abyss]

Better idea... just troubleshot like everyone else did

[zinc solar]

Only updated to Unity to try the chair thing, but it just broke everything

[torn nebula]

out of curiosity - when people do avatar commissions, do they usually deliver unity project data that the customer uploads, for future-proofing, or does the artist usually keep those to themselves? or is that a negotiable sort of thing?

[inner cape]

that depends on the creator

[cedar abyss]

Negotiable

[zinc solar]

Either or for me

[inner cape]

I'd personally give the whole project to the person

[zinc solar]

I prefer to directly upload if it's a complex model so it's not stolen and credited

[torn nebula]

makes sense, I suppose if you feel that's a risk you could either charge more for the project or decline the commission if the customer insists

[zinc solar]

(Even though I don't watermark my models)

Well I do free commisions

[torn nebula]

oh, well, I guess the rules are up to you then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal shard]

You upload for them.... Uh... That has the potential to be a problem...

[inner cape]

account sharing

[zinc solar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Some people are too dumb to use unity

[queen mango]

Even with tutorials teaching them?

[tacit plank]

You can use old SDKs still

[covert chasm]

@supple bison Unity bug. We can't fix it. Unity has to.

[tacit plank]

Some things will just not work. A few shaders and baking lights

[ripe fog]

I am trying to find an avatar of Nia from xenoblade 2, but more kid version that I saw a a world have. Imma post a picture down in the picture area but would like anyone who knows where to find it?

[zinc solar]

Don't blame me, some people are too stupid to understand basics, and want their VRNut avatars NOW

[vocal shard]

lmao

[queen mango]

Their bodies seem impatient..

[vocal shard]

vrnut avatars that is great

[covert chasm]

@torn nebula People usually want it uploaded for them, which is a really bad practice for two reasons:
If you want to modify/reupload/update the model for a new Unity version, you're out of luck if you don't have the original data
You absolutely should never ever allow anyone else to log into your account, ever

[torn nebula]

yeah, sharing account info is generally a bad idea - risk of cross-bans, etc... personally I wouldn't recommend taking on that level of risk (for either person involved), and particularly not for a free commission

[zinc solar]

@ripe fog That's just a hoppo with mia's clothes. Anyone can make that but my Unity is too stupid to work right now

[covert chasm]

When I got my avatar commission done I asked for the full raw assets for everything, including the PSDs for the textures.

[ripe fog]

ah what?

is newb

[covert chasm]

@ripe fog It is a kitbash-- a combination of multiple models and textures.

[torn nebula]

makes a lot of sense, if I ever take the plunge on a commission I'll definitely ask for the full assets too 😃

[zinc solar]

I mostly do that with the Unity packages, but some people DM me their info to upload directly

[tacit plank]

Unity doesn't entirely make sense at first, there's a few things that you need to learn to use it.
That said, it's not very difficult to learn. You can be uploading avatars with minor modifications (textures, dynbones, animations, etc) in less than an hour

[covert chasm]

@zinc solar You should straight up refuse to do that.

[queen mango]

Multiple models and textures.. A-aren't they atlased?

[covert chasm]

Sharing VRC login info, or even just using it, is a terrible idea

[ripe fog]

Should I just request for someone to make it for me?

[covert chasm]

@queen mango My model came with about 5 different materials, which is still fine.

[tacit plank]

It's probably easier to work with multiple textures, and then atlas before uploading. Dunno though

[queen mango]

[zinc solar]

Well I'm prob a dead avatar creator now. Unity is too stupid to work so I'm stuck being unable to make anymore avatars and possibly never being able to update my maps now

[covert chasm]

And yes, that. You want as close as possible to the "raw" format.

[tacit plank]

Some of my friends have 30~ materials, and sometimes that many meshes too

[zinc solar]

[covert chasm]

30 is way too much.

[glacial reef]

Come back to vrchat to notice i can't change mic in game without closing the game

rip guitar playing

[covert chasm]

I'd say my personal "limit" for materials is like 6-7 before I start worrying about atlasing it down.

[tacit plank]

I did tell them "you can merge it easily, it's one click in CATS" but..

[queen mango]

They wouldn't trust it?

[covert chasm]

To be totally optimal you should only have as many materials as you have separate shaders/shader setups.

[tacit plank]

I honestly don't know

I don't get people

[covert chasm]

and if you have more than 6 separate shaders on your avatar you should really reconsider your aesthetic choices because you need to calm down

[vocal shard]

@glacial reef yeah, it's due to a unity bug, but i don't think it's permanent

[glacial reef]

hope not

[covert chasm]

It is a Unity bug, as I stated about 3 minutes ago, and we can't fix it until Unity provides a fix

[zinc solar]

If anyone have any shader packs that can help it will help me get back to work

[covert chasm]

Just use XSToon

[zinc solar]

I'm stuck because Unity broke most of my shaders

[covert chasm]

I'm so bored with flat lit shaders. People have 60k+ tris and then use Flat Lit. All that detail, gone

you might as well be a (really well made) imposter sprite

ramp shadows are the new meta 👌

I'll probably note that in my new tutorial, whenever I make that

flat lit wastes your super high poly geo. Use shadows, dammit

[vocal shard]

👌

[queen mango]

A New Year's suprise?

[vocal shard]

Imposter sprite sounds like the silhouette sprites from Smash Bros (Challenger Approaching screens)

For some reason, in my mind it did

[torn nebula]

out of curiosity - does vrchat dedupe shader compilation between different avatars?

[covert chasm]

I'm a little bit out of my element here but I don't believe shaders are compiled at runtime

they are compiled at build time for the platforms targeted

[zinc solar]

The thing that sucks was Flat lit was what I use the hide the see through skirts, or hoodies. Now the settings are broken to fix that, and I cannot find another alternative

[torn nebula]

well, they need to be eventually compiled to a graphics-card specific machine code, which can only be done by the specific graphics driver (and varies by GPU)

[covert chasm]

@zinc solar That's very easy to fix. Turn off backface culling in whatever shader you use.

[tacit plank]

Reasons to use Flat Lit is, the normal shader is ugly and makes everything look like plastic

[torn nebula]

there might be an intermediate compilation step done to make that secondary compilation step faster though

[ripe fog]

Thanks for the info, Im back on the hunt now

[covert chasm]

@tacit plank That's because you have smoothness turned up/roughness turned down.

[tacit plank]

I'd personally love a shader which makes things look like they were drawn on a tablet or something

[zinc solar]

How do i do that? Always just used my special shaders

[ripe fog]

pray I find it or I might juct have it made

[tacit plank]

Even on the minimum values, it looks a bit shiny and plastic. It also removes some color, the color space is not 0,255 but something like 30,220

[empty wharf]

Any reason why I can't use my local shaders? With the particle collision on someone's pill?

[covert chasm]

It won't be shiny at all with roughness at 1/smoothness at 0.

That's how PBR works. 🤔

[empty wharf]

One of my animations was failed from working after the update.

[covert chasm]

@zinc solar Most shaders with the option will allow you to turn "Face Culling" to "Back", "Front", or "Off". You want "Off".

[tacit plank]

FlatLitToon with a completely black thing is that, black. With the normal shader, it's just dark grey

[torn nebula]

@empty wharf some animations (particularly ones affecting rotations) broke with the unity 2017 update and can be fixed by reuploading with the correct version of unity and the SDK

[empty wharf]

Didn't seem to fix it

[sleek bone]

Is there a VRChat Obby

[zinc solar]

What about something new I have been coming acroos. Whenever I upload an avatar to Unity, I cannot edit the textures now. It's just a set un-selectable texture unless I change it to another material

[tacit plank]

Metallic and smoothness at 0, still looks plastic. It needs to be vibrant. Basically a flat lit toon but with strong, gradiant colors

Check the import settings, set it to "external" and apply them like usual, that should work

[covert chasm]

@tacit plank Default settings

smoothness 0

[vocal shard]

Anime characters have barely any shadows being cast on them anyway.

[covert chasm]

specular highlights and reflections off

All on standard 😛

[feral lance]

OOP

[inner cape]

finally

caffeine being slain

[feral lance]

tupper we should hang out in vrchat so i know you are real

[empty wharf]

Tupper is a robot overlord confirmed

[vocal shard]

He's on VRChat. On a good day. When the planets are aligned right.

[feral lance]

Thats what im saying

[covert chasm]

I'm on VRChat nightly, but I'm sneaky

[tacit plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403850079032705024/529129489473601577/unknown.png

[queen mango]

[vocal shard]

Secret agent Tupper confirmed.

[feral lance]

ooh sneaky tupper.

[torn nebula]

So... you're on the VRChat nightly build, so nobody on production can see you? 😄

[umbral oracle]

standard is really powerful. One question I don't understand is why specular requires a different version of Standard. Is it not the right thing to do use for metallic reflections?

[inner cape]

but then he just uses the mod hiding

[tacit plank]

Looks plastic to me, I guess I just don't like the default lighting

[zinc solar]

Meh, I quit. Way too much to learn now with this new SDK, I was doing perfectly fine until this update.

[covert chasm]

Nope, I'm on Live.

[queen mango]

You coming into the Times Square tomorrrow night?

[feral lance]

tupper admit it. you trap others dont you

[queen mango]

[vocal shard]

@zinc solar What's the issue ?

[covert chasm]

trap them in what?

[zinc solar]

@vocal shard Everything

[vocal shard]

As in... ?

[inner cape]

tried joining him a few times with a friend, he's invisible

[tacit plank]

I want the colors to look like my hentai collection

[vocal shard]

Inb4 Tupp goes around in an Oblivion guard avatar

[torn nebula]

Trapping crashers takes on a whole new layer of meaning

[dark narwhal]

My dream is to find Tupper in public using a girly voice changer

[feral lance]

thatll be the day. when i meet you in vr and i wont even know it

[umbral oracle]

@zinc solar people here can try to help if you have specific issues you are running into...you can also ask in #avatars-2-general

[vocal shard]

And plays the lines

[rough flax]

Tupper

[covert chasm]

You can use flat lit toon, but I really dislike how much it hides lighting changes, shadows, and gradients. Here, let me show you what I mean.

[umbral oracle]

but going back to Unity 5.6, even if it works for now will make awful lighting artifacts so not really good for a commission..unless they specifically requested self headpats through the mirror

[dark narwhal]

noe noes shader has great lighting

[tacit plank]

I do too, it removes important detail

But I just dislike the default too much

[covert chasm]

That's XSToon with some smoothness/metallic mapping, normals, etc.

I also have SSS on the arm/face skin and rim lighting.

[empty wharf]

Really changed your avatar since long ago Tup tup.

[vocal shard]

Looks more 3D than traditional anime. Which can be good.

[umbral oracle]

a lot of anime actually use smooth shading too

[covert chasm]

The hair needs a bit of work, but it is meant to look a bit plastic-y.

[umbral oracle]

just a slight gradient, not too much shading

[zinc solar]

Most of my Shaders no longer work, Dynamic bones are missing, I keep getting the "Clear Player Cache and prefabs" when I try to upload, every time I import a new model the textures cannot be edited or selected so i have to assign a new material to each texture, and I am unable to fix anything for 6 days no mater how much help I get.

[vocal shard]

never thought id see the day cirno can look good like that lmao

[dark narwhal]

looks like a figurine

[tacit plank]

That looks great! You went all out with those maps though, lol. I don't have any maps for my avatars ATM

[queen mango]

That's an android..

[covert chasm]

The Knights of Sidonia style is good too. Just use a ramp with a hard cut-off.

[vocal shard]

Wait a minute

You liked that show too?

[umbral oracle]

@zinc solar sometimes Dynamic Bones got distributed illegally outside the unity asset store, maybe included in a unitypackage you downloaded. Those versions are not compatible with Unity 2017.... you will have to redownload from the Asset Store

[inner cape]

they only look good from a certain angle

[feral lance]

wait tupper could you do me a huge favor actually

[tacit plank]

You're missing dynamic bones because you pirated it and thus don't have the update. Change the import settings to make textures work. It's not the end of the world

[covert chasm]

Yes, KoS is probably one of the best hard sci-fi anime that's out there minus probably Planetes

[vocal shard]

Yuh, I still watch it sometimes

Loved it

[covert chasm]

Actually let me try building a hard cut-off gradient, I wonder how it'll look

[zinc solar]

@umbral oracle I did buy it, but whenever I import it, it doesn't show up when I try to add the component

[covert chasm]

🤔

[feral lance]

there is this vrchat community of spidermen. super fun lovable people. i was wondering if you could join the server. you dont have to be active

[umbral oracle]

Having any script errors, will cause none of the scripts to load

[feral lance]

it would just mean a lot to them if you joined

[stone current]

i like my mix of standard and toon

[umbral oracle]

take a look at the console tab and find the first red error about some cs file

[covert chasm]

I'm already in a ton of servers, I don't think I want to join any more :S sorry

[twilit hull]

hey anyone know when the timesquare map will be up?

[stone current]

hard shadows but soft lighting

[feral lance]

gg fair enough :3

[queen mango]

When new year's come up, @twilit hull

We're kinda one day ahead of them tho

[vocal shard]

When New Year's come... in Australian time ? lol

[stone current]

hey why are rotated avatar stations so glitchy for vr users

[queen mango]

Hong Kong Time, Teal..

[vocal shard]

Oh boy

[queen mango]

Or AUS, or JPN Standard Time

[stone current]

i have a station thats rotated pretty far but when people sit in it they are typically very far away from where they should be

[vocal shard]

inb4 Greenwich time.

[dark narwhal]

Has anyone here bought a pair of vrchat lounge pants yet

[zinc solar]

Tupper can you say I'm cool so I can brag to people that Tupper said I was cool?

[queen mango]

Anyways, SE Asia is either 1 or 3 hours behind them, and 8-15 hours ahead of the West

So.. we celebrate holidays earlier or later.

[zinc solar]

[torn nebula]

Japan will reach the future (i.e. 2019) well ahead of the US

[queen mango]

Btw.. Sana may masayang Bagong Taon kayo

[zinc solar]

All the weebs in VRChat wish they were in japan

[dark narwhal]

^

[stone current]

[vocal shard]

Oh god I don't want to be in Japan. Cost a fortune to live there.

[torn nebula]

I mean, that's why Korean Japan Shrine is always ranking in the active worlds list, isn't it?

[zinc solar]

Not as bad as the people who claim they live in japan when they don't

[queen mango]

Funny enough, I was wishing to celebrate Christmas in JPN, somewhere in 2021

[zinc solar]

[stone current]

y that year in specific

[vocal shard]

Not as bad as people that Google translate everything they say in Japanese and attempt to communicate with actual people from Japan and cause them actual physical pain from all the cringe.

[queen mango]

Mhm..

[covert chasm]

Hrm, I'm not really a huge fan of this

[zinc solar]

They will be gone in Jpn when Kayne west becomes president

[covert chasm]

i had to fix the ramp to use Clamp instead of Wrap for wrapping mode

maybe a lighter gray

[vocal shard]

Ewww that aliasing.

[covert chasm]

hardramps.txt

[queen mango]

That don't look smooth

[covert chasm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slow lance]

I have not found a shader yet that I think looks good.

[zinc solar]

If I ever fix unity i will make Tupper a busty Cirno avatar

[queen mango]

[vocal shard]

The sun tanned version

Of course.

[zinc solar]

[stone current]

[zinc solar]

[vocal shard]

Boosette > Bowsette

[queen mango]

I'd be disappointed if the VRC team don't come together for New Year's Eve..

[covert chasm]

Can also change up the color of the shadow ramp for the skin so its warmer

[stone current]

have u tried this ramp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399314021934825487/529133378117697556/HybridRamp.png

u might need to raise contrast its designed for xiexes

[dark narwhal]

📐 i use this ramp

[vocal shard]

People in colder countries tend to like their lighting more warm toned, while people at the equator tend to prefer colder lighting.

[stone current]

wat

[vocal shard]

When you have a -40 C winter, you like your cozy warm lights.

[stone current]

color temperature is designed to assist with the lighting around u

i.e. if ur in sun it uses cooler lighting and in a room uses warmer lighting

slightly more appealing to the eyes

[covert chasm]

Looks OK but there's too much shadow past the 50% marker, and you can see the quantization come out in the shadows

[stone current]

yea its the contrast

lower it to the point where its a light shadow

not 100% darkness

[vocal shard]

I like how the eyes just remain full bright. XD

[stone current]

theyre emissive

[covert chasm]

That's intentional 😛

[stone current]

^

[vocal shard]

You only see two eyes in the dark. o3o

[covert chasm]

They're emissive and don't recieve shadows

[stone current]

are u using xiexes

[covert chasm]

yes

1.6

[stone current]

o ok yea i thought

[dark narwhal]

its because tupper has 77 different materials and some are emissive

[stone current]

bc i saw specular highlights

[covert chasm]

I have 7, and one never renders, so 6

[dark narwhal]

darn

[stone current]

lol

is it overkill if i have tail wagging and breathing animations

[covert chasm]

nah

I've thought about making a blendshape for breathing

[stone current]

i have 2

[dark narwhal]

ive seen it before it is cool

[stone current]

lung and diaphram breathing

https://i.gyazo.com/a2635e6fccab9faf14641394baffca78 check it out

[covert chasm]

then again I'm an android, I don't breathe

[vocal shard]

I remember the default xiexes casting an ugly shadow at the cheeks height. Maybe I did something wrong ?

[stone current]

the chest expands first

[covert chasm]

oh wow that's really subtle, that's great

[stone current]

ur ramps arent the best

[covert chasm]

@vocal shard That's because you forgot to set the ramp to Clamp wrapping

[vocal shard]

Actual breathing avatar. Clever

[stone current]

and that

[dark narwhal]

mmhhh abbs...i mean nice breathing

[vocal shard]

XD

[stone current]

oh u wanna see what te avatar looks like

[vocal shard]

Mmmm yes

[dark narwhal]

👀

[stone current]

https://i.gyazo.com/04425c43a014596f3de17e4c57cccef0.png

[vocal shard]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[stone current]

lol

[midnight oyster]

Wo

[dark narwhal]

never skip poly day

[stone current]

lmao

its hovering around the limit but also has 2-3 animators

[vocal shard]

Let me check those ramp things... let see...

[stone current]

cuz u cant group body meshes i think

would break eye tracking

otherwise i would only have like 2 animators

wait tupper i have a question

would anything break if instead of using the avatar as is

i put it inside an empty gameobject

and the descriptor in the gameobject

or does it have to be on the import with the animator

[slim tapir]

It is sexy sunday correct?

[dark narwhal]

i think it has to be on the rigged model

[stone current]

darn

bc like heres the problem

i want to make a bunch of blend shape and bone movement

so for each different mesh or armature i need an animator

[dark narwhal]

you can set visemes to something else tho

[stone current]

if i could group them somehow and have no problem

then i could just use 1-2 animators and more animator layers

[vocal shard]

I’m a toaster, can someone teach me what love is?

[stone current]

love is c0rn

[dark narwhal]

love is not burning my toast when i forget to reset the timer

[vocal shard]

Ok

Ok, ramp ramp ramp. Where are the ramps.

[stone current]

u make them

[vocal shard]

Oh so I need actual artistic skills ?

[stone current]

no

just good use of gradients and experimentation

also i would recommend u copy the ramp over to every avatars folder

[vocal shard]

Ah okay, as in... I have no time for that.

[stone current]

because if u make a change to it u could affect every other avatar unknowingly when u re upload them

[vocal shard]

gradient ramp https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509099391492161558/513529049251840012/gradient.png

hybrid ramp https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509099391492161558/513529118155866141/gradientFace.png

Problem solved (tm)

I guess

[dark narwhal]

I like my women like i like my ramps

[stone current]

[vocal shard]

more fun to make your own, with exactly the right curve

[dark narwhal]

uploaded to vrchat through unity

[stone current]

yea for like 20 something minutes

[dark narwhal]

ive spent 20 mins making a ramp before

[vocal shard]

Also where is the "cutout" setting ? o3o

[stone current]

oh xiexes doesnt have that i think

[vocal shard]

Welp... gg.

[stone current]

it just automatically changes itself to handle transparency

[vocal shard]

No xiexes.

[stone current]

i couldnt really find any way to change that

[still lark]

@vocal shard Read the docs. :P

You'll find so much information

[vocal shard]

I need simple. Back to cubed. lol

[stone current]

cubed transparency isnt that great

[vocal shard]

ain't nobody got time for that @still lark

[stone current]

try noenoe

[vocal shard]

Ah this one is an actual unitypackage

[still lark]

There's essentially no difference between a unitypackage and a zip.

[vocal shard]

Pretty much

[stone current]

well

zip doesnt import directly into unity when double clicked

[still lark]

A UnityPackage doesn't inherently make it better.

[stone current]

yea

its less compressed i think

but yea they just hold files

except packages hold files and import metadata

[still lark]

So does a zip.

[vocal shard]

lmao default NoeNoe makes my avatar look like she has liver disease or something. Like those people that get fake suntans and it just look orange.

[stone current]

yea but the zip

is just essentially compressed folder

[still lark]

So is a unitypackage

[stone current]

but unity package is similar but not the same way it imports

it would be the same if u put 7-zip to extract files and into the Assets folder

[vocal shard]

Is it normal NoeNoe greatly exaggerates the colors ?

[tacit plank]

Did you put albedo color on it or something? Try messing with the sliders btw

[stone current]

^

all the toon shaders are fairly configurable

of course cubeds being the most simple

[vocal shard]

albedo ? What's that ?

[still lark]

The main texture.

[stone current]

the diffuse/color texture

[civic plume]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 8346 users in VRChat currently

[civic plume]

8k nice

[vocal shard]

Same skin texture.

https://i.imgur.com/kXAmLZU.png

https://i.imgur.com/S2AKz3e.png

[still lark]

Mess around with the saturation slider.

[vocal shard]

Let see

That did the trick. Thanks lol
Setting is like 0.65 saturation and 0.92 intensity.

I now see absolutely no difference between the two.

[still lark]

tbh that doesn't make sense. lol

[vocal shard]

lol it's true. Switching between the two, I see barely any difference. Like I can tell it does switch between the two because the color is not exactly like... "hex code perfect match" kind of same. But there's literally no other difference. It's strange. lol

[umbral oracle]

the shaders are applying lighting from your scene. the code for computing lighting might be different, maybe in how it applies the toon ramp

[vocal shard]

Ah so maybe further testing with different lamps would show differences.

[umbral oracle]

also you should double check with the Game tab as the scene tab isn't always so accurate

[vocal shard]

https://i.imgur.com/OyvO4yt.png

Big difference with the shadows

Seems to remove the bad aliased "light spots"

[covert chasm]

The only difference between a ZIP and a UnityPackage is that the ZIP uses zip compression, while the the UnityPackage uses gzip and has a different internal structure with a file directory. The difference between importing is the package requires a doubleclick (or, ideally, Assets->Import), and the ZIP requires you open the file and extract the contents into the Unity Project

otherwise they are precisely the same

compression quality depends entirely on the settings you use when you ZIP/compress the files

[stone current]

ye

but zip allow u to change that and remains lossless even at most high compression setting

[covert chasm]

I mean, all of the file compression formats have to be lossless

[stone current]

so it a good choice for people who dont like file sizes and download times

[covert chasm]

that's like

really really important

haha

[velvet quarry]

I'd be a bit worried if it lost data

[vocal shard]

Gimme .7z plz.

[covert chasm]

tar.gz, tia

[stone current]

7zip is free nob

woof

[covert chasm]

all of the compression formats are free in some form

7ZIP handles pretty much all of them

[stone current]

winzip is disgustang

[vocal shard]

Gimme .rar plz. Oh wait... don't plz.

[covert chasm]

winzip is just an interface

[stone current]

and windows decompression/zip viewer is bad

[covert chasm]

Windows decompression is fine, it doesn't do anything different

[stone current]

its really slow and sometimes cant actually handle some zips correctly

[covert chasm]

all of these are just interfaces

[stone current]

when opening them like folder

[covert chasm]

the important thing is the libraries driving the compression software

[stone current]

yea but 7zip is faster at extracting

[covert chasm]

no, the libraries that 7zip uses are faster

[stone current]

yea

[covert chasm]

its an important distinction

[stone current]

but 7zip has the ability to extra t

faster than windows default

[covert chasm]

maybe, but i think saving 4-5 seconds isn't a huge deal if you're willing to deal with it haha

[stone current]

not 4-5 seconds

[vocal shard]

superdupercoolshader.iso
4GB in size, but contains actually 50 mb of data and the rest is all padding.

[stone current]

highly compressed and very large output files

7zip beats default by minutes

[vocal shard]

Bonus with 7zip: You don't get nag screen to buy WinRar.

[stone current]

quite a few

^^

[vocal shard]

Bonus #2 with 7zip: You don't need to pirate WinRar.

[covert chasm]

I mean I'm talking in context of like.. unity package-sized files

windows stuff is Good Enough

[stone current]

and also sometimes default zip opener cant even handle some zips so it links you to some random temp cache

and u cant access its files

[covert chasm]

that being said, I do normally recommend 7zip anyways

[vocal shard]

Can Windows actually uncompress all the most common file formats ?

[covert chasm]

yes

[stone current]

yea 7zips never failed me

yea but its not the best

[vocal shard]

Even .tar ?

[stone current]

it doesnt always work

[covert chasm]

tar isn't common outside of its circles

[stone current]

idk about rar though

[covert chasm]

esp for the "basic windows user" demographic

[stone current]

yea i know it opens

[covert chasm]

if you're dealing with tar files, you're already in the realm of "you should know what to do with this"

[stone current]

7z gz zip

and idk what others

[vocal shard]

How about that format that Japanese model developers commonly use... hmm... can't remember.

[covert chasm]

Most MMDs I see come in ZIP, RAR, or etc.

[stone current]

^

[covert chasm]

I think windows handles RAR, unsure

[vocal shard]

Yeah but there was an other format that I saw often for stuff from Asia.

[stone current]

i downloaded a rar opener before getting 7zip

so i think not

[velvet quarry]

I don't think there's any method of opening RAR files on standard windows

Needs 7zip or Winrar

[vocal shard]

Oh maybe it was .bz2

[stone current]

u mean like gmod maps

[dark narwhal]

#general-media

[vocal shard]

The #general-media hammer has hit

[velvet quarry]

I am mildly internally conflicted

[stone current]

so is it normal for

animators to not work in mirrors

if they are on an inactive object that was activated

they work fine if the object was firstly active

[stuck iron]

So I don't know if this is a me thing, but I can't add people to my favorites anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

[dark narwhal]

yeah all the favorites options tend to bug out

[stuck iron]

ok

Thank you

[dark narwhal]

np

[stone current]

wtf

some one sent "when u think that u lost ur dog but remember that u are ur dog woof woof"

ima repot 2 poleeze

[vocal shard]

You just found a talking dog. Call the NSA, the aliens have invaded !

[stone current]

i am talking dog

[vocal shard]

AHhhh !!

lol

[stone current]

<-

[vocal shard]

Nobody knows that we are all dogs.

[stone current]

[vocal shard]

🌭 wait, wrong dog.

[stone current]

disguise +200 XP

[queen mango]

But I'm a neko...

[stone current]

human + animal = neko

is that a bad thing

[queen mango]

[stone current]

haha when u think uve gone blind but actually all the power and the headset turned off

:(((

[ruby needle]

human + cat = neko
human + animal = anthromorph or furry
this = #general-media

[queen mango]

Welp..

[stone current]

there are dog nekos

[vocal shard]

The #general-media 🔨 hit harrrrdd.

[sullen escarp]

cat = neko
human + cat = neko
????? 🤔

oh i get it, human = 0

[queen mango]

Hmm.. In VRChat, what is the human to nekomimi ratio in comparison to the human/cyborg-android ratio?

[tacit plank]

0.3 and 15 are my guesses. Leaving you with the questionable answer of "about 50 times less"

I'm off to bed now though

[queen mango]

[vocal shard]

If I ever learn how to make a room, I want to make one where you can learn languages in it

Anyone else like the idea or nah?

Do you mean like making a world for VRChat ?

If so, I think the official VRChat documentation got you covered for the basics: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/creating-your-first-world

[viral yacht]

I used to clear my cache all the time but now it seems that when I go into my app data folder, there is no local low so I’m kinda stuck on what to do

[stone current]

there is

ur just in roaming instead of appdata

[viral yacht]

God I’m dumb, thank you

[stone current]

xd

[vocal shard]

Maybe they need to update the "cleancache" command ?

[stone current]

ik its weird

%AppData% goes to

AppData/Roaming

because why the hecc not

!getcookies

[vocal shard]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

[vocal shard]

So this ^ is wrong, eh ?

[stone current]

no

[wanton depot]

How long does it usually take until I can import one of my own models?

[pastel ginkgo]

there is no "usually" tbh

just play the game lol

[vocal shard]

Average is 10-15 hours of active play... But it varies greatly because it's not time based

[pastel ginkgo]

listen to the other jamie instead

[vocal shard]

Lol

[velvet quarry]

Times square world is now live

[vocal shard]

Yay!

[meager solstice]

nice!

[queen mango]

Alrighty

And the BM poster managed to get through

[vocal shard]

I don’t know why

But I’ve always wanted a Home Alone map for VRChat

“Keep the change ya filthy animal”

Happy Holidays, everyone!

Happy holidays

[queen mango]

Masayang bakasyon sa inyong lahat!

[queen mango]

Wait a minute.. I thought the VRC Times Square is live right now..

[meager solstice]

it is

[vocal shard]

It's live, yeah

[queen mango]

What name does it go by with?

Hmm.. lemme check if it's just my network being slow

I don't see it...

[vocal shard]

Should be in featured (as i was told... Haven't been on myself)

[queen mango]

Checked it on featured.. it's not there.
The map may have been privatized.

[velvet quarry]

I believe there was a slight update to the world, it might need to be made public again.

[vocal shard]

Maybe... I just got some pics from friends playing on it (not the test map). But yeah..

[queen mango]

Alright.

I appreciate the notification.

[fringe anchor]

Anyone here knows why VRChat crashes on random moments, or just lag people to the point of having to restart the game to play normally? (It happens to me as well and my PC specs are good enough for my VR to work)

[small wing]

Ram leak

[vocal shard]

fun times that

[small wing]

Ive had the same issue since i started playing 3 years ago

cant really help it other than restarting

[willow solstice]

wait where did times square go

[small wing]

@fringe anchor

[fringe anchor]

Soo... The game leaks ram?

[velvet quarry]

@willow solstice I believe the map is being updated, it should come back soon I imagine

[small wing]

For me at least.

[velvet quarry]

I have seen certain worlds be prone to memory leaks

[fringe anchor]

Is that why I'm running on like 7 fps when I toggle mirrors?

[velvet quarry]

Usually only affects me after 4-5 hours or so though

[small wing]

Yep

[fringe anchor]

Or when I go anywhere near mirrors.. lol

[small wing]

Mirrors render everything twice = more ram usage

[vocal shard]

ive monitored the ram usage once the vrchat hits past 8gigs of ram used it goes into stutter lag fest

[true gazelle]

isnt it usually cus mirrors r usually unoptimized in most worlds

[small wing]

all mirrors are unoptimized

they render everything twice

[true gazelle]

ahhh

[velvet quarry]

Doubles the double I would imagine

[true gazelle]

mirrors r a curse haha

[small wing]

and most people know literally nothing about occlusion

[velvet quarry]

Not sure if RAM is the cause of your issue Knack, but mirrors will always cause extra lag no matter what.

[fringe anchor]

So does it mean that people with a computer that cost under 500$ can't even run the game? (I have someone who tried and they had to restart the game like 7 times until he gave up)

[velvet quarry]

You could try asking in #user-support-old , or contacting the official support team directly.

[true gazelle]

i have the most garbage computer and im able to run it but its not reccommended <:)

i lag so much in vr ahaha

[queen mango]

Is your connection good?

[small wing]

@fringe anchor i got my friend to run it on a 90 dollar laptop with some modding, its possible. just not enjoyable.

[vocal shard]

ive never had insane lag with mirrors them selfs but once the ram at least for me when client hits past 8 gigs it goes crazy. ive once pushed it till i hit 15gigs used i was in slideshow mode till i crashed so hard i had to cold reboot aha

[fringe anchor]

Yeah, it's pretty good, his might not be as good

[queen mango]

And btw, what are the specs of your computer, @true gazelle?

[true gazelle]

oh let me check <:0 im not good@ remembering

[fringe anchor]

@small wing Uhm... I think I forgot the word "properly" lol

[true gazelle]

i just know its not goo denough to run oculus at all

[queen mango]

Damn..

You could check in the Nvidia settings.

[true gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274336191623593984/529196592365043723/unknown.png

these r the only problems w it

<:3'' agh

[queen mango]

AMD components..

[vocal shard]

holy bagels

[queen mango]

Is there an app that can track those?

[true gazelle]

aahaaha

im surprised my computer is still alive!

[vocal shard]

in desktop mode im sure its not bad though

[true gazelle]

its not <:3!

[queen mango]

I dunno how.. but if I tried Oculus on my laptop, it woukd most certainly shit its components

[true gazelle]

well back then it wasnt...

[vocal shard]

ive seen way worse run on this in desktop mode aha

[true gazelle]

idk abt now cus theres alot of cool worlds :0 and to add on alot of cool ppl w cool avatars!

[queen mango]

My laptop is on an i5 8th-gen CPU, a GeForce 940MX 2GB, and on 4GB of RAM

[true gazelle]

;/ ooga

[fringe anchor]

Imagine trying to play VRChat but not being able to because of a game issue that requires you to buy upgrades for your computer .... not fun

[true gazelle]

as long as its better than mine!!! thats all that matters : D

<:/ its okay bud,! just look@ the bright side <:3c eventually better upgrades-better computer-!!!

just gotta wait for it

[fringe anchor]

We waited half a year so he would get a computer that could run games

[true gazelle]

D:> agh!!!

[fringe anchor]

Lmao...

[velvet quarry]

What sort of specs does the computer have though?

[true gazelle]

dontn worry!i waited that long almost too for my new computer only to find out it isnt vr ready <:0

[fringe anchor]

I have no idea

[vocal shard]

my cpu is an i7 4770. gtx 1080ti 32gigs of ddr3 1600

[velvet quarry]

It's hard to judge if the computer is able to run VRChat properly without knowing the specs

[fringe anchor]

I'll ask, but the PC itself cost 400$

Maybe that helps you guess it's specs

[vocal shard]

although my cpu is modified as i delidded the heat spreader off it to change the paste under it heh

[fringe anchor]

Sorry I didn't understand anything of what you just said ;x

[vocal shard]

probably good thing aha

[true gazelle]

also!!! love the name giffany!! she was one of my favorite characcters in gravity falls! <:3

[vocal shard]

[true gazelle]

i wanted to use giffany as a vravatar :0 but i didnt think she would fit me!

[queen mango]

Tiffany?

[true gazelle]

.giffany <:3

[queen mango]

Ah..

Didn't know the West would start having anime characters..

[true gazelle]

i think its nice that cartoons can have references to animes while staying in their still cartoon form

[vocal shard]

hehe. i want a vrchat av of her

[true gazelle]

even though.... theyre both cartoons haha

[vocal shard]

but seems there is none as im aware

[true gazelle]

:0 i saw a giffany mmd !

[vocal shard]

oh? interesting

should try to keep it to random chat if ya do show anything

[true gazelle]

well theres two..

[vocal shard]

since we broke that all ready here

[true gazelle]

<:0 ya oops

in the end!!! i hope everyones computers dont die so we can all keep playing vrchat <:0

fun people out there!!

[vocal shard]

[fringe anchor]

Charming~

[vocal shard]

ikr

[zinc solar]

dis the teim peeple B bustling dat VRNut

[queen mango]

Umm.. none as far as I saw..

[zinc solar]

It's a sad time for all of us

[queen mango]

There might be some weirdos who would do that on New Year's Eve on 8 hours Asia time..

[zinc solar]

Well, it's obvious when some of your friends are in private worlds, and naked/suggestive avatar thumbnails. Except one friend who's in a world called "18+ Dungeon, No Cameras!"

[rigid crescent]

why are you so obsessed with that

it's all you talk about lol

[zinc solar]

It's a disgusting habit that sometimes ruins my experience with the game when I think about it, and my friends openly do it around this time. Plus this Discord I'm in that has people posting screenshots and videos of it.

[rigid crescent]

leave

literally remove thos epeople

[zinc solar]

As well as that one time I came across the 14 y/o who openly does that stuff with a 25 y/o

[rigid crescent]

you're obsessed with it, it's as you'd put it, "sad"

[queen mango]

I've heard that before

[zinc solar]

Not obsessed. Just deal with it

[queen mango]

Man.. you've changed..

[vocal shard]

eh...

[rigid crescent]

you literally bring it up every chance you get, almost every night. if you hate it so

[zinc solar]

I do make avatars for the people who do it. I like to vent

:y

[queen mango]

Seems like you haven't moved on from what happened back at that old Discord server

[zinc solar]

No this is a different Discord. I'm over that wolf Discord when I saw the mess they turned it into

[rigid crescent]

you bring it up daily, multiple times. just remove yourself from the situation, it's easy

[vocal shard]

i must have a automatic bs sensor i always seem to arrive or know when crap is going down or something...

[zinc solar]

Welp, my own self promise of making avatars for anyone no matter the requests, plus I'm a mod in this Discord and helps them often. Just the ERP section bothers me a lot

[rigid crescent]

then don't look at it

[zinc solar]

Hell, I'm complaining more about Unity right now. Just got off of VRChat because nobody is online

Well... Online to hang out with

[vocal shard]

if channels bug me i just mute them then right click server icon and click the hide muted channels button. never see them again unless someone pings ya from with in it once

[zinc solar]

If you have to deal with it to an extent like I do, you'll understand. But it's complicated to explain

[rigid crescent]

no, not really. it's not a big deal whatsoever

[twin jacinth]

7k user on now
Nani that's a lot

[rigid crescent]

yeah the average online has gone up finally, and that's without any of the serve issues fixed lol

[vocal shard]

indeed except im not on wont be till well when i dont feel like i was ran over by a truck into a spike wall in a frozen ocean in a cavern

[twin jacinth]

The average has spiked a lot lol
that's nice to see

[vocal shard]

[zinc solar]

VRDevs should really consider my idea of microtransactions and rent-a-private server

Battlefield does it

[vocal shard]

I like the idea of renting a private server, but microtransactions seems like a sin. Not that I know what your idea was, so 🤷

[twin jacinth]

microtransactions no thanks

[zinc solar]

Fine, renting a private server.

It would be more people out in the open.

[rigid crescent]

uhhh no

[twin jacinth]

Are they running their own servers atm or?

[rigid crescent]

that's stupid lol

[zinc solar]

No

[rigid crescent]

easy way to kill the game. some people like hanging out with just their friends

[twin jacinth]

rent a private server as in basically out-sourcing?

[zinc solar]

People need to rent a private server now if they want to bust a vrnut, or stage a youtube video

[twin jacinth]

Wow that's just stupid lol
That's what you meant

[rigid crescent]

yeah

[vocal shard]

If VRChat is hurting for cash then they can have Ubisoft buy them out, put obnoxious microtransactions in them and pay a bunch of social media shitpuppets to shill for it

[twin jacinth]

No microtransaction it will fuck the game over

[zinc solar]

Friend of friend servers will be open to anyone, but friends invite only and invite only must be rented

[twin jacinth]

Where did you get the idea that microtransaction is a good thing in this game?
renting a private server nani tf?

Can you explain why it would benefit anyone in any kind of way`?

[rigid crescent]

It doesn't, they're just idiotic and vindictive.

[zinc solar]

Microtransactions to unlock special emotes, and exclusive avatars made by devs or something.
Renting a server to bring more weebs out of hiding

Help support the game more.

Now let's talk about loot boxes.....

[rigid crescent]

You realize tons of people in private rooms literally just want to hang out with friends, right?

Monetizing private rooms is the easiest way to hurt the game.

[zinc solar]

Well they'll make new friends rather than being in their everyday circle jerk. Game encourages socializing, not being cooped up with the same weebs everyday

[rigid crescent]

You're so....I mean stupid is the only word I can think of, as ad hominem as it is. You only see what you want to see

[twin jacinth]

1 people hang out with who they want, forcing people to hang out with people they don't want to will only hurt the player base and community, 2 unlocking special emotes umh no no point at all
unlocking exlusive avatars, you can make them yourself and people are already selling avatars??

[rigid crescent]

It's a social game. Socializing in a room with just my friends is socializing

[vocal shard]

I mean, the ability to rent out full servers (not to be confused with friends-only worlds in the regular-ass VRChat) might be cool for people who want to behave outside of the pretty strict community guidelines (not just VR bobs and vagene but that has its own appeal for sure). I dunno how many people would take advantage of it

[zinc solar]

That feeling when people think you are actually serious

[vocal shard]

"I-I-I was just pretending to be retarded g-guys! le smug emoji bro!"

[regal quail]

merely pretending

[twin jacinth]

That feeling when you are called stupid and have to get a backup plan to pretend it's sarcasm not to look stupid

[zinc solar]

Believe what you want

[rigid crescent]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/738/025/db0.jpg

[zinc solar]

The discussion was getting too serious so I thought I'd stop lol

[rigid crescent]

Oh you beat me to it PyGuy

[twin jacinth]

You do you Cloaked

[vocal shard]

[zinc solar]

But I mean if you think insulting me is a way to go then sure?

[rigid crescent]

It's almost like when you say stupid things all the time, people start thinking you're actually stupid...

[zinc solar]

Like you? :3

[rigid crescent]

No, not really.

[twin jacinth]

Complains about being insulted, proceeds to do the same

[zinc solar]

Welp, I mean there's no winning here.

[rigid crescent]

I mean when you're wrong of course you can't win lol

[zinc solar]

It's all of you guys vs me

[regal quail]

sounds hot

[twin jacinth]

We're just coming with counter arguments as of why we think it'd be stupid to implement the ideas you presented for us

[zinc solar]

There's really no "Winning" just a bunch of idiots arguing over a fake concept idea. If you look at my post history you'll know I bring up the "VRChat Microtransactions and loot boxes" multiple times as a joke

[rigid crescent]

As I said, if you act stupid all the time people will start thinking you're stupid

[zinc solar]

Hell, I even do it on the runescape Discord

[twin jacinth]

I wouldn't bothered searching up every single person i talk to, who does that?
if it really is a joke hint to it and don't act serious man

[zinc solar]

Not being serious, wut?

[rigid crescent]

just let them pretend to be retarded I guess

[zinc solar]

Yeah, no idea why he is getting upset

Lmao

[twin jacinth]

If you were active here you know people come with stupid ideas all the time, and you're writing stuff like that with no hints to it being a joke, and you expect people to think it's a joke?
man

[vocal shard]

[zinc solar]

Well, text it's harder to be sarcastic vs voice. If I was serious I wouldn't bring it up to this chat. I never take anything here serious

[twin jacinth]

Again, how can we know that?

[zinc solar]

People just need to stop taking everything literal.

Let loose

[subtle prawn]

I didn't see it serious when I just read it

[zinc solar]

Kick of your Sunday shoes

[stone current]

[vocal shard]

peopLE JUST NeeD tO stoP TAKiNg eVERYTHINg liteRAL

[subtle prawn]

Ye :>

[stone current]

u r noob

[zinc solar]

It's the runescape twisted bow incident all over again. You offer a free twisted bow so long as you...
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[stone current]

[zinc solar]

And people thought I was serious and got reported

Luckily mod saw the joke

[stone current]

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[rigid crescent]

@vocal shard like that commission advertisement? lol

[stone current]

[vocal shard]

🤔

[twin jacinth]

People take it serious because you genuinely seemed serious about the concept
Loosen a bit more up and people might take it as a joke

[queen mango]

What did I miss?

[stone current]

[queen mango]