#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 690

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:13 PM

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when the insider team couldnt even get the timing right

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:13 PM

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The devs seem to have created an environment where they can never get useful feedback, because they only surround themselves with yes-men

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:13 PM

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yeah, he was like that when he joined to see the number spoofing i showed you. quick in, record, and out

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I really doubt anything new came of the open beta though. the few issues that were feedback related were ignored to begin with and didn't need an open beta to begin with

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:17 PM

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YokoThink

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And I doubt that there are a set number in the hundred users who participated in the beta

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:18 PM

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I mean also, what happens if they do make something friends only and one of your friends still decides to use the avatar to be a dick?

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Yeah ur reliant on everyone who has access to it not to spread em

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Well let's say he sets his avatar to "Friends Only" and no one that isn't on his friends list can use it, even if the Friend has SHaring on

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they can still use it to be an ass

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:21 PM

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They just need an option such as “only from pedestal” for public avatars so non public world owners can control who gets them

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Yep

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Reward avatars are fucked now too. This is stuff that we told them ages ago

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Wow Jawbones got yeeted for something he didn't do.

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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When I saw the name I knew it was gonna be you lol

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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That's what I mean Rokk. All the issues that popped up are issues they didn't even need an open beta for.

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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Seriously though this is why they should have a Pedestal Only avatar mode

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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EeeeeEeeee is typing

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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lmao

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:22 PM

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except the network ones

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:24 PM

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Wait the fuck

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Did jaw really get clapped for that?

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:24 PM

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ye

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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Shit man- The joke present i got was less of a dumpster fire then this update :')

Change the rules without saying anything about it and then just start clapping peeps -- Neat

sweet agate Dec 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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heyo

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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Awesome to know that if you where gone while the change happened you can get banned before being able to even react to it 👌

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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oh what rule changed

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:25 PM

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The fact that "public world avatar" now became "any avatar not set to private"

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Any avatar that you have on your account that is set to public (aka can be shared) can get you temp banned

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If not worse

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:26 PM

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I made a "disruptive" avatar before the public/private system was implemented (this was back in March).

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I haven't looked at it since

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:26 PM

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I'm gonna get myself banned because of my Miku avatar. Bet.

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:26 PM

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If I were to switch into it now, I could be banned. Cool beans 👌 👌 👌 👌 👌

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MOKERSNELLEWINDMOLEUUUH

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:27 PM

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I S T H A T C R U N C H I M U S I C E X T E N S I O N S?

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:27 PM

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I doubt it would be considered disruptive lol

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:27 PM

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I can make it disruptive

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:27 PM

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oh shit, time to delete all old avatars

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Sweat

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:28 PM

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~~or just yknow hit the button in unity~~

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:28 PM

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hitting the button bahkaNoThanks

sweet agate Dec 26, 2018, 1:28 PM

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vrcfrown

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:28 PM

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I just made all of mine private except my public world ones

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RIP "those neat experiments I shared with friends", too risky to keep around.

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Thanks devs.

sweet agate Dec 26, 2018, 1:29 PM

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I always have set mine to private, have something changed?

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:29 PM

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you can share avatars to other people if you set it as public

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:29 PM

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Any avatar set to public can be copied, even if not on a pedestal and not in a public world. People got banned for it @sweet agate

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:29 PM

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thats what the cloning thing work

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:30 PM

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People as in the bone of jaws

ocean bramble Dec 26, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Why is the creator of the avatar banned if the avatar was abused by someone else. The one actually abusing it should be banned

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:30 PM

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would be cool to have an option to change if an avatar is cloneable ingame 02Bean

sweet agate Dec 26, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Oh, I thought it was only from public avatar Worlds LUL

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:30 PM

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@cold talon ye there is, its literally at the bottom middle of the settings menu\

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:30 PM

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I guess in the moderators' eyes, it was like

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Jawbones bypassing the system

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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There's no room for nuance in this game's moderation (or the game to begin with)

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@ocean bramble If its an crasher other bad stuff- I kinda get it
IF they made a proper warning about it and changed there rules...

If its just an annoying avatar right now? Unless its a raid and shit just block and keep going

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@sterile drift I just thought of something

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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But hey- Im not a staff member for a big reason so

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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I mean there's no room for moderation in this game's moderation LOL

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Hm?

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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This is the fifth time I've witnessed an emoji getting someone banned.

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:31 PM

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LOL

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Hold on did people get banned for the sick emoji too?

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Yes.

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Oof

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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And of course, GV and G1 for the shaking emoji

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Yes

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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most of them just kicked tho

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Literally just got shaken out of existance

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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i mean it's just a public world ban at least

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just hang out with friends somewhere else for a few days

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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It's the incredibly condescending "you've been naughty" world ban lol

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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you dont mess with the spanner

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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@median basalt I got a warning for mentioning staff and then only replying to accusations made to me 👏
Meanwhile the person making the clame got just as bad of a warning

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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At least Jawbones has plenty of friends to dick around with

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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What does Jawbones' ban reason say actually?

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Gotta love the 'new' 'active' chat mods

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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Imagine a game where moderation only punished you if you're not famous lol

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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jawbones avatar being "annoying" @sterile drift

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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@umbral reef Actually Mimi's been pretty active as of late.

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:33 PM

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@sterile drift https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481052186927824906/527300587067408386/unknown-19.png

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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pretty sure subcom and that black n white avatar world got taken down for bad performance avatars but we got shonzo out here with 2k collisions

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Subcom was resubmitted

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Shonzo's is just being held in stasis by him but I hope it gets taken down

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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yeah they've fixed stuff afaik

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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@sterile drift A week being online aint active lmao

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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"Fixed" not really

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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shonzo avatars are barely even make lag tho imo

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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i mean they put it within upload limits or it wouldnt have passed

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Plenty of peeps behaved like that- You barely know who is who by that time

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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Subcom has three avatars now. The laggier ones are put on display in the corner, with a link on where to get downloads for them.

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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I mean in time we'll see if she's going to be active a lot or not

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 PM

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They yeeted the laggy avatars out of the world and are now trying to get people to download the unoptimized ones for private use lol

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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@median basalt they have like 11 atm

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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But yea you're right

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Tbh- Give it a month and then we can see

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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9 of them are just recolours of the loli cats

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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shonzo's avatars are no better/worse than all these other worlds. as you should know since we keep saying it non stop, a few bad avatars here and there won't matter. what matters is when everyone is crap

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Also I have a new hate for the song Common World Domination, Rokk.

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Vacations are over then and people go back to school properly then
So being active is something you commit to then instead of being bored and doing it

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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Why?

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:35 PM

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I got Project Mirai DX

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And it's SO HARD

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Lol

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Lemme show you the video of the hard mode of the song

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:36 PM

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It's been two weeks btw and still no reply on "hey am i allowed to put advertisements in my world i see lots of worlds with them" lol

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#supportplshelp

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:37 PM

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@rigid crescent I got a answer from tupper
"Its not my department"

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👌
And Owl Boy said he had no idea

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So awesome support from chat mods and admins 👀

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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yeah i sent an actual email which is what tupper said to do

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Owl Boy had no idea? bahkaThinkSpin2

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Yes- Owlboy is apperently a chat mod ??

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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He is

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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"We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:38 PM

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And ofcours he didnt say shit
He is a special treathment to the staff because his world is set to admin aproved
He had been allowed to play with way more shit then most users because he is buddies with admins and been here for long

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We all know its because of that admin aproved tag
Those fella's dont have to wait ages to upload and get more leeway with rules

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:40 PM

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YokoThink

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:40 PM

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i don't want a smelly nose so i'll never be big 'inner circle' boi, sadface

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:40 PM

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Even if i wanted by now id never get there :^)

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:41 PM

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owlboy has script access and doesn't even use it sad

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:41 PM

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lol

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:41 PM

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imagine having this much nepotism lol

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:41 PM

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Nepotism?

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Sounds like a family thing

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:42 PM

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That's what the name comes from

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Vriendjespolitiek

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Rutte politiek

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:42 PM

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Favoring friends and family, like a company where the incompetent son gets promoted to manager quickly while the smart bois get a tiny raise

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:43 PM

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vrpill

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:43 PM

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Or in this case, allowing worlds to break the rules because you like the author

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:43 PM

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I wish I was in a position to be extremely unfair to my userbase and get away with it because of my station. must be nice

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:44 PM

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@rigid crescent become a streamer and ezpz

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:44 PM

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uhh ohh

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Wait
Owl boy got promoted to Chatmod without asking for it?
don't you have to be contacted by them and asked if you want to be it? o.o

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Dunno.. I haven't seen him get promoted in my 5 months here

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:45 PM

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it's even funnier because even the people that are in a position of advantage but agree with us can't do anything about it because they'll just risk their own wellbeing so they have to go along with it and read shitstorms like this every week knowing you can never express your opinion openly :3

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:45 PM

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You do @twin jacinth

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But he would have been dumb to say no

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Of course but then when he himself says he get's this promotions without getting asked for it shows how privileged he is in this community compared to other content creators

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:46 PM

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@rigid crescent ooh, I know a guy like that

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:46 PM

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Gonna cause for loads of really fair and active moderating from him

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@twin jacinth implying he never bragged about stuff that was not true

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:46 PM

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I'm actually getting pretty far in the song but my fingers are in pain. Send help please.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:47 PM

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yeah same

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:47 PM

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@sterile drift Have some wine

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:47 PM

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that was honestly just a fun jab aimed at anyone like that who would happen to be reading LOL

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:48 PM

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@rigid crescent Pretty funny indeed

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:49 PM

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my favorite part about the whole pug ad thing is that we got his attention and he's aware it's against TOS, but it's still in there ;3 so he's knowingly breaking the rule that gets worlds declined and getting away with it. what a world~

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:49 PM

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YokoStress

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Man.. what a world we live in

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:49 PM

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I wonder, if big streamers would make worlds, would they get special treatment too?

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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One of the dudes that got special treathment for his world removed it after he learned about it

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Probably so, Bahka

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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so even giving him the benefit of the doubt of him not knownig (due to him being immune to all rules to begin with), he's now knowingly doing so

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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@cold talon they already stream so they already get it

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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02Bean

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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Matsix, Nagzz.. Jameskii?

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Probably even the big Swede

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:50 PM

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lets not forget about woops but i dont think he makes stuff

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:51 PM

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Imagine if a famous video game critic played this game instead of a streamer

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RIP John Bain

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:52 PM

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most likely they would only scratch the surface

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:52 PM

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I DID IT

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I'M DONE M M M

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:52 PM

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and that only shows the good part of vrc, but we all know the deeper you go the darker it gets

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:52 PM

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also who removed it Oclac? marriage world dude?

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Wait what

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Jesus.. the more you know, the more you pose a risk.

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Unsure as its been a while

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:53 PM

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a few weeks ago he actually asked him so i remember him mentioning taking it down, but it's still here. i guess it's not a world that needs to be upped very often though so its understandable

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:54 PM

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the devs want us to be happy with the top level stuff and not poke our noses into the game ChariotShrug

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:54 PM

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i mean it's not like anyone can do anything to change things so there's really no threat to ignoring us

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that's just politics tho, nothing new there. best you can do is hope for integrity and if you don't get it owell

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:55 PM

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and thats exactly what they are doing Lul

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Well- I been noting the peeps who arent getting help anymore because i and some others are not helping anymore in here

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and boy its fairly high

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:56 PM

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did all the helpin peps stop?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Maybe.. YokoStress

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:57 PM

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Well, Our V boy is rip
Sai is drinkin and fam time, im just here chatting
Most others are imo also less inactive because of christmas so

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:57 PM

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The nicest guys always had to be the most burdened..

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YokoStress

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:57 PM

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i mean that won't change anything tbh, someone else will just help lol

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:57 PM

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svel too RIP

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:57 PM

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hardly a burden, most help is "check announcements", "yeah here's a youtube video", or something else someone else will just answer anyway

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Not really GWnanamiLaceShrug Plenty of problems dont get solved at all

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Didn't omega get banned?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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He left

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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omega who datt?

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Just jump into #user-support-old and look at the past 50 msgs and count the users who never got a reply or help

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@tacit plank He left

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Omega.. the guy who's pretty much the brains in this community

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Creator of the rollercoaster worlds

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:58 PM

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well the basic problems do get solved like that GWakkOshrug

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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OH HIM
Why did he leave?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Dunno... YokoStress

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Creator of the rollercoaster worlds?
you mean GOD?

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Lmao

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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omegaLUL

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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oh good point i just realized a lot of them are me answering LOL

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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I don't see his name in VRChat anymore either

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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omega left? wow

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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@rigid crescent Its legit 99% you in that chat, maybe me throwing a link left or right when im bored and else its people providing half assed help and just telling to email instead of fixing it fast or nothing happening

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Not just this Discord.. also the game

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:00 PM

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lemme just uhhhhh https://puu.sh/Cnm93/6b3d00e1ad.png LOL

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Seems like what a lot of people did

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:00 PM

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uh oh, did he left right after that conversation?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:01 PM

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cirnoSaddest

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:02 PM

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i mean lots of shit happen, but leaving the game and discord just like that after pouring so much into it

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Damn.. I dunno 2bcry

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Hold on point me over to his last conversation

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:04 PM

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what was that elire?

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you feel like quitting on us?

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:04 PM

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👀

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Oh my.

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Elire how could you

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:04 PM

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ghost mentions PingRage

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 2:04 PM

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mmm

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I love those too

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 2:04 PM

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GWakkoHug
Elire can't leave as long as i'm here GWomoRaphiOhMy

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:05 PM

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i can make elire leave

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Qutting on this game.. Feels like a hard decision YokoStress

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:05 PM

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hows it a hard decision?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:05 PM

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YokoStress

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I had met good friends in my time on VRChat.. like 5 months ago

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:06 PM

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guess you could just do "from: Omega#2955"

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:06 PM

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It's the only game where you can be a loli in first person and pet people I think

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:06 PM

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5 months later.. almost none of them were playing the game anymore

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Only Cascadian, Red, and Bahamut

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And I dunno if Red's aware of this

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Remeber when people could get banned from world shaderz....

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Good times

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:07 PM

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can you not anymore?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Cafe Leblanc no longer has players too..

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cirnoSaddest

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:07 PM

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wdym world shaders?

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Probably nit cause thdn 1/2 the community would be banned

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:07 PM

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leaving this game is super easy to me xD

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:07 PM

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like screenspace? of shaders in worlds? bahkaThinkSpin2

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 PM

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its how im able to leave for months on end

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Like you can pretty easily write world shaders to erase the entire ui. I feel like you can still get banned for that

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Hmm.. you've been used to it.

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 PM

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That reminds me, I need to reverse engineer a shader so that I can make another shader which makes it invisible

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Basically any shader impacting a large area or impairing vision excessively

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Leaving this won't happen for me
got way to many good friends here

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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i think you can still get banned for that if you get reported

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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@ember raptor Was a thing in the past but right now the UI loads over everything else so far i know

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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jufo?

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Yes?

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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you have friends?

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Wow ;_;

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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the UI has zTest now so no more overwriting it

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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-pats-

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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There are pit shaders that can hide shader. But it only hides shaders that are set up to be hiden with stencils

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I dunno I bet I can still erase it smirk

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Hides in corner and cries

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Is it normal that Avatars don't change instantly anymore?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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2bpat

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Yep, they don't

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Aw effing hell

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Peeps above changed avatar stuff..

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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oh no its a little ponyer

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Been a thing for a while now

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Why though?

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:11 PM

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what i really want is one of those volume shaders that replace material on objects inside but still use the object uv so its not a screen space

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:11 PM

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And I tried to debug wtf was going on with my world for the last hour or so...

cold talon Dec 26, 2018, 2:11 PM

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really fancy stuff

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:11 PM

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There are ways I can't speak about to blacklist selected shaders from being seen

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:12 PM

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lol

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:12 PM

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oh hi xins

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:12 PM

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yes

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 PM

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when you senind me those pics

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 PM

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what pics

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 PM

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the naughty ones you promised

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 PM

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excuse me wtf

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 PM

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LOL

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 PM

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👀

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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you promised feet pic of mic

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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U can do it. Santa will forget before next Christmas

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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i can get you a feet pic of my avatar hold up

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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i shouldn’t have come back tbh

sterile drift Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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vrpill

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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xins you know you love me

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:14 PM

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there’s more stuff to you thats little

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 2:15 PM

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hmm?

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:15 PM

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So there's no way to enable instant avatar changing anymore... That will make avatar debugging stupidly complicated.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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too lazy to find the .blend so nvm

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instant avatar changing? was that ever a thing??

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Of course it was

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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i just hit the button and change into my avatar

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Yep, but that's not the case anymore

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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??

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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It used to be done in like a second, now it takes a while

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:16 PM

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takes me literally one second

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I have to exit VRChat and open it again for my avatar to change

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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2 mississippi

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I think it used to be clientsided, and got changed to a serversided switch

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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oh, that's probably something on your end. i just changed into an avatar in 2 seconds.

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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might wanna get a new pc chief

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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In general, it easily takes towards a minute to switch now

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Yep, 2 seconds. Counted it out.

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:17 PM

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effing hell

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:18 PM

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It took me like 2 seconds in my own world now that I think about it

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:18 PM

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wowowow

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cut the swearing bucko

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:18 PM

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I'm also testing a local world right now, haven't tried it on an online world yet.

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:18 PM

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Maybe it doesn't show before every player in the world is synced properly, to avoid people seeing the wrong avatars?

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:18 PM

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lmao at slowmode being automatically enabled

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On Discord I mean

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 2:19 PM

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No.. The staff team turned it on

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:19 PM

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oof

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Serversided switching is a good idea, but having to wait 30 seconds to load an avatar from cache is strange

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:19 PM

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https://puu.sh/Cnmti/4bd40960d4.mp4 this one took like 5 seconds, but yeah it might be the local thing

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Thing is that Discord enables it automatically for big servers

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Yea but all other chats dont have it so

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Maybe they just need faster servers. I can't think of a process which would take a computer more than 2 seconds to do

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And all that wait time is client-server communication across the planet a few times

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 2:21 PM

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how do I toggle props on avatar w/ vive controller buttons?

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Well, something happened on November 2 that caused them to activate slowmode permanently

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:21 PM

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But VRChat servers are still pretty heavily loaded

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:22 PM

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lemme try changing my avatar in an online world, not a locally testing one

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Well, it's a 5 second timer. If you chat faster, you're likely just pressing enter constantly by habit. (maybe from playing online games that require fast information?) It's annoying to look at anyways.

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Actually Slowmode saved one of the big servers I administrate from a raid once

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So that's good

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Oh yeah, when I'm not testing my world locally it'll instantly switch my Avatar too... Bug found!

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Try changing to one that you haven't used for a bit

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Maybe the issue is that avatars are not being cached when they should

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Nope, also works within 5 seconds

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 2:25 PM

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probably a "yeah local test worlds aren't as important as the live game network" thing

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which is totally true, might as well test the avatar on the live build

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Sucks for testing

olive mulch Dec 26, 2018, 2:26 PM

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true

brazen warren Dec 26, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Yup, just doesn't work on local maps...

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Guess I'll be making a bug report then

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https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/using-the-test-build-function-inside-unity-wont-allow-for-instant-avatar-changin

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:36 PM

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@umbral reef Can def still erase the ui https://imgur.com/a/FVNc5UC

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 2:37 PM

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lmao

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:38 PM

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Is it possible to create transparent objects with a render queue below 2000?

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:38 PM

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transparent queue is 3k+ isn't it

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I don't think you can

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:41 PM

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You can make things 9999999 in the code if u want maybe the same can be used to lower transparent? Why would u need to lower it tho?

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:41 PM

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I got it to 2001 without disappearing.
And I got it now, I had to disable Zwrite

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You know how some shaders make shader clothes invisible? I want it to work with all of them. I just need to draw my thingy before everybody else does

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:42 PM

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I can ober render stuff with shaders. But can you over render with a transparency?

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Damn, zwrite is needed to overwrite stuff

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:43 PM

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I have a super stencil shader i can send you to test values

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Most people don't use stencils, thanks though

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If you have something transparent with ZWrite on, it will draw below other things if your render queue is lower

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Yeah i know but it has zwrite options and stuff as well

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Draw below? Arent you trying to draw over?

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Sure then, it could be helpful for testing and such! I don't know entirely what I'm doing, but I've managed to make some avatar clothes invisible lol

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Hard to explain, I need mine to draw instead, overwriting the other one

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Interesting

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Never looked through a water shader in VRChat to find that some avatars rendered strangely through it?

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:47 PM

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Yeah i guess that is a thing

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Not sure if you can make something compatible with most shaders tho

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Not without some more complex codes probably

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:48 PM

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Tags {"Queue" = "AlphaTest-449" "RenderType"="Opaque"} This makes most clothes invisible, but also hair and eyes. On Transparent-999, it makes all transparent objects on avatars invisible, unless their render queue is somehow lower

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:49 PM

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Okay i think i might use that for a project cool

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Wait, it seems they're the same, and that the difference was ZWrite On/Off. But with zwrite off it, while it deleted hair and such, it wouldn't draw below the mosaik shader from the asset store

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 PM

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transparency doesn't stack for most setups in vrchat. so looking at one transparent thing through another just erases it

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:56 PM

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I've made two now, with "draw before transparent" and "draw before alphatest"
With ZWrite on, it removes the semi-transparent shaders, while still drawing the opaque avatar body

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 2:57 PM

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I have a setup that erases everything higher than 2000

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:57 PM

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Is that what u want?

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Wait, delete the "renderType opaque" thing

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And that shader has some interesting stuff I could play with!

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 PM

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Ye

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 PM

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But it also seems sort of heavy compared to my oneliner

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 PM

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There are many render types

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:00 PM

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If you don't delete the "render type opaque" from what I send earlier, it will stop updating your screen in that space

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Which causes effects like seeing 100 nameplates besides eachother if somebody walks through it

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 PM

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Oof i accidentally made that effect on a stencil pen once

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 3:02 PM

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do you know why it does that caffeine?

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it still updates the screen

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but the grabpass hasn't been done yet so it's using the grabpass from the last frame

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Ohh neat

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Shaders are the best

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 PM

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Oh, cool!

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My new shader seems to be doing that in Unity, but it should work in game. It's the same one as I used before, just with 2001 and 2451 render queue rather than 3071

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I will hop on VR, laters

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 3:06 PM

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I wonder if i use that effect in front of a canvas if i can draw on the canvas

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 PM

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it'll be super glitchy but sorta

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 PM

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I remember it being weird before

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Ill have to see what happens if i stick try to stick the tip of a pen into it

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Wonder if the image stays on if i move

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Welp I was right about yesterday.

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One of my friends was bragging how his girl gave him VRBooty for christmas, and I laughed hysterically.

quiet river Dec 26, 2018, 4:31 PM

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@zinc solar the retardation of some people in this game is intense.

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 4:40 PM

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"I can't spend time with my family for Christmas because I got to bang Hatsune Miku on a social game in my VR headset" VRLOof

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 4:41 PM

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You know what.

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I’m not going to judge

quiet river Dec 26, 2018, 4:41 PM

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"Lol gotta please my most likely overweight hideous in game gf in a video game instead of spending time with family"

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vrchat taking long distance dating to the virtual bedroom

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 4:44 PM

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spending team with family

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nice weird tradition someone made up in 1847

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 4:47 PM

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@quiet river That's pretty much any social, or MMORPG game. people will find a way to ERP. Hell they even do it on Roblox, and Minecraft. With VRChat though, people can make themselves sexy anime characters from deviantart and grab some nude bases so they can bust a VRNut with them with movement work they have to do. I'm in a Discord that has a section for ERP, and you should see the videos and images they post xD

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 4:49 PM

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IMO if its consensual and it hurts the sex trafficking industry it is 👍 with me.

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 4:50 PM

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There's actual VRChat prostitution people will pay to have VRSex.

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The more you know

analog dew Dec 26, 2018, 4:52 PM

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... paying for erp? hell.. just get some anime girl with big milkbags and someone just starts to go down on you. no need to pay.

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 4:52 PM

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MaidNoThanks erp
maidThatsMoreLikeIt wholesome RP

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 4:52 PM

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If it exists there is porn of it. If there is porn of it someone pays for it.

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 4:53 PM

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adeon do u have porn

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 4:53 PM

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hyena

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 4:53 PM

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fumizukiStare

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nvm dont answer it

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sneaky

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 4:55 PM

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vrpill

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 4:55 PM

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A lot of my avatars are busty. I see you guys in those private instances 😉

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 4:57 PM

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I choose to believe tupper is ever present and sees all

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 4:57 PM

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nice try buddy

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but flat chest is justice

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Okay, I just got vr chat yesterday, and I freaking love it

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Yup it’s the best

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Yesterday with all the first timers was a blast

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 4:59 PM

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wut?

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 4:59 PM

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i always forgot there were boob bones to get jiggle and barely added them on my few recent avatars

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Tons of people got vr headsets for Christmas

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So there were lots of new faces yesterday

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:00 PM

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yeah i met a few of them in a pug on christmas eve night/christmas day morning

quiet prawn Dec 26, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Just think. Next year will bring an even highr volume.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:01 PM

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all the VR

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 5:02 PM

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laffeyDrink

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desktop support removed when

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I just got my VR yesterday too LUL

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:03 PM

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I wonder who got more excited to have a VRNut rather than playing other VRGames when they got a headset.

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I've had VR but rarely use it for VRChat, prefer to play Beat Saber in my spare time now that I upgraded PC

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:04 PM

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But I already have a Buizel avatar Pog

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:09 PM

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If tupper is not a Cirno in VRChat I will be mad

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:09 PM

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He is

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:09 PM

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Better

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I actually never had a main avatar? I hate anime guys, or goth/punk looking characters, and most of my avatars are fun jokes to give people a laugh.

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I need a main avatar...

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:10 PM

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I’ve tend to have a base of the month

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Mine is probably Kermit

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:11 PM

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I make a base body or head and use that for awhile

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:11 PM

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The one avatar I use the most, is a small bunny, or steampunk plague doctor

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Desktop support is important. Headpatting desktop users is how you then them into vr users

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:11 PM

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But I don't consider them my main

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Most recent two are a gender swap of Link and a head base of Lucina that’s put on a variety of bodies

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Have y’all ever made your own avatar?

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 5:13 PM

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It’s pretty easy

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:13 PM

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yes c: in my profile pic

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Yeah, not 100% from scratch though I have made props and clothing from scratch

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:13 PM

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How difficult would it be to make Totodile

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:13 PM

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I do free commisions actually

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:13 PM

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TOTODILE

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please

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:14 PM

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free commissions? you either take commisions or do it for free what

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:15 PM

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I do free commisions, the most I'll charge is $1 if someone wants particle effects, or special animations.

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But commisions are full atm, so not taking any. Do something

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:16 PM

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So you do commissions , don't say free lmao

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makes zero sense

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Like saying you sell something for free

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Someone already has a totodile on their disk and I’m pretty sure they’re gonna get it for me PogChamp

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:17 PM

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Free commissions for any avatar, but if people requests something outside of the avatar that's advanced such as animations, or effects then yes I will charge. Avatars are free, effects are not. Derp

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:18 PM

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I wish I was talented enough to make avatars

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That’d be freaking sick

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:18 PM

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I mean you can give a free cup but got to charge for the soda unless you just want plain water.

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Mod team is banning avatar creators for no reason since their cloning feature, have fun making avatars these days :')

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Instead of wishing commit yourself to learning if you really want to learn something you can learn it c:

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I only make avatars for myself so c:

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Okay

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So do soooo many people, nothing special about me or you

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:19 PM

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eh?

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im just saying that the avatar ban won't impact me, what you on about haHAA

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:20 PM

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that's just their personality lol

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Anyone can make an avatar if they got the time, and basic understanding. I only started doing free commisions because people are sometimes too moronic to understand the basics.

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:20 PM

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I’ve only ever looked at the software for like 10 seconds, then I had to leave the house, so I’ll probably set aside a day where that’s like, all I learn

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:20 PM

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imagine being so petty in response to someone simply trying to motivate someone else

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:20 PM

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1 &1/2 years ago I thought I’ve never be able to do this too.

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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I lack any motivation, or emotional concerns towards others. Hence why I am the way I am.

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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@safe marsh it's not even an avatar ban, random 2 months or even 4y bans :')

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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ikr Mic lol

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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onyl thing i've heard of is a 3 day public world ban

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:21 PM

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Need a deeper understanding of what you're talking about?

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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and to be honest the avatar, now that I know what it is, had no business being spread anyway since it's a massive particle spam

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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Is that the avatar steal thing you're talking about?

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:22 PM

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what

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Herbalist is talking about being banned for having your annoying particle spam avatar cloned

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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No clue what you guys are talking about. All I know is it's something about people getting banned for making avatars

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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just don't make particle/audio spam avatars, e z

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I do recall the snappy response to the worry "What happens if people spread annoying avatars?" being "well, just report and it'll be dealt with" soooo

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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i think i never used a single avatar with crazy effects...it's just so annoying...the worst ive done was poping a sword out 😐 sometimes i think im too lowkey

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Why would you even support a mod team like that tbh

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public is all about annoying avatars these days with their clone feature

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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https://puu.sh/CnpKb/abc9cb6282.png I mean even someone complaining about the person who was banned also complained about annoying avatars being spread

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Yesterday I was a spider and switch because someone had arachnophobia, but then I saw 4 more people with the same avatar, and more spawning chasing that person

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Most of them weren't even meant to be spread either way.

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Now that I know that static meshes are very optimized I’m going to go to town with props

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:25 PM

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If it's not meant to be spread put in on Private or turn off Sharing.

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Oof. the spiders avatars....ive blocked so many..

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Why would I not support a mod team that at least made an attempt to keep annoying avatars from being spread? lol

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just don't do things with the intent to annoy others? Kind of easy

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I disapprove of about a million other things they do, sure, but this specific case not really

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:26 PM

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I only change avatars if someone is too scared, or too bothering.

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Game design 101 “do no annoying”

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Like if 5+ ppl are gona clone the spider avatar and put themselves on my face when i freaking hate spiders to death, yeah , have fun being blocked.

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and ppl think thats funny since they laugh and stuff..i simply don't get it...

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:27 PM

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https://puu.sh/CnpNX/6fbf3c578c.png like what did you expect?

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EVERYONE agreed and suddenly someone's friend is in trouble and now they don't? lul no

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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Yeah, I rarely use my spider avatar since some people are scared or have arachnophobia

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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everyone

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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was wondering and thinking about maybe getting a vr headset afterall... how much space on average do you need/have for vr... also, whats the difference in oculus or vive for vrchat - pro/cons

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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I'm sorry, the majority of users with a brain agreed that you can just report users with annoying avatars.

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Everyone is a poor generalization, you're right.

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:29 PM

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@obsidian oxide I recommend a decent sized play area. Wmr can handle the smallest play space where oculus and vice need slightly bigger play spaces.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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"Wait a second, we're being held accountable for our actions? Ugh fuck this moderation team!"

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Oh I thought you meant the update in general.

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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4x5 feet should do it

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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"decent sized" how big is that and whats wmr

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ah

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Nah the cloning thing is fun but needs a pedestal only option, but even then if your friends are being a dick with your avatar that you spread you're probably still gonna get in trouble

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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"Majority of users with a brain" What's the other folks? Jellyfish?

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Wmr is windows vr headsets

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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That's exactly the issue with this update

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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I mean don't spread annoying avatars and you won't get in trouble.

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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One guy gets banned for having an avatar laying around, while others abuse it. Then suddenly avatar worlds disappear because the author is banned

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Atm the best headset for VRChat is oculus because it now runs nativity on it’s storefront

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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just yeeting content from the game

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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"laying around" it was public. he had it set to public and he had sharing on

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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let's put sharing on default on

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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they told everyone here and in the patch notes

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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oculus because its easy to set up? ok iirc vive was praised back when vrchat first came out because... uhhh can't remember but iirc everyone was shitting on oculus

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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You don't default something like that on.

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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I actually really like my Rift

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Things have changed

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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@obsidian oxide wmr if u have no playspace, oculus/vive for best experience and reasonable sized playspace, vive for full body shenanigans

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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You're right, it should've been off by default.

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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You can easily already see the impact of it.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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both parties are in the wrong, it's just that one can't be punished for it

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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well thats a big difference that was missing from his suggestion... vive for full body...

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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also he can just re-public his world when he's unbanned, it's literally a 3 day public world ban

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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is occulus not capable of that then i guess

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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he can still play too

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:33 PM

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it is i think, you can mix, but im a vive user, cant rly talk for the oculus part

hasty wedge Dec 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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u can if u mix with vive light houses

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but its extra $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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If you want full body just get the Vive

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if you don't, or are unsure, get oculus

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Yeah. Price is also better

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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I wish the mod team would deal with the logout crashers

viscid crag Dec 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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He got a 2 week ban and after a try for an appeal he got a 4y ban

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That's why I don't approve of this at all.

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:36 PM

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are cables ever getting in the way? i'd think you'd always notice them or at least sometimes you'd feel them slightly dragging you because of the weight hanging down from you... iirc vive had a wireless version, what about occulus

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:36 PM

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I for example have a vive coz i wanted to have full body c: ease of life

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Well you can mix, it's just super expensive to mix rift with HTC fbt

obsidian oxide Dec 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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i already sometimes have the urge to reposition everything on my desk because its not in "the right spot" when i'm playing.. like that one gif of a starcraft pro who adjusts his keyboard and mouse with a ruler before the match lol... i just thought it could really be immersion breaking sometimes

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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You get used to the cables and you basically turn and whatnot in ways that the cables won't annoy, like muscle memory...i can dance with the cables , do 360 turns and whatever, but ofc you can allways pay the extra buck and get the wireless.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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which avatar are we talking about that got someone banned? i figured it as the emoji thing since that's what i kept hearing about here

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also i genuinely doubt the appeal is what got them a 4 year ban, odds are they tried to circumvent it

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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After you play for a while, you subconsciously move so that the cords don’t get in your way

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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I'm sympathetic to people that are victims of bad moderation but that's just too suspicious to not question

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Just don’t make bad Avatars 4head

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 5:39 PM

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What if I just make very poor that don't have any particle spam? HuH

tidal aspen Dec 26, 2018, 5:40 PM

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making an avatar that's abusable public 🤔

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:40 PM

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I mean, there's a time and a place for memey avatars

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typically they're in the box where there's plenty of space

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falloff, etc. im sure they're not all made with the intent to abuse, but you've gotta take into account that it's something heavily abusable, which to me seems extremely obvious in most cases

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:42 PM

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It boils down to; Don’t be annoying or a jerk

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PepeHands

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:42 PM

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sorry you had to go through such abue sadboi

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 5:43 PM

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Fight back. Destroy them for complaining. Rise above

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Bruh the person making my totodile avatar is putting a hat on it PogChamp

digital girder Dec 26, 2018, 5:46 PM

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can 5 people please dm me?

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:46 PM

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2 pepes in less then 5 minutes and they are still up

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wow

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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Pff.. mods never look at chat you crazy

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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mods are sleep go ham illyaTriggered

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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i never managed to send a pepe that stood alive for more then 10secs GWfroggySadCat

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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lol and dont ping one or you'll get in twuble

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:48 PM

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@ Admin Kappa

lusty epoch Dec 26, 2018, 5:49 PM

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hm

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:49 PM

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imagine forgetting the space

lusty epoch Dec 26, 2018, 5:49 PM

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oh wait

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you can actually ping all admins

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 5:50 PM

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Do it ablobpopcorn

lusty epoch Dec 26, 2018, 5:50 PM

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no

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:50 PM

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Fun fact, nothing would happen coz they don't care

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:50 PM

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LOL

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theyre used to it by now

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i mean if youre intentionally doing it to be annoying vs just being stupid and not knowing better, then they probably will

lusty epoch Dec 26, 2018, 5:51 PM

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To be in the VRChat team you have to survive being pinged in the discord angrycry

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 5:51 PM

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i love how in big discords pinging the higher 'Authorities' feels like such a taboo lmao

lusty epoch Dec 26, 2018, 5:51 PM

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REEEEE

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 5:52 PM

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im 99% sure its muted anyway

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 5:52 PM

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Usually because there's a normal way to get their attention at a lower level

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:01 PM

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Yo mods if you're reading this shoot me a dm

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Okay mods are asleep

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 6:03 PM

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Maybe they're just ignoring to not blow their cover..

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LUL

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:03 PM

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nah what kind of mod would do that? A smart one?

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 6:03 PM

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The mod team mods. They can’t fix bugs. @earnest harbor . The dev team is on holiday

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Yeah the chat mods are only for discord

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:04 PM

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PingReee who is looking for a fight?

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:04 PM

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@earnest harbor me

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:05 PM

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Feelsgunman

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:05 PM

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1v1 me final destination no items

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 6:05 PM

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vrpill

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:06 PM

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tororo

modern sand Dec 26, 2018, 6:13 PM

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@earnest harbor #rules ty

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 6:13 PM

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How do you join Public Events

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:15 PM

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busted

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:15 PM

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I get spammed and yelled at, cool.

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:15 PM

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spammed lol

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:16 PM

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yelled lol

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:16 PM

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imagine having that heavy of a victim complex

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:16 PM

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We’re reaching levels of victimization that shouldn’t be possible

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Chats lovely today

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 6:17 PM

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👌

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:17 PM

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As it always has been

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Today? Only today wow

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Apparently, good to see it's as toxic as usual.

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Define toxic

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Earlier was memes, but your input wasn't..

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Chat has been quite neat the past few days GWnanamiShimakazeFloat
At least most of the time

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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It’s that holiday spirit

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Followed up with sounders

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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yayoihappy

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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i was gone the last few days.... Coincidence?
🤔

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Nope

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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No @vocal shard :^)

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Oof

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 6:19 PM

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And we’re back to bad chat hours, rip

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 6:24 PM

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Yeah sometimes this chat is 2000 mph and sometimes it's like 3

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 6:24 PM

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And we still have slow mode. Lol

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:33 PM

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is the new release still a trash fire or nah

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!online

floral flaxBOT Dec 26, 2018, 6:33 PM

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There are 6476 users in VRChat currently

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:33 PM

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wow look at it go

quiet river Dec 26, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Didn't there used to be like 50k players at one point?

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:34 PM

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More like 5k

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Max was around 20-25k

quiet river Dec 26, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Oh ok

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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F

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Then the servers would die

quiet river Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Really died off I guess

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Dead game abandon ship

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Was during the time of knuckles

quiet river Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Fallout 76?

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Ye

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:36 PM

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It's also right after Christmas soo..

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Don’t complain, 3 years ago you’d struggle to find a single person online outside of the times events happened

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:38 PM

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I'm actually suprised at the bump in player count

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:38 PM

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There's not much of a bump, the DDOS and current network issues really turned off a lot of casual players

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:38 PM

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It was in the low-mid 5k for that past little while

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:39 PM

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3 years ago there’d be between 10-30 online

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:39 PM

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We were hitting like 8k and 9k every weekend a few months ago

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:39 PM

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At least when I looked

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Good thing this pre-holiday update went off without a hitch

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:39 PM

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lol rite

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:40 PM

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Is that sarcasm I detect in your text ?

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:40 PM

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no

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:40 PM

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October/November were probably the busiest months since the boom and then the DDOS was in november and we're RIP now.

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:40 PM

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I totally disagree

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:41 PM

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I don't mean the game is dead, it's just lost a significant amount of casual users

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:41 PM

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If they’re casual, then, not worth worrying about imho

errant vault Dec 26, 2018, 6:41 PM

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we just need new world editing mechanics

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:42 PM

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lol casual users are what turn into regulars

errant vault Dec 26, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Im over here learning how to make these Rogurs start shooting eachother in PlayMaker

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:42 PM

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@lapis nebula yeah what f2p game needs casual players amirite?

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:43 PM

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and they were frequent enough players to let us hit 8k-9k most weekends in october/early november

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:43 PM

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If you love a social environment like VRChat as much as I do, you keep using it and don’t let technical difficulties or attacks put you off

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:43 PM

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So basically only the obsessed? That's a terrible mindset for future growth.

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The "real fan" argument. A really bad one.

pliant prawn Dec 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Nah put in a monthly subscription so only the h a r d c o r e players hang around

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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If it keeps the Knuckles at bay, I’m happy

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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"Real fans" are more likely than anyone else to get annoyed at technical difficulties or issues with the dev team

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Id rather have knuckles than the crashers we have now

errant vault Dec 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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i miss those critters

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Because "real fans" play the game a lot and can get their frustrations built up when they're being ignored or shot down instantly

lapis nebula Dec 26, 2018, 6:45 PM

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After the trust control, I’ve had no issues with crashers

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 6:45 PM

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I have had the same issues before and after the trust system: almost none

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In terms of crashers

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:45 PM

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The problem is that there were so many undealt with that we even needed the system lol

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Still see modified clients but not as much as a few months ago

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 6:46 PM

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even if it wasn't a "trust" system and just a "do yo uwant this on or off" kind of thing

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:46 PM

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There's plenty of logout crashers in the game, and they'll not hesitate to hit you if you say something they don't like

errant vault Dec 26, 2018, 6:47 PM

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what do you guys feel about a world mechanic that forces an avatar on you

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 6:47 PM

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Safety settings don't protect you from them either

quartz shale Dec 26, 2018, 6:50 PM

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Anyone constantly getting kicked back to the "logging-in" screen?

errant vault Dec 26, 2018, 6:50 PM

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i havent got on vrchat yet

quartz shale Dec 26, 2018, 6:51 PM

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I managed to get to home, after almost 10-20 tries, after which, this started happening again rip

tidal aspen Dec 26, 2018, 7:04 PM

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also gotta remember that they released the oculus client so the numbers may not be 100% accurate assuming the bot just takes it from steam

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 7:10 PM

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Anyone else experiencing an issue where VRChat runs at 11fps for the first few minutes of it being launched in VR?

valid sandal Dec 26, 2018, 7:17 PM

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Only issue im having is the favorite avatar option is being dumb i unfavorited an avatar and it refuses to take it off even if i favorite another it also refuses to show any new avatar i favorite

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 7:18 PM

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How's everyone doing today? :>

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 7:20 PM

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tired and full belly 😊 🍷

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 7:20 PM

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Same here

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Curious if anyone has found a way to increase upload speeds between Unity and Amazon S3 when uploading avatars and worlds. It appears to cap out around 890kb/s for me. Anywhere else I can get about 12mb/s. Or is this just rate limiting on S3?

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could be your ISP, could be Amazon S3

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ISP ruled out unless they have peer limiting with S3. I can upload anywhere else @ 12mb/s

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 7:24 PM

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What is your ISP?

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 7:24 PM

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yeah that's what I meant

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 7:24 PM

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It’s a nice quiet work day today

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Comcast has fairly shitty routing towards S3 so

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 7:26 PM

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I will do some throughput tests to other S3 buckets and see if I can rule that out. Thx.

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 7:28 PM

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You could try a VPN but unity likely won't like it

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I know the vpn service I use doesn't let unity open any projects

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Or unity not liking the VPN service

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 7:29 PM

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I could do that. I have a tinc vpn mesh between my home and linode/vultr.

safe prism Dec 26, 2018, 7:54 PM

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consider talking to amazon noc if nothing else

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i've had to poke their traffic eng a few times over this shit .-.

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sometimes i just reset my NIC and it fixes itself, really stupid shit :D

soft turret Dec 26, 2018, 8:05 PM

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thank you tupper for bringing us all together it has been an amazing year

willow solstice Dec 26, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Anyone know if the new years times square world is getting reuploaded for unity 2017?

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I enjoyed that world, but the last time I went in there it was pretty broken.

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Yea they have an updated version ready to be uploaded
I know for sure the photo's and stuff changed unsure about bugs 🤷

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 8:07 PM

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did it have any bugs, the last version?

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seemed to work pretty nice last year

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it took forever to load last year, thats for sure

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but, thats expected on the scale of how many high quality textures are in it for the billboards

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:08 PM

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I kinda missed the convo about playercount but if you really want accurate info about player counts you’d have to look at a longer time frame than just certain months. A year or more would be a better comparison since player counts strongly change during the year and on holidays

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@vocal shard Wait- Are you by any odds mirroreggs from Plug.dj/Dubtrack?

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:12 PM

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LOL

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Yes

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Shit boy- Im finding all them NC boys stalking me to here 👀

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:13 PM

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I used to be admin for nightcore reality^^

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Well- Im just a random guy :^)

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:13 PM

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You are actually the first one i see here from all the nc people

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Most of 331 knows about this thanks to me-
I quit the community and then got active with this game and stuff
And i seen some Ba's/Admins in here also

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Maybe should hint again at who i was/am 👀
That random guy/Neko depending when i was active and on what website

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Wait, did someone say NC?

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Gotta run 🏃

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 8:18 PM

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LOOOOOOOL

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I actually have no idea what discord you’re talking about

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:24 PM

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We both hosted different communities- Thats where i know him from

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Lol I’m actually from a couple community’s that detest nightcore.

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:27 PM

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Tbh- I hated most of the peeps who made* it
Got info beef with plenty of boys who made it

round bone Dec 26, 2018, 8:28 PM

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bois

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:28 PM

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Eeee-- Rereead it first. To tired to write

round bone Dec 26, 2018, 8:28 PM

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anyone interested in rigging my model? (willing to pay)

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 8:28 PM

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I’m not here to start any fights. Just putting that fact out there

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:29 PM

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For that stuff its best to ask within VRCtraders ( #community-servers-old )
Make sure to not pay anything like 20 euro here and stuff as thats way too much for a simple rig.
Also get someone to refer you to someone else for an avatar as that works out best.

round bone Dec 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Thanks

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Wait a second

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20€ for a simple rig? Good luck with findig someone to do that

fleet ice Dec 26, 2018, 8:33 PM

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@round bone don't be a victim and rigg it by your self, it can be so easy after the first time you did it and you understood it...

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:34 PM

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20 is a shit laod for a simple rig as there are websites out there that can do it for ya :x

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:34 PM

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There is a lot you can mess up

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And weightpainting takes its time

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Unless you manually weight paint shit

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Yea but if you want quality you dont use websites ;D

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Yea which is why im saying. With some models you can get away with it but if you want it done proper do it yourself

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:34 PM

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True-
But then its a bit more then 20 bucks for anyone who does this often

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Or pay someone who does it

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Tbh- no one does weight painting perfect

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Yes thats true

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But then again, whats perfect?

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 PM

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I just steal public avatars xD

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Having something 'perfect' yourself for this game will just look out
And perfect meant no clipping at all

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Hence my main avatar being Kermit

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But I want Deku

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Can you do a Kermit imitation?

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I actually made a deku for someone some time ago 😄

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But yea

wary knot Dec 26, 2018, 8:36 PM

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Omfg I’m really jealous of who got it

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Do you have a picture of it/can I see it

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I can say “Kermit the frog here” in a good Kermit accent, but nothing else OOF @vocal shard

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Btw mirror you still with NcR?

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:37 PM

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RIP

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If someone here should ever wander somewhere to get domething done for themselves on their avatar make sure you get along with the person well and that they take their time. Nothing against vrc traders, but i’ve heard a lot of bad things about the people offering service there so make sure to be careful

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Its why i suggest you get someone trusted there and have them recommend someone

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:37 PM

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@umbral reef no, i quit ncr like 4 years ago after pouring 5 years into it

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Wait you left that long ego?

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Yes

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Get someone trusted to be the middleman?

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Middleman?

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Just talk to who you think you can trust

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:38 PM

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Wait that was after the user boom on the website right? Or right when the website went down?

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:38 PM

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If was while plug was diing

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And i quit making nightcore

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:39 PM

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Ayyy- That explains it. Was confused as i recall seeing you after it got back up

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But prob had the times wrong

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:39 PM

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Im still on their discord

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But thats about it, they renamed to their own community as they didnt want to deal with having to wait for danikas approval all the time

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:40 PM

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lmao

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Well 331 did the same kinda
We just did everything without waiting for sarah and i was pretty much the proxy host until she stepped down after some pushback for actions

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Yea and after i decided to do a gaming community which didnt happen and now in creating my own content together with a friend since march 😄

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Mirror Sim

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:41 PM

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I had a big fight with rainzy which made me quit lel

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@halcyon kestrel sim?

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Simulator

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Im not sure i understand what you are trying to say

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Vrchat has loads of mirror potato's

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 8:42 PM

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VRChat is Mirror sim

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Oh

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XD ok so i actually understood

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True though. And if you want people to stare at you all the time, make your own avatar a mirror :^)

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 8:43 PM

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XD

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Cant anymore after the camera stuff got yeet'd GWtogaTheSaddest

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Maybe with shaders

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Im not good with shaders though so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:44 PM

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The world shaders use a camera so GWnanamiLaceShrug
Maybe you could but i doubt it tbh

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:45 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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@umbral reef for how long have you been with vrchat then? O.o

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Uuuu over a year by now

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:48 PM

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👌

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:48 PM

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I proxy took over Nc331 9 months before the website died
Then pushed us onto another website where we kept most users
Stayed on plug for a while before i got bored and school/work took over.
So then i went to here and well- Still here

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Does anyone have an Ahegao face of anything from VRChat? DM me a pic!! I need one for an avatar

foggy gyro Dec 26, 2018, 8:49 PM

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communism

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yeet

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 8:49 PM

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@umbral reef a good, nice rigging job can be way more then $20. thats not easy work to do well at all

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Do you make your own stuff?

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Exactly mimi

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:51 PM

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@vocal shard I fix my own stuff- Cant be assed to model things so all i do is swap stuff, repair and weight paint

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 8:52 PM

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XD i see

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Thats fine though

opaque hawk Dec 26, 2018, 8:53 PM

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That is perfectly fine. I see a lot of people just download prefab avatars and they never learn the basics.

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I know how to do everything by hand 👏
Because when i started our qtie hotox and givemeallyourcats or what it was again there program was from finished 😂

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All i used it for was translating materials after i learned it could do that
As i got annoyed by having to use another for it

earnest harbor Dec 26, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Yeah learning that is handy but rigging from nothing is ughh...

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Any news on the login loop fix yet?

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Nope- they will yeet something within #announcements or #server-status else

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:32 PM

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Kinda sucks i cant hang with my friends

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 9:32 PM

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I didnt even know there was a login loop issue

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is this only for certain people?

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or is it random?

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:34 PM

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What city is the server located

forest salmon Dec 26, 2018, 9:34 PM

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For me I have it almost every time so I have to enter my login data any time I want to play

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:34 PM

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I get it after i login and then goto a world from home

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Lots of people with satellite internet apparently

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 9:34 PM

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Its the .3 fix they pushed
Went from fully locked out of the game to being into only able to join the spawn world mimi

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And ping effects stability of the network and can get you yeet'd

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 9:35 PM

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Gearbell couldn't log in for liek 11 days and that's the longest i heard of, and despite there being a workaround, it's an extremely tedious one that doesn't work for everyone

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:36 PM

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Whats the work around?

forest salmon Dec 26, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Are there ports you have to open? Cause for some reason it takes ages to start downloading avatars, or worlds but once it starts it goes quite fast

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Can we add chairs to avatars?

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Yes...

zinc solar Dec 26, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Just add the chair prefab and that's it?

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 9:50 PM

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@zinc solar you need the new sdk

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 9:52 PM

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@zinc solar don't add the prefab ... add the station component, as explained in the release notes

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 10:20 PM

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Do avatar stations not support enter and exit positions? I can’t upload if they are not empty

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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My computer was working fine with VRChat yesterday on my Mixed Reality headset but now it's being slow

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Check your task manager.

raven silo Dec 26, 2018, 10:47 PM

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check if your memory and cpu

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:53 PM

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It’s generally gonna be slow if there’s a crazy amount of CPU use

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:53 PM

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sooo why are people getting banned for having a donald trump or pepe avatar?

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Impersonation and that frog is the devil

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 10:54 PM

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maybe cause Trump is a nazi

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:54 PM

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i dont know why its wrong but ok

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:54 PM

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It’s in the rules. But don’t ask me

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:54 PM

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ig

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 10:54 PM

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Politics are a no-no either, even figures of politics

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Yea. The impersonation rule goes for Communtiy figures

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

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i dont get the pepe though

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

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it's a stupid meme

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

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like fortnite isnt?

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Fortnite isn’t a meme it’s a game

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 10:55 PM

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It was used for racism and as a hate symbol, so to speak

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:56 PM

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ah

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:56 PM

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And Pepe is overused

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Best to let that subject die.

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 10:56 PM

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It was pulled out of the obscure can by memers.

flat charm Dec 26, 2018, 10:56 PM

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True

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 10:57 PM

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So are many things they use tbh.

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 11:05 PM

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I don’t know the devs reason but it does wonders for keeping out a certain type of attitude.

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:05 PM

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hi

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Lemme guess.. YokoThink

Stubborness?

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:05 PM

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anyone up for avatar hunting?

ruby needle Dec 26, 2018, 11:06 PM

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if you gonna ask the same thing here im gonna kick your ass.

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😉

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:06 PM

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Im asking someone to find it with me shush
❤

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:06 PM

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rebStare

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Umm.. I dunno but, I'm good.

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Sorry to break it... Yo no

trim trellis Dec 26, 2018, 11:06 PM

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At work atm, so.....nah

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:07 PM

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hitormiss

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:07 PM

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cirnoDoubt

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:07 PM

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hit or miss

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I guess they never miss huh

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noanime THIS IS THE CHARACTER IM LOOKIN FOR LMAO

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

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scottStare

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

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kms

knotty stag Dec 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

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are any avatar creators online? i would like to put an avatar request 😃

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

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same

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

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Dude.. you just used the same pepe emote.. that ain't allowed around here

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

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i will pay in vbucks

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:10 PM

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I doubt you're around 13, Supreme

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Especially with something like that

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 11:10 PM

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@knotty stag Depeding what you need its best to ask within VRCtraders discord and you can find the link within #community-servers-old

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 11:10 PM

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"hyper"

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:10 PM

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cirnoDoubt

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I doubt it...

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Alright you doubt it. I know the truth 😉

dark narwhal Dec 26, 2018, 11:11 PM

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yeah u do wink

knotty stag Dec 26, 2018, 11:16 PM

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thank you @umbral reef ^-^

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:49 PM

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@umbral reef you're still not banned despite this failed attempt at "snark" on his part

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Lmao

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 11:50 PM

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👀 oi

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Was searching old stuff and found this

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I like how Little Mouse is suddenly acting like the limits are the best thing evar

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 11:51 PM

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Thats my last insult i made in here c:

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:51 PM

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They were grumbling about it almost everywhere

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:53 PM

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damn imagine your dates being formatted wrong

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:53 PM

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Excuse me?

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Day/Month/Year or Year/Month/Day is logical, MDY is an americanism :^)

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:53 PM

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That's GREAT Americanism :3

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It's OK, LM is fixing all their avatars ❤ they posted some progress in opt

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well, maybe upping new ones

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Yeah I saw, but their sudden change of heart is setting off all my bullshit meters

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They're acting like it's the greatest thing ever in here, even though they have complained about the limits a ton

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In their own Discord too, they called it "a natural consequence of high quality models"

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:54 PM

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naw gonna give everyone a chance, i've had friends that kind of seem to "get it" after all this info being thrown around

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:54 PM

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They're also still selling other people's assets

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Even admitted to it on /r/VRchat

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:55 PM

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i mean i dont care about the commission thing, it's whatever to me

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:56 PM

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And every time they came up in this Discord they have been DM'ing people to try and save face

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:56 PM

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also that's not wrong, it is a natural consequence of a high quality model. the problem is we shouldn't be making those lol

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Well, to a degree. No excuse for mats and stuff like that but DB can really make something look awesome

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:56 PM

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I got a DM from one of them basically saying that they used Filn's models for their avatars, and later on (a few months later) they denied it

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They just seem like scummy people tbh

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I have not heard a single good thing about them

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Low poly is my aesthetic

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Lot of those everywhere

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Gimmie dem Sega Saturn looking models pls

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Lol, I should take some of my older models and completely wreck the normals

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Lot of drama and jerks in the avatar creation community. Meanwhile the rest are just tryna make good stuff

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 PM

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So you can see every poly

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:58 PM

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I honestly just want public world avatars moderated properly, I'm not here to fix people's personalities lol

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Same

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I’m just here to meet potential friends

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Makes no difference to me if the person is my friend or some jerk random, just fix your world's stuff.

empty wharf Dec 26, 2018, 11:59 PM

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I respect that

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 11:59 PM

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I hate the worlds that give me double or triple vision. Ewgh

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:59 PM

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Even more so with screenshaker avatars.

rigid crescent Dec 27, 2018, 12:00 AM

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I know approximately one person who took advantage of old worlds not being rescanned in order to fix his stuff and now it's newly published with all good+ avatars. not really a common thing. most people get their world taken down for accidentally re-uploading, otherwise they'd just keep overwriting IDs with bad ones

torn nebula Dec 27, 2018, 12:01 AM

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@vocal shard that might just be someone who doesn't have VR and couldn't test their shaders to be fair

vocal shard Dec 27, 2018, 12:02 AM

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Ah okay, there's only been 3 worlds that have done that to me. It hurts sometimes lol

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:02 AM

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If it's the world itself that should be caught on review

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But I've heard rumors that in the past, some reviewers would test on desktop

torn nebula Dec 27, 2018, 12:03 AM

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I've jumped into a new world only to instantly get double vision before, so I could believe that

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:03 AM

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I'm still not a fan of the good reqs and I still aint fix mine.

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:04 AM

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I strive to be within public world limits

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:04 AM

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And the world thing, there was a spooky map that got broken vision with the update

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:05 AM

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I'll deal with my realtime light making me Very Poor even though it only casts light on players, has an incredibly small radius and has no shadows

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:05 AM

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YOU

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:05 AM

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I just want them to fix the particle stuff so my system doesn't mistakenly get counted as having 3 million mesh particle polys

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I could just make the limits so high that it wraps around and becomes negative 2 billion

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:05 AM

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People like you with lit models that break mine.... grr

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:05 AM

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How so?

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It's a tiny light on the head that doesn't even reach far enough to affect anyone else

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I might as well bake in the emission

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Depends on the light honestly, but there's a light that people use that break the shader horribly

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But my very poor are because of dyn bones and colliders..

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:09 AM

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Oh yeah, dynamic bones kill my avatars too. I gotta redo the weight paint on my skirts at some point.

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:11 AM

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Then there's guns and swords being separate meshes that knock down rating

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:13 AM

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If you can, make them regular mesh renderers

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For sheathed swords, you can probably make them a separate mesh attached to your hips

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Or at least the sword

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Or make it part of the same mesh and replace the material with an "empty" one when you need to draw it

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Shader with no ZWrite and ColorMask 0

tidal aspen Dec 27, 2018, 12:15 AM

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point lights are still somewhat expensive even if they don’t use shadows

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Nahh like I said, I'll keep them as is since they aren't a part of the problem

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Yeah, I know they're expensive but it's the only way to achieve the effect I need

stone current Dec 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

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aaa

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when someone joins with a super laggy avatar and half the server clones it

subtle prawn Dec 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

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:>

stone current Dec 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

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someones tank was huge and drops me to like 5 frames

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then 10 people cloned it and oof game broke

median basalt Dec 27, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Need Godot's mask to glow lol

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Can't achieve it any other way, baked emission wouldn't look right

torn nebula Dec 27, 2018, 12:22 AM

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@stone current if only block avatar worked based on the avatar... https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/personal-avatar-blacklist

valid sandal Dec 27, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Avatar issue still there

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:27 AM

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If only there was like a minimum spec for vrc that people would listen to...

queen mango Dec 27, 2018, 12:27 AM

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Consider one for the desktop users

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Or you know... a test to see if your system was qualified for VR and that could be the baseline

weak lantern Dec 27, 2018, 12:32 AM

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I just uploaded and made alt avatars for when i can login again

vocal shard Dec 27, 2018, 1:03 AM

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How do I connect to EU servers?

manic salmon Dec 27, 2018, 1:29 AM

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there are no separate servers for different regions

lunar zenith Dec 27, 2018, 1:48 AM

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I get sooooo annoyed in open mic night! Everytime I say something, a guy wants to start showing me his guitar skills or singing. They all sound the same!

polar bone Dec 27, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Plot twist: it's the same guy on different accounts wanting to pick you up

lunar zenith Dec 27, 2018, 1:49 AM

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Furious_Laughter

long venture Dec 27, 2018, 1:58 AM

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umshock

vocal shard Dec 27, 2018, 2:02 AM

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not using animations to pick up girls 🤔

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Them normies

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Full body tracking + animations is how you do it smartboi

earnest harbor Dec 27, 2018, 2:28 AM

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Did you just greentext? 🤔

umbral oracle Dec 27, 2018, 2:41 AM

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The right way to pick up girls is a nepstack with all chairs turned on

stone current Dec 27, 2018, 2:45 AM

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lol my avtar marked good but in game is p00r

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angery

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no its a chopstick with a station at its base

zinc solar Dec 27, 2018, 2:53 AM

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Every avatar that people consider attractive is inferior to anything else. I play VRChat to be Santa shrek with a sprite cransberry and 99 Prayer cape, not to hide my appearance behind some character from deviantarts wet dream and look for a VRGF to bust that VRNut

vocal shard Dec 27, 2018, 2:54 AM

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@umbral oracle nepslap

umbral oracle Dec 27, 2018, 2:57 AM

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:nepslap:

queen mango Dec 27, 2018, 3:02 AM

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YuriFP

ruby burrow Dec 27, 2018, 3:03 AM

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I play VRC probably to enjoy the freedom that VR allows, and also because inside of VRC, socialising is somehow just completely different for me than outside.

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Maybe it's the fact that inside the game, I can assume that everyone is just there to relax and enjoy themselves, and also going to share interests and world experience far more similar to my own.

meager shell Dec 27, 2018, 3:07 AM

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If anyone wants to friend me my steam name is Cadeocracy912

idle cipher Dec 27, 2018, 3:16 AM

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is anyone getting this weird issue where their steam client just suddenly exit by itself which cause VRChat to go not responding?

queen mango Dec 27, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Huh.. that's new

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You sure something In your network or software isn't working right?

weak lantern Dec 27, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Im going to give VRC a few more days before i give up on it

opaque hawk Dec 27, 2018, 3:29 AM

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are you having network troubles?

weak lantern Dec 27, 2018, 3:30 AM

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7+ days now and cant goto any worlds other than the home one

opaque hawk Dec 27, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Yeah there a few people with that problem.

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😦